1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,159 Speaker 1: Ronan. If the tires are that badly worn and you are, 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: the tires are that ball, you can't ride five months 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: on ball tire. You're you're taking your life in your hands. 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: You're taking your family's life in your hands, and you're 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: endangering the people around you. Where's my super foot, the 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. It only takes a second for an accident 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: to happen in the blink of an eye. You're not 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: where you're supposed to be, so you know, don't fool 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: around with tires. Please welcome to the radio home of 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: ron and Anian the Car Doctor. Since this is where 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your call 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: at eight five five six and now he running. Hey, 16 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: it's time to start your engines. A low and welcome 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: run on any of the Car Doctor here at five 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. More information about this radio 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: show at car Doctor show dot com. Before I get started, Tom, 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: where was that clip from? Boy? Why don't I recognize that? 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: I got a feeling you're gonna tell me that was 22 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: family guy. Nope, the Incredibles. I never saw that. You 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: never saw the Incredibles. Was never heard of The Incredibles 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: Disney movie. You gotta you, you gotta watch the Incredibles. 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: Are there? Car Chase, isn't it? It was all kinds 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: of chases in't it? Well? Is it a cartoon or 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,279 Speaker 1: is it real? It's cartoon? Oh that's Pixar Disney. Okay, 28 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: I've never seen it. Yeah, you got you gotta see 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: it because you know, we we thought you were saying 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: you're saving the world. There, therefore you were going to 31 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: look for your super suit, my super suit. Oh I 32 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: get it now what I just I gotta get out more. 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: I gotta get up from another hook. Car you do. 34 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: It's it's a story of its story where society has 35 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: taken these super people and decided they're anomalies and they 36 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: don't want to deal with them, so they're all hiding 37 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: and they're not doing anything, and all of a sudden, 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: the world. Yeah I've heard of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 39 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: I've heard of that. Okay, now I know what you're 40 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: talking about. You know, it's like when you live, eating, breathe, 41 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: cars you know, so last night, after after after what 42 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: five days of fixing cars? What do you what do 43 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: you do on Friday night? You drive over to Jimmy's 44 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: house and I helped Jimmy put the engine back in 45 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: the Shelby Mustang, which was kind of cool. That was 46 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: that was sort of a fun deal to be able 47 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: to work on an original sixty six GT. Shelby. Um, 48 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, to look at you know, simple nuts and 49 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: bolt technology and the way it was a million years ago. 50 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: My gosh. But yeah, I gotta get out more. I 51 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: gotta do more. Um but I run out of things 52 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: to do. I run out of energy because of all 53 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: the things I do during the week. Airgo to that point. 54 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: Two thousand seven, Pontiac Torrent came into the shop, which 55 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: is sort of like a Pontiac Matrix thing. It's um, 56 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like up in that classification of 57 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: a small suv. And it had a problem with the 58 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: left front break locking on. I took it for a ride, 59 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: tried to duplicate it, gave it a couple of road tests, 60 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: couldn't get it to act up in any way, shape 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: or form. So you know, it's it's you could see 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: that the left front brake rotor was clearly overheated at 63 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: the edges of the rust where that burnt orange, sort 64 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: of a look that you get when something has been 65 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: running super hot for a period of time. See you 66 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: say to yourself, well, it's either the caliper or the 67 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: brake cos, which are the most common things. Because after 68 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: that you're into the two thousand dollar ABS controller. And 69 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: you know, if we're gonna guess, let's guess cheap, right, 70 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: So you know, let's do a front break overhaul. Let's 71 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: do pads and rotors. It was coming due for breaks anyway. 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: The rotors were beat up. Let's do pads, rotors, calipers, 73 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: and we might as well do break hos as we 74 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: can still get them. We can still get them GM 75 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: from General Motors. We can still get OI hoses for it. 76 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: And quality of parts as always a concern. So we 77 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: did all that. Danny gets done with it and the 78 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: car is ready to leave, and you know, he was 79 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: bleeding the brakes and I'm in the office writing somebody 80 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: up and he comes in. He says, you gotta come 81 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: out here, and I went, oh no, and I go 82 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: out and says, could you turn that left front wheel. 83 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm thinking it can't be any mystery here. And um, 84 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: the left front wheels locked on. I can't get at 85 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: the turn. And I said, well, wait a minute, isn't 86 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: this what the car came in for? Yeah, okay, what 87 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: am I missing? He said, I'm not sure myself. He said, um, 88 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: here's the old caliper, and he showed me the old caliber. 