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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, This is media Mash,

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Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders trumping wisdom and offering sizzling

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Speaker 1: takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now

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Speaker 1: your host knew, he scrugs.

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Speaker 2: Here we are media mash.

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Speaker 3: Everybody the Dallas Cowboys heading into a Sunday night football

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Speaker 3: matchup with the Denver Broncos. And it was another hot

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Speaker 3: day in the locker room to join us and talk

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Speaker 3: about it. Right now, We've got the Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 3: he is Ed Werder in the house. We've got most

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Speaker 3: trusted Clarence Hill in the house. I am merely NEWI scrugs,

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Speaker 3: So I missed them. Michael Parsons portion to go do

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Speaker 3: media mash here, So Michaeh. Lively live Wire today, guys

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Speaker 3: ed taking me from the top here.

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Speaker 4: He spoke for what about twenty minutes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he spoke for twenty on the.

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Speaker 4: General state native affairs and more specifically on his approach

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Speaker 4: to his off season contract negotiations, stating once again that

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Speaker 4: he does not have to make forty million a year.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't have to be paid as the highest defensive

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Speaker 4: player in football, emphasizing he wants to get something done early,

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Speaker 4: which obviously didn't happen with Ceedee Lamb and Dak Prescott

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Speaker 4: last offseason, and he feels like that was detrimental to

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Speaker 4: building a quality team. Wants them to use some of

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Speaker 4: the savings and the time to sign back some of

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Speaker 4: his current teammates and to be more aggressive in free agency,

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Speaker 4: not going to hold out. Says he'll be here during

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Speaker 4: the off season. Endorsed Mike Zimmer as a defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 5: Wants him back and says he's one of his sons,

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Speaker 5: another one of his daddies.

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Speaker 4: They went to a dinner at d Lincoln Steakhouse nearby

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Speaker 4: recently and zim told him to put away the card

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Speaker 4: and in return for that, he got a public endorsement

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Speaker 4: from Michael Parsons stamps him as his defensive coordinator. That's

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Speaker 4: been a growing relationship. It seems like, Yeah, been kind

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Speaker 4: of interesting to hear Mike talk about it.

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Speaker 5: It's growing because you go back to minicamp when he

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Speaker 5: hadn't talked to him.

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Speaker 2: Remember Mike Zimber, you know, he just kind of stand off.

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Speaker 5: Was a standoff initially and they was Zimmer was hazing

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Speaker 5: a little bit, didn't speak to him because they missed

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Speaker 5: our OTA's and you know, and Mica I haven't you know,

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Speaker 5: spent much.

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Speaker 2: Time with him there. Oh, Zimba was tough.

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Speaker 5: And then they started going to breakfast and you go,

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Speaker 5: that was a training camp storyline at me for breakfast

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Speaker 5: and everything like that.

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Speaker 2: But it was Michael unplugged.

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Speaker 5: And that's why it's you know, when he was mad

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Speaker 5: at the meetia first of all, as I said, he

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Speaker 5: can never stay mad to meet.

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Speaker 2: Michael likes to talk.

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Speaker 5: The likes to he likes that he has things to say,

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Speaker 5: and he likes to fill up our notebook, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, like he's like Michael Irvin right in that regard.

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Speaker 4: He's he's the first competitor to Michael Irvin in terms

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Speaker 4: of you're standing there at three o'clock in the afternoon

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Speaker 4: with nothing to report, and then he becomes available and

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Speaker 4: you got days of content.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I mean it's crazy, and you know, there's so

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Speaker 5: much to talk about the contract. And then he was asked,

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Speaker 5: which is sure it's gonna go just as a viral

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Speaker 5: about rooting for.

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Speaker 2: Philly, and which he should this week.

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Speaker 5: Because Philly you need Philly to be washed to keep

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Speaker 5: all your hopes alive.

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Speaker 2: But you know, getting the play, they.

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Speaker 4: Could be eliminated by the time they take the field

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Speaker 4: Sunday night against Tampa Bay. If Washington wins the game,

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Speaker 4: wins the game.

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Speaker 2: So and he said, f Philly. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: know what we can use on it. He's actually said

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Speaker 2: the word. You know. It was basically because all.

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Speaker 5: The fans and not the players, it's just the Philly fans,

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Speaker 5: and they come at them on social media. And he said,

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Speaker 5: f Philly, you know, and and so I'm sure that's

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Speaker 5: gonna cost Philly fans to come at even more.

