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Speaker 1: Least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Drive and allowing your room, Matt. That

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Speaker 1: was something different today doing a show after a loss. Right,

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Speaker 1: been quite a while. It's been a long, long while. Um,

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Speaker 1: actually since well last year against Baltimore Week seventeen against Baltimore, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Steelers losing to the Washington football team seventeen on the

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Speaker 1: Monday night slash afternoon whatever you wanna call um. They

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Speaker 1: led to the entire They led that game until they

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Speaker 1: were just over two minutes left. They did. They were

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Speaker 1: also outscored twenty two three in the second half. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to talk about in that game, and

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to do it. And this, by no

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Speaker 1: means is making an excuse for for the Steelers, because

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Speaker 1: this is football. But they look like a tired team

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Speaker 1: to me. They look like a team has played three

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Speaker 1: games in twelve days and hasn't really had a buy

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Speaker 1: and injuries are starting to settle in. And they weren't

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Speaker 1: the same team in the second half as they were

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Speaker 1: in the first. And I think you gotta get Washington

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Speaker 1: a lot of credit. They played hard, um, but the

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Speaker 1: self inflicted you know, self inflicted wounds that this team's

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Speaker 1: committed to itself over the last two weeks aren't excusable.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not excusing them away with fatigue, but they

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Speaker 1: get something to do with it. Well, you also started

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Speaker 1: that game yesterday without seven starters. They're beat up. You

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Speaker 1: lost two more in the second half of the game

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Speaker 1: on your defense where you couldn't afford to lose them. Um.

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Speaker 1: And so I think that kind of caught up with

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Speaker 1: if they have Chris Boswell in that game, they probably

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Speaker 1: win it. It's a good point. I mean obviously that

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Speaker 1: they don't pass on the field goal attempt with with

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Speaker 1: game a little bit differently. Um. Just a trust factor,

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Speaker 1: and that's he's a big starter for this team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, we saw what it looked like in team

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Speaker 1: when they didn't have a solid place kicker, when Boswell

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Speaker 1: had a bad year. We saw what that looked like

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Speaker 1: three or four wins right in not having him available yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I think, really, I'm not gonna put it all on

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Speaker 1: that and I'm not putting I'm not putting it on

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Speaker 1: Matthew right or anything like it. There's nothing, there's nothing

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Speaker 1: that says if they kicked that field goal, that Washington

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Speaker 1: doesn't go down and kick that the next field go anyways,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, but it does change the events that happened

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Speaker 1: after that a little bit. It's certainly a factor. It's

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Speaker 1: Even last week it was very obvious to focus on

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Speaker 1: the JV team that the Ravens had out there, but

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Speaker 1: the Steelers without Pouncey Connor to it, you know, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

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Speaker 1: That's a big deal too, you know, like there and

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Speaker 1: then to play another one in five days against a

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Speaker 1: very arrested team. I'm not excusing things away because arrest

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Speaker 1: and you know where this team is in terms of

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Speaker 1: their um injuries and how fresh they are. But they

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Speaker 1: could use a buy right now. It's you know, in

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Speaker 1: many ways, they're back on a normal work schedule to

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Speaker 1: They had the last two games have not been on

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Speaker 1: they didn't play that that Ravens game when they expected

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Speaker 1: so there were avens they exposed some things against the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing that stuff, that kind of stuff, first

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Speaker 1: the Steelers didn't have any Washington, true Washington specific plays

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Speaker 1: The last five games, UH, they've run the ball. They're

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Speaker 1: They ran for over hundred yards against Cincinnati. UH in

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Speaker 1: their first seven games, they averaged a hundred eighteen yards rushing.

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Speaker 1: The differences in those first the last five games, they've

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Speaker 1: got you know, now it looks like your your numbers

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Speaker 1: broke one, right, You can't break one if you don't

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Speaker 1: this conversation, on just this conversation. And you said something

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Speaker 1: And you know, he's been the offensive coordinator and there's

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Speaker 1: not a quarterback in the league. Who is going to

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Speaker 1: Stealers are still alive? Still alive? About that? Right? Um?

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Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not ready to jump off the show.

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Speaker 1: But you can't. You can't you go into these games

427
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Speaker 1: and play like you did the last two games. No, No,

428
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean you'll beat the Bengals playing that way. The

429
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: other three you could lose to Yeah, I mean, assuming

430
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: that they played close to their best game. No, you're

431
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: but this is still a team that beat Cleveland thirty

432
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: seven in Week six. How often is then with this team?

433
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: This is still you know, is as close as some

434
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: of those games looked on the scoreboard early in the season,

435
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 1: the Giants sixteen, it was not that close. Denver was one,

436
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: it was not that close. Houston was one. It was

437
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 1: not that close. You know, the game, the Philadelphia game.

438
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: These games were never in doubt. They handled You could

439
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 1: look at the scores ago, well that was a close game.

440
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: They barely beat No, they didn't barely beat I mean,

441
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: you know, we we had this conversation. I think I

442
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: texted you over the weekend that you know, Kansas City

443
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 1: has won its last four games by combined fifteen points.

444
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 1: Now you could look at that and say, well, that's

445
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: game against Tampa was never in question because okay, but

446
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: it's still it's still ended up. The Box were a

447
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: better team in the second half of that game. Absolutely

448
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: stop playing man coverage against Tyreek Island and things weren't

449
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: as easy the game against Denver. They were not clearly

450
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: the better team in that game. They weren't. That was

451
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: a very evenly It was a hard funk game. If

452
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: if Drew Lock was a better quarterback, Denver might win

453
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: that game. I mean, they had a very good game plan.

454
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: Their red zone defense was excellent, had some success on

455
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: the ground. And I was gonna say that before. You know,

456
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: like Tomlin has admitted, this is not a perfect team.

457
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 1: You know, I think perfect is the record. Well, folks,

458
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are far from perfect. To the Saints have issues.

459
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: There's not a perfect team out there. It was right,

460
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Speaker 1: I mean, it just doesn't get brought up by the

461
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: national media because their records weren't perfect, you know, that's

462
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: the thing. Yeah, it's easy to say. And heck, I

463
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: said about the Packers all last year. This is the

464
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: worst third team and three team I've ever seen. Well, okay,

465
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Speaker 1: if they were sixty, what to said it too? I

466
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: mean I would have been one of those guys is

467
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: But nobody says it with the Chiefs because they're not

468
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: undefeated or the same and they won the Super Bowl

469
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: last and they're a very very good team. And there's

470
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: a lot of very good teams out there, but none

471
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: of them are heads above the rest in my opinion. No,

472
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: I agree, And so you know, Washington caught the Steelers

473
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: at the right time, perfect timing. It's good timing. They

474
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: had the extra rest, they had the time to prepare,

475
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: and they're playing better and they're playing they're playing better football.

476
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: But you know, I I look at the way the

477
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Speaker 1: schedule finishes up, and yes, a couple of these games

478
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: are at night. The next tour at night, Buffaloes at night,

479
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: Sincinnati's at night. That does That doesn't bother me at all,

480
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: because I know this team shows up for prime time games.

481
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: Tomlin's history a night's pretty good. It's pretty good, and

482
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: I also know that these games, unless unless something happens

483
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: you're crazy with the schedule, they're going to be, you know, Sunday, Monday, Sunday, Sunday.

484
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be on Wednesday night or Wednesday afternoon.

485
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be a Monday afternoon game. Yes, you knows.

486
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,239
Speaker 1: With these guys are coaches, players, the whole teams are

487
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: massive creatures a habit, and when you mess with that habit,

488
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: it definitely has a negative effect on teams. I know

489
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: that for a fact. That's not an excuse. I mean

490
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean the other teams right right, right right,

491
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: But the Seers have gone through a lot of it

492
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks and changing their routine again

493
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: not in I keep bringing it up to though, But

494
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 1: now there's you got injuries settled in. I mean, they

495
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: could use some rest and maybe seven days is perfect amount.

496
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying they need to take the

497
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: next three days, three weeks off or anything and go

498
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: to Tahati. You know, they just need they look like

499
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: a pretty normal regular schedule, right and they have some

500
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: injuries now too, I mean they don't need you know,

501
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be practicing and having a full practice

502
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: on Saturday. This week, it's gonna be a regular walkthrough.

503
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be having their walkthrough on Sunday. They're

504
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: not gonna be practicing. You know, the last two weekends

505
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: they've practiced, they've had regular practices because and they against Baltimore,

506
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: they weren't even you know, they didn't even know when

507
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: they were gonna play. So even let's just time. I know,

508
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: we don't know all this information. But who do you

509
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: expect very preliminary, no one's holding you to it. Who

510
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: do you think they will be without on Sunday. Well,

511
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin talked about it today. He expects Marquise Pouncy

512
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: and James Conner back off the COVID list. He expects

513
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: Steven Nelson to be back. Um, yeah, it seemed like

514
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: he was questionable for this one. Yeah, Joe Hayden's in

515
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: the concussion protocol, so that's gonna be something that yeah,

516
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: that could go into Saturday. Um, you know, just with

517
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: the way the concussion protocol works, because this was a

518
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: Monday game, that makes us a little more dicey. But

519
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Speaker 1: if he gets through everything, okay, I would expect him

520
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: to potentially practice Friday to get it. That would be

521
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Speaker 1: his day of getting some work in the physical activity

522
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: to see how he responds to it, and then and

523
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: then potentially go through. And he's a veteran, it's not

524
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Speaker 1: like he you know, you couldn't live without practice from too,

525
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 1: um real quick, I mean, and Boswell is the other

526
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: one that you know, Tom, Yeah, that happened, you know,

527
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: it's Saturday. All of a sudden he was held out.

528
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: It's he was held out of Saturday's practice. But it's

529
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: tough to tell if the kickers being going out of

530
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: practice speak quite right. Yeah, they don't do a lot

531
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: of kicking in practice every week, and they could put

532
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: them on the questionable list or the limited list, and

533
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: it's not like you'd be like, well, you didn't run

534
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: eight go routes like right, yeah, I have no idea.

535
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: You know, most of the time they're you know, either

536
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: working on their own off on the side or and

537
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: the reporter's eyes are elsewhere too. You're watching the other stuff,

538
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: the real action. Watching the special team stuff is not fun.

