1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to No Ducks. The EuroBasket semifinals are set. Josh 2 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: Giddy finally signed a contract. Adam Silver said some stuff, 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: but we'll get to that on Friday show. Let's start 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: with some other stuff. I'm Tasmelus. This was my last 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: year for EuroBasket. That's the way we roll in the middle. 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: It's my man, Trey Kirby. Heyo, Hey, Trey, are you 7 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: excited to talk about Josh Giddy's contract? I know you 8 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: already talked about it. You dropped a short on it. 9 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: Have you gotten any more excited because we gotta start 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: with that, man. 11 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 2: Have I gotten any more excited to talk about it? No? 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: But I've read a lot of opinions on this Josh 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: Giddy deal, and let me just say I was right. 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: The first time. You were right the first times. I 15 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: know it right away. Yeah, four years, one hundred million 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: dollars back a few months ago. Seemed to be that 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls wanted to pay him eighty while Josh Gaty 18 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: wanted one hundred and twenty. You said they would meet 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: right in the middle, and that is exactly what happened. 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: All those four years are guaranteed, no options, So here 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: they are one hundred million dollars Josh Katy getting paid 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: twenty five per for the next four seasons, and you 23 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: don't feel any more excited after talking about it. 24 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: Uh, Look, people put my opinion on Giddy. He was 25 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: not my favorite player when he was on the Thunder. 26 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: Within the first ten games of the twenty three to 27 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: twenty four season, I said, they're gonna have to bench 28 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: this guy in the playoffs. Guess what they did. Then 29 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: they traded him to my favorite team, the Chicago Bulls, 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: and easily won the championship with the return of Alex Caruso. 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: Giddy had an awesome second half of the season last 32 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: year once Zach Lavine was shipped out. It was basically 33 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 2: twenty points, nine rebounds, and nine assists and a ridiculous 34 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: forty six percent from three. That ain't gonna happen again. 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: But maybe he can shoot thirty seven percent from three. 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: He's only twenty two years old. He'll be twenty three 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: at the start of the season. Definitely coming off his 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: best season ever. I'm just pretty skeptical that you can 39 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: build a real winning team around Josh Gitty. You have 40 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: to build a team perfectly around Giddy to succeed, and 41 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if the kind of team that's around 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: him is the kind of team that wins in the NBA. 43 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: It's not gonna win the next couple seasons. But at 44 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: the same time, that's why I'm fine with it for 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: the next couple of years. Maybe in year three, in 46 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: year four of this four year contract, when they do 47 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: want to build great players when they are a great team, 48 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: when they do see that Josh Gitty hasn't really improved 49 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: or is playing well in the first half of the season, 50 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: then maybe they say, wholl this twenty five million is 51 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: really setting us back. But you mentioned all the stats. 52 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: The stats are nice, as you said after the All 53 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: Star break twenty one, ten and nine. Wow, those are 54 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: really really good numbers. But before the All Star Game, 55 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: when he played fifty one games, he was scoring twelve 56 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: points a game, shooting forty four from the floor thirty 57 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: four percent from three. Not all that great. That being said, 58 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: they're not paying anybody else, so why not pay a 59 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: guy who is twenty two years old and could get 60 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: even better. Literally, next year, Josh Getty will be their 61 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: highest paid player. Vouch is making less, Collins is making less. 62 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: Pat Williams making less, and then the following season they 63 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: are only playing Patrick Williams. They have Isaac Accorro signed. 64 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: That's it. Vouch's done, Zach Collins has done, herd is done. 65 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: They're not paying anybody else, So why not have this 66 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: guy who could honestly get better the next couple years. 67 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: But as you said in Oka, see when he was 68 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: playing with better players, it wasn't working all that well. 69 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: You thought they had to sit him in the playoffs 70 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: because he wasn't hitting the three all that well and 71 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: he wasn't handling the ball, and they did that. Now, 72 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: maybe a couple of years later he would be better 73 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: playing around Shay and Jalen Williams. But at the same 74 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: time he was taking away so many opportunities for Jalen Williams. 75 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they really had like the same usage rate 76 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: the last year that he played in OKC, and then 77 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: Jalen Williams was allowed to do more when he left. 78 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: And I just worry about a Bulls team that's trying 79 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: to be good when they do have guys other than 80 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: the guys I named, when they really don't have, when 81 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: they have some capable players that he'll be taking away 82 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: something from them and not making them any better, and 83 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: not making their defense any better, that's for sure. So 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: you're right that it just seems like they got to 85 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: build a perfect team around this guy. 86 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the team they built around him is one 87 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 2: that will kind of thrive, like Giddy pushes the pace. 88 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: He's best playing in transition. He is a good rebounder 89 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: for a point guard, and he is a good passer, 90 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: especially in transition. But in the Thunder series when he 91 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: was playing in the playoffs, and then even to a 92 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: smaller extent in the play in tournament this year when 93 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: it was Bulls against Heat, the game slows down. You 94 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: have to play half court basketball, and Giddy isn't a 95 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: very good half court basketball player because either he has 96 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: to have the ball and handle and make all the plays, 97 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: in which case they're playing under him on screens and 98 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: he's not a threat, or he's playing off the ball 99 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: when he really isn't a threat. Teams are still helping 100 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: off of him even if he shoots forty percent, because 101 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: he takes two or three per game and takes them 102 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: very slowly. So I don't know the Bulls were gonna 103 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: sign gideyback. That was never a question. They traded Cruso 104 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: for him, got back nothing else in return, So that 105 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: makes you think the Bulls think this guy is worth 106 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: a couple of first round picks. I disagree that was 107 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: their assessment. They did an okay job. I think this 108 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: is just like an okay contract. It's not terrible, but 109 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: it's not good. They could have gotten him on a 110 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: cheaper deal. I just don't think that this committing to 111 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 2: Giddy for four years doesn't do anything for me. It 112 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: doesn't make the team better. He's not like a major 113 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: prospect out there. He's a decent starting point guard, but like, 114 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: is he a top twenty point guard in the league. 