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Speaker 4: You're looking at my watch, Clarence and wondering why Steven

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Speaker 4: hasn't already announced he has signed Michael. I am even

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Speaker 4: the terms he just and lost.

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Speaker 2: I'm right.

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Speaker 5: I was writing it yesterday and I held off and

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Speaker 5: writing today. They need to college bluff. Let's do the

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Speaker 5: deal right now. Get come on into the office.

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Speaker 4: I got a half hour. Let's get this set.

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Speaker 2: The agent done. He said.

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Speaker 5: They told Todd that was don't do between thirty and

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Speaker 5: forty million today. He didn't go down to thirty, but

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Speaker 5: he said he don't leave forty, Hen'll need to be

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Speaker 5: the highest paid.

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Speaker 4: Said like thirty nine eight, Yeah, what's it gonna take.

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Speaker 4: What do you think under forty is a good deal

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Speaker 4: for the Calvin It's.

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Speaker 5: A great deal, he said. I'm gonna be here for OTA's.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing the whole Auvergate College bluff. Let's get it

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Speaker 5: done now. That's who's real. That's who who's not gonna blink.

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Speaker 5: The Cowboys talking about we tight against the cap and

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Speaker 5: all of this mumbo jumbo they've been doing. They held

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Speaker 5: down with Steve, how they did Dak and how they

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Speaker 5: did City. Well, Micah has a solution. He's offering a solution.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna take less money. I want to get it

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Speaker 5: done early. I'm gonna be for OTAs.

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Speaker 4: And like, I can't imagine what David Mullaga is gonna

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Speaker 4: think when he's agent whenes this, Like he's negotiating some

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Speaker 4: of the richest contracts in sports, including Sean Watson as

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Speaker 4: the only quarterback in the history of the NFL to

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Speaker 4: get a fully guaranteed contract under the most dire of circumstances.

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Speaker 4: And he created that market.

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Speaker 5: And and and you know, and Deck said the same thing,

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Speaker 5: gonna need to be the highest paid play but let

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Speaker 5: my agent do the business.

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Speaker 2: But he also said that they owe it to other

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Speaker 5: And so I'm still and you like, now you got

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Speaker 5: to get you because when you get more money, the

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Speaker 5: next player gets more money.

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Speaker 2: It lifts our votes and.

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Speaker 4: The Jerry want. Yeah, you always think it's a bluff.

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Speaker 4: You don't think he'll really signed for this.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's a bluff. Come on, come on, come on.

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Speaker 4: Well he's not going to have the defensive player. He's

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Speaker 4: not gonna be top three and defensive player of your

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Speaker 5: And he said it's because he was he was hurt,

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Speaker 5: he was humbled, but listen, he said it was humbled.

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Speaker 4: But I think in his absence, he really underscored the

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Speaker 4: his importance.

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Speaker 2: Right, thank you, because the return their.

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Speaker 4: Defense has come to life since he came back, and

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Speaker 4: he still leads a team in sacks even though he

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Speaker 4: quarterback hits. Now they've played a succession of week teams.

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Speaker 4: But still that makes the point.

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Speaker 2: Oh, then they hit up here on the stats.

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Speaker 3: They said, since Michael Parson's return of the defense uh

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Speaker 3: in Week ten, the Cowboys have notched twenty four sacks,

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Speaker 3: the most of the NFL over the last six weeks,

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Speaker 3: and generated thirteen takeaways, which is third in the league,

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Speaker 3: which I think right there.

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Speaker 2: By him not being there.

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Speaker 4: That's in their release. Yes, you could take them with

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Speaker 4: their own release and say here's what IOI I want

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Speaker 4: thirty eight million.

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Speaker 2: Page one, page one. Right there, he.

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Speaker 4: Said he would take less than forty. Yes, said he

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Speaker 3: So when Micah says, I don't have to be the

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Speaker 3: highest paid, and we go back to what Dak Prescott said,

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Speaker 3: and then what Dak Prescott took, I come into the

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Speaker 3: mindset of what Jerry Jones once said, just.

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Speaker 2: Because I said it doesn't make it.

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Speaker 6: Of course, just because you said that your agent didn't

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Speaker 6: make it. Taylor take that kind of strong all of that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's not early. It's that's why I said,

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Speaker 5: take him up on his office. Now, let's do something

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Speaker 5: I president.