89 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: They came off the left front and and actually the 90 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: old caliper was bad. You could see the dust boot 91 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: on the inner piston seal had had cracked open some 92 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: time ago, and it was all packed with dirt and 93 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: corrosion and crudd and you could definitely say, all right, 94 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: that caliper was definitely sticking on. So, you know, how 95 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: do we end up with a We've got the same 96 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: condition with all new parts. So the calipers, you know, 97 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: the break is stuck on the wheel won't turn, it's 98 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: locked up. I opened the bleeder, some fluid dribbled out, 99 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: and caliper still wouldn't turn. I took the brake cos off, 100 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: just to eliminate my curiosity. Brake wouldn't her and the 101 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: caliper was physically locked on. You know, you talk about 102 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: all other businesses only in order repair. I think, could 103 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: you be in the scenario where you do everything right 104 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: by the best parts, you can get all General motors 105 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: a C. Delco stuff right, and you end up with 106 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: the same symptom that you were trying to duplicate before 107 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: that you couldn't duplicate. Now it's done and you get 108 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: to go and do that caliper all over again, only 109 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 1: in order repair. And it happens, and it's real world, 110 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: and it's when you're down in the trenches and you 111 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: say to yourself, why me, God? You know, you just 112 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: you just get to that point in the game. But 113 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: that's a true story from the shop this week. We 114 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: you know, I went home Thursday night scratching my head 115 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: thinking like you know why, like how can that be? 116 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: How does it line up? And I I've got to 117 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: believe it's proof of the afterlife because somebody on the 118 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: other side is going watch how we screw with them now, 119 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: and we're gonna line up all the marbles to make 120 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: this part go back. And we've all been there, right, 121 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: You've all you've all had that happen in your life 122 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: where you keep thinking like who's reaching over your shoulder 123 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: to make things happen that you just and it's not 124 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: just nought to repair, but I just thought it would 125 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: be a little bit of a humorous way to kind 126 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: of kick things open this hour as we welcome you 127 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: and thanks for stopping by. By the way, Tony, you 128 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: were supposed to remind me about something this week. Do 129 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: you remember it was three ds? The three ds? What 130 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 1: are the three rules of diagnosis? Diagnose? Diagnos diagnose? Because 131 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: we wanted to comment on. I mean, we don't have 132 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: enough time before the break, but we wanted to comment on. 133 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: We had a call last week and the conversation was 134 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: he was having a problem with his car and he 135 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: could buy a man's air flow center for fifty bucks 136 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: at rock Auto. When he would he would he would 137 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: throw that at it and that didn't fix it. Was Tom, 138 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: I remember it was Tom from Rockland County, and I 139 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: don't you know, listen, I get it, that's the way, 140 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: but it doesn't the problem and I wanted to address 141 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: it because I didn't have time last week to address it. 142 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: The problem is putting on a new part. Ergo a 143 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: brake caliper that that's locked on putting on a new part. 144 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: And that's what made me just remember it. Putting on 145 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: a new part doesn't mean it's going to work. New 146 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: means never ever worked. All right, that's what it stands for, alright. 147 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: Somewhere when we get to the other side, we'll understand 148 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: how the universe operates. New means never ever worked. So 149 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, does it, does it qualify? Does it? Does 150 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: it make sense? Then if you think it's this and 151 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: you haven't done any diagnosis, what sort of chances are 152 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: you taking? Throwing apart at it? That one's not so bad? 153 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: The phone calls I love to get from all of you, 154 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: and I love each and every one of you. You're 155 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: all great listeners, and I appreciate what you're going through 156 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: trying to fix the car is and maybe it'll happen today. 157 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: I haven't had it happened a while, but it'll be well. 158 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: I put I put a fuel pump in, and I 159 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: put a fuel pump relay in, and I did a 160 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: fuel filter, I did a fuel injection unit, I did X, 161 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: Y and Z, and I've got about parts in the 162 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: car and it's still doesn't accelerate properly. And my question 163 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: is that anybody diagnose it? And the answer I always 164 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: get is no, I don't want to spend any money 165 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: on diagnosis. You know, throwing parts is not a diagnosis. 