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Speaker 1: Welcome to this episode The Debo and Joel. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: James Debo Harrison, and here's my co host, Joe Hayden.

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Speaker 1: Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't

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Speaker 1: want to miss nothing. Man, listen, I'm feeling a whole

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Speaker 1: lot better right now. Last week was a little hectic,

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Speaker 1: but I want to let you know, Joe, I got

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Speaker 1: a hard out of twelve. I gotta give my son

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Speaker 1: to the very chamber to heal him up.

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Speaker 2: Bro Okay, respect, respect my son.

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Speaker 1: Today September ninth is my oldest boy, Joseph Ali Hayden,

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Speaker 1: the fourth ninth birthday.

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Speaker 2: He turns nine years old today.

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Speaker 1: Let's go come on man, Hey, birthday, Joe, thank you shout.

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Speaker 1: I was hectic last week, baby. I had two surgeries

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Speaker 1: last week, Bro, he had a lot going on. We

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Speaker 1: both served. My youngest son had a surgery. Sorry, My

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Speaker 1: oldest son had a surgery on Wednesday, and my oldest

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Speaker 1: son he had a surgery on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Like it's like it was fine. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So my my son James, he did like a slap

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Speaker 1: tear in his.

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Speaker 2: In thisscusy, go how's he doing? Oh? It went good.

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Speaker 2: It was good.

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Speaker 1: And then my oldest most sorry, my youngest son, he

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Speaker 1: did he blew out his his labor minutes in his shoulder.

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Speaker 2: Dude. It's crazy, dude, it's you know what, Let me

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Speaker 2: rewind this.

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Speaker 1: So my oldest has had three surgeries in fourteen months. Dude,

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Speaker 1: likeplications of the other surgeries.

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Speaker 2: No, dude, you know what, this our show? The hell

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Speaker 2: with it. I'm going somewhere else with this. So let's

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Speaker 2: start back at the beginning.

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Speaker 1: So my son, the oldest, he's playing ball his freshman year.

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Speaker 2: Everything's going good.

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Speaker 1: He gets into his sophomore year and you know, I

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Speaker 1: like to take my kids with me out to a

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Speaker 1: z to train, so I take him with me out there.

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Speaker 1: We come back his sophomore year. He as soon as

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Speaker 1: he gets back, he does like a hinkle spring, so

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Speaker 1: he sprinds his ankle. He doesn't take the time to

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Speaker 1: heal it, and he goes back out there and he

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Speaker 1: plays on it. So the second game of the season,

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Speaker 1: he goes out there and he actually like tears two

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Speaker 1: of the ligaments in his ankle and he blows his

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Speaker 1: sc joint, his sternal curvicular joint.

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Speaker 2: Right where is that, dude, It's right here. It's right here.

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Speaker 1: So we actually got lucky with that process because it

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Speaker 1: went it went and tier instead of posterior, I believe,

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Speaker 1: because if that went the other way, then you know

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Speaker 1: you have a chance of it like hitting like his caroate, artery, juggler,

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Speaker 1: vein all that stuff right, getting bad. It's getting it's

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Speaker 1: getting bad, right, I don't know that that is what

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Speaker 1: has happened, you know. So he's he's not starting as

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Speaker 1: see him.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, you can't move like you need to go.

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Speaker 1: You know, I need to take you to get in him,

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Speaker 1: all right, right, And he's like, no, no, no, I'll

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Speaker 1: be all right. You know, I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to get an MRI. I don't want to mispractice.

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Speaker 2: I don't you know.

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Speaker 1: I don't want the coaches, you know, saying nothing. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'll let you make that decision. So as

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Speaker 1: the season goes on, we don't know. Like I said

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Speaker 1: about the s C and I have my chiropractic come in.

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Speaker 1: My chiropractor comes in every every so often, and he's like, hey, James,

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Speaker 1: and man, you need to. You need to look at this.

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Speaker 1: His s C is just circling. It's popping in and out.

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Speaker 1: So look at it. He played. After that, we don't

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Speaker 1: know he did it. He thought he had a stinger.

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Speaker 1: He's like, I gotta you know I got a stinger.

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 1: He said, I tweaked my ankle. I'm like great, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you ain't tweak your ankle. I'm like, you can't move.

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing him Saturday. I'm like, dude, you can't move

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Speaker 1: like you You're looking bad. I told him, I said,

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Speaker 1: going to get MRI on your ankle too. Right, So

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Speaker 1: we get to MRI. Come to find out he has

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Speaker 1: all he you know, he really does, he really does.

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Speaker 1: So we we talked to him and you know, Jane

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Speaker 1: really wants to continue to play, and he's like, dude,

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Speaker 2: You, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So you know that now I think it's right before

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Speaker 1: and till the coach a I'm pulling him. He can't

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a game or two before the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: They going to the playoffs, they get to the championship game,

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Speaker 2: Up losing their their runners up.

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Speaker 1: So by this time, we're done figured out that James

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Speaker 1: has to get this surgery. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: It's no other choice. And it's a nine month timeframe.

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Speaker 1: So he done missed half sophomore year. He's gonna miss

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Speaker 2: And and now you know, we know he has.

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Speaker 1: To get the the rastic surgery in July, and he's

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Speaker 1: fast forward. He done lost so much weight, doe, he's

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Speaker 2: Come on.

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Speaker 1: So his first day right right, right, So it's first

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Speaker 1: The coach looks at him and says, hey, are you

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Speaker 1: all right? He says, you know, he said, well, if

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Speaker 1: that popped off. So I teach my kids don't say

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Speaker 1: nothing to a dogs James one on head. If you

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Speaker 1: three years. See, I'm a parent, and I'm like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna sit back. I'm gonna stay out

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Speaker 1: all that other stuff, right, I'm gonna sit back. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do all that. So now he's telling me. From

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Speaker 1: been saying to him, you know, hey man, you need

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Speaker 1: to do more, all this other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Do they not know about his injury? No? No, no,

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Speaker 2: So so we can't blame. We can't blame.

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Speaker 1: We can't blame. We can't blame them for that if

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Speaker 1: But I go ahead and I'm like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: Like if that thing went the other way, we wouldn't

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Speaker 1: that's going to end this whole Junior year tells him,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I think you could have You could

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Speaker 1: So so I'm telling the coach this we're going in

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Speaker 1: I will be active. I will be present, I will be.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I will be present.

