1 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, presented by 3 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Bally BTT, an official sports betting partner of your Cleveland 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Browns on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. He are your hosts, 5 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: Al Let's you're live on a Tuesday edition of Cleveland 7 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: Browns Daily. 8 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: I am merely Bo. 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: He is the great Gibbe. How are you living, buddy? Oh? 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: Correct, baby? Am I on? You're on? You're on? 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 4: You have a light. 12 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 3: I know I have a light, but yeah, you're on here. 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: For whatever reason, I can't hear to my headphones. 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: Oh no, sorry, what. 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: Did you do? I don't know? 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: You're on now? 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: Sure? Kind of maybe maybe there we go? There you go. 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: It's it's touchy that like everything in this studio. It's touchy. 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: You built it. Shame on me. 20 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: What did we do this when we redid this studio? 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: Did we do it in the press room? Did the 22 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 2: show for when this was going, Yes, we would do 23 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: it down there was in the summer. We went down there. 24 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: Didn't one of us sit up like on the because 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: we tried to stream it on the day Ebo. 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were on the day at some point we 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: were right, you were at the podium what it was, 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: and I were up on the podium doing it. 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: My god, I wish they should have sent us to 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: the condo. 31 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: The craziest one is when I was still doing my 32 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: morning show from here and we had laurniis was here 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: and we were doing like the total renovation. Oh and 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: there was all that, and he and I would do 35 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: the show in this studio and then we would run 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: out to the to the like overseeing the practice fields 37 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: to get airs because it was. 38 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: Like particle it is crazy crazy. 39 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: We're like, well, you got to do it, and he 40 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: is in lawser up here, so we would we would 41 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: do it. We took the time, we didn't do the 42 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: like a week off, we didn't do the show during 43 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: that time. And then we were at the undisclosed location 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: we were which is lovely. 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: Kind of miss that spotted cows. And by the way, 46 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: the guy that's coming in studio today at two o'clock, 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: the last time you and him had a one on one, 48 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: you're right, was in that in that place. 49 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: You're exactly right. Yeah, when Bubba was in it was 50 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: that was he had just that was his very first 51 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: interview he did with any of us, wasn't it? 52 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: Or was he just no? 53 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: Had he been in with us before? I thought, I think, 54 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: I think Z hadn't met him yet, and I thought, 55 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: I said, you're gonna love him. 56 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: That might have been the case. It was right. It 57 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: was the Monday after Jim Brown passed. It was remember 58 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: we were doing the Jim Brown Show, and they were like, 59 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: what you still want Bubba. I'm like, yeah, he Bubba knew. 60 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: Him, Yeah, I would know him. Yeah, I do remember that. Yeah. 61 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: And then I remember Coach stopped by on on his 62 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: way out, yeah for summer. So yeah, I was thinking 63 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: about that in regard to you know, obviously the Miles 64 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: News is the predominant news of the day yesterday in 65 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: the NFL. And was thinking that from the perspective of, 66 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: you know, the first show that I the first shows 67 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: I did here were his second year, and the idea, 68 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: you know, like that you guys obviously been here for 69 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: his entire career, but first ones I did were his 70 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: second career. Is Bake's rookie year and it was his 71 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: second year, and you think about all of that time. 72 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it feels like a blink. But all of 73 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: those seasons that stack, and all of the different permeations 74 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: of Brown's teams that have been going. You're building towards 75 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: one thing and then it kind of flips into building 76 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: towards something else, and you try to get to where 77 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: the two teams are on Sunday, which is the Super Bowl. 78 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: And that's kind of the goal of all of these 79 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: things is to get to that point, because if you're 80 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: not there, then what are you doing? That's it? So 81 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: like you know, you think of about how quick time passes, 82 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: and certainly with this this Miles stuff, and somebody said, well, 83 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: Miles has been there eight years, and you go, I guess, so, yeah, 84 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: doesn't feel like it. 85 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: I mean, is he twenty eight, twenty nine, twenty nine, Yeah, okay, yeah, 86 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: so that's eight years. I mean it goes by in 87 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: a hurry, it does. 88 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: And I think it's your if you are if you're Miles, 89 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: if you're someone who has put in that amount of time, 90 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: your football mortality starts coming into play too. Like you know, organizationally, 91 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: coaching doing the job we do. Just think of all 92 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: of the great friends of the program who have come 93 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: by since we've been doing this like all the various 94 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,559 Speaker 2: people who have Oh my god, what's he got? Change 95 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: a clothes? 96 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 5: It's ready, we. 97 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 3: Have atat we have a meeting today. 98 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: Well, he's got an extra extra shirt. 99 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 3: Can't sweat through it. Gotta be gotta be cool, calm 100 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: and collect. 101 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Nick, Yeah, that's right. Aware, he's got his Uh, 102 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: he's like draper, Now, swag is the extra shirt and 103 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 2: then pull it out of the drawer, put on the 104 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,559 Speaker 2: clean shirt out of the drawer. 105 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 3: That's great, that's perfect. Absolutely, that solves it. Well, have 106 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 3: the extra one. 107 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, there is a football mortality to this. You 108 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: think of all of the folks who whether it be Coal, 109 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: you think about Jarvis and all of the time you 110 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: think about money Mitch, like all those guys Kerkoh before that, 111 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: all the guys that would come through and we would 112 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: see him all the time. Obviously since COVID we've seen 113 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: less and less of the guys than we used to 114 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: see back in the old days. But even with a 115 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: guy like Miles who was just has is such a 116 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: bedrock of what you want the franchise to be. And 117 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: obviously steadfast and making sure that he stays here and 118 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: getting back to that point will obviously be the goal 119 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: of the franchise. Adam Schefter was on McAfee yesterday reiterating 120 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: that the Browns wouldn't budge on their position to not 121 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: trade Miles Garrett. 122 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 6: This is not a surprise to the Browns. The brown 123 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 6: knew about his unhappiness. I think they've asked around, They've 124 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 6: prepared for it. They've gotten some opinions about how to 125 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 6: best handle this situation, knowing that it could be coming. 126 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 6: And I think that they are dug in and entrenched 127 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 6: in their stance that they're not going to trade Miles Garrett. 128 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: Jeremy Fowler was on Sports Center yesterday and he heard 129 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: from sources that Miles would also not budge away from 130 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: his trade request. 131 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 7: I've been checking with sources close to this situation, and 132 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 7: I'm told that Miles Garrett is not making any sort 133 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 7: of contract ploy here, that his words are genuine. He 134 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 7: simply wants to win and feels that he cannot do 135 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 7: so in Cleveland. I even asked a source, if the 136 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 7: Browns are aggressive this offseason and improving the roster, could 137 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 7: that change his mind? 138 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 3: And I was told, noh, it's early. 139 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: Here's what I said yesterday, like that I feel as 140 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: strong about it now as I did then when I 141 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: said it. This has been a conversation very clearly that 142 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 2: the front office and Miles have been having behind closed 143 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: doors for probably since the end of the season. I 144 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: don't know who knows. Only they would know. If it's 145 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: something that that is talked about weekly daily, who knows, 146 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: Or if it's something that's been said once or twice. 147 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: We have no idea. Only they would know that. But 148 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: what happened Monday, while not new information for the Browns 149 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: and the front office, was the first public Now this 150 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: went public, and so the next part of it going 151 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: public is people like Chefter reporting from our perspective, the 152 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: Brown's perspective, we're not budging, and people reporting from Miles perspective. 153 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: Jeremy Fowler, he's not budget. Either someone's gonna budge. 154 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: Someone has to correct. 155 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: So either you're going to get back to Miles is 156 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: going to be impressed with whatever happens this offseason, or 157 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: there will be a second thought from the organization about 158 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: what to do with him. I have no indication or 159 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: belief that the organization will do anything other than a 160 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: hold firm on this. You know how much you want 161 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: him to wear that jersey for this franchise, for his 162 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: entire career. And so my hunch is that getting back 163 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: in manding fences the way that things are going to go. 164 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, get him back in the building. Let's have 165 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: some more discussions like what what did you not like? 166 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: You know what? What did you want to hear? What 167 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: did you not want to you know? What do you 168 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: want to hear? What do you want us to say? Like, 169 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: I'm not asking for you to determine everything, but what 170 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: didn't you like that we offered? 171 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: I think that it's funny. I had a I was 172 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: having a conversation this morning with one of the PFF 173 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: draft guys about the quarterback position. 174 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: Drafting number two over very nice. 175 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 2: And I said, I asked about Chadur specifically, because of 176 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: the two, Chadur seems more like the fit for what 177 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: Kevin wants to do. He's incredibly accurate, He's incredibly bright 178 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: in terms of making the right reads and throwing to 179 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: the correct reads. He ran for his life a lot 180 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: at Colorado because they didn't have a great offensive line, and. 181 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 5: He did. 182 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: But a lot of they think the bad habits. I 183 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: don't think the bad habits are the bad habits that like, 184 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 2: for example, quinn Ewers makes I think the bad habits 185 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: are trying to make more out of a play that 186 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 2: isn't there because you know that you have to score 187 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: a bunch of points because your defense isn't great and 188 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: you don't have a run game. And so I think 189 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: he would try to sometimes extend plays to create a 190 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: shot or to create a lot of times they were 191 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: in third and long, and it was a way to 192 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 2: try to create that. But like and so the PFF guy, 193 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: I asked him the question, nice guy, good dude, Dalton Wasserman, 194 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: and maybe we'll have him on here in the next 195 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 2: month or so whatever. But we had him on and 196 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: one of the things he said was he's talking about 197 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: Shador and he said, I don't think would be a 198 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: good fit for the Browns because I think they have 199 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: too many needs. And I said, and I'm thinking to myself, well, 200 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: that's the only one that matters, is that need correct 201 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: And he went on to say about talked about how 202 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: tough he was, how historically accurate he is, his ability 203 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: to process all of those things like this sounds like 204 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: everything we would want. And then in all of these 205 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: mock drafts, I see him going six to the Raiders 206 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: or third to the Giants. If he's going sixth or third, go. 207 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: Second, yeah, go say is he good enough? If he's enough, but. 208 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: The Giants swoop in and steal will yeah, just take him? 209 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: Who cares? 210 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: NBC said something to me today when I dropped him 211 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: off at school. I thought it was I actually complete 212 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: agreement with him. He goes, Dad, well, who are the 213 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: good quarterbacks in twenty twenty six? And I said, well, 214 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: I don't know in twenty We thought last year in 215 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, the best quarterbacks in twenty twenty five 216 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: would be Quinn yours and Carson Beck. Carson Beck is 217 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: with his girlfriend at the University of Miami coming off 218 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: of right elbow surgery, and Quinn Ewers could be the 219 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: sixth or seventh quarterback off the board. Sure, And he goes, well, 220 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: then if we draft the quarterback at two and we're bad, 221 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: just draft another one. 222 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: And I'm like, nailed it. 223 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 5: Just keep doing it. 224 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: Seventh grader's got it right. 225 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: Just keep doing it, baby. It's I just and I 226 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: use the example this morning of look, you have a 227 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: great deal of respect for the Pittsburgh Steelers and their 228 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: excellence and Mike Tomlin nevering having a losing season. But 229 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: do you know how many playoff wins they have since 230 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger left? Less than us? Yeah, okay, without the quarterback, 231 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: there's a hard ceiling on what you can be. And 232 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: so you can fill all these other spots and try 233 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: to have offensive line or defense. Oh he got to 234 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: get is this a great defensive line draft? Let's load 235 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: up on D tackles and dns. All right, but if 236 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: you don't have the guy, there's a ceiling on what 237 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: you can be. And so when you come back to 238 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: this conversation about Miles give that's what I keep coming 239 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: back to. If Miles is displeased, he's displeased because he 240 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: knows he's got to play Burrow and Lamar four times 241 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: a season, and you got to go through them, and 242 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 2: then you got to go through Josh, and then you 243 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 2: got the wizard Mahomes at the end. And if you 244 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 2: don't have somebody who can go toe to toe in 245 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: those sword fights, what chance do you have. 246 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: You're not wrong, You're not wrong at all. I think 247 00:11:55,080 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: that someone made the mistake yesterday of saying you know, well, 248 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 3: you know, if you're Miles. You gotta be frustrated. You're 249 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: always playing, you're always down fourteen nothing. I don't that's 250 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: not the case. Defense was pretty good again this year. 251 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: They had moments where they struggled, but you know, the 252 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: defense is still pretty good. But like you said, if 253 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: you can't score, if you can't score twenty points in 254 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: a game, which we struggled to do this year, yeah, 255 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: then you're putting your defense at an awful position. Because 256 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: the defense, Joe Burrow is gonna get points. Lamar Jackson's 257 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: gonna get points. Even even the Pukers can score points. 