WEBVTT - Needs More Turkeys: Lothar Malskat 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:05.600 Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio Zaren Elizabeth. 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:11.720 There. I'm over here, you know, just hanging out doing 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:12.640 my thing, and. 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:16.640 I I have a question, what is it five times? 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:18.160 It's five? 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:21.200 Could? Do you know what's ridiculous? 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:26.640 Yes, dude, Okay, So recently one of my heroes passed away, 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:31.920 Bob Newhart. I thought, no, come on now, Bob Newhart 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:34.680 passed away, right, and I love that guy, and I 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.640 learned a fun fact about him, and it's ridiculous. So 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.320 his first album was called The Button Down Mind of 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:42.280 Bob Newhart, and I used to listen to his old 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:45.400 comedy albums, right, But what I didn't know was a 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.560 few things about this album. Well, for one, he won 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:54.440 the Grammy for Best New Artist as a comedian. I 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:56.040 think it's the only time that's ever happened. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:00.279 Oh it wasn't, like best New Comedian. Out of all 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:01.760 the recordings, he beat the Curse. 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.640 Yes, he beat like Also he beat Leontine Price and 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.039 Miriam mckiba. And he also beat Sinatra for Best Album 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.400 of the Year. I mean like it, yes, what, Oh totally, 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:13.959 it's okay, it's nuts like, oh ahead. Then he also 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.200 it is the it's the highest selling comedy album of 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:19.039 the twentieth century. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:20.320 And then you were listening to it as a kid. 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:21.840 I was listening to as a kid. So my mother 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:23.840 gave me all of her old Bob Newhart albums, and 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.280 I loved him. I memorized him. But the thing that 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.000 that's wild to me is so he he does that 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.080 recording that album. He recorded it down in Houston. It 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.200 was only the second time he'd ever done stand up. 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.760 What he never did stand up. And then all of 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:39.360 a sudden, they're like, hey, we want to do a comedy. 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:41.000 We want you to record it, like in like in 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:42.560 a club doing stand ups. Like I don't do that. 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:43.800 They're like, what do you mean. He's like, I just 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:45.759 I make these recordings and I send him in. They 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:47.960 play on the radio station, the DJ plays them. That's 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.600 how people know me. They're like, huh, well, can you 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:52.240 do it on a stage? What you do with the 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.080 with the fake phone calls and all that, And he's like, 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.000 I guess I can try. So he goes down to Houston. 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.559 He does one weekend, practices it in front of a crowd, 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.240 then next weekend does it live again, records it, and 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:03.480 that's what you hear on the album. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:09.000 Wow, that's incredible, it's amazing, It's ridiculousiculous. 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.280 And that's the greatest comedy album of the twentieth century. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:13.519 Highest Sailing gets them all these everybody recognizes it, you know, 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.919 both the credits and the fans. Yeah, and I couldn't 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:16.320 believe that. 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.080 Wow, that's ridiculous. 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:18.480 There you go. 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:20.840 Do you want to know what else is ridiculous? Totally 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:47.959 sneaky turkeys and a barefoot married Magdalene Good. This is 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:53.360 a Ridiculous Crime, A podcast about absurd and outrageous cavers 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:58.000 i and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:02.079 and one hundred percent ridiculous. Damn right, here we go. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.639 It's Ben whiles erin Why Where? Who told you that? 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:07.880 It's Ben A Whiles Since I told you about a 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:08.680 good art crime? 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:12.000 Oh yeah, you know I love these. So you finally 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.120 got my comments that I put in the comment box. 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:19.279 Oh no crimes again this week? Just yeah? 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.520 Well, you know, I'm not employee of the month every 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.560 month like you are. Maybe learned to park, I could 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:28.919 I just can't listen. Yes, I mentioned this guy or 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:30.679 as you would say, Katy. 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.560 And I know Louis Armstrong invented that as slang. That's 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.400 why I say it out of honor to Louis Good. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:40.240 That's good me out of him. And I talked about 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.880 this guy in our listener Mail episode Friend of the Show. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.240 Hondo recommended this guy, and let me say that was 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:51.080 a great recommendation. Yeah. Classic. So the guy's name is 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:56.160 Lothar mallscat. That sounds like when you're mallscat. It sounds 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.160 like when you're making up words to make a toddler. 0:03:58.360 --> 0:03:59.440 You know what scat is, right? 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:05.080 I know what? You know what a mall is a Lothar, 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:10.040 which like, okay, so right there, I'm sold. He's no bumfardo, 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:10.920 but it's good. 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:13.840 Of the mall people. 