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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to Wednesday edition Texans All Access

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Speaker 1: from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I am hosting again

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Speaker 1: tonight Wednesday's My Night Anyways. I am John Harris, football

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Speaker 1: analyst and Sidelo reporter for your Houston Texans and we

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Speaker 1: continue with our theme week. We're all on a vacation

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Speaker 1: this week, and I know a lot of you are

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Speaker 1: on vacation, and so I was left through the task

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Speaker 1: what can I do? And I thought, let's give each

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Speaker 1: day a theme. So Monday we did life in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Guys that have played in the NFL, Guys that work

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Speaker 1: but I wanted to focus on guys that have played

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, Guys that have maybe even NFL Europe

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Speaker 1: like Clint Sterner, Guys that work in the NFL like

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Speaker 1: Mike Parson, and then of course the guy like Wade

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans. Yesterday, we did our Texans Top one hundred moments.

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Speaker 1: You Dory and I have been doing Bonus in the

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Speaker 1: Lab podcast and podcast is gonna be key in just

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Speaker 1: a second. And so we played the top one hundred

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Speaker 1: moments that we've been responsible for Whitney Merciless three and

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Speaker 1: a half sack game in twenty fifteen. We played the

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Speaker 1: WHATTT twenty twelve game against the Colts. We've had a

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Speaker 1: few of them that have been really, really good. So

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Speaker 1: we celebrated the Texans top one hundred moments through the

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Speaker 1: in the Lab Bonus editions and today we're gonna continue

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Speaker 1: that theme with our podcast celebration. And we have three

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Speaker 1: we have vander Meer's View, which alliteration I love, but

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermer's podcast and he will touch on any number

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Speaker 1: of things in that podcast, and he during the season,

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Speaker 1: and here's Mark on the race do and sees my TV.

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Speaker 1: But the stuff that Mark has to do behind the

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Speaker 1: But there's some great stuff he did this offseason. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna celebrate Vine review. We got in the lab

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Speaker 1: with Drew Doherty and myself and we started geek out

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Speaker 1: And then dep City has the Deep Slant podcast, which

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Speaker 1: is all kinds of phenomenal. I've been a guest on

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Speaker 1: the Deep Slant podcast, and Deep He's asked me questions.

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Speaker 1: and she is I don't know how many different players

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Speaker 1: was really really good. I really enjoyed that. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna kick off the show celebrating our podcast on this

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Speaker 1: podcast celebration Wednesday, the Deep Slant interview with Director of

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Speaker 1: Here's Director of Player Personnel. Where you Houston Texans, Matt

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Speaker 1: and everybody, you know, we all sit here and Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: but he stepped into a good situation. He played a

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Speaker 1: lot of bad defenses in that little run, but b

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Speaker 1: he had players around him and he had a pretty

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Speaker 1: good offensive line in front of him. The Jets quarterback

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold had a bad situation. The Buffalo quarterback Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen had a bad situation, and Josh Rosen had a

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Speaker 1: terrible situation. So it's easier for young quarterback to have

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Speaker 1: guys around them. So I think what we saw last

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Speaker 1: year from Darnold was kind of a learning year for him.

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Speaker 1: He did some good things, did some really bad things.

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Speaker 1: But Adam Gase is a good coach and he's a

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Speaker 1: good quarterback coach. I think he'll he'll do wonders for him.

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Speaker 1: Seems like we went through a lot of years where

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Speaker 1: highly drafted quarterbacks did not do that well early, if

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Speaker 1: at all, ever, and now we're getting Mahomes and Watson

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Speaker 1: and we're getting some guys finding success relatively early. Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: you pointed him out. So does this make everybody think, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get a young guy, I got a plan

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Speaker 1: right away? Well, you gotta be a special guy, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think it's hard to get thrown into a bad situation,

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Speaker 1: could break some you know psyches. I mean, didn't that

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Speaker 1: happen to David Carton and with Houston way back in

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Speaker 1: the day. And you know, there was still some theory

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Speaker 1: that David wasn't exactly the guy that stayed around the

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Speaker 1: facility until nine o'clock at night either. So I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're the right guy, I think you

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Speaker 1: play him right away. And I'm a big believer in that.

