WEBVTT - CZM Rewind: The Andrew Tate Story (Part 3 & 4)

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<v Speaker 1>Also media.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everybody, Robert here. First off, we are doing a

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<v Speaker 2>rewind week because I've written two new Andrew Tait episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>but also my Earth Day came recently. We took some

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<v Speaker 2>time off, so we're gonna take this week to replay

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<v Speaker 2>the first four Tait episodes with ad breaks and stuff removed.

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<v Speaker 2>I also wanted to tell you Ed Zitron is in

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<v Speaker 2>the running for a webby for his show Better Offline,

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<v Speaker 2>as is Molly Conger for Weird Little Guys. Please go

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<v Speaker 2>to the webbies vote for them. You can find the

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<v Speaker 2>links in the show notes along with their other links.

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<v Speaker 2>You can also just google Ed Zitron, Webbies, Molly Conger

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<v Speaker 2>Webbys and you will find them. Please do vote for them.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back next week with two brand new episodes

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<v Speaker 2>on what Tait has been up to over the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years and a bunch of really fucked up

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<v Speaker 2>information that's come up. So please enjoy these episodes the

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<v Speaker 2>reruns with less ads, and go vote in the Webbies.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooy, it's stin roll of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Opening up another episode of The Andrew tight pood Yist. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that was incredible. I think I'm gonna try my American accent. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that's not offensive to anybody. I'm Robert Evans.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first and only Boston based.

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast Behind the Past more like.

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<v Speaker 2>Behind the Master's like like Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 4>It somehow keeps getting worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought that was pretty good. I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be more offended if I actually liked Boston,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't. So no, my god, I'm it's so

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<v Speaker 1>bad that I started to fit. My whole face is right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've teared up.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 2>You see a lot of the times we ignore the

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<v Speaker 2>reddit when we disagree with it, but today the subreddits

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<v Speaker 2>filled with Bostonians saying my accent is perfect. So I

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<v Speaker 2>have decided to take that as a mandate to continue

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<v Speaker 2>speaking in a Boston accent. Well, everybody, this is Behind

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<v Speaker 2>the Bastards. It's a podcast. Bad people tell you.

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<v Speaker 4>All about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh whoa. I have a Jamie loftist text that says,

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<v Speaker 1>Butch Jack Tommy, they're on their way through Deadpool DVDs

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<v Speaker 1>that you like throwing stars if you do not stop

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<v Speaker 1>the Boston accent.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Jamie is not really from Boston because

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<v Speaker 2>she's from She's from she's from Huavid Bracton. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't consider that Baston where I'm from, which is I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know the parts of Boston. Look this, this joke

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<v Speaker 2>was always going to run into the limitation of me

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<v Speaker 2>not knowing anything about Boston. The Liberty Bell. I'm from

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<v Speaker 2>the Liberty Bell. So yeah, that's as Boston as it gets.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, they have a really shitty basketball team.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard that about Boston from Bostonians. Yeah. Anyway, this

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<v Speaker 2>is this is behind the bastards we are. We are

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<v Speaker 2>heading into veering into part three of our our epic

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<v Speaker 2>podcast on Andrew Tait that I and all of you

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<v Speaker 2>were cruelly forced to make because he suddenly, very suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>became extremely relevant and all of all of this, all

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<v Speaker 2>of our accents, all of our cross talk, is an

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<v Speaker 2>attempt to distract ourselves from the fact that we unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>have to learn a lot more about Andrew Tate and

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<v Speaker 2>and Sophie.

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<v Speaker 4>Ian.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm about to force a terrible, terrible quantity

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<v Speaker 2>of Andrew Tate video.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I and Johnson, our editor.

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<v Speaker 2>I Ian Johnson, our editor. Hey, champion Sweet Prince, Kickboxing

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<v Speaker 2>champion of the World.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just mentally preparing myself for a bunch of horrific

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<v Speaker 4>Andrew Tate TikTok videos. So let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to mention one half of the DJ group Gladiator

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<v Speaker 1>with our very own DJ Daniel, we have the we

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<v Speaker 1>have the full Gladiator on staff, which is my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>thing to brag about.

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<v Speaker 2>All of these things, all of these things are true.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's also true is that I have watched hours

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<v Speaker 2>of Andrew Tait. The people who live with me have

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<v Speaker 2>been miserable because while I'm cleaning the house, I've just

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<v Speaker 2>been putting on his eight hour long videos where he

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<v Speaker 2>tells people how to how to hustle. Yeah, I have

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<v Speaker 2>broken my brain and now it's time for everyone else

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<v Speaker 2>to suffer. Which could be the tagline of this show. Honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh so, yeah, let's let's let's roll into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do that to people.

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<v Speaker 2>All of our money comes from doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Headphones.

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<v Speaker 2>I am wearing headphones now when.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to eight hours of entertain no.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I mean, the whole reason this podcast works and

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<v Speaker 2>the whole reason that I enjoy doing it is getting

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<v Speaker 2>to make other people miserable after making myself miserable. So

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<v Speaker 2>if I were just hiding all of the Andrew Tait

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<v Speaker 2>and and experiencing it solo. I wouldn't enjoy it as

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<v Speaker 2>much as like when one of my friends comes home

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<v Speaker 2>from a long day of like teaching children at a

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<v Speaker 2>public school and sees Andrew Tate talking about child labor

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<v Speaker 2>on the screen of my TV, and that's just the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that assaults them as they attempt to de stress

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<v Speaker 2>from their day. I think that's beautiful, Sophie.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I know who I owe apologies to on

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<v Speaker 1>your behalf.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh everyone, everyone, Sophie. Uh So let's let's get back

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<v Speaker 2>into it. When we left off there there, Andrew and

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<v Speaker 2>Tristan Tate's webcam sex business, which was essentially just sex trafficking,

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<v Speaker 2>had taken off. They had started making a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 2>and they had been forced to flee the United Kingdom

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<v Speaker 2>after committing a series of sex crimes. So they are

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<v Speaker 2>in Romania now. Andrew Tate will and he's pretty open

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<v Speaker 2>about this because because after this point he starts to

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<v Speaker 2>get a lot more active on social media, particularly Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>and when he's doing these kind of like videos with

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<v Speaker 2>his fans where he talks about how he got rich

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<v Speaker 2>and how to get rich. He'll talk about why he

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<v Speaker 2>moved to Romania, and his explanation is the sex crime

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<v Speaker 2>laws are a lot looser there. It's a lot harder

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<v Speaker 2>to get prosecuted because the government is more corrupt. And

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<v Speaker 2>while I'm not a rapist, I wanted to go to

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<v Speaker 2>a place with more freedom to commit sex crimes, which

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<v Speaker 2>is something a rapist would say, and is in fact

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<v Speaker 2>something a rapist did say, So it was never he

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<v Speaker 2>was never particularly good at hiding it and spoilers. It

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<v Speaker 2>may prove to be a bad idea to taunt the

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<v Speaker 2>government of the country that you've moved to by calling

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<v Speaker 2>them corrupt and saying they don't prosecute sex crimes, because

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<v Speaker 2>Romania does actually have serious problems with sex trafficking. But

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<v Speaker 2>it turns out a great way to get a government

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<v Speaker 2>to take a problem seriously is to taunt them and

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<v Speaker 2>say that they don't care about that problem. When you

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<v Speaker 2>become incredibly famous for committing.

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<v Speaker 1>Crimes, yeah, it's going to be good not to be advised.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a few years in the future, because for

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<v Speaker 2>quite a while this happens. He moves around twenty fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>or so, and for years he's very successful there and

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<v Speaker 2>he's instagramming as he starts to buy these supercars, as

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<v Speaker 2>he starts, you know, hitting the wealth level that he

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<v Speaker 2>can fly in private jets. He's putting all of these

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<v Speaker 2>videos out. He's engaging in stunts designed to draw attention,

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<v Speaker 2>like promising to pay fans ten thousand dollars if they

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<v Speaker 2>show him a good night out partying.

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<v Speaker 4>But the catch was that, So just to be clear,

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<v Speaker 4>all this money is from the website that him and

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<v Speaker 4>his brother are running.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, That's where it starts coming in from. As we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get into and to be honest, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to give anyone a cohesive answer is to

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<v Speaker 2>actually where all his money comes from because he is

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<v Speaker 2>a criminal. But we know a lot is coming in

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<v Speaker 2>from the cam business at this point enough that he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>promising to pay people ten grand if they show him

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<v Speaker 2>a good night out partying, and the catches he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to like instagram beating them up they if they don't

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<v Speaker 2>show him a good time. One fan took him up

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<v Speaker 2>on this and the video has been scrubbed from the internet,

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<v Speaker 2>but the end of it, Tate's like, I had a

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<v Speaker 2>bad time. Now you have to fight me. And this

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<v Speaker 2>dude clearly doesn't want to fight him, and is at

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<v Speaker 2>one point like here, I have to take my watch off,

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<v Speaker 2>and so like Andrew looks away and then he just

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<v Speaker 2>bolts and runs. It's like a beat from a fucking

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<v Speaker 2>jet appataw boofy, And it works incredibly well on Andrew

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<v Speaker 2>Tait because he is We're about to get into some

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<v Speaker 2>of the smarter stuff he did, but he's not nearly

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<v Speaker 2>as smart as he thinks he is, So that's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty fourteen, I think is the year that the Tate

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<v Speaker 2>brothers actually became millionaires. I found a compilation of Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>footage from that time and a YouTube channel called the

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<v Speaker 2>Tape Pill. Yeah, oh yeah, it's amazing. Let me breathe

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<v Speaker 2>in your sorrow Sophie. Mmm, that fuels me.

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<v Speaker 1>N I missed the Boston exit.

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, see that. That was the plan all along,

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<v Speaker 2>get you to miss the Boston This Instagram footage of

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<v Speaker 2>his like first years a millionaire. It's all shots of

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<v Speaker 2>him driving expensive supercars, of the brother's partying of piles

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<v Speaker 2>of cash inside of vehicles, and like there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of videos of piles of cash, of women like cleaning

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<v Speaker 2>for him. He's also really obsessed with showing like servants

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<v Speaker 2>cleaning up for him while he does his videos. But

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<v Speaker 2>Tait's overall image, the way he presents himself is quite

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<v Speaker 2>different at this point. In one shot, we see him

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<v Speaker 2>with a bunch of young women outside of a hotel

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<v Speaker 2>or something. He's got a full head of hair, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's wearing like a pink polo shirt and shorts. He

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<v Speaker 2>looks like a frat brother, which is not the look

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<v Speaker 2>that he goes for. He's kind of going for more

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<v Speaker 2>of like a sex criminal James Bond, which also you

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<v Speaker 2>might just call like regular James Bond if he went

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<v Speaker 2>shirtless more often, and his his kind of modern shit.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's he's he's definitely just kind of he's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of basic still at this point, Yeah, which I found

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<v Speaker 2>kind of interesting. In another shot from this compilation of

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<v Speaker 2>photos and footage, which I again I took from a

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<v Speaker 2>channel called the Tate Pill, we see a young woman

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<v Speaker 2>with Tate's Girl written across her chest in sharpie. Later on,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a woman with Tates with Tates written on her

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<v Speaker 2>as like a tattoo. This is a thing that you

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<v Speaker 2>should keep in mind because it's going to be relevant

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<v Speaker 2>later and Sophie. I put a picture in there of

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<v Speaker 2>the lady with Tate's girl written no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>let him let him see let him, let him take

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<v Speaker 2>this in.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you got that. Ian, You're feeling good.

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<v Speaker 1>He wouldn't make me show this to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, yeah, yeah, now that feels bad, but okay,

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<v Speaker 4>let's keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't say oh no.

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<v Speaker 4>This whole thing is just giving me like Dan Blasarian vibes.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like he like saw a bunch of Dan

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<v Speaker 4>Blasarian videos on the internet and was like, I want that,

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<v Speaker 4>and then he just started doing it. Are you familiar

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<v Speaker 4>with Dan Bazarian? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, Dan Bulsarian, who was like this big right

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<v Speaker 2>wing muscle gun influencer until he was present at that

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<v Speaker 2>mass shooting in Vegas and ran away rather than rendering

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<v Speaker 2>aid to any of the injured people. Yes, yeah, that guy,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Bulsarian. Great guy. Um yeah. I mean think the

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<v Speaker 2>difference is that Tate would never have had a problem

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<v Speaker 2>with running away from a mass shooting because a big

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<v Speaker 2>part of his brand is you should only look out

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<v Speaker 2>for yourself and fuck everybody else, So he could he

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<v Speaker 2>would not have had he would not have had trouble

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<v Speaker 2>handling that situation. Now, that video compilation of Tate and

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<v Speaker 2>his brother when they first become millionaires is like thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of video compilations of the Tates litter the Internet, and

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<v Speaker 2>watching those compilations because he's been deplatformed so much, is

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<v Speaker 2>basically the only way to consume a lot of Tate's content.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you want to consume a lot of Tate

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<v Speaker 2>content for some reason, he's been deplatformed for most places.

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<v Speaker 2>We actually just lost a video where you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>play in here, So the easiest way to find old

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<v Speaker 2>episodes of Tate speech your various interviews is compilation videos

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<v Speaker 2>like the one I found of pictures of him when

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<v Speaker 2>he was first got his millions. That's something to keep

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<v Speaker 2>in mind because it's going to be more relevant later.

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<v Speaker 2>It's ele evidence of the kind of strategy that he

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<v Speaker 2>actually used to get as famous as he is. But

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<v Speaker 2>first we need to get into more of his backstory.

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<v Speaker 2>So in twenty sixteen, mister Tate became a contestant on

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<v Speaker 2>Big Brother, the UK reality show. Well, I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>UK version of Big Brother, right, I think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of versions of it. I don't know. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>watched Big Brother, but he was on the UK version

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<v Speaker 2>of it, and and I don't understand the rules of

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<v Speaker 2>the show, but he came in as an other housemate,

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<v Speaker 2>which means he had to get voted to housemate status

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<v Speaker 2>or some shit. He had to basically like socially engineer

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<v Speaker 2>his way to being able to stay on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he made a big deal about being a

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<v Speaker 2>strategizer and how he had this like elaborate strategic plan

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<v Speaker 2>to get on the house. But before whatever plan that

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<v Speaker 2>was came to fruition, footage leaked of him whipping a woman.

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<v Speaker 4>God.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean this is one of those ones that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little like unsure of because I've seen the

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<v Speaker 2>footage and like it's unpleasant. He claims that it was

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<v Speaker 2>a consensual, kinky sex act, and so does the woman

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<v Speaker 2>that he was whipping, and just based on the video,

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<v Speaker 2>that might be true of this specific video. Again, we

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<v Speaker 2>know he's been physically abusive, there's a lot of evidence

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<v Speaker 2>of that. We know that he's committed, right, this specific

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<v Speaker 2>video may actually have been a kink thing, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why I'm not playing it because I just I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that that kind of thing should be played. So instead,

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<v Speaker 2>let's watch a little clip of Andrew Tait on Big Brother.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's going to give people a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>better of a context of this guy and how he

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<v Speaker 2>was presenting himself in twenty sixteen. So if you've just

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<v Speaker 2>put the link into the chat, yeah, we're gonna this

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<v Speaker 2>will be a good time for everybody, and much more

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<v Speaker 2>pleasant than that video, regardless of what the truth is

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<v Speaker 2>of the video.

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<v Speaker 6>Your take. I'm twenty nine years old and I'm a

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<v Speaker 6>four times kickboxing world champion. I see myself smarter than average.

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<v Speaker 6>I was a chess champion from a very young age,

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<v Speaker 6>in the age of three. My biggest tool is that

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not afraid of anything I have. Don't need the money,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want to be fair, I don't want any

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<v Speaker 6>of that. So I'm gonna be the most emotionally controlled

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<v Speaker 6>person in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Big Brother time is up?

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<v Speaker 6>Andrew, confirm the character trait you have all chosen and targeted,

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<v Speaker 6>and explain your reasons were chosen. Sexies, as we're assuming

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<v Speaker 6>the persons who describes themselves as sexy as an idiot

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<v Speaker 6>and nobody an easy choice.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because he.

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<v Speaker 7>You can tell someone's se.

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<v Speaker 6>We chose him to be an easy choice.

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<v Speaker 2>But so that's Andrew Taate. Yeah, I mean you see

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<v Speaker 2>what he's kind of going for there is like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I'm the most emotionally controlled. You can't like affect me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's he's he's doing kind of a version of

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<v Speaker 2>the thing he's going to be doing. But obviously he

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<v Speaker 2>gets kicked off the show very quickly. I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>on it for literally like a week now. The claim

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<v Speaker 2>is that he's kicked off the show because this video

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<v Speaker 2>of him whipping this this woman gets leaked out right,

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<v Speaker 2>and that like that's why they kick him off. There's

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<v Speaker 2>debate about this within the Big Brother fandom. I went

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<v Speaker 2>through the Big Brother fandom wiki because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>see how are the how are the bro stands responding

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<v Speaker 2>to Andrew Tate? How did they feel about him? And

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<v Speaker 2>they note this quote. Andrew himself and many other fans

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<v Speaker 2>believe if that is an incorrect reason as to why

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<v Speaker 2>he was ejected. Andrew believes he was removed as a

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<v Speaker 2>result after unaired altercations with other housemates got very heated

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<v Speaker 2>and due to Andrew's fighting background, Big Brother feared violent

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<v Speaker 2>repercussions due to this and ejected him from the house.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's interesting that he would admit that because he's

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<v Speaker 2>basically saying they thought I was too violent and dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>and didn't want me to hurt somebody and get the

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<v Speaker 2>show in trouble, so they kicked me off, which I

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<v Speaker 2>actually think might be possible. I am going to say,

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew may not be incorrect there, because I'm big Brother

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<v Speaker 2>and I see the way this guy interacts with people

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<v Speaker 2>and his background. I might be like, we may want

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<v Speaker 2>to get this motherfucker off the show. He seems like

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<v Speaker 2>a violent psychopath.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's also very likely that they just saw that

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<v Speaker 2>sketchy video and we're like, we don't need this. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't need Big Brother doesn't need this pr So either.

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<v Speaker 4>Before he went on the show, was he already kind

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<v Speaker 4>of starting to become face miss a little bit or

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<v Speaker 4>was this kind of like a jumping off point for

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<v Speaker 4>bigger fame.

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<v Speaker 2>I certainly wouldn't call him famous. He was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a semi prominent within the UK, semi prominent fighting sports star.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd done a little bit of MMA too, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was a semi prominent and he had, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think in the tens of thousands, maybe even like

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<v Speaker 2>a couple one hundred thousand followers on Instagram. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>not a nobody, but he's not a celebrity, right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>he's the he's the level of celebrity that you you

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<v Speaker 2>picked to be on a Big Brother show, right Yeah. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>as with so many claims about this guy, obviously, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to say that the Big Brother wiki

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<v Speaker 2>fandom wiki is a great source, but I did read

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<v Speaker 2>through it, and I think it's worth reading to you

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<v Speaker 2>the biography that the Big Brother fandom wiki gives for Tate,

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<v Speaker 2>because I believe it's it's accurate to the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that Tate bragged about in his Big Brother appearance.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's his biograph. Andrew is a member of Mensa that Andrew.

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<v Speaker 1>As the Iowa Writers Workshop, which I was fucking right about.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you everybody who mentioned the message. Yeah, but people

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<v Speaker 1>did that red motherfucking flag.

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<v Speaker 2>Folks who are not on the social media should note

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<v Speaker 2>that people pointed out the Iowa Writers Workshop was apparently

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<v Speaker 2>started by the CIA, which is very funny in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of Sophie being right about it being shady, although I

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<v Speaker 2>will say Robert bly does not seem to have taken

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<v Speaker 2>to the CIA's propaganda, you know about the anti war

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<v Speaker 2>but I guess, yeah, I guess we'll see whatever feel

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<v Speaker 2>about that. However, you want very.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny number of mensa, let's go back to that.

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<v Speaker 2>That is that is more of a red flag the

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<v Speaker 2>CIA writing program. I'm gonna I'm just gonna say that

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<v Speaker 2>right now. Text Jamie about this. Does Jamie know that

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Tate was mint?

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<v Speaker 1>I will text her right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to continue Andrew's bio from The Big Brother Wick.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew was a four time world kickboxing champion. His brother,

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<v Speaker 2>who Andrew claims is his only true friend, trades him.

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<v Speaker 2>What a sad sentence. Andrew believes that a man should

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<v Speaker 2>be able to sleep with as many women as he wants,

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<v Speaker 2>but that does not apply to women. So that's basically

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<v Speaker 2>what you'd expect from mister Tate, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that sounds like a perfect encapsulation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what an incredible guy. So the year after his

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<v Speaker 2>Big brother failure, Donald Trump, you guys might have heard

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<v Speaker 2>of this, becomes President of the United States, and suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>you got fascists in the streets. You got the alt

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<v Speaker 2>right suddenly being a term and everybody's lexicon, and you've

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<v Speaker 2>got this galaxy of right wing and explicitly fascist media

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<v Speaker 2>influencers just blowing the fuck up on social media. Andrew

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<v Speaker 2>and Tristan saw this happening, and they were like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is how we get huge, right, This is a perfect

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<v Speaker 2>place for us to just kind of nest, like one

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<v Speaker 2>of those wasps that lay their eggs in your eyes

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<v Speaker 2>and then burst out. So they decide to be the

0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:09.600
<v Speaker 2>wasps in let's say, Alex Jones's eye. They start to experiment.

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<v Speaker 2>Social media posts bragging about their luxurious lifestyle had helped,

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<v Speaker 2>but that kind of stuff is a dime a dozen now.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew is unfortunately not a dumb man, and so he

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<v Speaker 2>observed the successive guys like Mike Cernovich, Alex Jones, Paul

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph Watson, and he recognized that they were all using

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<v Speaker 2>variations of the same tactic. They would post something deliberately

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<v Speaker 2>inflammatory on social media, or on their own shows. They'd

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<v Speaker 2>have some sort of guests like David Ike talk about

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<v Speaker 2>lizard people, or they would go on this rant, or

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<v Speaker 2>they just do something super racist and that would generate

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<v Speaker 2>outrage and all of these liberal and centrist in left

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<v Speaker 2>wing journalists would cover the horrifying thing that they'd said

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<v Speaker 2>on social media, which would elevate their profile and give

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<v Speaker 2>them free advertise.

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<v Speaker 1>Platforms are they using at this time?

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<v Speaker 2>He is using primarily Instagram and he's going to get

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<v Speaker 2>increasingly big on TikTok. These these the right wing influencers.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's probably best at TikTok. He also, though he puts

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<v Speaker 2>stuff on YouTube for and until he gets banned from YouTube,

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<v Speaker 2>he has like a long kind of video blog podcast

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<v Speaker 2>and that's kind of where he's starting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very it's very it's very interesting. The like the

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<v Speaker 1>similarities to like Steve Bannon using yep yeah, video game

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<v Speaker 1>and and just message.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah. And he's this is very conscious, right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's, he's and this is this is where Andrew

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<v Speaker 2>Tait is smart, right because intelligence is is not a

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<v Speaker 2>broad concept. It's a narrow thing. And he's very intelligent

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to how to build a right wing

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<v Speaker 2>brand online. He watches what everyone is doing and he

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<v Speaker 2>takes the stuff that works best, and he's he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to become very good at this. But you know who's

0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:48.080
<v Speaker 2>even better at this?

