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Speaker 2: Do us proud read enough?

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Speaker 1: No, we're running again, so smoothe so sweet, slipid.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen just glorious extecution.

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Speaker 4: Guys, all I'm looking for is sixty percent effort four

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Speaker 4: thousand percent of the time.

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Speaker 1: How shot with that? Shop with mind?

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Speaker 2: Good buddy, and that's why you see your beautiful tiers.

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Speaker 3: Look at his movements, the most.

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Speaker 1: Dangerous amount of the planet.

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Speaker 2: Nobody picks them.

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Speaker 1: Shut up, I'm trying. The one is.

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Speaker 1: Bibus how old Earth? Pick that happens?

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Speaker 6: Hilloa one and welcome back to Wondergol, the soccer betting

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Speaker 6: podcast from the Action Network minus Michael Leebop joining me

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Speaker 6: as always my hosts partners in crime, all of us

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Speaker 6: bathing in our riches from Morocco advancing to the Round

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Speaker 6: of sixteen and the Women's World Cup, BJ Cunningham and

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Speaker 6: the recently retired Anthony Dubundo by way of Morocco. And

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Speaker 6: we also have a special guest for our second straight season,

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Speaker 6: Alon Shapiro of the fml FPL Pod is here with

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Speaker 6: us to do our annual point total draft in the

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Speaker 6: Premier League. Alon, before we get into the draft. I

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Speaker 6: just want to get a quick sixty second summary from

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Speaker 6: you on how you see the league. Anthony, bj and

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Speaker 6: I went deep into the futures markets in our big

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Speaker 6: season preview podcast, so if you're listening to this, you

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Speaker 6: probably know how we feel and how Bja is basically

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Speaker 6: betting Arsenal minus two hundred to win the league at

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Speaker 6: this point, no matter what the number is, he's going

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Speaker 6: to take it. What about you, what do you think?

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Speaker 6: How do you see this? Ye Premier League shaken out?

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Speaker 4: I haven't listened in the futures pod yet, which is

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Speaker 4: But I think it's a fun, chaotic season incoming. I

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Speaker 4: maybe hard to watch as a fan of one of

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Speaker 1: So yeah, excited.

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Speaker 5: We've caught it the year of the Blob, because there's

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Speaker 1: In the middle.

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Speaker 2: There's one there's one team in the middle. It's just Brentford.

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Speaker 3: They're in their own maybe villa.

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Speaker 2: There's a nine. Yeah, there's a top nine blob and

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Speaker 1: Pretty much. I pretty much agree with that. It's not

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Speaker 6: We're all going to pick your favorite season point total

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Speaker 6: over under, whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: We'll go through all twenty teams.

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Speaker 6: So if Alan's favorite point total is arsenal under, he

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Speaker 4: Pick is is tough, dude, But uh, I think I'm

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Speaker 1: DJ's next.

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Speaker 4: So I'm tempted to just take Arsenal off the board,

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Speaker 6: We spent a lot of time talking about Wolves last night,

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Speaker 4: And the thing is, I think that if you don't

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Speaker 1: Of improving the team. It just seems like they're getting.

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Speaker 1: But I just don't really see the upside.

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Speaker 4: I don't really see them like spending in January to

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Speaker 4: And it's tough because there's a lot of bad teams,

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Speaker 1: So you're betting almost a yes.

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Speaker 6: No is Wolves in a relegation fight, and all four

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Speaker 1: All right, PJ, you're up.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go Brighton over fifty seven and a half.

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Speaker 6: They finished with sixty points last year and they were

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Speaker 1: So I'll take Anthony.

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Speaker 5: so we are all in agreement. I agree with all

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Speaker 5: They could sell Harry Kane, but then I'd expect some

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Speaker 3: The Hodgson Palace team here. I'm out. I'm so out

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Speaker 5: Crystal Palace may keep only say they may not. I

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Speaker 3: But if they were to lose.

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Speaker 5: ball progressors, their top chance creator and Alise, their top

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Speaker 5: in terms of bringing in players to replenish that and

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Speaker 5: I really don't think that's enough without a true goalscorer.

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Speaker 6: Right, that brings me back to the front of the line.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they're one of our favorite teams to get

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a team that we all were in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of my favorite picks are taking off

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Speaker 2: That's a great point out and I mean that was

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Speaker 4: Is Anthony, I know that Jesus injury isn't a great

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Speaker 3: Not at all. That's the thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but Troussard can, and Baligan might and Kai can

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Speaker 4: new midfielders that they have and the forwards they have,

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00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's the same defenders. Andy

440
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 4: Robertson's kind of out a position, you know, Virgil's older,

441
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 4: ma tips older. I like Knante, but you can ever

442
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 4: stay fit again, No Number six. It's just like, even

443
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 4: if things go right, I still expect an adjustment period.

444
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 4: And basically like where I'm coming out with Arsenal is

445
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 4: I agree with all the overperformance and all that stuff,

446
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 4: and I think I'm actually a little bit lower than

447
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 4: most people on their transfer window. It's just that the

448
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 4: point total is not that high. I mean, seventy seven

449
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 4: and a half isn't you know if it was eighty two,

450
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 4: I'd be under all the way. I'm like, I don't know,

451
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 4: but I just feel like they can just be better

452
00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 4: than the group and get to seventy eight Evan nine

453
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 4: and that's like a disappointing season if you're an Arsenal fan.

454
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 4: But I think that's very realistic and like they're pretty

455
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 4: safe to do that with their defense and with their

456
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 4: team and Liverpool again, they're you know, they have upside

457
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 4: obviously with klop and with their talent, but they're the

458
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 4: highest point total of the blob as you guys call it,

459
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 4: outside of City and Arsenal, who I think are clearly

460
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 4: number one and number two, And so for me that's

461
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 4: justin under like philosophically and under whereas like, I'm like,

462
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 4: they're competing with Man United, Newcastle, Chelsea Spurs, Phillip Brighton,

463
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 4: whoever you want to throw in. I'm like, I'll go

464
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 4: under on the highest and I'll go over on the lowest,

465
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 4: which is Brighton, which is already off the board.

466
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

467
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, yep, yeah, we were talking about that a lot yesterday.

468
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 6: I said, it's like if you if you watch horse racing,

469
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 6: you know the Kentucky Derby. The reason we love it

470
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 6: so much as it's the field is so wide, right,

471
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 6: and when you do that, it just adds to the

472
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,719
Speaker 6: chaos and the variants and these horses will start cannibalizing

473
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 6: one another and getting each other's way.

474
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Speaker 1: So that's that's.

475
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Speaker 6: My theory on why I don't think that any of

476
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 6: the teams being offered at short odds to win the

477
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 6: title are worth betting, and why I landed on Tottenham.

478
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 6: I mean, if you've thrown United and Tottenham spot on

479
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 6: the board, I would set me the same argument for Yeah, exactly,

480
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 6: for United.

481
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 4: Exactly, And that's same with me, right, So I to

482
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 4: go on on this, But like if United were the

483
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 4: highest of this group or Newcastle or highest in the group.

484
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Speaker 4: I would bet the exact same under like I would

485
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 4: have the exact same argument of just you know.

486
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's fair.

487
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 5: I agree, I would I would go if I had to,

488
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 5: I would probably do under on both.

489
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: But that's just my principle.

490
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, BJ and that brings us the.