166 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: Throwing parts is throwing parts. Throwing parts makes the diagnosis 167 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: harder if you don't fix the car and you don't 168 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: learn anything. So please just think about it. Just you know, 169 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: the next time you're tempted to throw a part of 170 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: a car, play the game of And maybe it's because 171 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: we think we always think things are too complicated. Isolate 172 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: that component. If it's a wired component, it's gonna have power, 173 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna have ground, it's gonna have signal. If it's 174 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: a module, it's gonna have power and ground if it's 175 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: if it's an actual component, how does it work? What 176 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: makes that part tick? Take that thing apart on the 177 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: bench in your head, however you do it and test 178 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: it to the best of your ability. Yes, there are 179 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: times you have to replace things, but there's a lot 180 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 1: of steps that you have to go through before we 181 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: start shotgunning things. Because throwing new it, throwing new it 182 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: a car doesn't mean we're gonna end up happy. You 183 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: end up you might be ending up having to talk 184 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: to me. And that's u that's just that's just part 185 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: of the diagnosis. Soy five five zero nine zero. I'm 186 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: on any of the car doctor. I'll be back right 187 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back, We're on of the car doctorate 188 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: five five zero zero the phone number. Let's kick the 189 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: garage doors open. Let's go over and talk to Jeff 190 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, nine Chevy Silverado Jeff. Welcome back, sir. What's 191 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: going on here? On? Good to hear from you. Thank you, sir? 192 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: What's cooking? I heard your deal that you had this 193 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: week at your shop, and I believe I got off 194 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: real easy. Yeah, let me tell you it's and that's 195 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: not that's not the half of what we had at 196 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: the shop this week. We had a Um, well, you 197 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: tell you what. You tell me your story, right, then 198 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you mine. Um, what can I do for 199 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: you today? Well, I had this I had previously talked 200 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: to you about this thing, and I had you had 201 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: mentioned that seven was the first year for the two 202 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: stage pressure of steering. Yeah. Yeah, Well you told me 203 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: that you ran into that once and ended up changing 204 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: the steering sector and the whole works. And I contacted 205 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: a local salvage yard. I'm surprised at home prevalent this 206 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: problem is. But how little people know about it. And um, 207 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: I first went to a GM dealer to try to 208 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: buy the pressure sensor or pressure switch that goes on 209 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: the back of the steering reservoir. And you you can't 210 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: get that now. Yeah. So I had already changed the 211 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: speed sensor at the base of the steering column. That 212 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: didn't do any good. So I went to the salvage 213 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: yard and the guy had thirty one of these pumps 214 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: at put my truck, and he didn't even know that 215 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: this was an issue. But for forty eight bucks, I 216 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: gotta chip to my door and a cured the problem. 217 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: Bing bang boom. Yeah, and you put on it, you 218 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: put on a non you put on a non pump 219 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: or a different switch. No, I put the same thing 220 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: on that I had already, um, just a different one. 221 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: So apparently my switch must have gone bad. Yeah, and 222 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: that's and you know this is now think of it 223 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: like this, all right, here's such a simple you know, 224 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: it's just steering related and the truck is undrivable as 225 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: a result. Well, you could crave it, but you had 226 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: to be pretty during later on the you know kind 227 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: of like weight knuckles on the wheel, right, and what's 228 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Maybe it won't be a nineties seven, but 229 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen ten years from now when some vehicle 230 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: on the road today needs a vital electronic component to 231 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: run and operate, and for the forty eight dollar part 232 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: that you won't be able to get time to buy 233 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: a new car. Yeah, that's that's good. Frustrating with. I 234 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: had a friend his daughter in mop but the for 235 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: focus I think it was. And this fellow has an 236 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: engine shop where he does rebuilding, headwork and the whole works. 237 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: And they told him when when she bought the car, 238 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: he says, well, if anything goes wrong with this thing, 239 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: take the license place off of it, in the battery 240 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: out of it. That you can't buy any engine parts 241 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, and that's I did a I did 242 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: an intake manifold yesterday on a two thousand three Mustang 243 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: g t V eight four six. And you know, the 244 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: intake was leaking up front. The cooling head created some 245 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: rott and it rotted through the plastic down where the 246 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: thermostat housing meets the top of the head. So we 247 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: were going to do an intake because the the the 248 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: intake itself was was so brittle. One of the heater 249 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: hoses where it clamps on. When