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Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter. I've spent thousands of days

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Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard

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Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer

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Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal, success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.

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Speaker 1: This is Cutting the Distance. Welcome back everybody. It's that

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Speaker 1: time in the podcast where I'm introducing your questions, those

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Speaker 1: burning questions that you've had. I might be talking about

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Speaker 1: something you're like, wait, but what about this? How does

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Speaker 1: this relate to where I hunt? All those great questions

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Speaker 1: will soon be answered as we dip into the mail sack.

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Speaker 1: I know the last couple of podcasts, if you missed them, um,

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Speaker 1: you should go back and listen, because we covered how

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Speaker 1: to get a tag. We covered a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: and then did kind of a state I state breakdown.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that was very helpful for a

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Speaker 1: lot of people. I know here at the Cutting the

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Speaker 1: Distance mail room, I just made that up. We don't

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Speaker 1: have a mail room, but I got a lot of

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Speaker 1: questions regarding that topic. Um, and that's great. That's awesome

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Speaker 1: because a lot of people are interested. They're starting to

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Speaker 1: plan things out and they want a little more knowledge,

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Speaker 1: so we'll cover a lot of that today. I also

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Speaker 1: got a lot of questions on archery stuff from the

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Speaker 1: archery series we did prior to that, and then, as always,

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Speaker 1: a lot of general hunt knowledge stuff. So let's dive

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Speaker 1: start firing through a lot of these questions. The first

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Speaker 1: question comes from Nelson. He says, hey, mmy, thank you

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Speaker 1: for the wealth of information you provide each week. Ben

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Speaker 1: a fan of the show since episode one. As hunters,

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Speaker 1: we put hours and miles when scouting and hunting year round. Recently,

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Speaker 1: I had a spot on public land completely advertised by

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Speaker 1: an outdoors media page. Not only did they throw the

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Speaker 1: name and location of the area, uh like the trailhead,

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Speaker 1: but went as far as putting the GPS coordinates. I

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Speaker 1: understand it's public land, but surely this has to be

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Speaker 1: too much info to just give out. No, I'd love

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Speaker 1: to hear your opinion on this. I don't believe I've

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Speaker 1: heard the topic of spot burning discussed on this level

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Speaker 1: of detail in your podcast. Thanks again, keep up the

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Speaker 1: great work. That is a great question, Nelson. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a good one to start with two, especially after

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Speaker 1: we did um a little tag draw episode, and I

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Speaker 1: think that, UM, I'm with you. I'm not a big

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Speaker 1: fan of not only necessarily giving people's spots, but large

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Speaker 1: I mean, so much information is out there. UM. I

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Speaker 1: think some information needs but I think there's there's too

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Speaker 1: much information given out. Nothing worse than having your spot burned.

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Speaker 1: I've had my spot burned by magazines many times. UM.

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Speaker 1: And I've kind of always been the type that as

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Speaker 1: of effort to figure out where I want to hunt,

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Speaker 1: or not even necessarily for me, but just for other

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Speaker 1: people that might hunt the areas that I like to hunt.

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Speaker 1: I'd hate to blow it up. I know many years back,

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Speaker 1: one spot in particular I had. It was just a

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think some of the bestest mule deer

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Speaker 1: was like, Wow, this spot is really good. There's lots

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Speaker 1: of there's lots of bucks. Why is this spot not

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Speaker 1: in the certain At the time of the Hunting Fool

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Speaker 1: course the next year that area was the number one

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Speaker 1: pick um in hunting fool. And since that point we

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Speaker 1: used to be able to draw that tag every year,

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Speaker 1: and since that point it's become a point zero percent

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Speaker 1: those things happen all the time. I know. Actually, when

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Speaker 1: there's there's states that I hunt, um or places that

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Speaker 1: bad they did that. Um, it's very unfortunate. I don't

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Speaker 1: wouldn't want to draw attention to it anyways. Also, when

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Speaker 1: because I don't want somebody else to get their spot

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Speaker 1: not cool man, not cool. That that was a long

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Speaker 1: The question says, Hey, I'm looking at getting a South

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Speaker 1: October one, what would be your tactics for spot and

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Speaker 1: I would say that that is um a good question,

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Speaker 1: of year, um and it's because dear are hard to find.

