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Speaker 1: If you try something on and you don't fit in it,

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Speaker 2: More Better, More, a little bit more better, More.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to More Better, a podcast where we stop pretending

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Speaker 3: to have it all together and embrace the journey of

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Speaker 3: becoming a little more better every day. I mean, we're trying,

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Speaker 3: we're trying to do it. That is most of a marrow,

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Speaker 3: and that is Stephanie Beatrice. And here we are.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back. We're not maybe this is the first one

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Speaker 4: you've ever listened to.

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Speaker 5: Welcome, Welcome, Hey man, how are you? Hey, dude, I'm good.

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Speaker 5: How are you a man?

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Speaker 3: I'm surviving, not thriving exactly. Guess what I'm doing? All right?

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Speaker 3: Have you done anything that's a little more better lately?

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm be honest, not much, not much.

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Speaker 3: We're just we're we're just trying to keep a baseline

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Speaker 3: over here or okay, a baseline of okay, I get it,

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Speaker 3: and then we will attempt to do some more better things.

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Speaker 3: How about you? Have you done anything lately more better?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 4: I've been trying this thing where when I go my

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Speaker 4: I do have a walking closet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you do, like you got right dream about your closet.

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Speaker 1: But when I go in the walking closet, I need

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Speaker 1: to put something that's on the floor back on a hangar.

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Speaker 3: I'm a notorious like does this work?

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Speaker 4: Does this work?

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Speaker 3: Does this work? And then I leave it all on

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Speaker 3: the floor.

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Speaker 1: So consequently there's a huge pile of clean clothes on

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Speaker 1: the floor in the closet. They don't stay clean for

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Speaker 1: long though, because they're on the floor. So what I'm

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Speaker 3: That's a good, more better thing.

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Speaker 4: It's going okay.

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Speaker 3: It's like it has to be one thing before I

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Speaker 3: leave the closet, yeah, because otherwise it just gets really overwhelming.

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Speaker 3: And then I'm like, I hate my life. And I

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Speaker 3: don't hate my life. I just know I don't have

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Speaker 3: a good habit of cleaning up after myself. So and

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Speaker 3: if you just say one thing, then you're more likely

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Speaker 3: to just do the one. Keep the practice. The bare minimum, babe,

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Speaker 3: The bare minimum just established the baseline. Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: we're doing fine. We're doing fine, more better, speaking of closets,

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Speaker 3: Speaking of closets, this is an exciting episode because we

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Speaker 3: have a guest. Yeah. Man, we don't always have guests,

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Speaker 3: but we have a guest today. Yeah, we do, and

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Speaker 3: I'm really excited about it.

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Speaker 1: Today's discussion is about finding your authentic style. And we

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Speaker 1: have a guest because we're not experts at this, but

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Speaker 1: we know somebody who is. It's our mutual stylist on

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Speaker 1: our guest, Oriol Tunnel.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: YEAHI hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, Iol.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: We're so happy that you're here.

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Speaker 1: Oriel is a Los Angeles space stylist and costume designer

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Speaker 1: who originally hails from Oklahoma, Oklahoma.

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Speaker 6: Oklahoma, Right, Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: But then you went to school for television and film

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Speaker 3: and then you sort of like transitioned into being in.

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Speaker 1: Costumes and then in the styling industry.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 6: I definitely have dabbled in a lot of things I do,

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Speaker 6: like stage design and dancers and costumes for tours and

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Speaker 6: pop stars, but also doing TV with kids and Christmas

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Speaker 6: costumes to doing what I do more of now, which

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Speaker 6: is red carpet and celebrity and you lovely ladies are

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's so nice.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I love it. I love all of you guys.

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Speaker 6: It's so fun.

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Speaker 4: It is really fun. I do. I enjoy styling sessions.

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Speaker 4: I enjoy getting dressed.

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Speaker 1: Listen, because you guys are listening to this, just know

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Speaker 1: that I haven't washed my hair in like five days.

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing like a vintage crappy T shirt jeans.

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Speaker 3: It definitely don't fit.

