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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Well, welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Monday edition of Play and Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot to talk about. It is quite

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Speaker 2: a day on the immigration front. The US Senate, I.

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Speaker 1: Guess the only Senate be good you're talking.

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Speaker 2: About, releases a draft of a one hundred and eighteen

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Speaker 2: billion dollar bill. What is the breakdown and what is

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Speaker 2: beyond just the dollars and cents? What are some of

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Speaker 2: the provisions that are in this bipartisan Senate. It's not

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Speaker 2: just a border bill. It's in Israel and Ukraine and

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Speaker 2: US Mexico border bill.

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Speaker 1: And if you're wondering, what are those things have in common?

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Speaker 2: Yes, very important question and we will address that in

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Plus, the US kills an estimated thirty

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Speaker 2: four Iran backed militants in Iraq after that strike on

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Speaker 2: the US, the drone strike on the US base in Jordan.

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Speaker 2: New York City is handing out fifty three million dollars

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Speaker 2: in prepaid credit cards to quote migrant families, which is

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Speaker 2: a remarkable way to try to bring down a legal

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Speaker 2: immigration truly literally giving out free money to people just

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Speaker 2: giving out money, Why not give them prepaid credit cards?

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Speaker 2: Abbot Greg Abbott of Texas going to tour the border

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Speaker 2: with fourteen other governors. And we've got more here to

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Speaker 2: dive into as well. But Clay, I think the biggest

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Speaker 2: thing we're looking at today, biggest thing right now, the

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Speaker 2: breakdown of this border bill. A lot of people they

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Speaker 2: could have there's so much here they could have shown

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Speaker 2: us some of this or it's almost three hundred pages.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a roughly three hundred page bill. They

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Speaker 2: could have released three hundred and seventy pages. I think

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Speaker 2: they could have released this in advance so that people

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Speaker 2: would be able to see. No, what they did was

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Speaker 2: tell us things aren't in it, that are They try

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Speaker 2: to prepare the battlefield in advance with propaganda to convince

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Speaker 2: people things are true that are not. The part of

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Speaker 2: this that I think is the hardest for a lot

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Speaker 2: of people, well actually know there's a lot of parts

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Speaker 2: But at least the name is paying attention. Sixty billion

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Speaker 2: dollars for Ukraine. Remember I said in February of twenty

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Speaker 2: dollars on Ukraine. I think that's very much where we're

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Speaker 2: going to end up. Sixty billion for Ukraine, fourteen billion

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Speaker 2: for Israel, and twenty billion for border security. Let's start

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Speaker 2: with this one, Clay, because I think the most obvious

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Speaker 2: question is why is it that more money is being

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is the ultimate screw you to

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Speaker 3: anybody who belave that we should be focused.

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Speaker 1: On America right now.

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Speaker 3: And I think you can break all these down individually,

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Speaker 3: and you should have votes on them all individually. For instance,

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Speaker 3: it seems that there is a consensus right now that

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Speaker 3: Israel does deserve American support. I believe that there has

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Speaker 3: defending themselves against Hamas and as the ongoing process in

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Speaker 3: favor of that right now. The House has already passed it.

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Speaker 3: The border bill is It's unbelievable how bad it is,

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Speaker 3: and that Biden would suddenly show up in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: the country and try to get a new bill done,

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Speaker 3: which doesn't really change the existing dynamics. It would still

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Speaker 3: millions of people to illegally enter the country. That five

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Speaker 3: thousand a day shut down of the border. Why don't

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Speaker 3: we just shut down the border before anybody gets here?

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Speaker 3: I mean, that seems like the very logical proposition. And

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Speaker 3: then all of this money for Ukraine, and what I

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Speaker 3: is I don't understand the argument in favor at this

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Speaker 3: Senator from Utah, we're giving Ukraine in this bit budget bill,

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Speaker 3: this bill, the border bill, everything rolled.

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Speaker 1: In together that just came out in the Senate buck.

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Speaker 3: We're giving Ukraine more money than we spend on the

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Speaker 3: United States Marines every year in the United States. This

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Speaker 3: is not talking about all the money we've already given

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Speaker 1: That was a wow moment for me.

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Speaker 3: I believe the marine budget, according to Mike Lee, fifty

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Speaker 3: three billion dollars a year. This bill would give Ukraine

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Speaker 1: That was a wow moment for me and Buck.

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Speaker 3: This is key and you and I I think have

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Speaker 3: been driving this point home for some time as it

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Speaker 3: pertains to Ukraine. There is no threat beyond Ukraine. Vladimir

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Speaker 3: Putin is not going to invade another country. Now you

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Speaker 3: can believe we should provide a support for Ukraine, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: But the argument of if we don't do this, then

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Speaker 3: Putin is like Hitler and he's going to storm into

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Speaker 3: another country and take that too. No, No, that is

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Speaker 3: not going to happen. That has not been a logical

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Speaker 3: to support Ukraine, but that we have to do it

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Speaker 3: because otherwise Putin MSS Hitler is not a sales point,

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Speaker 2: So here we have you mentioned that this in the bill.

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Speaker 2: The Secretary shall activate the Border Emergent I'm reading from

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Speaker 2: five hundred more aliens are encountered. This is saying, okay, look,

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Speaker 2: we can basically handle two million of these illegals a year,

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Speaker 2: and that's the way it's going to be. This is

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Speaker 2: the compromise position. I mean, my math is a little

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Speaker 2: Senate Republicans and Democrats have worked out. And also if

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Speaker 2: you look at another purpose, so they're basically saying you're

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Speaker 1: Which is which is a ton.

