WEBVTT - 10/19/21 DPS Hour 2 Adam Lefkoe

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. That both parties need a separation here. But

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<v Speaker 1>for that to happen, I think Ben Simmons has to

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<v Speaker 1>show that he can play basketball. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be any better. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>happens the first time he has that wide open three,

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<v Speaker 1>or the first time that he goes to the free

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<v Speaker 1>throw line, or he's going to the hoop and doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to get fouled so he passes it off. And

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<v Speaker 1>how the seventy six are crowd really reacts, how does

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<v Speaker 1>Joe l Embiid react, How does Doc Rivers react? I

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<v Speaker 1>still think they want to trade him. The question is

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<v Speaker 1>what can they get and when do they trade him?

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's really imperative that Ben Simmons proves

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<v Speaker 1>he can play basketball, because right now I wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to trade for him because it feels like, hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five. He's acting like a twenty five year old.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey stop criticizing me. And then when you criticize that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I want to get out of here. No,

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<v Speaker 1>how about you just get better? And yes the criticism hurts,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're the one that brings on the criticism. You're

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<v Speaker 1>the one that you know, how much time you putting in,

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<v Speaker 1>how much do you really want to get better? And

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<v Speaker 1>this sense of entitlement. I don't want that on my team.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's got to prove it he can be

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<v Speaker 1>a good team player and play hard and do other things,

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<v Speaker 1>because right now it's such an odd body language that

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<v Speaker 1>you see with that team in that player Kyrie. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>Kyrie decides to do, whenever he decides to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>If he decides he's going to sit out this season, great,

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<v Speaker 1>he made his decision. The NBA will move on, The

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<v Speaker 1>nets will move on. The Nets will still be listed

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<v Speaker 1>his favorites to win the NBA title even without Kyrie Irving?

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<v Speaker 1>Does Kyrie wait a couple of months, what happens in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City? Does something change where he can come

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<v Speaker 1>back and play? But in the meantime, your two storylines,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like going into tonight have to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Simmons is there sort of and Kyrie's on. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we can extrapolate and go, oh, you got the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>with Russell Westbrook and yeah you do. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how how physical is the toll going to be on

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis. Can he hold up Lebron James Russell Westbrook's role?

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<v Speaker 1>Did they you know they have depth there, Dwight Howard, Carmelo, Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a fascinating experiment that they have as

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<v Speaker 1>far as you know, Utah or Denver. What do they

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<v Speaker 1>learn from last year? Phoenix? Are they going to be

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<v Speaker 1>there again? This Golden State have another run in them?

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<v Speaker 1>Then you have the Bucks basically brought everybody back, which

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<v Speaker 1>is not sexy. You don't get clicks when you bring

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<v Speaker 1>everybody back. But you know, they should still be the

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<v Speaker 1>team to beat in my opinion, because I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's going to happen with the Nets. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know there's going to be an outlier. You know, are

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<v Speaker 1>they Atlanta Hawks? Legit? Are the Knicks legit? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a lot of questions there, Miami Heat, Miami

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<v Speaker 1>Heat with Kyle Lowry? Are they that much of a

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<v Speaker 1>different team? But those are some of the questions. But

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Lefco, who hosts NBA on T and T, he'll

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<v Speaker 1>join his coming up in a little bit. Yeah. Pauli

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Simmons question, can most athletes can win or play

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<v Speaker 1>their way out of almost any criticism, any off field baggage.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it feel like it's too late? In Philly? Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say they started seven and one and he played better,

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<v Speaker 1>much better. Would it be forgiven or just temporarily forgiven

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<v Speaker 1>with Ben Simmons? Well, but by playing better they there.

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<v Speaker 1>They were a great team last year, but he wasn't great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know how he becomes better if you

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<v Speaker 1>stare well. But he can't shoot, so that that hasn't changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Would I like to see him more like Yannis not

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<v Speaker 1>being afraid to go to the free throw line? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I would. Um, I don't want Yannis shooting jumpers, but

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<v Speaker 1>I love that he's fearless. Ben Simmons is afraid of

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<v Speaker 1>getting criticized. You can't step on the court, and he

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<v Speaker 1>is a great talent, but you can't go out there

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<v Speaker 1>with those things that are always going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>your head or your coaches, or your teammates or the fans.

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<v Speaker 1>They're waiting for you to go to the line. They're

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for you to take a jumper. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm Ben Simmons or on Doc Rivers, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want him in the situation where he's taking jumpers. I

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<v Speaker 1>would use him as a power forward. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to go to the free throw line,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't need him. Not everybody needs to shoot threes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would utilize him in a different way. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like Jannis became so dangerous. They put him on the

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<v Speaker 1>low block in the finals and he dominated. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he put you in foul trouble and then he hit

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<v Speaker 1>what's seventeen of eighteen free throws in that final game? Yeah, mclevn. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking as Sickerts fan, Ben tenses hang out forty feet

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<v Speaker 1>from the basket, which means his man is on himbiid.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't go down low where he's dominant. He's really

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<v Speaker 1>really good. Yeah, he just doesn't want to shoot free throws.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want to be embarrassed. He's a he's a

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok kid. It's like, you know, Okay, you want everybod,

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<v Speaker 1>you say nice things, you want likes, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>all of this stuff. That's just not the NBA. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not the way it works. And you know, get tough,

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<v Speaker 1>act tough, be tough, and try to make yourself a

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<v Speaker 1>better player instead of hey, stop picking on me, trade me.