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Speaker 1: So from that point forward, like I was already going,

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Speaker 1: I got to work on this ankle every day because

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Speaker 1: it's things that the normal training room is not going

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Speaker 1: to do for they don't even know to do. So

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Speaker 1: fast forward again, we get into his first game back

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Speaker 1: his senior year. He ain't played in the last you know,

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Speaker 1: two years basically, and he done miss half his sophomore,

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Speaker 2: It's game one. Dude.

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Speaker 1: We get into game one and I ain't even lie.

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Speaker 1: I ain't never told my son he was he was.

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Speaker 2: He was good. But I was like, son, he was,

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Speaker 2: you know, he was doing good. He was doing good. Dude.

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Speaker 2: Now the second.

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Speaker 1: Half comes and he goes to cut and it's alignment

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Speaker 2: He's trying to make the tackle.

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Speaker 1: He actually makes the tackle and his knee just bow

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Speaker 1: it bowls out right so at that same time, he

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back to that.

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Speaker 1: So he goes and you know, I kind of see

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Speaker 1: the next play and I'm like, he ain't moving right now.

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Speaker 1: I know when my son ain't moving. Two three plays later,

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Speaker 2: Some want you.

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Speaker 1: I come down there and he's like, you know, my

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Speaker 2: But let's go. Let's get to the football. Baby. We

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Speaker 1: Know what, it ain't even the Vikings man, It's another

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Speaker 1: Man? This one I'm trying to tell you, James, You're

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Speaker 2: Ready to jump on the bandwagon. Who he had met?

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Speaker 1: Look it looked nice, right What nothing that the really

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Everything is ad living.

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Speaker 1: He's moving, he's scrambling, he's getting around, he's extending plays.

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Speaker 2: Nothing's really too simple for him.

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Speaker 2: Up on him. He was not not don't give me

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Speaker 1: JJD McCarthy played like Aaron Rodgers or any of those

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Speaker 2: He didn't work at all, not even Clay. Don't do that,

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00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 2: not even Cloak. I got I'm just heard, I said.

433
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying McCarthy, Ja j. He did what he had

434
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 1: to do to end up winning the game. In the

435
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, they scored twenty one points. He did those drives.

436
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 1: I'm not at the beginning of the game. That was

437
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: sub par. That was sub par for sure, But the

438
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,479
Speaker 1: Bears could have extended their lead, they could have won,

439
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 1: they could have figured it out. But when it got

440
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 1: to the end, when it got to the gritty, he

441
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: scored three touchdowns when they needed to get those touchdowns

442
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: and get out of the stadium, and the Bears found

443
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 1: a way to for nakel it and to lose it.

444
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: So my question, dude, them boys only had like a

445
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: seven percent chance of winning with one thirty four left

446
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: in the third quarter was seventeen sixteen, the fourth quarter

447
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 1: twenty one, fourth quarter twenty one points, brother twenty one.

448
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: So I just love.

449
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to I'm not praising like

450
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 1: he played amazing. The first quarters were not all that

451
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: in any stretch. He didn't do not fifty some yards

452
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,160
Speaker 1: interception of pick six.

453
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 2: But in that fourth it needed to be done.

454
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: He did whatever whatever that halftime message was that O'Connell

455
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: told JJ man bro like, I want to know what

456
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 1: he said, Like, listen.

457
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: He still came He came out of half and still

458
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 2: threw the pick six.

459
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: Hey, you know came out speech pick six boom.

460
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 2: All right, we're still doing hey, listen, happen.

461
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 1: You got here, you go throw this pick six and

462
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: then you gonna take then you're gonna come back even better.

463
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 2: That for real?

464
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: You like, what's what's your best halftime speech you ever had?

465
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 1: Or did you even need that? The best halftime speech

466
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: I ever had? That was in college by Tim Tebow.

467
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: When we hear that a lot, t BO got words,

468
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: t BO got words, t BO got bars, and t

469
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: BO means when he say and that's why Rocker with

470
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: TBO was on, He's like, you mean, look at me,

471
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: We're the best sixty minutes for the rest of our lives,

472
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: for the rest of our lives. That was That's free game,

473
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: the best halftime speech.

474
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 2: I've ever had.

475
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: You thought you thought you thought them sixty minutes after that,

476
00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: y'all was just dead.

477
00:22:59,359 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 2: That's all the bad.

478
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: That's all we had. I was gonna give him all

479
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: I had because I know he's gonna give me all

480
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: he had. Oh, no question, I think I think. I

481
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: think t BO was like the coldest college quarterback area.

482
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: I mean pros it is something different, you know what

483
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's a totally different that's a totally different

484
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: monster over there. Like dude, Caleb he just I think

485
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: he helped everything that they did, dude, Like first quarter, fire,

486
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: second quarter up, fourth, third quarter, Uh, fourth quarter, dude, dude,

487
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 1: I think the last three quarters, dude, when what.

488
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: It was a couple of passes in the fourth I'm

489
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 2: not gonna lie.

490
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: Well, twelve of twenty thirty, he was.

491
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 2: Throwing great something like that shows flashes.

492
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: He shows flashes all around of excellence, scrambling, throwing it

493
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: on the run, all different angles, putting the ball on

494
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: where it needs to be.

495
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 2: But like you said, that fourth where he needs to

496
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 2: be due he missed.

497
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying through the first three to the first three quarters,

498
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 1: we saw all that he was. But then in the

499
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: fourth we saw Aaron throws just over people's heads, things

500
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: that you just you just need to.

501
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: Make those passes.

502
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 1: And when I say that, but JJ McCarthy on the

503
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, when he threw that wheel route to the

504
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: running back, it was perfect because he didn't even throw

505
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: it like make him go run and get it.

506
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: He's wide open.

507
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: Throw it so he can catch the ball and fall

508
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,719
Speaker 1: into the end zone. You know what I'm saying, Like

509
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: just simple things like that is where Caleb just get

510
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: the ball into their hands.

511
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: A lot of players. He does do great, but.

512
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: Then in the fourth it just started looking like I

513
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: don't know what it was, but some passing was just

514
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: flu flying out of his hands. Listen, man, how do

515
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: you go to be the number one pick dude of

516
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: your draft class? And now you're done lost to everybody

517
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: came at you, Daniels May and JJ.

518
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: What are we talking about? Yeah, you're right, and he

519
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: was the number one pick. And I mean, I ain't

520
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 2: gonna lie the Bears.

