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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, who's in Jordan Romano and welcome to the Philly.

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Speaker 2: Show, Ruby Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's Lucky. How is

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Speaker 2: everybody doing? The Philly Show? Brought to you by the

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Speaker 2: File Territory Network. It's Monday morning, December twenty third, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. Guys, how are we doing very well?

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Speaker 1: Doing great? Todd doing wonderfully well? Thank you sir.

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Speaker 2: We haven't chatted in a while. So the last time

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Speaker 2: we chatted was we had a last our last show

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Speaker 2: was Thursday, and the whole theme of the show was

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Speaker 2: what in the hell is going on with the Phillies?

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Speaker 2: These guys are ever gonna do anything else again? Just

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Speaker 2: go Jordan Romano and that's it. And then word broke

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Speaker 2: Thursday night that they had agreed to a one year,

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Speaker 2: ten million dollar deal.

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Speaker 3: With outfielder Max Kepler.

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Speaker 2: And then Dave Dombrowski on Friday has a little zoom

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Speaker 2: call with some reporters. It says, yeah, you know, we're

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Speaker 2: kind of out of the free agent market on the

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Speaker 2: impactful type of offensive player.

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Speaker 3: At this point.

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Speaker 2: We're kind of looking for maybe a number five starter type,

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Speaker 2: maybe a guy that can go from the rotation of

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Speaker 2: the bullpen boom.

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Speaker 3: Sunday morning, they trade for Hazes Lazard from the Marlins.

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Speaker 2: For Starlinkaba and Namari and Boyd, two of their top prosible.

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Speaker 2: Caba is certainly one of their top prospects. So they

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Speaker 2: made two moves in a span of about seventy two

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Speaker 2: hours and got a lot of reaction. What'd you, guys,

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Speaker 2: what was your first reaction with, you know, just just

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Speaker 2: both moves, I guess, or do you want to start

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Speaker 2: with Kapler?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean both moves. I think there's a common

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Speaker 4: theme really all three moves that they've made in the

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Speaker 4: last two weeks, for Mano, Kepler, and now Jesus Lozardo,

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Speaker 4: all three are bounced back type of guys. You know,

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Speaker 4: two of them are coming off surgery. Lozardo was coming

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Speaker 4: off a down year where he dealt with some elbow

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Speaker 4: and some back problems. But you know, I'm sure they

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Speaker 4: vetted these guys very thoroughly medically, and you know, if

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Speaker 4: if all three of them bounce back, they're they're really

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Speaker 4: good upside. Uh, they have good upside potential, all of them.

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Speaker 4: You know, Kepler's been a good major league player, Romano

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Speaker 4: has been an all star closer and and his WIZARDO

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Speaker 4: has you know, top of the rotation stuff when he's healthy.

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Speaker 4: So if if if Lozardro was healthy, what they've done

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Speaker 4: is put together a one through five in the starting rotation.

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Speaker 4: It's probably as good as anybody anybody's in baseball. You know,

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Speaker 4: there's there's talent there, there's firepower there, there's there's experience there.

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Speaker 4: They just they need him to be healthy and need

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Speaker 4: Ranger to be healthy. You come at people with three

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Speaker 4: lefties and two really really good workhorse type right handers

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Speaker 4: to the top of rotation. You know, boy, I like,

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Speaker 4: I think the last two weeks have been potentially really

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Speaker 4: good for this for this team. May have gotten a closer,

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Speaker 4: they may have gotten a pretty good uh power bat

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Speaker 4: and the corner and Kepler and a two years of

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Speaker 4: control on Hazel's Glizardo. If he's healthy, he's an awfully

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Speaker 4: good one. So yeah, we were kind of fretting the inaction,

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Speaker 4: but they've seemed to have put together some good moves

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Speaker 4: here that I think can complement a really strong nucleus.

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Speaker 4: I still stick by what I say that if they're

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Speaker 4: gonna go far and they're gonna win this division, again

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Speaker 4: and have a great October. It's gonna be with the

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Speaker 4: players that were already hear, but I like the potential

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Speaker 1: And not the super sexy move on Kepler. I've seen

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Speaker 1: Kepler for a long time when I was coaching Boston,

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Speaker 1: so sort break in and really liked his ability. Then

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Speaker 1: he grew into a very good major league player. Did

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Speaker 1: not have a great year last year, had some real issues,

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Speaker 1: you know, had that hernia injury, a sports hernia type

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Speaker 1: to be fine, really good ballplayer, good defender. Obviously, he's

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Speaker 1: played right field pretty much his whole career, has played

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Speaker 1: solid defender. I think there shouldn't be a problem with

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Speaker 1: be tougher for him. So I think that the defensively

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Speaker 1: want the offense, and when this guy's good. He's pretty

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Speaker 1: darn good. He's a good, solid major league every day player.