539
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: Um well good, I mean all in all, that's kind

540
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: of promising. Um, yes, splain, will be explain, will be

541
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: the only guy they'll be with that. He's probably out

542
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: at least two weeks. That's a that's a spring knee,

543
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: and that doesn't bother me all that much. Part of

544
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: me is not happy about it. Part of me looks

545
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: as that that's a better opportunity to get Williamson out

546
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: there even more. That's where it was trending anyway. It

547
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: was started to go in that way, and maybe even

548
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: Gilbert a few more snaps. Um. I hope it doesn't

549
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: mean more. Marcus Allen. I think that experiment experiments probably

550
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: a failed one. Yeah, Frankly, I think I mean and

551
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: we I think we talked about this last week. I

552
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: think there's a chance that you know, Ulysses Gilbert gets

553
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: activated or he starts practicing this week. I need to

554
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: watch the second half. I think got through halftime this morning,

555
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: but watching it in real time, I really felt if

556
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: there wasn't another game after, I probably want to watch

557
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: it last night, but I felt like this was the

558
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: first time maybe not the first time, but certainly the

559
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: most obvious time we miss Bush. Yeah, mckissicked on flat

560
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: routes and stuff because frankly, I was mad at TV

561
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: at that point. I'm like, this is all Alex Smith

562
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: can do. You know, you guys are taken away. McLaurin

563
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: so well, okay, the tight ends beating you a little bit.

564
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: But all he wants to do is throw vertical to

565
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: these the mckissic and you know, with Gibson out, he

566
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: just don't give him that. And I thought Vince looked slow,

567
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: and you know, they had a hard time getting the

568
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: Kissic ended up with ten catches on ten targets for

569
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: seventy yards. Yeah, and that was their run game alternative.

570
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: That was there was seven games, seven yards of pop,

571
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: you know, easy throws, patting Smith's stats. But that was

572
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: the one thing that that bothered me defensively, was man

573
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: there there, they sure looked like their throwing events a lot,

574
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, and it was that was something that they

575
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: did in the second half that they you know, okay,

576
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: we're just gonna run the receiver's deep and that he

577
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: was the main target on this There weren't dump off passes.

578
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: That's that was that was his primary. That's what they do.

579
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: That's what they do, no no doubt about it. Um

580
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: to the cornerback conversation. We mentioned this before the Red

581
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: football team's game. They only have one receiver, so sitting

582
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: Nelson if it's questionable, great week to do it, roll

583
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: coverage towards McLaurin. But then you lose Hayden and that's

584
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: when you know, that's when things got a little dicey

585
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: for them. And the Bills are sort of like that,

586
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: like there they're changing this. But when John Brown has

587
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: been out, they've been a much less passing game. But

588
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: this last couple of weeks or so, and certainly last

589
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 1: Beasley has been really good and Davis the rookie has

590
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: been pretty serviceable and Digs is a true number one.

591
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: You know, like last night they moved the ball with ease.

592
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: But so one corner injury I can live with two

593
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah, it makes it a little more, a

594
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: little more troublesome. So and they live in three and

595
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: four receiver sets too. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see what

596
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: happens with those guys this week. We'll keep you updated

597
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: on all the practice stuff. But uh, yeah, I think

598
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: they're they're getting healthier, at least as healthier are going

599
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: to be at this point, and you know, we'll see

600
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: what that what that leads to here. But again, they

601
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,719
Speaker 1: started that game last night with down seven starters eight

602
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: counting Boswell. I don't know why that isn't brought up

603
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: more from the start of the season, Like right, I mean,

604
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: you're losing key guys too. I mean, that's a thirty

605
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: year starting line and key dudes. You know, the guys

606
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: are spending a lot of money on nidraft picks and

607
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: trading up for um. I'm not calling out the front

608
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: office or anything like that, but I thought the lack

609
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: of center depth has been exposed and it should be

610
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: on the off season to do lists in some way,

611
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: shape or form that a wil I mean some of

612
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: a couple of things that we talked about it during

613
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: the draft, A better back up running back. We're a

614
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: guy who was a potential starter and waiting in a

615
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: potential center in the draft. I mean those boasts both

616
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: would have been helpful, but you know, then you'd lose.

617
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't draft Alex Highsmith or maybe you don't

618
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: draft and I wanted to call him out and I

619
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: thought he played pretty darn well for as many I

620
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: mean as a full time guy. I think he passed

621
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: his first test. Yeah, I was on a Steeler video

622
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: today and it was a harder question. I mean, it

623
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: was our last segment was what are the silver linings

624
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: from this game? And I tried. I told him, like,

625
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: I don't really have many. I mean, frankly, I didn't

626
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: come away thinking, well, but this was great. High Smith

627
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: was one of them for me. I came up with,

628
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll keep dropping the ball as as

629
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: often as they have the last two weeks. I guess

630
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: that's a silver lining. Well then, and I thought, what

631
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, there was some questions, well, how's TJ going

632
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: to be without Dupre On the other side, he was

633
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: still pretty bad. Yeah, I came up with high Smith.

634
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: I came up with, I don't think they'll drop the

635
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: ball that much. And oh, by the way, their protection

636
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: against an elite pass rushing line. Rousburgers hit twice the

637
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Speaker 1: entire game, right, hit twice. And I know a lot

638
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: of it's on him getting the ball out, But you

639
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: hold Chase Young and Alan and Payne and Sweat and

640
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: those guys to know sacks. That's when winning football. Yeah,

641
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: I agree, he is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally. You're

642
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Speaker 1: listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. Today

643
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: is Tuesday. They're still game left to be played tonight.

644
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Speaker 1: But Matt did his power rankings, so we'll take a

645
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Speaker 1: look at those. What does this loss due to the

646
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: Steelers in the big picture, gag them a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that when we return right after this

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Speaker 1: your tunes about drive on Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio Power Welcome back. I'm Dale Lilly

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00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: here with Matt Williamson. It was Robert Tony was the

651
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Speaker 1: guy started. Okayeah, listen to our office. My DFS lineup

652
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: this week cash in a good, big way. So uh

653
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: had my Green Bay stack. Davante Adams, Aaron Rodgers, Robert.

654
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: It's a good group, especially when Rodgers is throwing the

655
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: football into those guys in the end zone. That Rogers

656
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: Adams connection up there, I'll say this his four touchdown pass,

657
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: Davante Adams. That's a face mask he had the I

658
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: mean the whole way that. It was a ten look,

659
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: quick out, a quick, little little, you know, bubble screen

660
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: type thing, and Adams grabs the guy's face mask at

661
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: the ten and essentially yanks the defender into the end

662
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: zone with it from the tent. It's a face mask.

663
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a loophole or something doesn't

664
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: get called much. If you have the ball in your hands,

665
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: you're kind of allowed to face mask more than anyone

666
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: else on the field. Isn't cool, No, it's not cool

667
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, you're you're still yanking the guy's head around, right,

668
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: it's just as scary for the guy getting face masks. Yeah,

669
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of tough to tackle guy when he's got

670
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: you by the face mask, pushing your head away. Yeah,

671
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: these guys are pretty strong damage anyway. So I got

672
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: your your rankings, your your power rankings from the Pro

673
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: Football Network, And I don't envy you having to do

674
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: this at this point in the season because because some

675
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: of the bad teams aren't so bad anything. Some of

676
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: the bad teams aren't so bad. And there were a

677
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: lot of quote unquote good teams this week who either

678
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: didn't look good or lost, Like the Jets almost won,

679
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: the Jags almost won against decent teams, you know. So yeah,

680
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: it's not easy. You know, Tennessee did get did lose

681
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: and didn't look you know, even Casey had their hands

682
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: full and their hands full, you know, the Raiders had

683
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: to struggle to beat Jets. I mean teams like Arizona

684
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: and for some reason, Miami fans always give me a

685
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: hard time. Always too low on Miami. That's the one

686
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: one constant. Every week they've got ranking and bea won

687
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: six in a row. I mean, they're they're all right,

688
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: but I don't know that they're good. They're not good.

689
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean, and the Browns are in that conversation too,

690
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: like they keep winning, they have a good record, but

691
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put on the top five. No, they don't.

692
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: They don't belong there. You gotta trust the eye test too. Uh.

693
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: At thirty two you have the Bengals. Oh they the

694
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: Jets are better. The Jets are the Jets are playing

695
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: competitive football or you know, the Bengals are not, and

696
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: they're Finlay's back in the lineup again. I would never

697
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: activate mixing if I were them again, or you know

698
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: it's over. Yeah, uh, the Jets thirty you have Jackson

699
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: film again. They all deserve it. But those two teams

700
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: have been playing a little better. Yeah. Twenty nine is Dallas.

701
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah that could they could move up tonight if they

702
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: look respectable. Yeah, but I mean the other teams that

703
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: division are playing okay, except for Philly. Yeah, So Philly

704
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: was competitive, right, Philly was competitive despite switching quarterbacks, and

705
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: now they're going with Jalen Hurts. Just we got some

706
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: mistake too. I didn't know who to put twenty nine. No,

707
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Dallas could look terrible to night and make

708
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: me look fine. This next team at twenty the team

709
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: he did put it. They belong in Chicago. They're a

710
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: bad football team. They've lost six in a row. They're

711
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: not gonna win another game. He just lost Detroit. Their

712
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: defense is starting to look weirdy too. That's the problem.

713
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: They they're the Steelers from last year, except they made

714
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: plans this season to go in with the season with

715
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: these two quarterbacks. Just the way they drew it up

716
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: from last year. Uh Philadelphia seven Yeah, uh Detroit at

717
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: they looked better, but that was the Bears they beat,

718
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: you know. I mean they're not even out of the

719
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: playoff race. They're not. I mean, that's the thing. The

720
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: NFC playoff race is so much more cloudy than the

721
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: f C, and the a f C has more teams

722
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: kind of in the mix, But the NFC has been

723
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: so bad that some of these teams have gotten back

724
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: into the mix because teams have stumbled there their seventh

725
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: seed and their fourth seed could both be bad team. Yeah,

726
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: uh five, you have the Chargers and they belong there.

727
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm even too nice to them. Yeah, they embarrassed himself.

728
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: Remember what was it two years ago when we were

729
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: sitting here in this very studio and we had a

730
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Speaker 1: coaching rankings here in some bozo I can't remember who

731
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: it was. Had Anthony Lynn ranked ahead of Mike Tomlin. Yeah,

732
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: we pulled out a list and and he was pretty high,

733
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: and we both kind of laughed at that. He's gonna

734
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: get fired after this season. He should. I don't know that.

735
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Speaker 1: This is a guy who was a coordinator offensive coordinator

736
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: for one year for a bad Buffalo team. He was

737
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: running back coach. He was a running backs coach before that.

738
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Speaker 1: I don't know that he ever gets another head coaching

739
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: shot because once he's done, and I don't know that

740
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna make a coordinator. He's not even known as

741
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: like a great xs and Ose type of dude. I mean,

742
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: he's not that quarterback whisperer or anything like that. I

743
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: heard today. I forget which site does it, but E

744
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: p A, you know, expected points that this was the

745
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: worst special teams game and like fifty years or ever

746
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: I had in New England was my DFS defense. That's awesome.