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<v Speaker 1>The products and services that sponsored this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>They they have you should see their right wing Instagram page.

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<v Speaker 1>It is offensive what you say that, but most of

0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:05.159
<v Speaker 1>our ads are programmatic and we have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>they are, so that could. I'm excited.

0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:11.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited for the Gold Company to come back. Everybody. Yeah, ye,

0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:22.280
<v Speaker 2>buy some motherfucking gold. We are we are back. Sophie

0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:24.399
<v Speaker 2>is letting us know that Jamie Loftus, who did a

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<v Speaker 2>podcast on mensa, just uh just got the news that

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Tait is a mensight. How does she respond?

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<v Speaker 1>All caps lo o L no way, beautiful, beautiful, perfect reply.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy, happy to have supplied her with this information. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So Andrew starts upping his his appearances on social media,

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<v Speaker 2>He starts integrating himself into this right wing ecosystem, throwing

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<v Speaker 2>out offensive ship and just kind of using that to

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<v Speaker 2>build his profile, to get him invites to be on

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<v Speaker 2>other people's shows. And I'm gonna quote from the already

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<v Speaker 2>in here to talk about his rise to prominence. In

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<v Speaker 2>September of twenty seventeen, he was criticized by mental health

0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:10.159
<v Speaker 2>charities for saying depression isn't real. The next month, he

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<v Speaker 2>waited in on me Too. Saying women should bear some

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility for being raped of you. He has since repeated

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<v Speaker 2>and which, among other incidents, led to him being barred

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<v Speaker 2>from Twitter. The backlash one Tate work and boosted his profile.

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<v Speaker 2>He appeared on info Wars, the podcast of conspiracy theorist

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Jones, was pictured with far right YouTuber Paul Joseph Watson,

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<v Speaker 2>and met Donald Trump Junior at Trump Tower, posting on

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook afterwards the Tate family support Trump fully.

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<v Speaker 1>Maga cool from hell Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he's tic tac towed his way through the

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 2>very worst people in our society. In twenty nineteen, police

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<v Speaker 2>were called after Tate showed up at the house of

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Stuckberry, a journalist who had been critical about him

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<v Speaker 2>online days acts after Yaxley Lennon, that's Tommy Robinson, who

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<v Speaker 2>he did an episode, did the same thing. The incident

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<v Speaker 2>caused Stuckberry's wife to suffer a panic attack and played

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<v Speaker 2>a role in them leaving the UK for Germany. So

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<v Speaker 2>both that's gross physical intermidation of a guy who's criticized him,

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<v Speaker 2>but also he's just doing the same thing Tommy Robinson did,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can see at this point he's not a

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:19.359
<v Speaker 2>figure in his own right. Yet when you are copying

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:25.120
<v Speaker 2>Tommy fucking Robinson, you have not yet ascended, right. That

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the sadder right wing grifters to be

0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 2>following in the footsteps of So he's working on it,

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.440
<v Speaker 2>but he hasn't yet blown his way kind of out

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:37.439
<v Speaker 2>of the pack. All of this controversy, all of these

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 2>appearances on right wing talk shows and podcasts, did successfully

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:44.840
<v Speaker 2>elevate Tait's profile, and he started funneling his new fans

0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 2>towards his new business, one with a wider appeal than

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 2>webcam prostitution. He began offering a series of classes to

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 2>his followers. Initially, this was sleazy pickup artist shit classes

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:58.199
<v Speaker 2>on how to get women. The market for that is

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 2>very crowded, though. Here's how Tate attempted to set himself

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 2>apart from the pickup artist community. From the promotional material

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:09.640
<v Speaker 2>I found for his now defunct PhD program fuck up

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 2>What Yeah, Yeah, it stands for something gross I forgot,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to read you the ad copy that

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:19.680
<v Speaker 2>he wrote for this fucking thing. Andrew Tate is world

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 2>champion kickboxer who owns and operates strip clubs in webcam studios.

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 2>With over seventy five girls working for him. He has

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 2>created a system that allows you to get girls quickly, easily,

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 2>and without spending money. Unlike other pickup artists who have

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 2>the odd girl here and there, Tate has top quality

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 2>that's in caps women living with him and making him

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 2>money full time. This makes him more qualified than any

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 2>other coach on the internet. Do you want to learn

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 2>how to get the odd girl from a pickup artist?

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Or learn how to build an army of women who

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 2>are so loyal to you that they allow you to

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:52.560
<v Speaker 2>have as many girls as you want. More importantly, he

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 2>has a fool proof system for retaining women, having them

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.159
<v Speaker 2>do as you say and respecting you without taking up

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:01.200
<v Speaker 2>or wasting large amounts of your time. As Tate said,

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to tin unless she does everything I say.

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.199
<v Speaker 2>It's obedience and loyalty that turns me on more than looks.

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Whether you're looking to get girls, simply have your girlfriend

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:13.439
<v Speaker 2>obey every command and be fiercely loyal, or learn how

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 2>to live with three or four girlfriends at once as

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Tate does. This is the course for you. So do

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 2>were you go? Guys?

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 1>So do we think? Hitch was his favorite movie?

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Soybe, I don't think you're allowed to make references to Hitch.

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Nobody's seen Hitch.

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen Hitch with Will Smith?

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 4>I have seen Hitch. It's a I mean, you know,

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 4>it's a it's a fun little movie.

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Is the allergic reaction for oh that was? You know,

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:50.400
<v Speaker 1>bring it back? Yeah? Yeah, that that entire thing was disgusting, Robert,

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:51.440
<v Speaker 1>thank you for sharing.

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah it was. When I found that, I just

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 2>knew that was. I did a little chef's kiss, like

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:59.479
<v Speaker 2>I was like I was cooking up some spaghetti. Uh,

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 2>it was good. It was good. Now a big part

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 2>of Tate's branding, and this is the same thing when

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 2>you are an influencer, right, if you're trying to build

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 2>like a cultishly loyal following, you have to use cult techniques,

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:15.400
<v Speaker 2>and that means creating words that were not in use

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:19.400
<v Speaker 2>before you started using them, and or at least repurposing

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 2>words in ways that other people don't use them and

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 2>getting your fans to talk that way. And one of

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 2>the things Tate note knew this. And Tate also he

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 2>had paid attention to guys. You know again, think back

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 2>to our other cult leaders. We've got guys like Keith

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 2>Ranieri who was called Vanguard. We've got l Ron Hubbard,

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 2>who was the commodore. I forget what Werner Erhard went by,

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 2>but we just did his episodes. And for Tate, the

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of name that he had his fans call him

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 2>is top G. And you will see this in a

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 2>shitload of zoomer TikTok videos. I want to play first

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 2>a video for you of him talking to his brother

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 2>about what top G means.

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:00.679
<v Speaker 1>And this is from the Tate Pill you tube channel,

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 1>which all that's.

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 2>The only YouTube channel that I visit.

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, top G and Tate Pill, all those names make

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 1>me want to cry.

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 2>It's good stuff, Sylvie.

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Here's the clip top G.

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Everyone says top G. Kids are now wearing T shirts

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 2>and top G on it. I want to be a

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 2>top G. I want to be the top G. He

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 2>basically trademarket. So what do you mean by top G?

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 7>Top G is an individual who is capable in all realms.

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 4>As my father said.

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 6>Sheer into fatiguability and unmatched perspicacity made him a feared

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 6>opponent in all realms of human endeavor. When you are

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.400
<v Speaker 6>top G, you are dangerous at everything. That's why I'm

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.159
<v Speaker 6>talk to If they were to say to you, you

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 6>have to go on a racetrack and race Tait in cars,

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 6>he'd be like, shit, that's as you have to go

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 6>in the boxing ring and fight Tate, share fight, you

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 6>have to go debate tape ship crely, you have to

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 6>go try and get a girl and takes also trying

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 6>to get the girl. Shit, it's against It doesn't matter

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 6>what the competition is. As soon as they say my name,

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 6>you're gonna be like a fox, my unmatched perstpocacity, my

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 6>ability to perceive, my sheer India believe the fact that

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 6>I never get tired. You add all this together. I

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 6>am a feared opponent in any almost human endeavor, even

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 6>things I don't yet know how to do.

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 7>You do not want to compete with me.

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:10.479
<v Speaker 1>In those things.

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 6>That is why I am.

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 2>So First off, it feels like he wasn't as good

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 2>at chess as he says because his dad had to

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>kick him out of a contest for crying too much.

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Just do do keep that in mind as he makes

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 2>these claims. Now, I don't believe that Andrew Tait is

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 2>a competition race car driver because he has never done that.

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 2>And also by the way I again, because he makes

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 2>claims like this. I went to like race car Twitter

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 2>to see what they said about him.

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 4>And they had.

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 2>A lot of weird There were a lot of you

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 2>run into people making these weird niche criticisms about his

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 2>supercars and how they're not the right.

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Kind of it's a weird thing.

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 2>It's an expensive car that goes fast. And if you're

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 2>a supercar nerd and disagree, you can go to hell.

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Because I enjoyed reading and found it like enlightening reading

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 2>the chess and the kickboxing subreddits. The supercar people are insufferable,

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 2>even the ones that don't like Andrew Tait.

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>So I I do love that. That's Robertson.

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's where he draws a line. It's like the

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 4>supercars just really were too much.

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Because they were like, well, no, you want this supercar,

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 2>not that one. I would never get. I was like,

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 2>you don't like none of you. I'm sorry, I don't

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 2>I you you people. I don't believe.

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I can just imagine these supercar fuckers like

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Tinder profiles. They're so horrible. Their car is there, you know,

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>the car is in the picture.

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I simply don't care. What you have to say

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 2>about his supercars. But what I do care about is

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 2>the fact that as silly as that all is, the

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 2>top g shit worked. And as evidence for this, I

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 2>have just sent another link to the chat. This is

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 2>a protest in Athens, Greece, where what appears to be

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 2>visually several thousand adult men and a number of men

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 2>who are boys marching through the streets of Athens. And

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 2>I want, Sophie, I want you to just play what

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 2>they're chanting. Yeah, this was right after his arrest. Yeah,

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I know what this is. I'm sad. And that is like,

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 2>it's not a I'll say this, that's not like a

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 2>tiny flash mob. There's a lot of there is a

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 2>there is a distressing number of men in the street.

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 1>There's a distressing number of men in the streets. That's

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>in Greece.

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is not great. So this works very well.

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Tate was very successful. And again we've already covered the

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 2>degree to which he's exaggerating and out right lying about

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 2>his competence, But he's successful at pushing a persona of

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 2>himself as hyper competent and irresistible to women. As we've

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 2>already covered a lot of what he says is objectively untrue.

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 2>His kickboxing record was cooked, his businesses are mostly cheap

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 2>scams or outright criminal enterprises. We'll get into that more

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 2>in a second, but it's worth digging into first the

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 2>reality behind the Andrew Tate method of picking up women.

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 2>In the wake of Tate's arrest, a brave nineteen year

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 2>old Romanian woman named Daria Gusha Gusa reached out to BuzzFeed.

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>She told them and provided evidence that in twenty twenty,

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 2>when she was sixteen, Andrew Tate slid into her dms

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 2>on Instagram with a message that read Romanian girl strawberry emoji,

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 2>which I think is a sex thing. The strawberry emoji,

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know what you kids use.

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>When Tate messaged strawberry emoji. All right, carry on.

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 2>On the gram, yes, Sophie, geez, get with the kids,

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 2>get with the times. When Tate messaged her, her Instagram

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 2>bio had the name of her fancy private school, and

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 2>she told BuzzFeed that a number of other girls in

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 2>her class had been messaged by Tate around the same

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>time in the same way. So it seems like he

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 2>was looking for basically just like filtering his responses from

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 2>girls in this private school who were like sixteen, and

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 2>then messaging a bunch of them at once. Daria did

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 2>not respond, but her friends. Some of her friends did,

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 2>and Tate complimented them, telling them how beautiful they were.

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 2>He bragged about his wealth, and he offered to take

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 2>them to expensive restaurants. After a short back and forth,

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 2>he would every time try to meet up with the girls,

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 2>be like, hey, we should meet up right now. Where

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 2>are you I'll come pick you up, we can go

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 2>out and eat. And I'm going to quote from BuzzFeed next.

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 2>None of her friends went ahead with meeting with him,

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 2>she said, and once Tate realized they weren't going to,

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 2>he started to insult them. The second that girl stopped

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 2>replying to him, he starts getting a bit verbally abusive,

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 2>calling them ugly and stuff right like that, just to

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 2>get the reaction out of them and keep engaging with them.

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Guza said, And that's I think useful to go over

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 2>because that's normal shitty guy on the internet stuff. That is,

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 2>there's a guy's doing that. There's nothing special about him.

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't have some sort of secret. He's not irresistible.

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 2>He's just doing the same thing that Like, there's like

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 2>there's a whole bunch of Twitter accounts that like semi

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:17.800
<v Speaker 2>professionally post like screen grabs of guys sliding into women's

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 2>dms all around the world doing that exact thing. Like,

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing about his method that is special or rare.

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 2>He just practices it exclusively on children. And you know

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 2>what he's doing is he's I'm sure shotgunning out these

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 2>requests to so many people that statistically, just like with

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 2>like a you know exactly, it's like one of those

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 2>like email scams. Right, some number of people are going

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 2>to like respond, It'll work on some number of people,

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 2>and that's all he cares about, right, And I do

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 2>think that's important because when it comes to actual pick

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 2>up artistry or whatever you want to call it, Andrew

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Tate is no different than every other frustrated adult male

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 2>piece of shit looking to flirt with little kids.

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you're not special, motherfucker, just like every other.

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, he is just like every other creep behind

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 2>the curtain. Now, none of this, though, is public. During

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 2>the rise of Andrew Tate's social media profile or his

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 2>main online business, which would become Hustler's University. That's what

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 2>he calls this like series of classes and training programs

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 2>that he starts to launch, and it's the kind of

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 2>thing like he is undeniably good at getting people, and

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 2>it's mostly the people who mostly believe this image he's

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.800
<v Speaker 2>crafted are children, right, they are also children. They're male children.

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.920
<v Speaker 2>All of his victims, the women that he the girls

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 2>that he's flirting with, are mostly children or of extremely

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 2>young adults. And the people with.

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 4>Exactly who can't do critical thinking or make like a

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:47.720
<v Speaker 4>big decisions.

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. And the people he's trying to get money

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 2>from are like boys from like I'm going to say,

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 2>age twelve to twenty, and uh yeah, that's that's that's

0:35:58.120 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 2>who this shit works on.

0:35:59.560 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 4>Now.

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I found an eight hour class from Hustler's University up

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:05.720
<v Speaker 2>on YouTube, which is just part one of.

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>His watching around the hut.

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 2>I sure did, I sure did. There are you can

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 2>find a lot of these have been uploaded since his arrest,

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 2>and there's like a hundred of them, like so many hours.

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Doing house chores and then last this.

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:26.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm sweeping, I'm cleaning, you know, I'm standing standing naked

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 2>doing planks on my in my living room floor. Normal stuff,

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 2>your living room floor. Oh yeah, that's the only place

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 2>I do it. So, uh yeah, I felt like I

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:41.239
<v Speaker 2>had to watch through these because Tate claims at the

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:44.320
<v Speaker 2>start that these do contain his entire understanding of business

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 2>and how to make money. I figured watching it would

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 2>give me some insight into the soul of the man himself.

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 2>And boy, howdy did it ever? Oh god, So we're

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 2>going to go into that in a little bit. But

0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:59.720
<v Speaker 2>first you know what we're going to go into.

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh oh, is it an AD break? Isn't an adreak?

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:06.800
<v Speaker 2>It sure is an AD break. It's some products, some services,

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:09.839
<v Speaker 2>the odd product and service. We're going to go into that.

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:13.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do my hustle before we we we

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 2>introduce you all to Hustler's University.

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Robert, that was despicable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, welcome to the potty Pal. We are back back.

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 2>So Hustler's University starts out pretty boring. He gives his

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 2>definition of a business, which is a thing that money

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 2>goes into. Right, that's the only thing a business is.

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 4>So thanks thanks for explaining that. Thanks, I have no

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 4>idea before Okay.

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you. Andrew. Well It's interesting because since

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 2>a business is only something money goes into, if you

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 2>are putting money into startup costs, if you're putting money

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 2>into R and D, if you're paying for things like PR,

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 2>that is all a waste of time, right, because that's

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 2>spending money. A business only takes money in. Now, you

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 2>may be saying, well, but you have to spend money

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 2>to make money. That's like a thing everybody knows about business.

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 2>That's just the way that it works, right, Andrew says no,

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 2>And in order to explain what a fool you are,

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:18.319
<v Speaker 2>he gives an example of a good business that he

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 2>had an idea for. And this first example of a

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 2>good business is starting a website to sell makeup online. Now,

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 2>he says, he's adamant that like, you don't need to

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:28.800
<v Speaker 2>have any makeup, you don't need to have a product.

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 2>All you do is you make a website selling makeup,

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 2>and then you wait for a bunch of people to

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 2>buy the makeup, and then you figure out where to

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 2>get makeup with the money that they've spent on makeup

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 2>that you didn't have before, and then you send it

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:45.800
<v Speaker 2>to them. Sounds like that's genius brain level business stuff.

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:50.439
<v Speaker 2>Start a fraudulent makeup business and then buy makeup once

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:54.479
<v Speaker 2>you start getting money. I don't think that that would work,

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 2>in part because there's a lot of makeup that's a

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.120
<v Speaker 2>real company out there that people can buy from.

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.760
<v Speaker 4>A lot of other options act makeup.

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:06.960
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and I'm sure a lot of people have

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 2>that question. How are you supposed to actually get cash

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:14.439
<v Speaker 2>flow started without investing, without having something to make people

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:16.800
<v Speaker 2>want to buy your makeup? And Tate has an answer

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 2>for you, and that answer is child labor. So I'm

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>going to play a clip from you and as an aside,

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 2>during this clip, when you hear him tell someone to

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 2>wipe down his whiteboard, it's some random cam worker in

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 2>his home. It's a young woman who lives with him

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 2>that he has doing minor chores in the background. This

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:35.360
<v Speaker 2>is the thing that he does in all of his videos.

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 6>Family and friends are actually the best staff you can

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:43.240
<v Speaker 6>possibly get. Now, people say, don't mix friends with business,

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:46.320
<v Speaker 6>don't mix family with business. Can you clean my board?

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 6>Sit here and wipe it, please, don't mix friends with business. Off,

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.720
<v Speaker 6>don't mix friends with business, don't mix family with business.

0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 2>That's a lie.

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 6>So the reason people say this is because people are heads,

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 6>and they can't get along with anyone. They're not They

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 6>can't get along with anybody long enough to make any money.

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:06.879
<v Speaker 6>But I guarantee you have family members right this second

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 6>who could make you money. I guarantee you you have

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 6>a fifteen year old niece, nephew, cousin, brother, whoever, who

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 6>knows more about computers than you do. I guarantee there's

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 6>a fifteen year old out there with nothing better to do,

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 6>who knows more about photoshop.

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 8>Than you do.

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 6>Right now, his stupid ass needs a job, so you

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 6>can start a company right now.

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So that's that's that seems good, right, That's that's

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:41.439
<v Speaker 2>a solid business idea. Have have young relatives and trick

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 2>them into working for you. Absolutely genius, Andrew you are.

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 2>You are the finest business mind of our generation. Now

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 2>he follows this up with his next incredible piece of

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 2>corporate advice, which I think might be of interest to

0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:59.799
<v Speaker 2>some prosecutors in Romania. And I'm gonna have Sophie play

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 2>that one next.

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 6>Don't get legal before you get rich. This is super important.

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 6>We're talking about hustling here. I'm telling you the hacks

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 6>to becoming rich.

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Do not get.

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:16.760
<v Speaker 6>Legal before you are rich, you can fix your legal

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 6>bullshit when you've already made money. It's a shame of

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 6>deleting my word erase to my beautiful makeup diagram. But

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 6>it's very similar to what we were saying earlier.

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 4>I know, so.

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:34.360
<v Speaker 6>Registered for VAT, registered with the tax man, already have

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:37.880
<v Speaker 6>an accountant, and haven't made any money yet. I in

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 6>most of my companies, will make a million dollars before

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 6>I'll even consider fucking around with a tax form, talking

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 6>to an accountant, or registering any fucking companies. All that

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 6>shit is on the layer base until you have proved

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 6>the viability of your company and you have money coming in.

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 6>When you're rich and you have money in the bank,

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 6>then worry about that stuff. Don't waste your time, energy

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 6>and money doing all that legal crap before you know

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:05.879
<v Speaker 6>anything about whether your business is going.

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 4>To work on.

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Don't do crime. That's a crime.

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 7>It's time sink.

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 6>If every time I had to start a company or

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 6>an idea, I had to go register a company, getting

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 6>account and do tax forms, do VAT form, what a

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 6>waste of time. I've started maybe one hundred companies in

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 6>my life. Twenty of them made money. You're telling me

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 6>eighty times, I would have had to fuck around. Don't

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 6>do that. I know so many people who have a

0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 6>company legally but don't have a company in reality, because

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 6>it exists as a legal entity, but it does not

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 6>provide cash.

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 7>A company provides cash.

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:41.720
<v Speaker 6>If you're a street drug dealer, you own a company

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 6>much more than the guy with all the legal entities

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:44.920
<v Speaker 6>which ain't making money.

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:45.799
<v Speaker 4>Do not.

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 6>We're hustlers here. It's the hustler's university. Do not confuse

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 6>this money in what's the lessons I've been teaching you?

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 7>Money in? Where's the money in?

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:59.800
<v Speaker 4>Pointing at the empty white fig written on it, there's nothing?

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:03.839
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, ah oh yeah.

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:07.360
<v Speaker 2>So because people this is an audio medium, he is

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:10.479
<v Speaker 2>like pointing and circling things on an empty whiteboard because

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 2>he's forgotten that he had one of his cam workers

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 2>erase everything on it. Obviously, this is terrible advice, in

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 2>part because if you start a business that doesn't make

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:25.719
<v Speaker 2>a profit and you did not do any of the

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:28.320
<v Speaker 2>legal things you needed to do, there's a good chance

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:31.239
<v Speaker 2>that at some point the taxman will come and say, hey,

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 2>you didn't do all this shit you needed to do,

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and we know that you know now you owe us

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 2>a shitload of money, and because your business failed, you

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 2>owe even more because you broke a bunch of laws.

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 2>That's one thing that is concerning about the advice that

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 2>he's giving. Although anyone who's going to start companies using

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 2>the Andrew Tate advice probably deserves to be in trouble

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 2>with the irs or whoever, so I'm not going to

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 2>complain too much about it. But also I kind of

0:43:57.040 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 2>hope someone in Romania is aware of these videos, because

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 2>I suspect Andrew Tate did not dot the ises or

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 2>cross the t's necessary to make all of his shady

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.840
<v Speaker 2>businesses legal in that country. He was operating casinos and

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 2>strip clubs in the country once he got rich, like

0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:16.319
<v Speaker 2>actual ones, not just CAM ones, So I kind of

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:18.800
<v Speaker 2>think there's a decent chance he will wind up getting

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 2>extra charges as a result of not legally operating any

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 2>of his businesses. Fun thing to brag about, Andrew. So

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 2>the next point he makes in this video of really

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 2>just irreplaceable financial advice is use what you've got, And

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 2>this is where Andrew actually gives us some context on

0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 2>how he started his cam business and why. But first

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 2>we get a little bit more child labor advocacy.

