1 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: Welcome and to Jags am kind honest gave me here 2 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: with Brian next and John Osier, and we are back 3 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: were fresh renewed from by week as we get ready 4 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: for Week ten of the NFL season. And I'm gonna 5 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: speak for everybody and say, we're pretty happy with where 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: the team is at right now at six and two, 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: especially when you watch some of the other games like 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: I did this weekend, you're definitely more appreciative of where 9 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: the Jaguars are at. At least I'll speak for you 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: guys and say that, cause some of those teams they're 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: struggling right now. 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and and it's it's my hot takes, so 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: I'm gonna hold off. 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: Okay, what did you get to do on your week off? John? 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: Uh? 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 4: I went to porch Fest and Springfield and I watched 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 4: a little NFL yesterday. Okay, look, uh, the Jags are 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 4: good and it was nice to watch. Obviously Jaguars play 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 4: knowing that they were either gonna be two and a 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 4: half three games up their two games up. And I'm 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 4: getting some emails from people, why aren't the Jaguars playing 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 4: as good as this team? Why aren't they playing as 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 4: good as this team. Why did Trevor Lawrence CJ. 24 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 5: Strett. 25 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 4: Look, they're six and two, they've won eleven of their 26 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 4: last thirteen. They're fine. They're winning games the way they've 27 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 4: been winning. Yeah, and now they have a tough stretch 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 4: and I'm getting emails about that too, Ryan, Oh, it's 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: a tough stretch. 30 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 5: It's the NFL. It's supposed to be hard. 31 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: No rookie quarterback has ever played like CJ. Strouded yesterday. 32 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 2: That's a revelation. 33 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: That was something to watch for sure, And we'll get 34 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: to that a little bit later on in the show. 35 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: Let's start with our big things this week, Fell is 36 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: to go into week ten. They're back at it. That's 37 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: our big thing because after the bye week they have 38 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: not much time to get back into it before they're 39 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: going up against the forty nine ers on Sunday, and 40 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: that is certainly going to be a big game. Brian. 41 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: We had this one circled down our schedule beforehand, and 42 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, the forty nine ers coming off of by 43 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: as well, so they've had some time to get well. 44 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: This is going to be a good game. 45 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: We spent so much time Kay talking about old the 46 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: games they played in that compressed period of time. What 47 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: which is three and twelve days four in nineteen Now 48 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: they'll play their first game or their second game, I 49 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: should say in twenty four days, right, So they've had 50 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 2: plenty of time to get guys who were banged up 51 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: or injured ready to practice this week and find out 52 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: whether they can come back and play. Plus, you just 53 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: spent the weekend watching some of the best teams. That 54 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: Miami Kansas City game yesterday, you know, the Baltimore Seattle game. 55 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: These guys want to get back out of the field 56 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: because they want to play. They want to see where 57 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: they match up. 58 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 5: John. 59 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: Any chance they got out of focus in this time 60 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: off or do you think they'll be all set? 61 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 4: Look, if if they win Sunday, then the bi will 62 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: have been great. If they lose, they got out of focus, 63 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 4: they didn't it, that will be the narrative whether that's 64 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 4: to I don't worry about this team being ready, I 65 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: don't worry about it being focused. 66 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 5: Whatever. The forty nine ers are good. They might lose. 67 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 4: They also might win because the Jaguars are gonna think 68 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 4: it'd be that kind of a game. But I don't 69 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 4: think I'll have anything to do with lack of focus. 70 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: I think this buy can only help this team to 71 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 4: get healthy. 72 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: And I think when you look at Doug Peterson and 73 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: his body at work as both a player and a coach, 74 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: you know, he's been in this league since nineteen ninety one, 75 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: so he has seen it all and he understands he's 76 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: gone through two by weeks and one by week and 77 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: how to put it all together. He'll have this team 78 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: ready to get to practice field this week and then 79 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: you get a San Francisco team that's lost three in 80 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: a row coming across the country right to play a 81 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 2: ten am game. But they're really still very good. Don't 82 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: let anybody tell you that they're not. 83 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 1: They're certainly going to be dangerous no matter who's out 84 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: on the field for them. Our second big thing this 85 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: week is deadline addition, because it's been about a week 86 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: since we've talked to you guys, and trade deadline has 87 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: come and gone on Halloween and there was an addition 88 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: to this team, maybe not what people expected, but they 89 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: added to the offensive line. Doug Peterson was actually on 90 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: the Pat McAfee show at the time the trade was announced. 