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Speaker 1: Some glasses that I popped the lenses out of. They

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Speaker 3: She's under selling how cute she looks. But I'm not

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Speaker 3: I love fashion. It's so fun and I love our

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's definitely a job. It's definitely work,

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Speaker 6: you know. I think that's a big misconceptionist. People think

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Speaker 6: But there's a lot that goes into it, and it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is a lot of work. And just

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Speaker 3: for contexts, I wanted to add, since Stephanie does love

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Speaker 3: good at it. I'm the type of person I walk

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Speaker 4: We're very different, very different clients.

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Speaker 6: I do love fashion and I appreciate it, but Melissa

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Speaker 6: approaches it from a very practical point of view. Yes,

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Speaker 6: Sevani is like, how much more can we try on?

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Speaker 6: Because look at all these beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Clothes, you know, the fantasy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And those fittings are fun. You make those fittings

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Speaker 3: very fun, that's right.

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Speaker 1: The other thing about is like fashion it really has

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Speaker 3: It's like personal expression of self.

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Speaker 6: Yes, And then I would also say that this stuff

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Speaker 6: filing relationship is so intimate because you're unpacking your insecurities,

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Speaker 6: when you're naked in front of strangers or not strangers,

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Speaker 6: I'm super lucky like you, the two of you guys,

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Speaker 6: we've become good friends and like, I love our working relationship,

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Speaker 6: but they're also professional relationships. Yeah, it's a business, you know,

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Speaker 6: so I do think that, Yeah, like it's not always

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Speaker 3: Yes, And like you were saying, like you have to

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Speaker 3: unfortunately been in a couple of fittings were just like

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Speaker 3: and like very strongly, like oh you should wear this,

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Speaker 6: And I do think that, like you know, in the

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Speaker 6: I don't want to change that.

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Speaker 3: And that's why we love you.

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Speaker 4: It is It's true.

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Speaker 3: I love you.

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Speaker 1: I've had the experience that it's like we're so frustrated

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Speaker 3: Bad for that dress.

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Speaker 4: That's too bad.

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Speaker 3: And so it's like it makes you feel like that.

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Speaker 6: Because like I'm too bad for that dress.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go on a like carpet, I'm going

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Speaker 6: Sorry, dress, now, that dress got ruled out right away.

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Speaker 1: It's like, it's such a nice feeling to feel, like

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Speaker 1: I take that with me into dressing rooms now. Like

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Speaker 1: think is supposed to be my size, it doesn't fit,

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Speaker 4: Too bad for that pair of pants. Too bad, I'm

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Speaker 6: Oh well, that's very nice that you that. I hope

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Speaker 6: I've instilled a little wisdom, a little takeaway. But I

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Speaker 6: also think that, like, and we talk about this in

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Speaker 6: every fitting, and I've talked about it with every client

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Speaker 6: and every friend I have too, the sizes on the

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Speaker 6: clothes mean nothing.

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Speaker 3: Like they mean nothing nothing.

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Speaker 6: Man, It does not matter. It does not matter if

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Speaker 6: in that dress, Like, it doesn't matter. Because the way

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Speaker 6: and the business models, like all of it is kind

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Speaker 6: there is no size, like there's no size consistency across

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Speaker 6: I just think that, like dressing rooms are hard to

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Speaker 6: the labels that you're seeing, and nothing's working. It's really

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Speaker 6: it's not good for your brain.

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Speaker 4: It's bad. It's really bad for your brain.

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Speaker 1: And accepting that, Like I love the idea that it's

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Speaker 1: not about the size, it's about how it fits.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so it's very freeing.

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Speaker 1: It's because sometimes it's like a small and then sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's a large, depending on the way I want it

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Speaker 6: And I think, like I think, if we are all

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Speaker 6: probably have a huge range of actual sizes of clothing

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Speaker 6: based on brands, what we've liked over the years, and

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Speaker 4: What if I only feel good in pajamas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Oscars.

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Speaker 4: It was so special and beautiful.