258 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: Right with Russell Wilson on a good day. I know 259 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 3: the guy behind me might not agree with that, but 260 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 3: that's neither here nor there. 261 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 8: Man. 262 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: I know he had a hell of a statement that 263 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: I can't share on the radio. Right before you get 264 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: in here. It was unbelievable, really thought Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah, 265 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: I won't say it. I won't say it. By the way, 266 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: I have a feeling that every that what's the song 267 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: she sings, the one that was the big hit. 268 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 9: Talk about please please please no espress that one. 269 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I every ad that I hear there's a supermarket 270 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: ad there's a I want to say it's an RB. 271 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: Every ad I hear has that that song sounds like 272 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: to me now my kit one of the boys were playing. 273 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: They was playing on some one of their nonsense months 274 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: and every time I hear another AD, I hear that 275 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: song there. So yeah, but yeah, it's but you have 276 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: to beat those quarterbacks. If they don't have one, what 277 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: do you have? 278 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: You're still gonna and most of those games, I mean, 279 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: even the best defenses, it's gonna be twenty seven to 280 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: twenty four, it's gonna be thirty to twenty seven. It 281 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: could be thirty two twenty eight. Like, you have to 282 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 3: score points to win football games. And I think that's 283 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 3: where Miles is coming from. I can't. I can take 284 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: care of the defensive side. Who's taking care of the 285 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: offensive side? You don't eat the football field? 286 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't even need you don't. You don't 287 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: need to have the number one defense in football. No, 288 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: to win at the ultimate level, you need to be 289 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: at the type of defense that can make a couple 290 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: of game breaking plays when you need them. And Miles 291 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: can do that. So that's really what what the job is. 292 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: What's the Chiefs defense ranked? We have any idea. Can 293 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: you look like it's six. 294 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: They're pretty good, they're solid. 295 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: Okay, but you don't have three number one. You can 296 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: be a top ten. You could probably even be a 297 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: top fifteen and be all right. Yes, yes, I think 298 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: the Eagles might be a little higher. I could be 299 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: wrong on that. 300 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 10: As of January thirty first, they were ranked ninth, so 301 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 10: they were in the top ten in total defense the Chiefs. 302 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, thanks keV. 303 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, ninth and total defense fourth and scoring defense. 304 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's you're you're not You're not the top five. Okay, great, 305 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: good news. We have Patrick Mahomes. We can make up 306 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: for any deficiency if the defense has a bad day. 307 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 308 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: The Browns can't say that right now. 309 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: No, no, they can't. 310 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: We good news. It's February. We have twelve weeks to 311 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: the draft. We have free agency before that. We have 312 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: time to put it all together. 313 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 314 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: That's why I'm like, we can react the way we 315 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: want to about the Miles Garrett situation. Miles Garrett is 316 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: Cleveland Brown. He's under contract for the next two years. 317 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: Whatever is going to happen between now and when the 318 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: team reports in August or late July, because it's not 319 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 3: about the offseason workouts. No, I think we can assume. 320 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if he would be here or not. 321 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 3: Maybe he will be. I mean, you got to be 322 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: at mandatory mini camp in June. That's the one thing 323 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: that's mandatory. 324 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I think it's one of those things 325 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: you just need time and you need. 326 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 5: No one. 327 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: You go three and fourteen, and this is bound to 328 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: be happen, you know. I mean, you came off of 329 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: a great season and then you go three. You are 330 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: what your record says you are. There's no hiding it 331 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: like it is what it is. 332 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: And he's putting up great numbers. Yeah, and he's going, 333 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: I'm winning three games. I got it. Yeah, it's tough. 334 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: We got to get you know. But I would also say, 335 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: you're thirteen months removed from eleven wins in a playoff trip. 336 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: I know that seems far and you know, well, we 337 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: have a lot to do to get back to that. 338 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: But that was also I mean, that was obviously. 339 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 3: You're making him. 340 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: He's raising the roof over there. That Flacco season was 341 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: the most fun any of us have had, and it 342 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: was really a month. It's really just December that season 343 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: kind of had everything in it, but that month was 344 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: was pure joy. There's also no chance you're winning the 345 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, correct, Like we go into that postseason saying 346 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: gotta be fun to win around you weren't going anywhere 347 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: beyond that. So that's the spot that you're going to 348 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 2: figure out. You know how important it is for this 349 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: ownership and for this front office to get back to 350 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: winning quickly, because they've won more than any other group 351 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: has won around here since burning and those guys left. 352 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: I mean, it's been a long time since we've had 353 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: this type of even sustained success, and that's acknowledging coming 354 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: off of a three and fourteen. But you want to 355 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 2: get back to being in the mix. You want to 356 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: be back to being in the postseason, challenging for the division, 357 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: beating your division rivals, the type of things that Kevin 358 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 2: has done for a while of his time here. Has 359 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: not won a division obviously, but knocked on the door 360 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: of it. But to get there is one step to 361 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: get beyond. That is the step that you want to 362 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 2: take because otherwise you are a team, whether it's Tampa 363 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: Bay or Seattle or Pittsburgh, and all of those things 364 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: seem really fun right now because we just went three 365 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 2: and fourteen. So you'd have loved to have had a 366 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 2: season where you got to host a playoff game. You 367 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: would love to have a season when you won the division. 368 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: But none of the those teams are close to winning 369 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: Super Bowls. Nope, none of them. They all have hard 370 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: ceilings on him in terms of what they're capable of 371 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: because of their quarterback play. There isn't a level that 372 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: they can get to that can get there. So that's 373 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: the thing that you got to get back to. You 374 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: got to find that guy, and we've been in search 375 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 2: of it, really probably since Bernie left. You've been searching 376 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 2: for one, the one quarterback who is the true franchise quarterback. 377 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 2: Whether you think about all the chances that we've had 378 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: at it, you talk about Cout in terms of picking high, 379 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: we've only had two. You had Couch number one overall, 380 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: Baker number two overall. Everything else was are any of 381 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: the rest of them even picked in the top Brady, 382 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: but he was a top ten? No, no, no, but Brady 383 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: was a first rounder. What I'm sairst round? I'm talking 384 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: about pick of the draft. You got the first or 385 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: second quarterback in the draft, it's only been Bake and Couch. 386 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 2: All the rest of them were in the teens. You know, 387 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 2: you're trying to make it work. It wasn't a situation 388 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: where you you went up to number one or number 389 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: two and drafted your quarterback. It's this one and it's Bake, 390 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: and now we're here, we are again at number two overall, 391 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: and I have no idea what who knows? I mean, 392 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: we don't know what they think about these quarterbacks. I 393 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: don't know what we think about this class. The one 394 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: thing that I keep the more conversation I keep having 395 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: about this with more and more people, is if you 396 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: actually listen to what people say about shuor Sanders, it's 397 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 2: pretty good. 398 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 3: I haven't heard anything bad. The only bad thing is 399 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 3: who his dad is. But why, I don't know why 400 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 3: that's bad. 401 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: Seemed to me like he made him work for everything. 402 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 2: I mean, the kid played at Jackson State. Yeah, we 403 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: went to Jackson State and balled out, and then he 404 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: went to Colorado and they rebuilt the whole program. That 405 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: was the worst Power five job in America when Dion 406 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: took that job, and they struggled in year one after 407 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 2: a nice start, and then last year they won nine games. 408 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: He flipped it really quickly. Yeah, so I don't even 409 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 2: understand the negative of that. His dad's on the All 410 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: NFL team, Like we talk about that going to the 411 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, that one room that's resigned for the 412 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: first ballot. Guys, he's the corner. So there's proof there 413 00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: in that. 414 00:19:59,400 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. 415 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: I just don't see the natives this morning. The well, 416 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: he does have the size of Josh Allen. That prototype 417 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: who does who does? Jane Daniels doesn't. 418 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: By the way, the year Josh Allen was drafted, none 419 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: of us were really interested in Josh Allen. 420 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd know that better than me. In terms of 421 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: the I can. 422 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 3: Assure you we weren't. Yeah he was, uh, I mean 423 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 3: obviously Baker was at the top. Yeah, unbeknownst to us 424 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 3: until right before eighteen hours before the draft or draft morning. 425 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: I think. 426 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 2: Who else was that? The Rosen, Darnold Allen, all those 427 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: guys are in that draft. 428 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, lamar, lamar. I mean that's but Alan was he 429 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 3: was big, he had a cannon. But was he I 430 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: think he's scared. You know, we all were scared in 431 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 3: it from a media standpoint, is was he Brandon Whedon. 432 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: Brand Whiedon was big and tall. He was older, but 433 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 3: Brandon Whedon had trouble hitting the broadside up a barn 434 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 3: from five feet away. Yeah. 435 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: Well, the taco around Allan was could you teach accuracy? 436 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: Which he's He's one of the few that has ever 437 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 3: been able to change that. 438 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the other thing that he benefited 439 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: a lot from was the was largely the same, the 440 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: same coach, the same all the way through. Like they 441 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: have organizational stability that they built around it. But I 442 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 2: remember talking to Vic at the at the combine after 443 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: his rookie year, and there was major concern with just 444 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 2: his is unwillingness to protect the ball the way that 445 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: they wanted, Like he was very willing to put it 446 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: in harm's way. He had that crazy play in the 447 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 2: playoff game. Actually, I think against DeShawn was that Buffalo 448 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: in Houston where he had a crazy turnover. 449 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 3: I think it could have been, Uh, I was thinking 450 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 3: Buffalo Jacksonville. But yeah, I remember, I remember after the 451 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 3: rookie year, We're like, wow, he was better than we thought, 452 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: and Vick's like, I don't know if he is. Yeah, 453 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 3: he's growing up to. 454 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: Do absolutely they were worried about. The concern was always 455 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: the turnovers with him. So that would have been his 456 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 2: second year or his first year. All right, No, it 457 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 2: was not Houston. Oh no, no, it was his It 458 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 2: was his second year. It was against DeShawn. They won 459 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: a playoff, the Texans beat them. Deshaun was with Houston. 460 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 2: The Texans beat them in the wildcard round twenty two 461 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: to nineteen overtime. 462 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: Houston went on to play Kansas City. Was at the 463 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: high scoring affair in Houston. 464 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: Blew thirty one, Yeah, thirty one, fifty one. 465 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, was Houston was up big early on in that 466 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 3: game and then blew it. 467 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Houston rallied from down sixteen to nothing in the 468 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: third quarter to win the game against Buffalo in that game, 469 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: and I'm pretty sure there was a turnover that that 470 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 2: Alan had late in that game. 471 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. The first two years he wasn't. He wasn't what 472 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 3: he is now. 473 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: No, No, but he got there, yeah, there, and they 474 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: have stability and now he's very likely going to win 475 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: MVP of the league. So that's the kind of thing 476 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: that you got to have. And if if you just 477 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 2: look around, i mean you think about I mean, they 478 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: had super Bowl Media Day yesterday, and I know they're 479 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: having some more stuff down there today. But you think 480 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: of those two teams in the way that they are built. 481 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: Philly consistently builds all of the pieces. They build it 482 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: from the line of scrimmage up and they've done that 483 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 2: for a long time with Howie Roseman. But they've also 484 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: relentlessly pursued quarterback. They traded up with us to get 485 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: Carson Wentz. Correct, they have tried to find the answer 486 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 2: at that position first and foremost, they would give contracts 487 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 2: to guys who shine in brief moments at other places. 