115 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: He's probably in like the fifteen to twenty range. There 116 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: are so many guys you would take over Giddy, and 117 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: there are guys you can find like that. I'm encouraged 118 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: that his deal is probably a little bit better than 119 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: a guy like a Manual Quickly, like they're in the 120 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: same sort of tier as players, and Giddy's making five 121 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: million dollars less for another year later. I'm just worried 122 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: that when it's not March, Giddy isn't the same player. 123 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: You can go back and look at his career splits. 124 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: It wasn't just last year that he had an awesome March. 125 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: It's every single year. When a third of the teams 126 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: of the league give up and a third of the 127 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: teams are ready for the playoffs, that's when Giddy thrives. 128 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: If he's able to play as a twenty point per 129 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: game triple double for the entire season, then I'll gladly 130 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: eat my words because the Bulls have an awesome player. 131 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 2: If that's the case, I don't know that that is 132 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: going to be the case. And that is the problem 133 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: to me, is because what happens we've already seen. Nobody 134 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: wanted to pay Giddy this summer. The thunder said, we 135 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: don't want them, so who else is out there? If 136 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: it doesn't go well in year one or year two, 137 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: then it's an apotossible contract to trade. And even if 138 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: it is a cheap ish deal twenty five million dollars 139 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: per year, though it is different annually, it still matters. 140 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: Take a look at the Denver Nuggets. Zeke Naji signed 141 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: a four year, thirty two million dollar deal and everybody's like, ah, 142 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: who cares just eight million dollars a year? And now 143 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: it's one of the worst contracts in the league and 144 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: completely untradable. And part of the reason the Nuggets weren't 145 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: able to build a bench was because they had a 146 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: random wasted eight million dollars there. Giddy makes three times that. 147 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: That's what I'm a little concerned about. 148 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they have another guy on their contract and 149 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: Pat Williams, who's also signed to a very bad deal. 150 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: He's really the only guy who signed long term other 151 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: than Josh Gitty, other than their draft picks in Noah 152 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: Sangay and Matus Buzzellus. But really, this is what we're 153 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: looking at here. And so when you're looking at the 154 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: team and you see Giddy and Pat Williams, you can't 155 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: be all that excited. But you also can't be that 156 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: mad that you're signing a twenty two year old to 157 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: a contract that ain't all that high. With this new 158 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: CBA common and all this TV money throwing at Adam Silver, 159 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: who now says that a lot of people don't watch 160 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: games anymore. We'll get to that on Friday. That'll be 161 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: a hot debate. But this is what the bulls are 162 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: and again the next two years, I think it is. 163 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: It is kind of fine because you're just hoping that 164 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: this guy turned into what he is in the second half. 165 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: But those are drastically different numbers. As you said, it 166 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: has happened before that he's really good in the first half, 167 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: or excuse me, just fine in the first half and 168 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: then takes another level in the second half. But those 169 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: numbers are really drastically different. This was his first year 170 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: as a sort of a go to guy, and again 171 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: I don't need to go over those numbers again, but 172 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: they are so much better in the second half, so 173 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: they are what they are really. I do think in 174 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: a couple of years though, that's that number, considering the 175 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: new CBA deal, is probably tradeable to, especially a bad 176 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: team that will take on a twenty five million dollar player. 177 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the good are still out there elsewhere. 178 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Kings are still out there, So there's a 179 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: team that can make a mistake and trade for him. 180 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: But other than that, I don't know who it's going 181 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: to be. Because when you're ranking low opinion front offices, 182 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: the bulls up come up pretty quickly, so I don't 183 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: know who's going to be, Like, Oh, we're gonna save 184 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: Josh Giddy. As for the cap space plan, save me 185 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: from the cap space plan. I remember the Bulls caps 186 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: place cap space plan in two thousand. I remember the 187 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: other one in twenty ten, and guess what, none of 188 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: the big free name, big free agents come to Chicago. 189 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 2: I think we just saw Jeff Tigue was the guy 190 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: saying nobody wants to sign in Chicago. So they're going 191 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: to go into next season with all this cap space 192 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: hoping to sign who Lebron James as a forty two 193 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: year old Kevin Durant, No, he's going to be back 194 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: with the Rockets. James Harden as an old man doesn't 195 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: make sense. So maybe they're hoping for a Yiannis trade. 196 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: But I don't know. This is not a bad deal, 197 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 2: but it just piles up with all the different things 198 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: the Bulls have done. They're still allegedly rebuilding, and it 199 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: feels like they're still completely in the same place they 200 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 2: were three years ago. I would have rather said goodbye 201 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: to Giddy completely bottomed out and actually had a shot 202 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: at a major prospect next year. 203 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, this team can't can't be bad. They can't be good, 204 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: but they also can't be bad. They got to stay 205 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: in that play in tournament space you mentioned in the Sacrament 206 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: of Kings is the team they could trade Giddy two. 207 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: The Kings did offer the number thirteen pick in the 208 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four draft win Instead, he ended up going 209 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: to Okay. See, they decided that sorry that Alex Caruso 210 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: was the guy to trade for the number thirteen pick 211 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: ended up being Devin Carter. So, you know, Josh Giddy 212 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: not bad in comparison. He is better in comparison. Yeah, 213 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: and he makes good for good tweets because he makes 214 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: some great moments. He also makes some WTF moments. I mean, 215 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: I think he leads in both those categories. What that 216 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: is going on with this guy? But also, wow, that's 217 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. He hit a shot from his butt once. 218 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: I remember that. That was pretty cool. But here we are. 219 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: You mentioned Emmanuel Quickly before we move on. I mean, 220 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: that's that that that hurts man, because you're right, the 221 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: Manual Quickly contract by the toront Rappers was a monster. 