1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Which may may have led to the officer informare a 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: listener that he himself was just listening to the Bent 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: podcast in his patrol car. She did a big hard 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: whip down with a rod and spun the hopper up, 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: and I turned around and he had it pinned like 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: a hitler must have in his upper lip. And then, um, 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a sale bin that. That brings to 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: mind one of my favorite hip hop songs, Pistol Grip Pump, 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: which is on my lap at all times. Cops listen 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: to this good morning to generate anglers, and welcome to Bent, 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: the fishing podcast that really hates golf but has a 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: hard time denying the similarities between it and angling. I'm Joe, 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: Sir Melie, and I'm hating samac and I'm failing to 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: like see the connection beyond people like feeling the need 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: to wear various like logo wear in order to in 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: like flex on the folks around him. That's a You're 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: not wrong, that's that's correct. Uh yeah, but I'm you know, 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: I'm leaning into the analogy a bit today because, um, 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: of a few listener messages that I've gotten recently, one 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: of which we're actually gonna touch on in the bent 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: helpline later, but but the gist of them is this, Right, 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: people often want to know what is the one rod 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: and reel you need to do everything? And my my 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: answer is always, um, you can have one rod and 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: reel that will do a lot, but not everything. And 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: that's sort of part of the golf tie in. Right. Conversely, 27 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: whenever somebody looks in my garage at all my rods 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: and says, like, what the hell do you need that 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: many rods for, my answer is because you don't play 30 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: team holes of golf with with nothing but a driver, right, 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: you could, but are you going to be as effective? No, 32 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: you're not. Yeah, but you don't do them all in 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: one day. I get what you're saying, but I also 34 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: like sympathize with the mindset of a beginner because you 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: have to start somewhere, and like, if there's like one 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: thing that you ought not to do when you get 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: into a hobby is just like blow your entire budget 38 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: for like next four years on a bunch of stuff 39 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: that like you're gonna use one time or whatever. Like 40 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: I remember when I first started out, man, I bought 41 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: like a seven weight steel head rod, ended up using 42 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: it a lot, But like there was absolutely like a 43 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: scenario before I could drive and I had that rod 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: where it was like time to break out the steel 45 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: head rod that I could have just rented from the shop. 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: You're right, you're right, right, and and and I think 47 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: that that is true, like everybody does have to start somewhere. 48 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: But I think the broader thing I'm trying to say 49 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: here is is as you grow as a fisherman, it's 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: important to develop sort of like a sense of of 51 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: like the system and the weights and measures that that 52 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: that at play here to really be effective. And and 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: for like a lot of non devout anglers, like dabblers, 54 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: I think there's a sense that I just need a 55 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: rod in reel some tenttown tests and I'm good, And 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: you are good if you're okay always staying in the 57 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: parameters that year right, Like you know, I look at 58 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: it like, you know, if you just want to stay 59 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: at the driving range that's where you're happiest, then cool, 60 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: it's all it's all good, you know what I mean. Yeah, 61 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: So I I get that like fishing and pocket water 62 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: is like putting or like I don't know that you 63 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: need the right club to be effective there. Yeah. Another 64 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: I hate this metaphor so much it's funny because I 65 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: hate golf anyway. Um. But another analogy I can draw though, 66 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: is the idea of like a golf bag. And I'm 67 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: not a crazy large amounth fisherman, but I have been 68 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: lucky enough to fish with a few large amounth pros 69 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: over the years. And those guys are straight up, man, 70 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: they are golfing on the water right. They have all 71 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: their clubs laid out and they chip here and put 72 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: there and drive here. And I have adopted that method hardcore. 73 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: It's like my one takeaway from fishing with some pro 74 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: bass guys. It is extremely rare for me to go 75 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: out fishing and only carry one rod. Three is more 76 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: like it, because I want to have a Senko or 77 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: whatever on one, and a poper on this one, a 78 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: jerk bait on on this one, and they might all 79 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: have different lines and leaders and actions, but for the 80 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: sake of efficiency in covering water, I don't want to 81 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: retie three times at one hole, you know what I mean? Like, 82 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: I just want to cover it and move along. Yeah, 83 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: I mean, like I get that out of a boat. 84 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: But isn't that like a total pain in the ask 85 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: to carry three rods. I mean, well, I'm phrasing like 86 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: a question. What I mean is it's a total pain 87 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: in the ask to carry three rods. It can be, right, 88 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 1: not usually, like you said, on a boat, no issue 89 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: at all, dude. Like i go out of my my 90 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: little drift boat and I've got like thirteen rods jammed 91 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: down the sides. Um And for most bank fishing, if 92 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: you're just working a bank, it's not that big a 93 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: deal either. But the only time I'll have one rod 94 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: usually is if I'm waiting and I know I'll be 95 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: in the water most of the time, like summer smally waiting, 96 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: I put the bare essentials in one chest pack or 97 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: hip pack or whatever and wade with one rod because 98 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: I will be in the stream most of the time. Otherwise, 99 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't find it that that inconvenient. Yeah, I mean, 100 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: like that's more my style. In fact, what I do 101 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: a lot when I'm like trout fishing is I'll have 102 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: one rod that's not exactly what I want for everything, right, 103 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: But then I'll have like a couple of reels with 104 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: like different spools on them, right, So I'll go out 105 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: and I'll if I wanted to like trout fish, I'm 106 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: eurim thing right, I'll have my like euro set up, 107 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: but in my in my bag, I'll have like a 108 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: wait forward floating all spooled up so that way, if 109 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: it's too windy I want to fish an indicator, I 110 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: can move over to that. Or if I see a 111 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: little dry fly action it's not perfect for it, but 112 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: it's like good enough. Um, but this all goes to, Uh, 113 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: this is leading me to the point that not all 114 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: of us can afford an arsenal of rods Joe. Not 115 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: all of us are, at least of all you, I understand. 116 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm just look, look all I'm doing here. I'm just 117 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: passing along an approach, right, It's just something to think about, 118 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: That's all. I do. Believe that efficiency and maximum time 119 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: with a line in the water catches the most fish, right, 120 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: regardless of species, regardless of what you're doing. Um, I 121 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: think you know efficiency and keeping lines in like you, 122 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: you should train yourself to maximize that also, regardless of 123 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: your budget. Our sponsor thirteen Fishing at least has a 124 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: lure anyone can afford for pretty much any species. Well. Um, 125 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: but I'll also point out that as far as like 126 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: high quality, budget friendly like outfits like that's also something 127 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: that thirteen fishing is good for. So you bought up 128 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: wet waiting Smalley's that's something I want to do more of. What, um, 129 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: what would your ideal outfit look like? For that ideal 130 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: outfit for that, that's what's in my pack. Well, okay, 131 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna go through the entire pack, but 132 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: I do I will whittle that down. We're just talking, folks. 133 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: That's that's where the general to my small fac right. Yeah, 134 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: uh from thirteen the first and foremost for that, the 135 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: whipper snapper that is like the smallest jerk bait that 136 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 1: they make, um perfect for moving water, and the model 137 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: that dives three to five feet is might go to. 138 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: This would also come in very handy for trout. Of course. 