488 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: All of those things were true, and now you're at 489 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: a spot where they land on Hurtz, who I don't 490 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: know that anybody thought he would be what he was, 491 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 2: even them. I don't even know if Roseman thought he 492 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: would be what he was. And I remember when they 493 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: came here for practice. Well, this all just comes down 494 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: to Jalen. Can he be accurate? He has been? 495 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 3: Well, do you recall, like Carson Wentz was the man. 496 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: He was the man he should have. He was gonna 497 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: win the MVP before he got hurt the year they 498 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl. 499 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: But and then they draft Hurts in the second round 500 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 3: and everybody's like, wait a minute, we have a quarterback. Yeah, 501 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 3: maybe you didn't have a quarterback. Keep taking them, Yeah, 502 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: gotta get it sorted out. So that's that's kind of 503 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 3: where we stand. And this is going to probably die 504 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 3: down for a while now, and then it'll spike up 505 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: again at the combine and we'll be dealing with it 506 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: a little bit there. Another trade news, Cooper Cup has 507 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: officially been made available for trade by the Rams. 508 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: Per his social media for him, he's the quote was, 509 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: I was informed with the team was seeking a trade immediately, 510 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: and we'll be working with me and my family to 511 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 2: find the right place to continue competing for championships. I 512 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 2: don't agree with the decision and always believe it was 513 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: a beginning end in LA. So if there's one thing 514 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: that I have learned over these years, there are so 515 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: many things that are out of your control, but it's 516 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: how you respond to these things that you will look 517 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: back and remember, look back on and remember, here's the deal. 518 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: He hasn't been healthy. 519 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: Yeah since the triple. 520 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: Let's see how g Man does the guest of stats. 521 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 2: Do you know many seasons over a thousand yard receiving 522 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: Cooper Cup ass in his career. 523 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 9: I want to say, it's three, it's just two. 524 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: It's two. 525 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 9: Okay, you're in the vicinity though. The year he won 526 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 9: the Triple Crown. 527 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 2: In nineteen hundred, and then there's two years before they 528 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: had get like twelve hundred. But health has been he's 529 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: thirty one and health has been the issue eight years. 530 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: I think he was eight years he was a senior 531 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 3: Bowl guy. Could have been. He was a senior Bowl 532 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 3: guy when Hugh Jackson and the Brown staff were coaching. 533 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: Was he Eastern Washington? 534 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 11: Yep, yep, Eastern Washington and then the Rams had him 535 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 11: Robert Woods and golf, Yeah, yep, Yeah, but his his. 536 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 3: Career took off when Stafford got there. Yeah. Yeah, I 537 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: think he had sixty one. He's sixty eight catches this year. 538 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just under it. So right around nine it 539 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: was right around eight hundred yards, I want to say this. 540 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 3: Year, yeah, something like that. And the Cup is their 541 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 3: number one and right now, the Rams around the hook 542 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 3: for the next two seasons of thirty million and twenty 543 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: five million something like that. But if they release it, 544 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: but he's only it's only like five million guaranteed money 545 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 3: this year. Yeah, and there's no guarantees next year, so 546 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 3: it makes the contract favorable to move. 547 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, last three years, uh seventy five for eight to 548 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: twelve in nine games, so he's a monster in those 549 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: nine games, and then twenty twenty three coming back for 550 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: injury fifty nine catches seven thirty seven, twenty twenty four 551 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 2: coming back for him injury sixty seven and seven ten. 552 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: So that's where it stands on that, all right, Lots 553 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: to get to on the program today. Among the topics 554 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: of conversation. Bubba Van Trone will be joining us. That's 555 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: coming up at two o'clock. Get his view of what 556 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 2: happened down at the Senior Bowl. You have that to 557 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: look forward to, which is nice. We'll go around the 558 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: sports world a little bit of Super Bowl media Day, 559 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: Matt Miller's two round mock draft. You have that to 560 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: look for two which is nice. Some comments from offensive 561 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: coordinator Tommy Reese that we will share on Jerry Judy, 562 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: Joel Botonio as well. So lots to get to here 563 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 2: on the program. Coming up next, we begin our tour 564 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: around the NFL with a check in with the Jacksonville Jaguars, 565 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: So we have that to look forward to coming up next, JP, 566 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: Shadrick and to join us there. 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Keep it Twisted Cleveland, JP 578 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 2: Chadwick joining us Jacksonville Jaguar Senior Reporter and Editor, JP, 579 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: thank you so much for taking the time. I guess 580 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: when you start a big changes obviously a new operation 581 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 2: down there in terms of coach GM eventually as well, 582 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: but it probably all starts with Trevor Lawrence. This was 583 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: a guy who you draft number one overall and he 584 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: is everything that you want him to be. The start 585 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 2: to his career has been tough. I mean, there's been 586 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that is of none of his 587 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: own control. Where is he now and where is the 588 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: belief in him from the organization as it stands right now? 589 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 12: Well, first off, it's going to be with you again. 590 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 12: And yeah, that is the number one priority the quarterback 591 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 12: because well, where he stands is he's got six more 592 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 12: years on his contract, so he's not going anywhere. So 593 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 12: that was the number one priority in the interview process 594 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 12: was how do you activate, for lack of a better term, 595 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 12: Trevor Lawrence and get him to be the dynamic, generational 596 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 12: quarterback that everybody felt he was when he came out 597 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 12: in the draft and there's been so much change for him. 598 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 12: Of course, his rookie season was the Urban Meyer situation 599 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 12: that didn't go well, and then Doug Peterson came in. 600 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 12: There was a little hope that, okay, things might turn around. 601 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 12: And obviously in the first year they made the rally 602 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 12: late in the season and got the job done to 603 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 12: get to the playoffs and won a playoff game, but 604 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 12: then it just collapsed the next season and after an 605 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 12: eight and three start, and injuries were a big piece 606 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 12: of that he had four different injuries two seasons ago 607 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 12: in the back half of the season, couldn't just couldn't 608 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 12: get right. It was trying to play through some things 609 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 12: and they needed him out there. And then last season 610 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 12: banged up again, you know, the towards the end, the 611 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 12: left shoulder injury of course, the concussion against the Texans, 612 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 12: and he still got his left arm in a sling 613 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 12: last I saw him during the introductory press conference of 614 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 12: Liam Cohen the other day, so he had another offense 615 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 12: coming for Trevor Lawrence. But from all acut from here, 616 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 12: from Liam Cohen and the folks that we've heard in 617 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 12: the organization so far since all the changes, that he's 618 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 12: part of that process to figure out an offense that 619 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 12: works best around him, that puts pieces around him that 620 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 12: makes him live up to his best. So obviously Liam 621 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 12: Cohen had the best answer to that question because he's 622 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 12: now the head coach and pretty much a clean slate 623 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 12: with the Trevor Lawrence and let's see where he goes 624 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 12: from here. Let's get him healthy. It seems like he's 625 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 12: going to be on track to be ready for the 626 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 12: off season program. 627 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: Do you think that what Cohen does offensively fits Lawrence 628 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: and what if any insight or poll did Lawrence have 629 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: on this higher. 630 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 12: I'm going to guess that he was probably asked in 631 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 12: general what he thought. I don't think he was in 632 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 12: the room during the interview, you know what I mean. 633 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 12: But if he's that big piece of the organization, Hey, 634 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 12: what what would make you the most comfortable? 635 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 3: Right? 636 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 12: I could see that being a part of the conversation earlier, 637 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 12: maybe even before the interview process. So, yeah, he's a 638 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 12: franchise and you got to make sure he's happy and 639 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 12: comfortable moving ahead. And you know, I think from what 640 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 12: Liam Cohen has talked about already, they had a actually shot. 641 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 12: Connor JAG's owner leaves back up a little bit said 642 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 12: during the firing of Doug Peterson before the firing of 643 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 12: Trent Balkey that this offense was a little too predictable. Well, 644 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 12: the way to be unpredictable is to run the football 645 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 12: if you can balance it out, and they had issues 646 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 12: being physical in the run game when they needed to. 647 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 12: That would set up the passing game, and they just 648 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 12: didn't have that enough in the last couple of years 649 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 12: around here. So I think that'll be a priority, is 650 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 12: figure out the strength in the middle of the O 651 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 12: line and the D line for that matter, but certainly 652 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 12: on the offensive side, be able to go out there 653 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 12: and handle a situation late in the game when they 654 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 12: know you're gonna run. You know they're gonna run, everybody said, 655 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 12: even knows they're gonna run, and then you can play 656 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 12: offense off that. They haven't had that around Trevor Lawrence 657 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 12: in the last couple of years JP. 658 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 3: I think the one thing that's interesting about this football 659 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 3: team from a Jacksonville standpoint is the cupboard is not 660 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 3: bear and Brian Thomas is a star in the making. 661 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: Very impressive. Christian Kirk, I know, was dinged up a 662 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: little bit and then Ingram spent some time dinged up 663 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 3: as well. But there's some talent on the offensive side. 664 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 3: And you mentioned the running game tank Bigsby Travis Etten like, 665 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: Who's how do you determine are one of those two 666 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 3: guys the guy can they beat the full time guy 667 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: or do you have to go out and get a 668 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: third running back. 669 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 12: I think there will probably be some kind of effort 670 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 12: to get a third guy. I don't know what that 671 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 12: looks like or what that feels like, whether it's free agency, 672 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 12: or whether it's in the drafts, because both these guys 673 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 12: are in the final year of the contracts, you know, 674 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 12: rookie contracts. I mean, Travis Etn is going a stip 675 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 12: year option coming up this year. You're gonna make six 676 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 12: point two million dollars, so he's going to be on 677 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 12: the field, you know, for a little bit. And thank 678 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 12: Bigsby showed some promise at times, but then late in 679 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 12: the season put the ball in the deck a few 680 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 12: times and you can't have that that was an issue 681 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 12: earlier in his career and it pop back up. I 682 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 12: still think it's probably a two horse situation in the backfield. 683 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 12: Certain situations bring different guys in. I don't think there's 684 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 12: a true bell cow back that you handed off to 685 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 12: twenty five thirty times unless somebody's hot. I mean that's 686 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 12: a different animal, right If somebody's got the hot hand, okay, 687 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 12: maybe you can adjust that. So that's where they are 688 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 12: the running back game. But in terms of the wide 689 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 12: receivers and the tight end, yeah, I mean Evan Ingram 690 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 12: had the same kind of shoulder issue last year and 691 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 12: he should be good to go this year, and he's 692 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 12: shown that he has the ability to be a dynamic playmaker, 693 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 12: not only in the short passing game but down the field, 694 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 12: and can line up almost at any position at wide 695 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 12: receiver if you need him to, and can become a 696 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 12: mismatch against some of the smaller guys on the outside. 697 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 12: And let's see about Christian Kirk. I think there's some 698 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 12: room for him, or room in the cap if for 699 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 12: some reason they decide to move forward, move on. What 700 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 12: do they do to fill that role? A little too 701 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 12: early to tell, but Brian Thomas Jr. Remember they didn't 702 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 12: throw the football to him in the first half of 703 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 12: the season four games where he got four looks in 704 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 12: a game like four targets. 705 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: Man, what we what? 706 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 12: So either it was a lack of confidence in the 707 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 12: old line to throw it deep down the field or 708 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 12: just a misthrow here or there. I think he's had 709 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 12: his head on straight the whole time, And of course 710 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 12: as the season went along towards the end, when everybody 711 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 12: knew the ball was going to him, he still was 712 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 12: able to stand out and play well and got himself 713 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 12: as the first alternate to the Pro Bowl. So he 714 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 12: is a real bright spot for what this team wants 715 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 12: to do. And he's got a killer instinct. He's a 716 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,959 Speaker 12: little sauce spoken, at least so far. But like I said, 717 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 12: I think he's got his head on straight and he 718 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 12: understands what he needs to be for this offense, and 719 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 12: that's a dynamic number one receiver. 720 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 3: JP. 721 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: How do you how does it how does it finally 722 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 2: get to Liam Cohen? And now that you've had the 723 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 2: introductory press conference, do you understand I guess, for lack 724 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: of a better phrase, what all the fuss was about. 725 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: So far? 726 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean we've had a few interactions, right, I mean, 727 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 12: the opening press conference was one. There was a fan 728 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 12: rally a couple of days after that where there were 729 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 12: a few thousand people in the club and he's on 730 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 12: the stage with me and Bisselli. And that reaction from 731 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 12: the fans that came out that night told you, Okay, 732 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 12: they are absolutely fired up about what he's done over 733 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 12: the last year or so in Tampa Bay. On the 734 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 12: offensive side. He will call plays, he said that in 735 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 12: this press conference. Okay, so that's something that didn't happen. 