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<v Speaker 1>I want out of here, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you come back? Well, I didn't realize they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pay me or find me that much. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>sort of there with Philadelphia. You're not there for the

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<v Speaker 1>long home, not at all. All right, we'll get some

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls here. What's poll question for our two? So

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<v Speaker 1>we have up who is a favorite in the AFC?

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<v Speaker 1>And the Buffalo Bills are still running away with it

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<v Speaker 1>despite losing last night sixty four percent. The second and

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<v Speaker 1>behind them is the Ravens. Yeah, yeah, I can see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the Ravens. The Ravens are proving you don't

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<v Speaker 1>need a quality running back. You don't you don't even

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<v Speaker 1>need a name running back. But they have names. They're

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<v Speaker 1>just incredibly old. They have Levy on Bell, Davante, Freeman, Ladavius,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't need them. I would still have an

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<v Speaker 1>empty bad with Lamar, and I would have either an

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<v Speaker 1>extra wide receiver an extra blocker, and I would just say,

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<v Speaker 1>try to stop him. He's gonna get hit. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the times a quarterback has been

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<v Speaker 1>hit this year, this is those running and you know

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the pocket and you get hit. Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>has been hit in ninety eight times, so that's being

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<v Speaker 1>tackled or hit in the pocket. Next on the list

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<v Speaker 1>is Josh Allen at seventy eight, Jalen Hurts seventy eight,

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<v Speaker 1>Carson Wentz sixty five, Sam Darnold sixty five, Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three, Daniel Jones sixty three. You're gonna get hit.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is design plays. Do you get out of

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<v Speaker 1>bounds to your slide? You know that's really the key.

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson is going to get hit, and so is

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen. They get hit differently because it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar is a little better at avoiding contact or that

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<v Speaker 1>direct hit Josh Allen, he almost seems to take on

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<v Speaker 1>that contact. But I would just spread. I would just

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<v Speaker 1>say to the defense, try to stop this. And Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>is a better passer than people given credit for because

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<v Speaker 1>if you watch that game, got a really quick release.

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<v Speaker 1>He might not be as accurate as the other elite quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>But I look at what he does well, does better

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<v Speaker 1>than anybody, and you build off of that. Yeah, I mclub. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar's had a lot of stats taken away because Brown

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<v Speaker 1>has had the drops this year. He's played well. He

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<v Speaker 1>had three t drop one game, and he dropped one

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<v Speaker 1>this game too. You know, Lamar's passing numbers are really

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<v Speaker 1>good this year. The least hit quarterback. Actually, they're tied,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would never have thought that they would be tied.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Roethlisberger and Tom Brady have been hit the fewest

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight times. Yeah. Point. I saw a stat the

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<v Speaker 1>other day. I think Chris Collinsworth dropped it that Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Roethlisberger is getting rid of the ball faster than any

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<v Speaker 1>other point in his career, back to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like a hop tato. Yes, yeah, everything is

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<v Speaker 1>like three, four, five, six yards. You know, he just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to get after a while. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>can't move any but he used to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>have mobility and he could extend to play. He just doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want to get hit anymore. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why Brady is still playing is because he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get hit. You know, he's not running, he's not running

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<v Speaker 1>from anybody. Uh, let me see, Jeff, and Milwaukee leads

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<v Speaker 1>this off. Hey, Jeff, what's on your mind today? And morning?

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty excited morning, pretty excited for the start of the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA season, more excited than ever for obvious reasons. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering if there's really any way to overrate what

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<v Speaker 1>Jannis did in the finals last year coming off to

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<v Speaker 1>knee injury. He's got the Chase down blacking game one,

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<v Speaker 1>two forty point games, backed back the black than the

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<v Speaker 1>hellyoop fifty points, making his free throws unafraid. As you say,

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<v Speaker 1>I've absolutely loved you talking about that the past couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks. Where do you put that historically for a

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<v Speaker 1>finals run? It's there, you know. I still go back

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<v Speaker 1>to Rick Barry had an incredible finals run with the

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<v Speaker 1>Golden State Warriors. Jerry West did, Magic, did Bird did.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael obviously did. But but Jannis is different because I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't look at the second best player on the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks equal to the second best player with Magic or

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<v Speaker 1>second best player with Bird or second best player with Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>Jannis is just fascinating. And I know I keep repeating this,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you look at Ben Simmons and Jannis, they're

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<v Speaker 1>of similar age, but they are so different in their personalities.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Jannis wasn't entitled when he came over. He had

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<v Speaker 1>to keep work and keep working, prove himself. Ben Ben

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't go to the NBA right out of high school.

