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Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I am

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Speaker 1: Dale Lollie. He is Matt Williamson and this is the

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Speaker 1: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And Matt we were just talking about the schedule and

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Speaker 2: I saw something here on the cbssports dot com ranking

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Speaker 2: the top ten most impactful twenty twenty three rookie draft

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Speaker 2: classes for the upcoming season. And some of these teams

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Speaker 2: we just talked about here they have the top ten.

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Speaker 2: It's written by Chris Trappazon. Chris Trapezo, I should say,

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Speaker 2: and I.

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Speaker 3: Thought, incan impact, right, I mean incident impact?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which ones are going to have the biggest impact

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Speaker 2: right out of the gates. I thought we'd talked about

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Speaker 2: this and look at it from there's again the aspect here,

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Speaker 2: which of these teams to the Steelers face who made

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Speaker 2: who improved themselves the most okay with the draft? At

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Speaker 2: number ten, he has the Los Angeles Chargers with impactful

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Speaker 2: rookies Quinton Johnson, Dayon, Henley Tully Alope two and Darius Davis,

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Speaker 2: a wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: So I apologize. I'm not familiar with Chris's work, but

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Speaker 3: I can't believe that there's only no I mean that

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Speaker 3: this The Chargers are in the top ten. To be

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Speaker 3: very honest with you, I'm looking into the article two.

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Speaker 3: Quinton Johnson's a number three receiver. I mean maybe Henley starts,

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Speaker 3: but I mean Darius Davis matters. I mean, yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: not a very impactful rookie class in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I well it is number ten, so yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean it. At number At number nine, he has the

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Speaker 2: Denver Broncos with Marvin Mims, Drew Sanders, Riley Moss, and

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Speaker 3: Well, they have hardly any draft picks and no high ones. However,

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Speaker 3: I can see all those guys doing stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Again, another team, the Steelers don't play this season, so

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Speaker 2: you know you're not going to see that team.

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Speaker 3: Right right, But no, it could. Yeah, not a lot

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Speaker 3: of high end dudes.

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Speaker 2: At eight is the Giants with Deontay Banks, John Michael Schmidt's,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hyatt and running.

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Speaker 1: Back Eric Gray.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that one's that one's gonna make it.

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Speaker 2: Those those first three guys are probably all starters for them.

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Speaker 3: The top two definitely are and are upgrades even if

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Speaker 3: they struggle and high it'll be mixed in a lot,

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Speaker 3: you know, right, Yeah, I agree that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Uh at seven, he has the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: I would have had them pretty high. I think the

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Speaker 3: top three are all impact guys.

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Speaker 2: You got Dalton Kincaid the tight end, who's really a

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Speaker 2: wide receiver, Osyrus Torrents, Dorian Williams the linebacker and wide receiver,

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Speaker 3: No guarantee Dorian Williams starts, but there's a there's a

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Speaker 3: big hole.

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Speaker 1: There for there's a path there for him to do.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, I'd be shocked if Torrence doesn't start. And

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Speaker 3: King Kaid's just flat out gonna play a lot.

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Speaker 2: I saw a thing that Bills were like thirty first

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Speaker 2: last year in twelve personnel.

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Speaker 1: Well that's gonna change that.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna change. But Kingkag's a typical tight end. But yes,

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Speaker 3: I mean he's gonna be on the field a time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean they get they get Dawson Knox

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Speaker 2: there that they're gonna be more difficult to defend this year.

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Speaker 3: I think the Kinkaid pick up is if this was

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Speaker 3: Bill's Nation Radio would be doing cart wheels over it.

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Speaker 3: It's how he fits. I mean, frankly, he might be

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Speaker 3: closer to Cole Beasley in terms of usage than Dawson Knox,

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Speaker 3: and boy, I'd much rather defend Cole Beasley than Dylon Kincaid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 2: At six are the Chicago Bears, darn right, Yeah, Gervin

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Speaker 2: dexter Rashawn Johnson, cornerback Terrell Smith, defensive tackle Zach Pickens,

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Speaker 3: You gotta say you took words out of my mouth.

