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Speaker 2: I'm really happy to be here on the KG show.

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Speaker 3: You know, uh, the demographic that we're targeted for sure,

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Speaker 1: I start KG Certified to have a platform to be

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's dope to have a platform

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Speaker 2: So that's what we're gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: I only know KG from the Court. I don't know

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Speaker 2: It was It definitely made me stronger, and that's why

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Speaker 1: In the art of competition. That's what it is. So

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Speaker 2: You were fans. You know, fans make the game. I

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, fans, I'm fans of people.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm fans of sports. I'm

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Speaker 1: you what move like? So yeah, but and all in all,

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Speaker 3: It's important to speak your truth, you know, and you

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you know you don't have time for that. It's

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Speaker 2: Put our minds to it.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, you're doing you're thinking it's good man,

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Speaker 2: First I wanted to show you is the move I

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Speaker 1: I think mental right, just like the boom you go

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Speaker 2: That's how we wow. You see, that's how you did it.

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Speaker 2: That's that's your story, that's your okay, let me see it.

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Speaker 2: What did you see? A. First of all, it wasn't

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Speaker 3: No, you was catching the rock. Ha, I'm in your

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Speaker 1: This is the moment of generosity. Thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 1: Bro, when you get from when you get this, where

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Speaker 2: Give me on your all. After that playoff series, so

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Speaker 2: Joke.

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Speaker 1: You the only nigga I know to take that take.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what this is. I got to

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Speaker 2: I was hit him with that.

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Speaker 1: He was doing nothing. He was doing all this shit

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: I love everything you've been doing.

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Speaker 2: Man, Yeah we're working. We're working hard. Man. You know, purpose,

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Speaker 1: we battle, bro and it was nothing like that mental

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, take it takes a real wind

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Speaker 1: was was, No, I don't hear a lot about like

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Speaker 1: take me to your early beginnings. I didn't know you

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Speaker 1: you from New York.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm from New York.

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Speaker 1: We're part of New York are Front.

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Speaker 3: I can't play tenna, I can't. But unlivable though, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a dull right right? But if if you can,

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Speaker 1: No, I'm just sure like you can. We can go

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll fuck you up with that ship for sure.

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Speaker 1: No, No, you'll fuck me up. You fuck me up

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Speaker 1: Who do you credit for your basketball knowledge? In your build?

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Speaker 2: Now, I was Long Island Panthers.

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Speaker 1: All the way left.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you would gets the establishment exactly.

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Speaker 1: Lenny Cook. Shout to Charlie V too, yo, because many

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Speaker 3: No, we had we had a squad. We had a

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Speaker 3: but I could watch everything. I saw Lenny play against Lebron,

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Speaker 3: it was. It was tough from the beginning because Lenny

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Speaker 1: And Lenny's real too.

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Speaker 2: Yo. He had a real game, real game.

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Speaker 3: I came into New York. I came to New York.

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Speaker 3: You're playing with all inner city kids, playing with Lenny.

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Speaker 2: All these guys.

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Speaker 3: I would never get in the game, never, but I

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Speaker 1: And you soaking up, you soaking up culture, you soaking

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Speaker 1: how to do, how not to do?

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Speaker 2: What today's mathematics knowledge.

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Speaker 3: God, you know I love Ray Kwan two. So no,

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Speaker 3: The culture out there is just it's on another level.

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Speaker 2: So that's and you know.

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Speaker 3: Being able to play all these street ball tournaments, that's

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Speaker 3: You look at Chicago. You know, we're doing a lot

439
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,359
Speaker 3: of work in Chicago with the kids and stuff, but

440
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 3: they can't even do that no more. They taking the playground,

441
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 3: they taking the rims off the playgrounds and all that stuff.

442
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,639
Speaker 3: So just to have a basketball streetball culture, you know, DJs,

443
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 3: DJs people on.

444
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,360
Speaker 2: The mic while you're playing in the trees.

445
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,440
Speaker 1: I played in New Yo. Like I'm a journeyman too.

446
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 2: Bro.

447
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,520
Speaker 1: One of my my favorite things you should do is

448
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 1: go play everywhere West fourth Rock, one hundred and fifty fifth,

449
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 1: Dykman Basketball City, downtown, right where else they playing that?

450
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,440
Speaker 1: Because I won't to say, man I Gordon Malone took

451
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 1: me to Brownsville, never ran never will you know what

452
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, man, Steff, take me to Coney Island.

453
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,439
Speaker 1: I'm playing in the garden over there. Man, you hear me,

454
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 1: You hear what I'm saying. I hear exactly what you can. Badgers, bro,

455
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,880
Speaker 1: you get them Badgers. The Badgers make you straight up.

456
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,640
Speaker 1: You got a favorite place to play in New York?

457
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,400
Speaker 1: Let me hear your park.

458
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 3: My favorite part was Kingdome west of Kingdom Uptown, right

459
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 3: in the middle of the projects. And after I didn't

460
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 3: play my freshman year in college. I remember my homie Roscoe.

461
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 3: He was like, Yo, you gotta play in these tournaments.

462
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 3: Be this shit's gonna get you right.

463
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 2: So I remember playing at Kingdome, voice of Harlem on them,

464
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 2: like doing all this shit, Like what you're gonna do?

465
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 2: What you're gonna do? You know what I mean? Everybody's

466
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 2: smoking ones everywhere. You know what I mean. It's hostile.

467
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 1: I love it.

468
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 2: It's hostile. You need that environment. So now I'm I'm

469
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 2: in there. Next thing, you know, I'm grabbing the rebound.

470
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 3: Wow, I'm not passing it to the guard. I'm bringing

471
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 3: up myself a button. Mad as hell.

472
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 2: Adrian looking at me like, yo, pass me the fucking

473
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 2: round on the point guard.

474
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 3: But you know I used to like to get the

475
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 3: rebound and bring that ship up myself. I got the

476
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 3: whole crowd going crazy. That shit really got me hyped.

477
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 2: You know.

478
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 3: I didn't come from that environment, but to be able

479
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 3: to play in that when I came back the next year,

480
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 3: we end up winning the CHIP, getting the MVP.

481
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: But it got me.

482
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 2: Right Florida, right, why University of Florida. I love coach

483
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 2: Donovan man.

484
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, shut the coach Donovan.

485
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 3: Man out Coach Donovan. Do you know the Irish dudes

486
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 3: they got something. There's something in the water over there.

487
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 1: You know.

488
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 2: They they different but work at the crazy IQ. And

489
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 2: you know what what I loved about Coach Donovan is

490
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 2: he used to do our individuals himself.

491
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean. So y'all going through all, Okay,

492
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: he jumping in there, jumping in there, he's starting, he's

493
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: retiring to work out. He was like, I got the

494
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 1: whole thing planned out. So I knew there was not

495
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: a lot.

496
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: Of coaches that would that would do the individuals, you know,

497
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: so that was big.

498
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: That's huge too, and that's growth and it gives you

499
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: confidence and continuity because now you know what he's thinking

500
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: and what he's probably expecting.

501
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: From you, right exactly. You know.

502
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: The one of the things I watched you when you

503
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: was in Florida. Uh, Like I said, I can't remember

504
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: the first year, but your second year was so adamant,

505
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: just how you and Al I forget. I know Corey

506
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: Brewers on that squad too, and y'all had another guard

507
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 1: or something, Toryan Green. Yeah, I'm going blank on all

508
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: your names, but watched the continuity man. Torian Green was

509
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 1: on that jo I'm watching. I'm watching y'all continuity and

510
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: just to passing the Big Man, the Big Man and

511
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: y'all looked like y'all have been together forever. You know

512
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

513
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 2: Talk about that team at Florida and what made y'all special.

514
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 3: I think we loved being in the gym, you know.

515
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 3: I remember I came into school, I had my two bags,

516
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: and I met my college teammates in the gym right away.

517
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 3: We're checking up one on one. I'm like, Okay, you

518
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 3: know this is going to be good because we were

519
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 3: in the lab. We were in the lab and we

520
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: lived together that class just lived together, so you know,

521
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: and the good thing was same shit.

