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Speaker 1: Welcome to this episode The Debo and Joe.

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Speaker 2: I am your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here

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Speaker 2: with my co host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you

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Speaker 2: guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss. How

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Speaker 2: you doing today, Joe. Man, I'm doing good, Debo, I'm

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Speaker 2: doing well.

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Speaker 1: Man. How you doing? I'm doing real good? Man.

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Speaker 2: Listen here, man, before we get started. Man, I got

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Speaker 2: I got, I got something to talk about. Man, this

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Speaker 2: fine that they they gave what is it, Saint St.

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Speaker 2: Saint Pierre Brown whatever, Saint Brown? Yeah, okay, it's idiotic.

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Speaker 2: Y'all need to find y'allself for letting it go out,

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Speaker 2: if that's the case, if you feel so strongly about it,

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Speaker 2: because you bleep out everything else. You bleep out shit,

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Speaker 2: damn bullshit of fuck, motherfucker, all this stuff you bleep,

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Speaker 2: you bleep all that out. But this right here, you're

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Speaker 2: finding him for. You ought to find yourself for not

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Speaker 2: having some type of delay, if y'all feel that's strongly

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Speaker 2: about what he said, because he said I run this ship.

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Speaker 2: I heard you bleep out shit. I done heard people

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Speaker 2: say I run this shit, So it got to be

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Speaker 2: the nigga.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate this is the This is the one

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Speaker 3: part when I'm saying, like a lot of this stuff

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Speaker 3: is getting caught live where when the refs are announcing

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Speaker 3: the call, Like when my man Jackson Smith said this

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Speaker 3: is some bullshit to the ref and he was about

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Speaker 3: to throw them hit him aside. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: like that shit was crazy. He was looking at the

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Speaker 3: ref reff was looking like him like man, like I

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Speaker 3: could literally throw a fifteen yard flag at you right now.

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Speaker 3: So I understand what you're saying. So sometimes things on

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Speaker 3: live can get caught. So it's like you're understanding is

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Speaker 3: it because he said the nigga word?

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Speaker 1: Is that why he gotta be?

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Speaker 3: Because people when you say the delay, certain things are

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Speaker 3: gonna get caught because those airbares forty two thousand, bro

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Speaker 3: forty two thousand dollars understand that.

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Speaker 1: So what I'm trying to forget that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, where the NFLPA at man, Where them bom ass niggas?

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Speaker 1: Where they at? Like like where in your contract? Where

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Speaker 1: in the collective Barton agreement?

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Speaker 2: And say you get fined for saying nigga forty two thousand?

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Speaker 3: There's no there's nothing there's nothing. And then at the

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Speaker 3: same time, people when you're on the field, these are

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Speaker 3: this is what people we were on the field. If

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Speaker 3: there was people getting find for everything that was sett

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Speaker 3: on the field, that's not okay. Like people are out there,

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Speaker 3: they're getting cussed out the ref dock, just cussed out

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Speaker 3: by Jackson Smith. Like on the field, there's some bullshit

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Speaker 3: like are they not going to find him forty three

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars for it?

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Speaker 1: So it's like, don't be begging the now.

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Speaker 2: If you find him forty three thousands for that, man,

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Speaker 2: you got to find everybody else for every customord that

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Speaker 2: come out there as normal conversation through the whole process.

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Speaker 2: And I think then they got so sensitive with this

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Speaker 2: word nigga. Like he's not saying in a like derogatory

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Speaker 2: type a.

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Speaker 1: Nigga cooon not hard not hard? Are yes? Not not hard? R?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he wouldn't say that anyway, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: He's saying that, and just he's just talking shit, no question,

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Speaker 2: talking shit. So if you go back and they go

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Speaker 2: they caught the bullshit, right, So if they catch that

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Speaker 2: bullshit and they gonna find him for that, now, these

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Speaker 2: dudes they can't even talk no more.

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Speaker 1: You can't even say nothing.

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Speaker 3: It's the heat of the moment. It's the battle. When

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Speaker 3: dudes is playing like dude, dudes get riled up. You

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. At the end of the game,

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Speaker 3: you'll wap it up with dudes whatever, But you say

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Speaker 3: some things that are definitely out of characteristic. Dudes are

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Speaker 3: out there blacking out like legitimately because you're playing hard

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Speaker 3: and emotions get high.

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Speaker 1: So you say some stuff and it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, if you're just

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Speaker 3: literally walking and stepping there trying to find people, no questions, say, no.

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Speaker 2: Question, Look here, look here, look here, man. This is

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Speaker 2: what needs to happen. Saint Brown needs to call the NFLPA,

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Speaker 2: the leadership of the nfl p A, and be like, Yo,

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Speaker 2: what's up?

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Speaker 1: Do something? Help me?

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Speaker 2: Come on, come on, do something. Got to what the

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Speaker 2: executive what you got partial? Whatever it is. Listen, That's

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Speaker 2: why I gotta run for NFLPA. That's why I gotta

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Speaker 2: be the guy there. You ain't gonna have nobody there

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Speaker 2: that's gonna fight for you like me. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 2: what you go through. I done play the game at

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Speaker 2: every level. I've been a practice squad player. I've been

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Speaker 2: a dude making minimum. I've been a dude making a lot.

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Speaker 1: What do you talk?

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Speaker 2: I've been fine for all kinds of bullshit. Need somebody

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Speaker 2: there that's gonna fight for you. Go talk to an

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Speaker 2: NFL PA, see what they gonna do. I ain't heard

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Speaker 2: people word out of them since this happened. They should

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Speaker 2: have been going going hard for him immediately where they at. Listen,

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Speaker 2: I'm James Harrison, and I approved this message. James Harrison,

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Speaker 2: nfl PA Executive Director. Let's go, let's get a d BO.

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Speaker 2: I feel that's that. I understand where you're coming from.

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Speaker 2: When you're saying about if you're gonna start finding dudes

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Speaker 2: for whatevery word that they say while they're on the field,

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Speaker 2: that is something that you're gonna open up whole different

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Speaker 2: bag of worms. If it's because he's saying the N word,

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Speaker 2: the NINGA word, that's something you're uncomfortable with NFL You like,

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Speaker 2: that's that's not in the rule book.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's just it opens

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Speaker 1: up a whole different bag of worms.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they want to get involved in because

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Speaker 3: you caught my man, Jackson Smith.

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Speaker 1: If that's the case, cussing out the raft and that's

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Speaker 1: just what you do, what you go through.

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Speaker 2: But you, hey, listen, man, you you you walk in

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Speaker 2: a thin line right there if you go and find

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Speaker 2: him for that.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying you could cuss, you just can't cuss.

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Speaker 2: Wow when they go here. If that's what they do,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. So if that's the case, what you.

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Speaker 1: Need to do. If you're gonna cuss, don't get caught.

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Speaker 2: No, that's your damn self too for having the having

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Speaker 2: the mic live and everything else. Y'all need to get

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Speaker 2: a good thirty second delay so you could bleep that

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Speaker 2: out so that way you.

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Speaker 1: Don't get fined. They don't get fined.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you find them, you need to find yourself ten

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Speaker 2: twenty times as much for letting me get.

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Speaker 1: Out there bombs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, for sure as niggas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's them live soundbo gonna catch it time. It

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Speaker 1: made me come about it. Man. See listen, May I'll

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Speaker 1: be trying. May, I'll be trying.

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Speaker 2: Bro. Listen, man, let's get to this now, this Yato

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Speaker 2: Cardinals game. Bro, I did not see this thing going

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Speaker 2: and ended up where it was that twenty to twenty three? Dude,

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Speaker 2: Like the first quarter, I'm thinking it's go something go happen.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna go wild like, but not really, you know.

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Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing that happened was, uh, the

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Speaker 2: fourth down that Seattle went for. They didn't they didn't

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Speaker 2: convert it. When they didn't convert that, they gave Arizona

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Speaker 2: a short field and hell I think the second play, dude,

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Speaker 2: Arizona had an interception. Yeah, they had an interception. They

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Speaker 2: had a pick, they got lucky, it got back, They

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Speaker 2: got it back, and then they were able to I

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Speaker 2: think they hit a run for maybe like ten fifteen.

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Speaker 2: They got a face mask at the fast another fifteen.