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<v Speaker 1>He stops in for you know, a couple of months

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<v Speaker 1>at LSU, has no interest in going to class and

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<v Speaker 1>basically quit on that team. They weren't even a tournament team.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he hey, number one pick, this guy's the

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<v Speaker 1>next Magic Johnson. I'm still waiting for the next Magic

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson because it's not Ben Simmons and there will never

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<v Speaker 1>be another Magic Johnson. But he came in. It's like here,

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<v Speaker 1>I am enjoy and then all of a sudden, you go, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you got some holes in your game. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I saw him playing at LSU, I go,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's I think he's shooting with the wrong hand,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was sort of joking, sort of yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not Chris Middleton's fault. But he's not very famous

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not very spectacular. He's a very good NBA player, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's such in the shadow of the aura of

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<v Speaker 1>Jiannis that it feels like it's a one man team,

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<v Speaker 1>which isn't fair, but that's what it feels now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and look, they have a good balanced team, But go

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<v Speaker 1>back to Kevin Durant with his foot on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how different that could have been. You'd probably

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<v Speaker 1>have a new head coach in Milwaukee, Like there was

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<v Speaker 1>so much attached to that they held on for dear life.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, Ben Simmons has to decide if he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to take on the risk and the reward of

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<v Speaker 1>being a great player. He's gonna get paid, but do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be remembered as somebody that people go, oh, yeah, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>he was overrated or Janie is going to be underrated

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<v Speaker 1>probably when it's all said and done, which is really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to do getting all the attention that he does. Yeah, McLeman,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't help myself. We gotta put an as first

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<v Speaker 1>on this title. Last year. Come on, they beat the

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<v Speaker 1>Hawks at the conference finals and they beat the Phoenix

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<v Speaker 1>Suns in the finals. You can't control who you play, well, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>then Kawhi Letter gets full credit for beating the Warriors

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<v Speaker 1>without Katie. If there's I just feel like this was

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<v Speaker 1>a quirky quirky NBA Magic was injured when Michael won

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<v Speaker 1>his first title beating the Lakers. Nobody brings that ump

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<v Speaker 1>was that that Lakers team was not fully stocked though,

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<v Speaker 1>was it They would have woke okay, but they had injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Michael went on to win the next one.

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<v Speaker 1>My point is Jannis he has to prove a little

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<v Speaker 1>more to be in like okay, and he might do.

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<v Speaker 1>The Spurs get all the credit they deserve should they

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<v Speaker 1>get blamed. They beat a Knicks team that didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>have Patrick Ewing on it. That's another big I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hear anybody say anything, but they beat Like, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>worst finals. What about they beat a Cleveland team that

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<v Speaker 1>I had Lebron James and no one else, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the worst teams to ever go to the NBA Finals. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody is patting them on the back for that, But

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<v Speaker 1>those are two Those are two titles. Well yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>they went on to win a bunch more so that

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<v Speaker 1>that takes the astric away. Okay, but then do I

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<v Speaker 1>take those away that they only won three not five? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>because you get it back after you win a subsequence.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how it work. So if Janni's somehow beats the Nets, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>then then and then this one counts. Just like Kawai's

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<v Speaker 1>title doesn't really count in lieu of a banner raising.

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<v Speaker 1>You have an asterisk lowering. Mm okay, yeah, like nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's gonna really take that Raptors title that seriously. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just you. Oh, come on, there's somebody NBA

0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:29.320
<v Speaker 1>fans who like to put asterix on different things. I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't help myself. I'm sorry. And I love the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks I Bucks gear all over my because it's free. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. All right, let me take a break. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Adam Leftco the NBA on TNT host Hill

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<v Speaker 1>Jone is coming up. More phone calls as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll preview Dodgers this afternoon. By the way, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>five o'clock, five o eight Eastern time game, just to

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<v Speaker 1>let everybody know. And that's one of those that you

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<v Speaker 1>could be tuning in. You're like, oh my god, they're

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventh inning. Yeah, poem, if you live in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, could you make it to the Dodger game

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<v Speaker 1>all nine n and make it to the Laker game

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<v Speaker 1>late late night. That's a surfing turf. That'd be fantastic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably could so two o'clock. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>time tip off is for the Lake Canal five Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>seven o'clock Local. I did the math, all right? Be tight? Yeah, Seed,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a surf and turf. Oh yeah, it is all right.