139 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: It's one of those baits like you barely touch the line, 140 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: like you just barely snap it and it darts all 141 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: over the place. And in terms of an outfit like 142 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: anything in that like six and a half to I 143 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, maybe seven foot um light or 144 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: ultra light range for summertime waiting, you know, ten pound braid, 145 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: something like that travel light, one little spool of eight 146 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: pound floral leader, and it looks like he's packing out 147 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: and elk with all the ship he has in his bag. 148 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: Now it's you would think that, And there was a 149 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: time in my life when that was true. Miles and 150 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: I talked about that a long time ago. How like 151 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: you're seventeen and you have more you know what it's like? 152 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: Four fly two is poking out of your backpack and 153 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: like one spinning rod in your belt and one in 154 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: your hands. Now not anymore. I do like I do 155 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: like your small mouth set up recommendations, and I will 156 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: be uh. I I never sent out that email to 157 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: thirteen that I promised I was going to send out 158 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: last week, So oh man, I'll have to be uh. 159 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: I'll have to be tacking that onto my order. Good 160 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: good anyway, So let's we'll do this. Well, let's switch 161 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: off conventional must haves for a minute, um and talk 162 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: about flying must have, particularly if you tie your own bugs. 163 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: I've always got bucktail on hand. Rabbit strips, those are 164 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: a must, right, But if you ever tied with raccoon? Um? 165 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: Have I ever died with raccoon? Um? You know? No, 166 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: the clothes I've ever gotten to tying with raccoon? Is 167 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: I used to tie with a dubbing from I think 168 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: like an Australian possum. Okay, I'm sure that they're they're similar. 169 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: Probably both only come out at night. Anyway, if you 170 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: need some raccoon and guide. If you need some, perhaps 171 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: our friend and guide Bart Land where it can help 172 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: and he'll tell you where his supply came from in 173 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: this week's Smooth Move segment. Why Why So, I'm very 174 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: excited today for our Smooth Moves guests. Some of you 175 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: might remember Tim landword of of Tight Lines uh Fly 176 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Fishing company out there in in Wisconsin. Um, he's not here, 177 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: even though he's he's done several segments and and co 178 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: hosted the show. We have we have his cousin to 179 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: start by introducing. So we have his cousin Land Where. 180 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: And I'm going to give you bart a few seconds 181 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: to explain why you are the better land where? Why 182 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: are you the better land where than Tim Land? Work? Well? 183 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: Smarter for sure, okay, obviously better looking. I can vouch 184 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: for that. You are a good looking man. Yeah. On 185 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: a fishy level, I might be a little bit fisher 186 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: than him. I'm not sure better keg stand you were 187 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: Tim land work. He's got a problem. Okay, all right, 188 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: we won't we and dragging? Kidding? Of course I got 189 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: to hang out with bart um the same time I 190 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: hung out with him, and we were filming dost Boat 191 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: season two up on the man Nominee River. Um, and 192 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: you know we we I said, we had Tim on 193 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: and he's always been like, man, you gotta call bart 194 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: because if you need smooth moves like, he's got some 195 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: up stories. I think that's exactly how he put it. So, 196 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: um yeah, man, Just so I know how long Tim 197 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: has been goting, how long you've been goting? How long 198 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: have you been in the game? Uh the year twenty one? 199 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: I think twenty one years? Okay, all right, So I'm 200 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: just gonna give you the floor man. And and I've 201 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: drank with both. I've drank with you in a garage, 202 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: which was fun. It was like the one eight on 203 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: the video shoot. We drank too much and then couldn't 204 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: like we didn't. We were not as functional the next 205 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: day as we should have been. Um, but I'm gonna 206 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: give you the floor. Dude, hit it hit us with 207 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: a smooth move. The w t f moment from twenty 208 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: one years guiding that sticks out the most, All right, 209 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: sticks out the most. I've got a lot of stories, 210 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: but I'm trying to think of on that would be 211 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: a little different. Yeah, And the one I came up 212 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: with was a trip I took god Is, probably ten 213 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: years ago with a couple who were an older couple 214 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: from Chicago, very urban people love the idea of the outdoors, 215 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: love the idea of nature, and they wanted to see 216 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: that just didn't really experience it much or know anything about. 217 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: They didn't know as much about it as it really is. Right, 218 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: So they come up for the day and they want 219 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: to see the most beautiful part of the river and 220 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: they want to see all this great stuff and catch fish. 221 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: So I set it up. We have a perfect where 222 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: where is this Wisconsin? So I took him to a 223 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: spot on the river that is not developed at all. 224 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: There's no cabins. It dials up, you guys. It's a 225 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: perfect like seventy eight degree day, no wind, perfect smallmouth weather, 226 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: little humid. So we start off and everything is. They're 227 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: enjoying the hell out of it. We've got perfect weather, 228 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: we've got happy fish. We see a deer early. You know, 229 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: everything's great, We're having the best time, and I'm literally 230 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: looking for anything Flora fun and related I can show 231 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: them to give him a piece of the great Northern experience. Right, 232 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: is that because you questioned whether they'd actually be able 233 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: to catch the fish? Yeah, you have that, And and 234 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: they weren't stellar, but they were hard workers and we 235 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: were having a great time and the super nice people 236 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: and everything was Remember Caddy Shack, Remember the old Caddy 237 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: shack that go golfing and everything is the greatest. And 238 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: that's a peach hun and the husband life. That's who 239 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: they reminded me of, right, because everything she did he 240 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: would compliment her, and vice versa and ad nauseam. Right, 241 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: but we're still having a great time. It's a lot 242 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: nicer than the alter. So I'm enjoyed by samm Gladys. Right. 243 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: So like midway through the morning, I'm a quarter of 244 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: the way into the float and there's no one around. 245 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: It's perfect day. And I started hearing a dog barking. 246 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: So there's some bends coming in the river, and I 247 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: figure we're gonna make a bend and we're gonna have 248 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: someone with a canoe and their dog, or they're on 249 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: the river hanging out. So we're talking, oh, somebody must 250 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: be up here. We make this bend and I'm here 251 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: in the barking intensifying, I can't see a dog, so 252 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm kind of now they're fishing. I'm watching river right 253 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: and the river has come down. It's early August, mid 254 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: August maybe, and the root wads on the base of 255 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: the trees are kind of all exposed on the river bank, 256 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I see the back end 257 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: of a dog that's hung up in this root ball 258 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: and barking its head off. So you're trying to figure 259 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: out what the hell is going on right now. So 260 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, all right, something's wrong with this dog. Is 261 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: he called as he hung up? Is he in distress? 262 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: They're asking me questions that I can't answer, So I'm like, 263 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: all right, guys, check it out. We're gonna reel up 264 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: and we're gonna roll over and see what's going on. 265 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: And they go cool. So they reel up their stuff, 266 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: and I start kind of pushing rolling over to this 267 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: dog and as I'm approaching, he's just intensely barking under 268 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: this tree, and I'm starting to question whether or not 269 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: he's stuck. As we get over there, I'm close. Now 270 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: he's not stuck. He's underneath this blowdown, and another dog 271 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: appears on the bank. The second dog is a home 272 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: with a big whip antenna on his neck. Well in Wisconsin, 273 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: late July and early August, the bear hunters, they run 274 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: their dogs. But what they found and we're interested in, 275 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: was about to happen right in front of us. At 276 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: about twenty I can't get away from it, and the 277 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: one dog and the other dog dive in and they 278 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: come out with a raccoon and proceed to eviscerated from us. 279 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: So this is a two minute not even this is 280 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: probably forty seconds, but it feels like an hour and 281 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: a half. It's blood hair, snarling, squealing, screaming, and they stop. 282 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: One of them looks over at me and starts where 283 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: I can his tail kind of comes up, smells the