91 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say. 92 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: Well, I think that is expectations, and you know, obviously 93 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: getting a good player to come in here and help us. 94 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: And we've already got a good offensive line, and Ezra 95 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: can come in and give us some really good depth 96 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: and it's just a matter of getting him caught up 97 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: and get him getting getting him in the room. 98 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 6: You know, with a with a really good offensive line, 99 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 6: guys like Brandon Shriff, I mean, he he's the leader 100 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 6: in there, and Luke Fortner and you know, I mean 101 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 6: you look at these guys, Cam Robinson, I mean, Walker Little. 102 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: These guys are just busting their tail every week. So 103 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: getting a guy like Ezra his caliber, we got a 104 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: you know, a starting type guard really really solidifies, you know, 105 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 3: solidifies our offensive line and makes us better. 106 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Love the Halloween costumes there on the Pat McFee show, 107 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: they did add to the offensive line, John, that was 108 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: something we talked about maybe if you can find somebody 109 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: to add there, that would certainly be helpful to the 110 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 1: depth of this team. That's an issue they've had throughout 111 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: the season. Is this guy gonna help out there? 112 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I give some options. I don't really have a 113 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 4: great feel yet for whether it's going to be him. 114 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 4: It's gonna be Walker Little left guard bare minimum. It 115 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 4: gives them options. I think they learned last year that 116 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 4: they need in the second half the season two guys 117 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: that can I mean, three offensive tackles and three swing 118 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: players that they like, and now they Tyler Satley in 119 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: there with Cleveland. It gives them the depth and it 120 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: might make them stronger on the interior, which is why 121 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 4: Little might be the odd man out for a week 122 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: or to until they figure this thing out. 123 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: He's a good player, whether he'd be ready to go 124 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: this week or not. I think most people have probably 125 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: heard that he and Rausch were together for a time 126 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: in Minnesota. Think big picture on this one as well. 127 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: They need guards. Brandon SHARE's not likely to be here 128 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: because of his cap number next year, and Tyler Shatley 129 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 2: is a free agent next year. He's George the end 130 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: of his contract, and Walker Little is really a tackle 131 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: and Cam Robinson has a big number, so you need 132 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: bodies at guard. Cooper Hodges is a guy that they 133 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: have a lot of hope for, and Cleveland is a 134 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: guy who's a second round pick and is a really 135 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 2: good player. So I get it. It's a play for 136 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: today because we're focused on this season. And playing for 137 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: this season, but it's also a play for the future 138 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: because if over the next nine games he plays well, 139 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: he's the guy that you can work into your salary 140 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: structure and go forward with. He's a big guy, he's 141 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: talented guy. A lot of people that I talked to 142 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: you last week we're surprised that he gained for just 143 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: a sixth round pick, thought maybe he was worth a 144 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: little bit more than that. 145 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: And as we've seen the depth of something we definitely 146 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: need because as soon as we got Cam Robinson Backwalker 147 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: Little goes out with an injury. So this has been 148 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: an issue point for the team, so certainly doesn't hurt 149 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: to get a little extra help in that position. Our 150 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: final big thing though, is standing pat because while they 151 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: did add to the offensive line, they did not choose 152 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: to go after a pass rush. Daniel Hunter was out there. 153 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: There was talks rumors that the Daguars were involved in that, 154 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: but Brian, they decided to stay with their guys here 155 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: and not really go after a big name. 156 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: Well where in the street. Hunter was not available last week. 157 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: If they were only looking at a first round pick 158 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 2: for a guy, and no one was going to throw 159 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: that out there, especially when you saw the Commanders get 160 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: a second and a third round pick for their two 161 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: pass rushers, Kai, I think overall, since the Jaguars didn't 162 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: have two, three and four available, they weren't willing to 163 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 2: send a first round pick for a pass rusher that 164 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: might just be a short term deal for them. Plus, 165 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 2: you saw what Sweat got. He got a four year, 166 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: ninety eight million dollar deal from the Cleveland or from 167 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: the Chicago Bay and John, when you look at all 168 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: the players that the Jaguars want to pay next year, 169 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: we've talked about it. You've got quarterback, wide receiver, perhaps, 170 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: defensive back, offensive lineman, pass rusher. How are you gonna 171 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: work that huge undery into your structure with the guys 172 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: that you want to keep. 173 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 5: I mean, it's difficult. 