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<v Speaker 1>more phone calls coming up. NBA season opener coming up tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>TNT is going to have the bucks and the nets

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<v Speaker 1>and the man you will see hosting the festivities. Adam

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<v Speaker 1>left Goo, host of NBA on TNT. Also the Left

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<v Speaker 1>Go Show podcast, Bleacher Report Gamings Underrated on TBF. So

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<v Speaker 1>Adam left Go joining us here on the program and

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<v Speaker 1>see with us. Todd sure is oh okay, Hey left Go.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest storyline going into the season is, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you caught me in a whirlwind between Ben Simmons and

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<v Speaker 1>Kyrie Irving. I feel like those are the two NBA

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<v Speaker 1>seventy fifth year anniversary that's the biggest one. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think what's going to happen to these two guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are not currently playing right now? Do the team even

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<v Speaker 1>like him in terms of Ben Simmons and in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of Kyrie Irving, does the team even need him? Those

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<v Speaker 1>are the two questions that I'm kind of thinking storyline wise,

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<v Speaker 1>who would you rather interview between those two? Oh, Kyrie

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<v Speaker 1>is going to take you to a place that you

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea where he's going. And I'm someone that

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<v Speaker 1>does find it somewhat entertaining Ben. It feels like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of angst, a lot of anger, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>built up just frustration, and I feel like it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lot of no comments. So at least

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<v Speaker 1>I can have a conversation with Kyrie which one is

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<v Speaker 1>more salvageable Kyrie. I think that when we would always

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<v Speaker 1>have these stats last year for MBA and TNT, how

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<v Speaker 1>is this team with Kyrie and Durant but no Harden

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<v Speaker 1>and how are they? They were great? And so when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the depth of this roster, I totally

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<v Speaker 1>forgot Patty Mills, I know, but they got Javon Carter

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<v Speaker 1>two from Feeding. They're very deep, and James Harden played

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of point guard last year, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>think that this Nets team could start off really hot

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<v Speaker 1>and then three four months in possibly he gets the

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine and joins them with Ben. He is literally working

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<v Speaker 1>out in a hooded sweatshirt with the sleeves cut off,

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<v Speaker 1>wearing full pants to practice. He's not playing. We are

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<v Speaker 1>watching a hold in instead of a old Alps And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this is just posturing for a possible trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Who had a great offseason. I think the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks resigned a lot of guys, they got continuity

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<v Speaker 1>in a league of constant change. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>really well done for Boston to kind of move a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of their pieces and retain their core and still

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<v Speaker 1>build around Tatum. I think I would have said Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 1>but this DeAndre Ayton not getting the max I think

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly brings trouble in Paradise. But I think also the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers and specifically Russell Westbrook to go from the Washington

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<v Speaker 1>Wizards to the Lakers, what an off season for him?

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<v Speaker 1>Really impressive. What is the game plan do you think

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<v Speaker 1>for the Lakers during the regular season? So that was

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<v Speaker 1>the best part of the Russell Westbrook moved by the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion is that Lebron is now and he

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<v Speaker 1>has been for the last few years, a CEO that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need to be in every meeting, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>when you heard the upset nature of him with Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Dudley leaving, he needed those generals to keep the team

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<v Speaker 1>motivated during the regular season. And I don't think anyone

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<v Speaker 1>does that better than Russell Westbrook. We heard it in

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<v Speaker 1>Houston where he was on the plane and they're waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for Harden and then he goes to Washington and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, the team and Bradley deal is focused.

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron now has his general, his everyday general to keep

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<v Speaker 1>that team motivated during the regular season. We saw it

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<v Speaker 1>last year like they're okay, going for the seven or

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<v Speaker 1>eight seed if it means, you know, resting Lebron a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. I think that they're going to go for

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<v Speaker 1>it all this year. I think that when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the West, I think the Sons are great, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's unlikely that they have a similar run

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<v Speaker 1>back to back. It's just tough to do that two

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<v Speaker 1>years in a row. So I think they're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>going up against UT to try and win the regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think as long as they're in the top four,

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<v Speaker 1>they're feeling good. But I really think Westbrook now is

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<v Speaker 1>that day to day general of the team. Who's the

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<v Speaker 1>most overrated team? Oh? Overrated? I think, like I just said,

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<v Speaker 1>I would just from having watched sports a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably unlikely that Phoenix and Atlanta do what they

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<v Speaker 1>did again. You know, those just seemed like big runs

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<v Speaker 1>motivated by a lot of and there are so much

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<v Speaker 1>opening in the West with Kawai's injury and the Lakers injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think Phoenix is probably the team that

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<v Speaker 1>people are penciling into the finals that I just would

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<v Speaker 1>I would bet against them. Who is underrated? I like

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<v Speaker 1>the Utah Jazz, and mainly because of conversations that we

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<v Speaker 1>have had before about Yeah, I get this with the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks and the regular season, but show me in the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs and then it happened, and this happened with the

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<v Speaker 1>Raptors a few years ago. I'm not saying Rudy Gay

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<v Speaker 1>is the guy at the missing piece that brings us

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<v Speaker 1>all together, because that's just that's a good thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you didn't. Okay, yeah, I've had n't two

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<v Speaker 1>year three into loving the Utah Jazz. I too, love