736 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 12: There was some question marks about who was calling the 737 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 12: plays the last couple of years. Clear communication has been 738 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 12: a real point I think in the conversations we've had 739 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 12: with Liam Cohen through all facets of the organization to 740 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 12: the GM side and now to the executive vice president 741 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 12: of football upside. With Boselli coming in in that role, 742 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 12: it'll be a three man front, for lack of a 743 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 12: better term, in determining the future of this organization and Liam's. 744 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 12: I think Liam is the figurehead of that. I don't 745 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 12: think there's any mistake. This is Liam Cohen's organization. Now. 746 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 12: Will he have the final say veto power and picks 747 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 12: and all that, I don't know. I mean it'll be 748 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 12: a collective pick. They all say that. We'll see how 749 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 12: it really winds up. But so far, the saying the 750 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 12: right things and communication just at times felt like it 751 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 12: was lacking around here the last couple of years, between 752 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 12: scouting personnel and coaching and players. 753 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 2: I thought it was the best job available. I love Lawrence, 754 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 2: I love the talent. To me, I look at the 755 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: I think of the division. I think, obviously Houston's is 756 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 2: something you're gonna have to deal with. But to me, 757 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 2: it seems like the best job and it just seems 758 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 2: like putting it all together. What role with will Biselli 759 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 2: have in all of that? 760 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 12: Yeah, he's officially the executive vice president of football operation. 761 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 12: So I kind of liken it to a communist country, 762 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 12: the minister of culture. That's probably a good way to describe, 763 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 12: like what he would be. What is a Jaguar? Like? 764 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 3: Who are the Jaguars? 765 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 12: And I think that's kind of his I don't know 766 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 12: if at this top priority, but it's a big piece 767 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 12: of what he'll do every single day. And he'll he'll 768 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 12: be over all the things around the football team, travel, logistics, 769 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 12: food and beverage under in the football building, athletic training staff. 770 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 12: I mean, everything else besides coaching and scouting is under Boselli, 771 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 12: so including football communications as well. So I think he 772 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 12: wants to have a you know, have a collective message. 773 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 12: You know, messaging will be big for him because the 774 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 12: fans deserve that. They haven't had a lot of that, 775 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 12: a lot of direction of what the Jaguars actually should 776 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 12: be and are as an organization, And no better guy 777 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 12: than Basselli to do it, who obviously was the first round, 778 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 12: our first overall pick here back in nineteen ninety five 779 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 12: in the first year, first draft pick in the franchise history. 780 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 12: And I came back at a certain point after the 781 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 12: debacle in Houston where he was in the expansion draft 782 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 12: and didn't play with a shoulder injury, came back. It 783 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 12: actually helped keep this team in Jacksonville. He was a 784 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 12: big piece of what they did in the marketing and 785 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 12: the ticketing sales in those two thousands seasons, late two 786 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 12: thousands especially, So he has a soft place in a 787 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 12: lot of people's hearts here in Jacksonville and of course 788 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 12: now in the Hall of Fame, so contacts all over 789 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 12: the league. A good guy to kind of be the 790 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 12: visionary type for this organization. 791 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 3: All right, fifth overall draft pick four in the top 792 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 3: ninety two fourths, two thirds, some nice draft capital, a 793 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 3: nice little tap situation for you as well, to put 794 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 3: you right in the middle of the league. What's the 795 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 3: number one position this team needs to address. 796 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 12: It's a good one, and I think it's honestly. They've 797 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 12: got some aging interior offensive lineman. You know, Mitch Morris 798 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 12: has been around for eleven years. Brandon Sheriff the right guard, 799 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 12: same thing, and there aren't really many developmental guys behind them. 800 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 12: They had a guy who really hanged up his knee 801 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 12: last year all three ligaments, who was supposedly gonna be 802 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 12: that guy in Cooper Hodges, but there's no telling what 803 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 12: his situation is and who he's gonna be ready for 804 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 12: camp or any of that. So that was a guy 805 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 12: they were leading on a lot. He finally had cracked 806 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 12: the starting lineup and it just didn't you know, got 807 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 12: in a goal line situation, got twisted up. So they 808 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 12: need to figure that out. And I think you could 809 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 12: probably do that in the later rounds. Get some mid 810 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 12: middle rounds. You know, get some big, nasty, beefy offensive 811 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 12: lineman on the interior that you can, for lack of 812 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 12: a better term, jars on the shelf. Right, you're developing 813 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 12: a guy for later. You know, it may not be 814 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 12: this season. We'll see what those starting guys do. But 815 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 12: now to go on the other side of the ball, 816 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 12: I think it's interior defensive line. The offensive line is 817 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 12: Baseli always says, which an offensive lineman sets the tone 818 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 12: for the whole team. However, if you don't have consistency 819 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 12: in the middle of that D line, people are gonna 820 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 12: run right at you. And they had issues in the 821 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 12: middle of the defense all the way from the front 822 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 12: to the back. Defensive tackle play was inconsistent. Linebacker play 823 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 12: was all over the map. The safeties were awful, So 824 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 12: they've got to figure out the middle of this defense. 825 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 12: But I think it begins upfront. So that's why I think, 826 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 12: I mean defensive tackle I think is truly in play 827 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 12: there at number five. 828 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 2: Well, that should be money music to their ears because 829 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 2: it's a great D tackle draft and and they'll they'll 830 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 2: be able to fill those spots. There aren't many of 831 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 2: them need to be. It's a lot of brightness heading 832 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 2: in that organization's future. It seems like from this this perspective, JP, 833 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time and sharing us 834 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,720 Speaker 2: a little bit of your knowledge today. 835 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 12: You got it, guys, any time man great to visit 836 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 12: with you. 837 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 3: I hope you will. There. 838 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 2: It is JP Shadwick, Jacksonville Jaguars Senior reporter and editor. 839 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 2: He was on the Twisted Outline percented by Twisted T 840 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: hard iced T, official sponsor of your Cleveland Browns, Keep 841 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 2: it Twisted, Cleveland. This was the best gig out there. 842 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 3: Yep, it just was. 843 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 2: If I believe in Lawrence the weapons, you know, he 844 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 2: talked about de tackle at five, so you can solve 845 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 2: that right away. Maybe Graham from Michigan goes into that spot. 846 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 2: They if they want to let these one of these 847 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 2: running backs walk, this is a loaded running back draft 848 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 2: if they want to do that. No, there's they're in 849 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 2: a good Spot's this is It's weird when you look 850 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 2: at Lawrence. I pulled this up. I was curious what 851 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 2: his last couple of years have been. He was this 852 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 2: year in the ten starts, just a sixty percent passer, 853 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 2: which I just would not have had. He was sixty 854 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 2: point six eleven touchdown, seven picks. The year before that 855 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 2: he was sixty six percent four twenty one and fourteen. 856 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: Really his second year he was great, sixty six forty 857 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 2: one thirteen twenty five touchdowns, eight picks. But I just 858 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: I don't think that kid forgot how to play quarterback. 859 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 2: I just think he's been in a lot of tough spots. 860 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 2: And to me, I look at this and I go, jeez, 861 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,280 Speaker 2: that's a pretty good opportunity to be in this spot. 862 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it comes down to being coached up. Yeah, I 863 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 3: think that's maybe maybe Cohen's that guy. 864 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. I mean this is his third coach. Yeah, 865 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 2: and this one needs to hit. This was a big 866 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 2: one for them, obviously, Like Liam Cohen enough to the 867 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: stand point of they were willing to move off of 868 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 2: Trent bal Key after that became a problem. So it's 869 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 2: Liam Cohen's organization with Trevor Lawrence, Tony Biselli, and that's 870 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 2: what they'll be still was their color analysts. 871 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 3: They probably could their color analysts. 872 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 2: Oh, Jeff Lockman, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I 873 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 2: think a lot of people down there, certainly. I was 874 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 2: thinking about this with Paselli because you said he was 875 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 2: going to do the food and all of that stuff, 876 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 2: like like Minister of culture or whatever. Like I wonder 877 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 2: if they would go back to that look that they 878 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 2: had when he came up, because that was a that's 879 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 2: a popular look down there with those with the fans. 880 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 3: So we'll see. 881 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 2: We'll continue our look around the league as the weeks 882 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 2: go on, leading up to the Combine and eventually into 883 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 2: free agency. Coming up next, uh, you'll hear from Jerry 884 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 2: Judy on Tommy Reese's new offensive Corn will have some 885 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 2: of those quotes for you. Also Joe Botonio on what 886 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 2: his off season duties could look like. You listen to 887 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown's Daily were presented by bally Bett, official sports 888 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 2: betting partner. 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That's got to be one of the biggest 898 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 2: tours of the summer. 899 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 3: That I can remember coming to the stadium. 900 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 2: Today's with all those names. 901 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's pretty since Taylor Swift came here. 902 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 3: Like I get Billy Joel and Rod Stewart one night, 903 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 3: even though Billy and Rod are coming to pay Course 904 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 3: Stadium in Cincinnati now, so maybe now it's yep, Yeah, 905 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 3: it's more than one night. You know. We've had some 906 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,280 Speaker 3: big shows, but I don't know if there's one bigger. 907 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 2: I think the time for tickets, yeah, the timeliness, Like 908 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 2: I don't know the country music scene, I don't know 909 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 2: modern music, like I don't. I don't know, and I 910 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 2: think it's a big deal. And I think this the 911 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 2: Ella Langley. Didn't she just have a number one song 912 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 2: in the country. 913 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 5: I have no idea. 914 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 3: Pretty sure she did. 915 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 2: I think I have that, Like, doesn't she have like 916 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 2: a duet? 917 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got college football country music. Bo hold on 918 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 3: all I all I can tell you is this. So 919 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 3: we had the opportunity to get a little. 920 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,399 Speaker 2: Pre like she's got a little bit of an old 921 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 2: school Linda Ronstadt vibe to her. But the who's out there? Yeah, 922 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 2: c m a bo I can drop you. Yeah, the 923 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 2: what's the name of this song? You look like you 924 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 2: love me? 925 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 926 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 6: Yeah? 927 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 928 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 2: The duet? 929 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 3: Look at this guy there you go big on TikTok. 930 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 3: Yeah that means someone. Yeah, where did you get it from? 931 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 2: I don't know where. Oh you know what? She had 932 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 2: a song. She had a song in the final season 933 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 2: of Yellowstone. Oh really Yeah, And that's how I became 934 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 2: awarever So, I. 935 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 3: Mean, yeah, yeah, g Man gets so we we have 936 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 3: the opportunity for the little pre sale. G Man's all excited. 937 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 3: G Man's gonna blow a paychecker and I did allegedly 938 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 3: allegedly you were sick for a week, so that. 939 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 2: Get like to the front of the line. 940 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 3: Is an employee, hold on, so we get this pre 941 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 3: sale access pre sale blah blah blah. Great g man 942 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 3: hops on. Jordan and I are in here working. Yeah, 943 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, I got it. Like, let's watch this 944 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 3: because you couldn't You couldn't pick your seat until you 945 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 3: actually it was your turn to pick. Okay, you know. 946 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 3: The Q pops up and he's number eleven hundred and 947 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:12,240 Speaker 3: thirty eight on a pre sale. He's hyperventally. I'm like, relax, 948 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 3: I've seen these. It's just getting the whole system up 949 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 3: and running. Yeah, it'll go quick. It did. Think it 950 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 3: was like five minutes. 951 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 9: Took like three minutes. 952 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but it was long. I was like, man, 953 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 3: if it gets like three, if it gets to like ten, 954 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 3: what if he doesn't get tickets? Oh no, we got 955 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 3: ticket tickets. 956 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 2: Did you get how'd you? How you see? 957 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 3: It's good? 958 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 9: Seats were yeah, lower bowl, right in the aisle. 959 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 2: Perfect for a guy like you. You thrive right near 960 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:39,280 Speaker 2: the aisle. 961 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 10: My wife and I were like ten thousand in line 962 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 10: when we try to get tickets, but then was once 963 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 10: we got up we realized we couldn't afford that paycheck. 964 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 3: Kids will do that, keV, that'll have me. Kids will 965 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 3: do that. 966 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 2: That's gonna happen. Yeah, this I I don't. I could 967 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 2: not tell you one song Morgan Wallen sings, but I 968 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 2: guess my hunches I've heard a dozen. 969 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably right. Absolutely, he is enormously popular. I think 970 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 3: he sold out. Didn't he sold us the shoe? 971 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 2: He does? 972 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 3: He did. 973 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 2: I think he did the Buckeye Country Fest thing they 974 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,799 Speaker 2: do with the horseshoe, but it was when you do that. 975 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,439 Speaker 11: Yes, I saw him in at Lucas Oil. He sold 976 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 11: out Lucas Oil, all right. 977 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 2: So he's Is he a modern modern day Garth Brooks 978 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 2: that type of popular? 979 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 3: I don't know. 980 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 9: You'd have to ask my father that huge. 981 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 10: My wife would not let you put him in the 982 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 10: same stratus for here as Garth Brooks. 