174 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 4: It would have been difficult to bring a pass rusher 175 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: in and say, hey, pass rusher, here's a nice big contract. 176 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: Josh Allen, hang tight, you know, because you're talking around 177 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: here for the last two years about trying to pay 178 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 4: your guys and being a draft and developed team, and 179 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 4: then the first guy you pay is a trade and 180 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 4: develop Well, it gets what Brian trade develop is not drafted, 181 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 4: who trade develops, trade develop I'm also not surprised they 182 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: didn't do it, because again I keep going back, they 183 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 4: don't think that their pass rush is a weakness. They 184 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 4: think that their front seven overall, the disruption that they 185 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: create is maybe the strength of the team right now. 186 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: So I get you could have added one more piece, 187 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 4: and why didn't you go make the move? All it 188 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: says Chips all In. Well, I get Chips all In, 189 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: but I also get that Trevor Lawrence is in his 190 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: third year. Yeah, and you also envision this thing being 191 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 4: a fifteen year Trevor Lawrence window, not a twenty twenty 192 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 4: three window where it has to happen right now. Everything 193 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 4: else is nothing else matters, Briandan. They're not else man. 194 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 5: They're not in that. 195 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: Look, it's about this year because it's six and two. 196 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: You're right there, and I think everybody would say the 197 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: Jaguars are a legitimate contender, But it can't be all 198 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: about this year, especially with the players that you want 199 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: to play and John going. 200 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 5: Forward, they're also a legitimate contender with this group. What's it? Right? 201 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: Right? 202 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 5: That's it? 203 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: And you don't want to sacrifice the future for the president, 204 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: not in the third year. If he was at year 205 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: fifteen and you're trying to eke out something at the 206 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: end of his career. Well, yeah, then then you swing 207 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 2: for the fences. But I think it was a It 208 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: was predestined. You weren't going to get one of those 209 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: pass rushers for a fifth round pick, and you weren't 210 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: gonna give up your first round pick. You just weren't 211 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: gonna do it. But I think if people look at 212 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: it objectively, the salary that Sweat got in Chicago tells 213 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 2: you why the Jaguars couldn't do it right. 214 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: And if you're gonna be dishing out the money, I 215 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: would imagine you want to give that to your own 216 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: guy and Josh Allen with what he's been able to 217 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: do this season, all right, stay with us. Coming up 218 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: after the break, we're gonna look around the AFC South 219 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: because the Jags didn't play, but a whole lot of 220 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: stuff went down. Welcome back to Jags am as we 221 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: moved the freight. Move the freight. 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And the Jags 230 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: didn't play, but there was a lot of stuff going 231 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: down in the AFC South this week. On Thursday Night Football, 232 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: we saw a team we just played in the Steelers, 233 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: facing off against the Titans. And Levis had those four 234 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: touchdowns in his first game. Didn't look quite as good 235 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: in his second game, but he still seems to be 236 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: a little bit better option I'm gonna speak and say 237 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: than what they have had at quarterback, and he seems 238 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: to open up some stuff for the Titans, who look 239 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: a little bit more dangerous than they have so far 240 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: this year. 241 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: Well, Tanne Hill's in the final year of his deals, 242 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: so you're obviously not going to go forward with a 243 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 2: thirty five year old quarterback that didn't get you over 244 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: the hump. When I look at Will Levis, I see 245 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: a Ben Roethlisberger type quarterback. He's big, long, powerful as 246 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: a rocket for an arm. Now, he's not Roethlisberger, at 247 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 2: least not at this point his career obviously, but he 248 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 2: can make all the throws. What he's got to figure 249 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: out from what I hear is how to read the defense, 250 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: especially in the fourth quarter of a game in the 251 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: red zone, which he didn't do very well the other night. 252 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: But this was his second start. I mean, he he's 253 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: got a cannon. He's a nice looking player. 