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<v Speaker 1>the unit. Um. I think it was watching Rudy Gobert

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<v Speaker 1>in the Olympics, and it was watching him get brought

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<v Speaker 1>into similar situations in the playoffs where he's having to

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<v Speaker 1>defend guards and he actually did it. But look, I've

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<v Speaker 1>Mellow Olympic mellow messed me up for a number of years.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just I have to imagine that all of

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<v Speaker 1>these years of getting just absolutely swept in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, I'm I'm a sucker for Payne,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And so I think the Utah Jazz are

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<v Speaker 1>are my tool this season? Who is your finals pick?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'll I'll be even sicker because if it happens,

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<v Speaker 1>I want credit. I'll put the Jazz in there, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to put the nets so it'll be Jazz

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<v Speaker 1>versus Nets. The thing that I'm thinking about tonight's game,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a matchup for the Eastern Conference Finals Bucks Nets,

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<v Speaker 1>is the one player the Bucks didn't bring back is PJ. Tucker.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know it's weird to read that PJ. Tucker

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<v Speaker 1>was a great defender against Kevin Durant when Kevin Durant

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<v Speaker 1>had like an all time game in games five and seven.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason he was so big as it meant

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<v Speaker 1>that Jannis and Middleton didn't have to guard Durant, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it changed up their philosophies. And I just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the team right now and all I can

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<v Speaker 1>think about is if I went to Vegas, I'm putting

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<v Speaker 1>my number one bet is Durant's MVP. That's just the

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<v Speaker 1>way the season ended. Now he's got a full healthy offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no Ki, so he's going to get credit for

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<v Speaker 1>like playing well without Kyrie. I just don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>stops him. So I would go Jazz and nets. Why

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<v Speaker 1>is it I can't release or cut that umbilical cord

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<v Speaker 1>from the Golden State Warriors. Oh Like, Steph Curry's my

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<v Speaker 1>number two pick for MVY. Yeah, I had him MVP

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<v Speaker 1>last year and I and you know, Klay Thompson's the

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<v Speaker 1>missing ingredient. They got young players, They got some youth

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<v Speaker 1>on there. I don't know if they have the magic

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<v Speaker 1>dust for one more run, but I'm kind of holding

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<v Speaker 1>on that they do. There are three teams that I really,

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<v Speaker 1>really like, but injuries are what prevents me from picking

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<v Speaker 1>them long term. Kawhi with the Clippers, Jamal Murray with

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<v Speaker 1>the Nuggets, and Clay Thompson with the Warriors. All expected

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<v Speaker 1>back a few months into the season, and if they

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<v Speaker 1>were there the entire time, I just don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting. And so I'm so excited to watch Curry,

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<v Speaker 1>Clay and Draymond. And now with all of this wisdom.

0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I was reading about drey him on yesterday and how

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<v Speaker 1>you know he used to be the guy that could

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<v Speaker 1>talk to the team and talk about like advanced mathematics

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.680
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to NBA, and now all the young

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:12.440
<v Speaker 1>guys are looking to him. And I love the fact

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 1>that we're going to get super veteran Clay, Curry and Draymond.

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<v Speaker 1>I just without Clay, they are a piece short, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where we're going to get in January.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to talk to you. Have fun tonight, and

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<v Speaker 1>remember what did you have for breakfast? Where are you

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<v Speaker 1>going later today? Where is that shirt made? Why are

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<v Speaker 1>you wearing that sweater? It has seashells? Because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee is a beach town. Yeah, yeah, I take the

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 1>kids there. We used to. We used to take the

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<v Speaker 1>kids there for the summers. You know, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just that, you know, if I can get a

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<v Speaker 1>margarita on the beach of Milwaukee, because I would say

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>to the kids Milwaukee or Disney World, and they go Milwaukee. Easy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Remember your role is John Stockton. Yeah, pass, get the

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<v Speaker 1>get the assist out, get the ball out quick. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's your rapid fire question. No, you don't even have

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 1>to have a did John Stockton ever have a no?

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<v Speaker 1>Look pass? I just revealed that I'm not wearing You

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 1>don't have pants on? Do you? I would stand up

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 1>and show no, no, no, no, no, no, it's your

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<v Speaker 1>best you don't. Yeah, I don't want to see your

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<v Speaker 1>left go in your right. Co I referred to thank you, Bud,

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:34.679
<v Speaker 1>thank you, Adam left Coo NBA on TNT host and

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>a man who's not wearing pants at least in that interview.

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 1>He started to stand up and I went, no, no,

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I would say nothing to see here, but there might

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 1>have been though being mature here, all right, get a

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 1>couple of phone calls in here. I don't know what

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:57.680
<v Speaker 1>we learned there other than Kevin Durand will probably get

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<v Speaker 1>a little more credit if the Nets do well without

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Kyrie Irving playing. I mean it's almost like Lamar Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>because without that, you know, they all the injuries were

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 1>their running backs. And you don't look at their wide

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.879
<v Speaker 1>receivers as great. Mark Andrews a pretty good tight end

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 1>seems to be that's his default out. Hey, who could

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:21.159
<v Speaker 1>I throw it tight end? I'll throw it to the

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.479
<v Speaker 1>tight end. But you know, do they make a trade?

