1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Now what's up. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: It's way up with Angela Yee and Josh Pelly is here. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: Josh Pelley Magic is here with us today. I'm excited 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: to have you. 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I'm super excited to be here. 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Okay, you don't sound like it, Oh. 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 3: No, Okay, overwhelmed with emotion. 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: So when our producer Dan was proposing one of the things, 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: he had all these plans of like how he wanted 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: to do it, and one of the things that his 11 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: fiancee loves is magic, and so we had a chance 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: to witness you, you know, doing some magic. And so 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 2: I'm just glad that you're here because I have seen 14 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 2: you all over the place and just for people who 15 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: are listening, like we've seen you just recently. Jayden Smith, 16 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: you did his you did his party. You've done magic 17 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: for a fifty cent which you can't mess that up. 18 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: There's a lot of pressure right there. J Balvin, Mike 19 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: Tyson can't mess that up either. French Montana, Tiffany Hattis, Maya, 20 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: just all of our favorite celebrities. So you know, kudos 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: to you for everything that you've been doing. 22 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. I mean, they're no Angela Yee, but 23 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: they're out there, you know, maybe they'll get there, the 24 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: credentials are coming. It's it's just awesome to be able 25 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 3: to do what I do, perform, you know, make moments 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: for people. I think that a lot of times I 27 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: get asked is magic real? And they're asking me is 28 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: the effects I'm doing real? And I really think that 29 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: the idea should be more on the impact I leave 30 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 3: on people. Is that no matter what you're doing, if 31 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: you're having a bad day, a sad day, a good day, 32 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: two minutes, three minutes, four minutes I have with you, 33 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: you love me, you hate me. That's two three four minutes, 34 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: you're living in the moment, which I think is magic 35 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: on its own. And the fact that I'm able to 36 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: do that to anyone, regardless of circumstance, to me is 37 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: what real magic is. So in that definition, I think 38 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 3: that's the magic I'm able to bring and I hope 39 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: to do it as much as I can. 40 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: And you're also a mentalist, So can you explain for 41 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: people listening you're not just a magician, you're a mentalist. 42 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: What is a mentalist? 43 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, a mentalist. It's definitely something that's trending lately, new 44 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: kind of magic. I would say with magicians, you hear 45 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: things like sleight of hand, which essentially is skills that 46 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: we practice. You get in the lab, you work on 47 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: the routines, and then you go perform them, assuming that 48 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: the trick is based on a slight or a move. Mentalism, 49 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: the easiest way to explain it would be the magic 50 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: of the mind. So it's a type of magic, but 51 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 3: it's more heavily on less necessarily skill based slight hand, 52 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: which it does include, but now I'm also adding in 53 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: a lot of body language psychology, right trying to get 54 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: you to think one way or another, or trying to 55 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: see how you're thinking, and incorporating all of those features. 56 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: So cognitive psychology, human behavior is whatever the word is, 57 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: different biases that there are, and just a little of 58 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: everything there. So it's very more psychological based. It's a 59 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: lot harder when something is psychological. You don't have a 60 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: guarantee that'll work, versus with some magic tricks. It's kind 61 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: of if you do the. 62 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: Move, it'll work. 63 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: If you do it poorly, you'll get caught. That's another story. 64 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it works, which 65 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 3: is one thing. But with mentalism, it's never guaranteed. You 66 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: could be doing the same thing twenty years in a 67 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 3: row and you still never have one hundred percent. You'll 68 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: be pretty lucky, I mean not lucky, but most of 69 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: the time it'll be right. You'll be in the high 70 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: ninety percent of But there's always always room for error 71 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: in that way. 72 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: Now, what's so interesting is for people to understand how 73 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: you got your start. I saw you were traveling to Italy. 74 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: Is that what happened? And started doing med? Like, can 75 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: you tell us how this all started for you? 76 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of the randommest thing people expect to hear, 77 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: you know. They come to me, they say, how long 78 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: have you been doing magic? You must have loved it 79 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: as a kid. You must have bought a kid, you 80 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: must have seen a magician, which is how a lot 81 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: of people start. You see that moment when you're young, 82 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 3: and to some it goes away, they get into other interests. 83 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: To others, they end up doing that as the career. 84 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: And for me, I didn't really have that. I was 85 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: an athlete growing up. I went all the way through 86 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: my career full scholarship, d one soccer player. That was 87 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: one of my life I was going to be a 88 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: pro s well Pale. Yeah, that's where that's where it 89 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: comes from, because the soccer success, that's all I knew, 90 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: that's all I wanted to do. I was going through 91 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: school just to make my parents happy, and as soon 92 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: as I got that degree, I was going to leave, 93 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: leave the country go play pro. Got injured very early 94 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: in my career, like after I graduated, so the pro 95 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 3: career was very short. And then the Italy trip. I 96 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: went to visit a friend. I'm relaxing in my downtime, 97 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: kind of between activities, and there's kind of like there's 98 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: a deck of cards on the table, just what people 99 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: have in their coffee tables. I grab it. I'm playing 100 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: with the cards, just fidgeting, relaxing. I'm tired, jet lagged, 101 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: and an idea comes to my mind. Now I don't 102 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,559 Speaker 3: have context. I don't know if it's a good idea. 103 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's bad. I don't know if 104 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: it's a magic. I don't know what it is. It's 105 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: just something that came to me, and I guess my 106 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: curious nature came out and I just had to try 107 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 3: it on strangers in the streets in a country that 108 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: didn't speak English. But the reactions were really good and 109 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: it was enough for me to come back and make 110 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: a career out of it. So thank God for curiosity. 111 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: Wow, you think that's a divine intervention to be sitting there, 112 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: there's a deck of cards and then just to be like, 113 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to do this in Italy where you don't 114 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: speak Italian and they don't speak English. 115 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really good question. I haven't thought of 116 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: it like that. I think that as I continue my 117 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: career and I see again the impact I make on people. 