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Speaker 1: Get on with it, find out. You know, it's not

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Speaker 1: doesn't cost a lot of money anymore. Draft the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You put him in there, find out what he is.

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Speaker 1: And if his psyche is broken because he played, then

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Speaker 1: you drafted the wrong guy. You know, Watson played and

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Speaker 1: he was fine, right, I mean, you know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: big believer in play him right away. Now, Kansas City

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Speaker 1: situation was a little different because they did have Alex

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Speaker 1: Smith and he had you know, he played well, and

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Speaker 1: everybody goes back to Aaron Rodgers. Well, they had Brett

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Speaker 1: Farve there. I mean, so he could sit. But most

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Speaker 1: teams now don't have the luxury or being able to

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Speaker 1: sit those guys. Mahals. I'm not gonna ask you if

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Speaker 1: he's for real. Clearly he's for real, but it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be hard to encore after what he did last year.

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Speaker 1: It will be. But you know what they call great games.

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Speaker 1: They're very aggressive with their offense. They have playmakers all

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Speaker 1: over the place now the Tyreek Hilset's way and bears

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Speaker 1: watching if he's not on the field or a different offense.

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Speaker 1: But I you know, he's not gonna throw fifty touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: but forty five maybe, I don't think there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: much of a drop off. Does it work with Flacco

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Speaker 1: and Denver for a year? You know? There it's an upgrade.

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Speaker 1: And I talked to some people out there. They feel

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Speaker 1: it's an upgrade. But how long is it an upgrade?

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Speaker 1: I still think they're gonna draft the quarback. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be shock to see them take Drew Lock at ten.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about the young quarterbacks. What about LaVar

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Speaker 1: Jackson in Baltimore. You know, he's got to improve his passing.

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Speaker 1: You know, we all get caught up. I don't, but

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Speaker 1: a lot of people do get caught up in the

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Speaker 1: runaround quarterback who runs and look, Deshaun Watson runs, but

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Speaker 1: he throws the moves to throw. You gotta move to throw.

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Speaker 1: In this league. It's about moving the throw. You don't

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Speaker 1: get faster as you get older either. That's you know,

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Speaker 1: that's played out over the course of time, and it's

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Speaker 1: played out with the quarterback position. Look RG three burst

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Speaker 1: onto the scene, got hurt, was never the same. Colin

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Speaker 1: Kaepernick was going to revolutionize the game, and eventually they

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Speaker 1: figured it out. And look what happened. I mean as

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Speaker 1: a player, he kind of got benched at one point.

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Speaker 1: So the game eventually ends up in the pocket. So

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson got to learn how to be a passer.

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Speaker 1: Pete Prisco joining us a couple more for you. What

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Speaker 1: about the Raiders? Is this working? Is this going to work?

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown? The way they're handling their business, there's some

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Speaker 1: inconsistencies here, it seems from the outside looking at But

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Speaker 1: what do you think it'll be interesting to see how

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Speaker 1: Gruden handles Antonio Brown. That he's been good with veteran guys,

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Speaker 1: so I think, you know, maybe he's got a good

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Speaker 1: gauge on it. But look, Antonio Brown's gonna be thirty

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Speaker 1: one this summer and his yards proquetchment from in the

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Speaker 1: fifteen to the twelves last year. Is that a sign

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Speaker 1: of what's happening? Is he slowing down? Was at a

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Speaker 1: you know, a by factor of the byproduct of the

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Speaker 1: offense changing a little bit with the way that you know,

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Speaker 1: coordinators changed, So I worry about that. And then how

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Speaker 1: do you handle them? I mean, you bring a guy

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Speaker 1: like that. They got rid of Amari Cooper in large

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Speaker 1: part because they couldn't didn't like the way he handled

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Speaker 1: his business. Well, you go get a guy, you trade

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Speaker 1: for a guy that quit on his team in week seventeen.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't doesn't drive there for me. Will it work

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Speaker 1: with ob j and Cleveland? And who got the better