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Speaker 3: Is obviously there's a formula for this exercise. Lots of picks,

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Speaker 1: Gonna make an impact.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and impact isn't always good, you know.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's Tyreey Stevens, Stevenson and Terrell Smith getting roasted

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Speaker 3: I think it was Bill Parcells that said something along

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Speaker 3: the lines of for every rookie I start, I count

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Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, well actually I think I I

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Speaker 2: think that was actually the Bears coach, the pit guy,

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Speaker 2: that thing. Yeah, I think he said that when he

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Speaker 2: traded this whole draft class for rookie Williams.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, I start guys when I can only start one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you expect rookie mistakes. Now this

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Speaker 2: is this is a different era though of NFL football.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is now starting rookies because the clock is ticking

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, like the super seventy Steelers first round

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Speaker 1: You know, right right, sometimes they didn't make the team.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's just the right right right right, he

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Speaker 2: one that that plays a lot at number five. Now,

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Speaker 2: this draft class got ripped a lot, but these guys

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Speaker 3: This is the obviously the argument in their favor.

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Speaker 2: So it's the Lions with running back Jamiir Gibbs, linebacker

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Speaker 2: got tight end Sam Laporta, in safety Brian Branch at

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Speaker 2: Antoine Green. I mean that's gonna be able to that's

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I think all four of those guys are flat

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Speaker 3: for Jameson Williams, is suspended, but still those four should

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if Gibbs plays every snap right

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Speaker 2: Jack Campbell's never leaving the field. Brian Branch is never

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Speaker 2: leaving the field, no doubt. You know that fight in

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Speaker 2: So when people that's the you know, we talked about

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Speaker 2: not go get the Why not go get the guy

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Speaker 2: that you feel the best about, you think you think

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Speaker 1: You take him. Otherwise you're starting Benny Snell.

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Speaker 3: This is a bigger conversation, but I'm hearing more and

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Speaker 3: more folks, even the never drafted running back back high

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Speaker 3: crowd or the super analytical folks that once you get

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Speaker 3: out of that fifteen surefire first rounders running back after

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Speaker 3: that makes a lot of sense because the fifth year

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Speaker 3: tag on him is like five million compared to like

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Speaker 3: ten fifteen to other teams, know for other positions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look at what the Browns had to

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Speaker 2: he got expensive much more quickly. Whereas you know, if

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Speaker 3: And I love Jalen Warren, and there's certainly an argument, Hey,

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Speaker 3: you can find late running backs or undrafted running backs

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Speaker 3: been really good football players. But all expect to Jayleen Warren,

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Speaker 3: the Browns would not have been nearly as good if

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Speaker 3: you put every snap that Chubb played with Warren in

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Speaker 1: I mean he's a superstar, right, It's a big difference,

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Speaker 2: Are the Packers a team? And the Steelers will see

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Speaker 2: this year good one, especially the receivers. Yeah, Lucas van Ness,

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Speaker 3: I think that's a good one. I mean you could

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Speaker 3: I think they'll all play a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and even Anthony Johnson where they got him was

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Speaker 2: But again, with them, so much depends on what happens

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Speaker 3: I adore the two tight ends they took, but I'm

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Speaker 3: Rookie tight ends aren't that scary play against?

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Speaker 1: No, Yeah, for sure, So we'll see. Number three is

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Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks. Cornerback Devin Witherspoon, wide receiver Jackson Smith, and

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Speaker 2: underrated in this draft. Running back Zach Charbonney, who pop

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Speaker 2: Offensive lineman Anthony Brad I don't know why they added

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Speaker 3: One of those interior linemen might start for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would think, I mean, nobody adjusts the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Seahawks have done a really good job the

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Speaker 3: The Russell Wilson you know, extravaganza played out, you know,

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Speaker 1: I would I would put money on that right now.

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Speaker 3: So needless to say, anyone's listening to the show. I

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Speaker 1: There's a chance.

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Speaker 2: But even if they're not starters, they're gonna play, Like

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Speaker 1: Yeah you heard it.

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Speaker 2: And I think Keanu Benton, if he's not their starting

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Speaker 1: And I think they'll have some I put it down.

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Speaker 3: Back to the nose type of conversation. Adams and Fajoco

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Speaker 3: Plays the wrong position. It's just so hard to put

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Speaker 2: Last year's NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year was a cornerback.

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Speaker 2: He saw fourteen passes in Week one, He saw sixteen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to break up passes because of his length.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think a lot of corner on ors,

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying Porters will be there, you know, ten

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The number one team on this list is another team.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers play, the Indianapolis Colts with Anthony Richardson wide receiver,

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Speaker 3: It's still better than playing against Mahomes and Kelsey.

