1 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Ramona, Ramona Ramona. 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: So the Vanity Fair article comes out and it shines 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: a light on things that happened between Ramona and Ebony 4 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: and a black producer and Ramona's alleged use of. 5 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: The N word, and then there was no reunion. 6 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: They did not film or reunion, but it was because 7 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: of this controversy and a quote unquote internal investigation. 8 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: And then Ramona was cleared supposedly, but. 9 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: She was persona on grata and she wasn't going to 10 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: be asked back to the legacy show, but she was 11 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: asked to go on Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip. That's 12 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: the show that's going to be supposedly replacing the Morocco 13 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: show that got pretty much canceled and will probably never 14 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: see the light of day. That's the show that they 15 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: were doing drinking games and smoking pot and there was 16 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: an alleged sexual altercation. Because there's endless amounts of alcohol, 17 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: jet lag, sleep deprivation, unreasonable filming schedules, and drama cells. 18 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: So now you have a group of people that have 19 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: been fired and they all want to go on Full 20 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: Tilt because they're desperate to be asked back for entertainment. 21 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: And one of those people Brandy was on another show 22 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: in the Berkshire, so now this was her second one. 23 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: So you can bet trust and believe that they wanted 24 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: Brandy to be Brandy because that sells. And what happens 25 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: in this environment is in the beginning, you're applauded for 26 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: one thing, enter Leah season one, and then taken down 27 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: to the sticks the next season, because what goes up 28 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: must come down. Enter Kathy Hilton, Enter Brandy Glanville when 29 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 2: she had a New York Times bestseller. But everybody must 30 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: be taken to the top and then crash and burn, 31 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: celebrated for how hilarious they are and how amazing they 32 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: are and how real they are, and then crash and burn. 33 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: So back to Ramona. So Ramona. 34 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 2: Is not good enough to be on the Real Housewives 35 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: of New York, nor the Legacy Show, nor well the 36 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: reunion be aired, but she gets asked to come on 37 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: this shit show of a Hodgepodge mishmash because I used 38 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: to ask Andy, when would you ever do all Stars? 39 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: When would you ever do a group thing? 40 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: And he said, one day, when we're near the end, 41 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: that's when we'll do that. But that's not now. So 42 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: it feels like it's now now, but that's the place 43 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: where people I don't know Faedra and I have met 44 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: her and she was lovely, but she had an incident 45 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: with Candy where Candy and Bravo seemed to feel that 46 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 2: Faedra had accused Candy of drugging people, and that's why 47 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: Fedra left the show. But now Faedra's applauded and she's 48 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: brought on an Ultimate Girl's Trip because Bravo is the 49 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: land of forget as long as it's good for ratings. 50 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: So Ramona was good enough for the Ultimate Girl's Trip, 51 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: and then she was good enough just a week or 52 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: two ago to get on Andy's lap in a big costume. 53 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: She was the She was the surprise, and you know 54 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: she loves Andy. I'm sure she thinks of him like 55 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: a brother until it's time to go to Bravo Con 56 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: because she says something absurd which is no different than 57 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: probably what was said on the show, and now because 58 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: of optics, Bravo has disinvited her to Bravo Con. Believe me, 59 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: if Ramona said something that made her look really bad 60 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: on her own, but it didn't affect Bravo, and they're 61 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: being canceled, Ramona would be front and center on the stage. 62 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: When Ramona said about my ex who passed away, wasn't 63 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 2: he on drugs or something? 64 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: That was a terrible thing to say. But it doesn't matter. 65 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: Bravo doesn't care about that because it wasn't about Bravo 66 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: and it didn't make Bravo look bad. 67 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: It just made Ramona look bad. Bravo is the realm. 68 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: Everybody has to do it so they protect ahead and 69 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: they are scrambling like you have never seen before. And 70 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: I know from firsthand knowledge. I know from lawyers, I 71 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: know from publicists. I know for a fact the powers 72 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: that be are scrambling and looking for crisis intervention, you 73 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: name it. And Bravo con is just around the corner. 74 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: And many of you, not many, a percentage of you 75 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: don't want your junk food to be taken away, and 76 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: so you say to me, oh, you bit the hand 77 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: that feeds you. Oh, now you're going to take this away. 78 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: Et cetera. 