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Speaker 1: And who was it? Um? John Kerry was in the

424
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: in the press today and he's like, you know, what

425
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: scares the hell out of me, because if this is true,

426
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: what it means is we don't have a president because

427
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: the president can say whatever he wants and the people

428
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: around him in the National Security Council just do whatever

429
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: the funk they want, you know, So, so and there,

430
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: and those people in the NSC were not elected. Trump

431
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: was one who was elected with his running mate Mike Pence.

432
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 1: They were elected. Um, but these other people, these bureaucrats

433
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: in the National Security Council, we're not elected. So it's like,

434
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 1: who the funk is in charge? But I mean, then,

435
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: do you do you think that op ed is is

436
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: uh the real McCoy? Do you take that at face value?

437
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: So all these different questions, what do you do you

438
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: think it was a low level person trying to drum

439
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: up some craziness or um no, no, I think it's

440
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: it's somebody. It probably is somebody, um, fairly high up

441
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: in the National Security Council who is just frustrated and

442
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: angry and upset with the way things have gone down. Yeah,

443
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 1: well we'll see I know that that that um you know,

444
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: who knows. But on Twitter today they were showing the

445
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson said he's like fairly certain who did it,

446
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: and they've been reaching out, but a lot of people

447
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: could say they're fairly certain if you did this, we'll

448
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: see And it all seems kind of. It all coincides

449
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: very nicely with a controversy around the Bob Woodward book

450
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: that is coming out, which apparently is quite damning. Um

451
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: is it all coordinated? I don't know, yeah, um, And

452
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: the only other big piece of news I saw today. UM.

453
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anything else you want to

454
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: get into. Um, but in India major you know, just

455
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: I would say gay rights, human rights victory. Um that

456
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 1: basically gay sex was illegal in India. They're now striking

457
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: that down. So the gay community in India, I know,

458
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: it's very happy about it. And and worldwide, I mean,

459
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: because that is that's a big deal, that's a big ruling. Yeah.

460
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: Well you sense that India is um kind of at

461
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: this like cultural and historic moment um, like a pivot point.

462
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: I guess, um, you know, as they develop as a country,

463
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: all the stuff that's come out about women's rights in India, Um,

464
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: the courts kind of covering up rape, um and kind

465
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: of re victimizing rape victims. Um. So hopefully they're slowly

466
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: but surely straightening things out. UM. But I don't know

467
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: enough about Indian politics to know I helped to comment

468
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, I figured I would mention it though,

469
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: because that is a big that's a big land mark change.

470
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: Before we get to Jackie Gray, who's the former Army

471
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: medic and executive director of the Red Circle Foundation. I

472
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: was just wondering if you want to mention anything else

473
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: about the change from news you know to news Rap,

474
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: and also like what stopp you're currently working on for

475
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: the site. Now that you're back, finally people are happy

476
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: to have you back. So I mean, there's uh, not

477
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: a whole lot is changing. I mean, like I said,

478
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: news Rap is really uh a name that we went

479
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: to just to reflect what we were already doing on

480
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: the website. I think we are going to cover, um,

481
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: some financial news. We already started to do that actually,

482
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: which is kind of new and we we hadn't necessarily

483
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: done that previously. There's a writer doing finance, right, there's two,

484
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: there's two actually. UM SOFTWAREP Radio remains as is. We're

485
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: gonna keep chugging along on this. UM. As far as

486
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: what I'm working on, UM, I'm continuing to work on

487
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: a pretty interesting store or that I've actually been working

488
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: on for a long time, and I've probably mentioned it

489
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: before here, but I'm hoping to wrap that up and

490
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: then UM. I'm also revisiting an old soft Rep story

491
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: because I'm putting the finishing touches on my memoir. So

492
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: the last couple of days, I've been revisiting the story

493
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: I wrought I wrote UM a few years back about

494
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: UM a sexual predator in the hundred and first Airborne Division. UM,

495
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: a squad leader who's victimizing the soldiers in his platoon.