521
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: It's the Bears, like you acting like the Bears organization.

522
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't I don't really like what they're

523
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: doing over there.

524
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 2: Man. They setting them up.

525
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: They got them looking for crazy Dad Trubisky out there

526
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: looking crazy. They had just the fields out there looking crazy.

527
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: Now they got Caleb about there looking crazy.

528
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: Hell, they had the field out there looking crazy.

529
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: Dude, dude, feel yeah, they had the field out there

530
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: out there stamping down the field.

531
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: Right, patched up, patched up like the game. Like, Bro,

532
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're doing. We had we had

533
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: a situation like that with the Steelers. Dude.

534
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: It was I want to say it was like two

535
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: thousand and seven Miami, and it well, you know they

536
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: they have like all those games playing like around that time,

537
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: and then Pitt plays on it.

538
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: They had the high schools playing on it.

539
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: So what they did is they resided the field like

540
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: right after they had stopped the games on Saturday, and

541
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: then it rained, poured cats and dogs.

542
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: Bro, it was so bad. The punter kicked the ball

543
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: and the ball hitting.

544
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 1: The ground and just stayed there just like that, like

545
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: just like a golf shot, like a yes, dude. And

546
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: then like when you would go to cut, dude, like

547
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: if this was my foot right here, bro, like that

548
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: thing would be all the way up on my ankle, dude,

549
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: like on my own damn there close to my my shin, Dude,

550
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: Like my foot would be that deep into the into

551
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: the mud when you was going to cut.

552
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: And that was that where that was. That was a

553
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: Heines field.

554
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: That was a Heines field they had resided. So what

555
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: they did is they I believe it ended up being

556
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: they sodded it for them and then they couldn't get

557
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: it removed, so they like kind of like sided on

558
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: top and then it poured rain like for the whole time,

559
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: like all the way through the game and all that. Like, dude,

560
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: that was the worst.

561
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: But that was the worst field you ever played on.

562
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: That's that's the worst. That was the worst field I'd

563
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: ever played on.

564
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: Dude, Okay, yeah one.

565
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean I played in Chicago a couple of times

566
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: and their field is the grass is high and it's

567
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: kind of patchy, you know, so that that field is

568
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: just not I'm not not a fan of not a

569
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: fan of the Bears field.

570
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of turf.

571
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I like I like turf, I like natural grass,

572
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: So my favorite. Do that bother you when you go

573
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: out there and you see like they ain't really taking

574
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: care of the field, I.

575
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: Mean, no, it doesn't affect me. In fact, I'm gonna

576
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: tell you. I'm gonna tell you this right now.

577
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: When I see the field ain't taken care of and

578
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: it's like it's like muddy and saludy, I'm like, yeah,

579
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: they can't run that. That helps me. Like, look, I'm

580
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: a power through it. I'm gonna be guys, I'm gonna

581
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: be able to catch the ass.

582
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: Now.

583
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm a cornerback. I'm a cornerback. My first thing I'm

584
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: thinking about is my footing. Can I can I fall?

585
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: Can I break? So I instantly need to go get

586
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: the seven studs. Yes, you got me in the grass.

587
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: And you got a terrible feel.

588
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: I gotta go get them seven studs with them long

589
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: so I know my feet no matter what. Dude's always

590
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: making fun of the seven stuffs. But if you're in

591
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: the grass, in the terrible field and you don't have

592
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: on seven stuffs, you're not gonna be sticking when you

593
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: stagger them things to give you that give you that

594
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: good grit o. First down on that big one on

595
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: the front, small one here, two big ones here, and

596
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: then your your uh, your small ones in the back.

597
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: Like you got to stagger them things, man makes it.

598
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: It makes it so much easier to grip and get

599
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: onto that field. My coach, Keith Butler, Man, he taught

600
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: us that.

601
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 2: Man. Oh yeah, the no bus was making sure go

602
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: put the seven studs.

603
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah you have Butts, get you some Yeah, I have Bud,

604
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: get you some seven stuff.

605
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 2: Yeah you was here the one year. Yeah I have

606
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: but for the show love but.

607
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Man, that's that's dude. Butts is the best.

608
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: Linebacker coach I ever had.

609
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: I bet like I credit him with my career just

610
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: as much as I credit.

611
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: Without the two of them, there is no need to.

612
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: Butsy was a great good Bussy's hilarious, bro, He's hilarious.

613
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

614
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: So let's get over here to the Sunday night loss

615
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: with the Ravens. So that Sunday night loss for the

616
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: Ravens was a seventh time since the start of the

617
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two season that they have lost the game

618
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: while leading by double digits in the second half. Dude, Wow,

619
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: that's crazy, dude. They have blown seventeen such leads since

620
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: John Harball became the team's coach. Hardball ignow that number

621
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: is too high, and he said the team has to

622
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: be really intentional when they find themselves in the position

623
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: in the future. Maybe part of it is we're ahead,

624
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: We're ahead a lot, and we have a lot of

625
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: two point leads. I don't believe we need to really

626
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: I believe we need to really what is say? I

627
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: believe we need to really thoughtfully. What I can't see

628
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 1: it make it bigger.

629
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: They need to be thoughtful of protecting leads. There we go.

630
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: I do believe we need to be really thoughtful of

631
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: how we approach the situation going forward.

632
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: Let's give it some time. Let's give it some thought.

633
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: Let's give it.

634
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: Let's give some thought to the play calling. Let's give

635
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: some thought to the defense play calling. Let's give some

636
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: thought to my mind to our mindset. Yeah, it's everything

637
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: I told you. Y'all stopped calling plays. You started calling

638
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: plays to try and run the clock out. The defense

639
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: started playing soft, keep everything in front of you, and

640
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: they mindset was gone as soon as they got that

641
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: what was it, twenty to twenty five or forty league,

642
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: They just thought it was going to be a pushover

643
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: and take off. You're only two scores away from actually

644
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: losing the game if they make two two point conversions.

645
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: Debo you speaking, You saying, he's saying, I don't we

646
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: need to be thoughtful and about protecting leads.

647
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 2: No, you don't.

648
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: You need to keep on doing what you doing to

649
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: get the lead. Keep on trying to score, Stop trying

650
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: to play.

651
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: Talking about right here.