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Speaker 3: I loved that performance dress.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's cool. That was I mean again, not only

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Speaker 6: Well not for you, Melissa, because you're always like cool,

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Speaker 3: that's so funny. No, Melissa, You're just like multiple times

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Speaker 6: No, I think that. No, Melissa, I mean you're just

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Speaker 3: Thanks, that's I'm gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna let that in.

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Speaker 6: And so speaking to that, what are your like top

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Speaker 6: I've been kind of thinking about lately because i feel

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, exactly. I'm not trying to change.

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Speaker 6: I've learned who I am.

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Speaker 4: Know, put a blazer on it, put a blazer on it.

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Speaker 6: But like if that's who you are, then that's great.

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Speaker 6: How would you find your own style?

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Speaker 6: But it's like a system that doesn't work right, like

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Speaker 6: Like sometimes simpler is easier, because like you should be

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Speaker 3: Oh, I've definitely been guilty of that. I'm thinking particularly

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Speaker 4: See you don't wear them.

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Speaker 3: I have not worn them yet, but I've put them

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Speaker 4: Like you wear that, I can't do it.

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Speaker 6: And then I'm in that example. Just like treat them

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Speaker 6: Just like put them into your wardrobe as it already exists.

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Speaker 6: So like, just wear them with your white T shirt,

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Speaker 6: wear them with your blazer. You don't have to like

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Speaker 6: Just like, let them be bright pink pants that you

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Speaker 4: I'm so invested in these briping pants.

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Speaker 3: Now, are they like are they like built like a slack,

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: You're like wide leg, wide leg? Are they like pull on?

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Speaker 4: Are they zipper?

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Speaker 3: They're zipper. They're wide with.

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Speaker 6: A bell tight loose, No kind of loose, really really

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Speaker 3: No, like a thicker, stiffer kind of.

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Speaker 4: I'm already excited.

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Speaker 6: But okay, this is funny because you and I have

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Speaker 6: Did Blockbuster Press, you wore this head to toe super

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Speaker 3: I loved that. I think that's what made me buy

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Speaker 6: To wear with it, or just like we just wear

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Speaker 6: it with neutrals, wear it with white, wear it with

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Speaker 3: I like that, just like keep it simple. Yeah, just like.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I love this. Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 3: Make this work? I love it?

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Speaker 4: But how do I make it work?

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Speaker 6: And then I think another way of like updating your

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Speaker 3: Yes, I just bought a pair of fifty dollars jellies

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Speaker 6: Oh you're in it, girl, is a trend.

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Speaker 1: Like I was looking at some of these prices, Girl,

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Speaker 6: Like, don't you remember what your feet felt like? Don't

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Speaker 1: These are Matt They're Matt Jellies, Jeffery Cable.

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Speaker 4: This is not a ad.

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Speaker 3: They're very cute. Okay, Okay, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wear them to hike. It's simply too

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Speaker 6: A pool situation like having a summer dress, very tangible

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna try it. We're going to see how they do.

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Speaker 6: Also, like I don't have good memories may baby.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I feel like I've blocked them out. Now that

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Speaker 3: Regret it's coming.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like it is maybe not the best choice. However,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the wide pant.

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of into it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not wearing Timberlands, but I'm basically just

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Speaker 4: I could wear Timberlands. They're back.

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Speaker 6: You just bought jellies. I think we're all even here.

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Speaker 4: Know, what I bought that I'm gonna wear with my jellies.

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Speaker 7: I bought the Dowan what Gap collaboration, wide leg with

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Speaker 7: that look like Z Cavalry cheese.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, man, I bought them.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I tried on much bigger sizes than I

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Speaker 1: normally am and I bought like three sizes bigger because

446
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Speaker 1: I wanted that big, baggy look, so I did it.

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Speaker 6: And that's another thing about sizes. Even the yes, the

448
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Speaker 6: sizes that fit your body don't matter, but also sometimes

449
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Speaker 6: you have to size up or size down to get

450
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Speaker 6: the fit right because everything the look on the models

451
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Speaker 6: is not the same. Like there's so much to think about.