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Speaker 3: The the first pick that they got was when they

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Speaker 3: went to throw the dick, the Marvin Harrison junior. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he quit on the route. That was the one thing

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Speaker 3: I didn't like. You gotta keep you kind of you

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Speaker 3: gotta keep.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say he quit on us. I would say

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Speaker 2: he didn't think that it was going to go to

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Speaker 2: him go down. If he had from the way you

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Speaker 2: through it, even if he had dug through that, I

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Speaker 2: don't think he would have.

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Speaker 3: He would have still caught it. No, I don't think

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Speaker 3: he would have called it. But at least you could

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Speaker 3: have played deep. We could have played dB. We could

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Speaker 3: at least broke it up.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Your quarterback was believing it so that that was one

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Speaker 3: and then they ended up getting that back.

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Speaker 1: Though, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then like I said, they moved, got a

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Speaker 2: made him have to settle for the field goal. So

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Speaker 2: but Seattle comes right out. I think it was six

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Speaker 2: seven plays. Yeah, at the pass of like twelve, the

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Speaker 2: touchdown was sixteen, like ten, another one for twenty one day,

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Speaker 2: seven to three. Now it's you know, I'm thinking it's

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Speaker 2: And then the first possession they get back Arizona, they

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Speaker 2: he gets sacked like twos, No, he gets sacked once.

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Speaker 2: I think it was second down there. It was a

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Speaker 2: scramble on the third and they end up having to punt.

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Speaker 2: I don't know right now, don't know. I'm thinking then

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Speaker 2: like it's more of a I don't know, it's maybe

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Speaker 2: it might end up being a possessional thing, you know.

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Speaker 2: First quarter Pete people don't sometimes don't play up to

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Speaker 2: the potential that they could, you know, be.

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Speaker 1: Playing to.

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Speaker 2: And then Hervin goes and he was just out of character.

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Speaker 2: I guess he dropped the pass. They tip interception, Seattle

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Speaker 2: gets the ball. You know they're driving, and the nang

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Speaker 2: on running back he stars him out. You're going, you're

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Speaker 2: going throw the ball at him. You got to talk

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Speaker 2: to him without a flag. You got to point the

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Speaker 2: ball at him without a flag. And then you said,

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Speaker 2: the hell would it? Let me throw it? And now

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Speaker 2: the team you know you kill the drag.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so wound something fifty wounds on the Seahawks

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Speaker 3: part on that part, just a little discipline like the holding.

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Speaker 3: We had a holding a little bit later, and then

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Speaker 3: on that play, you know what I'm saying. So I

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Speaker 3: think they definitely a lot of the stuff that happened

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Speaker 3: to them was more they can be in control of it.

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Speaker 3: It's just emotions, like you can't you on a holding

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Speaker 3: And then on that plate, like you said, he got

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Speaker 3: away with the first thing talking put the ball up

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Speaker 3: to his face, and then he still threw the.

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Speaker 1: Ball at him like Walker, that's that's.

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Speaker 2: The triple crown drawer. You definitely right, you ain't know

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Speaker 2: when to stop. You ain't good enough. It was good enough, Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Do nothing with the balls. You got them, come back out.

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Speaker 2: They hit like a thirty two, you know, twenty four.

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Speaker 2: I think dude scrambled for about fifteen twenty and then

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Speaker 2: you know the PI.

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Speaker 1: That put him right there.

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Speaker 2: Score again it's thirteen, you know, it's fourteen the three three, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you know basically at the end of the half,

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Speaker 2: Kyler is almost picked on the first one, and then

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Speaker 2: he sacked and pressured and you know the half hands,

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Speaker 2: you know, so you go out there and I think

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Speaker 2: Darnold went like he didn't have a bunch of yards

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Speaker 2: like maybe eight of eleven something like that.

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Speaker 1: For one hundred and twenty one hundred and twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Kyler he had two picks fourteen to twenty three. I

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Speaker 2: don't even think it was one hundred yards, like eighty

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Speaker 2: had like one hundred and seven.

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Speaker 1: Yards, bro Like in the first half.

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Speaker 2: In the first half, that's not what you want to

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Speaker 2: you know, not what you want to start.

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Speaker 1: Dude, No, no, not at all.

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Speaker 3: And then we legitimately with those first two we had

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Speaker 3: two picks, two turnovers in the first half. They ended

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Speaker 3: off of with a field goal.

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Speaker 1: But that's not that's not going to be. That's not

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Speaker 1: what you need on your offense for Shul, no question.

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Speaker 2: But then a z they come out beginning the third.

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Speaker 2: The boys get a sacked, but they let they let

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Speaker 2: up out of that. So we at what thirteen, you know, three.

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Speaker 1: To seventeen three. Dude, again, Kyler was under pressure all night, dude,

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Speaker 1: Like he got sacked six times. Yes, dude.

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Speaker 2: The next possession, dude, he's pressured.

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Speaker 1: They get a holding call, like then they got a

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Speaker 2: Like it's but the defense did finally show up though

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Speaker 2: they did like they did three and out.

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Speaker 1: I think a couple of possessions later or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Third quarter defense was good, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: That that's yeah, they did a three and out. I

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Speaker 2: think Arizona was driving the ball, but I think they

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Speaker 2: got sacked twice. Yeah, they got sacked twice and ended

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Speaker 2: up having to settle for a field goal that got

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Speaker 1: So you know, all that go.

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Speaker 3: I think that was because basically they had the Jackson

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Speaker 3: it all the way down there, and then he did

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Speaker 3: the holding. He got called for holding. He almost got

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Speaker 3: the double flag because that's when he pulled out to

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Speaker 3: the ref They caught him walking by him on live TV.

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Speaker 3: That's a board and the referee looked at him like

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Speaker 3: he wanted, I ain't gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that was a hole.

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Speaker 2: That's one of them situations where you get hit and

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. I don't know if he really

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Speaker 2: he did for sure.

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Speaker 3: But that's that's another just that's another play that happened.

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Speaker 3: That's another that's that was the flag there, It was

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Speaker 3: on him, and that was another player that kind of

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Speaker 3: stalled another one of their drives. I think Seahawks, like

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Speaker 3: I said, they could have beat them by they could.

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Speaker 3: I think they could have beat the Cardinals by a

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Speaker 3: lot more. It was more close than it looked, and

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Speaker 3: especially the Seahawks. The Cardinals played a great fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: You know you're about to get into that, but at the.

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Speaker 1: Beginning of the game.

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Speaker 3: It looked like the Seahawks should have definitely been beaten

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Speaker 3: him by a lot more than they were.

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Speaker 1: They should have, I mean they didn't. They didn't, like

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Speaker 1: I said, you had penalties that slowed him down. Even

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Speaker 2: You know, Seattle come out and they go fourteen plays

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Speaker 2: two penalties.

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Speaker 1: One was a hole.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a false start. So they end up

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Speaker 2: settling for another, you know, another field goal. It was

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Speaker 2: could have turned into you know, seven points right there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you know, from that point, you know, Kyler Murray

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Speaker 2: you know, he's like, you know what, I'm just scrambling

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Speaker 2: thirty and then they had that huge, huge Piacoh yeah,

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Speaker 2: that put him at the nine.

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Speaker 1: And then turn again, he gets sacked.

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Speaker 2: He gets sacked again, and I'm thinking, oh, they about

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Speaker 2: to be stuck. Arvin finally comes through sixteen yards when

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Speaker 2: he caught that ball, I thought I thought he was

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Speaker 3: He stayed down there because he's been dropping the ball

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Speaker 3: so you know, he he he knows he's good, he

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Speaker 3: knows he's not plan to his ability. And then them

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Speaker 3: coming off of his fingertips and turning into a turnover.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like he sees stuff, he

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Speaker 3: feels very emotional. I can tell he cares. He wants

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Speaker 3: to fight back, doing a really good job in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter, coming up with some third down conversions and

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Speaker 3: catching that pass. I know it was emotional, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, just because like sure I've been fighting,

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Speaker 3: told my fucking line.

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Speaker 2: Listen, listen when I get lots bro after Seattle missed

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Speaker 2: that field goal, you know me, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: Man, I think that they gave Arizona shot now, and hey,

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Speaker 1: hey what is he do?

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Speaker 2: They came back out there fourth down, they converted that thing.

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Speaker 1: Brow I'm like.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, they might lose this game. And the

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Speaker 2: kicker doesn't get the ball into the drop song bro

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Speaker 2: put him after forty five.