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Speaker 1: of that deal? Right now, we're gonna sit here and

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Speaker 1: I agree with it probably on the surface, and Antonio

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Speaker 1: Brown and the Raiders got the better of that deal

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Speaker 1: because they got a player, good player, and the Brown's

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Speaker 1: probably got the better of that deal. Two years from now,

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Speaker 1: we might be looking back on and saying, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we were all wrong because sometimes when you get draft

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Speaker 1: picks for receivers, particularly, you look at it and you go,

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Speaker 1: oh boy, that's the big play. Receivers gonna be a star,

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Speaker 1: But they don't ever play to what they were. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Joey Galloway was traded for two ones, right, Roy Williams.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we can go on and on and they

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Speaker 1: never worked out. So so for me, I think there's

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Speaker 1: a risk there, and right now, on the surface, the

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Speaker 1: two teams that got the receivers got the better players,

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Speaker 1: and it looks like they won. But two years from

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Speaker 1: now that might change. I'll give you another one, peerless

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Speaker 1: price franchise that goes to Atlanta doesn't exactly work. He

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Speaker 1: ends up back in Buffalo, actually right, I mean there's

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Speaker 1: been boatloads of him. Yeah, you know, Gruden got rid

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Speaker 1: of Keishan after they remember they got Keyshon. He got

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Speaker 1: in there and he got rid of them. So I

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Speaker 1: think you got to be careful with receivers in second spots.

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Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite vandom Mir's view. I'm

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Speaker 1: big Pete Prisco fan. I knew to some he can

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Speaker 1: be sort of prickly, but I love him. I grew

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Speaker 1: up I was a young adult reading Pete Prisco when

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Speaker 1: he was in Jacksonville, so I actually got to know

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Speaker 1: him a little bit through that and connect with him

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Speaker 1: at the combine. So I was glad Mark I got

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Speaker 1: a chance to catch up with him for that vandom

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Speaker 1: Miers view. Now we will close down the show with

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Speaker 1: my personal favorite podcast, and that is Are in the Lab.

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Speaker 1: Drew Dorty and I did some what ifs. Definitely got

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Speaker 1: to check these out next on Texans All Access. One

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Speaker 1: final segment of our podcast Celebration Day right here on

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Monday Texans Radio Studio. I

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Speaker 1: am John Harris, football anals to Silent reporter and one

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Speaker 1: half of the In the Lab crew. Drew Dorty and

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Speaker 1: I make up that team. And we love doing this

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Speaker 1: podcast and this is an opportunity for us to kind

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Speaker 1: of geek out and just talk about, you know, really

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Speaker 1: detailed stuff sometimes sometimes some really fun stuff and then

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Speaker 1: sometimes some what if stuff. What if? Yeah, check this out.

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Speaker 1: This is our podcast in the Lab. We last week

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Speaker 1: did it in the Lab on what Ifs in Texans

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Speaker 1: history and it got it got some really good responses

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Speaker 1: on social media and one of them, well, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna get into it, but we've got three scenarios for sure,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna outline and go over today. One

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Speaker 1: of them is what if the Texans had won in

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Speaker 1: twenty and eighteen at Philadelphia that was a Week sixteen game.

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Speaker 1: Another one is what if the Texans had signed Drew

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Speaker 1: Brees in two thousand and six as a free agent.

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Speaker 1: And the third and it's the whopper of them all

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Speaker 1: and I really think the what if of them all?

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Speaker 1: And Greg Roging of Houston Chronicle brought this up, but

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Speaker 1: he I think it's the whopper of them all, and

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Speaker 1: it's what if Matt shob had not gotten injured in

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Speaker 1: two thousand eleven. Yeah, but let's start with the win

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Speaker 1: this season or what could have happened. That's the one.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it's the most recent one, so but I think

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Speaker 1: a lot about it. And what if the Texans had

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Speaker 1: won that game thirty twenty nine. What you know, what

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Speaker 1: if Clowne's penalty is not called alshon, Jeffrey doesn't hang

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Speaker 1: out of the ball, it's gotta be fourth and long

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Speaker 1: with foals and you get that win, and there would

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Speaker 1: have been so many Now you would have still had

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Speaker 1: to beat the Jaguars to get the buy. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are ready to mail it in and so

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Speaker 1: you really didn't have to exert all that much effort.