491
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 3: Arsenals off the board for him off I had to

492
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: take them.

493
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: Knew I wasn't okay, And that's okay because my next

494
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: pick is going to be Newcastle over sixty seven and

495
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: a half points. You know, Newcastle's a team that we

496
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 2: really like to finish in the top four. Once again,

497
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 2: it's this point total is essentially saying, is that because

498
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 2: Newcastle isn't a Big six club, there's gonna be this

499
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: natural regression for them back towards the pack, right, But

500
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: I I know Michael Nynthon agree with me that we

501
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: don't really see it that way. You know, obviously Newcastle

502
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: has money now, so they went on the transfer market

503
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 2: and they went and got to Nali, they went and

504
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: got Harvey Barnes. They retold their squad while the rest

505
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: of the Big Six and other big clubs are spending

506
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: money to get better and Newcastle, I mean they finished

507
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: the second best expected gold diffrenchial in the Premier League

508
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: last season, Like they were incredibly impressive, and they do

509
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: this thing tactically that just makes them so difficult to

510
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: play against, where they can just beat you up so badly.

511
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: They're so physical if you try to build up against them,

512
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: they press you so intensely that they essentially force you

513
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: to play the ball along and get into a transition

514
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 2: end to antype battle with them, and they are just

515
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 2: so so good in those transitional opportunities, So it makes

516
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: them like very, very difficult to play against. Now the

517
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: thing about them is, and this is something we talked about,

518
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: is you know, towards the end of last season, when

519
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 2: you know a lot of teams didn't view them as

520
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 2: a Big six club, you know, they would come out

521
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: and they would press them, and they wouldn't, you know,

522
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: treat them like they would a city or an arsenal

523
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: and play a lot deeper. So now you're going to

524
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: see teams play more defensive, play more passive against Newcastle.

525
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: So they're going to have to start to break down

526
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 2: more low blocks than rather than getting those transitional opportunities.

527
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 2: But I mean this is a team that still was

528
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 2: a top five team by expected goals. You have another

529
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: year of Alexander Eshach who is a top five striker

530
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: in the Premier League. Callum Wilson, even in limited minutes,

531
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 2: had an unbelievable season from an x GIEZ perspective, and

532
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 2: they can play them both at the same time. So

533
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: and you know with the midfielders obviously Gemerish and Tanali,

534
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: I mean there's just so many pieces for this Newcastle

535
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: team that really make me believe that they're not going

536
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: to drop off. So sixty seven and a half only

537
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: being one point higher than Chelsea, I think it's crazy.

538
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: So I love Newcastle over sixty seven and a half.

539
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, we were talking about them, just I think they're

540
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,959
Speaker 6: at stable team and the ceiling is so high if

541
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 6: they're in a title race or something crazy that the

542
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 6: Saudi princes are just gonna be like, let's just buy everybody.

543
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: That's not a that's not an outside the rebel possibilities. Yeah,

544
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: like in Boppe, just hey, let's.

545
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 6: Just throw six point two billion at them to see

546
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 6: if we can steal a Champions League or a Premier

547
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 6: League title.

548
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 3: I like that I'm gonna go and Boppe start over

549
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 3: on the left wing.

550
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 6: I don't know.

551
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 3: I think it's debatable.

552
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: Oh of course, of course not. No, they have to play,

553
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 2: especially when we got shot and a golden boot race.

554
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 6: I mean, oh gosh, no, uh all right, I'll uh,

555
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take an under here. I've taken a couple overs,

556
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 6: so I'm gonna uh flip the script a little bit

557
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 6: and go under on Burnley at thirty nine and a half. Oh,

558
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 6: I don't think it's just gonna be as straightforward as

559
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 6: this number suggests.

560
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: For them. We talked about uh, you.

561
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 6: Know Fulham and the season that they had coming out

562
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 6: of the Championship when they just set the world on

563
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 6: fire down there.

564
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: Uh and and you know you.

565
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 6: Expect that an adjustment period a little bit, Like you know,

566
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 6: I think we all. I love Vincent Company for the

567
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 6: goal he scored to make sure that Liverpool didn't win

568
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 6: that title, and I love him just just generally as

569
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 6: a person. But like we're talking about a pretty significant

570
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 6: step up for this team. They're going to play a

571
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 6: style that if you're not expect to be a good

572
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 6: team and you're gonna come and try to like outplay

573
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 6: teams like Brighton or whoever put the ball on the carpet,

574
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 6: you can find yourself in some trouble. Thirty nine and

575
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 6: a half is telling you yes no on them being

576
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 6: in a relegation once again, and I just think that

577
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 6: they're going to be in one like this. This is

578
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 6: not a team that I think is just gonna cruise

579
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 6: a la Brentford a couple of years ago, again using

580
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 6: that example, and just feel safe. So I don't think

581
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 6: that they're they're like they're necessarily going down, but I

582
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 6: think that they're going to be in the thick of

583
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 6: it for for this entire season. That's why I like

584
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 6: the under. I think that Also, I haven't really seen

585
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 6: a championship team hyped like this before, which is funny

586
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 6: because Old Burnley was maybe the least typed team you know,

587
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 6: we've ever seen like there's a Premier League mainstay. So uh,

588
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 6: it's it's going to be an adjustment period, I think

589
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 6: for a lot of people when they when they come

590
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 6: back up. So I'll take that the under in Burnley

591
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 6: at thirty nine and a half.

592
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 5: Is anyone buying into the Nathan Teller breakout, I don't know.

593
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 4: He's not even there right, They they they need to

594
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 4: replace so many goals in XG and shots.

595
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 3: That's the thing for me.

596
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 5: Then the more I look into Burnley, the more I'm

597
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 5: kind of concerned about them. Like I came in to

598
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 5: be thinking like oh yeah, great underline numbers, and then

599
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 5: like Navin Tella, like oh Grady had wait a minute,

600
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 5: that was their whole team, and Jay Rodriguez had ten

601
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 5: goals in the.

602
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: Chap J Barnes.

603
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 3: J Barnes put in six.

604
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 5: Like I like the system, I like the manager. I

605
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 5: think the number is kind of right. I think they're

606
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 5: fifty fifty to be in that race. I think there's

607
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 5: a chance that teams fall below them. But then there's

608
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 5: also a that like we were looking at we had

609
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 5: this discussion last night too, like top promoted team their

610
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 5: minus two fifty.

611
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: That's crazy to me.

612
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 5: I don't think there's that big of a gap between

613
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 5: them and the rest of the you know, other two teams.

614
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: Behind them, So that is crazy.

615
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 6: Eat up that much of the market share on what

616
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 6: it's twelve basically twelve points. They're saying that they're better

617
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 6: than gluten, which is.

618
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: I think I'm taking I think I'm taking Luton plus twelve.

619
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, like market.

620
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I'm definitely taking plus twelve.

621
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: It's a little much.

622
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 6: And also there's this is another kind of manager that

623
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 6: wouldn't be surprised if he ends up, you know, if

624
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 6: a big spot opens up somewhere else in the league.

625
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: He gets his head turned.

626
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: So don't take just don't take deservee away from Brighton.

627
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 2: Anybody else can go.

628
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: Maybe that's Brighton's succession plan.

629
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, it could be the Derby goes to coach the

630
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 6: US men's national team or something.

631
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Europe.

632
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 5: This is if it starts getting a little tough. I'm

633
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 5: looking at the board and I'm like, oh, man.