222 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: It was a big contract. He definitely has been hurt. 223 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: But at the same time, now we're looking at those 224 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: two guys, and I would say a lot of teams 225 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: would pick Josh Gitty over Emmanuel Quickly, which is crazy. 226 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: Hopefully Quickly plays a little bit better this coming season. 227 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: That's just some raptor talk man. Help quickly plays basketball. Well, 228 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: let's play basketball manual quickly. All right, that's it for 229 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: Josh Gitty. Let's get to the final four bracket that 230 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: has been set in the euro Basket world. We've got 231 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: on one side, Yasaid to Kumbo against Alpern Shengun Grease 232 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: versus Turkey, and on the other side it's Germany. Germany 233 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: just beat Luca and Slovenia. They were the favorite, but 234 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: Luca was looking good in that game, and they will 235 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: take on Larry markin In and the Finns who have 236 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: never been to a EuroBasket semi final, so great for them. 237 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: Let's start with that game I just mentioned with Luca 238 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: looking good against Germany. Thirty nine points for that guy, 239 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: ten boards, seven assists, but he couldn't get it done. 240 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: Trey, Yeah, it really looked like Slovenia was on the 241 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: way to pulling off the upset here until the very 242 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: last seconds of the third quarter when Tristan de Silva 243 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: banked in a half court shot. Must have heard the news. 244 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 2: Heaves are good to go, let it fly went in. 245 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: It was part of a ten to zero run for Germany. 246 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: That got them back into the game with Slovenia in 247 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. Then I thought Germany it was just 248 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: a parade to the free throw line. Tys drew two 249 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 2: fouls on oh, Mitch, I believe just on rebounds. Germany 250 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: was already in the bonus at that point, so they 251 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: go to the line, shoot a bunch more free throws. 252 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: They knocked him down. To their credit, I think they 253 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: were like thirty for thirty five, thirty one for thirty six, 254 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: something around that. 255 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, by they were thirty for thirty seven. They show 256 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: a lot for sure. 257 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: They had good points. I thought the German team did. Meanwhile, 258 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: Slovenia went totally cold, and that includes Luca in the 259 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: fourth quarter and honestly into the second half. You know, 260 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: he had twenty two at halftime, was in complete control 261 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: of the game, but he missed a couple of stepbacks 262 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: early in the third quarter, finally got one to go 263 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 2: on a catch and shoot from the top of the key. 264 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 2: But in the fourth he was just cold. And when 265 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: Luca wasn't hitting, the rest of the Slovenian team couldn't 266 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: pick up the slack for him. So Germany going to 267 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: the free throw line, Luca missing a bunch of threes. 268 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: It tilted Germany's way just enough. I didn't think a 269 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: very impressive performance by the Germans, but they did score 270 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: in the nineties and you're gonna win a lot of 271 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: games that. 272 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: Way, You're right. Dennis Schuter six, Franz Wagner five to seventeen, 273 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: so their top two scorers didn't have efficient nights, but 274 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: it was free throw fun. I thought this was a 275 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: difficult game to watch. I'll never say that about a 276 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: EuroBasket game, but it happened here. I know. In the stream, 277 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: team got people mentioning that even the German commentators were 278 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: complaining about the ref's calling too many fouls, some horrible reffing. 279 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: If you want to blame someone, blame Luca. He got 280 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: mad early in this game. He literally got mad two 281 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: minutes and eighteen seconds into this game. During a live play, 282 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: he got bump taking a three point He's trying to 283 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: draw foul during a live play. He just starts complaining 284 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: to the ref. The ref was trying to put everybody 285 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: in order. Gives him a technical foul and you can 286 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: see Luca coming over saying what did I say? What 287 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: did I say, well, you complained about it, and really 288 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't that bad until you had the fourth quarter. 289 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: And I don't know if the rest were just trying 290 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: to get things in order a little bit more, because 291 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: you know, Luca got calls. And yeah, the Germans did 292 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: end up shooting thirty seven free throws. Slovenia shot twenty 293 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: five free throws. I mean, I don't know if Luca 294 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: was just mad that there was a slight delay to 295 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: start the game because the mesh ripped and a guy 296 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: had to go up and fix the mesh, and Luca 297 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: went and put on his jacket to stay warm. He's 298 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: wondering what was going on, but it really wasn't that long. 299 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: It's like ninety seconds or something. And honestly, that first quarter, 300 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: after doing sun complaining, man, he got going. He's just 301 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: those those fling passes. He had two full court passes, 302 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: and then after a whistle he had a mid cord 303 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: shot that literally was just just a dead ball shot. 304 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: And then he just started going. Next possession, give me 305 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: the ball, I feel good. Deep three, then another deep 306 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: three minute later, and then he got cold, but he 307 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: got hot again. He even tapped Daniel Tyson's butt once 308 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: after he beat Daniel Tyson's cord on him. I mean, yes, 309 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: it was difficult to watch those those fouls, but I 310 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: don't think there was anything to complain about unless you're 311 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: Luca and Slovenia. They complained so fricking much in this game, 312 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: and I just thought this was a fun EuroBasket so far. 313 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been sitting here watching every single minute 314 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: and it wasn't until this game where it was just like, ah, yeah, 315 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: it was a little tough. I didn't I haven't checked 316 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: the duration of every game, but this felt like the 317 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: longest game. I think it was two hours and ten 318 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: minutes for a forty minute game because of the fourth quarter. 