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Speaker 3: What's up, guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of

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Speaker 3: Chargers Weekly. We're presented by Microsoft Surface as always, joined

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Speaker 3: by Matt Mundy Smith trying to turn the page on

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Speaker 3: what happened at Lambeau Fields. Sunday, Chargers lose twenty three

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Speaker 3: to twenty to Jordan love in the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 3: They're four and six in a tough hole as the

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Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens come to town Sunday with a little extra

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Speaker 3: rest money. Let's just start at Lambeau. I'm sure it

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Speaker 3: was a cool trip for you to be a part

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Speaker 3: of that history and call a game there, but not

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Speaker 3: the result the Chargers we're hoping for.

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Speaker 1: Don It was a big one, you know, we said

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Speaker 1: it before the game.

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Speaker 2: You just look at the percentages historically, and there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of history there to lean on. You start five

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Speaker 2: and five and you got a thirty point five percent

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Speaker 2: chance at least historical teams have made the playoffs thirty

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Speaker 2: and one half of one percent of the time. You

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Speaker 2: start four and six and that drops to seven percent.

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Speaker 2: So it is a huge swing from five to five

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Speaker 2: to four and six. Of course, those numbers don't take

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Speaker 2: into account what your future schedule looks like or are

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Speaker 2: you playing does the schedule get easier a lot of

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Speaker 2: those games at home? Is there a lot of rest

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Speaker 2: this goes back to what we said last year, right,

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Speaker 2: which is when you lose one like they did against

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Speaker 2: the Raiders to drop the six and six, well, now

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Speaker 2: you got to find one to win. You got to

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Speaker 2: overcome what looked to be a game that you weren't

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Speaker 2: going to win and win it. So, you know, I

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Speaker 2: think we probably would have said the odds favored the

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Speaker 2: Ravens for that Sunday nighter the Mini Buy. It's one

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Speaker 2: of the best teams, if not the best all around

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Speaker 2: team in the AFC. Probably not in the Chargers favor

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Speaker 2: So you were thinking five and six and then New

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Speaker 2: year when they ended up finishing ten and seven. So

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Speaker 2: now they've got to flip that. They just they have

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Speaker 2: to beat the Ravens. This was a terrible loss against

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Speaker 2: a team that on paper they were considerably better than.

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Speaker 2: On the field they were better than, or I shouldn't

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Speaker 2: say that's not true. On the field, they were at

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Speaker 2: least evenly matched, and had they been able to execute,

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Speaker 2: they should have won this game. They were in position

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Speaker 2: to win this game had they been able to execute

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Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball, and they just weren't.

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Speaker 2: Weren't able to Yeah, lack of execution is where I

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Speaker 2: think it starts.

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Speaker 3: Uncharacteristic drops from Keenan Allen. He had two of them,

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Speaker 3: Donald Parhum right at.

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Speaker 4: The beginning of the game, easy drop.

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Speaker 3: Just Justin was awesome in this game, and he was

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Speaker 3: locked in. And I love to see the fire from

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Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, and I hope that we see more of

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Speaker 3: that moving forward. He knew how important that game was

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Speaker 3: in money, there were moments where we haven't seen Justin

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Speaker 3: run like he ran in that game this season. No, No,

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Speaker 3: he found the opportunities. He knew what was required to

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Speaker 3: you know, we don't want to belabor the point that

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Speaker 3: Quinton Johnson drop was a game changer at least was

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Speaker 3: going to tie the game. He could have taken that

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Speaker 3: a variety of mistakes and then defensively, you know, that

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Speaker 3: that last Jordan Love drive the third and twenty was

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Speaker 3: the was the play that sticks out. The next play

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Speaker 3: to I think it was to Wick where where Michael

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Speaker 3: Davis didn't wrap up. It was kind of reminiscent of

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Speaker 3: the Tony Pollard play about a month ago against the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: And then obviously the miscommunication on the Dobbs go ahead

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Speaker 3: and game winning touchdown. So a lot of mistakes in

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Speaker 3: this game, and you could point to several different reasons

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Speaker 1: A lot.

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Speaker 2: A lot to unpack there, Chris, So we'll start with

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Speaker 2: the Keenan drops, right, So one's a touchdown, one is

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Speaker 2: That the thing about those two drops. Keenan came back

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Speaker 2: up with some huge third down catches, came up with

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Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, that's what Keenan does because he's an

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Speaker 2: Herbert's playing his ass off and we've got to go

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Speaker 2: win this game for him for as hard as he's playing.

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Speaker 2: And Keenan did that, and he gave them a you

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Speaker 2: know what, was it a twenty four to seventeen lead

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Speaker 2: and you know, unfortunately were twenty to sixteen lead, and

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Speaker 1: So that's that's one I felt like.