634
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: I know what over you want to take.

635
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 6: You you could take them.

636
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm giving you my perm giving you permission with the hatters.

637
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 4: No, oh, I know he's talking about talking about his blues.

638
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: Oh my blues.

639
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're blues, baby.

640
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pass all my blues for now. I'm gonna take.

641
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna take Man United under seventy three

642
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 5: and a half.

643
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 2: Love it.

644
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 5: BJ's tractually required to slander United every year.

645
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 3: It's funny. I'm actually recording this from a friend's house.

646
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 5: Uh, and he's a big United fan And when I

647
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 5: told him I was coming up to record it, he said,

648
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 5: you're gonna slander United again with your anti United agenda.

649
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 5: And I said, well, I'm kind of agnostic about United,

650
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 5: but we've gotten to the point now where at seventy

651
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 5: three and a half, I'm sorry, like, on what earth

652
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 5: are they within three points two points of Liverpool and

653
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 5: Arsenal from last year. Then they've made some signings and

654
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 5: additions that I'm interested in that you know, Holland or Hoyland,

655
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 5: that's it, gonna be one of those names I'm struggling

656
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 5: with all year. But like he has such a small

657
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 5: track record and the Atalanta stuff, Like he scored some goals,

658
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 5: he had some decent expected goals underlying numbers, the shots

659
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 5: weren't great, So like can he put can he put

660
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 5: the numbers together in this United team in the center,

661
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 5: because if he can't, then they're kind of still have

662
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 5: the same problem where they had the fourth longest average

663
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 5: shot distance And it's really hard to maintain an elite

664
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 5: attack if you can't generate high quality shots and United

665
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 5: was not very good at it last year.

666
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: Rashford had like a breakout.

667
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 5: Finishing season and had that incredible run, but once he

668
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 5: slowed down into the finish, he only had three goals

669
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 5: in his last eleven league games. Once he slowed down,

670
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 5: they just weren't a lot of goals for this United

671
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 5: team to go around, and then they struggled outside of

672
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 5: a couple games against teams who had already quit, like

673
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 5: a shot like that Chelsea game. So I think that

674
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 5: United is probably better than last year. And I understand

675
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 5: they finished in the top four last year and would

676
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 5: have gone over this number, but keep in mind that

677
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 5: they overperformed to get to that number. So I think

678
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 5: even if United is better this year, they may end

679
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 5: up right around the same. I think the league behind

680
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 5: them is better. I'm I think o'nanna is an upgrade

681
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 5: over to Hea. But again, like this team kept a

682
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 5: ton of clean sheets last year, and I just don't

683
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 5: really think that's repeatable. I said this to a Lon

684
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 5: when I was on his show. They con seeded more

685
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 5: expected goals that totten them last year, so there is

686
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 5: a long way for this defense to come before they're

687
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 5: really in the level to be a consistently elite defense.

688
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 5: So expected goals allowed they were you know, pretty pretty

689
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 5: alarmingly mediocre.

690
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 4: Ye, So yeah, the other I just wanted to throw in,

691
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 4: like them being that high on the table sort of

692
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: required like a Chelsea absolute meltdown season and Spurs being

693
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 4: bad too, right, Like they they picked up eight points

694
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 4: off those two teams, So I think we're all kind

695
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 4: of thinking like it's more of a blob, right, that's

696
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 4: just less points for them available potentially.

697
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 5: I think the one thing that the kind of scares

698
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 5: me a little bit is that, like, because of these

699
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 5: mid table teams not spending money, you could see the

700
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 5: gap and it could be that the top teams, you know,

701
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 5: like a way to Palace, a way to Fulham, a

702
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 5: way to.

703
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: Wolves, just win them all.

704
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: They just might.

705
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 5: The top teams might just win a lot of these games, Yeah,

706
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 5: more than more than they normally would. Like, you're not

707
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 5: going to see that drop point at Wolves or the

708
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 5: drop points that Palace as much this year, and the

709
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 5: dregs are going to stay the dregs. You know, you

710
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 5: expect the top teams, you know, you'll slip up here

711
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 5: and there, but they're expected to win. If the mid

712
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 5: table gets hollowed out, does that mean that the top

713
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 5: like the bar to clear to get to the top

714
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 5: four is a little higher this year. I think there

715
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 5: is a possibility because you know, when the two in

716
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 5: the top seven eight teams play against each other, it's

717
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 5: always a war. But you know the nine to fourteen

718
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 5: being worse could lead to uh, some more openings for sure.

719
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: All Right, my next pick.

720
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 5: This team costs me more money in the spring than

721
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 5: any team like in the history of soccer, and it's

722
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 5: a shame because we've made so much money betting him

723
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 5: in the past. And it's aston Villa.

724
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: Oh I have to go.

725
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 5: I know I have to go under at the number

726
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 5: fifty eight and a half. I think it's just a

727
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 5: little high. Look, I understand the system. I respect the manager.

728
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 5: I actually watched them live in the friendly against Newcastle

729
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago.

730
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 3: In Philly and like this high line.

731
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 5: But they're playing given their personnel. It's the kind of

732
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 5: thing that as teams get more used to seeing it,

733
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 5: I think you're gonna see more exposed back line and

734
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 5: Emmy Martinez. First of all, they ran really good defensively

735
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 5: in the second half of the season. Secondly, Emmy Martinez

736
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 5: had an awesome shot shot stopping second half of the

737
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 5: season once Emery came in. This was not a good

738
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 5: defense relatively last season. And now pow Torres is a

739
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 5: really good addition, and I think that you know, underrated addition.

740
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 3: But this Villa defense.

741
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 5: Expected goal difference in the second half of the season,

742
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 5: so post World Cup per understat they had a plus

743
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 5: one for the entire second half twenty matches.

744
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: So this was not a team.

745
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 5: That was putting up absurd numbers or like really took

746
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 5: a huge leap, Like you could see that the tactics

747
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 5: and the plan was better, but they had a plus

748
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 5: eleven actual goal difference because they overformed.

749
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 3: It both ends of the pitch and all in all.

750
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 5: They had you know, thirty expected points in the second

751
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 5: half of the season, finished with fifty four point three.

752
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 5: How much better can they get? So at fifty eight

753
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 5: and a half, I think this late in the draft,

754
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 5: it's a steal for me. And I think that they

755
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 5: aren't really that close to the top top seven or eight.

756
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 5: Now one of them could fall out, like could you

757
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 5: just have a shit year, and they could sneak into

758
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 5: the seventh or eighth, but I really don't think with

759
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 5: Europe now too, that they have the depth and the

760
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 5: ability to stay in that level. So I do think

761
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 5: there is some regression coming for Villa, and I think

762
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 5: they're probably a top half team by default, but that

763
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 5: they're not going to get to fifty eight and a half.

764
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 6: One.

765
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: One thing I want to add to that, and the

766
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: TIFO guys did a fantastic job breaking this down, is

767
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: that you know about Power Torres is an unbelievable defender

768
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 2: or underviewable in terms of his ball progression forward and

769
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: he's like perfect because he's obviously been under Uniamori. He's

770
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: not really that great of a physical defender defending the box,

771
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: and his positioning as a left center back would mean

772
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: that Tyrone Mings would essentially have to go off the

773
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: pitch because Tyron Mings has never played right center back

774
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: before and Tyron Mings is one of the best physical

775
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: defenders in the airs, especially off of set pieces. So

776
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: when they have to place teams like, for example, a

777
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: Brentford or a Tottenham or a Bournemouth, these teams that

778
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: are physical and good on set pieces like power Torres

779
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: was it like I think the thirtieth percentile for aeroal

780
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 2: dual win percentage among Europe's top five leagues like that,

781
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: that's not going to work really, So.