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Speaker 1: Donald completes like.

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Speaker 2: A twenty twenty five yarder and then they do a

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Speaker 1: The kicker had to.

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Speaker 2: Come back out and relieve yourself.

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm gonna respect Donald. He went out there,

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Speaker 3: he made to play the kicker. You gotta get it

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Speaker 3: into the drop zone. Right now, we're protecting the field goal.

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Speaker 3: Kickers are kicking the ball Debo from way deeper. We

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Speaker 3: had to protect the thirty five yard line. Now you

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Speaker 3: gotta protect damn near to fifty. So kick the ball deep.

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Speaker 1: And get the ball like make a tackle within.

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Speaker 3: The twenty within the twenty five, knowing you gotta stop

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Speaker 1: You gotta stop twenty five yards.

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Speaker 3: The one thing I do respect from the defense was

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Speaker 3: they didn't play bail and they didn't just back up

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Speaker 3: and see to it.

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Speaker 1: That was man and the man.

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Speaker 3: That was a great throw and catch that they had

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Speaker 3: to perform. It was tight coverage and they back showed

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Speaker 3: it to get the Jackson Smith and jig but and

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Speaker 3: Donald made that play. It wasn't just like no just

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Speaker 3: that's why I feel like Donald and got credit for that.

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, punt the ball deep,

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Speaker 3: field these new kickers field goal range. So I think

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Speaker 3: they did make a great play, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: They had to do that. They didn't just play that

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Speaker 3: Smith and Jake but got his feet and it was beautiful.

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Speaker 3: But I think they need to do better coverage and

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Speaker 3: then right there, I mean it, it was a great

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they need more, They need more, Marvin Harrison Kyler

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Speaker 2: said after the game. He said he loved the way

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Speaker 2: continue to make plays. Obviously, he's probably going to go

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Speaker 2: to he's probably going to go home thinking about that shit.

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, again, it's football.

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Speaker 2: We all make mistakes. But he continued to battle. You know,

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good job of Kyler, you know,

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Speaker 2: him know, you know, this is not the end all.

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Speaker 1: Anything could be turned around.

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Speaker 2: Just like you said, dude had bad three three quarters

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Speaker 2: and in the fourth quarter. You know, he was a

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Speaker 2: that was what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a real great job of Coller just

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Speaker 3: first couple of quarters. I know you didn't mean to

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Speaker 3: good it's quarterback supporting them and uh, you know.

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Speaker 1: Just continue to you got it. Just he knows you

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Speaker 3: Obviously, I know Marves Harrison, Marvin Harrison Juir knows this

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Speaker 3: to He's trying that he's going to have to do better.

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Speaker 1: It's God have to get it done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Arizona needs to do better. I mean, the offensive

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Speaker 2: line has to do better. Yeah, too many pressures, too

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Speaker 2: many Sackskyler needs.

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Speaker 1: To be able to throw the ball downfield.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think he had I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 2: and play better. In their defense, they need to be

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Speaker 2: more consistent. They gave up way too many exposed plays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Jigga was eating on the outside. Walker was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Donald was converted.

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Speaker 3: Donald was doing a good job too, just using his legs,

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Speaker 3: So, I mean they I was honestly looking at the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a really good game. Donald did pretty good.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying Over there, He wasn't teaing

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Speaker 2: them all over right right. Eighteen to twenty six, two

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Speaker 2: he's starting to earn a little bit of that. You know,

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Speaker 2: three year, one hundred million dollar contract that Seattle gave me.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, that's and that's that's right around there.

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Speaker 3: You know that thirty three a year when you got

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Speaker 3: dudes making sixty fifty five, that's just bom stay with stated,

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Speaker 3: keeping it.

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Speaker 1: And when you say thirty three is keeping it afloat.

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Speaker 2: That's that dumb. So he's chilling, no question he doing.

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Speaker 2: He's doing with his pay. He's doing what his pay

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Speaker 2: says he should be able to boom right, did you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 3: And I love it, and just making sure that maintaining

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Speaker 3: zero turns.

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Speaker 2: Hey, the defense is doing, The defense is doing well.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think they were as good as they were

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Speaker 2: because you know, when they played against the Stellers, I

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Speaker 1: Was just hate. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: No for sure, Yeah for sure, sure for sure. So

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Speaker 2: I didn't I see it now for sure, but I couldn't.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't see it then, Yeah, no, because you know,

438
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 3: you had your goggles on, you had your Steeler goggles on.

439
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,400
Speaker 1: Just basically like we're better than them.

440
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 3: I don't know how they're going to come in here

441
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 3: and beat us just looking from the outside. That so

442
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 3: now you're looking from the outside when they're playing a

443
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 3: different team, you're looking like.

444
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 1: Okay, oh, I could actually see how they can get

445
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 1: some things done for show for show.

446
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 2: Speaking of Steelers, man, my boy, my guy, big men,

447
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 2: I guess he had a little bit of criticism for

448
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 2: the Vanilla Steelers defense ahead of the.

449
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 1: Ireland Vikings game.

450
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 2: He said, to me, without studying our defense, it seems

451
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 2: like we're preally vanilla defense as it is. It doesn't

452
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 2: feel like to me, we're getting a lot of unique pressures,

453
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 2: unique defenses, he said. Even no, I think even coach

454
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 2: Tomlin said today in his press conference, he said something

455
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 2: along the lines of situational circumstances are preventing them from

456
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 2: doing things, and I don't know what.

457
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 1: That means exactly.

458
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 2: He added that it is he isn't sure what's preventing

459
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,479
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh from trying new things, but he's sure hope for

460
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 2: things to change in the scheme. He suggested blitzing cornerback

461
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey and unique and utilizing linebackers in different ways.

462
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: So when I came back in was it twenty fourteen? Yeah,

463
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. I was with the Bangles in thirteen. Yeah,

464
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm retired. He came back. They got me to come back.

465
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: When I came back, dig Globoge was still a decordinator.

466
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 2: But they had changed that defense. Okay, And when he

467
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 2: says it's vanilla, that is a true statement.

468
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 1: They changed the defense to make it easier to learn

469
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Speaker 1: and understand so that players could play sooner.

470
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 2: So with the true dick Lebo fire zone, there is

471
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 2: a real life learning curve like you could be in

472
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 2: the defense that has you blit, seeing free, no responsibility.

473
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 1: And they motion and now you're locked up man on.

474
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 1: You know number three.

475
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: But that's like a single nuance that you have to know.

476
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: And every defense has one weakness. When you go and

477
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 2: you try and change things to make it easier for

478
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: player A or B to play, you create other weaknesses.

479
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: And gaps in the defense. No, No, for sure.

480
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 2: I think what they're running into with guys being out

481
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: of place, people not being covered is they're changing things

482
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: so much to try and make it simpler, but they're

483
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: adding more gaps and holes to the defense and the process.

484
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you remember the defense because I could speak

485
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 3: on that when I came in there in twenty seventeen,

486
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 3: you were there too, and the way that the fire

487
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,719
Speaker 3: zones were and just the communication wise I've been in.

488
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 3: It was good for me because i've been in being

489
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 3: able to be it was different.

490
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: It was simple.

491
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: It was vanilla like you said, but it was easy

492
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 3: because everybody you could be able to understand some stuff

493
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 3: like you had to communication. You had to be able

494
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 3: in communication with the linebackers because the defensive backs, the

495
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 3: safeties and the linebackers. If there's motions there's going that

496
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: has to be communications. People have to start covering people.

497
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: You could turn from a like you said, a blitzer

498
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: with no responsibilities to Garden three to Garden two, you

499
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

500
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: So having that communication is big.

501
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 3: And when coach Tomlin is saying that we're calling vanilla things,

502
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 3: they're just simplifying like just basically like cover twos and

503
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 3: just not like everybody's standing in the simplify spots. But

504
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: that's making other positions be able to it's errors, you

505
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It's making room for error. There's

506
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 3: too much gray, like you're saying, there shouldn't be gray.

507
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 3: You should be able to do this player. A can

508
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 3: do this player, we can do this. But if you

509
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 3: start saying no, this dude is in this position, we're

510
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 3: going to start trying to move it and make this

511
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 3: make these changes, it makes too much gray. I just

512
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: like when you, like you said, this is what it is,

513
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 3: this is what it is, and you got to be

514
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 3: able to communicate that and stand on it instead of

515
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 3: being able to no, they can't make this play. We're

516
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 3: going to start moving and shifting things around. I don't

517
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: it creates confusion.