983 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 3: Garth would. 984 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I think at one point Garth was was 985 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 2: the number one selling artist ever period there was no 986 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 2: albums more albums. Ever, he was used to a thing 987 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 2: where he would go to a town and he would 988 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 2: play in the concerts until as long as they were 989 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 2: tickets sold. So he would come to like billings Montana 990 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 2: and he would sell out. He'd do like seven days 991 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 2: worth of shows as long as they were buying tickets. 992 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 2: It's incredible. Yeah, yeah, he was a showman. 993 00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. 994 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 2: I Ry Judy with some comments on the state of 995 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 2: the Browns. This is from Brown Zone on new offensive 996 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,399 Speaker 2: coordinator Tommy Reese. Reese is a smart guy that knows 997 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 2: how to get his playmakers the ball. Judy said, it's 998 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 2: gonna be very exciting to have him call plays. They 999 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 2: He would obviously have some first hand experience with Tommy 1000 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 2: our secondhand rather from his former coach Nick Saban, have 1001 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 2: a pretty good feel about what Tommy's all about. Jerry 1002 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 2: had this to say at the quarterback position, I'm just 1003 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 2: hoping for somebody at quarterback that's consistent, you know, and 1004 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 2: somebody that's a franchise quarterback for our team. That's really 1005 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 2: all we need you and be both brother. 1006 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that's really all we need. 1007 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 2: It's all you need. It's funny like the perception that 1008 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 2: that and there are a lot of depth things that 1009 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 2: need to be filled, but yeah, get the quarterback and 1010 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 2: the rest of it's pretty easy. Joel Botonio also had 1011 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 2: some comments down at the Pro Bowl. On his potential 1012 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 2: for retirement this offseason, Joel said, I'm saying my off 1013 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 2: season officially starts now. So now I'll take a few 1014 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,720 Speaker 2: weeks and kind of see where we're at from here. 1015 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 2: But I got some good family time in and stuff, 1016 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 2: and this week was fun to be around the guys. 1017 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 2: But still am going to take a few weeks and 1018 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 2: just kind of see where we're at. I believe that 1019 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 2: is essentially a verbal no comment. 1020 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, Joe did. 1021 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 5: It. 1022 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 3: Wasn't a Joe that told us. 1023 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:12,879 Speaker 2: The longer it. 1024 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 3: Goes, the better chance he's back. Yeah, as he thinks 1025 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,359 Speaker 3: about it and puts it all together. Yeah, I think 1026 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 3: there's a better chance that he's back. 1027 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 2: I think that makes sense as well. Yeah, all right, 1028 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 2: Bubba vent Tron, I'm going to join us live in studio, 1029 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,879 Speaker 2: coming up next, second hour of the program, coming up next. 1030 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 2: You listened to Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bete 1031 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 2: official sportspinning partner, Cleveland Browns on a fifty ESPN, Cleveland. 1032 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally bett An, official sports 1033 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns on eight to fifty 1034 00:49:48,800 --> 00:50:01,720 Speaker 1: esp and Cleveland. 1035 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 2: All Right, second hour of the program. If a car 1036 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 2: trucker motors I cool accident cause you injury, called their 1037 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 2: injury lawyers that went inerdrel Ohio for a free case review. 1038 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 2: Alconel is a proud partner of your Cleveland Browns probably 1039 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 2: should be joined in studio. Brown Special Teams Coordinator Bubba 1040 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 2: ben Trone freshop being the head coach at the Senior 1041 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 2: Bowl down in Mobile. I know you have been there 1042 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 2: a lot. What was this experience like for you and 1043 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,800 Speaker 2: how much did you enjoy the opportunity to be the 1044 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 2: big dog and the run the whole operation. 1045 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 13: It was a great experience. I had a tremendous staff. 1046 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 13: I was able to bring Jacqueline robertson with me from 1047 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 13: the Browns. She did a heck of a job as 1048 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 13: my assistant down there. Really great communicator with with the staff. 1049 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 13: The staff that I worked with is incredible from top 1050 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 13: to bottom. It was awesome to be able to see 1051 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 13: these players interact with each other, take the information from 1052 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,240 Speaker 13: the meetings to the field, and then see them interact 1053 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 13: and process all that information and then obviously see them 1054 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 13: play in in a setting like that. 1055 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 3: So it was it was awesome. 1056 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 2: Can you take us take us through the week, all right, 1057 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 2: you'd land, you knew what your team was going to be, 1058 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 2: You'd land, and then it's you got a bunch of 1059 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 2: jobs here, right, Like we got to put them through 1060 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 2: stuff so we can see what they are as prospects. Inevitably, 1061 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 2: you got to play a game, so you got to 1062 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 2: get installed. And I'm sure it's all pretty vanilla, but 1063 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 2: at the same time, like you got a week to 1064 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 2: put stuff in, take us through kind of like what 1065 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 2: that week is like, it was good. 1066 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 13: So initially when I first found out that I had 1067 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 13: the position and I knew who my staff was going 1068 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 13: to be, reached out to my staff and the first 1069 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 13: thing we wanted to do is we wanted to compile 1070 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 13: the playbook. We want to put the playbooks together and 1071 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 13: be able to push those out to the players. Now, 1072 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 13: the teams were separated after the staffs were made, so 1073 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 13: we didn't know initially who who was on our team. 1074 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 13: Once we knew the players that were on our team, 1075 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 13: we identified those players. We pushed the playbooks out to 1076 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 13: them electronically, so they had those playbooks by like Tuesday 1077 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 13: or Wednesday prior to arriving at Mobile on Sunday. So 1078 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 13: they had the playoffs for a few days in advance, 1079 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 13: so that was helpful. So the coaches get in on Saturday, 1080 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 13: the players arrive throughout the day. On Sunday, we ended 1081 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 13: up having like a meet and greet at the like 1082 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 13: the I guess you would call it like the cafeteria 1083 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 13: area at the hotel. We have a team meeting that night, 1084 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 13: kind of just introduce my staff and I And really 1085 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 13: what I wanted to do from the jump was I 1086 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 13: wanted to make it feel like a team. I didn't 1087 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 13: want to make it feel like an All Star game 1088 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 13: because ultimately, like our message throughout the week was we 1089 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 13: were trying to win, not just the game, but we 1090 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 13: were trying to win every rep, every meeting, everything that 1091 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,439 Speaker 13: goes into winning. And I wanted our team to feel 1092 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 13: as close as we could right away. So I think 1093 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 13: that we were able to accomplish that. So we have 1094 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 13: the team meeting on Sunday, then they break off to 1095 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,320 Speaker 13: offense and defense. We have another team meeting on Monday, 1096 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,800 Speaker 13: and then they broke it off to offense and defense 1097 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,399 Speaker 13: along with a lot of other things on Monday. By 1098 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 13: Tuesday we had so we had the second practice, so 1099 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 13: we had morning meetings. 1100 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 5: Normally, in a typical week, you. 1101 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 13: Have obviously you have morning meetings where you're installing, you 1102 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,360 Speaker 13: have practice, and then you have post practice meetings for 1103 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 13: the corrections. 1104 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 2: Down Amobile, we only had the players. 1105 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 13: One time a day for meetings, so we had our 1106 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,240 Speaker 13: meetings in the morning. The national team had their meetings 1107 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 13: in the afternoon, so we installed in the morning. Then 1108 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,359 Speaker 13: we would go to practice, and then the coaches would 1109 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 13: come back watch the film, prep their meetings for the 1110 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 13: next day, and then we would have the players the 1111 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 13: next morning where you would have to hit corrections and 1112 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 13: install and then go to practice. 1113 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:41,320 Speaker 2: You think about from a prospects perspective, you put years 1114 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,320 Speaker 2: of your life on tape, and then that's done, and 1115 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 2: now you're going to go prepare for the NFL. So 1116 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 2: you have your resume, which is your tape, but now 1117 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,880 Speaker 2: you have Senior Bowl, Combine, pro day, all of that. 1118 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 2: As from your perspective as an evaluator of talent, how 1119 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,359 Speaker 2: much what percentage are all of those? Obviously, to make 1120 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 2: one big picture of a prospect, how much of it 1121 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 2: is the tape resume? How much of it is the 1122 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 2: hands on experience that you got down in Mobile, which 1123 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 2: is incredible for a team like us. It's got a 1124 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 2: lot of picks that we have, you got hands on, 1125 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 2: and how much is what happens between now and the draft? 1126 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 2: How do you break that kind of down? 1127 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 13: To me? Ultimately, the most important evaluation tool is your tape. 1128 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, is your tape. 1129 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 13: I think that the combine, the combine obviously confirms what 1130 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 13: you're seeing on the film most times. 1131 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 5: And I think that a Senior Bowl. 1132 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 13: Is an extremely you know, incredible resource for scouts, coaches, 1133 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 13: gms to be able to see. Okay, you're seeing football 1134 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 13: with players going against the best players in the country 1135 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 13: against each other in a setting where everything is pretty 1136 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 13: generic and vanilla. You get to see different body types 1137 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,240 Speaker 13: go against different body types, different skill sets against different 1138 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 13: skill sets. The way that we structured practices we want 1139 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 13: we wanted to give the scouts and the general managers 1140 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 13: what they wanted to see a lot of times, like 1141 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 13: they want to see those guys in a one on 1142 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 13: one setting, like receivers against UH receivers against DB's tight 1143 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 13: ends against safeties, and a lot of times like those 1144 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 13: pass rush one on ones are very valuable because now 1145 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,720 Speaker 13: you can see, like I said, different skill sets against 1146 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,359 Speaker 13: different body types in that one on one setting where 1147 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,720 Speaker 13: you can really see those quote traits come to fruition 1148 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 13: and see them like like truly like be able to 1149 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,879 Speaker 13: put their traits, you know, into play. 1150 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 2: Your position as head coach, I would assume allowed you 1151 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,879 Speaker 2: the opportunity to pair a troop in on every everything. Yeah, 1152 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 2: so you were able to get kind of first hand 1153 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 2: knowledge of all the position groups. 1154 00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 3: Yep. 1155 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 2: How valuable was that for you? And then you come 1156 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 2: back here, you do a debrief whatever, like to be 1157 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 2: able to sit you can vouch for guys now personally 1158 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:07,799 Speaker 2: it was great. 1159 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 13: I was able to So each day I would start 1160 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 13: with a fifteen minute team meeting where you're really hitting 1161 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 13: the goals of what you're trying to get accomplished that day, 1162 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,320 Speaker 13: some corrections from the previous day, and then things we 1163 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 13: want to improve on obviously going into the practice. And 1164 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 13: after that we would separate. Most times we would go 1165 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 13: od and they would just go into their position groups. 1166 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 13: So during that time that was like an hour and 1167 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 13: a half, I would be able to get to each 1168 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 13: position group that That was a very valuable thing for 1169 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,920 Speaker 13: me as the head coach was I was able to 1170 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 13: have my hand in all of those meetings and be 1171 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 13: able to observe listen. Also it helped me evaluate the 1172 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 13: coaches on the staff in upcoming coaches and see their 1173 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 13: development throughout the week. But it was able to It 1174 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 13: was awesome because you could now see, Okay, they're being 1175 00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 13: taught this. You know, how well did they take what 1176 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 13: they're being taught to the field? You know, we had 1177 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,439 Speaker 13: a number of a number of instances where we had 1178 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 13: a correction from the first day be applied and made 1179 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 13: right the second day. Specifically, there was like a route 1180 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 13: detail from a receiver from Arkansas that he like he 1181 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 13: kind of rushed his route too much and if he 1182 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 13: would have just pushed the stem a little bit more, 1183 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 13: he would have had the opportunity to have a two 1184 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 13: way go. He made the correction the second day and 1185 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 13: he scored. 1186 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 2: In a one on one, which is pretty cool. 1187 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 3: It's awesome. Yeah, it correct direct application. Yeah. 1188 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 12: Yeah. 1189 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 2: Obviously one of the when you go to a Senior Bowl, 1190 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 2: and really any time in the round the draft, it 1191 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 2: comes to the quarterbacks. Mil Row and Dart were the 1192 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 2: more highly regarded, more known products that were down there. 1193 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 2: Just the quarterback position in general and what they are 1194 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 2: thrown into that week at the Senior Bowl. What was 1195 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 2: your impression of the guys you saw down there and 1196 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 2: then just kind of what the week is like for 1197 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 2: them because most of the eyes are going to be 1198 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 2: on them. 1199 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 13: Yeah, I enjoyed working with all four of those guys. 1200 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 13: It was you know, Riley, Leonard, Jackson, Dart Melrow and 1201 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 13: then Seth then again from Memphis. 1202 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 5: All four of those guys. 1203 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 13: Did a good job. And look, I would say this, 1204 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 13: it's not easy to go down there as a quarterback obviously, 1205 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 13: and with this so at night, these guys go through 1206 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 13: like they get go through these interviews at night with 1207 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 13: all the teams. 1208 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 5: A lot of times in those interviews, they're some. 1209 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 13: Teams are like giving them like a mini install. So 1210 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 13: now you have your minds polluted with all this information 1211 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 13: we're trying. We're trying to install what we're doing at 1212 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 13: the game, So that can that can be hard at times. 