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Speaker 3: More more that actually makes me think of the thing

453
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Speaker 3: that I want to ask you about, which is like

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Speaker 3: that is a good shopping tip, right, like think about

455
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Speaker 3: sizing up or down so that you can get a

456
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Speaker 3: fit that you think, what are some more like styling

457
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Speaker 3: tip because like obviously like not everybody is going to

458
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Speaker 3: have a moment where they have a personal stylus help them, right,

459
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Speaker 3: So you be that for people right now, Like be

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Speaker 3: the personal stilast that you wish that you could be

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Speaker 3: for everybody.

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Speaker 6: Okay. I think a dressing room tip is like, always

463
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Speaker 6: take more than one size, take two or three sizes,

464
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Speaker 6: because you're always gonna wonder what if, Like what about

465
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Speaker 6: the size smaller? What about the size bigger? Would it

466
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Speaker 6: feel better? Would it look better? Should I get it? Hemmed? Like?

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Speaker 6: You know, those are some things that I think in

468
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Speaker 6: the moment, you're sometimes pressured and be like I think

469
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Speaker 6: these are right, but like did you sit down in them?

470
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Speaker 6: Because like, let's be real, you should sit down in

471
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Speaker 6: your pants before you get them.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that one is so real.

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Speaker 6: And that's something I think we do all of my

474
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Speaker 6: fittings is I'm like, but can you sit down?

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Speaker 4: We do that a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and more so pants dresses.

477
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Speaker 4: Yeah, can you sit down?

478
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Speaker 3: Sometimes address dramatically changes when you sit.

479
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Speaker 6: Down, and sometimes you give everyone a show you did

480
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Speaker 6: not mean to give.

481
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Speaker 3: That you did not mean is out? Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes you just got to be careful, boy, Yeah, you

483
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Speaker 6: got to be real careful. I think another thing too,

484
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Speaker 6: is like it's great to know what brands work for you,

485
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Speaker 6: but also be open to other brands and like, well,

486
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Speaker 6: we live in a very lucky world in this well

487
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Speaker 6: our world is terrible. Let's be fair. But we live

488
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Speaker 6: in a lucky time in the sense that we have

489
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Speaker 6: access to so many brands and we can buy things

490
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Speaker 6: from all over the world with the click of a button.

491
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Speaker 6: But that doesn't always mean that we're thinking about what's

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Speaker 6: going to suit us and new brands and things that

493
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Speaker 6: you know make the most sense. So I think, like,

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Speaker 6: you know, if you're going to like Nordstrum, like take

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Speaker 6: a lap around the whole floor, like be open minded, Like,

496
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Speaker 6: don't just go to the two racks of clothes that

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Speaker 6: you know fit you because you're in Yes, that's great

498
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Speaker 6: if you're in a pinch, but you might be missing

499
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Speaker 6: something that's really wonderful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the junior section of Nordstrum's because it's

501
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Speaker 3: usually cheaper. And yeah, some of the big sizes fit

502
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Speaker 3: me in the T shirts and ship hot and accessories

503
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Speaker 3: are cute.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and sometimes it doesn't always work that way, but

505
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Speaker 6: like sometimes like men's pants can be really cute depending

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Speaker 6: on the fit and stuff. You know, Like you can

507
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Speaker 6: be open minded about if you're a smaller frame, you

508
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Speaker 6: could look in the like the bigger size of the

509
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Speaker 6: kid section. No shame in that if you you know,

510
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Speaker 6: with plus size, you can maybe look at you know,

511
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Speaker 6: both extended sizes and women. But like what happens when

512
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Speaker 6: you go over to the men's jackets, Like are there

513
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Speaker 6: some jackets that maybe have a bigger shoulder measurement that

514
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Speaker 6: maybe the women's sizes don't go up to. There's just

515
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Speaker 6: creative ways of thinking about it because things are gendered

516
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Speaker 6: and targeted. I think in this world it's a reminder

517
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Speaker 6: that you can look outside of that and just kind

518
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Speaker 6: of see what speaks to you and there's no right

519
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Speaker 6: or wrong.