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:47.400
<v Speaker 6>I just gave you the example of the fifteen year

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 6>old cousin who can make websites. Now you own a

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 6>website company, or your fifteen year old cousin who can

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 6>do I don't know fucking who knows what he can do?

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 7>He can mow lawns.

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:57.799
<v Speaker 6>Every fifteen year old can mow lawns. Now you have

0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 6>a lawnmowing business. Bang, tell his stupid ass to go

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 6>deliver some flyers. Drive him round your car, play some

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 6>two pac, chill out in your car, text some bitches,

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:08.759
<v Speaker 6>drive it five miles an hour. Let him drop off

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 6>all the leaflets, and then let him mow all the lawns.

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 6>You collect all the money and just pay him a percentage. Bang,

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 6>you now own a lawnmoaning company. Congratulations, Use what you got.

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 6>I made a lot of money with webcam girls. If

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 6>you're watching this, you don't know that webcam girls. You

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:26.280
<v Speaker 6>can go to a chatterbait dot com. You see girls

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 6>on there on webcam getting naked talking to dudes, taking money.

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 6>That made me millions and millions of dollars. I came

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:34.400
<v Speaker 6>up with that idea by sticking to this principle.

0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Use what you've got so.

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 7>Right now, if you're sitting there, what are you saying?

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.879
<v Speaker 4>And I mean everything this way?

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 6>Have the car, it's on lease. You have physical strength,

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 6>I'll say you're a strong guy. When I was making

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:48.400
<v Speaker 6>my list, I was right and everything now and I

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:52.040
<v Speaker 6>was like, well, I've got six girlfriends. Six girlfriends, so okay,

0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 6>strip How can girls make you money?

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 7>Strip club?

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 6>But that takes money to set up? Remember costs again,

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 6>I cannot get money in.

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:03.400
<v Speaker 7>A strip club without the club.

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:05.439
<v Speaker 6>So I looked at all the costs for a strip

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:07.799
<v Speaker 6>club and realize it's too expensive. Before I could get

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:11.319
<v Speaker 6>money in, it's too big a risk. Remember it's too

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:13.279
<v Speaker 6>much risk. I can lose three four under grand can't

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:16.480
<v Speaker 6>risk that. How can I get money in? How can

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:21.240
<v Speaker 6>I get money in for having hot girls without spending

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 6>money out?

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 7>So my first idea was strip club.

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 4>If I looked at all the costs, I was like, okay, So.

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 6>How why do men send Why do men spend money

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 6>on girls in strip club? Because the girls are beautiful?

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:33.240
<v Speaker 6>They get to look at the girls, see some titties.

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.400
<v Speaker 6>How can I do that without the club? Well, the internet,

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 6>if I put them on the Internet is cheap. This

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 6>is literally how I thought I stuck to my business principles.

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's cheap.

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 6>Start looking up bound discovered the webcam websites, all right,

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 6>So I've already got the girls. I've already got a laptop,

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:52.359
<v Speaker 6>I've already got the internet bag. The day I had

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 6>the webcam idea, the same day I was making money.

0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 6>I didn't spend any money, but I was making new

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 6>money because I refuse to allow myself to spend. Then

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 6>I started making new money in with the webcam because

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:09.840
<v Speaker 6>I knew I had the internet. I knew I had laptops,

0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 6>I knew I had girls. Use what you've gone. Look

0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:15.839
<v Speaker 6>around you, what people do you have? Does your old

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 6>mother need a new jobs Maybe she's at home and she's.

0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:21.959
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, maybe she will because your old mother.

0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 6>If you have a cousin's nieces, nephews, if you have

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 6>a girlfriend who has nothing to do, use what you have.

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:32.360
<v Speaker 4>The most upsetting thing about all of this is, like

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 4>you can see how like this people can fall for this,

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 4>or like the how people could be susceptible to this,

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:42.440
<v Speaker 4>because obviously he's taking it to a sick, disgusting extreme.

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:44.680
<v Speaker 4>But like at the core of it, Like that does

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 4>make sense on some level, if you have a bunch

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 4>of you know, old baseball cards or whatever, you can

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:52.560
<v Speaker 4>start selling them at school and make a little extra money.

0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:55.280
<v Speaker 4>But like, he's taking it to such an extreme level

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 4>of exploitation and illegality that it's like insane. But I

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:02.319
<v Speaker 4>could see someone who is maybe not as savvy or

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:05.120
<v Speaker 4>is really gullible, could be influenced or fall for this

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff. And that's what makes people like this

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:08.040
<v Speaker 4>so fucking dangerous.

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and what's going on here? There's two things going

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:13.759
<v Speaker 2>on here, right, And this is always the case with him.

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 2>It's the case with like the thing the brags, the

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 2>lies he makes about his background. It's true he's pretty

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 2>good at chess. It's true his dad was very good

0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:24.919
<v Speaker 2>at chess. It's true that he was a decent kickboxer.

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 2>And then he kind of uses that core of truth

0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:30.839
<v Speaker 2>and then wraps a bunch of lies around it in

0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:33.680
<v Speaker 2>order to make this persona It is true that a

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 2>lot of people with small businesses use their families for

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:40.080
<v Speaker 2>free labor. Right. There's like laws in the United States

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 2>where kids normally there's a lot of restrictions on how

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 2>they can work unless it's like a family owned business. Right,

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:47.000
<v Speaker 2>if you like own a corner store, you can have

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:49.240
<v Speaker 2>your sixteen year old work it and they're not subject

0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:52.760
<v Speaker 2>to all of the restrictions that like seven eleven would

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 2>be if they tried to hire a sixteen year old. Right, Like,

0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:57.799
<v Speaker 2>there's some differences there. I'm not saying, by the way

0:48:57.800 --> 0:48:59.279
<v Speaker 2>that that's good or bad. I'm just that's the way

0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 2>that it works, pretty normalized. What he is saying is

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 2>like taking that idea and saying no, no, no, What you

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:08.759
<v Speaker 2>should be doing is getting all of these people who

0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 2>are emotionally invested in you and love you and using

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:15.960
<v Speaker 2>them as free labor to make yourself rich, right exactly,

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Like that's that's the class and what he's doing there

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 2>is he's taking the logic of a multi level marketing company.

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:24.719
<v Speaker 2>All of these all of these like Avon kind of

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 2>fucking bullshit companies where they are these different like essential

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 2>oil companies that we've talked about for years on the show,

0:49:33.320 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 2>where like all rely on, Hey, your friends need this makeup,

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 2>your friends need these supplements, your friends need this shitty

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:46.640
<v Speaker 2>low quality leggings, and you can make a lot of

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 2>money getting them to sell and getting them in your upline,

0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 2>and you know, that's one of the things that's ruined

0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:55.000
<v Speaker 2>like the social Internet. Facebook has become a place where

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:57.879
<v Speaker 2>like people you knew fifteen years ago get in touch,

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 2>pretending to be your friend and then try to get

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 2>you to like become a do Terra representative or some shit.

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:06.240
<v Speaker 2>He's using this logic because he knows that it works.

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:10.680
<v Speaker 2>But instead of the thing that is obviously shady and

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 2>that people have kind of more defenses built up around,

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 2>which is like, hey, try to get your family to

0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 2>like buy into this business, what he's saying is like, no, no,

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.520
<v Speaker 2>get him to work for you, you know, offer them

0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 2>like a share of profits or something to which obviously

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:27.400
<v Speaker 2>you know. And he goes into later detail about how

0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:30.360
<v Speaker 2>you can fuck them over on that. But he's he's

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:32.360
<v Speaker 2>he's taking this thing that has been a part of

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:36.319
<v Speaker 2>American grift culture for forever and he's he's twisting it

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 2>in a way that is I think kind of it is.

0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:44.040
<v Speaker 2>It is new, and this is part of like the

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 2>thing that he does that's intelligent, but it's also just

0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:50.800
<v Speaker 2>very transparently awful and evil.

0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very predatory towards.

0:50:53.320 --> 0:51:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Extremely predatory super and speaking of extremely predatory. I want

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 2>to dig into the business genius of Andrew Tate here

0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:08.520
<v Speaker 2>because it is worth going into kind of the inevitable

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:10.759
<v Speaker 2>sort of conclusions you have to make based stuff of

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:13.359
<v Speaker 2>what he's saying. In the example that he's given, that

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:16.239
<v Speaker 2>fifteen year old kid has no reason to give you

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 2>the money that he's making mowing lawns, right because he's

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 2>doing all of the work to advertise and to actually mow.

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 2>You only get your percentage he doesn't mention earlier, like

0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:29.160
<v Speaker 2>one of your assets is being strong. The only ways

0:51:29.200 --> 0:51:31.319
<v Speaker 2>to get a percentage from him are either literally just

0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:34.960
<v Speaker 2>the threat of violence or gaslighting, making him think that

0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:37.719
<v Speaker 2>he's going to make more money than he is and

0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:39.719
<v Speaker 2>that you won't be making as much money as you

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 2>are from his labor. And this is true of the

0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:45.320
<v Speaker 2>cam girls too. His only actual advice boils down to

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:48.920
<v Speaker 2>various forms of robbery. And this is particularly clear when

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:51.799
<v Speaker 2>he starts talking about the profit making potential of Uber,

0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 2>which is already exploitative. But Andrew Tate, I'm going to

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:58.320
<v Speaker 2>play this next clip to you. This is him talking

0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:01.160
<v Speaker 2>about how to use Uber in your own business to

0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:03.480
<v Speaker 2>make money via child labor.

0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:04.920
<v Speaker 7>Rent a car.

0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 6>Find a way to rent a car with unlimited mileage

0:52:08.000 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 6>per month. Tell him he's gonna do ten hours of

0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:11.759
<v Speaker 6>Uber a day to train how to drive.

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 4>Lie to his.

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:14.920
<v Speaker 6>Ass and say that you in the Uber app you

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:16.759
<v Speaker 6>can track and make sure he ain't breaking the speed limits,

0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 6>so you drive safe. Put his ass on Uber, pay

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:21.360
<v Speaker 6>for his gas and keep and give him half the

0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:25.600
<v Speaker 6>money and keep half for yourself. Bang done, Set him up,

0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:28.919
<v Speaker 6>Get him ready. This is shit I didn't plan. I'm

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 6>just telling you things off the top of my head

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:32.440
<v Speaker 6>because this is how I think as a hustler. I

0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:35.440
<v Speaker 6>don't need to sit and think. I just know there's money,

0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:37.400
<v Speaker 6>and I find a way to get the money.

0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:39.840
<v Speaker 7>That's how I am.

0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:42.200
<v Speaker 6>So right now, you've got cousins out there who aren't

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 6>driving Uber. If you can convince them to drive Uber,

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:46.239
<v Speaker 6>well then why don't they do it without you?

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:46.680
<v Speaker 4>Easy?

0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:49.279
<v Speaker 6>You can talk some shit, make some shit up. Hey,

0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:51.000
<v Speaker 6>if you got an Uber account, No, I'll set it

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:53.239
<v Speaker 6>all up for you. Because it's complicated and there's some tax.

0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:55.479
<v Speaker 6>I'll handle the tax. Don't pay no tax.

0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:57.759
<v Speaker 7>Just fly blah blah blah. Get him an Uber, get

0:52:57.840 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 7>him in cars, bang, bang bank.

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>So he just assumes everyone around him is stupid.

0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:09.160
<v Speaker 2>And stupid and trusting. He assumes that, like, hey, your

0:53:09.200 --> 0:53:12.919
<v Speaker 2>cousins probably trust you lie in order to rob them,

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:16.719
<v Speaker 2>So make them work for you for basically nothing, and

0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:17.920
<v Speaker 2>steal the money they make.

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:23.239
<v Speaker 1>They suggested making money off of women. He's sex trafficking.

0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Old mother was thrown around and lit all children.

0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those are his business out. Don't forget the makeup

0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:36.160
<v Speaker 2>company that does not sell makeup. He is god. Forget

0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:40.000
<v Speaker 2>the finest capitalistic mind of a generation.

0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe she's born with it and maybe it doesn't exist.

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Actually makeup. It's so funny that like people talk about

0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:54.360
<v Speaker 2>how smart this guy is, and like, chard he changed

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:57.279
<v Speaker 2>my We'll get into like why people talk about him

0:53:57.360 --> 0:54:00.320
<v Speaker 2>changing their lives and all this shit, but like for that,

0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:03.359
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, what he's offering here

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:06.680
<v Speaker 2>is like, hey, rob your friends and family. It's the

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 2>same MLM thing, but he has and this is I

0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:13.560
<v Speaker 2>think credit seems like a weird way to say it,

0:54:13.640 --> 0:54:16.840
<v Speaker 2>but it is needful to acknowledge this is an innovation.

0:54:17.120 --> 0:54:20.319
<v Speaker 2>The way in which he is telling people to rob

0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.680
<v Speaker 2>their friends and family in order to try to get rich,

0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 2>and it won't work for them. Most of them. This obviously,

0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:29.200
<v Speaker 2>I think this is what Tate does. He has his

0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:31.400
<v Speaker 2>brother work for him and his cousin's work for him.

0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:34.839
<v Speaker 2>If you are the right kind of psychopath, you can

0:54:34.960 --> 0:54:38.000
<v Speaker 2>make money this way. It's just that even of the

0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:41.560
<v Speaker 2>people who are interested in Hustler's University, most of them

0:54:41.600 --> 0:54:43.880
<v Speaker 2>are not that kind of psychopath, and so they're not

0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:46.200
<v Speaker 2>going to be successful, or they're just not a smart

0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:47.040
<v Speaker 2>enough psychopath.

0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Robert, did you say how much people were paying for

0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:50.720
<v Speaker 1>this class?

0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:56.279
<v Speaker 2>So these were It changed over time. At first it

0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:58.960
<v Speaker 2>was like a per class thing. Eventually it's going to

0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:02.920
<v Speaker 2>change to a monthly fee. And obviously actual sales figures

0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:06.320
<v Speaker 2>you're never going to get. But Tate makes like in

0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:10.160
<v Speaker 2>the millions of dollars for all of this. Yeah, off

0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 2>of the version one, and he iterates quickly. By twenty

0:55:13.080 --> 0:55:15.839
<v Speaker 2>twenty one, he ditched the like courses and picking up

0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:19.400
<v Speaker 2>women and running can businesses to focus on this new venture,

0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:21.160
<v Speaker 2>like this thing that he does because this is like

0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:24.160
<v Speaker 2>the early version of Hustler's University, this is the thing

0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:28.080
<v Speaker 2>that works really well. And so he decides, being intelligent

0:55:28.160 --> 0:55:30.160
<v Speaker 2>in a very specific way, he decides he's going to

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:33.239
<v Speaker 2>spin this into the main business that he's going to do,

0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:36.719
<v Speaker 2>and he he opts to in twenty twenty one relaunch

0:55:36.800 --> 0:55:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Hustler's University as Hustler's University two point zero and we're

0:55:40.600 --> 0:55:41.320
<v Speaker 2>going to get into that.

0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:44.600
<v Speaker 1>And it's just what a wonderful innovative title.

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:48.960
<v Speaker 4>It's so infuriating because it's like kind of brilliant, like

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 4>the timing of it, because like twenty twenty twenty twenty one,

0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:53.360
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people are out of work or have

0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:56.200
<v Speaker 4>more free time at their day to hustle, ready to hustle,

0:55:56.360 --> 0:55:58.319
<v Speaker 4>make make some extra cash on the side, and he's

0:55:58.400 --> 0:55:59.560
<v Speaker 4>just like praying on that.

0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:03.800
<v Speaker 1>It's also like tis time away specifically, I want to

0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 1>just emphasize on that a lot of kids are home alone,

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:10.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of kids are are doing remote learning school

0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 1>and have access to whether that be a computer or

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:17.239
<v Speaker 1>an iPad or some kind of digital device, and our

0:56:17.320 --> 0:56:21.839
<v Speaker 1>home alone without supervision, and you know, the the algorithms

0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:23.840
<v Speaker 1>have brought them to and dow Tate and.

0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:26.560
<v Speaker 4>And he got them, and.

0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:29.480
<v Speaker 2>He's he's got them, and he's he's offering them. The

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:32.160
<v Speaker 2>other thing that's happening here too. You know, they're we're

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:35.919
<v Speaker 2>talking around this they're at home is the pandemic. They're

0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:40.240
<v Speaker 2>they're lonely. Also, the cost of living is skyrocketing and people,

0:56:40.400 --> 0:56:42.279
<v Speaker 2>especially in the UK. This is less the case in

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:43.880
<v Speaker 2>the US, but in the UK, where's a lot of

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:47.120
<v Speaker 2>his fans, there's like a financial crisis hitting right, Like

0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:49.520
<v Speaker 2>things have not been great for the last year to

0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:53.359
<v Speaker 2>change over over in the United Kingdom, which is why

0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:56.040
<v Speaker 2>it's so easy to uh to to buy things with

0:56:56.120 --> 0:56:58.759
<v Speaker 2>British pounds right now. Sorry, y'all, it just is at

0:56:58.760 --> 0:57:04.000
<v Speaker 2>the moment, and so Tate is recognizing that, Like there's

0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:07.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of young kids who are starting to come

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:10.560
<v Speaker 2>into the economy and realizing how hard it is to

0:57:10.880 --> 0:57:14.160
<v Speaker 2>just tread water, and so they're desperate for anything that

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:17.160
<v Speaker 2>will give them a hope of getting out of the

0:57:17.280 --> 0:57:20.640
<v Speaker 2>fucking con game that is life under capitalism. And that's

0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:24.400
<v Speaker 2>that's what fucking Tate is is taking advantage of, is

0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:26.680
<v Speaker 2>these kids who are looking for a hack to get

0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:31.040
<v Speaker 2>out of the trap. And yeah, we're going to talk

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:34.560
<v Speaker 2>about what he does next and how well it fucking works,

0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:38.280
<v Speaker 2>and spoilers will have an appearance from Alex Jones in

0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Part four, the final part of this glorious series. But first,

0:57:44.040 --> 0:57:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Ian Sophie, y'all, y'all got stuffs to plugss.

0:57:48.360 --> 0:57:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Ian, what do you have to plug anything?

0:57:50.680 --> 0:57:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Ian h I.

0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:58.360
<v Speaker 4>Would say, uh, just you know, check out Internet Hate Machine.

0:57:58.480 --> 0:57:59.479
<v Speaker 4>It's one of the other.

0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:02.680
<v Speaker 2>More like Internet Tate Machine. Sorry, that's not right at all.

0:58:05.000 --> 0:58:06.200
<v Speaker 4>That's not what the show is about.

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:07.000
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not.

0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:10.280
<v Speaker 4>That's another cools On media show that I work on.

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:15.160
<v Speaker 4>It's a great show with Bridget Todd, really relevant and

0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:20.720
<v Speaker 4>interesting topic about the healthscape that is social media right now.

0:58:22.880 --> 0:58:25.760
<v Speaker 4>And I would also just say plug just being kind

0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:28.920
<v Speaker 4>to others, you know, being a nice, respectful person in

0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:31.560
<v Speaker 4>this world. It's life is already hard enough. It's free

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:33.800
<v Speaker 4>to not be an asshole. So i'd say that.

0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Wow, you say it's free to not be an asshole,

0:58:36.840 --> 0:58:38.920
<v Speaker 2>But if you consider the fact that by not putting

0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:41.880
<v Speaker 2>your mom and your child cousins to work, you're leaving

0:58:41.920 --> 0:58:45.200
<v Speaker 2>money on the table, it actually can be extremely expensive

0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:47.920
<v Speaker 2>not to be an asshole. You can hear more on

0:58:48.200 --> 0:58:53.800
<v Speaker 2>my nine hours series Robert committing crimes using your family

0:58:53.880 --> 0:58:57.560
<v Speaker 2>members as Patsy's University, I teach you.

0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I want to plug. Two books that are available

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<v Speaker 1>for pre order right now, the first of which is

0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:11.800
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0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:14.240
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0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:17.560
<v Speaker 1>social meds for all that info. And also our very

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<v Speaker 1>own Mercurt Kiljoy of Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>which Ian also edits has a book available for pre

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<v Speaker 1>sale also called Escape from Inzell Island. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to plug those two books. Check out both of

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<v Speaker 1>their social meds to get info on that bold and.

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<v Speaker 2>Heroic of you, Sophie, and I want to plug my

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<v Speaker 2>new business course, Crime Guy University, where I teach you

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<v Speaker 2>how to take You got a mom who's out of work,

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<v Speaker 2>You got some young cousins. Look, you can monetize that

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<v Speaker 2>shit through the simple, legal, easy method of getting them

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<v Speaker 2>to sell heroin for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, you know what's really about this business though, Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>then I get eighty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Sophie does get eighty percent, which is why you should

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<v Speaker 2>listen to Sophie's sixteen hour course. That's card literally starting

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<v Speaker 2>a cartel, so that this is sponsored by our friends

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<v Speaker 2>at the Seamaloa Cartels. That's what we called Sophie.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, We'll be back bye, We'll be back unfortunately, bye,

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<v Speaker 5>welcome back to Behind the Bastards, the podcast that I

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<v Speaker 5>just tried to introduce badly.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, and I then completely forgot to start recording. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm I'm great, I'm so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh we do we have a guest? What's the name

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<v Speaker 1>of the show. What's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Sophie, do we have a guest?

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<v Speaker 1>Who?

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<v Speaker 2>Who are we?

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<v Speaker 8>What do we do?

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<v Speaker 2>Where are we?

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<v Speaker 1>This is Behind the Bastard. You're Robert Evans. I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your overlord, Sophie Lichterman. And our guest is Ian Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>our wonderful player.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Ian, Hey, Sophie, Ian Johnson, incredible editor, Sophie podcast

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<v Speaker 2>and feuror.

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<v Speaker 1>The time he's done that, and it's cringey every time.

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<v Speaker 2>Be the last note will not.

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're talking about Andrew Emerie Tate and boy

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<v Speaker 2>howdy are we talking about Andrew Marie Tate. We just

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<v Speaker 2>finished talking about Hustler's University. Uh, and we're about to

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<v Speaker 2>get into Hustler's University two point zero because Andrew understands

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<v Speaker 2>branding if nothing else. But before we get into that,

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to talk a little bit, so obviously, while

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<v Speaker 2>this is going on while he's launching this series of

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<v Speaker 2>online classes and deliberately courting controversy online by saying like

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<v Speaker 2>fucked up shit about women to go viral. He's also

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<v Speaker 2>constantly guesting on every right wing podcast that will have him,

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<v Speaker 2>and because of the world is the way it is,

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<v Speaker 2>info Wars is the first place he's able to really

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<v Speaker 2>get some traction, and he's going to abandon them as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as he can, like everybody who gets their start

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<v Speaker 2>on info Wars, because it's a dead end. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to escape Info Wars and get on. He's going to

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<v Speaker 2>eventually be interviewed by like fucking Pierce Morgan and shit,

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<v Speaker 2>but at first he's reliant upon them. And Alex Jones

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<v Speaker 2>sees the potential in this guy and decides, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to try and make Andrew a part of my business,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the thing that Alex does regularly. And it

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<v Speaker 2>leads us to this beautiful ad for the supplement line

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<v Speaker 2>that Alex made branded based on Andrew Tate. So here's

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<v Speaker 2>an ad for Andrew Tait branded Info Wars supplements. Oh boy,

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<v Speaker 2>oh this is this is a real treat for everyone.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh boy, to get a job, the man, to get

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<v Speaker 7>a job.