782
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 6: What was what?

783
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it works in Spain, But what was interesting? I

784
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: saw on their last UH friendly, UNA Emory's never played

785
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: a back three before like ever, so it's like it's

786
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: really weird. Asked Villa to switch that he actually tried it,

787
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 2: Like he played Tyro Mings as the center center back,

788
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: he played Palatroiss on the left, and then he played

789
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: Constant on the right, So essentially that's what he's gonna

790
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: have to do and then play two wing backs and

791
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: he's gonna play probably Ali Watkins and Diabi up top,

792
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: so that could also work. But it's a whole new

793
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 2: system for Uniamory for him to implement like seven days

794
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: before the season starts, so I don't know. Yeah, I

795
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: agree with you, like there's gonna be some natural aggression

796
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: for them, obviously playing with the Europa Conference league, so

797
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: we'll see. But yeah, they draft Ski overperformed and they're

798
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: probably going under.

799
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 5: And I love Chidabi, but I'm not sure that it's

800
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 5: necessarily the best of fits for this team, to be honest.

801
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: And I mean, he's better than Liam Bailey at right wing,

802
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: so you can like say that that's an upgrade. But yeah,

803
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

804
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 5: I mean em Buendia had a Dynamo showing that day

805
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 5: that I the only preseason that I've watched because I

806
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 5: don't really tune in too much for preseason because I

807
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 5: think it just kind of biases people. But Buendia, if

808
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 5: he's as good as he was that day, then maybe

809
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 5: I'm wrong. But this attack feels sounds like biased to me. Yeah,

810
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 5: this attack, this attack feels like like they're they're so

811
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 5: religned on getting Watkins in like once a game and

812
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 5: he better score it and if they don't, then they're

813
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 5: just not that good.

814
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 4: Villa, They're billion right now through at the back preseason.

815
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 6: There you go, you're bias I work. You know what's

816
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 6: so frustrating I had when we went into our podcast

817
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 6: last night, I was thinking about Yeah, Villa and how

818
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 6: what I wanted to say about them, and I said,

819
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 6: who I am? Or he wins every tournament he's ever entered.

820
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 6: So I was looking at their EFL Cup odds and

821
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 6: their FA Cup odds and they're hilariously short. They're like

822
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 6: twenty to one to win the FA Cup in fourteen

823
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 6: or sixteen to want to win the EFL Cup.

824
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, knocked out, so frustrated.

825
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 3: What about the Conference League?

826
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: I know, but what are they going to be in

827
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: the conference? They're probably be the favorites, the favorite, yeah,

828
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: the worst, So come on, screw Villa.

829
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 5: I have not looked at the Conference league field too

830
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 5: extensively in my preseason prep, but I'm waiting for the draw.

831
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: To come out.

832
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 6: The Villa is like, is the anti of the team

833
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 6: I'm about to go over on here? Which is the

834
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 6: team that has made made me the most money probably

835
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 6: the past three seasons in the Premier League.

836
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: Not just kidding Brentford.

837
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 4: I wanted this, but I didn't think there's the way

838
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 4: I'd get it.

839
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 6: It's a fun conversation. I have forty five and a half.

840
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 6: They were fifty nine last season, I believe, so they

841
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 6: were forty six the season before, so they went over

842
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 6: this total in their two years in the Premier League

843
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 6: under Thomas Frank And of course the elephant in the

844
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 6: room is that Ivan Tony was behaving badly by betting

845
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 6: on soccer matches when he's a professional soccer player, so

846
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 6: he won't be playing for them, and he's incredibly important.

847
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 6: But I trust the manager and I trust the process

848
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 6: and I trust this team to just be good enough

849
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 6: to be hard to beat the most part, when you

850
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 6: look at the cohort of teams below them, I expect

851
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 6: them to just take care of business against a lot

852
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 6: of very flawed teams. Anthony brought up west Ham same

853
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 6: same point total basically as Brentford. Even without Tony, I

854
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 6: would take Brentford versus over west Ham in a in

855
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 6: a head to head. So just on that logic alone,

856
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 6: I think the Bees are fine when we get towards

857
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 6: this this portion of the of the draft, and I'm

858
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 6: excited to see how they're priced on a game to

859
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 6: game basis, because you know, the market never really came

860
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 6: around on them last year. Like we every week on

861
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 6: Wonder Goal, what will we say, when is the market

862
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 6: going to respect this team? When is it going to

863
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 6: respect this team now that they're talismatic strikers off the roster.

864
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: Question is going to be when is it going to

865
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: respect them? And maybe they don't.

866
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 6: They won't end up deserving it without him, But is

867
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 6: is it going to be that much of a drop

868
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 6: off without him? I don't think so. I think they'd

869
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 6: be good enough to get over here, so I'll stick

870
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 6: with the Bees.

871
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: I mean, Michael, Matchweek one is the most Brentford spot

872
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: of all time. A two plus two twenty underdog against

873
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: at home against Tottenham.

874
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: Like that's just that's about.

875
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: It's just it's a it's the classic and it's just

876
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: gonna be perfect. It's gonna beautiful. They're gonna score off

877
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: two set pieces. And by the way, and I don't know,

878
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, again, Alan, I know nothing about fantasy,

879
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: but you know, Brentford are no dummies. They went out

880
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: and got Kevin Shatay from Freiburg, who's like a six

881
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: foot striker who plays like incredibly well in the air

882
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: and is really really dangerous on set pieces. He's not

883
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: Ivan Tony, but he might help smooth over the drop

884
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: off essentially from what Brentford is.

885
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 6: I mean, they knew this was coming. Like it's it's

886
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 6: the same question with like Potter and Deserve. You really

887
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 6: we knew Potter was gonna leave at some point, and

888
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 6: Brighton was obviously gonna have a plan in place. And Brentford,

889
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 6: I mean, if this was everden they they maybe they

890
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 6: they would just be like, oh god, who could have

891
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 6: saw that coming? You know, all the tabloid stories for

892
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 6: six months about this and now we've got.

893
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: To react to that.

894
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 6: But these are these are smart teams that would have

895
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 6: had a plan in play. So yeah, Wisa is the

896
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 6: guy in fantasy. I mean they buy him from Lore

897
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 6: and you know after twenty twenty season, anticipating probably not

898
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 6: a Tony suspension, but Tony getting.

899
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 1: Bought by a big team probably.

900
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 4: And he's just been coming off the bench scoring goals

901
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: at a really good rate. He puts up good x

902
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 4: G and and and shots when he starts, and he's

903
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 4: just going to be good.

904
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I'm all any anytime goalscorer. Yeah, absolutely No.

905
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 3: I like Wesa too.

906
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 5: I think that people forget he played a lot last year.

907
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 5: Tony missed a bunch of time too.