747
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: They were fantastic. They were real cheap because they had

748
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: not been great, and they they were probably number one

749
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: this week. They scored a bunch of points. Yeah, but

750
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: special teams, Oh man, that's awful. Caroline at four, I

751
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: know people think they're better than that, but they have

752
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: lost like seven eight games or something like. They've also

753
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: had to put a bunch of guys in the COVID

754
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: list this week. It might not well going forward the

755
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: coming off vie. They do play Denver this week, but

756
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: Denver's competitive, Denver's competitive Denvers d is good and they

757
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: have weapons. Houston at three, they're a little short on weapons,

758
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: you know, with the with the guys that they lost,

759
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, the injuries and suspensions and you get a

760
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: hundred yards out of Kiki Qt and Chad Hansen, you

761
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's like okay, uh Denver at two, um, yeah,

762
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: I mean there they can hang with teams. Their quarterbacks

763
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: not wonderful. And there what if they had Courtland Sutton

764
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: and von Miller you know, maybe a little okay, I

765
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: mean other teams would say that too. I'm sure you've

766
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: got some feedback on this when you have Arizona down

767
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: at one. If it's that's how they're playing right now,

768
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: that's how they're playing right now. And we'll talk about Buffalo.

769
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: But if it wasn't for the hail Murray, the Bills

770
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: will be on a six game winning streak in Arizona.

771
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: I think it would be like four in a row loss.

772
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: It's it's obvious. It's obvious now that Kyler Murray's hurting,

773
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: they're not. He's not running like he did earlier in

774
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: the year. He's averaging like two two rushing carry or

775
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: two rushing attempts a game over the last couple of weeks. Yeah,

776
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: and he isn't throwing the ball as well. So yeah,

777
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: they're they're not playing well. Their defense is a little

778
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: overrated too. It's just okay, um, at twenty we get

779
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: the Washington football team. Yeah, and that's up quite a bit. Yeah,

780
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: them and the Giants, I think our next You know

781
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: that both those guys pulled off big wins. Yeah. Those

782
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: teams were all in the bottom bottom most most of

783
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: the year. You have to see you have to give

784
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: the Giants a big bum. The Giants I thought were

785
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: much much better, much more impressive win going to Seattle

786
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: and dominating the Seattle offense that that what game wasn't

787
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: as close as the final score shows. They ran the

788
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: ball on him. I really do have Joe Judge credit.

789
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they're he He's a rookie head coach for

790
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: the second year quarterback who I'm sure was going to build. Yeah,

791
00:40:54,239 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: and now they look like a Patriot tough minded style team,

792
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: kind of like Miami did. I mean, they took the

793
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: lead in that game in the third quarter and it

794
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: was kind of over and it was like Seattle couldn't

795
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: get near the end zone right, whereas Washington took the

796
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: lead late in the game and two minutes left. Okay,

797
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: they won the game, but really and their physical Giants

798
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: just won the football game. They did. They did. They're

799
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: hard to play against, and again, I think their coaches

800
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: not a really good job. I'm sure you get some

801
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: pushback from Patriots fans at well you got them at eighteen.

802
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: I think that's really belonged. Yeah, I mean, they beat

803
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: up on some bad teams and they're still short on talent,

804
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: and it was a good way. They're still gonna finish

805
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: eight and eight. That's eighteens, right around where they belong. Yeah,

806
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: uh seventeen. San Francisco at five and seven wasn't their

807
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: best showing. No, no, I mean they could maybe be

808
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: a little lower in New England verst. San Francisco is

809
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: a conversation. Yeah, I hear you on that one. Yeah,

810
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: that's tough that this is where it gets stuff. A

811
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: lot of similar Las Vegas at seven and five is sixteen.

812
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: They looked bad last two weeks, if not for just

813
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: a ridiculous Greg Williams decision. And that's Greg william in

814
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: a nutshell selfish trying to lose. That's him being selfish, egomaniac. Right,

815
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna blitz. They shouldn't have won that game, and

816
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: they got killed by the Falcons a week before, right,

817
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: So who you have at fifteen? At four and eight?

818
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: A right there, four and eight. But they've been they've

819
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: been competitive, you know, it's a coaching change. They've been Okay,

820
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: they've been pretty good. Um, they lost to the New

821
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: Orleans twice in the last three weeks. I think that's

822
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: they're only two losses. I think since Rheem Morris took

823
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: over and they also the girly should have scored but

824
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: didn't know right which they should have don't score. Uh.

825
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: Fourteen is Minnesota. They've pulled themselves back into this thing

826
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: right now. I think they're the six. They are Yeah, yeah,

827
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Speaker 1: I mean they're okay, they're a tough one this week,

828
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: but they're a pretty good team. They're well coached too.

829
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: At thirteen. At eight and four, you have the Dolphins.

830
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: I know I catch eat for that. I'm just not

831
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: a total believer. I mean, their defense is really good

832
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: to do nothing. They don't have much in terms of

833
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: weaponry either. Over. I think they play Kansas City this week.

834
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna get I mean, they'll get some old it's

835
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: another really well coached team, and they'll go in the

836
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: right direction. But I do catch heat that I talked

837
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: to me after you've beaten somebody other than the Bengals

838
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: and the Broncos, and yeah, I'm with you. I don't

839
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: know that they win a seven game series against any

840
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: of these teams. They were losing at halftime to the

841
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: Bengals seven to six. Oh yeah, yeah, the Bengals are awful,

842
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: really bad. At twelve, you have Indianapolis. I love to

843
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: play the Dolphins in the playoffs. Yeah, and they they're

844
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: probably gonna get there. Uh, Dolphins are I'm sorry. The

845
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: Colts at twelve eight and four, they had a decent win,

846
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: but they weren't clearly better than Houston. Yeah, I mean

847
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: they're fine. Uh levin Is Tennessee at eight and four

848
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: had to ding them for that loss this week. Yeah,

849
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: And and the Browns are next to all three of

850
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: those teams have kind of played each other recently, Like

851
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: Tannessee just wiped the floor with the Colts and just

852
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: got That's the tough part about doing rankings, Yeah, because

853
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: it's the same argument between Green Bay, New Orleans and Tampa. Right,

854
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: I get this all the time. Well, how can you

855
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: have this team ahead of this one? We just beat

856
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: them two weeks ago. I'm like, yeah, but it doesn't

857
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: mean they're they're better. Where did you play him? When

858
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: did you play him? With what you know? And who

859
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: was out of power? Rank puzzles a weird one, And

860
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: in terms of I felt like I had to put

861
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: the Browns over the Titans and the Titans over the Colts. Well,

862
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: the Browns have also beaten the Colts, so yeah, I

863
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: mean that makes that makes sense. The Browns are The

864
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: Browns are winning the a f C South right now,

865
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: exactly exactly, and they have a chance to win the

866
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: AFC North. That could happen. I don't I don't see well, yeah,

867
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't see it. But I think they're gonna be

868
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: a playoff team. Where do I have them eight? Something

869
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: like that? There? Ten, ten, Cleveland's attend Baltimore is at nine.

870
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: Maybe Baltimore looks terrible tonight, and I'll move them below,

871
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: you know, the Colts, Titans, Browns. I'm betting that doesn't happen. Probably, Yeah,

872
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: but I think that's the high water mark for Cleveland. Yeah. Uh.

873
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: Eight is Tampa at seven and five, and they have issues.

874
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: They've got issues. Seven in Seattle, he had lost the Giants.

875
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: Yeah right. The Rams at eight and four are six.

876
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm a Rams believer, but they've had some Yeah, and

877
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't love their quarterback either. Buffalo at five at

878
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: nine and three, Yeah, again, I mean, if it's not

879
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: for the Hail Murray play, they're on a big time

880
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: winning streak and I thought they were super impressive last night,

881
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: But are they a great team? No? Green Bay at four,

882
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: nine and three. They have issues too, But I think

883
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: Rogers is playing as well as any quarterback in the league,

884
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: including my homes. I mean, he's one a right now

885
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: where I think he's out playing Wilson. They're pretty darn

886
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: good on offense. Yeah. Three, as the Steelers, you moved

887
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: them down to spot this week at a love they've

888
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: been to most of the time. And I put the

889
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: Saints ahead of him. Uh yeah, the Saints are at

890
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: to Taysom Hill. Still, he was better this week, but

891
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean he was a good quarter He's not

892
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback. He's not an NFL quarterback. I'm sorry, but

893
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: at least Breeze is coming back soon. I mean they're

894
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: they're detention really good. Yeah. Uh. And then one is

895
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: Kansas City and we've talked about them a lot. They

896
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: have some problems, but hey, they're a really good team. Yep.

897
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: And so that's what that's Matt's power rankings. You can

898
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: find those on the prof up on network. Go ahead

899
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,959
Speaker 1: and text at Matt at Williamson NFL. There we got

900
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: Williams NFL. Tell him how wrong he is. Yeah, he

901
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: should be used to it by now, but it's only

902
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: been going on for eighteen years or something. How long

903
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: you've been married? Woh yeah? And is we're gonna take

904
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: a break? He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lilly. When

905
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: we come back, it's time for the Fantasy Football Focus.

906
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: We'll get to that right after. This is the Drive

907
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on your home of

908
00:46:39,680 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm

909
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson's time for the Fantasy

910
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: Football Focus. And it's Tuesday, so we'll take a look

911
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: at the top scorers from the weekend. This being there's

912
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: still a game remaining. This is week thirteen, which means

913
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: for most leagues, this was the last week of the

914
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: regular season. Yeah right, right, so a lot of you

915
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: are out of it. Probably a lot of you are

916
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: gearing enough for a playoff runs. So interesting times. It

917
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: is interesting times. And Josh Allen was the leading scorer

918
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: this week at the quarterback through for three seventy five

919
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: and four touchdowns, six carries for eleven yards, which is

920
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: actually on the way on the low end for him. Um,

921
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: but uh, we're a couple of kneel downs there at

922
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: the end of the game. But we're talking off the air.

923
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean he has more. He's and anyone on the

924
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: Steeler team except for Connor. Right, he's their second leading rusher. Uh.

925
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: That's the thing about that team is we were talking

926
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: about and we'll get more into this this the week

927
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: goes on. But Buffalo does not run the football, no

928
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 1: traditionally anyways, it's they've run the ball five more times

929
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: and the Steelers have this year. And we're talking about

930
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: a little. The Steelers have run the football and to

931
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: your point, they have a running quarterback and the Steelers don't. Yeah, right,

932
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: So a lot of that is josh Allen Baker. Mayfield

933
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: was number two through for three thirty four and four touchdowns,

934
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: four carries for five yards, also had a reception for

935
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: six yards that was a bit silly. I'm not on

936
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: board a cent for fantasy, but he played very, very

937
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: well this week. He had some that was more to

938
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: me about the Titans defense. I also think start your

939
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: guys against the Titans d It's a bad group. Yeah,

940
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: that's the thing. They are a just completely devoid of

941
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: any pass rush clown. He's out for the rest of

942
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: the year. Not that he's a great pass rusher, but

943
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: May's good and Simmons is good, but they don't rush

944
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: the past for well at an't know that. They just

945
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: can't do it. They assess their defense, yeause they don't

946
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: have bad players, but boy they look bad. Derek Carr

947
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: actually finished the third with three eighty one yards and

948
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: three touchdown passes, did rush for a score as well.