652
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: Play the win, don't play the lose. When you start

653
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: playing not to lose, then that's when you lose. You

654
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: gotta play to win the game. You get up in

655
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: the lead, don't start changing nothing up, keep going hard,

656
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: keep blittening them. Don't make it defense, get back and

657
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: get all protective. No, you know what I'm saying. Keep

658
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: blasting them right, Powell on dog, so you get soon

659
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: you get the chilling. They're gonna get to spanking you.

660
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: It's such thing as momentum. And soon you let a

661
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: dog get one.

662
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: Bite on you.

663
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: All right, bet now we're getting. Now you in retreat mode. No,

664
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: don't never go and retreat, mister Harball. You have Derrick

665
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: Henry and Lamar Jackson. Don't slow them down. Keep going,

666
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: keep going, keep scoring. That's the way you're gonna protect

667
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: your lead. Make it bigger. Yeah, yes, that's the way

668
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: you protect your lead.

669
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: You make it bigger. You don't sit there and hold

670
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: on to it. This ain't like it's two minutes left

671
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: and they ain't got no time out. No, you're gonna

672
00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: got a whole quarter.

673
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: And y'all, y'all just seeing him go down there and

674
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: get a field goal in less than twenty seconds at

675
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: the end of the half.

676
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: Down there, stop you stop? What are we talking about?

677
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: What he's saying, man like that don't make no sense

678
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: at all. That's why I love Jim Harborough. He's a

679
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: great coach. But what he's saying out of his mouth

680
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: right that I just don't agree with like just keep

681
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: going hard, like we need to be thoughtful of protecting

682
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: the lead. No, you need to be keep trying to murder,

683
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: keep trying to score, keep trying to sack, strip fumble,

684
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: keep trying to get more points. Yeah, I think just

685
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: I think he might have used the wrong word and

686
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: he came back and said they need to change the

687
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: play calling and all that thoughtful of protecting. You know,

688
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: that's that's more of like, Yo, I'm gonna hold onto this.

689
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get more. I'm not trying to

690
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: make more.

691
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: You know.

692
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: That's like somebody's like, you know, I'm I'm let me

693
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: just go hold on to my money. I ain't gonna

694
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: invested in trying to get more of you know, I'm

695
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: just gonna protect it like it's gonna be safe right here. Yeah,

696
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm not. No, I gotta I gotta invest it into

697
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: into something that's gonna make me more.

698
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 2: So.

699
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: The fan who hit d Hopping and Lamar on the

700
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 1: helmet last night has been in definitely banned from the

701
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: bill stadiums.

702
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: According to Adam Scheffner.

703
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep your hands and your feet to yourself.

704
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: Fans still listen I still say they should have pressed

705
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: charges on I know what you're saying, Debo. You ready

706
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: for him to get locked up. If they did it,

707
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: the fan would have went and pressed some charge.

708
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: If you would have took off, if you would have

709
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: took off on the fan first and d pushed me

710
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: much of them, dude, Cardi b oh, yeah, try to

711
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: get her for twenty Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he would have.

712
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: She would have for he would have.

713
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: She was just saying some words to her that wasn't

714
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: even talking about whooping on her either, just asked her

715
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: what she was doing with some other you know, other

716
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: language to it.

717
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, like I hope, I.

718
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: Hope this less fans know your ass ain't gonna be

719
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: able to come to no more games you put your

720
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: hands on people.

721
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: You can still watch. You can still watch on TV.

722
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: Oh that's lovely though, de Bo. I mean you can't

723
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: be present. This is gonna take you. You can watch

724
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 2: on TV, drink and all that. Listen.

725
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: I need more of a penalty, man, because we would

726
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: get more of a penalty.

727
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: I need them to get that same penalty. We need

728
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: the same penalty when they need my penalties.

729
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: We speak about penalties, but man, he might not even

730
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: get suspended for spitting. What your man, I might not

731
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: even get suspended for spitting. Hey, I ain't gonna lie

732
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: to you, bro, he might we talk when when I

733
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: think about it, my first start happened because uh, Joey

734
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: Parter spin on.

735
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: I believe it was William Green.

736
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: So pregame, pregame spit in Cleveland, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, pregame.

737
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: Spit fight all that. Pasy.

738
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: Wow, man, look pasy. I appreciate you, baby, give me

739
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: my first start. That was two thousand and four. Yeah,

740
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: got me my first start, for sure. I really appreciate that.

741
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: That was back in the day. Huh, that was back

742
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: in the day. We're trying to say, joe, oh my bad.

743
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: I'm just feeling I'm feeling some time where I felt

744
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: like I felt like I felt like I felt like.

745
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: An old like like no no, no, no, no no

746
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: no photo. Yeah, that was dead. That was back before

747
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: my time, ye before you Okay, okay, I ain't gonna

748
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: crash out. You know what I'm saying. Who what else got? Devot?

749
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: And what else I got?

750
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, man, let me see what I got

751
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: going on here? Take me where I need to be.

752
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: So let's get it to uh Kittles Man Kittles. He

753
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: Uh reportedly is expected to be sidelined for multiple weeks

754
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: after suffering their hamstring injury during Sunday's win over Seattle.

755
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: Do that's wild. They're gonna need him. They're gonna need him,

756
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: I mean, especially now. I don't know.

757
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: I hope Christian McCaffrey stays hell this whole season, because

758
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: that dude is a ball on once he's on the field.

759
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: But if they lose Kittles beat more McCaffrey, you know what,

760
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: he lost two weeks. He lost two games last year

761
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: with a hamstring. Mm hm.

762
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: You know these guys that that that, like, yeah, soft

763
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: tissue injuries. I don't think they understand. It's like a

764
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: it's a muscle imbalance. It's either for him, he's probably

765
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: he's doing hamstrings. He's probably a guy that's quad dominant.

766
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: If he strengthen the squads and get them closer to

767
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: the balance of yeah, the balance of his hamstrings.

768
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: He won't he you know, he won't. He won't pull

769
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: a quads.

770
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: And you know, especially like in the first you know,

771
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks of the season, you get a

772
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: lot of guys with soft tissue injuries. And it's just

773
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, either imbalance or it's a a combination of

774
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: an imbalance with fatigue. Because you got these guys, like said,

775
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: you get in the preseason. Nobody really plays in the

776
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: preseason at all.

777
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You lucky if you get

778
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: you know, ten snaps in the preseason game now and

779
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: you get all live reps.