496
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: And so I'm going back through all of my old notes,

497
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: the court martial transcripts. UM. It's uh, it's probably one

498
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: of the more gnarly stories I've ever worked on, and

499
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: it's the one that's stuck with me, probably quite frankly,

500
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: UM a lot of it because one of my sources,

501
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: UM died while I was writing that article. Oh yeah,

502
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah. He Uh. The family never disclosed

503
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: UM exactly what happened, but it was heavily heavily speculated

504
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: what happened from what I remember. Yeah, I mean I

505
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: think he passed away UM because he was struggling um

506
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: with the trauma of what had happened to him because

507
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: the army had his chain of command had sold him

508
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: out and betrayed him and many other soldiers as well. Um.

509
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: It was a systematic failure within that unit. Um. But anyway,

510
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: if you want to go read the article, I think

511
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: it's called band of Brothers, sex crimes and cover up. UM.

512
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: It's uh, it was. It was a tough one to

513
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: work on, A tough one or right, but even tougher

514
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: for the soldiers who went through that bullshit. UM, just

515
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: completely nuts. But anyway, so I've been revisiting that topic

516
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: um to write about and it's not that article, but

517
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, related to it. I would love to get

518
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: the guy on the podcast who you know, went forward

519
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: about what was going on at the v A, which

520
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say who it was. Technically he's

521
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: been on the podcast for a few minutes and you

522
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: know he would I'd love to get him to speak

523
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: about it because I think it's it's something that needs

524
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: to be I could ask um. You know a lot

525
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: of times addressed. A lot of times victims don't want

526
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: to go on the record because not because they're afraid

527
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: to talk about it, um, But they don't want to

528
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: be known as like I'm the guy who got my

529
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: balls fondled. You know, no one wants to be the

530
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: Actually believe he referenced on Facebook that like, hey, this

531
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: trial is over. You know, I'm glad, Like I'm pretty

532
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: sure he wrote a staff maybe, but that's a little

533
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: bit different than going on a soft Wrap podcast and saying,

534
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, I got my dick fondled or I got

535
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: my balls fondled by this asshole. Um. You know, when

536
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: people have careers and they're trying to you know, create

537
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: a life for themselves, they don't necessarily want to be

538
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: the guy that. Yeah, now I get that. I understand

539
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: that he's a great dude too. Yeah, no, he really is. Um.

540
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: That was That was another that really horrific story that

541
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: that asshole at v A, who's who's molesting all these

542
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 1: male soldiers? Just like what the fuck? And And by

543
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: the way, that's another angle why it should come out,

544
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: because I do think, you know, there's rightfully a lot

545
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: of attention on sexual abuse of women, but it is

546
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: not just purely you know, it just it is mainly

547
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: a problem that occurs with women, but there are people

548
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: like this individual what we're talking. Yeah, yeah, well I UM,

549
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: when I was writing that story about the the guy

550
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: in the hundred and first, I asked the Pentagon for

551
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: some statistics about UM male versus female victims of sexual assault,

552
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: and UM, it's interesting because there are, it is, more

553
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: women than men, UM, but women report much more often. UM.

554
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: Men don't report as often. UM. I think because there's

555
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: such a stigma. Socially, we understand and and we accept

556
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: that a woman can be raped by a man. We

557
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: know this is a real thing, it happens, UM. But

558
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: when it comes to a man raping another man, now

559
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: all these other questions get asked. You know, that their

560
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: accusations that the person that the victim was a homosexual,

561
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: that they were asking for it. I mean that's the

562
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: way we may have treated women decades ago, Like if

563
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: they came in and they were raped, Like, oh, you

564
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: were asking for it, why didn't you say no? Why

565
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: don't you just unfortunately, why didn't fight back? Yeah? Which

566
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: is still you know, there's still those people out there.

567
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: Why why were you wearing this? Actually this is kind

568
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: of still it still happens. Yeah. I don't know if

569
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: you saw the funeral for a wreath of Franklin with

570
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: that kind of groping ariana Grande, Yeah, and people saying like,

571
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: why didn't you do anything right there? And you know,

572
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: you don't know in that position, You're on stage in

573
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: front of tons of people. It's a weird scenario. But

574
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: he clearly was being inappropriate. And while the story I

575
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: wrote is that the um the soldiers were being abused

576
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: in Afghanistan in combat and I mean I mean literally

577
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: they were like going outside the wire doing combat patrols

578
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: all the time. Their base was getting bombarded by mortar

579
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: fire every day. So I mean, think about you have

580
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: to prioritize, like do I deal with this sexual assault

581
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: stuff or do I deal with fucking Johnny Gihad that's

582
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: trying to kill me? You know. So that's just an

583
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: additional kind of friction that exists. And it didn't help,

584
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: of course that the perpetrator was actually a competent squad

585
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: leader and like in combat he was everyone told me,

586
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: even people who hated him were like he was fearless

587
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: and he was competent. He made sure people did their job.