522
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: Coach Donald was like, yo.

523
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 3: If you get the rebound, he didn't let the point

524
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 3: guard come back and get the rock.

525
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: So now we you know, well that.

526
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know what, we were playing all summer,

527
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 3: so we were like as freshmen.

528
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 2: We were coming and we were playing.

529
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 3: Against you know, David Lee, Matt Walsh, Anthony Roberson, and

530
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 3: you know, we were competing with those guys.

531
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 2: We were busting the ass. Actually, but that's another that's

532
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 2: another story. But it was good. You know what I'm saying.

533
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 2: We were on it.

534
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 3: We were on it and from the beginning and then

535
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 3: after the second year we won the chip. We had

536
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: so much fun playing together. You know what I'm saying

537
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 3: that we did it again. That was crazy.

538
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: When did you start to think about the league? When

539
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: did you start?

540
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: For me, it happened later. It happened later. So it

541
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 2: wasn't until after we won that first chip.

542
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: That people were like, okay, Joe, you can you know

543
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 3: you're probably going to be a top three pick.

544
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 2: It's time for you to go.

545
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 3: But you know, I wasn't too worried about I didn't

546
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: have to worry about you know, taking care of moms,

547
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 3: taking care of pops.

548
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: I knew they were all right. So when when Corey,

549
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: Corey's situation was a little bit different, and when Corey was.

550
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 3: Like, Yo, let's go back to school, Let's let's do

551
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: this shit again, like we just we're having too much fun.

552
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: You know, the league can wait.

553
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 3: And I know that's a that's a rare position to

554
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: be in, you know, especially when we had we had

555
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: opportunities to go get some money right there, and and

556
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 3: when Corey said that, we all decided to come back,

557
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 3: and you know, it's I'll never forget those moments, those memories,

558
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: you know, just the competition, being able to win trophy, bring.

559
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: It back to school. It was wild.

560
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: Man, have the bulls out in your back? Did it

561
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: feel different?

562
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: It did.

563
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 3: It wasn't as fun to me, you know. The expectations

564
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 3: sometimes were heavy, because you know, when you have when

565
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: you're in the league, you know you can protect yourself

566
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: being a little bit outside. You have your money, you know,

567
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: you take your care of your family. But when you're

568
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 3: in college, you know, we living in the dorm, so

569
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 3: you got people coming at you from everywhere.

570
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 2: So that was that was a lot at times.

571
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all had no like shelter or nothing, nobody to

572
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: kind of protect you from that. But then y'all students,

573
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: y'all in every day, every day hustle and bustle.

574
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 3: Right, I mean yeah, but you got the students knocking

575
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 3: on the doors, you got students waiting outside your dorm.

576
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 2: You know you're not protected. We lived, We lit as hell,

577
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: so it was it was fire though it was fire.

578
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: Are you following all the NIL stuff?

579
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: Bro? The N I l shit, not really, to be honest,

580
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: but I'm had for college. Huh.

581
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: I said she was doing for college.

582
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: I think it's good.

583
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: I said, you fuck with it? No?

584
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, you know college was a great time.

585
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 3: When I look at it, you look at how much

586
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 3: how much money this shit is generating, you know what

587
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 3: I mean? The annihilists just kind of putting a band

588
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 3: aid on it.

589
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: But the reality is.

590
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: This tournament is generating billions of dollars and kids aren't

591
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: getting paid on it. So the NIL is a good start,

592
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: but to me, it should be more.

593
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

594
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: Are these players employees? These players the players start are

595
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,719
Speaker 1: playing in college swimming, softball, baseball, basketball, football, track, whatever

596
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: you're doing stickball, goddamn whatever. Would you consider that an employee,

597
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: not just a player, but an employee. They're working, they're

598
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: working for well, yeah.

599
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 2: One hundred. Everybody need everybody who's generating some bread needs

600
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: to get paid. I think that's just that's just fair.

601
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the standard to me, standard. Right. Yeah, But

602
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: they call them players and don't call them employees. They

603
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: would not label them that. You think players. Do you

604
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: think the nil would hurt players in any way from

605
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: their determination and wanting them to get to the next level.

606
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it shouldn't. It shouldn't.

607
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: They might.

608
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: I mean I've seen them many times.

609
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: Like people get contracts, people get money, It makes them

610
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 3: sawce sometimes all back fall back. It depends on the

611
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 3: person's personality, you know what I mean, And what's going

612
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 3: on with that person too, right, Yeah, Like you just

613
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: said your situation was different for court bro. He probably

614
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: have to do things a little different because of his

615
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: situation exactly. But now it's taking you away from the

616
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 3: important shit, and that's putting that block word, elbow word, shooting.

617
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: Being in the court, being on the court.

618
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually said, man being a friend was talking

619
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: and uh, he asked me, he said, you think giving

620
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: guys bread at an early age is a bad thing.

621
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, we all are different,

622
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: you know, and I didn't want to generalize, but I

623
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: was like, I don't think it's a bad thing for

624
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: someone like you. Think of kids that you know, a

625
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: middle class and don't have that, you know, struggle and

626
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: no shit like that. They still got, you know, come

627
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: out great people. They still out, you know, come out

628
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: with professionals and stuff. So it's not a bad thing.

629
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: But I understood what he was saying, does it not

630
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: give them them instead of anymore? So I was like, nah, listen,

631
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: I always say, man, if you really want to see

632
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: if someone loves something, give them everything, give them a

633
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: boat load of money, see if they still work hard.

634
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: Because I'm telling you, once you get in between them lines, man,

635
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: don't nobody give a fuck about what you made. If

636
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: anything's a bigger target on, you're bad right.

637
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: That thousand a thousand percent.

638
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: But that being said, you know it's big business. You know,

639
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: that's why you play hard. You know, you work your

640
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: ass off to be able to be in those positions.

641
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: You know, we bless this games giving us a lot.

642
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 3: But for sure, I mean I think if if kids

643
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: have opportunities to make money, they should make as much

644
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: as they camp.

645
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: For sure, that's what it's all about.

646
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: I believe that too. So, you know, it's crazy hearing

647
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: you talk about New York. You know, I lived in

648
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: Chicago for some time, came out of high school there.

649
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: When you when I hear you talk about New York,

650
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: it's dead ass mirroring. I mean a straight mirroring of Chicago.

651
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: A ton of hood tournaments, north Side, west Side, south Side,

652
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: you know, High Park, east Side, like wherever you can

653
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: find a game, and you can get into some of

654
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: these places and play, that's where you play at. And

655
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: then playing in some of those environments gives you those

656
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: badges that I was talking about. So when you get drafted,

657
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: you go through the draft process, you get to Chicago,

658
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: does it feel like New York?

659
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: Uh?

660
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: Parts of it?

661
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: To me?

662
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: It was to me, Chicago was rougher a lot of ways.

663
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: You know, that's real, that's reality too, that's you know, yeah,

664
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: you know, I think that I've been studying a lot

665
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: of conflict resolution, you know, in Chicago, working with a

666
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: lot of angels out there who changed their lives, doing

667
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: work with the kids, you know, the kids who are

668
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: you at risk of the bullshit. So shout out Kobe

669
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: Williams for all the work, you know, just being able to,

670
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: you know, teach me. I feel like, you know, when

671
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: you play for the Chicago Bulls, you have a responsibility

672
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: to this wherever you're playing, you have responsibility to that.

673
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: City, community, to that community.

674
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: So looking up to you, to me, all that stuff

675
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: was the biggest blessings that you know, the most impactful

676
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: stuff I ever did was not on a basketball court.

677
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 3: It was, you know, working with these violent prevention groups

678
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: and really just going in there, even though I didn't

679
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: come from that world, just really going in there and

680
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: listening and using my position as a Chicago bull player

681
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 3: to you know, do basketball tournaments bring the guys together?

682
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: Because it's a divided city. There's a lot more than

683
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: a lot more than New York is. You know, when

684
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: you say, oh, I'm from the Bronx, people aren't saying.