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Speaker 2: And even with the palm catch, Parm had a couple

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Speaker 2: he overcame it. Quintin did not. Quinn had a terrible game.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any two ways about it. And

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Speaker 2: people point to that last drop. He did not have

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Speaker 2: a good game overall, and something has ought to change there,

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Speaker 1: He's a rookie.

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Speaker 2: It's tough when you've got this much talent on a

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Speaker 2: longer what Brandon Staley was trying to preach earlier about patients,

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Speaker 2: and Keenan Allen, and you know, it's no big deal.

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Speaker 1: We believe in him long term. It's not a one

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Speaker 2: It is this year, you know, with all the injuries,

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Speaker 2: with Josh Palmer down, with Mike Williams down, there is

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Speaker 2: no time for that. Zay Flowers leads the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 2: Those two guys were picked right after him, and they

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Speaker 2: So that's and I'm not saying that to point out

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Speaker 2: that it was a mistake of a pick. I'm saying

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Speaker 2: it because I can only imagine what the confidence is

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Speaker 2: it's going to be incredibly negative. So team's got a

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Speaker 2: coaching him to hold his hands like this, not like

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Speaker 2: that's that muscle memory that we were talking about.

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Speaker 1: That's how he.

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Speaker 2: Played at TCU, and so that repeatedly showed up in

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Speaker 2: There was a pass downfield earlier. And it's been a

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Speaker 2: weird thing with him this season. He doesn't fight through

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Speaker 2: he's got just one hand extended, and it doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to catch the ball with one hand.

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Speaker 2: You've got to fight through contact. He's not separating, he's

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Speaker 2: out a way to feed him positivity coaching so he

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Speaker 1: Or I'm just afraid long term.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you come through a season where you're

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Speaker 2: on pace to have one of the absolute worst worst

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll stop there and let you kind of

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Speaker 1: I don't care.

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Speaker 2: You can say, oh, well, it's not just one play. Well,

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Speaker 2: in this case, it was because a field goal ties

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Speaker 2: it and sends it to overtime, and that thing was

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Speaker 2: instead it was something that unfortunately we've seen a lot of.

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Speaker 2: And again I say it because I just want to

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Speaker 2: because it's such a mental hurdle right now for him

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for the sake of his confidence and really his development,

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Speaker 3: They don't really have a choice. They have to go

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Speaker 3: back to him because you know, Justin's down a lot

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Speaker 3: Justin is going to find you. He found Quinton. Quintin

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Speaker 3: didn't take advantage of the opportunity at the end, but

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Speaker 3: that's okay. If he can bounce back and help this

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Speaker 3: that can't happen either, you know.

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Speaker 1: And that's a weird one.

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Speaker 2: Chris, just to I just want to jump in there

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Speaker 2: because you know, Shannon did a great job where she

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Speaker 2: mentioned to us that they had wheeled out this giant

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Speaker 2: She's like, you know, there must be something going on

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Speaker 2: with the field because I haven't seen this card out

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Speaker 2: it looks like some players are dealing with their cleats. Well,

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Speaker 2: Austin slipped on that play led to a fumble, and

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Speaker 2: then on the second and ten to play, prior to

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Speaker 2: Quinton's drop, he slips on a play that certainly would

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Speaker 1: And it gets you wonder like, hey, what are we doing.

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Speaker 2: You've got the card out, you know what the footing is,

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Speaker 2: You've already slipped once it led to a fumble. Why

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Speaker 2: has this not been remedied? Why have the cleats not

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Speaker 2: been swapped out? And now there's a second slip in

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Speaker 2: there that leads to another negative play and it's third

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know they talked about it on the broadcast too,

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Speaker 3: I believe, pretty early in the game about the field conditions.

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Speaker 3: And just know that's something that I think the Chargers

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Speaker 3: we go to the defense money real.

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Speaker 2: Quick though, Chris, before we move on, sorry, before we

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Speaker 1: You know, he's dealing with that corn.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just interested to see what the snapcout's going

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Speaker 3: I think I think you tried to you got to

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Speaker 3: Have boiled over, I think on a lot of levels

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Speaker 3: the passing defense. Jordan Love three hundred and twenty two yards.

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Speaker 4: And then the miscommunication.

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Speaker 3: being lined up properly, and you know, as we move

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Speaker 3: he's throwing the football. You can't have those mental errors

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Speaker 1: No doubt, before we push it forward.

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Speaker 2: I do just think it's fair to kind of break

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Speaker 2: these plays need to be executed correctly. That's going to

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's going after Michael Davis, if

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Speaker 2: So maybe that's the guy he's going to replace with

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Speaker 2: you know, snap count went way down. The one thing

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Speaker 2: the big concern, Chris is how do you fix that

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Speaker 1: You know? How?

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Speaker 2: How do you fix that when you're four and six

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna be in December next week. Man,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, there were several plays in that game.

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Speaker 2: I bring it up not to say what do we do?