118 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: And also it's interesting when I meet other people. There's 119 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: a lot of people that I've had, several magicians, several mentalists, 120 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 3: a lot of different experiences from big shows to small 121 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 3: shows that and majority of the time I'm their favorite. 122 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: And that's not you know, it's not to say my 123 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: tricks are better or not. I know a lot of 124 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: people that are much say longer resumes, better skills. I 125 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: think that what separates me is that connection I create 126 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: with people, is that interactiveness, and so that I think 127 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: I've always had that nature to be social, to interact, 128 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: to have an experience with someone, and it definitely multiplies 129 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 3: with adding on to the magic. You know, people love 130 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: me first, and then that as opposed to that magician 131 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 3: was great. Sounds great on paper, right, like if Angela 132 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: yeese like, oh, Dan, that magician was so cool, And 133 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: in a month later you're like Dan, remember that magician 134 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: And Dan's like, yeah, you're so good, Like we should 135 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: bring him somewhere. He's all, how are you gonna find him? 136 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: He's just the magician versus if it's like what Josh 137 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: did was amazing, we got a called now, you know, 138 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: So it's very important for me to always show myself first. 139 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: I'm Josh. You like Josh and you like the magic 140 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: Josh does. So if the name is Josh, later on 141 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: when you need something like that, you call Josh. If 142 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: it's just the magician, you know, that's when I get 143 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: lost in the spreadsheets, the CRMs, the databases, and that. 144 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: Doesn't is it weird? 145 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: Like people might want to hang out, like you know, 146 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: they met you doing magic at an event and then 147 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: they're like what are you doing later? And the next thing, 148 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: you know, like you're going out for drinks, Like how 149 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: does that work? You're social part of it, because like 150 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: you said, people like Josh the person, and then there's 151 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: Jash the magician and they're like, oh, I really you know, 152 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: enjoyed him being there, because a lot of what you 153 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: do is social. 154 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I definitely get cool invites. For example, 155 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: yesterday I was doing a show and it was it 156 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: was New York's longest running magic show. It's called Monday 157 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 3: Night Magic, and that's like a series of a lot 158 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: of performers. So there's a lot of magicians that perform. 159 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: So you come get dinner, you might have like one 160 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: to ten magicians come up to you in that hour 161 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 3: and a half you're eating dinner, and then there's a 162 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: show show that you watch. It's a very long program. 163 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: It's like, Dan, did you go to this? And did 164 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: you know about this? Would you go to this? Yes? 165 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: She was to go yeah, yeah, you guys should go 166 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: and out. Now I'm one of the performers there, so 167 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 3: now I don't mind talking about it. Before I was like, 168 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: don't go there, go to my show. Now I'm part 169 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: of it. And the table yesterday actually they had a 170 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: few magicians at the end. They came up They're like, 171 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: we loved your charisma more than the other people that 172 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: came up to us, and they invited me to go 173 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: play soccer with them this weekend. I could check when 174 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: and where the time, but I get invited to things. 175 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: I think for me and the way it is is 176 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: my business grows from me being myself, so me being 177 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: social always helps. You never know when you go to 178 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: an event, right, anyone could be a client. There could 179 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: be someone that has something for their party coming up, 180 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: someone's engaged, someone's that. There's all kinds of events and 181 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: just being in front of them is very important for me. 182 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: And by going out more, I increase my chances, my leads. 183 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: And then when I do my show is I usually 184 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: get a lot of repeats because of what I'm able 185 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 3: to accomplish in that time. 186 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: With them, and even talking about what you're doing now 187 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: with other magicians present, how competitive is that? Like is 188 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: everybody cool or is it more like Josh ain't all 189 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: that Well. 190 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: There's the people that say, hey, Josh, like I'm like 191 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: thankful that my resume like has like a very big presence. 192 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: You know, someone says Josh and all that, and then 193 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: they see, you know, the names that I performed for 194 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: the TV appearances. Then they kind of they start to 195 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: hold themselves back from comments like that because they probably 196 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: are trying to do things like that, and now they're like, oh, 197 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: but how does he do that. I think when I 198 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: first started, when I came back from Italy, I maybe 199 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: it was the wrong group of magicians but the very 200 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: few that I interacted with at the time weren't very 201 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: open to me wanting to talk magic. I wasn't asking 202 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: them for secrets or how to do tricks. I was 203 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: just interested in just talking, just like a subject. And 204 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: they were very mean to me, and I think that 205 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: kind of threw me away from wanting to meet other magicians. 206 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 3: And I just was like, I'm gonna put my head down, 207 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 3: and I don't like if you tell me I can't 208 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 3: do something, I'm twice as likely going to do it. 209 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: I just love doing stuff when people tell me. Now, 210 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: like people say I can't wait and see you again. Yeah, 211 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: Like if someone if someone says I can do something, 212 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I'll go do it. But if someone 213 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: says I can't, I'm like, oh, I'm really gonna go 214 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: do it. 215 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 216 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 3: And from there, I think because I just put my 217 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: head down and it started grinding, the magic wasn't quite there. 218 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 3: I mean when I got back from my new one 219 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 3: trick but the business side, I'm like, I'm going meet people, 220 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell people I do this, I'm gonna sell myself. 221 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna push myself. And then the accolades, the resumes, 222 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: the videos, the content started coming, and now you know, 223 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: now I want people to be to be close with 224 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 3: because I'm starting to get a point where I'm overbooked, 225 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: and so if I have two shows, I want to 226 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: have friends that I could say, hey, I have a 227 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: really good show for you, and I could send you there. 228 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: And I've started to make a good number of friends, 229 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 3: and I think with this new show too, I'm gonna 230 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: hopefully make some new friends there where we could help 231 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: each other feed. Magicians are not very nice in general. 