588
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: He would run and run towards the sound of the guns.

589
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he did his job. Um It was when

590
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: they got back to the base that things became completely inappropriate.

591
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 1: Crazy man, and any other stories that you're a couple, um,

592
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: a couple of different stories, UM, A couple of things

593
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: that have been brewing for a long time that i'd

594
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: like to I'd like to wrap up the most the

595
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: most important stories are always the ones that take a

596
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, and and are really hard to hammer down. Um.

597
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: But you know, you just keep working on them and

598
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: working on them until you have some kind of breakthrough. Um.

599
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: But hopefully we'll have some other interesting stuff coming. Cool.

600
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we have Jackie Gray standing by, so

601
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna get right to him, former Army medic and

602
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 1: executive director of the Red Circle Foundation. Let's dial him up.

603
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: So joining us for the first time on SOFTWAP Radio

604
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: is Jackie Gray. Jack is a former Army medic and

605
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: executive director of the Red Circle Foundation. We haven't really

606
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: talked Red Circle Foundation in a while, but there's been

607
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: um some changes, and I know that you're you're pretty

608
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: newly on board there, right, Jack, I am. I've been

609
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: here with the Red Circle roughly nine months now. Very

610
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: cool man. Well, before we get into like what's going

611
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: on with Red Circle Foundation. I think it'd be interesting

612
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: to get into your background UM as an army medic

613
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: and joining the army and all that. Yeah, UM join

614
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: the army right after college UM back in two thousand

615
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: and eight, UM stayed enlisted. I decided to go and

616
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: the enlisted route. I wanted to be a Mustang UM

617
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: and then eventually commissioned, but I never ended up commissioning UM.

618
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: I went through basic at Fort Knox UM w d A.

619
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: I t down to Fort sam and then got to

620
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: go to jump school and then got placed at JB

621
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: lm UM and Tacoma, Washington, and then finished my active

622
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: duty stent and went into the Oregon National Guard UM

623
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: and then finished out the rest of my army career there.

624
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: UM spent a total of about ten years. And yeah,

625
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 1: that was pretty much my army in a nutshell. So then,

626
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: how did you make the transition from the army into

627
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: what you're doing now and into nonprofits and all that. UM.

628
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: I kind of just fell into it, honestly. I has

629
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: started working with my old high school and went in

630
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: for helped out doing some volunteer work and helped out

631
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: with them and kind of fell into you know, asking

632
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: them if they had a mentorship program and then started

633
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: UM their mentorship program and turned it into a nonprofit.

634
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how I kind of fell into

635
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: the nonprofit realm. And then, UM, while that was going on, UM,

636
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: a buddy of mine was in a conversation with the

637
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: vice chairman for Red Circle and and they were they

638
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: were looking for somebody to come in and help out

639
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: and kind of refixed with the restructure that was going on,

640
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: and he mentioned me, and I got in contact with them,

641
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: and then I kind of just went from there. Can

642
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: you talk a little bit then about what the Red

643
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: Circle Foundation does, because I know you guys do a

644
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 1: lot of awesome work. Yeah, I mean well, Red Circle

645
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: Foundation obviously we started back in two thousand twelve. M.

646
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: We do a lot of work with the special operation

647
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: community and their families. UM. We do a lot of

648
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: emergency gap funding, UH, financial assistance, UM helping with medical

649
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: equipment and devices that Try Care and other insurance companies

650
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: cannot don't cover, and what the families can afford themselves. UM.

651
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: We've been doing a lot of academic and enrichment scholarships

652
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: for their kids and their families. UM, helping out sending

653
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: the kids to camps, getting them, you know, active in

654
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: the community as well, and that's pretty much very cool. Man.

655
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: Did you have any UM, because I know Brandon was

656
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: telling me you might have some stories in particular of

657
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: some families you guys have been helping out. I do.