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Speaker 2: Right now it's more like eight, nine, ten thousand a day,

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Speaker 2: but it's still far too many to have five thousand

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Speaker 2: a day. The real way to handle this is to

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Speaker 2: say no illegals. How about that, no more people coming

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Speaker 2: into the country illegally, full stop. And the president needs

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Speaker 2: to take that action. Now Biden won't do it, we

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Speaker 2: only way to really start to turn this thing around. Also,

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Speaker 2: they say, Clay that the United this this got a

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Speaker 2: lot of attention. The United States District Court for DC

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Speaker 2: But the whole thing is a It's a disaster on

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Speaker 1: And for anyone who doesn't see.

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Speaker 2: That, Joe Biden saying this is great. So the guy

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Speaker 2: who has let in seven million illegals already by removing

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Speaker 2: all of the Trump policies that were stopping this massive flow,

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Speaker 2: is now saying, you know what, I like this Senate bill.

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Speaker 2: This has got some good stuff going on. I think

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Speaker 2: that tells you all you really need to know.

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Speaker 1: I think an.

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Speaker 3: Easy answer that I would love to hear from Joe

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Speaker 3: this one than any Trump has Buck. I believe it's

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Speaker 3: a thirty five point lead right now on who would

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Speaker 3: I think quite clearly to muddy the waters and try

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Speaker 3: tried to get biparties in immigration reform. I'm just telling

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Speaker 2: And I think the politics of this are are critical

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Speaker 2: to keep in mind because the only check on this

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Speaker 1: Have an open border.

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Speaker 2: Okay, people who say we don't have an open border

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Speaker 2: There are some provisions, for example, in this bill that

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Speaker 1: Well, guess what, that's already the law.

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Speaker 2: None of the people who are coming here transitting through

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Speaker 1: Few of them.

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Speaker 2: That's just one place where the law is being ignored

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Speaker 2: And I think that there needs to be accountability. Why

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Speaker 2: It's like they've let the house flood, you know, already

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Speaker 1: It's outrageous.

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Speaker 3: the Speaker of the House has said this bill is

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Speaker 3: which is I think frankly pathetic, and there should be

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Speaker 3: just look at the basic math of it. They're basically

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Speaker 3: locking in two million illegals a year forever, right, and

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Speaker 3: so admittedly, when things are bad, a decision to confirm

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Speaker 3: This would solve things. If anything, this would write into

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Speaker 3: actually in bolden Biden to maintain that going forward.

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Speaker 2: And make Republicans complicit, correct that the border disaster is

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Speaker 2: an entirely Democrat creation. Get ready for all the ads

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Speaker 2: You know what, we're gonna work with them to try

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. I mean, they've already let in about seven million.

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Speaker 1: But we got a lot to.

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Speaker 3: Dive into here, Buck chaos at the border. We've got

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Speaker 1: It is dead, all caps on arrival in the House.

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Speaker 1: That's at the bottom. So all of that is going

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Speaker 3: I wanted to play for you because the Democrats had

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Speaker 2: There had been some concern about whether he is maintained

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Speaker 1: Do you buy it?

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Speaker 3: What was your takeaway from the results that we got

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Speaker 2: But when it turns into the one or the other choice,

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Speaker 3: Here's the NBC poll that it goes to your point, Buck,

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Speaker 3: Men are overwhelmingly Trump supporters, fifty six to thirty four

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Speaker 3: according to this poll. Women fifty to forty in favor

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Speaker 3: of Biden. So and a lot of those people obviously

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Speaker 3: single women. But the gender, the gender gap here pretty

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I mean men, if men were just voting, right,

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Speaker 3: if the men of America were voting for President Trump

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Speaker 3: would win every state. And some of you out there

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Speaker 3: are like your eyebrows are going up. I'm not kidding

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Speaker 3: about that. Even New York and California, I legitimately believe,

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Speaker 3: would go to Trump if only men were voting. Women,

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're going to see a major gender shift.

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Speaker 3: And this is why I keep saying for people out

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Speaker 3: there who are like, I don't know why Clay keeps

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Speaker 3: talking about a woman VP, whether it's Nicki Haley, whether

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Speaker 3: it's Christy Noam, whether it's at least staphonic, whether it's

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Speaker 3: Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Marsha Blackburn, who I'm going to see tonight,

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Speaker 3: who I really like.

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Speaker 1: A fundraiser for Dave McCormick tell us I'm a big

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Speaker 1: Marsha fan. She's great.

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Speaker 3: Women are going to decide this election, and if Biden

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Speaker 3: wins women in a big way, this is going to

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Speaker 3: be a major issue. There's a huge gender imbalance right

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Speaker 3: now based on this data, and men are saying we're

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Speaker 3: with Trump, and women are saying we don't like Trump.

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Speaker 3: And I understand, by the way, every time I say this,

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Speaker 3: and you know what's gonna happen, Buck, I get blown

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Speaker 3: up by women who say I'm a woman and I

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Speaker 3: love Trump.

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Speaker 2: I get it that anodal, anecdotal feelings don't change nationwide

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Speaker 2: data the number all have to remember no matter what

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Speaker 2: look I it's it's so early in this process. One

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Speaker 2: thing that I that I think hasn't really even what

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Speaker 2: are the campaigns. I mean, we haven't seen really much

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Speaker 2: of anything yet from either side about Yeah, I mean Trump,

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Speaker 2: I guess it's just make America great again? Is the

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Speaker 2: slogan still or you know, restore? You know it's going

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Speaker 2: to be a repetition of that. What's the Biden national slogan?