908
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

909
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 5: So, like, I think the thing of the Renfort is

910
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 5: it's not about the man, it's about the system. And

911
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 5: I think the system is proved right. They do everything

912
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 5: else well to kind of nullify the fact that, like,

913
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 5: and I think this is the reason the market is

914
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 5: consistently undervalued them. If you look at that squad, you're

915
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 5: not like, oh boy, look at all the talent on

916
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 5: Brentford outside of Tony and now it's like, well, you know,

917
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 5: oh boy, there's no talent, but that's.

918
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 3: Never really been the case.

919
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 5: They just played better than their talent and they work

920
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 5: around it and I perform their numbers. So I think

921
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 5: that Brentford over is always a good bet.

922
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, bj all right.

923
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 2: I could go one of two ways here. I could

924
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: crap all over Anthony's boy, but I'm not going to

925
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: do that here because we're just before the season, so.

926
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 6: Insteads managing, isn't he managing a Saudi Arabian team with

927
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 6: Jordan Henderson?

928
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: I know that, boy.

929
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 5: I have too many people, you know, I hate for

930
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 5: like half the league.

931
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: So you're not going to crap all over you know

932
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: right now, I won't do it to you. I'm gonna

933
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: go Sheffield United over thirty one and a half points.

934
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: I think this is dangerously low for a team that

935
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: was literally had the exact same expected goal differential as

936
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: Burnley did in the Championship. But you heard nothing about them,

937
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: and they play a system that can really work similar

938
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: to the Brentford mold. While they play out of a

939
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: three to five to two, they play incredibly direct. They

940
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: don't need a lot of possession and they can also

941
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: come out and press you really intensely, I mean outside.

942
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: They had the second most high turnovers in the championship

943
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: last season. And also what I found I was digging

944
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: into them, they only allowed nine expected goals over a

945
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: forty six match season off a set pieces like that

946
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: is incredibly good. Like they're very, very compact and good defensively.

947
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: They have good center backs. They still have Sanderberge there,

948
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: who's a great, great defensive midfielder in the middle of

949
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: the pitch. And they just went out and got Austin

950
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: Trusty from He's an American who was just impressed at

951
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 2: last season and he's going to be a nice replacement

952
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: in there in the center of the pitch. The problem

953
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: is they just sell and die to Marseille, who was

954
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: their best attacking player. Now that's a problem, and I

955
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 2: get it, But for a team that is going to

956
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 2: be this solid defensively in the blob of the bottom

957
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: of the table, like, I don't think there's really essentially

958
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: a seven or eight point gap between them or Burnley,

959
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 2: or a ten point gap between them and Fulham. So

960
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: you know, over thirty and you get to thirty two points,

961
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's really not asking a ton from

962
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: them just to get results against the blob. So like

963
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: I like the Blades over thirty one and a half.

964
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: It makes sense.

965
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 5: No, I would certainly, I mean it would be that

966
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 5: or nothing. I couldn't take it under there?

967
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, how bad can they be?

968
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

969
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 4: They did sign a striker. I just know nothing about it.

970
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 4: Domitri Yeah what the Benny don Or.

971
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 2: FC Sheriff legend a Domitriray Champions League.

972
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, he scored twelve goals in Sweden last year. It's

973
00:45:59,320 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: all you need to know.

974
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 4: I mean, basically, his numbers are good. He's half an

975
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 4: xt G for ninety two and a half shots for ninety.

976
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: But you know it's in Sweden. Take off what fifty something?

977
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: Take the production?

978
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 4: All right?

979
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: Alon? Is it me? Now?

980
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 6: I think you you swing us back your last home

981
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 6: stretch here?

982
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: What the hell do I even do with this? So?

983
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 4: What's left of its city? Chelsea Everton, three best teams

984
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 4: in the league Forrest and Lowton Yep, that's right, Yeah,

985
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 4: I guess I'll go Chelsea under m. I could see

986
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 4: them going over, but I just think more times than

987
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 4: not they go under again. It's just I'm saying the

988
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 4: same thing over and over. But I just don't expect

989
00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: any consistency. There's so much change over and Cuckoo's already

990
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 4: hurt new manager, tons of new players. You know, reech

991
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 4: James will be hurt in a week. I'm sure Chill

992
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 4: Well be hurt in two weeks. I'm sure social.

993
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 6: Path for an owner, Yes, I can't get kind of

994
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 6: sociopath in their last sociopath owner.

995
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 2: A midfielder on the roster.

996
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, they can't get Cato over the line, which would

997
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 4: have been incredible if it was him and Enzo, but

998
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 4: it's not. Yeah, I don't know, just not not gonna believe.

999
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: You know.

1000
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 4: I think they'll drop enough points in stupid ways probably

1001
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 4: then my good way.

1002
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: To sum them up.

1003
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh man, I really don't want to mess with

1004
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: these teams at the bottom. I guess I'll go Everton

1005
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 4: over there, we go Everton over baby.

1006
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: There it is.

1007
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 4: I think the as far as the blob goes, they're

1008
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 4: more towards the middle of it than the bottom of it.

1009
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 4: Maybe fifteen fourteen. I think they'll consolidate a little that

1010
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 4: I liked Dies, I like Dan Jumma a bit, and

1011
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: I think they'll just be solid and I think they're better,

1012
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 4: then you can easily say I think they're better than

1013
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 4: like five ish teams at least. And it doesn't take

1014
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 4: that much to get forty one points. I mean you

1015
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 4: could get You can finish fifteenth on forty one points.

1016
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 4: So yeah, give me the over Everton.

1017
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: Let's go.

1018
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 2: I spent like the.

1019
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 6: Past two weeks thinking about how like I'm ready to

1020
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 6: relegate Everarden already.

1021
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: And.

1022
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 6: But I'm always ready to do that, so it doesn't matter.

1023
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 6: But I had a conversation with these two gents last night,

1024
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 6: and they maybe feel a little bit better because I

1025
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 6: think that this team, if if you look at like there,

1026
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 6: we know what their their problem is going to be.

1027
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 6: It's that they're not going to score. Because I'm gonna

1028
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 6: Colvert Lewin despite being forty to one to win the

1029
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 6: Golden Boot.

1030
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean.

1031
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 6: Four thousand one, he should be forty to one to

1032
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 6: go over fifteen games played or fifteen he's played like

1033
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 6: this is uh. I think the way that EVERYTT is

1034
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 6: kind of approaching the season is just as if Dominic

1035
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 6: Covert Lewin isn't on the team, and if he sometimes

1036
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 6: he just might show up as like a testimonial player.

1037
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: Or something like the celebrity goal. Yeah, exactly here, Look

1038
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: who's here today.

1039
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 4: It's like it's the pok at a frat house, shows

1040
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:31,959
Speaker 4: up celebrity shot.

1041
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 6: But I think that this team is has the right

1042
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 6: manager and then the right foundation to win one nil

1043
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 6: or two one games when they need to. Uh, they've

1044
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 6: got a great goalkeeper. I don't think because of how

1045
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 6: much of a mess they were unless you I don't realize.

1046
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 6: I don't think people just realized how good Pickford was

1047
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 6: lest year. If it just kind of became normal watching

1048
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 6: an Everden match and be like, oh my god, he

1049
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 6: just he'd probably just saved three clear cut chances in

1050
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 6: this game that they they they ended up like wrestling

1051
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 6: control of the game maybe away and winning like one nil,

1052
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 6: and be like they should have been down three nothing

1053
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 6: at halftime. And then they just have like a responsible

1054
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 6: enough center back and midfield, uh kind of foundation with

1055
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 6: with Tarkowski and uh, branth White should be good, Keen godfree,

1056
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 6: Like there's just enough there and I think they need

1057
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 6: another center back. I think Ashley Young too was like

1058
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 6: kind of like the perfect fit for them in a

1059
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 6: weird way. He might they might be the only team

1060
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 6: that he made sense for in the entire Premier League,

1061
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 6: but he made so much sense for them, and then

1062
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 6: it was like Ghana Onana and Garner in the middle.