232 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: It's not a good industry. Everyone's kind of full of themselves. 233 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: It's really easy to remember to think that you're like, 234 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: I don't want to curse, but you're the issue because 235 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: of the impact you do. But at the end of 236 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 3: the day, that's what you're doing. It's the magic tricks 237 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: you're doing. It's not you. And I think a lot 238 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: of magicians let that get to their heads and their 239 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: egos flow and keep growing over time with that, and 240 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 3: I think it's it's just bad because we could all eat. 241 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: There's always going to be more demand than we can supply, 242 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: especially because we're such a specific thing, and so by 243 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: a by, by working together, there's so much growth. So 244 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: I want more magician friends, I want more people. I 245 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: want to help them. I want to get more shows 246 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: where you can do like. 247 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: A TV show in the making already. 248 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: Like yeah, honestly, magicians are like a reality show. It's 249 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: not a very interesting one. Like the drama is just boring. 250 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 3: Like I think people would watch and be like that's 251 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: just so dumb, Like you're kind of lame, but like 252 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: it's just what do you think. 253 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: It's like the ultimate? 254 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: I remember when I was serious, I interviewed Chris Angel 255 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: and that was like a really big deal, you know 256 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 2: when that happened. But like being in Vegas and having 257 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: like like a residency there, what do you think for 258 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: you if you have to think to the future, like 259 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: what what do you want? 260 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good question. And a lot of 261 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: magicians that's their dream to get a residency in Vegas. 262 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: And I perform in Vegas every year I go down there. 263 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: That's one of my residencies. I have Vegas I do 264 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 3: every year. Miami I usually get to do every year. 265 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 3: In Mexico has been one of the last few years 266 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: that I've done. I think that I have a stage show. 267 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 3: You guys haven't seen it, and I'm excited for when 268 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: you do come to see it. But I like doing it. 269 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind a stage show, but I also don't 270 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: know how full time I would want a stage show, like, 271 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 3: I don't want to be limited to a city. For me, 272 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: I love going to Vegas and performing and then coming 273 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: back to New York. 274 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: Is they're the best money? You think in Vegas or 275 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: in my head, it is because I think there. 276 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: I think because of the product you're offering. The money 277 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 3: can be anywhere, you know, Like there's magicians in New 278 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 3: York City that they pay like venues, like thirty thousand 279 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 3: a month in rent just to do their show twice 280 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 3: a week. And they make that much money that they 281 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: can afford like thirty thousands. They're just magicians and they're 282 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: paying thirty thousand in rent a month or like, yeah, 283 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 3: it's about thirty I know another guy I know, he 284 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: has a deal with a hotel. He pays them five 285 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 3: hundred k a year. To run the show on twice a. 286 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: Week, and that is crazy. 287 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: So you can do it in New York. It's really 288 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 3: getting the demand, getting the ticket sales, getting the name. 289 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: I think you could really do it anywhere. It's all 290 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 3: but that again, like the magic stuff, it just comes 291 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 3: down to business. You could be the best magician in 292 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 3: the world, make no money. You could be a terrible magician. Honestly, 293 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: make a couple hundred thousand if you really are good 294 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: at the business aspect. 295 00:11:58,400 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: Who's been the most fun? 296 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: Like, I know people probably ask you this all the time, 297 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: but like, what are some memorable experiences that you had, 298 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: because you've done a lot of private events. 299 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think some moments to stick out to me. 300 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: Jade and Smith the first time I've did it, two 301 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: birthdays of his that were about a year apart. The 302 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 3: first one was cool because in the video he like 303 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: he's freaking out so much that he's like smacking the 304 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 3: guy next to him, which is the security guard of 305 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: the club. And that security guard ended up becoming one 306 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 3: of my really close friends. And I did like his 307 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: sister's His sister had a baby. I did their shower, 308 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 3: so it's kind of cool, like we connected over that moment, 309 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: like I freaked out a celebrity and he got to 310 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 3: be the person that got smacked by the celebrity, which 311 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: is I mean to some people, that's a very cool moment, 312 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: like Jade Smith was smacking me, not you. That stands 313 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 3: out to me. Performing for you stood out, which is 314 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: full well it did because because of the timing, because 315 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: randomly I'd done Mano before and when I saw you 316 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: guys talk about me the next week, that was just 317 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: a cool thing to like just randomly wake up to 318 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 3: you Like Dan's like, hey, we talked about in the 319 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: show and I'm like, yeah, what are you're saying? And 320 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: I was like wait, this is like amazing because I 321 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: you know, I I don't know like how many of 322 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: my friends, like a lot of my friends love you, 323 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 3: but I don't know how much of the people throughout 324 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: my life. And I had people like from high school, 325 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 3: like I haven't talked to them in years cause I 326 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 3: haven't really seen them in high school. They're like Angela 327 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,599 Speaker 3: yee saying that's insane. And I'm getting text from like 328 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: high school people because angelaie like Eve like my magic 329 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 3: and I was like that's just a cool thing, like 330 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: I haven't had anyone. I didn't have anyone. I don't 331 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: think I've had anyone from high school. TXT me about 332 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: any of the other names like that. So that's that's 333 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 3: a unique one we're talking about. Yeah, another one would 334 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: be Saquon Barkley's huge right now. I have a video 335 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 3: of him saying Josh is the best magician there is 336 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: and that's right after I did a trick for him 337 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: and his mother. 338 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: That's why them of the magicians don't like you. 339 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if they've seen that click yet, but 340 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: that one was good because it was It was a 341 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: great trick. It's one of my best ones. I think 342 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 3: it gets a really powerful impact. And you know I 343 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: did that with him in front of I did it 344 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 3: for his mother, So not only is it a good trick, 345 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 3: I'm doing it for his mom. And he literally stood 346 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: up and ran away if he walked away, and then 347 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 3: he came back and with all of his success, congrats 348 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 3: to him. You know, that's always a good clip, right 349 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 3: when with magic, it's like if someone that you perform 350 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: for is doing really well, you could repurpose that content. 