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Speaker 2: Is there one yet? You know what? What is the

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Speaker 2: actual pitch for Joe? They're gonna have to make one.

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Speaker 2: I know if it's gonna say, oh, it's the Trump

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Speaker 2: is hitler. Yeah, fine, we know that. But we have

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Speaker 2: to see what these campaigns are because I think right

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Speaker 2: now they're getting pretty deep into the mix here without

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Speaker 2: really having a strategy. I want to hit you with that, Buck,

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Speaker 2: because I was going through I'm a nerd. I was

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Speaker 2: going through the NBC poll data as it pertains to

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Speaker 2: issues right, take away the candidates and just look at

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Speaker 2: who do we trust on individual issues? And Buck at

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Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour, I got some numbers on this,

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Speaker 2: but the one I want to tease is this basically

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Speaker 2: threats to democracy. According to the NBC poll, is no

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Speaker 2: longer registering as a win for Biden. I found that

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Speaker 2: fascinating Biden is only up among voters who do you

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Speaker 2: consider a threat to democracy? Forty three to forty one,

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Speaker 2: and that was a huge part of their twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: two campaign. The only real issue that Biden has a

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Speaker 2: double digit lead on is abortion.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: On the entire everything that NBC pulled voters on who

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Speaker 3: would be better on all these different issues, Biden only

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Speaker 3: had a double digit lead on abortion.

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Speaker 1: Trump had a double digit lead on five issues.

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Speaker 3: And even that democracy thing, which we all know are

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Speaker 3: sacred democracy. How they're all going to grab their pearls

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Speaker 3: and fall in that fainting couch. I think all these

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Speaker 3: charges against Trump have made it harder to argue that

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Speaker 3: uniquely Republicans are big threats to democracy. I think they

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Speaker 3: have potentially cut the legs out from underneath that argument

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Speaker 3: by trying to put Trump in prison for the rest

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Speaker 3: of his life.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean they have acted. As I've said, they

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Speaker 2: keep screaming about how crazy Trump is, and then they

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Speaker 2: act like a bunch of people who are completely out

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Speaker 2: of their minds. That's not confidence inspiring for anyone who

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Speaker 2: is persuadable one way or the other. If you're pointing

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Speaker 2: the finger at the other guy saying you can't elect him.

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Speaker 2: He's crazy and you're acting like a total loon. Kind

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Speaker 2: of undermines the argument. And with these legal challenges. First

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Speaker 2: of all, aren't they even the Supreme Court's looking at

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Speaker 2: the Colorado.

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Speaker 1: Thing right now? Right? I mean, can they take him

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Speaker 1: off the ballot? They're trying to take him off the

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Speaker 1: ballot in Calrod This is Colorado.

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Speaker 2: Anime do this?

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Speaker 1: There is no end Maine. But if they were able

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Speaker 1: to do this, there's no such thing.

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Speaker 2: As do process everybody. Somebody can just say oh, you

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Speaker 2: can't run for president anymore because we say so effectively,

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Speaker 2: because there's been no he hasn't been found guilty of

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Speaker 2: any crime. So they could just remove him from the

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Speaker 2: ballot because they say so. I mean, that is true dictator,

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Speaker 2: third world nonsense. And Democrats think this makes them heroes. No,

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Speaker 2: normal people, emotionally stable people, not living in the mandatory

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Speaker 2: delusions of the Democrat Party. They see this for what

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Speaker 2: it is. Clay, no doubt. We'll take some of your calls.

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Speaker 2: By the way, eight hundred and two two two eight

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Speaker 2: of people are still eligible to show up and vote

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Speaker 2: in the Republican primary as well.

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Speaker 1: You can't not surprisingly vote in.

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Speaker 3: Both, So if you didn't show up for the Democrat primary,

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Speaker 3: you are still eligible to show up and vote in

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Speaker 3: Nicky Haley versus Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton Voices of sanity an insane world.

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Speaker 2: Third hour Clay and Walk kicks off right now. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for rolling with us, everybody. We've got Bridge Colby joining

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Speaker 2: former Deputy Assistant Secretary for Defense for Strategy and Force

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Speaker 2: Deployment at the Pentagon under the Trump administration. Co founder

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Speaker 2: and principle of the Marathon Initiative. His book is Strategy

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Speaker 2: of Denial, American Defense in an Age of Great Power Conflict.

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Speaker 2: Also know is Denial. It's not just a river in Egypt?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Bridge? Good to have you, Hey, great

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Speaker 1: to be with you.

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Speaker 2: So we got a bunch of foreign policy things. First off,

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Speaker 2: I we mentioned at the top of the show. So

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Speaker 2: it looks like kataipe Hesbaalah managed to break through our

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Speaker 2: defenses and Jordan killed a few Americans wounded a few

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Speaker 2: dozen more. Biden does some reprisal strikes? Is this just

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Speaker 2: what it is? And does it stop here? What do

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Speaker 2: you see happening?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's looking like it's stoped thing. And

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Speaker 6: they've done more strikes the administration over the weekend, including

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Speaker 6: against the huties, and they're telegraphing, as Sullivan said yesterday.

