1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 2 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 2: But you're a guess to my home. 3 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no guests. 4 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: Your own presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So. 5 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: How do you dare to surbey me? 6 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm pretter Winegarl. We're 7 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: in the backyard. What's happening. It's Saturday morning. I've been 8 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: to target the big target. The upper level of the 9 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: big target is probably I would say it's fifty degrees 10 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: hotter than the lower level. So if you're going to target, 11 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: just keep that in mind. That's the big target. What 12 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: else is? Oh? Actually there's there is an announcement I 13 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: need to make. I got a text this morning. It says, hello, Lucy, 14 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: please cancel my yoga class next week. I'm Eileen. Thank you. So, 15 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: if you're Lucy or II Leen, work that out between yourselves. 16 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: If that's a spam, it's an incredible attempt. I mean 17 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 3: it's actually probably the most likely to get me of 18 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: any type of spam. Lucy and I Leen all my 19 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: love to you and your yoga. Oh, let's get into 20 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: the podcast. I love today's guest. It's Maria Thayer. Maria, Yes, welcome, welcome. 21 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: To I said, no, Gi, thank you for having me. 22 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: Oh really, of course, very happy to be here. How 23 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: could I not have you? 24 00:01:59,360 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: Good point? 25 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 3: You just told me as we were walking in. Yes, 26 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: I mean you were devastatingly late. Let's just get that 27 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: out of the way. 28 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: It wouldn't make the pot yet. I did say I 29 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 4: was going to be ten minutes late, and then I 30 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: was even later than that. 31 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: You show up on a Lisa and I are in 32 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: a fight over how late you are. It was a big, 33 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 3: big problem for us. I'm sweating on a Lisa's sweating 34 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 3: or ready to cancel the recording. And then you tell 35 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: me you're coming from Montana. 36 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: I am coming from Montana. I meant to come here. 37 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 4: It's a long story. And as I also said, I'm 38 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 4: a boring guest. 39 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: So we're gonna circle back to you being boring. Let 40 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: me know, we'll keep touching in with how boring you 41 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: are throughout the show. Okay, I'll give you a rating 42 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: every ten minutes. 43 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: Who could say boring? I could say boring, You could 44 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: say boring. At least you could also. 45 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: Say a Lisa's a nice new troll on Alas has 46 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: no steaks here. 47 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 4: I my family's in Montana and I tried to get 48 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 4: back to Los Angeles yesterday. Oh huh, And I fly 49 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: on passes. My mom was a flight attendant for many years. 50 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: Oh incredible, So I always can fly. 51 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: It cost me. 52 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: It's very cheap to fly, but I'm always the last 53 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 4: person on the flight, right right, you know how stand 54 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 4: by works. 55 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: Anyway, I got my mother up. 56 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 4: All the flights were booked yesterday, but the one that's 57 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 4: left at five thirty am was not. 58 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: So I put. 59 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: Myself on that flight and I overslept, and my ninety 60 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: ninety eighty four year old mother got me up all 61 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 4: and drove me to the airport. And when I got 62 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 4: to I have a feeling. I have a when I 63 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: go to the airport, I want to be as late 64 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 4: as possible. 65 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like I don't want. 66 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: I know the different airports like JFK you have to 67 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: be forty five minutes early. Billings, Montana, you have to 68 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: be a half an hour early unless you want to 69 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: check bags, and then it's forty five minutes early. 70 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: Right, So I try to get there at forty six 71 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: minutes early thirty one minutes early. 72 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: You know, right, you don't want to spend in any 73 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: extra time now. 74 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: So I got to the airport in Billings, Montana thirty 75 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: three minutes early. 76 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 5: Oh so I was on time, sure, sure, but but 77 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 5: I found it. 78 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: Very difficult to check in on the machine. I usually 79 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: run in the machines like a maniac. 80 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 4: And so by the time I got to an agent 81 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 4: I was it was maybe twenty eight minutes early. Oh no, 82 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 4: not even early, twenty eight minutes before the. 83 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: Flight, right right, that's cutting it close. 84 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 4: I thought, well, they told me it was late, and 85 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 4: I said, well, I don't have any bags, and I could. 86 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: The Billing's airport is just a little. 87 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: Tiny slip of an airport, right, it's got it's to 88 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: get from the airport to the outside of the airport. 89 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: To your gate maybe takes five minutes. 90 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 3: This is very Burbank. 91 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: Oh Burbank, Oh Burbank. I mean, what a dream Burbank is? 92 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: Oh, Earth, heaven on Earth it is. 93 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: I can't believe that Burbank exists. 94 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: I know, it's bizarre. It feels like some glitch in reality. 95 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: It really still an airport. 96 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: That's that's there's some pitch in there somewhere. I don't 97 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: know what it is. 98 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: It's a time. 99 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: It's InCred of all Burbank, Burbank. Yeah, it's incredible. 100 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 4: And I was flying into Burbank actually, so I was 101 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 4: going from magical airport to magical airport. But the people 102 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 4: at Billings Airport, they are extremely serious people, Like they 103 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 4: have the most intense security I've ever seen on any interesting, 104 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 4: anywhere airplane. I used to fly around with a little 105 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 4: pocket knife in my bag, and nobody would ever say 106 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: anything to me about it. Like go through JFK, you know, 107 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: go to like, you know, fly to a different country, 108 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 4: No one whatever, say what is this pocket knife? Billy's Montana, Billy. 109 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: No one would ever do anything there. 110 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: It is, It's nothing. 111 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 4: They always they took my pocket knife twice, and so 112 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 4: finally I just said, I'm not going to have a 113 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 4: pocket knife anymore. How is it girls supposed to defend 114 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 4: herself without her pocket knife? 115 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 3: Wittle down on a piece of wood, all of these sort 116 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 3: of things. 117 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: Yes, why this, this lady's this. This lady said. 118 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: You're too late, And I said, well, I said, I said, 119 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 4: oh come on, I could just be there right now. 120 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 4: I'm uh And I said please radio and then ask them, 121 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 4: and she did that thing where you do when I 122 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 4: have done, when I have worked at a job, They're like, 123 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 4: it's too late to have another person on the front. 124 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: Yes, yes she. 125 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: Did that, and they were like, yeah, it's too late. 126 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: Was like, it can't be. And I stood there because 127 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: I just I was incredulous. 128 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: I just stood there. 129 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 4: But I knew that I had no power and like 130 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 4: I couldn't. I was flying on a non red pass. 131 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: Didn't I couldn't make a. 132 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: Fuss, right, technically A customer a customer. 133 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: So I just stood there for like what felt like 134 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 4: thirty seconds but probably was ten seconds, and then I 135 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 4: just said, okay. 136 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: All that, and then I went Oh, I went home. 137 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 4: I went home, and then the next morning I came 138 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 4: this morning, Yeah, I came, same lady. 139 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: Oh, no, same lady. Has you changed her attitude? 140 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: No, she did it. 141 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 4: I smiled at her, but I made sure that I 142 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 4: checked it before so we didn't have to have we 143 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: didn't have to speak to each other. 144 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: But I did smile at her, and she did not 145 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: smile it. She looked scared of me. 146 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: I will tell you the truth. Well, she knew that 147 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: you had something on her. At this point that you 148 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: could and may have a pocket knife to take your revenge. 149 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: So the initial one was your mom just idling outside 150 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 3: the airport. 151 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: Yes, she knew. 152 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 4: God, I had a feeling that this was going to 153 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 4: be a bad situation, so I said, just wait for 154 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 4: my mom. And we live right by the airport and Billings, 155 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 4: so it's very short. So the flight left at six 156 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 4: forty and we were both back in bed by six 157 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: twenty two. 158 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: Oh so you were able to get some more sleep. Yes, 159 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: that's all that I care about. 160 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: Yes, no, me too. That's really How much sleep do 161 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: you get a night? 162 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: I get roughly eight to nine hours? 163 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: Yes, meat, do you two? I mean, how lazy and 164 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: lucky are we? 165 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: Very fortunate? 166 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: But we live so close to Burbank. We get eight 167 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: to nine hours of sleep every day. 168 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god, what more could we ask? 169 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: Truly? 170 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: True? Truly, that's true. I have to I need to 171 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: start my gratitude chart or whatever they have. Those will 172 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: be the first two things. But I'll tell you what 173 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: if it's If it's less than eight hours, I am 174 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: hell on earth. I am a nightmare, horrible person. I 175 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: can't my body cannot handle less than eight hours of sleep. 176 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: So what do you do when you have like a 177 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: five hour a die? 178 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: I'm nauseous, I'm mad, Oh so nauseous. 179 00:08:58,679 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: Does coffee help? 180 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: I mean, of course it helps a little Yeah, it 181 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: helps a little bit, but like only for a minute, 182 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: and then I'm back into a bad mood and I'm 183 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: of course like making drama out of it and blaming everybody. 184 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 3: Everyone's my enemy. So what about you? Are you okay? 185 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 4: No, I'm lovely, of course you No, I don't know. 186 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. 187 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: I think I am lovely because I just have to be. 188 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: I'm just like, I'm having enough guts to be a jerk, like. 189 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: Either do I. But that's that's how bad it is 190 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: for me. I mean just chemically, I'm an absolute mess 191 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 3: without eight hours of sleep. 192 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 4: Do you when you have to get up at like 193 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 4: five in the morning, I don't know, like like I 194 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: did this morning? 195 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: Did do you? Can you go to sleep at a 196 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: normal time? I mean, so you can get. 197 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: No, Yeah, it's like I'm still going to bed at midnight, 198 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,359 Speaker 3: you know, yes. 199 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 4: And knowing that you have to get up makes me 200 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: not have to want to go to sleep because I'm 201 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 4: just like I just have. 202 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: To get up anyway of course. 203 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, as well stay up the rest of my life getting. 204 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 3: Up, I'll be you awake for two straight weeks and 205 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 3: die and that'll be the end of it for me. Wow. 206 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 3: So you were but you were on a flight this 207 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: morning and you were at the Billings airport at what 208 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: five am? 209 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: No, that would have been too late. 210 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 4: Oh sorry, said I said six to forty, but I 211 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: meant five thirty. Yeah, okay, right, sorry, Yeah, I guess 212 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: I'm not quite there. And so that I had to 213 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 4: come back and I had to walk my dog, my 214 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 4: dog that the person takes care of my dog loves 215 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: my dog too much and just lets her do whatever 216 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 4: she wants. 