518
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well what it does is especially for when I

519
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: got back, even go to last year the playoff game

520
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: with was it Baltimore? Last year?

521
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: Was that?

522
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: Last year with Baltimore? The playoff game we had was

523
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: that Stillers playoffs? No year before.

524
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: The Stellers the last time in the playoffs borldy.

525
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: Didn't they played the Ravens or something? Didn't they know?

526
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: They played the Browns? Are you sure? Or was it

527
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: the last game of the No, because Lamar was playing

528
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: so much have been being the last game of the season.

529
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was the playoff game because

530
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: we normally played its January.

531
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: They got beat by the Ravens in the wild card game.

532
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm watching that game and I'm trying to figure

533
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 2: out what's going on. And the outside linebackers that's playing

534
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 2: on the end, they're crashing down in the triple option

535
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 2: to get to the fullback where normally you play and

536
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: you play, you play quarterback to pitch. What they had

537
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 2: us do when we did it is we actually just

538
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 2: ran down and smashed the quarterback. It's what the coach

539
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: the Bowl changed it too. When I saw the linebackers,

540
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 2: the outside linebackers smashing down to try and get to

541
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 2: the dive, I knew he was in trouble dead changed

542
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: it to something that I didn't even recognize. Like I

543
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: even tweeted out, like why are our outside linebackers crashing

544
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: down on the dive? Like now you've got Lamar out

545
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 2: here free, and you got a safety coming down full

546
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 2: speed and you think he ain't gonna be able to

547
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 2: get loose or pitch it off or whatever it may be.

548
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: So that's like one of.

549
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: Those things that I saw even from when I after

550
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: I was gone, that had changed, you know, And like

551
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 2: I said, when I came back, I'm sitting there, I'm like, Yo,

552
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: what's going on. They're like, yeah, we had to we

553
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: had to simplify. We called it dumb it down. They

554
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: said they have to simplify it to make it easier

555
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: for you know, guys that they wanted to play now

556
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: to be able to play where before the learning curve

557
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 2: was at least a year, if not two, before you

558
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: can understand the whole concept of you know, particular Bote defense.

559
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: No, I get that, but I would respect it. I

560
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: like the way that you said it back. If you

561
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: have the same coach that's there for a long time,

562
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 3: that's creating a system that the player is going to

563
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 3: have to eventually just going to take you a little

564
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 3: learning curve to learn it. But once you get it,

565
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 3: it's what the defense is. There's not going to be

566
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 3: any great there's no mistakes there. I think that you

567
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 3: got to take that time to get that learning curve in.

568
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 3: But I know, just coaches like this, Now, this young dude,

569
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 3: he's good. We're gonna need to get him out on

570
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 3: the field no matter if he knows how to really

571
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: handle this read option the correct way. We just going

572
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 3: to make take quarterback every time. And then somebody else

573
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: is like, right, you try and simplify it.

574
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: Um damn that. Yes, in that.

575
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: Process, you mess up everything else that comes off of that.

576
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: So now you got to adjust this, and you got

577
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 2: to adjust that. So now the safety that's supposed to be,

578
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: you know, doing something else. Now he got to come

579
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: down and take.

580
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: Care of that.

581
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: So now you're really you're trying to fix one thing here,

582
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 2: one thing there, but you're really adjusting sometimes the whole

583
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: defense from it, or at least half of it.

584
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: I think that that should go back to at the

585
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: end of the day too.

586
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: With that, like they would have to just do a

587
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 3: better job of training camp installs, you know what I'm saying,

588
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 3: making sure these things are getting drilled and making sure

589
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 3: these things are getting worked on, like just the simple,

590
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 3: the simple things. You know what I'm saying, if you

591
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: have dive, if you don't have dive, Like these are

592
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: the core values of the defenses. This is what we

593
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: have to do, you know what I'm saying, Like the

594
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: two motion and dudes around, like figuring out that stuff

595
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 3: so that all starts I think in training camp too.

596
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: But making sure like now just the time that they're

597
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 3: using like no, we're going to make it easier just

598
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: being able.

599
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: To get out there. I don't I don't like I

600
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: don't like that particular way to do it. Yeah, still

601
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: as in Ireland, Bay, So who they got with that?

602
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: Who they got Niland Vikings? He's talking about the Vikings.

603
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna go ahead and.

604
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: Beat them down over there. You know how it go, man,

605
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 2: That's just that's just what we do anyway. It still

606
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: is a beat writer.

607
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: They hinted at a renegade surprise in Ireland.

608
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know who's in control of this

609
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: renegade surprise. But don't surprise me again like y'all did

610
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: against Seattle, and play it by Seattle about to kick

611
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: the ball off so they could be hype as hell.

612
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: Please our kickoff team, yes, our kickoff team.

613
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, it was Seattle's kickoff I'm saying.

614
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: But we need to play it doing. I need to

615
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: play it on the third.

616
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: On defense right before it come.

617
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: Up, or a fourth something like that.

618
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: You don't want the crowd streaming and hollering when the

619
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: offense is on the field. You don't want the kickoff

620
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: team getting hype while they're about to kick the ball

621
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: off to us. And they all they doing is running

622
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: down there with their hair on fire, one hundred miles

623
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: an hour, trying to knock somebody's head off.

624
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, you gotta know the vibes. You gotta know

625
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 3: the time to play it. Please during an hour kickoff.

626
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: No question, yep.

627
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: Hey, let's get over here to your Browns, though, let's go.

628
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: Let's go, Dan Campbell, baby. He said, the Browns have

629
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: the best defense they have faced to date. Cambell said

630
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: the defense that Detroit's offense hasn't faced a defense as

631
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: good as Cleveland. Yet you see what they did to

632
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: Green Bay. This defense is real. This is probably the

633
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: best defense. Well we face Todate. What do you what

634
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: do you think of that statement? This is what I'm saying.

635
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: This is a smart coach, d ampble. He knows the

636
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: Browns are no bulletin board material here.

637
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: He's trying to rub the ego. You know what I'm saying.

638
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: He knows that stroke it.

639
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: Stroke the ego.

640
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: Tell me how good I am? Tell me how good

641
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 3: I am? So now the Browns defense goes in there

642
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: trying to chill. No, I love it, though. Dan Campbell's

643
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: a great coach. He's speaking facts. The Browns defense is

644
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: playing amazing, and I want them to continue to play

645
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: with their head on fire, knowing that they're coming in

646
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: against now Jabriel Gibbs and Montgomery. You know what I'm saying,

647
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: with those two headed monsters that can really tolt the ball.

648
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: So I mean, I respect everything that Dan Campbell saying.

649
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 3: He's speaking facts, but at the same time, he's speaking

650
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: to his team knowing what they have on that side

651
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: of the ball, what they have with their running game,

652
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 3: and what they're trying to bring to the game. So

653
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a big time, a

654
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: really good game with the Browns defense coming in there,

655
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: with playing at such a high level, everybody making plays

656
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: in all the different levels. But Dan Campbell is basically

657
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: speaking like, you know, I know they're good. I know

658
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: they're good, but talking to his team, he's ready to

659
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: come out there and like try to establish their dominance

660
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: because they're both physical teams.

661
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: Like that's the thing.

662
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: It's gonna be line versus line, D line versus the line,

663
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: different D line versus offensive line. Both of them are

664
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: gonna be trying to establish their dominance. So I think

665
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: it's gonna be just a really good game to watch.

666
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no question, like, we do the same thing.

667
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: You go ahead and coach y'all. Coach Kyle will tell

668
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: us like, yeah, you never give them bulletin board material.

669
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: You be respectful, You stroke that ego, You give them

670
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: all the all the comments that all the compliments that

671
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: you can, and what we go do is go out

672
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 2: here and prepare to try and destroy them.

673
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: He is.

674
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a he's a coach that was a player.

675
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: He knows how it goes. Sure, you know what I'm saying,

676
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: We're gon we're gonna respect them. You know what I'm saying,

677
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: everybody respect because that's what they deserve.