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Speaker 1: I think where where we ran into a little bit

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Speaker 1: of an issue in twenty eighteen was the fact that

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Speaker 1: you were playing every single week at the end that

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Speaker 1: bye week is so important, and I think that's that's

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Speaker 1: where I think, Man, Okay, you got the Colts in

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Speaker 1: the first round. It's probably it's a bad matchup because

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Speaker 1: the Cults were the Coats were on fire. They know you,

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Speaker 1: they beat you a few weeks prior, and you know

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Speaker 1: they've got a couple of pieces you don't match up

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Speaker 1: with well. You and you just didn't play well and

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Speaker 1: you were banged up. You couldn't really use that week.

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Speaker 1: But I think about that now, I think I think

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Speaker 1: the Texans would have had the buy tiebreaker with the Chief.

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Speaker 1: Not totally sure, but let's say they didn't. They would

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Speaker 1: have been the two seed. The Patriots would have been

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Speaker 1: the three seed. So that means the Patriots would have

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Speaker 1: had to play the Colts in the first round and

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Speaker 1: the Chargers would have played the Ravens. So say the

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Speaker 1: Chargers still win if the Colts win. If the Colts

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Speaker 1: upset the Patriots, the Colts would have gone to Kansas

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Speaker 1: City as they did, and the Chargers would have then

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Speaker 1: come here to play us. The Colts weren't going to

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Speaker 1: be the Patriots, so one of the likely the Patriots

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Speaker 1: would have come here for a Division around playoff game,

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Speaker 1: and this city would have been amped up for that game.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt. I don't know if the Patriots would

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Speaker 1: be the team I would have wanted to see in

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Speaker 1: the divisional round. Then again, the division around playoff game,

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Speaker 1: I'll take any time. But how important is that division

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Speaker 1: around game the Patriots? Every single championship, every single super

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Speaker 1: Bowl the Patriots have gone to, they've had a buy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: every single one they've gone to, every single one they won.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. Nine nine super bowls. I think it is. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm counting the one from way back, is that right?

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Speaker 1: I think it's nine super Bowls because they've lost the

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Speaker 1: Giants and Giants and Eagles. Yeah, six of the nine,

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Speaker 1: it's nine. They every single one that they have gone to,

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Speaker 1: it's they've gotten to buy that first round. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a good That's a key stat to remember. The last

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Speaker 1: team that won it that I that I can remember

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Speaker 1: playing in the first week was the Ravens. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Ravens in twenty twelve had Edward ed Reid ray Lewis.

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Speaker 1: So how important is that bye week? Vital? It's a vital,

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Speaker 1: huge and that I think would have helped. They wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have gotten everybody, right, but I think it would have

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Speaker 1: gotten guys a week arrest. Relax. Just you did what

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Speaker 1: you had to do. Now, you play that game at home,

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Speaker 1: you let teams beat each other up in a playoff round,

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Speaker 1: and no doubt, no doubt. So I think that would help.

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00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: That's that's one I think a lot about because getting

639
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: that bye week, and I think people in the building

640
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: knew it. I think that afternoon against Philly, I think

641
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: there was just a lot more edge to everybody afterwards

642
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: because they knew. They just knew it what was at stake.

643
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: They knew man by week and they and the way

644
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: leave come from behind the offense got when the offense

645
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: left the field for the final time, they were leading, Yeah,

646
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: they were leading thirty to twenty nine. And then so

647
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: they kicked the extra point. Then they kick off and

648
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: special teams drives the guy out of bound, the returner

649
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: out of bounds like the ten or eleven yard. It

650
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: was a great play by the special chet. So they

651
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: had to go about ninety yards the link the field

652
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah, and that was that was unfortunately,

653
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: but I thought about that one after the year. Now

654
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: you could have said, look, what if the Texas have

655
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: beaten the Giants? You know, what if they in week three? Yeah,

656
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: what if they beat the Titans? I just feel like

657
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: the way the season played out, it's more asking what

658
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: would have happened against the Eagles because it was it

659
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: was your last last stumble. Yeah it was the lot

660
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: it was the last one. And yeah, maybe you beat

661
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: the Colts in December and that would have definitely helped

662
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: at home. But the Eagles one was right was right

663
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: there on your play. I don't know if you played

664
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: well enough in that Colts game here the regular season

665
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: game to get a win, but you had the Eagles

666
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: on the ropes with two minutes left in the game

667
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: and you're up one and they got to drive nine yards.

