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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, Robert here. First off, we are doing a

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Speaker 2: but also my Earth Day came recently. We took some

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Speaker 2: the first four Tait episodes with ad breaks and stuff removed.

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Speaker 2: I also wanted to tell you Ed Zitron is in

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Speaker 2: You can also just google Ed Zitron, Webbies, Molly Conger

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Speaker 2: Webbys and you will find them. Please do vote for them.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back next week with two brand new episodes

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Speaker 2: on what Tait has been up to over the last

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Speaker 2: couple of years and a bunch of really fucked up

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Speaker 2: information that's come up. So please enjoy these episodes the

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Speaker 2: reruns with less ads, and go vote in the Webbies.

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Speaker 3: Ooy, it's stin roll of it.

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Speaker 2: Opening up another episode of The Andrew tight pood Yist. Wow,

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Speaker 2: that was incredible. I think I'm gonna try my American accent. Now,

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Speaker 2: I hope that's not offensive to anybody. I'm Robert Evans.

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Speaker 2: This is the first and only Boston based.

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Speaker 1: Podcast Behind the Past more like.

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Speaker 2: Behind the Master's like like Massachusetts.

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Speaker 4: It somehow keeps getting worse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was pretty good. I thought that

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Speaker 1: I would be more offended if I actually liked Boston,

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Speaker 1: which I don't. So no, my god, I'm it's so

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Speaker 1: bad that I started to fit. My whole face is right,

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Speaker 1: and I've teared up.

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Speaker 2: You see a lot of the times we ignore the

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Speaker 2: reddit when we disagree with it, but today the subreddits

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Speaker 2: filled with Bostonians saying my accent is perfect. So I

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Speaker 2: have decided to take that as a mandate to continue

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Speaker 2: speaking in a Boston accent. Well, everybody, this is Behind

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Speaker 2: the Bastards. It's a podcast. Bad people tell you.

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Speaker 4: All about it.

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Speaker 1: Oh whoa. I have a Jamie loftist text that says,

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Speaker 1: Butch Jack Tommy, they're on their way through Deadpool DVDs

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Speaker 1: that you like throwing stars if you do not stop

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Speaker 1: the Boston accent.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, Jamie is not really from Boston because

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Speaker 2: she's from She's from she's from Huavid Bracton. Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: don't consider that Baston where I'm from, which is I

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Speaker 2: don't know the parts of Boston. Look this, this joke

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Speaker 2: was always going to run into the limitation of me

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Speaker 2: not knowing anything about Boston. The Liberty Bell. I'm from

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Speaker 2: the Liberty Bell. So yeah, that's as Boston as it gets.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, they have a really shitty basketball team.

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Speaker 2: I've heard that about Boston from Bostonians. Yeah. Anyway, this

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Speaker 2: is this is behind the bastards we are. We are

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Speaker 2: heading into veering into part three of our our epic

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Speaker 2: podcast on Andrew Tait that I and all of you

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Speaker 2: were cruelly forced to make because he suddenly, very suddenly

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Speaker 2: became extremely relevant and all of all of this, all

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Speaker 2: of our accents, all of our cross talk, is an

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Speaker 2: attempt to distract ourselves from the fact that we unfortunately

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Speaker 2: have to learn a lot more about Andrew Tate and

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Speaker 2: and Sophie.

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Speaker 4: Ian.

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Speaker 2: I know I'm about to force a terrible, terrible quantity

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Speaker 2: of Andrew Tate video.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I and Johnson, our editor.

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Speaker 2: I Ian Johnson, our editor. Hey, champion Sweet Prince, Kickboxing

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Speaker 2: champion of the World.

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Speaker 4: I'm just mentally preparing myself for a bunch of horrific

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Speaker 4: Andrew Tate TikTok videos. So let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Not to mention one half of the DJ group Gladiator

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Speaker 1: with our very own DJ Daniel, we have the we

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Speaker 1: thing to brag about.

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Speaker 2: All of these things, all of these things are true.

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Speaker 2: And what's also true is that I have watched hours

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Speaker 2: of Andrew Tait. The people who live with me have

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Speaker 2: tells people how to how to hustle. Yeah, I have

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Speaker 2: Uh so, yeah, let's let's let's roll into it.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that to people.

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Speaker 2: All of our money comes from doing it.

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Speaker 2: See, I mean, the whole reason this podcast works and

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Speaker 1: I guess I know who I owe apologies to on

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Speaker 2: into it. When we left off there there, Andrew and

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Speaker 2: something a rapist did say, So it was never he

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Speaker 2: was never particularly good at hiding it and spoilers. It

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Speaker 2: may prove to be a bad idea to taunt the

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Speaker 2: it turns out a great way to get a government

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Speaker 2: But that's a few years in the future, because for

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Speaker 2: he's instagramming as he starts to buy these supercars, as

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Speaker 4: But the catch was that, So just to be clear,

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Speaker 2: Right, That's where it starts coming in from. As we'll

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Speaker 2: actually where all his money comes from because he is

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Speaker 2: but the end of it, Tate's like, I had a

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Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen, I think is the year that the Tate

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Speaker 2: Tape Pill. Yeah, oh yeah, it's amazing. Let me breathe

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Speaker 2: in your sorrow Sophie. Mmm, that fuels me.

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Speaker 1: N I missed the Boston exit.

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Speaker 2: I yeah, see that. That was the plan all along,

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Speaker 2: later and Sophie. I put a picture in there of

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got that. Ian, You're feeling good.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't make me show this to you.

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Speaker 4: let's keep going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't say oh no.

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Speaker 4: This whole thing is just giving me like Dan Blasarian vibes.

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Speaker 4: I feel like he like saw a bunch of Dan

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Dan Bulsarian, who was like this big right

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Speaker 2: Dan Bulsarian. Great guy. Um yeah. I mean think the

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Speaker 6: Your take. I'm twenty nine years old and I'm a

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Speaker 2: But so that's Andrew Taate. Yeah, I mean you see

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Speaker 4: Before he went on the show, was he already kind

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Speaker 2: I certainly wouldn't call him famous. He was, you know,

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Speaker 2: Here's his biograph. Andrew is a member of Mensa that Andrew.