678
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: They're NFL team that coming out there. But they boots

679
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: on them. They're going to do this regardless if they improvise,

680
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: say anything like Browns like, We're gonna come out there

681
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: and run over them. Now I'm giving them some reason

682
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: to extra fire. No, let me tell them how good

683
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: they are. Just come in here thinking it's sweet and

684
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: then we're gonna bust your ash real quick and then

685
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: go about our business to the next one.

686
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: And I think that's what kind of happened with you know,

687
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: Green Bay. They went in there thinking, oh, it's Cleveland

688
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: and we go, you know, we go go in here

689
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: and do what it is what we do and not

690
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: thinking they really about to be in for a fight,

691
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: and they ended up losing the game because they didn't

692
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: realize how capable the defense was.

693
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: You remember your man was talking about, Oh, they was

694
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: going undefeated before they played the Browns the whole season.

695
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: They ain't just disrespect us. He wouldn't suspected the whole league.

696
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: Whole league. You got, you got, you got.

697
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: You gotta fight for your life for the next fourteen weeks. Brother,

698
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: something you said in week two, you know what I'm saying.

699
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: And then the first we got to you said that

700
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 3: they don't smacked up on you.

701
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: Back out now, co Yeah, twelve more of them, Like

702
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Man? That's just out of control. Man.

703
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: You gotta watch your mouth sometimes, man, no question.

704
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: Speaking of defense man, Kyle Helmington defended Baltimore Ravens coordinator

705
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: or today saying the sky is not falling.

706
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: They're only three games into the season.

707
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: Helvina said it's unfair to put all the blame on

708
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: him when they're eleven. When they are eleven guys out

709
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: there on the field and they're playing their hearts out,

710
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: and he puts us in the right positions. It's it's

711
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: just a matter of us doing the right stuff. The ravens.

712
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: What do you think he's saying. He's saying what we

713
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: were saying before. He's saying what.

714
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: We're saying, man, player. The thing I love about Kyle trash.

715
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: Like trash, you're playing bad and iron the sky don

716
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: lot your man is catching the ball. And I think

717
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: Kyle Hemelton is saying, how you gonna call on the

718
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: coach when we're getting beat.

719
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: We're not in the right spot. Somebody's running against them.

720
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: Every every play that that show shows us on the tape,

721
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 3: somebody's not in position.

722
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: So there's nothing that coach could do about that.

723
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 3: But to be on the field, Like, if somebody knocks

724
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: me out of my gap, what the hell coach gonna call?

725
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 3: That's gonna make me better to be in my gap,

726
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So I think Kyle is

727
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: taking the player the responsibility of Like, end of the day,

728
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: we're out there, we're not communicating right. If we were

729
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: on the right page, and if we were looking at

730
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 3: the place and everybody was in the position and somehow

731
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: we were gonna beat then that's a whole different situation.

732
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: But they just putting us in.

733
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: A position to in the defense, then yeah, go ahead,

734
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: throw that on the coordinator. But you're talking about guys

735
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 2: being there just not making the play, or guys totally

736
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: blowing an assignment and not being supposed to be that's

737
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: like you said, that's that's the that's the that's the

738
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: eleven guys out there.

739
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: That's eleven guys out there that has nothing to do.

740
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 2: I mean, Baltimore is currently thirty second in totally yards,

741
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: thirty different run defense, thirty first in past defense, and

742
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: thirty first in points allowed.

743
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: Like they're dead last.

744
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: Like I don't I don't know what else you could say,

745
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: Like that's and when you, like I said, when you

746
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 2: watch the games, it's not.

747
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: That they're you know, they're just getting you.

748
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: Know, out of position, that they're hitting weaknesses in the defense.

749
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: It's nothing like that they're getting beat pushed around, missing tackles,

750
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: missing assignments. Like at some point you got to go

751
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: out there and do your job. Hamilton also added he said,

752
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes Ravens can be a little spoiled,

753
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: just like the amount of success this franchise has had.

754
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: We lost five games in twenty twenty four in the

755
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: world is about to again.

756
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,479
Speaker 1: You think Ravens fans are.

757
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 3: I guess spoiled by the success I mean for the

758
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 3: last since since Lamar Jackson has been there, they've won

759
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 3: a lot of games.

760
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

761
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 3: I mean going like their playoff success hasn't been great.

762
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: We're to the point now when we know the Raves

763
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 3: are gonna be good. How far they're gonna get in

764
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: the playoffs? Can they beat the Chiefs? Can they beat

765
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: the Bills? They're always been in AFC since Lamar Jackson's

766
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: been there, so I can see what I'm saying getting comfortable.

767
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, the players got

768
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 3: to walk into the stadium and win the games.

769
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: So like, if.

770
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: You're not performing to a high level and you're giving

771
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: up you have the thirty first ranked depense in a

772
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: lot of categories, that's not on the fans, you know

773
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. They have a reason to be like

774
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 3: this is like if you were like fifteenth or tenth

775
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: or something like that, and they're like, man, come on, man,

776
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: we were number one, bro last like they got they

777
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: got calls to pause and be like, you got to

778
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 3: make some tackles.

779
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: You gotta be like spoiled.

780
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: Nah No, listen, man, y'all did last, if not second

781
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: to last, in every category that you got defensively right now.

782
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: So it's not about being being spoiled.

783
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: It's about y'all playing like absolute trash playing they're upset, dude.

784
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: I remember, like you said, I remember when we was

785
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: in you know, when I was with theer is from

786
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: two thousand and seven when I started until twenty twelve.

787
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: We want one one, five to one one. That was

788
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: our defensive ranking.

789
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: Dude.

790
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: When we were five, we were like, bruh, we're trash.

791
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: We like bro. We asked like what are we doing

792
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: out here? Man?

793
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: And that was you know, that was a five. It's

794
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: not a situation like that and crazy. It's like some

795
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: of the fans were saying the same thing, but we

796
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: was a five.

797
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: Ranked defense Like that was that that? Right there?

798
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: Is that right there is when they could be a

799
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 3: little what do he say? What was he saying that

800
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: the fans a little spoiled boiled? Yeah, that's when a

801
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: little spoiled if you go for one, one, two, five, Man,

802
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: what y'all doing out here?

803
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: Spoil if you go we are one one thirty one,

804
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: you can ask src. We was like, bro, what's going

805
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: like we trash? What's going on? Bro?

806
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: Like and we really thought we was trash, Like like

807
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: we five, like we like what's going on?

808
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: Like that's you know what I'm saying? Yeah, No, that's

809
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: the standard though. That y'all gotta say that's lit.

810
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: Oh man, man, no question, that's like Brian that success

811
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: that like just you know, even when I came in,

812
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: that was just what it was like my ogs, you know,

813
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: Jason Giller and Jeordy Porter like like, this is what

814
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: it is, this is the standard, like and they went

815
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: out there, did it, showed it worked it from off

816
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: the field to on the field, and everything that they

817
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 2: did was in pursuit of a championship. Dude, Like, do

818
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: you since that Baltimore's championship window might be starting to

819
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 2: close here?

820
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that it's starting to close.

821
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: I think that Do you think the fans may think

822
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: it's starting to close?

823
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 3: Then I think the fans may start. I think the

824
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: fans may start. I think the fans are just worried

825
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 3: about right now. They still got Lamar. As long as

826
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 3: you got Lamar, they got a chance. But I think

827
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: that the defense ain't happening. Dude, they got Lamar, and

828
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: look what's happening.

829
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: I mean, they can't they can't get over how bad

830
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: the defense is.

831
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: The defense, like I said with Kyle haml and I

832
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: think I know he's a baller, and I know that

833
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: they have players.

834
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: It's not the players.

835
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 3: The players have to play better, and if they don't

836
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 3: start playing better, it's going to continue to show. And

837
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: I don't think it's nothing that the defensive coordinator can do.

838
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: So I think that these dudes got to start physically

839
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 3: individuals each one eleven, start playing better, looking at the tape.

840
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: Making sure that they make these plays.

841
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: So, I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not going to

842
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 3: root them out.

843
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I mean I'm not it's

844
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: not looking good.

845
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: Listen, an you're going to root them out, waste the

846
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: talents of Lamar Jackson.

847
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: It's not like every year is going to be the same.

848
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 2: He's going to start to decline at some point, and

849
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: you need to be able to take advantage of that.

850
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: You know, you're not going to have those same fifty

851
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: three guys on the roster each year, and when you

852
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: lose one guy at this position or that position that

853
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: was a key, you know, role player.