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.520 It sounds like the name of a small woodland creature 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.320 in like a British nature documentary that lines its den 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:25.080 in candy wrappers and scavenged pubic hair. 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:29.360 You can see that the wild loth ball scat. He's 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.360 been dwelling here for a bit of. 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.760 Time, behold in the natural habitat. Okay, but I kid 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:38.680 ha ha. Let's talk about the real Lothar. He was 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:43.440 born in East Prussia nineteen thirteen. Now it's called where 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:49.600 he was was Knesberg. Now it's Kaliningrad, Russia, Russia, port 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:52.160 city on the Baltic. So you've been there, hang out 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:52.920 there all the time. 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:54.120 I got a buddy who's still there. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:55.840 Yeah, you got jugged there. 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.200 Yeah, he's in the black markets. But I can't talk 0:04:58.200 --> 0:04:58.480 about it. 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:06.200 He's I need art at this art school, Kundan's Kuhnskatami Conesberg. 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.480 My buddy went so fun to say he's a dance instructor. 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:15.560 Uh. His professors said that he had quote extraordinary, almost 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:21.600 uncanny versatility, and he said it like that, and so 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.960 he's got that praise just ringing in his ears. He 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:27.159 goes to Berlin to make his fortune and his fame, 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:31.159 but it didn't work out that. Ah. He it's a 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:32.720 long way to the top if you want a rock 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:33.360 and roll buddy. 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.160 Oh yeah, many steps to get there exactly. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.839 So he transitioned media. He went from painting on canvas 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.320 to dropping canvas in order to paint walls. The boy 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:43.240 became a house painter. 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:48.800 Oh you're trying to say dropping dropping canvas, That sounds 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:53.760 like house painting. He got that real painting. I was 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.360 just doing some shop talk because look, it's not only beautiful, 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.440 but it's also effective. It seals in the house or 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.839 beautiful the walls, but also it's beautiful. Exactly what do 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.680 you do for a living the beautify the world? 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:09.479 Exactly be proud. In Berlin, where he was, there's this 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.680 guy named Dietrich Faye, and he was the son of 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:14.000 Professor Ernst Fay. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:15.680 These people, no, okay. 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.880 And Ernst Fay was for those of us who are cultured, 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.480 so you wouldn't know, not me. He was a well 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:27.039 known art historian and restore and Professor Fay kind of 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:32.279 hitched his wagonto the Nazis, oh choice, especially the ones 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.599 who thought of themselves as total art connoisseurs. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:35.799 Oh art, these. 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.960 Clowns such as Luftwaffe Commander in chief Hermann Goring. 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.279 Yeah, he had a huge stolen collection. Oh yeah, and 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:42.640 so like the biggest in the world. 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.040 I think Fay just like pals around with him. Fay 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:48.120 and his son, Dietrich, they went around and they restored 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.720 paintings and churches, and the professor taught his son the 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:56.320 intricacies of fresco restoration, and Dietrich he was like, really good, 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:56.800 that's one. 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.800 Of your favorites. Fresco restoration people who messed it up. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.920 Though totally we're good. Yeah, we'll talk about. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:04.159 That, okay. 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.920 So Dietrich, he's like super good at schmoozing clients and 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:09.400 like greasing government wheels. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.320 Oh of course, not an artist. 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:13.600 He's terrible at the actual restoration. 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:21.560 Just crap. Meanwhile, Lothar's rollers instead. Yeah, no, it terrible. 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.560 Well, no, he's not the house Lothar, the house painter. 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.480 He's twenty four, he's looking for work. So he gets 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:31.120 hired by Professor Fay, not as a restorer, but to 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:35.400 whitewash the family home. So the professor, though it takes 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.160 a liking to Lothar, and he loans them all these 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:42.360 books on ecclesiastical art, okay, and it's just like, you 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.760 know what, you seem to have your act together more 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.880 than my son art. And so over time the Professor 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.240 taught Lothart what it was to restore a work, like 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:52.960 the whole craft. 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.080 It's like, would you like to be my surrogate son? 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.560 Basically I will teach you the guild training kind of. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:02.600 But yeah, So nineteen thirty seven, Germany, the professor and 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:06.080 his son they get this huge contract to restore murals 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:10.320 in the Cathedral of Saint Peter in Schleswig, Schleswig. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:11.840 Sure, sure, I believe you. 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.800 It is this huge project. So they needed help, so 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:18.400 they hired Lothar to help them, and they were tasked 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:22.040 with removing some like inauthentic editions that had been added 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:25.160 to the medieval pieces. So in eighteen eighty eight, this guy, 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:29.040 August Albert's he comes in. He's hired to like bring 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.040 the old murals back to life. He got a little 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:34.640 too into it, Okay, So the earliest images on the 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:38.680 wall of the cathedral were actually first painted around thirteen hundred, huh, 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.880 and over the centuries damp set in, for sure. So 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.400 they hired August Olbers in the eighteen eighties to like 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:46.800 go and like, you know. 