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Speaker 1: He just has to be healthy, now, is he. I mean,

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Speaker 1: some opportunities to play in left field. He's a good athlete.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's a platoon ish type of situation. Although Dave Dombrowski,

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Speaker 1: I think at the outset is probably gonna give him

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to play Max Kepler an opportunity to play

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Speaker 1: pretty much every day. Again, not the super sexy move,

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Speaker 1: but you know, sometimes you get guys on one of

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Speaker 1: it was more of an injury issue. The Lezardo thing, man,

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Speaker 1: I think is outstanding. I love, love, love, love, as

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Speaker 1: if because I think they've probably got in their eyes

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Speaker 1: He can be a two. He can be a two

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Speaker 1: or three at least, and I mean the makeup. I

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Speaker 1: had an opportunity to talk to my half brother, Luis Tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: who knows the kid well. He's in a Venezuelan kid.

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Speaker 1: He's part of that I'll be lost Sulia club from Maracaibo.

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Speaker 1: He has not pitched there for a while, but he

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Speaker 1: knows him well. And the makeup is he said, the

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Speaker 1: makeup is off the charts. This guy is a bulldog man.

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Speaker 1: He wants the baseball. I love guys like this. I

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Speaker 1: certainly one of those guys. I like the way he competes,

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Speaker 1: Now you never know how it's going to respond to

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Speaker 4: Same thing on Kepler. They're gonna bat Kepler maybe seventh.

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Speaker 4: I think. Yeah, you know, it's all about expectation. If

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Speaker 4: you're getting Max Kippler to hit four, you're like, eh,

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Speaker 4: Lozado or pitch four or five. Pretty good, pretty good acquisitions.

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Speaker 3: No, Tom, Yeah, absolutely, And I love the fact, you know,

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Speaker 2: When when the things didn't seem to be happening for

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Speaker 2: and you knew when they didn't go after Sodo and

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Speaker 2: you know, what are they possibly going to do? So

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Speaker 2: you know, I I like the fact that they made

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Speaker 3: Improve a strength.

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Speaker 2: You know, you can't get the bolt, maybe you can't

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Speaker 3: I really do. I really do like that idea.

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Speaker 2: And it also protects you because right now they right

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Speaker 2: now they were going to go in with Taiwan Walker.

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Speaker 2: You know, Tyler Phillips some of these younger guys. Maybe

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Speaker 2: they signed a Spencer. Maybe they would have signed a

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Speaker 3: So now you're now.

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Speaker 2: You're obviously you're deeper, you're better protective if there's an injury,

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Speaker 2: if one of these other guys goes down, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're not You're not as thin, you know, all of

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Speaker 2: when when Ranger was down, which is like Nola, Sanchez

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Speaker 3: So I do like that.

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Speaker 2: One thing I would I want to ask get you

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Speaker 2: guys opinion on. So when words started to break on

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Speaker 2: my mind immediately went to right handed bat and I'm going, okay,

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Speaker 2: so now I'm going one one year deal right handed bats.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm looking through all the available free agents and

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out who's the right handed bat

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Speaker 3: Do you guys have any issues or concerns about having

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Speaker 4: Well, like I said, I think he's gonna hit seven,

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Speaker 4: So he could conceivably have a couple of right handed

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Speaker 4: you know, it's like I've had this conversation with people

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Speaker 4: talk about, hey, they don't have a left hander and

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Speaker 4: a rotation, Well, would you rather have a mediocre left

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Speaker 4: this guy has some upside. He did hit left he's

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Speaker 4: okay last year. There's been times in his career where

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Speaker 4: he hasn't. But I think healthy and in this ballpark,

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Speaker 4: I think he can be a run producer in this lineup,

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Speaker 4: especially in the bottom third. Yeah, it's not a perfect solution.