217 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: So then she's always just like a. 218 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: Oh a menace. 219 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: She's a menace. 220 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: She's like stopped obeying the rules from exactly. 221 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: It's what they dog traders call it, titled. 222 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: Oh it's very entitled. Yes, a temporary entitle. Yes, you'll 223 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: have to wean her off. Yeah. Basically what kind of 224 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: dog is she? 225 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: She's a dog. 226 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 4: Small, large, she's too large for me, but I love her. 227 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 4: She's not the dog I would have picked out, but 228 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: I that's the dog I got. I love her so much. 229 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: The case fifty pounds. 230 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: Oh, I love that. 231 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 2: Let's have my size. 232 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 3: That's I'm trying to compete here, that's my same weight. 233 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: I'm trying to lose a few get down to forty. 234 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: Everyone pray for my weight loss journey. I mean, I 235 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: still have time to get into a swimsuit by the 236 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 3: end of the summer at forty pounds. 237 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: I laugh a lot. I love to laugh. You have 238 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: to know that. 239 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: Please apologize for laughing. 240 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: I really love to laugh. 241 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: Let me ask you about this pocket knife. I wanted 242 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: to circle back. Sure, what were you doing with the 243 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: pocket knife? What do you mean, like, what situations where 244 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: you're finding yourself in where you're like ook time to 245 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 3: pull out the pocket knife and use it. 246 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: You'd be surprised, of course. Uh, I don't remember. 247 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: But it's just nice to have one because like you 248 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 4: can use the tip of it to like, you know, 249 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 4: like right now, I could carve my name into. 250 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: This the table. 251 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 3: You were using it for vandalism. Your life is a vandal. 252 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 2: They took it away from. 253 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 3: You were carving your name into an airport seat. No, 254 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 3: that's that's an actually extremely valid reason to have a 255 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: pocket knife. 256 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: Works you find once you have one You're like, how 257 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 2: did I ever live without this? 258 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 3: Was it like a Swiss army knife did have a 259 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: bunch of it was just. 260 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 4: Like it was a little I mean truly, if I 261 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 4: had gone crazy on a plane and tried to hurt people, 262 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 4: I don't know where gonna hurt it was it never could. 263 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: Like even if they just laid there let me stab. 264 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 4: Them, it would could never have killed anybody. 265 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: It was very small. It was like, you know, an 266 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: inch and a half blade? 267 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: Which blade? 268 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 4: But I'm like someone that like my dad is a 269 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 4: big is a big you know, he's a Montana guy, 270 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 4: and like he and so a lot of for a 271 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: lot of my major birthdays or not even major birthdays, 272 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: he would give me a gun. 273 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: Wow, what sort of guns? Well? 274 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 4: I had a twenty two and then I had a 275 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 4: thirty eight special wow for when I got a car. 276 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: And then so to keep myself to keep carjackers away. 277 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 3: How many carjackers did you keep away? Never? 278 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: Never, not a single one? 279 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 3: Killed fifty carjackers. 280 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 4: And then when I when I when I got into 281 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: college in New York City, he gave me a derringer 282 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 4: pistol to keep it my purse. 283 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: What a little one shot Darringer. 284 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: That is incredible. 285 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, none of these guns made it anywhere. Like they didn't. 286 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: I didn't. 287 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: You didn't. It didn't get to New York. No. 288 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: I mean I think that the I think I'm not 289 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 4: sure about this, but I think that one of the reasons, 290 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 4: besides it'd been crazy that I would definitely like shoot 291 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 4: myself in the foot. 292 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: We're on the same page here, is. 293 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 4: That I think if you don't have a registered your 294 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 4: gun is a registered York which is hard to get. 295 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: It's like a year in prison minimum. Like, I would 296 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: just end up in prison. 297 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: There's nothing in the world I want more than for 298 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: you to end up in prison because someone found you 299 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 3: with a gun in New York. 300 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: Don't put that out there. 301 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 3: Incredible thing for you. 302 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: What a career movie. 303 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 3: A one shot so it just has one bullet in it. 304 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to be like, somebody's got to be 305 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: very close. It's for rape. Oh, I mean, not to rape. 306 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 4: Someone to if someone's got to be close enough that 307 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 4: I don't know. 308 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: I'm sorry that I brought up rapes And that's such 309 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: a beautiful morning. I won't I do that again. Guns, guns, knives, 310 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: This is incredible. 311 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 3: It's called the darringer, darringer. 312 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 4: You never heard that daringer like the like you know, 313 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: Ma Moyle? 314 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about? Do you know what 315 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: I'm saying right now? 316 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: I actually am not the way I'm tracking. This is 317 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 3: not a. 318 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 4: Gun related because it's like a A is a foreskin? Yes, no, 319 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 4: that's not that's not Oh and I brought up foreskin? 320 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: What keep going re association a mole a spy? Is 321 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: that what we're getting? 322 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: Gangsters? Oil? 323 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: Oh? A gangster's foreskin. Every gangster's foreskin carries a denger. 324 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. Okay, is showing us a Derringer, which 325 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: is an incredible gun? Is that this isn't? No? 326 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: I just meant like, no, that's that's mine. 327 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 4: Was pink. 328 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: This is incredible. 329 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: You have to carry it. Just don't have a bullet 330 00:15:54,080 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: in it. Please, it got still, it got stock car. 331 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: Oh No, so that has been used for murder. Someone's 332 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 3: been killed with your pink derringer. How do you feel? 333 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. People's people mostly stabbed. I don't know. 334 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. Uh, you know, that's their business. 335 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, how you want to murder someone as your business? 336 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: I'm not going to be nosey and poke around. How 337 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 3: you're killing people, I don't know. 338 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 4: There's the down from my dad's house. There used to 339 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 4: be a meth like a few houses down used to 340 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 4: be a meth lab. 341 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: I guess, I'm sure. 342 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 4: And we once left the door unlocked, and I guess 343 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 4: some people came in, but they didn't steal very much. 344 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: They just stole. They everyone at that point. 345 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: A lot of there was my we I had some 346 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 4: uncles and aunts staying there too, so there was a 347 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 4: lot of people that were in the that had their 348 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 4: stuff in the house. 349 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: And this story is crazy. 350 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 4: But anyway, when we came back, people had like someone 351 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 4: had like lost their curling iron lost there. So these 352 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 4: people just came in and just like just a few 353 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 4: things that they needed, like you would go to a 354 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 4: target or something. They didn't but they didn't steal like 355 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 4: the things that. 356 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 3: Like the weapons and the money. 357 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the money. The weapons of the money, we 358 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: have a lot of those. 359 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 3: They got into the vault. Where are you from, Utah? 360 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 3: Tracking I mean, I've been to Montana, I've been to Wyoming, 361 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 3: all of these states, Idaho, so I'm familiar with this 362 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: sort of culture on some level. 363 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 4: I was in Utah this morning. You had to stop 364 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 4: their sal Salt Lake City is Salt Lake City. The 365 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 4: airport is is besides Burbank. That's a really wonderful airport, 366 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 4: don't you think the new one? Yeah, the new one? 367 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 3: What because this airport actually has gone a lot of 368 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 3: mixed reviews. 369 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 2: Oh really interesting. 370 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 4: Well the food is fantastic, a lot of food and 371 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 4: it's very reasonably priced. 372 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 3: What what did you eat? Well? 373 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: Nothing today? 374 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: But uh, usually they have some place that they just 375 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 4: it's one of those you know that sore lemonade that 376 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 4: restaurant lead It used to be at Lax. 377 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: It's like lemonade, but it's in Utah. 378 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: Oh okay. 379 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: But they you know, they have uh I don't know. 380 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: They had a BF Chang's. 381 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 3: Is that a BF Changs? 382 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: Oh? 383 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: Well, they had a BF Chang. 384 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 3: That's the knockoff. I believe that would be in the 385 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 3: solid airport BF check mister Cheng's son Brandon. But they 386 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 3: do have they've like I mean, it is compared to 387 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: the old solid airport such a it feels so metropolitan 388 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 3: and I mean. 389 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: But it doesn't it doesn't have those smoking vegetable bules. 390 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: It does remember those. 391 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course those were those little like terrariums 392 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 3: that you got to smoke in. 393 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: I loved it. 394 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 3: It's such a bizarre We're putting. 395 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 2: Our foot down and you can smoke. You have to 396 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 2: go outside. 397 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,239 Speaker 3: The weirdest possible. What airline are you flying into Salt Lake? 398 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: Now? 399 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 3: This is, I think is what Delta? Okay, see that 400 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 3: makes sense people if you fly Delta, because I was 401 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: flying southwest into salt Lake, southwest into salt Lake for 402 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: a period and there you had to essentially walk four 403 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 3: miles to get to the parking after that, and I 404 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 3: think people are freaking out about that. 405 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: Oh I don't, I don't. I never leave the airport. 406 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just popping in, popping out. So I think 407 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: the walking is what was really getting out people. 408 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 2: It is just it is just a straight line. 409 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 3: Yeah right. 410 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like it used to be like terminal 411 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 4: like a line within terminals out. 412 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: I don't know, no, this now it just feels like 413 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: it's almost just like extremely long. 414 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: It's probably good. 415 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 4: For people that have shops there because they're like, everyone 416 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 4: who goes to the airport goes past my. 417 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 3: Shop A lot of yeah, a lot. When you're working retail, 418 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 3: you've got to have those eyes. You've got to have 419 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: people looking in. There are a lot of retail stores 420 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: there that are like no one absolutely known as buying 421 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 3: a bag. This is salt Lake City on it, you know, 422 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 3: like a beautiful person. It's just that sort of thing. 423 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 3: It just feels like it's an illusion at a hologram. 424 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 3: No one's going in those stores. Yes, yeah, but salt 425 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: Lake you flew in for just a moment, a moment. 