1213 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 13: And then also now you're going you're throwing two guys 1214 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 13: that you've never thrown to before, right, you're taking snaps 1215 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 13: from nobody you've ever taken a snap before. Obviously, some 1216 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 13: of those guys work more out like like Jackson and 1217 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 13: Seth worked more out of the gun in college than 1218 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 13: they did under center, So that was an issue the 1219 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 13: first day is getting the quarterback center exchange on point. 1220 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:54,439 Speaker 13: So like just the unfamiliarity with you know, those types 1221 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 13: of things and having those really like guys that you're 1222 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 13: not familiar with. And you could see the improvement from 1223 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 13: day today and then obviously into the game we had 1224 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 13: some decent production. 1225 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,919 Speaker 2: Will you as long as you live, forget how that ended. 1226 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 2: And just so our just so our audience knows. So 1227 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 2: Seth hann again, your team won, which you said we're 1228 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 2: gonna win the week. What you did? You won the 1229 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:15,919 Speaker 2: game and you won the week, no shot. 1230 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 13: So our decordinator, alright, the decordinator we are going against 1231 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 13: was our defensive line coach and he was talking some 1232 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 13: noise against me, uh pre game to Tom Pellisero. So 1233 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 13: I had to come back and we had to finish 1234 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 13: it the right way. 1235 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 2: Well you did so, Seth Hannigan hits a TCU receiver 1236 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 2: by the name of Jack Beck. Beck was named the 1237 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,439 Speaker 2: MVP of the game. Bet Betch sorry Bech was named 1238 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 2: the MVP of the game. His brother was one of 1239 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 2: those who was killed in the New Orleans attack around 1240 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 2: the Sugar Bowl. That's it was tough. Yeah, that's a lot. 1241 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 2: That's a lot. 1242 00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 13: And so for the game, uh, the Senior Bowl did 1243 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 13: a really good job of tributing his brother at the game. 1244 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 13: Everybody in the game were So his brother played football 1245 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,400 Speaker 13: at Princeton. His name was Tiger war number seven. So 1246 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 13: we had a seven number seven d Kyle like with 1247 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 13: a tiger print threw it on the back of their helmets. 1248 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 13: I thought that was it was a really nice job 1249 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 13: by them. The kid was first off, the kid is 1250 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 13: a stand up kid, like, incredible person, incredible like teammate, 1251 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 13: great leadership, tough, you know, just just the epitome of 1252 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 13: what you would want in a football player. And then 1253 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 13: having to go through that and lose your brother only 1254 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,200 Speaker 13: a few weeks prior to that, and the way that 1255 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 13: the game ended. So the game ended, so we had 1256 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 13: the ball, it's fourth and goal, there's seven seconds left. 1257 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 13: His brother wore number seven, which was kind of crazy, 1258 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 13: and he ends up catching the game winning touchdown. It 1259 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 13: was it was a special moment to see and it 1260 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 13: was cool to see his parents, Uh, you know, going 1261 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 13: going at him after the game. 1262 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,800 Speaker 2: And that's higher power stuff there. Yeah, that's a lot 1263 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 2: that's a lot going on that That was absolutely I did. 1264 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 2: I didn't want to have you had a chance to 1265 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 2: talk to you since the seam was over. I did 1266 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 2: want We talked a lot about the last spring, about 1267 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 2: the new kickoff rules and all of that. He went 1268 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 2: through a full year of it. What worked, what didn't? 1269 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 5: Did you like it? I did like it. 1270 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 13: I think that there was definitely a lot of a 1271 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,960 Speaker 13: trial and air period to the first half of the season. 1272 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 13: We made some adjustments, We had some decent production from 1273 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 13: about the mid season point on. You know, there's there's 1274 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 13: a lot of things we're gonna do different on that unit, 1275 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 13: a lot of things we're going to teach different. We're 1276 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 13: going to go back and do a deep dive and 1277 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 13: study into the things that worked. Be a little bit more, 1278 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 13: I would say, going to use more different types of 1279 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 13: blocking techniques and and things that are I think are 1280 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,120 Speaker 13: going to help us be able to have, you know, 1281 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 13: a productive, productive play. 1282 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 2: It's one of the things you weren't going to until 1283 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 2: you did it, you know what I mean, Like, we 1284 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 2: can practice at all we want out here until you 1285 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 2: see it played in a game, and then everyone will 1286 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 2: adjust to that going forward. Great seeing you, Thank you, 1287 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 2: thanks for stopping by, No problem. Special teams coordinator Bubba 1288 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 2: Ventrone in studio with us and head coach of the 1289 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 2: winning team. 1290 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 5: The American Team. 1291 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 2: Unlike Jock, hate to see it. Hate to see it 1292 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 2: than seeing you body as always, Bubbaventrone here in studio. 1293 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 2: Coming up next we will go around the sports world 1294 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 2: a lot of Super Bowl availability. Jamis Winston, who is 1295 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 2: one of the stars of this season, hadn't been himself 1296 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 2: a week down there. We'll have that for you coming 1297 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 2: up next as well. 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Uh, kind 1319 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:52,840 Speaker 2: of a two part thing. 1320 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 3: Yes, they're the nighttime crazy Session the circus. 1321 01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 2: This was also the State of the State from Roger Goodell, 1322 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,120 Speaker 2: his annual State of the State of the Union address 1323 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 2: where he meets with the national media and they discuss 1324 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 2: all things National Football League. One of the things that 1325 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 2: I think I'm most keV I want to start with 1326 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,960 Speaker 2: the one from Tom Brady because something we've talked about 1327 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 2: a long time in terms of the advantage that he 1328 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 2: has in the fact that he is allowed to call 1329 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 2: games while all at the same time be an owner 1330 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 2: of the Las Vegas Raiders. So let's start with Goodell. 1331 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 2: He was asked if Tom Brady has an unfair advantage 1332 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,480 Speaker 2: as a part time owner, as a part owner and 1333 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:34,200 Speaker 2: a broadcaster. 1334 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:35,960 Speaker 14: Well, I'm not sure how he would have been in 1335 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 14: that case. But let me start with the fact that 1336 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,840 Speaker 14: everybody in the National Football League, owner to personnel, still 1337 01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 14: subject to tampering rules and other policy. They're responsible for 1338 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,920 Speaker 14: that conduct and they're all held accountable for that in 1339 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,520 Speaker 14: the case of this actual transition, as you know, we 1340 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 14: had special rules that were designed for this, for some 1341 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 14: of the concerns that some of the ownership had on this, 1342 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 14: and to make sure as we learned a little bit 1343 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 14: more about this, where could there possibly be any kind 1344 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 14: of conflicts. That's something that you know, we'll obviously consider 1345 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,400 Speaker 14: in the offseason and think about that. Should that policy 1346 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 14: be adjusted, said, something be added or subtracted. But right 1347 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:29,200 Speaker 14: now that Tom has been incredibly cooperative. He calls frequently 1348 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 14: about it and says, am I doing okay? And I 1349 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 14: think he's serious about making sure that he separates these 1350 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,960 Speaker 14: two and he doesn't put the league or anyone in 1351 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 14: a position of conflict. 1352 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 2: I think it's very interesting what he said right there 1353 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 2: about him calling Goodell frequently and saying, am I doing okay. 1354 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 2: Tom Brady, despite all his accomplishments, still loves being coached. 1355 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still. 1356 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 2: Looking over his shoulder, like is this work am I 1357 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 2: okay with this? 1358 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would also say this like it's going 1359 01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,800 Speaker 3: to reach a point where we're already you're gonna yeah, 1360 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,439 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to make a decision. I mean, he's 1361 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 3: he's hiring people, he's hiring personnel people, he's hiring coaches. 1362 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 3: Like there has to be a conflict here. 1363 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 2: There is, and I think we've already crossed it. I 1364 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 2: think that there was an assumption that what Brady would 1365 01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:26,280 Speaker 2: do with the Raiders is be kind of a silid owner. 1366 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 2: You know, I remember Stephen Ross did this down in Miami, 1367 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 2: Like you brought the Williams sisters on and Gloria Stefan, 1368 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:38,480 Speaker 2: Jennifer Lopez and that's right, the Congo baby. Uh, he'd 1369 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 2: bring all those folks like Jimmy Buffett, he'd bring they 1370 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 2: were all minority owners. I think I think probably what 1371 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 2: most people thought is that Tom Brady would be like, Okay, 1372 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,520 Speaker 2: he's a part owner of the in a way that 1373 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,680 Speaker 2: Miles is a part owner of the Calves, right, Like 1374 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 2: you get a tiny percentage and you show up at 1375 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:55,800 Speaker 2: games and wave and that's it. But the reality reality 1376 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 2: is he is the according to all the reporting, the 1377 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,040 Speaker 2: active owner for the Las Vegas Raiders when it came 1378 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 2: to hiring coaches, he's the one. 1379 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's supposed to have input on their quarterback. 1380 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, So that is not I don't think what 1381 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 2: the owners anticipated what his role would be. And so 1382 01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,160 Speaker 2: I think that's the thing that's tricky, and I think 1383 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,720 Speaker 2: we've already crossed the rubicon of there's no reason for 1384 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,439 Speaker 2: him to do both other than the three hundred million 1385 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 2: reasons that Fox is paying. 1386 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 3: Him to do it. Beyond that, you know, he's not 1387 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,840 Speaker 3: talking away from that until someone makes him. 1388 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, I wouldn't think so. I wouldn't think so. 1389 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,320 Speaker 2: So my hunch is that this would be a one 1390 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 2: in one year and done for him. On the Fox booth, 1391 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 2: Dell was also asked about moving the chains away and 1392 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,760 Speaker 2: towards technology to measure first down. Zee and I have 1393 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,160 Speaker 2: talked about this a lot. Let's hear from Roger on 1394 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 2: that we have. 1395 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 14: We tested, i think in the preseason this past year, 1396 01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:01,800 Speaker 14: on being able to use that technology. It is complicated, obviously, 1397 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 14: you have a lot of humanity that interferes potentially with 1398 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 14: some of that, at least on from a camera angle standpoint. 1399 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 14: But you you know, you also have a shape of 1400 01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 14: the ball that is different, and it's about where the 1401 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 14: ball is, not where the individual is necessarily, so their 1402 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,800 Speaker 14: combination of factors are there. But I do think that 1403 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,280 Speaker 14: technology will exist sometimes in the future. We're continuing a 1404 01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 14: lot with our partners is how to advance that as 1405 01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,479 Speaker 14: quickly as possible so we can get to that place. 1406 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,479 Speaker 2: So the big thing you hear a lot of people 1407 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 2: talk about, like the tennis situation, but the chip isn't 1408 01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,080 Speaker 2: in the ball, it's on the court. Yeah, so that's 1409 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,840 Speaker 2: a much smaller surface area to have covered. I mean, 1410 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 2: you essentially just need the lines covered and that's about it. 1411 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,960 Speaker 2: On tennis versus a football field, which is huge. Ze 1412 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 2: and I had the ball out the other day and 1413 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,200 Speaker 2: we were going, other it is, and you need a 1414 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 2: chip in each end. You need a chip, you know, 1415 01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,120 Speaker 2: kind of in the girth of the ball, and that's 1416 01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,439 Speaker 2: the only way you need to to be to see 1417 01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,599 Speaker 2: kind of where it is. I still think it's better 1418 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:06,080 Speaker 2: than some old guy running in and from thirty yards 1419 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,200 Speaker 2: away and go, oh it's it's here. Oh no, this 1420 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:12,559 Speaker 2: is like chap. They're all over the map and they 1421 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,880 Speaker 2: split the difference. So I got priority you do, like, 1422 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,200 Speaker 2: it's got to be better than that. It can't be 1423 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,719 Speaker 2: worse than what we're doing, which is a chain link 1424 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,320 Speaker 2: with two sticks on it and human beings running it 1425 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 2: versus this is exactly ten yards. So it's just too 1426 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 2: important to not get right. And you know we've railed 1427 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,759 Speaker 2: on that for years, the idea of a sky judge, 1428 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,240 Speaker 2: and there's enough technology. 1429 01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,400 Speaker 3: I was going to say, let's just start with getting 1430 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 3: it like the Eye in the sky for every play. 1431 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, that seems so easy to be able 1432 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:40,840 Speaker 2: to do it. 1433 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 3: They just won't do it. 1434 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 2: I think it's I think that they don't want to 1435 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,640 Speaker 2: make the referees employees. I think if they made the 1436 01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 2: referees employees, then I think you could do that Eye 1437 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:52,720 Speaker 2: in the sky and they wouldn't be so much worry 1438 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,080 Speaker 2: about it. But I think I think that's probably it. 1439 01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,160 Speaker 2: Like just train them all on the same thing and 1440 01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,719 Speaker 2: just get the calls right. That's that's all anybody wants. 1441 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,040 Speaker 2: There's this game is way too fast, way too chaotic, 1442 01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 2: way too violent to not have to have things left 1443 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,839 Speaker 2: up to chance. Goodell was also asked about the perception 1444 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 2: that the reps favor the Kansas City chiefs. 1445 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 3: Here are his thoughts on that. 1446 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,760 Speaker 14: Well, this sort of reminds me a little bit of 1447 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,840 Speaker 14: the script. Right now, then I write a script, and 1448 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,639 Speaker 14: I have the script for the entire season. 1449 01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:19,080 Speaker 2: Listen. 1450 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,479 Speaker 14: A lot of those theories are things that happen in 1451 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,559 Speaker 14: social media and they get a new life. As you say, 1452 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,479 Speaker 14: I understand, and I think it reflects a lot of 1453 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,840 Speaker 14: the fans passion, and I think it's It also is 1454 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 14: a reminder for us how important officiating is. And I 1455 01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,040 Speaker 14: think the men and women to officiate in the NFL 1456 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,840 Speaker 14: are outstanding. They have the highest possible standards. That's ridiculous 1457 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 14: theory for anyone who might take it seriously. 