254 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: He'll stand in there and take a hit as well. 255 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: TJ and Watt was very complimentary of the opposing quarterback 256 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: in this game, and John, there's a lot of young 257 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the stiff all of a sudden that don't 258 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: look too bad. 259 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Levis has arm talent. He gives them a shot, 260 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 4: and most importantly for the franchise, he gives them something 261 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 4: where they probably don't have to worry about going to 262 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 4: get quarterback this offseason so they can start building now. 263 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: They feel like they can be legitimate with this guy. 264 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 4: The Colts, I think, feel the same way about Anthony Richardson. 265 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 4: There has to be major concerns with him hurt three 266 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 4: times early in his career and then out as a rookie. 267 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 4: He's got to come back and prove that that's not 268 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 4: what he is. Obviously, CJ. Stroud looked very good, didn't 269 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 4: look great the last two weeks. I'm getting a lot 270 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: of emails why can't Trevor do what CJ. Stroud did 271 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 4: because in the last five game he hasn't had to. 272 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 4: When you're down late in games, you have to throw 273 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 4: a lot. The Jaguars, remember, haven't been down in games, 274 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: so you're not gonna have four hundred and fifty yards 275 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 4: passing when you're up in the second half of games. 276 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 4: Usually those are usually these kind of games. So I'm 277 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: not worried. Jaguars fans have been bad for so long 278 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 4: that when they see another team excel, they think that 279 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 4: it's unfair that other team excels. But the Jaguars are 280 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 4: doing fine. There's anything wrong with Trevor Lawrence. 281 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 5: Just because CJ. 282 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 4: Stroud had four to seventy terror Lawrence was off, it 283 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 4: doesn't make Trevor Lawrence a bad quarter. 284 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: But not usually exclusive. Right. Look, here's the thing about Stroud, 285 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: and Jeff Loghman said this to me the week that 286 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: we saw them. He's an effortless passer. It makes it 287 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: look he makes it look pretty. He makes it look easy. 288 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: He's fearless, he loves the game. And you know what 289 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: he does. He throws out all those test scores because 290 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 2: remember that was the knock on you that he didn't 291 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: test all that well. But when you listen to his 292 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: press conferences and you hear how articulate and intelligent and 293 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: well spoken the kid is, you realize this is everything 294 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 2: that you want. The arm, the person, the leader, the intellect, 295 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: the love of the game. What I see when I 296 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: watch him is, oh boy, we're gonna have some great 297 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 2: matchups in the AFS South, especially if Levis and Richardson 298 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 2: come along. You'll go from a quarterback desert right to 299 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: the oasis. It looks like it's gonna be a lot 300 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: of fun to line up against c J. Stroud. I 301 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: say that not being the defensive coordinator obviously, but if 302 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 2: you're a fan watching these games, I mean it's it 303 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: gives you real hope that this division is going to 304 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: be a lot of fun to watch. 305 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 4: And that's how Again, a lot of Jawars fans don't 306 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 4: feel that way. It's not fair that c. J. Strouds 307 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: and the division. Look, if you're it's part of my 308 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 4: hot take too. But if you're going to win the division, 309 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 4: it's not always going to be and it's not supposed 310 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: to be one team thirteen and four, right, and the 311 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 4: other team seven and may not seven and ten. This 312 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 4: is a hard league. You're supposed to have division rivalries 313 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 4: at the end. You're supposed to have stuff that's fun. 314 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 5: It's okay for c. J. Strow to be good. 315 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 2: The Jaguars can be bad, just a little perspective. I 316 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: can only think of two rookie quarterbacks where I went 317 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: whoa one was Roethlisberger who I mentioned earlier, who got 318 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: into the lineup, started as the third quarterback in two 319 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: thousand and four. Charlie Batch gets hurt, Tommy Maddox doesn't 320 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: play well. He goes in and they win thirteen games right, 321 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: eleven regular season, and he gets them to the AFC 322 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: Championship game where they lose to Tom Brady and the Patriots. 323 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: Of course he step that team had four Hall of 324 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: famers on it already, Jerome Bettis, Hines Ward, Alan Fanica, 325 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: and Troy Polamalu. So right then you get and it 326 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: wasn't really his rookie season. It was Pat Mahomes, who 327 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: started only one game as a rookie at the end 328 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: of the year, and then he gets into twenty eighteen. Johnny, 329 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: you think, well, he's gonna struggle, this is his first 330 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: year as a starter. Well he didn't. He took that 331 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: team to the AFC Championship Game. I don't think CJ. 332 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: Stroud's going to do that. The roster isn't good enough 333 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: in Houston. But it's good enough for him to go 334 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: and do something like that after two bad games, and 335 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: to do it again. We see them in a couple 336 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: of weeks. I mean that he's really talented, really good. 337 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: And it doesn't take anything away from Trevor Lawrence either. 