boat. 284 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: The other one's happy as a clam. Meanwhile, there's a 285 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: raccoon in its death throws rolling in the shallows, and 286 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: every time it comes up it's making noise and going 287 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: back up is dying. And at this moment, what what 288 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: if you had to imitate this noise. What would it be. 289 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that, come on, because think are a 290 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: really nasty, bad noise. So I'm just watching what's unfolding 291 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: in front of me, and I'm like, okay, dogs and 292 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: they bounce away, they're gone, and here's this raccoon dying 293 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: yet the water's got blood in it. And then I 294 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: realized I got people with me, and I look up 295 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: and they are pale, speechless. The wife's mouth is a gape, obviously, 296 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: and I don't even what the hell do you say 297 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: to him? And I go, uh, for lunch, that's what 298 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, you guys, ready for a sandwich. So I'm like, well, um, 299 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: that's the reality of nature. Some ship you say, you 300 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: don't know what to say a right? So as I 301 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: started to bite my oars in to pull off the 302 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: bank and leave the situation, the woman goes, is that 303 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: another one? And I look up on the bank. There 304 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: was like four little rulings that were with mom and 305 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: they must all been in there, and the dogs killed 306 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: them all. It was awful and I'm not messing around you, guys. 307 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: It was like lunchtime right there. Lunch brots right here, guys, 308 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: let's go out of sand much the reality of nature, folks, Well, 309 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: it is the reality of nature, except that the dogs 310 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: weren't really like wild It wasn't like wild animal. Well 311 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: it was kind of manufactured, you know. So how so 312 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: did they eat their lunch or just have like one 313 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: bite or just sort of poke around the tuna sandwich 314 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: or it was the rest of the day it was quiet. 315 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: People were have been concerned with what they'd experienced. And 316 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you I do have the backup end of 317 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: that stories. Right out of lunch, we came out and 318 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: we got going again, and the weather's nice, and that 319 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: raccoon is dead along behind us, and the fishing actually 320 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: got pretty damn good. Right, Yeah, things were hungry. So 321 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: we were fishing hopper patterns, first of all, mouth and 322 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: they were crushing, and the lady was in the front 323 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: of the boat and she could not hook fish. And 324 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: her husband, who was so flattering to her all day, 325 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: it became an annoyance to her because he was, oh, 326 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: you get him next time, and he kept hooking up. 327 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: And at one point, and I don't know if it 328 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: was because the raccoon had a little miffed and upset 329 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: and everything, but she had a fish come up after 330 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: about the tenth miss fish, and she did a big 331 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: hard whip down with a rod and spun the hopper 332 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: up and I heard him squirrel behind me, and I 333 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: turned around and he had it pinned like a Hitler 334 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: mustache in his upper lip. So I just turned around 335 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: before he could do anything. He said, don't wait, and 336 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: I just put my hand in his face and took 337 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: it out right away. Wow, man, that was a two. 338 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: That was a two fur right there. Yeah. Do you 339 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: know what he reminds me? A man? Like One of 340 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: the many times I've ever seen like dog led destruction 341 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: like that was it was like early spring, and uh, 342 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: we were doing like some like yard work around my 343 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: house and my mother is in like this like front 344 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: garden that we have. There's like me, my dad. You know, 345 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: we're like in bad because my brother and my mom 346 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: they were in front. Comes around all exide, you know, 347 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: the dogs running around, and she comes out, come, look, come, look, 348 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: there are baby rabbits. By the time we got there 349 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: in her absence, the dog went right over and just 350 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: destroyed the entire net. Had similar things happen, and also 351 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: like do you know, like if a baby rabbit is 352 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: sick or something I think like the mom will actually 353 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: eat it to get rid of it. I did not 354 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: know that. Like I've had baby rabbits in the yard, 355 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: and like there'd be like one all of a sudden 356 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: one day, like one's not there and it's just like 357 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: eaten in half, but like nibbles, tiny nibbles. It was 358 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: the rabbits. Rabbits. You might want to qualify that one 359 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: a little. This ship just got all really weird, ben listeners, 360 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: do mother rabbits eat their babies if one of them 361 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: is sick? And like can't? I don't. I don't know anyway, 362 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: did those people come back? They happen back? Good? Do 363 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: they do? They? Are they on guard now for the nature? 364 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: Do they still love the nature as much as they 365 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: thought they did? I think they understand nature a little 366 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: bit more so. How do you like that one? Meat 367 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: eaters this role? That's what that was? Anyway? Huge thanks 368 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: to Bart for sharing that one. He's just out there 369 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: hammering small jaws and scaring old people for life. So well, 370 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: in case you haven't had enough carnage, sit back and 371 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: listen to Joe and I tear each other to pieces 372 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: in the Virtual Raptor Paddock. We like to call fish 373 00:19:53,760 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: news fish news. That escalated quickly. So here's a little 374 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: fun shout out caveat being. We're gonna exclude names and 375 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: states as a matter of protection, which and this is 376 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: the first on Ben, but it's all gonna make sense 377 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: because we need not call anyone out for fear of 378 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: judgment nor getting anyone in trouble. And I would like 379 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: to point out that I I whatever Joe was about 380 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: to like drop on y'all. I'm not proving to it now. 381 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: This came through Instagram, but I got I got this 382 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: note from a listener on Instagram who told me he 383 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: may or may not have gotten pulled over recently on 384 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: his way home from a fishing trip, and he may 385 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: or may not have have recently partaken uh in the 386 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: consumption of we'll say CBD products if you catch what's 387 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: swirling around in my bond water. And since we're not 388 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: talking about the gummies here, there may or may not 389 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: have been a noticeable odor in his vehicle which the 390 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 1: officer that pulled him over smelled. Anyway, the officer may 391 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: or may not have noticed the fishing gear in the car, 392 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: which may or may not have quickly morphed the convo 393 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: from CBD products to local fishing, which may may have 394 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: led to the officer in form are a listener that 395 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: he himself was just listening to the Bent podcast in 396 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: his patrol car. Cops listen to this, maybe this could 397 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: be a hypothetical situation. All of this may have led 398 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: to our dear listener getting off the hook. So what 399 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: he asked me to do was shout out the officer 400 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: by name, which I will not. Like, No, that isn't 401 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: going to happen. I'm not even saying he really exists. 402 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: But if he does, officer, you're cool, and it just 403 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: goes to show you, um Bent fishing or like PBA 404 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: cards sometimes. So that story, I I enjoyed that story. 405 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's hilarious. That's hilarious. I can't believe 406 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: like police officers listened to this show like that is 407 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: just like one. I don't know why. I mean, I 408 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: guess it makes as much sense as anybody fish, dude. 409 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: I know it would be like, you know, like I 410 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: would be equally surprised if like a doctor or like 411 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: a a fireman, or like just just somebody. But you know, 412 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: it seems like once you have like a I don't know. 413 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: There's just something about a police officer listening to this 414 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: that just seems like I think. I think it's because 415 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: the whole degenerate angler thing, because like cops are supposed 416 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: to be like very generate, well put, well put anyway, listen, 417 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: no judgment for either party. Uh. If this hypothetical officer 418 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: is listening and wanted to, I don't know, send some 419 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: p BA cards since you've kind of been shouted out, 420 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: that would be cool anyway. Uh, yeah, I won't hold 421 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: out hope for that. So let's ufore we move on, 422 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: let's knock out conservation minutes real quick here. Um, here's 423 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: what I got. Okay, Cross Louisiana scientists are finding non 424 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: lethal ways to collect information about spotted and alligator gar 425 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: tro Yeah, to assess the overall health of floodplains and habitats. 