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Speaker 6: J Sullivan, the National Scupit advisor, said that they're they're

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Speaker 6: going to do more strikes, and I don't see it

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Speaker 6: really changing the fundamental calculus on the part of Iran

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Speaker 6: or its proxies at this point. I mean my view is,

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Speaker 6: you know, look, they've killed Americans. Obviously there needs to

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Speaker 6: be effective reprisal, you know, kinetic, consistent with our focus

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Speaker 6: on Asia and then also financial. But at the same time,

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Speaker 6: I think we need to ask real hard questions about

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Speaker 6: why we're leaving you know, soldiers and other personnel a

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Speaker 6: kind of in these lily pad bases, kind of like

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Speaker 6: an Indian country in Syria and Iraq possibly have been Jordan,

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Speaker 6: you know, essentially as like hostage is the fortune, or

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Speaker 6: a hostages escalation by Iran, it's proxies. It just seems

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Speaker 6: like a bad because some of the critiques saying, oh,

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Speaker 6: we should, you know, take it to a run. I mean, look,

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Speaker 6: we don't want a war, and at least not because

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Speaker 6: Ron's good. We can't really afford one on multiple levels.

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Speaker 6: So you know, we have enough missile defense to go around.

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Speaker 6: Let's think about rationalizing our posture there and looking at

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Speaker 6: what we really need. I mean, does the administration really

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Speaker 6: have a compelling case for what a lot of these

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Speaker 6: these soldiers and these posts are doing. I haven't really.

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Speaker 1: Heard it bridge.

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Speaker 3: When you look at in addition to what's going on

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Speaker 3: in the Middle East, there's a big debate about how

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Speaker 3: much more money we should give to Ukraine. Senate Bill

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Speaker 3: out there would give them. I believe it's sixty billion

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Speaker 3: dollars more. Seems quite clear we've entered into a stalemate.

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Speaker 3: Neither side is moving very much. There's minefields, there's trench warfare.

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Speaker 3: It feels almost like the battle lines are fixed. Where

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Speaker 3: is this going? Are we throwing good money after bad

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Speaker 3: at this point, in your mind, is a negotiated piece

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Speaker 3: where Ukraine gives up some territory inevitable.

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Speaker 1: How would you assess as we.

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Speaker 3: Begin shortly a third full year of Ukraine Russia conflict.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think sixty one billion dollars that's

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Speaker 6: a lot of money, especially in a situation where I

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Speaker 6: mean J. Powell, I think said over the weekend that

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Speaker 6: our debt is becoming a real problem, and obviously Americans

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Speaker 6: are feeling it. We've spent a ton of money already

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Speaker 6: in the last few years with the pandemic and so forth.

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Speaker 6: I think that money would be far better invested in

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Speaker 6: our primary challenge, which is China and Asia. And you'll

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Speaker 6: hear advocates for this kind of funding say that we're

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Speaker 6: going to deter China and the Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: That's just not true.

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Speaker 6: And I think, you know, we can go into why

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Speaker 6: that is. But if you're going to deter China or

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Speaker 6: deal with China, deal with China directly along the first

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Speaker 6: island chain, and there's a relatively small amount of money

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Speaker 6: in the supplemental that's going towards Asia. Representative Gallagher, the

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Speaker 6: head of the China Committee, called a joke a few

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Speaker 6: months ago. So I think our priorities are totally off.

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Speaker 6: The Europeans need to take much more responsibility, and they

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Speaker 6: are moving in that direction. They're actually doing more countries

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Speaker 6: like Germany. Obviously, they're very real and I think serious

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Speaker 6: and genuine and I think compelling concerns about the border

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Speaker 6: provisions as well. I mean, in terms of what's going

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Speaker 6: on in the Ukraine, I think, you know, honestly, a

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Speaker 6: stalemate might not be the worst outcome. General Jaluzhni, the

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Speaker 6: Chief of Defense or achieve of the Army, whom it

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Speaker 6: appears Presidence Lenski is trying to fire, which seems I mean,

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Speaker 6: I'm not an expert on it, but he wrote a

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Speaker 6: pretty sound op ed actually over the weekend or late

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Speaker 6: last week in CNN saying, look, we should shift more

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Speaker 6: to the defense. Our partners are getting tired, they're shortages

657
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Speaker 6: of weapons. The Russians have a lot more resources, and

658
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Speaker 6: they're willing to use attrition. Let's use the advantage of

659
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Speaker 6: technology what we've learned drones to set up a defense.

660
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Speaker 6: That seemed very prudent to me. Pushing the Europeans to

661
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Speaker 6: take the lead and supporting that, I think that could

662
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Speaker 6: be a good basis for an eventual negotiation or compromise,

663
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Speaker 6: whether it's formal or not. You know, it could be

664
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Speaker 6: something like a stalemate like in Korea. If they don't

665
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Speaker 6: play their cards right, and if Europe doesn't step up,

666
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Speaker 6: it could be worse. I mean, I don't think it's

667
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 6: impossible the Russians could make more progress, which would be bad,

668
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Speaker 6: but I think that, you know, realistically, there's going to

669
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Speaker 6: be and I mean, the administration has been telegraphing this

670
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 6: for a while that I think is some the only

671
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Speaker 6: really plausible endgame, you know, the kind of victory sort

672
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Speaker 6: of mantra that we heard for a number of years.

673
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Speaker 6: I mean, Russia unfortunately, Russia is not going to go

674
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Speaker 6: away as an mc Putin unfortunately is not going to

675
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Speaker 6: go away. So we're going to have to, you know,

676
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 6: the Ukrainians are going to have to put up a

677
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Speaker 6: stout defense in order to make negotiations credible and Putin's

678
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 6: best option, and that's going to require somebody to step up.