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Speaker 4: I love, love love that more.

521
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Speaker 6: How mare, how do you feel about styling as we.

522
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Speaker 3: Get older or.

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Speaker 6: Become parents or Yeah, earlier you asked about like what

524
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Speaker 6: was hard or what was easy about each of you,

525
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Speaker 6: And I wouldn't say it was hard, but like dressing

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Speaker 6: Stephanie through your pregnancy was very a charalonge. It wasn't

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Speaker 6: a challenge. It was just there were a lot of

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Speaker 6: changes because we went from the beginning of pregnancy and

529
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Speaker 6: like all the way through postpartum, all the waste, you know,

530
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Speaker 6: delivery or like like so we kind of did the

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Speaker 6: whole life cycle.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it was like the peaks the booms are getting bigger,

533
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Speaker 3: but the booms are bigger. But like the stomach is

534
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Speaker 3: like doing something but I think fitting in the butt,

535
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Speaker 3: but the butt is flat. It was very it was

536
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Speaker 3: like a thing was like.

537
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Speaker 1: A expanding and contracting depending on the week.

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Speaker 6: Everything was slipping all over the place.

539
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Speaker 3: Real, real, real, real, real is what it's like.

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Speaker 1: Remember that, like, oh, this is a hot tip for pregnancy,

541
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Speaker 1: or like just I had that one.

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Speaker 3: It was like almost like a unitard uh huh bumps

543
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Speaker 3: under Yeah, it was like, oh, the bumpsuit. The bump

544
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Speaker 3: suit was che what the bumps.

545
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Speaker 6: It's a brand of like lycra jersey like full support

546
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Speaker 6: garments that are basically unitarts but they come in like

547
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Speaker 6: short sleeve, long sleeve, so they're like full body stockings

548
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Speaker 6: but they have the right kind of compression and support

549
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Speaker 6: for pregnancy and postpartum. And now they are making dresses

550
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Speaker 6: and all kinds of things. They've really expanded. But it's

551
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Speaker 6: called Pumpsuit and it's really wonderful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, highly recommend, highly recommend.

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Speaker 6: But I would say though that like your pregnancy was

554
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Speaker 6: just eye opening because it's a very real scenario with

555
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Speaker 6: what we're all dealing with as we get older, which

556
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Speaker 6: is like, our bodies just change. Our bodies change.

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Speaker 4: They just change now your permission, my ribs think, and

558
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Speaker 4: I'll never be that small again.

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Speaker 6: You know things, Gravity happens, Circumferences change.

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, shade changes like just weight distribution changes. Yep, yes,

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Speaker 3: that's what I mean.

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Speaker 6: So, and like, hormones are real and life is hard.

563
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Speaker 3: To continue to mode for the rest of the hormones

564
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Speaker 3: are but change. It's true.

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Speaker 6: That's something about working with you guys, but also working

566
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Speaker 6: with a lot of the women that I work with.

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Speaker 6: I think we're all just kind of real when it

568
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Speaker 6: comes to those conversations and talking about our bodies and

569
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Speaker 6: talking about how we're feeling. Like, I get it. You

570
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Speaker 6: might not want to ever show your upper arms. Cool,

571
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 6: we won't show them, Okay. You might only want to

572
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Speaker 6: show that your ankles, that's the only part of your

573
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Speaker 6: life you want to show. We'll make it work. Some

574
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 6: people don't want to wear shape wear at all because

575
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Speaker 6: it's uncomfortable and it makes them feel panicky because they

576
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Speaker 6: can't breathe. Great, we'll figure out a way to work around.

577
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 6: Other people are like, synch me in as tight as

578
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Speaker 6: you can because I want to be snatched and I

579
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Speaker 6: don't care because it's only for a couple hours, and like,

580
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Speaker 6: I just want to look good, So.

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Speaker 4: I'm other people, you guys, it's me. It's definie. I

582
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Speaker 4: love rule, not to the gods.