949
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm fine with him, but he wasn't anonymous. Yeah, he's

950
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: kind of like Baker to me. I mean he doesn't

951
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: have a real high ceiling. Yeah. They their defense stinks,

952
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: so he's gonna have to throw the football. Um, and

953
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: they didn't have they There's a lot of bad defenses

954
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: right now. They really are, including the Browns. By the way,

955
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: their secondary defense is bad. Um. Ryan tanney Hill speaking

956
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: of that Browns defense through three eight nine and three

957
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: touchdowns with one interception, didn't run though it all that

958
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: game you could call a garbage time, and in a

959
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: way it was because I mean it was by definition,

960
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: I guess, but he was carving up a bad secondary

961
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: with good receivers. Yeah. Uh. Stafford, Matthew Stafford through for

962
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: four oh two. That's the high water market for the week.

963
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: Three touchdowns. Uh did that on pretty two pass attempts

964
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: against the Bears defense, which had been pretty good. It

965
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: had been pretty good. Yeah, um my, my take away

966
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: with that was Bevel takes over his head coach and

967
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: they started pushing the ball down the field again, which

968
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 1: is very Stafford asking much more what he did last year.

969
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm open to using him in the playoffs though. Uh

970
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill through for two thirty two and two touchdowns.

971
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: He ranked high in the scoring because he had fourteen

972
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: carries for eighty three yards. And he will and that's

973
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: what he's going to do Desert. But he's also not

974
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: going to play Atlanta. Like his two best games he's

975
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: had two two of his three stars have come against Atlanta,

976
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: and he started in between that. Against Denver he did nothing. Well,

977
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: they don't have a quarterback either. Yeah, I mean like

978
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 1: he got to play a game without an opponent being

979
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: a threat. Yeah, but he did nothing in that game.

980
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: Um Kirk Cousins three oh five, three touchdown passes. He's

981
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: been pretty good. I believe in him. Yeah, Jefferson's a

982
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: stud and Feeland is really good. You can dump at

983
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: the cooks and he can take to the house to you.

984
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: He pushes the ball down the field. And they moved

985
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers two and three touchdowns, Nick

986
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: nick Mullins, three sixteen and three touchdowns against that Buffalo defense.

987
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: Steelers gonna move the ball against him? Oh, I think

988
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: they will too. I think that these looking a little

989
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: better in Buffalo, but their run defense is amongst the

990
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: worst of the league. And they're just okay, I mean,

991
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: Nick Mullins. Nick Mullins at three sixteen passing yards against

992
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: these guys and three touchdown passes, I mean, I think

993
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: you can Samuel and those Samuels and those guys are

994
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: very fantasy worthy, though I'm not sure I'm starting, Nick Mullins.

995
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about Niners going forward. Are you worried

996
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray? Now, he threw for hundred seventy three

997
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: yards and three touchdown passes, but again the five carries

998
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 1: for fifteen yards. He's not running the ball. He doesn't

999
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: look good throwing it. I think it's health related and

1000
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: one day the shoulder will be fine and he'll be

1001
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: back to looking like I don't think one day. One

1002
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: day will be this season though, that's the problem. Like,

1003
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: if I'm heading into the playoffs and Kyler Murray has

1004
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: been my starter all year long. That's why you're there.

1005
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: But man, you better have a backup option, agreed, because

1006
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: it is is injury related. But teams are keeping him

1007
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: in the pocket and he can't see yeah, I mean

1008
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: part of it. And he's not running like he was

1009
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: not running, and he's not able to see the field

1010
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: like he used to when he's out moving and improv

1011
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I'm real worried about him. But he

1012
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: may that shoulder might heal on Wednesday, and he might

1013
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: look like the same guy. I just don't know. I'm

1014
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: not an injury expert. Um. The running back position, we

1015
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: had a few games, a few hundred yard games this

1016
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: week led by Wayne Gallman. I think he's sixteen for one,

1017
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: thirty five, no catches, doesn't catch the ball, didn't score

1018
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: a touchdown, so it wasn't a huge day. But he

1019
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: gets the goal line carries for them, and they their

1020
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: defense allows them to stick with a running crew. Yeah,

1021
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones comes back. I don't think that changes anything,

1022
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: but I think if anything, it helps him. Um, I

1023
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: don't think Freeman's gonna play again this year. He's maybe

1024
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: in his career. Yeah, not a not a factor at

1025
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: now Melvin Gordon against the Kansas City Chiefs fifteen for

1026
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: one thirty one, also caught a path us for eleven yards.

1027
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: He's a quality player, yeah, I mean, yeah, he's a

1028
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: quality back. I mean, I don't think he's flashy. I

1029
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: think he's you know, probably running back to But that's fine,

1030
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: that's fine. Yeah, you know that. Aaron Jones fifteen for

1031
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: one thirty and a touchdown that was a ridiculous touchdown

1032
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, that was a long one.

1033
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: Had three catches for eighteen yards. Ended up with a

1034
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: good day, but it wasn't. I mean before that touchdown run,

1035
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: you're sitting there going, yeah, Aaron Jones only got fifteen

1036
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: points at this point, I know. And part of it's

1037
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: just because he's never going to be a high volume guy,

1038
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: like his best games could be in the playoffs when

1039
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: they really need to leave them. They haven't needed him,

1040
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: they haven't done it yet, right, they're keeping him fresh

1041
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: to Dalvin Cook thirty two carries again for a hundred

1042
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: twenty yards, caught six passes for fifty nine yards. Yeah,

1043
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: I didn't score a touchdown, but out in that game. Yeah,

1044
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: they didn't have Madison myself but they threw a touchdown

1045
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: passes to C. J. Ham for God's six. They um

1046
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: Coaks obviously every week starter. Of course, here's an interesting one.

1047
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: There's actually a couple of interesting ones from the Jets.

1048
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: Of all teams, Ty Johnson twenty two carries for a

1049
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: hundred and four yards and a touchdown, also caught two

1050
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: passes for thirteen yards, had a couple of good games

1051
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: with the Lions. To Gore's out or at least was injured.

1052
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to find out what they got with

1053
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: this guy. At least see what you got for it

1054
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: was the Raiders, And I understand that in their detail stinks,

1055
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: But but they run the ball, and yeah, I mean

1056
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: Ty Johnson should be in your league. Yeah, and maybe

1057
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: start them. Yeah, I mean that it might be maybe

1058
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: looking at that, but if you're looking at Ty Johnson

1059
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: or I don't know, I mean, if they give carries

1060
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: the Gore going forward, shame on them. That's a wasted,

1061
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: wasted experiment. There are we in on Jonathan Taylor now

1062
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: thirteen for ninety one, three catches for forty four yards

1063
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: in a touchdown. I thought he should have gotten the

1064
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: ball more in that game. I always do Hines is

1065
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: gonna catch passes? Yeah, he's not going away, but they

1066
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: were they he had a rushing touchdown. Yeah, he had

1067
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: like five yard rushing touchdown. Why in the world would

1068
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: you not have Jonathan Taylor doing that? I know, but

1069
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: Hid is a pretty good player. He has some two

1070
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: I get that, But I think Taylor's are running back

1071
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: to though. You gotta get him more than sixteen touch

1072
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: and he had a hundred thirty five yards on sixteen

1073
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: touches total yards Taylor did Yeah. Yeah, I mean some

1074
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: of these rookies are starting to be trustworthy a little

1075
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: too late for my team. I'm carrying all these guys

1076
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: and have been most of the season, and now it's

1077
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, they've all had some stumble with a COVID

1078
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: situation or you know, bye week gets in the way,

1079
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: But starting to finally trust him. In December, Miles Gaston

1080
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: for nine two catches for fifty one yards. They're run

1081
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: blocking is terrible and they're running games bad. But he's

1082
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: the guy. He's the guy, and he catches balls. Yeah.

1083
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara fifteen eighty eight in a touchdown to catches

1084
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: for nine yards and a score. He has not been

1085
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: the same player with Since Tacemill, he's been RB two,

1086
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: since Taysom Hill has been the guy. There's rumors of

1087
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: Breezes coming back a week or two from now. It

1088
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: won't be too soon for you know, if you're an

1089
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara owner and you've but he showed this week

1090
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: that he's not junk either. People are like, should I

1091
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: start Kamara? Yeah, you're gonna start him again. He played

1092
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: against a team that has a quarterback everything. They just

1093
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: rested him against Denver Chubb at eighteen for eighty in

1094
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: a touchdown, one catch for twenty six. Damian Harris sixteen

1095
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: for eighty, one catch for fifteen yards, which he had

1096
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: a catch catch, one of the only ones scoring doesn't

1097
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: catch passes. Yeah, James Robinson eighteen for seventy eight and

1098
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: a touchdown, six catches for thirty yards. The other guys

1099
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: from the Jets, Josh Adams eight for seventy four. Yeah.

1100
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: That was never big on him when he was with

1101
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: the Eagles either. But the same conversation, Gore should never

1102
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: get another carry. They're gonna run the ball. They're not,

1103
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: you know, they're not gonna give it all the Thai Johnson, No, no,

1104
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: he's worth owning. Yeah. David Montgomery seventeen for seventy two

1105
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns, four catches for thirty nine yards. He's

1106
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: creake fun of, but he's not bad. You know. If

1107
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna get twenty, he's gonna get twenty touches every game,

1108
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: and he catches the ball. There's no cohen um. Yeah,

1109
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: and their defense usually keeps them in games. He's better

1110
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: than you think, and he's putting up fantasy numbers every week.

1111
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: Here's what I wanted to talk about as well. Cam

1112
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: Akers seventy two and a touchdown, one catch for twenty

1113
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: two yards. Finally, finally, but the other guys are all

1114
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: still there. It's like the Hines conversation. It's like the Dobbins.

1115
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: It's not like the Seattle backfield. And now all of

1116
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: a sudden, you gotta get Chris Carson and Carlos Hide

1117
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: touches because well just because. And in that game, Acres

1118
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: was really good and he does look like the guy.

1119
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: But Henderson left for a stretch and then he came

1120
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: back and had a role. You know, like he's not

1121
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: going the way. But all those guys like Acres and

1122
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: Dobbins and Taylor and Swift and Taylor Swift. I like,

1123
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: I want all those guys in the second round next year.