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Speaker 4: He's like a little more right handed balance. But you know,

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Speaker 4: he's got nine years in the buildings, He's had some

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Speaker 4: really good seasons. I'd rather take my chance on a

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Speaker 1: I mean, ideally, I would love to bat a right

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Speaker 1: You know, I not a ton of swing and miss,

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Speaker 1: not a ton of strikeouts. I mean, that's what sort

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Speaker 1: of we were looking for, just because we've we've had

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Speaker 1: really struggled with that, and the a Phillies had really

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Speaker 1: struggled with that, and especially in the latter part of

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Speaker 1: that's gonna have to come internally. They're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: be better at making those adjustments internally, whether it's you know,

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Speaker 1: Trey Turner making sure that he swings its strikes and

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Speaker 1: not breaking pictures off the plate. Same thing with Castianos,

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Speaker 1: I mean, internally, they have to get better, and I

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Speaker 1: really do. And I think this also length lengthens out

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Speaker 4: I think they could make it work.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I think you just you hit the nail on

432
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Speaker 1: the head. What a problem to have all these guys

433
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 1: are I don't want to sound like Debbie Downer, but

434
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 1: during the course of the first half of the season

435
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: or some part of the season, there's going to be

436
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Speaker 1: a pitcher who cannot make a start. It's going to happen,

437
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: or a couple of starts. It's just gonna happen. It's

438
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: a nature of the beast. Very rarely do you have

439
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Speaker 1: that combination of like quality and health throughout the season

440
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Speaker 1: with your starting rotation. I mean, look at some of

441
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Speaker 1: the teams that were that were playoff teams said they had,

442
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: like the Detroit Tigers, they had like one starter.

443
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then they have everybody DRIs lost a whole

444
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Speaker 5: sleep guys.

445
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean you're talking about it's just inevitable.

446
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: It's going to happen in this day and age. That said,

447
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: when it's time for him to be I will tell you,

448
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: I'll say exactly what my dad used to say all

449
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Speaker 1: the time. When it's time for him to be in

450
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: the big leagues. He'll be in the big legs.

451
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Speaker 3: So somebody one of you guys mentioned payroll.

452
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Speaker 2: I went to Fangrafts today to look at the Phillies

453
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five projected payrolls, and that the payroll for

454
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Speaker 2: luxury tax purposes right now is projected to be three

455
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 2: hundred and four point four million dollars. That's with the

456
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 2: recent editions of Romano eight and a half, Kepler ten.

457
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: I think Lozzardroo's projet to be around six. So that's

458
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: the second highest payroll in baseball. Those cheap Phillies not.

459
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: Going Yeah, they're so cheap, Oh my god.

460
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 2: The Dodgers at three thirty two or number one, Yankees

461
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: are third, two ninety eight, Mets a distant fourth even

462
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: after jan So too at two fifty five. That'll probably

463
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 2: still go up, of course, but I ran the numbers,

464
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: and three oh four the fourth luxury tax is three

465
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 2: oh one. Every dollar spent over that, you're taxed at

466
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: one hundred and ten percent. The Phillies right now at

467
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 2: three oh four, their penalty that they're going to pay

468
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: an addition to that, that payroll is forty four points

469
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 2: sixty four million dollars in just tax penalties, So that

470
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 2: puts their that puts their total payroll commitment to almost

471
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty million dollars next season.

472
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Speaker 3: So that kind of helps.

473
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Speaker 2: Also explain why they're going on some of these flyer

474
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: type guys or bounced back guys like we've talked about,

475
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 2: you know.

476
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: They they're they're they're they pushed past the fourth luxury tax.

477
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Speaker 2: And that explains why Kepler and maybe not Tasker Hernandez,

478
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: why Lizardo and maybe not a you know, a big

479
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: time free agent starting pitcher, although it did cost you Sterling, Cobbin,

480
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: Murray and Boyd as well.

481
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Speaker 3: But wanted to mention those numbers.

482
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Speaker 4: No, tod so you're the capologist too.

483
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Speaker 3: I just thought my numbers are right.

484
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Speaker 4: One.

485
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Speaker 1: I'm definitely not the capologist at two eighty one.

486
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Speaker 4: Right at two hundred and eighty one million, where they're

487
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 4: definitely going to be between two eighty one and three

488
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 4: oh one is like ninety two percent tax.

489
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're taxed at ninety two and a.

490
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 4: And then it jumps to one ten, so you're paying

491
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Speaker 4: that ninety two and then when he gets to three

492
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 4: oh one, anything above that is paying one ten.

493
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: Yep a dollar. You pay a dollar ten for every

494
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: dollar you spend over. Yeah, so from two forty one

495
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: to two sixty one, not to get two in the weeds.

496
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 2: From two forty one to two sixty one, they're paying

497
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: fifty percent. From two sixty one to two eighty one,

498
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 2: they're paying sixty two percent from two eighty one to

499
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 2: three to one ninety two and a half, and then

500
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Speaker 2: one hundred ten percent every dollar over three oh one.

501
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 2: So and they also because they're over that I think

502
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: the third luxury tax, their top draft pick last year

503
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 2: falls ten spots in the draft, so they take that hit.