780
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: Right then you go out there week one and even

781
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: the reps like you said, you get, they're not one

782
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour. And then you go out there

783
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: week one and you tell your body, hey, I need

784
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: you to give me forty fifty reps out one hundred

785
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: miles an hour for sure. Right, They're like, Yo's what's

786
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: going on? And then they wonder why they get these

787
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: soft tissue injuries. And a lot of guys don't train

788
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: like that anymore, you know, Like you know, when I train,

789
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: people are like James, why are you sitting up there

790
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: pushing a you know, a two thousand pounds said, I'm

791
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: putting attention on my achilles, thees I'm building up to

792
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 1: that I make sure I'm getting that, Like I don't

793
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: start at two thousand I've built up to that through

794
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: the course of you know, my training, so that when

795
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: it comes time to actually do that and press on it,

796
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: it's used to it.

797
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: So it's not going to just go and you know,

798
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: give out on yep.

799
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you're pushing on them line and like leaning

800
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: on them. That's two thousands you trying to get them

801
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: up off you and you want. Ah, that's a lot,

802
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: that's a lot of weight Yoh, they're thinking about putt

803
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: him on the temporary are where you got to be

804
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: out at least four weeks.

805
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: What is that on Kittle? Yeah, yeah, I guess.

806
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: Ian Rapperport reported that Kittle would likely be sidelined three

807
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: to five weeks.

808
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: He sure he ain't tear that thing. That's more than

809
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: just a little strain. That's definitely more than a strain.

810
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: That thing off the bone. No, yeah, all out there. No,

811
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to get him out off the bone. No.

812
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: I hope, I swear, I hope it's not. I want

813
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: him to be okay. I want to come back as

814
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: soon as possible. Oh, no question, you know a few

815
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: weeks with a little handy.

816
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 2: Hey you ever pulled a handy? Yes?

817
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: I did, I did.

818
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: And they long. Uh I was about I was about

819
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: three weeks, three weeks to yeah, three weeks, yo, So

820
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 2: I don't I don't.

821
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: I don't think nobody knows this because I've never told anybody.

822
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: So when I jumped over Ladani and Thomas and uh

823
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: San diego h that was another spot start I got,

824
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: like in who with a two thousand and ford That

825
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 1: might have been the same year I pulled my groin

826
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: and I didn't miss no time.

827
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: I just kept playing through it. People, you were crazy,

828
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: I had Hey, I just.

829
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: Got soft tissue work, I got, I got some back.

830
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: You probably got some dry immediately, dude, And I just

831
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: kept going with it. B I tried that. I played

832
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: on the string growing for two weeks, but then my joint.

833
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: Actually I had to get surgery on both both sports hernians,

834
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: both both growings double sports.

835
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: An your joint. Yeah yeah, yeah, that wasn't.

836
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: What you must not You must not have been really

837
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: doing the doing the care. The salt tissue worked with that,

838
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: I knew all the crazy work until it happened, and

839
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: then when it happened, the other one happened, and then

840
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: the off season.

841
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: But it was good. I once I got surgery on them.

842
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: I was solid until now until I retired.

843
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: Now my left growing acting a little crazy, but I

844
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 1: don't need to get from zero to sixty in full

845
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: speed right now, so I'm still solid.

846
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: Dude.

847
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you when you retire, listen, bruh.

848
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: I donet have most surgeries since I got done. Hey,

849
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: and I did while I was playing.

850
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: Bro. No, I'm not letting no, Bro, that's the car.

851
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: That's why I had to get up out of there.

852
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: When I got up out of there, I started being like, Man,

853
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: if I keep going, I might be a little messed

854
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: up where I can't run and move the whey I

855
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: want to. So, I mean it was right around this time.

856
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: That's why I still got my left growing. My left

857
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: growing is still not to one hundred percent. Like I

858
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: can't do certain stretches. You know what I'm saying.

859
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: There's normal stretches, but I can make it shake, you

860
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Like if I had have played

861
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: another year, boy, I might need to get another whole

862
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: surgery for sure.

863
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: In my growing, I felt the same way about my back, dude,

864
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: And then through the process of actually doing this goes

865
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: some crazy.

866
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: Dude doing a food sensitivity allergy test.

867
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: I ended up finding out like I was severely, severely

868
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: like allergic to eggs, not to where I would blow up,

869
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: but to where my body had an inflammatory response.

870
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. So after I you did the all CAT Yes, brother,

871
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: I need so after I.

872
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: After I did that, you know, my doc had been

873
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: telling me for a minute, like yo on my naturally,

874
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: like you need to stop eating egg stop eating eggs,

875
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: stopping the eggs.

876
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, that's the only thing I eat. What

877
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: else I'm gonna eat? I'm eating.

878
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't have it doesn't half eggs a day.

879
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,479
Speaker 1: So at that point, you know, to get out of bed, dude.

880
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: You know, after the two back surgeries, I'd be on

881
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 1: my you know, hands and knees, just sitting there warming

882
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: up and then go hit the shower and then you know,

883
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: take off the practice. And I finally listened and I stopped,

884
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: and within like six months, all of a sudden, I

885
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: was popping out of bed, dude, like popping out of bed,

886
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: just going and I'm energy.

887
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 2: So you're not normally you wasn't normally a morning person

888
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: eating all them eggs? No, No, no, it wasn't.

889
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: I had the energy, but it was the the inflammatory

890
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: response on my back that was killing me where I

891
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: had to warm up and start getting things moving and

892
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: get that get that inflammation out of there. Okay, Oh,

893
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pop up and rise. I'm a three o'clock dude.

894
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 2: Every day, I get it. I get I get them

895
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: every day. Well not every day you go to sleep, debo,

896
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: what time you go to sleep? If youre waking up

897
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: at three days, I'm.

898
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: Telling you right now, it's murdering me with these night games, bro, Like,

899
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: it's murdering me with these Now I'm getting like two

900
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: three hours of sleep, hitting the gym, coming back through,

901
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: doing everything I need to do. Yeah, okay, okay, yeah,

902
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: I just some days. You for what, Actually I only

903
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: need probably like I'm a I used to be a

904
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: four to six guy. I'm probably more like a five

905
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: to six guy. But I could function a good week

906
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: and a half two weeks on, you know, three to four.

907
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: So I'm good. It's only a couple of days and then.

908
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: I'll get I'll get some sleep. I'll get some sleep tomorrow.