319 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: But for no complaints. For Germany, obviously they just came 320 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: out and finished the job. They just got those shots 321 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: from their deep, deep team, while Slovenia it really is 322 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: a tale of one guy. That guy can hit a 323 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: lot of shots while everybody else they couldn't come through 324 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. 325 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right, and you know, I do think 326 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: that there were valid complaints on both sides. But also 327 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: Luca picked up a fourth file two minutes in to 328 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: the third quarter and he was hacking there were some 329 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: fouls that could have easily been called on Luca, but 330 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 2: they're like, we're not going to disqualify you from a 331 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 2: game of this magnitude when you're playing well and you've 332 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: got a chance at an upset. So I think he 333 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 2: was living on the edge from the very beginning, and 334 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: it just came back to bite Slovenia because the margin 335 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: for error for them is so little, So once they 336 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: went like one for eight, one for nine from three 337 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, they were gonna have to make 338 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: some of those wide open shots that they were generating. 339 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: I thought they had the German team for about thirty 340 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: five minutes. Luca hit that free from the left wing, 341 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: he's flexing. It seemed like it could have gone gone 342 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: their way, but then they just picked up a couple 343 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: of tiki tak files and at that point it was 344 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: already bonus jobs. So Germany to the line Franz Wagner 345 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 2: thirteen to fourteen of the line. Shrewder ended up going 346 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: seven for nine at the free throw line as well. 347 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: What a free throws do win games? That goes worldwide? 348 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't start until, as you said, Tristan to Silva, 349 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: hitting that running mid court shot. End of the third quarter. 350 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: They were down seven. He hits that shot, it goes 351 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: to four. Luca's on the bench to start the fourth 352 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: quarter and he comes back and they're all tied up. 353 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: And then that's when Germany took a lead. I mean, really, 354 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: Slovenia led until that point. And then there's just enough 355 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: guys he got team in that we see whenever we 356 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: turn to these international games. Johannes Teaman. That guy was 357 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: playing in the post in the fourth quarter. I mean, 358 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 1: the German coach was throwing out some stuff that they 359 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: weren't seeing, so he went and scored in the post. 360 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: Then he made a pass from the post on a 361 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: split screen Tomaudo low for a three, and you could 362 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: just see the Germans were happy. You could see Dennis 363 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: Shreuder and his Chompers smiling on the bench. He was 364 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: so happy. I mean he I saw chompers twice in 365 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: this game when he drew the charge on Luca and 366 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: then win. Ohs, your guy, he hit that three. 367 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: This guy, I hate this guy. I'm not even gonna 368 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: be upset of Germany wins. I'm not cheering for the 369 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: teams that Germany is playing against, but when he makes 370 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: a shot, it just feels so infuriating. He did try 371 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: and take another one very similar the next possession down 372 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: air ball. I was cheering like crazy on that one, 373 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: but you're right, double chompers performance for Shrewd straight up 374 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: looked like the Grinch after drawing the charge on Luca early. 375 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: On, Guy's got big teeth. I don't know if I'm 376 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: sitting really close to my monitor, but that those teeth 377 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: are really big. We got to comment here from each 378 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: crab on the stream team, sixty plus free throws combined 379 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: is abominable in an NBA game, much less a forty 380 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: minute fever game. Yeah, you're doing some great math right there. 381 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: It was. It was difficult to watch much too much 382 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: complaining a game. After I said I liked Lucas complaining 383 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: in his final in the round of sixteen, I didn't 384 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: like his complaining in this one, although I did like 385 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: Daniel Tye's performance. I didn't know that they just gave 386 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: a player of the game to everybody. 387 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: I forget trophy, right, Like they give him a tiny 388 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 2: little trophy shout out to jo Justin's I don't know 389 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 2: where they're getting. 390 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: Those, Yeah, right, right, Yes, it's Justin's but it was 391 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: for Daniel Tice. He got it, didn't go to France, 392 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: didn't go to I guess. 393 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: He was boreding there at the end he filed out. 394 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: Dude filed out as well. What that's crazy. 395 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: I think he didn't foul it. I don't think. But 396 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: he got four fouls but didn't I mean, my thing 397 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: says he's got four. But he did have an efficient 398 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: game for sure, fifteen points, nine boards. And the commentator 399 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: thought he was playing so well. He said, quote, Daniel 400 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: Tice with some aerial artistry. You don't see, you don't 401 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: hear tye get called for his aerial artistry. I mean 402 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: he had a nice move and he's playing well obviously. 403 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: So there we are. Germany goes on to the next 404 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: round two face Finland. We'll get to this one here now. 405 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: Finland beat Georgia again. Finland going to the EuroBasket semifinals 406 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: for the first time in their history. 407 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: Tray, this is fun, man, I'm all in on the 408 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: finished team. They're probably the most fun team to watch 409 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: because they are the most curveball style. They played the 410 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: five out in a half court, but they're also looking 411 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: to run and gun and shoot threes. Lowry Markinen is 412 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: bringing it. He's got a chance at the MVP if 413 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: Finland is somehow able to overcome Germany. I think they 414 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: lost by thirty in the group stage, so not encouraging. 415 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: But seventeen points, six boards, four blocks for Marketing as 416 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: as Georgia was making a bit of a comeback in 417 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, two huge blocks I thought from market In, 418 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: which was pretty key in holding off the comeback. It 419 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: was a great team performance, I thought for Finland. They 420 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: outscored the Georgian team forty four to four. From the bench, 421 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: yanson In was pretty massive. Nineteen points, three threes, he 422 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: was scoring on cuts, hitting open shots. It was just 423 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 2: a team wide great performance for Finland. 