426 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: The guard provides samples for isotope analysis. However, historically collecting 427 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: those has been lethal teams who relied on muscled issue 428 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: and stomach contents. Interesting. Man, Interesting. I'm about to talk 429 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: later where I guess my lead off. I'm going to 430 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: talk about a non leafal uh science based fishing thing 431 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: thing right anyway, Sorry, so I didn't, no, no, no. 432 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: So now these research teams from Austin, Texas and Nickel 433 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: State University have devised a way to gather the same 434 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: info with just small fin clips, which means more healthy 435 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: gar to eat your carp chunks or um for someone 436 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: to just shoot in the head with an arrow and 437 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: collect zero data. Either way, more guard for everybody. So 438 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: for my conservation minutes, um, we are going to talk 439 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: about not live fish, but dead fish. A fish kill 440 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: in Mobile, Alabama has been reported. Is it mobile or mobile? 441 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: I've heard it said both ways. I say, is my 442 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: leg I always mobile? But then somebody from there is 443 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: gonna be like it's mobile, you know, like you can't win, 444 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: you can't win people us Well, the red drum are 445 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: stuck inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues again anyway. 446 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: In Mobile, Alabama, a large fish kill was reported. A 447 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: video shot by charter boat captain Blake Crap Mike Mikailski 448 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: Milk I'm gonna go with Mikaelski showed hundreds of dead 449 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: red drum along a tideline in the mouth of Mobile Bay, 450 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: heading towards Sand Island Lighthouse. UH though an immediate cause 451 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: is not clear, scientists aren't particularly worried about long term impacts, 452 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: as the incident seems to be relatively isolated. The source 453 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: of the kill is not clear, as a likely cause 454 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: had already dissipated by the time scientists got to the scene. Um, 455 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: this fish kill is unique in that most of the time, 456 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: fish kills are only detected as fish wish up on shore. 457 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: This one, however, was discovered in open water. Anyhow, if 458 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: you have any information on this, go ahead and uh 459 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: talk to uh some fascinating Alabama I know they. I 460 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: know they recently had a nasty cold swing down there, 461 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: but I don't think it was long enough like the 462 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: one last year in Texas to to do that. So 463 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: who knows. Anyway, Alright, minutes have been conserved now for 464 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: the blood baths. Remember this is a competition. Hayden and 465 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: I do not know which main story the other fellows 466 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: bringing to the table. At the end, our audio engineer Phil, 467 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: we'll take a fin clip from each of us to 468 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: determine which guy spent more than ten minutes looking for 469 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: his story. Uh, as you've already pointed out, it's your 470 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: lead man, So what do you got? Okay, So today 471 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: on Fish News, I'm going to talk about something I'm 472 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: totally qualified to share my thoughts and report on neuroscience. 473 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: Oh good, Yeah, anyway, this comes to us from interesting 474 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: engineering dot Com, as well as a press release from 475 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: USC and that's University of Southern California. To that, researchers 476 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: at USC have for the first time observed memories forming 477 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: in a living animal. And guess what kind of animal 478 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: that was? Joe, h it was? I know because I 479 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: almost grabbed this. It's like a zebra h sounds a fish. 480 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to, like tell him the whole why. 481 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: I just told him it's a zebra fish. That's what 482 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: they always do. It's for the banner, Joe. Anyway, Yeah, 483 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: it was a fish, because this is a fishing podcast 484 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: and this is fish news, and as Joe pointed out, 485 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: as a zebra fish. Anyway, Yeah, scientists capture the first 486 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: ever snapshot at for memory being formed in a living 487 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: animal by harassing larval zebrafish with laser beams. But before 488 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: you get to that, let's talk about zebrafish as model organisms. Uy, 489 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: tank fish. I'll tell you that they're very boring and 490 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: they fade. The stripes fade. It's like then it's just 491 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: like a minnow, you know. Yeah, Well, anyway, a model organism, 492 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: not to be just totally derailed by Joe's feelings on 493 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: zebra fish's tank. Fish UH is a non human species 494 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: study to understand particular biological phenomena, with the expectation that 495 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: discoveries made in the model organism will provide insight into 496 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: the workings of other organisms. Zebrafish happen to make particularly 497 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: good model organisms. I think that's like my fifth particularly 498 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: in this UH episode of fish News. Anyway, being that 499 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: they're you know, the zebra fish is easily modifiable, they 500 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: develop outside the womb, which is useful in observing that 501 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: stage of organism development, and they breed more prolifically than 502 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: like mice, for example, So there's a lot of them 503 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: in there, you know. Anyway. Uh. The other thing about 504 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: them is they're basically see through, which makes them particularly 505 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: that's number six, useful for making observations of their on 506 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: their vascular and nervous systems. Oh, this is great. This 507 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: particular story is rooted in the ladder. Dude, I was 508 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: writing horribly this week, Okay, onto harassing GMO zebrafish with 509 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: laser beams, scientists at USC you wanted to learn and 510 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: about the ways memories were formed and what physiological changes 511 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: occurred during that process. What they did was they exposed 512 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: a twelve day old zebrafish to a light source, which 513 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: is a fancy way of saying they turned on a light. 514 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: Then they heated the little zebra fish up with an 515 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: infrared laser, which the little fish found uncomfortable, at which 516 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: point they would try to swim away to avoid the laser. 517 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: The scientists trained the fish for five hours until the 518 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: fish had learned that when the light comes on, the 519 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: laser beam is closed behind it. Eventually, the fish would 520 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: shake their little tails when the light came on, meaning 521 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: they knew the laser beam was coming, meaning that they learned, 522 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: meaning that they developed a memory. Uh uh okay uh. 523 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: This was documented importantly with a special way of imaging 524 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: their brains. A problem with this kind of like micro imaging. 525 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what the real term is, obviously, like 526 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: my my comment about this being something I'm well versed 527 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: into the top of news was made in jest, but anyway, 528 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: the problem with this type of imagery is that the 529 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: scientists would often kill the fish with the photons used 530 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: to generate it um. Using a special microscope, they were 531 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: able to observe live fish, which was previously impossible. You 532 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: you pretty much had like one before or after. Right, 533 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: it was like here's the fish and was alive, here's 534 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: the fish being dead. Um. Now you can have like 535 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: a like a a linear before and after progression. And 536 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: actually thinking about it, probably what you had was you 537 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: had fish that were exposed to this thing, and we're 538 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: not exposed to this thing, and like not being the 539 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: same fish. One live fish, one dead fish, and you 540 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: try to parse the difference anyhow. Uh. Using that special 541 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: microscope and looking at living zebra fish and their little 542 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: fish brain, scientists discovered something interesting that instead of a 543 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: synaps is being strengthened during the making of the memory, 544 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: what actually happened is that some synapsis is, some synapsi 545 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: snaps and snapsis. As a some disappeared while others were 546 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: generated elsewhere in the brain, leaving scientists to a completely 547 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: new understanding of how a memory is formed. For the 548 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: last forty years, and this is a quote, for the 549 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: last forty years, the common wisdom was that you learned 550 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: by changing the strength of synapsis is snapses but it's 551 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: just synapses. I know, man, I know, it's just a 552 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: tough word. Man, sit down and let me finish the 553 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: new story. But that's not what we found in this case, 554 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: said Carl Kesselman, a computer scientist at us cry USCRBY. 