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:48.120 Freshen it up. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.200 He took some liberties and at the time everyone thought 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.200 it was fantastic. Like, so he took a bad blurry 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.280 image and he would paint over it to look like 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.320 he figured the original artist intended. 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.720 Oh and there's no living memory of the actual painting. 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.400 Yeah, And anything that he couldn't make out he made up. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.800 Yes, everybody had just been living with the hazy Yeah, 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:06.600 and that's. 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.760 How restoration was done then too, So by the time 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:12.480 loath are so, yeah, that looks right, and so loath 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.920 art comes on the scene and that's just not true anymore. 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.679 So by the thirties, people realize you can't trample on 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:22.520 the original work. You have to just like Learnt crud Off, Yeah, 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.560 to let the paint sing through. And so this is 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.000 totally calling to mind as you referenced one of my 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.640 favorite works of art, the fresco of Jesus in the 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.240 Spanish church that the lady painted over to quote fix 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.599 it made horrible. Yeah, I had a T shirt with it. 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.680 Happened to that shirt. It was horrible and awesome. 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.320 I bet an intern ticket. It's so awesome. Probably one 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:44.880 of the one of the hairy ones, the dogs. 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.840 I'm going to go looking through their closets. So Olbers, 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.720 he didn't deface the walls like that. He just broke 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.560 the new orthodoxy established by Cologne art historian Auto H. 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:01.800 Forster quote there must be no l of addition, completion, 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:07.360 or other conjectured reconstruction of any supposed original state. So 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.600 Olbers is like check, check, and check. Oh, I'm not 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.920 supposed to do those things. So now, Professor Fay and 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.520 his company. They've come in. They have to restore that 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:22.440 Undo Ober, Yeah, Undo Olbers. And when they started the project, 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.040 it pretty much scraped away all of the paint laid 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:26.160 down by Olbers. 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:27.800 I can tell you, I just has a house painter. 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.319 Unpainting is your least favorite thing to do. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.640 Yeah, yeah, And so they're trying to take Olbers off, 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:35.120 but they're taking even more stuff. 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.800 It's very difficult, it's really and they have. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.720 To work with what they have, the notes from the 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:44.120 eighteen eighties. So he has to restore a blank wall now. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.440 And so the phase decided they were going to have 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:52.599 Lothar repaint the murals from scratch and pretend they were restorations. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:58.280 So Lothar whitewashed the brick and then he like discolored 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.160 the line that he used with pigment to get it 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:04.520 that like lived in ancient Terror. Then he freehanded his 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:09.760 own version of the murals based on Olber's restorations, and 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.240 he looked at medieval examples to try and fill in 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.240 any blanks, and he drew the figures in earth tones 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:18.440 and like went all in on the medieval style. But 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:22.240 he also made a bunch of anachronistic errors on purpose. 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.920 Oh really yeah, Like the big one is that he 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:29.840 included turkeys in one of the corn tomatoes, and like 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.520 turkeys weren't known of in fourteenth century years. 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.200 None of those potatoes they world. 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:42.200 He also modeled the virtue Mary's face after Hanseik, Austrian 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:47.280 movie star, and he painted his father as a prophet. 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.640 And he used an old classmate as the inspiration for 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.920 the face of Christ. That's an honor. And when he 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.439 was done, the professor swooped in Fay and he just 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.680 rubbed a brick over the entire thing to give it 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:00.280 like wear and tear patina. 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.320 Did he have like a fishmonger? Who was the face 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.240 of Mary? I mean, like how deep did it go? 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:08.240 It goes deep? And people loved it. They're like, this 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.280 is gorgeous. An art historian at the University of bond 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:16.080 Fell by the name of Alfred Staunch, he just gushed 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:20.400 about Professor Fay and the restoration work said it was 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:24.720 quote as restrained as it was careful, and he said 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.760 it was the quote last deepest final word in German art. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:33.679 Like this guy got sensual with it, s all about it. 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:34.920 But he also. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.600 Didn't realize he was putting all of his name on 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:36.959 this too. 