504
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 3: They take that hit as well.

505
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: So they're being they're being super cheap. They're being super cheap.

506
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they're just not going for it

507
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 1: unless they're less. We forget, folks. I mean, okay, I

508
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: know that they did not win the World Series in

509
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: the last three years. I know that they you know,

510
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: didn't get to the Promised Land and get that damn

511
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: trophy back. But they're in the hunt and they're one

512
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: of the best teams in baseball, and when it gets

513
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: down to the tournament at the end, you just never know.

514
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: What you want to do is put yourself in a

515
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: position to contend every year. And if you can do that,

516
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: then you got a chance to win the World Series.

517
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: And with this signing and some of the moves that

518
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: they made, I said, I thought that they were a

519
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: top five team before coming into the season. Right now

520
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,120
Speaker 1: today they're top three team for me with the addition LIZZARDA.

521
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: Who have ahead Dodgers and you know, Dodgers, Yankees.

522
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: Maybe the Yankees. Maybe Dodgers and Yankees. But right, I

523
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: mean yeah, after that, man, it's who else is it?

524
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 4: But the village?

525
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: Right?

526
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 4: What do they What do you think happens with Taiwan Walker?

527
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: That's a great question, that's a super question. I do

528
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 1: think unless they can dump him, and I don't think

529
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: that they can. I think that they're sort of hoping

530
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: that he pitches really well in the spring and it

531
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Speaker 1: puts them in a position to maybe possibly for a

532
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: team that has aspirations of being in in you know,

533
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, maybe they can dump them, eat some

534
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: of the money, eat half of it or something like that,

535
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: or make him or he gives them some depth and

536
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: hopefully he throws well en up that they can maneuver

537
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: him somewhere as a long guy and a swing guy

538
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: in case they have some issues, because then if one

539
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: of those starting five goes down, you still have him

540
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: to at least start some games and pick up some innings,

541
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: and you don't have to go and be tempted to

542
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: go get Painter. And I think that that's that's an

543
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: important thing. Painter's development is so important. It's he's so

544
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: important for the long longevity and long term that you

545
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: just want to make sure you do right by this player,

546
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: much like we handle the way we handled Aaron Nola.

547
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: He doesn't come to the big leagues really until you

548
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: really need him, and he's super ready.

549
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 4: But he's different than Aaron Nola because Aaron Nola didn't

550
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 4: have an elbow surgery.

551
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, and he didn't. He didn't, And

552
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: that's why you got to be even more careful with

553
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: this kid.

554
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to be careful because he's coming off

555
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 4: Tommy John. You want to, you know, build him up

556
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 4: the right way, get him ready the right way, because

557
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 4: as tempting is, it's going to be to get a

558
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 4: contribution from him in twenty twenty five, his best years

559
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 4: are going to be twenty six, twenty seven, eight nine.

560
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 4: You know, don't push the envelope too much, and Lozardo,

561
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 4: you know, allows you not to have to do that.

562
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you treat him a little bit like col Hamil's.

563
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Cole Hamils came back from like having a

564
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: broken arm. We drafted him. It was a great draft

565
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: by Marty and and Mike Arbuckle and Marty Wallomer. I

566
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: mean they it was a tremendous draft, but there were

567
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: some risk associated with it because he had a broken arm.

568
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 6: And you know, so you just have to be really,

569
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 6: really super super careful with a talent like this because

570
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 6: he's just too important for the longevity of the team.

571
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you made a nice trade for Lozardo,

572
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 4: you know, filling a valuable valuable role fits your window.

573
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 4: He's gut experience, and you know you still protected your Crawford.

574
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 4: You're aiden Miller's. I mean, you know, Cabba from everything

575
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: I've heard is if he's not on that top tier,

576
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 4: he's on that he's right there. He's like almost there.

577
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 4: But the fact of the matter is he's nineteen years old,

578
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: and you know, he's an a ball and there's a

579
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: lot of development that has to go right for him

580
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 4: to even contribute here. And I've covered this team for

581
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 4: so long. I have seen probably eight or ten young

582
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 4: international middle infielders that were highly, highly touted that I

583
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 4: don't even think got to triple A. So I wish

584
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 4: him well. I hope he's the exception. I hope he

585
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 4: has a great career, but you can't let that hold

586
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: up a deal like this.

587
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Combin's an outstanding prospect. But he

588
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: is a prospect, and he's young, and I think it's

589
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: it's got a chance to be a very good Major leaguer.