424 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: Forty four to four for their bench, it's absolutely ridiculous. 425 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, thirty to two after the first half. Everybody 426 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: helping out, I mean everybody helping out. When Lowry Markin 427 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: isn't your leading scorer in a game, that means yeah, 428 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: this team is absolutely connected. And I thought, actually to 429 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: start it wasn't looking all that great. I thought Felin 430 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: was just collapsing a little too much. But then some 431 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: of their guys, I thought they're collapsing defensively a little 432 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: too much. But then some of their guys coming off 433 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: the bench, Sasu Saleen their captain. I mean he just 434 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: starts faring away from three point land and hitting shots. 435 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: You mentioned Lowry's defense I thought was super super super important. 436 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: Four big blocks for that guy, while everybody else, yeah, 437 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: just kind of kept continuing to help out and hit shots. Literally, 438 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: you can go up and down the list of fins 439 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: that did it. While if you're only getting four points 440 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: from your bench for or you're kind of ft, I 441 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: simply yeah, it is. I mean, Tourning Shagalia fun, super fun, 442 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: Shanghilia is really really fun, and he was pulling off 443 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: alprin Shangun like passes, and Mammu was doing some some 444 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: things I've never seen him do before. I mean, it 445 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: was a cool post move, a cool steal of the 446 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: ball from marketing as he was bringing it up. Late 447 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: in the third quarter. He turned eleven point lead into 448 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: a nine point lead, So they were going, but they 449 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: didn't get enough otherwise from there. 450 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: Guys, Yeah, they're big guys played well. Go Go was good, 451 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: Mamu was good, Shangallia was good. But that's about it. 452 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: And the depth of Finland really won out. So here's 453 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: your slim Jesus report. Seven points and nine minutes. One 454 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 2: of them was a three pointer in one of was 455 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: an allu from Lowry Marketing. 456 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: By your stock. 457 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: That was pretty sick. Yeah, So like his like highlight 458 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: to basket ratio is at this point, and I don't 459 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: think he scored a normal basket, or at least I 460 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: haven't seen it. Fun to watch, but that's just kind 461 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: of how it was for Finland. They did a really 462 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: good job getting out in transition, built a really big 463 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: lead in the first half, and we're able to get 464 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: untracked from three. I think they finished seventeen to thirty one, 465 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: only ten threes for the Georgian side, and I thought 466 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: it was just a factor of Finland racing down the court, 467 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 2: Georgia scrambling to keep up, and then it was penetration, kick, kick, 468 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: somebody wide open for three. Just good basketball from Finland. 469 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: It was a team in Georgia just needed help from 470 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: their guards, and Kamar Baldwin has been that guy throughout 471 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: this tournament, the local Georgia boy playing for Georgia. Literally 472 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: he didn't hit a shot and they were trying to 473 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: get him going. You could see it in the third quarter. 474 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: Here you go, man, do it, and unfortunately he just 475 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: didn't have it in the fourth quarter do it. Unfortunately 476 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: they just they had their other guys doing it. But 477 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: it wasn't happening out there. Although I do want to 478 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: see what happens on Friday, and Tapio, if you're going 479 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: to Riga. Here on the stream team you're saying you're going, 480 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: come on in. Oh no, you didn't say that. My bad, 481 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: my bad, Glass of Kanyak. You said that you might 482 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 1: go to Riga on Friday. Come give us a report. 483 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: Very very interested to see what Finland does against Germany 484 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: on Friday. Should be absolutely a fun one. 485 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, this should be a great game. The Riga stadium 486 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: has been awesome. I don't know what's going on with 487 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: the acoustics in there, but when it's loud, it sounds 488 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: really really loud. 489 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the other semi final 490 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: that's happening. We'll start with the Greeks taking care of Lithuania. 491 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: They started doing a Valentunis. They threw him at Yannis 492 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: to goop up with the Greeks persevered. Yanni's a fantastic game, 493 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: as the Greeks did it top to bottom a little 494 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: bit like Finland, Trey. 495 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 2: A little bit like Finland. But at the top of 496 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 2: the Greek roster is Giannis Antetokumpo. Twenty nine points, sixteen 497 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: rebounds to assist, four steels, one block, and his mid 498 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: range is money right now, Tass, Lithuania was giving him 499 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 2: jumpers in this game, and Giannis was just walking into 500 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 2: them quite easily. He just had his best mid range 501 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: season of his NBA career, but I think he's eleven 502 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 2: for eighteen in the EuroBasket Tournament right now. He's shooting 503 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 2: it with confidence. It looks super smooth. That's something Milwaukee's 504 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 2: gonna need because honestly, they should play very similar to 505 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 2: the way the Greek team plays right now. Jianis as 506 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: point center, creating for others, also looking for his own offense, 507 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 2: and if that's the case, he's gonna have to hit 508 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: these shots when people are playing underneath him. He's shown 509 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: throughout the season into the summer that he can do that. 510 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 2: But you are a short boy as well, Tass, talking 511 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: up costas Onta Takumpo four points and four blocks in 512 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: sixteen minutes. I saw you having to tell people, look, 513 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: he's already got a deal signed with the European team 514 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: and he's not coming to the NBA. But could he 515 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: come to the NBA. It looks springy tasks. 516 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: Feels like you offer this man enough, you never know. 517 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: I think you can break that deal with Olympia Coos, 518 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: because yeah, he looks ridiculously good. And he was one 519 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: of those guys to kind of help change the game 520 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: because Jannis, honestly, the Jonas Valentiunas in the lineup was 521 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: was bugging Yannis a little bit to start. They threw 522 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: him out there along with Redizovich, and you could see 523 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: Yanis going at both those guys and he had to 524 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,239 Speaker 1: pass out. And you often don't see Janis from like 525 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: the mid range when a big hand, a big arm 526 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: forces him to pass out. And Yannis had five turnovers 527 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: in this game, and Yonis Valentiunas played thirty one minutes. 