426 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I Yes. 427 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 4: Salt Lake City is also my like nightmare airport in 428 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 4: some ways because I always get stuck there. Oh like 429 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 4: during the pandemic, I got stuck there. 430 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 3: For how long? 431 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: For like five days? Ah, and I it was it 432 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: was I. 433 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 4: Was going to Montana and this is I was going 434 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 4: back home to Montana. But I was working during the 435 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 4: day on Zoom, so I couldn't fly during the day. 436 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: I only cold flight night. 437 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 4: So I flew into cet Lake City, got stuck there. 438 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 4: They canceled the flight and so I got stuck there. 439 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 4: Would never have flown if I didn't know that there 440 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: was seats on this light. Stuck there, and then I 441 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: had to get a hotel room and I did have 442 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 4: a car. Salt Lake City did not have it together 443 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 4: at that point, and they probably do now, I'm sure. 444 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 2: But called postmates and it would take like an hour 445 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: and a half. Oh, truly, it was crazy. And I 446 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: was in one of those airport. It was it was 447 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 2: a very it was dark time. 448 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 3: Oh. I mean for the world, what hotel you're staying at? 449 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 3: Just some airport? 450 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: Hotel port hotel? 451 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 3: Oh? Five days of that is prison. 452 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 2: It was prison. 453 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 3: Wow? 454 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: But whatever, you know, I got eight hours of sleep, 455 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: So what could you know? And Burbank still existed, so you. 456 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 3: Knew everything continued to exist, you know. Yeah, and you've 457 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 3: got a story out of it for a podcast? What 458 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: more could you ask for? 459 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: Story? But sure I could. I should these a little work, 460 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: but workshop. Yeah. 461 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 3: Do you think that the Billings Airport security is so 462 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 3: strong because of the unibomber? Do you think that because 463 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 3: isn't that where he was living? 464 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 4: Yes, he was living. He uh, he's from Montana. Ted 465 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 4: Kazinski should say his name, he doesn't, but he uh. 466 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe they're like, we don't want another ten. 467 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: People are probably mixed on if they like him or not. 468 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 3: There Oh, that's true, because he did have there was 469 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: some of that manifesto was kind of like, if you 470 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 3: lean far right enough or whatever into enough conspiracies, you 471 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 3: can get on board with Ted. 472 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 4: It's crazy that the New York isn't in the New 473 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 4: York Times published manifesto. 474 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 5: That's insane, But we're all better for it. 475 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: We all learned some importance. 476 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: It's really screwed up. 477 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 3: He got published. 478 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: He got published on the front page of the Time. 479 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 3: I don't I can't speak to you, but I have 480 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 3: never been published in the Times either. Maybe we need 481 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 3: to move to Montana getting some more interesting ideas. He died. 482 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 3: I think he died recently, all. 483 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: Right, But but in prison, Yes, yes. 484 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 3: Caught him, They trapped him. 485 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: Yes, his brother I think turned him and noticed that 486 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 4: his language sounded like, oh, that sounds like my my brother. 487 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,959 Speaker 3: Can you imagine reading that and being like, hmm, this guy. 488 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 3: I've gotten letters like this before. Wow, what a betrayal 489 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: it is? 490 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 4: It is there There are also you. You run into 491 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 4: a lot of Ted Kazinski's in Montana. You know, they're 492 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 4: they're rapid, there's isolation. They're not like probably Harvard I 493 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 4: think he was like Harvard educated, am I education or something? 494 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 3: Right? He was like highly intelligent, right, but just yeah, 495 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 3: an we. 496 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: Say that though they always say like like that. 497 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 4: Guy from Ida home a Moscow, Idaho. 498 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: You know, the guy who killed the ladies and the 499 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 2: man in the in the college. 500 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 3: Oh, that's pretty recent. Yeah, he was supposed to be. 501 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: Like he's so smart. Fun seem that smart. 502 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 3: I mean he's like he was like, what was his plan? 503 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 2: Yeah he didn't not that. 504 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 3: It's just a smart nerd. That was mad. 505 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: I don't who know, who knows. 506 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 3: And then he got caught. He drove to Pennsylvania or something, right, 507 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 3: he got. 508 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: Caught for doing like everything. I mean, it's hard to 509 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 2: murder people nowadays. 510 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 3: You can't murder anyone anymore. 511 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: No, you can't. 512 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: Well, I think I think we do need to talk 513 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 3: about something else. Okay, there's something I do need to 514 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: speak to you about. Unfortunately, I was looking forward to 515 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 3: having you here on the podcast today, despite you telling 516 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 3: me over and over I'm boring, I'm boring, I'm boring. 517 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 3: So far I'm giving you like a fifty out of ten. 518 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 3: I mean all sorts of you. 519 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: We see, that's no past. 520 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 3: No, that's a D fifty out of ten. Now you 521 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 3: get an f. No, you were five hundred percent. You're 522 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 3: you're killing it. I mean, we're finding out about the 523 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: pocket knife, trying to sneaking pocket knives onto planes, guns, 524 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 3: I mean, life of crime, methadics, stealing, curling irons. All 525 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: of our other guests are failures at this point. But 526 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 3: you know, I was looking forward to having your here today. 527 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 3: I was really excited to talk to you. 528 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: I was excited to talk to you too. 529 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 3: So I was a little surprised, because, of course the 530 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 3: podcast is called I said no gifts. I was a 531 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 3: little thrown when you came kind of skipping into my 532 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: backyard holding what could not be more clearly a gift, 533 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 3: beautifully wrapped. 534 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: Is beautifully wrapped. 535 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 4: I'm going to need that garbage that garbage bag back. Actually, 536 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 4: I don't like wasting a garbage bag. 537 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: I'm giving. I'm making sure you take that home with you. Well, 538 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: shall I open this gift here on the podcast? You okay? So, 539 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, it is just it's gorgeously wrapped in 540 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: a garbage bag, beautiful, obviously new garbage bag. I'm going 541 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: to reach it. 542 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: It smell the garbage book bag smells good, doesn't it. 543 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: No, it's lightly scented, lightly scented. It's not like a 544 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 3: gross scent where it's not fruit or something. It's just 545 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 3: kind of lightly perfumed. Is that on purpose? 546 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: I asked the garbage bag company get in touch. 547 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm pulling this out, pulling Oh now there's another bag. 548 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 3: Oh I love this bag too. It's a blue bag 549 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 3: that says youth dynamic. 550 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: You can keep that bag. 551 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: I'm through it. Where did this come from? 552 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 553 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: Incredible youth dynamics. 554 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: This is my new bags, cobwebs on it. Thank you 555 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: for not mentioning that. 556 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 3: Okay, whoa, Oh my god? What weight? I mean? I'm 557 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 3: beyond baffled at what I'm looking at. Okay, so it's 558 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: like to describe what I'm looking at. It's a wood. 559 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: It's a piece of wood with a spider currently crawling 560 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: on it. Now, let's just take a look at that spider. 561 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to get it. 562 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: Does it does? 563 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 3: So, there is a spider. I don't even know what 564 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 3: to do with it. Should I release it to the garden. 565 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: I'll blow it away so it doesn't die. It'll find 566 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 3: its way somewhere. Welcome to the backyard. Okay. So it's 567 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 3: a piece of wood with a piece of styrofoam tape 568 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 3: to it, and then it it seems to be some 569 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: sort of state fair project. Yes, okay, and then okay, 570 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 3: this is okay, So this piece has fallen off. This 571 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: is Maria thay or Billings, Montana, out of state. Oh 572 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 3: and there's also a it appears there's this is your 573 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 3: boarding past? 574 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 2: Yes? 575 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 3: Is that today's boarding past? 576 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 2: So that's from another fight, but you can have that. 577 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 3: Where were you headed this time? I've still saw like 578 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 3: the city somewhere. Okay, So we'll keep this. I'll try 579 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 3: to kind of farm some information from this and take 580 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: advantage of your life. Okay. So again it says Maria 581 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 3: fay Billings, Montana, out of state, class twenty one, out 582 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 3: of state resident. Okay, so you flew in from LA 583 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: to try to win a prize at the state fair? 584 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: Is that what I'm seeing? 585 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 4: So yes, I there, this is the At the Minnesota 586 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 4: State Fair. There is something called crop art, and I 587 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: frequently compete. 588 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: And this is my last year's entry. 589 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 3: Okay. Now tell me about this piece of art, because 590 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 3: there's this another thing. 591 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 4: Do you think that that this is the this is 592 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 4: the art? Do you think this is the art. Yes, No, 593 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 4: you have to open this more. 594 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 5: Oh oh my god, Oh my god, I'm going to 595 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 5: take a picture of what I thought was. 596 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 2: The art than me thinking. 597 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 3: I assume this is how oh my god, it felt 598 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 3: very outsider art. We'll just say that it felt to 599 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 3: say there. 600 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 2: Is this Alma guard. 601 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 4: I thought, first of all, you're so generous, like this 602 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 4: is hideous. 603 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 2: And if you you. 604 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 4: That, you were immediately like get out of my backyard. 605 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: Just shows that you are a wonderful person. 606 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 3: Like really truly, I was trying to make sense of. 607 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: This human being in a wonderful host. 608 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 5: No, that's not that art folk artist, you know. Okay, 609 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 5: So I need to open this, Yes you do? Okay, 610 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 5: So I mean right now, it's like a piece of 611 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 5: syrophone with a piece of I'm going to tell you. 612 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: Can I tell you this before before? 613 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: Are you o? Bit? 614 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 4: So I try to do this every year. I don't 615 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 4: do it every year because I love the Minnesota State Fair. 616 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 4: I used to live in Minnesota. 617 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: Okay, oh okay, And now let me just clarify because 618 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: I kept thinking you're saying Minnesota. You're from Billings, Montana. 619 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 3: Clarify this. 620 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: So it's very hard for me to like, do any 621 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: you know, finish a project. My best friend. 622 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 4: Is loves the subject of this, of this thing, and 623 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 4: so I was like, I'm going to make you a 624 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 4: thing of your of. 625 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: Your fair person. 626 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 3: Oh sure, sure. 627 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: So I send her. 628 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 4: Pictures and she was always like, you know, and I 629 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 4: could tell you she just wasn't like into it right 630 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 4: and it's not really her style. 