679
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 6: But it's not going to be the American taxpayer. The

680
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 6: American taxpayer spent I think one hundred and thirteen billion

681
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 6: on Ukraine already.

682
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Speaker 1: That's way more.

683
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 6: This is in Europe, so Europe should take primary responsibility

684
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Speaker 6: for it.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Bridge Colby, his book is Strategy of Denial

686
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: and Bridge Wondering what your your senses of the enormous

687
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: win for Bukeley in El Salvador, I mean, just for

688
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: everyone out there. Bukeley turned around El Salvador from being

689
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 2: one of the highest per capita murder states in the world,

690
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 2: really affected a fiefdom of MS thirteen and other drug gangs,

691
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: and through this crazy idea known as really serious law

692
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: enforcement against gangs, murderers, rapists, and thieves, he managed to

693
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: make Al Salvador actually a pretty safe country, not just

694
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Speaker 2: a not deeply unsafe country. I think he won by

695
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: ninety percent plus margins. What do you make of the

696
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: Bucale victory in Ol Salvador? Bridge and are other Latin

697
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: American countries' populations watching that and thinking, hey, maybe we

698
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: don't have to have like four of the top ten,

699
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 2: you know, highest murder cities in the world.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think it sounds like I haven't

701
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 6: followed it quite as closely, but I think that's the right.

702
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Speaker 6: A couple of things, I mean, one is, look, I

703
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 6: mean you hear out of Biden and his team and

704
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 6: a lot of the Europeans all this talk about you know,

705
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 6: green trans revolution or the rule space in the national order.

706
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 6: I think a lot of people, particularly in what's called

707
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Speaker 6: the Global South, they want to be safe, they want

708
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 6: growing economies, they want reliable energy, they want government that's

709
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 6: not that corrupt, pretty straight forward stuff, and that's what

710
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 6: we should be focused on working with countries. You know,

711
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 6: a lot of the sort of the left likes to

712
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 6: go after, say the Indian government, but they're delivering growing

713
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 6: prosperity for well over a billion people. So I think

714
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Speaker 6: that's a model that Americans can get behind and less

715
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Speaker 6: behind the sort of lecturing everybody. And also it means

716
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 6: that you know, they're partners. I mean, I think one

717
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 6: of the things that conservatives can kind of you know,

718
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 6: sort of trumpet is like you know, the left likes

719
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 6: to present itself is the only ones who are popular abroad.

720
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Speaker 6: I think it's a different model. They're in the model

721
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 6: of the rules base in national or Tony blinking going

722
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 6: around in lecturing countries. Our model should be we work

723
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Speaker 6: with countries to improve their sovereignty. You know, we're going

724
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Speaker 6: to help people help themselves, and I think maybe that

725
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 6: Al Salvador result shows some evidence for the success of that.

726
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Speaker 1: Model bridge you just mentioned. China.

727
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Speaker 3: I'm doing some fun reading over the weekend. Japan's stock

728
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 3: market peaked in nineteen eighty nine and is just now

729
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 3: whatever it is thirty five years later, basically getting back

730
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Speaker 3: to the level that it was in nineteen eighty nine.

731
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: And if we'd had this conversation in nineteen eighty nine,

732
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: we would have been saying, Man, Japan is a real

733
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: threat on the economic horizon. Instead they collapsed. China is

734
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: starting now. You may think this is crazy. Maybe you

735
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 3: sign on to it a little bit to look a

736
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 3: bit like Japan did, where they surge, but then they

737
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: sort of freeze. And sometimes when you start to have

738
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: a decline in power, population is going down, Youth unemployment

739
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 3: rate is very high in China. They haven't been able

740
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Speaker 3: to really get their economy to that next proverbial next

741
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: level to really compete with the United States. Does that

742
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 3: make it more or less likely in your mind that

743
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: they invade Taiwan? How would you assess China's potentially beginning

744
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 3: of a decline of power there and how that could

745
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: make things maybe more tempestuous.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I mean it's a great question. I mean, look,

747
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 6: I don't have a crystal ball on that. Otherwise I'd

748
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 6: be investing in making a lot more money. But the

749
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 6: I mean, I think, look, I think the Chinese economy

750
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 6: is clearly meeting very serious headwinds, and they're very real,

751
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 6: and they're not going to go away easily. I think

752
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 6: in order for China to change from the people that

753
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 6: I think are most credible reading them, you know, they've

754
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 6: got to make structural reforms that are going to be

755
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 6: very difficult to do. On the other hand, I don't

756
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 6: count the Chinese out on a couple of reasons. I mean, look,

757
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 6: there's a lot of talented people there. They've already broken

758
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 6: They're already at the forefront of a lot of leading technologies.

759
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 6: They've made heavy investments in you know, cutting edge things

760
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 6: like electric vehicles, batteries, AI, et cetera. You know, the

761
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 6: list goes on. That's going to make them competitive going forward.

762
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 6: It's worth thinking about. You know, Japan didn't really collapse,

763
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 6: Like there's still effective Japanese companies. You go to Japan,

764
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 6: it's still a very rich country. If China ends up

765
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 6: at that kind of level it's going to be I

766
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 6: think like three or four times the size the American economy,

767
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 6: something like that, maybe two to three times. So it's

768
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Speaker 6: a little bit cold comfort. The other thing that I'm

769
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 6: concerned about is that Chinese believe that a lot of

770
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 6: in particular exieson Ping believes that a lot of the

771
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 6: reason why they're having these difficulties and why it's going

772
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 6: to be worse than the future for them is because

773
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 6: and this is his word, we the Americans and our

774
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 6: allies are strangling them or strangling their future economic growth.