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<v Speaker 6>They inflate the currency so nobody can exist any other

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<v Speaker 6>way because it's too expensive. The parents are out working

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<v Speaker 6>all day the school and the internet and the matrix

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<v Speaker 6>raise your children.

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<v Speaker 2>Your children go to school all.

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<v Speaker 6>Day and be told things that you may not want

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<v Speaker 6>them to learn. Then they sit on the Internet and

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<v Speaker 6>read things and watch things you may not want them

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<v Speaker 6>to watch. You talk to them for ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day they go to bed.

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<v Speaker 6>You're fighting with your ten minutes against endless hours of

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<v Speaker 6>the most entertaining programming or the most forceful programming in

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<v Speaker 6>School's forceful on the internet. It's entertaining convincing them of

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<v Speaker 6>ideas that you perhaps don't agree with. I've seen it

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<v Speaker 6>myself on YouTube. I've seen a guy in America driving

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<v Speaker 6>his car and his kids were in the back seat

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<v Speaker 6>and he was arguing with them about an issue, and

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<v Speaker 6>they was like, where did you hear that school? He's like,

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<v Speaker 6>why did the school tell you that that's not true?

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<v Speaker 6>And his own children are arguing with him because they

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<v Speaker 6>learned to in school. Have you ever tried to take

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<v Speaker 6>your children out of school? You'll get fined, you get

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<v Speaker 6>in trouble. No, your kids have to go to school.

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<v Speaker 6>You have to give your kids away to the school.

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<v Speaker 6>If you don't give your kids away to the brainwashing,

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<v Speaker 6>you'll get in trouble. As an all star fighter businessman,

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<v Speaker 6>motivational speak.

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<v Speaker 9>Switches incredible, it is it is, that is like a

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<v Speaker 9>paling here we go, this is so away, I thought,

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<v Speaker 9>and something up.

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<v Speaker 2>No, just us in with like this mix of Christian

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<v Speaker 2>conservative fear mongering and like divorce dad fear mongering. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>it's perfect, it's perfect. And then we get Alex let's go.

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<v Speaker 8>Speaker and philanthropist Andrew Tate has truly earned the title

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<v Speaker 8>of top G. But there's another title Andrew Tait holds

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<v Speaker 8>that has enraged the globalist. He is consecutively the most

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<v Speaker 8>googled man in the world in the last two years,

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<v Speaker 8>and that's because his message is about human and specifically

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<v Speaker 8>male empowerment. Now Andrew Tate is taking his fight to

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<v Speaker 6>I think there's a whole bunch of men in the

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<v Speaker 6>world who understands my value. And if men grow up

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<v Speaker 6>to be like me, you're gonna have a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 6>of people with no criminal record, dedicated athletes.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that's probably yeah, no criminal record.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, buddy jump spares in that video, so first one

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<v Speaker 1>music amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Third of all Jake Paul's face.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Like.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you see the names of the supplements on.

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<v Speaker 2>The yah, let's go through that. That's probably that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was they were like those names from that Like

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<v Speaker 4>other video we watched in the last episode was like

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<v Speaker 4>sheer per per. I don't even know those words, like sheer, predacity, orpacity, yeah, perspecacity,

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<v Speaker 4>those are like the names of the supplements.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Because he's trying to do like a Muhammad Ali thing, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like Muhammad Ali would always describe himself and he's very

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<v Speaker 2>flurid off in like rhyming terms. But Muhammad Ali also

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<v Speaker 2>could back up every single thing he said about himself,

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<v Speaker 2>which mister Tait cannot. But it also doesn't matter because

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<v Speaker 2>it's all about it's all about making making the image work.

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<v Speaker 2>So by twenty twenty one, Andrew Tate's image is working

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<v Speaker 2>very well. He has become one of the most popular

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<v Speaker 2>accounts on Twitter, on Instagram, He's got a pretty prominent YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>He is huge on TikTok. You know, we're talking like

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<v Speaker 2>millions and millions of followers, and combine several billion impressions

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<v Speaker 2>just in like the top g term on TikTok and shit.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he launches Hustler's University two point zero. So

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<v Speaker 2>he had been selling a bunch of different classes. He

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<v Speaker 2>pairs that down and he focuses just on money making schemes.

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<v Speaker 2>And the gist is this, For about fifty dollars a month,

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<v Speaker 2>you get the CLA classes for free, and you also

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<v Speaker 2>get let into this discord.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, for fifty dollars a month, you get the classes

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<v Speaker 1>for free. So but what about the fifty dollars a month.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, sorry, you don't get the classes for free. For

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<v Speaker 2>fifty dollars a month, you get access to the classes

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<v Speaker 2>and to a series of Discord rooms. Discord is like

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<v Speaker 2>a chat service. You can do voice and text chat.

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<v Speaker 2>And basically what he's what he is selling is I've

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<v Speaker 2>built this community of people who have gotten rich using

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<v Speaker 2>my tactics, and if you pay this monthly fee, then

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<v Speaker 2>you'll get to hang out with us and they will

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<v Speaker 2>coach you on how to make money and you can

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<v Speaker 2>watch all of our videos on how to make money too.

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<v Speaker 4>And damn it, that's like kind of brilliant on two levels.

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<v Speaker 4>And I hate him for it because a subscription model

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<v Speaker 4>is just passive income coming in every month if as

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<v Speaker 4>long as you can maintain that subscriber base. And now

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<v Speaker 4>he has other people doing the work for him, other

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<v Speaker 4>community doing the teachings he doesn't even.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to do, and the schemes that he's because he has,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you get to pick like one of three or

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<v Speaker 2>four different money making paths to go down when you

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<v Speaker 2>join Hustler's University. It's a little like a video games, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but and they're all kind of boring. Basically, you can

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<v Speaker 2>choose to either learn how to day trade like do

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<v Speaker 2>stock trading, or learn how to sell cryptocurrency, or learn

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<v Speaker 2>how to run like a copywriting mill where you're basically

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<v Speaker 2>paying people pennies to write like terrible, shitty fake books

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<v Speaker 2>to take advantage of Amazon's algorithm and trick people into

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<v Speaker 2>paying like two dollars for There's also a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>Amazon affiliate shit. A bunch of it involves taking advantage

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<v Speaker 2>of like the ways that Amazon works, And it's one

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<v Speaker 2>of those things. If you watch YouTube and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have YouTube read or whatever the fuck YouTube calls their

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<v Speaker 2>subscription service, which I don't because I'm lazy, you get

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<v Speaker 2>all these like shady ads for people telling you like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna teach you how to make a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>money off of YouTube, or I'm off of Amazon, Like

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<v Speaker 2>did you know that you could get rich, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>creating Amazon affiliate like so with Audible or whatever. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all he's doing. But instead of selling it as like

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<v Speaker 2>this shady video just on how to make money using Amazon,

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<v Speaker 2>he's giving you access to this community of distinguished men

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<v Speaker 2>who all smoke cigars and post pictures of how much

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<v Speaker 2>money they're making. And because all these other guys, again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's taking a lot of these MLM tactics where you're

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<v Speaker 2>surrounding yourselves in this community of other men who are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be bragging constantly that they're making money. So

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like, if I'm not making money, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>because this video is bullshit. It's because I'm not hustling

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<v Speaker 2>hard enough. I'm not taking advantage of all of the

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<v Speaker 2>great advice that I've gotten. It's a pretty clever thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do, and he does encourage his people like post

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<v Speaker 2>your sales, post what you're making this month, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of that's kind of gamed, and a lot of it's

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<v Speaker 2>very scammy, and the same way that like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of MLM stuff is where it's like, yeah, just post

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<v Speaker 2>your raw sales, don't tell people what your nett is,

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell people how much money you had to put

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<v Speaker 2>into the business to make it work. All that good

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<v Speaker 2>stuff Tate again, is barely present on the actual Hustlers

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<v Speaker 2>University discord. But what he does do is when he

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<v Speaker 2>launches this new version of the service, he spins up

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<v Speaker 2>his media appearances and like all these different right wing

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<v Speaker 2>podcasts and hustler culture podcasts to push the store, and

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<v Speaker 2>he also alters his branding. At this point, earlier, he'd

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<v Speaker 2>kind of been indistinguishable from he'd been kind of at

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<v Speaker 2>the nexus of pickup artist and al right, political weirdo,

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<v Speaker 2>but he increasingly pivots to positioning himself as kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like a jacked and rich Jordan Peterson. And I want

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<v Speaker 2>to play you a video that gives you an example

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<v Speaker 2>of that.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's quickly talk about like the red pill the day

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<v Speaker 6>game guys, and this is why they're wrong, and this

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<v Speaker 6>is what they don't understand.

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<v Speaker 7>Listen to me, and I'll teach you how.

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<v Speaker 6>To get girls on tender and I'll teach you how

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<v Speaker 6>to go out and get girls in the mall all day.

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<v Speaker 6>If you are walking around the mall all day or

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<v Speaker 6>you're tendering all day, you are giving out attention. You're

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<v Speaker 6>giving out more than you'll ever get back because you're

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<v Speaker 6>a man. You're giving attention out and you don't get

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<v Speaker 6>enough back. So that's an energy deficit. And the zapps

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<v Speaker 6>you love your powers before you know you're gonna end

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<v Speaker 6>up one of them little red pill doors sitting there.

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<v Speaker 7>The man is you're of an alpha bro.

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<v Speaker 4>You're five foot seven. You're not fucking alpha. How are

1:11:15.520 --> 1:11:16.000
<v Speaker 4>you an alpha?

1:11:16.120 --> 1:11:18.680
<v Speaker 7>You're like five foot at alpha.

1:11:18.600 --> 1:11:22.560
<v Speaker 6>Wa walk into a fucking room of basketball players multimillionaire

1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:23.519
<v Speaker 6>six foot five.

1:11:24.680 --> 1:11:27.280
<v Speaker 7>And talk about how alpha you are because of your YouTube.

1:11:27.360 --> 1:11:30.719
<v Speaker 6>Teen fucking these guys, even a dream Alpha has always,

1:11:30.800 --> 1:11:34.120
<v Speaker 6>for the longest period of human time, meant capability for violence.

1:11:34.200 --> 1:11:37.000
<v Speaker 6>That's what Alipha has always meant. Apex preadit a little

1:11:37.040 --> 1:11:40.880
<v Speaker 6>short dude, All right, of course you are. Let's let's

1:11:40.920 --> 1:11:42.920
<v Speaker 6>just let's not even let's meet, and let's not even talk.

1:11:43.040 --> 1:11:45.160
<v Speaker 6>Let's meet and let's just measure our heights. Let's just

1:11:45.200 --> 1:11:48.439
<v Speaker 6>take a picture side by side of me and you,

1:11:49.120 --> 1:11:52.160
<v Speaker 6>and let's talk about al alpha you are. Afterwards, doors

1:11:52.840 --> 1:11:56.200
<v Speaker 6>so they're giving out energy, they don't get energy back.

1:11:56.840 --> 1:12:00.479
<v Speaker 2>The correct way to get pussy like I have is to.

1:12:00.640 --> 1:12:03.320
<v Speaker 6>Absorb the energy from everyone in the room and then

1:12:03.400 --> 1:12:08.040
<v Speaker 6>expel it in a fireball, a lightning strike of power

1:12:08.320 --> 1:12:09.000
<v Speaker 6>and prowess.

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<v Speaker 7>So all the bitches want to fuck you, and they

1:12:13.040 --> 1:12:16.080
<v Speaker 7>pray you come and say hello. That's how you get bitches.

1:12:16.439 --> 1:12:18.599
<v Speaker 7>You don't go and beg them and give energy away.

1:12:18.680 --> 1:12:22.000
<v Speaker 6>No, you steal the energy from every other male and

1:12:22.040 --> 1:12:24.559
<v Speaker 6>then you expel it in a ball of fucking lightning.

1:12:25.200 --> 1:12:29.320
<v Speaker 4>What's happening behind him sounds like he's been watching a

1:12:29.360 --> 1:12:29.960
<v Speaker 4>lot of dragon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yah, Yeah, Like what the hell is.

1:12:31.920 --> 1:12:32.519
<v Speaker 1>He talking about?

1:12:33.520 --> 1:12:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Behind someone's cleaning his house?

1:12:35.840 --> 1:12:37.559
<v Speaker 1>But why is she so close to him?

1:12:38.439 --> 1:12:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Because he likes to show you that, Like that's a

1:12:41.320 --> 1:12:43.040
<v Speaker 2>big part of his He does this in all of

1:12:43.160 --> 1:12:45.360
<v Speaker 2>his like a lot of his videos. He'll make sure

1:12:45.439 --> 1:12:48.080
<v Speaker 2>that like his cleaning lady or one of his camgirls

1:12:48.200 --> 1:12:50.800
<v Speaker 2>is like doing a task behind him to like make

1:12:50.880 --> 1:12:53.599
<v Speaker 2>the point that he's got all these women working for him, right,

1:12:53.880 --> 1:12:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Like that's that's a huge part of the tap myth.

1:12:57.520 --> 1:12:59.599
<v Speaker 2>But what he's doing here in this video is interesting

1:12:59.720 --> 1:13:04.320
<v Speaker 2>to me. He's he's deliberately, he's he's he's positioning himself

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<v Speaker 2>as the opposite of both these whiny men's rights activist

1:13:07.160 --> 1:13:09.840
<v Speaker 2>guys and of the standard pick up artist crew. And

1:13:09.960 --> 1:13:12.559
<v Speaker 2>he's all this talk about height, let's talk about alphas.

1:13:12.840 --> 1:13:15.760
<v Speaker 2>He is playing two in cells because like he knows

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<v Speaker 2>that very young men, mostly in their late teens, who

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<v Speaker 2>are like angry about the fact that girls don't like

1:13:21.680 --> 1:13:24.840
<v Speaker 2>them and angry about the fact that like they're there,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have all of the money and success they

1:13:27.760 --> 1:13:31.400
<v Speaker 2>think that they're owed that Like that's his that's his business, right,

1:13:31.479 --> 1:13:32.439
<v Speaker 2>that's his fucking bread.

1:13:32.479 --> 1:13:35.880
<v Speaker 1>And butter, and is he why is he choosing to

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<v Speaker 1>like alienate all the short people.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not, He's not. This is actually a two part

1:13:41.320 --> 1:13:43.960
<v Speaker 2>con And what he's doing here is he's getting them.

1:13:44.160 --> 1:13:45.639
<v Speaker 4>So I was gonna say, it's like kind of sounds

1:13:45.680 --> 1:13:48.879
<v Speaker 4>like he's like dunking on exactly who he like is targeting.

1:13:49.040 --> 1:13:50.639
<v Speaker 4>But I think it's probably like a little reverse.

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<v Speaker 2>He is doing, yes, some some negging and stuff right

1:13:53.720 --> 1:13:56.560
<v Speaker 2>to get the to get these guys riled up. But

1:13:56.640 --> 1:13:59.840
<v Speaker 2>he's also so if you remember back, if I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know any of you, read Elliot Rodgers manifesto Eliot Roger

1:14:03.040 --> 1:14:08.040
<v Speaker 2>being the first in cell mass shooter. He talks a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and he, like the entire in cell community, was formed

1:14:10.560 --> 1:14:13.840
<v Speaker 2>initially as reaction to pick up artistry, right, all of

1:14:13.960 --> 1:14:19.240
<v Speaker 2>these guys who feel like there's something inherently wrong with

1:14:19.320 --> 1:14:21.439
<v Speaker 2>their bodies that makes it impossible for them to pick

1:14:21.520 --> 1:14:24.200
<v Speaker 2>up women in an unfair way, or that feminism has

1:14:24.240 --> 1:14:26.640
<v Speaker 2>ruined it. Roger was obsessed that because he wasn't like

1:14:26.760 --> 1:14:28.720
<v Speaker 2>tall enough or white enough, right, that he was never

1:14:28.800 --> 1:14:33.760
<v Speaker 2>going to get a girl. They initially when they were

1:14:33.920 --> 1:14:36.439
<v Speaker 2>like younger, fell into pick up artistry and when that

1:14:36.560 --> 1:14:39.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't work because none of it works very well, they

1:14:39.920 --> 1:14:43.760
<v Speaker 2>became violent, psychopath like, they became violent right, Like they

1:14:44.400 --> 1:14:48.040
<v Speaker 2>decided like not only was the pick up artistry a

1:14:48.120 --> 1:14:50.320
<v Speaker 2>con but all of society deserved to pay for the

1:14:50.400 --> 1:14:54.519
<v Speaker 2>fact that they got conned by pickup artists. Andrew recognizes this,

1:14:54.800 --> 1:14:57.200
<v Speaker 2>and so the first thing he's doing is he is

1:14:57.320 --> 1:14:59.920
<v Speaker 2>going after the pick up artists, right, and he's going

1:15:00.080 --> 1:15:01.880
<v Speaker 2>after it in a way that's going to get all

1:15:01.920 --> 1:15:05.200
<v Speaker 2>these inceel dudes like agitated, but is also going to

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<v Speaker 2>play to the fact that they realize they're being conned

1:15:07.680 --> 1:15:11.559
<v Speaker 2>by these people. And I think that's an interesting choice.

1:15:11.600 --> 1:15:13.760
<v Speaker 2>And the other thing that he's doing, he starts by

1:15:13.840 --> 1:15:17.000
<v Speaker 2>talking about how like you're not alpha if you're not

1:15:17.160 --> 1:15:19.560
<v Speaker 2>tall enough, right, that all, but he's also framing it

1:15:19.640 --> 1:15:23.640
<v Speaker 2>as like these pickup artists aren't real alphas because they're

1:15:23.680 --> 1:15:25.960
<v Speaker 2>not big. And it sounds at first like he's kind

1:15:26.000 --> 1:15:28.120
<v Speaker 2>of going into this it's hopeless if you're not tall,

1:15:28.200 --> 1:15:31.280
<v Speaker 2>you'll never get a woman. That's actually not the claim

1:15:31.360 --> 1:15:33.439
<v Speaker 2>that he's making. I'm going to play you another clip

1:15:33.520 --> 1:15:36.000
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of an extension of his message that shows

1:15:37.200 --> 1:15:40.040
<v Speaker 2>how he's talking to these insell folks. After he gets

1:15:40.080 --> 1:15:43.760
<v Speaker 2>through with the kind of slamming the uh slamming the

1:15:43.800 --> 1:15:46.439
<v Speaker 2>pickup artist crew, and the message that he has for

1:15:46.520 --> 1:15:49.280
<v Speaker 2>the actual people being taken advantage of by the pickup

1:15:49.360 --> 1:15:52.439
<v Speaker 2>artist community is kind of liberatory in a weird way.

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<v Speaker 6>Now I have jenetic gifts, I understand you do not have,

1:15:57.080 --> 1:15:59.360
<v Speaker 6>but I've also worked on my jenay gis.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't just have them.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I worked.

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<v Speaker 7>But even if you, if you did the work I did,

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<v Speaker 7>you'd still be tap one percent, even without the genetics,

1:16:05.880 --> 1:16:07.439
<v Speaker 7>because you have no idea how hard I've worked.

1:16:07.600 --> 1:16:09.240
<v Speaker 6>But the point is, if I teach you how to

1:16:09.360 --> 1:16:12.759
<v Speaker 6>absorb energy from everyone else around you, then you instantly

1:16:12.800 --> 1:16:15.120
<v Speaker 6>become the most powerful person in the room. So there's

1:16:15.160 --> 1:16:17.840
<v Speaker 6>not only so much about being big and being strong

1:16:17.880 --> 1:16:20.400
<v Speaker 6>and having a lambo. It's about absorbing energy and attention.

1:16:21.080 --> 1:16:23.599
<v Speaker 6>So you people do not understand. And ninety nine percent

1:16:23.640 --> 1:16:25.519
<v Speaker 6>of the things people teach you, they teach you how.

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<v Speaker 2>To expel energy.

1:16:27.560 --> 1:16:30.639
<v Speaker 6>You can expel and lose huge amounts of energy chasing

1:16:30.680 --> 1:16:33.639
<v Speaker 6>bitches and trying to make money. You don't get enough back.

1:16:34.120 --> 1:16:36.760
<v Speaker 6>Whereas if you can flip the script, then the whole

1:16:36.800 --> 1:16:37.439
<v Speaker 6>world changes.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what you need to understand, so that right there,

1:16:43.520 --> 1:16:45.800
<v Speaker 1>he's insufferable? Is it that?

1:16:45.920 --> 1:16:49.360
<v Speaker 2>That's this is worth really drilling into and paying attention to,

1:16:49.439 --> 1:16:52.800
<v Speaker 2>because this is an extremely appealing message to the kind

1:16:52.880 --> 1:16:54.880
<v Speaker 2>of young men who are like on the edge of

1:16:54.920 --> 1:16:57.880
<v Speaker 2>where Elliott Roger was right, These children and it are

1:16:58.360 --> 1:17:01.200
<v Speaker 2>these guys they're starting out in the world. Mostly we're

1:17:01.240 --> 1:17:05.000
<v Speaker 2>talking young white teenagers, though not exclusively, but like men,

1:17:05.640 --> 1:17:08.679
<v Speaker 2>and it's hard out there. Obviously, it is still easier

1:17:08.760 --> 1:17:10.519
<v Speaker 2>to be a man or a white man than it

1:17:10.640 --> 1:17:13.439
<v Speaker 2>is to be basically anything else, but it's not as

1:17:13.560 --> 1:17:15.560
<v Speaker 2>much easier as it used to, right, And some of

1:17:15.640 --> 1:17:19.360
<v Speaker 2>that's because things are less unfair than they used to

1:17:19.400 --> 1:17:21.960
<v Speaker 2>be in some regards, and some of it's just because

1:17:22.040 --> 1:17:24.479
<v Speaker 2>the economy's gotten worse. The world has gotten harder a

1:17:24.560 --> 1:17:26.960
<v Speaker 2>number of things. There's a lot of shit's gotten uglier.