1458 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:52,120 Speaker 2: Really Yeah, Okay, listen, that was the best reaction, by 1459 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:53,800 Speaker 2: the way, that was me yawning. I'll tell you this, 1460 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 2: My kids. 1461 01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 12: Dead. 1462 01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,040 Speaker 2: The super Bowl logos red and green. What are the 1463 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,559 Speaker 2: color of the two super Bowl teams? Red and green? 1464 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,160 Speaker 3: This is all predetermined, Dad, go to bed. 1465 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:08,639 Speaker 2: Go to bed. 1466 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:10,960 Speaker 4: Kindly leave. 1467 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 2: Gentlemen, they've been a. 1468 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:16,920 Speaker 3: Little off on their on the playoff takes the Mahomes take. 1469 01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,000 Speaker 3: I mean, that's you get written out of the will 1470 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 3: for that. 1471 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just say yesterday afternoon, when it was not 1472 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:29,679 Speaker 2: a fun afternoon the Bishop Household. Oh yeah, you forget 1473 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,800 Speaker 2: here's the thing, like you forget there. You know, kids 1474 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:37,719 Speaker 2: are fans, and you you think about whether it's Luca 1475 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 2: and I know we're gonna get to that or Miles 1476 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:43,960 Speaker 2: requesting all of it, Like they don't wait a second, 1477 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:45,800 Speaker 2: what now we get to deal with this? 1478 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,679 Speaker 3: Yeah you know, yeah, so yeah. 1479 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 2: I the other thing he discussed, I we know the 1480 01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:53,720 Speaker 2: audio of it, But the other thing he discussed was 1481 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:58,559 Speaker 2: the eighteen game schedule and the kind of went that's 1482 01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,320 Speaker 2: not really on the radar now, which I I don't 1483 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 2: think that's the real truth at all. I think that 1484 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,360 Speaker 2: it is on the radar. I think they'd love to 1485 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,839 Speaker 2: get to eighteen. Uh, they'd love to get to President's 1486 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:08,760 Speaker 2: Day and all of those things, and eventually they'll get there. 1487 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,800 Speaker 2: They just got to get on the same page with 1488 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 2: the players on it. 1489 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 3: When the players when the contracts up, that'll be the 1490 01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:18,240 Speaker 3: number one bargaining piece that you know, the players can 1491 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:19,160 Speaker 3: use to their benefit. 1492 01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,640 Speaker 2: Yep, our buddy Jamis Winston's having a ball down at 1493 01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,960 Speaker 2: the at the Super Bowl. So he is working for 1494 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,800 Speaker 2: Fox Sports as a contributor. So this is the thing 1495 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:30,720 Speaker 2: that happens at the Super Bowl. You get just give 1496 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,000 Speaker 2: people Mike and they just barnstorm in on. 1497 01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:33,760 Speaker 10: Uh. 1498 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,479 Speaker 2: These these massive media availabilities. And Jamis was responsible for 1499 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,200 Speaker 2: this for Fox Sports. So he went up to Saquon 1500 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,840 Speaker 2: Barkley and asked him where he should sign this offseason in. 1501 01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,040 Speaker 8: This free agency? Man, I'm a free as Alreddan don't 1502 01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,439 Speaker 8: got no job. Who's to sign me a free agency? 1503 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,960 Speaker 8: I think New York, New Quarbeck right now, New York? 1504 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,479 Speaker 5: Who? Okay, brother, thank you? I give them a call. Yeah, 1505 01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,680 Speaker 5: who do you think I give him a call? 1506 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,880 Speaker 2: I don't have a right now throwing James to the 1507 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:07,599 Speaker 2: Wolves or yeah they're throwing some shade at his former team. Yeah, 1508 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,000 Speaker 2: they don't have a quarterback right now, go ahead. I 1509 01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,960 Speaker 2: loved him. I loved him here. He was fun, fun 1510 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 2: to have. He was the It wasn't the magic of 1511 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,080 Speaker 2: Flacco and all of that, but it was no one's 1512 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,240 Speaker 2: ever going to forget the game against Baltimore, the game 1513 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,240 Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh, and the laughs that he had in a 1514 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:29,320 Speaker 2: season that needed him. Yeah, he provided some really fun moments. 1515 01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:33,479 Speaker 3: I think if you wanted to, you know, you know 1516 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 3: how you know ESPN does money, I football with the 1517 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 3: Manning cast or whatever. Can Fox put together something on 1518 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,479 Speaker 3: an alternate channel and make him like the sideline reporter? 1519 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:44,320 Speaker 8: Do that? 1520 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1521 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:50,639 Speaker 2: Him without a net? Without a net dicey. Uh, here 1522 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,800 Speaker 2: is James with some some other fun at media day. Uh, 1523 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,080 Speaker 2: here's one with Chris Jones. Let's have actually missing this clip? 1524 01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,040 Speaker 2: Do we have this one on your guys side? Look 1525 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,400 Speaker 2: at the g man. G Man was too worried about 1526 01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:04,200 Speaker 2: Sabrina Carpenter. 1527 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,800 Speaker 9: Oh boy, that's on me one second. 1528 01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:09,640 Speaker 2: It's said, hate to see it. I hate to see it, 1529 01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:10,000 Speaker 2: g Man. 1530 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,559 Speaker 3: All Right, I tried. I tried to text earlyer though. 1531 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,639 Speaker 2: All Right, guys, all right, Genn's hustling. The g Man's hustling. 1532 01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:18,960 Speaker 2: He's worried about Morgan Wallen this morning. 1533 01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:20,920 Speaker 5: Look at him. 1534 01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,120 Speaker 2: That's what you get. You were lucky. You were eleven hundred, 1535 01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,280 Speaker 2: g Man. After this, after this, maybe you dropped to 1536 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,680 Speaker 2: twelve hundred on the wait list for Morgan wall in 1537 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:34,400 Speaker 2: twelve thousand. All right, he will effort that you've been 1538 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:35,400 Speaker 2: to Super Bowl media days. 1539 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,439 Speaker 3: I've never been to the super Bowl. It's the one 1540 01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,640 Speaker 3: sporting event I have not been to. I have been 1541 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,000 Speaker 3: to the Daytona five hundred. 1542 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 12: Yeah. 1543 01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 3: I have been to the NCAA Final four. I have 1544 01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,080 Speaker 3: been to Super Bowl. I have been to World Series. 1545 01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,760 Speaker 3: I've been to NBA Finals. I have no interest in 1546 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,639 Speaker 3: the super Bowl. I think unless my team. 1547 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,840 Speaker 2: Is there, there's it's a hell of a spectacle. Well, yeah, 1548 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 2: I think I've been to I've been to five. Yeah, 1549 01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:08,280 Speaker 2: three three Patriot wins, one Ravens win and a Giants win. 1550 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:16,000 Speaker 2: What strikes you about it? It's incredibly corporate, It's incredibly 1551 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:21,000 Speaker 2: sponsor driven. There's crazy things like I remember one of 1552 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:22,840 Speaker 2: the years at the down in New Orleans of the 1553 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,560 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, like Wilson, who's obviously from aid Ohio. Like 1554 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:28,400 Speaker 2: you could go in as a member of the media 1555 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,120 Speaker 2: and they would make you a custom football, like you 1556 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,200 Speaker 2: could put your stamp on it if they wanted, which 1557 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:33,840 Speaker 2: was really cool. 1558 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:36,200 Speaker 3: I remember when New Era. 1559 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:40,560 Speaker 2: First got the NFL cap licensing, every member of the 1560 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,640 Speaker 2: media got a custom fitted. It was all black and 1561 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,720 Speaker 2: it had the NFL logo also in black on it, 1562 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,240 Speaker 2: like a fifty nine to fifty. That was very cool. 1563 01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,519 Speaker 2: There's these all of this. The crazy thing is like 1564 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,720 Speaker 2: in the old days, like Radio Row was really cool. 1565 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,760 Speaker 2: The last time I went, Radio Row didn't have much 1566 01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,360 Speaker 2: to it. It's pretty minimal. 1567 01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 3: Think it's only the big ones. But even now, like 1568 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 3: Dan Patrick's show is somewhere else, NBC is somewhere else, 1569 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:07,880 Speaker 3: SESPN is somewhere. 1570 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,560 Speaker 2: The ones that the last time I went, when it 1571 01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,960 Speaker 2: was a big deal, like it was like it was 1572 01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,479 Speaker 2: Mike Francessa. This was after he had split with Mad Dog, 1573 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,960 Speaker 2: so it was Mike Franciss Wfan and then it was 1574 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,960 Speaker 2: Jim Rome, Like Jim Rome's set was incredible at the 1575 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 2: super Bowl, but like that was it. And then you know, 1576 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,800 Speaker 2: you bring all the old timers by and they talked 1577 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,960 Speaker 2: to you or whatever, and so that's that's kind of fun. 1578 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,800 Speaker 2: It's crazy who you just run into because kind of 1579 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,680 Speaker 2: the whole league's there, so you like you'll just be 1580 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,320 Speaker 2: walking down the street and you'll you'll see some legendary 1581 01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,160 Speaker 2: player Eric Dickerson or something walking down the street, which 1582 01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:44,240 Speaker 2: is pretty cool. The game itself, in person, I think 1583 01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 2: is largely stinks. I mean, the commercials are long. The 1584 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:51,920 Speaker 2: commercials take forever, so you don't get to see any 1585 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:56,680 Speaker 2: of them. You really can't hear the halftime. So I 1586 01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:02,760 Speaker 2: had and I had Paul McCartney, Madonna, Beyonce. 1587 01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,280 Speaker 3: Wow, and you couldn't hear it in the in the venue, 1588 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:06,520 Speaker 3: I couldn't. 1589 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,120 Speaker 2: Hear Beyonce at all. And I heard she put on 1590 01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:09,439 Speaker 2: a hell of a show in New Orleans, and I 1591 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,840 Speaker 2: couldn't make out any of it. Madonna, I could Court. 1592 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 2: I could sort of hear Madonna in Indianapolis. The one 1593 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 2: I could hear absolutely was U two in New Orleans 1594 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,519 Speaker 2: where the streets have no names, that everyone who died 1595 01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,400 Speaker 2: nine to eleven, you could they were. That was like 1596 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 2: a U two concert that they put on. I cannot 1597 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 2: remember the other one. I can't remember the halftime of 1598 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,360 Speaker 2: the other one, but I remember with both Beyonce and 1599 01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,240 Speaker 2: Madonna had a very difficult time of hearing what they 1600 01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:40,000 Speaker 2: were doing. It was like their voice track was drowned 1601 01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:41,800 Speaker 2: out by everything. You could hear all the music, but 1602 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,719 Speaker 2: like the voice track, you had a tough time hearing. 1603 01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:45,760 Speaker 2: And you're so far away. You know, a lot of 1604 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,759 Speaker 2: times the Super Bowl media is in the stands. 1605 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're watching everything on the on the jumbo tron. 1606 01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:51,400 Speaker 12: Yeah. 1607 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,840 Speaker 2: And then the last time, the last one I went 1608 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,880 Speaker 2: to was in New Orleans. It was forty nine ers Ravens, 1609 01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:58,920 Speaker 2: and that was when the lights went out the third quarter, 1610 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:01,759 Speaker 2: So I thought we were under terrorists attack, quite honestly, 1611 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,840 Speaker 2: like I think all of us did. We're like, oh God, 1612 01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,760 Speaker 2: you know what's happening now, because I mean it's the 1613 01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,360 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. The lights go out. I mean that's like 1614 01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 2: a scene out of Batman, right, that type of stuff, Like, 1615 01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:13,560 Speaker 2: you're not the lights aren't supposed to go out in 1616 01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,360 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. So that was quite terrifying. 1617 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:22,240 Speaker 3: So up until about three years ago in our road case, 1618 01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,240 Speaker 3: you know, I mean from a radio standpoint, you pack 1619 01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 3: a backup, you pack a backup, and you pack a 1620 01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,559 Speaker 3: back up. Yeah, right up until about it was right 1621 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,240 Speaker 3: after COVID it was it was twenty one. I think 1622 01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,200 Speaker 3: we finally made the decision to get rid of it. 1623 01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:42,960 Speaker 3: We had a rotary dial phone, oh like a phone. Yeah, 1624 01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,040 Speaker 3: it was just it was in the it was in 1625 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,880 Speaker 3: the rack, like behind the rack that we could pull 1626 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:49,720 Speaker 3: out and plug into it because we always had a 1627 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,120 Speaker 3: pots line as a backup, yep, and the guys could 1628 01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,280 Speaker 3: literally call the game because that's how on the phone. 1629 01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,960 Speaker 3: That's how Nance or whoever was calling the Super Bowl. 1630 01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,400 Speaker 2: Because Nance, I'm pretty sure. 1631 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,360 Speaker 3: They called the game on a cell phone. But but 1632 01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:06,040 Speaker 3: like cell phones were a little sketchy because of that 1633 01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:10,960 Speaker 3: dome sucks from a technology standpoint. So we had a 1634 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 3: hardline phone that we took with us to every game. 1635 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,640 Speaker 3: That was our third or fourth backup. It was all 1636 01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:22,559 Speaker 3: hell's breaking loose here, Yeah, take that phone. Yeah it's. 1637 01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you it's a wide array of experiences going 1638 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 2: to it. The week leading up is fun. I mean 1639 01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,720 Speaker 2: it's just a ton of parties and fun and and 1640 01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:34,720 Speaker 2: I've heard all of that is a lot of fun. 1641 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,840 Speaker 2: And again, it's cool. The game, it sounds pretty cool, 1642 01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,680 Speaker 2: like the pomp, like you feel the juice of being 1643 01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:42,719 Speaker 2: at a super Bowl and all the things that happen 1644 01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,040 Speaker 2: in it, for sure, But it's a lot of downtime 1645 01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:46,880 Speaker 2: with the commercials and it feels like you're a commercial 1646 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,560 Speaker 2: like every two seconds. All right, we do have the 1647 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,519 Speaker 2: Jamis stuff now, all right, So here is Jamis having 1648 01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,479 Speaker 2: a little bit of fun with with Chris Jones. 1649 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,080 Speaker 5: You've been him before. Man, you're going for your fourth 1650 01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:58,879 Speaker 5: Fooper Bowl with this organization. 1651 01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,479 Speaker 8: Man, I just really want to know here today, brother 1652 01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:02,960 Speaker 8: is what's your favorite color? 1653 01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:06,080 Speaker 2: Oh? 1654 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,759 Speaker 4: Man, Jacos Man, it's always a pleasure. 1655 01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,320 Speaker 5: Ben favorite color is always red. 1656 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:11,599 Speaker 10: Man. 1657 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:12,280 Speaker 12: Red? 1658 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,480 Speaker 5: Do you be seeing red when you be sacking quarterbacks? 1659 01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:15,680 Speaker 14: Man? 1660 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,479 Speaker 5: Because you not pleasant when you're in the backfield. You 1661 01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,720 Speaker 5: know what I do see I see you red man? 1662 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,280 Speaker 5: Do see us see your red? Okay? 1663 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,519 Speaker 8: So when you push my right tack in my loud 1664 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,559 Speaker 8: were you thinking about the sac Are you just trying 1665 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,559 Speaker 8: to hurt my right tack? I was definitely thinking about 1666 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,640 Speaker 8: the sage, thinking about the tag. 1667 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:39,720 Speaker 3: He is unfettered, Like what is his day to day 1668 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,240 Speaker 3: operation this week in the Super Bowl? Well he was. 1669 01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,440 Speaker 2: I started doing a thing when I was in Tallahassee, 1670 01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,080 Speaker 2: like oh one, and they just continued at the television 1671 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,439 Speaker 2: station I worked at where we would pick one player 1672 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,200 Speaker 2: every year to go around like Florida State Media Day 1673 01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:56,719 Speaker 2: and just screw around with everybody. And I do remember 1674 01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,600 Speaker 2: the very first time that he did it as a 1675 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,640 Speaker 2: true freshman. It wasn't they just knew he had a personality. 