590
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: But physically his physicality is not there yet. He still

591
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: has not. The projection is that he's going to get

592
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: bigger and stronger. He's not quite there yet. He's going

593
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: to be He's an everyday short sype. He seems to

594
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: be like defensively, but to stay in age, man, you've

595
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: got to swing it too. And so there's, you know,

596
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: still some question as to what he becomes as far

597
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: as overall physicality.

598
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: Do we think that.

599
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: The Phillies might have something else up their sleeve or

600
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: do you believe when you know Dave Dombrowski said the

601
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: other day we're pretty much done other than a number

602
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: five starters type of guy, which obviously Lizardo is a

603
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: lot more than just your number five swing.

604
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 3: Type of guy, number five starter. But do we think

605
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: that there's anything else possibly up there sleeve?

606
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: I agree with both of you guys. I don't trade

607
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: Ranger Swars. I don't think they want to trade Ranger Swars.

608
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: I guess maybe for the right piece, you do end

609
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: up trading him. You can't ever say never, of course,

610
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: But do we think that this puts the end of

611
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: the Alec Bohm rumors that you know, maybe they deal

612
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: him to improve someplace.

613
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: You know, I'm keeping an eye on the brag min

614
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 4: Arnato situations when they find landing spots. Maybe something percolates

615
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 4: with Bom. But it just seems like everything's trending toward

616
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: him returning, and I'm very I'm happy with that. I'd

617
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: be totally fine with that. But you know, I can't

618
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 4: say never on possibly moving him if something. But I

619
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: do take Dombrowski at face failure when he says that's

620
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 4: probably it on significant free agents. But you never know

621
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 4: what could present itself in a trade, right.

622
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, But maybe what about like a relieve r on

623
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: a one year deal. Jim.

624
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: I think you mentioned maybe last week, like if Carlos

625
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: Stebez is hanging out there, not your d Yeah, just

626
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 2: bring maybe you know somebody out there.

627
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: Probably don't get Tanner Scott.

628
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: He's probably looking for too many years and he probably

629
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: will get multiple years if he doesn't. But maybe a

630
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: nest of his type guy or somebody along those lines,

631
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: you can get him on a one year deal. Continue

632
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: building I bullpen up one.

633
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 4: Year deal would everything. I've heard that's what they want

634
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 4: to kind of do in their bullpen, and you know

635
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: they're showing that with Romano and Kepler. They like those

636
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 4: one year deal where they are payroll wise. So I

637
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 4: wouldn't rule something like that out. They probably have to

638
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 4: have a little, a little meeting with ownership, but for

639
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 4: the right guy maybe, But you know, this could be

640
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: pretty close to it. I mean it could be.

641
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: There's a long time from now until February twelfth or

642
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: thirteenth or whatever it is when pitchers and catchers are

643
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: going to report, and so I actually think that there's

644
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: going to be more to come, whether it's a six

645
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: year free agent type of a guy or someone that's

646
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: going to battle for a job, or somewhere in the

647
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: middle of the somewhere in the in the middle of

648
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: the bullpen, or someone who a big arm, or somebody

649
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: might take off of waiver wire or something like that.

650
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: And I don't think that they're completely done. I think

651
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: that you're going to see something happen. I don't think

652
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: it's going to be big. Is it possible, yes, But

653
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't think that they're done because just no, Dave Dombrowski,

654
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: he's not gonna stop trying to improve the team. He

655
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: knows that's his job. That's the job of the front

656
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: office is to always keep your eyes open. You never

657
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: know what kind of what can happen. You never know

658
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: where it's a razzle dazzle somewhere. Maybe there's something huge,

659
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, who knows. But I don't think that they're

660
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: completely done. I just don't think there's dreaming large coming.

661
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: Well, we know they're not getting Roki Sasaki. It sounds

662
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: like we kind of knew it. We kind of we

663
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: kind of knew that. We kind of knew that. But

664
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: the Phillies were hoping to make a presentation and they

665
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: got ghosted by.

666
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 4: Sasaki.

667
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: Just like Yamamota didn't want to come to Philly.

668
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: Shoheyo Tani didn't want to come to Philly. Eventually, they're

669
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna sign somebody. It's just it's been that's

670
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: been a real tough road for the Phillies. I know,

671
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is about Philly that just

672
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: doesn't entice the Japanese smith Wire to come here.

673
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's demographics, man, I don't think there's

674
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: any question about it. I mean, I think so there's

675
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: a wests West coast and then a New York vibe

676
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: that that's created is so different for some of the

677
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: some of the pictures from Japan and Korea and such.

678
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: I think it's I think there's a there's a comfort

679
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: being in in those spots because there's other people that

680
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: have come before them and have had some level of

681
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: success doing that. And you know, I can understand it.