351 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: If I have a video that's old with someone and 352 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: I repost it when they do something right. If you 353 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: or UFC fighter and they win the belt, I post 354 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: a video perfect time, if it's their birthday, if they 355 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: start a new show, if they do like a really 356 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 3: big achievement like going the way up show, like that's 357 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: something worth posting. 358 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm so good at this. 359 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: I have one more question too, and before we get 360 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: into some tricks. Yes, do you think anybody can do magic? 361 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: Can anybody learn it? Or is it something that you 362 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: feel like you know because we've we've all seen tricks 363 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: go wrong too, and I'm sure there's people who have 364 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: tried it and they just gave up. Do you think 365 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: that it's something that anyone can actually become good at? 366 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I firmly believe anyone could be a magician, because 367 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: I think there's a big distinction between a magician or 368 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: what I do. Because I'm a full time magician. To 369 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: do magic full time, that's a wholeness, but that doesn't 370 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: come down to the nitty gritty of the magic. That 371 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: comes down to everything else, the networking, the business, to 372 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: selling yourself on a very hard product to sell. It's 373 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: not the most straightforward. 374 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: Thing, like how do you get even started? I'm sure 375 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: if anybody wanted to do it. 376 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: It's like where do I Yeah, where do I start? 377 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: How do I get shows? How to? 378 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: And like you said, it's not easy to get like 379 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: a mentor in the business. 380 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: And then it's also like you know, when you first 381 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: getting started, you tell people what you do, you're a magician. 382 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: They're going to ask you, Okay, what if I hire you? 383 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: What are you going to do? You don't know, like 384 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: how do you explain what you do or how? It's 385 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: not the most trivial thing, but in terms of doing tricks, 386 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: I think that in my mind, if someone knows a trick, 387 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: they're a magician. If you asked me to teach you 388 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: a card trick and you learn it and you can 389 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: go do it to your wife, your husband, your friends, 390 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: you're a magician. 391 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: We can put that in our bio exactly. 392 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well you are already a magician, but we're 393 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: going to add to your your. 394 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: Toolkit and okay, well let's let's I want there to 395 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: be because I know we're on the radio, so we 396 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: want to make sure that there's some things we can 397 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: do that are visual. But I want to do something 398 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: also that people listening can follow along. 399 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think today. We have two tricks. We have 400 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: something mind reading into the mentalism, and then we have 401 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: a very fun, magic tricky. Cool thing about this magic 402 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: trick is that everyone back home listening can follow along. 403 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: So if you're listening right now and you have a 404 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: deck of cards on you, take a moment and grab them. 405 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: We're going to start with the other tricks. You don't 406 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: have to worry, but have a deck ready because this 407 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: is going to be a fun trick for you all later. 408 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: But before we do that, we're going to get into 409 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 3: a little mind reading mentalism. Okay, and not many people do, 410 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: but I do have what women want an envelope that 411 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: I brought today, And for the people that can't see, 412 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to literally dictate it's a white envelope that 413 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: says gift, and this is literally a gift for you. 414 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: And sometimes when we're doing mind reading, we want to 415 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: set that tone, we want to set that imagery up. 416 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: So everything I'm going to be saying, a lot of 417 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: people can at least picture it at home. They don't 418 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: need to necessarily be in the room with us. So 419 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 3: I want you to imagine you're going to go to 420 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: look at daily test like a grocery store. Can you 421 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: imagine yourself driving to that grocery store, okay, whatever clothes 422 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: you might wear, whatever car you might dry, whatever, maybe 423 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 3: trinkets you have in the car. Sometimes people have, like 424 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: the air fresheners and the keychains hanging. I don't know 425 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 3: if the word, but you can kind of see all 426 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: the little things that describe you. How you customize your 427 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: car driving to that grocery store, okay, and imagine how 428 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: long that trip is, whether it's a short trip you're 429 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 3: in and out or maybe a little bit of a drive, 430 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 3: depending on where you live. You park your car. It's 431 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 3: a good day, sun is out, it's great. Whether you 432 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 3: have a spot right in the beginning, so you're happy, 433 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: you're ready off to a good start. You get out, 434 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: you go into that grocery store and you're shopping around 435 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: and you're buying maybe food that you like, maybe things 436 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: that you have on your list, maybe things you want 437 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: to try, something new. And then you're gonna go to 438 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: the candy section. You have a sweet tooth this day, 439 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 3: and you don't feel like cookies or chocolate. You want 440 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: like some kind of candy, and can we fruity? Maybe 441 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 3: something fruity you have chocolate or fruity, and you're looking 442 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 3: through the candy store, and I want you to visualize 443 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: as you're looking at that aisle buying an item. Can 444 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: you see that aisle and you see how many options 445 00:17:58,880 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 3: are there? 446 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: Probably hmmm, I'm trying to think what would I want? Okay, gotcha? 447 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: And you remember that item? Okay, and you're gonna pick 448 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: it up and you're gonna buy it. Hey, Now what 449 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have you do. I'm gonna have you close 450 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: your eyes for a moment, so I want you to 451 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: visualize it. So I'm gonna take out the gifts so 452 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 3: she doesn't see. And you picked up that item. Okay. 453 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: On the count of three, you're gonna open your eyes 454 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: and say that item that you bought. Okay, okay, one, two, three. 455 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: Nerds Gummy cluster. 456 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 3: Nerds to everyone back home. I have Nerds gummy clusters. 457 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 3: So you see Nerds gummy clusters. That's good. But we 458 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 3: also have here for those that don't see what I have, 459 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: I have ASMR. We have these m and ms. These 460 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 3: m and ms are for you in a moment, and 461 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: remember you're going through You're getting Nerds gummy cluster. Is 462 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: that your favorite candy. 