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Speaker 2: You have competition at the linebacker level. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: So but money, this is the question for me, how

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Speaker 4: No confusion as to what the scheme is and how you.

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Speaker 3: So you know, you can replace Michael Davis or you know,

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's hard, and I get you know,

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Speaker 3: You know what, this is zero not an excuse by

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Speaker 2: No doubt to the question about you know, is there time?

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Speaker 2: has been so poor is start blitzing. Start blitzing more.

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Speaker 2: Start sending five and six guys over and over and

436
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Speaker 2: over again, so your corners and your coverage players don't

437
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Speaker 2: have to cover as long. And I think it's clear

438
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Speaker 2: that rules are being broken, whatever rules they're supposed to

439
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: be following in quarters coverage and this matchup zone, it's

440
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Speaker 2: just not happening. Too many guys are being passed off

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Speaker 2: to nobody. There's too many Sawce spots, and you know what, Chris,

442
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Speaker 2: So much of this I think as a result of

443
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Speaker 2: what we see in football, and that is you'll find

444
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Speaker 2: something that works, teams will all jump on it, and

445
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Speaker 2: then there's a solution, and that's vic Fangio had this

446
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Speaker 2: as the Patrick Mahomes beater when he was in Denver, right,

447
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Speaker 2: and that's how this defense came into fashion and everybody

448
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Speaker 2: started playing it. Well, now you'll see the offenses know

449
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Speaker 2: how to beat it. They've got plays to beat it. Though,

450
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Speaker 2: Popper did a great job in that article after the

451
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Speaker 2: Lions game that said Ben Johnson knew exactly what was

452
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Speaker 2: coming and exactly how to beat it. He was a

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Speaker 2: step ahead the whole time. And I think we're seeing

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Speaker 2: that more and more with offenses because so many teams

455
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Speaker 2: started using this style of defense, and they've got more

456
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Speaker 2: and more more teams are playing it, so now they've

457
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Speaker 2: got reps in practice against it, and now they're more

458
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Speaker 2: comfortable beating it. So now you have to adjust to

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Speaker 2: the adjustment.

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Speaker 3: Well, money, the blitz question is a perfect segue into

461
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Speaker 3: this because we're going to have life without Joey Bosa

462
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Speaker 3: maybe for the rest of the season now, So knowing

463
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Speaker 3: that Joey's gonna be out, Chris Rumps, you're thin at edge,

464
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Speaker 3: do you blitz more just because you don't have Joey?

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Speaker 4: You can't maybe tough to get home anyway?

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Speaker 1: For I would say yes.

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Speaker 2: But the blitzes that they ran against Green Bay, for

468
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Speaker 2: whatever reason, Green Bay just knew they were coming. Jordan

469
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Speaker 2: Love was and you know he, Jordan Love was hard

470
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Speaker 2: counting a lot, and it just seemed like Chargers kept

471
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Speaker 2: biting on the hardcot and they kept showing their hand

472
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Speaker 2: over and over again, so he knew when the blitz

473
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Speaker 2: was coming. You know, Blitzing isn't just sending one more

474
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Speaker 2: than they have to block, or overloading aside and trying

475
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Speaker 2: to find that advantage. It's also about disguising and them

476
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Speaker 2: not knowing that you're blitzing or not knowing where the

477
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Speaker 2: blitz is coming from. So I do think you have

478
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Speaker 2: to be a team that's good at that. You know,

479
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Speaker 2: you're not just a team that blitzes, but your team

480
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Speaker 2: that's good at blitzing where you know when you're like

481
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Speaker 2: that play we talked about against Detroit on the huge

482
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Speaker 2: Gainer to Leif Raymond, Like you can't blitz from you

483
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Speaker 2: can't blitz John Taylor from that spot, Like that's not

484
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Speaker 2: going to be an effective blitz. So it's not like

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean like they I think they

486
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Speaker 2: need to get better at that as well, if that's

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Speaker 2: what they're gonna do. I have full faith in Tuley

488
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Speaker 2: that that he can win, you know that he'll win

489
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Speaker 2: one on one and that they can't double both he

490
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Speaker 2: and Khalil Max. So between those two, I think they've

491
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Speaker 2: both been rushing the platte passer well enough. I think

492
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Speaker 2: they're you know the thing with Baltimore, right, it's the

493
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Speaker 2: run game, and this is this is a team that

494
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Speaker 2: runs the hell out of the ball. So do you

495
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Speaker 2: feel good about run blitzing? You know, or you're gonna

496
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Speaker 2: be running up field and here goes Gus Edwards right

497
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Speaker 2: by you, you know, or here comes Lamar Jackson using

498
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Speaker 2: his feet just to to skate right by, and he's

499
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Speaker 2: off to the races. So that's probably what you got

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Speaker 2: to be a little careful of. This is a I

501
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Speaker 2: think it's you know, probably a perfect opportunity to segue

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Speaker 2: into it.