1:17:27.040 --> 1:17:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Capitalism has kind of gotten more undeniably brutal, even to

1:17:32.240 --> 1:17:35.559
<v Speaker 2>the chunk of people who were initially being lifted up

1:17:35.640 --> 1:17:38.600
<v Speaker 2>by it. And so these kids get out there and

1:17:38.680 --> 1:17:41.240
<v Speaker 2>shit's not as easy. They're not getting handed the things

1:17:41.280 --> 1:17:43.360
<v Speaker 2>that they're supposed to get handed, and a lot of

1:17:43.439 --> 1:17:47.960
<v Speaker 2>them turn nihilistic, and the radical right has always targeted

1:17:48.160 --> 1:17:52.400
<v Speaker 2>men in this age group and socioeconomic group. And these

1:17:52.400 --> 1:17:55.120
<v Speaker 2>are again young people who recognize and some of what

1:17:55.160 --> 1:17:58.880
<v Speaker 2>they're recognizing, like with Robert Blise Folks is fair. There's

1:17:58.920 --> 1:18:01.840
<v Speaker 2>a degree a lot of atomization in our society. It

1:18:02.000 --> 1:18:04.919
<v Speaker 2>is not encouraged for men to have like intimate friendships

1:18:04.960 --> 1:18:08.960
<v Speaker 2>with other men. It's deeply lonely, it's deeply competitive in

1:18:09.000 --> 1:18:12.400
<v Speaker 2>a way that's really vicious. And these people are suffering,

1:18:12.520 --> 1:18:15.680
<v Speaker 2>and the Right always has has made a lot of

1:18:15.800 --> 1:18:18.759
<v Speaker 2>their early recruitments by kind of coming in and finding

1:18:18.800 --> 1:18:20.800
<v Speaker 2>these men trying to make sense of their suffering and

1:18:20.920 --> 1:18:24.640
<v Speaker 2>offering them an answer. But while the kind of in

1:18:24.840 --> 1:18:29.200
<v Speaker 2>cell youth culture that has been deeply influential online is

1:18:29.320 --> 1:18:34.040
<v Speaker 2>super nihilistic, Tait is reaching out to these people and

1:18:34.439 --> 1:18:37.360
<v Speaker 2>he's preaching to these awkward, nerdy kids with social anxiety,

1:18:37.760 --> 1:18:40.240
<v Speaker 2>but he's offering them a sense of hope where he's like, yeah,

1:18:40.280 --> 1:18:42.320
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to be like me because you're not

1:18:42.439 --> 1:18:44.240
<v Speaker 2>six three, if you're like five to seven, but if

1:18:44.280 --> 1:18:45.920
<v Speaker 2>you put in the work I've put in, you can

1:18:46.000 --> 1:18:48.639
<v Speaker 2>still be in that top one percent, right, it's about

1:18:48.720 --> 1:18:51.400
<v Speaker 2>taking and absorbing energy. And I have these tactics. Your

1:18:51.479 --> 1:18:53.920
<v Speaker 2>genetics are not the only thing that matters. Right, You

1:18:54.040 --> 1:18:58.120
<v Speaker 2>can actually overcome that with enough work and find a

1:18:58.200 --> 1:19:01.680
<v Speaker 2>way to make money and get you know, women, right,

1:19:01.800 --> 1:19:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Like that is actually the pitch that he's making. And

1:19:04.560 --> 1:19:07.280
<v Speaker 2>for the people who are kind of adjacent to these

1:19:07.360 --> 1:19:11.160
<v Speaker 2>in cell communities, that's a more optimistic pitch than they've

1:19:11.200 --> 1:19:13.840
<v Speaker 2>been getting from a lot of people. Again, if you

1:19:13.920 --> 1:19:15.280
<v Speaker 2>spend a lot of time on some of these in

1:19:15.400 --> 1:19:18.479
<v Speaker 2>cell boards, it's dude's obsessing with like, oh, because of

1:19:18.560 --> 1:19:21.599
<v Speaker 2>the my chin is only this wide and not this wide,

1:19:21.680 --> 1:19:24.080
<v Speaker 2>so it's physically impossible for a woman to love me,

1:19:24.280 --> 1:19:27.559
<v Speaker 2>or like I have this like epicanthic eyefold or whatever,

1:19:27.840 --> 1:19:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Like my nose is this size, and so I will

1:19:30.840 --> 1:19:33.919
<v Speaker 2>never have sex and like this is a biological reality.

1:19:34.240 --> 1:19:37.000
<v Speaker 2>And what Tait's actually saying is the people telling you

1:19:37.080 --> 1:19:39.920
<v Speaker 2>this are full of shit. But also like, I have

1:19:40.160 --> 1:19:42.479
<v Speaker 2>a tactic for how you can and it just involves

1:19:42.560 --> 1:19:44.920
<v Speaker 2>hard work. It doesn't matter that you don't have these

1:19:45.000 --> 1:19:50.040
<v Speaker 2>genetic gifts. You actually can overcome that. And this is

1:19:50.920 --> 1:19:53.200
<v Speaker 2>when you start talking about Tait on any kind of

1:19:53.360 --> 1:19:55.720
<v Speaker 2>open forum. Right, You're going to get people coming in

1:19:55.880 --> 1:19:58.840
<v Speaker 2>and saying some version of He's the only reason I'm alive.

1:19:59.000 --> 1:20:00.840
<v Speaker 2>He kept me from killing I sell for like I

1:20:00.960 --> 1:20:04.559
<v Speaker 2>think he's talking to And this is because as toxic

1:20:04.640 --> 1:20:07.639
<v Speaker 2>as he is, finding Andrew Tait, if you are one

1:20:07.680 --> 1:20:10.160
<v Speaker 2>of these young men who might have gone Elliott Roger

1:20:10.720 --> 1:20:13.920
<v Speaker 2>might be better for you than like falling down the

1:20:14.040 --> 1:20:16.840
<v Speaker 2>rabbit hole you would have fallen down before him. That's

1:20:16.960 --> 1:20:20.519
<v Speaker 2>not a necessarily an inaccurate statement.

1:20:20.800 --> 1:20:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, he tricks them into having home.

1:20:23.880 --> 1:20:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. And again the point I'm making here, I

1:20:27.160 --> 1:20:29.160
<v Speaker 2>am not saying that he is a net good. He's

1:20:29.240 --> 1:20:33.679
<v Speaker 2>absolutely not. But when people people who are specifically look

1:20:33.920 --> 1:20:35.760
<v Speaker 2>like we're kind of in danger of falling into this

1:20:35.880 --> 1:20:38.760
<v Speaker 2>in cell rabbit hole, if they find Tait, that might

1:20:38.840 --> 1:20:40.640
<v Speaker 2>be better for them than the road they would have

1:20:40.720 --> 1:20:43.160
<v Speaker 2>gone down. Now that's a small subset of the folks

1:20:43.160 --> 1:20:46.800
<v Speaker 2>who are actually encountering his stuff. But when people make

1:20:46.920 --> 1:20:50.559
<v Speaker 2>that point, it's not there's not nothing there, and it's

1:20:50.600 --> 1:20:53.479
<v Speaker 2>not because Tate cares about saving kids. It's because this

1:20:53.680 --> 1:20:56.960
<v Speaker 2>is how to get money from them, right exactly.

1:20:57.040 --> 1:20:59.600
<v Speaker 4>And it just speaks to again how exploited of the

1:20:59.640 --> 1:21:01.599
<v Speaker 4>whole thing is because you're already you're going after these

1:21:01.640 --> 1:21:04.560
<v Speaker 4>people who are already very clearly vulnerable and at a

1:21:04.640 --> 1:21:07.400
<v Speaker 4>low point, and you're just praying on that and taking

1:21:07.400 --> 1:21:10.120
<v Speaker 4>advantage of it. And it's just like, yeah, it's just disgusting.

1:21:10.560 --> 1:21:13.240
<v Speaker 2>It's all disgusting. But I also think it's really worth

1:21:14.360 --> 1:21:18.800
<v Speaker 2>understanding the degree to which he understands the online ecosystem.

1:21:18.840 --> 1:21:22.120
<v Speaker 1>He's feeding it, right, and that's why telling them that,

1:21:22.439 --> 1:21:26.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, their greatest insecurities don't matter as long as

1:21:26.120 --> 1:21:28.920
<v Speaker 1>they're you know, they try to be like him and

1:21:29.000 --> 1:21:30.559
<v Speaker 1>be bilt off Man.

1:21:30.600 --> 1:21:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, be a top g Yeah. But one of one

1:21:33.840 --> 1:21:35.800
<v Speaker 2>of his big lines is you don't have to be

1:21:35.880 --> 1:21:38.720
<v Speaker 2>handsome if you're scary why, which he means that like

1:21:38.960 --> 1:21:42.000
<v Speaker 2>ugly dudes can get women if they're jacked, which is

1:21:42.120 --> 1:21:45.439
<v Speaker 2>again that's very bad. Although you could argue it's better

1:21:45.520 --> 1:21:47.840
<v Speaker 2>than you should drive a car into a crowd because

1:21:47.840 --> 1:21:51.920
<v Speaker 2>you'll never find love, right, So this is why people

1:21:52.080 --> 1:21:55.519
<v Speaker 2>make that argument. It's not It doesn't mean that he's

1:21:55.520 --> 1:21:58.120
<v Speaker 2>a net force for good because spoiler, he is not.

1:21:58.360 --> 1:22:01.479
<v Speaker 2>He's a terrible person and his own overall impact is

1:22:01.520 --> 1:22:04.200
<v Speaker 2>a ton of harm. But on this specific community, there

1:22:04.280 --> 1:22:06.040
<v Speaker 2>is an argument to be made, and that's where that

1:22:06.200 --> 1:22:10.439
<v Speaker 2>argument comes from, right. Yeah, And again the idea that

1:22:10.560 --> 1:22:13.040
<v Speaker 2>like he shouldn't be deplatformed because he's gonna save all

1:22:13.080 --> 1:22:18.080
<v Speaker 2>these in cells is nonsense. It's just not coming out

1:22:18.080 --> 1:22:21.080
<v Speaker 2>of nowhere, right, because that is where his money comes from. Right,

1:22:21.160 --> 1:22:23.960
<v Speaker 2>That's the group of people he's decided to take advantage of.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do think in the long run he might

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<v Speaker 2>wind up having just as much of a negative effect

1:22:28.360 --> 1:22:30.719
<v Speaker 2>on these kids as the pickup artist's hat on Elliott Roger.

1:22:30.960 --> 1:22:33.000
<v Speaker 2>It just hasn't been going on that long because eventually

1:22:33.040 --> 1:22:35.760
<v Speaker 2>they're going to see none of what he says works, right, Like,

1:22:36.120 --> 1:22:38.519
<v Speaker 2>in the long run, it's not going to work. It's

1:22:38.680 --> 1:22:41.880
<v Speaker 2>just in the short term less nihilistic than drive your

1:22:41.920 --> 1:22:43.880
<v Speaker 2>car into a crowd, although it might still end in

1:22:43.920 --> 1:22:49.280
<v Speaker 2>the same place. But you know who won't tell kids

1:22:50.400 --> 1:22:59.679
<v Speaker 2>to oh boys. So if he just rolled ads, ah,

1:23:00.800 --> 1:23:05.519
<v Speaker 2>we are back. So Tait is kind of while a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of his pitch is laser targeted at young men

1:23:07.920 --> 1:23:10.840
<v Speaker 2>going down that specific in cell rabbit hole, once he

1:23:11.000 --> 1:23:14.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of captures that demographic again, he's an innovator. He

1:23:14.280 --> 1:23:16.519
<v Speaker 2>starts to broaden his appeal as fast as he can

1:23:16.560 --> 1:23:19.559
<v Speaker 2>because he wants to reach as many vulnerable young men

1:23:19.600 --> 1:23:23.679
<v Speaker 2>as he possibly can. And he is a cognizant person

1:23:23.800 --> 1:23:26.680
<v Speaker 2>of the time that he's in. He recognizes there's a

1:23:26.760 --> 1:23:30.759
<v Speaker 2>lot of movement and there's a lot of cultural momentum

1:23:30.880 --> 1:23:34.560
<v Speaker 2>behind certain left wing ideas, including criticisms of capitalism. I

1:23:34.600 --> 1:23:38.360
<v Speaker 2>actually think people don't recognize enough how superficially critical of

1:23:38.479 --> 1:23:41.280
<v Speaker 2>capitalism Andrew Taitus and how much of his appeal comes

1:23:41.320 --> 1:23:44.040
<v Speaker 2>from that. And to kind of exhibit that, I want

1:23:44.040 --> 1:23:46.400
<v Speaker 2>to play a clip from him on the Fresh and

1:23:46.560 --> 1:23:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Fit podcast, which he is sitting in between like eight

1:23:51.160 --> 1:23:56.120
<v Speaker 2>seven or eight women who look like they're all Instagram

1:23:56.439 --> 1:23:58.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of done up in influencer type people.

1:23:59.080 --> 1:24:05.599
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's bullshit, that slave mind garbage feminists, racist garbage,

1:24:05.640 --> 1:24:07.760
<v Speaker 6>crap that's been put in your brain that you need

1:24:07.840 --> 1:24:11.400
<v Speaker 6>to resist. Absolutely nothing to do with Eurocentric's bullshit.

1:24:11.439 --> 1:24:12.000
<v Speaker 4>It's garbage.

1:24:12.479 --> 1:24:14.880
<v Speaker 7>You need to resist that kind of shit. I'm telling

1:24:14.920 --> 1:24:15.800
<v Speaker 7>you the problems with.

1:24:15.840 --> 1:24:19.000
<v Speaker 6>The world today are very, very specific, and I state

1:24:19.080 --> 1:24:20.400
<v Speaker 6>this without patronizing you.

1:24:20.439 --> 1:24:22.080
<v Speaker 7>I don't want to patronize you. I'm an old man.

1:24:22.120 --> 1:24:22.880
<v Speaker 7>I've been around the block.

1:24:23.000 --> 1:24:26.160
<v Speaker 6>The problems in the world today exist because the people

1:24:26.160 --> 1:24:27.800
<v Speaker 6>who are in charge of the world have done a

1:24:27.960 --> 1:24:31.880
<v Speaker 6>very very clever thing. They've specifically designed the world in

1:24:32.000 --> 1:24:34.519
<v Speaker 6>which a way that the people at the bottom, because

1:24:34.520 --> 1:24:36.599
<v Speaker 6>we're all at the bottom, even me with all my millions, right,

1:24:37.080 --> 1:24:39.680
<v Speaker 6>the people at the bottom are so busy fighting with

1:24:39.800 --> 1:24:42.080
<v Speaker 6>each other that we never look up and realize we're

1:24:42.120 --> 1:24:45.519
<v Speaker 6>getting fucked. And the reason they do that the blacks

1:24:45.520 --> 1:24:48.240
<v Speaker 6>hate the whites, Republicans take the Democrats, the men hate

1:24:48.240 --> 1:24:51.920
<v Speaker 6>the women. Eurocentric He said this, you don't have pay

1:24:52.040 --> 1:24:55.080
<v Speaker 6>gap blah blah blah. It's all slave mind shit to

1:24:55.200 --> 1:24:57.240
<v Speaker 6>keep us all fighting amongst each other. Do you think

1:24:57.320 --> 1:25:00.040
<v Speaker 6>when a billionaire who's black meets a billionaire who.

1:25:00.160 --> 1:25:01.639
<v Speaker 7>White, they talk about race.

1:25:02.000 --> 1:25:05.400
<v Speaker 6>No, you think a white You think a female billionaire

1:25:05.400 --> 1:25:08.719
<v Speaker 6>a male billionaire meet they start talking about eurocentricism, feminist

1:25:08.800 --> 1:25:09.599
<v Speaker 6>fucking garbage.

1:25:09.640 --> 1:25:12.439
<v Speaker 7>No, no, stop buying into that ship. It's a fucking trick.

1:25:12.520 --> 1:25:14.840
<v Speaker 7>It's a fucking lie, all of it. Throw it away.

1:25:15.120 --> 1:25:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Throw it the fuck away.

1:25:16.200 --> 1:25:17.640
<v Speaker 7>If you want to be attractive as a female, you

1:25:17.680 --> 1:25:18.160
<v Speaker 7>know what you need to do.

1:25:18.240 --> 1:25:19.240
<v Speaker 4>You need to go to the gym.

1:25:19.680 --> 1:25:23.400
<v Speaker 7>Just because Myron said it just because Myron said it.

1:25:23.720 --> 1:25:24.960
<v Speaker 7>You need to be smart enough.

1:25:25.200 --> 1:25:27.120
<v Speaker 6>You need to be smart enough to not let yourself

1:25:27.160 --> 1:25:29.160
<v Speaker 6>get triggered by the fact that he just said something

1:25:29.160 --> 1:25:30.160
<v Speaker 6>you're not used to hearing.

1:25:30.600 --> 1:25:31.280
<v Speaker 1>That's all it is.

1:25:31.760 --> 1:25:32.680
<v Speaker 4>That's all it is.

1:25:37.000 --> 1:25:40.719
<v Speaker 1>So every second of that it is, it is miserable.

1:25:41.400 --> 1:25:47.360
<v Speaker 2>But he's again, that is a superficial kind of class

1:25:47.400 --> 1:25:50.600
<v Speaker 2>analysis right where he's talking about billionaires all have solidarity

1:25:50.680 --> 1:25:53.760
<v Speaker 2>with each other. Uh, we're all we're all poor. And

1:25:53.840 --> 1:25:55.960
<v Speaker 2>he's again he's lying about this. He is he is,

1:25:56.720 --> 1:26:00.000
<v Speaker 2>he's a multi millionaire, possibly multi hundreds of millions of dollars.

1:26:00.680 --> 1:26:04.479
<v Speaker 2>But you see what he's doing. He recognizes everyone hates

1:26:04.560 --> 1:26:08.400
<v Speaker 2>these billionaires everyone. You cannot ignore inequality and the role

1:26:08.479 --> 1:26:10.439
<v Speaker 2>that it has on Like why all these young men

1:26:10.479 --> 1:26:12.760
<v Speaker 2>who are vulnerable to my message, you're suffering? So I

1:26:12.880 --> 1:26:16.960
<v Speaker 2>have to fucking play to that. Right, and again he

1:26:17.160 --> 1:26:20.160
<v Speaker 2>is offering this kind of he starts with this thing

1:26:20.280 --> 1:26:23.639
<v Speaker 2>that has elements of left wing analysis to it, elements

1:26:23.720 --> 1:26:26.080
<v Speaker 2>of like, you know, capitalism is a con game. The

1:26:26.280 --> 1:26:29.200
<v Speaker 2>rich are a class, and they have solidarity with each other,

1:26:29.280 --> 1:26:31.240
<v Speaker 2>and they're trying to keep you guys fighting so that

1:26:31.360 --> 1:26:34.960
<v Speaker 2>you don't organize against them. There's pieces of left wing

1:26:35.040 --> 1:26:40.320
<v Speaker 2>analysis there. But then Tait's solution is not dismantled the system.

1:26:40.400 --> 1:26:43.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not go after these guys. It's treat it like

1:26:43.120 --> 1:26:46.280
<v Speaker 2>a trap you escape by getting rich and jacked. Right,

1:26:46.680 --> 1:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>that's the way that that's the way it's to say. Again,

1:26:48.960 --> 1:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>look back to Robert Bli, where he's he's very accurately stating,

1:26:52.720 --> 1:26:55.400
<v Speaker 2>here are some fucked up things capitalism is doing the men.

1:26:55.720 --> 1:26:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Here are ways in which capitalism and the patriarchy is

1:26:58.800 --> 1:27:02.360
<v Speaker 2>harming men. The solution is for men to like go

1:27:02.520 --> 1:27:05.720
<v Speaker 2>out into the woods and play drums and learned how

1:27:05.760 --> 1:27:08.720
<v Speaker 2>to hunt and stuff. Not the solution is for men

1:27:08.840 --> 1:27:12.440
<v Speaker 2>and women to organize to make a more just society

1:27:12.520 --> 1:27:16.200
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't harm us in these ways. It takes doing

1:27:16.439 --> 1:27:20.520
<v Speaker 2>a version of the same thing. Like Bli, he's diagnosing

1:27:20.640 --> 1:27:23.320
<v Speaker 2>parts of the problem, and then the thing he's selling

1:27:23.400 --> 1:27:25.920
<v Speaker 2>you is, here's how you personally can get out of

1:27:26.000 --> 1:27:28.519
<v Speaker 2>it by doing this thing that feeds money to me.

1:27:28.800 --> 1:27:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Right, he's insufferable, He's insufferable, but it works.

1:27:34.720 --> 1:27:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And obviously other people are pushing pieces of this

1:27:38.680 --> 1:27:42.919
<v Speaker 2>message on young folks. But his presentation is the most polished.

1:27:43.040 --> 1:27:45.720
<v Speaker 2>He is a good speaker, and I don't mean that

1:27:45.840 --> 1:27:48.600
<v Speaker 2>in the you should like the way he speaks. I

1:27:48.680 --> 1:27:51.160
<v Speaker 2>mean it. And he's effective at speaking and getting his

1:27:51.280 --> 1:27:52.040
<v Speaker 2>message across.

1:27:52.200 --> 1:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>He always the most obnoxious in the room. He's the

1:27:56.160 --> 1:27:59.360
<v Speaker 1>lads in the room, and you make sure of that

1:28:00.160 --> 1:28:00.559
<v Speaker 1>he does.

1:28:00.800 --> 1:28:03.960
<v Speaker 2>And if you watch him with these these young men,

1:28:04.240 --> 1:28:07.280
<v Speaker 2>like these other male influencers on their podcasts, he's so

1:28:07.520 --> 1:28:10.800
<v Speaker 2>good at sucking energy from them, like he actually does

1:28:11.000 --> 1:28:13.639
<v Speaker 2>know how to do that. He's very good at talk,

1:28:13.880 --> 1:28:17.040
<v Speaker 2>not just not even talking over them, but at making

1:28:17.120 --> 1:28:19.640
<v Speaker 2>the focus of the conversation whatever he wants it to

1:28:19.720 --> 1:28:22.640
<v Speaker 2>be and making himself the person that people are focusing on.

1:28:24.800 --> 1:28:26.040
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing he knows how to do.

1:28:26.640 --> 1:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

1:28:27.080 --> 1:28:30.200
<v Speaker 2>And it's it's it's, it's yeah. And I think probably

1:28:30.240 --> 1:28:33.519
<v Speaker 2>the smartest thing he's done in this whole process is

1:28:33.640 --> 1:28:36.640
<v Speaker 2>co opt the Matrix movies in his messaging. And that

1:28:36.840 --> 1:28:40.200
<v Speaker 2>sounds very silly. The thing that Tate does is he

1:28:40.280 --> 1:28:43.160
<v Speaker 2>basically he positions the matrix is the normal world where

1:28:43.200 --> 1:28:46.639
<v Speaker 2>you like work for some company forty or whatever hours

1:28:46.680 --> 1:28:49.120
<v Speaker 2>a week just to scrape by and if you're lucky,

1:28:49.200 --> 1:28:52.080
<v Speaker 2>maybe buy a house someday. And the thing that Andrew

1:28:52.160 --> 1:28:54.360
<v Speaker 2>tells people is that, like, this is what you have

1:28:54.520 --> 1:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>to break out of, right, not not that like you

1:28:56.840 --> 1:28:58.560
<v Speaker 2>have to make a more equable system, but you have

1:28:58.640 --> 1:29:01.240
<v Speaker 2>to escape the matrix like Neo does. And it's just

1:29:01.360 --> 1:29:02.639
<v Speaker 2>about freeing yourself.

1:29:04.120 --> 1:29:08.080
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, for everybody else, it's just about getting yourself here.

1:29:08.120 --> 1:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:29:08.439 --> 1:29:11.080
<v Speaker 2>And once he gets kids to accept that idea, the

1:29:11.160 --> 1:29:12.760
<v Speaker 2>thing he tells them that they need to drop out

1:29:12.800 --> 1:29:14.720
<v Speaker 2>of school and spend the money they would spend on

1:29:14.840 --> 1:29:19.160
<v Speaker 2>college on Hustler's university. That is, that is a massive

1:29:19.280 --> 1:29:21.800
<v Speaker 2>part of his pitch. And again it's it's not hard

1:29:21.880 --> 1:29:24.080
<v Speaker 2>to see why this stuff is appealing to a lot

1:29:24.120 --> 1:29:26.280
<v Speaker 2>of young kids. It's married to some of the worst

1:29:26.320 --> 1:29:27.680
<v Speaker 2>misogyny imaginable too.

1:29:27.760 --> 1:29:27.920
<v Speaker 8>Though.