I pulled the hose 250 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: off disassembling it to do the gas at the the 251 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: actual nipple just came right off with it. I mean, 252 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: it was just so the plastic was just so brittle 253 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: and used up. But the short, the short version of 254 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: the long story is the rear coolant port at the 255 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: back of the driver's side cylinder head. You could see 256 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: how the coolant had gotten acidic and etched into the aluminum, 257 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: and it actually it actually rotted away. Probably it took 258 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: an eighth of an inch of off the corner. And 259 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, the only way you could really fix that 260 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: legitimate is you you'd have to tig weld and then 261 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: resurface it back smooth again. And you know what do 262 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: you do? I wish you could talk with this friend 263 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: of mine that has this engine shot because it's so 264 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: interesting to me. I I hang around on there quite 265 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: a bit, and and what you were talking about with 266 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: the great caliper and the car coming back and stuff. 267 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: He just goes off. Sometimes he says, I don't want 268 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: to work on cars anymore. He likes doing the machine work, 269 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: building the engines, but he actually working on the vehicles. 270 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: It's frustrating him too, the pe so and like you said, 271 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: with the parts, Um, we had a we had a 272 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: friend with an to three quarter tons Chevy truck turning 273 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: around in one of our buddies driveways and he heard 274 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: her snap and the lower ball joint at the whitest 275 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: part of the stud broke. Great clean off and how 276 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: old does the ball joint. I'm not sure if it's 277 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: been replaced. Her food was the original, but I mean 278 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: he didn't hit anything, he was just turning her own 279 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: and it broke. And I think part of the problem 280 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: is that we're just expected to replace cars that that 281 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: it's that it's it's it's so easy. Uh you know 282 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: it's not so George Orwellian. And maybe I'm dating myself 283 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: by using that title, but I really see the day 284 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: where you'll be driving down the road. Do do do do? 285 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: Do the car stops? Gee, I I can't get it started. 286 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: You're going to just pull the plates off it. Uber 287 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: is gonna come along pick you up, and somebody's gonna 288 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: come along and pick up your car and scrap it 289 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: and just you can go buy another one. Yeah. I 290 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: just saw a vehicle yesterday and oh four jeep Cherokee 291 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: at a scrapyard. I was by all of my iron 292 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: toil from all the repairs they've done during the winter, 293 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: and as I was driving in there, here's this steep 294 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: Cherokee that doesn't look like it's got anything wrong with it. 295 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: It's sitting on the ground with no wheels on it. 296 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: And I inquired about it and they said, well, the 297 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: engine is bad, and I said, well, but it looks nice. 298 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: And apparently, um, once they get to that point there 299 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: aren't too many engines. Theyre wrong for those because they 300 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: go a long ways. And the guy said, it isn't 301 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: worth fixing, you know, it's it's it's funny how often 302 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: we get rid of things, And um, I think it's 303 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: a reflection, you know, I think about the Second World War. 304 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: Can you imagine, you know, two they stopped making cars 305 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: and you basically you may do with what you had 306 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: to do. There's a there's a picture in one of 307 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: the books I have on the Second World War talking 308 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: about the home front, and the husband is backing the 309 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: car out of the garage to go to work in 310 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: the morning, and him he's outside pushing and his wife 311 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: is pushing the car. They have to push it because 312 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: reverse broke. It was a manual transmission reverse broke and 313 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: no parts were available. So we went from a nation 314 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: of will push it to get it to work, so 315 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: we can get to work. Two, in my opinion, the 316 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: gas tanks empty, it needs breaks, the ash trace full. 317 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: Let's just go buy a new car. Yeah, and it's 318 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: gonna come back to bite us. I don't know if 319 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: it'll come back in this generation, but it'll come back. 320 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: It'll come back at some point, so we should be 321 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: more like two. But I saw footage on TV yesterday 322 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: they're still well. The thing I always think about is 323 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: if we didn't get rid of cars so often, where 324 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: would our economy be Because it is our economy based 325 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: on and I realized, this isn't you know it's this 326 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: isn't car show stuff, but in the way it is. 327 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: I said to someone the other day, we were talking 328 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: about it, and I said, do you realize how big 329 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: the automobile industry is in this country? And I believe 330 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: we are the number two or number three segment of 331 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: the economy. You take auto repair out of the equation. 