463 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: No, it just was what I felt like. 464 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: Okay, great, so you'll feel that, you'll grab that. What 465 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 3: other stuff might you grab? 466 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: Candy or things? 467 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: Other things? Anything? 468 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: Oh? I probably get some ginger beer. 469 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 3: Ginger beer good? 470 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: Okay? What else would I get from the supermarket? Oh? 471 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 2: Fresh ginger because I love that. And I have a 472 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 2: juicer at home right now, good and. 473 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: Some good things. Juicer is good, fresh stuff. Now again, 474 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 3: we were looking through with Dan earlier, were saying we 475 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 3: need to buy a gift as well. Dan, with me earlier, 476 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: had these gifts with you. Do you remember your other gift? 477 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 2: My other gift, the gift that you needed to remember 478 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: you have a gift. 479 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, there's one more gift for the audience back home. 480 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: Angela picked another gift to add on to the gummy 481 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 3: clusters and the ginger and that and what was the gift? 482 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: Say it it was? 483 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: I think it was Swedish fish. 484 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 3: Eminem's. I'm holding eminems, she said, Eminem's. That's autocorrect. I'm 485 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 3: sorry it was Swedish fish. 486 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: I think so. 487 00:19:54,920 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we can read now, I'm kidding Swedish fish. 488 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 3: Do you like Swedish fish? 489 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: Not really, but it's what I picked on. 490 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 3: The Okay, could you cut your hands for me? Do 491 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 3: you like Eminems? Though? Yeah, that's what I'm going to do. 492 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to rip the m and ms and I'm 493 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: going to pour in the Swedish fish in the m 494 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: and ms. For those back home, we had Swedish fish 495 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: in the m and ms. 496 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: Can I eat these? 497 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 3: Yes? 498 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: You know what's crazy? I also want to know how 499 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: did you manage to have that packaging so it looked 500 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: like a fresh pack of Eminem's. It's an Eminem's package. 501 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: But when he opened it, all the Swedish fish poured out. 502 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: And before we started, he asked me to choose a number. 503 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: I choose a random, random. 504 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: Number and the number I chose was sixty three and 505 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: I was a completely random number. 506 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: And it says sweetish fish next to that number. And 507 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: here they are. I feel like, if I eat this, 508 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: it's good luck? Is it? 509 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 3: That's what Dan would say? 510 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: Is it Dan? 511 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 3: He said it. 512 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: They're fresh too and nice and chewed. Did not the 513 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: stale taste in one The only only amazing. I'm not 514 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: gonna lie because I was like, it's not looking good. 515 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. Now we get the fun part 516 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 3: the audience is on their toes. I've got some mind red. 517 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: So now we're going to do a trick where everyone 518 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: back home, hopefully you have your deck of cards can 519 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: join us. Okay, Angela, I have a deck of cards 520 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 3: for you, and I'm also holding a deck of cards. 521 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 3: Now for you, I made it easier. I sorted them 522 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 3: in pairs. Okay, And for anyone back home, all you're 523 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 3: gonna have to do is grab four pairs of cards. 524 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 3: So for example, a pair would be like a two 525 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: of hearts and a two of diamonds. Because they're red. 526 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: You could choose any four pairs you like, and you 527 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: could just drop them onto the table. So everyone back home, 528 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 3: whatever four. 529 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: Pairs you like, you know, I gott to pick the queen. 530 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 3: Yes, can't pick yourself, but will allow it this time. 531 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: And everyone back home, once you have your parents, split 532 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: them apart. So for me, I'll make an easy example. 533 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 3: I'm using ace two three four, and I'm using the 534 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 3: other color, the same color, so the hearts and the 535 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 3: diamonds the two, three and four, So you'd want to 536 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 3: split those up. So one pile ace two three four, 537 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: and then the other pile would be the opposite the pairs. Yes, 538 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 3: just like that. So once you have your pairs split up, 539 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 3: you can take one one pile, so Ace two, three four, 540 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 3: and you could organize it any way you like, so 541 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 3: however you want to, but make sure you can see 542 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 3: that order. Okay, yep, okay, you want to do it 543 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 3: in that exact order, So just like that. 544 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: Great, maybe I can switch it up. 545 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: You can switch it up, so that's gonna be there. 546 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: When you have one pile in a specific order, make 547 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 3: sure that the other four cards the pairs are in 548 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: that same order. So match that up as well. 549 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: Hope I'm being a good student. 550 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: You are, as long as they're the same. So in 551 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 3: your case, you have Jack two, Queen four and then 552 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 3: Jack to and you could square up those two piles. Okay, right, 553 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: and everyone back home, hopefully you're following, and you can 554 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 3: put either one on the other, put one on top 555 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: of the other, doesn't matter which one. Now you could 556 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 3: pick that up as well. For those of you back home. 557 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 3: There's this thing in cards or casinos called cutting the cards. 558 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: Are you familiar with cutting the car? So what do 559 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: you do? You hold it like this in a dealer's grip, 560 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: and you could take a chunk of cards and you 561 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: can put them to the bottom and just just like that. 562 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 3: That's how we're gonna cut. So you can do as 563 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 3: many cuts as you like, taking a chunk from the 564 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 3: top and putting them in the bottom. Do not shuffler mix. 565 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 3: We're just doing clean cuts. 566 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: Perfect okay. 567 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: Great. Now what we're gonna do. We're gonna take the 568 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 3: top card and we're gonna put it on the bottom. 569 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: Okay, very good. 570 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: Now the next one, we're gonna take the top two cards. 571 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 3: We're gonna hold them as one, and we're gonna put 572 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: them to the bottom. 