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Speaker 1: As the Iowa Writers Workshop, which I was fucking right about.

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Speaker 2: right now. Text Jamie about this. Does Jamie know that

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Speaker 2: I'm going to continue Andrew's bio from The Big Brother Wick.

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Speaker 2: Andrew was a four time world kickboxing champion. His brother,

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Speaker 2: What a sad sentence. Andrew believes that a man should

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds like a perfect encapsulation.

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Speaker 2: and which, among other incidents, led to him being barred

437
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: from Twitter. The backlash one Tate work and boosted his profile.

438
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 2: He appeared on info Wars, the podcast of conspiracy theorist

439
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: Alex Jones, was pictured with far right YouTuber Paul Joseph Watson,

440
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: and met Donald Trump Junior at Trump Tower, posting on

441
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 2: Facebook afterwards the Tate family support Trump fully.

442
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: Maga cool from hell Yeah.

443
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's tic tac towed his way through the

444
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: very worst people in our society. In twenty nineteen, police

445
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: were called after Tate showed up at the house of

446
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 2: Mike Stuckberry, a journalist who had been critical about him

447
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 2: online days acts after Yaxley Lennon, that's Tommy Robinson, who

448
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 2: he did an episode, did the same thing. The incident

449
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: caused Stuckberry's wife to suffer a panic attack and played

450
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: a role in them leaving the UK for Germany. So

451
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: both that's gross physical intermidation of a guy who's criticized him,

452
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: but also he's just doing the same thing Tommy Robinson did,

453
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 2: so you can see at this point he's not a

454
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 2: figure in his own right. Yet when you are copying

455
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 2: Tommy fucking Robinson, you have not yet ascended, right. That

456
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: is one of the sadder right wing grifters to be

457
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: following in the footsteps of So he's working on it,

458
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: but he hasn't yet blown his way kind of out

459
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 2: of the pack. All of this controversy, all of these

460
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: appearances on right wing talk shows and podcasts, did successfully

461
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: elevate Tait's profile, and he started funneling his new fans

462
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: towards his new business, one with a wider appeal than

463
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: webcam prostitution. He began offering a series of classes to

464
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: his followers. Initially, this was sleazy pickup artist shit classes

465
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 2: on how to get women. The market for that is

466
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: very crowded, though. Here's how Tate attempted to set himself

467
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: apart from the pickup artist community. From the promotional material

468
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: I found for his now defunct PhD program fuck up

469
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 2: What Yeah, Yeah, it stands for something gross I forgot,

470
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 2: but I'm going to read you the ad copy that

471
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: he wrote for this fucking thing. Andrew Tate is world

472
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: champion kickboxer who owns and operates strip clubs in webcam studios.

473
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: With over seventy five girls working for him. He has

474
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 2: created a system that allows you to get girls quickly, easily,

475
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: and without spending money. Unlike other pickup artists who have

476
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: the odd girl here and there, Tate has top quality

477
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: that's in caps women living with him and making him

478
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: money full time. This makes him more qualified than any

479
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: other coach on the internet. Do you want to learn

480
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: how to get the odd girl from a pickup artist?

481
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,719
Speaker 2: Or learn how to build an army of women who

482
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: are so loyal to you that they allow you to

483
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: have as many girls as you want. More importantly, he

484
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: has a fool proof system for retaining women, having them

485
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 2: do as you say and respecting you without taking up

486
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 2: or wasting large amounts of your time. As Tate said,

487
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to tin unless she does everything I say.

488
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 2: It's obedience and loyalty that turns me on more than looks.

489
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 2: Whether you're looking to get girls, simply have your girlfriend

490
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 2: obey every command and be fiercely loyal, or learn how

491
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: to live with three or four girlfriends at once as

492
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 2: Tate does. This is the course for you. So do

493
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: were you go? Guys?

494
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: So do we think? Hitch was his favorite movie?

495
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: Soybe, I don't think you're allowed to make references to Hitch.

496
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: Nobody's seen Hitch.

497
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: Have you seen Hitch with Will Smith?

498
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 4: I have seen Hitch. It's a I mean, you know,

499
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 4: it's a it's a fun little movie.

500
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: Is the allergic reaction for oh that was? You know,

501
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: bring it back? Yeah? Yeah, that that entire thing was disgusting, Robert,

502
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: thank you for sharing.

503
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah it was. When I found that, I just

504
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: knew that was. I did a little chef's kiss, like

505
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,479
Speaker 2: I was like I was cooking up some spaghetti. Uh,

506
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: it was good. It was good. Now a big part

507
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: of Tate's branding, and this is the same thing when

508
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: you are an influencer, right, if you're trying to build

509
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: like a cultishly loyal following, you have to use cult techniques,

510
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: and that means creating words that were not in use

511
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 2: before you started using them, and or at least repurposing

512
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: words in ways that other people don't use them and

513
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: getting your fans to talk that way. And one of

514
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: the things Tate note knew this. And Tate also he

515
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: had paid attention to guys. You know again, think back

516
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: to our other cult leaders. We've got guys like Keith

517
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 2: Ranieri who was called Vanguard. We've got l Ron Hubbard,

518
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: who was the commodore. I forget what Werner Erhard went by,

519
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: but we just did his episodes. And for Tate, the

520
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: kind of name that he had his fans call him

521
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: is top G. And you will see this in a

522
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: shitload of zoomer TikTok videos. I want to play first

523
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: a video for you of him talking to his brother

524
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: about what top G means.

525
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: And this is from the Tate Pill you tube channel,

526
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: which all that's.

527
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: The only YouTube channel that I visit.

528
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, top G and Tate Pill, all those names make

529
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: me want to cry.

530
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: It's good stuff, Sylvie.

531
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: Here's the clip top G.

532
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: Everyone says top G. Kids are now wearing T shirts

533
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: and top G on it. I want to be a

534
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: top G. I want to be the top G. He

535
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: basically trademarket. So what do you mean by top G?

536
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 7: Top G is an individual who is capable in all realms.