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Speaker 1: So what I like to do is I like to

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Speaker 1: like to focus on those safety zones, those sanctuaries. UM.

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Speaker 1: Like I say, in the mountains oftentimes where you see

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Speaker 1: So I would focus first on you know, draws, thicker

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Speaker 1: Right now. Those bucks will be by themselves in areas

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Speaker 1: I think it's because they have of like, good access

430
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Speaker 1: to water cover, there's good habitat, and it's also generally

431
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 1: harder to get to for hunters. You know, you've got

432
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 1: to do some uphill climbing. There might not be roads

433
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,120
Speaker 1: and other things. So if I was just to give

434
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 1: a blanket statement of what elevation, I generally cut the

435
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: mountain into thirds and that like if I so, yeah,

436
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,119
Speaker 1: like looking at a mountain making into thirds, that third

437
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 1: below the top is generally where I find most big

438
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 1: game animals. And that's kind of like where I start.

439
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,959
Speaker 1: But it also depends on the time of year. Earlier

440
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: in the year, I start up higher, later in the

441
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: year I start lower. Um, if the snows are really high,

442
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: you know they're getting pushed out of that higher country.

443
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna be a lot lower. Now. Big bulls will

444
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: stay the longest. So if you want a tough hunt,

445
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 1: but a good option to hunt big bulls, you will

446
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: go find them in chest deep snow for an elk um,

447
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 1: sometimes still up high until they're just forced out of

448
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: that stuff. They just plow through and finally come down.

449
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: Last last winter, on a late season deer hunt, I

450
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: found a lot of big deer just up in snow

451
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: that you're like, how are they even surviving there? And

452
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: they're just there by themselves, hanging out and then plowing

453
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: down and going down with the larger groups kind of

454
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: like the last ones in. But I would say generally early,

455
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: look high, late, look lower, and you know, like if

456
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 1: you're late season hunt, you're probably looking at the bottom

457
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: third of the mountain. That's where the best winter ranges.

458
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: And then just like anything, find where that good habitat,

459
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: that prime habitat is going to be in focus in

460
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Speaker 1: on that. Hey, I'm listening to your latest podcasts and

461
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 1: something that I've tried to search for. He recently sent

462
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Speaker 1: Montana Fishing Game for information on is where can a

463
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: Canadian resident put in the draw for sheep and is

464
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 1: there any states that this is a thing. Being a

465
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,959
Speaker 1: Saskatchewan resident, my chances of hunting sheep are based on

466
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: me winning the lottery, which is slim to none. Nathan. Well,

467
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: I've got good news and bad news, Nathan. So the

468
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 1: good news is as a Canadian resident, we are very

469
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 1: nice to Canadians when Canadians are not very nice to us.

470
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: I know Canadians like to think that they're very nice,

471
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,479
Speaker 1: but they don't allow um non resident non alien hunters. Uh.

472
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: If you're from the US, hunting in Canada alone without

473
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: a guide UM generally is not Uh, you aren't able

474
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: to do that. Fortunately for you guys, we let Canadian.

475
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: Almost every state allows Canadians to hunt on their own

476
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 1: without the use of a guide as far as I know.

477
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: Outside of Alaska, the fee is a little bit higher,

478
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 1: but yes, you can apply for sheep in pretty much

479
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: every state. You just do the same thing as a

480
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: nonresident would do that lives in the states. UM. Now,

481
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, getting a firearm and all that stuff. That's

482
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: all I know, none of that because I've never um

483
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Speaker 1: traveled from Canada to the US and being uh non

484
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 1: resident aliens, so UM, I don't know the rules and

485
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: specifics on that. I know with a bow you wouldn't

486
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: have any problems, but I'm not sure about a fire

487
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: in the US. I don't think it's too hard, just

488
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: kind of fill out some forms. From what I've had

489
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: other people do from other parts of the world coming

490
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: into the U s it's fairly easy for them to

491
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: bring in a firearm, just like any other travel You

492
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: just gotta fill out some forms and and find those

493
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 1: kind of things. But the application process to draw sheep tag, unfortunately,

494
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: you're in the same boat as the rest of us,

495
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: which is it's going to be like winning the lottery,

496
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: maybe even more so here than up there. Unfortunately, you know,

497
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 1: and that's you're in the same pool as me applying

498
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: in Montana as a nonresident, as if you live in

499
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: Canada or anywhere. Um. Same with like if you apply

500
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: for sheep and Nevada, you would be just considered a

501
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: nonresident and you can apply and draw a tag and whatever.