338 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: I think sometimes we have to forget people like all, 339 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: but I'm like, no, it's a good thing. It's a 340 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: good thing. You're going to be facing off against other 341 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: good quarterbacks in your own division. We talked about Iron 342 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: Sharpen's iron out here all the time. That's exactly what 343 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: you're going to see, especially when you're going up against 344 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: someone that you know you could be in a shootout 345 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: every time you have a game. When you'd see Tom 346 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: Brady and Peyton Manning in those shootouts, that made them better. 347 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: And then here's behind the scenes right, how the sausage 348 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: is made. The Texans are not a big draw when 349 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: they come here. They don't sell a ton of tickets 350 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: when they come here. The Jaguars usually. Last year the 351 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: Texans game was the salute to No sorry that sclute service. 352 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: It was the Baselli game. They wanted to sell more tickets, 353 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: so they had Biselli's bust here and they had the 354 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: alumni here. If that quarterback plays like that, you'll sell 355 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: tickets to the Texans game. It helps everybody. When you've 356 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: got good quarterback play in the division. 357 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: It's definitely a good thing elsewhere in the division. We've 358 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: been talking about the Colts a little bit, maybe outperforming 359 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: than what we thought they were going to do, especially 360 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: with Anthony Richardson not going to be available for the 361 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: rest of the season. But how about this defense we 362 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: saw from them. Kennymore had two pick six touchdowns for them. 363 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: I know Gardner Minshew's some more familiar with he's managing 364 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: the game as manages a game, but when you get 365 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: two pick six is from your defense, you're probably gonna 366 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: win a football game. And from the same guy as well. 367 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: Part of that's Bryce Young. Having Bryce Young rookie moments, 368 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: but still that is impressive. 369 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: Jaguars fans might be complaining about c J. Stroud, but 370 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: if you're a panther span you have to be complaining. 371 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: And we took Bryce Young who has not looked impressive 372 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: yet this year. 373 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: He hasn't and it's a tough situation to be in. 374 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: And I'm a big proponent of you know, I don't 375 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: expect rookies to come out and light the world on fire, either, 376 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: so I think there's still time for Bryce Young. But 377 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't help when c J. Stroud is doing what 378 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: he's been doing. 379 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 5: Yeah the past right. 380 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: I mean, it was a nice play with a Colt Savender, 381 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: but it was also a phone right to him and 382 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 4: he ran it back. So I think the Colts should 383 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 4: be in the Jaguars rear view for the rest of 384 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 4: the year. 385 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 5: They've swept him. 386 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: Jaguars have a lead unless something goes very wrong, and 387 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 4: I worry about the Colts. The Texans are the team 388 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 4: that because they beat Jaguars here, the Jaguars still have 389 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 4: some work to do the sort of put them in 390 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: the rear views. So beating them a couple of. 391 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 5: Weeks, yeah, that's the work. 392 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: That is the work all right, stay with us. We've 393 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: got hot takes coming up after the break. Here on 394 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: jags am, you can sign up for your furry friend 395 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars Official Four Legged Fan Club for pets 396 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: presented by Forever Bets Animal Hospital. 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In your hot take this. 406 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 2: Week, Jaguars fans be thankful for Trevor Lawrence. There was 407 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 2: a lot of bad and backup quarterback play yesterday. Let 408 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 2: me just go through the list of guys. Sam Howe 409 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: for the Commanders, Mac Jones for the Patriots, Tommy DeVito 410 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 2: for the Giants. Aiden O'Connell didn't play badly for the Raiders, 411 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 2: but Aidan O'Connell, Tyler, Heineke, Clayton Tune, congratulations to Josh Dobbs, 412 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 2: Brett Rippin, Tyler Bagen, Tyson badget the quarterback for the Bears. 413 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: You get journeymen like Gardner Minshew, Jimmy Garoppolo, Derek Carr. 414 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: In other words, there are lots. 415 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 5: Of teams they Cody Kessler play he should right. 