631 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 3: You know. 632 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: Her house is like animal print and like and this 633 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: is like, this is the thing. So when I was 634 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: thinking about this podcast, I was like, what, what what 635 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: can I. 636 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 4: Bring that will be So I was like, maybe i'll 637 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 4: you know, she hasn't she has it's but a year 638 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 4: and she hasn't mentioned it. 639 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 2: So I texted her yesterday I said, Hey, I'm gonna 640 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: can I bring this this podcast? Never heard from her? 641 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: What is that even supposed to me? 642 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 4: I think it just means that she doesn't want it, 643 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 4: and she doesn't want to say I don't want it. 644 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 3: Well, this person needs to start speaking up for herself anyway. 645 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: Anyway, open it. 646 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna open it up. Okay, and let's say 647 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: you did win fourth prize. 648 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: I did it in my category. 649 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm peeling the tape off here, and does this 650 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 3: other thing taped to it have anything to do or 651 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 3: is it just the medium? This was? 652 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 4: In order to compete, you had to tell what seed 653 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 4: you used. 654 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 3: Oh, okay, that's incredible. So you're using all kinds of 655 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: celery seed, flax seed, something called al car. 656 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: Yes, that's a yes. 657 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 4: I had to go to a seed like emporium Wow 658 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 4: in Montana to get that. 659 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: Roughly like nine different things. 660 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 4: You don't use, you used, you can use illegal seeds, 661 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 4: and then you get docked. 662 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: Oh have done interesting? You're allowed to but acknowledge technology. 663 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: Cheatah. 664 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 3: Yes, it's a good idea for any competition. Feel free 665 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 3: to cheat, but you will lose. Okay, let's let's see 666 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: if this is trying to be careful here. Oh my god, 667 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 3: it says murder. It's Angela Lansberry made it entirely out 668 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 3: of seeds, and it says murder seed rote how your 669 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,479 Speaker 3: friend has horrible taste. 670 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 5: Your friend's a loser. Make sure I'm going to fight 671 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 5: fight with her. I'm attacking her. She's low character, low taste, 672 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 5: and low character. 673 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: This is beautiful. This one fourth prize? 674 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, out of five? 675 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 3: What one? Number one? 676 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: Somewhere some piece of trash. I don't remember. This is 677 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: not very I don't think that this is very good. Actually, 678 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: are you talking better than this? This is she looks 679 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: a little I don't know. 680 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 3: I think that this is gorgeous. She's holding a magnifying glass. 681 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: She's out to find out who killed, and you've got 682 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: her hair perfect. It looks I mean, I wouldn't even 683 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: need the murder Seed wrote to know that that was 684 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 3: Angela Lansback. 685 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: I just thought it was hilarious joke. 686 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 3: It's a great joke. 687 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: I co would think instead of she I turned into seed. 688 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 3: You know, really, how long did this takes a make. 689 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 4: I don't know, not too long, maybe ten fifteen hours, 690 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 4: I don't know. 691 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: Okay, over the course of several weeks. Yeah, and okay, So, 692 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 3: how like, I'm so curious how this sort of thing 693 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 3: even comes together? Do you draw her? Do you like 694 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 3: print out a picture and just cover it with seeds? 695 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 3: How does this hand? 696 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 4: I think I printed out a picture and then I 697 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 4: painted it, and then I covered it with seeds. 698 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: And there's different ways. There's there's a lady what's her name, 699 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: Lillian Colton. She's the seed Queen of Minnesota. Okay, she's dead. 700 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 3: Okay, Lillian consider think about it. 701 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: But anyway, she her portraits. She does beautiful portraits with seeds. Okay, 702 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 2: so she has a way of doing it where that's 703 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 2: what I was gonna say. 704 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 4: That technique is that you put a bunch of Elmer's 705 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 4: glue and you use a toothpick and you just go 706 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 4: from Elmer's glue, pick up a seed and then put 707 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 4: it on by one. 708 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: One by one. But I don't do that. That's why 709 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: I only get fourth place. I just dumped the seeds 710 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 2: on with some glue. I mean these I did, but 711 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 2: like a lot of these. I just like this. Dump 712 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 2: dump dump dump. 713 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 3: You know, there are certain areas where it's just such 714 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 3: a giant space that doesn't need a lot of details. 715 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 2: Lily and probably wouldn't would would not dumb. 716 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 3: She'd be serious with this, Yes she would be. 717 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 4: But when you're competing out of state, there's not many 718 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 4: weirdos that send in their seed art. 719 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 3: So you do mail this to them. 720 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mail it. 721 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: You have to don't go, I go. 722 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 2: They have to get it before the fair starts. So 723 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: you mail it to them with also postage to get 724 00:33:59,600 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: it back. 725 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 3: Okay, self address stamped envelope. 726 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: Yes, stam do envelope. 727 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 4: And then so I went to the fair this time 728 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 4: to see it in person, okay, and to like stand 729 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 4: next to it and tell people this is mine, right, 730 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 4: And then. 731 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 3: There's your moment. Yes you needed the spotlight at the 732 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 3: Minnesota sat. 733 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 2: It's sad, but it's it's incredible, so true and uh yeah, 734 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: so that's that's what happened. 735 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 3: So how did the fair? How did you become aware 736 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 3: of the fair? What was the first time you read? 737 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 4: I was also grew up in Minnesota, Okay, so I 738 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 4: would go to the state fair and then I just, 739 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 4: I don't know, I just started loving the crop art. 740 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 4: I tried to buy one of Lilian's pictures of Tom 741 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 4: Selleck one. Oh oh it's so good, but she refused 742 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 4: to sell. 743 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 3: Wow, and she really has some standards, she really does. 744 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: She's doing it clearly for the seed. 745 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: Yes, there's a book called The Seed Queen about her. 746 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 3: Oh, you look very confused. You're not sure if it 747 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 3: just sounded dirty queen? Sure that it was seeking? Yeah, 748 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 3: I mean it's not the perfect title. A Crop Queen 749 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 3: could have done just as well, truly, but truly thing. 750 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 4: Yes, So I didn't do one this year, but I've 751 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 4: done one the last couple of years. I did a 752 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 4: Colombo one for my brother. 753 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 3: Oh fantastic. Do you only do murder mystery? 754 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 2: No, I just recently. 755 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 4: I'll just do for people I love, even if they 756 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 4: don't want it, I will make something for them because 757 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 4: then I will finish it. 758 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 3: What a lovely gift. Did your brother appreciate it? He did? 759 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 3: He framed his Okay, So again, when we talk about 760 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 3: your friend, I would just think about her where she 761 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 3: stands in your life. She's no friend of mine. 762 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 2: My brother's more aesthetically like me. 763 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 3: Okay, and your friend, I. 764 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 2: Don't even know what you're asthetic is? 765 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 3: This might this is perfect, this is my this is 766 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 3: going in the I said no gifts gallery. What was 767 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 3: the first one you ever did? 768 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 2: What did I do? I did Eisenhower? Wow? No, I 769 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: did a walter Mondale. I think I did a walter 770 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: Mondale because Minnesota. I want to win right now. Yeah, 771 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 2: you're only wait per place in my life that I'm competitive. 772 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 3: Actually, tell you the truth, it's a healthy place to 773 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 3: be competitive. I think I've. 774 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 2: Never gotten the blue. But I often they want you 775 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 2: to do something. 776 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 4: It's like a kitchy, very liberal section of the popcast. 777 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, so if you. 778 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 4: Want to do if like you know a Minnesota politician, 779 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 4: I did, Al Franken, Okay, sure, that was my best one. 780 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: That was This is pre right. 781 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 3: I was gonna ask what point in history was al? 782 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 2: You know, Al didn't want his either. 783 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 3: Oh. Interesting, Well, I mean that was an early red flag. 784 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say, you know whatever, Al, But. 785 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 2: But that album was the best one I did. 786 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 3: It was the best one. Yeah. What prize did you win? 787 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: Third? Third? 788 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 789 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 2: That one? I had illegal seeds? 790 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 3: Oh what was the illegal seed rice? What other illegal 791 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 3: seeds are they? 792 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 2: I guess any seed that doesn't grow in Minnesota is illegal. 793 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 3: Okay, and but this one that we're currently looking looking 794 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 3: at is all legal, I think. 795 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 5: So. 796 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. I did not use any poppy seeds. That's also 797 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 2: a minus. 798 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 3: Okay. 799 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. 800 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 3: What have been some of the big winners of the 801 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 3: past years. Do you can you remember any. 802 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 2: There was a beautiful Lincoln Boring, very boring. They have 803 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 2: prizes for everything. 804 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 4: It's it's there's like you can cover a shoe and 805 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 4: that's like with seeds, and that's like in a different category. 806 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 2: Okay, there's best scarecrows. 807 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 3: Scarecrow is made of seed. 808 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 2: No, this is, but it's in the same building. It's 809 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 2: the cop art building. You really should go. 810 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 3: All of your listeners incredible, but let's all go. Somebody 811 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 3: should be making I mean, pause the podcast and begin 812 00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 3: making one of me. Right now. We'll hold a bridge 813 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 3: fair and we'll judge all of the different seed versions 814 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 3: of me. 815 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 2: You amazing. 816 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 3: If I don't see one within the next six months, 817 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 3: I'm canceling the podcast. I will blame every listener, and 818 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 3: then I'll blame you the chain of blame. Well, this 819 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 3: is such a beautiful hobby. And do you think you'll 820 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 3: do one this coming year? 821 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 2: No, I don't. 822 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 4: I would have to really throw it together because I 823 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 4: think they're due in two weeks or something. Oh okay, 824 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 4: for this current year, I could, yes, but I don't 825 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 4: have an idea. 826 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 2: No ideas well. 827 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty five, yes, sort thinking now all for sure? 828 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 2: Do one for twenty twenty five? 829 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 3: Who were some famous people from Minnesota but fun. 830 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 2: Who were fine? 831 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 832 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 2: God, I'm only thinking Garrison Keeler Garrison. 833 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,439 Speaker 3: That's been done right. 834 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 2: Also, I think that he got in trouble. 835 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 3: Oh, that's right. All of these kind of interesting as 836 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 3: men over sixty. You know, they've all got something going on. 837 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 4: You know what I want to do it? Also as 838 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 4: a friend of as a friend of mine is Anne Kim. 839 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 4: She's a chef from Minnesota. She was on I don't 840 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 4: know if you ever go look at chef's table or 841 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 4: watch it. 842 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 3: I've been looking at TV so in the night, looking 843 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 3: at television. Oh so does she have a restaurant in Minnesota? 