528 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: They won every single one of those minutes. They were 529 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: plus four. But he went to the bench after they 530 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: got up in the first quarter for a long time, 531 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: and Jannis just would not stop running. I mean he 532 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: started these fast breaks man over and over and over again, 533 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: and he had four steals. He's kicking ass on the 534 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: defensive end. The Greeks won the fast break twenty to four. 535 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: They started to turn the game, and a lot of 536 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: that was coast Us a Didapupo with huge blocks. A 537 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: lot of it was Vasilis Tolopolos seventeen points as the 538 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: second leading scorer behind Giannis Is twenty nine, and then 539 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: other guys, I mean Costas Slucas on the fast break, 540 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: he was eleven and four and four guy that replaced 541 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: Thomas Walkup who played there last year. They said, nah, 542 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: you're out. We'll bring in the old guy who knows 543 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: what he's doing. He was great on the break. Tyler 544 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: Dorsey as well. A couple of big steals in this game, 545 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: forcing the perimeter players of Lithuania to throw it right 546 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: up into his arms instead of Nick Koalathis. We saw 547 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: Tyler Dorsey this year. It just goes on and on 548 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: and on and on with this team. They had enough guys. 549 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: So does Coastas break his deal and say, nah, I'm 550 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: going I'm going to the United States of America. He's 551 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: twenty seven. He's in his prime, man, Yeah, he is 552 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: in his prime. 553 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. I was looking at I was looking 554 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: at the Bucks roster recently, they're only backup center at 555 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: Jericho Simms. You're telling me coastas Onto Takumpo can't outplay 556 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: Jericho Sims. Plus bring the brothers three together. 557 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 558 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: I think it's the roll of the dice for sure. 559 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: It is amazing seeing looking at this Greek team. They've 560 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: got three Adetakompo's. They also have three Coastess's and right 561 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: now they've got three NBA champions. The three bros have 562 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: all won. So yeah, bring them all back together in Milwaukee, 563 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: why not? I mean yeah, he would. He is. He's got, 564 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, a tiny bit of a push shot type 565 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: of thing on the offense end, but yeah, he's more 566 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,719 Speaker 1: of a he He's a rim runner, but he's a shopwalker. 567 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: I mean he does it really, really well. So yeah, 568 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: take Jericho Simms's job. 569 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: That's the dream. That's the new dream for the Anti 570 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: Dakoupo family. Take Jericho Simms job, or at least get 571 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: a late season call up. Why not. I'll tell you 572 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: the next Greek player in the NBA is going to 573 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: be Alexandro's Samadorof. I talked him up after their last 574 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: game five points four boards in a three and seventeen 575 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 2: minutes who's only twenty years old. I didn't realize that, 576 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: but looks like a pretty solid athlete, good size. I 577 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: think he's a draft prospect either next summer or summer 578 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: at twenty twenty seven. So I think we'll see him 579 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: in the NBA eventually. 580 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good call. I didn't know a lot 581 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: about him, and I saw sam Udorov that I ain't 582 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: a Greek name, but he was born in Greece. He's 583 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: a Georgian background actually, and so yeah, he does look great. 584 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: Although I will just say about the Lithuanian team, they 585 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: worked their butts off. As I said, they won Jonas 586 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: Valancius Tunes' is thirty one minutes, theyre plus four, that 587 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: guy dropped twenty four and fifteen. They played well, but 588 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: they were missing it showed in this game. Rocus Yakubitis, 589 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: their best guard, and then two Bellis, who I've loved 590 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: watching was zero for ten from the field when it 591 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: seems like that guy can just score at all times. 592 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: So they just were lacking a little bit, kind of 593 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,479 Speaker 1: like what the Jordians were lacking with Kamar Baldwin. They 594 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: just they didn't have it, so Grease moves on to 595 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: play Turkey. Alpern sheng Gun is in the semifinals. They 596 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: have looked impressive trade. They took out Poland in the 597 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: first quarterfinal and here we are Alprin Shengun baby Daddy. 598 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: Shehngun triple double in twenty five minutes. Youngest player ever 599 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: with a triple double in EuroBasket. Fifteen points, twelve boards, 600 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: ten assists, some absolute dimes in this one. I know 601 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: you posted the one task where he catches the ball 602 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: in the short roll, turns backwards and wows himself with 603 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: a magic Johnson he kind of pass. That was an 604 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 2: awesome one. But I thought every one of his assists 605 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: was pretty He was so patient with his dribble drives, 606 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: often attacking from out on the wing, sometimes in the post, 607 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: but then he would find a backdoor cutter. It felt 608 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: like every assist was a guy just zooming to the 609 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: back after the Polish team was so eyes on Schengun. 610 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: It was like he was drawn at least a double team, 611 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 2: if not a triple team. Almost every time that he 612 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: was getting into the lane, and then he just had 613 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: the wherewithal to find cutters. Every single time. An incredible 614 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: performance from him, he would be my pick for MVP. 615 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: I know Jannis has an incredible case here as well, 616 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: but Turkey's gonna win the euro Basket, so I think 617 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: he's gonna go to Shannggun. 618 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: Turkey is freaking deep. And even though Alburn cheng Gun 619 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: wasn't scorting at all to start this game. He literally 620 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: didn't score his first bucket until four minutes into the 621 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: second quarter. He was doing all the passing that he 622 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: needed to do, whether they started doubling him. He was 623 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: finding those cutters on the baseline over and over and over, 624 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: so many different guys, Haser Osmond, he was just doing 625 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: that and they're so pretty, and then you know, finally 626 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: he got one to go when he was on the break. 627 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: That was his first bucket, and then he started feeling 628 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: it and so after that in the post the deflection. 