682
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: I get it. That's a it's a comfort thing.

683
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: Ghosted, just like Ruben used to ghost us when he

684
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 4: was the GM, Call him up and ask him about

685
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 4: something I was cooking.

686
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: Ruben is a did you guys? Resigned Cliff Lee Ruben?

687
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hey, does uh this guy give you a

688
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: flow exactly, medium flow.

689
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 4: Medium flow, medium flow. I would keep an eye on it.

690
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so hey, we gotta we do have

691
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about some feet, some folks,

692
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 1: some things that have happened. One in particular, I think

693
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: mister Henderson right talk, yeah, oh.

694
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean Ricky Henderson passed away, all time legend,

695
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: one of my favorite players growing up. Do you guys

696
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: do have you guys a man Reuben. You probably ran

697
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: across from Jim. You probably interviewed him several times. I

698
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,479
Speaker 2: interviewed him once, and I can I interviewed him once

699
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: in the clubhouse, visiting clubhouse at Wrigley.

700
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: Field years ago.

701
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: Now, I was just getting my writing career started, and

702
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: I was talking to him way back in the day

703
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: about the death of the stolen base. This is right

704
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: during Peek Sammy SILSI Mark MacGuire times and I just

705
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: remember going walking out and going crap.

706
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 1: I talked to Ricky Henderson.

707
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: Like you know, I remember him stealing one hundred and

708
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,959
Speaker 2: thirty one bases or whatever it was in nineteen eighty

709
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 2: two for the A's.

710
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: So what do you guys remember out Ricky?

711
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 4: Well, I remember he was on second base when Joe

712
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: Carter hit the home run, and I had a couple

713
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 4: a couple interactions with the One was at Veterans Stadium

714
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 4: when he was the Padres and it was getaway day.

715
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 4: It was like a Wednesday afternoon. They were playing at

716
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 4: one o'clock game and it was like one hundred and

717
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 4: three degrees at Veterans Stadium. It was you could chew

718
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 4: the air, it was so hot. And it was like

719
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 4: an hour and fifteen minutes before the game, and I

720
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 4: was in their clubhouse like these are days you could

721
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 4: stay in the clubhouse till an hour before the game.

722
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 4: And he got one whiff of the air out there

723
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 4: on the field. He didn't want to play. It was

724
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 4: too hot for him. And he's he's Bruce Bochi's the manager,

725
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 4: and he is walking around the clubhouse and a pair

726
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 4: of Jim shorts and a T shirts. It doesn't even

727
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 4: haves uniform on, and he does not want to go

728
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 4: out in this heat. And he's going around saying, where's Boach.

729
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 4: Where's Boach? You tell him? Ricky Dunn pulled himself a hammy.

730
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: He can't play. Yeah, he didn't want to play in

731
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 4: that way. The other time. He was finishing up in

732
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 4: the in the Independent League, I think with the Newark Bears.

733
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 4: The Newark Bears on Long Island, and Claire Smith at

734
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 4: the Inquirer was on Baseball editor, remember Todd, and she said,

735
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 4: I would like you to go up and do a

736
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 4: story on Ricky Henderson. So I drove up to Long

737
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 4: Island because he was playing the Long Island Ducks. And

738
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 4: I go into the clubhouse and Ricky doesn't want to

739
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 4: talk to me. He's, you know, he's got a million

740
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 4: things going on, he's trying to get ready, he's got

741
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: he's got like a handler with him, like kind of

742
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 4: running interference. And I'm trying to convince him to give

743
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 4: me ten minutes. And I said, Ricky, I'll I come

744
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 4: up from Philly, you know. And again he's in the

745
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 4: Independent League looking to hang on. I say, I come

746
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 4: up from Philly, Ricky, you know, I cover the Phillies.

747
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 4: They might be looking for a leadoff man. And he goes,

748
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 4: what do you need? He was a fun player, a

749
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 4: great player man.

750
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: So so just there's so many different stories Rickey stories,

751
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: as you all know. Some of them fall, some of

752
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: them are true. But this one I actually witness with

753
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: my eyes. First major league spring training camp for me,

754
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: and I am I'm in big league camp. I think

755
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: it was nineteen ninety and I do believe he's with

756
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: the A's is either ninety or ninety.

757
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 3: One, and you're with the Angels.

758
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: And I'm with the Angels at the time, and I'm

759
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: scared poopless because they have on their team. They got Ricky,

760
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: they got Dave Henderson, they have Parney Lansford, they have

761
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: Mark McGuire, Conseko, I mean, Philip, Tony Philip. I mean,

762
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous whatever this line up like Steinbach White, Walt Wise.