909
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: So okay, okay, I can sleep in. Yeah, I get

910
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: to sleep in until five. You know, that's sleeping in.

911
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: So come Saturday and Sunday, I sleep until five. Monday

912
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: through Friday is three o'clock. And it keeps Yeah, it

913
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: keeps going from there. Brother, I'm probably I'm like, I'm

914
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: like six o'clock. I'm always up at six. I got

915
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: the kids and everything, so I probably at six o'clock

916
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: every day, even even on Saturday.

917
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: Sunday.

918
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: Sunday we got church, so you know, I'm up at

919
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: six o'clock on it. But Saturday I might try to

920
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: sleep in.

921
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: But the kids, they don't.

922
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: They the alarm clock, they gonna wake up like especially

923
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: on Saturday. They want to act like they won't wake

924
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: up earlier because they know they don't got school, so

925
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: they don't care.

926
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: They might wake up at five. They ready for whatever

927
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: on Saturday. Man, your kids young.

928
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: My kids are nine and with my boy just turned

929
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: nine today. And my boy Jet is a six.

930
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: Man, my youngest.

931
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: That dude that gets sixteen hours if you let him,

932
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: I promise you, dude, he got like my brother kid

933
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: sleeping man like he will he This dude will come

934
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: home from school, go to sleep and won't wake up

935
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: until he got to use the bathroom and if he

936
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: got homework and he'll.

937
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: Wake up like like five o'clock before he got to

938
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 2: go to school to get it done. Liked. Oh he's sleeping,

939
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: sleeping this dude, sleep sleep. Oh that's and hearn when

940
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: he don't sleep. Sleep.

941
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: You could you can finding, you know, three o'clock in

942
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: the morning up there with the headphones on.

943
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: What are you doing with the headphones on? Man? He

944
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: playing the damn game on the sticks? Okay, okay, he

945
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 2: wanted them. He wanted those. U what's the computer games

946
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: they play? Dude?

947
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: They got these Fortnite. I don't know, man, they got

948
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: these computers cross cost the arm in the leg and

949
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: tell me about it. They've got their I pass right now,

950
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: so they I'm chilling. I still got no gaming systems

951
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: for them. But we got the PS five. Just do

952
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: the two K, you know what I'm saying, and the

953
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 1: matt maybe a little FIFA okay, you know what I'm saying.

954
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: None of the crazy games yet. Grant Arismo maybe you

955
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

956
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: Car games, my boy, Joey's what's growing to Arismo, dude,

957
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: Grand Arismo. Bro.

958
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: We got the racing car simulated game with like the

959
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: driver and the gas pedal and the and the shifters

960
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: Grand it's a whole setup. It's a whole setup. You

961
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: can get a whole setup. I got a whole cage

962
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: like I'm riding the NASCAR.

963
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got you gotta to ashow me. I'm gonna

964
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: show you that I'm a driver. You know what I'm saying.

965
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: I got, I got my cd LS. You know what

966
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

967
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: I could if you if y'all need somebody out there,

968
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: I got. I got pasted during endorsement. Really so I'm

969
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm a Class B driver. I could drive school buses.

970
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: You know. I was thinking about driving the school buses.

971
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

972
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: Go ahead and tell them kids, sit you ass on

973
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: down now.

974
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: I'll be scared to help you with my bus driver.

975
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: Hey, listen for real, though, this is what I was

976
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: thinking about doing. I don't even know if they would

977
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: have let me, but I wanted to. I wanted to

978
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: go and be the driver like one of my sons

979
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: buses like one time, and like had him had me

980
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: right there. If you got your license, if you got

981
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: the CD I got past your endorsements, go talk to

982
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: the bus driver. Hit sub you in boom. You know

983
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: I mean to tell me right in bomb hold it down.

984
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: I did all that like in college, dude. I got

985
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: my CDLs in college, so that smove.

986
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.

987
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: I was a bus driver before you know, I had

988
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: set out. Well, I didn't sit out.

989
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: I had to. I didn't have the grades to be eligible.

990
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: I was a prop forty eight, so you know, well,

991
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know if y'all have proper then you're

992
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: a little.

993
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: Younger than me.

994
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, when you couldn't do nothing with it, you

995
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: couldn't do nothing with the team. They didn't pay for

996
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: your education or nothing. You just went to school, okay.

997
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: And then I messed that up, So now I have

998
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: to pay for another year? What do you now? And

999
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: then the coaches champ. Yeah. I ended up walking on

1000
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: at Kent State with my good man Josh Cribs at quarterback.

1001
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: Served well. He came in my senior year, Josh, Josh

1002
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: like younger.

1003
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: Okay, Debo, you're just putting years on yourself, right you

1004
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: grown man, Debo?

1005
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: You don't care you look you look. I told her,

1006
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: I thought you I thought you was I thought you

1007
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: was like forty two.

1008
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: Nah, no, bro, I'm I'm closer to fifty than I

1009
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: am the fourth, That's what I'm saying.

1010
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: Closer to I'm thirty six, closer to what you started there, huh,

1011
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: close to closer to my dad's age, Debo. I'm not

1012
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: gonna lie. I think you might be a little bit

1013
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: closer than my dad age than me. How old is

1014
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: your dad? Fifty six? Hold? Are you thirty six? Yeah?

1015
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: I think you might be nine years. I think you

1016
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: might be closer to.

1017
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 3: Hey, man, you need to watch how you talk to

1018
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: your elders. Now, that's why I've been talking to you.

1019
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 3: Time show some respects, called your dad time. Go on

1020
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 3: ahead over there and whip your ass.

1021
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 2: Boy. Oh do your stup? You stup? Oh man?

1022
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: No, but for real, though, you is a little closer

1023
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: to propers than me, probably just a bout one year.

1024
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 1: But look, all right, but your dad turned fifty seven

1025
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: this year. He No, he just he turned fifty six

1026
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: this year.

1027
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: You turn I.

1028
00:48:53,440 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: Turned thirty seven when April fourteenth? All right, I ain't tripping,

1029
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: all right, look, debo. So yeah, you're close to my

1030
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: dad to me. We got that established. Let's talk about

1031
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Hey, he's still starting, definitely still starting. But

1032
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: like you know, like you were saying.

1033
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 2: He getting he's getting getting another week.

1034
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: He getting getting close to you know, if he don't,

1035
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 1: if he don't do something, he getting close to going ahead.