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Would they be curious kicking the tires on say Quon Barkley.

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that something that the Ravens would do. I don't

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 1>know that. Just when it comes to what did you

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 1>do and who helped you do it? Lamar Jackson's going

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:40.120
<v Speaker 1>to get a lot of credit, and rightfully so so far. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Point going back to NBA MVP, Lebron James can never

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<v Speaker 1>win it again, right He's got too much talent on

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers. I thought he was gonna win it when

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 1>he got injured, when he was leading the league and

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>assist I thought you could make a case what he did.

0:26:56.800 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 1>He was he was transitioning into a different role and

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>a role that maybe you you know, you'd start to

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>see more of with Lebron. I could see that. It

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 1>feels like, um, there was always a fascination with Jordan,

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 1>with writers and reporters, voters. I don't know if there's

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>a fascination with Lebron the way that there was with Michael.

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 1>But you know, Michael would get the MVP in the finals, like, Okay,

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to give it to me during the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season, I'm going to use that as motivation in

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>the NBA finals. And he did that to Carl Malone

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>and he did that to Charles Barkley. But two years ago,

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Lebron finished second. I believe to Yannisum, I could make

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>a case Lebron was just as valuable. It was different,

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>but you know he kind of said, hey, this is

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:48.400
<v Speaker 1>what I need to do, and I respected that. Yeah, Pa,

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Lebron is not one of the MVP since the twenty

0:27:51.040 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 1>twelve two thirteen season. Since then, it's been Durant, Curry, Curry, Westbrook, Harden, Yannis, Yantis, Yoki. Yeah,

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he gets to that, oh my gosh,

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>she's doing it at that age. Therefore, we're going to

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:10.640
<v Speaker 1>give him extra credit, not necessarily lifetime achievement because he's

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 1>already gotten MVPs. But I do think that maybe you

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>get that that feel good story with Lebron. He's just

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>polarizing to people, like there's the when if you look back,

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, Jordan didn't have that. He wasn't polarizing when

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>it came to the voters. Bird wasn't like that, Magic

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like that. It feels like Lebron is like that

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 1>because well, he's not Michael. We don't want him to

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>be Michael. Or he's going to be the all time

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 1>leading scorer and he'll be top ten and assist all time,

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 1>but is he the greatest player of all time? It

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>just feels like there's this tug of war of keeping

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Lebron back a little bit and not acknowledging what he

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>does and how he's done it, and at a concert

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>distant rate now because the argument it always comes back

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>to this, hey Jordan six and oh okay, what happened

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 1>to all the other years? Because when Lebron goes to

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the finals and he loses, that's held against him, whereas

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Jordan wouldn't get to the finals, ball out in the

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>first round or second round earlier in his career. That

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>was never held against him. And that's not fair, that's

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>not fair. It's like Tom Brady, you get to the

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>super Bowl, Yeah, but he lost, but he got to

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>the super Bowl Montana four and oh I would rather

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 1>have somebody get to the super Bowl than somebody who

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>lost two weeks earlier, or somebody got to the NBA Finals,

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 1>or somebody who didn't get out of the second round.

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 1>But if you're going to critique Lebron or Brady for

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>losing championships, okay, it's rarefied air. But I just I

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think Lebron has been given enough credit for what

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>he does when he gets to an NBA finals, whereas

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Jordan never gets blamed. He's like, hey six, and oh

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>yes he was and he was great, and I was

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>there every step of the way and he was spectacular.

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>But those other teams that he had, you know, getting

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>out the first round, second round, Lebron did that. Michael

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>was never That's never been a knock against Mike yea

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>po Lebron won his four MVPs in a five year

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>span oh nine to thirteen, the longest stretches between MVPs.

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Kareem had his first MVP in seventy one and his

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>final one of his gie's of his six in nineteen eighty.

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan won his first MVP in nineteen eighty eight,

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>his final MVP of his five in nineteen ninety eight.

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>That's the longest stretch. Yeah. H so he won five

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>and ten yeah five, and over the course of eleven

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>NBA season, Kaream won six. Over the course of nine seasons,

0:30:56.920 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>ye well, Kaream was different. You know when Kareem came in.

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>There's certain players when they came in, you go, oh,

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>we haven't seen that before. An athletic big man who

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>who almost had the feet of a ballet dancer. I

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>mean he was just he had great footwork and incredible touch,

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and there was always well, he could have been better,

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 1>he could have been more dominant. But you know, when

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>you're putting up thirty five and eighteen every night, it

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>just felt like no matter what Kareem did, it wasn't enough.