332 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Um, you know it's it's a matter 333 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 1: of fact. I was talking to a carpenter builder. We 334 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: were talking about it, and I think it's I think 335 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: I think housing in real estate is, you know, number one. 336 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: Then it's cars, and then home renovations. That kind of 337 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: thing gets into the number three and somewhere kids in 338 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: college and all the industry that that's become is so 339 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: it was somewhere in the top five. All these things 340 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: are mixed up. But start thinking about we don't have 341 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: auto repair shops anymore. Think about all the little businesses 342 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: that are affected. All right, we don't need that. We 343 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: don't need the corner store making sandwiches for for lunch. 344 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: We don't need the uniform company. We don't need any 345 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: sort of insurance for these workmen's camp garage keepers, health 346 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: insurance for the employees. We don't need the work shoes anymore. 347 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 1: We don't need the snap on truck, the mac tool truck. Um, 348 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: it's it's it's pretty staggering what order repair represents. So 349 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: but anyway, Jeff, I appreciate the call. I'm glad your 350 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: truck is fixed, and thanks for being part of the 351 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: car doctor family. I'm ron Ani in the car Doctor. 352 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away. Oh, God, 353 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: that's right. If you call and we're not live, you 354 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: can leave a message and we'll call you back to 355 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: get you on the air with Ron eight five five 356 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: five zero nine nine zero zero. Speaking of Ron here, 357 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: he is welcome back at any of the Car Doctor 358 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: right five five zero nine nine zero zero if you 359 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: need me during the week. By the way, Ron at 360 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: Car Doctor show dot com. Gloria, you're still there. I'm 361 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: still here, and I have a two thousand Toyotas silara 362 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: four cylinder hundred fifty six thousand miles just broken. I 363 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: can't just broken in just broken. I thought you said 364 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: I just heard just broken. Well, you know what, when 365 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: I pumped gas, it clicks off all the time. I 366 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: like to spend days trying to get fifteen dollars worth 367 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: of gas in my car. I get frustrated and I 368 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: just leave the gas station. You know. So it's been diagnosis. 369 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: Maybe it could be spiders. This was from the dealer, 370 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: and I walked away with two hundred dollar bill but 371 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: no answer. So other people say it could be a 372 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,719 Speaker 1: crimped wire. But I cannot hold the nozzle. I have 373 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: to hold it very loosely, let gas go in and 374 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: then pull it out a lot. So okay, let me 375 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. And this is no, 376 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: this is not meant to be an insult. You remember 377 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: the days when you'd open a soda can. With a 378 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: can open, you had open up both sides, right, you 379 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: have to. You have to open up one side to 380 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: pour the soda and open up the other side. If 381 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: you don't didn't open up the other side, the soda 382 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: don't pour out of the can. Right. Oh, I don't 383 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: recall that, but I remember that. Geez, I remember that. 384 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: That was like it feels like yesterday. Yeah, you don't remember. 385 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: That's you know, well I heard see I heard senior 386 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: citizen before, so I assumed I apologize. Um, but yeah, 387 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: the idea about equal pressure, so gas tanks and gas 388 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: cans are are really the same way. When when you're 389 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: putting fuel in the tank, you know you're you're you're 390 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: building pressure and a closed container. So they have to 391 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: have a wight to vent that. They have to have 392 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: a way to let the pressure out of the tank 393 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: to put it somewhere so that you can displace the 394 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: fumes with fuel. Right, makes sense, So that you know 395 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: there's a couple of things involved here, there's a vent line, 396 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: which is a vent it's it's imagined the dryer in 397 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: your house, if it didn't have a vent hose on it, 398 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: where with the hot air go would build up enough pressure, 399 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: enough heat and eventually would be a problem. So they 400 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: put a ventos on the gas tank to the fumes 401 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: and allow them to be pushed into a charcoal canister 402 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: for storage. Okay, So one of the things we would 403 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: do to diagnosis is is find the vent line which 404 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: is either going to be on top of the tank, 405 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: might have access there around the tank area, or at 406 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: the top of the filler neck and just disconnected. Go 407 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 1: to the gas station, try and put gas in it. 408 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: If if you can put gas in it, the problem 409 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: is in the ventos down either in the canister, the 410 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: ventos the vent all right, but at least it's on 411 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: that side of the system. If you still can't put 412 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: fuel in it, then there's probably a problem with the 413 