1036
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: And but you cann be sitting back there.

1037
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: But like you said of Debo, they don't want to

1038
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: throw out the new man and just get him beat

1039
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: up because Russell Wilson was running for his life out there.

1040
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: So we don't want to throw out the new guy, Jackson,

1041
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: the dark h who we got. We don't want to

1042
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: throw a new quarterback out there and then he just

1043
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: starts getting hit just like Russell will. So we want

1044
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: to put Russell out there, the vet, you know what

1045
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so he can try to try to just

1046
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: be able to get the line blocking for him, because

1047
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: you don't who no matter who's back there, if you

1048
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: if you switch out Russell and put the other guy,

1049
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: he's going to keep getting hit. So at the same time,

1050
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: you jo you don't want to put your rookie quarterback

1051
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: out there in a situation where you know he's not

1052
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: in a position to win, and at least not this early.

1053
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: It's only game two. Like, let's see what Russell can

1054
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: do with this offense. Bill try to get milite neighbors

1055
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: into the game. You know what you got there. But

1056
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: protecting the quarterback is thing one, and Russe's a vet.

1057
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't throw my young dude out there to

1058
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: be getting hit upside the head this early. Yet, you know,

1059
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: you know, like Russ even you know when he was

1060
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: with the Steelers last year, you know, he gets a

1061
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: you know when when he get a little unsure, he'd

1062
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: rather he'd rather throw it closer to it being out

1063
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: than it being in.

1064
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: Especially you know when you.

1065
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: Got those those you know, defenders close to him and

1066
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, one of those sideline throws.

1067
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1068
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't especially like as it got deeper into

1069
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: the season, I started I started noticing that, or at

1070
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: least that.

1071
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: Was my view of it. You know, what would you

1072
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 2: what was your view of it? Did you?

1073
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: I like the way I mean the one thing that

1074
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: Russell was doing, the idea kind of like at least

1075
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 1: he was giving the receivers opportunities.

1076
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: I mean, just throw that. He threw some good fat

1077
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: balls to George when he was there, and that's what. Yeah,

1078
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: but it was some that just like, yo, you didn't

1079
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: even give him opportunity. It's just bond. I know, I know,

1080
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: I know, I mean that was the thing. I mean,

1081
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: normally he thought.

1082
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: Normally that's his best that's his best pass he does

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00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: it is the goball and to give the dudes ops.

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00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: But I don't know he was throwing them out of

1085
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: bound sometimes it just it didn't look it didn't look

1086
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: Russell like, hopefully he doesn't do that like I saw this.

1087
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: It didn't look Russell like.

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00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: I ain't. Like I said, Russell was a good dude.

1089
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: But Russell been looking Russell the Russell that were looking

1090
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: at if he's been looking like that but since Denver.

1091
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just like, like I said too though

1092
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 2: he didn't look too like.

1093
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: This is how you're going to say the man. If

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00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: you don't have no time to throw the ball, how

1095
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: you going to greater man? Hey, you time to throw

1096
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: the ball. Look at Aaron Rodgers. He was getting that

1097
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 1: thing out of there, very little time to throw the ball.

1098
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: He made the decisions. He made decisive decisions.

1099
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: All out when he needed to play calling. Play calling.

1100
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a position to win, can we give wrestled

1101
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: some options where you can get it out faster?

1102
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: We got deep, we got deep routes.

1103
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: Why is he not getting it out faster or is

1104
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: he just holding on to it for fear of it

1105
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: being a pick because he's unsure. Could be both, could

1106
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 1: be both. There's two ways to skin a cat. That's

1107
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: that's for sure. But I mean to say, I mean,

1108
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: he's a veteran quarterback, like if nothing else.

1109
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: You should be able to just see it and getting dumb.

1110
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think right now they're gonna least they're going

1111
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: to keep him in there, give him another shot to

1112
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: do better before they put Darling there, because they put

1113
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: Dart in there right now.

1114
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't, I don't.

1115
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, dude, I don't see him putting

1116
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: Dart in there until like they don't. They don't want

1117
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: at least I'm with you, like three four deep, like

1118
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: you can't. Like you said, he's he's being pressured. Your

1119
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: your rookie quarterback is not going to make more decisive

1120
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: decision unless he is you know, actually a better actually

1121
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: a maker can see it better. It's more decisive with it.

1122
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: But you know, you start getting into games where you

1123
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: got these deep coordinates. You get this rookie in here,

1124
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: and what's the first thing they do you start throwing

1125
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: everything at you know, everything in the kitchen.

1126
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: Sink to confuse him. You know, you disguise it.

1127
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: You know you you're gonna do different things like when

1128
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: you know coach lebou we would play a rookie quarterback,

1129
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: dude or disguise game is on point and you're trying to.

1130
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 2: Confuse him, you know, every which way.

1131
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: No, I get that, I get that, But at the

1132
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: same I mean, Jackson Dark, he he could he could

1133
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: be better.

1134
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 2: Like he didn't look he didn't look bad.

1135
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's the preseason, but he was throwing

1136
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: the ball, He's getting it out of his hands fast.

1137
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: They picked him before he was a hot he was

1138
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: what was it first What round did Dark go in?

1139
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: Was it first round? I think the first round?

1140
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was definitely went before Shador so they

1141
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: seen something in them. Yeah, but I'm just not too

1142
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: big on the Giants. So it's kind of like, I mean,

1143
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: he darts back there, Wilson's back there. It's going hopefully

1144
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: they hopefully they is the head coach and in New

1145
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 1: York and Giants is it day bo bron coach Davo,

1146
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1147
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 2: I don't know him. By he was my he was

1148
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 2: a coach for me.

1149
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: I think he was an offensive coordinator for the Browns

1150
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 1: when I was there in Cleveland.

1151
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: But so he drafted, well, yeah, obviously he drafted dark.

1152
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: Listen, at some point, everybody goes to start having to

1153
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: think about, uh, you know, making sure they protecting their job,

1154
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: the decisions that they made, and drafting this person. The

1155
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: first rounder is supposed to come in and contribute to

1156
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: the team that year, right, that's why you put him first?

1157
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: Was? I think quarterbacks are a little tricky. ID any other.

1158
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: Position besides the quarterback, they' supposed to be instant starter baller,

1159
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: and the quarterback, even if he's not ready, you're projecting

1160
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: if you draft him in the first round, that he's

1161
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: going to be a franchise quarterback.