79 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: Okay, so argument's sake, I'm dead wrong. None of what 80 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: I'm saying is true. Okay, first of all, let's pretend 81 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm a hypocrite. Okay, I'm a hypocrite. I bit the 82 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: hand that fed me. Oh okay, so let's pretend what 83 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: I'm saying isn't true. Why Ramona now disinvalued to Bravo 84 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: con when last week she was sitting on Andy's lap. 85 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: Why because it's a boat filled with holes like a 86 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: piece of Swiss cheese, That's why. And the Vanity Fair 87 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: story was amazing that Liam McSweeney said Bravo should pay 88 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: the flax that made that story what it was because 89 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: that story moved the conversation forward. 90 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: Don't get it twisted. And there are at least a. 91 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: Dozen lawsuits that named Bravo and Andy Cohen personally. 92 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: But that article. 93 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: Warner Brothers is the company that owns Vanity Fair, and 94 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 2: that's the same company that owns Shed Media, which produces 95 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: The Housewives. But the truth doesn't lie, and it's out 96 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: there and the toothpaste cap is off the tube. So 97 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: Bravo is going to live on without Ramona. Cast of Morocco, 98 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: many of which have been disinvited from Bravo con because 99 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: that show will probably never see the light of day. 100 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: Real Housewives, Ultimate Girls Trip New York is supposed to 101 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: replace Morocco in December. What's going to happen with that 102 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: when Ramona is its star, so they are in a 103 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: free fall. So if you think I'm wrong, why is 104 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: everybody changing all their ways? Why is the entire industry 105 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: shaking in their boots? Why is Bravo on damage control? 106 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: Why? Because what I'm saying is correct. 107 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: So you may not like me, don't throw the baby 108 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: out with the bathwater, because the reality reckoning is real 109 00:07:46,880 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: and it's not going anywhere. And the Bravo conversation continues. 110 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: So five people today sent me this watch what Crappens post, 111 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: and I didn't understand why everyone was sending it to me, 112 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: But this post was basically saying, so we learned that 113 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: Ramone is a racist and that people drink too. 114 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: Much of Bravo. 115 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing, but something like that, talking about the Vanity 116 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: Fair article with the alcohol consumption, and Ramona allegedly texted 117 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: the N word and subsequently being removed from Bravo Con, 118 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: disinvited from Bravo Con, and it's been reported that she 119 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: has been let go from her real estate position. So 120 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: Andy Cohen today did a like laughing emoji on the 121 00:08:53,480 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: watch where Crappin's post, which was belittling the alcohol discussion 122 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: and the racism discussion, which is really like shocking, honestly shocking, 123 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: especially right now. I think he probably just thinks he's 124 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: invincible because he's untouchable and it's been really hard. So 125 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: Leah posted I'm glad to know that Andy thinks it's 126 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: funny racism and substance abuse, and I just reposted it 127 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: and said, Bravo, con seems like it's gonna be fun 128 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 2: because riddle me this, Andy Cohen is laughing at something 129 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: regarding racism, why would he not be asked to leave 130 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 2: Bravo kan If Ramona texted something to someone in the media. 131 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: It's just it's fifty shades of bullshit, is what it 132 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: actually is across the board. But it's bubbling and per usual, 133 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: I've overshot the mark. I've gotten calls all day every 134 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: day since this whole thing started. 135 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: And women are a different breed. 136 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: They bubble up onto the surface and they start to 137 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: get stronger when they feel like they have other women, 138 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: other sisters next to them. And it's just for the 139 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: first time in Andy's career, he's starting to feel like 140 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: what it feels like to be a housewife. 141 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: This is what it feels like to be a housewife. 142 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: Every day, something you say being written about, no one 143 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: there to save you, no one there to protect you. 144 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: You're ultimately on your own, getting canceled, losing sleep, drinking 145 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: more than you should because you're having such anxiety, taking 146 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: anxiety medication, taking sleep medication. It's really serious. It's what 147 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: I've been talking about. So maybe he'll be more sensitive 148 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: to other housewives and to people on reality TV as 149 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: he starts to experience what it feels like to be 150 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: the subject of constant criticism. 151 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: So watch what happens.