537
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 4: As my father said.

538
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 6: Sheer into fatiguability and unmatched perspicacity made him a feared

539
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 6: opponent in all realms of human endeavor. When you are

540
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 6: top G, you are dangerous at everything. That's why I'm

541
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 6: talk to If they were to say to you, you

542
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 6: have to go on a racetrack and race Tait in cars,

543
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 6: he'd be like, shit, that's as you have to go

544
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 6: in the boxing ring and fight Tate, share fight, you

545
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 6: have to go debate tape ship crely, you have to

546
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 6: go try and get a girl and takes also trying

547
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 6: to get the girl. Shit, it's against It doesn't matter

548
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 6: what the competition is. As soon as they say my name,

549
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 6: you're gonna be like a fox, my unmatched perstpocacity, my

550
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 6: ability to perceive, my sheer India believe the fact that

551
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 6: I never get tired. You add all this together. I

552
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 6: am a feared opponent in any almost human endeavor, even

553
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 6: things I don't yet know how to do.

554
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 7: You do not want to compete with me.

555
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 1: In those things.

556
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 6: That is why I am.

557
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: So First off, it feels like he wasn't as good

558
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: at chess as he says because his dad had to

559
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: kick him out of a contest for crying too much.

560
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: Just do do keep that in mind as he makes

561
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: these claims. Now, I don't believe that Andrew Tait is

562
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: a competition race car driver because he has never done that.

563
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: And also by the way I again, because he makes

564
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: claims like this. I went to like race car Twitter

565
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: to see what they said about him.

566
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: And they had.

567
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: A lot of weird There were a lot of you

568
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: run into people making these weird niche criticisms about his

569
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: supercars and how they're not the right.

570
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: Kind of it's a weird thing.

571
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: It's an expensive car that goes fast. And if you're

572
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: a supercar nerd and disagree, you can go to hell.

573
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: Because I enjoyed reading and found it like enlightening reading

574
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: the chess and the kickboxing subreddits. The supercar people are insufferable,

575
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: even the ones that don't like Andrew Tait.

576
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: So I I do love that. That's Robertson.

577
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where he draws a line. It's like the

578
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 4: supercars just really were too much.

579
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: Because they were like, well, no, you want this supercar,

580
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: not that one. I would never get. I was like,

581
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: you don't like none of you. I'm sorry, I don't

582
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: I you you people. I don't believe.

583
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: Oh god, I can just imagine these supercar fuckers like

584
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: Tinder profiles. They're so horrible. Their car is there, you know,

585
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: the car is in the picture.

586
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I simply don't care. What you have to say

587
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: about his supercars. But what I do care about is

588
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: the fact that as silly as that all is, the

589
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: top g shit worked. And as evidence for this, I

590
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: have just sent another link to the chat. This is

591
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: a protest in Athens, Greece, where what appears to be

592
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: visually several thousand adult men and a number of men

593
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: who are boys marching through the streets of Athens. And

594
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: I want, Sophie, I want you to just play what

595
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: they're chanting. Yeah, this was right after his arrest. Yeah,

596
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: I know what this is. I'm sad. And that is like,

597
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: it's not a I'll say this, that's not like a

598
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: tiny flash mob. There's a lot of there is a

599
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: there is a distressing number of men in the street.

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00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: There's a distressing number of men in the streets. That's

601
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: in Greece.

602
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: Yes, it is not great. So this works very well.

603
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: Tate was very successful. And again we've already covered the

604
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: degree to which he's exaggerating and out right lying about

605
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: his competence, But he's successful at pushing a persona of

606
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: himself as hyper competent and irresistible to women. As we've

607
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: already covered a lot of what he says is objectively untrue.

608
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: His kickboxing record was cooked, his businesses are mostly cheap

609
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: scams or outright criminal enterprises. We'll get into that more

610
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: in a second, but it's worth digging into first the

611
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: reality behind the Andrew Tate method of picking up women.

612
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: In the wake of Tate's arrest, a brave nineteen year

613
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: old Romanian woman named Daria Gusha Gusa reached out to BuzzFeed.

614
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: She told them and provided evidence that in twenty twenty,

615
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: when she was sixteen, Andrew Tate slid into her dms

616
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: on Instagram with a message that read Romanian girl strawberry emoji,

617
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: which I think is a sex thing. The strawberry emoji,

618
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what you kids use.

619
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: When Tate messaged strawberry emoji. All right, carry on.

620
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: On the gram, yes, Sophie, geez, get with the kids,

621
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: get with the times. When Tate messaged her, her Instagram

622
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: bio had the name of her fancy private school, and

623
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: she told BuzzFeed that a number of other girls in

624
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: her class had been messaged by Tate around the same

625
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: time in the same way. So it seems like he

626
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: was looking for basically just like filtering his responses from

627
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: girls in this private school who were like sixteen, and

628
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: then messaging a bunch of them at once. Daria did

629
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: not respond, but her friends. Some of her friends did,

630
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: and Tate complimented them, telling them how beautiful they were.

631
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: He bragged about his wealth, and he offered to take

632
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: them to expensive restaurants. After a short back and forth,

633
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: he would every time try to meet up with the girls,

634
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: be like, hey, we should meet up right now. Where

635
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: are you I'll come pick you up, we can go

636
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: out and eat. And I'm going to quote from BuzzFeed next.

637
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: None of her friends went ahead with meeting with him,

638
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: she said, and once Tate realized they weren't going to,

639
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: he started to insult them. The second that girl stopped

640
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: replying to him, he starts getting a bit verbally abusive,

641
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: calling them ugly and stuff right like that, just to

642
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: get the reaction out of them and keep engaging with them.

643
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: Guza said, And that's I think useful to go over

644
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: because that's normal shitty guy on the internet stuff. That is,

645
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: there's a guy's doing that. There's nothing special about him.

646
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: He doesn't have some sort of secret. He's not irresistible.

647
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: He's just doing the same thing that Like, there's like

648
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: there's a whole bunch of Twitter accounts that like semi

649
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 2: professionally post like screen grabs of guys sliding into women's

650
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: dms all around the world doing that exact thing. Like,

651
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: there's nothing about his method that is special or rare.