668
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: So from that perspective, man, that would have given you

669
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: a divisional round game. You let playoff games play in

670
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: front of you, then you plan it out and you

671
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: play on that Saturday, and just man, you would have been.

672
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: You would have been in a good position. Could could

673
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: you have beaten the Rams or the Saints or whoever

674
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl? Now? Who knows? But if you

675
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: do get the Patriots and you do knock them off

676
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: in the division around, now maybe you go to Kansas City,

677
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: and I mean, who doesn't want to see who doesn't

678
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: want to see Watson Mahomes against each other. The field,

679
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna see quite a bit of that. For sure.

680
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna see it in the regular season, but I

681
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: get the field, We're gonna see quite a bit of

682
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: that over the next decade. Yeah, so that's definitely one

683
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 1: that we need to That's a what if we need

684
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: to look at all. Right, but let's go back to six,

685
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: and this is a little bit more obscure. I don't

686
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: hear too many people ever bring this too many people

687
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: ever bring this one Upright, Gary Kubiak is the new

688
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: quarterback in Houston. But Gary Kubiak is the new but

689
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak is the new head coach in Houston. David

690
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: Carr is still the quarterback, but Drew Brees is out

691
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: there as a free agent, thought about signing with the Dolphins,

692
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: thought about signing with the Saints, and made the decision

693
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: to go in New Orleans. Yeah, Well, what if the

694
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: Texans had gotten in the fray and signed Drew Brees

695
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: as the quarterback in two thousand and six, John, what

696
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: do you think happens? How's that alter the trajectory of

697
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: this franchise. I think by the time you get to

698
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, two ten. Now, once you get

699
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: Drew in here in two thousand and six, I think

700
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: what happens is everything gets gets moved up because with

701
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: Drew you realize, oh boy, we've got something here. I

702
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: think you just would have moved everything up, and that

703
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: I think would have been you would have seen in

704
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,959
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, Holy cow, we're gonna be pretty good.

705
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: So maybe at that point, I don't want to say

706
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: that there's a there's a rush to do things, but

707
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: maybe you speed things up because you realize, okay, we're

708
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: not still expansion team building step by step by step.

709
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it's hey, we can be a

710
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: factor with we can be with this guy, we can

711
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: be good. We can be really good boy Breeze to

712
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson. I mean the number of different levels that

713
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: this can go is you got Breeze to Andre Johnson,

714
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: and then DeAndre Hopkins comes along in thirteen, and you know,

715
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: obviously butterfly effect. Who knows what whether DeAndre would have

716
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: been available to you at that point, but I think

717
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: you move everything up. And at that point, if you

718
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: move everything up, I think a perfect spot to look

719
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: is the Super Bowl when Breeze took on paid Manning.

720
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean that would have been that would have been

721
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: a twice a year deal with Breeze on one side

722
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning on the other. And at one point

723
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: you were going to break through, and it may have

724
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: been that two thousand and nine season, may have been

725
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, maybe it would have. Definitely if

726
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: you had gotten close to nine and ten, you would

727
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: have put it over the top. And eleven. Now the

728
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: key to me at some point is could you have

729
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: gotten a Wade Phillips If not Wade Phillips, could you

730
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: got to Wade Phillips like defensive coordinator that could have

731
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: come in here and really gotten the defense going when

732
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: the offense was gonna get going. Because by two thousand

733
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: and eight, two thousand and nine, you're the best offense

734
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: in the league, like it's not even close. The only

735
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: team that's probably close to you at that point as

736
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: the Patriots because they got Brady Welker Moss and that's

737
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: probably the only one that's close to you. But you

738
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: have a chance to have the best offense in a league.