629 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: He literally was scoring in every single way. But he 630 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: has no problem not being that guy to start out games, 631 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: while on the other side, our guy Jordan Lloyd couldn't 632 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: do the same thing. They kind of took Jordan Lloyd 633 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: out of the game a little bit. Sea Moose Hawser 634 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: was the guy that they put on him and he 635 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: took him away a little bit, and Jordan Lloyd kind 636 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: of was making passes out. He wasn't moving off the 637 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: ball enough and it literally wasn't happening the same way. 638 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: The passes weren't happening the same way as shn Gun 639 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: was doing it. It happened occasionally when they gave it 640 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: to the corner and the ball started moving, but he 641 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: was literally too comfortable to do that, so he started 642 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: throwing to the outside and he had a bad game. 643 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: It wasn't working because he wasn't working. So that's the 644 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: unfortunate part for them. But again it was sort of 645 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: a close game, but guys like Shane Larkin came through 646 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: again for this team. There's enough of those guys along 647 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: with Jeddi osman Urs on his money to get it done. 648 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: So I understand why you think Turkey can take this thing. 649 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: They literally have a very very strong team. I do 650 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: think the Greeks have some weapons that no one's talking about. 651 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: They're not the others. I'm kind of tired of saying 652 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: that forever. I'm done with that. I know Shack can 653 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: say whatever he wants because it's Shack, but I like 654 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: calling them the supporters, and I think the Greeks have 655 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: some supporters and it'll be a good bat. But I'm 656 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: with you in that Turkey is Yeah, they've looked absolutely fantastic. 657 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: Seven guys in double digits in this game. But when 658 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 2: you're looking ahead to the game against Grease Giannis, I 659 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: mean of Grease advances. If they are able to pull 660 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: off a EuroBasket win, he's obviously going to be the MVP. 661 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: He's been completely unstoppable. He will be the best player 662 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: on the court. Though, I gotta say Shang Goun is 663 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 2: playing the best defense I've ever seen him play. He 664 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 2: was pretty good, yeah, for the Rockets last year, but 665 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: he's a better athlete relatively in EuroBasket than he is 666 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 2: in the NBA, so that really sticks out. He's got 667 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 2: great hands. Three steals in this one, some of them 668 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 2: out on the perimeter, like you're saying, which then unleashed 669 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: the fast break for Turkey. He's ended two of the 670 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 2: games in the wins here for Turkey, one with a steal, 671 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: one with the block in a couple of their victories. 672 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 2: So he's making timely plays as well and getting the balance. 673 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: They're just a big and well oiled and really deep 674 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: and they understand how to play together. 675 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was just guys were comfortable trying 676 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: harder in EuroBasket or in Foba basket. So that's why 677 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: we see shnguon ball. We saw Luka Doncu's best defensive 678 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: game last game. You see it all over. But you're right, 679 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: in part it is athleticism they don't have to play. 680 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: Part of it is just less spacing that's out there. 681 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: But Alburn, Chenggun looks like a different player defensively. He 682 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: definitely did have his best year with Houston last year. 683 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, him versus Yannis on Friday, Yeah, I'm sure 684 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: they're going to switch it up and not necessarily guard 685 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: each other one on one, but it will happen because 686 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: they are playing so freaking well. But Turkey is stacked. 687 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: They've got other guys that are getting after it defensively 688 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: and Shngun. Yeah, it is a debate whether or not 689 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: he has been the most valuable player period in EuroBasket. 690 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: That's fair, fair comment for sure. 691 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess I think honest is probably 692 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: the other guy who you would put up there with 693 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 2: Luca losing to Germany today, I don't know, exactly who 694 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: the player you would pick from the German team. I 695 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 2: guess it would be Franz Wagner. I thought he was 696 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: pretty big for them. I think he's their leading score. 697 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 2: He's kind of taken that role from Dennis Shrewder this 698 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 2: time around for the Germans. I'm not knowledgeable enough to 699 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 2: know if the MVP of euro Basket just goes to 700 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 2: the best player al whichever team wins it. My guess 701 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 2: is that that's probably the case a lot of the time, 702 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: so we'll probably find out who the MVP is once 703 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 2: the tournament's actually over. But Shngun's got a great choice 704 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 2: or a great chance, Jannis has a great chance, and 705 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 2: then Lowry Market and obviously would be the guy from Finland. 706 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 2: They're all going to be on the All tournament team, 707 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 2: no doubt. 708 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt. Yeah, we'll see when Turkey takes 709 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: on Greece. After this fricking great performance where they had 710 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: seven guys in double digits, I've mentioned Shane Larkin. I 711 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: thought he was having his worst game, a guy who 712 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: plays so much, so much for this team. He was struggling. 713 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: They needed some sort of ballhandler in the fourth quarter 714 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: and he was sitting way more than he sat in 715 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: the last couple of games where he didn't play forty 716 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 1: seconds against Survey, that's all. He didn't play. In Sweden 717 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: he didn't play three minutes, and then this one was 718 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: six minutes because he was struggling. But then in that 719 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: fourth quarter he turned it on. They are on this 720 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: connected way of playing, So them against Greece is going 721 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: to be my highlight. Or though, are you looking more 722 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: forward to the other semi final or is this the 723 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: one to watch? 724 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 2: Well? I mean, I do like the idea of Finland 725 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 2: pulling an upset against the German team who has been 726 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: awesome and has been great for the past three international 727 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 2: competitions that we've been watching. You know, the upset potential 728 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 2: is really cool. But I think Greece versus Turkey should 729 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 2: be an awesome game with two guys at the absolute 730 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 2: peak of their powers right now in Jannis and Shnghun 731 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 2: going head to head often matching up, I would think, 732 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 2: if not always matching up, so it should be a 733 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 2: banger for sure. One thing I wanted to ask you, 734 00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 2: Tass I heard this when we were watching Germany versus Slovenia. 