502
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: But the odds are very slim, so you just got

503
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: to do the same thing the rest of us do

504
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: play that point game and hope that you get lucky. Now,

505
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: I will say other options for drawing sheep tags would

506
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 1: be raffle type tags. There's those available. It's just it

507
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: is at some point kind of feels like a lottery,

508
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: but you know if you don't if you don't enter,

509
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: you can't win. Um, I've drawn multiple sheep tags. It

510
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: seems like long odds, and I think, well, the chances

511
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: of me drawing sheep tag in my lifetime are very slim.

512
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: But hey, I mean multiple states and multiple draws, they've

513
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: got steep odds. But I keep applying and keep trying

514
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: to increase the odds in my favor over time, and

515
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: sooner or later I'm gonna hit the jackpot and get

516
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: the tag that I want. So it might be something

517
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: to think about just applying, like the rest of us,

518
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: in more places where it's not just where you live.

519
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: You know, you can kind of spread that out over

520
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: other states in the US and hopefully give you a

521
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: good opportunity to one day hunt sheep. That's the dream.

522
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: The next question says, I just got into archery, and

523
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: I really enjoy your podcasts and your archery one on

524
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: one to two oh two. I really appreciate all your

525
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: help and knowledge. So anyway, I've seemed to be really

526
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: shaky when shooting a gun or bow. I'm not great

527
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: at off hands shooting, and i'd really try hard to

528
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: not shoot an animal off hand unless I'm bird hunting.

529
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: So anyways, when I'm shooting my bow, I draw back,

530
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: level the bow and slowly dropped to the target and

531
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: release when I get on target. Is there anything I

532
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: can do to help this? I'm practicing every day rain

533
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: or shineun til archery deer starts here in Washington State.

534
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: Thanks for everything, Mike. That's a good question, Mike. I mean,

535
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: I guess the question we first have say like why

536
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: are you shaky? Um? And I mean I think that, uh,

537
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: you know, some people naturally, it might be nerves, it

538
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: might be another reason. But one thing you got to

539
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: think about is you can't focus on the movement. Um.

540
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: I think too many people get wrapped up on that,

541
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: like I'm so unsteady. It's moving, it's moving, it's moving,

542
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: and then that kind of creates a form of target

543
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: panic in a lot of ways. Um. One thing that

544
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,719
Speaker 1: I think you should try to do, based on, you know,

545
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: just this brief description of the shot, I think what

546
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: you should try to do is just focus on putting

547
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: that pin and holding that pin on the bulls eye

548
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: for a certain amount of time. I mean maybe it's

549
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: five seconds, maybe it's ten seconds. Hold back, stare down

550
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: that pin and just stare down that target and just

551
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: like look at it, put the thing on it and

552
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: shoot and don't fake focus so much on the wobble,

553
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: focus on the target. You will be surprised how many

554
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: of those arrows go in the bull's eye. You know,

555
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: your brain is a supercomputer, and what you're doing is

556
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: you're focusing on the input that doesn't really necessarily make

557
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: any sense to performing that operation when you're at full draw,

558
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: focusing on that target. Let your pin hover over that

559
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: target and just let it be on that target for

560
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: as long as you can. Let your shot go off,

561
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: and you're probably gonna find that that arrow is very

562
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: close to where you want it. Um, I would just

563
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: say focus less on the shaking and more on the target.