555 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: I don't know either, Uh, thanks Joe. Anyhow, scientists think 556 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: this research could mean big progression in uh, in the 557 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: understanding of things like PTSD and why uh and why 558 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: those unpleasant associative memories seem so strong? So yeah, yeah, 559 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's a very cool study and it's very 560 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: cool technology, but I think I'm gonna I have no 561 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: choice but to strip it down to a more like 562 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: fishing base level. I think, um, what, Well, what this proves, 563 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: right is that fish have memories. And we all kind 564 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: of knew that, right, but I mean, there it is 565 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: right in front of you. I mean, this study literally 566 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: watched a memory form in tiny fish. So like everybody 567 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: gets hung up on conditioning and pressure and it's like, oh, 568 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: we're all chasing these things with these ted little brains 569 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: and yeah, but I mean there's sort of proof in 570 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: the pudding that, um, you know, fish are are are 571 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: smarter than we think. And what I looked at this 572 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: story briefly. I didn't grab it, thank god, because we 573 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: would have crossed over. But um, what came to mind 574 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: was literally just this past weekend, I took my son 575 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: out fishing for a little while, and there was this 576 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: pond that I found in this park where I was 577 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: looking for mushrooms last spring. Did not know it existed, right, 578 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: And I just kind of like tucked it away in 579 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: the back of my mind. And it's a cheesy little 580 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: pond with benches and stuff around it, and I just 581 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: rolled in there with like a bunch of worms and 582 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,239 Speaker 1: and bobbers for him and dude. When I walked up 583 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: to that water and looked in, I was like, oh 584 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: my god, there are like thousands of the biggest dinner 585 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: plate bluegills I have ever seen in my life swimming 586 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: around these shallows, and this is going to be an 587 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: absolute slaughter. And every single bit of worm that went 588 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: in that water, they would rush it, stare at it, 589 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: and turn around and swim away. Bluegills we're talking about here, 590 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: which tells me these fish get the living ship pounded 591 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: out of them, like they are too exposed. And too 592 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: many people roll up to this tiny little park pond 593 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: and like, yeah, like to get one to eat, I 594 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: had to like take the bobber off and like fly 595 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: cast with two pound tests and like make sure the 596 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: hook was hidden. And it was completely no fun for 597 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: my son because he just wants to catch the bomber 598 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: and have it go under. But point being like those 599 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: fish have learned something and retain something, So if nothing else, 600 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: this story proves that fish do have memories of the 601 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: bubblegum pink Sanko. You insist on throwing and don't understand 602 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: why it doesn't work anymore. Please enter your password. You 603 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: have one unheard message. Hey Joe, Hey Hayden, just figured 604 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: i'd give you a call. I've got a little bone 605 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: to pick with you two, and I'm actually speaking for 606 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: Set as well. We do not catch, just just time 607 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: to drink a little wall eye here. We're catching mainly giants. 608 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: Like last year in Fort pac Man we caught when 609 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: I was purt near twelve pounds. Anyways, screw you guys, 610 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: Wally are great. End of message, delete press seven save deleted. 611 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: We actually have um man. There's a lot of common 612 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: threads between our stories today, UH, mostly that they are 613 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: dealing with uh small fish and technology that neither you 614 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: or I truly understand. But I'm gonna go with anyway 615 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: because I found this interesting. Um. I think we all 616 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: pretty much know what radio tagging or acoustic tagging is. Uh. 617 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 1: It's pretty common in fisheries research these days, but much 618 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: of it is focused on larger Well, okay for those 619 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: of us that doesn't need a quick version. You implant 620 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: a a tag that emits a signal on either the 621 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: inside or outside of a fish, and that that transmits 622 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: data about where the fish swims and how deep it 623 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: dives and all that good stuff back to a satellite 624 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: or whatever, and then we collect the data on our 625 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: lapity topities. Uh. Most notably, you can you can, actually 626 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: anybody can hop online and track great white sharks all 627 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: over the world that have been tagged. Um, do it 628 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: every time I go swimming. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, you 629 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: look first exactly. Uh. I remember a long time ago 630 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: we reported on how there was a sports book being 631 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: created where you could like bet on where the sharks 632 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: would pop up. Anyway, forget about the great whites, and 633 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about little itty bitty salmon. A team 634 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: from the Pacific Northwest National laboratory has developed acoustic tags 635 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: smaller than a grain of rice, which is pretty impressive, 636 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: and they've been implanting them in juvenile chinook salmon throughout 637 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest. I love like grain of rice as 638 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: a standard unit of measuring. Yeah, but very expensive Bosmati 639 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: ship you get in whole foods. I mean it's a 640 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: long grain alright, Seroni is delicious anyway. Uh, So there's 641 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: a very specific purpose for this um. And then similar 642 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: to the research in your story, right, this can be 643 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: useful all over the world. It's not, it's not focused 644 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: just on this one thing. But the Juvenile Salmon Acoustic 645 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 1: Telemetry System collects the data from these tags to study 646 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: how juvenile salmon running back down stream to the ocean 647 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: modify their behavior as they approach a dam, and then 648 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: how they navigate through those dams. So praer the story 649 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: from op b dot org. Uh. Juvenile salmon generally have 650 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: four options where they encounter or damn. Right, they can 651 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 1: use the specially designed juvenile Fish Bypass system in place 652 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: on dams throughout the Pacific Northwest. They can run the 653 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: gauntlet and go right through the turbines. They can plummet 654 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: over the spill way or go over the less harsh 655 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: surface spill way, and that last one there, as I understand, 656 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: it means that the water is spilling, if this makes sense, 657 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: at the same surface level as the water behind it 658 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: versus the regular spill way, where the fish would sort 659 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: of have to like fall down a few flights of 660 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: stairs and then get spit out the other side. It's 661 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: like jumping off a cliff or falling down an escalator 662 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: and then falling off a slightly shorter cliff. So those 663 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: are kind of the difference. It's like one shot or 664 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: a little torture on the way. Anyway, It goes without 665 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: saying that the information on how the majority of these 666 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: fish are getting through the dam is valuable. As the 667 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: story points out, collecting this kind of data to prove, 668 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, or disprove different hypothesis without acoustic tags would 669 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: take a very long time to be very costly. They 670 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: note that these tags can be implanted in baby salmon 671 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: very quickly with little stress, in most cases, with just 672 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: one or two suitures. So as the fish approached the damn, 673 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: scientists collect information on um where the fish are swimming, 674 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: how long it takes them to pass through the dam, 675 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: which route they're following, and if they survive. So I'm 676 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 1: curious any guests from you on on which of those 677 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: options the fish take most of the time through the dam, 678 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: whether it be the built in salmon bypass, the uh 679 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: steep fall, or the short tumultuous fall or right through 680 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: the turbines UM six to seventy maybe of like the 681 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: young salmon pass over the tops of damns through surface spills. 