1124
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 1: I don't know about this year, but I think they'll

1125
00:57:55,480 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: finish their December is strong. Top path sketcher this week

1126
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: was one Darren Waller. If you had Darren Waller in

1127
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: your lineup this week, you won. You won. End thirteen catches,

1128
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: two yards, two touchdowns. He has seventeen targets. I think

1129
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: the tight end one of the top three or four

1130
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: Fantasy days ever by a tight end. Yeah. Yeah, And

1131
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: he's a he's a big wide receiver. He's a big

1132
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver. That's why I kind of I do kind

1133
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: of like the rule in my one league where we

1134
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: don't designate a tight end. You're just you're just a

1135
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver. You're just a kind of sketcher. Because that's

1136
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: all they are the best guys, that's all they are.

1137
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: If we drafted a fantasy team right now, Kelsey should

1138
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: be the first pick overall if you're playing tight ends. Yeah,

1139
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he might be the fantasy m v P

1140
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: this year with Kiddo out, and but Waller's clearly the

1141
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: second tight end this year. It's almost like having an

1142
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: extra starter yeah. I mean, if you play against the

1143
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: team that's Kelsey, you can't have a zero, or you

1144
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: can't take your five point, you get a really outscorm

1145
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: everywhere else. I wonder if should we take Kelsey and

1146
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: Kittle in the first round next year and be happy

1147
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: about it. Corey Davis eleven catches for two yards in

1148
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: a touchdown. He was another player. It was in my

1149
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: DFS lineup. Just tour it up. Yeah, he does it

1150
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: consistently too. Yeah, he's gonna make some money this offseason. Absolutely,

1151
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: And this is two years in a row. The Tennessee

1152
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: probably should have put the fifth year option on Conklin

1153
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: than Davis. I mean Davis not. I think he's from

1154
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: a tiny school. He's a Mac guy. But they drafted

1155
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: him fifth overall, fifth overall, and maybe it took him

1156
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: a year longer to be a good player, and maybe

1157
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback situation has something to do with that. Wasn't

1158
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: good right, But yeah, he's he can play. He can play. Like.

1159
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: Is he gonna make Juju money next year? I bet

1160
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: I think he makes more than maybe more. I mean

1161
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: he's an outside guy too. Uh. Davonte Adams did Davontae

1162
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: Adams things ten and two touchdowns. Yeah. Yeah, uh, Stefon Diggs.

1163
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: Steels are gonna see him this week. It's ten for

1164
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: ninety two and no touchdowns. But again nine two. Just

1165
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: a real quick note, I mean, which is more Steeler

1166
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: related and fantasy people probably think of him and Theland,

1167
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: you know, because him and Theland were together for so long.

1168
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: You think of him as Yeah, he's a really good player.

1169
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: He's a wide receiver too. He's one of the best

1170
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: wide receivers in football, folks. Yeah, he's really good. He's

1171
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: a great route runner. H Robert Woods ten for eighty five. Yeah,

1172
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: that's what he does. Michael Thomas nine for one oh five.

1173
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: He looked like himself too. Yeah, finally, especially when you've

1174
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: been sitting on Michael Thomas all year long waiting for

1175
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: that game. Though you're probably out of you probably used

1176
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: a sixth pick of the draft on the guy. Yeah. Uh.

1177
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson nine one in a touchdown. He's a stun

1178
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: Mike Gisicky I almost had him in my fantasy in

1179
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: my DFS one and he had nine for eighty eight

1180
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: and a touchdown. Levin targets the Bengals can't cover a

1181
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: tight end. No they can't. But that team is looking

1182
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: for weapons and it's good to see two of feeding them. Yeah.

1183
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley nine for one thirty and a touchdown. You

1184
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: believe it in Cole Beasley at this point. It old

1185
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: because I believe in the offense and I believe in

1186
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: his opportunities. But I forget exactly how it went. But

1187
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: the Niners were on like their third strings lot corner

1188
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: last night. I forget who it was, but it was

1189
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: very favorable for slot receivers. Uh Logan Thomas nine for

1190
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: nine touchdown against the Steelers. That's people are gonna say, Oh,

1191
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: Steelers can't cover the tight end. They've been the number

1192
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: one there's number one team in the league covering tight

1193
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: ends until last night. It's such a shortcut if a

1194
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: tight end has a good game one side of ten games.

1195
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: You hear that from their fans. They were designed yesterday

1196
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: to take Terry McLaurin out of the game and that worked,

1197
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: and in that approach that they should do the exact

1198
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: same game plan if they do it against Diggs. Yeah,

1199
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: I mean again, they played Washington again today, absolute exactly,

1200
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: especially once Gibson was out of the game, right right, right,

1201
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: That was nice. Uh. Travis Kelsey ate for one thirty

1202
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: six and a touchdown, um DeAndre Hopkins eight for fifty

1203
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: two and a touchdown. He worries me a little because

1204
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: of the Murray conversation. That one that is concerning it,

1205
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: and that was on the second half. He didn't have

1206
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: a catch in the first half. He's that's the right

1207
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey treat. They've gone stretches where they just oh, hey,

1208
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: we got this guy over here, let's throw him the

1209
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: ball like Cardinals are low? Why do you need to like?

1210
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury to me is not a good football coach.

1211
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: I just don't think he is. Like you went out,

1212
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: you traded for this guy. He's your number one, Yeah,

1213
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: he's your number one receiver. Why aren't you feeding him

1214
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: the football? He should be getting double digit targets every game.

1215
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: I know you're not talking about you. You're talking about

1216
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: this in a bigger picture than just this week. But

1217
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: I do think Jalen Ramsey's the one corner in the

1218
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: league that I fear the most for fantasy reasons. You know,

1219
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: like if still scheme it up and get him away

1220
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: from him, he stays on right, put him in the slot. Ram,

1221
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: he's not going to fall him and he's your guy.

1222
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald's out. They really do. Hopkins's lines up in

1223
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: the same spot every time. You know that that's that's

1224
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: a mistake. That's a mistake. Uh. Theling eight for seventy

1225
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: five and a touchdown, Cooper Cup eight for seventy three,

1226
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: Deonte Johnson eight for seventy one in a touchdown. A

1227
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: lot some of yards that he lived on the field. Yeah,

1228
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: he left a lot out there. Uh. T Y Hilton

1229
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: eight for one ten and a touchdown. You're buying on

1230
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: t Y. Yeah, I was happy to see that. I

1231
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: think he's been a high quality player that we've kind

1232
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: of left for dead thinking he's like the same as

1233
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: A J. Green and Larry and some of these older dudes.

1234
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: I think he's got a little juice left. Yeah. Dallas

1235
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: Goddard still available in a lot of leagues. Five for

1236
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: sixty six. He should not be available, um for sure. No,

1237
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: she didn't not to be picked up, although they're changing

1238
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and that kind of that kind of muddies up

1239
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: the situation a little bit. I don't think he can throw.

1240
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he's very good. No, I didn't like

1241
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: him coming out of school. I don't think this is

1242
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,959
Speaker 1: going to help their offense. I don't think so at all. Yeah,

1243
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: I just think they don't want to They don't want

1244
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: to put Wentz through this anymore and start over next year.

1245
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: And you gotta fix wins. Yeah, maybe paying him a

1246
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: bunch of money. He can't cut him that well. That's

1247
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: a good offseason conversation. There's a lot of those type

1248
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks out there. One tight end I want to

1249
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: throw out there, though, is uh, what's his face from

1250
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: the rookie from the Bears, cool comet. He's kind of

1251
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: become Okay, now he's become the guy. Yeah. I mean,

1252
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: if you're really hurting a tight end, he might be

1253
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: someone to look at. Yeah, tight end position is uh

1254
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: largely devoided talent, especially if you're playing again against you know,

1255
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: Waller or Kelsey or one of those Kelsey and I'm

1256
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: playing against you, I'm in a big hole. Yeah. I

1257
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: really think should be maybe the first pick overall. Yeah,

1258
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Speaker 1: he is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lali. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take

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Speaker 1: a break. We'll be back right after this Your Tunes

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Speaker 1: about Drive on Home of the Black and Goal Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation radiown Welcome back Lully here with Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 1: met I sent you something over the weekend. It's something

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Speaker 1: that we've talked a lot about, and it's more of

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Speaker 1: an offseason thing, but really it kind of isn't It's

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Speaker 1: very relevant in my opinion. Yeah, some reports now coming

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Speaker 1: out that well, maybe that salary cap won't go down

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Speaker 1: as much as as everybody thought it would. You know,

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Speaker 1: I hope we've been saying that all along, like, it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna go to a hundred seventy five million. It

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Speaker 1: would be catastrophic if it does. I mean the fact

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Speaker 1: that they even said way back when one is the floor, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's as low as it can go for, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: two hundred is normal operating procedure, and that's what these

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Speaker 1: guys and everybody kind of budgeted for down the line.

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Speaker 1: If it drops twenty five million, I'm sure you have

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Speaker 1: a list. Remember, I mean the Eagles and some of

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Speaker 1: these other teams. You're gonna be cutting really good players,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's not good for the teams. It's not

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Speaker 1: good for the players. It's not good for the fans

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Speaker 1: that you know, I think the cut Fletcher Cox, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like I'm not saying Stear's gonna cut Cam Heyward,

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01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: but I mean there could be some of those instances

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Speaker 1: that aren't too far off of that across the league,

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Speaker 1: and it would really throw off the balance of power.

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Speaker 1: Would be bad for the league, would be bad for

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Speaker 1: to pay those guys. And there's a couple of teams

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Speaker 1: that can though, you know, like if the Patriots, but

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're buying guys that are ten million

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01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: dollar players for two million for one year deals and

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Speaker 1: then they all leave after this, like, it would be

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Speaker 1: really bad for the league in my opinion, like the

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Speaker 1: worst thing in the league. It would be a lot

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Speaker 1: worse than putting eight teams in for a postseason or

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Speaker 1: having a Week eight team. You must have just open

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Speaker 1: up open playoffs. Just yeah, thirty two teams, right, that

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01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,439
Speaker 1: would be more devastating. You know, this would be really

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Speaker 1: bad for the league. And these owners are too smart

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Speaker 1: and this is such a money maker. You can't lose

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01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: money as an owner in this league. So what I

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01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: think you've got to lose? Yeah, you bite the bullet

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Speaker 1: a little bit. This year, you're gonna make it up

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01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: on the back. And the reason this isn't going to

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01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: happen is the TV deals are being negotiated. People are

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Speaker 1: wondering why is the NFL so adamant about playing these games.

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Speaker 1: That's why. Because they're currently in negotiations with the TV networks.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna do whatever the TV networks want them to do.

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Speaker 1: And so I expect so as we sit here now,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, if the cap came in and over the

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Speaker 1: camp they're estimating in a hundred and seventy six million,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to be that. I would expect it

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Speaker 1: to be somewhere in the range of h two hundred.