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Speaker 4: I said, why why haven't the Cowboys agreed to terms.

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Speaker 5: With Let's get season over. Let's get it done now

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Speaker 5: this afternoon. Then you know, and you get it done now,

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Speaker 5: you can detect the extra season on it, you know,

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Speaker 5: you know you want to be able to do that

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Speaker 5: for a Sunday the football game.

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Speaker 4: But he didn't talk about the importance of playing with

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Speaker 4: o'diggy Zua, that he hates the thought of Golston being gone.

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Speaker 4: That you know, they've spent their whole careers here early together,

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Speaker 4: They've built something and he really can't imagine not playing

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but the reality is you can't keep them all.

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Speaker 5: You know, when it spent up, you're paying Mike of

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Speaker 5: that kind of money.

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Speaker 2: Again. They we've talked about this.

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Speaker 5: They have roughly thirty guys who are free agents on

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Speaker 5: the last year.

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Speaker 2: Of their deals. Who is.

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Speaker 5: It's not a fault, it's just a fact issue, you know,

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Speaker 5: And so they have to replace you guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to replenish the roster.

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Speaker 5: And some of those guys are gonna be Stevens said

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Speaker 5: it last week. They're playing well and it's too bad

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Speaker 5: for us. Good for them because they're gonna be wanted

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Speaker 5: on the market. And so when you're paying I don't

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Speaker 5: care what Michael takes less. You know you're not gonna

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Speaker 5: be able to compete for with teams for Osa Diigga Zula.

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Speaker 2: If you're paying Michael thirty eight minus, well.

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Speaker 4: Then you're gonna be looking for two defensive tackles instead

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'd rather pay a young defensive tackle than

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Speaker 2: Why are you Why are you doing this? Why are

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Speaker 5: Why are you just throwing Jordan Lewis under butler? Why

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Speaker 5: are you listen Jordan? Because it's the NFL and you'd

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Speaker 5: rather pay twenty six then you would thirty? I understand,

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Speaker 5: But why you why you were talking about when we

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Speaker 4: Didn't know Dad? Free agents?

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Speaker 2: Why you just do more? Boy? Jordan like DoD Jordan

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Speaker 2: have his best year. He moved, Uh, he checks why

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Speaker 2: he needs to go get paid? He changed agents? What

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Speaker 2: the David Canton?

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Speaker 4: He tried to get paid inside outside you play?

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Speaker 5: He's at his place for he's getting he's getting mentioned

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Speaker 5: for Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 2: No, it's lock corner.

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Speaker 4: Canna have to brace up his elbow this weekend to play.

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Speaker 2: I got a young dotty take care of right. I

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Speaker 2: think he's at his best year. I think it's been

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Speaker 2: the most.

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Speaker 4: Probably won't be ready start of the year, be compromised.

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Speaker 2: No probably.

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Speaker 4: Oh he's a doctor and an accountant.

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Speaker 2: The most trusted.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: Probably.

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Speaker 3: And that's not saying do you like uh like gallop did?

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Speaker 3: I don't don't feel.

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Speaker 5: Right, I hear you, But it depends on what the

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Speaker 5: market is, you know. I don't know what Jordan won't

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Speaker 5: get on the market.

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Speaker 5: Ring what I'm saying, you know good and they've had

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Speaker 3: If Dan Campbell can figure it out the way McCarthy

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Speaker 4: Well, and here we are talking about forget depth. We're

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Speaker 3: And Mike once again, you know, he talks about, you know,

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Speaker 3: how do you look at these next three football games?

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Speaker 3: Your last three games were against defenses that weren't any

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Speaker 4: All right, Well we've got in terms of guys who

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Speaker 4: but I would expect he would play, would you not, Clarence.

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Speaker 2: I expect you'll play it.

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Speaker 5: And Mike said ear the day that most of the

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Speaker 4: Somebody was giving me all kinds of hell about that

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Speaker 4: The coaches are invested in winning with some of the

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Speaker 5: But my point is if they lose out, all this

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Speaker 5: gotta losing record. We're still in the throws.

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Speaker 4: Three out of four and.

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Speaker 5: Now three out of four, but we're still six and eight.

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Speaker 5: And now you know, man, they got this one and

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Speaker 5: we can bring them back three gay in three weeks.