583
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Speaker 6: But not always because the other days we're like, we're

584
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Speaker 6: all like I don't want close touching.

585
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Speaker 4: You can't do it, you know.

586
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Speaker 6: So I think it's also just like you know, I

587
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Speaker 6: think for everybody it's important and okay to listen to

588
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Speaker 6: your body. Some days you may want tighter clothes, some

589
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 6: days you may want looser clothes, some days you may don't.

590
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Speaker 6: You may not want to put on a waistband at all,

591
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 6: and you want soft pants, and like all of that

592
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Speaker 6: is just like normal. I think that's all normal.

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Speaker 3: I love that you're kind of giving us permission too,

594
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Speaker 3: because like, I don't think a lot of us think

595
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Speaker 3: of it that way. Like I think a lot of

596
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: us think to myself, where the heck where they got

597
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Speaker 3: to wear the tread or like yeah, I'm going to this,

598
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Speaker 3: I have to wear this, which is like do you

599
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 3: or could you do something that is you know, okay

600
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Speaker 3: for the situation and still feels like how you want

601
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Speaker 3: to feel.

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Speaker 6: Listen. I think fashions wonderful. I think fashion is so fun.

603
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 6: I can't walk in heels like I can't. I cannot

604
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Speaker 6: do it. So like I need to be realistic, both

605
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 6: with myself and with just like the fact that like

606
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 6: why would I force somebody else to do something that

607
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Speaker 6: I'm not willing to do?

608
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 4: So what do you do when you have like a wedding?

609
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Speaker 4: Like what what shoe do you wear? I can a wedding,

610
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 4: like I.

611
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Speaker 6: Can wear like a platform or like something with a

612
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Speaker 6: thicker heel. I just can't do stowetos at all.

613
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 4: I love I love it.

614
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 6: I know that about myself, and I've learned how I

615
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 6: can kind of work around it. And that's fine. But

616
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 6: I think that like there's something to be said about

617
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 6: like just realistic style and aspirational style. I think it's

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Speaker 6: really cool to seize and daya looking incredible. I don't

619
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Speaker 6: think any of us are going to look like that

620
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 6: anytime soon, you know, Like I just don't like that's

621
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Speaker 6: just not it's amazing. She looks incredible in everything she wears.

622
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Speaker 3: But I think I loved watching too.

623
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Speaker 6: But I think it's unhealthy to hold women as a

624
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Speaker 6: whole up to those booty standards because like we've already

625
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 6: lived through it, through the nineties and the supermodels and

626
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 6: the two thousands and the tabloid culture, Like don't we

627
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 6: kind of know better a little bit, but like let's

628
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Speaker 6: all take care of ourselves. Yeah. Yeah, And it's great

629
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Speaker 6: to have style icons. It's great to look for influences

630
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 6: in celebrities and fashion and high fashion, but I also

631
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 6: think that, like the best style you can have is

632
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 6: the one that's right for you.

633
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Speaker 3: I love that.

634
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Speaker 6: I just think it's like more realistic, and I think

635
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 6: it's also more sustainable. Yeah, and it's healthy. Yeah.

636
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 3: And that was one of the things, yeah, that I

637
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: loved and connected with you when I first met you

638
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: was just this like, well, it doesn't really matter what's

639
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: on trend or what you think you should wear. It's

640
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: about what showing up to this work thing feeling really

641
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: good and feeling really confident and like having your outfit. Yeah,

642
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: Because I.

643
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 6: Think confidence is the best style, right, Like that's how

644
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 6: you feel. Like that's the best tool that I can

645
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 6: give anybody is confidence, not the label on their clothes.

646
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 6: If the label's great, it's super fun, sure, but how

647
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 6: you feel is always going to be more important. To me.

648
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 3: Speaking of labels, do you have, like what are your

649
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: favorite non labeling labels, meaning like what are your best

650
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: budget friendly places to shop? And I will share one

651
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: of mine, which is Gap. I am really loving the

652
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 3: resurgence over a Gap. I'm loving the I love all

653
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: the linen collection. I really like it. I'm like down

654
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: for it.