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Speaker 1: I think they keep it kind of a flat rate.

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Speaker 1: That's what happened to last. The only time in the

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Speaker 1: league history since they started the salary cap in that

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Speaker 1: it's gone down was in two thousand eleven, and that

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Speaker 1: was the you know, after the they had some mission, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was that was they had the new contract that

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01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: came up. There was some tough negotiations. It went down

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Speaker 1: a little bit. That's why you know those those Steelers

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Speaker 1: teams that were coming off Super Bowl wins paying all

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01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: the you know that you're paying your stars money, and

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01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: they couldn't keep guys like Keenan Lewis and they had

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01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 1: to cut James Harris and and things like that that

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Speaker 1: nature because the cap didn't go up. The cap didn't

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Speaker 1: go up, and you count on it going up, right,

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01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, like when the Steelers signed Ben and you

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01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: know a lot of these guys, they assumed every year

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01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: that would be in a little bit of an inflation

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Speaker 1: and the cap keep up with it. And that's because

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Speaker 1: typically goes up around ten million dollars a year. You know. Um,

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Speaker 1: as things stand now, if that cap comes in at

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Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy six millions, the Steelers will be

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Speaker 1: nineteen million over the cap. If it comes in as

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Speaker 1: we're as we're saying here at d to two hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars, Well, now, all of a sudden, they're about even,

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Speaker 1: and they can they can make that work. They don't

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Speaker 1: have to blow it up. They're always like that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, never is like, well they got a bazillion

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Speaker 1: dollars under the cab. I mean, they're always right around

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01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: even then, and then all of a sudden, let's say, okay,

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01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: now you give Ben his one or two year extension,

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01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: you redo Haywards contract, you know, kind of say, what

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01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: what things do you foresee happening? You do those two things,

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01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: and you all of a sudden you just probably just

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01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,560
Speaker 1: freed up about twenty million dollars And now now you

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01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 1: get the money to sign your rookies. And oh, by

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Speaker 1: the way, if you want to sign a Juju or

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Speaker 1: Zach Banner or some of these guys, Matt Feiler or

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Speaker 1: you can do these things. Yeah, I don't know. Again,

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Speaker 1: this is much more off season. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Juju Connor Bud will be back, because Bud won't be

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01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: back because you can't afford he's gonna be That's that's

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Speaker 1: when you can't afford. And the other two well, Juju

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Speaker 1: has a fine group around him. Um Connor Connor, I

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01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 1: guess could be back, but I only see it if

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01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: it happens this way and he does and tests the waters.

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Speaker 1: There's not a big market for running backs. You sign

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01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: a one year deal with a friendly move and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna draft somebody. You know, We're gonna gonna we'll give

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Speaker 1: you six million over two years or something like that.

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Speaker 1: You know, but I don't think you make it a priority,

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01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: right now and give him a big deal or ignore

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Speaker 1: running back if you do sign, but it won't be

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Speaker 1: the armageddon that uh for the Steelers and now some

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Speaker 1: other teams. You know, the Saints are ninety three million

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Speaker 1: dollars over that cap. I think Drew Brees retires, but

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Speaker 1: he's not on that cap. He's not even counting on yeah,

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Speaker 1: because he's not signed after this year. So there's there

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Speaker 1: ninety million dollars over the over the cap and Taysom

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Speaker 1: Hill's it. Taysom Hills it right. The Eagles are sixty

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Speaker 1: five million over over that cap, and even you know,

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Speaker 1: slicing twenty million off of that doesn't really help you. Like,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna cut the Shawan Jackson and all Sean Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: and Elite Jackson and they have like three or four

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Speaker 1: others like that, and then they'll still be They'll still

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Speaker 1: be there. Yeah, they're still but they're still gonna have

1378
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: to bite the bullet on some other things. You know.

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Speaker 1: The the Falcons are twenty five million over that there.

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01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: Their Rams are nineteen millions. So the Rams are in

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01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: the same similar situation as the Steelers. I don't know

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01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 1: what they can do in terms of the finangling, you

1383
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: can't get restructured and some of the other people. But right,

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Speaker 1: you know, but the Packers, the Chiefs, this is why

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01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: they can't. You know, this can't go to hundred seventy

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01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: five million. You know, right now you get the Raiders, Vikings, Texans, Chiefs, Packers, Steelers, Rams, Falcons, Eagles,

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Speaker 1: and Saints all over that hundred and seventy five million

1388
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 1: dollars by not just a little bit. The Raiders of

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Speaker 1: the least amount and there at six point two million.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that these seems know that there's some

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01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: guys that are, you know, under contract that they're gonna cuy.

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Speaker 1: And I mean that that's the way it always works.

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01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: But if it's one seventy five, that's changing the rules

1394
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 1: halfway through the game, you know, like no one's prepared

1395
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,560
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, nobody, nobody said there, you know. And

1396
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: then you've got some other teams like the Bears are

1397
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: six hundred fifty five thousand, that's they might as well

1398
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: be und nothing. Right the Bills are at one point

1399
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 1: seven Again, you might as well be under it. They're

1400
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: over it. Because you still can't do anything. You have

1401
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 1: to make some moves. You get teams like Dallas that

1402
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback under contract. I mean, like da

1403
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: Sit and they're looming what gonna pay him? You know?

1404
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that's something is definitely worth keeping

1405
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: an eye on here, and very steel irrelevant though, Yeah.

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01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: I mean when you start looking at the effective cap spaces,

1407
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: what the way over the cap has it? I mean,

1408
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 1: you got you got everybody from the Titans. You know,

1409
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: there's a dozen teams there that that have no cap space,

1410
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 1: and then you can't do any some teams like the Lions,

1411
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: the Panthers and Giants and Seahawks that while they have

1412
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: a little bit of space, it's not gonna be enough

1413
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: to it's more than half the league. I mean, if

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01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen teams are cutting good football players that

1415
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: aren't on horrible contracts, you can just see what the

1416
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 1: how terrible that would be for the league. You know,

1417
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: if there's two or three of them on every team

1418
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: that really deserve their money and you're sorry, we just

1419
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 1: can't pay you right now, and and the the guys

1420
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,600
Speaker 1: that it would really hurt would once again be the

1421
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: middle class, you know in the NFL. Well, we'd like

1422
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: to we'd like to keep you but we've got this

1423
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: rookie here's she's way cheaper, so we're gonna let you

1424
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 1: go and say three million dollars on the cap. And

1425
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 1: that's bad for the game though too. I mean, those

1426
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: are starting guards, you know what I mean, Like, those

1427
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: are quality guys that make those around your third or

1428
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 1: fourth receiver or something like that. You know, here's your

1429
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: second tight end, things that number two linebackers and things

1430
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: like that. They're important. Um yeah, I mean, I don't

1431
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: think you want to league of huge upper class, no

1432
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: middle class and cheap labor. Then you're the ramps. Then

1433
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: you're the and you and you play up and down

1434
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: every week depending on how though you know, well the

1435
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: stars didn't show up today, so nobody else did it.

1436
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: One of my least favorite things about the game is

1437
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: that it is such a war of attrition and not

1438
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: always the best team win. Sometimes it's the healthiest and

1439
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 1: luckiest team because such a physical game. And it would

1440
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 1: be worse that way if you didn't have that middle

1441
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: class to make up for a big loss here and there.

1442
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: On another note, on his radio show, I believe on

1443
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 1: CBS Sports that he does boomer size and through out

1444
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: there that Bill Cower might be then the interested in

1445
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: in in being the next head coach of the Jets.

1446
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm not in that. You've been around coach Kyle a

1447
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: lot more than me, but it sure seems like that's

1448
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 1: a long time to be out of the game. And

1449
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: he's sixty three years old. Though he's going to go

1450
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame this year, he's gonna be

1451
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: turn sixty four and may first of all, Secondly, he's

1452
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 1: going into the end of the Pro Football Hall of

1453
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: Fame later next year. At some point um he may

1454
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: still be comfortable in in TV's he's he's doing well

1455
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,560
Speaker 1: at that. Why would you put yourself through that? You?

1456
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: James changed a lot, is my point. The games changed

1457
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: a lot. The hours have not changed. It's still you know,

1458
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: it's still a sixty or seventy hour work week every

1459
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 1: week during the season, and then oh but and then

1460
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: it's just forty hours or so fifty hours in the

1461
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: off season. It's like, you have why do that? I

1462
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: bet there's some people out there saying, well, why do

1463
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 1: on earth would you go to the Jets? I think

1464
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: the Jets is a really good job. It could be,

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Speaker 1: But just because my thoughts are I think they have

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01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: a GM in place. I think Douglas. I've got to

1467
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: meet him a few times. I think he's got a

1468
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 1: chance to be a quality GM. He's had one draft,

1469
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: it's been a good draft. He didn't hire gays, and

1470
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: and that's not even the biggest thing. It's just they

1471
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: will be one of the teams that have a lot

1472
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: of cap space. So if they're the same, they want

1473
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: to go there, and they might have Trevor Lawrence is there,

1474
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I mean that they don't

1475
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: have a history of winning, but on paper, you could

1476
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 1: build something there. In my opinion, it's I don't think

1477
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: cowards that would even be with somebody I would consider

1478
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: hiring if the if the franchise was located in Oklahoma

1479
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: City somewhere like that, I would be more willing to

1480
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: believe that. You think the Big Apple, it's a it's

1481
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 1: an issue. You're a second citizen in your own stadium. Um,

1482
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: you know, well, the scrutinies insane too. YEA our player

1483
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: is gonna you know, if I'm a player and I'm

1484
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: picking between going to the Jets and I'm in Miami, Yeah,

1485
01:15:56,200 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: good example where Okay, this city is you're going to

1486
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: pay me this amount of money. I gotta live there.

1487
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 1: First of all, of the cost of living is ridiculously higher.

1488
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: The taxes are ridiculously higher. You canna offer me, you know,

1489
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: an extra three million? Yeah, I need more money than that. Okay, Yeah,

1490
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: I get to plan in in in you know, New York.

1491
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: But I could be a star in Miami. Oh yeah, yeah,

1492
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm a good player. I could be a star, you know.

1493
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 1: And so a lot of teams have that issue that

1494
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: their city might not be conducive the recruiting certain types

1495
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: of players, you know, by the way, we have to

1496
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: share the stadium, Like I don't know that. I mean,

1497
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: the winning I want my face on the on the

1498
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, on the on the standards and everything. Yeah,

1499
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, if it's such a I'm

1500
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: just not I mean I like that that stadium, the

1501
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: whole facility is just yeah black. It's not college though.