1:29:28.920 --> 1:29:31.479
<v Speaker 2>He tells young men that they should not learn how

1:29:31.520 --> 1:29:33.360
<v Speaker 2>to cook. That's a waste of time. They should find

1:29:33.400 --> 1:29:35.720
<v Speaker 2>a woman to cook for them. They should focus on

1:29:35.800 --> 1:29:38.479
<v Speaker 2>making money. Women shouldn't be allowed to leave the house,

1:29:38.520 --> 1:29:41.080
<v Speaker 2>they shouldn't have friends of their own. This is all

1:29:41.200 --> 1:29:44.360
<v Speaker 2>stuff that Tate preaches to alongside the stuff that's less

1:29:44.520 --> 1:29:48.280
<v Speaker 2>fucked up in Tate's ideology, women being able to have

1:29:48.360 --> 1:29:51.160
<v Speaker 2>their own careers, and lives is also part of the matrix.

1:29:51.280 --> 1:29:51.439
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1:29:51.880 --> 1:29:54.519
<v Speaker 2>He starts from this reasonable position capitalism is kind of

1:29:54.560 --> 1:29:56.720
<v Speaker 2>a con job, and then he pivots to telling kids

1:29:56.760 --> 1:29:59.439
<v Speaker 2>that the real con is anything that limits the ability

1:29:59.479 --> 1:30:01.599
<v Speaker 2>of young men to do whatever they want in any way.

1:30:02.080 --> 1:30:03.800
<v Speaker 2>And I want to play you now a video that

1:30:03.880 --> 1:30:08.280
<v Speaker 2>he made to advertise Hustler's University two point zero, because it's.

1:30:10.240 --> 1:30:13.200
<v Speaker 7>Something else you cannot stop, you cannot give up.

1:30:13.439 --> 1:30:15.600
<v Speaker 6>You're in the most fantastic place on the planet for

1:30:15.680 --> 1:30:18.120
<v Speaker 6>making money, Hustle's University, and the only person who can ruin.

1:30:18.040 --> 1:30:18.439
<v Speaker 1>That is you.

1:30:19.040 --> 1:30:21.720
<v Speaker 7>Most of you are happy to be losers part time.

1:30:22.120 --> 1:30:24.400
<v Speaker 7>You want to escape. That's why you joined.

1:30:24.560 --> 1:30:26.320
<v Speaker 6>You don't want to be a loser anymore. But then

1:30:26.400 --> 1:30:28.680
<v Speaker 6>that new video game comes out. I'll just play the

1:30:28.760 --> 1:30:30.759
<v Speaker 6>video game. I'll just be a loser for two more weeks.

1:30:30.840 --> 1:30:32.960
<v Speaker 7>Then I'll get back to trying to escape the matrix.

1:30:33.120 --> 1:30:35.200
<v Speaker 6>It doesn't work that way because you jump it out

1:30:35.240 --> 1:30:37.640
<v Speaker 6>of complacency from I'm happy to be a loser and

1:30:37.720 --> 1:30:39.960
<v Speaker 6>do loser things to I can't be a loser anymore.

1:30:40.080 --> 1:30:42.200
<v Speaker 6>When you're jumping it out, you never get momentum. You

1:30:42.360 --> 1:30:45.240
<v Speaker 6>cannot quit. You cannot give up. You need that momentum

1:30:45.320 --> 1:30:48.120
<v Speaker 6>to break free. When a rocket is flying out towards

1:30:48.160 --> 1:30:49.640
<v Speaker 6>the moon, to escape the atmosphere.

1:30:49.800 --> 1:30:52.920
<v Speaker 7>It doesn't fucking pause halfway up the sky, does it. No,

1:30:53.360 --> 1:30:54.439
<v Speaker 7>it keeps going.

1:30:54.840 --> 1:30:57.280
<v Speaker 6>Every single second you're not in Hustle's University, there are

1:30:57.400 --> 1:31:01.600
<v Speaker 6>things happening, conversations happening that you're not watching. Information that

1:31:01.720 --> 1:31:04.040
<v Speaker 6>could be the one little piece of information you need

1:31:04.160 --> 1:31:06.719
<v Speaker 6>to break out. It could be that one little sentence

1:31:06.760 --> 1:31:09.599
<v Speaker 6>that changes everything. You're in Hustle's University and you're gonna

1:31:09.600 --> 1:31:11.720
<v Speaker 6>make money, but it ain't easy. It ain't gonna be

1:31:11.720 --> 1:31:13.519
<v Speaker 6>given to you on a plate. You're gonna have to work.

1:31:13.640 --> 1:31:17.320
<v Speaker 6>You're in competition with the entire world. Everyone wants to escape.

1:31:17.640 --> 1:31:19.840
<v Speaker 7>You cannot be lazy.

1:31:20.320 --> 1:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's probably enough.

1:31:22.400 --> 1:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>The filming on this is so weird, Like he Yah

1:31:25.400 --> 1:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>jumps back and forth between his cars. He's like clearly

1:31:29.000 --> 1:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>holding an empty mug to look at.

1:31:31.920 --> 1:31:34.320
<v Speaker 2>I think filmed in a way that like is mints

1:31:34.400 --> 1:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>that they can cut it up for TikTok more easily.

1:31:37.680 --> 1:31:39.320
<v Speaker 2>You see this with like the Liver King too. A

1:31:39.400 --> 1:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of these guys will their longer YouTube videos will

1:31:42.000 --> 1:31:44.240
<v Speaker 2>have kind of a weird vibe because they're mainly filming

1:31:44.280 --> 1:31:47.280
<v Speaker 2>it to cut it up for TikTok, But you see

1:31:47.280 --> 1:31:49.559
<v Speaker 2>here he's like, there's this fear of missing out. You're

1:31:49.600 --> 1:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>not doing enough. You've got to break like free, you're

1:31:52.040 --> 1:31:56.559
<v Speaker 2>in competition with everybody else. And it's it's interesting because

1:31:57.040 --> 1:32:01.080
<v Speaker 2>when he's when he's talking this stuff, it's extremely modern

1:32:01.160 --> 1:32:04.280
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's almost a political right, like there was

1:32:04.360 --> 1:32:07.200
<v Speaker 2>not a thing in that that is like you could

1:32:07.280 --> 1:32:10.880
<v Speaker 2>super define as like a particularly political rant. Tate is

1:32:10.920 --> 1:32:13.080
<v Speaker 2>a very political guy, and when he gets into his

1:32:13.160 --> 1:32:15.519
<v Speaker 2>opinions about like women shouldn't be allowed to leave the house,

1:32:15.880 --> 1:32:19.760
<v Speaker 2>you realize he's actually kind of like a traditionalist religious fundamentalist,

1:32:19.840 --> 1:32:22.920
<v Speaker 2>which we will be building towards. But he's smart enough

1:32:22.960 --> 1:32:24.760
<v Speaker 2>that he doesn't get stuck in the traps that a

1:32:24.800 --> 1:32:27.639
<v Speaker 2>lot of religious fundamentalists fall into trying to reach out

1:32:27.680 --> 1:32:30.080
<v Speaker 2>to young men. He doesn't start with any of that.

1:32:30.240 --> 1:32:32.280
<v Speaker 2>It's stuff that kind of comes out later in some

1:32:32.400 --> 1:32:36.680
<v Speaker 2>of his other rants, and he gets this. There will

1:32:36.720 --> 1:32:39.719
<v Speaker 2>be moments where you can he will make these arguments

1:32:39.720 --> 1:32:42.880
<v Speaker 2>about stuff like military service that actually wouldn't seem out

1:32:42.920 --> 1:32:45.680
<v Speaker 2>of place if you're listening to some like left wing

1:32:45.800 --> 1:32:48.080
<v Speaker 2>bread tuber going on a rant. I want to play

1:32:48.120 --> 1:32:50.519
<v Speaker 2>you this clip here because again, it shows how much

1:32:50.560 --> 1:32:54.960
<v Speaker 2>he's kind of separated himself from the traditional right wing

1:32:55.360 --> 1:32:58.479
<v Speaker 2>grift sphere, or at least the traditional conservative grift sphere.

1:32:59.160 --> 1:33:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Think I think you're all.

1:33:00.360 --> 1:33:03.000
<v Speaker 7>We're gonna go die for what, Biden. I'm trying to

1:33:03.080 --> 1:33:04.759
<v Speaker 7>protect American freedom.

1:33:04.960 --> 1:33:06.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you're gonna protect the freedom of those people in

1:33:06.840 --> 1:33:09.439
<v Speaker 6>Nebraska by going over to Yemen and bombing some thirteen

1:33:09.520 --> 1:33:12.840
<v Speaker 6>year old farmers. Great job, Stupid, you ain't protected nothing

1:33:12.960 --> 1:33:14.880
<v Speaker 6>but profits for companies that don't care about you.

1:33:14.960 --> 1:33:17.280
<v Speaker 7>Should only protect yourself and your boys. I thought for

1:33:17.439 --> 1:33:19.439
<v Speaker 7>myself and the world champion got some money.

1:33:19.439 --> 1:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>You don't get any money.

1:33:20.360 --> 1:33:22.759
<v Speaker 7>Your leg blown off, walk around one leg, mister.

1:33:22.640 --> 1:33:24.479
<v Speaker 6>Limpy, mister limpy g for what for?

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<v Speaker 7>Biden doesn't care about you. Don't be stupid, don't be

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<v Speaker 7>dumb them pure as that I'm joining.

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<v Speaker 1>See that's uh, that's a that's first of all, you

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<v Speaker 1>should only protect your boys. Made me sure audibly vomit.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh oh that's how we work.

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<v Speaker 2>Harry at Cool Zone.

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<v Speaker 1>No no, but uh, just like him going like firm

1:33:50.920 --> 1:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>anti military and anti Biden, like you're you're clearly you

1:33:54.360 --> 1:33:56.000
<v Speaker 1>clearly know your audience.

1:33:56.560 --> 1:33:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's these it's these kids who grew up right

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<v Speaker 2>after because like I mean, Ian and Sophie and I

1:34:02.880 --> 1:34:04.920
<v Speaker 2>we all grew up kind of right in the wake

1:34:05.040 --> 1:34:07.680
<v Speaker 2>of nine to eleven and all of that, Like where

1:34:07.720 --> 1:34:11.400
<v Speaker 2>the military was this like sacred, uncriticizable thing in mainstream

1:34:11.439 --> 1:34:14.800
<v Speaker 2>American culture. That era is past, and it's i mean,

1:34:14.840 --> 1:34:17.479
<v Speaker 2>obviously in the UK it was always a bit different,

1:34:17.560 --> 1:34:21.160
<v Speaker 2>but like that era is well passed, and you actually

1:34:21.240 --> 1:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>you can get I mean, Trump did versions of this

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<v Speaker 2>right when he would talk about how you're like a

1:34:24.920 --> 1:34:27.280
<v Speaker 2>loser if you get injured for your country. It would

1:34:27.280 --> 1:34:29.720
<v Speaker 2>always all these Democrats who are stuck in like two

1:34:29.760 --> 1:34:32.240
<v Speaker 2>thousand and six would always get like this has to

1:34:32.320 --> 1:34:34.840
<v Speaker 2>be the end for him. Look, he told people that like,

1:34:34.960 --> 1:34:37.439
<v Speaker 2>injured veterans are chumps, and it's like, no, it doesn't matter.

1:34:38.520 --> 1:34:40.880
<v Speaker 2>They're people are perfectly willing to say that they are

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<v Speaker 2>chumps because this could like modern conservatism, the modern right

1:34:46.040 --> 1:34:49.960
<v Speaker 2>is so purely focused on the grift and on personally

1:34:50.400 --> 1:34:52.719
<v Speaker 2>sucking as much money out as you can from people

1:34:52.760 --> 1:34:55.200
<v Speaker 2>around you that it doesn't matter. Tate realizes that there's

1:34:55.240 --> 1:34:57.680
<v Speaker 2>no need to be ashamed of this thing, and it

1:34:57.800 --> 1:35:00.639
<v Speaker 2>can draw in folks who are like been to listening

1:35:00.720 --> 1:35:02.760
<v Speaker 2>to these kind of left wing arguments. He starts to

1:35:02.880 --> 1:35:05.240
<v Speaker 2>make one there where he's like, all you're doing joining

1:35:05.280 --> 1:35:08.080
<v Speaker 2>the military is murdering kids and Yemen. You can find

1:35:08.240 --> 1:35:11.959
<v Speaker 2>versions of that and like Marxist like influence and influencer,

1:35:12.040 --> 1:35:12.920
<v Speaker 2>YouTube brands and show.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be so curious to know the specific things

1:35:16.560 --> 1:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>that he uh watched and read where he like, like,

1:35:22.360 --> 1:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>what what specifically he learned? Yeah, yeah, I mean it's

1:35:29.040 --> 1:35:32.439
<v Speaker 1>it's yeah exactly.

1:35:33.360 --> 1:35:35.560
<v Speaker 2>I think he spends a lot of time and he

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<v Speaker 2>says he spends all of his time online like he's

1:35:38.280 --> 1:35:40.080
<v Speaker 2>working at the time. I think a lot of I

1:35:40.160 --> 1:35:43.200
<v Speaker 2>think a lot of it is he's paying attention to

1:35:43.320 --> 1:35:46.120
<v Speaker 2>what's going viral where, and he's not just paying attention

1:35:46.160 --> 1:35:48.200
<v Speaker 2>to what goes viral on the right. And one of

1:35:48.240 --> 1:35:50.200
<v Speaker 2>the things that happened when he got arrested is you

1:35:50.320 --> 1:35:54.280
<v Speaker 2>had all of these left wing weirdos online, guys like

1:35:54.600 --> 1:35:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Vosh is the one that I remember most specifically being like, well,

1:35:58.400 --> 1:36:01.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, Andrew Tate's bad, but the left needs someone

1:36:01.240 --> 1:36:03.320
<v Speaker 2>like him, who can speak to young men in this way.

1:36:03.840 --> 1:36:06.880
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, well, all he's doing is he's using

1:36:07.720 --> 1:36:10.920
<v Speaker 2>these he's using his bait, little pieces of left wing

1:36:11.880 --> 1:36:15.519
<v Speaker 2>social analysis and class analysis in order to get people

1:36:15.600 --> 1:36:17.639
<v Speaker 2>on the hook, and then he's trying to sell them

1:36:17.760 --> 1:36:20.960
<v Speaker 2>on turning their fifteen year old cousins into uber drivers.

1:36:21.360 --> 1:36:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Like that is all that is here. There's no need

1:36:24.080 --> 1:36:28.160
<v Speaker 2>to replicate this. He's not actually offering people anything. He's

1:36:28.360 --> 1:36:31.120
<v Speaker 2>just the thing that he's promising them. Rather than like

1:36:31.400 --> 1:36:34.280
<v Speaker 2>the grinding act of trying to reform the world in

1:36:34.360 --> 1:36:36.160
<v Speaker 2>a more just way, he's promising them you can get

1:36:36.160 --> 1:36:38.560
<v Speaker 2>a Lamborghini. Well, yes, that's always going to be a

1:36:38.640 --> 1:36:41.200
<v Speaker 2>better pitch to a lot of people than if we

1:36:41.320 --> 1:36:43.720
<v Speaker 2>all work hard and fight like hell, we can make

1:36:43.760 --> 1:36:47.439
<v Speaker 2>the world more just. But you can't. There's no like,

1:36:47.800 --> 1:36:50.479
<v Speaker 2>there's no replicating what Tate's doing because the only thing

1:36:50.560 --> 1:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>he's promising is a chance at like winning the lottery. Basically, right,

1:36:55.000 --> 1:36:57.280
<v Speaker 2>that's not actually a thing you should shoot for. That's

1:36:57.360 --> 1:37:02.080
<v Speaker 2>my opinion here. So all of the videos that I've

1:37:02.080 --> 1:37:04.639
<v Speaker 2>been playing for you, nearly all of them come from

1:37:04.720 --> 1:37:07.479
<v Speaker 2>fans who will compile clips of his various interviews and

1:37:07.520 --> 1:37:10.639
<v Speaker 2>podcast appearances and put them up on social media. Since

1:37:10.760 --> 1:37:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Tate has been banned from most platforms, this is the

1:37:13.360 --> 1:37:16.120
<v Speaker 2>only way his content gets out. But more than that,

1:37:16.240 --> 1:37:18.880
<v Speaker 2>it's part of a cohesive media strategy. That's how he

1:37:19.000 --> 1:37:22.719
<v Speaker 2>became famous in the first place. Tate built his empire

1:37:22.920 --> 1:37:24.920
<v Speaker 2>knowing that this would happen. And I'm going to quote

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<v Speaker 2>from The Guardian here. Since January, repackaged videos from interviews

1:37:29.200 --> 1:37:31.120
<v Speaker 2>with Tate over the years have been attracting millions of

1:37:31.200 --> 1:37:34.120
<v Speaker 2>views on TikTok, but in recent weeks this growth has accelerated.

1:37:34.360 --> 1:37:36.639
<v Speaker 2>In August. So far alone, clips tagged with his name

1:37:36.680 --> 1:37:39.400
<v Speaker 2>have been watched more than a billion times. The posts

1:37:39.479 --> 1:37:41.639
<v Speaker 2>do not come from Tate himself, who does not appear

1:37:41.680 --> 1:37:44.320
<v Speaker 2>to be active on the platform, but from hundreds of accounts,

1:37:44.360 --> 1:37:48.360
<v Speaker 2>often using his name and photo, run by his followers.

1:37:48.439 --> 1:37:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Members of Hustler's University, members, including boys as young as thirteen,

1:37:52.080 --> 1:37:54.080
<v Speaker 2>are told they can earn up to ten thousand dollars

1:37:54.160 --> 1:37:57.000
<v Speaker 2>a month through lessons on crypto investing, drop shipping, and

1:37:57.080 --> 1:37:59.960
<v Speaker 2>by recruiting others to Tussler's University, earning a forty eight

1:38:00.080 --> 1:38:02.600
<v Speaker 2>percent commission for each person they refer to have the

1:38:02.640 --> 1:38:04.439
<v Speaker 2>best chance of getting people to sign up. They are

1:38:04.439 --> 1:38:07.679
<v Speaker 2>advised to stoke controversy to improve their chances of going viral,

1:38:08.040 --> 1:38:10.640
<v Speaker 2>and one guy at Hustler's University's students are told that

1:38:10.800 --> 1:38:14.080
<v Speaker 2>attracting comments and controversy is the key to success. What

1:38:14.240 --> 1:38:16.759
<v Speaker 2>you ideally want is a mix of sixty seventy percent

1:38:16.880 --> 1:38:19.919
<v Speaker 2>fans and forty to thirty percent haters. You want arguments,

1:38:20.160 --> 1:38:24.120
<v Speaker 2>you want war. And this is the thing he did

1:38:24.240 --> 1:38:29.439
<v Speaker 2>that's brilliant. Or mid twenty twenty two, there was this

1:38:29.600 --> 1:38:32.479
<v Speaker 2>thing where all of these left wing influencers and liberal

1:38:32.600 --> 1:38:35.320
<v Speaker 2>influencers and media people found out about Andrew Tate, and

1:38:35.479 --> 1:38:37.880
<v Speaker 2>for weeks you could not miss him.

1:38:38.160 --> 1:38:40.360
<v Speaker 1>He was every fund, he was everywhere.

1:38:40.800 --> 1:38:44.040
<v Speaker 2>All of these mainstream media people like Pierce Morgan interviewed him.

1:38:44.040 --> 1:38:45.880
<v Speaker 2>There were a couple others. Someone at CNN talked to him.

1:38:45.880 --> 1:38:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I think like there were all these and all of

1:38:49.000 --> 1:38:51.280
<v Speaker 2>them were condemning him. All of them were attacking him.

1:38:51.320 --> 1:38:52.960
<v Speaker 2>A lot of them were making fun of him and

1:38:53.040 --> 1:38:55.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to show him as a loser. All it did

1:38:55.160 --> 1:38:57.840
<v Speaker 2>was make him millions of dollars. This is why when

1:38:57.840 --> 1:39:00.800
<v Speaker 2>people were celebrating like Greta dunking on him. I was like, guys,

1:39:00.920 --> 1:39:03.600
<v Speaker 2>this is how he got rich. Thankfully he happened to

1:39:03.720 --> 1:39:06.400
<v Speaker 2>get arrested after that, but like, this is how he

1:39:06.560 --> 1:39:09.640
<v Speaker 2>got rich. The only reason that we're doing these episodes

1:39:09.680 --> 1:39:11.840
<v Speaker 2>now is number one. I think the strategy, the whole

1:39:11.880 --> 1:39:14.439
<v Speaker 2>sweep of it is important. I wasn't willing to do

1:39:14.600 --> 1:39:16.400
<v Speaker 2>something like this until I thought there was a good

1:39:16.520 --> 1:39:19.960
<v Speaker 2>chance he's not getting out of fucking prison. I mean,

1:39:20.040 --> 1:39:21.880
<v Speaker 2>we'll see, he might still come back to it, but

1:39:22.080 --> 1:39:23.360
<v Speaker 2>I figured it was worth doing.

1:39:23.240 --> 1:39:25.320
<v Speaker 1>It this And I think it's interesting that like his

1:39:25.520 --> 1:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>reach where he was going on literally CNN, but also

1:39:28.920 --> 1:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>was doing like he did like an interview on a.

1:39:32.320 --> 1:39:35.680
<v Speaker 2>The Fit and Trim podcast, but also.

1:39:35.840 --> 1:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Like he did an entire interview on this like TikTok

1:39:40.720 --> 1:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>teen show with Barstool Sports BFFs.

1:39:44.840 --> 1:39:46.439
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, we'll have a clip from that in a

1:39:46.520 --> 1:39:50.360
<v Speaker 2>sense yeah, where it's like where it's like yeah, and

1:39:50.479 --> 1:39:51.160
<v Speaker 2>that's the thing, like.

1:39:53.600 --> 1:39:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Unbelievable.

1:39:54.560 --> 1:39:57.200
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't have a TikTok and he's like the number

1:39:57.280 --> 1:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>one guy on TikTok, or was for quite a while.

1:40:01.960 --> 1:40:07.479
<v Speaker 2>And that's that's an there's brilliance in that this was conscious.

1:40:07.560 --> 1:40:10.240
<v Speaker 2>He didn't luck into this, This didn't happen by accident.