685
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: Oh, he represented it, he's with that group.

686
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: Or you say oh, I'm from Brooklyn, you're not saying,

687
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: oh he's this, he's that, he represents that set.

688
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: You know, in Chicago, it's like that.

689
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: No, I was like that right in some of the

690
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: yester years of older times. It was a huge migration

691
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: of the blacks that came from the South trying to

692
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: get a better life. And when they got to these

693
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: bigger cities, just like New York, just like Philadelphia, just

694
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: like in Chicago, they fell upon really really hard times

695
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: and in some instance where the police wouldn't even come

696
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: to the nahborhoods because it was so bad in some

697
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: of these rural areas that the neighborhood had to actually

698
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: band up and protect the neighborhood. So then all the

699
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have these neighborhoods come up

700
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: with these little street games and they neighbor them street games,

701
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: called them street communities, street groups, whatever you want to

702
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: call them, but they was real protectors of the neighborhood.

703
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 1: When the women and stuff were to get you know,

704
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: robbed of the persons and stuff, they went to the

705
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: local who ran this neighborhood to go handling the situation,

706
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 1: and vice versa. Same thing with small businesses, windows getting busted,

707
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, the little petty theft things in the neighborhood.

708
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: Keeping the neighborhood clean came from these these city groups

709
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: and it wasn't until the soldiers came back from war.

710
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: Now guns and drugs are introduced, creatures of habit would

711
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: the last to get resources, all the stuff compiled and

712
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: you got an environment now. But these street groups never

713
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: went anywhere. If anything, they unified, there was communative and

714
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: when they became problems, when they had all a strategic

715
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: structuring and they all want the build on something to

716
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: make their communities better. You know what I'm saying, we

717
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: can all sit here and talk about the definition of

718
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: what that looks like. I hear what you're doing back

719
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 1: in Chicago. Talk about some of well I think you

720
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 1: just tested on a little bit, but talk about what

721
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: you're doing in Chicago with gun prevention, with bringing these

722
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: groups together to at least start dialogue, because I feel

723
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: like when you start a dialogue, a lot of these

724
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: groups look at themselves as they are different going into

725
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: the dialogue, and once the dialogue starts, they see that

726
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: they're very much alike, They're very much on the same page,

727
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: and they're very much parallel in their efforts to make

728
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: something better. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I want

729
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: you to speak a little bit on what you're doing

730
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: back in Chicago, because I think it's not only what's needed,

731
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: but I think it's so important for people to hear.

732
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: I appreciate that doubt and salute you too, King for that.

733
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: Appreciate that real shit.

734
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: You know. We're working with.

735
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: A lot of violence prevention groups and being able to

736
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: bring them together through sports, through basketball, so we do

737
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: the basketball League. It's not about getting the top talent,

738
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: it's about bringing the guys together and giving them a voice.

739
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: You know. Obviously there's a lot of hardship.

740
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 3: In the neighborhood, and if we can bring them together

741
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: as much as possible, I think a lot of beauty

742
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: can come out in the unity, you know, and being

743
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: able to talk, and.

744
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: Because everybody's just so divided.

745
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: So I think that one thing that was really important

746
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 3: was just being able to bring the guys and come

747
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 3: to the game, give them tickets, you know. I think

748
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: that that also gave me a lot of strength when

749
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 3: I was playing, because I knew I was playing for

750
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: more than myself, you know, And that's why when I

751
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 3: played in Chicago, I think it just definitely I knew

752
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: I was I knew I was I had My purpose

753
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: was stronger than ever and still to this day, look

754
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: I'm done playing, I'm still on it. And you know,

755
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: the reality is the violence isn't getting any better.

756
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm not trying to come over here.

757
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm not going out there preaching to anybody, but you know,

758
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: it starts with just doing shit like this.

759
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: Like you know, when I'm walking in the street I'm

760
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 3: in New York, people might be like, yo, fuck KG

761
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 3: and they don't even know the situation. I'm hearing people

762
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: like talking about a moment that happened twenty years ago,

763
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: you know, And I want the I want people to know, Look,

764
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 3: this is about conflict resolution, and you guys are dealing

765
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: with with shit on a much bigger sk scale.

766
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: You know, when you're.

767
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: Talking about nobody dying, nobody's dying when you're playing basketball,

768
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: you know, so when your cousin's getting killed, you're talking

769
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: about conflict resolution.

770
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: You know, that's that's real.

771
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: Perspective, Like how do you how do you diffuse the

772
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: situation without somebody getting killed or somebody going to jail.

773
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 3: So the reality is the violence is not getting better.

774
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: But there has to be a bigger investment in the

775
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: community and bring guys together and get letting them talk

776
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: their shit out. You know, it's not about It's not

777
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: about me. I don't like coming into environments like that

778
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: preaching and telling them about my It's not about my story.

779
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 3: This is about the guys coming together. And if I

780
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 3: can help bring the guys together, I'm gonna do that.

781
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: I love that, Bro. If you need any help with that,

782
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: let me know, BRO. I'm interested in not only bringing

783
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: people together, but starting to talk and changing the script.

784
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 2: Bro.

785
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: Script needs to be changed. I feel like these young

786
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: kids are looking for or have an all the ology

787
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: of an idea that they want to believe in but

788
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: don't know how to execute it. I think the old

789
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: heirs want to help these young guys but don't know

790
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: how to go about it. And I think when you

791
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: get them together, it's beautiful because you get an older

792
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: generation and new generation coming together. I can't say that everybody,

793
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: or it doesn't always feel like they want them to

794
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: to be together. Sometimes it feels like you won't, you

795
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: won't you want it at odds, or it's felt like

796
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: it's promoted to be at odds. And anything that can

797
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: change that narrative or anything that can change that script,

798
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm all for. So let me know, BRO. Real ship

799
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: real ship.

800
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: I love. That's that's why I came here for.

801
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: No real you know what I'm saying. I want you

802
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: to know that, man, and man, I love what you're

803
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: doing with Africa. Man, I see the African League, bro,

804
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: talk about it? Man, what you is that a real thing?

805
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: It's coming, It's coming.

806
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: I saw your I saw you're real. I saw your

807
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: real you know you're in your team sent me. I

808
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: was like, it had Obama endorsing it, it had it

809
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: had the lead talk about the African League.

810
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: Man, Well, it's something I'm really proud of, you know,

811
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 3: just to be a part of a of a league.

812
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: So now you look at it. You know, when you're

813
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: a competitive when you're in it, you don't look at

814
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: the big picture.

815
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: You don't look at the wide scope.

816
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: Of you in it.

817
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 3: And now it's like, okay, I'm a part owner of

818
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: a league in Africa. This is really special because I

819
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 3: would go back in the summers, you know, at the

820
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: height of my career and there's so much work to

821
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: do and now you know you're you're alone and it's

822
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 3: like you can't change your culture, like you can't do

823
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 3: this shit by yourself.

824
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: So now it's.

825
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 3: About bringing you know, your network bringing all the people

826
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 3: together to do this ship. But when this opportunity came

827
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: to be able to be a part to invest in

828
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: n BE Africa, for me, it was no brainer.

829
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 2: I was like, this is exactly what I'm looking for.

830
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: You know, but basketball is not a big part of

831
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 3: African culture yet. But you know, you look at Joel

832
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: mb he probably the MVP of the league right now,

833
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 3: but the reality is he started playing basketball at sixteen

834
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: seventeen years old.

835
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: So imagine when they lower the hoops and they got the.

836
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 3: Little shorties, wait till these young African boys come in

837
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 3: with the hot.

838
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: Hesy right to put their own li on it exactly.

839
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: So we don't have that yet. That's not there yet.

840
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: So the league is great. You know, the NBA has

841
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: invested a lot of you know, a lot of big

842
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 3: leaders are invested. Now I'm at the table with the

843
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: big dogs, so I'm learning a lot. I'm learning a

844
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 3: lot about business. But at the same time, it's like, yo,

845
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: let's really focus on the grassroots.