652
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 2: He just practices it exclusively on children. And you know

653
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: what he's doing is he's I'm sure shotgunning out these

654
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: requests to so many people that statistically, just like with

655
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: like a you know exactly, it's like one of those

656
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: like email scams. Right, some number of people are going

657
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: to like respond, It'll work on some number of people,

658
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: and that's all he cares about, right, And I do

659
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: think that's important because when it comes to actual pick

660
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: up artistry or whatever you want to call it, Andrew

661
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: Tate is no different than every other frustrated adult male

662
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: piece of shit looking to flirt with little kids.

663
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah you're not special, motherfucker, just like every other.

664
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, he is just like every other creep behind

665
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: the curtain. Now, none of this, though, is public. During

666
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: the rise of Andrew Tate's social media profile or his

667
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: main online business, which would become Hustler's University. That's what

668
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: he calls this like series of classes and training programs

669
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: that he starts to launch, and it's the kind of

670
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: thing like he is undeniably good at getting people, and

671
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: it's mostly the people who mostly believe this image he's

672
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 2: crafted are children, right, they are also children. They're male children.

673
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: All of his victims, the women that he the girls

674
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: that he's flirting with, are mostly children or of extremely

675
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: young adults. And the people with.

676
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 4: Exactly who can't do critical thinking or make like a

677
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 4: big decisions.

678
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And the people he's trying to get money

679
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: from are like boys from like I'm going to say,

680
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: age twelve to twenty, and uh yeah, that's that's that's

681
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: who this shit works on.

682
00:35:59,560 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 4: Now.

683
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: I found an eight hour class from Hustler's University up

684
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 2: on YouTube, which is just part one of.

685
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: His watching around the hut.

686
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: I sure did, I sure did. There are you can

687
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: find a lot of these have been uploaded since his arrest,

688
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: and there's like a hundred of them, like so many hours.

689
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: Doing house chores and then last this.

690
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 2: I'm sweeping, I'm cleaning, you know, I'm standing standing naked

691
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: doing planks on my in my living room floor. Normal stuff,

692
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: your living room floor. Oh yeah, that's the only place

693
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: I do it. So, uh yeah, I felt like I

694
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: had to watch through these because Tate claims at the

695
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 2: start that these do contain his entire understanding of business

696
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: and how to make money. I figured watching it would

697
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: give me some insight into the soul of the man himself.

698
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: And boy, howdy did it ever? Oh god, So we're

699
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: going to go into that in a little bit. But

700
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 2: first you know what we're going to go into.

701
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, is it an AD break? Isn't an adreak?

702
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 2: It sure is an AD break. It's some products, some services,

703
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 2: the odd product and service. We're going to go into that.

704
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 2: I'm going to do my hustle before we we we

705
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: introduce you all to Hustler's University.

706
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: Oh, Robert, that was despicable.

707
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, welcome to the potty Pal. We are back back.

708
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: So Hustler's University starts out pretty boring. He gives his

709
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: definition of a business, which is a thing that money

710
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: goes into. Right, that's the only thing a business is.

711
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 4: So thanks thanks for explaining that. Thanks, I have no

712
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 4: idea before Okay.

713
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. Andrew. Well It's interesting because since

714
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: a business is only something money goes into, if you

715
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: are putting money into startup costs, if you're putting money

716
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: into R and D, if you're paying for things like PR,

717
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: that is all a waste of time, right, because that's

718
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: spending money. A business only takes money in. Now, you

719
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: may be saying, well, but you have to spend money

720
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: to make money. That's like a thing everybody knows about business.

721
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: That's just the way that it works, right, Andrew says no,

722
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: And in order to explain what a fool you are,

723
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: he gives an example of a good business that he

724
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: had an idea for. And this first example of a

725
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: good business is starting a website to sell makeup online. Now,

726
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: he says, he's adamant that like, you don't need to

727
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 2: have any makeup, you don't need to have a product.

728
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: All you do is you make a website selling makeup,

729
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: and then you wait for a bunch of people to

730
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: buy the makeup, and then you figure out where to

731
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: get makeup with the money that they've spent on makeup

732
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: that you didn't have before, and then you send it

733
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: to them. Sounds like that's genius brain level business stuff.

734
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 2: Start a fraudulent makeup business and then buy makeup once

735
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 2: you start getting money. I don't think that that would work,

736
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: in part because there's a lot of makeup that's a

737
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: real company out there that people can buy from.

738
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 4: A lot of other options act makeup.

739
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I'm sure a lot of people have

740
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: that question. How are you supposed to actually get cash

741
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 2: flow started without investing, without having something to make people

742
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 2: want to buy your makeup? And Tate has an answer

743
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: for you, and that answer is child labor. So I'm

744
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: going to play a clip from you and as an aside,

745
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: during this clip, when you hear him tell someone to

746
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: wipe down his whiteboard, it's some random cam worker in

747
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: his home. It's a young woman who lives with him

748
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: that he has doing minor chores in the background. This

749
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: is the thing that he does in all of his videos.

750
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 6: Family and friends are actually the best staff you can

751
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 6: possibly get. Now, people say, don't mix friends with business,

752
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 6: don't mix family with business. Can you clean my board?

753
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 6: Sit here and wipe it, please, don't mix friends with business. Off,

754
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 6: don't mix friends with business, don't mix family with business.

755
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: That's a lie.

756
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 6: So the reason people say this is because people are heads,

757
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 6: and they can't get along with anyone. They're not They

758
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 6: can't get along with anybody long enough to make any money.

759
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 6: But I guarantee you have family members right this second

760
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 6: who could make you money. I guarantee you you have

761
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 6: a fifteen year old niece, nephew, cousin, brother, whoever, who

762
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 6: knows more about computers than you do. I guarantee there's

763
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 6: a fifteen year old out there with nothing better to do,

764
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 6: who knows more about photoshop.

765
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 8: Than you do.

766
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 6: Right now, his stupid ass needs a job, so you

767
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 6: can start a company right now.