564
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: Everybody moves. Shooting with movement is great, but I think

565
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: based on the way you're describing your shooting, your drawing

566
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: back your anchor and you're pulling it down and then

567
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: you're letting it go off, and what that doing is

568
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: you're anticipating and trying to shoot faster than holding it

569
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: on the target because you're afraid that the shake is

570
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: going to affect the shot where what's actually gonna happen

571
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: is you're going to develop a bad habit and you're

572
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: probably gonna um, you know, that anticipatory shot is going

573
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: to in the long run probably play against you in

574
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 1: many ways. So what I would do is not worry

575
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: about being shaky, but just like focus in on the target.

576
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: Practice building up that strength to hold back on target,

577
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: and practice holding on target, and not worry about the movement,

578
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: but just focus in and let that shot go off,

579
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: and you're gonna find that you're probably extremely accurate. It's

580
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: kind of like if you hunt birds, you know, shooting

581
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: birds flying. I know, for me, when I think about

582
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: shooting a bird and I'm aiming and I'm trying to

583
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: do all this stuff, I generally missed the target. But

584
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: when I throw the gun up and shoot and let

585
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: my brain just do the rest of it, um, I'm

586
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: not thinking about the lead and calcul leading all the

587
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: things that essentially slow me down. I'm just letting that

588
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: shot process go through. The gun go off, and the

589
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: bird always falls. And so to make it more natural,

590
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: I would just say kind of focus on that and

591
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: not the shake, and you'll be solid. And that's great info.

592
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: For pretty much anybody, any any facet of hunting being

593
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: a better shot. Thanks, question says good morning, Roomy. First,

594
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate all info and insight you take from being

595
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: out on all your hunts. It helps a lot. As

596
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: a US Coast Guard member, I'm going to be stationed

597
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: and anchorage starting in July, and I'm only going to

598
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: have the next three years to make any dream hunt happen.

599
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: I should be able to fly into remote, inaccessible locations.

600
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: Is there anything you would recommend as a research for

601
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: future hunts. Cariboan sheep are high on the list, but

602
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: definitely not too educated on what game are the best

603
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: for eating and open to hear what you prefer. Any

604
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: info you can provide will be greatly appreciated. I'll keep

605
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: using you as a character in hunter Call of the

606
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: Wild while hunting in Yukon. That's from Brandon. That's a

607
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: great question, Brandon. You know, I think anything like that.

608
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: Alaska is an awesome place for hunting. There's a lot

609
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: of opportunity. Um, there's a lot of different species to hunt,

610
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: you know. I would say between caribou and sheep, both

611
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: are are good tasting. Cariboo a lot better early once

612
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: they get kind of on the rut. I don't necessarily

613
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: like the meat as much. I think cariboos. Cariboo kind

614
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: of has its own taste. It's like, I think of

615
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: it as like the lamb of the North. It's got

616
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: like this lamb esque quality to it. UM where sheep

617
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: is actually more I think actually between the two, probably

618
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: sheep is better tasting. Sheep hunting, obviously, is is a

619
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: lot about a lot about the the the journey. It's

620
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: very difficult. You have to get a legal ram, which

621
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: can be you know, difficult to find. It's gotta be

622
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: full curl. In Alaska almost almost all areas. UM. I

623
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: would say if you're if you're just looking for a

624
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: really good tasting um animal black tails are good in

625
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: the southeast. UM. You can hunt them from Prince of

626
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: Wales on the southeast coast all the way up through Kodiak,

627
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: Sitka Um all over. So that that's a really good hunt.

628
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: That's a that's a fun hunt. If you just kind

629
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: of like want to get your feet wet a little

630
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: bit without having a lot of that cost involved with

631
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: flying in and other things, that's something to look into. UM.

632
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: You know, outside of that moose hunting is also awesome.

633
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: Moose meat is great. It's a lot to carry, but

634
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: finding maybe some areas where you could hunt a cow

635
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: or even a bull if you if you're just looking

636
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: for some great meat. And then but if it's up

637
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: to me, if I live in Alaska, I'm gonna go

638
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: for the sheep hunt and go for broke because it's

639
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: not a hunt that you can do everywhere just on

640
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: it over the counter tag, So take advantage of that

641
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: as a resident, and I think that'll be pretty cool.