844 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, she has a few, and she she's a pizza 845 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 4: one but she's a James Beard Award where Anyway, I thought, oh, 846 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 4: I'll just make one for Anne, But I don't know 847 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 4: if Anne would like one. 848 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 3: Either, I know. And then you start getting into some 849 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 3: territory where like is it going to affect the relationship? 850 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 4: Yes, like maybe my friend they start to feel weird 851 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 4: about each other. Y. 852 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't feel weird, but I hope. 853 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 3: That you you feel weird. You definitely feel weird. Your 854 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 3: friend has crossed a boundary in a way that's going 855 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 3: to ruin this friendship. I guarantee it. And Kim okay, 856 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 3: but yeah, Jessicat when you get into personal it gets 857 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 3: a little tricky, Yes, And I can't think of a 858 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 3: single person from Minnesota. 859 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 4: Oh, Coen Brothers, Judy Garland, Garland, Paul Westerberg, all of 860 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 4: who's whoskerd. 861 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 3: That's a great one'd be thrilled. 862 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 2: Frank Sinatra, No. 863 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 3: Frank Sat from Minnesota's gonna say, what what a fraud? 864 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 3: That would be thinking? What how did I fall for that? 865 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 2: Joe Phi, Robert DeNiro mean. 866 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 3: The Queen of England. Well, I'm going to start brainstorming 867 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 3: people for you to make out of seed. I'll send 868 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 3: you a list of people. 869 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 2: Love that, because love that I need ideas. 870 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 3: We've got to get somebody to get you. Is this 871 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 3: the like the typical size? It's like basically. 872 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 2: No, you could. You can as big as as small 873 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 2: as you. 874 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 3: But as far as you as like, have you made 875 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 3: a bigger one. 876 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 2: Than bigger than that? I think that's a smlest one 877 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,280 Speaker 2: I've made. Oh interesting, Yeah, that's the most petite. 878 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 3: What's the largest? 879 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 2: I don't know what our size is? 880 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 3: I guess agree that's I ask myself that all the time. 881 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 3: No spatial reasoning skills whatsoever. 882 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 2: No, So somewhere between three feet and ten feet. 883 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 3: High, fifty miles okay, so but you've made like a large. 884 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the Al Franklin was pretty large. 885 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 3: Oh okay, what a shame? 886 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, what a shame. 887 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 3: Where do we stand with Al Frankin at this point? 888 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 2: Well, you know, people love him again. 889 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 4: And I I but he but people are like, oh, 890 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 4: he just made a joke about somebody's you know he 891 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 4: did that that picture right. It wasn't just that I 892 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 4: tried to kiss someone in a podcast. Like if I had, 893 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 4: like tried to kiss you, can you imagine how much. 894 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 3: How much anything goes? And I said, no, guess Maria's 895 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 3: coming towards me, like I'm backing away. 896 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 2: It was it was a radio show, but somebody was 897 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 2: interviewing you my face? What and he tried to kiss her? 898 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 3: What? What is going on in a brain about it? Like? 899 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 2: What? 900 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 6: Oh? 901 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 3: God? Like I get what sort of brain is that 902 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 3: that thinks this is okay, this is the time I 903 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 3: do this. 904 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: I actually also now I remember it. 905 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 4: I had a I have a friend that used to 906 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 4: work in the Senate and I was visiting my friend 907 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 4: Jeremiah in DC and all these all these senators were 908 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 4: coming out and it was sort of exciting, and they 909 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 4: were all getting into their fancy black cars, and I 910 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 4: was like, wow, this is fucked up, like. 911 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 2: Our country is backed up. All these guys are. 912 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,439 Speaker 4: Millionaires, but I appreciated. He came out and his wife 913 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 4: picked him up. Okay, but he was waiting there. 914 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: And at that time I was waiting for my friend 915 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 2: and I saw him. I was very excited. There was 916 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 2: also a gentleman there screaming about abortion. 917 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 5: Oh interest and like a crazy person, I'm sure as. 918 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 2: El Franken sort of toddled over to me and I 919 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, I'm and I he said hello. 920 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 4: I was just a little weird in itself, but maybe 921 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 4: you know, and I said I'm sorry. He was like 922 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 4: he pointed to the guy and I was like, I'm 923 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 4: sorry about my dad. 924 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 2: Oh, and he did it. 925 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 4: Well, see you don't think it's funny either. He didn't 926 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 4: think it's funny either, and he was like ah, and 927 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 4: then he wandered away from me again. 928 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 3: Al did al did y? What a bizarre interaction. What. 929 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 2: I tried to make a joke and Al was freaked out. 930 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 3: Oh you said sorry about my dad? Ye oh, okay, 931 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 3: now see now this is funny. I was like, what 932 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 3: is Al Franklin talking? Saying that to you. It was like, 933 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 3: this makes zero sense. 934 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 4: So it's obviously not a good jokes, and you broke 935 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 4: it to me and Al agreed with you. 936 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 3: No, no, no no. I was thinking, why was like, 937 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 3: I got get. 938 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 2: Away from this crazy late. 939 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 4: There's two great there's someone yelling at about abortion and 940 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 4: then a lady. 941 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,280 Speaker 3: Tried a perfect joke. 942 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 2: A perfect joke anyway. 943 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 3: That makes sense. But for Al Franken to be saying 944 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 3: that to you is like the hoops. I was jumping 945 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 3: through my brain to make that. 946 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 2: I didn't tell that story very well, but I will 947 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 2: say something. I do like that he got into like 948 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 2: uh you know CRV right. I mean, he truly was 949 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 2: the only person. 950 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 3: His wife is like not aware that he's trying to 951 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 3: kiss people on podcasts. She's like, here, honey, I'm here 952 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 3: to pick you up to take you to a podcast 953 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 3: appearance where you're going to kiss somebody. I don't like it. 954 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 3: I don't like it, and he doesn't laugh at your Actually. 955 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 2: I'll ask, I'll ask permission, and then I will do it. 956 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 3: I need every guest on this podcast from now on. 957 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 3: This is what happens. 958 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 2: Please still gives and kissing gives our tongue. 959 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 3: I said, no gifts and please ask before you kiss me. 960 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 3: That's a nice title for a podcast, Yes, it is, 961 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 3: and then we hear people kissing me all the time. 962 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 3: It's very erotic podcast. Wow, what an interaction you had 963 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 3: with him? And what does he do for a living now? 964 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 3: Is he's still writing books? I don't know. 965 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 4: Actually he's you know, retire, Yeah, he's probably go just 966 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 4: he probably gives speeches. 967 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 2: Oh right, right, I mean I don't know. That's a 968 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 2: cool gas. 969 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 3: Right, And it doesn't seem like he's one of these 970 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 3: people who like got canceled and then became a far 971 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 3: right person just because right. So oh, I can't really 972 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 3: speak to him at this point other than what we 973 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 3: know and the fact that he's had a seed portrait. Yes, 974 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 3: probably not the first and but probably the last. 975 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 2: Of seed portraits. 976 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's probably gonna get Well, it's. 977 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 4: So available to my mom's garage. I think rats have 978 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 4: eaten most of it, but. 979 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 3: It is perfect arn't for rats. Now, I'm afraid to 980 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 3: have this. 981 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 2: In my home. That's why that spider was enjoying it. 982 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 3: I'm gonna spray it with rat poison. I'm terrified. I'm 983 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 3: absolutely mortified that this is going to be attracting rodents 984 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 3: any day. 985 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,760 Speaker 2: It's just a a buffet. 986 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 3: Rat's probably find the sort of eating tacky, you know. 987 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 3: It's like the sort of thing where you like, go 988 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 3: to a restaurant it's a cake that looks like a 989 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 3: shape and you're like, well that's a bad cake. That's 990 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,720 Speaker 3: just like a pile of seeds. 991 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 2: Fond fond. 992 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 3: I feel like as a society we're kind of moving 993 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 3: beyond that, right, I think fondant. 994 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 2: Fond whatever it is, Yeah, it's not. It doesn't look appetizing. 995 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,439 Speaker 3: We're all on to it where it's just like that's 996 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 3: sweet plastic. Yes, great job that you made the like 997 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 3: a thing that looks like a Ferrari cake or whatever. 998 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 3: But I don't want anything to do with it. Just 999 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 3: make a nice round cake, yes, or a sheet cake cakes. 1000 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 2: Don't get me started on shee cakes. I mean don't 1001 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 2: because it's boring. 1002 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 3: Well, I think I'm going to try to get into 1003 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 3: seed art. Is it difficult? 1004 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 2: No? 1005 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 3: This one? 1006 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 2: Fourth place? 1007 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 3: Are you an artist outside of this? 1008 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 4: I sometimes paint sometimes, Oh that's lovely, but you know 1009 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 4: I am an actor. 1010 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard, but did. 1011 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:10,800 Speaker 3: You go to art school? 1012 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 4: No, no, I went to I actually don't think that 1013 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 4: acting is an art. 1014 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 3: It's like a it's absolutely an art. When everyone else does, 1015 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,399 Speaker 3: it's pornography trash. I went. 1016 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 4: I went to acting school, which is like which is 1017 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 4: like refrigerator repair school. 1018 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 1019 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 2: It's just like you don't learn anything, but you do. 1020 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 3: I don't think so you've made a career out of it. 1021 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 2: I don't. 1022 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 3: And people cherish you, do. 1023 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 2: They thank you? 1024 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 3: I mean I cherish you. 1025 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 2: I cherish you too. 1026 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 3: A whole generation of people in comedy cherish you. I 1027 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 3: think that's true. So acting school, for one, if nothing else, 1028 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 3: thank god, you want to acting school to. 1029 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 2: Be cherished, to be cherished, I mean I didn't feel 1030 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 2: that way. You don't feel cherished. Acting school? 1031 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 3: Oh oh, in acting school was a horrible It was 1032 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:04,439 Speaker 3: just you know, it was. 1033 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 7: It was it was they had cuts, you know, people 1034 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 7: were it was just I don't know if they do 1035 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 7: that still, but they're like, let's break you down right 1036 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 7: to build. 1037 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 3: You up, totally destroy you. 1038 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 2: Acting automatron. I don't know if acting robot. 1039 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,720 Speaker 4: I don't know what an automatron is rot, but like yeah, 1040 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 4: but then you get out. 1041 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, people, people just want you to 1042 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 2: be a character ture version of yourself. That's like what 1043 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 2: you got to get your thing right? I don't know. 1044 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,879 Speaker 3: That's mostly what's happening on television. People are just showing 1045 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 3: up and speaking a little bit louder and faster than 1046 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 3: they usually dom hm hm. But I feel like you 1047 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 3: must have what school did you go to? 1048 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 2: Juilliard School? 1049 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I know. Okay, well look. 1050 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 2: At that, look at that at me, the Juilliard School. 1051 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 3: That's credible. 1052 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 2: It's incredible. 