768
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's that seems good, right, That's that's

769
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 2: a solid business idea. Have have young relatives and trick

770
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: them into working for you. Absolutely genius, Andrew you are.

771
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: You are the finest business mind of our generation. Now

772
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: he follows this up with his next incredible piece of

773
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: corporate advice, which I think might be of interest to

774
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: some prosecutors in Romania. And I'm gonna have Sophie play

775
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: that one next.

776
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 6: Don't get legal before you get rich. This is super important.

777
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 6: We're talking about hustling here. I'm telling you the hacks

778
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 6: to becoming rich.

779
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: Do not get.

780
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 6: Legal before you are rich, you can fix your legal

781
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 6: bullshit when you've already made money. It's a shame of

782
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 6: deleting my word erase to my beautiful makeup diagram. But

783
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 6: it's very similar to what we were saying earlier.

784
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 4: I know, so.

785
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 6: Registered for VAT, registered with the tax man, already have

786
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 6: an accountant, and haven't made any money yet. I in

787
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 6: most of my companies, will make a million dollars before

788
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 6: I'll even consider fucking around with a tax form, talking

789
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 6: to an accountant, or registering any fucking companies. All that

790
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 6: shit is on the layer base until you have proved

791
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 6: the viability of your company and you have money coming in.

792
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 6: When you're rich and you have money in the bank,

793
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 6: then worry about that stuff. Don't waste your time, energy

794
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 6: and money doing all that legal crap before you know

795
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 6: anything about whether your business is going.

796
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 4: To work on.

797
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: Don't do crime. That's a crime.

798
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 7: It's time sink.

799
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 6: If every time I had to start a company or

800
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 6: an idea, I had to go register a company, getting

801
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 6: account and do tax forms, do VAT form, what a

802
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 6: waste of time. I've started maybe one hundred companies in

803
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 6: my life. Twenty of them made money. You're telling me

804
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 6: eighty times, I would have had to fuck around. Don't

805
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 6: do that. I know so many people who have a

806
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 6: company legally but don't have a company in reality, because

807
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 6: it exists as a legal entity, but it does not

808
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 6: provide cash.

809
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 7: A company provides cash.

810
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 6: If you're a street drug dealer, you own a company

811
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 6: much more than the guy with all the legal entities

812
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 6: which ain't making money.

813
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 4: Do not.

814
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 6: We're hustlers here. It's the hustler's university. Do not confuse

815
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 6: this money in what's the lessons I've been teaching you?

816
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 7: Money in? Where's the money in?

817
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 4: Pointing at the empty white fig written on it, there's nothing?

818
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 4: Oh my god, ah oh yeah.

819
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: So because people this is an audio medium, he is

820
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,479
Speaker 2: like pointing and circling things on an empty whiteboard because

821
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: he's forgotten that he had one of his cam workers

822
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: erase everything on it. Obviously, this is terrible advice, in

823
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: part because if you start a business that doesn't make

824
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: a profit and you did not do any of the

825
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 2: legal things you needed to do, there's a good chance

826
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: that at some point the taxman will come and say, hey,

827
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: you didn't do all this shit you needed to do,

828
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: and we know that you know now you owe us

829
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: a shitload of money, and because your business failed, you

830
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: owe even more because you broke a bunch of laws.

831
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: That's one thing that is concerning about the advice that

832
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: he's giving. Although anyone who's going to start companies using

833
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: the Andrew Tate advice probably deserves to be in trouble

834
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: with the irs or whoever, so I'm not going to

835
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: complain too much about it. But also I kind of

836
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: hope someone in Romania is aware of these videos, because

837
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: I suspect Andrew Tate did not dot the ises or

838
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: cross the t's necessary to make all of his shady

839
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: businesses legal in that country. He was operating casinos and

840
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: strip clubs in the country once he got rich, like

841
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: actual ones, not just CAM ones, So I kind of

842
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 2: think there's a decent chance he will wind up getting

843
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: extra charges as a result of not legally operating any

844
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: of his businesses. Fun thing to brag about, Andrew. So

845
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: the next point he makes in this video of really

846
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: just irreplaceable financial advice is use what you've got, And

847
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: this is where Andrew actually gives us some context on

848
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: how he started his cam business and why. But first

849
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: we get a little bit more child labor advocacy.

850
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 6: I just gave you the example of the fifteen year

851
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 6: old cousin who can make websites. Now you own a

852
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 6: website company, or your fifteen year old cousin who can

853
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 6: do I don't know fucking who knows what he can do?

854
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 7: He can mow lawns.

855
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 6: Every fifteen year old can mow lawns. Now you have

856
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 6: a lawnmowing business. Bang, tell his stupid ass to go

857
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 6: deliver some flyers. Drive him round your car, play some

858
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 6: two pac, chill out in your car, text some bitches,

859
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 6: drive it five miles an hour. Let him drop off

860
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 6: all the leaflets, and then let him mow all the lawns.

861
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 6: You collect all the money and just pay him a percentage. Bang,

862
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 6: you now own a lawnmoaning company. Congratulations, Use what you got.

863
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 6: I made a lot of money with webcam girls. If

864
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 6: you're watching this, you don't know that webcam girls. You

865
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 6: can go to a chatterbait dot com. You see girls

866
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 6: on there on webcam getting naked talking to dudes, taking money.

867
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 6: That made me millions and millions of dollars. I came

868
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 6: up with that idea by sticking to this principle.

869
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: Use what you've got so.

870
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 7: Right now, if you're sitting there, what are you saying?

871
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 4: And I mean everything this way?

872
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 6: Have the car, it's on lease. You have physical strength,

873
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 6: I'll say you're a strong guy. When I was making

874
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 6: my list, I was right and everything now and I

875
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 6: was like, well, I've got six girlfriends. Six girlfriends, so okay,

876
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 6: strip How can girls make you money?

877
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 7: Strip club?

878
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 6: But that takes money to set up? Remember costs again,

879
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 6: I cannot get money in.

880
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 7: A strip club without the club.