846
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: And what I'm hoping for is like, you know.

847
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 3: OG's who are done playing, who want to give their

848
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: you know, their experience, their leadership, Like we can go

849
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: and do that. And the reality is we're so blessed

850
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 3: in America. People don't realize, like Cameron got one indoor

851
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 3: court in the whole country.

852
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: One in the whole country.

853
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: So now you start building infrastructure where you have the

854
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 3: ogs coming in and really showing these kids how to

855
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: really hoop.

856
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: It's a rap.

857
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: How they building it? Are they building it from legos

858
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: like Nigeria, Cameroon, a coach some of the bigger South Africa?

859
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: Are they starting with some of the bigger the bigger countries.

860
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: Right now there's two there's three big arenas. So they're

861
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 3: in Senegal, you know where there's probably the two best

862
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: academies for the kids on the continent to learn. So

863
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: a'm au Galla Fall who's the president of he was

864
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: he was a scout for Dallas.

865
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: I saw that, so we were we were, we were.

866
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: Tight coming up. You know, I almost went there to

867
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 3: play with Dirk when I came in, but we always

868
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 3: kept our relationship and you know, when he became the

869
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 3: president and there was an opportunity, I jumped on that.

870
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: But right now, the big structures, the big stadiums are

871
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 3: in Rwanda, in Senegal and in Egypt.

872
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: But we still have we got ways to go, We

873
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: got ways to go. But the talent is there, for sure.

874
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 1: I saw, I saw it on the rail. I saw

875
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: I saw obviously on the social media, and I see

876
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: a bit some pieces I saw Ja cole Go in

877
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: the league play. Do you see, matter of fact, on

878
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: the scale of one to ten, when it comes to skill,

879
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: what's the what's what? What's what's Africa? The continent as

880
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: we know basketball And by the way, basketball right now

881
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: is the international. It's a European sport right now.

882
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

883
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: The moves that's in the game, the euros the flopping

884
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: don't look American. And then the best players are European.

885
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: Give me a take on that. You agree with that.

886
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of great European talent, but

887
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: I mean there's the talent is coming from everywhere man,

888
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: and it used to just be States States.

889
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: So it's not like that no more so. But what

890
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: people in the States have to realize is, you know,

891
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: I don't care where you're from. You have everything here.

892
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: You got everything, you got the best facilities in the

893
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: world are here, the best coaching is here. But I

894
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: feel like the kids are are spoiled as hungry, not

895
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 3: as hungry as the world. As the world, the world

896
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: is hungrier. So that to me, that's where I want

897
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: to put my I want to put my energy. When

898
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: I'm talking to it shorty, he's not looking at me like, oh,

899
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,479
Speaker 3: he's not playing no more like you know, I don't

900
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: care about my Instagram is not going to be as

901
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: lid as it was when I'm not trying to hear

902
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: all that shit I want to when I'm talking to

903
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: you about basketball, I want you to be one hundred

904
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: percent in it. And yo, I haven't experience in this shit.

905
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 3: I played against the best players in the world. And

906
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: if you hungry and you really want it, I want

907
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 3: the kids out there to really have an opportunity. So

908
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: that's what this league is showing these kids. They don't

909
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: have to fly all the way to the States to

910
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: go to you know, boarding school or.

911
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: Go play NCAA. You don't have to do we're just

912
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: talking about NIL.

913
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: There's a league out there, a professional league, and you

914
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: don't have to leave home. So obviously, you know, Africa

915
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: is a huge continent. There's a lot of different cultures.

916
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: You know, South Africa's culture is very different from the

917
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 3: North uh, you know in East West Vice it's all different.

918
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 3: But the reality is when you lower the hoops and

919
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 3: you let these kids play and they get the good coaching.

920
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: It's a rap. Imagination takes over imagination.

921
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: Soccer still huge over there.

922
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: Soccer is huge.

923
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: Soccer sotillners, right.

924
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 2: They winners. But same thing.

925
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: It's like, yo, the guy, and we got to invest

926
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: in the in the structures, do you know?

927
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: That's what it is.

928
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: It's like just if we can invest in this. But

929
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 3: to me, it's like my purpose is stronger than ever,

930
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 3: more than when I was playing. It was like when

931
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 3: I was playing, I was representing the Bulls. I was

932
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: representing my team, and I try to do that to

933
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 3: the best of my ability. Now it's not about me.

934
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: It's just Okay, I have my experience, but I'm watching.

935
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 3: I know what it looks like. I know what a

936
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: good practice looks like. I know again better looks like,

937
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: you know, because I lived that for most of my life.

938
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 3: But and I saw that I did that in Europe,

939
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 3: you know, starting to play basketball in France. The same

940
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 3: same facility as where Victor winbin Yama, same place that

941
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: he's coming up. So that's why I started playing and

942
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: so I saw, I saw the grassroots and what it

943
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 3: looks like in Europe.

944
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: America as well.

945
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: You know, we talked about that New York City streetball

946
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 3: term all this stuff, and now Africa, it's like, Yo,

947
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 3: they're building slowly but surely. But when the investment starts

948
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 3: coming in and people really see, like, yo, if we

949
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: put this you know, if we put this time in

950
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 3: right now, this next generation from over here is going

951
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 3: to be on another level because they're hungry.

952
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 1: Greater than the G League.

953
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: No, not yet.

954
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 3: It's not better than NCAA. I wouldn't say it's better

955
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: than the Super Raw Raw Raw, but.

956
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: It's the same thing.

957
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: It's like you look at African dudes when they come in,

958
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: right and they come to America.

959
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 2: First of all, what's their job? The dirty work?

960
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: You set, the screens, you roll, you don't rebound, don't

961
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: ask for the don't you dare ask for the ball.

962
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: That narrative that's changing. You got Embiid was about to

963
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: go m VP.

964
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: You passing, you better passing the ball every fucking time

965
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 3: down the court.

966
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

967
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: See Il come come down with dribble pump pump, fake

968
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: one dribble, pull up right hand hook you got Jannis

969
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: who a year or your ass to death and put

970
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: you in the rim like Shaq like yeah, yeah, it's

971
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: totally different. The whole narrative is changing, the whole narrative.

972
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: But the resources are not all the way there. But

973
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: the time and the equity and the investment has been

974
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: there for those players to be like this, wouldn't you say?

975
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean it worked out with Cold. Johanna's worked out

976
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: with me. You know, Johanna's worked out with other NBA

977
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: Jason Kidd, Jannis has had the investment. Think about m B.

978
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: M B got not one year, he said, out two years.

979
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: Think about their investment on on Africa and the players

980
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: that come out of there in the time usually oh

981
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: you know this and in the times where because I'm

982
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: a little older than you, but bro, you don't get

983
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: two you get two years for you can get two

984
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: years two years meaning somebody was like nah, yeah, we're

985
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: gonna wait on.

986
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, but in the league that's a different thing once

987
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 3: they're already there that I see what you're talking about.

988
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: Those investments are making I'm expecting listen, all the fun

989
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: you got to work out with COVID.

990
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 2: Nah.

991
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, you're gonna be different at some point. I'm

992
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: waiting on it to hit so that. So I'm saying,

993
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: when you drop those resources in there, I don't think

994
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: there's gonna be something. I look at it. I see

995
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: Africa being greater than the China League, and I say

996
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: that because of the sourcing right there. Once you start

997
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: throwing the imagination, start teaching, you start teaching little things

998
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: like getting your head up and identifying in the Once

999
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: you start really getting through the nuances and tangibles that

1000
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: really make the game, the details those kids, imagination starts

1001
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: taking off for sure. You know what I'm saying. And

1002
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: that's what needs to happen.

1003
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: That's what needs to happen.

1004
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but you you you walk to the

1005
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 3: market out there and you might see a dude that

1006
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: looks like he never touched the basketball.

1007
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: He he looked like you, bro, just like me. He

1008
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: looked just like you.

1009
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: She never touched the basketball before, you know what I mean, never, never, ever.