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Speaker 5: It could be a whole another scenario. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Your courts his fluid. Somebody must Yeah, that's why you

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Speaker 4: play all the games.

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Speaker 5: It is, it is, But yes, bron Hoffman is playing well.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if we need to put away the

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Speaker 5: annoying oils. That's all I'm saying. There's a ceiling on

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Speaker 5: what this office line is. And we'll see and.

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Speaker 2: We'll learn a lot more this weekend in the next

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: So on the practice board, Chimundoga Limited started left tackle,

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Speaker 3: ended up getting injured and then had to come.

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Speaker 2: Back in and he played guard when he came back in,

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Speaker 2: can pick get on the field?

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Speaker 3: That was my next I saw him in the locker room.

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Speaker 3: I didn't get it. I had to come and do

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Speaker 3: The players decided to get to come up, come chat.

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Speaker 3: But did he talk? Did he say Anything's he going?

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Speaker 3: Tyler guy? He didn't talk to talk.

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Speaker 4: We were all talking to Mike. He was available.

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Speaker 5: There's a cast system, you know, it's a cast.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's talking.

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Speaker 5: I remember, No, I remember early you know, first round

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Speaker 5: pick early camp you're running to him, you running him,

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Speaker 5: running too early, seat running. You know, you want to

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Speaker 5: get some person. He you know, has not talked a lot,

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Speaker 5: but ain't nobody clamoring to talk to him either right.

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Speaker 10: Not me.

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Speaker 4: If there was going to be a line, it wasn't

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Speaker 4: starting with me.

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Speaker 6: Last time I talked to him, we discussed pedicure.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's in the same thing with with Z.

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Speaker 5: You know, ain't nobody running trying to get some flags.

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Speaker 5: Now it's a when you don't play well, the media

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Speaker 5: that you know that the top.

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Speaker 6: Well, actually it's worse than that, because sometimes if you're

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Speaker 6: a good plan but you don't play well, we asked

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Speaker 6: questions about well, how come you're not playing?

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Speaker 2: That was early with Z. Now we have apathy towards you.

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Speaker 2: Now we punted on Z. Is my point. Early on

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Speaker 2: Z we threw run the Z. We could ask him,

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Speaker 2: you know, get on the field.

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Speaker 6: My big point is this apathy. It's not even that

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Speaker 6: you don't care, You have no care.

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Speaker 2: At the height of.

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Speaker 3: His powers, remember after a game, he'd be the first

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Speaker 3: to talk, you know, right in the locker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah talk and yeah, there's no there's no demand. First

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Speaker 2: got to talk in the locker room.

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Speaker 3: Now after the game, it depends Jerry.

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Speaker 5: The first is throwing up, Jerry is talking before my cards.

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Speaker 2: I'm just letting you know, Jerry in the talk period,

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Speaker 2: I said in the locker room.

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Speaker 5: I'm generally with Mike, but I would say that based

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Speaker 5: on it used to be Zeke and I would say

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Speaker 5: it's CD talks, you know, Michael, I don't know they're

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Speaker 5: the first one, but there there there, they're consistent.

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Speaker 2: It depends on the winner of the loss. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: really does.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you can get Jordan anytime. You get some

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Speaker 5: of the defensive guys anytime. They're always available.

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Speaker 2: After San Francisco was overshown. Yeah, I mean you get

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Speaker 2: some of the guys over will talk, you know in the.

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Speaker 4: Locker I thought that was Diggs didn't Digs out and

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Speaker 4: talked to Michael Leslie.

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Speaker 2: First about these nuts.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't at the game. I'm just asking that I.

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Speaker 2: Had my phone, just like Leslie mild Well. He knows

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Speaker 2: how many people have viewed that.

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Speaker 3: Video to him and Jesus boy Cross themselves out.

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Speaker 2: About his teammates. I forgot.

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Speaker 4: Michael spoke highly of Digs today.

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Speaker 2: They did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was defending his Trayvon Diggs today about people

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Speaker 4: being critical of him and maybe not knowing what his

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Speaker 4: responsibility he did. He did suggest he's not always maybe

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Speaker 4: as engaged in a play as he should be. But

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Speaker 4: he also said he's he's built from the same he

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Speaker 4: comes from the same competitive cloth as Mike.