881
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 6: So I looked at all the costs for a strip

882
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 6: club and realize it's too expensive. Before I could get

883
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 6: money in, it's too big a risk. Remember it's too

884
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 6: much risk. I can lose three four under grand can't

885
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 6: risk that. How can I get money in? How can

886
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 6: I get money in for having hot girls without spending

887
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 6: money out?

888
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 7: So my first idea was strip club.

889
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 4: If I looked at all the costs, I was like, okay, So.

890
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 6: How why do men send Why do men spend money

891
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 6: on girls in strip club? Because the girls are beautiful?

892
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 6: They get to look at the girls, see some titties.

893
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 6: How can I do that without the club? Well, the internet,

894
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 6: if I put them on the Internet is cheap. This

895
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 6: is literally how I thought I stuck to my business principles.

896
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: Okay, it's cheap.

897
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 6: Start looking up bound discovered the webcam websites, all right,

898
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 6: So I've already got the girls. I've already got a laptop,

899
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 6: I've already got the internet bag. The day I had

900
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 6: the webcam idea, the same day I was making money.

901
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 6: I didn't spend any money, but I was making new

902
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 6: money because I refuse to allow myself to spend. Then

903
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 6: I started making new money in with the webcam because

904
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 6: I knew I had the internet. I knew I had laptops,

905
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 6: I knew I had girls. Use what you've gone. Look

906
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 6: around you, what people do you have? Does your old

907
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 6: mother need a new jobs Maybe she's at home and she's.

908
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,959
Speaker 1: Oh my god, maybe she will because your old mother.

909
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 6: If you have a cousin's nieces, nephews, if you have

910
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 6: a girlfriend who has nothing to do, use what you have.

911
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 4: The most upsetting thing about all of this is, like

912
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 4: you can see how like this people can fall for this,

913
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 4: or like the how people could be susceptible to this,

914
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 4: because obviously he's taking it to a sick, disgusting extreme.

915
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 4: But like at the core of it, Like that does

916
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 4: make sense on some level, if you have a bunch

917
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 4: of you know, old baseball cards or whatever, you can

918
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 4: start selling them at school and make a little extra money.

919
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 4: But like, he's taking it to such an extreme level

920
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 4: of exploitation and illegality that it's like insane. But I

921
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 4: could see someone who is maybe not as savvy or

922
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: is really gullible, could be influenced or fall for this

923
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. And that's what makes people like this

924
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: so fucking dangerous.

925
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what's going on here? There's two things going

926
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: on here, right, And this is always the case with him.

927
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: It's the case with like the thing the brags, the

928
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: lies he makes about his background. It's true he's pretty

929
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: good at chess. It's true his dad was very good

930
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 2: at chess. It's true that he was a decent kickboxer.

931
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: And then he kind of uses that core of truth

932
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 2: and then wraps a bunch of lies around it in

933
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: order to make this persona It is true that a

934
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: lot of people with small businesses use their families for

935
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: free labor. Right. There's like laws in the United States

936
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: where kids normally there's a lot of restrictions on how

937
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: they can work unless it's like a family owned business. Right,

938
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: if you like own a corner store, you can have

939
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 2: your sixteen year old work it and they're not subject

940
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 2: to all of the restrictions that like seven eleven would

941
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: be if they tried to hire a sixteen year old. Right, Like,

942
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 2: there's some differences there. I'm not saying, by the way

943
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: that that's good or bad. I'm just that's the way

944
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: that it works, pretty normalized. What he is saying is

945
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: like taking that idea and saying no, no, no, What you

946
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: should be doing is getting all of these people who

947
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: are emotionally invested in you and love you and using

948
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: them as free labor to make yourself rich, right exactly,

949
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: Like that's that's the class and what he's doing there

950
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: is he's taking the logic of a multi level marketing company.

951
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: All of these all of these like Avon kind of

952
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: fucking bullshit companies where they are these different like essential

953
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: oil companies that we've talked about for years on the show,

954
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: where like all rely on, Hey, your friends need this makeup,

955
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: your friends need these supplements, your friends need this shitty

956
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: low quality leggings, and you can make a lot of

957
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: money getting them to sell and getting them in your upline,

958
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: and you know, that's one of the things that's ruined

959
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: like the social Internet. Facebook has become a place where

960
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 2: like people you knew fifteen years ago get in touch,

961
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: pretending to be your friend and then try to get

962
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: you to like become a do Terra representative or some shit.

963
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 2: He's using this logic because he knows that it works.

964
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: But instead of the thing that is obviously shady and

965
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: that people have kind of more defenses built up around,

966
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: which is like, hey, try to get your family to

967
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: like buy into this business, what he's saying is like, no, no,

968
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: get him to work for you, you know, offer them

969
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: like a share of profits or something to which obviously

970
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: you know. And he goes into later detail about how

971
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 2: you can fuck them over on that. But he's he's

972
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 2: he's taking this thing that has been a part of

973
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: American grift culture for forever and he's he's twisting it

974
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: in a way that is I think kind of it is.

975
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: It is new, and this is part of like the

976
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: thing that he does that's intelligent, but it's also just

977
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 2: very transparently awful and evil.

978
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, very predatory towards.

979
00:50:53,320 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 2: Extremely predatory super and speaking of extremely predatory. I want

980
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: to dig into the business genius of Andrew Tate here

981
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: because it is worth going into kind of the inevitable

982
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: sort of conclusions you have to make based stuff of

983
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 2: what he's saying. In the example that he's given, that

984
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: fifteen year old kid has no reason to give you

985
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: the money that he's making mowing lawns, right because he's

986
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: doing all of the work to advertise and to actually mow.

987
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: You only get your percentage he doesn't mention earlier, like

988
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: one of your assets is being strong. The only ways

989
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 2: to get a percentage from him are either literally just

990
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: the threat of violence or gaslighting, making him think that

991
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: he's going to make more money than he is and

992
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 2: that you won't be making as much money as you

993
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: are from his labor. And this is true of the

994
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 2: cam girls too. His only actual advice boils down to

995
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: various forms of robbery. And this is particularly clear when

996
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 2: he starts talking about the profit making potential of Uber,

997
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: which is already exploitative. But Andrew Tate, I'm going to

998
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 2: play this next clip to you. This is him talking

999
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: about how to use Uber in your own business to

1000
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: make money via child labor.