1010
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: He's sixty eleven, motherfucker. All that purple, black, green, all

1011
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: that blue, all that shit, right, Super Melani, right, super,

1012
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: don't even know what does it?

1013
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: What is this?

1014
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 3: What is that Are you serious? That's the that's the

1015
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: reality of the thing. So now we're building a course.

1016
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of people doing a lot

1017
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: of dope shit. We just got to keep it up

1018
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 3: and keep building.

1019
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 2: Damn.

1020
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 1: That's twenty years behind, twenty years behind, twenty years behind,

1021
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: twenty years. Damn. How you speak? How you speak? That up?

1022
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: Camps involvements because I know they I know the NBA

1023
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: does something over there, right or they go over every year.

1024
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: I know Tumble used to be bigger than I'm shout

1025
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: out Tumble, shout out shut. What's what's the guard from Toronto?

1026
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: I'm going blank on this name? Helped me rich? What's

1027
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: the what's the African? Yeah? Yeah, I see him sending

1028
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: a huge charge. So every every year. Now, I think

1029
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: we need to put the investment of these camps flo

1030
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: some of the old HEAs over let them because you

1031
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: know they know us. And then it's so it's so

1032
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: hard on some of these young guys who are playing.

1033
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: You play the whole season. I know you don't want

1034
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: to take your summing and go over to Africa. Then too,

1035
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: I think that script is gonna start changing, right for that.

1036
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 3: That's the reality at the end of the day, it's

1037
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: taking your time, just giving your time, and that's that's

1038
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: the most important thing.

1039
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: You know.

1040
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,479
Speaker 3: We get some of these ogs to come over there,

1041
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 3: that means a lot. It goes a long way, does

1042
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 3: and these kids they appreciate it on another level. So

1043
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: that's really what my focus on more than you know,

1044
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: the investment in the league. All that stuff is great,

1045
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 3: but focusing on the grassroots part.

1046
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 2: If we get this piece right.

1047
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 3: Then the league is only gonna blossom, you know. So

1048
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 3: you know, I love I love talking about this with.

1049
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: The guys and see, really who who's into it?

1050
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: Sometimes I talked talk to guys about it and they're like, man,

1051
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 3: they're not interested. But the guys who are and who

1052
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 3: were like, yo, I want to know about my heritage

1053
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 3: a little bit. You know, it's deep, you know. Going back,

1054
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 3: we did a beautiful trip with d Rose last summer.

1055
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: We brought his high school team to Senegal, so he

1056
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: was playing against the best competition in Africa at the

1057
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 3: NBA Academy and it was like the cultural exchange was beautiful,

1058
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 3: you know. So being able to have do that trip,

1059
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 3: I had just got married. I was on my honeymoon.

1060
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,959
Speaker 3: Who was like, Okay, I want to do this trip

1061
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 3: to Africa. I'm not missing that shit.

1062
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: So we went. It was awesome.

1063
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 3: We went to go visit the slave castles, you know,

1064
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 3: and then it became a trip that was bigger than basketball,

1065
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 3: you know, because now you got kids from Chicago coming

1066
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: in competing against the guys in Africa. They in Africa,

1067
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: they looking around there was and the same thing. It's like,

1068
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: you don't even have to preach, you don't have to

1069
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 3: say because they're just you know, taking in this experience.

1070
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: They're coming back to their neighborhood and they're like, yo, inspired,

1071
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: how is Africa?

1072
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: And they can they have They have a real story

1073
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: to tell, you know, So talk about perspective.

1074
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: That was. That was one of the dopest things I

1075
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 2: ever did in my life, to be honest.

1076
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: That's so you gotta go through it. Ship, You got

1077
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: to go through the whole shot and do that. By

1078
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: Farragut would do something like that, man. So now I

1079
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: got to ask the question is the is the It's

1080
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: the ideal is to bring like, uh, some African teams

1081
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: over in the summer and have them play some of

1082
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: some of the talent in Chicago and get kind of

1083
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: that experience and back and forth.

1084
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 3: I mean, to me, that's that's my dream, that's the move,

1085
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: that's what that's the move.

1086
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: Benm GM are you listening. We're gonna sponsor that idea.

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Speaker 1: hear me, Yes, talk about it, man, Nod's Art Foundation.

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Speaker 1: You know, shout the Nords Art. You know what I'm saying,

1090
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Speaker 1: y'all doing big things, No doubt I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Man. I love that name. Man to talk about a

1092
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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 3: What's nord ar uh Noah's Ark is a foundation I

1094
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 3: started with my mom's.

1095
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Speaker 2: You know, mom was on the West side.

1096
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: Shout the mom exactly.

1097
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 3: Mom was, you know, knocking at the Major Adams Community Center.

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Speaker 2: Mom.

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Speaker 3: Mom does a lot of art therapy with the kids.

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Speaker 3: So my mom was very hands on in the work

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Speaker 3: in the community. She would come out when she came

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00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: visit me watching him play. She would always go to

1103
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Speaker 3: the community and do.

1104
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: Do work with the kids with the art.

1105
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 3: And then you know, I was doing these basketball tournaments

1106
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 3: with with the Ogs, and to me, I always I

1107
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 3: always loved the Vets. You know, the Vets to me

1108
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 3: was probably the most. It was amazing getting the knowledge

1109
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: from them. You know, I think about you know, Kurt Thomas,

1110
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 3: you know Keith Bogan's even scal. Scal used to come

1111
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 3: in and talk about about you all the time, like, Yo,

1112
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Speaker 3: there's so this is how, this is how, this is

1113
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Speaker 3: what KG used to be.

1114
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Speaker 2: I'll be like, man, I'm nobody trying to hear that

1115
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: ship right now.

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Speaker 1: Man, it was just a motivation, some insight. Shout the

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00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: White Mama.

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00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: Shout out to the White Mamba. But you know, before

1119
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: before we get out.

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Speaker 3: Of here, I just want to also talk about, you know,

1121
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 3: the motivate TIBs man. And you know, I know we're

1122
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 3: talking about Noah's Ark, but let me let me finish

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Speaker 3: on no good Good take your.

1124
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: Time, but Noah's Ark. It has been special.

1125
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 3: But you know, we're really focused on the work in Chicago,

1126
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 3: and right now it's about this basketball tournament that's starting

1127
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: up this summer using the twenty eight violence prevention groups.

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00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: Come together.

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00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 3: We got South Side going on, we got the West

1130
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: Side going on. Bring the guys together, have the conversation.

1131
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 3: It's more than just basketball. When I talk the basketball

1132
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 3: part is cool. We're bringing we're doing that, but all

1133
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 3: the programs that are going to come in the conversations

1134
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 3: that are going to come after. That's what it's all about.

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00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 3: And that's that's my mission right now. My purpose is

1136
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 3: stronger than ever. And yeah, man, I'm fucking really hyped

1137
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: to be here right now because like we're talking about,

1138
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 3: we're talking about conflict resolution. You know, I want people

1139
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: to know I'm about I'm handling mine right now, you

1140
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 3: know what I mean. People are going to go in

1141
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Speaker 3: the street and say they can say whatever they want.

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Speaker 2: This one was for me.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I love it. Are

1144
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: you watching? Are you watching the NBA? You're keeping up

1145
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: with it?

1146
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 2: For sure?

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00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: All is it bug Is it bugged out to watch?

1148
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: Still going?

1149
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: It's not bugged out.

1150
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 3: It's bugged out that I'm rooting for Boston a little bit.

1151
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: I want him to get it.

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00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: You're getting this, yo, y'all hit us. We got the

1153
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: whole room.

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Speaker 2: You heard this right right?

1155
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: Say that again? Nah?

1156
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: Just but mostly I can't. I want to now for

1157
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: I want hor Fee to get one bad.

1158
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 3: You know, he deserves it, the fact that he can

1159
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 3: still go playing at a high level, and you know

1160
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 3: he's making that team go.

1161
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 2: You know, and and it's always the importance of having

1162
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Speaker 2: like the right O G.