854
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: That can be the difference between you getting.

855
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: In the playoffs, not getting the plows, winning the super Bowl,

856
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 2: not winning the Super Bowl. I think it's a little

857
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: bit of a window starting to close, especially if they

858
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: cannot fix that defense, because it's almost like it doesn't

859
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: matter what he does. If they don't score every possession,

860
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: they're not going to be able to win because the

861
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: defense is dead last and everything and can't stop nothing.

862
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: Like now, you're right, the defense don't the defense doesn't improve,

863
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 3: they're going to they don't. They don't stand a chance thousand.

864
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying, can they do you think they can improve?

865
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: Is the question? Do you think they will improve? Is

866
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: the question? Do you ask? That's the that's the that's

867
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: the hard thing. I think.

868
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: I don't know who they get to play next. I

869
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: think they need a game that is like one of

870
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: those easier games like yo, we gotta fight a little

871
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: but and then like go out there and have tremendous success.

872
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: I think it'll give them some confidence. But you're just

873
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: like the mising tackles thing is hard. That's something. I mean,

874
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 2: I know it's early. I hope they don't fix it

875
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: at least before they play the Steelers twice. Like that's it. Like,

876
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. They played the Chiefs this week, right,

877
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: I think they played the Chiefs this week in Kansas City.

878
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: All right, So this is what I'm gonna do, or

879
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: this is what I'm gonna say. Dude, there's no way

880
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: they shouldn't be Kansas City. But if they lose that,

881
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: they ain't gonna get it fixed this year. If they

882
00:41:53,680 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 2: win that, it got a possibility of getting fixed this year. Joe,

883
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: where are you at?

884
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: Joe? You're hitting you yo yo yo, you're hitting you bro.

885
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: Oh no, Somebody looking like what is he? My bad?

886
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: I said? I wanted I know I.

887
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: Was okay, bad, No more, no more, mute.

888
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: I was trying to say.

889
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out how the game is played out.

890
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 3: Though you said they played the Chiefs. I heard you clearly, though, Debo,

891
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 3: me and you we and we did.

892
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: We never lost. I want to see how the game

893
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: plays out.

894
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: I want to see how what the defense looks like,

895
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 3: what they can do against Patrick Mahomes the day if

896
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: they can create some sacks, if they can get some turnovers,

897
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: if they can just be in their gash, if they

898
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: just don't have people running around like Scott Free.

899
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like just play trying.

900
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 3: To get on to have a good game as a

901
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 3: defensive team. No, no bust, just looking fluid, looking like

902
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 3: that're running some stuff. So I mean offensive wise, like

903
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 3: we said. But that's the thing too with the Ravens

904
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: playing against is Patrick Mahomes and it's the Bills For

905
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, I think during the regular season, it's he's

906
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 3: gonna ball out regardless, I think it's I think he's

907
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 3: gonna hoop because that's just what he does.

908
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: I just want to see when the game gets close.

909
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 3: Is it tight at the end the fourth quarter, Who's

910
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 3: gonna make those plays? Whose defense going to make those stops?

911
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 3: Because I don't think it's going to be a blowout,

912
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I think that these two

913
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: teams that are really really capable once you get to

914
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: the fourth that's what's going to determine what happens in

915
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 3: the game.

916
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: Hey got a question. Yes, remember dude name Orlando Brown Junior. Yes,

917
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: I do, Well, he said, it's welcome to the NFL

918
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: moment came from you. Let's take a listen, bro, And.

919
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 4: I see him dip blow and he lit my big

920
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 4: ass up.

921
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: What was your welcome to the NFL moment?

922
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 5: People never expect to hear this, but I got TJ.

923
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 5: Watt one on one all game play. My ass off

924
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 5: was out there snapping. But early in that game, like

925
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 5: the first series, pulled around the toss crack and I.

926
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 4: See Joe Hayden as me and him.

927
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 5: I'm just kicking out the corner and I see him

928
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 5: diplow and he lit my big ass up. Man, I

929
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 5: was I was seeing stars tingly on the right side

930
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 5: and it was right in front of Mike Tomlin. I'll

931
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 5: never forget because I'm looking at I'm pulling. I'm like, man,

932
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 5: it's a five fult What the hell this dude?

933
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

934
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that that was like for me, that was

935
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 4: like a wake up call, like all right, man, it's different.

936
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah, I don't know if I've been caught

937
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 4: slipping like that.

938
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

939
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah you heard it. You heard it.

940
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 2: Live place, de bro cool man, Well hey it got

941
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: you one, Bro, Okay, I'm.

942
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: Trying to tell you that's the one thing I remember.

943
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 1: I definitely remember that bro.

944
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 3: I lifted his ass up so good right in front

945
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 3: of coach t same for the same shoulder.

946
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: I need, hey, hey, on the way in though, What

947
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: was you thinking I'm about I'm thinking he thinks I'm slipping.

948
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: He thinks he's gonna fold me. I got something for

949
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: his ass, That's what I'm thinking. Him in front of

950
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: the bench.

951
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like this, you don't get same foot, same shoulder.

952
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 5: All that.

953
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: He was hoping you wasn't gonna come in there with that.

954
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: He was probably looking to go ahead, swallow you up,

955
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: just grab like that, go ahead.

956
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: And yes cool. Who but a whoa yep yep, yep,

957
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: yep yep.

958
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: Paus pauls admirable, admirable pass, no question, but debo. I'm

959
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 3: trying to tell you this, the one thing that you

960
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 3: always said that the coach will say this too, Like

961
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 3: everybody got something dirty to their job.

962
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: Everybody got some dirty And if.

963
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 3: You got the if you the n man, you got

964
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 3: anough in in this crack for place, you gotta replace.

965
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: If there's a pulling edge, you gotta come set that edge,

966
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: and I wonder if I respect it. I love being

967
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: the cover corner, but at the same time, I'm not

968
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: afraid to come hit.

969
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: Like that's what football is. Eversus was a kid.

970
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: We're trying to like I'm trying to, yeah, catch somebody

971
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 3: slipping or anything like that.

972
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: So now I'm like, all.

973
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 3: Right, bet these are big dudes whatever they come around

974
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: the corner.

975
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: But it's no, I'm not gonna do it.

976
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,959
Speaker 3: I don't have to do it every single play because

977
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: I'm a corner, but when I do have to get

978
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: my hat dirty, I'm gonna come in this joint and

979
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 3: get my hat dirty. And that's why I love people

980
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: on my team. They respect it because I love tackling.

981
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I never I never never

982
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: duck contact. Oh no question. You gotta come in there.

983
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: You gotta come in there one of them times, at

984
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 2: least early, and you got to get what they looking

985
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: for or what they ain't looking for. They thinking you're

986
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: gonna come in there and do a do a shake.

987
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: You coming there and raise ony. Now that next one,

988
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: don't come in there like that. He gonna dievent you

989
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: de bo.

990
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.

991
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 3: No, deep I don't want I want no more parts

992
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 3: of Orlando now.

993
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: He would have came and smacked me, but I had

994
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: to get my one off on him for sure. Oh man,

995
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: I want no part of the Orlando now. Brother, No, no, no, I.

996
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: Gave him at one early the Eagles, Man, they going on,

997
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: They going down to Tampa. Begger Mayfield said. Traveling early

998
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 2: won't help the Eagles with the heat. What's the what's

999
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: the what's the hottest game you ever played? What's the

1000
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 2: hottest weather you ever played?

1001
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: In?

1002
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 3: Man, I could just say the hottest weather I ever

1003
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 3: played and had to be when I was at the

1004
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: University of Florida during training camps at Florida's Okay training

1005
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: camps in Florida was the hottest whether I've ever been

1006
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: in my life.

1007
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 1: Had to be in the hundreds for show.

1008
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: And you would see you would just look out de

1009
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: boat and you would just see like you'll be looking

1010
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 3: at your homie, but if he was like ten yards

1011
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 3: away from you, it looked.

1012
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: Like it was you could see heat waves in between,

1013
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was like this, what

1014
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: the fuck is that?

1015
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 3: And the coach, coach Mario be like, yeah, that's hell.

1016
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, You'll just be standing there.

