WEBVTT - Patrick Mahomes TEARS ACL, Chiefs dynasty OVER? Broncos to Super Bowl? + Micah Parsons injury | Nick Wright 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:05.440 Welcome in What's drive in the great episode four to four. 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:09.559 This episode, as always, is brought to you by Boost 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:18.560 Mobile as we get into the kind of the PostScript 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:23.880 era of this iteration of the dynasty of the last 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:28.880 decade my Kansas City Chiefs as the season from Hell 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:39.080 comes crashing down in sports tragic fashion with Patrick Mahomes 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:45.120 suffering a torn ACL and LCL in the waning moments 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:52.760 of another frustrating bad game for the Chiefs as a whole, 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:57.520 which was every game they played after the bye kind 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.760 of felt the same, except for the cow Boys game, 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:04.200 where the offense got going but the defense couldn't get 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:07.560 any stops, And where they all felt the same was 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.160 they just didn't look like the Chiefs at any point 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:15.120 post October this year. So and now what will they 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:20.800 look like as we get into whether or not Travis 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.119 Kelcey is going to continue playing, what Patrick is going 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:27.560 to look like post acl and all of that. So 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:32.760 that will be the lead of today's show, obviously, But 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.960 there's other news, and some of the other news is 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.560 in a weird way tied in with the Chiefs. Says, 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:44.600 you could make an argument that the single best defensive 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:49.840 player during Patrick's career, he's been the best player in football. 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:53.040 You could make an argument that over that same timeline, 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.920 the best defensive player in football's been Micah Parsons. I 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.400 know Miles Garrett, you know, would take issue with that, 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:03.280 but he's started in the discussion. And Micah also lost 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.640 for the season to a torn acl so we will 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:11.440 get into that. The Patriots collapse against Buffalo that Monday 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.760 Night football. Are the Steelers for real? All of that 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.240 coming up. Demons, How are you? I got your Christmas card? 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:25.400 That is, you have officially sent out Christmas cards in 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.880 your lifetime before I've ever sent them out in my lifetime, 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.320 So hat tip to you on that one. I am 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:38.040 a feeling that was more Maddie's doing than you're doing. However, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:39.600 maybe I'm wrong. 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:41.960 I'm not going to comment on that. Yeah, you're probably 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:43.760 more correct than you're not correct. 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.760 But those were. It was delightful to get those. Great 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:52.400 to see you, and we'll get right into it. Straight 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:56.280 to voicemail brought to you by Boost Mobile. The Commanders 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:02.919 are shutting down Jayden Daniels for the year, or they are. 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:07.080 Their season from Hell's different from Kansas City's, but maybe 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:10.680 in some ways more torturous after they felt so close 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.160 last year and it's like, Okay, next year, we're gonna 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.400 be awesome. Instead next year they're they're not good and 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.440 their quarterback suffers multiple injuries and now they're just shutting 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:24.280 him down. Fernando Mendoza wins the Heisman Trophy and Diego 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:29.800 Pavia postf all the voters in you know, some Andy 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.959 Kaufman esque bit to tank his draft stock as much 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.760 as he possibly can. A reminder to everybody like rate 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:41.880 subscribe review that does greatly help us out. That would 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.920 be a wonderful holiday gift to us if you guys 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:51.320 subscribe to the channel on YouTube and or on iTunes 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:56.320 or Spotify. But demands, let's get right into it. Chiefs lose, 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.240 Chiefs eliminated, Patrick injured. 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.160 One of the weirdestest reason that I've had to do 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.240 for this show. It was very strange. Chiefs eliminated from 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.160 the playoffs after the loss of the Chargers, Patrick mahomes 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.320 with the torn ACL and LCL. 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:10.640 They're done. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.600 Yesterdayson you said that this was the end of a 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:14.880 chapter or in the via chapter. 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:19.560 So I'll get into that part in a second. First, 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:26.400 I want to say this, this is pro football, and 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.240 this Yes, this is my hometown team, and yes I 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:37.960 have a personal relationship for with Patrick, and so Andy's 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.760 the face of the league and one of the defining 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:45.360 players in league history. All of those things make this 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:51.560 extra gutting in the short term, and we'll see what 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:58.880 it means in the long term. But I don't want 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:09.440 to overstate the how do I put this, because the 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:15.440 devastation of the moment is real. The sympathy or empathy 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:20.960 that folks should have for me or for Chiefs fans 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:30.599 or whatever right now, I think that's overstated because this 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:36.360 is pro football, and this happens, and it was the 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:40.240 Chief's turn to have the year from hell, and it 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:46.520 was sadly Patrick's turned to roll craps, and he was 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.680 fighting through a knee injury the last few weeks. He 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.680 was on the injury report. The last few weeks. You 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:59.000 saw him laboring. We said after Week one, man, he 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.680 sure ran a lot and sure took a lot of hits. 