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Speaker 1: But this is a tough matchup. This is a really

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Speaker 1: really tough matchup.

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Speaker 2: On Sunday, and and I think considering the injuries and

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Speaker 2: the w they've been playing as of late, it would

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Speaker 2: be a I think it would be a big It's

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Speaker 2: a huge opportunity for the Chargers to overcome what I

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Speaker 2: think is a mountain that has been placed in front

510
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Speaker 2: of them that they have to climb to try to

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Speaker 2: get this victory.

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Speaker 3: The Baltimore Ravens coming to town eight and three. Lamar

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Speaker 3: Jackson is playing great football. His threat as a passer

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Speaker 3: now has increased from previous years. We know that he's

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Speaker 3: lethal running the football, and the Ravens in general, as

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Speaker 3: you alluded to, they run the ball as good as

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Speaker 3: any in the league. I'm just gonna rattle off some

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Speaker 3: of these scores that you know. They beat the Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 3: who scored forty one points a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: thirty eight to six.

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Speaker 4: They beat the Seahawks thirty seven to three.

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Speaker 3: They beat the Bengals by two touchdowns last Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: They beat the Browns twenty eight to three earlier in

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Speaker 3: the year.

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Speaker 1: So you know, this.

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Speaker 4: Offense is rolling.

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Speaker 3: The defense is solid under McDonald. And again it's a

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Speaker 3: it's a freaking tall order. It's a tall order. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: if you do get it and you're five and six,

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Speaker 3: you talk about momentum, I mean, this is this is

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Speaker 3: the season, no question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if they lose this one, they have to went out.

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Speaker 2: I think when you look at what's in front of them,

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Speaker 2: and then you know you got your four division winners,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, I'm not looking at the standings

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Speaker 2: right now. I suppose I could pull it up, but

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Speaker 2: you know, I think they're in what thirteenth place as

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Speaker 2: it stands right now, yeah, thirteenth place, So you've got

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Speaker 2: going to number seven. You know, teams with four losses,

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Speaker 2: they're two up on you. You lose this one and they win,

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Speaker 2: and they're three up on you in the lost column,

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Speaker 2: and it feels like that would almost be in surmountable.

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Speaker 2: So right now you're division leaders, Ravens, Chiefs, Jags, Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: So you know those are all seven and three teams

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Speaker 2: three games up in the lost column. Now you get

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Speaker 2: the Browns who are three games up on you in

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Speaker 2: the lost column. The Texans and the Steelers and the

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Speaker 2: Bills and the Colts and the Broncos and the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: and you know those are all teams ahead of you.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot you cannot and they look like they're

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Speaker 2: at least half of those are trending towards ten and seven.

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Speaker 2: So that's going to be the number, I think.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: The good news is they have a lot of AFC

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Speaker 2: games left. They've kind of worked through their NFC portion

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Speaker 2: of the schedule. The conference record is a tiebreaker when

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Speaker 2: it's more than a when it's a three way tie,

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Speaker 2: or more so, it's an opportunity. But they have to

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Speaker 2: win this game. They have to and they're taking on

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Speaker 2: the number two scoring defense, the number three overall defense,

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Speaker 2: and the number one pass defense. And we know the

586
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Speaker 2: Chargers have struggled to run the ball. They passed the ball.

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Speaker 2: It's what they do well. Herbert's been exceptional these last

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks. The Ravens offense, number four scoring offense,

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Speaker 2: number one rushing offense. So the you know, after the

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Speaker 2: Packer game, when when coach Staley was frustrated at the

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Speaker 2: line of questioning and the defense, he said, you know,

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Speaker 2: we really stopped the run in this game. That was

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Speaker 2: a positive. Well, they didn't really want to run the ball.

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Speaker 2: They you know, they lost their two running backs. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they lost Aaron Jones for the game, they lost Wilson

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Speaker 2: for the game. And they're like, all right, well we

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Speaker 2: still got our throwing it around. And they were throwing

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Speaker 2: it around effectively, you know, and you look at the

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Speaker 2: last time they faced a team that was really balanced.

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Speaker 2: Now they do get a bit of an advantage without

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Speaker 2: Mark Andrews. That is clearly Lamar Jackson's safety velve his

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Speaker 2: favorite target. So in the passing game, there's maybe you

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Speaker 2: get a little bit of a break there. But let's

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Speaker 2: see if in fact, you know what coach was talking

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Speaker 2: about that. You know, our rush defense did really really well. Okay,

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Speaker 2: well let's see you do it against this team. We're

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Speaker 2: talking about taking away the right hand. You know, the

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Speaker 2: right hand of the Ravens is running the ball. So

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Speaker 2: can you take that away? It's very hard, you know.