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Speaker 5: That's one of his closest friends. He also called him

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Speaker 5: Toots in camp.

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Speaker 2: I called him Toots.

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Speaker 5: Because his lackadaisical attitude and style. He called him Toots,

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Speaker 5: and he talked about it. You know, he maybe's body language.

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Speaker 5: They always the way it is. But here he was

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Speaker 5: even after practice, he was going and going somewhere down

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Speaker 5: the street.

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Speaker 2: He couldn't name it training camp.

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Speaker 4: You're doing extra work.

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Speaker 2: On his own, not with Night but not with the rehab.

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Speaker 4: Guys right outside.

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Speaker 6: You're winning them, baby mamas, I just asked, I need.

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Speaker 2: I will say this about Diggs for people who you know, we've.

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Speaker 3: Seen social media where people have questioned his toughness and

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Speaker 3: things like that at times, and I do remind people

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Speaker 3: he did play for Nick Saban and was on a

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Speaker 3: championship team.

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Speaker 2: That's taking a step further. You can't be in the

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Speaker 2: NFL and not be tough.

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Speaker 6: They are varying degrees of toughness, but there's everybody in

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Speaker 6: the NFL has a degree of toughness to them, or

550
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Speaker 6: you could never get it.

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Speaker 4: They're all tougher than the ordinary citizen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's insane with the people. No, no, no no.

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Speaker 5: But I don't think that the issue is not toughness.

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Speaker 5: This issue may be work ethic. I mean, I think

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Speaker 5: we're talking two different.

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Speaker 2: Things about what we get on social media. That's what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Get yeah, because if you haven't been blessed to be

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Speaker 6: close to the sideline and heard that thing and the

560
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Speaker 6: NFL game, well it's sound completely different than the high

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Speaker 6: school college and how.

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Speaker 4: Fast you can't even get out of the way, which

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Speaker 4: and they're not coming for you and you still can't

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Speaker 4: get out of the way.

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Speaker 3: That was me when Lamar LaVar Arrington hit Aikman to

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Speaker 3: the last time in his career, like let me get

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Speaker 3: out of it.

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Speaker 2: It was it was incredibly fast.

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Speaker 3: But my thing with Diggs, just for the people know

570
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Speaker 3: who were saying those things, I would just want the

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Speaker 3: man played for Nick Saban at Alabama they won championships

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Speaker 3: and playing that on the other side of Patrick's or team.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to start at Alabama play as long

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Speaker 3: as he did and do that if you if you can't,

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Speaker 3: if you don't have any toughness about you or you

576
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Speaker 3: can't play.

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Speaker 2: He just it just it's it's just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 4: But tackling in the run game, in the run game,

579
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Speaker 4: for him, it's kind of like it was for Dion.

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Speaker 2: That's all that people are talking about.

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Speaker 4: It. Had a pretty good career.

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Speaker 2: He made have been a decision. Hey man, it's okay.

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Speaker 2: He get the ball. Yeah, he does get the ball.

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Speaker 3: The talent and you know, I I advocated for them

585
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Speaker 3: taking Digs in the first round. He's got him in

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Speaker 3: the second round. But he was a player that I

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Speaker 3: liked and I thought he could could help out. And

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Speaker 2: to fill that thing up. Yes, okay, and now they

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00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: got banners over the seat and cover it. They cover it,

669
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: I mean they, I mean it.

670
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 4: Was actually removed the actual like concrete banners over seats anymore.

671
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: They removed the concrete. I mean, it's it's crazy.

672
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 5: I mean that place used to be full when it

673
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 5: opened up, and now it's it's it's a dump.

674
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: It is it is.

675
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: I stopped going into the press box and rain one

676
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: day and just start raining on my papers. I'm trying

677
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 3: to write take notes like yeah, I'm good. And then

678
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: your man, your man Dan Snyder the time serving hot

679
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: dogs and you turned it over and it was like

680
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: a pink line thing. I was like, yeah, I'm not

681
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: eating that. And then I remember they had a bad

682
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: grade on the food hospitality because they like went around

683
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: all the stadiums and they had a horrible So I

684
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: started going to a local grocery store bringing my food

685
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: to the game.

686
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: And then I just said, you know, wow, that pressed

687
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: the lead. Yeah, so I was like, you know this, this,

688
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: don't they have that done well?