1053 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 3: That is I mean, you must have been thrown out 1054 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 3: of your mind when you were accepted. 1055 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 4: I was because they didn't care about grades and I 1056 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 4: had very bad grades. 1057 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,839 Speaker 3: Oh perfect, You had no choice but to. 1058 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 4: Go the way that anyone would be impressed by me. 1059 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 4: Like if I had gone in and great, like they 1060 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:19,839 Speaker 4: didn't care. 1061 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 2: You could I think you had to write an essay. 1062 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,280 Speaker 2: But I know someone who got in who their essay 1063 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 2: was just a drawing. 1064 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 3: So you could have done Sea Dart. 1065 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 2: Oh they would have loved it. No, but it was. 1066 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 2: It does have like a name for itself. But it's 1067 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,839 Speaker 2: it's not all that. It really isn't. 1068 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 3: They're going to rescind your degree. 1069 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,240 Speaker 4: They you know what they I this is nice of them. 1070 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 2: But I I stopped. 1071 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,839 Speaker 4: I ran out of money halfway through Juilliard and they 1072 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,280 Speaker 4: still let me continue. 1073 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 3: That's amazing. 1074 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 2: But they never gave me my diplomas. I owe them money. 1075 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,959 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, I think they. 1076 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 2: Never they but you know what, they never asked for 1077 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 2: it either. I can ask for money. 1078 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 3: It's an interesting bargain to strike. 1079 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 2: I know, it's weird. They have a lot of money. 1080 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 2: I think now you can go for free. 1081 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 3: Oh, everybody, email Juilliard at Juilliard dot com. I'm sure, 1082 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 3: send them a drawing and you're in free ride. Did 1083 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 3: you ever act on the stage. 1084 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I thought I was gonna do, always 1085 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 4: playing Juliet forever and like I was like, oh, I'm 1086 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 4: gonna I had I really was not ambitious. I wanted 1087 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 4: to be like in the course of a Broadway musical. 1088 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 4: That was my big It was just like, that is 1089 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 4: the life for me. But I've never done that. 1090 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 3: So you've never been in a Broadway show. 1091 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 4: I consider that I've done that because I did do 1092 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 4: Shakes from the Park. 1093 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 2: Oh okay, and that is like a version of. 1094 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 3: Broadway right right. 1095 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 2: But maybe I'll still. I mean, I'm not dead yet. 1096 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you've got plenty of time, so. 1097 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, yes, I did. I did theater in New 1098 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 2: York for a long time and then. 1099 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 3: Have no idea. 1100 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1101 00:50:55,160 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 2: Really terrible stuff, really terrible things, horrible. Play. 1102 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,479 Speaker 3: Well, I think we should play a game. 1103 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,879 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I love games so much, I really do. 1104 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 3: Oh incredible. I love to hear that we're gonna play 1105 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 3: a game called Gift or a Curse. But before we 1106 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 3: do that, I need a number between one and ten 1107 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 3: from you. 1108 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 2: Is this gonna be about opinions? 1109 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 3: It's about facts? 1110 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 4: Okay? 1111 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 3: Oh great, Okay, okay, I tell you about it. 1112 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 2: Sorry, you know what, it's none of my business. 1113 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 3: None of your business. Okay, all right, your nose. 1114 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,919 Speaker 2: Between ten and twelve, one and twelve. 1115 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 3: Let's do ten and twelve today. 1116 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 2: Okay, I guess eleven. 1117 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 3: Okay, with the number eleven, I have to do some 1118 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 3: light calculating to get our game pieces. So you have 1119 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 3: the mic right now. You can recommend something, promote something, 1120 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 3: do whatever you want. I'll be right. 1121 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 2: No, I have to talk. Oh god, what No? I 1122 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 2: feel so alone right now. 1123 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 4: I don't know what do I recommend? I guess if 1124 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 4: you like cooking. I recom mend the New York Times 1125 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 4: cooking recipes. They have some really good recipes, and every 1126 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 4: time I make one there, I'm boring myself. 1127 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 2: See this is I can't I can't do this. Does 1128 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 2: every please come back to me? 1129 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 3: This is kind of the Juilliard of this podcast, where 1130 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 3: we just absolutely break you down and you have to 1131 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 3: learn to stand on your own. I just I need 1132 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 3: someone to New York Times recipes. They have some They 1133 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 3: have some recipes that are always haunting me. But then 1134 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 3: I click it and it says sign up, and I 1135 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 3: say no, thank you. 1136 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,720 Speaker 2: Oh you can have my password. I'll give you my password. 1137 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 2: That's my other gift. And you know what, And I'll 1138 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 2: give you password. 1139 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 3: Using that password and your boring pass, I will become 1140 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:49,279 Speaker 3: Maria Thayer. Watch out Maria that. If you can hear 1141 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 3: the police in the background, they're onto us, onto me. 1142 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 3: Excellent recommendation. What am I going to do? You know 1143 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 3: what I'm going to recommend is the album Green River 1144 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 3: by c CR Credence Cleairwater Revival. Have you heard this album? 1145 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 2: What sing me a song from it? 1146 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:04,839 Speaker 5: Oh? 1147 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 3: I can't sing? Do you know the song? I mean? 1148 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 3: Bad Moon Rising? But bad Moon. Incredible song. 1149 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 2: Low Die, Low Die wrote. 1150 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 3: A song for everyone. 1151 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 2: No, what is it? I don't know. That's time. 1152 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 3: I will not sing a note on this podcast. That'll 1153 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 3: be career ending. Excellent album. I hadn't listened to it 1154 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 3: in years, front to back, incredible, incredible album on at 1155 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 3: least Do you have anything to recommend? 1156 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,359 Speaker 2: How dare you make me speak? I know Affle, you 1157 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 2: know what. 1158 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 6: I'm going to recommend that everybody go see Twisters because 1159 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,879 Speaker 6: Bridger hated it, so I no, I. 1160 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 3: Did not hate. I thought it was one of the 1161 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 3: dumbest movies I've ever seen, but very fun. Okay, very fun. 1162 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 2: All right, maybe you're not on my shit list. 1163 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 3: Okay, Twisters doesn't make any promise other than being a 1164 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 3: dumb movie about that, and it was very fun. 1165 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 2: It was very fun. 1166 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 6: We need more movies like that to come out in 1167 00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 6: the summertime. 1168 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 3: And ultimately it needs the press. It really is. I'm 1169 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 3: sure it's hurting for. 1170 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 2: Mommy, it's so hurting. 1171 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,879 Speaker 3: Okay, we've all made recommendations all over the map. It's 1172 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 3: time to play gift or a curse. I'm gonna name 1173 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 3: three things. Yes, you're gonna tell me if there're a 1174 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 3: gift or a curse? And why okay, then I will 1175 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 3: tell you if you're right or wrong, because there are 1176 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 3: correct answers and you can fail. You can get a 1177 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 3: pink ribbon, but you're shooting for a blue ribbon. 1178 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 2: Yes? 1179 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 3: Is that the highest? 1180 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 2: Are you saying that this is a failure? That's what 1181 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 2: you seem like. 1182 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 3: I agree, I know I'm saying that it's just not 1183 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 3: the blue ribbon. This is the pink ribbon, which is 1184 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 3: a gorgeous shade. But we all know the blue ribbon 1185 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 3: is what Wilbur wanted to win in Charlotte's Web, and 1186 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 3: I can't remember how that turned out. For Okay, the 1187 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 3: number one the first thing we're going to be talking 1188 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 3: about today. This is from a listener named Eden. Gift 1189 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 3: or a curse when someone leaves their phone on do 1190 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 3: not disturb one hundred percent of the time. 1191 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 2: Gift? 1192 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 4: Why, Well, it's a boundary and people telling you their 1193 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 4: boundaries is a gift. I love it, and uh yeah, 1194 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 4: I do it. So it's a gift, so very into. 1195 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 3: It knocked it out of the park. You're you're talking 1196 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 3: to the right person with this. I don't think that 1197 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 3: it should even be an option on a phone. I 1198 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 3: think the phone should just that should be the standard 1199 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 3: for the phone where it's never bothering you. 1200 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 2: Ever, that's wonderful, and. 1201 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 3: You know you just go and check in with it, yeah, 1202 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 3: rather than it bothering you. I will frequently leave mine 1203 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,959 Speaker 3: non do not disturb for days at a time, which 1204 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 3: gets frustrating for other people in your life. But big deal. 1205 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,239 Speaker 2: But the thing is it doesn't mean anything because it does. 1206 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 2: Like it you do you get back to it? Yes, 1207 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 2: you get back to it, right. 1208 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 3: I mean I think when people try to call in 1209 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,359 Speaker 3: a sense straight to voicemail, they freak out. 1210 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes are people calling you one calls? 1211 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 3: My phone is ringing off the hook? You know? No, 1212 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 3: I get about three, I would say, two to three 1213 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 3: phone calls a day. Does that feel? 1214 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 2: That feels very popular to me? 1215 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 3: Actually, that's that? Can't possibly are some of these people? 1216 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 4: I mean, if you count spam calls, I get, you know, 1217 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,959 Speaker 4: two to three, but I don't. 1218 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I don't get that many phone calls. 1219 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,480 Speaker 3: I place phone calls, I think, but it's only family 1220 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 3: members essentially, or very occasionally a friend I'll. 1221 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,320 Speaker 2: Call, Yes, yes, me too, But I would. 1222 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 3: Much rather just have an undo not service. Then we're 1223 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 3: on my terms. 1224 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 2: What do you think about a FaceTime? An unplanned FaceTime? 1225 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 3: See this is I mean, we just talked about this 1226 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 3: on the podcast because no we're talking. We talked about 1227 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 3: something adjacent because somebody wrote in asking is it inappropriate 1228 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 3: to just call without texting? And I said, go for it. Yes. 1229 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 2: People sometimes get upset about that, but I think that's great. 1230 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 3: That's fine because you know that's but facetiming there's an expectator. 1231 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,839 Speaker 3: You're going to be seeing the person, and you want 1232 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 3: to be mildly prepared to have your face blown up 1233 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,879 Speaker 3: on someone's phone. Yes, and that feels weird. I need 1234 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,919 Speaker 3: a text? Hey, would you mind? Do you want to FaceTime? Yes? Yeah, 1235 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 3: it's not can I FaceTime? It's not uh I need 1236 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 3: to FaceTime you? It's do you want to FaceTime? 1237 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 2: What if it's your brother or your mom? 1238 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. I need them to in advance say okay, 1239 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 3: what about you. 1240 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 4: I I just won't answer if they FaceTime me and 1241 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 4: I don't want to, but I will my brother. I 1242 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 4: will FaceTime and I know he doesn't like it, so 1243 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 4: I still do it. 1244 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 3: I don't mind FaceTime. 1245 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 2: I say, can I FaceTime? 1246 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 3: You. 1247 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 2: Now he won't. 1248 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 3: Oh so you have to sneak it in. 1249 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,760 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, he won't answer me, or he he or 1250 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 4: he'll say he probably would say no. 1251 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 2: I just say, like, I feel like he needs to. 1252 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 3: Be pushed a little bit. Okay, right right. 1253 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 2: I just said I like boundaries, and then I just immediately. 