735 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,479 Speaker 2: The soundtrack to a euro Basket game is a little 736 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,439 Speaker 2: bit different. You're hearing basically all wedding songs played through 737 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 2: the intercom. They played Country Road by John Denver. They 738 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 2: played like almost the whole verse. They cut it off. Yeah, 739 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: fans just kept on singing like it was Sweet Caroline 740 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 2: at a Boston Red Sox game. Is Country Road by 741 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 2: John Denver a basketball song in any sort of way. 742 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: I could not believe that. When I heard it and 743 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: I heard the fans continue to sing it, I thought, whoa, whoa, 744 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: whoa is this being piped in? Are you telling me 745 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 1: these fans and Latvia no know this song? 746 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 2: They were locked in they sing it for like thirty 747 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 2: seconds straight. 748 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I guess, I guess they'd know 749 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: the song number one, or it's on the maybe the 750 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: words are on the jumbo tron a lot. Yeah. Yeah. 751 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: I always thought, man, that John Denver is full of shit. Man. 752 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: I never thought that you would see that ever, but 753 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: it was. It is. It's almost They were also doing 754 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: close ups of the players like they often do, you know, 755 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: slow mover the players, and they're doing that to take 756 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: me home Country Roads, and it was almost like a 757 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 1: little depressing, you know, just to see these faces. I'm like, whoa, whoa. 758 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: But anyways, it was a great song. Jules chiming in 759 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: here on the stream team, what do you mean Country 760 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: Roads is a banger here in Europe. It's a great song. 761 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: It is a great song. I just didn't know it 762 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: was a banger. 763 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 2: It's just unly hear it in a basketball context. I 764 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: think my buddy Big Nick, you know, every Friday morning 765 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: when we play pick up basketball, the first song he 766 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 2: plays is Country Road by John Denver, And every week 767 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, John Denver, what are we doing? That's that's 768 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 2: that's a baseball song to me. You can tell me 769 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 2: it's a football song, but it deafinitly feels weird inside 770 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 2: to listen to that song. That's an outdoor song. 771 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: It definitely feels more like an outdoor song. Although I 772 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: mean the tracks that they're playing in these games are 773 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: all sort of surprising to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I. 774 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 2: Want to be my girls multiple times. 775 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. They play some Moldies, no doubt, even the Kendrick Lamart. 776 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,479 Speaker 1: I just didn't think that they play it. I thought 777 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: maybe that was band we love Drake here, but nope, 778 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: And anyways, maybe I'm just not cultured enough. I consider 779 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: my my background Greek. But maybe I just don't know 780 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: here because there's a lot of people in here in 781 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: the stream team saying Germans just love this song. Maybe 782 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: I just don't know what Europeans like. 783 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 2: The people love Country Road. It's an undeniable hit. I 784 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 2: just didn't know it had a basketball following. Everybody's we're 785 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 2: gonna get canceled off saying Country Roads is okay song. 786 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's a good, good song. I will 787 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: say one thing that I want canceled is the old 788 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: man phone celebration. I saw from the from It just 789 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: happens with a lot of athletes, and it happened with 790 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: Alan omich Of or Slovenia. Yeah, Slovena, just get rid 791 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: of it. Man's Yeah. 792 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 2: I thought that was funny he did. He did the 793 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 2: phone call and then he slammed it like it was 794 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 2: a receiver, like he like he was getting a call 795 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 2: on the landline in nineteen ninety and he did it 796 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 2: for a tip in on an offensive rebound. I'm okay 797 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,439 Speaker 2: with it when you're calling long distance, but when you're 798 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 2: calling from the doorstep, I don't think it's quite the same. 799 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: Right, that was great stuff, great stuff everybody. Great to 800 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: see these comments. I didn't know that Country Roads is 801 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: big in Germany and the Netherlands and football stadiums, but 802 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: I do know now after seeing Jay zb Times Trip 803 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: say that Country Road is an Octoberfest banger. Actually, I'm 804 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: gonna have an. 805 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 2: Putting on my basketball playlists. That's simple as that. 806 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 1: Done and done. All right. We will be back on 807 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: Friday after Greece Turkey and Finland Slovenia. Can't wait for 808 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: those two games. I'm sure we'll talk about some things 809 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: going on in the NBA world as well. Adam Silver 810 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: had his press conference. We've got the rule about heaves 811 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: at the end of quarters and how they won't be 812 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: given to the player, they'll be get into the team 813 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: so it won't lower the percentage. Can't wait to hear 814 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: your opinion on that tray. On Thursday, Jurassic World Dominion 815 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: will drop. Our Jurassic Pals series continues. This one's dropping 816 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: on Thursday, Jurassic World Dominion. Can't wait to see that. 817 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to watch it again. 818 00:43:58,880 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 2: You're gonna watch it again? 819 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 1: Wow? 820 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 2: Wow wow? 821 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, no sports going on. 822 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: That's the one with bugs. 823 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jurassic World. 824 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 2: We got bugs. 825 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: Also, just so you know, a new episode of No 826 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: Buffs dropped. The season forty nine cast has been announced, 827 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: so you tray along with Skeats, Nora and JD. You 828 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: talked about it as this show is going. In a 829 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, it starts and you can find No 830 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: Buffs on its own feed, find it in the show 831 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: notes wherever you're listening or watching if you haven't jumped 832 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: over to YouTube or Spotify or Apple, but No Buffs 833 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 1: is absolutely everywhere. 834 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. You get to meet eighteen of your 835 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 2: new best friends. It's a great time to get in. 836 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: Great time to get in. So we will see you 837 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: here on Friday. Make sure you watch No Buffs or 838 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 1: our Jurassic World dominion recap. But for now, Clibber Bros. 839 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 2: You heard it here first. Have a great time. Turn 840 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 2: up you guys awesome. Thanks for joining us, and remember 841 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 2: take me home. Cliper Bros. To the Bros, I the Bros, 842 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, Clipper Bros.