689
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 4: Mister Schnyder is now gone. That's true, but the Washington

690
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 4: Commanders are contending for the playoffs, and the first year

691
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 4: of new ownership, a new head coach, a rookie starting quarterback.

692
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 4: She's like from Houston, Texas.

693
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome.

694
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: I still missed the trip this year, so I'm good.

695
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: I'm good right now between between Washington and Philly.

696
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: I let my man go. Don't even get those trips.

697
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: That's nice of you. I got the Giants.

698
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 12: That's benevolent of you. Take New York City, that's magnanimous.

699
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 12: Hey man, you know I let them have Carolina this year.

700
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 12: You know normally my trip too. So I went to

701
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 12: boat Jangles. I thought about you.

702
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: Did you get the bone in the good? Of course

703
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: was good. I was startling. I got the plane and

704
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: went to be I met bow Jangles. There you go

705
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: down from C to B.

706
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: This is the kind of stuff you talk about when

707
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 4: the team six and eight basic dirty.

708
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 5: Right dirty Riceles then, actually, because my plan got delayed

709
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 5: on Monday back when he back at Bojangles and me

710
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 5: and a whole lot Bojangles doing brisk business on Monday

711
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 5: with playing delay, m yeah, I made.

712
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: If Mike McCarthy loses these next three games, how does

713
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: he owner feel?

714
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: Because now you talk to six and eleven.

715
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 4: Which would be the most games McCarthy he's ever lost

716
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 4: in a single season in eighteen years as a head coach.

717
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: And he's thirteenth all time and wins right now, may not,

718
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: may not, may be stuck right there with Jeff Fisher.

719
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 4: Well, I think Jerry's problem. I think Jerry probably would

720
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 4: prefer not to make a coaching change. It's a matter

721
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: of can he sell the fan base on that. But

722
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: I feel like if Jerry has a conviction about McCarthy

723
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 4: coming back as a head coach, then he should follow

724
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 4: his conviction.

725
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: Jerry, just sit on.

726
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: This Netflix preview is bigger than bigger than just football.

727
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 5: Probably doing this Jerry Netflix preview into this. I mean,

728
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 5: it's just talking about what.

729
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: Do you think they're six and eleven. McCarthy's calling the

730
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 4: plays on offense, they've had auge. You know, let's not

731
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 4: forget all of the embarrassing losses they suffered at home.

732
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: Let's remember they're one in six at home. You know,

733
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 4: it's worse than one and six at home Tennessee Titans

734
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 4: and the Giants. The Giants haven't won at home yet,

735
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 4: and Tennessee's as bad as the Cowboys are at home.

736
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: I think Jerry's did it all on the radioshot of

737
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: the day.

738
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 5: He put it all in perspective when he said that

739
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 5: don't forget who we beaten. You know, we're beating bad

740
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 5: teams and we lost a good team and don't forget.

741
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 4: He also and that was interesting to me, is that

742
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, he's talking about all the injuries

743
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 4: and McCarthy's kept the team playing hard despite all of that. Well,

744
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 4: they got a lot of veteran players who are at

745
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 4: going out of contracts. They're trying to get their next deal,

746
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: whether here or someplace else. And you got a bunch

747
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 4: of undrafted free agents who are still trying to create

748
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 4: a space for themselves on an NFL roster, primarily here.

749
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 4: And he wasn't He's the one who said, I forget

750
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 4: what game it was. But halfway through the season, after

751
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 4: they lost Dak, he said, hey, we lost we won

752
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 4: three games with Dak. We aren't playing good with any quarterback, right.

753
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 5: And he said, the results of the results, and I'm

754
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 5: not happy with the results.

755
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: I'm not happy with the record, you know.

756
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 5: And we can feel good about three out of four,

757
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 5: but at the end of the day, we're not happy.

758
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: With the team.

759
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 5: And they will be judged and Mike will be judged

760
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 5: on the final record. And so that's why I say,

761
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 5: you know, they lose three in a row. You know,

762
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 5: there's no momentum.

763
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: So when you slide Keller Moore in here, I just

764
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 3: don't see an eighty year old owner going and giving

765
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: a job to someone who's never done.

766
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: That first year coach. He's never done that. Well, I

767
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: think that depends on he did it with Jason Garrett.

768
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 2: It depends on how he was part of him. I'm saying.

769
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying that's like, that's why I said that.