642
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: Good luck and let me know how you do. Oh

643
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,239
Speaker 1: and thanks for playing my character. For those that don't know,

644
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: I've I've got a character on The Hunter called the

645
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: Wild video game, So if you want to play as

646
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: Remy Warren, you can go there and do that. That's

647
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Thank you guys. This question says, Hey, I

648
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: mean David from Michigan here the last two podcasts. It

649
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: is super helpful. Thanks for all that you've shared. I'm

650
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: eighteen and looking to build up some points for some

651
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: Western hunts in the future, and I feel like I'm

652
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: about twenty years late. I'm hoping to do a sheep

653
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: or goat hunt down the road with point creep hunter

654
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: demand and limited tag ability? Am I wasting my money

655
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: applying for those type of hunts? Thanks and love the podcast.

656
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Um, you know, I think anybody

657
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: looking at it, you go, I've got a lot of

658
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: points in a lot of states, and still the odds

659
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: are very low for those very limited tags for sheep

660
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: and goats, moose, things like that, or even top end

661
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: elk and deer hunts. Um, you know, just getting started

662
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: in it. There are strategies that I would take to apply,

663
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: and I would say that you wouldn't be wasting your

664
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: money because you be kind of on the same plane

665
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: as everyone else. States that don't have points, like um,

666
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: New Mexico or Idaho would be great places to look

667
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: into all so I would stay away from preference point states.

668
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: But any state that has bonus points, you know, you

669
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: actually have an opportunity to draw a while the odds

670
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: may say that you would never draw in your lifetime,

671
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: if you apply, there's a chance. Another thought to think

672
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: about is like raffles for those type of hunts. I know,

673
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: Wild Cheap Foundation always has a few, the Less than

674
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: One Club, the Wild Chief Foundation, It's probably got better

675
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: odds than almost every state draw and it's only available

676
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: for people that are members of the Wild Chief Foundation,

677
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: have never shot a wild cheap and go to some

678
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 1: of those you have to be present to win. Some

679
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: you don't. But like, actually just doing that, you probably

680
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: have the better odds than some of these other things. Um.

681
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: Also there's just you know, you see some other raffles

682
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: through organizations. I mean, it's it's a crapshoot, but you

683
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: actually have a chance, and it's a lot cheaper than

684
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: some states where you have to put up a lot

685
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: of money. Now Montana, on the other hand, applying for

686
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: sheep and goat, it's a lot cheaper than other places.

687
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: But the odds are so slim that it's statistically improbable

688
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: with that anyone will draw, but people do. Somebody has

689
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: to draw the tags. I say that to also say

690
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: it really depends on how much you're willing to spend,

691
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: how much you want to wait. I have friends that

692
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: have taken the approach and and I've kind of done

693
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: a combo of this approach, and I started this about

694
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: when I was your age eighteen. I've always been a

695
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: person that's really good at saving money, especially for things

696
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: that I want or whatever I like to save up.

697
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: I like to plan. Anytime i'd get a paycheck, I

698
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: pull a lot of it out, some of it out

699
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: and immediately put it into a savings account that I

700
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: just never see. Um. I mean, this is just good

701
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: life advice. I started saving for retirement when I was eighteen,

702
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: but I also simultaneously started saving for awesome hunts and

703
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: kind of like a hunt budget. Um, those dream hunts,

704
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: and it's you know, you put a little bit away

705
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: every month, every year or whatever, and over time you're

706
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: gonna have enough to buy a doll sheep hunt or

707
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: possibly a mountain goat hunt. In places like Alaska, Canada,

708
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: the price of those are definitely going up, and it

709
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: might take twenty or thirty years, but you're like, hey,

710
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: at least that route you're guaranteed, and it might be

711
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: the same price as applying in some of these states.