658
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: I have a few. UM. Most recently, I mean we

659
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: helped out uh SF Guy UM. He got hurt overseas

660
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, was shot actually in the head with an RPGA,

661
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: had his right side of his skull removed UM by

662
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: the shrapnel and had several surgeries to repair it. UM

663
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: he had issues with the vestible system and it's purtigo,

664
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: which caused issues with him laying on his back and

665
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't able to sleep, so tried care. I was

666
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: trying to do whatever they can and UM couldn't afford

667
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: to buy him a bed, so they gave us a

668
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: call and we bought him a bed to help him

669
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: sleep that was prescribed by the doctor. UM. Another story

670
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: we worked just recently had an assack Guy UM a

671
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: p J. UM got injured during training. UM had some surgeries,

672
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: got hooked on the pain meds, got addicted and went

673
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: into rehab, went through all the VA's rehab as well

674
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: and wasn't working out, got into a Christian found funded

675
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: rehabilitation center and has been going through that, and we

676
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: actually helped out with his family with helping him go

677
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: through the rehab with them. Um. And then, by the way,

678
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: that's like such an unfortunate one that you hear about

679
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: so much, and it's just this the cycle that happens,

680
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: I think with veterans of getting prescribed um, you know,

681
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: to legitimate prescriptions and then getting hooked on That happens

682
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, Opium opiates are very very tough

683
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: and very dangerous. I mean, you know, obviously they're the

684
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: number one addictive drug right now going on. So that's

685
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: the issue with a lot of these guys when they

686
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: go through these procedures and stuff. So it sucks and

687
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: it's really sad to hear, but we're doing where we

688
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: can to try to help them and you know, get

689
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: them back on their feet. So absolutely, yeah. I had

690
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: some other stories. I got actually one of the testimonials

691
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: from a soldier who we recently helped. He was a

692
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: Seventh Group guy. UM, he kind of sent us a

693
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: letter and kind of just wanted me to read it

694
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: out to you guys, if you guys don't mind me. UM,

695
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: his wife was diagnosed with stage four cancer. UM. He

696
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: was still enlisted, was a senior listed at the academy

697
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: at so Calm. UM. She had an incredibly rare disease.

698
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: It was very aggressive and that typically was a very

699
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: and they had a poor diagnosis and prognosis, and they

700
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: didn't give him a short lifespan. UM, but the family

701
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: dug in and they started the fight. UM try Care,

702
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: which is great, was only able to cover us so much.

703
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: They gave us a call and they were constantly driving

704
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: back up fourth hours away from their home to the

705
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: hospital where the cancer treatment was getting taken care of. UM,

706
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: and it just started hindering. His wallet contact is so Calm,

707
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: and so Calm coordinated them with us and since then

708
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: we've been helping him out, working with him to being

709
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: able to transfer his wife and him and his also

710
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: his daughter. All they all got diagnosed with cancer, all

711
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: but roughly within the last couple of years. Is that

712
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: like environmentally induced, like something on the base could be

713
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: Who knows, UM, I don't. I wouldn't say that could

714
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: have been genetics to UH with their financial struggles, I

715
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: mean I mean when you go from one to the

716
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: next and to the next, and you know, it starts

717
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: to hit that wallet really hard, especially you know when

718
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: being in the military and our budgets and our our

719
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: wallets aren't that big in the first place. So that's insane.

720
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: So we're helping them getting their find you know, family

721
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: back on their feet, helping them, uh, continue their fight,

722
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: and making sure the trial drugs work for his wife

723
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: and you know, continue on and supporting them. And so

724
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: he sent me this and just wanted me to kind

725
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: of just tell you guys what we do for him,

726
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: and this is what it looks like from coming from

727
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: a soldier's perspective. Yeah, that's insane. I'm glad you guys

728
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: are out there doing that though. It is great. I

729
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: mean we're so small and which which I feel is

730
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: kind of one of our forts because it allows us

731
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: to kind of just get more personal with the soldiers

732
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: and family, is that we're helping out as the bigger

733
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: nonprofits is kind of more of like a runthrough, I feel,

734
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: where you just kind of pushed through with paperwork and

735
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: onto the next kind of thing. Yeah. Man, um, So

736
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: from what we were talking about when I just spoke

737
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: to you for the first time the other day. Um,

738
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: you were saying there's also some events coming up that

739
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: that you'll be holding soon. Yeah, definitely. Uh, well, I

740
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: can kind of go briefly. This year. Since I'm in

741
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: the Portland, Oregon area, I've been trying to do a

742
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: lot of more local outreach as well as nationwide. Um.