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: filler neck itself. The fillernecks on a lot of cars 414 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: and yours, there's no exception. Are there there there two 415 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: piece There's an inner and outer sleeve on a lot 416 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: of the cars today. And what will happen is the 417 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: inner sleeve has a clamp where it goes to the neck, 418 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: and that amp comes loose and the inner hose falls off. 419 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: You can still put fuel in the tank, but this 420 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: this inner sleeve being displaced now creates pressure and it 421 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: causes the pump the click off on a repeated basis 422 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: click click click click click click. Uh, you know when 423 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: it won't allow you to put fuel in the tank. 424 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: But it's just a simple process. It's not that difficult 425 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: to really resolve. You know, they've just got to they've 426 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: just got to understand it. It all comes back to 427 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: the basics of you know, pressure in, pressure out. It's 428 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: got to go somewhere. So where is it getting stuck 429 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: that it's kicking off the hose like that? Okay? And 430 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: and would that require that it be put up on 431 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: a lift or could they do it now? They need 432 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: to put it they need to put it up on 433 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: a lift. They would need to put it up on 434 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: a lift, and then they need some time with it. Obviously. 435 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: You know, I would make an appointment with a mechanic, 436 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: take it to him with a quarter tank of fuel 437 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. Number one, he's gonna have 438 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: to put some fuel in it during the process. And 439 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: number two, if if for some reason there's a problem 440 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: internally in the tank, and that would come up if 441 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: he's got to take the tank out. Obviously easier with 442 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: less fuel in it than more so, all right, And 443 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: if if the mechanic wants to reference this conversation, if 444 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: you want to give him, you know, you can tell 445 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: them that you were on the Car Doctor on Saturday 446 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: whatever it's today today on Saturday to seventeen. Uh. This 447 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: will be up on our website under podcasts, you know 448 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: when the live broadcast goes to podcast and um, you 449 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: were an hour one down around the bottom of the 450 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: hour and they could actually listen to it and take it. 451 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, we never in all the years 452 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm on radio, I never thought of doing that. And 453 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: lately people are telling me, hey, I took my segment. 454 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: I played it for my mechanic and he knew what 455 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: to do, so you know, if that helps him, glad 456 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: to do it. All right? All right, And I'm going 457 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: to leave you with a question and I'm going to 458 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: get off the line. Okay, do you feel that women 459 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: are taking advantage of more than men? Yes? Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, Um, 460 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: but I'll tell you this. We now now, but I'll 461 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: tell you this now. Wait, I'll tell you this. UM. 462 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: One of the one of the things I found in 463 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 1: my twenty seven years on radio and my forty three 464 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: years of fixing cars. Don't tell the guys this. It's 465 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: easier talking to it's easier talking to women. And I 466 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: don't know why women. Women seem to listen better. I'm 467 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: not sure why. I'm not sure if that's maybe I'm 468 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: maybe I'm looking at it wrong. You know, I raised 469 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: three daughters and I'm still married after thirty something years. Um, 470 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: so I've I've learned to, you know, listen to women 471 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: and hear what they've got to say, and it's it's 472 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: a better connection again again, it's the relationship thing. But yeah, 473 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: I think women are intimidated. I think I think women 474 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: have a harder time in the in the doctor's office, 475 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: and I think they have a harder time in the 476 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: police station. For sure. I think, Um, I think they 477 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: kind of get pushed around a little bit. So you've gotta, 478 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta, you gotta worry about him. You 479 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: gotta take care of them. Okay, mechanic movement. I like that. 480 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: Thank you, Gloria, you have a bad bye bye. So 481 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: how sweet right can we do that? We haven't meat 482 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: to a mechanic movement, my mechanic. My mechanic didn't fix 483 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: my car. Right boy, you talk about sexual harassment, that 484 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: list would probably go further out down the line. Um, 485 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: I wonder which is more? So Let's pull over and 486 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: take a pause real quick, A five, five zero nine 487 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: zero zero running any of the car doctor, coming right back, 488 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: don't go away, and the card goes hand. The card 489 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: goes gonna travel name in five going riding in a car. Ron, 490 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: It's time to get back to do the show. I 491 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: don't want to. The song's not over yet right now? Okay, 492 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: then why was that? Let's uh want any in the 493 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: car doctor here? Let's get over and talk to Steve 494 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: and me. No two buick won't start, No crank Steve. 