416 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the list, right, A bunch of guys, 417 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: none of whom you want as your starting quarterback. None 418 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 2: of these guys you want as your starting quarterback. And 419 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: the league yesterday had a lot of these guys in 420 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: the same game. And how about in Deshaun Watson back 421 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 2: before you're playing PJ. Walker. There are John There's always 422 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: been a few of quarterbacks. You win because of a 423 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: lot of quarterbacks you can win with, and then some 424 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: quarterbacks that you don't want, right And there are more 425 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 2: quarterbacks who you don't want on the on the field 426 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: right now than the quarterbacks that you can win with, 427 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 2: let alone the ones you win because a lot of 428 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: really apt merged to below average quarterback play. You don't 429 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: have that problem here. You have a quarterback on a 430 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: team that twenty five in a row, hasn't trailed in 431 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: the second half and just playing at a high level. 432 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 4: And it's very separated, right, I mean it's it's it's 433 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, the Chiefs, oh guess what, they're good, Lamar 434 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 4: Jackson and the Ravens Eri. So it's it's always a quarterback league. 435 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 4: But the solid franchises look really solid there. And it's 436 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 4: as you said watching it yesterday, what's hard to imagine 437 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 4: is it's hard to imagine a team without a guy 438 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 4: right now getting up into that group that it'll happen. 439 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 4: Somebody will be playing in the last six or eight, 440 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 4: teams that were not expecting. Maybe the Vikings, they're hot, 441 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 4: but it's hard to imagine anything sustainable if you're not 442 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 4: talking about one of those franchise with a guy right now. 443 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and look not to pick on Gardner Minshew, but 444 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 2: Kenny Moore had more return yards than Garden Minshew had 445 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: matching yards yesterday, right. 446 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: And how about this touchdowns as well? 447 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 2: And how about next week? You know, yesterday you had 448 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: a Premier matchup in Frankfurt for the international game, you 449 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: had Patrick Mahomes and Tua Right next week you have 450 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew and Mac Jones. That's a big step down in. 451 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: That premiere game. John, I know you have a hot 452 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: take one related to that. Would you see that game? 453 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 5: Well, the Chiefs still look like the Chiefs. They still 454 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 5: look like the team to beat. 455 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 4: They look to me like the team that will probably 456 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 4: be hosting throughout the playoffs. I mean that's not a given, 457 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 4: but if you had to pick a team right now, 458 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 4: they and the Ravens have the best record chief of 459 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 4: host of the AC champion in game five years. 460 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 5: They look like the team to be good. Go beat them. 461 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 4: And this is sort of I'm probably angry with my 462 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 4: inbox a little bit because I always get these email. Oh, 463 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 4: the Chiefs look like they're a team. They have Patrick Mahomes. Again, 464 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 4: we're not gonna be able to go ahead and get that. 465 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 4: If you're going to get to where you want to 466 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 4: go in this league, you're gonna have beat good teams 467 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 4: to get there. If the Chiefs aren't good, somebody else 468 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: can be good. If the Texans aren't good, somebody else 469 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 4: is gonna be good. So stop worrying so much about 470 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 4: what the rest of the league does and realize that 471 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 4: if the Jaguars win they're six and two right now, 472 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 4: they have nine games left. If they go seven and 473 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 4: two over that stretch, they're thirteen and four, and I 474 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 4: would give them a coin flip's chance to have a 475 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 4: number one seed or number two. 476 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 5: Well, that gets you in the mix. Go win. 477 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 4: Cincinnati won and Kansas City a couple of years, so 478 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 4: it's it doesn't. All teams that have won the Super 479 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 4: Bowl have beaten two or three good teams to get there. 480 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 4: You're gonna have to beat somebody good. It may as 481 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 4: well be the Chiefs. 482 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: By the way, you mentioned that they've hosted five consecutive 483 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: basically title games, so three and two of those games, 484 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 2: not five and all right, the Patriots got them and Cincinnati, 485 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 2: Cincinnati got them. And you know, Kansas City won yesterday 486 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: not because Patrick Mahomes was on fire. They won because 487 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: their defense, I mean absolutely put the clamps on Tua 488 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 2: and Tyreek and that crowd. They didn't score the Chiefs 489 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: a touchdown in the second half, even when the game 490 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: got close, they didn't score. In fact, they went three 491 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: and out on a critical series late in the ballgame 492 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: that put the ball back in the hands of Tua 493 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: and Miami, and they didn't get it done. So Kancy's 494 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: really good because that quarterback can play at a very 495 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 2: high level. But they're not the same as they've been 496 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: in years past. They don't have those other receivers that 497 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: can take advantage of the downfield attack. Yesterday, the Dolphins 498 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: threw a lot at the tight end and Kelsey was 499 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 2: not as big a factor, but none of the other 500 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: receivers were either, So it was their defense that wanted 501 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 2: four yesterday. If you can put points up, if your 502 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: offense get started, you can run with those guys. 503 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, not looking past this Sunday's game because obviously, yeah, 504 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 4: forty nine ers are as good as any team the 505 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 4: Gyrars to play this year, but the Bengals Ravens here, 506 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 4: probably even more than the Chiefs because the Chiefs was 507 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 4: so early. It's hard to call an early season game 508 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 4: of benchmark because so much changes as the year goes on. 509 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: Those two games against those two teams are as big 510 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 4: a regular season stretched as the Jaguars have had. 511 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 5: Whatever. 