763
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, oh my god, what am I

764
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: doing here? The best? And so I'm in camp and

765
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: I'm watching them take BP because i'm, you know, bright eyed,

766
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: bushy tailed. I want to see these guys take BP.

767
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, man, I'm sitting in there.

768
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the bench watching them take BP. At

769
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they get to like their last

770
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: couple of swings in the round of their round. And

771
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: Ricky Henderson was like the first guy who sort of,

772
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, used to pimp. He

773
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: was like the first guy at pimped home runs like

774
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 1: he would do things and make gestures. He was practicing

775
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: his pimping.

776
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 5: So he would hit a home run and he stepped

777
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 5: back and picking on himself and then around the dugout

778
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 5: and he actually did it a couple of times, man,

779
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 5: and they were practicing.

780
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 4: He was talking about it.

781
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: But you talk about talking some smack at the hitting

782
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: k batting cage, dude, that's when it was fun. Man.

783
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: It was a lot of chatter, a lot of crap talking.

784
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: But that was my very first impression of Ricky Henderson's

785
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: live and watching him take batting back. This man, he

786
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: was a beauty and boy was he fun to watch.

787
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: Power speed combination to the top of the lineup. And

788
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: I also wanted to say blessed to his family and

789
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: to and to Jimmy Rollins who sort of Jimmy Rollins

790
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: that was like his idol really were growing up because

791
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: Bay Area guy Jimmy grew up in the Bay Area.

792
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: I think it was somebody who sort of wanted to

793
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: emulate and had a lot of respect for him. And uh,

794
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: and I shot Jimmy a text about it, but and

795
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: a tweet or something in an instant but uh, you know,

796
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 1: my heart goes out to not just the family and

797
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: and all the teams that he touched, but uh, but

798
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: also to Jimmy because they meant a lot to him.

799
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: Well, when Jimmy won the MVP and seven, his family

800
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 4: had a like a block party in Alamedia. Yes, and

801
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 4: Ricky showed up.

802
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: Wow.

803
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, remember Jimmy tell me, I so remember.

804
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you remember that story, because I had

805
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: a vision in my mind, a story of Ricky Henderson

806
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: showing up at a family event. I could not remember

807
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: what it was, but that's exactly what it was.

808
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: Jimmy's father, Jimmy. Ricky grew up in the Oakland Era area,

809
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 4: and he had an old acquaintance with Jimmy's dad and

810
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 4: somebody he said, and Ricky, Like, I remember Jimmy telling

811
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 4: me about Ricky pulling up, and Jimmy really was impressed

812
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 4: with the rims on his Mercedes.

813
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: Benz always Stylan.

814
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a fun player to watch them and like

815
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: for me, like, you know, his peak years me were

816
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: like my peak years as a young baseball fan, you know,

817
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: like the early eighties, you know, just you know.

818
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: Just amazed when he took that lead off of first base.

819
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 4: It was a power lead. You can see his quads flexing.

820
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 4: He was like at full speed and two strides.

821
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: Amazing. He was amazing. He was not only like a

822
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: cat burglar, but he was also he was also an artist.

823
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: He was an artist. I mean, I really believe that

824
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: that the art of stealing a base and his ability.

825
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: Not only was he but he sort of reminded me

826
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: of Saquon Barkley, you know, taking the ball and having

827
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: the power and the speed and the know how and

828
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: the intelligence of being able to play their their positions.

829
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: And the one thing I remember that time, that one

830
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: time I got to speak to him, it was about

831
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: again the lost art of the stolen base, and he

832
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: basically the one thing I do remember him saying about

833
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: it is, I ain't scared of getting thrown out. Man.

834
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 3: You got it.

835
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 2: You cannot be scared when you're on first base trying

836
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: to steal a base. Man.

837
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: If you're scared, you're screwed. He's like burglar, man, I

838
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: ain't scared. I ain't scared of getting thrown out by anybody.

839
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: I don't care how who's behind the player, who's what

840
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: what the move is at first base or right on

841
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: the mound, you know. So Rubin is Christmas Honikah on Wednesday, right,

842
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: and big family time. You had a big, little family

843
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 2: moment last week. Do you want to tell us a.

844
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: Little bit about it? Fans about it? It was pretty cool, pretty.

845
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 1: Cool, pretty amazing. My partner's son, Am Sarver, who played

846
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: for Indiana University and was a two time All American,

847
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: was drafted by the in the MLS Super Draft by

848
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: none other than FC Dallas. So it's pretty cool. Forty

849
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: first pick. A great moment for the family, Really proud

850
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: of him, and uh boy, I hope it's a it's

851
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: a the start of a really wonderful soccer journey. He's

852
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: been living that soccer life since he's been like ten

853
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: or twelve or eight or whatever it is, and the

854
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: academy life and boyle boy's. It was a proud moment

855
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 1: for the family.