1063
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 6: I think, I just think that their ceiling is high

1064
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 6: on their floor is high enough.

1065
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 1: With with dits just say that I would have I would.

1066
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 6: Have went over to I just didn't want to take

1067
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 6: them because I don't want to jinx them, so I'll

1068
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 6: be with you.

1069
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 4: And then they also have a real home field advantage,

1070
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 4: which is and always a given. But I just feel

1071
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 4: like against the bottom blob at home with Dice.

1072
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: Like I expect a lot of clean cheese.

1073
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 4: I expect a lot of points there, and I can't

1074
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 4: really say the same for a bunch of the teams

1075
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 4: there at the bottom.

1076
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1077
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 6: I mean it was interesting because you would watch like

1078
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 6: an Everdon must win match at like ten am on

1079
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 6: a Saturday morning at Goodison and then maybe Southampton played

1080
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 6: at twelve thirty later that day and be like, there's

1081
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 6: a there's just a massive difference between the two, the

1082
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 6: two like home fields. Yeah, so that's actually a good

1083
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 6: point as well.

1084
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 1: BJ. Did you want to say something there?

1085
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I love that we've basically implanted

1086
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 2: the word blob and your brain now out now yeah,

1087
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: stuck in your head and a lot.

1088
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: Easier than me being like the bottom nine ish like

1089
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: every single time, just like it's a blob.

1090
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, wallh will appreciate that.

1091
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: I though, Yeah, absolutely, I mean I'm up next right

1092
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: you are?

1093
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 6: And you also can't can can take everything over forty

1094
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 6: and a half points.

1095
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: No, I'm going to take a team that might even

1096
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: past Everton this season. I'm gonna Golutontown over twenty nine

1097
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: and a half points. I think Man City's like the

1098
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: least interesting team from a betting perspective in the entire market.

1099
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 2: Like I'm writing about them for the preview that we're doing,

1100
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 2: and I'm like having writer's block and like what to

1101
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: write about them other than like they're good, who cares?

1102
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: But Loutontown's very interesting because and Anthony pointed this out

1103
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 2: on our preview pod last night, is like they have

1104
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 2: the lowest expectations of anybody since I think Huddersfield coming

1105
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: up to the Premier League when they had the negative

1106
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 2: expected gold differential and Lutontown, though I was I was

1107
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 2: studying them last night or yesterday. They play a very

1108
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: unique style that I think can lead to some high

1109
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 2: variants and they can pop a couple times as an

1110
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 2: underdog where they like they led the Championship with four

1111
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty seven high turnovers, that was sixty one

1112
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: more than Sheffield United. Like they and somebody described them

1113
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: as they don't press, they chase the ball, like they

1114
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: just are all over the pitch everywhere. It seems like

1115
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 2: it's like not working, but also at the same time,

1116
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: like they create a lot of chances in transition, like

1117
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 2: they have good structure at the back. I mean they

1118
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 2: only allowed point nine to seven xg per ninety in

1119
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: the Championship, Like if you go back to last season,

1120
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: that was better than what Bournemouth did, that was better

1121
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 2: than what Nottingham Forest did in the Championship. So and

1122
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: I get it, like the talent is so much further

1123
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: down that even Sheffield United is right now, you know,

1124
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: if you look at transfer market dot Com, I think

1125
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 2: their total squad value is sixty million. I think that's

1126
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 2: the lowest I've ever seen of a team coming up

1127
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: to the Premier League since Huddersfield. But I think they

1128
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: do have a distinct style that can actually work for

1129
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: a brief period of time in the Premier League now

1130
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: and then you have to look at it, like we

1131
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 2: already Ben talked about against the Blob. Are they really

1132
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: really twelve points worse than Fulham? Are they really ten

1133
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 2: points worse than Wolves?

1134
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: Is?

1135
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: Right at their current state right now? I mean talent wise,

1136
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: you'd say yes, But I mean Rob Edwards did a

1137
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: fantastic job taking over from Nathan Jones and pushing them

1138
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: forward to get to the Premier Like I understand that

1139
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 2: unknlying metrics aren't quite what Sheffield United or Burnley was,

1140
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: but this is such a low bar to clear, like

1141
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 2: unless they finish essentially in like the very bottom of

1142
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: the table, they should clear thirty points. So I actually

1143
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: I'm more and more read about Lowton. I'm liking them

1144
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: more and more just because that bar is I mean,

1145
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: their minus three hundred to be relegated, like against the Blob,

1146
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 2: it's an insane price against the Blob. So over twenty

1147
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: nine and a half I think is you know, the

1148
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 2: bars is super super low for this team. But I'm

1149
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: starting to like them more and more by the day.

1150
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 3: Hudtersfield stayed up.

1151
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 5: The first year we did only had a minus point

1152
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 5: four extra difference per ninety. They couldn't score, but they

1153
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 5: also defend it enough to stay up.

1154
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 3: And then the second.

1155
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 5: Season, but I'm talking about the really rough but like

1156
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 5: you know, you can magic for a year.

1157
00:54:58,440 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: Like we had this conversation last year.

1158
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 5: We were all saying born with stinks, no chance dead,

1159
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 5: why even play it?

1160
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: Just just take take the relegation. They stayed up relatively

1161
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 3: comfortably in the end.

1162
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 5: Like it just there's so much variance in predicting these

1163
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 5: teams coming out from the championship play styles and actual talent.

1164
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 3: How much do they lose?

1165
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 5: I mean Newton didn't lose as much as Sheffield or

1166
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 5: were Burnley in a way.

1167
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 2: No, they don't think they lost anybody, did they.

1168
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 3: So they're in theory.

1169
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 5: It's a good purchase continuity twenty nine and a half.

1170
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: Man, it's crazy.

1171
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 6: I mean even with like just low'ing like a twelve

1172
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 6: point twelve point like bump for just having a chip

1173
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 6: on your shoulder, like first Premier season.

1174
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 2: And honestly kind of first home game vantage too.

1175
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to the first game at home.

1176
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 3: I know they're at Bright.

1177
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: Against Burnley apparently.

1178
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was looking at today that's when they're going

1179
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 4: to be catching a half goal.

1180
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 2: The live score said that match was postponed.

1181
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if I saw that too.

1182
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 2: I don't know it is ready.

1183
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 4: It is postponed, I know, because that's a fantasy type

1184
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 4: of thing.

1185
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 3: That stadium isn't ready yet.

1186
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1187
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: So you gotta be kidding, all right.

1188
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: Maybe they had to make upgrades to like meet Premier

1189
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 2: League standards.

1190
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to get the ten K right, Yeah.

1191
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 2: So I don't know, but hey, they could definitely, I

1192
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: mean they could finish they could literally finish in seventeen

1193
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 2: or they could easily.

1194
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 3: Be relegated place.

1195
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, finish their nineteenth then, and they could they could

1196
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 5: finish dead last and clear.