770
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 6: Yes, normally wouldn't do it for the first year coach,

771
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 6: but he knows how it works around here. He's been

772
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 6: thought of highly an NFL circus.

773
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 4: He's called plays for this quarterback. This quarterback has a

774
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 4: brother like relationship.

775
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: Remember the last time he was calling place said preferred

776
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: the league and picks.

777
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 4: That was how did he do the other years he.

778
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: Was Joyce did.

779
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: And then McCarthy was like, man, we got to get

780
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 3: him out of here. And next thing, you know, he

781
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 3: leads a league. Maybe I think Mike is back.

782
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think the opack and plays. Oh yeah,

783
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 5: I don't know about that. Mike's not gonna not call play.

784
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 4: That's what I think. I think, Like he doesn't have value.

785
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 4: If he's not your play call, if you don't if

786
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 4: you don't like what he does as a play caller,

787
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 4: there's no reason to bring him back.

788
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 5: He's not I mean, he's not giving a play call.

789
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 5: I mean he's not doing.

790
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 4: Would he do it for his job?

791
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 5: I mean I think that's he I think that's how

792
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 5: he embodies his job as I mean, we've talked, but.

793
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 4: I'm saying, is he if Jerry says, I'll bring it

794
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 4: back as a head coach and sign you for three

795
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 4: years or four years, but you're not calling the plays

796
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 4: as Mike willing to say? Okay? Or does he say, hey,

797
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: I'm a free agent. Let me go see what New Orleans.

798
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 4: Let me go see Aaron Rodgers wants me to coach

799
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 4: him at the Jets.

800
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, who's this? Who you gonna have to

801
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: be Mike's play call? I don't know. By the way,

802
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: Campbell was the first time. Yeah, but he was in

803
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 2: the he was in the system.

804
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 4: But and but again he's part of Jimmy's family.

805
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 5: The biggest thing with with with with Mike coming back

806
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 5: is that there are really no real options. I mean,

807
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 5: there's no there. I'm sorry, I think Mike has done

808
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 5: a great job. I think it's a good rate coach.

809
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 5: I think it's a good coach. Five five and twenty five.

810
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: A great okay, this year the.

811
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 5: Body I'm telling his body at work. And I don't

812
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 5: think he gets enough credit for twenty five five twenty

813
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 5: five the year you can go twelve and five when

814
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 5: he lost that, right, you know, I don't think it's

815
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 5: enough credit.

816
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: I think he did a good job managing his team, certainly,

817
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 2: and when he did lose DA he got a twelve

818
00:36:59,400 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: and five.

819
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I don't think it's enough credit for that.

820
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 5: And is it his fault they haven't gotten over the

821
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 5: hump in the playoffs, you know, And you look at

822
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 5: the ross I've always pushed back on. This is the

823
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 5: most talented team.

824
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 4: And I remember the one year he said came out

825
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 4: of the San Francisco playoff game saying, oh, we were nervous.

826
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 4: I knew we were. And then when they lost to

827
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 4: Green Bay and got blown out in the first half

828
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: of that game, fell behind twenty seven nothing, he was

829
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 4: talking about, Oh, you got to get the quarterback comfortable

830
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 4: in the game earlier, like, well, what is it? How

831
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 4: are your guys not ready to play.

832
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: In these moments, no, no doubt, no doubt.

833
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 4: I like Mike too, and I think he's done a

834
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 4: good job, and I wouldn't have any I wouldn't have

835
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 4: pose bringing him back either. I think the risk you

836
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 4: take with Kellen Moore is you know how he's going

837
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 4: to be as a play caller. What you don't know

838
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 4: is Kenny run the whole team?

839
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: Can he be a leader of men?

840
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 4: Kenny run the whole team?

841
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 5: And we've seen his interviews. He doesn't engender confidence.

842
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 9: No.

843
00:37:54,280 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: I I just can't see the owner moving off when

844
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: there's no better option.

845
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

846
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 4: And my thing is this, we don't know what he

847
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: thinks a better option is.

848
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 5: And my thing is this, because it's not like they

849
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 5: have lost. They don't need a new voice.

850
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: They haven't lost, He hasn't lost the players. Okay, So

851
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 2: not like you need a new voice.

852
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 5: Who comes in here and takes the Cowboys to this

853
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 5: because that's the goal, Okay, it's not just to get

854
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 5: back to the playoffs. Who comes here and improves this

855
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 5: team and makes them a super Bowl team.