743
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: Are there a lot of vets in Portland or Oregon

744
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: in general? Yeah? Actually Oregon. From last statistics that I've read,

745
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: there are more people in the military from Oregon than

746
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: any other state according to this statistic. But I don't

747
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: know how accurate that might be. But um, there's no

748
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: active basis in Oregon. There's only garden Reserve bases here. Um,

749
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: but very pro military state. But they don't know out

750
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: about Red Circle. So I've been trying to do a

751
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: lot of REA reaching out here. UM. Got to do

752
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: work with not another nonprofit that works with veterans and

753
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: taking them out hunting and fishing. We helped out at

754
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: their benefit. Um is that? Um, because I I've heard

755
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: of a few charities like that. You do you know

756
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: what it was? It was the Falling Outdoors. Okay, that's

757
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: not the one I was thinking of. But yeah, there

758
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: seems to be a few UM charities that do that,

759
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: which is really cool. Yeah, and these guys are a

760
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: great bunch of guys. UM. Actually, the treasuries are currently

761
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: still active. UM. He was a buddy of mine and

762
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: he was the one who brought me on and he

763
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: was like, hey, you should come out to the benefit.

764
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: There'll be some SF guys, some ranger dudes out here

765
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: if you want to get them involved, here's the way

766
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: to do it. We went out to their benefit. Was great. UM.

767
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: That was back in June. I did the Portland Vancouver

768
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: the Reverend Warriors Silky March I k I marched that

769
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: in representation for Red Circle. UM. We did a lot

770
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: of work with the minor league baseball team this last

771
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: this last summer UM, they had their Salute Service Week.

772
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: We were out there with the booth and then got

773
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: to go on and do some interviews UM. And then

774
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: coming up we have the Warrior Care Coalition Conference in

775
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Tampa in November, as well as another TFO banquet which

776
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: is their national banquet, which will be in October. UM.

777
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: And then I'll be up in New York in December

778
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: with your guys as the Hurricanes benefit and then um,

779
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: I did some work. Oh, I did some work recently

780
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: with the Seahawks. Seattle Seahawks went up to their training

781
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: camp and did some i'll reach with them and kind

782
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: of got to let those guys know kind of what

783
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: we do and who we are as well. So yeah,

784
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: a lot of great things going on. We got Heroes

785
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,479
Speaker 1: Holiday coming up, which is where we sponsor a couple

786
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: of families Special Operation families who are in need and

787
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: we take care of their you know, their full holiday

788
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,960
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789
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: food to the decorations, the tree, the presidence and everything

790
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: like that. So very cool man, Yes, staying busy. So

791
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: um if people want to check out Red Circle Foundation,

792
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: it's Red Circle Foundation dot org. Um good having you on, man,

793
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: I Like I said, um, it was the first time

794
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,240
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795
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: was like, you gotta have Jackie on. So I I

796
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,640
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797
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,440
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798
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: any time. Man, definitely. But I appreciate you guys having

799
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800
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,600
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801
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,080
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802
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,600
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803
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804
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805
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806
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807
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Speaker 1: um with that man As you were mentioning earlier in

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Speaker 1: the intro, your book coming out very soon. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to that. Well not very soon, y okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: so wait, what's the actual release date? Uh? According to

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Speaker 1: Amazon Apri, is that what it's at. I mean, people

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Speaker 1: are pre ordering for to come out of ap I'll

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Speaker 1: ask my publisher and find out. You think that might

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Speaker 1: get pushed back a little, you're saying, I don't know. Cool,

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Speaker 1: all right, Well, um, from what you were saying though,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like the book is just about done. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the manuscript is just about done. Um and uh, and

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Speaker 1: then we'll do the final selection I guess on the

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Speaker 1: picture inserts, um and all. That's all the associated stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know. I'm excited to get it out there.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of information in the book. There's just

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. I mean all the stuff I

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Speaker 1: did in the military, and then all this stuff, A

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Speaker 1: lot of this stuff I did as a journalist and

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Speaker 1: traveling Syria, traveling to Iraq, even some stuff going to

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Speaker 1: the Philippines, UM, South Korea and the d m Z

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Speaker 1: in there. I can't remember if I wrote about that

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Speaker 1: or not. Um, so all kinds of different ship. It's

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Speaker 1: a it's gonna be there's a lot of material in there,

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00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,959
Speaker 1: and uh, it's definitely going to be different than other

872
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Speaker 1: military memoirs. I'm excited for a man. As we often say,

873
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: pre orders matter, so go on Amazon pre order. Um.