1001
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 7: Rent a car.

1002
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 6: Find a way to rent a car with unlimited mileage

1003
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 6: per month. Tell him he's gonna do ten hours of

1004
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 6: Uber a day to train how to drive.

1005
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 4: Lie to his.

1006
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 6: Ass and say that you in the Uber app you

1007
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 6: can track and make sure he ain't breaking the speed limits,

1008
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 6: so you drive safe. Put his ass on Uber, pay

1009
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 6: for his gas and keep and give him half the

1010
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 6: money and keep half for yourself. Bang done, Set him up,

1011
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 6: Get him ready. This is shit I didn't plan. I'm

1012
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 6: just telling you things off the top of my head

1013
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 6: because this is how I think as a hustler. I

1014
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 6: don't need to sit and think. I just know there's money,

1015
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 6: and I find a way to get the money.

1016
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 7: That's how I am.

1017
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 6: So right now, you've got cousins out there who aren't

1018
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 6: driving Uber. If you can convince them to drive Uber,

1019
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 6: well then why don't they do it without you?

1020
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: Easy?

1021
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 6: You can talk some shit, make some shit up. Hey,

1022
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 6: if you got an Uber account, No, I'll set it

1023
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 6: all up for you. Because it's complicated and there's some tax.

1024
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,479
Speaker 6: I'll handle the tax. Don't pay no tax.

1025
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 7: Just fly blah blah blah. Get him an Uber, get

1026
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 7: him in cars, bang, bang bank.

1027
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: So he just assumes everyone around him is stupid.

1028
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: And stupid and trusting. He assumes that, like, hey, your

1029
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 2: cousins probably trust you lie in order to rob them,

1030
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: So make them work for you for basically nothing, and

1031
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 2: steal the money they make.

1032
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: They suggested making money off of women. He's sex trafficking.

1033
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: Old mother was thrown around and lit all children.

1034
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are his business out. Don't forget the makeup

1035
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: company that does not sell makeup. He is god. Forget

1036
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: the finest capitalistic mind of a generation.

1037
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: Maybe she's born with it and maybe it doesn't exist.

1038
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: Actually makeup. It's so funny that like people talk about

1039
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 2: how smart this guy is, and like, chard he changed

1040
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: my We'll get into like why people talk about him

1041
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 2: changing their lives and all this shit, but like for that,

1042
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, what he's offering here

1043
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: is like, hey, rob your friends and family. It's the

1044
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: same MLM thing, but he has and this is I

1045
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: think credit seems like a weird way to say it,

1046
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 2: but it is needful to acknowledge this is an innovation.

1047
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: The way in which he is telling people to rob

1048
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: their friends and family in order to try to get rich,

1049
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: and it won't work for them. Most of them. This obviously,

1050
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: I think this is what Tate does. He has his

1051
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: brother work for him and his cousin's work for him.

1052
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 2: If you are the right kind of psychopath, you can

1053
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: make money this way. It's just that even of the

1054
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: people who are interested in Hustler's University, most of them

1055
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: are not that kind of psychopath, and so they're not

1056
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: going to be successful, or they're just not a smart

1057
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: enough psychopath.

1058
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: Robert, did you say how much people were paying for

1059
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 1: this class?

1060
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 2: So these were It changed over time. At first it

1061
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: was like a per class thing. Eventually it's going to

1062
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: change to a monthly fee. And obviously actual sales figures

1063
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 2: you're never going to get. But Tate makes like in

1064
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: the millions of dollars for all of this. Yeah, off

1065
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: of the version one, and he iterates quickly. By twenty

1066
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 2: twenty one, he ditched the like courses and picking up

1067
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 2: women and running can businesses to focus on this new venture,

1068
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: like this thing that he does because this is like

1069
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: the early version of Hustler's University, this is the thing

1070
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: that works really well. And so he decides, being intelligent

1071
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: in a very specific way, he decides he's going to

1072
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 2: spin this into the main business that he's going to do,

1073
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: and he he opts to in twenty twenty one relaunch

1074
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: Hustler's University as Hustler's University two point zero and we're

1075
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 2: going to get into that.

1076
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: And it's just what a wonderful innovative title.

1077
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 4: It's so infuriating because it's like kind of brilliant, like

1078
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 4: the timing of it, because like twenty twenty twenty twenty one,

1079
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 4: a lot of people are out of work or have

1080
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 4: more free time at their day to hustle, ready to hustle,

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Speaker 4: make make some extra cash on the side, and he's

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00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 4: just like praying on that.

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Speaker 1: It's also like tis time away specifically, I want to

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Speaker 1: just emphasize on that a lot of kids are home alone,

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00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: a lot of kids are are doing remote learning school

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00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: and have access to whether that be a computer or

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00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: an iPad or some kind of digital device, and our

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00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: home alone without supervision, and you know, the the algorithms

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00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: have brought them to and dow Tate and.

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00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 4: And he got them, and.

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00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: He's he's got them, and he's he's offering them. The

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00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 2: other thing that's happening here too. You know, they're we're

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00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,919
Speaker 2: talking around this they're at home is the pandemic. They're

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00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 2: they're lonely. Also, the cost of living is skyrocketing and people,

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00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: especially in the UK. This is less the case in

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00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: the US, but in the UK, where's a lot of

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00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: his fans, there's like a financial crisis hitting right, Like

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00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: things have not been great for the last year to

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00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 2: change over over in the United Kingdom, which is why

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00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: it's so easy to uh to to buy things with

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00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 2: British pounds right now. Sorry, y'all, it just is at

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Speaker 2: the moment, and so Tate is recognizing that, Like there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of young kids who are starting to come

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00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: into the economy and realizing how hard it is to

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00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 2: just tread water, and so they're desperate for anything that

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00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 2: will give them a hope of getting out of the

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00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 2: fucking con game that is life under capitalism. And that's

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00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: that's what fucking Tate is is taking advantage of, is

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00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: these kids who are looking for a hack to get

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00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: out of the trap. And yeah, we're going to talk

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00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: about what he does next and how well it fucking works,

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Speaker 2: and spoilers will have an appearance from Alex Jones in

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Speaker 2: Part four, the final part of this glorious series. But first,

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Speaker 2: Ian Sophie, y'all, y'all got stuffs to plugss.