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Speaker 1: I got a pair of stutchy linen pants, I got

656
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: a linen shirt. Super cute stuff for like reasonable prices.

657
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 6: That's awesome. I've always been a fan of Zara just

658
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 6: because I think like there's a range of both like

659
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 6: trendy or cooler things, but also like age appropriate more

660
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 6: like mature and or just classic tailoring. But I also,

661
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 6: you know, think that fast fashion is not always going

662
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 6: to be the answer because it's bad for our environment.

663
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 6: And of course we're all going to pull the trigger

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Speaker 6: on cheaper products sometimes because like it's instant gratification and

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Speaker 6: sometimes that's okay.

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Speaker 3: Also if you have kids, it's really hard, of course.

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Speaker 6: But I also think that it's important to be mindful about,

668
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Speaker 6: you know, if the budget doesn't always mean disposable, you know,

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Speaker 6: like so like Vintage is a great place to like

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Speaker 6: maybe you know, thrift stores and vintage and you're like

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Speaker 6: garage sales even sometimes when people are getting rid of things,

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Speaker 6: like I have found beautiful things out of state sales

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00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 6: and thrift stores and vintage, So like that's a creative

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Speaker 6: way that you can, you know, budget shop and not

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Speaker 6: follow the same thing that everybody else is doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love to shop at vintage stores and

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Speaker 3: thrift stores more often I find myself getting really overwhelmed

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Speaker 3: and like over stimulated when I go into them. Do

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Speaker 3: you have like a like a hack or like a

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Speaker 3: tip for just going in and just trying to find yes,

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Speaker 3: just making the experience easier.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I think there's two tips I can give one

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Speaker 6: and this actually applies to all shopping, not just thrift

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Speaker 6: and vintage. But they're two good shopping takeaways. One, get

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Speaker 6: like a fabric tape measure and put it in your

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Speaker 6: purse and just keep it there. And then when you're

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Speaker 6: out at like a flea market and you see a

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Speaker 6: great pair of Levi's vintage Levi's, and like, I wonder

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Speaker 6: if these will fit me, just take the measurements. It

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Speaker 6: will take so much stress off of your mind, especially

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Speaker 6: like if you know your bust, if you know your waist.

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Speaker 6: If you know your hip, like, you can rule things

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Speaker 6: out so quickly with ever going to the dressing room.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, this is amazing that. That is an

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Speaker 4: amazing tip.

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Speaker 6: And it's just one of those little hacks where like

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Speaker 6: it can just take some of the pressure off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And like you know, if your hips are a thirty four,

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Speaker 6: let's say, and that dress has a thirty two, don't bother.

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Speaker 6: Just don't bother. Don't don't bother because you'll only feel bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Oh and so that's one thing. And then the other

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Speaker 6: shopping tip that I would have, especially for vintage or

705
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Speaker 6: big shopping in any way, is like pick a garment

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Speaker 6: you're looking for and just stick to that. Like, are

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Speaker 6: you looking for vintage teas cool? Just go and focus

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Speaker 6: on the T shirts. Are you looking for a cool

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00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 6: vintage dress, Just go look at the dresses. Don't waste

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Speaker 6: your time and energy on like grubby old shoes when

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00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 6: you have no interest in the shoes. Yeah. So I

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00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 6: think that there's something about kind of having a little

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Speaker 6: bit of a mindset and some blinders up about what

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Speaker 6: you're looking for and how to focus that in versus.

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Speaker 6: I think that's where I've messed up, getting distracted. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I want to shop more sustainably, and you spend two

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00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 6: hours looking through the racks and you're like, what am

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Speaker 6: I even looking at?

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Speaker 3: And then I'm exhausted and I don't buy anything.

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Speaker 6: And you don't want to try on anything because now

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Speaker 6: you've smelled like moth balls for two hours and you're like,

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Speaker 6: I'm over this. Yees.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 6: You literally described every time, almost every time I've gone.

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Speaker 4: Into like I are so different. I could spend hours you.