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00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: You know what, I've noticed the emails slowing down because

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00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 1: I think Jack has not been here. So I could

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00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: answer radio questions all day, but when it comes to

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00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: specifics of special operations military stuff, you guys know, I

878
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: don't have any answer to a lot of that. So

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00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: email us again if you have those type of questions

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00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: that Jack could answer. It's soft Rep dot radio at

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Speaker 1: soft rep dot com. Soft Rep dot Radio at soft

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Speaker 1: rep dot com. Uh, next episode is actually gonna fall

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Speaker 1: on UM. I believe it would normally fall on nine twelve,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna try to Yeah, I'm gonna try to

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Speaker 1: get it up on nine eleven and revisit Brandon Webin

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00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: I visiting the UM eleven Memorial exhibit, which was great, Um,

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00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, it was a touching experience, and also hearing

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Speaker 1: the words from the victims families and just getting a

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Speaker 1: tour of of all of that architecture that was there

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Speaker 1: from the towers. We went with a guy who was

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Speaker 1: a firefighter at the time who experienced all of it.

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Speaker 1: Lost guys. Um, So if you never heard that, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna re air that, and then the next guest will

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Speaker 1: be Sean Parnell, former Navy seal. So it'll be a

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Speaker 1: good week of shows. Um, and good to have you back, man.

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Speaker 1: I've been holding it down myself, which has gotten a

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Speaker 1: little boring after Well, you did a good job though,

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Speaker 1: I mean I saw some of the stuff you were doing.

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Speaker 1: I mean you had some super cool guests on. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Hoist Gracy C. J. Woodrooff was cool, as I said,

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Speaker 1: Pat mcnamarish on The Butcher, and then you know, just

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Speaker 1: writers that we've regularly had on like Luke Ryan, Alex

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00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: Hollings and um, Kurt Schroeder all those guys. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: glad to be home, though, I mean, had an awesome summer,

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Speaker 1: can't complain. Yeah that is, that's a pretty epic summer

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Speaker 1: and your daughter is probably gonna remember forever. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean she had a great time. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: mean she basically had two vacations because she she went

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Speaker 1: with me to Switzerland and Sardinia and then she went

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Speaker 1: with her mom to the Mall dives. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think she's she's well traveled. She's back in school today, Yeah, today,

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Speaker 1: the first day yesterday was cool. She's probably like I

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Speaker 1: don't want to go back. That's how I always was.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, she starts complaining, and she starts complaining because

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Speaker 1: you know, they do a lot of work now in school. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: At a certain point though, it's also like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you want to see your friends and all that type

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Speaker 1: of thing, and yeah, not hanging out with these old people.

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Speaker 1: So all right, Well, thanks for checking out as always, guys, UM,

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Speaker 1: please check out that next show. Um, if you've never

921
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Speaker 1: visited the A nine and nine eleven Moral Exhibit, you

922
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: really should. But I think this will give you like

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Speaker 1: an inside perspective of what's there. I really enjoyed visiting there. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll talk about it on the show, but

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Speaker 1: I remember we've talked about where we were when the

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Speaker 1: Trade Center, Um, you know, when when the plane hit

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Speaker 1: the Trade Center. But I was here on Long Island,

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Speaker 1: and I remember seeing the smoke from the towers and stuff,

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Speaker 1: and I remember losing family friends that day and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's something that every American really should

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Speaker 1: visit if you're here in New York. Um, and you'll

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Speaker 1: like the show. I think if if that was a

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Speaker 1: day that either you know, it's so from the age

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Speaker 1: range of this show, Like there's people who experienced it

935
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Speaker 1: the same way that we did, and then there's these

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Speaker 1: younger kids who were like seventeen eighteen the lists and

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00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: who really did experience it. I mean, it's it's hard

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Speaker 1: to believe how long it's been. So the war has

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Speaker 1: just been going on as long as every Yep. Yeah crazy.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, um, have a great weekend, guys, we're out.

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Speaker 1: You've been listening to Self Rep Radio. New episodes up

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