1017
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: Sometimes you wouldn't know why you were so exhausted because

1018
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: you just be drenched your socks, just mushing everything. Yeah,

1019
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 3: down to your shoes are. I'm like this, I didn't

1020
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 3: do nothing in the water. It's hot out here. And

1021
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: then you got to change your socks because it's like

1022
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: you have literally drenched, wet and you're just getting the

1023
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: exhaustion happens. You get to be standing there and just

1024
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: sweat running down your body.

1025
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: And it's humid. The humidity, it's just that that heat that.

1026
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 3: When you step outside, it's just sweaty and muggy, so

1027
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: like fluorida. Gator can't heat nothing like it. And we

1028
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 3: was on turf.

1029
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh my yeah yeah oh man. That's like

1030
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 1: your feet on fire too. That burning at the box.

1031
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 2: That's like training the AZ dude, like literally standing on

1032
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 2: ice in between reps to cool your cleats off because

1033
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 2: your feet is burning, Like you can't.

1034
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 1: Can't do it no other way, dude, it don't happen.

1035
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't know why you would

1036
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 2: travel early just for the heat, Like.

1037
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: Let's you know, they ain't gonna adapt you right right.

1038
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: What we would do is when you know we had

1039
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: a game that was supposed to be like warm or something,

1040
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 2: you just go to the endoor, turn the last the

1041
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: heat up that you know you aredapt that way. That

1042
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: way you get a whole you know, you get a

1043
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: whole week of little trying. Especially you know up north

1044
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: it's cold. You know, whenever you're going down there, you know,

1045
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 2: a little in between the seasons.

1046
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: So throw you inside, throw the heat up exactly, and

1047
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: keep the facility exactly.

1048
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless they just wanted to go early because you

1049
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: down there in Tampa, you know.

1050
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's the opposite debo down I don't know, Hey, coach,

1051
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 3: coach might wanted to go early, you know, playing physically,

1052
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 3: man the.

1053
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: Main thing, keep the main thing, the main thing. Yeah,

1054
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: you keep the main thing, the main thing.

1055
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: But you and I both noticed some some some people

1056
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: don't always keep the main thing the main thing.

1057
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: I know, I know. That's why I would have brought

1058
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: them down last minute.

1059
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: Last minute. I'm bringing out the latest possible. Y'all, go

1060
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: get a good, nice sleep, We go laying.

1061
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: Had a nicely. Then play this game. Good little food,

1062
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: good little meat. I ain't giving you I ain't give

1063
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: you no free time, dude. Bad check check.

1064
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, man, I'm gonna tell you. So I went,

1065
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: and we go out to California, dude, and we meet early.

1066
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, why are we leaving early?

1067
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: Dude?

1068
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 2: Like we was there for like like two or three

1069
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: days before the game.

1070
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I like this at all, Like and

1071
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: curfew like curfew.

1072
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 2: You go curfew me on a day that you wouldn't

1073
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: even curfew me at the crib.

1074
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 1: So why you It ain't like I'm going nowhere.

1075
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 2: I just it's just you just told me I couldn't

1076
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 2: even if it wanted to.

1077
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 1: It's the principal. Yeah, the principality. I don't. I don't

1078
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: like that. And when you go Cali the other way,

1079
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: you get time. M hm.

1080
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: So you could actually, you know, afford to leave a

1081
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 2: little later. I would think, you know, but I don't know.

1082
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 2: But that was the only time, actually, that's the only

1083
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: time I've ever went early for a game.

1084
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: It with a Cali trip.

1085
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was with Cincinnati. But any other time,

1086
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: we won't go early. We go with the normal time.

1087
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: Make sure you get yourself in bed early. That's it.

1088
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: I think we did the same. We tried to go.

1089
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 3: I think we went out there. I think we might

1090
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 3: have went the day early. But the crazy part we

1091
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 3: only went the day early, but we kept the time

1092
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: the same time like we left like like so we

1093
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 3: would go to sleep. We were acting like we were

1094
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 3: still in like Pittsburgh while we were in La like

1095
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 3: the times and with the curfuse and with this guy.

1096
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 3: So nobody would really like throw it off. So when

1097
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 3: you got out there, you kind of tried to go

1098
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 3: to sleep same time. Like it was literally like we

1099
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 3: were still there playing at a like four o'clock game

1100
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 3: instead of being one of something something like that. However,

1101
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 3: they did it, but the math maththed up, so we

1102
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 3: didn't change our time clock in our head at all.

1103
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: It was actually dope, Yeah, for sure, for sure. So Shane,

1104
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: is that stitching Matthew?

1105
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: He said, Matthew Stafford is probably one of the best

1106
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 2: to ever do it.

1107
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: Do you think Stafford is a Hall of Famer?

1108
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 3: I I do, I do, I do, I do, I do,

1109
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 3: I do I do.

1110
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to my bulldog. He wanted. This

1111
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: is the thing people always say.

1112
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: But he got him a Super Bowl too, So for

1113
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: everybody else's stats, but just me as a watching him

1114
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 3: throw the ball what he did all of those years

1115
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 3: in Detroit, I'm not gonna knock him for not being

1116
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 3: able to win playoff games or make them go deep

1117
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 3: into spots in his in his career. I don't think

1118
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 3: that's that's his fault. I think that he had him

1119
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 3: and Calvin Johnson his numbers, and the way that he

1120
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 3: performed and the way he fought through injuries and the

1121
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: way that he basically led Detroit was kind of the

1122
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: only bright spot out there for a long time. I

1123
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 3: don't think that's his fault. And then for him to

1124
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: be able to go to the Rams in that year,

1125
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: go win a Super Bowl, being able to show like

1126
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 3: if I do have a squad with me, if I

1127
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 3: am surrounded by great players.

1128
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1129
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: With defense, offense, coaching staff, I'm not the reason why

1130
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 3: we weren't successful, you know what I'm saying. I think

1131
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 3: he was there for a little bit longer in Detroit

1132
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: that I think he would if he went to win

1133
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 3: somewhere else, he could have more Super Bowls.

1134
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: Maybe not, but.

1135
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 3: It's seen that he did go somewhere win one and

1136
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: with his numbers, with the way that I see him

1137
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 3: just throwing the football, with his numbers from the eye test,

1138
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: he looks like just all the different angles, all the

1139
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 3: different passes he can complete.

1140
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of his. I played him in college.

1141
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: He played at.

1142
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 3: Georgia, I was at Florida, So I've been watching his

1143
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 3: career ever since he got drafted. So he's definitely in

1144
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 3: my eyes. And just his consistency, long jevity, great dude,

1145
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 3: stayed out of trouble, being a consistent leader. You know,

1146
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 3: if you got Matthew Stafford, he's not going to be

1147
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: in the press. He's not going to do any drama.

1148
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 3: He's going to bring football. He's gonna be a great quarterback.

1149
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: He's not going to do anything to make your franchise,

1150
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 3: to to down your franchise or make them any stain

1151
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 3: on it. So I respect him. I really really like

1152
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford. I think that he's a he's a Hall

1153
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: of Famer, and I don't think he's done yet.

1154
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: I think he's still gonna play.

1155
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: He's still got a couple more years left, and uh, yeah,

1156
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 3: for sure, I definitely think Matthew Staff's.

1157
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 1: Is a Hall of Famer. I don't.

1158
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll say he is or isn't

1159
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer. I'm just not on like his

1160
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 2: total body of work, especially with when he was in Detroit.

1161
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: I think you know he had Calvin. That's you know

1162
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: that that's a big help.

1163
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

1164
00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: It feels like now that if a quarterback go and

1165
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: wins a Super Bowl and has the eye test of numbers,

1166
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 2: then you know, it's like he's automatically a Hall of Famer.

1167
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's not.

1168
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: You know, yes, you have a you have a great

1169
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: run here and there like he you know he did

1170
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: with la Uh. You have quarterbacks that you know, do

1171
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 2: the same thing, have a you know, have a couple

1172
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: of great runs, you know, get a super Bowl, and

1173
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: now you know it's you know, it's Hall of Fame.

1174
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: I think it has to be like like more to it,

1175
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 2: Like did I fear that player?

1176
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: When you know I was I concerned about that.

1177
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: That player, Like when you know you play certain quarterbacks,

1178
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, we know that we got to make

1179
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 2: sure we don't let him beat us, Like we gotta

1180
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: we gotta play tight, We got we gotta be.

1181
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 1: We gotta secure our tackles.