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 1>But I still think he's one of the most underrated

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>NBA players of all time. Yea. When you look at

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 1>this MVP list, it really shows the direction the NBA.

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Larry Bird won three in a row, eighty four, eighty five,

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>a six, then Magic Johnson won eighty seven, eighty nine, ninety,

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>then Lebron and then Michael joronsaid I'll take it from

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 1>here and one five in the next decade. Yeah yeah.

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if if Lebron could be a feel good story.

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I think it might be difficult because Anthony Davis is

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>should be the best player on the team. Russell Westbrook

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>what he's going to be able to do. People might

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>look at Russ and say he's the most valuable player

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.719
<v Speaker 1>on that team because of what he's going to have

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>to do during the regular season. And you know, Lebron

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>has come out and said, look, I don't want workload

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 1>diminished here. That's why he was all in to win

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the MVP because it was about load management. And I

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>think Lebron's tactic was I can win the MVP by

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>being at my age great and wanting to play in

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 1>every single game. Hey Kawhi wants to take time off,

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>or you know, Kyrie or whoever it is you take time,

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to play every single night. And he almost

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>pulled it off. All right, We'll take a break. More

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls coming up next year, Dan Patrick Show. Thanks

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:49.800
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0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.400
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0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Doug Gottlieb. The podcast is called All Ball. We usually

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 1>talk all basketball all the time, but it's more about

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>the stories about what made these people love their sport

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and all the interesting interactions along the way. We talked

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:20.080
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0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.440
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0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:26.240
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0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or ever you get your podcast. Alrighty,

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>are we gonna settle on another poll question? McLevin? You

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 1>know I'm looking up the MVP odds. You want to

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 1>do an MBA MVP poll? Okay, see if Lebron I

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>think Lebron has a chance if he gets Psycho ten

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>assists with that. You know he was averaging that two

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>years ago. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, it depends on how

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>committed they are to the regular season, because do you

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 1>want to go all out the regular season? Lest Brook's

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna have the ball a lot during the regular season,

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I'm just they're only going to go

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>as far as Anthony Davis will take them. That he's

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the difference maker. Do I expect you can plug and

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 1>play numbers for Lebron and Westbrook. Yeah, even you know,

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 1>mellow Anthony Davis needs to rise up and be one

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>of the top five players in the game. Yeah, mclub,

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>the Vegas favorite is Luca at a plus four hundred.

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Then Janis then embed KD, Curry, Lillard, Yoki, Lebron all

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.840
<v Speaker 1>in that next. I would take KD. You know that

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>we keep waiting for. You know, Luca was supposed to

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:34.720
<v Speaker 1>be the favorite last year, and I said his team's

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 1>not going to be good enough for him to win

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the MVP. You have to be at a certain level.

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>It feels like, when's the last time somebody won the

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 1>MVP and their team wasn't one of the elite teams.

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not sure I remember, but if somebody can

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:51.439
<v Speaker 1>remind me of that. Well, Russell Westbrook with the triple double, Yeah,

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>they were pretty good too, Yeah, and that was the

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:57.240
<v Speaker 1>uniqueness of that. And then he proved that it wasn't

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:00.280
<v Speaker 1>that unique because he did that again where he average

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 1>a triple double. Jannis and the MAVs have to be better.

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 1>They have to take that next step, and it might

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>come down to Kristaps Porzingis does he take the next

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 1>step to be a great player. It might hinge, you know,

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Luca's MVP might hinge on that. Yeah, I'm okay. The

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>dark horses on here, Jason Tatum, Donovan Mitchell, Anthony Davis,

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Paul George, you know, anybody. Devin Booker's on here. No,

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis could be you know, if you're looking for

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 1>longer odds. But but he has to be healthy and

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>then put up those big numbers because you're always gonna

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 1>have showcase games. And the question is is he going

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>to get overshadowed by Lebron and Russell Westbrook? I you know,

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to expect out of Russell Westbrook.

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:51.359
<v Speaker 1>If it feels like he's gonna his style is going

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.959
<v Speaker 1>to be the same. The question is is he still

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 1>shooting forty percent? Is he going to average, you know,

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:02.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight and eight? Does Lebron average twenty five? Again?

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Does he average twenty five and ten? How good is

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>their record going to be this year? Now, that's why

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought Steph Curry is that was going to be

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:14.760
<v Speaker 1>a surprise, like almost like a reintroduction of Steph Curry

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>and the Golden State Warriors. It didn't happen obviously with

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Klay Thompson. But Steph Curry is another player. I thought

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 1>he'd be the MVP last year Yannis. That might be

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>some voting fatigue with Yannis. Joel Embiid maybe might look

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 1>at him, if depends on what happens with Ben Simmons,

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>but I would I don't think it'll be Luca. I

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>would say KD because we might look at Kevin Durant

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>because he's going to do this without Kyrie Irving. Although

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I think what Harden did last year was underrated because

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.760
<v Speaker 1>he played the point and you know, he played well.