775
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 6: Now that's a very dangerous situation because the other analogy

776
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 6: to Japan is Japan nineteen forty one, when we put

777
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 6: an embargo on Japan without having a strong military in

778
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 6: the Japanese said, well, I'm being strangled here, So I

779
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 6: guess my least bad option is to lash out and

780
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 6: use military force and try to create a kind of

781
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 6: an economic sphere that's under my control. I'm concerned about

782
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 6: that possibility, especially because the Chinese have massive overcapacity of

783
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 6: like industrial and other kind of production that they need

784
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 6: countries to eat, and there's increasing resistance to countries. Even

785
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 6: this President Trump has I think, you know, reasonably called

786
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 6: for raising tariffs Bob Ltheiser and others. But if China

787
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 6: looks at and says, you know, hey, I'm going to

788
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 6: have difficulty dealing with all this overcapacity, they might look

789
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 6: for the sword. And so I think that's another reason

790
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 6: why we need to be prepared. We can't predict what

791
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 6: chesing thing is going to do. There's reasons why they

792
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 6: might act, you know, in a bad economy, there's reasons

793
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 6: why they might act in a good economy. But the

794
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 6: main problem is they're building up a military to do

795
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 6: something and they're actively preparing for it. Sam Papara, who's

796
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 6: up for the Indo pay Com commander, he said the

797
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 6: other day people often talk about twenty twenty seven. Twenty

798
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 6: twenty seven is just a target date for them. They

799
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 6: might go before, they might go after. Nobody knows. So

800
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 6: we have to be ready today, tomorrow, in five years.

801
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 6: I think that's the right approach.

802
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: Bridge Some states are taking action to limit Chinese based

803
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 2: purchase of US land. What do you Obviously, yeah, we

804
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: don't want the Chinese buying land around sensitive military installation

805
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: stuff like that. But broader bands on owning land, even

806
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: as it pertains to say agricultural production, farmland, things like that.

807
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: Do you think that that's the right move and is

808
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: that part of the process of decoupling from China economically?

809
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: That's really one of the most important ways that we

810
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: could defend ourselves over the long term from the Chinese

811
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: Communist Party.

812
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 6: Well, look, I think there's I think state level effort

813
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 6: is a really important effort. In fact, there's a friend

814
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,479
Speaker 6: of mine who just started up a group called State

815
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 6: Armor that is supposed to actually help states with legislation

816
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 6: and so forth to kind of think about what they

817
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 6: can do. You know, say, what if there's an invasion

818
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 6: of Taiwan. I mean, we saw what happened in the pandemic.

819
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 6: I mean, states are going to eat a lot of

820
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 6: the results. Even if they have very little power on

821
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 6: the foreign policy level. They need to be ready. They

822
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 6: need to have instruments.

823
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: Land is one.

824
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of regulatory There's stuff on

825
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 6: like cyber and electronic and water infrastructure. I mean, there

826
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 6: was the big testimony by Chris Ray and a bunch

827
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 6: of other pubas the other day to the Select Committee

828
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 6: on China pointing out that the Chines are all over

829
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 6: our grids. You know, that's a state level issue, so

830
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 6: I think it's very important. I do think that decoupling.

831
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 6: My big advice on the decoupling thing is, look, I

832
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 6: think we need to be decoupled too. But to get

833
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 6: back to my point about strangulation, I think we need

834
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 6: to decouple strategically while we're also presenting that shield, because

835
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 6: what we don't want to do is try to decouple

836
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 6: and then not give China a disincentive to strike out

837
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 6: and then prevent us from decoupling. And this is my

838
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 6: argument to a lot of people on the right who

839
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,479
Speaker 6: are saying, hey, like forget about Taiwan, forget about Asia,

840
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 6: it's not worth it. We can cut a deal with

841
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 6: China if we're stuck with like a North American market zone.

842
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 6: That ain't gonna do it because Canada and Mexico aren't

843
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 6: going to cut it. And by the way, most South

844
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 6: American countries trade more with China. Anyway, We've got to

845
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 6: stay competitive. We have to prevent China from dominating the

846
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 6: world's largest market area, which is Asia. We don't want

847
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 6: to get in the war about it, but there's got

848
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 6: to be a balance of power. And unfortunately, you know,

849
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 6: as Trump and Reagan and many others. It's peace through

850
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 6: strength here, but real peace through strength, which is to say,

851
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 6: build up the strength and then use it judiciously.

852
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 3: Bridge appreciate it as always encourage you guys. Check out

853
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Speaker 3: the strategy of denial American defense in an age of

854
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Speaker 3: great power conflict.

855
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Speaker 1: Appreciate man.

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Speaker 6: Great talk to you, guys.

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Speaker 5: The Voices of Sanity in an Insane World, Layne Travis said,

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Speaker 5: Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: Though I don't watch SNL, gotta be honest, I haven't

883
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: thought it's good really since the Dana Carvey, Mike Myers era,

884
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: Phil Hartman. I mean, there are whole bunch of folks then,

885
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: But you know that was when SNL was funny last,

886
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: so I think that's maybe twenty years ago, maybe a

887
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: little more than that. If that's that's something about, right, right,

888
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 2: Dana Carvey Mike Myers era was like early late nineties,

889
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: early two thousands, right, I would think that's I.