1254 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 3: Said it wor yes, no. I. I guess there's probably 1255 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:09,080 Speaker 3: one my sister, if she facetimes me, I would probably 1256 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 3: if I feel like it's an appropriate time, would I 1257 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 3: answer yes. Most of the time, I'm just like, oh, 1258 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 3: they made a mistake. I'll hang up and they'll call me. 1259 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 3: And then if they FaceTime again, I think, oh, this 1260 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 3: person's a psycho. I'm blocking them. 1261 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 2: It only takes two two times. 1262 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 3: Very short fuse. Okay, so you've gotten one right so far, 1263 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 3: which is incredible. Number two This is from a listener 1264 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 3: named Rachel Gift her a curse talking animals in commercials. 1265 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 2: Gift why because animals? 1266 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 3: That's all you're gonna say about this? More animals, Maria 1267 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 3: wrong curse? 1268 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,919 Speaker 2: No why because. 1269 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 3: I love to see an animal in a commercial. But 1270 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 3: the moment they're talking, it's a fake animal. The magic 1271 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 3: is ruined for me. Show me beautiful pictures of dogs running, 1272 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 3: cats eating, Well, don't show me the cat eating the 1273 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 3: wet food. No one wants that. But I love to 1274 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 3: see a real animal and a commercial even doing a 1275 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 3: trick or a stunt. But when their mouth starts moving, 1276 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 3: she's like, what is what am I looking at? 1277 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 2: I think animals should be seen and not heard. 1278 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 3: Seen and not heard. 1279 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 2: That that's wrong. 1280 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 3: Problematic now that people can tell how I vote. No, 1281 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 3: I think it's about it. 1282 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 2: Boundaries me a little bit. 1283 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, boundaries crossed when the animal begins to speak, if 1284 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 3: it's barking or meowing, that's okay, although then I start 1285 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 3: to wonder, as a starved animal or are they scaring it? 1286 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 2: I do think that when kids cry and. 1287 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 3: All the weirdest what is that? Yes? Someone recently made 1288 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 3: a good point to me about AI of child actors 1289 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 3: and babies. Let that be AI. 1290 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, but then slippery slope, yes, and just like, well, 1291 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 4: what makes a baby? 1292 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 2: It's most actors act like baby. 1293 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 3: I love a producer being like he's forty three, he's 1294 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:14,560 Speaker 3: a baby. But yeah, that that was the one time 1295 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,000 Speaker 3: when I've been like, oh maybe hmm, maybe I can 1296 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 3: get on boards with computers taking over. 1297 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't like that Geico lizard. 1298 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 3: I could take him or leave him. My niece had 1299 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 3: a crush on him for a while, which I found 1300 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 3: very cute. So she was in love with the Geico 1301 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 3: gecko that she just lets you I gave. Do you 1302 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 3: know what I think? I like wrote to Geico or something. 1303 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 3: It was like, how do I get a stuff version 1304 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 3: of what's his name? Gordon? Oh? 1305 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 2: I think his name is Gordon. 1306 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 3: I was like, can I get one? And they sent 1307 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 3: me one and it was like the best gift she 1308 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 3: possibly could have. 1309 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 2: That's all so sweet. 1310 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 3: And I should say that she's thirty two. 1311 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 2: She's a baby. 1312 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a baby. No, this is she was probably 1313 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 3: three and she was obsessed. And what a great choice. 1314 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 3: He's so charming. He tries is a convertible, does work 1315 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,320 Speaker 3: for an insurance company? Which is gets dark. 1316 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 2: Now it's it's true. You do like I had a 1317 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 2: crush on the Hefty Smurf. 1318 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 3: Oh, look he was so se his name's Hefty Smurf, 1319 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 3: Hefty Smurf. Let's see here. Of course this guy is 1320 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,680 Speaker 3: red Hawk. Again, he's got the little tattoo. And then, 1321 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,040 Speaker 3: of course, if we have somebody shirtless. Let's see, but 1322 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 3: aren't all of the smurf is always shirtless? 1323 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,440 Speaker 2: I guess so is Papa Smurf somebody. 1324 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 3: I think, let's see here, Papa Smurf. Let's yeah, they're 1325 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,479 Speaker 3: all shirtless. All of the Smurfs are pretty good looking. 1326 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:49,959 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say they've got that great blue We found 1327 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 3: an erotic Papa Smurf almost immediately absolutely ripped skin tight 1328 01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,560 Speaker 3: red pants marvelous. Yeah, okay, that was a good choice 1329 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 3: for you to have a crush on. It was more humanoid. 1330 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 6: I just have to let you guys know that Gordon 1331 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 6: Gecko is actually the character from Wall Street played by 1332 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:11,600 Speaker 6: Michael Douglass. 1333 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 3: But did they also name the insurance cart Martin? 1334 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 2: Wait Martin? 1335 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody knows. Currently as recording, we are the only 1336 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 3: three people in the world. 1337 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 2: That knows that is Martin. 1338 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 3: Spread the words Martin. No, no, no, no. They had 1339 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,840 Speaker 3: the easy joke. There, go for it. I still call 1340 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 3: him Gordon. I don't care. Cancel my insurance Geico, I 1341 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 3: don't care. But ultimately a curse. Talking animals are a 1342 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 3: curse in commercials. So you've gotten one out of two 1343 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,520 Speaker 3: so far. Here's your big moment to get at least 1344 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 3: one more point. This is from a listener named Andy. 1345 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 3: Andy has suggested gift her a curse middle aged men 1346 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 3: using a younger generation slang words ironically. 1347 01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:08,479 Speaker 2: Oh god, that is awful, truly awful. I don't get it. 1348 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:13,400 Speaker 2: I don't get how people dude, like are they we're 1349 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 2: our own generation. Just let us be your own generation. 1350 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 1: You know. 1351 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 4: I just read that you that, so I just read 1352 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 4: that younger people don't like invisible socks. They were and 1353 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 4: like then so people are now like wearing right freaking 1354 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 4: out yes, and they're like I gotta. 1355 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 3: She's like, why even disguised? 1356 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like, they're not for you. It's 1357 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,920 Speaker 2: not for you. You have other things. 1358 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 3: Also, you have hindsight where you think. I do remember 1359 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,479 Speaker 3: a point in my life when that sort of sock 1360 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 3: was popular for children, and then a few years later 1361 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,960 Speaker 3: I thought that looks bad. And then you switch to 1362 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:53,960 Speaker 3: a noosu. Yeah suck. You had your long socks, yeah, wherever, 1363 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 3: whatever you want, but don't try to be don't seventeen? 1364 01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 2: No, why just why just why why do that? What 1365 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 2: do you think? 1366 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:09,439 Speaker 3: Well, it's a gift. I'll tell you why. 1367 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 2: I really truly have to go. 1368 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 3: Maria's climbing on top of her motorcycle and driving away, 1369 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 3: firing her gun into the air. 1370 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 2: Oh god, what. 1371 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,439 Speaker 3: I'll tell you exactly why. I will tell you exactly why. 1372 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 3: This is a gift. Of course it's mortifying. Of course 1373 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 3: it's humiliating. Of course it's unacceptable. But it is such 1374 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 3: a beautiful sign that the word is dead. It's the 1375 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 3: graveyard for the word once it comes out of the 1376 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 3: lips of a middle aged man trying to either ironically 1377 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:44,360 Speaker 3: or purposefully use it. The word we all know. Well, 1378 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 3: the word's done. You can say goodbye to that word, 1379 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,760 Speaker 3: shuffle it off, and the youth can start thinking of 1380 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 3: their new words again. 1381 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 2: I have a counterpoint to that, which is I think 1382 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 2: words go by too quickly. 1383 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 4: Oh interest, well, we don't get to save her words 1384 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 4: enough before the middle aged me to ruin them for like, 1385 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 4: let's just you know, I can't think of any because I. 1386 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 3: The one I'm thinking of currently. Well, first of all, 1387 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 3: I think that the Internet is to blame for that, 1388 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 3: because we all have access to all of the things immediately, 1389 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,280 Speaker 3: so the middle aged men can hop right on board 1390 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 3: and start using the words. But you know, that's just 1391 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 3: the cycle. At this point, We've just got to keep 1392 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 3: thinking of new things. But the current one that's being 1393 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 3: all over the news is brat. Have you heard this? 1394 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 3: We're seeing every news anchor trying to figure out what 1395 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:34,920 Speaker 3: bratt means. I mean, I'm sure Charlie XCX is freaking 1396 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 3: out happiness. No, I'm sure. Well, maybe it's like, oh, 1397 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,080 Speaker 3: finally here's a little cash, but it's like, now my 1398 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 3: word has been ruined by the Channel nine news by 1399 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 3: four six year olds saying brat over and over and 1400 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 3: over again, trying to figure out what green means. But 1401 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 3: it means bratt. 1402 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't know. Maybe there's more too. 1403 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, ask Chuck, but uh, Bratt has been 1404 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 3: kind of it has been very powerful, Yes, I mean, 1405 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,520 Speaker 3: I mean it's really boosted the campaign, although it makes 1406 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,320 Speaker 3: me wonder, is now Taylor Swift going to say, well, 1407 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 3: because Tamala is so on board with Charlie, can I 1408 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 3: not touch this? Because I'm jealous? And everyone's saying, what's 1409 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift going to do? The politics of pop music 1410 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 3: are fascinating. 1411 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,720 Speaker 2: God that question. Honestly, I'm getting sick to my stomach. 1412 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 2: I just like don't. I don't know. 1413 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 3: I mean, well, only time will tell, Only time will tell. 1414 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 4: Just like I don't know. Yeah, I just don't know. 1415 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,320 Speaker 4: I don't what is happening. 1416 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,880 Speaker 3: I need you to speak to this moment, Maria. 1417 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 2: I can't. I can't. It's very person like me. 1418 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 3: You know exactly what's going on. You're very shrewd. But 1419 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:01,320 Speaker 3: know who knows? 1420 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 2: Yes? No, I yes, no, yes, no. I did see 1421 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 2: that newscast A Bratt. That's how I was. I was 1422 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 2: cued into Bratt. Actually, I was like, I've even passed 1423 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:13,120 Speaker 2: those people. 1424 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,160 Speaker 3: Had you heard of Charlie XC action? But Brat was 1425 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 3: it was in your bones? Yeah? I guess it was absolutely. 1426 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 3: Had you enjoyed the songs? 1427 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,440 Speaker 2: I mean no, I don't. I didn't know them. I 1428 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,200 Speaker 2: now I have enjoyed them. I mean, but I still 1429 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 2: but I still I've listened to them. I enjoyed the dances. 1430 01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 2: I do enjoy a. 1431 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 3: Good bread dance. But I mean I can't say. I 1432 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,080 Speaker 3: mean the fact that I just said that is I've 1433 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,800 Speaker 3: now killed the word. 1434 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:43,880 Speaker 2: But do you know about that dance? 1435 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 3: Of course? Of course, I mean again, the dance has 1436 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,120 Speaker 3: been the internet, sex everything. It's like a little It's 1437 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:50,960 Speaker 3: truly like there's a chicken nugget on the ground and 1438 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 3: every fly in the world lands on it. At once. 1439 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 3: Things get eaten up and snapped away from us. 1440 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 6: Please let me teach it to you. I will teach you. 1441 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 6: I will, absolutely, and then that will be the effect. 1442 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 6: Then you'll have to prove that this is actually. 1443 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:11,520 Speaker 3: There is no chance to me too. Absolutely absolutely, this 1444 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,640 Speaker 3: is gonna air in a month before are gonna be 1445 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 3: looking us suing the Apple Dance in a month we prove. 