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Speaker 2: And when you go through their losses, the one thing

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Speaker 2: you recognize is teams created turnovers. You know, that's in

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Speaker 2: their three losses. I mean, I'll just rattle them off

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Speaker 2: right now. Pittsburgh wins seventeen to ten. Four sacks, six

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Speaker 2: tackles for loss, one interception, one safety, four forced fumbles

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Speaker 2: they recover too. That's how they win that game. Think

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Speaker 2: about all that that went on with that defense. Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: wins in ot twenty two to nineteen. Four sacks, six

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Speaker 2: tackles for loss, four forced fumbles, two of them recovered.

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Speaker 2: So there's that win. Cleveland three sacks, four tackles for loss,

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Speaker 2: two interceptions, one of them a pick six. That's like,

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Speaker 2: your defense is going to have to deliver, you know,

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Speaker 2: points if you're going to win this game against this team.

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Speaker 2: They're really good. I mean they've scored three hundred and

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Speaker 2: four points. You know, you're talking about sixty five more points,

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Speaker 2: fifty five more points than the Chargers this year. Now,

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Speaker 2: they played an extra game, but they they score a lot,

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Speaker 2: and their defense just so happens to be again the

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Speaker 2: number one scoring defense or the number two scoring defense,

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Speaker 2: the number three overall defense. So getting into a shootout

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Speaker 2: with them is going to be kind of hard. Now,

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Speaker 2: the Browns did it right last week and one, but

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Speaker 2: they won on a pick six. So that's what this defense.

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Speaker 2: That's the level I think that we're not that. I

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Speaker 2: think I think this we know that that's the level

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Speaker 2: of play that this defense is going to have to

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Speaker 2: put in if they're going to pull off this.

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Speaker 3: Upset money, if this team is going to have any

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Speaker 3: chance moving forward to it. This is about these close losses.

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Speaker 3: We got to call for what it is. You got

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Speaker 3: five of them by three points or less. It seems

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Speaker 3: like going back to last year, they're having a hard

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Speaker 3: time figuring out how.

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Speaker 4: To close football games. And you know.

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Speaker 3: The complimentary football, especially late in games, has not been there.

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Speaker 3: You know, they the performance by Justin on Sunday, it's

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Speaker 3: a darn shame they lost that game because I think

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Speaker 3: he played as good as he could have played. I

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Speaker 3: think he had the best PFF grade. Take that for

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Speaker 3: what it's worth, but I think.

650
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: He was incredible of the season, right, Yeah, Chris, he

651
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: was incredible, like the And if there's one thing I

652
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: hope comes out of that loss that could alter the

653
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,959
Speaker 2: fortunes of this team moving forward, it's how he ran

654
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: the ball. Yeah, I mean he trucking, dudes. You know

655
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: that that first down he picked up on third down

656
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: on that third and eleven, he got hit at the

657
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: eighth and he carried two guys with him over the

658
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: line to gain And that's something that we just have

659
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: not seen from him. I mean, he wanted that win.

660
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: He did everything he possibly could to will this team

661
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: to When he talked about it a little bit earlier,

662
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: the emotion there was that delay a game. I have

663
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: not seen him react like that on a field. I

664
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: mean he threw that football that will claps feet and

665
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: started barking at him and more of that police, more

666
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: of that, you know, and that cause that's what it's

667
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: gonna take. It's if this team is going to go

668
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: six and one, it's going to be because of Justin Herbert.

669
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,239
Speaker 2: Let's just be let's call it for what it is.

670
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: He's so good, he's in the conversation. Is one of

671
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: the best players in the league. And that's my dog

672
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: is upset about something, and that's what it's going to take, right,

673
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: That's that's what it's going to take.

674
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 4: He's just echoing, he's echoing your your thoughts on justin.

675
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, yeah, no idea, why I've I've got to

676
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: deal with that, But I do, I will.

677
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: I wonder if that's a turning point. I just I

678
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: just I love to see the fire man. I loved it,

679
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: and I feel like it put his teammates on notice too, like,

680
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: hey man, I'm carrying this thing.

681
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: I'm carrying this thing. Offense and defense, come on, let's

682
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: go get on my level.

683
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: And exactly.

684
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: That's that's what was so disappointing about the end of

685
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: that game, because the touchdown to Keenan that should have

686
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: been it. That should have been it, and the defense

687
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: should have fed off of that and gotten Jordan Love

688
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: off the field. They get on the bus and they

689
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: come back and it's a it's a new season.

690
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 4: So they have this just nasty taste in their mouth.

691
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: From losing losing games to a team that was three

692
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: and six, and then the Tennessee Titans earlier in the year.

693
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: They're gonna look back on those two games specifically, is like,

694
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 3: how do we lose those games?

695
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 4: How do we lose those games?