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00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: And that's more than just basketball. That's in life, like

1164
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 3: having having guys that you could talk to. Has been

1165
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 3: through every situation. He's that guy.

1166
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Speaker 2: So really proud of him. The way he's handling his business, and.

1167
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: It's on that three ball really changed everything for him.

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00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 1: He started. He's you know, it's weird that it got

1169
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: it got it got preached to us to stay away

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Speaker 1: from it, right she I'm trying to think of big

1171
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: Sta shot the three now a lot, not a lot, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm going blank. Apologies Dirk Dirk, but I'm watching the

1173
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Speaker 1: Red the re emergence of a guy like Brook Lopez

1174
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Speaker 1: goes to the Lakers, start shooting the three, and next

1175
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: thing you know, he's having a whole nother career, right man.

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00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:48,479
Speaker 1: Al Horford's in that same category. The three ball has changed.

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Speaker 1: And then last year I watched him change the cold

1178
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Speaker 1: course of why the Celtics and destroy it or if yeah, yeah,

1179
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: he he destroyed in that series. To me, he actually,

1180
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Speaker 1: you know, but then when you look at Al, he

1181
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: took it. It was a year in Okay, see where

1182
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: he didn't play, where he had the whole year to

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Speaker 1: just not only work out but be on a roster

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Speaker 1: still be here. How long do you think al continues

1185
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 1: to play? If you know how well?

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Speaker 3: So I was my college roommate, and you know, I

1187
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: think if his approach is his approach is definitely the same.

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00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 3: You know, he's even in college, he was probably like

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Speaker 3: the most professional person that I ever been around.

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Speaker 1: It's always been big like this for as long as you

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Speaker 1: know him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he got bigger.

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Speaker 1: For sure, I know that, but he's always been in

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Speaker 1: a like a a bigger person.

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Speaker 2: Yes, like center, you know.

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Speaker 3: But you know, it's funny because when we were in college,

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Speaker 3: I was playing top of the key.

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Speaker 2: He was the one who was playing in the post.

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Speaker 3: You know. But you know he's he's an all around

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Speaker 3: player and just like you said, you know he got

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00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 3: that three ball, but more than just basketball. I think

1202
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Speaker 3: like when I talk to like some of the guys

1203
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 3: talk to Jalen Brown, all started a little bit and

1204
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 3: just like the respect that he gets from.

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Speaker 2: The guys, that's that's dope to me. You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, he's a good o G. And you know

1207
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 3: he's been in this situation. So now he's fighting for

1208
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 3: you know it's the end of It's who knows, he

1209
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 3: could probably play for a little more, but you know,

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00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 3: just to be in that position to be able to

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Speaker 3: wake up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I got the playoffs today. I got

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00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: a playoff game. Like, that's the ship I missed the most.

1214
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, those moments of just you know

1215
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 2: you in layup lines. I mean that that to me

1216
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 2: is like those.

1217
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 3: Moments playing against y'all. Like I could, like hear the

1218
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 3: in the air tonight, I can hear that song.

1219
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 3: I'm those layup lines. I was so crunk, I couldn't

1221
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 3: even feel my legs. Bro, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It was just super super It was the best. It

1223
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 2: was the best.

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00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 3: So those moments is what I missed the most. This

1225
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 3: is the time of the year that I missed the most.

1226
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 3: And you know, I really hope hor if he gets one.

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Speaker 1: Playoffs exposes everything. You can't hide anything, ain't nothing new.

1228
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: They know what you love to do, they know they

1229
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: know your catalog of moves. And I actually think that

1230
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: this is when players get better because you got it.

1231
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: You can't go with the A and B, right, So yeah,

1232
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: my CND is nice too, though, you know what I'm saying.

1233
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: So I want to this is where I want to

1234
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: see like the real nice players or the players. So

1235
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: we got on like higher levels, go to another level

1236
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: with it.

1237
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: And those those playoffs.

1238
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 3: Man, it's like you think that the you know, you

1239
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: get to the league and you think that the season

1240
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 3: is what the NBA is all about, you know, But guys,

1241
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 3: there's so many games that it's hard to play at

1242
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: that level every night.

1243
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: You know.

1244
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 3: I think some guys do it, but as a whole,

1245
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 3: when you get to the playoffs, I mean that first

1246
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 3: time I.

1247
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: Hit the playoffs is against you. Guys. You will hurt

1248
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: that series, but that series, like it change.

1249
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: My life great. Serious, by the way, it was hard

1250
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: watching that ship. It was hard sitting there and not

1251
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: being able to physically contribute. When you give me your

1252
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: assessment on today's game, man, like you're still young enough

1253
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: to be understanding of these young guys.

1254
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: You know.

1255
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: The funny clip I love on the internet is when

1256
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: y'all in summer, y'all in the summer playing and y'all

1257
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: double double booker. He was like, man, I'm trying to

1258
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: work on my game, man, Like ain't no double team

1259
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: in summer, Like, yes it is, and you just kept

1260
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: moving like on some O G ship. What's your assessment

1261
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: at the young generation right now? Man?

1262
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 3: I think that the game is just is different. The

1263
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 3: kids are just way more polished. Man's say, everybody's better.

1264
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,959
Speaker 3: And the difference between yes, skill wise, but one through

1265
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: eight you're the first seed against the A seed.

1266
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: These games are close.

1267
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 3: Like the talent you the fifteenth guy on the roster,

1268
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 3: the difference is not that big. You know, these guys

1269
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 3: are getting better. I think the talent is is better

1270
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 3: and it's just different. You know, guys, if you can't

1271
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 3: shoot the ball, you're.

1272
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: Not playing no more. Fus, you're not playing no more.

1273
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: You need the three balls. The difference in generations, I

1274
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: think so it's made the big not so traditional. You're

1275
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: traditional big right now. I don't give a fuck. How'm

1276
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: nice you're on the box. If you can't shoot the

1277
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: floating three, if you can't take it, if you can't

1278
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: take the trail three or make a three in the corners,

1279
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: and it's got to be I'm talking about like six

1280
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: for ten type shit. You gotta be like sixty percent

1281
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: from those two and he giving it to you. You

1282
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: ain't doing shit in on defense. Try They're not having

1283
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: bigs come up no more and actually be up. Steph

1284
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: Curry comes off of the top screening roll. You're you're

1285
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: in the paint like it's no ice. They don't push

1286
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: things to the side no more, like MANE forty five, Like,

1287
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: come on, man, what the fuck? Come on man, it's

1288
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: Crealy been fighting in the locker room bro for real,

1289
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: Like like like yeah, but it's all designed for a

1290
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: different audience, and this different audience shit to be hyped

1291
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: up like that. They're selling offense and then come playoff times.

1292
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: I feel like they're selling defense because I'm so hyped

1293
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: in you know what, me and my homies be sitting

1294
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: here watching the TV. Man, it'd be like one forty

1295
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: you know forty.

1296
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1297
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: It does trip me out, Like yesterday, I'm watching the

1298
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 3: game and I'm seeing like I'm not even gonna whatever.

1299
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 3: He gets the offensive rebound. You you got, you got

1300
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 3: Chris Paul on you, you got like you got small

1301
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 3: guys on you throwing that ship out for a three.

1302
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, you come on man and go up.

1303
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: Analytics, Go up analytics.

1304
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 2: That that bugs me out. That trips me out.

1305
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,479
Speaker 1: If you was commissioner for for two years, what would

1306
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: you change? Damn, it's a tough question. Lord, gotta have

1307
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: you on your toes.

1308
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1309
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: I changed, Yeah, first thing you changed in day one.

1310
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 3: Well, I'm happy that they changed the piff that. I

1311
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 3: think that the weed thing was great. Really, I'm really.

1312
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: Happy about that. Guys can just at the end of

1313
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: the night relax, can relax.

1314
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 3: See, we didn't have that, and so I'm happy that

1315
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 3: they did that.

1316
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: That ship took a lot of careers too, bro a

1317
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: lot of careers, and they never did anything about drinking

1318
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: and all. That ship took it out of locker room.