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Speaker 6: Guys, you guys, I know it. I know it all.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I so different.

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Speaker 4: Love them.

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Speaker 3: I go to my local thrift shop literally almost every

730
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Speaker 3: time that I go down that street to get a

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Speaker 3: copy or go to pulates.

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Speaker 4: But there's all of it.

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Speaker 6: But that's another tip too, is like the frequency, Like

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Speaker 6: then you don't have to dive as deeply every time

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Speaker 6: you go, because you're already familiar with the stower. You

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Speaker 6: can kind of just browse it. So I think that's

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Speaker 6: also something like in the spots that maybe already speak

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Speaker 6: to you, and then you can just kind of go

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Speaker 6: on a rather regular rhythm and browse, versus feeling like

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00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 6: you have to look at every single piece in the

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Speaker 6: store the second you walk in.

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Speaker 4: Yes, agreed, agreed.

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Speaker 3: The frequency that is brilliant of the frequency more better,

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Speaker 3: My gosh, I loved this so much, Ariol, thank you

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00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: so much.

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Speaker 4: For it was amazing. That was amazing, And.

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Speaker 6: Thank you guys for having me. I'm very honored. You

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Speaker 6: guys are the best. Thank you for all this trustee

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00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 6: and letting me have fun with you.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 6: Clothes don't have to be hard.

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00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 4: They don't. They don't, they don't.

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Speaker 1: I think that was honestly, my main takeaway was like

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00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: they don't have to be hard, and also the feeling

755
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: of like, what do I want to feel like today?

756
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 4: Because Ariol's right.

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00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: Like sometimes I want to be like snatched to the gods,

758
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: and other times I'm like, I really want to be

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00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: comfortable all day long. I'm gonna have to get down

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00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: on my knees with a toddler a lot, I'm gonna

761
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: be running errands. I still want to feel fantastic. What

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Speaker 1: can I do to make that happen?

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Speaker 6: Yes? Yeah, I think all of those things are just

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Speaker 6: like realistic ways to check in with yourself and then

765
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Speaker 6: you don't end up feeling frustrated or uncomfortable like that

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00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 6: feeling when you like walk in the door and you

767
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 6: just want to rip your clothes off because you like

768
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 6: hated them all day. We don't need that. We don't

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Speaker 6: need that.

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Speaker 4: We don't need that, we don't need that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think also like I'm I'm digesting to

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Speaker 3: have like more fun too and be a little more

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Speaker 3: open to other things outside of my jeans and T shirts,

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Speaker 3: but also jeans and T shirts, pink pants, pink pants,

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Speaker 3: I can also swap in some hot pink pants in there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just gonna say, I'm gonna need I'm

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00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 6: gonna need a photo follow up with some with some

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00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 6: pink pants. Yes, I'm gonna need an update.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. Yeah, it's done. Well.

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Speaker 3: That was amazing. Thank you so much for coming, Aril, Aril, Stephanie.

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Speaker 3: Do you guys feel a little more better?

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Speaker 4: All right, I'll you go first.

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00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 6: I feel more better because I got to spend time

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00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 6: with you guys, and you guys are the best and

785
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 6: you made my day. But yeah, I feel more better

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Speaker 6: because it's nice to talk about this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 1: I feel more better because I feel like very excited

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00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,959
Speaker 1: to do this tape measure trick that I never ever,

790
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: even in a million years, would have thought of.

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Speaker 4: But it'll save me from.

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Speaker 1: Like, you know, having to take off my shoes and

793
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: stand in my socks in a maybe not so hot

794
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: so bentage store dressing room.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent? And I feel more better because I

797
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 3: feel so inspired to wear my hot ping pants, my god,

798
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: the hot pink pants. I love you, lady.

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Speaker 6: I love you guys too.

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Speaker 3: Okay, everybody go shopping in your own closet now, Okay,

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Speaker 3: bye bye.

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Speaker 6: Better.

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Speaker 3: at that you want us to talk about in a

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Speaker 3: you tried one of our tips and tricks? Shoot us

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