1502
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: People don't care about that. There's the thirty or the

1503
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: twenty eight year old guard with three kids again, you

1504
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 1: better Okay, then, if I've got three kids, do I

1505
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 1: want to raise them in New York New Jersey? Right it?

1506
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: I could? I could buy my house I can buy

1507
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: a three million dollar house in New Jersey that I

1508
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: could get for one point in five in in Florida,

1509
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 1: or you know. I mean that matters. That kind of

1510
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 1: stuff definitely matters when people don't talk about that enough.

1511
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: Like the dude that grew up in Houston or Miami,

1512
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:19,919
Speaker 1: does he want to play for Green Bay or Buffalo?

1513
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: You know? Or is it it was a city kid

1514
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 1: and doesn't want to go to those towns even when

1515
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: it's warm out let alone when it's freezing out there

1516
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 1: is some of that, you know? Or does does some

1517
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 1: of the people want to go to the heat? I mean,

1518
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: I mean that's what when I'm looking here at the

1519
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 1: teams that are gonna have money. The Jaguars are number one.

1520
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: You don't want to go to the Jaguars. What you mean,

1521
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,640
Speaker 1: I gotta go play three games or four games a

1522
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: year in London? I don't want to do that. That

1523
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: one to be the least attractive, you know. The Jet

1524
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 1: The Jets are number two. Now. The Colts have a

1525
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: bunch of money, but they've got to start paying their

1526
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 1: guys here soon. By all those second round picks that

1527
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: they've had that they haven't had to pay that's coming

1528
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 1: up the Patriots, and they're not huge buyers. They're slow movers,

1529
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, the Patriot her fourth. Do I want to

1530
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: play for Belichick in that situation. No, But does he

1531
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 1: have a true improve them track record of winning? Absolutely?

1532
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: But the draw that was there once there was the draw,

1533
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: Hey Tom Brady is there. I'm gonna go play with

1534
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Well, you don't have a quarterback. Do you

1535
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 1: think that? I was asked today, do you think Cam

1536
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 1: Newton is the Patriots quarterback next year? I do not.

1537
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. That was one of the hardest questions

1538
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 1: in terms of their really hiding him right now. Yes,

1539
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 1: And the thing is, if you do, you can't draft

1540
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: Trask or Jones from Bama, you know, and like he's

1541
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: so different than almost any quarterback out there. You gotta

1542
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: marry yourself that system like they had didn't with Lamar.

1543
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's I mean, could I see

1544
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: them if if if Dallas doesn't make a strong pitch

1545
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: for to keep Dak Prescott, could I see them? Yeah? Absolutely,

1546
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 1: As Washington has fifty million dollars and Washington is another

1547
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 1: team that I had no interest in going to play for.

1548
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 1: The Bengals have forty five million. They're another team. Other

1549
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 1: teams always have money and no one wants they don't

1550
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: spend it yet. Um you know, So that that's that's

1551
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: the situation that you're looking at, like, Okay, you know,

1552
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: I could be a free agent, but at what costs?

1553
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: Who am I gonna go play for? Yeah? I mean

1554
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 1: there's there, there's definitely organizations and everyone knows who they

1555
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 1: are and all the agents know. Chances of me winning,

1556
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: you'll get a paycheck, but it's gonna be miserable. It's

1557
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 1: gonna be miserable in terms of win losses. And Cincinnati's

1558
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: one of them. Cleveland has always been one of them. Washington,

1559
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, and the Jets certainly are too. Yeah, but

1560
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: we'll see. That's all things that are coming down the

1561
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: line here. We get season left to uh tons of

1562
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 1: season left to play here. We'll see how this all

1563
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 1: breaks down. But I thought that was interesting that that.

1564
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: I think that's encouraging though for the cap it absolutely

1565
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: is stuff. Yeah, he is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Ellett.

1566
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 1: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

1567
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break when we come back We're

1568
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 1: gonna hear from Gene Steratur. He was on the DV

1569
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: Running show earlier today. I'm sure, I'm sure what happened

1570
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half against the last night. Uh,

1571
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: it was brought up in this situation. We'll hear what

1572
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: Jean had to say about it. He said he was

1573
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: just trying to get the ball off the field to

1574
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: get the k ball in. That's what he said. It

1575
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: is a slick trick. Well, we'll hear what the Gene

1576
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: Terratory had to say about it. Right after this your

1577
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: tunes about drive on your home of the Black and

1578
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm dale at a

1579
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:56,560
Speaker 1: little uh chickannery at the end of the half. I

1580
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: can't remember anything like that. No, I had never seen

1581
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 1: it before. And well, it kind of like what the

1582
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: Steelers did it the end. I didn't dwell on it

1583
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 1: too much of my game story just because it did happen. Well,

1584
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: it was not the reason why the Steelers lost, this

1585
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: being the field goal gift at the that Washington got

1586
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half. Um. One guy

1587
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: who can explain, or at least try to explain what

1588
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 1: happened is our Buddy Gene stratur He joined the DV

1589
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: Morning show earlier today. Gene, of course the officiating analyst

1590
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: for CBS. This was a Fox game, so this was

1591
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 1: Dean Blandino trying to explain this one. Let's hear Jean's

1592
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 1: explanation of of this. What happened at the end of

1593
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: the first half and the Steelers game on Monday night,

1594
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 1: end of the first half, clock is winding down the Reds.

1595
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the football team does not have enough time

1596
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: to get their field goal unit out and get the

1597
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 1: kick off before time expires. So Alex Smith runs off

1598
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: the field with the ball and the referees call it

1599
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: time out for him and they label it administrative issues,

1600
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: which is the first time I've ever heard of that,

1601
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 1: and I'm wondering, like do they pay them before the

1602
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:16,759
Speaker 1: game or after when that happens. Uh, let me pause

1603
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: and gather myself. You're a rans for a minute. I

1604
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 1: don't want to go down that for having all about

1605
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 1: that portion of it. But let's talk about the reality

1606
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 1: of what really happened. And look, I'm an official, as

1607
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: you all know, for it been my whole life. I

1608
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:37,560
Speaker 1: don't try to defend officiating. Uh, incorrectly. I tried to

1609
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: kind of expose the nuances that their officials are being

1610
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 1: faced with when there's a play that the general public

1611
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: may not understand that I think they got right and

1612
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: would try to do that for the betterment of the game.

1613
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: But in situations that show up like they did last night,

1614
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 1: this is a complete administrative breakdown by the officials. It's

1615
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: it's simple as that. It's it's uh, it's not an

1616
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: administrative stoppage. It's in the ministative breakdown. Um, Look, go

1617
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: back before that time out on third down with twenty

1618
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 1: four seconds left. You know that the Washington football team

1619
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: is out of time out. It's third down, They're gonna

1620
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 1: stay on the field. At that point, you are already

1621
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 1: officiating verbally with your crew with your little odo oh buttons,

1622
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: talking to everybody on the field that now we're about

1623
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 1: to go from third third down, third down play with

1624
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: the team that has no time outs, that the potential

1625
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 1: of having the scenario which happened occurring. That communication should

1626
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 1: have happened with this NFL crew during the time out

1627
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:42,839
Speaker 1: that the Washington football team called before third down started. Okay,

1628
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: now let's get real about what footballs are like. In

1629
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: the NFL. We're not in a Pop Warner game where

1630
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 1: we hired someone off the sideline to run around with

1631
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 1: the balls and then he disappeared to go get in

1632
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: line early at halftime. That doesn't occur either. There are two.

1633
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 1: There are two. There's people on the sideline in the NFL.

1634
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 1: One has the regular footballs and another guy with a

1635
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: big vest on with the giant letter K is standing

1636
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: next to that official with all the kicking balls all right. Now,

1637
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: whether the kball guy looked at the guy with the

1638
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: regular balls and said, hey, I'm I'm gonna get in

1639
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: line early for a primanity that after hold these balls,

1640
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm leaving. Uh, it didn't happen. Okay, So let's get

1641
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 1: real about where we are and what this is. It's

1642
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 1: the NFL, so that that crew should have been talking

1643
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 1: about that scenario during the time out. Now when that

1644
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 1: play actually happens. Look, I know Alex Smith leaves the

1645
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: field with the football. I get it, that's another issue

1646
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: which he should not have done. But eight percent of

1647
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 1: every football play that ends in the NFL, we don't

1648
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 1: use the same ball. Unless it's a run up the

1649
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: middle between the hashes, there's a ball exchange almost on

1650
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 1: every play in the NFL. That's a normal process, like

1651
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: a hundred times a game. Okay, So, now you have

1652
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: a running play or sack that occurs with eighteen sixteen

1653
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: seconds remaining on a running clock. Immediately the referee or

1654
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 1: one of these officials for sure would be hitting that

1655
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 1: little button again, screaming, caball, get a caball. I had

1656
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: it happened in Super Bowl fifty two with the miracle player,

1657
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 1: the Philly Philly special thing, because we had a caball

1658
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 1: coming out and went back to a regular ball. That's

1659
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 1: a normal process for officials. Okay, So the minute Alex

1660
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 1: Smith gets sacked, it's caball, caball, and the official at

1661
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 1: the top of the screen that was at the line

1662
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: of scrimmage with those two gentlemen behind him, with with

1663
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 1: enough footballs to play a lot of games, should have

1664
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 1: turned immediately at fifteen seconds for the caball guy. And

1665
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 1: if he left early, the next guy that's standing next

1666
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: to him with six other footballs, then you grab any

1667
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 1: ball and you play with the regular football. Um. The

1668
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: really the problem that comes again right then is the

1669
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 1: inadvertent signaling of one officials to stop the clock with

1670
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: eight seconds, which can never happen, and that can't happen.

1671
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: You don't stop a clock like that because someone's not

1672
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: gotten the football yet. So now you have a frozen

1673
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 1: clock and we know what transpired after that, and the referee,

1674
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 1: John Hussey reacts, clicks his microphone on and goes into

1675
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: an explanation which is in the book. Administrative stoppages, guys,

1676
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 1: are when the chain crew gets blown up and they

1677
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 1: can't run down the field because the chains bent in half.

1678
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: We had to stop the game for an administrative situation

1679
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: or something to that nature. But when you stop this clock,

1680
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: regardless of who benefits, Now, this play from an officiating

1681
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: lens is it's a blow up. It's it's it's what

1682
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 1: it became. Um, I've watched the play like anybody has,

1683
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 1: and the Washington football team is close to the line

1684
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: of scrimmage with about eight seconds when the clock freezes.

1685
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 1: They're kind of out there. But you've now stopped the clock.