696
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: So you know, like you said, if you beat the

697
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 3: multiple Ravens, maybe a game you weren't supposed to win

698
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 3: gets you to five and six, you know, at least

699
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: we could talk and it haves some playoff dreams for

700
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: another week.

701
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: But no doubt, go ahead, Yeah, no doubt. I think

702
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: you know it lays out well in front of them

703
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: as well. So you beat the Ravens and now you know,

704
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what the feutre. They've already gone to

705
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: a different quarterback in New England. I know the Broncos

706
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: have been playing a lot better. But you get them

707
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: at home, you know, and then you get a trip

708
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 2: to to Las Vegas. Like, but the thing is, Chris,

709
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: and we keep saying this, Oh it lays out look

710
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: at this stretch right here, and I think you put

711
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: it perfectly.

712
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: They got to figure out how to win. They know

713
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: how to lose.

714
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: We know that they because you're not one in five

715
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: in one score games without knowing how to lose, because

716
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: you had to lead and so many of those, or

717
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: you're tied in so many of those, so you have

718
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: the ball last in so many of those, and they

719
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: just can't get over the hump.

720
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: So I think of all the things that.

721
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: They've got to figure out here in short order, knowing

722
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: how to win, how to execute when you absolutely have

723
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: to the gotta have it moments, Being able to deliver

724
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 2: in those moments on both sides of the ball and

725
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: special teams is what will ultimately decide the fate of

726
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: this team and whether or not a squad that so

727
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: many people thought was one of the best in the

728
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 2: AFC is And I hate the whole revisionist history because

729
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: it I just I know they're injured, everybody's injured, but

730
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: the well, maybe this team isn't as good as we thought. No,

731
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: they're not as good as you thought because they're four

732
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: and six because they continually come up short. They are

733
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: that good. This roster is that good. You know, teams

734
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: would love to have a Rashaun Slater at left tackle

735
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: and Austin Eckler in the backfield and Keenan Allen and

736
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert and like teams would love if we just

737
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: go through, if I'm going through the standings, all right.

738
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: Let me show you Mac Jones has been benched. The

739
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: Titans are on too Will Levis. The New York Jets

740
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 2: just made Zach Wilson their third string quarterback. The Las

741
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders are on Aidan O'Connell. The Bengals have not

742
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: had a Joe Burrow healthy but for two games this year.

743
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: The Denver Broncos, you know, had Russell Wilson, who had

744
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: the worst season of his career last year, started out sluggishly.

745
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: He's playing much better now because he's just not turning

746
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: the football over. The Colts are in the nine spot.

747
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson was their rookie. They're on a backup quarterback.

748
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: You know.

749
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills at eight have had and just ridiculously

750
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: bad showing from Josh Allen when it comes to turnovers

751
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 2: this season. Like it's quarterback play that's leading these teams

752
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: to be where they are. Baltimore Ravens, Lamar Jackson, Chiefs, Mahomes, Jaguars, Lawrence, Dolphins, TUA.

753
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: You know, the Browns is the one outlier there because

754
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 2: their defense is the best in football. So like that's

755
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: good what I'm getting at is the Chargers have one

756
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 2: of the best quarterbacks in football. There is no reason

757
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: they don't they one of these things is not like

758
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: the unner. One of these things doesn't belong like the

759
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: Chargers don't belong at thirteen. When Justin Herbert is playing

760
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: at the level that he's playing at, That's that's what's incongruous.

761
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: That's the anomaly. Why is it that one of the

762
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: best quarterbacks in the NFL this season, not just by

763
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 2: reputation but by the way he is playing this season,

764
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: is sitting down in the thirteen spot. What is his

765
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: team doing to let him down? Because it's not that

766
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 2: way in any other if I go through if I

767
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: go through the NFC, it's the same way. You know,

768
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: if you look at the best quarterbacks, they're at the top.

769
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: It's Jalen Hurts, it's Jared Goff, it's Rock Party, it's

770
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, it's Kirk Cousins, you know, and then it

771
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: just kind of falls apart from there and you get

772
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: to the five hundred teams. But the top are the

773
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: best quarterbacks Hurts, GoF Purty, Dak Okay, Yeah, quarterbacks winning

774
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: this league. And somehow the Chargers have not been able

775
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 2: to put together a team that can win with one

776
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: of the best quarterbacks who is playing some of the

777
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: best football in the NFL.

778
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't. It's just it's not it's not connecting.

779
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: But it's an automatic, built in advantage. When you have

780
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 3: Herbert on thefield, You're gonna be in every game. You're

781
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: gonna be in a one small game every game, every game,

782
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: and you got to figure out a way to win.

783
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: And that's what has plagued them obviously this year is

784
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: they cannot get over the hump and figure out how

785
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: to win because they've been in every game. They've been

786
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: in every single game, even the Kansas City game where

787
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 3: the defense buckle down on the second half. Now I'm

788
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: looking at the kind of the style of quarterbacks that

789
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 3: they've played this year, you know, with Lamar Jackson coming

790
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: to town, and you know, the threats to run really

791
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: you know, Mahomes kind of scrambles and gets yardage. I

792
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: think he had like a twenty three yard rush against

793
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: the Chargers.