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.720 And there's a tax to all of it. There just is. 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:12.840 And there is a cost to the twenty game seasons. 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:17.160 There is a cost to the offensive line injuries. There 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:22.039 is a cost to Patrick's refusal to sit out a 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:26.960 game when his knee was obviously bothering him. There is 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:33.279 a cost to the Chiefs being in must win, gotta 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:37.080 have it elimination games this early in the season. You 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:41.120 extend your body, you extend plays, you put yourself out there, 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.719 and this happens. This is not I am sick for Patrick. 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:50.320 I'm sick for myself, but I'm also the Patriots and 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.960 their fans watch Tom Brady go down the first week 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.799 of a season. The Colts and their fans watched Peyton 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:01.840 Manning miss a whole year with neck injury. The Packers 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:06.120 and their fans watched Pete Aaron Rodgers knocked out for 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:10.240 half a season with a snapped collar bone. Like the 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:18.040 Ravens twice have had Lamar late in a year, get 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.720 hurt and never come back. The Bengals and Joe Burrow 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:25.240 have had multiple seasons derailed by the guy getting hurt. 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:30.520 Like this is pro sports and this sport in particular, 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:41.320 And so I I am trying to balance how much 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:46.560 it sucks that Patrick is going through this, how much 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:51.880 the reality of we now have a line of demarcation 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:56.720 in Patrick's career that's going to be before and after 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:01.920 the ACL and we're going to see how he recovers 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.280 from it, how he attacks it, how it changes for 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:11.400 good or for bad, the player that he is and 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:26.760 I and I can recognize that and do me a favorite. Guys, 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:31.360 don't put questions in the rundown near the top of it. Sorry, 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.280 this is a production note while we're doing it. It's good. 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:43.800 I lose my train of thought and I can recognize 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:47.680 all of that while also not feeling like woe is me? 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:53.560 Is appropriate. This has been as good of a seven 0:08:53.640 --> 0:09:03.679 year run as any football fan base ever gotten. Seven 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:10.920 years of conference championship games, five Super Bowl appearances, three 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.720 Super Bowl victories. That you can put it up against 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:21.239 anything any team has done in the history of the sport. 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:25.040 This seven years matches any seven years the Patriots had, 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:29.280 any seven years the Niners in the eighties had, and 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.960 the Steelers in the seventies is a weird one because 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.920 they won four super Bowls but they didn't get to 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.920 the conference championship game every year and they didn't get 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:42.040 to five super Bowls. That that's a tomato tomato thing. 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:43.840 You can say that one was better, but it's at 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:55.559 least in the argument and now the Chiefs received back 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:03.719 into football general population and then see if they can 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:09.840 emerge once again. And I and I hate that I 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:14.160 have talked about this comp so much and now it 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:19.040 is even more apropos. But you guys have heard me 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:25.800 whenever we have done the Brady Mahomes career stuff, talk 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:31.120 about in his eight years a starter, Tom blew out 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:36.560 his knee, and then that team had its only real lull. 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.600 Obviously they missed the playoffs the year Tom missed. They 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.720 still want eleven games, by the way, which is shout 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:46.520 out to how unbelievable the seven Pats and eight Pats 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:51.000 were as a roster. And then in two thousand and 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:55.840 nine Tom wasn't his best. They won ten games and 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.920 got annihilated in round one of the playoffs. And in 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:04.200 twenty ten Tom was exceptional. That team was fourteen and two, 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.160 and then they lost one of the weirdest playoff games 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:10.520 ever Mark Sanchez and the New York Jets. And then 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:17.840 in twenty eleven they started their run. And I don't 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:31.080 know what is I here is as far as this 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:35.560 not being what's the right way to put this, in 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:41.800 a weird way, I feel worse for Packer fans with 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:50.640 the Mica injury than for Chief fans with the Mahomes injury. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:57.240 In this regard, I was wrong about this team. They 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:02.640 didn't have it this year. And so had they been 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:10.959 eleven and three in that game and or I guess 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.640 ten and three because that was right? How do I 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.760 have this right? I'm all scattered ten and three going 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:21.240 into that game and had looked great. It was like, man, 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:26.040 this is another championship level team. I think this would 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:33.840 sting even more. But it was pretty clear it became 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:40.800 I came to terms with where this Chiefs team was 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:46.480 about an hour and a half before Mahomes's injury, the 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:52.199 final drive of the first half up thirteen to three, 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.679 letting the Chargers drive the length of the field, the 0:12:55.720 --> 0:13:00.240 combo platter of not being able to punch in the 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:06.719 Herbert interception and getting seven, and then later in the 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:11.120 second quarter allowing them to go the length of the 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:15.280 field in forty seconds to take what could have been 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.920 a seventeen to three or at the very least thirteen 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:24.120 to three, or worst case scenario, thirteen to six lead 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:29.800 into halftime in a must win home game, letting the Chargers, 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:34.360 whose offense right now is not very good, go the 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.600 length of the field to make it thirteen to ten, 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:41.839 and then watching the Chiefs offense do nothing the entire 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.960 second half. They didn't have it. And so this was 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:53.319 not the Chiefs leaving a man, left a potential championship 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:57.120 on the table because the quarterback got hurt. They were 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:57.920 not good enough. 0:13:57.960 --> 0:13:58.559 This year. 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:04.880 Was wrong. I talked a lot of shit, poked at 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.520 a lot of folks as soon as they looked like 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:13.320 the Chiefs. Again, that was a brief mirage in who 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:20.280 this scene was this season, and I do feel demonse 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.640 that they are about to have a mirror held up 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:31.960 to some of their structural issues that Patrick was holding 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:37.520 together over these last three weeks of the year, because 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:41.080 I think they are going to lose to the Tennessee Titans. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:46.200 I think they are going to get beat up by 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:52.800 the Denver Broncos. Okay, and then we'll see Week eighteen 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:59.840 Raiders Chiefs in Vegas. You know who shows up for that. 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:05.000 But I think with these o line injuries, this lack 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:11.080 of a running game, and one of the bigger disappointments 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:21.480 of this season is the lack of development from the 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:30.640 wide receivers. I think you're going to see what this 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:34.920 offense looks like with bad quarterback play, because I understand 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:42.000 Mahomes numbers after the bye the Cowboys game notwithstanding, were ghastly. 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.960 The Cowboys game is the one thing propping them up. 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:51.760 I think you're about to see what actual bad quarterback 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.560 play would look like with the team right now, with 0:15:54.640 --> 0:16:00.200 its issues. And I do think that there needs to 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:07.200 be some real soul searching is too strong, but some 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:18.440 personal accountability by everyone involved in the team. And hey, 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:24.280 how do we make sure the next time Patrick takes 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:31.560 the field this team doesn't have as many glaring weaknesses 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:36.400 as it had in twenty twenty five. And listen, it's hard. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.400 There is a reason only one team ever's gone to 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.960 four straight Super Bowls. There's a reason only one team 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:48.600 ever has gone to more than seven straight conference championship games. 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:55.800 There is a reason only three other teams ever had 0:16:55.800 --> 0:17:01.120 gone to three straight Super Bowls. What the Chiefs accomplished 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:07.880 was certain things were unprecedented, and certain things were only 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.240 you know, had only been accomplished by one or two 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:18.960 of the other greatest dynasties ever. But you saw some 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:28.000 of the where of the late draft picks of guys 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:34.840 not developing of some a draft miss here, a free 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:43.520 agency missed there, a poorly timed injury there, and they 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.000 couldn't run the ball and they couldn't rush the passer 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:53.760 all year long. And these receivers who I like. I 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.280 think Rashid Rice has the ability to be excellent. I 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:01.879 saw him be exceptional for the second half of his 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:06.480 rookie season. I know the talent Xavier Worthy has, but 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:12.919 those guys not developing into fully formed, legitimate man beating 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:17.760 wide receivers hurt this team a lot too. And so 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:24.439 those are the things that you address moving forward for 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:32.120 the Chiefs, and then you see what version of Patrick 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:35.760 we have when he comes back. 