573 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: Okay. 574 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: Great. Now we're gonna take the top three cards three okay, 575 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: hold them as one hip square that up, okay, and 576 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: you can put them anywhere in the middle anywhere you want, 577 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: just like that. Great, And now that top card, leave 578 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: it aside. That'll be our card forli Great. Now, what 579 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: we're gonna do this is your choice. You could choose 580 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 3: one card, two cards, or three from the top and 581 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 3: that'll be in one pile again okay, and you can 582 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: make sure they stay together. You can put them anywhere 583 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: in the middle, just like that. Good. Now, that top 584 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 3: card you can replace it with a card in the deck. 585 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: So the top card in your hand, you can move 586 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 3: it aside, okay, and you can grab another card from 587 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 3: the deck from your deck right there deck. Yeah, the 588 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 3: cards that were in play, and you just take a 589 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 3: random one and put that on top. Hopefully we didn't 590 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: get rid of your partner. Now that we've done that again, 591 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 3: this will be your choice. You can do one card, 592 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 3: two card, or three cards from the top, however many 593 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 3: you like, and just put them away. We don't want them, 594 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: put them put them away somewhere. We'll grab that now. 595 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 3: This is a trick about pairs. And Valentine's Day was 596 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 3: recently Ten's Days about love and romance. So we're gonna 597 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: do this. We're gonna take the top card and put 598 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 3: it to the bottom as we spell romance. So what 599 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 3: I mean by that is the top card, we put 600 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: it to the bottom, and that'll be the R, and 601 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: then the next card will be the O, and then 602 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: the M, and then the A, then the N, then 603 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 3: the C and then the EA. You're kind of forming 604 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 3: this romance and hopefully back home you're falling along now again, partners, 605 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 3: and Valentine's is about romance. It's about love and maybe 606 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 3: for those younger audiences. You might not know this game, 607 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 3: but there's a game called she loves Me. With the 608 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 3: rose petals you pluck them saying she loves me, she 609 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: loves me. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna 610 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: play that game. When it's she loves me, we put 611 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: it to the bottom, and if she loves me not, 612 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: we get it rid of it. So we'll start so 613 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: she loves me, the top card goes to the bottom. Okay, 614 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 3: she loves me not. We just take the next top 615 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 3: card and put it away, and then we keep going 616 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 3: she loves me, she loves me, not she loves me, 617 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 3: she loves me, not card she loves me, she loves 618 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 3: me not. Well, because we did random number of cards 619 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: it was one, two or three, so everyone might run 620 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 3: out earlier or okay, later, but once you keep going 621 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 3: through she loves me, she loves me not. Once you 622 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: have one card left, you just leave it with your pile, 623 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: and on the count of three, everyone will turn their 624 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 3: cards over. One, two, three, We have a perfect pair. Amazing, 625 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 3: and everyone back home. Whether you did lesser and more cards, 626 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 3: you should also have a pair. 627 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: Now, how were people supposed to follow along and do that? Trick. 628 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: Well, well, I was very clear it's in the in 629 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 3: the tricks. 630 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: No, but I mean like this will work for anybody. 631 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 3: They will work for anyone. If you take your cards 632 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 3: and you listen to what I say, then you'll do it. 633 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 3: So again, what we did was we had the four pairs, 634 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 3: so we split up the pairs. So two pile is 635 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 3: basically the same, right my use my example, ace two 636 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: three four, So I had one two three four. That 637 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 3: was the order I wanted the first pile. So make 638 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 3: sure your other pile matches one two, three four and square. 639 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: Both piles up and then you can put them on top. 640 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: So my cards meshed what your cards were doing. Also, 641 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: you in the beginning. 642 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: In the beginning, the two pairs are in the same order. 643 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 3: So in the first group before your four was the 644 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 3: second card. The second group before it's also the second card. 645 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: I want to make sure people do it right. You 646 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: also have to know how to spell romance. 647 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 3: Yes, but we did it. We did it. We did 648 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 3: it together. So when you play it back, just just listen, 649 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 3: listen and follow along and you'll see each step that 650 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 3: we did. 651 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 652 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 3: The only things everyone might be different is at the 653 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: beginning when we were cutting the cards, you might cut once, 654 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 3: someone else might cut a few times, it doesn't matter. 655 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 3: Then the next step we took a card. Everyone followed along. 656 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: Then we did two, everyone fall along, then three. Then 657 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: I gave choices. So that's why we were off because 658 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: I said you could do one, two, or three cards. 659 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 2: So if you did that, thought I messed up. I 660 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: don't even understand how this works, you know what I mean? Like, 661 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: I know people are like, how does that even happen? 662 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: And the second question I have is can you gamble that? 663 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: And are you able to? Like? 664 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: Are you good at doing that? 665 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: Ends on how good my disguise is on the deck. 666 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: Because it feels like I don't know is counting cards 667 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 2: part of this or a. 668 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 3: Counting cards is not part of this? But gambling it's 669 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 3: legal to account cards. You just don't want to be 670 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 3: making too much money. Well it's legal, so you can 671 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 3: do it. 672 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: But they can. 673 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 3: They can. It is their choice. They could, they could 674 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 3: warn you, they could ban you, or they could do 675 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 3: other things. 676 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: That's crazy. I don't even understand how that worked. I'm 677 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: going to have to do some research, you know, me chat, GPT. 678 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: Why did this work? 679 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: Yes? Well, we had a perfect match for you with 680 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 3: me and anyone that followed along. If it didn't work 681 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: for you, you're just bad at listening to instructions. 682 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: Can I look at the other card? 683 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: Yes you can, those were the ones you used. 684 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, this looks real. 685 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 3: Yes, you could do this with any cards, anyone, back home, whatever, 686 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: even if you you know, sometimes I get calls and 687 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: people say, hey, can you do a trick on FaceTime? 688 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: I'm like sure, and I asked them do you have 689 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: a deck of cards? And sometimes people tell me I 690 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: don't have any cards. I have Uno cards. If you 691 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: have Uno cards, you could also do this trick follow 692 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: along the same way. Again, your pairs have to match, 693 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: so if you picked a reverse, then the pair would 694 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: be the reverse. If you picked a two, the pair 695 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 3: would be the two. So any deck of cards, Uno cards, 696 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 3: playing cards, if you have other card games where you 697 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 3: could make pairs, this trick will also work for you. 698 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: Geesh, this is amazing. 