512 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh no, you are exactly right. Two home 513 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: games in three weeks in primetime in December again for 514 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 2: those kind of teams for home field in the in 515 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: the AFC. Oh yeah, that is easily far and away 516 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 2: the biggest stretch of games on a Jaguars schedule in 517 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: their franchise. 518 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 4: And I think if you look back, I think that's 519 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 4: because when they were really good in the nineties, the 520 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 4: schedule wasn't quite set up and there were three divisions, 521 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken, remember that right, So you didn't 522 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 4: quite have this one plays one three different times in 523 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 4: the schedule, fore most different the way you do now. 524 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 4: So now you're gonna play those, So it sets up 525 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 4: for more games like this. 526 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 5: And the Jaguars, I guess what. 527 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: They're good And just one final thought on that. The Ravens. 528 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 2: Their offense they almost ran for three hundred yard yesterday, 529 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety eight, and their defense is so good, 530 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 2: and they have dominant wins over Seattle, who would look 531 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 2: good to this point, and Detroit, who looked great to 532 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: the point that they went and got hammered by those guys. 533 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: I think, I think Baltimore might be the best team 534 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: in the league right now. 535 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: They are, and I think or I think they're one 536 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: of the hottest teams. Is what I will speak to, 537 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: because you know, we've seen the Chiefs win games, but 538 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: they're doing in different ways. They're not doing it necessarily 539 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes doing crazy things. But you know, no one's 540 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: ragging on them for that as much as they rag 541 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: on Trevor for not doing things when we work because 542 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: they have the resume, I know, and they've earned it, 543 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: so I won't rag on that in that regard. But 544 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: Jaguars don't get a ton of respect. And my hot 545 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: take is about the disrespect. I think it's a good 546 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: thing because it builds character. Right, we've been hearing I've 547 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: been seeing that graphic on Twitter all the time with 548 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: Mac Jones compared to Trevor Lawrence. They're three seasons together, 549 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: and how they're pretty much the same quarterback. Everybody's talking 550 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: about the Texans and how they're going to give them 551 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: a run in the AFC South. You know, a whole 552 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: bunch of other things. I think they're is that they 553 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: were voted like the worst six and two team when 554 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: they were going over that last week, and it's a 555 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: good thing for this team. Yes, there should be expectations 556 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville. We want them to win, but I 557 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: think they thrive off that. Maybe I'm just the petty 558 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: kind of person I thrive off of it when people 559 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 1: talk down about me or my team, and I think 560 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: the team thrives off that too. You can see it 561 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: whenever there was there's any football in Trevor's coming out 562 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: and getting a little saucy on Twitter about you know, 563 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: we'll just find ways to win and they can criticize 564 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: how I play. The Jaguars have that little bit of 565 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: a chip on their shoulder from that, whether they'll admit 566 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: it or not, or even those two games that they 567 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: lost when they lost to the Texans and the Chiefs 568 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: right there, and then they kind of took that got 569 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: back on track with things. And I think this little 570 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: run that they have. They're already underdogs to the forty 571 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: nine ers this week on Sunday when they're playing at home, 572 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: and I think that'll drive them to be a little bit. 573 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: We'll it take it up a little bit. As we've 574 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: seen them going throughout the season, they're improving every week 575 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna be continuing to do that. 576 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 4: Start One thought on on on this worst six and 577 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 4: two teams in the NFL. 578 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 5: First, they're still better than all the other thing is 579 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 5: that coming. 