1197
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, you just got to get points against the blob,

1198
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 6: that's all. But I do think that that that home

1199
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 6: field actually does matter for a team like this one,

1200
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 6: Like you're gonna ask Kevin de Bruyne to go to

1201
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 6: that stadium like in those kind of players Like it's

1202
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 6: it's almost a little bit like the Arizona Coyotes in

1203
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 6: the NHL. And we talked about how that Mullet Arena,

1204
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 6: the college rank that they're playing in is it's going

1205
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 6: to be a factor, and it was.

1206
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 1: They were really good at home.

1207
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 6: They were great bed at home, like plus two hundred

1208
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 6: every every home game in the NHL, and they almost

1209
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 6: for five hundred at home. Like I think that stuff

1210
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 6: matters to professional athletes who can just like walk into

1211
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 6: a stadium like that and be like where am I?

1212
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: Like?

1213
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 2: What could be? Lowton could be like literally the most

1214
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: profitable team on the Moundy line this season if they

1215
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: just pop a couple times at thirteen or fourteen to one,

1216
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 2: like they could, they could.

1217
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:18,959
Speaker 1: Do it.

1218
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 4: Every single game with four home Wolves game every week.

1219
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 5: We're going to have this pot and Michael's going to say, well,

1220
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 5: you know, it's very difficult to go to Luton because.

1221
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 6: I try to the Mullet Arena, the Bullet Arena of England.

1222
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 6: I went when I went to the World Darts Championship

1223
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 6: last year. So Leyton Orient played Sutton United at Leyton

1224
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 6: Orient's on ground and you know, I think that seats

1225
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 6: like eight thousand and imagining that it was snow everywhere

1226
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 6: that that stretch and just just imagining uh jerk and

1227
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 6: klop going there, Like what would he complain? He would

1228
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 6: complain about the entire thing. He probably try to get

1229
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 6: the game moved or something, but we go play this

1230
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 6: in riot or something.

1231
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: All right?

1232
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 4: That the practice facility on half of these like top takes,

1233
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 4: it's probably the same size as the thing dude I saw.

1234
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: I saw a video from inside a Luton Town's like

1235
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: weightlifting thing. It looks like they're literally like in a

1236
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: high school like gym or or whatever it is. It's

1237
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 2: like they're like a like a that's a broken down warehouse.

1238
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: We need that grid.

1239
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: That's right, it is grid, true grit.

1240
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 6: I'll go with the opposite of them on an under

1241
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 6: that's City eighty six and a half.

1242
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: That leaves.

1243
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 6: If you were to ask me before who would be

1244
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 6: the last pick in the draft, I probably would have

1245
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 6: said it would go down between City and Luton Town.

1246
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 6: And usually just the extremes are kind of end up

1247
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 6: being the last of these kind of things, and so

1248
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 6: it's close. But City under they got to eighty nine

1249
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 6: points last year, which it feels low considering just how

1250
00:58:55,560 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 6: good they were. They went on that insane thirty match

1251
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 6: on Beaten Streak or something like that after the New year,

1252
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 6: after they lost the top was it they lose a

1253
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 6: Tottenham for two or something or they beat Yeah, Yeah,

1254
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 6: and then they beat Yeah and it was they weren't

1255
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 6: giving up any goals. And just think about how good

1256
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 6: they were during that stretch. It ended up being like

1257
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 6: twenty six matches unbeaten and they still only got to

1258
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 6: eighty nine points. That just tells you how hard it

1259
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 6: is to get to that total. And I think everybody is.

1260
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 6: And maybe it's a cliche to assume it that they'll

1261
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 6: come out of the gates a little slowly as.

1262
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: They get off the beach, but it can't.

1263
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 6: I can't take an over on this team at eighty

1264
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 6: six and head points with just how good the chasing

1265
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 6: pack now is and how deep it is. It's not

1266
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 6: they're not just fending off Liverpool. They're not just fending

1267
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 6: off Arsenal. They're now fending off, you know, a true

1268
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 6: blob of seven other teams. Plus you know, if if

1269
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 6: Neil Malpike put has his scoring boots on, you never

1270
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 6: know what whateverton ceiling's like. So you might Daniel Yeah.

1271
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: For golden Bop by.

1272
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: The way five. I mean I would take that over

1273
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: Calvert Lewin at forty to one a million literally every time.

1274
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 5: It's funny though there's one team I didn't want and

1275
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 5: now I'm stuck with them.

1276
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's because you you still don't believe in

1277
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 6: the Steve Cooper experience even though he was.

1278
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: He showed us that.

1279
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 2: I literally don't have one note for this team think,

1280
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: I literally don't know what to write.

1281
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 4: About them before for us that the one thing for

1282
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 4: man City though in terms of you know, blobness, is

1283
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 4: like that, who are they losing to in the bottom ten,

1284
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,479
Speaker 4: Like they're just gonna there's always one but.

1285
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, loose loose like the loose like Brentford or who

1286
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 6: they're gonna like that loose to so much stupid right

1287
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 6: before before an international break.

1288
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: But like they're picking up three points almost every other time,

1289
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: like in at a consistent level though, like you know,

1290
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: only they did two years in a row.

1291
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 6: That ever didn't tell them to draw it once there

1292
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 6: you go.

1293
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, if the mid tables truly hollowed out, I think

1294
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 5: City is one of the teams that like.

1295
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: They just they just hoover. Yeah, Renford did the double

1296
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: against them last year. Yeah, incredible stuff. Up the bees,

1297
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: up the bees.

1298
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 5: It's a good point though, like it's some of the

1299
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 5: bottom half team that will probably take three or four

1300
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 5: off them.

1301
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1302
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, but now that we so that was eighty six

1303
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 6: and a half points. I'll take the UNDERWND City Forrest

1304
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 6: that leads us with you Anthony and Forrest and they're

1305
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 6: at at the moment thirty six and a half points.

1306
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 6: I kind of don't remember anything about them even last year,

1307
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 6: Like I feel like like like they're not real, which

1308
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 6: is we yes, it's not real. They felt not real

1309
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 6: going into the season because of the absolute insanity with

1310
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Speaker 6: the transfer market, like they thought they were a Saudi

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Speaker 6: League team in the transfer market and then now then

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Speaker 6: they played and I don't feel like there was any

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Speaker 6: clear pattern to them at all. And I think actually

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Speaker 6: the ghost to my point about Steve Cooper's like that

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Speaker 6: he was able to make that mess and keep them up.

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Speaker 6: They played did they played almost like three quarters of

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Speaker 6: the season without a shirt sponsor, Like, yeah.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? But they're still up? And uh, now

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Speaker 1: you go, I will Yeah. He ended the season just

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Speaker 1: every game.

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Speaker 3: Are we are we on?

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Speaker 5: Like the Anthony Iloga train here? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Seems good.

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01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 3: I'm kind of tempted by it.

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Speaker 2: Is he gonna play over?

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Speaker 1: Killer was their goalie?

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Speaker 3: I mean anybody they signed? Yeah, they actually, yeah, I'm gonna.

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01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go.

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01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 5: You know what, I've bet four on, I've given out,

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Speaker 5: I've taken four under so far.

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01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 3: Thirty six and a half.

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Speaker 5: They kind of did find an eleven that worked by

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Speaker 5: the end of last season.

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Speaker 3: To be okay. Yeah, they add alonga maybe.