1:40:10.800 --> 1:40:13.599
<v Speaker 2>He realized once he gets one hundred thousand or so people,

1:40:13.640 --> 1:40:15.600
<v Speaker 2>He's like, if you've got one hundred thousand people in

1:40:15.720 --> 1:40:18.400
<v Speaker 2>your discord thing following you, and you can get them

1:40:18.479 --> 1:40:20.880
<v Speaker 2>all posting, you can get fifty sixty thousand people a

1:40:20.960 --> 1:40:25.800
<v Speaker 2>day posting clip mashups of your interviews. Some of that's

1:40:25.840 --> 1:40:27.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna go viral. It's gonna be and it's gonna go

1:40:27.880 --> 1:40:31.400
<v Speaker 2>fucking and the algorithm will help carry you. And again

1:40:31.560 --> 1:40:33.720
<v Speaker 2>he part of this, he didn't come up like this

1:40:33.920 --> 1:40:35.439
<v Speaker 2>is part in part based on the fact that he

1:40:35.520 --> 1:40:37.960
<v Speaker 2>pays attention to what's been happening. So we notice is

1:40:38.200 --> 1:40:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Alex Jones has guys like Kanye on because he knows

1:40:40.880 --> 1:40:42.840
<v Speaker 2>that they're going to do provocative, racist shit that the

1:40:42.920 --> 1:40:45.800
<v Speaker 2>media will cover and that'll get his name trending even

1:40:45.840 --> 1:40:48.600
<v Speaker 2>though he's not on social media. He observes this and

1:40:48.680 --> 1:40:53.960
<v Speaker 2>then he goes more proactively after it. Right, what Tait's

1:40:54.040 --> 1:40:56.080
<v Speaker 2>done is he's taken the logic and the sense of

1:40:56.160 --> 1:40:58.600
<v Speaker 2>personal investment that you get in a pyramid scheme or

1:40:58.600 --> 1:41:01.400
<v Speaker 2>an MLM, and he's given and his followers a vested

1:41:01.479 --> 1:41:04.439
<v Speaker 2>financial interest in getting his content trending around the world,

1:41:04.720 --> 1:41:08.280
<v Speaker 2>and this worked incredibly well. The sudden rush of attention

1:41:08.439 --> 1:41:10.479
<v Speaker 2>Tate stuff got in twenty one and twenty twenty two

1:41:10.880 --> 1:41:13.160
<v Speaker 2>drove tens of thousands of mostly very young men to

1:41:13.240 --> 1:41:16.479
<v Speaker 2>Hustler's University and the war Room, which is his even

1:41:16.560 --> 1:41:19.479
<v Speaker 2>more exclusive discord that costs five thousand dollars a month

1:41:19.640 --> 1:41:23.080
<v Speaker 2>or five thousand dollars total to join. Now, both platforms

1:41:23.160 --> 1:41:25.800
<v Speaker 2>have strict requirements for their membership. If you pay five

1:41:25.880 --> 1:41:28.800
<v Speaker 2>grand to join the war Room, you're warned ahead of

1:41:28.880 --> 1:41:32.200
<v Speaker 2>time that you could be banned for any reason, costing

1:41:32.280 --> 1:41:34.720
<v Speaker 2>you five grand if you displease Andrew Tate, So you're

1:41:34.760 --> 1:41:36.719
<v Speaker 2>going to be invested in keeping him happy.

1:41:37.479 --> 1:41:39.519
<v Speaker 1>That's meanwhiletively evil.

1:41:39.680 --> 1:41:42.080
<v Speaker 2>In one of the things you're told if you join

1:41:42.200 --> 1:41:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Hustler's University, he tells you if you don't pay every

1:41:44.760 --> 1:41:46.920
<v Speaker 2>month for this, it means you're not committed enough to

1:41:46.960 --> 1:41:49.560
<v Speaker 2>succeed and are definitely going to fail in life. I

1:41:49.640 --> 1:41:51.800
<v Speaker 2>can remember him doing like a call in show where

1:41:51.840 --> 1:41:53.360
<v Speaker 2>like one guy's like, yeah, I think I need to

1:41:53.400 --> 1:41:55.280
<v Speaker 2>take a month off from membership to buy my mom

1:41:55.320 --> 1:41:58.040
<v Speaker 2>a birthday gift, and he's like, well, if you weren't

1:41:58.040 --> 1:42:00.320
<v Speaker 2>a failure, you would have made that money already using

1:42:00.360 --> 1:42:03.439
<v Speaker 2>the skills you'd learned here, and what they do if

1:42:03.479 --> 1:42:06.680
<v Speaker 2>you if you miss a month of payments on Hustler's University.

1:42:06.680 --> 1:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>You're not You're not.

1:42:10.280 --> 1:42:13.280
<v Speaker 2>You are siloed off to a separate discord where the

1:42:13.360 --> 1:42:15.600
<v Speaker 2>only thing posted in there is screen grabs of the

1:42:15.680 --> 1:42:16.839
<v Speaker 2>other member's profits.

1:42:18.600 --> 1:42:22.439
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, exactly, and come back. They want you

1:42:22.520 --> 1:42:24.559
<v Speaker 4>to find a way to get the money to exactly.

1:42:25.479 --> 1:42:27.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I'm going to continue with a quote from

1:42:27.640 --> 1:42:31.400
<v Speaker 2>that Guardian investigation. We conducted an anonymous experiment with a

1:42:31.439 --> 1:42:33.439
<v Speaker 2>blank account set up for a teenage boy, and we're

1:42:33.520 --> 1:42:36.280
<v Speaker 2>quickly shown content of Tait. After watching two of his videos,

1:42:36.320 --> 1:42:39.719
<v Speaker 2>we were recommended more, including clips of him expressing misogynistic views.

1:42:40.040 --> 1:42:41.960
<v Speaker 2>The next time the account was opened, the first four

1:42:42.040 --> 1:42:45.080
<v Speaker 2>posts were of Tate from four different accounts. In one video,

1:42:45.160 --> 1:42:47.479
<v Speaker 2>posted from an account with Tate's name and face, he describes,

1:42:47.560 --> 1:42:50.000
<v Speaker 2>matter of factly, how he expects his girlfriends to behave

1:42:50.400 --> 1:42:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I inflict I expect absolute loyalty from my woman, he says,

1:42:54.000 --> 1:42:56.200
<v Speaker 2>I am having my chicks talking to other dudes liking

1:42:56.240 --> 1:42:58.600
<v Speaker 2>other dudes. My chicks don't go to the club without me,

1:42:58.720 --> 1:43:01.639
<v Speaker 2>they are at home. This tactic has worked extremely well,

1:43:01.800 --> 1:43:03.880
<v Speaker 2>and the way that social media functions has ensured that

1:43:03.960 --> 1:43:06.280
<v Speaker 2>all the hate Tait receives does nothing but make his

1:43:06.400 --> 1:43:10.000
<v Speaker 2>brand stronger. In mid twenty twenty one, basically every liberal

1:43:10.080 --> 1:43:12.320
<v Speaker 2>and lefty yeah, I already talked about this, but yeah,

1:43:13.160 --> 1:43:16.320
<v Speaker 2>after he gets kicked off of social media, subscriptions to

1:43:16.400 --> 1:43:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Hustler's University only increase. Screenshots posted online showed that Hustler's

1:43:21.640 --> 1:43:24.320
<v Speaker 2>University two point zero had about twelve thousand subscribers in

1:43:24.439 --> 1:43:27.400
<v Speaker 2>March of twenty twenty two when kind of everybody started

1:43:27.439 --> 1:43:31.680
<v Speaker 2>attacking Andrew Tait. By July it had seventy seven thousand subscribers,

1:43:31.920 --> 1:43:33.679
<v Speaker 2>and at the start of August there were one hundred

1:43:33.720 --> 1:43:37.240
<v Speaker 2>and twenty nine thousand followers. By the end of August,

1:43:37.439 --> 1:43:40.080
<v Speaker 2>he starts to get even more media attention, and his

1:43:40.240 --> 1:43:46.040
<v Speaker 2>affiliate program that incentivized subscribers gets discontinued, which costs him

1:43:46.080 --> 1:43:47.840
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people. So, like near the end of

1:43:47.920 --> 1:43:50.040
<v Speaker 2>that month, he goes down by like twenty five thousand

1:43:50.120 --> 1:43:53.000
<v Speaker 2>or so, But that's a temporary loss because By September,

1:43:53.080 --> 1:43:55.760
<v Speaker 2>he's back up to one hundred and sixty thousand subscribers.

1:43:56.640 --> 1:43:59.360
<v Speaker 2>In October, BuzzFeed observed more than two hundred and twenty

1:43:59.400 --> 1:44:02.240
<v Speaker 2>one thousand users in his discord server, which is Hustler's

1:44:02.320 --> 1:44:05.320
<v Speaker 2>university two point zero. Since all of those people were

1:44:05.360 --> 1:44:07.960
<v Speaker 2>paying forty nine to ninety nine a month, that means

1:44:08.000 --> 1:44:10.920
<v Speaker 2>he was making eleven million dollars in October alone just

1:44:11.000 --> 1:44:11.759
<v Speaker 2>from his discord.

1:44:13.200 --> 1:44:21.680
<v Speaker 4>Holy shit, that's crazy. Yeah and yeah, and you know

1:44:21.800 --> 1:44:22.960
<v Speaker 4>he's not paying taxes on it.

1:44:23.200 --> 1:44:26.439
<v Speaker 2>He's already told you you shouldn't pay taxes on your shit.

1:44:26.640 --> 1:44:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Break the law right time. Point now, I think it's

1:44:33.560 --> 1:44:35.800
<v Speaker 2>important to see the way a lot of young men

1:44:36.080 --> 1:44:38.800
<v Speaker 2>react to and imitate Tait, because it could be easy

1:44:38.840 --> 1:44:41.960
<v Speaker 2>to dismiss him as just another weirdo right wing guy online.

1:44:41.960 --> 1:44:43.560
<v Speaker 2>If you don't see that, so, I'm gonna play you

1:44:43.640 --> 1:44:46.439
<v Speaker 2>a clip. This is of some kid. I think they're eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>This is their TikTok. Watch this. Pay attention to his mannerisms.

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<v Speaker 2>You've all seen enough Andrew Tait now to recognize Tate.

1:44:55.280 --> 1:44:58.120
<v Speaker 3>Pe will think that it's so hard to break the matrix.

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<v Speaker 10>And I'm here to tell you it's not like I,

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, my first million dollars last year and in

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<v Speaker 10>the past twelve months, I was able to turn that

1:45:04.320 --> 1:45:07.599
<v Speaker 10>one million dollars into five point six million at eighteen

1:45:07.680 --> 1:45:09.280
<v Speaker 10>years old. By the way, and I'll tell you this

1:45:09.439 --> 1:45:11.200
<v Speaker 10>right now, I didn't do this by listening to no

1:45:11.439 --> 1:45:12.879
<v Speaker 10>brokeye teacher saying.

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<v Speaker 7>Steady, steady, steady, steady for your degree.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck your degree. It is not hard to create your

1:45:17.720 --> 1:45:20.280
<v Speaker 3>dream life. Like, once you make that first one hundred k,

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<v Speaker 3>you are out. And if you follow the steps that

1:45:22.840 --> 1:45:25.200
<v Speaker 3>I give you and actually take action and make that

1:45:25.280 --> 1:45:26.960
<v Speaker 3>first one hundred k and not blow it on a

1:45:27.000 --> 1:45:30.000
<v Speaker 3>fucking penthouse or a lambeau, you will be out. So

1:45:30.280 --> 1:45:34.040
<v Speaker 3>stop waiting and join us. People think that it's so hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow wow, Yeah, that's like.

1:45:38.680 --> 1:45:41.840
<v Speaker 4>This is literally like Verbad him like clone of scent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right down to like the facial expressions and stuff.

1:45:45.160 --> 1:45:46.880
<v Speaker 4>And he's and even like he's doing kind of a

1:45:46.960 --> 1:45:49.880
<v Speaker 4>weird like semi British accent thing in there something I

1:45:49.920 --> 1:45:52.479
<v Speaker 4>don't know, maybe the kid is British, but like every.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's doing like the term brokey is one that

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<v Speaker 2>evolved within the taps.

1:45:55.720 --> 1:45:57.920
<v Speaker 4>Can exactly the hand gestures like all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's like the thing, by the way, broke is

1:46:00.240 --> 1:46:01.880
<v Speaker 2>like that's what they tell you, Tait. People tell you,

1:46:01.960 --> 1:46:04.280
<v Speaker 2>like call your teachers that tell you, like the adults

1:46:04.280 --> 1:46:07.120
<v Speaker 2>around you who tell you not to obsess with Andrew

1:46:07.200 --> 1:46:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Tate's style, hustlers brokies because they're not multi millionaires, so

1:46:10.360 --> 1:46:13.439
<v Speaker 2>they're losers if you argue with these people online. The

1:46:13.560 --> 1:46:15.720
<v Speaker 2>question they're told to ask you is what color is

1:46:15.760 --> 1:46:19.320
<v Speaker 2>your Bugatti? By the way, the color of Andrew Tate's

1:46:19.360 --> 1:46:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Bugatti now is he doesn't have one because it's been

1:46:21.600 --> 1:46:27.040
<v Speaker 2>confiscated by the Romanian governments. But this again, you see

1:46:27.040 --> 1:46:29.640
<v Speaker 2>why this is like I mean just to for a

1:46:29.680 --> 1:46:33.479
<v Speaker 2>little bit of like personal context, when I was nineteen

1:46:33.520 --> 1:46:37.360
<v Speaker 2>to eighteen nineteen, like I started working, and it sucks,

1:46:37.720 --> 1:46:40.559
<v Speaker 2>Like working for minimum wage and trying to afford an

1:46:40.560 --> 1:46:44.559
<v Speaker 2>apartment was a lot easier fifteen sixteen years ago when

1:46:44.600 --> 1:46:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I was doing it, but like it's still sucked ass.

1:46:47.320 --> 1:46:49.519
<v Speaker 2>And the thing that I wanted more than anything was

1:46:49.600 --> 1:46:52.680
<v Speaker 2>to like figure out some job that would let me

1:46:52.800 --> 1:46:55.479
<v Speaker 2>work from home doing something that wasn't miserable, which is

1:46:55.600 --> 1:46:59.439
<v Speaker 2>like how I started my career in like tech journalism

1:46:59.479 --> 1:47:03.040
<v Speaker 2>and shit like that. Was my sole motivation was to

1:47:03.360 --> 1:47:06.680
<v Speaker 2>not have to spend forty to sixty hours a week

1:47:07.240 --> 1:47:12.120
<v Speaker 2>being miserable in an office in like for someone else's profit.

1:47:12.200 --> 1:47:15.800
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to have to do that. And like,

1:47:16.080 --> 1:47:19.639
<v Speaker 2>I get how powerful a motivator that is. And there's

1:47:20.000 --> 1:47:22.320
<v Speaker 2>again this kid that we just saw, Like part of

1:47:22.400 --> 1:47:24.080
<v Speaker 2>what he's saying is like these teachers who tell you

1:47:24.200 --> 1:47:26.000
<v Speaker 2>to study for your degree, that's not going to help you.

1:47:26.439 --> 1:47:28.200
<v Speaker 2>And for a lot of people, he's right. I know

1:47:28.280 --> 1:47:30.800
<v Speaker 2>a shitload of people who got a fucking college degree

1:47:30.840 --> 1:47:33.200
<v Speaker 2>and it did nothing but lock them into debt. There's

1:47:33.640 --> 1:47:36.920
<v Speaker 2>there's a reason why kids are vulnerable to this shit,

1:47:37.040 --> 1:47:40.080
<v Speaker 2>and it's because doing things the quote unquote right way

1:47:40.280 --> 1:47:44.439
<v Speaker 2>is often deeply unpleasant. It's just that all Andrew Tate's

1:47:44.520 --> 1:47:46.040
<v Speaker 2>going to get you to do is give him money.

1:47:46.080 --> 1:47:48.360
<v Speaker 2>He's not going to teach you how to escape this system,

1:47:48.720 --> 1:47:51.120
<v Speaker 2>because you can't escape it. Like, even if you think

1:47:51.200 --> 1:47:53.559
<v Speaker 2>that you've escaped it because you've gotten a decent job,

1:47:53.920 --> 1:47:55.960
<v Speaker 2>you're still latched to it one way or the other,

1:47:56.160 --> 1:47:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Like it is still dracking behind you, which is why

1:47:58.760 --> 1:48:02.080
<v Speaker 2>we need to kill it with a spear. But anyway,

1:48:02.280 --> 1:48:13.799
<v Speaker 2>that's that's ads time for some ads. Ah, good stuff.

1:48:15.120 --> 1:48:19.920
<v Speaker 1>So how I'm like good stuff? Not sure? How are

1:48:19.960 --> 1:48:21.640
<v Speaker 1>you gonna ask how we're feeling? U?

1:48:21.760 --> 1:48:23.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how are you feeling? Is everybody doing?

1:48:23.840 --> 1:48:28.439
<v Speaker 1>Everybody happy, sad and concerned for a lot hearing happy.

1:48:28.640 --> 1:48:31.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm hearing happy. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us more so.

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<v Speaker 2>In the weeks before his arrest, Andrew was trending in

1:48:37.240 --> 1:48:40.519
<v Speaker 2>what is a legitimately fascinating direction. He announced at the

1:48:40.520 --> 1:48:42.519
<v Speaker 2>start of December of twenty twenty two that he had

1:48:42.560 --> 1:48:45.960
<v Speaker 2>converted to Islam. Now there is a whole video. There's

1:48:45.960 --> 1:48:47.679
<v Speaker 2>a number of them, but I watched a whole video

1:48:47.760 --> 1:48:50.880
<v Speaker 2>with him in some like weirdo Muslim scholar. I don't

1:48:51.120 --> 1:48:53.040
<v Speaker 2>know that this guy is a good It's unlike the

1:48:53.160 --> 1:48:56.360
<v Speaker 2>one Islam network, which has one point seven to four

1:48:56.439 --> 1:48:59.439
<v Speaker 2>million subscribers, this video has one point six million views.

1:49:00.080 --> 1:49:03.400
<v Speaker 2>The guy is Mohammed Jjab. I don't think he's a

1:49:03.479 --> 1:49:08.040
<v Speaker 2>good person. And I'm certainly not saying that he actually

1:49:08.200 --> 1:49:11.080
<v Speaker 2>knows or actually is a is an expert on Islam.

1:49:11.160 --> 1:49:14.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm not certainly either, but boy, this

1:49:14.800 --> 1:49:18.680
<v Speaker 2>video is gross as shit. So he tait starts by

1:49:18.840 --> 1:49:21.240
<v Speaker 2>like saying that he had converted to Islam because he

1:49:21.400 --> 1:49:24.320
<v Speaker 2>decided it was the only real religion, right, all of

1:49:24.360 --> 1:49:26.479
<v Speaker 2>the other religions have been cucked by the matrix in

1:49:26.600 --> 1:49:29.919
<v Speaker 2>or fake. And he claimed he used to be an atheist,

1:49:30.000 --> 1:49:32.639
<v Speaker 2>but then he saw evil and that that convinced him

1:49:32.640 --> 1:49:35.200
<v Speaker 2>of the existence of God. And then we get to

1:49:35.280 --> 1:49:37.679
<v Speaker 2>my favorite part, which is the only thing that's entertaining

1:49:37.760 --> 1:49:39.679
<v Speaker 2>in this video and not deeply depressing.

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<v Speaker 6>Longest time, you know, I've never been to like a

1:49:42.840 --> 1:49:45.920
<v Speaker 6>music concernd.

1:49:46.520 --> 1:49:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I just look at it and I feel embarrassed.

1:49:48.560 --> 1:49:51.639
<v Speaker 6>I look at someone up on a stage dancing round,

1:49:51.760 --> 1:49:54.400
<v Speaker 6>and I look at hundreds of thousands of peasants in

1:49:54.439 --> 1:49:58.799
<v Speaker 6>the crowd, just yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like, it's embarrassing.

1:49:58.920 --> 1:50:01.720
<v Speaker 6>I'm I feel cringe, just like secondhand embarrassment when I

1:50:01.760 --> 1:50:04.080
<v Speaker 6>see these festivals and everyone's losing their mind, or these

1:50:04.160 --> 1:50:06.960
<v Speaker 6>music concerts, I genuinely feel embarrassed for the people who go,

1:50:07.120 --> 1:50:09.040
<v Speaker 6>because to me, that is a form of worship, Like

1:50:09.520 --> 1:50:11.280
<v Speaker 6>you can listen to the music at home for free,

1:50:11.520 --> 1:50:12.960
<v Speaker 6>Like you don't have to wait in that line and

1:50:13.040 --> 1:50:15.519
<v Speaker 6>stand out in the cold. I don't know, perhaps it

1:50:15.600 --> 1:50:18.400
<v Speaker 6>was a bit extreme, but I've always known that they're

1:50:18.439 --> 1:50:20.479
<v Speaker 6>trying to give us false idols to some degree. And

1:50:20.760 --> 1:50:23.519
<v Speaker 6>when I speak to atheists, atheists like, oh, I don't

1:50:23.560 --> 1:50:25.760
<v Speaker 6>believe in God, but they've signed up so hard to

1:50:25.840 --> 1:50:28.479
<v Speaker 6>the liberal woe agenda. They're as religious as anybody, but

1:50:28.479 --> 1:50:30.360
<v Speaker 6>they're just believing in the wrong things they're believing.

1:50:31.240 --> 1:50:34.479
<v Speaker 2>So I think that's interesting because what clearly has happened

1:50:34.520 --> 1:50:38.280
<v Speaker 2>here is that Andrew Tait is a deeply malignant narcissist.

1:50:38.720 --> 1:50:40.800
<v Speaker 2>And if you go to a concert, part of like

1:50:40.920 --> 1:50:44.400
<v Speaker 2>what people get out of a concert is losing themselves

1:50:44.720 --> 1:50:48.040
<v Speaker 2>in a piece of another person's creation. And that would

1:50:48.120 --> 1:50:50.280
<v Speaker 2>mean that the focus is not on Andrew Tait, and

1:50:50.360 --> 1:50:52.840
<v Speaker 2>he's simply not only can he not enjoy it, but

1:50:53.400 --> 1:50:56.400
<v Speaker 2>it makes him sick. Yeah, to see other people be

1:50:56.520 --> 1:50:58.040
<v Speaker 2>a focus of attention, Like.

1:50:58.240 --> 1:51:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Live music is one of the greatest we have.

1:51:01.280 --> 1:51:04.320
<v Speaker 2>It's the single best thing that our species has created.

1:51:05.000 --> 1:51:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Like, but Andrew not and ert.

1:51:11.800 --> 1:51:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I do think it's funny.

1:51:13.120 --> 1:51:15.360
<v Speaker 4>It's like, but if people are looking at du Lipa,

1:51:15.479 --> 1:51:15.920
<v Speaker 4>that means.

1:51:15.800 --> 1:51:20.960
<v Speaker 2>No one paying attention to Andrew Tate. Yes, also there's

1:51:21.000 --> 1:51:23.120
<v Speaker 2>definitely videos of him at concerts.

1:51:22.720 --> 1:51:25.400
<v Speaker 1>But at least that's beautiful.

1:51:26.560 --> 1:51:29.240
<v Speaker 2>It's very funny. It's also worth noting that Andrew Tate

1:51:29.280 --> 1:51:32.520
<v Speaker 2>and Jeff Bezos are buddies in baldness and not understanding

1:51:32.560 --> 1:51:35.800
<v Speaker 2>the gift of songs. So that's that's what it's neat

1:51:35.840 --> 1:51:37.080
<v Speaker 2>that they have that in common.

1:51:37.920 --> 1:51:40.679
<v Speaker 1>They also both like to wear really tight pants, which

1:51:40.680 --> 1:51:41.800
<v Speaker 1>is they also both like to.

1:51:41.840 --> 1:51:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Wear really tight pants. That is correct, although I gotta

1:51:46.479 --> 1:51:49.759
<v Speaker 2>say this, Jeff Bezos gave up half of his fortune

1:51:49.800 --> 1:51:52.280
<v Speaker 2>in the divorce, and I don't think that Andrew Tate

1:51:52.280 --> 1:51:52.840
<v Speaker 2>would have done that.

1:51:53.120 --> 1:51:57.479
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, definitely not definitely.