580 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: From Jaguars fans. 581 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: No, No, No, it was like they were doing like a 582 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: like a lot of the different pundons were doing like, oh, 583 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: of all the six and two teams, and they're like, well, 584 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: I can't trusts because they're the jaguars'n't trust don't trust it. 585 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: If you. 586 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 4: The six teams they've beaten, if the teams that they 587 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 4: beat would have won those games, every team they've played 588 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 4: would be over five hundred. Series are five and three, 589 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 4: Saints are five and four. 590 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 5: You know, so to me, this has not been a 591 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 5: soft schedule. 592 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 4: This has been a not a great schedule so far, 593 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 4: but you would feel differently about these teams. If the 594 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 4: Jarares hadn't beaten Seis would be six and two without 595 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 4: that and everybody talking about him as a hot team. So 596 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 4: Jags to take care of business against some uh not great, 597 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 4: but good teams the last five weeks. 598 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: The best thing about it is you get a chance 599 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: to go proven on Sunday by San Francisco. 600 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: Sure will previous what coming up the rest of me 601 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: Karen jaxxam Jags fans. If you want customize Jaguars furniture 602 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: for your home, check out zip chare dot com to 603 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: browse all of the customizable options. ZIP chair is furniture 604 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: for fans back here getting ready for the forty nine 605 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: Ers game on Sunday. That's going to be a good one. 606 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: I've been looking. I had that one of the ones 607 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: circled on my schedule. For sure, it's not a primetime one, 608 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: but it's going to have that primetime feel even with 609 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: whatever the forty nine ers are rolling out there, because 610 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: I know they've been dealing with a lot of injuries. 611 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: That's going to be a great matchup and just kind 612 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: of a measuring state game as well. 613 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: Brian, it is primarily for your offense because even though 614 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: you can look at the Niners and how they've struggled 615 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: to score the last couple of weeks, and how Brock 616 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: Purdy has had to play from behind for the first 617 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: time in his career and hasn't necessarily performed up to 618 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: the level that he did last year, their defense is well, 619 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: it's one player better now that you've got the pass 620 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: rusher from Washington added in there and Nick Bosa. The 621 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: last time we saw Nick Bosa he year, he was devastating. 622 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: Juwan Taylor had to block him and Juwan was constantly 623 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: in Trevor's back pocket. This was in two years ago, 624 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, and there they George Joon Hargrag 625 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: the eighty million dollar tackle that they plugged in there 626 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: from Philadelphia last year. Fred Warner. I mean, they're just 627 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 2: they're gifted at every level with two or three players, 628 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: so your offense is going to have to be ready 629 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: to go. 630 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it's a big game for the 631 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 4: Jaguars defense because what you just talked about will be 632 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 4: a storyline this week. Oh the forty nine ers defense 633 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 4: is this, this, and this. I don't think the Jaguars 634 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 4: defense will get talked about very much, but they're good 635 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 4: and it'll be a game where the Jaguars defense can 636 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 4: show that we can hang with this keviny what they get. 637 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: I think they get Deebo Shamuels back this week, right, 638 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: because he's been he's been that guy who's been that 639 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: trigger point is he's gonna run the ball, you're gonna 640 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: throw it to him. We saw him again at twenty 641 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: twenty one and he took the Jaguars defense apart that year. 642 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: So Brandon Ayuk has come and he's playing at a 643 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: high level. Kittle is one of the best, most difficult 644 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: to cover tight ends in the game. It's a big challenge. 645 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: This is a really good football team that hit a 646 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: rough stretch. They remember they beat the Cowboys on Sunday 647 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: Night Football forty to ten and you thought, oh, oh, 648 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: you know who's gonna get in their way? Well, a 649 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: couple of teams have since then. Remember the Bills came 650 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: to London and everyone thought, well, I mean they're scoring 651 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: forty one points and only giving up ten. The Jaguars 652 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: got in their way, So here's a chance to go 653 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: and do it again. 654 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: Should be interesting, and hopefully the Jaguars have had some 655 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: time to get healthy in the bye week as well, 656 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: because we know Tyson cambell Andr Cisco Walker little of course, 657 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: so hopefully all of them will be back and then 658 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: we'll get to see both these teams at full strength 659 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: or close to it in this matchup on Sunday. Coming 660 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: up later in the week, we'll talk more about that 661 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: forty nine ers matchup. We'll see you back here on 662 00:29:45,280 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: Jagsam on Wednesday in compete in still p