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Speaker 1: Are they going to stay? Yeah, And I'm going to.

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Speaker 5: Say that, given the circumstances everybody around them, I'm going

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Speaker 5: over thirty six and a half.

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Speaker 3: I have not a lot of conviction.

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01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 5: I'm not recommending you out and bet this wager because

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01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 5: I think it's pretty close to right.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, thirty six and a half, I like tywo,

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Speaker 3: I'm in. Yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 5: They had a lot of guys leave, which probably could

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01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 5: be better than not. But yeah, I mean, I'm tempted

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01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 5: enough that I'm gonna. I'm gonna hop in on the

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Speaker 5: train and back Cooper, which I will immediately regret when

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Speaker 5: he when they start poorly. But yeah, and the home

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01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 5: field certainly mattered for them. You know, it's an above

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01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 5: average home field. They were competitive and actually got a

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Speaker 5: lot of points at home. They didn't do shit on

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Speaker 5: the road, so they're able to replicate that. They go

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Speaker 5: over this maybe even still go down.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 5: You know, the way we're talking about this league, it

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Speaker 5: feels like thirty six and a half. If you're over that,

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01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 5: you're probably safe this year.

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01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 3: But we will see I'm going over.

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01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. They also might get the best keeper in the

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01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: world Matt Turner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true right now.

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Speaker 3: That would be a big shot, stopping is King.

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01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Ah, there you have it.

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01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 6: I think we ended up with a pretty much even

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01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 6: split on overs and unders here a lot we thank you.

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01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 6: Tell the good folks who listen to Wonder Goal a

1366
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 6: little bit about FML FPL, what you and Walsh have

1367
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 6: going on over there, and where they can follow you

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01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 6: all that jazz.

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01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you play a Fantasy Premier League FL.

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Speaker 1: That's what we talked about.

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01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 4: We're just you know, being obsessed with it for like

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01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 4: eight years, pod multiple times a week usually, and you know,

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01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 4: get in there and we're more fun than a lot

1374
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 4: of the other ones who take it way too seriously.

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01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 4: So we're just trying to have some fun and pick

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01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 4: some guys and get some points.

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01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 6: And I'm sure I said this last year when we

1378
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 6: did this episode, but we should have you back on,

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01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 6: especially because you know, every now and then be Jair

1380
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 6: or I have to hop off the podcast for an

1381
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 6: episode or two to be dads, and Anthony has to

1382
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 6: to be eighteen years old and rich Rich rich Off

1383
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 6: of Morocco money. So find maybe maybe we'll hear more

1384
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 6: from you and you can you can join us for

1385
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 6: for one of our world famous underdog parlais that.

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01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 5: That always hit who hits the guy who's the Pedro?

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01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 5: This year, like everybody in the world was like, you

1388
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 5: gotta have Pedro?

1389
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 4: Who's this year's Like, I mean it might be Booma Booma,

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01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 4: I mean, because he's got a lot of the things

1391
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 4: you want. He's on pens, takescept pieces. Brentford are pretty good.

1392
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 4: He's pretty cheap. But he's also like just really bad

1393
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 4: at finishing and he just loves to hit the bar

1394
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 4: and he might just finish like three goals and maybe

1395
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 4: they just don't get a penalty because they're Brentford and

1396
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 4: they have two attackers and you know, so he could

1397
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 4: definitely be obad and he's really highly armed.

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01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 2: Here's another question, is is there literally anybody on Wolves

1399
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: that you want from from.

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01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: A fantasy not even a little tiny bit.

1401
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I have a friend who's then I have

1402
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 4: a friend who's a wolfsan and we were ripping into

1403
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 4: wolves just like skip, like no one there.

1404
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: And he was like our defense is good and like

1405
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, we're still.

1406
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 4: Gonna be And I was just like, dude, give me

1407
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 4: a give me a blanking break with this team, Like

1408
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 4: they're not even that cheap, like their keepers five, Like

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01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 4: there's just nothing there.

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01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: There's really nothing there.

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01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 2: Last question, how insanely expensive is Holland this year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he tied the record for most expensive

1413
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 4: at fourteen million, which, yeah, if you subtract you know,

1414
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 4: like the bench guys and whatnot, is a you know,

1415
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, almost twenty percent of your budget, like

1416
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 4: seventeen percent of your budget or something right there.

1417
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 3: And you're still loaning.

1418
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 4: Him, right, you kind of gotta I mean to start

1419
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 4: to start the season. Like right now, he's eighty six

1420
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 4: point six percent, I know. So if he's going on

1421
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 4: him and they're going to Burnley game week one and

1422
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 4: he just hat tricks, I mean you're just to season.

1423
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you get subducted by aliens all of a sudden,

1424
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 6: you're right, Yeah, you've wiped out such a huge.

1425
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 4: A lot of times what happens with these guys who

1426
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 4: come in at fourteen is like the sooner, like the

1427
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 4: quicker you are to hop off of them might make

1428
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 4: the biggest difference in your season.

1429
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: Right.

1430
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 4: It's like, because I kind of expect Holland to like

1431
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 4: get hurt or miss some games, or not be as

1432
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 4: ridiculously hot as last year or something city to be

1433
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 4: weird at the beginning of the season, But like most

1434
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 4: people are just going to hold him because the the

1435
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 4: smart thing is to be you know, conservative in this

1436
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 4: game and just be like, no, but it's Holland and

1437
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 4: he you know, doesn't matter. They're they're going to kill

1438
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 4: all these teams. But you know, maybe going off him

1439
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 4: sooner than others might might be the push for a

1440
01:07:58,280 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 4: good rank.

1441
01:07:58,800 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: We'll see.

1442
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 6: Final question for me before you go, is there a

1443
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 6: player and if this is out of bounce, you can

1444
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 6: say out of bounce and you know, no spoilers, but

1445
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 6: is there a player that you have a have circled

1446
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 6: and and maybe it was Wesa, but like that isn't

1447
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 6: being talked about much that he's like your guy's he's

1448
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 6: the one you're taking it the hill. You're gonna die on.

1449
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I am a big with the guy, and

1450
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 4: he's very very low percent on versus Bumo, who's highly on,

1451
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 4: which is kind of a weird quirk. But I like

1452
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 4: ESA too, But I am a little bit scared as

1453
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 4: Anthony highlighted with their business. I mean, he's really good

1454
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 4: and he has everything that I like in a fantasy player,

1455
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 4: and he's on pens. Now that's a os gun. But

1456
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 4: if if he's the only attacker on this team, I'm

1457
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 4: a little worried about going backing this boy Hodgson player

1458
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 4: to you know, keep scoring goals and keep getting into

1459
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 4: the box and all that stuff. So I'm tentative on

1460
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 4: him right now, but I got I got eyes on people.

1461
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: We'll say, all right, go ahead here to hear who

1462
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 1: you who you have eyes on.

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01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 6: And if you're into Fantasy Premier League, make sure to

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01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 6: listen to the f mL FPL pod with.

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Speaker 1: Alan and Walsh.

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Speaker 6: and remind them that we exist as we head into

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Speaker 6: NFL and college football season. But until then, we'll be

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Speaker 6: back next week with or later this week with our

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Speaker 6: week one deep dive, tell you why we're all betting

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Speaker 6: Brentford and Lowton and all these other terrible teams that

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01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 6: will break your heart against better teams. And on that note,

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