1319
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: But I start drinking such a bigger, harsher habit than

1320
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: than anything else in our obviously harder drugs, the harder drugs.

1321
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: But I was watching motherfuckers get drunk on every night

1322
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: and me, what like, nah, because you need to live

1323
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: on in your kidneys and all that, you know what I mean.

1324
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm glad they actually relaxed on that guys

1325
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: can actually have solutions to some of these elements that

1326
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: they have. Because you know, nobody wants to say this,

1327
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: but anxiety is a real thing. Some of these conditions

1328
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: are a real thing. You know, uh as ain't gonna

1329
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: fix but so much, you know what I'm saying. So

1330
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: I totally get it. Man.

1331
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think that that was that one

1332
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 3: was really important because I don't think people realize game.

1333
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 3: You know, you're playing a game at the highest level.

1334
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 3: You got twenty twenty thousand people going crazy. You know,

1335
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 3: you think with that kind of adrenaline being on the court,

1336
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 3: you think that you're going to sleep at twelve o'clock

1337
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 3: just all the game's over, it's time to go to bed,

1338
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 3: Like I can't. I couldn't shut it down. I couldn't

1339
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 3: shut it down. So I'm happy that guys have, you know,

1340
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 3: have that outlet to just be able to calm down,

1341
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 3: meditate on it, and get some resting. I think the

1342
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 3: rest is the most important thing. You know, guys, guys

1343
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 3: are getting hurt left and right.

1344
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that.

1345
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: Man.

1346
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: You see how they talking about sixty five games, and

1347
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: you see how they are you a fan of Loaves management?

1348
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 3: Not really, but I mean it's tough, man. I mean

1349
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 3: everybody's different.

1350
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 2: You know. It's like you look at how people are

1351
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: talking about Kawhi and shit, Yo, Homie's fucked up. Homies

1352
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: fucked up.

1353
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 3: So that's that's load management, just because it wasn't my way.

1354
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't the way we were raised.

1355
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, you know, I

1356
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 3: can't I can't be over here just because it wasn't

1357
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 3: my way and say you know what's right and what's wrong.

1358
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 3: You know, some guys need that shit for real. So

1359
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 3: is it hurting the game or is it helping the

1360
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 3: game or hurting the game? Would you say load management?

1361
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: Load management?

1362
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of analytics in it that's

1363
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: just taking taking away the soul of the game. You know,

1364
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 3: listen to the guys like sometimes like yo, sometimes you

1365
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 3: got to play through Ship so and and you know what,

1366
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 3: that's how you get your respect. Like when I when

1367
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 3: I go around in Chicago and people are talking to

1368
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 3: me and they're like, Yo, thank you for your services.

1369
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,439
Speaker 3: That's not because that's because I was playing through ship.

1370
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 3: You know, That's because I was battling in the playoffs.

1371
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 3: You're not going to get that because you got a

1372
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 3: big contract or you know, just because you were a

1373
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 3: good team. No, you gotta you gotta fight through that

1374
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 3: shit times. But sometimes the guy, I think there's a

1375
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 3: lot of like nerdy ship going on where people are like, oh,

1376
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 3: you know you're you're in the red. They're putting all

1377
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 3: kinds of stuff to get data and all this. You know,

1378
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 3: listen to the guy, man, just listen to the guy.

1379
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,479
Speaker 3: Sometimes I think it's it's it's too much.

1380
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: I know you, I know you spoke through him earlier.

1381
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

1382
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: First off, shout out for you being a ambassador of

1383
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: the game for the French team. Shout out to you

1384
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: being the ambassador for the Chicago Bulls. You know what

1385
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Those are those are real key points. People

1386
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: just don't get those real ship. That's respect to you.

1387
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: Talk about Victim a little bit. Man, is he is he?

1388
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: What is he? As advertised? I see I see him

1389
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 1: do one legged threes? I see him. First off, he's

1390
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: how tall is bro man? Bro seven seventh for really?

1391
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like seven four look like a seven four k.

1392
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, like long win biggest wingspan NBA in the NBA.

1393
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: Right away, you shoot them.

1394
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 2: You can shoot that for real and we'll see. You know,

1395
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 2: there's a lot of expectations on him.

1396
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 3: I hope that he gets a good coach, he's surrounded,

1397
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 3: he's in a good environment.

1398
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: You know how that can be early on.

1399
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 3: So if he's in a good environment and a good structure.

1400
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 3: I don't know him well enough to really know you know,

1401
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 3: who's going to be coming with him when he gets

1402
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 3: to the league and stuff. But you know, when you

1403
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 3: come in you are top pick, you know you're going

1404
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 3: to a not great team. Then that's why these playoffs

1405
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 3: are so important, because when you have that playoff energy

1406
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 3: from the locker room, and you know the guys that

1407
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 3: played in it, they can.

1408
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 2: Be like, yay, we fucking around right now, it's January.

1409
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 3: But when that ship, when April may come, you know,

1410
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 3: that's a whole different animal, you know. So that's why

1411
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 3: you're in the weight room more that I mean that

1412
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 3: playoff series.

1413
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: I want to just talk about it a little bit.

1414
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,439
Speaker 3: It's just that first playoff series just shaped my life, man,

1415
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 3: and that's my basketball career. You know, just playing against Perk,

1416
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 3: I was getting pushed, I was getting pushed around, and

1417
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 3: and that summer I remember I was like, okay, like

1418
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 3: that's not happening, no more, that's not happening. It motivated

1419
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 3: me like crazy. I remember you know even I mean,

1420
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 3: I'm in my house. I'm smoking them like yo, I'm

1421
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 3: putting the blunt down like I gotta focus. I gotta

1422
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 3: stay focused. We got we gotta go back because that feeling,

1423
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 3: there's no better feeling that I'm going back doing my

1424
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 3: push ups.

1425
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 2: You know, Celtic Circle on the calendar. Real shit. I

1426
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:43,919
Speaker 2: love the real shit.

1427
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: This is a platform for all the older cats, all

1428
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: the cats I banged against, all the casts, I played

1429
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: against all the casts. I respect all the cast got

1430
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: something positive going on. I'm here to echo what they're

1431
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 1: doing on this. You know, I'm so I got partners,

1432
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: don't have no boss in this, And so I left

1433
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: turning at that experience that came over here and got

1434
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,439
Speaker 1: with showtime. And we're just building something. So I wanna

1435
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to. I want to keep

1436
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: doing that. But I'm watching Dough, I'm watching you, I'm

1437
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: watching Baby, I'm watching Ta, I'm watching Perk. I'm watching

1438
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of young cats under me come under this

1439
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: and want to be in this and do it a

1440
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: whole other way. So you know, we're just trying to

1441
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: We're trying to be a door Mars can come through. Yeah,

1442
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: because right now, if you ain't going to ESPN, you're

1443
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: going to turn and you sitting there like in limbo.

1444
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I see Gill doing this thing.

1445
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: I see Knuckleheads Queue and the three Miles doing anything.

1446
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So everybody, I'm trying to

1447
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying to bring us all together and do something

1448
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: on a bigger joint, you know what I'm saying. Not

1449
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: just have it be over here, you know what I'm saying.

1450
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: And that's how this is.

1451
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 2: Man.

1452
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of the younger generation man or

1453
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: generation that was younger. And one of my favorite matchups

1454
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: that I enjoy watching was the Rondo Derek Rose match.

1455
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: And you know, my perspective was just like yours. I

1456
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: was always seeing it from like you know what I mean,

1457
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,959
Speaker 1: And I was watching these two great point guards be great.

1458
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about playing with Derek Rose man

1459
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: his greatness.

1460
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: I mean, Derek is.

1461
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 3: You know, he's it was. It was awesome playing with

1462
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 3: that guy. You know, just what he represented to that

1463
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 3: city of Chicago looked like it too, looked like y'all

1464
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 3: have chemistry, and.

1465
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 2: He was just like, you know, he's a quiet guy.

1466
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 3: But you know, every time he stepped onto the floor,

1467
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 3: you know, we felt like we had a chance to win.