1686
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 1: Let's go and say it was a normal progression. And

1687
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: the football gets in there at seven seconds, which it

1688
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 1: should have, and the umpire puts it down and back

1689
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: pedals out the field goal team although they're there and

1690
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: everyone's ready to go. They still have to get set

1691
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: and do this in a hurried fashion within three or

1692
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: four seconds to kick a field goal. The fact that

1693
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: they stopped the clock now allows those teams to take

1694
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: a breath, get set in a normal snap, and have

1695
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: a what feels like a regular field goal play as

1696
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 1: opposed to a hurried one. I think they still may

1697
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 1: get the field goal off, but once you stop this clock,

1698
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 1: now you've done something that that puts an unfair advantage

1699
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: to someone, and in this case, it's Washington. So the

1700
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 1: criticism that should follow is justified, and it's not an

1701
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 1: acceptable mistake at this level of football. That's that's plain

1702
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: and simple. Okay, So all kidding aside you, I mean,

1703
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 1: I I think the Steelers lost for a bunch of

1704
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 1: other reasons besides that, But that was just so comical

1705
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 1: the way that that went down yesterday. It surprised me,

1706
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 1: uh how they kind of steered away from the skin

1707
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 1: on this one. It seemed to make matters worse. So

1708
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: what you're saying is, Alex Smith, that's not a delay

1709
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 1: of game when he takes the ball off, not really, Randy,

1710
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 1: because it's it's it's started down going to fourth. We're

1711
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 1: not supposed to ever kick with something other than a caball.

1712
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 1: So not really, No, it's not a delay of game

1713
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: by by by rule that in that sense, because he's

1714
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 1: not doing something intentionally to benefit his team. He was

1715
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 1: actually putting them in a more difficult position the ball

1716
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,560
Speaker 1: off of the field. Okay, so you know there's not

1717
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: a rationale there. And look, you know what we saw,

1718
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,759
Speaker 1: how bad this looked, and and and and how JV

1719
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: it felt right because administratively, there are things happening all

1720
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: day in three hours from the officiating lens. It's a

1721
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 1: huge part of officiating, and that's doing all these little

1722
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: nuances that no one really knows who're occurring, that are

1723
01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 1: occurring all the time on the field. And at this level,

1724
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 1: that's what officiating is. It's a huge portion of this,

1725
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 1: and that's make this think low the way it should

1726
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 1: without anyone knowing all the little intricacies that you're doing

1727
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: all day. And this is just one that happens to

1728
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:16,759
Speaker 1: every crew at some time during the season. These plays happen.

1729
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 1: This isn't you know this one in a million or

1730
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: one off here. This happens, and the preparation of that

1731
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: is something at this level that's supposed to go without

1732
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: a hitch. It just is never supposed to happen. It's

1733
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 1: it's not acceptable, and that's it for me. That's a

1734
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 1: hard word to say. I don't like saying that, but

1735
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 1: this is not acceptable. It's just plain and simple as that. Jeane, Uh,

1736
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 1: can you explain for me the lineman downfield rule because

1737
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 1: the penalty on filling the wave in the second quarter

1738
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 1: the Steelers ended up getting a touch down on that. Anyway,

1739
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: I think it looked like he was down the field

1740
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 1: because they let him line up three yards in the

1741
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 1: backfield to start with. Doesn't he doesn't he at a

1742
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: yard on a snap from the six yard line. Doesn't

1743
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 1: he get to go to the five? Yes, he does,

1744
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 1: he gets to go to the five. I think he stumbled, Mike.

1745
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 1: I saw I rewound that once or twice, just because

1746
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 1: the wave a little way that acted. Not that most

1747
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 1: guys that get called out for a file think they're

1748
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 1: innocent or trying to plead it initially for a second

1749
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 1: there and then uh, most times they might be a

1750
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: little bit incorrect in their reaction. Um By rule on

1751
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 1: a pass play, if an interior or ineligible player is

1752
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 1: engaged with their opponent right at the snap and blocks him.

1753
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 1: And let's say he had someone right over top of him,

1754
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: a defensive end, and he drives him two yards down

1755
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 1: the field, and they're engaged right from the snap, and

1756
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 1: he literally drives at the fender two yards down the field,

1757
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 1: at which point they become disengaged, and it's a past play.

1758
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 1: If that lineman stands stationary and doesn't move, then until

1759
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 1: the ball is thrown, he is still not down the

1760
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,560
Speaker 1: field illegally, okay. But if he goes down on his

1761
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 1: own without any engagement, if he gets beyond the yard

1762
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 1: now before the ball is thrown. Once that football is

1763
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 1: thrown in the NFL behind a line of scrimmage or

1764
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 1: beyond it, it's ineligible downfield. I thought he stumbled, or

1765
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 1: if if I recall that correctly, and that I thought

1766
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,640
Speaker 1: he stumbled at the end, which kind of took him

1767
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:21,720
Speaker 1: a little further. It's a it's a hair splitter a

1768
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 1: little bit from my advantage point um, But I think

1769
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 1: technically it's a foul. For that reason is that he

1770
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 1: wasn't an engagement and he was more than a yard down.

1771
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 1: We always had a little more freedom on that we

1772
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 1: would call him healthy yards, right, a healthy one or

1773
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 1: a healthy two yard something like that. But I think

1774
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: by rule technically he was ineligibly downfield, but he can't

1775
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 1: stumble after the ball is thrown, Like, wouldn't he theoretically

1776
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 1: be allowed to chase the hands he's allowed? Correct? If

1777
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 1: it's not the hand. Ineligible downfield is when it leaves

1778
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback's hand. Offensive pass interference or blocking downfield on

1779
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 1: a forward path that you were not allowed to do

1780
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 1: until the ball touches a receiver okay, or an eligible

1781
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 1: player downfield that the ball was thrown to. So there's

1782
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 1: a difference in that window of time. In eligible downfield,

1783
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 1: when it leaves the QB's hand, you're free to take

1784
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 1: off o P. I can't engage until eligible player touches

1785
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 1: the forward past. So there's a little difference in that

1786
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 1: in the way those are applied. Uh, quick quickly. Last thing,

1787
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 1: the Ray Ray McCloud fumble. I'm sorry, Ray Ray McDonald

1788
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 1: fumble that happened yesterday. Uh it seemed to be because

1789
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: a player was blocked into him. How does that work?

1790
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:39,839
Speaker 1: How do you distinguish between interference and whether somebody's actually

1791
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 1: blocked in because to me it looked like he had

1792
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 1: a couple of steps to make up the difference. This

1793
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 1: is a punt return. I didn't see the play, but

1794
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 1: just if you frame it for me, this is a

1795
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: receiver waiting to receive a punt, and now there's contact

1796
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 1: with that receiver before the ball gets there. In the

1797
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 1: officials discretion, those gunners that are flying down to get

1798
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 1: close to time this so as soon as touches him

1799
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 1: they blow him up without hitting him in the head

1800
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 1: or neck area, because this year he's held defenseless by

1801
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 1: his position, right, but he's being blocked where there was

1802
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:12,600
Speaker 1: some engagement with a receiving team player a couple of

1803
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 1: yards ahead of that receiver before the ball gets there.

1804
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 1: We really tend to say that if there's some engagement,

1805
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 1: unless that receiving team player is standing still in a

1806
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 1: passive posture and not trying to block at all, if

1807
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 1: there's any contact there, they they will push that to

1808
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 1: say that he was being blocked. Now in the judgment

1809
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 1: of the official, if what you're saying, Rand is that

1810
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 1: there was like two or three yards between when they

1811
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 1: became disengaged, now another level of judgment comes in, and

1812
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: that is did the player, their kicking team player that's

1813
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 1: coming after him have enough time to gather himself and

1814
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 1: then to create his own movement toward that receiver, So

1815
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 1: now he's responsible for it. That's the judgment that has

1816
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 1: to take placed in those fractions of a second. It's

1817
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 1: the same kind of application if you say it's not

1818
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 1: roughing the pass, or because a defensive player was coming

1819
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 1: off a block before he hit the quarterback at her

1820
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 1: below the knee, and then you have to make that

1821
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 1: assessment on the judgment of whether that defensive player is

1822
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 1: still just moving forward based on the momentum the other

1823
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 1: player gave to him, or if he had a chance

1824
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:24,799
Speaker 1: to gather from that and now create a different movement

1825
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 1: that now he's responsible for. So those are the judgments

1826
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 1: that take place in those those areas, and as as

1827
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 1: I said, most times, if they're engaged a little you

1828
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 1: lean toward the fact that he hasn't been able to

1829
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:40,640
Speaker 1: gather himself from that action before he hit him. All right,

1830
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 1: good deal. Geane Sterritory brought to you by Bette Rivers

1831
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 1: this morning. Here's helping the referee crew this weekend has

1832
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:51,679
Speaker 1: less administrative issues as the Steelers battle the bills. You're here.

1833
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm for that one boy. Thank you. Hey, thanks as always,

1834
01:34:55,840 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, appreciate you. That was CBS sports officiating analysts

1835
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 1: Gene Sterotor earlier today on the DV Morning Show. Yeah.

1836
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 1: Always good stuff from Gene. And he's absolutely right. I mean,

1837
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 1: he knows the ruless got short into the stick at

1838
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 1: the end of the first half and I don't know

1839
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 1: what they win the game where he goes over time.

1840
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 1: I know they lost by three and all that, but

1841
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 1: at the time I kind of brushed it off, like

1842
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 1: they win anyways, they're they're kicking their butts, but at

1843
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 1: least it shouldn't happen. They should not happen, and that's

1844
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 1: a situation where they should. Buzz in from New York

1845
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 1: is a hey, uh, the run the rest of the

1846
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: clock off. The half's over. Yeah, the half's over. He's

1847
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 1: because the officials spun his arm off. I was there.

1848
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 1: I was here watching because the clock will stop. I

1849
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 1: look up and I'm like, oh, this clock stopped, and

1850
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, they used to stop that. If you had

1851
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 1: a sack, they used to stop it. But they got

1852
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 1: rid of that rule and the clock kept running, and

1853
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm like the clock shouldn't be stopped right now. And

1854
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: then I saw the official, uh you know, rotate his

1855
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 1: arm and the guy I'm sitting right behind the car

1856
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 1: in front of the clock operator and he started the

1857
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 1: clock again, and then they stopped it again. So no,

1858
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 1: put eight seconds back up, and like what, it didn't

1859
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 1: make any sense. But and it wasn't explained very well

1860
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 1: at the time. It was not no. I mean well

1861
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 1: they couldn't explain it because it wasn't the correct ruling

1862
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 1: on it. But yeah, anyways, we're gonna that's gonna do

1863
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 1: it for our show today. We'll be back again tomorrow.

1864
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 1: Have a better idea of who's practicing who isn't see

1865
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 1: what the Ravens do. Yeah, we'll see if they get

1866
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:20,560
Speaker 1: themselves back into this. But former partner Matt Williamson for

1867
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 1: Jacob here on site keeping us on the air. I'm

1868
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 1: Dale Lally. We thank you for listening to this edition

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01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 1: of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.