1446 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:23,439 Speaker 2: That it's actually a gift. There you go, the. 1447 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:29,599 Speaker 3: Fact that I'm trapped on audio being absolutely blackmailed by 1448 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,040 Speaker 3: my producer. This is disgusting. I don't even know where 1449 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:33,679 Speaker 3: to go from here. 1450 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:35,240 Speaker 2: No, there's nowhere to go. 1451 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sweating, I'm nauseous. I would have rather woken 1452 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:44,559 Speaker 3: up at four am. Well, you got one out of three, which. 1453 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 2: It's true I got. In my mind, I got three. 1454 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 3: Out of three, and that's all that really matters. You're 1455 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:53,559 Speaker 3: you're wearing whatever type of socks you want? Yes, exactly, Okay, Well, 1456 01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,680 Speaker 3: decently played. This is the final segment of the podcast. 1457 01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,760 Speaker 3: It's called I said no emails people write into I 1458 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 3: said gifts at gmail dot com. You know, it's hard 1459 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 3: to not say they're begging for answers. Okay, they're absolutely begging. 1460 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:09,639 Speaker 3: Would you help me answer a question? 1461 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:10,160 Speaker 2: Of course. 1462 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,839 Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into the doc. This says, hello, Bridger 1463 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,719 Speaker 3: and thoughtful guest. That's very nice. I think that's very true. 1464 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:22,000 Speaker 3: You've proven over and over this is I've been happily 1465 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,559 Speaker 3: divorced since twenty nineteen. Well, that remains to be seen. 1466 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 3: Since then, I have exchanged gifts and well wishes with 1467 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,800 Speaker 3: my former mother in law for birthdays and Christmas. This 1468 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 3: past Christmas, I sent my children to their grandparents' house 1469 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:40,679 Speaker 3: with our chosen gift lo and behold, no gift was returned. Nothing. 1470 01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,719 Speaker 3: She didn't even reach out. Now, I didn't say no gifts. 1471 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,920 Speaker 3: I have gotten them for the past several years and 1472 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 3: was utterly hurt to be frozen out. I at least 1473 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,160 Speaker 3: expected a card, as I had been part of the 1474 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,639 Speaker 3: family for over eighteen years. Nothing for my birthday either, 1475 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 3: not even a text. Mother in law's birthday is coming up. 1476 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,800 Speaker 3: I'm conflicted on if I should send a card, do 1477 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 3: a gift, or ignore it altogether. I'm leaning towards just 1478 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 3: breaking free from that entire family. But what does Bridger 1479 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:13,440 Speaker 3: etiquette say? Giftless in Tennessee? Serenity, and that's from Brianna 1480 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:14,280 Speaker 3: or Brianna. 1481 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,759 Speaker 2: So if I understand, she got divorced in twenty nineteen, 1482 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:18,679 Speaker 2: right before the pandemic. 1483 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:24,320 Speaker 4: Perfect, perfect, and then she has been giving her mother 1484 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:25,799 Speaker 4: in law, former mother in law. 1485 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 2: Gifts until last year. 1486 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,040 Speaker 4: Yes, so this has been going on for a while, Okay, right, 1487 01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:30,880 Speaker 4: and this is the first year that she has not. 1488 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,160 Speaker 5: Received a gift or a thank you card, nothing at all? Okay, 1489 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:39,640 Speaker 5: dead silence, got it? Absolute just darkness. I mean, I 1490 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,600 Speaker 5: think we should just put the obvious out that the 1491 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 5: mother in law died. That feels like a clear How else, 1492 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,720 Speaker 5: I mean, how are any of us supposed to know 1493 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,720 Speaker 5: if this woman's alive. There were all these signs of 1494 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,320 Speaker 5: life up until a very distinct point, and now Brianna's 1495 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 5: children might be keeping a secret from her. 1496 01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 2: Ayah, they went to Grandma's load to bear. 1497 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:08,240 Speaker 3: I know we all have Grandma's dead. We can't tell mom, 1498 01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,960 Speaker 3: and we have to let mom just keep sending her gifts, 1499 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:16,679 Speaker 3: which is torturing the ex husband. The ex husband feels 1500 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:22,240 Speaker 3: like he's been taunted by this ex wife gifts. So 1501 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 3: that's one thing that could have and most likely happened. 1502 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 3: Number Two, there's a new wife in the picture. 1503 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:31,400 Speaker 2: Oh yes, I didn't even think of. 1504 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:36,160 Speaker 3: Daughter in law who has kind of become the Spengali 1505 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,880 Speaker 3: of the mother and his brainwash her until the gift 1506 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,679 Speaker 3: exchange is happening there and Brionna's vanished. 1507 01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,680 Speaker 2: Yes, but maybe that wouldn't the kids tell the. 1508 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:49,360 Speaker 3: The Oh well again, maybe the kids are keeping a secret. 1509 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:50,560 Speaker 2: These kids are incredible. 1510 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,360 Speaker 3: Maybe the kids are falling in love with new step mom. Yes, 1511 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 3: and they don't. They're so conflicted. 1512 01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,639 Speaker 2: Yes, they want to be the gifts. 1513 01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,839 Speaker 3: Right, they're thinking of ditching Brionn all together. 1514 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure that's not true, Brianna. 1515 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,519 Speaker 3: But you never know, Brianna, think about that right before 1516 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,600 Speaker 3: you go to bed. And then the third option is 1517 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:12,920 Speaker 3: this mother in law is ungrateful and horrible. So what 1518 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,720 Speaker 3: do you do with the final option when your mother 1519 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,400 Speaker 3: and ex. Let's okay, and again, let's say, Brianna, you 1520 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:21,440 Speaker 3: keep calling your mother in law. Brianna's a little delusional 1521 01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 3: at this point. No longer X it's an ex mother 1522 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:30,720 Speaker 3: in law. But eighteen years, eighteen years, but you're not 1523 01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:34,040 Speaker 3: so calling your husband, your husband, Brianna, or if you are, 1524 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:39,800 Speaker 3: then we'd need to that's another email X. Yeah, so 1525 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,160 Speaker 3: you know at some point I'm. 1526 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,520 Speaker 2: I'm taking this very seriously. 1527 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,800 Speaker 3: As you should. So what should she do? 1528 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 2: Well, you know, we don't have all the information. 1529 01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:52,800 Speaker 3: We don't. 1530 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:53,599 Speaker 2: She hasn't either. 1531 01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 3: She left to have so many crucial details. Drive by 1532 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 3: your house before you send the email. Check the obituaries. 1533 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,960 Speaker 4: Oh, there's a lot of reasons why she Maybe she 1534 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,840 Speaker 4: feels maybe the mother in law feels weird about them 1535 01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,760 Speaker 4: still being in touch. Right, she's crazy, they'll be if 1536 01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,560 Speaker 4: there's if the kids are still right, maybe there is 1537 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:11,599 Speaker 4: another voice in there. 1538 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:16,240 Speaker 2: Maybe the ex is dating somebody, and but as. 1539 01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,600 Speaker 4: Somebody who I have a family member that is a 1540 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:23,599 Speaker 4: family member, and I always give her gifts and she 1541 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,160 Speaker 4: never gives me gifts. And I don't even know if 1542 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,640 Speaker 4: she even gets them. I send them because and then 1543 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,280 Speaker 4: and then, so like last Christmas, I gave her something 1544 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,800 Speaker 4: and then a few months ago she sent me a 1545 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:36,280 Speaker 4: picture of her using. 1546 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,720 Speaker 3: Oh okay, so she is getting them. 1547 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,120 Speaker 2: So she's getting them, but she's not thinking me or anything. 1548 01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:46,280 Speaker 2: But do you know what, sure it just if you 1549 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:47,320 Speaker 2: want to give a gift. 1550 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,719 Speaker 3: That's why it's a gift. Yes, you can't expect anything. No, 1551 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:52,120 Speaker 3: it's not an exhame. 1552 01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,320 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And if you want to give I think 1553 01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,120 Speaker 4: it's lovely if she wants to keep her children's grandmother 1554 01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,960 Speaker 4: in her life, right and if that include its gift giving. 1555 01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,720 Speaker 4: But if it's healthier for her to like she's never 1556 01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,360 Speaker 4: to not to not have that relationship with her ex 1557 01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:08,000 Speaker 4: mother in law. 1558 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,400 Speaker 2: I mean, she's gonna have a relationship with her because 1559 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:11,360 Speaker 2: she she's. 1560 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,840 Speaker 3: There, no matter right, at some point they're going to 1561 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:14,519 Speaker 3: cross paths. 1562 01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,839 Speaker 2: That's that's I took it seriously. 1563 01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,439 Speaker 3: And what do you think I think? I mean, I 1564 01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:23,400 Speaker 3: think that's very healthy. I do think that there's a 1565 01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,599 Speaker 3: chance that the mother in law has do not disturb 1566 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:26,600 Speaker 3: on her phone. 1567 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,760 Speaker 2: Which you always already said yes, yes. 1568 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,720 Speaker 3: So maybe Brionna needs to also turn it on on 1569 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:38,320 Speaker 3: her phone and then continue sending gifts be you know, 1570 01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,160 Speaker 3: you just it's nice to have the edge as a 1571 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:44,080 Speaker 3: better person, continue to show off how good of a 1572 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 3: person you are. And this mother in law. 1573 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,040 Speaker 2: That was the underlying thing of what I was saying. 1574 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,080 Speaker 2: Actually that's what actually was. 1575 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,639 Speaker 4: I pretended like it was just like be a good person. 1576 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:55,519 Speaker 4: But it's like, be a good person, so I will. 1577 01:14:56,240 --> 01:15:01,439 Speaker 3: Yes, So the new lady in the husband's life knows 1578 01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,160 Speaker 3: how great you are, how everybody just looks at you 1579 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,600 Speaker 3: as this kind of eternal sunshine. 1580 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:10,160 Speaker 2: Yes, you were unfazed. You also have so much money 1581 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:11,599 Speaker 2: that you're like, you're generous. 1582 01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:17,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got it all, thoughtful guests, you're the thoughtful personn. 1583 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:20,920 Speaker 3: Ex exactly, Brianna. You don't want people to think things 1584 01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,439 Speaker 3: are going wrong, and the first way to let things 1585 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,360 Speaker 3: people know things are going wrong is to stop giving gifts. Yes, 1586 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:31,880 Speaker 3: so actually get progressively more expensive gifts, even if it 1587 01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:36,759 Speaker 3: ruins you, because if she's not dead already. 1588 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,240 Speaker 2: Yes, you're gonna guilt this lady into an early gests. 1589 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 3: You'll kill her soon enough. Yes, Brianna, Oh, don't right 1590 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:51,120 Speaker 3: back in. Okay, we answered it perfectly. We probably solved 1591 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,200 Speaker 3: a lot of issues in that family. Yes, who knows. 1592 01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,879 Speaker 3: Maybe there's a rekindling of love, there's you know, children 1593 01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:03,719 Speaker 3: revealing secrets. There's no telling what this podcast can do. Oh, Maria, 1594 01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,720 Speaker 3: I have this beautiful piece of art. I have a 1595 01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:10,000 Speaker 3: prize winning piece of art. True, this is the first 1596 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,280 Speaker 3: award winning piece of art I've gotten this podcast. 1597 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,439 Speaker 2: Am I going to be able to tour the to 1598 01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:15,160 Speaker 2: see the other. 1599 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,720 Speaker 3: I can show you the other art so exciting. Yeah, 1600 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 3: I'll bring it out. We've gotten a few pieces that 1601 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:24,080 Speaker 3: are all lovely. I've had such a wonderful time with 1602 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,479 Speaker 3: you here today. Thank you for extremely boring. I know 1603 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,680 Speaker 3: I'm exhausted. I know we're gonna have to cut this 1604 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:37,280 Speaker 3: down to about three minutes of audio. Thank you for 1605 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 3: being here. My pleasure listener podcast is screeching to a halt, 1606 01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:50,000 Speaker 3: Go do something else. I love you, goodbye. I said, 1607 01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,280 Speaker 3: No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by 1608 01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,360 Speaker 3: our dear friend on Aalise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed 1609 01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,000 Speaker 3: by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without our 1610 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:03,479 Speaker 3: guest booker, Patrick Cottner. The theme song, of course, could 1611 01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:07,479 Speaker 3: only come from a miracle worker, Amy Mann. You must 1612 01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,400 Speaker 3: follow the show on Instagram. At I said no Gifts, 1613 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,640 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you 1614 01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,160 Speaker 3: get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. 1615 01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 3: And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 1616 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:25,880 Speaker 1: And I invited you hear thought a man myself perfectly clear. 1617 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:32,439 Speaker 1: When you're a guest to me, you gotta come to 1618 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:40,320 Speaker 1: me empty. And I said, no gifts, your presences presents enough, 1619 01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,640 Speaker 1: and I'm already too much stuff. 1620 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,400 Speaker 2: So how do you dare to survey me?