699 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: Thank you. 700 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know how that worked, but. 701 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: You know, how is it when like you're an event 702 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: and people are sometimes can be a little drunk and 703 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: rambunctious while you're trying, and you know, what I mean, like, 704 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: has that ever been an issue? 705 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you have those groups and you just 706 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: kind of make sure you don't do that person privately, 707 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't want the drunk rambunction of person one 708 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: on one, but two, one, three, one four. 709 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: One everybody does can calm it down. 710 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. But a lot of times, you know, the 711 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: drunk person at first, it's just their drunkness acting, it's 712 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 3: not them, and so when they see the trick or 713 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 3: when they're amazed, they're suddenly a big raver. Like I've 714 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 3: had it be like the case where you know, i 715 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: might be leaving a club and I'm talking to the 716 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 3: dormant because he's my friend. I'm saying hi, and you 717 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 3: know this group, but like maybe like two girls and 718 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: a guy will come out and they're friends with the dormant, 719 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, show them something before they leave. 720 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: And this happened to me about a week and a 721 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 3: half ago, but this does happen a lot. And I 722 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: don't know the guy. I don't know these two girls, 723 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 3: but I'm showing them a trick and guys like she's married, 724 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: she's what I'm like, And the dorman is like just 725 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 3: relaxed bro like yeah, because he knows that they're not random. 726 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, just let me do the trick. 727 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 3: He's like, well no, no, no, she's gotta go. And there 728 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: the girls are like just let him do the thing. 729 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 3: And I do the trick. It's amazing, like do a 730 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 3: do it? Trying to tell the guy to watch a 731 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 3: trick and he's like, nah, I don't want to, blah 732 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: blah blah. And then he does a trick and then 733 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 3: he does the trick and he's like, did you see that? 734 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 3: Do it again? Do it now? He's like five minutes later, 735 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 3: he's like he wants to stay. He doesn't want to 736 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 3: go with, he doesn't want them to leave. He's like, 737 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 3: let's do more. Like it's not the person per se, 738 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: it's just that's just how magic is perceived. There's not 739 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 3: really a frame of reference for magic, and there's no 740 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 3: such thing as what's good magic, what's bad magic? What 741 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 3: is magic? Like I said, if I come up to 742 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: you and I say, hey, I'm a magician, I don't 743 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: really know what that means. People usually seen tiktoks or 744 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 3: TV or you know. 745 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: Editing like where's my wallet? 746 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that one that one gotta be more sneaky on Yeah, 747 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: you just got to show them. I think that's what 748 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: I do is I show it very well that what 749 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 3: I'm doing is not whatever you think magic is. And 750 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 3: I actually never say I'm a magician. That's my whole 751 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 3: thing is when I approach someone, I just do it, 752 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 3: and by the time it's done and you've put the 753 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: two and two together, you realize that what I did 754 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 3: is fun. It's not whatever would have went in your 755 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 3: head if I had just set I'm a magician, because 756 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: that way I get a lot more rejections. 757 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: And one last thing I want to ask you, are 758 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: there new tricks that you come up with or are 759 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: there things that you learned that already exists, or what's 760 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: the combination? 761 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: Like how do you look everything? 762 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 3: I like to create. I always create new stuff, especially 763 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: you know, if as I'm growing my brand right now 764 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: and I'm doing a lot of stuff like this, like 765 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: you know, I wouldn't want to be doing the same 766 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 3: tricks on radio and podcasts and TV. I also don't 767 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 3: want to be doing my generic ones. I also don't 768 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 3: want to be doing ones I always do, so I 769 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 3: try to come up with something cool, something fun, something 770 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,479 Speaker 3: that would really enjoy for the team. I come up 771 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: with well stuff, I tweak old things, things, I add 772 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 3: in things at times like I might be impromptu, you know, 773 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 3: like yesterday, I have a trick that's one of my 774 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 3: regulars is where I make the cards disappear. And I'm 775 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: going around a room when I'm doing that trick, and 776 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: then I this one girl just had her phone so open. 777 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 3: I stole it and then I pulled it out of 778 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: her friend's here as a joke. I was like, hey, 779 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 3: look behind her ear, and they're thinking I'm joking. I'm like, oh, 780 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: it's your phone. And then I'm doing the trick. And 781 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: then I took and then and I really just do 782 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 3: that as a joke, but this time I took it 783 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 3: again and I was like, oh, look it's back there. 784 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: So then from my mind was like when I got 785 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 3: to the point where I'm doing a trick where the 786 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 3: cards disappeared, I was like, what if I take her 787 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: phone a third time? Because now I can make a 788 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: joke like do you know where they went? And they're like, no, 789 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 3: where are the cards? And they point to her like, 790 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 3: oh are they behind there? I'm like, yeah, oh no, 791 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: it's your phone again and like, wait what? So I 792 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 3: threw in like a little gag a joke into that trick, 793 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: which made it a new trick. It's fun. I'm not 794 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 3: necessarily gonna be doing it that way all the time, 795 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 3: but it was fun. 796 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: It's kind of like being a stand up. Yeah, like 797 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: you adapted the crowd. 798 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 3: I think my magic's very you know, the equivalent of 799 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 3: like crowd work and common would be what I do. 800 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 3: I'm very imprompt too. I don't plan a lot of 801 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: my things. I don't know what I'm going to do 802 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 3: or say. I might know the tricks, I don't know 803 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 3: how I'm going to present them. I feel it for 804 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 3: the crowd. Younger crowds that might be more jokes, more flirty, 805 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: older crowds that might be straight to the point or 806 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 3: less talking. Maybe they can't hear, or maybe they just 807 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 3: wouldn't understand if I'm joking. So I just wanted a confusion. 808 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw the mom where it turns into a 809 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 2: goldfish where you. 810 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one said I'm the best for it. 811 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 3: Oh wow, he ran away. 812 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: He ran away for that? What happens to the goldfish. 