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.600 Yeah, well he had. He thought that the art had 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:43.520 another use. He wanted the government to use the murals 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:45.520 to promote Third Reich nationalism. 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:50.160 Oh that's right, German art the last word. 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.880 He thought the murals would be right up their alley 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:57.679 because first of all, the figures conformed to their stereotypes, 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.959 the blond and like the purity of the German. Yeah. Sure, 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:05.000 Lothar said in an interview later quote, I had to 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.679 paint the apostles as longheaded vikings because one did not 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:14.760 want Eastern roundheads. Okay, right, wow, But then there's the turkeys. 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.160 So do the Nazis really know that they're talking about 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:22.079 a Jewish guy in like the like not the Nazi 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.000 pass Like? Are they just skipping past that? Are they 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.600 trying to pretend like the Jesus, the Jesus is not Jewish, 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:28.720 the Disciples are not Jewish fishermen. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.079 I can't explain the disconnects. 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.160 Okay, I was just wondering if they were, Like, Also, 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.280 by the way, can we make everyone blonde in the picture? 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:35.319 Everyone comes from here? 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:35.559 Well? 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.840 So okay, so then we got the turkeys, sure, and 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:39.840 there are eight turkeys in the Mural. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:41.480 And twelve disciples. 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:48.280 Independent historian named Freer Kai. Sherman Hompkins I know, pointed 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.200 out that the turkeys were introduced to Europe by the 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.560 Spaniards in the fifteen fifties, so like, how are they 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:57.200 in this painting? The paintings had been given the okay 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:01.880 by the Nazis. Himmler himself had attested to their value. 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:06.839 So Sherman Hompkins, he couldn't question the authenticity without questioning 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:10.240 the Nazis. So he did like a good fascist, and 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:15.920 he questioned history itself. He decided that the paintings were 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.440 proof that the Vikings had discovered America. 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:19.000 I knew. 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.960 And then they brought the turkeys back with of course, 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.119 and people bought into this, so of course. 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:26.360 That makes the most sense. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.960 And it was already like a big Nazi talking point 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:33.280 that supposedly the German explorer Diedrich Pining had reached America 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:34.400 in fourteen seventy three. 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.680 They're not even going with like Leif Ericksson in history, well. 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.720 No, because then they're like, oh wait a second, this 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.680 just proves the Vikings had actually been there earlier, because 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.480 this is from the thirteen hundreds, and they brought not 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.680 fourteen seventy three, they brought the turkeys to Germany so 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.360 a dude could paint them on the walls of a 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.680 church and that was just fantastic, and that meant that 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:57.080 the Germans could then further cement their Viking pedigree. 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.240 Of course, really just drive home. 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:03.480 That Teutonics premisy. So the turkeys existing in early medieval 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:07.760 Germany became a part of Nazi cannon. What yeah, and 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:11.320 it got integrated into their propaganda. So a guidebook for 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:15.880 the church said, quote Arian seafarers went to America long 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:20.560 before Columbus did. Incidentally, Columbus is the descendant of Spanish 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:27.040 Jews from Barcelona. Like wow, people are disgusting, so gross. Yeah, 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:31.520 so about Columbus, right, I mean you got I can 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:33.200 say a lot about Columbus, but like. 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.280 Yeah, irrelevant. I find small mind and is funny sometimes, 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:37.720 so I can laugh at a lot of things. 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.480 The turkeys. The turkeys were painted in the eighteen eighties 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.400 by August Olbers, because that's when he was like, I 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:44.880 don't know what. 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:48.440 Goes in there to paint feet, And then after the. 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:52.680 Mural was unveiled in the nineteen thirties, eighty year old 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:56.280 Olbers comes forward and it's like, the mural is not 0:15:56.480 --> 0:16:01.720 proof that the Vikings discovered America because I painted those 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:06.040 jive turkeys in the eighteen eighties, like he confesses. And 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:07.920 he's like, I wasn't trying to pull a fast one. 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:09.800 I just couldn't figure there was a big empty spot. 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:10.960 I didn't know what to put in there. 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.080 Is doing this publicly to the authorities. 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:17.240 Publicly, oh wow, and to the like everybody. And he's like, 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.080 I didn't want to leave a bear spot. I paint turkeys. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:21.440 I'm really good at painting turkeys. 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:22.400 I love the gobblers. 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.840 He put a bunch of foxes, and he put four turkeys, 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.640 and they were supposed to symbolize the guile and gluttony 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:29.360 of King Herod. 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:31.080 Oh okay, okay. 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.760 So then Lothar he sees the turkeys, he's like, oh, 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.720 these are original. I guess what does he know from turkeys? 