1162
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 2: That's what I'm expecting. If I draft a quarterback in

1163
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: the first round. I don't know. I'm thinking I think

1164
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: he might he might get a crash.

1165
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: Course, so to speak, and uh, yeah, it might have

1166
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: to happen for sure, because if Russell keep getting hit

1167
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: like this like they was, I was looking on Instagram

1168
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: and I I gotta I'm gonna pull up some clips

1169
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: when they showed like They was like, oh they want

1170
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: dark to start because nobody they just had free runs

1171
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 1: out of them a couple of times.

1172
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't like it. Joe.

1173
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: Before we got out of here, we got our first

1174
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: super chat. Joe, what super chat? Big old head donat

1175
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: bag bag on Head donated five dollars and said, James,

1176
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: I was at the Dolphins game in two thousand and seven.

1177
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: The field was horrible. I think John Beck played quarterback

1178
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: for Miami. Score was three to nothing. Stellers, right, that

1179
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: sound right? That does sound right? That good man?

1180
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: There we go. What's his name? I think that was.

1181
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: Bag on Head donate, that's that's just I guess that

1182
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: must be his his chat name. His chat name is

1183
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: bag on Head. While your bag on Head man?

1184
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: You a Browns fan? Oh no?

1185
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I hope shots fired. You can't call me old

1186
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: think I ain't gonna shoot back? The old think I

1187
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: ain't gonna shoot back. That's ma Mama's son, play that.

1188
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: Man. Oco.

1189
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: John donated two dollars and said Fellas still has just shine.

1190
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: Julian Java Peppers. No, they didn't, did they Jabril Peppers?

1191
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: They signed him? Are you sure that's nice?

1192
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: I played with Jabil in Cleveland when he got drafted there.

1193
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: That's a football player.

1194
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but where did they play? That's the big thing,

1195
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: Like like where it don't matter. I mean, like we

1196
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 2: can have him at safety.

1197
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: We can have him at safety or slot, nickel or

1198
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: either strong whatever whatever opposite where Jalen's at.

1199
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: Slide him down. He could blitz nickelback or.

1200
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: Safety, Nickel safety, Nickel safety. To show nickel safety, I

1201
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: say safety. I don't know about nickel. The only reason

1202
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: I say nickel just he's gonna be cover. He can

1203
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: cover tight ends and he can blitz. He's a tackler,

1204
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: like the way we use Mike Hilton. Like still, let's

1205
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: use debrill like Mike Hilton that man, I'm not that that.

1206
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: Would be nice. Mm hmm. He's tackling, bro.

1207
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: That's the month thing, Like we need some people that's

1208
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: in that joint filling up some of these holes.

1209
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: Hey, man, you no bag onhead.

1210
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: He a Dolphins fan, bro, and he donated, Bro, he

1211
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: donated five dude, we can't you know, I mean, everybody

1212
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: got they faults.

1213
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: You know, I mean I like that.

1214
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,479
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here, I'm here for it. I'm yeah,

1215
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: it's okay, you know what I'm saying. Appreciate it. I

1216
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: appreciate the information, though. I think that was the three

1217
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: nothing game or was it three or six?

1218
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: I got one, I got got I'm not gonna check

1219
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: that out. I got somebody gotta check that out. But

1220
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: I got one. I got something I want to talk about, right, Oh,

1221
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 2: hold on what time we got? Oh? It's twelve on

1222
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: one people, I got I got last one.

1223
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: NBA MVP Shady Gooders Alexander says that there's no way

1224
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: he could play in the NFL. Which NBA players do

1225
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: you think could play in the NFL?

1226
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: Or and vice versa? Who you think, James? You know what, man?

1227
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: I would want to say that somebody could, but they

1228
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: so tall, man, you gonna get cut down. Only reason

1229
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: why I'm saying is like I think, so say, but

1230
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: say six how tall is the How tall was Jimmy

1231
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: Graham tight end when he was playing for the Saints.

1232
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: He was like six seven sixty okay, seven okay? So

1233
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you. Put Braun at tight end at

1234
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: six eight to sixty. I don't know, like you know

1235
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Megatron, it was six five two fifty

1236
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: like and then just depending on.

1237
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I think BRONC. I think bron could do it

1238
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: for show.

1239
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: I think even I think maybe Anthony Edwards might be

1240
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: able to do it and play safety or something because

1241
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: I just like his aggressiveness.

1242
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 2: If Derrick Rose played football, I think Derrick Rose might

1243
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: have been able to do it. I know a I

1244
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: would have been able to do it. Yeah, he did it.

1245
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 2: He did it. He was number one in both He

1246
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 2: could have just went and he went the right way. Yeah.

1247
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: And then with basketball, who do I see that could

1248
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: play in the NBA that plays in the NFL.

1249
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: Maybe see that? See that.

1250
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the tough part because we're gonna need

1251
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: like a they're they're tall, so we're gonna need somebody

1252
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 1: that's like a wire, like somebody like can like could

1253
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: Calvin play shooting guard? You know what I'm saying, six five,

1254
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: two fifty. But then he has to be good at basketball. Ay,

1255
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: it's probably a quarterback, a quarterback to run the one

1256
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: or I don't know what they're gonna run, but it's

1257
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: gonna have to be a quarterback because these quarterbacks actually

1258
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: be good at shooting the ball because they I'm just

1259
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: telling you, like you ever seen being played basketball.

1260
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can shoot. He got Tredeballa, he got trade ball.

1261
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: And you know who else, Dude, I take it back, Keysel, Dude,

1262
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: Bret Kezel young, Bret Kezel Man. I think Bret Keysel

1263
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: was a Mcdonaldsall American back in the day in high school.

1264
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: Torel prior, okay to real prior. You know what, I

1265
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 2: ain't gonna lie.

1266
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw. I ain't gonna throw my you know what. No, No,

1267
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna throw yourself in there. I'm gonna throw my

1268
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: hat in the bucket. No, no, yeah, bro, you know

1269
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: who I'm guard. You know what, look at I'm gonna

1270
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: be out that thing like.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, we want to thank y'all.

1272
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: Guys for doing us, because Joe about to sit here

1273
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: and tell them some lies. Man, Thank you guys for

1274
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: joining us on this episode the debo and Joe Man

1275
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: hit the light button and subscribe.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to miss nothing, man, I believe you though.

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