712
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: I've got friends that are like, hey, this application thing

713
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: is getting expensive. I'm just gonna take the money that

714
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: I would apply, put it in an account, and after

715
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: X amount of years, go buy a hunt somewhere where

716
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 1: I know I'll be guaranteed a deer tag, or maybe

717
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: save up for a land owner tag or some kind

718
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: of tag where um, yeah, the price tag is gonna

719
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: be big on it, but I've saved up over twenty

720
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: or thirty years and I know that I'll be able

721
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: to go on it. You know, that's another option as well,

722
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: Or you could do that simultaneously to applying I like,

723
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: I like the luck route as well. I mean, um,

724
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: I've personally drawn four sheep tags, two in a raffle

725
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: and two through state draws. It is pawle. It seems impossible.

726
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: The more you do it, You're like, wow, that's pretty crazy.

727
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: But I've been on the lucky end of a lot

728
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 1: of those things. But I also know that in order

729
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: to win, you have to play, and so I think that, um,

730
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: you really can't go wrong in some of those where

731
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: everybody's playing that game and that's pretty much the only

732
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: way to get it. So I hope that that helps

733
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: and maybe gives a little insight into that. So I

734
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: don't think it's too late, but I think that if

735
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: it's something you want to do, you know, you got

736
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: to think about it, think about other options as well,

737
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: or join the coast Guard, moved to Alaska and get

738
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: a sheep tag. Like our last question, that's a that's

739
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: another option as well. Okay, this question says remy just

740
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: getting interested in archery and have a pass down forty

741
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: pound longbow from the nineteen fifties. It's a York woulden bow.

742
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: The question is knocking the arrow. I see recommendations to

743
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: have the white vein vertical when you knock. This makes

744
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: one of the colored veins hit the bow and causes

745
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: the arrow to wobble a bit before it straightens out.

746
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: Do you knock a long bow differently than a compound

747
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: If so, why? Um, that's a good question. Yeah, I mean, yes,

748
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: you do knock traad bow arrow a little bit different. Um.

749
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: There's a lot of reasons why people might knock them.

750
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: I always put the it's called like the cock vein,

751
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: the off vein out, so what would be the bottom

752
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: vein would touch the shelf, but there's none touching the riser. Now,

753
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: a lot of the positioning of that arrow might just

754
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: be a tuning factor of having the wrong kind of

755
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: flex in your arrow, so you're your bow. That bow

756
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: may not be in tune some people. I've actually got

757
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: one bow where the arrows I'm currently shooting. If I

758
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: put the cock vein out and I shoot that it

759
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: hits a little left even with I'm canted, so I

760
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: turned it and put it like in more And for

761
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: some reason with that spine of arrow, I think so like,

762
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: I think it's actually a little overspined. That arrow now

763
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: like hits right. Um. So it might be something about

764
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: tuning it, or some people have problems with the veins

765
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: hitting their hands or whatever because of their grip. But

766
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: for the most part, I think it's pretty standard to

767
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: put that that vein out and then you know, with

768
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: a compound bow, you don't want it touching anything, um

769
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: because you have a rest on there. So you know,

770
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: if you've got a stationary rest, not a drop away

771
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: the rest, then you're you want those veins to go

772
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: through the rest and not hit the rest. UM. So

773
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: that would be yes. I mean most of the time

774
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: your vein would either be up or down on a

775
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: compound bow, so you're off colored one would be either

776
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: up or down on a compound bow just for the

777
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: use of the rest. But a lot of dropaway rests,

778
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: like you got clearance up or down, so it doesn't

779
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: necessarily make a difference on that um. But for the

780
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 1: most part, yeah, you would knock you're a little bit different.

781
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: Next one comes from Drake. A sent in a picture

782
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: of a giant bowl elk and you said, killed my

783
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: first elk this season. It's a big six Bay six.

784
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: Thanks for the great show. It's the best part of

785
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: my week. That is a great testimonial. Thanks for setting

786
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: that in love getting those that's always that always keeps

787
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: me pumped up. Now. The last question comes from Ian.

788
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: He says, Amy, I have a question for your podcast.

789
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: We're going on our first d I Y public Land

790
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 1: I'll come this fall and are not sure what camp

791
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: style is right for us. Should we make a base

792
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: camp and hike in five plus miles every day, or

793
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: should we camp in the back country every night, or

794
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: a mixture of both. We will either be going to

795
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: Montana or Colorado, depending on the Montana draw. Thank you

796
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: Ian from Tomo, Wisconsin. That's a good question, Ian, Um.