794
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 4: Early this year.

795
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: Dak kind of used his legs to beat the Charges

796
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 3: a little bit. He had seven for forty in a touchdown.

797
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: That's the thing about Lamar, because they haven't had a

798
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: ton of guys that are as mobile as what Lamar

799
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: can do. And you know him as a passer now,

800
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: and the weapons that he has on the outside. I

801
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 3: know Andrews is out, but you know, you got Odell.

802
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 3: We talked about Zay Flowers. He's got some weapons on

803
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: the outside. And if a play breaks down, that's what

804
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: I think the Chargers defense has to worry about, is

805
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: who's gonna have eyes on Lamar? And is Lamar going

806
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: to make the right decision if they spy him? And

807
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 3: you know, there's not a guy streaking down the field.

808
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 3: So just that added layer for the defense is going

809
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 3: to be a challenge this Sunday.

810
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the one thing he's taken twenty seven sacks,

811
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: so you're talking about, you know, and that's just part

812
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: of him holding the ball, trying to because he runs

813
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 2: so much, so those opportunity and that's where a lot

814
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: of those force fumbles come into play. So that's so

815
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: you have to take advantage of. You know, if there's

816
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: indecisiveness there, then you've got you know, in two of

817
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: those three losses he passed below sixty percent. He was

818
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 2: like fifty seven and one and fifty six in the

819
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: other so you can there's things you can do. We know,

820
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: there's kind of there's sort of Lamar rules, you know,

821
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: force him to pass outside the numbers, and that was

822
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: something that that was the problem with it is like

823
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: that was the book on Jordan Love is like he

824
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: doesn't see the middle of the field. He so you know,

825
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: he's he just kind of gets a little bit confused

826
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: in there. So it's like, let's but they weren't able

827
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 2: to do that, you know, and it's like the guy

828
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: throws for three hundred and twenty two yards, like you

829
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: know what the rules are going in You know that

830
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: Jared Goff wants to throw to Monra over and over

831
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: and over again and forced Josh Reynolds and Jamison Williams

832
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: to beat you and instead it's aman Ra for one

833
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty. You know that Patrick Mahwens has got nobody,

834
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: no trust. They have more drops than any other wide

835
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: receiver corp in the league. It's only Travis Kelcey and

836
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: the guy goes for one hundred and fifty in the

837
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: first half. It's you know, Dak Prescott. He wants to

838
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: throw the ball to Ceedee Lamb. He does not trust

839
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 2: Michael Gallup. He doesn't you know, ceedee lamb one hundred

840
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: and twenty yards in a touchdown. It's you know, Tua

841
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: wants to get the ball out to Tyreek Hill, Tyreek

842
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 2: Hill two hundred and fifteen yards. So it's like they

843
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: have got to you know, take away the number one,

844
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: you know, and and force them to beat you with

845
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: the number two and the number three.

846
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: Again.

847
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: Packers wanted to run the ball, you know, that's what

848
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: they want to do. Run the ball, have some explosives

849
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: off of play action, and they lost two of their

850
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: three running backs and they were forced to throw the

851
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: ball all over the yard.

852
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: And it was easy. And so that's, you know, that's

853
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: what's on.

854
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: That's what's on, you know, the menu for for coach

855
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: Staley and his staff figure out how to force Lamar

856
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: to throw the ball outside the numbers because he wants

857
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: to use the middle of the field and make sure

858
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: he doesn't beat you with his legs. And if you

859
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: can do that, there's interceptions, there's bad plays out there

860
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: that that he'll make. There's forced fumbles to be had.

861
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: But you have to take away what they want to do.

862
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: If you don't, they're just going to keep doing it

863
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: and it's easy because it's what they do best.

864
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 3: The Chargers played the Ravens a couple of years ago

865
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 3: in Baltimore. I think it was coach Staley's first year,

866
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: and you know, they had a great start to the

867
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 3: year and that East Coast trip they kind of ran

868
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: into a buzzsall with Baltimore funny money. I was with

869
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: Jaliladai yesterday. We were doing our Max Preps High School

870
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 3: show and we were talking about the playoff game. Remember

871
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 3: where Gus had no linebackers and it was just all

872
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 3: dbs against LeVar. It just I think back just to

873
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: the evolution of him as a quarterback and what they

874
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: were well accomplish that day versus like, you know what

875
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: he's become, and it's just it's such a tall order

876
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: to try to contain a guy like that who seemingly

877
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: can make something happen every single play.

878
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not easy, and you know Gus did.