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 1>But I think KD is probably he would be the

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 1>guy that I would pick to be the MVP. Eight

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<v Speaker 1>seven seven three d P Show email address dpat dan

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Patrick dot com, Twitter handle at dp's show Delhi and Chicago.

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Joins us Hi delling what's on your mind today? Thanks,

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 1>thanks for taking my call. I wanted to say I'm

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 1>a little like Fritzie. I'm five eight two fifty Yeah,

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, exactly, But hey, I have my question is

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna pick a team and stick with them,

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:29.840
<v Speaker 1>because you're wavering very much between the Chargers and the Titans.

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Your Chargers, your Titans. Which one are you gonna pay?

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:40.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a tough question for me, Deli, but I was

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 1>I've been on the Chargers bandwagon a long time. I

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like if I get off, they're going to go

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 1>to the super Bowl. But I did have a soft

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>spot in my heart preseason with the Titans because I

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 1>just thought that style and you get them in the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs and they would be a tough team debate, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'll stay with the Chargers. You know, the Titan fans

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<v Speaker 1>won't let me back on because it felt like every

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<v Speaker 1>year I was saying, you know, the Titans or eight

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<v Speaker 1>and eight, Now you're gonna be eight and eight, seven

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<v Speaker 1>to nine ninety seven. That'd be it, and they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>know why I hated their team. Yeah. Point, but you

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<v Speaker 1>get criticized because mclovan makes fun of their division. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and it gets pinned on you. Yes. Yeah, Nate, and

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma's back? Hi, Nate, what's on your mind today? Hey? Dan?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take any fans, yeah, that you want for other

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<v Speaker 1>than Titans needs all the help we can get on

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<v Speaker 1>the size and speed comparison you guys talked about earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take any chance I can to point out Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Allen when he tackled the Interceptor in his rookie year.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy that game last night was awesome. Hated losing Caleb Farley.

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<v Speaker 1>Just hate to see that for that young man. But man,

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<v Speaker 1>that game reminds me of the nineteen playoffs when we

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Ravens. Just that internal rush by Jeffrey Simmons,

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<v Speaker 1>the leadership by Kevin Byard. I just I think it

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<v Speaker 1>could be a special thing. But I'm being cautiously optimistic

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<v Speaker 1>with our schedule. Yeah, it's a tough s jeal. But

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<v Speaker 1>what Simmons did on that quarterback sneak, I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>he was pointed out on the mother Ship in the

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<v Speaker 1>pre games. He was somebody to keep an eye on

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<v Speaker 1>because he's an impact player. He doesn't get the recognition

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, obviously Aaron Donald gets. But what he did,

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:21.359
<v Speaker 1>you know that up the middle pressure that he did,

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 1>and you know he kind of caved in that blocker

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<v Speaker 1>right into Josh Allen. Josh Allen said, you know, I slipped.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was getting in there. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't slip. Ryan and Tampa, Hey, Ryan, what's on

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<v Speaker 1>your mind? Oh no, I'm just getting in I wanted

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>to let you know that I am a big Rams

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<v Speaker 1>fan from way back when and Jared Goff. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm asking your opinion? Just do you think Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Goff has something mentally wrong with him? Because a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago he went to the Super Bowl, which

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<v Speaker 1>is something Matthew Stafford hasn't done, and he looked like

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<v Speaker 1>he was a world beater a few years ago. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think, in your opinion, he has something like mentally

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<v Speaker 1>blocking him from being better than he that he kindly

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<v Speaker 1>is thank you Dad. Well, I don't know if it's physical,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do know that when your coach loses confidence

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<v Speaker 1>in you and you're still on that team and then

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<v Speaker 1>they decide that they're going to pay you, then get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of you, and then bring in Matthew Stafford, it's

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<v Speaker 1>got to mess with you a little bit. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>have another head coach who is saying, hey, Jared Goff

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<v Speaker 1>has got a step up. Yeah, you know you probably

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<v Speaker 1>have you know PTSD. I think is that what it is?

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<v Speaker 1>Post traumatic stress this order? I mean you might have

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<v Speaker 1>that where you lose confidence and at that position can't

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<v Speaker 1>lose confidence. Yeah, Poe, And I think Jared Goff don't

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks always talk on Tuesday? They usually make the starting

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks available for the media. He has to talk today

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<v Speaker 1>after all what happened this weekend. He said, he's got

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with the RAMS side of this, and then

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<v Speaker 1>his own coach bailing. Yeah, I know that's pretty tough that.

0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've already had Sean McVay say public, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't handle it the right way. I should have

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<v Speaker 1>communicated with Jared Goff, you know, before we were trading him,

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>and now Jared Goff has to talk about going back

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<v Speaker 1>to face the Rams. But also, hey, your coach basically

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>threw you under the bus. What do you think about

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:18.479
<v Speaker 1>what coach Campbell had to say? All right, Final hour

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, talk some football. Peter Schreger from the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Network will join us Dan Patrick Show.