739
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: Can you match you with some defense? And that's obviously

740
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: with the Saints did in two thousand and nine, so

741
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: to me kind of using mirror, and I know they're

742
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: not they're not the same. But you know what happens

743
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: if the Texans end up with Greg Williams in two

744
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, two thousand and nine and Breeze is

745
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: running things. I think he got a good a chance

746
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: to get to a title in nine or ten as

747
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: you did in eleven or twelve, and maybe better because Breezes,

748
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: say Breeze stays healthy, he stays healthy through ten or eight, nine, ten,

749
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna win a ring, or at a minimum,

750
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: go to one of those Super Bowls, one of those

751
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: super Bowls, because if there was a time to catch

752
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots in a lull, because seven o seven was

753
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots that year, but then after that they started

754
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: to fall off a little bit. Oh eight, Brady gets hurt.

755
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: Castle's got to step in. Oh nine, the Patriots, they

756
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: look good, They look good at nine, they did, but

757
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: that was the year they lost in the first round

758
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: to the Ravens. Twenty ten, they got the two tight ends,

759
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: they got Gronk and they got Hernandez, so they started

760
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: to kind of offensively get it going, but they got

761
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: knocked off in the divisional round. By the Jets. Two

762
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: thousand and eleven, the Patriots kind of back on track.

763
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: They got to the Super Bowl, didn't win it, but

764
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: got back there. Twelve they lost in a championship game

765
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: in the Ravens, and then thirty From thirteen on they

766
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: just dominated. They've been dominated other than them in the Broncos,

767
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: you know, throughout those years. So I feel like that

768
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: would have been the time period you really needed to

769
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: take advantage. The year Brady was hurting no way, the

770
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: year they were kind of down, and oh nine and

771
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: twenty ten they weren't all the way back yet. You

772
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to eight, nine, ten to kind of

773
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: step in there and fill the void if you can

774
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: knock off the Anneapolis Colts. But if you got Breeze,

775
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: you definitely could do that. All right, let's get to

776
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: the whopper of them all. What if match Shop does

777
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: not go down in that game at Tampa Bay and

778
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: really you didn't know it had what had happened in

779
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. What if he doesn't get hurt at Tampa Bay,

780
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: Texans leave against the Buccaneers with a victory, a big

781
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: victory too. If you go to seven and three, Yep,

782
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: they're rolling. Yep, what if shop stays healthy the rest

783
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: of the way. I think they win a few more

784
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: games than they would have. Yeah, I think they've got

785
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: that by that you're talking about. But ultimately, I don't

786
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: know that they do go to the super Bowl. I

787
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: know that's the everyone says, Oh they're in the super Bowl,

788
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: they win it. Yeah, I still just I don't know

789
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: that they win it that year. But I do think

790
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: they win more games in December to set themselves up

791
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: for more in January. I think they might get to

792
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: the championship game, but I'm not sure still that they

793
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: win it. Well, because you still had the Patriots, Okay, yeah, exactly,

794
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: you still you still have the Patriots, and that was

795
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: a good that was two thousand eleven team was a

796
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: good team. You still had Welker on that team. You

797
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: had Gronk becoming Gronk, you had Hernandez. They just they

798
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: were made they were made a little differently. So um,

799
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: it's I don't think it's outside the round possibility to

800
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: think that AFC Championship Game. I don't say a lock,

801
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: But could they have beat First of all, did they

802
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: get they if they get the buy, can they win

803
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: one game? At home. While I think they could which shop,

804
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: I think they could have totally you get a buy.

805
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: I think about this way the bye that would have

806
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: been the first playoff game here since ninety three. It

807
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: would have been um, it would have been electric. Now

808
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: they would have been carrying a lot of pressure. But

809
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: and you're are you likely playing the Ravens here instead

810
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: of playing them there? Man, that's a good question. And

811
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: if you are, I think you which shob. I think

812
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: you roll in that game. I think you win by

813
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: seven points. I think you can. I think you can

814
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: win that game. So that puts you in a championship

815
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: game going in New England in two thousand eleven. Now,

816
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: at that point, do you feel like you're playing with

817
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: house money? First time you ever been ANFC championship game?