1:51:57.520 --> 1:52:00.920
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, Tate was arrested before the end of twenty

1:52:01.000 --> 1:52:04.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty two alongside his brother Tristan, and two Romanian women,

1:52:04.680 --> 1:52:08.320
<v Speaker 2>one of whom was a former Romanian police officer. Some

1:52:08.479 --> 1:52:11.599
<v Speaker 2>of the articles I found that are Romanian will say

1:52:11.600 --> 1:52:14.800
<v Speaker 2>that the women were branded by him. This is not

1:52:15.120 --> 1:52:18.479
<v Speaker 2>entirely accurate. They're saying this because of like nexium right,

1:52:18.640 --> 1:52:21.640
<v Speaker 2>because the second season of The Keith Rinieri Dot came

1:52:21.680 --> 1:52:23.840
<v Speaker 2>out and those women had been branded. The reality is

1:52:23.880 --> 1:52:26.280
<v Speaker 2>that they have Tates girls tattoos, which we know exist.

1:52:26.360 --> 1:52:28.240
<v Speaker 2>I've seen pictures of them on a number of different

1:52:28.280 --> 1:52:31.320
<v Speaker 2>women and like, that's weird, but that is not branding.

1:52:31.439 --> 1:52:34.519
<v Speaker 2>People get tattoos, People get tattoos with dudes' names on them.

1:52:35.320 --> 1:52:36.080
<v Speaker 2>It's not branding.

1:52:36.200 --> 1:52:39.080
<v Speaker 1>And somebody dramatically different.

1:52:39.640 --> 1:52:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, again, the guy is deeply abusive, but he is

1:52:42.439 --> 1:52:44.920
<v Speaker 2>not Like, I have not seen any evidence these literally

1:52:45.000 --> 1:52:47.040
<v Speaker 2>branding women. They just got tattoos of his name, which

1:52:47.120 --> 1:52:50.120
<v Speaker 2>is like weird, but not what Keith Ranieri was having

1:52:50.200 --> 1:52:53.400
<v Speaker 2>women do. It is too early for me to comment

1:52:53.520 --> 1:52:57.160
<v Speaker 2>in much detail about the allegations against him. We do

1:52:57.320 --> 1:52:59.080
<v Speaker 2>know that at least two women I think it's up

1:52:59.120 --> 1:53:02.560
<v Speaker 2>to four now have accused one of the Tates, and

1:53:02.680 --> 1:53:05.000
<v Speaker 2>we don't actually know which of the Tates with physical

1:53:05.080 --> 1:53:08.679
<v Speaker 2>and sexual abuse. In addition, both Tits are accused, along

1:53:08.760 --> 1:53:11.960
<v Speaker 2>with those women, of sexually trafficking a number of women

1:53:12.080 --> 1:53:13.160
<v Speaker 2>for their webcam business.

1:53:13.240 --> 1:53:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Do we think he throws brother under the bus to

1:53:15.600 --> 1:53:18.280
<v Speaker 1>save himself one million?

1:53:18.360 --> 1:53:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there's a good chance. I don't think

1:53:20.640 --> 1:53:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Tristan would. Tristan I think is kind of Tristan's a

1:53:24.920 --> 1:53:27.200
<v Speaker 2>giant piece of shit, by the way, Like I think

1:53:27.280 --> 1:53:30.679
<v Speaker 2>that Andrew would throw Tristan under the bus before Tristan

1:53:30.720 --> 1:53:32.560
<v Speaker 2>would throw Andrew under the bus. Although I'm open to

1:53:32.600 --> 1:53:36.280
<v Speaker 2>being surprised. Here for a little bit of context on

1:53:36.360 --> 1:53:38.600
<v Speaker 2>the crimes, I'm going to quote from ruiters here. The

1:53:38.680 --> 1:53:41.839
<v Speaker 2>Directorate for Investigating Organized Crime and Terrorism said the suspects

1:53:41.840 --> 1:53:44.080
<v Speaker 2>appear to have created an organized crime group with the

1:53:44.080 --> 1:53:46.640
<v Speaker 2>purpose of recruiting, housing, and exploiting women by forcing them

1:53:46.680 --> 1:53:49.919
<v Speaker 2>to create pornographic content to be seen on specialized websites

1:53:50.000 --> 1:53:52.760
<v Speaker 2>for a cost. It claimed that the men recruited women

1:53:52.840 --> 1:53:55.200
<v Speaker 2>with the pretense of romance in the lover boy method

1:53:55.240 --> 1:53:57.880
<v Speaker 2>before being forced to perform in pornographic content under the

1:53:57.920 --> 1:54:01.720
<v Speaker 2>threat of violence. Investigators are reported to believe one of

1:54:01.760 --> 1:54:04.320
<v Speaker 2>the performers brought in forty five thousand dollars a month

1:54:04.640 --> 1:54:07.240
<v Speaker 2>or forty five thousand pounds a month, but received no payment,

1:54:07.640 --> 1:54:10.120
<v Speaker 2>and while the women were kept under house arrest. Tate

1:54:10.200 --> 1:54:12.280
<v Speaker 2>claims the women kept eighty to eighty five percent of

1:54:12.320 --> 1:54:14.320
<v Speaker 2>the fees earned and that most of the girls ended

1:54:14.400 --> 1:54:17.960
<v Speaker 2>up being multi millionaires. And look. Tate has his claim

1:54:18.000 --> 1:54:20.560
<v Speaker 2>here that's important to note, but we know that in

1:54:20.680 --> 1:54:23.800
<v Speaker 2>his Hustler's University video he recommends getting people to work

1:54:23.840 --> 1:54:25.880
<v Speaker 2>with you in a gig basis and then lying to

1:54:25.920 --> 1:54:27.760
<v Speaker 2>them about how much money they're making, so you can

1:54:27.840 --> 1:54:31.040
<v Speaker 2>take it all. So I think there's reason to believe

1:54:31.160 --> 1:54:38.280
<v Speaker 2>the Romanian authorities on this one. Now, the prosecution doesn't

1:54:38.360 --> 1:54:40.680
<v Speaker 2>just have that, they have audio that likely some of

1:54:40.720 --> 1:54:42.360
<v Speaker 2>it I think came from a wiretap. Some of it

1:54:42.440 --> 1:54:44.760
<v Speaker 2>seems to have been recorded by one of his victims.

1:54:45.760 --> 1:54:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Some of this audio has been leaked to apparently been

1:54:48.360 --> 1:54:51.920
<v Speaker 2>leaked to local Romanian news sources. Most of the translations

1:54:51.960 --> 1:54:54.680
<v Speaker 2>that I found have been from Romanians on edit on Reddit.

1:54:54.800 --> 1:54:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to quote directly from it because I

1:54:57.000 --> 1:54:59.200
<v Speaker 2>just am not certain about the providence of all of

1:54:59.240 --> 1:55:04.040
<v Speaker 2>this yet. But some credible Romanian news sources are reporting that,

1:55:04.320 --> 1:55:08.800
<v Speaker 2>based on these leaked conversations that the prosecution has Tate

1:55:08.960 --> 1:55:11.480
<v Speaker 2>openly discusses using the women who worked for him to

1:55:11.520 --> 1:55:13.480
<v Speaker 2>launder Bunny and talks about the fact that he is

1:55:13.560 --> 1:55:17.040
<v Speaker 2>committing crimes. He does this very openly. They have him

1:55:17.120 --> 1:55:20.560
<v Speaker 2>recorded talking about the laws that he's broken. Because as

1:55:20.680 --> 1:55:23.400
<v Speaker 2>smart as he is in terms of how to get

1:55:23.480 --> 1:55:28.440
<v Speaker 2>himself going viral on TikTok, he's not comprehensive. Again, like

1:55:28.560 --> 1:55:30.880
<v Speaker 2>everything about Andrew, he's not as good as he thinks

1:55:30.920 --> 1:55:33.160
<v Speaker 2>he is, and in this case, it seems to have

1:55:33.240 --> 1:55:36.520
<v Speaker 2>bitten him in the ass. Now, it is worth noting

1:55:36.600 --> 1:55:39.920
<v Speaker 2>that Tate's house had been rated like six months before

1:55:40.040 --> 1:55:43.280
<v Speaker 2>his arrest, so he was aware that the police were

1:55:43.360 --> 1:55:45.160
<v Speaker 2>on him. It's kind of baffling to me that he

1:55:45.240 --> 1:55:47.400
<v Speaker 2>did not, and maybe it shows his arrogance that he

1:55:47.440 --> 1:55:50.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't try to flee the country with his assets or

1:55:50.160 --> 1:55:53.680
<v Speaker 2>as much of them as possible, and instead he kind

1:55:53.720 --> 1:55:56.400
<v Speaker 2>of seated his fan base with comments about the fact

1:55:56.440 --> 1:55:58.240
<v Speaker 2>that he was likely to be arrested or killed. This

1:55:58.360 --> 1:56:00.920
<v Speaker 2>is sort of a John McAfee, and I'm sure that's

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<v Speaker 2>who he's copying from. Here. Here's a clip from a

1:56:03.960 --> 1:56:07.040
<v Speaker 2>fan video I found with nearly seven hundred thousand views

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<v Speaker 2>at the time of publication of this episode.

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<v Speaker 11>This right here is one of my eighteen audiobooks that

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<v Speaker 11>I own.

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<v Speaker 2>It made another Audible.

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<v Speaker 11>They're Spanish for kids, and I don't even speak Spanish. Okay, guys,

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<v Speaker 11>I paid fifty dollars here the audio, and I just

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<v Speaker 11>uploaded the file to Audible. But what's amazing about this?

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<v Speaker 11>I make about fifty to one hundred sales, and for

1:56:33.440 --> 1:56:35.520
<v Speaker 11>each sale I get paid, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, part of why Andrew is because this is he.

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<v Speaker 2>He will tell you how to do a version of

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<v Speaker 2>this scam, and so will a million other people. Part

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<v Speaker 2>of why take gets away with what he's doing is

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<v Speaker 2>we have built a culture in which every single mass

1:56:49.120 --> 1:56:53.120
<v Speaker 2>media organ is largely supported by a variety of scams

1:56:53.200 --> 1:56:56.160
<v Speaker 2>and cons designed to suck money from people and provide

1:56:56.200 --> 1:56:59.840
<v Speaker 2>them with nothing. Including That's how YouTube makes its money.

1:57:00.120 --> 1:57:03.880
<v Speaker 2>This is a huge amount of YouTube's advertising, like is

1:57:04.000 --> 1:57:07.600
<v Speaker 2>shit like this. That's why Andrew is able to maneuver

1:57:07.760 --> 1:57:10.040
<v Speaker 2>and act is that our culture has created the space

1:57:10.120 --> 1:57:12.360
<v Speaker 2>where it is all nothing but a series of cons

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<v Speaker 2>from the top to the bottom. Anyway, let's let's watch

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<v Speaker 2>this video now of him talking about how he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be murdered for cracking the matrix.

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<v Speaker 4>To think they're not.

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<v Speaker 7>All I'm trying to do is teach men to be strong.

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<v Speaker 6>If they decide to kill me on a long enough timeframe,

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<v Speaker 6>they're going to be successful.

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<v Speaker 4>But I can't.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want to live in fear because what did

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<v Speaker 6>I say in the earlier tenant? If I become a coward,

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<v Speaker 6>I will live in fear and it breeds in action.

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<v Speaker 1>The music amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I want the world to know about.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely never ever kill myself under any circumstances. Ever, no

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<v Speaker 6>matter what they say, I did not kill myself. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't want to be seen as a threat to I

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<v Speaker 6>have to die. I want to be seen as a

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<v Speaker 6>positive force.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you right now. Andrew absolutely would commit

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<v Speaker 2>suicide if he thought he was never going to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of prison, just like John McAfee did. Just like Look,

1:58:04.480 --> 1:58:07.080
<v Speaker 2>narcissists do this all the time. He's just hoping that

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<v Speaker 2>he can rile people up, get folks angry, maybe inspire

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<v Speaker 2>some violence on his behalf. Again, this is a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>This is part of the playbook where he's not being

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<v Speaker 2>creative at all. He's just doing a John.

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<v Speaker 1>McAfee, literally doing a McAfee.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now, true to and I hope he I hope

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<v Speaker 2>he does the full McAfee, by the way, true to form.

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<v Speaker 2>Immediately after his request, someone with access to his account

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<v Speaker 2>posted a link to Hustler's University three point zero, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the newest face of his alle. He had just

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<v Speaker 2>launched this before he got arrested. Now Hustler's University three

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<v Speaker 2>point zero lifts at the link, join therealworld dot com

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<v Speaker 2>and on the website is a video made with clips

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<v Speaker 2>from The Matrix and some other movies, alongside clips of

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<v Speaker 2>Tate and clips of other YouTube stars attacking him because

1:58:54.400 --> 1:58:56.520
<v Speaker 2>he was like on Logan Paul's show, and then when

1:58:56.560 --> 1:58:59.640
<v Speaker 2>he got arrested, Logan Paul pretended that like he hated him.

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<v Speaker 2>All this stuff above the video is the text. It's

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<v Speaker 2>time to wake up Neo, Join us a mass wealth,

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<v Speaker 2>escape slavery. Hustler's University. Bustler is a university, Pustler's University.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to learn about Housler's University. There's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>rooms to go into and those rooms have a millionaire

1:59:16.600 --> 1:59:20.800
<v Speaker 2>professors who are taught by a millionaires that answer your questions.

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<v Speaker 2>They give you everything on a silver planning. It may

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<v Speaker 2>be impossible to not make money if you follow what

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<v Speaker 2>they see.

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<v Speaker 6>Not only having contact with actual multimillionaires, being part of

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<v Speaker 6>a community of students, we all helping you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a community people that are there for you, who

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<v Speaker 2>are in there for one thing and has to make money.

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<v Speaker 1>I've already made my money back after the first day.

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<v Speaker 2>I've made five k this month from just joining. That's

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<v Speaker 2>fucking crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>I've made four k in my first month, three two

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<v Speaker 6>thousand dollars for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>I just made the buckets. What it tells goalers the

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<v Speaker 2>great song, so fucking cheeks.

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<v Speaker 1>All in all, I made about three thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>I go with the match my nine to five income.

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<v Speaker 2>I shadowed that by five times.

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<v Speaker 4>It's had days where I made two or three thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's like what I used to make in a month.

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<v Speaker 7>That'll allow me.

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<v Speaker 2>There are so many guys in this video. We probably

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<v Speaker 2>saw like fucking close to one hundred of them in

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<v Speaker 2>that first series of just like different clips of people

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<v Speaker 2>talking about their experience with Hustler's University. Again, hundreds of

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of people who have paid him money directly and

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<v Speaker 2>have joined. And all of these dudes are still on

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<v Speaker 2>Hustler's University. It is still functioning as far as I

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<v Speaker 2>have heard, and presumably still deeply invested in Tait's success,

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is not a problem that's over and it is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we don't know the court case. Andrew and

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<v Speaker 2>his brother basically have not actually been formally charged yet

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<v Speaker 2>as of publication of this episode, or at least as

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<v Speaker 2>of the recording of it. They are on a thirty

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<v Speaker 2>day hold to while the Romanian court kind of gets

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<v Speaker 2>shit in order to see what they're actually going to

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<v Speaker 2>charge them on. Some of this is just that, like

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew's obviously a flight risk. He has whole videos about

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<v Speaker 2>all the private jets that he has access to, so

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see. I think there's a chance Andrew has played

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<v Speaker 2>his last cards, although I think there's a chance he

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<v Speaker 2>winds up getting out. And this has another ugly chapter,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a very good chance he's going to do

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<v Speaker 2>serious prison time, like ten plus years in Romania. And however,

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<v Speaker 2>Rabbit his fan base is now, if he spends years

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<v Speaker 2>in prison, I think that will dull his appeal for

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<v Speaker 2>one thing, it'll make him look like a loser. But

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<v Speaker 2>in the here and now, all we are all left

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<v Speaker 2>with the problem of all of these fucking people, these

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<v Speaker 2>young minds, these weirdos, these kids that he's influenced. Multiple schools,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in the United Kingdom, have had to hold classes

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<v Speaker 2>and seminars on de radicalizing teenage boys who fell through

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Tate. And I'm going to close this episode by

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<v Speaker 2>reading a quote from one of those articles in the

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<v Speaker 2>Times of London. His initial attraction to young people, said

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<v Speaker 2>one teacher was often his advice around being confident and

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<v Speaker 2>financially successful, and from there he capitalizes on a post

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<v Speaker 2>me too anxiety with comments such as females don't have

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<v Speaker 2>independent thought, they don't come up with anything. They're just

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<v Speaker 2>empty vessels waiting for someone to install the programming. Jay Jordan,

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<v Speaker 2>a teacher in Dundee of five years, said the recent

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<v Speaker 2>interest in Tate had made boys more hostile. Used to

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<v Speaker 2>have to deal with sexist stuff, but now it's explicitly

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<v Speaker 2>connected to Andrew Tate. The boys do not stop talking

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<v Speaker 2>about him, she said. In one class she reprimanded a

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen year old, you're just a woman, he responded. Jordan,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven, said, we've definitely gone backwards and it is worrying.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the fun place to end the Andrew Tait cast,

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<v Speaker 2>the Tate pisodes. How we doing gang? Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>That's just yeah, like I said before, it's I'm scared

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<v Speaker 4>because there's like hundreds of thousands of boys and young

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<v Speaker 4>men who think like this and like they're they're not

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<v Speaker 4>they're not in jail, they're not going anywhere, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>So like that this mindset and this ideology is going

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<v Speaker 4>to continue to be proliferated, and it's it's pretty, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is terrifying, and it's it's worth noting again people talking about, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the solution, is throwing him in prison the solution,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, no, throwing him in prison is a tourniquet.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I think it might stop his ability to grow

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<v Speaker 2>the way that he would have grown if it hadn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Deplatforming was a total failure in this, Like kicking him

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<v Speaker 2>off of shit did nothing but increase his reach in

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<v Speaker 2>his profitability because of the quote unquote controversy that got

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<v Speaker 2>jam and the thing to blame here, there's a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of things. Number One, the structure of social media is

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<v Speaker 2>to blame the structure of social media in order to

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<v Speaker 2>stop and Andrew Tait. It's not getting better arresting these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It's changing the structure of social media to not reward

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of conflicts that he deliberately incited. In order

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<v Speaker 2>to the fact that like, if you do something super

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<v Speaker 2>fucked up and racist and people get angry about it,

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<v Speaker 2>it increases your reach on every social media app that exists.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a huge part of the problem, and the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why that will not change is fundamentally that's how all

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<v Speaker 2>of these people make money, whether they're the good Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>the bad elon tw Twitter, they all made their money

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<v Speaker 2>by making people fight or by not making people fight,

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<v Speaker 2>but by sharing things that would make people angry so

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<v Speaker 2>that they would engage in fights. That's a big part

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<v Speaker 2>of what Andrew Tate recognized. The other thing is the

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<v Speaker 2>entire structure of the system that we live under, rewards,

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<v Speaker 2>cons and grifts. It is all figure out what the latest.

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<v Speaker 2>As technology increases, there are more opportunities to run versions

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<v Speaker 2>of the same old MLM scam that will not be

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<v Speaker 2>recognized yet by the government as illegal. Right, So you

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<v Speaker 2>get in there as fast as you can, and you

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<v Speaker 2>make your money, and then you fucking escape. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is the way. This is the fucking cryptocurrency thing, right,

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<v Speaker 2>This is all that NFT shit. It's this. This the

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<v Speaker 2>new scam that is really just the old scam dressed

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<v Speaker 2>up in enough of a coat of paint that nobody

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<v Speaker 2>recognizes that like, none of like the law doesn't recognize

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<v Speaker 2>it for a couple of years. That's all Andrew has

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<v Speaker 2>ever been doing. That's all he is purporting to teach you.

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<v Speaker 2>And he just was sloppy enough with aspects of his life,

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<v Speaker 2>and that he wasn't able to keep doing it long enough, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>the only reason he got caught is that he bragged

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<v Speaker 2>about breaking the laws in Romania and that they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>going to punish him. And also he was too good

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<v Speaker 2>at becoming famous. If he had stayed a few levels

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<v Speaker 2>lower than this, if he'd stayed at like that Alex

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<v Speaker 2>Jones level or whatever of social media influence, even he

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<v Speaker 2>probably would have kept getting away with it. But he

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<v Speaker 2>was so big that it created such a fuss, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Romanian government had to be like, look now he's

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<v Speaker 2>bragging about sex trafficking, and the EU's angry at us

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<v Speaker 2>because we already have this problem. Let's destroy this guy's

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<v Speaker 2>life in order to because he basically forced us to write.

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<v Speaker 2>If he'd been a little bit less of an idiot,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more careful, he would have gotten away

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<v Speaker 2>with it for longer, and the next one probably will.

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<v Speaker 2>Although maybe all of these guys, because they're narcissists, are

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<v Speaker 2>unable to kind of pull back from the ledge before

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<v Speaker 2>they go over it. I guess that's the optimistic thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe fundamentally, the kind of guy who can do and

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Tait is always going to be so much of

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<v Speaker 2>an egomaniac that they can't stop themselves. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think the way that he's reached his audience

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<v Speaker 1>should be examined and that it's truly terrifying. It's truly

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<v Speaker 1>terrifying the reach that he has and that the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>basically has rewarded him for it. I hope these days

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<v Speaker 1>in jail, yeah, long time and fizzles out. But as

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<v Speaker 1>we can see, Andrew Tate clones will just keep popping up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, And that's that's the scary thing. Like somebody

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<v Speaker 4>else who can can just like study this model, find

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<v Speaker 4>the holes in it and patch it up and then

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you got your next Andrew Tate, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>four point zero or whatever. And that's what's scary about

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<v Speaker 4>it is as long as our current social media ecosystem

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<v Speaker 4>exists and the way news is covered, you know, as

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<v Speaker 4>long as that model exists, somebody is just going to

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<v Speaker 4>keep finding ways to exploit this and and do the

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<v Speaker 4>same thing. And uh yeah, that's that's scary.

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<v Speaker 2>It is scary. But you know what's not scary, you're pluggables,

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<v Speaker 2>that's you ian.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you got.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh hmmm, uh yeah, I would just say I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>cool Zone Media, great team, great great people, great podcasts,

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<v Speaker 4>and oh tennis, I'll plug tennis. I'm really into I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just starting to play and I'm excited to get out

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<v Speaker 4>there and get better. Australian Open is going on right now,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would like to plug that. Live music is beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>and Andrew Day it can go fuck himself at Equal

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<v Speaker 1>Zone Media and all the things. Robert, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>anything specifically you would like to plug.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have a book called After the Revolution. If

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<v Speaker 2>you just google ak Press After the Revolution you can

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<v Speaker 2>find it and buy a physical copy. You can also

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<v Speaker 2>just go to atrbook dot com and find the e

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<v Speaker 2>book for free, or just listen to the podcast of

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<v Speaker 2>the same name, So check that out. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>substack it's shatter Zone. Just google shatter Zone substack and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll find that. I'll get another thing up there soon. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>that's me. You know, you could you could start calling

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<v Speaker 2>me top G if you wanted to. Sophie, do we

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a good marketing term? Okay, well, what if

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<v Speaker 2>I do my Boston accent and I try to teach

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<v Speaker 2>kids how to how to make their twelve year old

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<v Speaker 2>cousins legally labor for them without payment.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, there might be something that I love.

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<v Speaker 2>You well, thank you, thank you, Ian, thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>believing me. Would you like to join my discord for

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<v Speaker 2>a five thousand dollars?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, let's see it? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, Well everybody, I've got a new

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<v Speaker 2>con to get off to. So everybody have a great

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<v Speaker 2>day and feel better than you feel listening to this episode.

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