856
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: I would say my biggest concern about Mike is his

857
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 4: philosophy as it pertains to the running game. Everybody in

858
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 4: the NFL. The good teams are running football now more

859
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 4: than ever, more than anytime in the last ten years.

860
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 4: Good teams are running the football now. All teams are

861
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 4: running the football more. And if you look at the

862
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 4: teams that are winning, they're running the football. Look at Philadelphia,

863
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 4: and he started to and he doesn't ever really do that.

864
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 3: He started to figure it out here in these last

865
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: three games, well, because he's playing with the backup quarterback.

866
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: And the three games are against.

867
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 4: Bad against teams bad against the run.

868
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: So this is and I don't I think they can

869
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: improve with the running back.

870
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 4: And isn't that the way Jerry won his Super Bowl?

871
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 4: He won with the run oriented offenses and defenses that

872
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 4: had depth and could rush the passer. That's how they won.

873
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 4: And Mike just doesn't ever buy into the run game.

874
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 4: And I like, how many times did he stand up

875
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 4: there and say, Hey, the only thing standing between Rico

876
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 4: Dwell and exceptional running statistics are gettinghim enough rushes? Well,

877
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 4: who's Garret, who's calling the runs? You think you have

878
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 4: to run the football to win?

879
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 5: Mike's not gonna right, But with Mike getting body else

880
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 5: if they don't change their ways, and how they handle

881
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 5: free agency. It doesn't matter who to coach. You're not

882
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 5: gonna get to the next level. You not become You're

883
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 5: not gonna become a super Bowl team unless you.

884
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 4: This is more on the front office than on the coach.

885
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they don't matter who the coach is

886
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: gonna be. Yeah.

887
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, the front office definite playing big part of this.

888
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 3: All right, before we get out of here, let's pick games.

889
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 3: We've got Thursday night football. Denver is at the La

890
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 3: Charge j J T.

891
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 6: Which gat hey man, Justin Herbert and his coach better

892
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 6: better put a head at the Keister Man. So it's

893
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 6: got to be the Charger tonight if they gonna make

894
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 6: a move.

895
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: I like them. Twenty seven twenty.

896
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 4: Four Rockers are on a four game winning streak, but

897
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 4: this is the kind of team that they haven't beaten.

898
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: Their won in five against teams that are five hundred

899
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 4: or better. But the Chargers have the same flow. So

900
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 4: the Chargers are home. I'm taking Denver. I'm taking Sean

901
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 4: Page here.

902
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 6: I was thinking he was going against his twenty four

903
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 6: or twice, and yet he's twenty four to twenty most trusted.

904
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: I think Denver was living on ball time. I'm taking

905
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: the charges. You don't like bow Nicks?

906
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 4: No, how about bo Derek?

907
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: Got next score? Twenty to fourteen, twenty to fourteen? All right,

908
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: Tampa at Dallas JJ t oh.

909
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 6: Well you know tam Bows is a favorite of mine.

910
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 6: So and they won't leave the show friends. Yeah, but

911
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 6: he'll let me in his locker room. So I'm going

912
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 6: with Tampa Bay.

913
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 4: He'll let you in his locker room.

914
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: That four oh, he's not allowed to cowboys locker room

915
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: in him.

916
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 4: You're not allowed in the cowboy locker room.

917
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: Thanks for those thirty four?

918
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 4: Are you out the games?

919
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: Twenty? Ed what do you have? And I'd like to

920
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: see winners?

921
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 4: There we go. You're gonna be loud here either Edward?

922
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 4: You got, I'll take the bucks. Thirty four, twenty eight got.

923
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: Cooper Rush putting up a couple of touchdowns.

924
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 5: All right, chill, I think this is where it stops.

925
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 5: I think I got the bucks.

926
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 6: Thirty to fourteen the buck stop here they started Mike

927
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 6: Evans going buck wow this weekend like the way I

928
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 6: did that, Jamar.

929
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 3: Chase, but wow, le Jamar Chase type action here, gentlemen,

930
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: this is fun as always. I appreciate you, wasn't it,

931
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 3: Yes chill, don't get us a sponsors, Yes, chill.

932
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 6: At least the locker room pass edwarder SEAQ.

933
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: Tayloris crutch media mash for you, poor guy, merely noise.

934
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