879
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: Adrian Phillips was the biggest player behind the defensive line

880
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: that he had to go on that day. But you

881
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: know the other thing that on that day that I'll

882
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 2: remember is that Marty morning, weg for whatever reason, played

883
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 2: right into their hands. Like he just assumed, well, they're

884
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: going to do everything they can to take away the run,

885
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: so I'm going to throw it all over the place.

886
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 2: And it was just a disaster. And it was like, dude,

887
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: just run it. I mean, you just did it three

888
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: weeks ago at Dignity Health. Ran it down their throats

889
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: with Gus Edwards and Lamar Jackson, and they came out

890
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: throwing it all over. So sometimes coaches cannot think themselves.

891
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: But no doubt Gus had a brilliant I you know,

892
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: just keep everything in front of you.

893
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: Force that.

894
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: And I think that's the one thing with the Ravens

895
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: that you want to do right is force them to

896
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: have long sustain drives because they make mistakes. Lamar makes mistakes,

897
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: So that's what you want to do. Don't give them

898
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: easy ones. You know, when you give Jordan Love a

899
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: five place seventy five yard drive that he was facing

900
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 2: a third and twenty on from his own five yard

901
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: line and it only takes them five plays to score

902
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: a touchdown, Yeah, you're not doing your job. You're not

903
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: giving ample opportunity for him to make a mistake and

904
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: throw a bad pick or get a turnover or something like.

905
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: That, Monny, anything else from this matchup before we wrap

906
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 3: it up and get people going for the Thanksgiving holiday.

907
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 3: I just look at some of these pass catchers with

908
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: no Mark Andrews, you know, Odell Say, Flowers, Nelson Aguilar.

909
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if Isaiah likely will get some more

910
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 3: targets his way with Andrews being out, and obviously with

911
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 3: Gus Edwards in the emergence of this guy Keaton Mitchell,

912
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: stopping the one is going to be paramount.

913
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: That's that's where it'll art. And again, I think, just

914
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: to sort of reiterate what I'm interested in, I'm interested

915
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: in seeing, if you know, how what what the what

916
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: the snap count looks like at receiver. I think it's

917
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: gonna I think that's gonna tell quite the tale. You know,

918
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 2: are are we scrambling?

919
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: You know?

920
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 2: Does does the coaching staff look at it as hey,

921
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: we're and win now, We've got no time to be

922
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: developing right now. But I think there's a flip side

923
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: of that where we talked about clearly there may be

924
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: players on the bet that you've seen enough through ten

925
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: games from player X. Let's give player why an opportunity

926
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: because if not, it might be too late. We can't

927
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: keep watching, we can't know what the ending is to

928
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: the movie and expect it to be different because we

929
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 2: don't like it, because we want a half a ending,

930
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: and we keep getting the sad ending or the horrific ending,

931
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: and it's like, you know what the ending of that

932
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: movie is. So let's see if we put a different

933
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: actor in there, maybe something changes. Which is interesting because

934
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: it's it's two sides of the same knife, right, it's okay, Well,

935
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: I just said, maybe you don't have time for for

936
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: young and inexperienced, you know, to develop, And the flip

937
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 2: side of that is okay, maybe the you know, young

938
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 2: and athletic is the better option than the supposed steady

939
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: hand of a veteran that has struggled mightily so far

940
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 2: this season. So there's some there's some positions that you

941
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: should put your eyes on that I think will tell

942
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: you how this team is approaching the remainder of this season.

943
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: In a critical game against the best opponent that they

944
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: will have seen this season.

945
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 4: Oh, Kyle van Noy return game, huh.

946
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: Ugh, somehow I just feel like that doesn't end well,

947
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: you know it just but but you know, I mean,

948
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: Kyle's not and I'm a huge Kyle van Noy fan.

949
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: He's so great when he was with us and just

950
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: could not have been better with the media, nicer to

951
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: everybody that came across you know his path, So I

952
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: wish him nothing but success. I really enjoyed having Kyle

953
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: van Noy around on the Chargers. Let's just hope he

954
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: doesn't have success this week.

955
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 3: We'll see money see if the Chargers can give us

956
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: something to talk about next week in a positive way

957
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: as they headed New England. But it's a tall task,

958
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: but it'll go a long way towards saving this season

959
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: if they can get a win against the Ravens.

960
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 4: Happy Thanksgiving, brother, appreciate you as always, man.

961
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Speaker 1: You too.

962
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving to all the folks listening and watching. We

963
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 2: certainly appreciate you. Remember this Thanksgiving butter and salt, whatever

964
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: you think you're supposed to put on it, double it

965
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: and then double it again, and that's what Thanksgiving is

966
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: all about.

967
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 4: Then triple it exactly there you go, exactly right, Chris.

968
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 3: We appreciate you guys. Thank you for listening and watching

969
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 3: every week.

970
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Speaker 4: For money, I'm Chris. He's been charged a week