1676 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,280 Speaker 2: It was his red shirt freshman when he won the 1677 01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,439 Speaker 2: won the Heisman, it was a true freshman. He sat 1678 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,360 Speaker 2: behind I want to say Christian Ponder, I think, and 1679 01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,200 Speaker 2: but anyway, they gave him a mic and he ran 1680 01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,720 Speaker 2: around and it's pure joy, like he's always been like this. 1681 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:14,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is just well. 1682 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,240 Speaker 3: You said that the day we signed him. You're like, 1683 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,960 Speaker 3: he's gonna come in here and you're gonna go and 1684 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,600 Speaker 3: you're gonna go. That's been him, That's what that's him. Yep, there, 1685 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,760 Speaker 3: it's absolutely authentic. All right. 1686 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,880 Speaker 2: Coming up, we will go a little bit or just 1687 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:30,920 Speaker 2: a wild weekend in the NBA. We will do that. 1688 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,439 Speaker 2: Plus Matt Miller of ESPN releases a two round mock draft. 1689 01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,080 Speaker 2: We will let you know where he sees us picking 1690 01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,400 Speaker 2: and who he sees us picking. 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At number two, he has us taking Travis Hunter, 1701 01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:21,720 Speaker 2: wide receiver. 1702 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:22,880 Speaker 3: Cornerback out of Colorado. 1703 01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,040 Speaker 2: The quote here is the Browns are facing questions about 1704 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,479 Speaker 2: quarterback to Shaan Watson's future, so it's logical to think 1705 01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:30,679 Speaker 2: they'd be all in on a passer here. But Cleveland 1706 01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,800 Speaker 2: isn't a lock to draft a quarterback given the money 1707 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,800 Speaker 2: it is committed at the position. Instead, the Browns might 1708 01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,560 Speaker 2: go with the most dynamic player in the draft. The 1709 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,559 Speaker 2: debate over which position he should play in the NFL 1710 01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:42,479 Speaker 2: is ongoing, but the Browns need help at receiver and 1711 01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:48,080 Speaker 2: at corner. Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter is a one of one. 1712 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,960 Speaker 2: No one has ever done what he just did at 1713 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:55,720 Speaker 2: Colorado for two years, playing both predominantly at high level, 1714 01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,000 Speaker 2: on a first team All American at both corner and 1715 01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:02,240 Speaker 2: at wide receiver, and in the return game, and winning 1716 01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:06,720 Speaker 2: the Heisman and all of those things. I don't know 1717 01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,200 Speaker 2: why he couldn't do both in the league. I'm sure 1718 01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,400 Speaker 2: he will try to do both in the league. It's 1719 01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,320 Speaker 2: interesting Jeremiah and Kuiper thought he was best served at 1720 01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,880 Speaker 2: wide receiver. You could see him thinking that too. Wide 1721 01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,360 Speaker 2: receivers are compensated better than corners. However, there are more 1722 01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,080 Speaker 2: wide receivers that are elite than there are cornerbacks or elite, 1723 01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,479 Speaker 2: So who knows how all of that weighs out. He 1724 01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,160 Speaker 2: would be a plug and play I mean, he would 1725 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:32,840 Speaker 2: be dynamic star on offense. He's just a If you 1726 01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,439 Speaker 2: haven't seen him play, folks, I don't know how you've 1727 01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,880 Speaker 2: seen highlights, Like he high points the ball at an 1728 01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,960 Speaker 2: elite level. He comes down with catches that are improbable 1729 01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:44,519 Speaker 2: at elite level. He is a lock down corner at 1730 01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,519 Speaker 2: his elital level as can be. He's dynamic in the 1731 01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,760 Speaker 2: return game, like he's just a dangerous weapon all over 1732 01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:53,680 Speaker 2: the field, both sides of the ball. So you understand it. 1733 01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,680 Speaker 2: It feels like most people think that, along with the 1734 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:59,800 Speaker 2: defensive tackles that Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter are locks 1735 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:01,040 Speaker 2: be really good pros. 1736 01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1737 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And again, whether he plays wide receiver or a corner, 1738 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,920 Speaker 3: he's going to be an impact player. This is what 1739 01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:09,960 Speaker 3: happens when you pick at the top of the draft. 1740 01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,559 Speaker 3: You have the opportunity to get game changing players. As 1741 01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,719 Speaker 3: ab said, is it generational. I don't know if it's generational. 1742 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,200 Speaker 3: None of us know until they actually get on the field. No, 1743 01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:24,160 Speaker 3: but a game changer yes, and a program builder one 1744 01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:24,960 Speaker 3: hundred percent. 1745 01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,719 Speaker 2: The see this I wouldn't understand though. So at thirty 1746 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,160 Speaker 2: three he has us taking cornerback Trey Amos. So he 1747 01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,320 Speaker 2: has us taking wide receiver corner at number two, and 1748 01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,479 Speaker 2: then he's got to take another corner at thirty three. 1749 01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,400 Speaker 2: The Browns likely opt to find his short term quarterback 1750 01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,559 Speaker 2: in free agency, prepared to draft one early in twenty 1751 01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,759 Speaker 2: twenty six. Amos meanwhile, had three interceptions for the Rebels 1752 01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,200 Speaker 2: in twenty four and can start immediately opposite Denzel Ward 1753 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,439 Speaker 2: with his press manned skills and great coverage instincts. Checking 1754 01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,400 Speaker 2: another box, we have mj Emerson there who came along 1755 01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,880 Speaker 2: as the season went a long, Greg news so well 1756 01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:56,640 Speaker 2: on the. 1757 01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,880 Speaker 3: Fifth year on the rookie option, and we've also drafted 1758 01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:02,160 Speaker 3: a a couple other guys. The kid out of Northwestern 1759 01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:08,200 Speaker 3: we drafted. Uh sure, I don't even know what's going on. 1760 01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,880 Speaker 2: Your jackets on. It's got his layers, his swackets. 1761 01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 3: You have options at corner already, and if you take 1762 01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,800 Speaker 3: in if you take take two hundred, like, by the way, 1763 01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:23,960 Speaker 3: you need help and receiver in corner. You also need 1764 01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,560 Speaker 3: help a quarterback. And you can talk about the this 1765 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:31,760 Speaker 3: is what, Yeah, you've committed a lot of money at 1766 01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,840 Speaker 3: the position. Yeah, Matt uh right now, none of them 1767 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,759 Speaker 3: can play right well. The other line I don't understand 1768 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,439 Speaker 3: is for him, he's a really good job. I respect 1769 01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:43,880 Speaker 3: he's put a lot of work in to get to 1770 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,880 Speaker 3: where he's at. Is the Browns will likely opt to 1771 01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,960 Speaker 3: find a short term quarterback in free agency and prepare 1772 01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:55,080 Speaker 3: to draft one in early twenty six. That last line is, 1773 01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:59,000 Speaker 3: that last line is impossible. You don't get to prepare 1774 01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,200 Speaker 3: to draft one in twenty because the only way you 1775 01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:02,760 Speaker 3: get the one you want is if you pick number 1776 01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,400 Speaker 3: one overall and you have no idea who's going to 1777 01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:06,559 Speaker 3: be good in twenty twenty six. 1778 01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:08,559 Speaker 2: None of us do. A year ago at this time, 1779 01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:11,759 Speaker 2: we said Carson Beck, Quinn ears one two. Shoudueur Sanders 1780 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,040 Speaker 2: was the third. It was those three guys. A year ago. 1781 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,400 Speaker 2: Cam Ward went to the NFL Draft and they said, eh, 1782 01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,920 Speaker 2: not for you, and so then he went to Miami 1783 01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:22,519 Speaker 2: and now he's going to go in the first round. 1784 01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,960 Speaker 2: So you don't have any idea what is going to 1785 01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,080 Speaker 2: happen a year from now at the quarterback position. Ironically, 1786 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,240 Speaker 2: as cam Ward going number three to the Giants. So 1787 01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:31,720 Speaker 2: he's good enough to go three to the Giants, but 1788 01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,920 Speaker 2: not two to us is the thinking there. Shoudueur Sanders 1789 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,520 Speaker 2: goes number six to the Las Vegas Raiders. Other quarterbacks 1790 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,840 Speaker 2: Jet he has two more that go in the second round, 1791 01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,040 Speaker 2: Jackson Dart number forty to New Orleans and then Quinn 1792 01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,240 Speaker 2: ears number forty two to the New York Jets. Dalton 1793 01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,640 Speaker 2: Wasserman PFF actually had Will Howard of Ohio State the 1794 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,880 Speaker 2: number three quarterback on his list based on what we 1795 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:53,200 Speaker 2: have some. 1796 01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,360 Speaker 3: Quarterback numbers we'll get to tomorrow that we found some 1797 01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,519 Speaker 3: quarterback rankings from our good friend Jordan Reid at ESPN 1798 01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,879 Speaker 3: post all the All Star Games and everything, some interesting ones. 1799 01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:05,479 Speaker 2: If you're curious. What's gonna happen around the rest of 1800 01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,880 Speaker 2: the AFC North. The Bengals Matt Miller has going edge 1801 01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,160 Speaker 2: Edge Shamar Stewart out of Texas A and M in 1802 01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:13,639 Speaker 2: the first round, then J. T. Tumolowau out of Ohio 1803 01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,360 Speaker 2: State in the second. He has the Steelers going Buckeye 1804 01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,960 Speaker 2: Buckeye A Mechobuka number twenty one overall. I hate this 1805 01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:22,880 Speaker 2: that one. I'm Mexican, Mexicanna be great. Yeah, he's a 1806 01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,160 Speaker 2: total I don't know if he'll be a star, but 1807 01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,080 Speaker 2: he'll be a plug and play. 1808 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:28,879 Speaker 4: He does everything correct. 1809 01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:30,960 Speaker 2: You saw the video of him in the lead up 1810 01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,400 Speaker 2: to the plate of Jeremiah Smith on the tape. He's 1811 01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:35,120 Speaker 2: got inside leverage. You got to take a shot, and 1812 01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,080 Speaker 2: then fourth in the season they or third in the 1813 01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:39,800 Speaker 2: season they do and land it. 1814 01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,200 Speaker 3: I keep seeing mox where he goes there, and I 1815 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,439 Speaker 3: hate every time I talk about it. 1816 01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:49,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, also has Quinchahn Judkins going to the Steelers as well, 1817 01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,120 Speaker 2: the running back out of Ohio State going there. So 1818 01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,760 Speaker 2: that's where he stands on all of those things. This 1819 01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,439 Speaker 2: has been a wild sports few days. The trade of 1820 01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,760 Speaker 2: Luka Doncic to Dallas, from Dallas to Los Angeles. Talked 1821 01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,600 Speaker 2: about that just briefly. Yesterday. There was another deal that 1822 01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,040 Speaker 2: involved here in Fox going to the Spur, Zach Lavine 1823 01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,120 Speaker 2: heading to Sacramento. I do think that whatever you think 1824 01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:12,680 Speaker 2: about all of this stuff, I think it's good for 1825 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:16,880 Speaker 2: that league that this has happened. It's not good for 1826 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,120 Speaker 2: Mavericks fans, I'm sure. 1827 01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,639 Speaker 3: Oh, but even. 1828 01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:25,880 Speaker 2: Despite it being the Lakers, for most people's preference them 1829 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,680 Speaker 2: not having him when When something like that happens, it 1830 01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:33,960 Speaker 2: does create interest in the league. So it's so funny. Wendy, 1831 01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:35,599 Speaker 2: I got to give him credit. He was so great 1832 01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,320 Speaker 2: Greeney on first take this morning before I did my 1833 01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,280 Speaker 2: morning show, he was just trying to get some get 1834 01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,080 Speaker 2: Lebron to play with Steph and Golden State and trying 1835 01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,439 Speaker 2: to drum it up, and Wendy was just exasperated, and 1836 01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,280 Speaker 2: he's like, can we just let them play together? Lebron 1837 01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,519 Speaker 2: James is a Laker. You tell me. Lebron James is 1838 01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,600 Speaker 2: gonna want to play with a top three player in 1839 01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,840 Speaker 2: the league right now? Like, why would he not want 1840 01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,560 Speaker 2: to play with him? So everyone's trying to look for 1841 01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:01,479 Speaker 2: that next thing with it. But the reality is is 1842 01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,800 Speaker 2: you have two That team now has two. Lebron just 1843 01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:07,760 Speaker 2: had a triple double over the weekend. You have two 1844 01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,559 Speaker 2: of the best all around players in the last fifty 1845 01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:14,160 Speaker 2: years offensively on the same team. Yeah, and they're both big, 1846 01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:16,960 Speaker 2: they can defend a lot of positions. They're probably not 1847 01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:18,680 Speaker 2: gonna be able to do anything at center, but it 1848 01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,960 Speaker 2: certainly makes them more interesting. It makes the NBA more 1849 01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:21,439 Speaker 2: interesting in. 1850 01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:25,240 Speaker 3: The interrupt right, It's a home run for the Lakers. 1851 01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:25,880 Speaker 5: This is what they do. 1852 01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,200 Speaker 3: It's first thing I said. I'm like, that's what they do. 1853 01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:34,160 Speaker 3: They again, they do it. Yeah, I don't I don't 1854 01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,320 Speaker 3: know what Dallas was thinking. I don't know where that 1855 01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:40,200 Speaker 3: relationship is with Luca. Clearly not something not good. But 1856 01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:44,599 Speaker 3: I again, he's an NBA first team. 1857 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,160 Speaker 2: Five times by twenty five. Yeah, I mean like all 1858 01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,559 Speaker 2: NBA first team five time by twenty five. They get him. 1859 01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:52,400 Speaker 2: They did it with Wilt towards the end of his career. 1860 01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:56,160 Speaker 2: They did it with Kareem They did it with Pau Gasol, 1861 01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:01,519 Speaker 2: they did it with Anthony Davis. I mean they because 1862 01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,920 Speaker 2: of the draft. They were a Magic Johnson, James Worthy, 1863 01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,800 Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant. None of those picks were theirs on their own. 1864 01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,160 Speaker 2: They were all trades that they had done to be 1865 01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,360 Speaker 2: able to acquire them, and they got them all. It's 1866 01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:12,840 Speaker 2: just what they do. 1867 01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:13,280 Speaker 3: Yep. 1868 01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,000 Speaker 2: It's what they do, all right, So much more to come. 1869 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:17,800 Speaker 2: You listen to cleveand Browns Daily on eight fifty ESP 1870 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:18,760 Speaker 2: and Cleveland. 1871 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bett, an official sports 1872 01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,759 Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns on eight to fifty 1873 01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:29,760 Speaker 1: ESP and Cleveland. 1874 01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:41,360 Speaker 2: Cooper Flag best freshman in Duke history. 1875 01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:45,160 Speaker 3: Cool, you're gonna do that with forty thirty seconds? 1876 01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:45,960 Speaker 2: You got thirty seconds? 1877 01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:46,240 Speaker 3: Give it. 1878 01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:51,360 Speaker 2: You can't do that to us, No, grand Hill, Well, 1879 01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,240 Speaker 2: well he's got time. If he hangs a banner, he 1880 01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,320 Speaker 2: hangs a banner, he's a banner. And he's National Player 1881 01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,439 Speaker 2: of the Year as a freshman. Was Ion National Player 1882 01:30:59,439 --> 01:30:59,720 Speaker 2: of the Year. 1883 01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,360 Speaker 3: I think he was. I think he was. 1884 01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:04,200 Speaker 2: But this kid's unbelievable. 1885 01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:08,439 Speaker 3: He's awesome. He's great. And they boat race the Carolina Tarials. 1886 01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,920 Speaker 3: Take that cherry. You know you're up next, Boots. 1887 01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:11,759 Speaker 2: He likes Carolina. 1888 01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:12,120 Speaker 13: You know that. 1889 01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:13,680 Speaker 3: Oh you're dead to me? 1890 01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,000 Speaker 2: Next level, coming up next. 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