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:38.040 I believe. 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:46.320 The type of competitor and legendary athlete he is, that 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.200 there is a very good chance he comes back as 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:56.800 a better player as a player that if he especially 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:05.000 if he can't early on rely as much on his athleticism, 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:12.800 is even more precise in the pocket and traditional drop 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:15.719 back since then he's been the last couple of years, 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.840 and so I'm not worried about Patrick. And I would 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:24.760 put I understand it was a terrible injury and he 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:30.760 tore two ligaments. I would put all my money on 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.080 him being back for Week one next year. It's right 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:39.080 at nine months, and I think he'll do it. And 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:43.359 what will the team around him look like is the question. 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:45.879 Demon's know, some follow ups here before we get to 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:46.399 other stuff. 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.119 Yeah, you were talking about making sure the roster is 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.200 good from homes whenever he comes back. If Brett Veech 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:52.919 hit you up today and asked what they should do 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.280 to retool the team, how would you go about it? 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.200 I mean, I listen. I think the biggest weakness right 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:03.560 now is not being able to get a pass rush 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:09.080 outside of Chris Jones. And they spent a first round 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:13.639 pick on a player a couple of years ago who 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.119 was put on the IR. This year, they spent a 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.920 second round pick on Omar Norman Lot, a d tackle 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.760 who was put on the IR early in the year. 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:27.600 This was not a good Karloff this year and they 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:33.760 just paid him. So I think that that is the 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:37.800 first thing that I would address, and the other one 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:44.879 is they need to have listen. Isaiah Pacheco was an 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:48.840 unbelievable story as a seventh round pick and he was 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:53.359 very productive and then and again it's pro football man, 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:56.800 he broke his leg and has him been the same, 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:00.440 and I feel sick for him. I hate the fact 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:04.359 that he never really got paid. I and he's a 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:08.840 champion and you know, really helped the team before those injuries, 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.240 but he hasn't been the same since then, and they 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:16.800 can't run the ball effectively. So what they are going 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:20.840 to have demons next year is a third place schedule 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.919 and something like the tenth, eleventh, twelfth pick of the draft, 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:30.520 which are two things that you never would have thought 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:35.199 they would have going into this year. And so you 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:39.800 have to take advantage of those things, and you also 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:45.199 have to prepare for life after Travis Kelcey. Even though 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:51.640 it seems like a lot of people are fully convinced 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:57.280 Travis's retiring, I am not fully convinced of that. I 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:00.880 obviously not only is it possible, you could say it's likely, 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:05.760 but I don't know that he has made up his mind, 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:10.919 and I because I don't want to, right And so 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:13.760 now you don't always get to pick how you go out. 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:20.680 Travis's brother played in the Super Bowl against the Chiefs, 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.480 the famous you know, when they the first Eagle Chief 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:28.560 Super Bowl. They lost that Super Bowl. He decided to 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:31.359 come back for one more year, and that was the 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:34.919 year of the Eagles supernatural funk and meltdown and quitting 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.320 in the playoff game, and that's how he went out 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:41.600 one of the greatest sinners ever. Travis lost in the 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:46.560 Super Bowl, decided to come back and now like his 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:50.919 last moments with Mahomes on the field are dark, that 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:53.640 what that was, and so I don't know. I don't 0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:56.040 know what he's going to do. He is still a 0:22:56.080 --> 0:23:00.560 good player. Is he a dominant player anymore? No? Is 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:03.600 he still one of the this year? Was he one 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:07.120 of the five best tight ends in football? Yes? And 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.240 so he still has football left in him. The question 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:12.760 is if he wants to keep doing go ahead? 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:14.840 Do you think if it's a note that his brother 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:16.840 he sat out that year and then his team won 0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:19.000 the Super Bowl the next year, I think his brother's 0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:20.959 got to tell him to stick in and stay with him. 0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:21.680 Maybe you guys will get this. 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:25.119 Oh that's interesting. Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean, I 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.560 guess that's right. Is the first year after. 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:30.400 Yeah, they won Super Bowl? 