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Speaker 3: If you're to flop, it doesn't kill you, right, or

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Speaker 2: To me, the Bears and Colt Straft classes have to

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Speaker 1: They have to the know, I mean a choice.

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Speaker 2: Detroit's kind of in the middle of that.

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Speaker 3: I'd say there's somewhere in the middle too. I was

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Speaker 3: thinking about them, you know, like everyone's raving about the

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Speaker 3: play all that much. You know, if they're struggling, we

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Speaker 3: won't play them a lot. Jordan Davis didn't play a

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Speaker 3: time as a rookie, right, you know, and they still

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Speaker 3: like them. Yeah, real quick, I've mentioned this before, but

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Speaker 3: it's back to that Russia only starting one year, Richardson

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Speaker 3: only thrown a little. Like when we filled out a

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Speaker 3: college scouting report for the draft when I was with

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Speaker 3: the Browns, the first sentence is one year starter, two

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Speaker 3: year starter, and then you start going from there. You know,

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Speaker 3: like that's a raven's thing. But I think most of

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Speaker 3: them does it that way. So it's very important. Not

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Speaker 3: everyone comes to the league with the same experience.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it tells you a lot about the players.

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Speaker 2: Like, for example, I just get done writing a big

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Speaker 2: and I didn't even realize this because COVID.

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Speaker 1: COVID screwed everything up.

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Speaker 3: I'd say, COVID in the transfers. Now, A lot of

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Speaker 3: stuff's hard to follow.

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Speaker 2: So when I was studying Nick Krbig, I looked at

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Speaker 2: his last two season like he was really productive these

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Speaker 2: last two years. I didn't realize his first year at

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin he played in every game, he started every game

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Speaker 2: as a true freshman.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: And I saw six games on there and I just

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Speaker 2: assumed that, you know, I didn't dig into it real deeply.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I think it was six or seven games, Like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he must have either he came in and you know,

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Speaker 2: got into the starting line up late, or he you know,

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Speaker 2: got hurt or something like that.

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Speaker 1: No, he started. He started every game in college that

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Speaker 1: he appeared in.

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Speaker 3: They only played six or seven games that year.

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Speaker 1: They only played six or games.

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Speaker 2: So he was an eighteen year old fresh off the

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Speaker 2: island of of you know, in Hawaii. I talked to

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Speaker 2: his mom, like, as soon as he graduated from college

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Speaker 2: or from high school, they put him on a plane

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Speaker 2: and he headed to Wisconsin, and as soon as he

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Speaker 2: set foot on campus, he was a starting linebacker for

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Speaker 2: the for the Badgers.

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Speaker 1: That matters.

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Speaker 3: That matters. And oh, by the way, the state of

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Speaker 3: Wisconsin in the state of Hawaii aren't very similar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not, and they're not close. And it had

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Speaker 2: to be some culture shocked there and.

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Speaker 3: That that's hard.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it makes it end. Oh by the way,

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Speaker 1: COVID hit then.

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Speaker 3: Oh by the way, Yeah, the world just got put

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Speaker 3: on hold too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, the nice thing about that is that his you know,

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Speaker 2: because of you know, what does mom and dad do

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Speaker 2: for a living, they were able to then move to

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Speaker 2: Madison during football season and be there with him to

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Speaker 2: kind of help him through all that stuff. But still,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's just it shows you a lot about

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Speaker 2: the player that uh, you know, they they could step

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Speaker 2: foot on as soon as they set foot on campus.

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Speaker 2: And we're not talking about starting at Central Michigan.

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Speaker 3: That's as I say, it's on a Max school. I

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Speaker 3: mean it's Wisconsin and they don't have a hard time

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Speaker 3: finding ed rushers and linebackers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they've had some good ones.

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Speaker 3: So that does say a lot. That's one of my

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Speaker 3: favorite parts about the Beast that thing puts out is

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Speaker 3: reading the background and how they got there. And this

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Speaker 3: guy had a bunch of siblings or didn't have parents

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Speaker 3: raising and you know, started as a true freshman. It's

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Speaker 3: like wow, I mean I was nothing like that as

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Speaker 3: a seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you and me both. Hey, you could subscribe now

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