682 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: What did you just google that? Because that's like the 683 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: next thing that I'm going to say. You just cheat 684 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: it somehow because you're a dick. Yes, that's for ruining 685 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: my guests earlier, Joe. So far, the studies have found 686 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: the young salmon pass over the tops through the surface spills, 687 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: meaning the spillway that's spilling from the same level as 688 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: the water behind it. UM. So the direct dive off 689 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: the cliff instead of falling down some stairs first is 690 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: the main way. And while that sounds harsh, the acoustic 691 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: tags are also proving that most of those salmon survived 692 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 1: that drop, they are doing well on the other side. 693 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: So if you think about this UM, that means in 694 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: this case less than half of the fish are using 695 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: the special bypass hamster mays put in place for them 696 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: to use, which I suppose begs the question of of 697 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 1: do you actually need those or do you just top 698 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: spill more? Um, there's no answer right now, but these 699 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: are the kinds of questions the study hopes to answer 700 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 1: and apply to damns the world over for all different 701 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: species of fish. Damn, that's a good news story, Joe, Damn, 702 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: is it not? M hm? You know what, like my 703 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: favorite but oft unheralded version of of fish transportation is 704 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: what is that? I'm a fan of the salmon cannon. Man, 705 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: you ever see that the salmon cannon? Yeah, I've seen 706 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: the salmon cannon. Salmon cannon is pretty good. I mean, 707 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: if you guys don't know what like the salmon cannon is. 708 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 1: Basically it's like I don't know, actually like the actual 709 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: like prevalence of biologists transporting salmon in that way. But 710 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: it's basically like they load it's like a man gun. 711 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: They just swim in And no, that's not quite like that. 712 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: The funnier the biologist load these uh you know, these 713 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: salmon up into what appears to be like flexible piping, 714 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: and like they kind of go through this vacuum system. 715 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: And they even like have videos of these things being 716 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: backlet where you can see like just this perfect silhouette 717 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 1: of a salmon like snaking through this like large rubber pipe. Anyhow, 718 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: it takes them from one spot, puts them in another spot. 719 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you have you ever seen 720 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 1: like those videos of that being slight spliced to like 721 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: somebody getting hit in the hitting the side of the 722 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: head with an Asian carp. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's it's 723 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: it's it's TikTok just got all over that. You know, 724 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: the technology out there to move salmon. I appreciate it 725 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: very much, whether it be the salmon cannon or like 726 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: building better damns if that's really a thing. And but 727 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: it's like, man, we can get all these people together 728 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: to do that, Like, can can Pennsylvania get enough volunteers 729 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: to float stock instead of just dumping them off the bridge? 730 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: Like can we just get like a couple like retired 731 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: kids to just float stocks and trouts so they're in 732 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: the hole. I remember when I was a kid. Anyway, Um, 733 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: Phil and I the science guy. He's got some picks 734 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: this week. Zebra fish that think or um grains of 735 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 1: rice Serrouni stuffed in juvenile Salmon. We're gonna we're gonna 736 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: hear from Phil. We're gonna get his judgment and then um, 737 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a sale bin. That that brings to 738 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: mind one of my favorite hip hop songs, Pistol Grip Pump, 739 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: which is on my lap at all times. Joe. This 740 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,240 Speaker 1: week on The Winner, that's right, Phil is h Phills 741 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: down working in Texas. So I'm editing the podcast this 742 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: week and there's not a damn thing anybody can do 743 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: about it. Why did you put the hand to pay? 744 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: You don't know what I'm getting? Man? What you didn't 745 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: have to be so hurtful with me? So angry? All right? 746 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: This week in the sale Bin, we uh we have 747 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: a doozy and you know you know what else? Man? 748 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: I I believe this is actually the first ever sale 749 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: band that I'm leading off made could surely remember, might 750 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: be yeah? Anyhow, This one was submitted by listen ner Derek, 751 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: and we're not going to use his last name here 752 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: because I don't want the guy who posted the listing 753 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: he submitted like like tracking him down. Well, if you're yeah, 754 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: and if you're wondering why that would even be a thing. 755 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,919 Speaker 1: Just hang on, hang tight, because you're gonna you're gonna 756 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 1: find out. We're gonna get there in a second. So 757 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: this is either criminal or the Listers easily the most 758 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: degenerate angler of the degenerate anglers. And this is very 759 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: little to do with the items being sold and more 760 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: with the items that happened to be in the picture 761 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: attached to the listing. Yeah, yeah, like you said, right, 762 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: this is either a degenerate fly tire or a degenerate 763 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: who robbed a fly tire at gunpoint and is now 764 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: trying to flip based stash um of stolen materials. The 765 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: broader point here is sometimes it's not even the thing, 766 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: it's the surroundings in the photo anyway, why at gunpoint 767 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: you ask, Well, we're gonna get to that, but first, 768 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: let's let's just tell him about the rest of the 769 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: photo before we get to those juicy bits. Okay, So 770 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 1: the photo is like, I don't even know how this 771 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 1: was staged. First off, it's a photo fly time material, 772 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: that's what the dude is selling. And it's kind of 773 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: spread out on a bed, but not just any bed, 774 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 1: like a dirty mattress with a single stained fitted sheet 775 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: on it. The mattress is on the floor, like you 776 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: remember that Joe, You remember that like gross stoner buddy 777 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: in college who would trash all around his room and 778 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: just got that just had that grosty mattress on the floor. Yeah. Yeah, 779 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: it's that guy exactly exactly. And man, yeah, it has 780 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: all the hallmarks of stonerism because if you look around 781 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: the peripheries of the photo, um, you've got like all 782 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: the usual suspects. Okay, is dirty laundry. It is an 783 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 1: extremely dirty floor, like if you walked on it barefoot, 784 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: like it would be disgusting. Um, there's outside furniture inside 785 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: that's always a big one. Yeah you know what I mean, 786 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,240 Speaker 1: Like if the Walmart lawn chair is also the TV 787 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: chair you know, um, big gulp, big gulp on the nightstand. 788 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: Hey guys, oh, big gulps. Huh one of the never 789 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: and I would say it's it's full of like cigarette ash, 790 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: except for the fact that there's like an ash tray 791 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: on the decrepit old coffee table there, right, yeah, and 792 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: you know there was mountain dew in that anyway, Yes, 793 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: we got the ashtray on the old coffee table. Snack 794 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 1: Rappers the whole deal. Um. I mean it's your stoner 795 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: buddy Dave's house, who always had enough money to like, 796 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, just fund his hobbies, but no full vocation, 797 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: you know what his hobbies. Yeah, except it's even worse 798 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: than that, because when your buddy in college might have 799 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: just been stoned out of his mind. Uh, this guy 800 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: seems to be just regular out of his mind or 801 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: perhaps criminally out of his mind. And Joe, why do 802 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: we think that, man? Because because right there in frame 803 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 1: and by the way, we're gonna post this on Instagram, 804 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: but this this was totally cropable, Like this didn't have 805 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: to happen. You could have cropped in on the materials 806 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 1: for sale. Um, but I don't know why he didn't 807 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: just crop this all together. Anyway, Right there in the 808 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: frame is what appears to be like a straight up 809 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: fucking sawed off shotgun, like legit as sawed off shotgun 810 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: that looks like rusty and weathered. It's weird, dude. I 811 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: know you can buy like pistol grip pumps that have 812 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: enough barrel length to be legal, but uh, in my 813 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: semi expert opinion, is someone who has messed around with 814 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: like a lot of shotguns in my life. This is 815 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: not that. In the words of UFC President Dana White, 816 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: that's illegal. Yeah, indeed it is. I'm gonna back you 817 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: up on that. Uh. Look, the listing isn't really that 818 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: remarkable outside from the excellent photos. It just says fly 819 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: tying twelve hundred dollars. I mean that's kind of remarkable 820 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: because it's just a bunch of threatened ship willing to 821 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: sell separately priced and gootiable uh used like new, which 822 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: is which is actually good because there's no way what 823 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:56,280 Speaker 1: he's selling is worth first of all. Uh, mostly everything 824 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,720 Speaker 1: is inside an old school three tiered plane oh tackle box, 825 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: So it's it's not like a ton of stuff. This 826 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: is not like you're buying like lefty craze tying materials, 827 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, And like you said, 828 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: it's mostly thread and wired. To be fair, it's a 829 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: it's a pretty legit selection of thread and wire. But 830 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 1: it also looks ancient. So like the used like new 831 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: tag is dubious at best. Uh. Maybe this is a 832 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 1: good time to remind folks that replace your tying thread 833 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: like semi regularly, Otherwise you're going to have some shitty 834 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: experiences with with flies coming undone there. That is true. 835 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: That is that is a good tip right there. You 836 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: know what I was thinking? You know what? This also 837 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: looks like This looks like a scene like this looks 838 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: like a photo that could have been taken in like 839 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's house, Like if there was a death's head 840 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: moth on the bed next to the flying materials, like 841 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: it would have been right out of silence of the lamp. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 842 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,439 Speaker 1: this is where somebody goes get murdered anyway. It's It's 843 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 1: also not like they're like like hackle capes or whatever. 844 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: It's mostly just that thread, some bucket, pretty threat, the 845 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: guys selling threat some Zonker strips, like all inexpensive items. 846 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: So we know it'ss But how much do you think 847 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: you'd be willing to pay for all that fly goodness? Man? Uh? 848 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 1: How much? I don't know, fifty bucks? Because this seems 849 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,839 Speaker 1: like the kind of guy Like if I, like, if 850 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: I like bumped into this dude to saw this and 851 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: he was trying to like sound, I'd be like, I'll 852 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: give you bucks, and I don't. Is it weird to 853 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: say he'd he'd probably take it. It doesn't make the 854 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: photo like he would take He would take it. He 855 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,359 Speaker 1: needs forty bucks and he needs it. You would have 856 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: to pay me more than this was worth to even 857 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,720 Speaker 1: go there and get this stuff, Like this isn't Jerry 858 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 1: with a cup of tea, right, Yeah. And I think 859 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people are either scared off by the 860 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: price tag or the implications of what might happen should 861 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: you get there and try to negotiate, which explain I 862 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: think maybe that's why he's in there. I think that's 863 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 1: why the shotguns in there. He's trying to dissuade negotiation. 864 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: This it could be. I mean, regardless, it's sketchy, and 865 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,720 Speaker 1: like that's why it's been there for three months. Well again, 866 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: not to pass judgment, but like if you knew where 867 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: this guy live, I just keep an eye on the 868 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 1: curb because this seems like the kind of thing that 869 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: like eventually he just chuck out there, you know what 870 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 1: I mean. So it's sketchy. It's sketch um, you know. 871 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: And I've been known to drive like hours for a 872 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: bargain and meet up with like some folks I don't 873 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: really know too well if there was like a good 874 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: deal on some gear, but even I would shy away 875 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: from this like price notwithstanding. Yeah, and it would be 876 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 1: it would be a hard pass for me too. I 877 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: don't know, like i've I've I've had some dabblings and 878 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: used fly material. I've never bought them. But there's been 879 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: a few times when like a friend of the family, 880 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 1: like you know, somebody passes away and they tied a 881 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: little or something. It's like do you want this stuff? 882 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, you end up with all these 883 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: hackles and caps and stuff that like you look at 884 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: them and they turned to dust, you know what I mean. Like, 885 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 1: So I don't, I don't. I haven't really dabbled that 886 00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: much there anyway, Derek, uh last name excluded. Thanks for 887 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 1: sending us in And if you come across a similar 888 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: listing or something else you'd like us to highlight on 889 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: the sale bin, go ahead and uh email us a 890 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: link at bent at the mediator dot com. And if 891 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: you're in p A and decide that this particular bargain 892 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 1: might be for you, make sure to text me or 893 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,800 Speaker 1: hated with your location. Uh, you know if you're meeting 894 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: this guy, and uh, what time we should call the 895 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 1: cops if we haven't heard from you that sale bin 896 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 1: reminded me of a contender from many moons ago that 897 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: we never ran, honestly because I just couldn't think of 898 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,760 Speaker 1: enough to say about it to cover an entire segment. 899 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: But a listener sent it in. Um and it was 900 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: a guy, you know, Caroline as I believe, selling a 901 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 1: bait canon. You know what that is? You ever seen 902 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: one of those? Dude? Yeah? I love those things, man, 903 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 1: particularly because like when I was a when I was 904 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: a kid, we used to build like PVC potato cannons 905 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: all the time. Oh yeah yeah yeah, and this is 906 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,839 Speaker 1: just one of those with like legit utility. Yeah. So 907 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 1: this guy, this was not a homemade job or this 908 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: was like the expensive, you know, aluminum bait canon. Um so. 909 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 1: And it was a very short description. It's just like 910 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 1: bait cannon five bucks or whatever. But there was only 911 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: one photo of the bait cannon on his lawn. But 912 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 1: his giant dog, which I think was a boxer, is 913 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: taking a huge steamy shit right next to the bait 914 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,760 Speaker 1: cannon that is for sale. Like this giant curling turd 915 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: is falling out of the dog's ass like within inches 916 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 1: of the item, and it's just like take another photo, man, 917 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 1: Like digital photography is free. Like you can't say that 918 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: you didn't notice that. You know, it's funny because we 919 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: sit here and we analyze all this ship. But the 920 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: truth is, I just don't think people care. I don't. 921 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: They really don't. I'm certain the guy who took the 922 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 1: photo for today's sale Ben never gave the surrounding of 923 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: thought cared then or will care now if he here's 924 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 1: this no, which which he won't. But you know what, 925 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: we we hear uh you, we hear you and your 926 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: questions bent listeners. So to take this episode full circle 927 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: to the start, where we touched on the existence of 928 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,439 Speaker 1: a perfect being or bait casting rod, let's chat about 929 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 1: whether such a thing exists in the fly world. In 930 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: today's installment of the bent Helpline, what are you laughing at, Marktini? 931 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 1: You're not an idiot, You're not a gamblooning hell boy. 932 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: You're a fisherman. What's your emergency? All right? So, this 933 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: week on the bent Helpline, we are hearing from Ryan 934 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 1: Glarno a k A. Crayola munches on a great handle, 935 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 1: Great handle, Love to know more Kariola munchies on the Instagram? 936 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,280 Speaker 1: He asks, been fishing all my life, but never fly fished. 937 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 1: What would be the best way to start? Now? I 938 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 1: got some thoughts on this job, But why don't you? No, no, no, 939 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 1: you go first, go ahead? What are your so? Um? 940 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: I have? I guess I've been in this position more 941 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: recently than you beginner fly rod first off? Right, Like, 942 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: don't go out buying like a crazy nine rod because 943 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 1: like that's what you think you need to be good 944 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: a rod or just even like you know, a more 945 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 1: upper echelon rod has its place. But I don't know 946 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 1: about you, Joe, but like I don't feel like that's 947 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: something that I was really able to appreciate until I 948 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 1: was like far enough along in my like fly fishing trajector. 949 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. That's like getting your your learners permit 950 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 1: when you're sixteen and somebody putting you in like a 951 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: BMW sports car, Like you don't know how to drive 952 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 1: the Corolla yet? So are you really going to appreciate 953 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,399 Speaker 1: the difference? Um? And I agree with everything you just said. 954 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,839 Speaker 1: People ask me all the time, you know similar, like 955 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 1: I'm I want to start or set up? What what 956 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: brand do you recommend? And truth be told, my answer 957 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 1: is always figure out what your price range is for 958 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 1: the rod and real combo, and then pick the one 959 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 1: that you like aesthetically, because really, I think if you're 960 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,240 Speaker 1: looking at fly rod in real combos in in similar 961 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 1: price ranges, I mean I haven't fished them all, so 962 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: I can't like say, well this one is better, and 963 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 1: is there really a terrible fly rod anymore? And in 964 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 1: any in any price range, especially if you don't know 965 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,879 Speaker 1: the difference, if you don't know how to cast yet 966 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 1: at all, you will learn just fine on whether it's 967 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: an Echo orvis what whatever sort of budget lower end 968 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: brand you can afford. And if you stick with it, 969 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 1: like you said, someday, if you pony up for the 970 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,360 Speaker 1: nine job or then you'll be like, oh now, I see, 971 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 1: But there's no point in jumping to that. Yeah. Um, 972 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 1: you know if you want a specific like combo that 973 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 1: I like a lot, uh, And I this doesn't interfere 974 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 1: with thirteen. I don't think they don't make fly rods, 975 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: and not at all the orbs clear Water combo. I 976 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 1: think it's great because it comes with your line, it 977 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: comes with your real uh, it comes with your rod. 978 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 1: I think it even comes with some leader material. But 979 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 1: I remember I had gotten a girlfriend one of those 980 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 1: at a at one point in time, man and I 981 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: fished that thing for a while and it was great. 