856
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: That's cool.

857
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 2: And then you get yeah, congratulations Laurie and you and

858
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: and and Sam. Of course, I mean, what was the

859
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: h did the draft you you went out to Cleveland

860
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: for it?

861
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 4: Or right?

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Speaker 1: Actually when we had like sort of a little family gathering. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's always very nerve wracking when it's what's

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Speaker 1: that you just don't know draft of the draft. I

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Speaker 1: tried to explain, you know, you just never know what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen in the draft. But it just hs

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Speaker 1: one scout to really love it on you. And when

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Speaker 1: they picked him, I guess one of the quotes they

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Speaker 1: said was, I can't believe you're still on the board

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Speaker 1: when we were picking. So that's awesome for forty first there.

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Speaker 1: I think they FC Dallas chose two defenders and one

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Speaker 1: forward and he was the forward they got. And boy,

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Speaker 1: this he's an exciting player, so we'll see hopefully. I

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Speaker 1: love him.

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Speaker 2: I love the video that you posted on social media

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Speaker 2: of him the FC Dallas calling him and his reaction.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I'm doing pretty good if I think this

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Speaker 2: is what this one calls about.

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Speaker 3: It was a great reaction.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's really nat man, you know, especially the

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Speaker 2: way that kind of blowing up and stuff.

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Speaker 3: That's that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: That's really cool.

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Speaker 3: You guys have any big plans for the holidays? What

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Speaker 3: are you guys cooking? I went today, I uh, I

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Speaker 3: picked up.

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Speaker 2: My Prime rib and that's when the news broke of

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Speaker 2: the Lozardo trade.

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Speaker 4: Cooking picked up a prime rib.

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Speaker 1: You picked up a prime.

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Speaker 3: Rib, exactly right, exactly right. So I'm looking forard to

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Speaker 3: the holidays.

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Speaker 1: It's awesome, man, nice, good to have the family. What

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Speaker 1: do you feel, Jam, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Just gonna hang loose, you know, chill a little bit,

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Speaker 4: you know, but you know, let it all happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, Judy, Tomorrow has the twenty fourth every year, so

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be about twenty five to thirty tomorrow slash perezes,

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Speaker 1: slash whatever family members. So we'll be singing Christmas carols

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Speaker 1: as we do every year. That is show up, come

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Speaker 1: on down, crash the bar, down to northeast Philly pal.

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Speaker 3: So I wanted to mention a couple of things before

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Speaker 3: we let you go.

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Speaker 2: One is, of course, Philly Show has T shirts now,

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Speaker 2: so if you want a Philly Show T shirt, I'm

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Speaker 2: sporting one and they're pretty sweet. I go to the

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Speaker 2: Phillyshow dot com. You can pick up a Philly Show

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Speaker 2: T shirt. And it is the holidays. Christmas is Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: but we will be back Thursday morning. Last week we

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00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: sat down well zoom wise set. We sat down and

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00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: had a nice long chat with Billy Wagner, former Phillies

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Speaker 2: closer Billy Wagner.

913
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Speaker 3: We had a lot of fun talking with Billy.

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Speaker 2: Sharing some great stories quoding, including one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: stories of all time, Baseball stories of all time, which

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Speaker 2: includes Billy Wagner and Jim Salisbury.

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Speaker 3: I'll I wanted no spoilers, but I was.

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was tangentially involved, but yes, I was involved.

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Speaker 3: And Ruben was there as well.

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Speaker 4: You were the only one that was injured.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was the only one injured in the in

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Speaker 2: this story. But that that that's gonna be Thursday morning.

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00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: So when you're taken back the uh the tie that

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Speaker 2: you got from your your sister that you don't like,

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Speaker 2: and you're like, oh my god, and you're running running

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Speaker 2: Eron's on the day after Christmas through on the Philly Show,

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Speaker 2: listen to us a chat with Billy Wagner.

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Speaker 3: That was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: So check that out and then we'll be back, of

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Speaker 2: course the following week with I guess whatever else is

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Speaker 2: going on the fight more news.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you never know.

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Speaker 2: So Merry Christmas, happy how We'll be back Thursday, see

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Speaker 2: you guys.

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Speaker 4: Happy holidays, guys, Smellilator.

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Speaker 1: Happy Honeka guys, and Merry Christmas, Smell you.

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