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:30.720 Point? 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.200 Yeah, what's your predictions for the next chapter? 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:41.800 Listen, I think that I think that as long as 0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:45.000 you have the as long as you have Patrick Mahomes 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.679 and Andy's not going anywhere. And I understand there's been 0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:50.879 some criticism of Andy. I don't think this was his 0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:55.199 best year. I think Andy will is one of the 0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:59.399 greatest coaches in NFL history. And I do think that they, 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.720 you know, the the Chiefs offense post b enemy with 0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:06.960 Matt Nagy hasn't been as guys are not running as 0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.440 wide open as they once were and things aren't quite 0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:13.879 as easy, and so they do need to address that. 0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:19.240 But I believe Andy Reid is gonna be the coach 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:20.760 of the Chiefs as long as he wants to be 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.000 the coach of the Chiefs, and I'm good with that. 0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:29.639 And Spags isn't going anywhere. And I believe Mahomes will 0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:34.000 come back and still be Mahomes, and so I do 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:39.119 think that they can snap back to top tier contender. 0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:43.280 They were the favorites to win the Super Bowl twenty 0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:46.760 nine days ago. But it's the NFL man. 0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:52.240 Like shit hacken crazy. I mean, ago just weight. 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:56.639 On the super Bowl twenty nine days But you know, 0:24:57.880 --> 0:24:59.920 you gotta win games, you gotta play better, you gotta 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:06.600 get lucky on the injury stuff, and so I Will 0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:12.760 I think that they will be the favorites in the 0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:17.679 AFC West again the start of next year. I think that, 0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.480 and you know, we'll get to Denver and the Chargers 0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:27.240 later in the show. I think that they will. If 0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:31.160 Buffalo does what it looks like Buffalo could do, they 0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:34.639 might have someone to go chase, which you know what, like, 0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:40.760 that's how it's supposed to be. And I am not 0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:47.560 worried at all that the Chiefs are not going to 0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:53.280 get back to being the scariest team in football. I 0:25:53.320 --> 0:26:00.959 am acknowledging that this year will across the board is 0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:06.160 looked at as a failure. And then you you double 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:10.440 that up with the pain of the injury to Patrick, 0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:16.399 and you double that up with the Broncos in the 0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:20.280 Chargers having the years they've had, and it's like, Okay, 0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:23.240 they're gonna have a fight on their hands every year, 0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:33.200 so be it. I am. 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All right, Demanda, let's 0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:27.720 get to these other games. 0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:28.399 All right. 0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:31.120 So, if Burrow's press conference last week wasn't bad enough, 0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.360 he came out this week and said that no NFL 0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.640 team would have won with him playing at quarterback after 0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:39.400 getting shut out Ravens twenty four to zero. After the game, 0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:41.560 Burrow had said that his comments had nothing to do 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:45.200 with the Bengals specifically, it was just football in general. 0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:46.640 Do you think that that might be worse? 0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.600 Man? I don't know what's going on with Joe Burrow, 0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:58.080 And you know, my theory is a very simple one, 0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.240 which is and I talked to her this last week, 0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:03.240 so we don't have to harp on it too much. 0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:09.680 Year one, he blows out his knee. Year two he 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.200 plays in the Super Bowl. Year three plays in the 0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:20.840 AFC Championship Game, and then year four he suffers that 0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:24.880 calf injury before the year, and then the wrist injury 0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:31.240 during the year, and he's out. Year five, he's healthy, 0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:35.480 but the team is just terrible as far as their defense, 0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.360 and it doesn't matter how good he is. And in 0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:43.280 year six, the really weird turf toe and he's like, man, 0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:46.760 this sucks. I'm getting the shit kicked out of me. 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:53.400 The team since I've been here one year, maybe two years, 0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:55.920 we had a good defense. The other years the defenses 0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.520 have been a problem. Every year the offensive line has 0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:02.520 been bad. He won't even shovel off the seats for 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:08.320 our fans at the stadium, and like, this isn't a 0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:14.400 fun life right now. And so I hed he is 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:18.480 a thoughtful guy, and he also is a very private guy, 0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.960 and I don't think he's loved the celebrity piece of 0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:27.160 NFL quarterback. It would be stunning to me if he 0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:32.560 is actually contemplating being done playing football. I don't think 0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:36.800 that's happening. It would not be stunning to me if 0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:43.479 he is considering forcing his way out of Cincinnati that 0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:47.400