982 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, even somebody who knows something about it, Man, 983 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,839 Speaker 1: I thought that was totally sufficient. So yeah, I mean 984 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: I've said I've said this before and I'll reiterate it. 985 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: In my opinion, Um, you can either cast a fly 986 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 1: rod or you can't. There is no such thing as 987 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: a fly rod that is going to really make your 988 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 1: cast better. There's not. There's not. So even if you're 989 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: the guy who's got rod in thirty years of experience, 990 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: if somebody's like, hey, dude, your only option today is 991 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: this orvis clear water, you will get by and cast 992 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,359 Speaker 1: just five. So I have done. It's this. It's it's 993 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 1: the skill, not the not the tool. I'm you know. Yeah. Anyhow, Um, 994 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: so that's like your rig. Next I would identify what 995 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 1: sort of species you were going after primarily and number 996 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 1: one by the rod. That's like conducive to that. Can 997 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 1: I can? I can? I can I add a little 998 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,799 Speaker 1: caveat to that because what I also see people say, 999 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: you know, because that's what I'll ask, well, what are 1000 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: you fishing for? And a lot of times you get 1001 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 1: well trout mostly but sometimes carp an occasionally small mouth 1002 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 1: and the thing the thing for people to remember, which 1003 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 1: has has shocked a few people. I'm like, you don't 1004 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 1: necessarily match your rotten reel to what you're fishing as 1005 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,240 Speaker 1: much as the flies you have to throw to catch 1006 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: that thing. So, I mean, a nine ft five weight 1007 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 1: fly rod with floating line is is what you would 1008 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:38,359 Speaker 1: call the basic middle of the road. Um, if you're 1009 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 1: gonna throw a bread fly thirty pound carp though, you 1010 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 1: might not want that one though, so you know, yeah, 1011 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 1: let me let me throw a caveat to that. Yeah, 1012 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 1: if you're going for like a trout centric approach or 1013 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 1: like a smaller scale fish approach, I would definitely say 1014 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 1: the nine ft five. If you thought you might primarily 1015 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,840 Speaker 1: be going after like, uh, small mouth and you know 1016 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 1: fish like that, I would say bump up to a six, 1017 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 1: six or seven. But but I mean, that's that's the problem. 1018 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: You know that you have a five weight rod and 1019 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 1: it does, it does stuff that you wanted to do, 1020 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 1: and then it's like, oh, I'm gonna throw some hair 1021 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: bugs for some large mouth today. Now it's not gonna 1022 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: turn over it's not gonna it's and and it's it's 1023 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 1: not that you can't fight a ten pound large mouth 1024 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 1: on a five weight fly rod. You're gonna have a 1025 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 1: hell of a time delivering that fly. Because fly fishing 1026 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 1: is a system, the line, the rod, everything has to 1027 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,439 Speaker 1: come together and and be in harmony to turn over, 1028 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 1: flip over, and present. The size of the fly based 1029 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 1: on how air resistant they are, how heavy they are. Um. 1030 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 1: But all that said, it's kind of getting in the 1031 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 1: weeds because I do believe anybody who wants to get 1032 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 1: into this should just forget the big fish dreams for 1033 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 1: a while and just get yourself a nine ft five 1034 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 1: weight and learn how to cast it. If you're catching 1035 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,880 Speaker 1: pan fish and trout, learn that and then and then 1036 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,959 Speaker 1: worry about it from there. That's my okay. So that's 1037 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,879 Speaker 1: like your your your basic you know, line reel rod 1038 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,919 Speaker 1: set up. And by the way, don't buy an expensive reel, 1039 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 1: particularly if you're like just going for like trout and 1040 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 1: bass is just a line holder. Man. If you're going 1041 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 1: for like steelhead, yeah, if like that for some reason, 1042 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 1: that's where you decide to dip your toe into fly fishing. 1043 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: You want some good drag then because it's gonna pull yeah. 1044 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 1: Um okay. So now like tactic wise or like general 1045 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 1: approach wise, um, I would say, like start in a 1046 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 1: high probability time of year and fish the same areas 1047 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 1: you would as if you were conventional fishing. And what 1048 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 1: I mean by that is like, if you have a 1049 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 1: lot of experience flipping I don't know, you know, just 1050 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 1: three in grubs underdocks right on your conventional setup, do 1051 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 1: the same ship. Just do it with do it with 1052 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 1: like a bunny leach or something. Well, let me jump in. 1053 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,920 Speaker 1: Well here's what I would do. Go buy you go 1054 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 1: buy your nine foot five weight, put basically any fly 1055 00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 1: that you have on it, whether it's a dryer or nymph, 1056 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 1: and go to the easiest bluegill pond you know of 1057 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 1: where all the kids go with with zero ship in 1058 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 1: the way of your back cast, like preferably of a 1059 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 1: pond in the middle of a wide open Nebraska field 1060 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: would be good. And even if you have graduated from 1061 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: that long ago, uh, catch a bunch of bluegills, because 1062 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 1: you take the mystery of fly selection right out of it. 1063 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 1: They'll eat any nymph for any dry or any tiny 1064 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 1: popper you put out there. And um, you're gonna learn 1065 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: how to set the hook with a fly rod. You're 1066 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 1: gonna learn how to fight a fish with a fly rod, 1067 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 1: because quite often too you don't ever touch the reel. 1068 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 1: You strip your fish in by hand. Um, and you're 1069 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 1: gonna learn how to present. You're gonna learn how to 1070 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 1: cast far. You're gonna learn how to cast close blue gills. 1071 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 1: Man like kind of go back to the beginning. Yeah, yeah, 1072 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, and adopt the mindset of, like a true beginner, 1073 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 1: have your goal be to catch a fish. It doesn't 1074 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 1: matter what fish that is, it doesn't matter how big 1075 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: it is, and really try and learn from that. Um, 1076 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, take notes on what works and like what doesn't, 1077 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: and above all else, don't put yourself in technical situations 1078 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 1: right away. Do stuff where like a good cast will 1079 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: be rewarded with like a blue guilt hitting your hitting 1080 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 1: your fly. Don't like, you know, try and catch a 1081 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: trophy brown trout. Yeah, and I think the way to 1082 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: step up and you kind of alluded to that with 1083 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 1: your flipping docks references. You know, once you get a 1084 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 1: little bit comfortable, um, you know, devote a day to 1085 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 1: going out. Don't bring your spinning rod, just take your 1086 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: fly rod, no matter what happens. And when you put 1087 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 1: yourself in positions where you've you've you've gear fished before. 1088 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,439 Speaker 1: I mean really, every time I'm out with a fly rod, 1089 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know, how do I present this like 1090 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 1: gear or vice versa. Like they're sort of interchangeable in 1091 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 1: a way. So if you look at the situation, go 1092 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 1: normally I would throw a panther Martin right here, and 1093 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 1: I would put it over there, and I'd move it 1094 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: this way. Just try to emulate that with what's in 1095 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 1: your fly box, whether it's a little zonker or a 1096 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: little muddler. Um. Again, it all goes back to like 1097 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: everybody thinks there's this huge disconnect between fly and gear, 1098 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 1: there's no disconnect at all. You're doing the same thing 1099 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 1: with different tools. No, and and just remember, man, you're learning. 1100 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Have fun. You know you said you've been fishing your 1101 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: entire life. Man Um, the learning curve isn't going to 1102 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 1: be as steep as some folks might want you to believe. 1103 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 1: You know, just let it be what it is. Have 1104 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 1: a good time, man, you'll catch fish, and if you don't, 1105 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 1: right in again, we'll tell you how you're messing it up. 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