890
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: Think that's right.

891
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it hasn't been good as a program in

892
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: a long time. It's actually been brutal a lot of

893
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: years because it's become just sort of left wing orthodoxy

894
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 2: with the occasional bad joke over the weekend. Nicki Haley,

895
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: Now this isn't Let's dive into this a little bit.

896
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: Nicki Haley.

897
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: M really, she's on SNL. This is fifteen. Let's hear

898
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: what some of this appearance sounded like.

899
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 7: Okay, our next question come from someone who describes herself

900
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 7: as a concern South Carolina voter. Yes, hello, My question

901
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 7: is why won't you debate Nicki Haley.

902
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's heir the woman who is in

903
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: charge of security on January sixth, it's Nancy Belosi.

904
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 7: For the one hundredth time, that is not Nancy Felosi.

905
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: It is Nicki Haley.

906
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 2: Now, I look, I wasn't prettyly well done. I think

907
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: we've had on this show, friends of ours. You do

908
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: much better Trump impersonations than that guy we've had what

909
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: Captain deplorable does a much better Trump. Yes, the comedian

910
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 2: who was on Shane Gillis, he does a better Trump impression.

911
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: But that put that aside for a second. I think

912
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: he was the host this week right this weekend. I

913
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 2: didn't watch it, but I remember they wouldn't allow him

914
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: to be a member of the cast buck because they

915
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 2: said that he had done offensive jokes in the past.

916
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: The entire idea of a comedian not being able to

917
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: be employed as a comedian because at some point in

918
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: time he's done jokes that somebody considered to be offensive

919
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 2: actually makes me like the comedian more, because comedians should

920
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: be offensive sometimes, like that's kind of the job. You

921
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: should push the envelope. Yeah, I think so, especially if

922
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: you're if you're going to be the kind of comedian

923
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: who offends some people. As long as you're trying to

924
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 2: offend everybody and just make it funny, I don't have

925
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 2: a problem with that.

926
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: Usually comedians just offend you.

927
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: Know, believing Christians and you know, Republicans and white males,

928
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: and this has become the they've become the butt of

929
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: jokes for so many years. But what I found interesting

930
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: here is just that the the Democrat hatred of Trump

931
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: burns so brightly that they will will will temporarily embrace

932
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Speaker 2: even nicky Haley for the purposes of scratching their anti

933
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: Trump itch. You know, they will, they will do whatever

934
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Speaker 2: they have to do to elevate anyone who.

935
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Speaker 1: They think is.

936
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: Causing problems for Trump in any capacity whatsoever.

937
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Speaker 1: This would be funny, buck. I don't think he would

938
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Speaker 1: do it.

939
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Speaker 3: But what if Trump just said publicly, hey, I'll guest

940
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 3: host SNL.

941
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: He absolutely should do it. They would never let him

942
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Speaker 2: do it. They would not.

943
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Speaker 1: But if he put out the.

944
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Speaker 3: Idea, you know, hey, I saw you had Nicky Haley

945
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: on Joe Biden can't read off a teleprompter. I mean,

946
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 3: Joe Biden trying to guest host guestos Saturday Night Live

947
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 3: would be incredible, riveting television talk because he could barely

948
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: do anything much less be funny. But if Trump put

949
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 3: it out on truth Social if he just said, hey,

950
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Speaker 3: I saw you had Nicki Haley on, I will guest

951
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: host SNL. I will show up in guest host love

952
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: to do it just let me know, they would set

953
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Speaker 3: off a panic because they would never let him on that.

954
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Speaker 3: All of the left that loves SNL would talk about

955
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Speaker 3: how they're platforming Trump and mainstreaming his racism and sexism

956
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 3: and xenophobia. You know exactly. That's how it would play out.

957
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 3: I think it would end up being very beneficial to

958
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 3: Trump because it would show how far outside the mainstream

959
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 3: his detractors are, and I think it would play well

960
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 3: for him to have a little bit of fun at

961
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: their expense and basically call him out, because I think

962
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Speaker 3: there's no way they'd let him guest host.

963
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: Remember how upset they got at Jimmy Fallon, who my

964
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: understanding as recently has gotten a little bit of a

965
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 2: slice of humble pie because of the way his staff

966
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: feels that from his treatment.

967
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: I saw that. I didn't realize that was a yeah,

968
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Speaker 1: you know some of.

969
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 2: These guys, they managed to come across like, oh, it's

970
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: all fun and games, they're actually like everyone knew David

971
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 2: Letterman was a mean guy, but I didn't know that

972
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: Jimmy Fallon was considered to be a mean guy anyway,

973
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: neither to his staff at least. But remember when he

974
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: tussled Trump's hair, people were angry at I don't just

975
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: mean a few random people on the internet. The general

976
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: Democrat cultural apparatus was angry at Jimmy Fallon because it

977
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 2: was a humanizing moment for Trump and made him seem

978
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: like a guy with a sense of humor about himself.

979
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 2: Joe Biden is an imbecile who takes himself very seriously.

980
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: Donald Trump actually does have a sense of humor.

981
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: He's he's quite.

982
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: Funny, but he even has a sense of humor about

983
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: himself and that's very endearing to people. And so they

984
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 2: recognized that, even though that was just a brief moment,

985
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: it was something that's stuck with people. Nikki Haley, by

986
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: the way, also this was another moment from her appearance.

987
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: She wasn't guest hosting, but she appeared on SNL and

988
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 2: here she is talking about remember how she was asked

989
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 2: about the Civil War and didn't address slavery. This is

990
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Speaker 2: sixteen play.