813 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: I have an aquarium at home, so I have a tank. 814 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: People are like, oh, that's in I'm like, he's a 815 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 3: he works for me, he's ten ninety nine. You know, 816 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 3: we're good. 817 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: You know what, since we said stand up comedy, what 818 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 2: about stealing tricks? I know that's a thing with comedians 819 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: where people steal jokes, but what about stealing tricks? 820 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you're going to see overlap with that depends 821 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 3: I think that if you're going to steal a trick, 822 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: it depends on what the trick is, because in magic, 823 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 3: it's really hard to prove something's yours. It's almost impossible. 824 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: Like if I create a trick and then you steal it, 825 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 3: it's almost impossible for me to sue you because it's very, 826 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 3: very hard to prove that that trick is originally mine. 827 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 3: The intellectual property on a magic trick, it's there's only 828 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 3: like one case in history of magic tricks someone winning 829 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 3: an IP claim, and it's very difficult because everything does 830 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 3: come down to the fact that the basics, like the 831 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 3: very fundamentals of it, goes back hundreds of thousands, if 832 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 3: not thousands years. 833 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: Magic is very old, been around forever. 834 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 2: It's kind of like something that, like you said, no 835 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: matter what language you speak, even if you don't speak 836 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 2: a language. It's something that people can like look and 837 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: still be in awe of, even if they can't understand 838 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: what you're saying. 839 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And they're even like some people their whole 840 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 3: job is their magic inventors, which means they're magicians that 841 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 3: they don't perform. They like they're very creative people. They 842 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 3: create magic tricks and then sell them to other magicians. 843 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: They're like, I created this, buy it for me for 844 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 3: this price, and you could have it. You could have 845 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: the trick and how it works and all the instant 846 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 3: and like some of these are really good magicians flock 847 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 3: to it, and so you might find a lot of 848 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 3: magicians doing the same trick. Sometimes it's just a trick 849 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 3: that's historic, everyone knows it. Sometimes it's that's just the 850 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 3: hottest thing on the market. Magicians are terrible window shoppers. 851 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 3: Like you bring a magician to like a convention, and 852 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 3: they're going to spend so much money on tricks because 853 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 3: the idea is like, oh, this is so good, I'm good, 854 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 3: I love this trick, I'm going to use it. I'm 855 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 3: going to do it. And then you have a bookshelf 856 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 3: of tricks that you haven't even opened, Like they're in 857 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 3: the box, you've never even touched them. You get this, 858 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 3: which is why I stay away from magic shops and 859 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 3: as much as I can, I sometimes need to if 860 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 3: I need refills or stuff. But that's why I prefer 861 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 3: to make my own stuff, because I will go down 862 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 3: a very bad spending spree and I don't have the 863 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 3: space for all these things. Like I see things, I'm like, 864 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 3: this is so good, this is great, but this much 865 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 3: money and I'm probably not going to use it for 866 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 3: a year. I don't. I don't know even if I 867 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: use it a month from now, that's already not. 868 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: Who would have ever thought of all this? 869 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 2: And who would have ever thought you would have went 870 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: from playing professional soccer to being a magician and a mentalist. 871 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 3: I literally spent my whole life and my family making 872 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 3: their whole lives. 873 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: Catered around because that's not easy. 874 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 3: Well, my whole life went and like the whole family 875 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 3: was completely invested in everything they did to train and 876 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 3: prepare my legs for me to end up having a 877 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 3: career that's very focused on my hands. I'd never honed 878 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 3: in on football or basketball, or baseball or lacrosse, Like 879 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 3: no handsports. It was soccer only. Everything every all the 880 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 3: money we had was spent towards training and programs and diets. 881 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 3: And then now I make money with it. 882 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: What did they think when you first told them this 883 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: is what I'm doing. 884 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 3: Well, it was right before COVID, so as the interest peak, 885 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 3: COVID hit. So now I'm in my house just spending 886 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 3: all day doing like random stuff. The only thing I 887 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 3: really could do is like social media work. Now I 888 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 3: do virtual shows and I you know, I have companies 889 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 3: call me when they have like, you know, say, a 890 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 3: team where some of the people are scattered, a zoom 891 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 3: call and I do a full show virtual magic. I 892 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 3: mean radio stuff is the hardest magic for sure because 893 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 3: the visual plays a pack. 894 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: But I mean, but we do have a YouTube channel 895 00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: way up. 896 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 3: With you, so you could yeah, and I think that, 897 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 3: you know. Then I was just doing all this stuff 898 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 3: and my parents like, why are you wasting your time? 899 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 3: Like there's nothing that I don't really have anything else 900 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 3: to do. It's COVID, Like what am I gonna do? Right? 901 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 3: But they're like, why are you wasting your time? 902 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: This and not. 903 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 3: But then the checks started coming in, and then they 904 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 3: started getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and now they 905 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 3: just they just they just they just don't even ask. 906 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: Well, it looks like the cards lined up. 907 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 3: Well, it's always good. My job's easy. No, my job's easy. 908 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 3: You see. I get all the credit. But you're the magician. 909 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 3: You did that yourself. I didn't touch your cards. You 910 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 3: did the trick. It worked, so I basically took credit 911 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 3: for all your magic. So thank you for that. 912 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: You're a good mentalist. Well, thank you so much. And 913 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: how can people follow you? 914 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 3: You can find me. I'm Josh palet Magic, Josh P. 915 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 3: E l E. Magic. You can find my website Josh 916 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 3: Palemagic dot com. You can find my instagram, my YouTube, 917 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 3: and you could watch this show on YouTube because you're 918 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 3: definitely gonna want to watch it back and try the 919 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 3: trick with your family, your friends and anyone else and maians. 920 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 3: And then when you go on a date for anyone 921 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 3: that's single and you show them this trick, you'll probably 922 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 3: get a second. 923 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: So unless you don't follow directions. 924 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 3: Unless you do, but if you don't follow directions, it's 925 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 3: very unlikely someone would want and second day. Anyway, that's 926 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 3: a whole other new ones. 927 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you so much. It's way up 928 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 2: at Angela y Josh Pelly Magic 929 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 3: Way Up.