1182
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 2: And then it's some quarterbacks You're like, you know what,

1183
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: wait for your opportunity.

1184
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: At some point he gonna hit you in the face

1185
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: foot the ball. You know.

1186
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: So I don't know if just you know, one, two, three,

1187
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 2: you know, years of a good run, a great run,

1188
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 2: whatever it may be, is it's Hall of Fame.

1189
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: I'm I just feel like.

1190
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying like this about any particular one person,

1191
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: but I just feel like it's getting it's getting easier

1192
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 2: to get into the Hall of Fame rights, it's really

1193
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 2: getting getting a little like watered down, you know, like

1194
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: like Deon Sanders was saying, like they need to have

1195
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 2: a different room for you know, guys that are those

1196
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: you know, first ballot type guys or something like that,

1197
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: because you know, right now it seems you.

1198
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: Know, if you you know, if if you're.

1199
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: Like a head coach and you gotta win the record,

1200
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta super Bowl now your Hall of Fame.

1201
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: You know.

1202
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 3: Uh, so I know what you're saying, you want you're

1203
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 3: not trying to get Just let everybody go hold is

1204
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 3: this more making more quarterbacks with a Super Bowl?

1205
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: My thing is this, did you change the game.

1206
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 2: Did they did they did they fear you, respect you?

1207
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: Did they have to do everything? Like? It was? It was?

1208
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: It was it was game plan to stop you or

1209
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 2: was it a situation where you know what, we need

1210
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: to stop this. Like you're going to a game and

1211
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 2: you're like, you know what, Hey, we're not going to

1212
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: let this running back beat us. We're going to stop

1213
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: the run and they're going to have to use their

1214
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: quarterback and he's going to have to throw them into

1215
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: a win. That's things that we would do, especially like

1216
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: underdicular Bowl. We know that they passed the ball. Great,

1217
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: whatever it is, Okay, we're going to do everything we

1218
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 2: can to double the stars.

1219
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, you double this whatever.

1220
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: We're going to take them away and make them have

1221
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: to beat us either running the ball, which they're not

1222
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 2: going to do, or using a different receiver. So my

1223
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: thing is, if they didn't game plan for you like that,

1224
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: and now you have the numbers to go with it,

1225
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: you impacted the game.

1226
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you changed the game. You know what I'm saying.

1227
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: Hines Ward, They chimes Ward changed the game. They made

1228
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: crackback rules because of hines Ward. Okay, yeah, like in

1229
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: a time where they weren't passing like now, like that

1230
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: was a person that they had to game plan for.

1231
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: Heins was gonna do catch that rock and still bust

1232
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: your middle linebacker in the.

1233
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: Mouth like players like that.

1234
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, yeah, I can see that right there,

1235
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 2: the total body at work. But coming in you know.

1236
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: Two three, I.

1237
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 3: Think, I think, I think the Hall of Fame Hall

1238
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 3: of Fame talk is a really good talk about just

1239
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: the how we think people should be able to get in.

1240
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, is it on not

1241
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: not only a couple of runs like you said, different

1242
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 3: rooms and not first ballot Hall of famers?

1243
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: Those dudes diffinitely, when is he ever gonna could he

1244
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: ever get into the hall? Fourth ballo?

1245
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, There's definite levels to the

1246
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 3: first ballot Hall of Famer.

1247
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: You look at look at you know what I'm saying,

1248
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: Terrell owners.

1249
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: You take Terrell Owens, and you take his numbers, and

1250
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: you put everything up there, and you erase his name

1251
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: first ballot because he was Terrell Owens. And the reporters

1252
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: and all the other stuff didn't like to do. They

1253
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: got this is their chance now to oh I ain't

1254
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 2: like him. So I'm gonna get my get back. I'm

1255
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: gonna hold him out. No, it's no way like it's

1256
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: no way he ended up getting He ended.

1257
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: Up he ended up getting in. But that's exactly. But

1258
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying.

1259
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 2: The people that are making these judgments, they have their

1260
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 2: own personal vendettas of their own with different players to oh,

1261
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: this is my time to go ahead and assert my dominance.

1262
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: Now I can get I could get some revenge for whatever.

1263
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: It is that it may be. You know, look at

1264
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: ab Hey, look brother.

1265
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: Ill not a B will not.

1266
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: I do not believe a B will get in first ball.

1267
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't believe. I don't.

1268
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: I can't even give any situation where if he gets in,

1269
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: he is if he gets in.

1270
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: Think about this, that's what guys voting for it.

1271
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: Now, if you cut it's numbers there, you take out

1272
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 2: all the off field, yes, all the stuff that wasn't

1273
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: actually football out of it, and you just look at

1274
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: his work, his numbers.

1275
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 3: It's balance, yes, and what are we talking about?

1276
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 2: Like a thousand per chances are he may not see

1277
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 2: it until.

1278
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: It's way past that. He's he's not going to see it.

1279
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: He might get senior category.

1280
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 3: Since they did it to t O and he was

1281
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 3: on the field and they gave him like second or

1282
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 3: third a B I don't they be well like you said,

1283
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 3: like we both just said.

1284
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: Longer than second or third? No?

1285
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 2: What yo?

1286
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: What was yo? When they had him waiting? It had

1287
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: him waiting years? Bro, It had to be like ten

1288
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: years yo? What what? What? What? How many times was

1289
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: it that t O? But he got in? Yeah, but

1290
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: you say so, I know t O waited a couple

1291
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: of ballots, but you said he.

1292
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: Waited more than a couple, bro. He literally just got in,

1293
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 2: not even what five six years ago?

1294
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: Right, Well, if you got a five, but don't you

1295
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 3: gotta wait, You gotta wait at least five once you

1296
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 3: get once you retired.

1297
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm saying, like, how many ballots he went through?

1298
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: Oh you say he went through five ballots?

1299
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 3: He ain't get into the third third? Okay, third third ballot? Yes,

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Speaker 3: he should have been first off, rip. He should have

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Speaker 3: been first off rip. That's what we were in the same.

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Speaker 3: We're in the same, like we're looking crazy.

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Speaker 1: He made it to the third like and but Calvin first.

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Speaker 3: Calvin first, Colvin first, Colvin first, Calvin years Calvin Clean,

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Speaker 3: Calvin Clean, right.

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Speaker 2: Clean, Crystal order. You know what I'm saying, Like they

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Speaker 2: liked you, they love that. You're gonna get stuff for

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Speaker 2: that for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yes, But I'm saying, so what I mean, I just

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Speaker 3: know as a talent, AB's hall of fame, like crazy

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Speaker 3: hall of fame like that room to Dion talking about

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Speaker 3: hall of fame, the other hall of But then when

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Speaker 3: you want to say, you're gonna add in like is

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Speaker 3: it a hall of fame like the way that he acted?

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Speaker 1: Whatever, people want to put that in.

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Speaker 2: So then I'm they it ain't people. It's then forty

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Speaker 2: something people that are voting these room. That's what I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about. Them we get to go ahead and and

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Speaker 2: you know, take their revenge like.

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Speaker 1: Pure numbers. Everybody come on to stop it. Everybody know,

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Speaker 1: but like's twelve o six some point.

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Speaker 2: The guys that's in there, they need to be like,

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Speaker 2: you know what. The guys that's in are the guys

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Speaker 2: that's going to vote other guys in. They know, ball

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Speaker 2: these these dudes out here taking revenge.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no hall of fame. Say, hey, I gotta

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Speaker 3: look at that. Who I'm gonna check.

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Speaker 1: I gotta check the I gotta let the voter check

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Speaker 1: the voters. The voter we're gonna check on the voters,

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Speaker 1: got to Yeah, yeah for sure, Like I just yeah, dude,

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Speaker 1: I really don't understand that. God. Anyway, we about out

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Speaker 1: of time.

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Speaker 2: Look here, man, we want to thank you all again

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Speaker 2: for joining us on this episode. Debo and Joe, please

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01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 2: hit the like and subscribe button and watch the Steller

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Speaker 2: Game Sunday at ninety thirty and we'll be back here

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Speaker 2: on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Joseph, you have anything to say to the people, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 3: Make sure you come check in on us Monday Live.

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Speaker 3: We will have the report from what happened on the

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01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 3: Stealers game and Island what they look like, and my

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01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 3: good old brownies.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, go ahead and listen. Drink a pine again

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Speaker 1: us we are