1468
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 3: So that was he gave everybody around, not just the team,

1469
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 3: but the whole city. Was so much confidence, you know,

1470
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 3: just his talent alone, just the way he approached the game.

1471
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 3: He never ran from no matchups. You know, I remember

1472
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 3: his first year. It was a funny story. Uh you know,

1473
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 3: he Kirk Heinrich was our best pick and roll defenders.

1474
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 3: So he's going Nash and Vinnie deln There was like, yo, Kirk,

1475
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 3: you got you got Steve Nash. And Who's like, nah,

1476
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 3: I got Steve. Nah, I'm the point guard. I'm not

1477
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 3: running from no matchup.

1478
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 2: So the whole the whole locker room quiet as hell.

1479
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 3: But that's the kind of guy, and like who was

1480
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,799
Speaker 3: not taking no for that as a rookie, as a rookie,

1481
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 3: So that's the kind of energy he had. He didn't

1482
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 3: want to run from no matchup, you know. And he

1483
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 3: was about this this he was all all about this

1484
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 3: hoop ship. And he was the quiet guy. I was

1485
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 3: a loud guy. So we were kind of you know,

1486
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 3: we even though we came from completely different worlds, we

1487
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 3: mashed like we were brother we're still brothers to this day,

1488
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 3: and that's something I'm proud of. It's like, Yo, it's

1489
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:51,759
Speaker 3: not about I'm proud of our brotherhood with those teams.

1490
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 3: You know, like Luall Dang, shout out Luall Dang. All

1491
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 3: the work that he's doing in South Sakdan president of

1492
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 3: his country in basketball.

1493
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,719
Speaker 2: They just qualified for the World Cup doing real, real,

1494
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 2: real real ship shot him up d Rose too.

1495
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 3: It's like just to see the ship that he went through,

1496
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 3: the adversity that he went through with his injuries, and

1497
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 3: just to see him at peace with the game the

1498
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 3: way you know, his role as a OG with the

1499
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 3: younger guys, like that goes a long way. Like he's

1500
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 3: not playing as much now, seeing him just being there,

1501
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 3: being supportive, being there with the guys, and you know

1502
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 3: the guys are looking at like, Yo, if he can

1503
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 3: handle it and handle his ship like a like a

1504
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 3: man and handle his adversity like a man. Yo, They

1505
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 3: the guys on the knicks are seeing that every day.

1506
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 3: That goes a long way. So you know, I appreciate

1507
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 3: that guy, not just as a hooper and the greatness

1508
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 3: that he was as a hooper, but the way he's

1509
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 3: handling his ship.

1510
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: He shocked he's still in the league.

1511
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing shocks me with that guy. Nothing shocks me

1512
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 3: with that guy. But I just like, I like his mindset.

1513
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 3: You know, I think that people in his position there's

1514
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 3: there could be a lot of He could be bitter

1515
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 3: about a lot of shit because you know, the injuries

1516
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 3: probably robbed him of some of his greatness. But to

1517
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 3: see him at peace with it is what I'm the most.

1518
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 2: Happy because that's my brother. At the end of the day,

1519
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 2: win to lose, I don't give it.

1520
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 3: It's more about seeing him happy. That's what I care about.

1521
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 1: Love that, that's what's up. And I'm not. I look

1522
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: at bro as lord great and when you're great, you

1523
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: just don't put that out It just don't go nowhere.

1524
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: You know you're great for a reason. It's a lot

1525
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: of times in between what's between your ears, you know

1526
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So when I watch him play the

1527
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: other night, Tims threw him in there. Tim and Tims

1528
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: still together, by the way, right, they gonna they gonna

1529
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: go forever. Right when I've seen Tims threw him in

1530
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: there for like two seconds, he got the joint through

1531
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: the lib like it was just I'm just in Central Park.

1532
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm just chilling like, yeah, man, make shout to d

1533
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,759
Speaker 1: ros Mamber huge, huge d rolls.

1534
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 2: It's not over. It's not over either.

1535
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 3: Keep it going, b Tis Tis Tims might not be

1536
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:10,759
Speaker 3: playing him right now, but he might be somewhere.

1537
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 2: No, you never know.

1538
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: Listen, it's good to have him right there where you

1539
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: can put him in there. Ain't he ready, he's sitting there.

1540
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. On go so yeah, shout

1541
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: to d ros Man. It's my dog man. I gotta

1542
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: ask you just, bro, would you ever get into coaching?

1543
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 2: He no, have no.

1544
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's like you got a lot of knowledge, Bro.

1545
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 1: You got a lot of energy, you got a lot

1546
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: of vision, you got a lot of knowledge. Man, you

1547
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 1: gotta some of that ship. You know what I'm saying.

1548
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 1: I know it's I heard you just say you got married,

1549
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: if you got kids with at some point you gotta

1550
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 1: pass this down. And I'm sure you do this to

1551
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: when you know dealer with your you know your African

1552
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: teams and everybody else. But I want to know that

1553
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: would you go back to Florida, take a take a

1554
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: coaching job, or would you.

1555
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: I don't mean there's.

1556
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 3: Too much politics and coaching, you know. I actually I coached.

1557
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 4: All Star game, the rookie Sophomore game, and there was

1558
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 4: a kid on Houston and I didn't play him at

1559
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 4: the end of the game, and he should have.

1560
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 2: I mean, it was an All Star game.

1561
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 3: But I got competitive and I was like trying to

1562
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 3: win the game. I leave, I leave the arena and

1563
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 3: I see he's walking with.

1564
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 2: His grandma and I'm like, oh, ship.

1565
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 3: And Grandma comes to me, how you not this is

1566
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 3: the All Star Game. You should be ashamed of yourself.

1567
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 3: You don't play my son.

1568
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 2: And I was like, my grandma, you know what, You're right.

1569
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 2: I should have played. It was an all Star game.

1570
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 3: And he's like, Grandma, chill, Grandma chill, And I should

1571
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 3: have you know, I should have put him at the

1572
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 3: It was the All Star game. Everybody deserved to play

1573
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 3: in the All Star Game.

1574
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: But that's the kind of man. That shit fucked me up, though, He.

1575
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 1: Just fucked me up, Like, dang, grandma, you tell grandma

1576
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: you're trying to win that motherfucker Grandma trying to win it.

1577
01:13:54,920 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: That's drove right right, We got right in your ship.

1578
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, What's next for you?

1579
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: Man?

1580
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: What's next for me? Mean, I gotta throw this before

1581
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: you even answer that. My bad not to cut you off,

1582
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: excuse me, but Bro, you got a personality. Bro, you

1583
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 1: have a fuck with content podcast. Man, what's what's next

1584
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: for you?

1585
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 3: Look, that's another reason why I'm here. You know, I'm

1586
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 3: trying to figure it out. You know, I got my

1587
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 3: purpose work in order. I know a lot of my

1588
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 3: energy is going to go on that. But at the

1589
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 3: end of the day, I love what you're doing right now.

1590
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 3: You know the content is you know, it's the future,

1591
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 3: you know, because we need it.

1592
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 2: Man.

1593
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 3: It's like there's too much bullshit on the internet. You know,

1594
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 3: we need to have the ogs come in there speak

1595
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 3: their truth and you.

1596
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 2: Know, give it. Give the guy. This is a this

1597
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 2: is a great platform.

1598
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,600
Speaker 3: I'm just like really happy to be here and be

1599
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 3: able to talk about this stuff. I'm hearing people talking

1600
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 3: about things that wasn't their story. This is our this

1601
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 3: is there is a moment that happened between me and you,

1602
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 3: So being able to talk about this, I think it

1603
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 3: goes a long way, and it's just bigger than what

1604
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 3: happened between the lines, So I'm not really happy we

1605
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 3: were able to do this because to me, this is

1606
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 3: what it's all about.

1607
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 2: That's not respect.

1608
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:16,719
Speaker 1: That was great. That was great.

1609
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 2: That was great.

1610
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: Certified for real, certified, ain't no outro man certified