991
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 7: Okay, we have time for one more question, and it's

992
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 7: actually four Ambassador Haley, I was just.

993
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 2: Curious, what would you say was the main cause of

994
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: the Civil War?

995
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 4: And do you think it starts with an S and

996
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 4: ends with a lavery?

997
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 3: Yes, I probably should have said that the first time.

998
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 3: And live from New York, it's Saturday night.

999
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 2: It is also you and I could write a better

1000
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: comedy sketch than this. That's the best that they can

1001
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 2: come up with. The writing is just not good.

1002
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: No, And I mean the problem is buck anytime you

1003
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 3: pull your punches in comedy, you can't be that good.

1004
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 3: That's why South Park, I think is the most consistently

1005
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: funny show that has been on for years and years,

1006
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: because to your point earlier, you have to kind of

1007
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 3: consistently ridicule every direction, and as soon as you decide

1008
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: that you're not going to go in multiple directions in

1009
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 3: terms of ridicule, you're not really comedy anymore. You're propaganda.

1010
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 3: And when you become propaganda, you're often the enemy of humor.

1011
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 3: And that is where much of comedy in America has gone.

1012
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 3: I think comedians are afraid. I think what they have

1013
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 3: seen happen with cancel culture means that they pull their

1014
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: punches in their jokes. How many comedians out there now

1015
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 3: get up on stage and say, hey, I'm not even

1016
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: going to allow you to have cell phones because they're

1017
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: afraid of moments going viral from their comedy sets. And

1018
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 3: I just come back to if you get offended by

1019
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 3: a joke, regardless of the joke, to me, that's on you, right.

1020
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: And I would like.

1021
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 3: America more if we had even handed comedy like we

1022
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: did in the eighties and nineties. I think people in

1023
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 3: whole would like it. And really, what happened to late

1024
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 3: night television. We've talked about on this show. Stephen Colbert's

1025
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: show stunk. He was in last place on CBS. Nobody

1026
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: was watching him, and then they decided, Hey, we're gonna

1027
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 3: turn this into a left wing sport, I mean, a

1028
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: left winging comedy program, and we're just going to ridicule

1029
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: Republicans and is rating skyrocketing. And then everybody else followed him,

1030
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 3: and I think there's I mean, you've seen with Greg Gutfeld,

1031
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 3: there's actually a huge percentage of people out there that

1032
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 3: just kind of want to laugh. I mean Greg Guttfeld, Buck,

1033
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy. It doesn't get enough attention. Greg

1034
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 3: Guttfelds his show on Fox News has more nightly viewers

1035
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 3: than Kimmel, than Colbet and then Foulin on ABC, CBS

1036
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 3: and NBC. It's a pretty amazing testament to Greg Guttfeld's reach,

1037
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: but also to the demand out there that is not

1038
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 3: being sated. And by the ways we go to break here, Buck,

1039
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: I want to hit you with these numbers and we

1040
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: can react to him a little bit. I've been teasing

1041
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: this for a while on NBC. This is NBC News

1042
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 3: poll that came out on Sunday, Who do you trust

1043
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 3: more on border security?

1044
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: Trump plus thirty five. Who do you trust more on

1045
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: the economy? Trump plus twenty two. Who do you.

1046
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: Trust more on dealing with crime and violence? Trump plus

1047
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 3: twenty one. Who do you trust more on being competent

1048
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 3: and effective?

1049
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: Trump plus sixteen.

1050
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: Who do you trust more on improving America's standing in

1051
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 3: the world? Trump plus eleven. Who do you trust more

1052
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 3: on having the necessary mental and physical health to be president?

1053
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 3: Trump plus twenty three. Biden on protecting democracy Buck only

1054
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 3: plus two. He's got abortion, but even on protecting democracy,

1055
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 3: that's all fading. We'll react a little bit to that

1056
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 3: when we come back, but that to me stood out again.

1057
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 3: Dealing with the issue of abortion, Biden plus twelve. Not

1058
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: even that big of a favorite on abortion. But if

1059
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 3: you're wondering what their method and madness is going to

1060
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 3: be in the campaign, basically lost to the issue of

1061
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 3: jan six. According to this NBC poll, abortion is going

1062
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 3: to be there. But Trump is winning every major issue

1063
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 3: by fifteen, twenty even thirty or thirty five points. Pretty extraordinary.

1064
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: I agree, extraordinary stuff and important that everyone keep it

1065
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: in mind going forward, and also important that.

1066
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Speaker 1: We do a read here. Claye, do you do you

1067
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: have the reader do I have to read?

1068
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 3: I think, I think, I think you have to read.

1069
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: I knew you were stalling there, and it got me

1070
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 3: nervous because I'm like, wait a minute, is this.

1071
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: Supposed to be me? Or is it supposed to be you?

1072
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: All right, here we go, It is you. You're got

1073
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Speaker 1: a lot of working with Legacy Box everybody. I thought

1074
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: it was Clay. I was about to yell at him.

1075
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: It turns out it was me.

1076
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Speaker 2: Legacy Box is amazing, Like my marriage and my wife

1077
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Speaker 2: her family just did Legacy Box over the holiday, and

1078
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: they make they make it so easy for you because

1079
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: they send you the box and the mail and what

1080
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: it what it does is it lets you in all

1081
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 2: your old photos, film reels, video, VHS, Beta Max, whatever

1082
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 2: you got, and they digitize it all for you. And

1083
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