818
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: Do you play kind of like the Jaguars did in

819
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,959
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen where you didn't have a care in the world.

820
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: You're just playing, and all of a sudden you look up,

821
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: You're like, hey, we're ahead of these guys in the

822
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. You know, could you have finished it in

823
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter? I contend the Patriots probably that year

824
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: would have beat you, but I think it would And

825
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: I know, people will say, well, twenty twelve the Patriots

826
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: hammered the Texans. That's a different team. It was a

827
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: definitely a different team at a different time. I think

828
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: one of the big things you had going in twenty

829
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: eleven was you had Cush. Yeah, Cushing was the MVP

830
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: of the team in the year. When you go back

831
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: and you watch twenty eleven and you see how good

832
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: Cush what Oh my goodness, I was watching the playoff

833
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: game the other day. Oh he was. He was unbelievable.

834
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: So if you got shob plus, you have less questions

835
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: up front on the right side, You're not starting two

836
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: rookies and Ben Jones exactly. That's a great point. So

837
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: I think twenty I've I've always said this. I felt

838
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: like twenty eleven was the shot that was the best

839
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: shot at a middle of them to get the FC

840
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: Championship game. Yeah, to get to the super Bowl. Now

841
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: you get the Super Bowl, you play the Giants. I

842
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: think I think you can beat the Giants if you

843
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: get there. Yeah, I think you can beat the Giants.

844
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: It was tough getting out of the AC Yeah, I

845
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: think it would have been tough for geting out of

846
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: the AFC and beating New England at New England. To me,

847
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 1: that's what it comes down to. Wish Shob with Cush

848
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: healthy in twenty eleven, can you beat New England in

849
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: New England to go to the Super Bowl? And a

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Speaker 1: people will hear this and say, never beat in New

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Speaker 1: England New England. That twenty eleven team was wired a

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Speaker 1: little bit differently, especially with Kush being there. And then

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Speaker 1: if you've got Shob, now you're still locked in offensively

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Speaker 1: the things that you can do. And look, we love TJ.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, he's he's a Texans legend, sure,

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Speaker 1: you know for what he's been able to do and

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Speaker 1: now he's back with the organization. But even he'll tell

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Speaker 1: you those man he's throwing it through fire in those games, shops,

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Speaker 1: going into situations where he's seeing teams. He's seen the

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Speaker 1: Ravens again, he's seen the Ravens before, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: seen Cincinnati. He's you know, he's not phazed by any

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Speaker 1: of that. And it would have been, hey, let's take

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Speaker 1: a one shot deal against the Patriots to go to

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. I'm with you on that, Drew. I

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Speaker 1: think could I think it would have been a really

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Speaker 1: good game, But I think in the end, Patriots playing

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Speaker 1: at home probably wouldn't that buy a field goal or so. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you go a little further than losing in

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Speaker 1: the divisional round on the road. Yeah, I think maybe

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Speaker 1: it's you win a one, you win a divisional round

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Speaker 1: game at home, and the title game. But I still

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Speaker 1: just I don't know. I just don't see them overcoming

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Speaker 1: that hump. Those darn Patriots. They're always in the way.

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Speaker 1: At some point you got to move them out of

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Speaker 1: the way to get to where you want to go.

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Speaker 1: That was really fun. It was our podcast celebration. Now

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Speaker 1: tomorrow being July fourth, we're gonna celebrate the Great Americans. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to tune in to that to see

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Speaker 1: what it's all about. But our theme week continues life

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Speaker 1: in the NFL Texans Top one hundred moments. Today was

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Speaker 1: a podcast celebration, and tomorrow the theme is Great Americans

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Speaker 1: on the Greatest of American Days. July fourth, coming up tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys listening. Thank you so much. Go check

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Speaker 1: out all of our podcasts. We'll see you tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: as always, go Texans.