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:39.120 You know, who knows where they came from? They're just 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.000 delicious whatever. But remember I said there were eight in 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.840 the mural. Let's got Olbers only painted four of them. 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:48.360 Lothar liked how they looked, and he really liked painting turkeys. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.040 This is good at it, so he doubled up. 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.280 On it and they're so fun. 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.080 Yeah, exactly, nobody, thank you. 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.400 I did you know? You did celebrity pressions and animals? 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:04.440 Everybody it's me But okay, nobody listened to Olbers. Right, 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.040 So the old guy, they're like, you're senile, you don't 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.520 remember anything you see sad go away. 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.840 He's like, I did it. They're like no, yeah. 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:12.520 No, I'm sorry. 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.920 The Vikings sit down, grandpa, we have to talk about. 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.280 It was too important to the third Yeah, this is 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.679 the Viking legend and the Turkeys live on. 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.120 Yeah. So the war, there was a war. 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:24.080 I don't know if you heard about it. 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:25.760 Oh right, right right. 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.880 Loth Ars survived the war, but he couldn't get a job. 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:30.639 He had no money. 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:31.680 Was in the war. 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.160 Yeah, I know. He tried to make it as an artist, 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.160 and that by that I mean he painted erotic pinups 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.040 that he sold on the streets of Hamburg. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:41.159 Wow. 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:44.760 Yeah, so by the summer of forty five erotic pinups. Yeah, 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:49.119 summer forty five, totally broke, totally starving. He goes to 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:50.360 the phase to ask for. 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.119 What, how terrible is it that there you are? And 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:57.080 this specifically as a straight man who's broke, penniless hoping 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.280 to like get something, and they have to just stare 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.119 at like a beautiful woman who's half naked all day 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.240 while you're trying to paint this thing. It's like for 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.600 that guy, I mean, what a temptation of like, I'm 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.919 never doing anything like this. Oh god, terrible. 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:13.399 Anyway, I don't feel bad for him anyway. So he 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:16.400 goes to the phase looking for work. Professor Ernst died 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.520 in the war and so, and there weren't like a 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.600 whole lot of paying restoration projects going on. But Dietrich 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:24.160 the sun live and large. 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:25.600 So that wasn't big on the Marshall plan. 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.600 Huh well, I mean that didn't. That was you look 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.320 at like a few years later and you'll see shows that. Okay, yeah, 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.479 so Dietrich he's like wearing these like beautiful suits and 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:38.560 smoking expensive cigarettes just like he had before, and he's like, 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.000 Lothar aw high are you? And you can even move 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:44.560 into my servants quarters, thank you? But this is there's 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:48.879 no restoration work there. What's the there's work, there's art forgeries. Ah, 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.520 so the economy is in the toilet, but there's still 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.280 plenty of buyers, you know, on this black market. 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.399 And all this art that's been liberated. 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.639 Cash means nothing. People are trading in cigarettes. And they 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:03.080 also they protect their savings by buying things with lasting 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:03.960 value like art. 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:05.480 It's like the loose diamonds events. 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:08.240 Yeah, so most of the new collectors are inexperienced with it. 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.000 They just want to lock their money into a solid 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.600 piece of art. Most of the high value paintings had 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:16.359 been looted from foreign museums or seized from Jewish collectors 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.520 and families, which meant that like no one was asking 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:23.320 any questions about provenans lips zipped. So the collectors, they 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.720 figured someone else's bad luck, as they're a good fortune. 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:30.120 They're just lovely people. Collectors. They figured the art had 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:32.320 to be real with all the hush hush and all. 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:33.000 That's the thing. 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:34.919 Yeah, and the ones who had their doubts about the 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.399 authenticity just kind of like push it out of their minds. 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:41.359 They're just trying to survive. So Fee gave Loathar some canvasses, 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:47.200 some paints, and then a list of names Rembrandt, Shegal, Picasso. Orders. 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:51.600 They're coming in fast and furious from Munich, Frankfurt and 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:54.200 Lothar really had to like bust Rump to keep up. 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.679 He said, quote, sometimes I copied an old painting in 0:19:57.720 --> 0:19:59.920 a day. It took me an hour to do a Picasso. 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.680 But what I like best was to do new paintings 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.439 in the style of the French Impressionists. He had a 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:09.040 catalog of more than seventy artists whose work and or 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:10.040 style he copied. 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:12.440 There's the catalog for black market buyers to then sell 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:13.399 to annoying people. 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:15.680