495 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help? Yes, Ron, 496 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you you're a You're a rock star 497 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: up here in main Well. I I wish we could 498 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: duplicate you. Everybody everybody keeps saying that I wish we could. Um, 499 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: I wish we could duplicate me and I could get 500 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: the sleep part of the time, so well maybe, but 501 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: if I was in your neighborhood, I'd walk list to 502 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: buick O to buick UM. I got a couple of issues, 503 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: but the first that came up was that it's got 504 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: a hundred fifty miles on on it three point eight auto. UM. 505 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: It would start, no problem, and then all of a 506 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: sudden it started not starting. Lights on the dash will 507 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: go out, and then I'd leave it alone, come back 508 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: hour a day later, fire right up. No real rhyme 509 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: or reason. Um. Somebody had told me that was a 510 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: neutral safety switch and the transmission and UM, I wasn't sure, 511 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't sure. So I left it with 512 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: one garage for a week. All they did is go 513 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: out and try and start it, which is what I 514 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: could do, and they said every time I tried to 515 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: start it it was fine. It started. Left it another 516 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 1: week at another garage local and the same thing, and 517 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: I said, well, you know, can you guys diagnose this? 518 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: Called up for some moto pots. Um. Somebody had told 519 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: me that it may be the ignition switch or um 520 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: the electronic UM, either the key and the tumbler or 521 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: the electronic. I got prices for that and then they said, 522 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: we'll hold on. It may be that they're not um 523 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: the computer is not reading the chip in your key. 524 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: So I decided that I'd call you and talk to 525 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: you for us before I bothered taking it somewhere else. Again, 526 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: do you ever break a leg? No, you ever go 527 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: to the doctor and you've got a complaint or a 528 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: symptom and it's not necessarily something. You think they're gonna 529 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: check your heart rate and blood pressure, but they do anyway. Yeah, 530 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, let's just get an idea, how Steve, 531 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: you know, let's see what we find. Right. So, here's 532 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: a case where you bring this O to Buick and 533 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: in none of the conversation you had, did I hear 534 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: you say? Now, maybe they did more para to them. 535 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: If they did, did anybody scan anything for codes here? No? Okay, 536 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: because if they had, if they had chosen to take 537 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: your heart rate and blood pressure on a on a 538 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: on a symptom that doesn't indicate the need for it, 539 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: they likely would find a PACE sixteen thirty one A 540 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: piece sixteen thirty one shows an issue with the theft module. 541 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: Whether it be that the theft modules not communicating properly 542 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: with the engine computer or whether the key somebody was close, 543 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 1: somebody was getting in the neighborhood of what I think 544 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: is wrong with this car. It was, you know, not 545 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: communicating properly with the key because this has a chip 546 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: key in it. All right, but at least it would 547 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: give them an indication. Didn't have a friend, I'm sorry. 548 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: I did have a friend or neighbor that had a 549 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: son that came over with a little twenty dollar diagnostic 550 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: walmat jule and that won't do it. Didn't show anything. Yeah, 551 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: that won't do it. A piece sixty one is going 552 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: to be in the body module or it's it's it's 553 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: not it's going to be outside the realm of generic 554 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: O B D two. How many languages do you speak, Steve? 555 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: Just well Bailey? This one? Okay? Well, so you speak 556 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: you speak you speak English? Right, All cars made since 557 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: n speak two languages. They speak English and they speak Swahili, 558 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: all right. Swahili is the equivalent of O B D two. 559 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: So oh so the the conversation now is there are 560 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: certain things that don't translate from English into Swahili and 561 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: from Swahili into English. They're close, but not necessarily right 562 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 1: on the mark. If you follow what I'm saying. So, 563 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, here's a case where this car would get 564 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: a full module scan. And this is an old car, right, 565 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: this is fifteen years old. Sixteen years old. Uh oh yeah, no, no, no, 566 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but that's the approach of diagnosis. So 567 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: I'd be curious if there's a sixteen thirty one here, 568 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: If there's a sixteen thirty one that's telling me there's 569 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: a problem in the anti theft and if that's the case, 570 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: then we can talk about you know, we don't necessarily 571 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: have to start changing lock cylinders and keys and tumblers. 