797
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: You know, it just depends on the type of unit

798
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: and you know where you're at. I mean, if I

799
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: was to just like make a generalization, I would probably

800
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: say a combination of both, Um, and depends how many

801
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: days you have. But I think the nice thing about

802
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: the base camp and then going in multiple distances is

803
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: if you go back there and you don't see what

804
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: you're looking for. You're like, man, there's no elk back here.

805
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any elk um and went back here

806
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: two days in a row and didn't really see anything.

807
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: Now you can easily move without being super invested. Another

808
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: option is, you know, you could you could go back

809
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: for a few days if you aren't seeing anything, say okay,

810
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go find a new spot. I like the

811
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: idea of being mobile, but I also like the idea,

812
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: especially in a lot of those places, of getting away

813
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: from people. So um, you know it is it is

814
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: kind of a a toss up, a combination of you know,

815
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: making a plan to hike in, but then saying, hey,

816
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out, we can go check out

817
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: another spot is a good idea as well. Um you know,

818
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: it's really fun. A back country hunt is the way

819
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: that I love to hunt. Getting in past people is great.

820
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: But I also know that kind of day hunting or

821
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: back country day hunting you can cover you actually cover

822
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: probably a lot more ground than just purely hiking in

823
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: and setting up camp. Because you're light your mobile, you

824
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: can cover more country um in in and out and whatever.

825
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: But if you find those areas back there where hey,

826
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: this is a good spot, then you're gonna want to

827
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: your pack in, set up your camp, and then hunt

828
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: it from there, because you're gonna be more effective hunting

829
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: that kind of area once you've honed in on where

830
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: the animals are at. So I think a combination of

831
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: both is great. But it also just depends on the

832
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: type of unit you're in, um how much you know

833
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: pressure it might receive. Where if there's like good wilderness

834
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 1: and trails, if there's good places to get away from people,

835
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: or if it's an area where, hey, those elk might

836
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: be a little more migratory, it might be more seasonal

837
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: seasonality of the unit where the elk are going to be,

838
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: you might need a few days to figure out where

839
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: the heck are these things. Try a couple of different

840
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: spots and then kind of hone in and then target

841
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: in on those animals, pack in and make your hunt.

842
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: I just want to thank everybody again for all the

843
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: questions that came in. There's a lot that I didn't

844
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: get to you. I I try to kind of pick

845
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: and I've probably got twenty of them here that I

846
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: didn't hit. But you know, feel free to keep writing

847
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: in the best way is always um at remy warrant

848
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: on Instagram send me a direct message on there. I

849
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: mean I get a lot of messages, so and I

850
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: see good ones, I kind of like screenshot and put

851
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: them in a special folder. Unfortunately we don't have a

852
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: real mail bag or a real mail room, but I

853
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: like to visualize like a fake mail room similar to

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Speaker 1: the scene from elf UM. I think that would be

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Speaker 1: like an awesome mail room situation. But other than that,

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Speaker 1: keeps sending those in. So the next couple of episodes,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be going on kind of this theme of train.

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Speaker 1: So I want to talk about two of the best

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Speaker 1: things that you can prepare, and i'd be getting your

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Speaker 1: body ready for any kind of grueling mountain hunt or

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Speaker 1: western hunt. And then another thing you can train is

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Speaker 1: your eyes and glassing. So I'm going to cover those

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Speaker 1: and then and then I want to do kind of

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Speaker 1: like this countdown of some of my favorite spring hunts

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Speaker 1: as we start to get into that spring season. So

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Speaker 1: maybe some stuff you thought about, maybe some stuff you didn't.

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Speaker 1: I'll sprinkle in a few little hunting tips and tactics

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Speaker 1: as well, so you won't want to miss those, make

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Speaker 1: sure you keep circling back each Thursday and until then,

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Speaker 1: hunt hard and keep the questions coming. Catch you guys later.

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