572 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: We can go down at the base of the steering column, 573 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: find the signal line that goes up to the anti 574 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: theft module as it feeds the PCM. We can measure 575 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: the resistance of the key. Go to well what used 576 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: to be radio shack. No, that would have to be 577 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: somewhere else, and uh, get a resistor that matches the 578 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: key and just put it across those two wires and 579 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: you'll be able to start the car no problem because 580 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: it will always see that resistance value. So there's there's yeah, 581 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: there's ways to bypass, and there's a bunch of YouTube 582 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: videos out there to talk about bypassing. And I don't 583 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: think anybody's gonna steal an Otu Buik with a hundred 584 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: fifty thousand miles on it, so but I don't know. 585 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: It could be a nice ride for you for the 586 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,959 Speaker 1: next five years too. They last a long time. But 587 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: let's just yeah, let's just let's just get you through this, 588 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: um and if if this doesn't work, just remember the 589 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: rear window. The froster works really well, and that's important 590 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: up in Maine if you're pushing the car through a 591 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: lot of snow. So uh, you know, but let's do this. 592 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: Let's get it to a repair shop. Ask somebody to 593 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: scan all the modules mentioned p. Sixteen thirty one to them. 594 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: If they don't understand it, tell them to go to 595 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: their information system and look up at P. Sixteen thirty 596 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: one and what it means. This could be anything from 597 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: a bad key to just needing a thirty minute relearned. 598 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: What you talk about time as an element is making 599 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: the car sotal crank again, which makes me think this 600 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: is anti theft related somehow, And then we can get 601 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: into a deeper diagnosis. Next week, you call me again 602 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: and I'll give you a little bit more information. We'll 603 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: get you further down the road, but get somebody to 604 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: diagnose it a little deeper. Look for a piece sixteen 605 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: thirty one somewhere inside that vehicle. And Steve, as always, 606 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: I appreciate your call. Zero zero running any of the 607 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: car doctor coming back right after this. Hey, welcome back 608 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: on any of the car doctor. Let's real quick. It 609 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: over to George and West Hartford, Connecticut, Georgia. I got 610 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: just under two minutes ago. Thank you for taking my call. 611 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: It's UM two thousand two Civic two hundred seventy thousand miles. 612 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: It had a misfire code. UM also at two compression 613 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: tests that there's low compression in UM cylinder four. UM 614 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: two mechanics have told me that UM there's a burnt 615 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: valve in cylinder four. My question is to you, would 616 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: you want to repair this head and replaced the valve 617 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: or would you want to look at a junk yard 618 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: for a lower mileage head to put on this engine? 619 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: Is there a third choice? Uh? Well, and here's why 620 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: I say that. Yeah, here's and here's why I say that, George, 621 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't just want to do the valves. And I 622 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: don't think I want to use a Junkyard head. I 623 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: use a Junkyard head if this one was cracked or 624 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: damaged beyond use, and I had to take it out 625 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: and send it out to a machine shop and get repaired. 626 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: But whatever you do here has to go to a 627 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: machine shop to get you know, the head has to 628 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: be checked for square and cracks, and you know, get 629 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: a proper valve job done, stem seals and so on. 630 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: Here's the danger, all right, You've got two hundred seventy 631 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it, and you are now going to 632 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: rebuild the top half of the engine, and you know, 633 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: everything's gonna be tighter up top, as they say. So 634 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: if there's anywhere indicated in the bottom end, if there 635 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: are any ring issues, now we has stand the chance 636 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: of pushing a little oil and maybe burning a little 637 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: bit of oil and so on. Was there oil consumption 638 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: prior to this failure, yes, there was, So now the 639 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,959 Speaker 1: question becomes where where was the oil? Was the oil 640 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: from the head, was the oil from the rings at 641 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: two or seventy thousand miles? Maybe the answer is if 642 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: the car warrants it, maybe it warrants a replacement engine, 643 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: and and and looking at it from that perspective. There's 644 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 1: no simple way to band aid something like this because 645 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: of the mileage. And you can try this and try that, 646 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: and it's it's a gamble at best. So you can 647 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: just try doing valves. I understand dollars are gonna be tight. Fine, 648 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: you might win. You can stand doing just you know, 649 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: junk yard head. You might win, but you might lose too. 650 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: You got to decide what's the car worth. And again, 651 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,479 Speaker 1: if you put an engine in it, what if something 652 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: else major fails with that? Just dash all your hopes 653 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 1: and dreams. Those are the things you got to think about. 654 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm rondining in the car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, 655 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: they're priceless. She st