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Speaker 1: Ian, what do you have to plug anything?

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00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ian h I.

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Speaker 4: Would say, uh, just you know, check out Internet Hate Machine.

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00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,479
Speaker 4: It's one of the other.

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Speaker 2: More like Internet Tate Machine. Sorry, that's not right at all.

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Speaker 4: That's not what the show is about.

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00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: No, it's not.

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00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 4: That's another cools On media show that I work on.

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Speaker 4: It's a great show with Bridget Todd, really relevant and

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Speaker 4: interesting topic about the healthscape that is social media right now.

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Speaker 4: And I would also just say plug just being kind

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00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 4: to others, you know, being a nice, respectful person in

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00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 4: this world. It's life is already hard enough. It's free

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Speaker 4: to not be an asshole. So i'd say that.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you say it's free to not be an asshole,

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00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 2: But if you consider the fact that by not putting

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00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: your mom and your child cousins to work, you're leaving

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00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: money on the table, it actually can be extremely expensive

1133
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: not to be an asshole. You can hear more on

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Speaker 2: my nine hours series Robert committing crimes using your family

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Speaker 2: members as Patsy's University, I teach you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I want to plug. Two books that are available

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Speaker 1: for pre order right now, the first of which is

1138
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus's book about hotdogs called raw Dog. It is

1139
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: available for pre order. Go to her go to her

1140
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: social meds for all that info. And also our very

1141
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: own Mercurt Kiljoy of Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff,

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00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: which Ian also edits has a book available for pre

1143
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 1: sale also called Escape from Inzell Island. And I would

1144
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: like to plug those two books. Check out both of

1145
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: their social meds to get info on that bold and.

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Speaker 2: Heroic of you, Sophie, and I want to plug my

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00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 2: new business course, Crime Guy University, where I teach you

1148
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 2: how to take You got a mom who's out of work,

1149
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: You got some young cousins. Look, you can monetize that

1150
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 2: shit through the simple, legal, easy method of getting them

1151
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: to sell heroin for you.

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00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: You know what, you know what's really about this business though, Robert,

1153
00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: then I get eighty percent.

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01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 2: Sophie does get eighty percent, which is why you should

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01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 2: listen to Sophie's sixteen hour course. That's card literally starting

1156
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Speaker 2: a cartel, so that this is sponsored by our friends

1157
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 2: at the Seamaloa Cartels. That's what we called Sophie.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, We'll be back bye, We'll be back unfortunately, bye,

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Speaker 5: welcome back to Behind the Bastards, the podcast that I

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Speaker 5: just tried to introduce badly.

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Speaker 2: Uh, and I then completely forgot to start recording. So

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm great, I'm so good.

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Speaker 1: Uh we do we have a guest? What's the name

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01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: of the show. What's happening?

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01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, Sophie, do we have a guest?

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01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: Who?

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Speaker 2: Who are we?

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01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 8: What do we do?

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Speaker 2: Where are we?

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Speaker 1: This is Behind the Bastard. You're Robert Evans. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: your overlord, Sophie Lichterman. And our guest is Ian Johnson,

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Speaker 1: our wonderful player.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Ian, Hey, Sophie, Ian Johnson, incredible editor, Sophie podcast

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Speaker 2: and feuror.

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Speaker 1: The time he's done that, and it's cringey every time.

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Speaker 2: Be the last note will not.

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: You know, we're talking about Andrew Emerie Tate and boy

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01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: howdy are we talking about Andrew Marie Tate. We just

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01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 2: finished talking about Hustler's University. Uh, and we're about to

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01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: get into Hustler's University two point zero because Andrew understands

1182
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: branding if nothing else. But before we get into that,

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01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk a little bit, so obviously, while

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01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 2: this is going on while he's launching this series of

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01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 2: online classes and deliberately courting controversy online by saying like

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01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: fucked up shit about women to go viral. He's also

1187
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 2: constantly guesting on every right wing podcast that will have him,

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01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 2: and because of the world is the way it is,

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Speaker 2: info Wars is the first place he's able to really

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Speaker 2: get some traction, and he's going to abandon them as

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Speaker 2: soon as he can, like everybody who gets their start

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Speaker 2: on info Wars, because it's a dead end. You want

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Speaker 2: to escape Info Wars and get on. He's going to

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01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: eventually be interviewed by like fucking Pierce Morgan and shit,

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01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 2: but at first he's reliant upon them. And Alex Jones

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01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 2: sees the potential in this guy and decides, I want

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Speaker 2: to try and make Andrew a part of my business,

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Speaker 2: which is the thing that Alex does regularly. And it

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Speaker 2: leads us to this beautiful ad for the supplement line

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Speaker 2: that Alex made branded based on Andrew Tate. So here's

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Speaker 2: an ad for Andrew Tait branded Info Wars supplements. Oh boy,

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01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 2: oh this is this is a real treat for everyone.

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Speaker 7: Oh boy, to get a job, the man, to get

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Speaker 7: a job.

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Speaker 6: They inflate the currency so nobody can exist any other

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01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 6: way because it's too expensive. The parents are out working

1207
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 6: all day the school and the internet and the matrix

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01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 6: raise your children.

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01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 2: Your children go to school all.

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Speaker 6: Day and be told things that you may not want

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Speaker 6: them to learn. Then they sit on the Internet and

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01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 6: read things and watch things you may not want them

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01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 6: to watch. You talk to them for ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day they go to bed.

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Speaker 6: You're fighting with your ten minutes against endless hours of

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01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 6: the most entertaining programming or the most forceful programming in

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Speaker 6: School's forceful on the internet. It's entertaining convincing them of

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Speaker 6: ideas that you perhaps don't agree with. I've seen it

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Speaker 6: myself on YouTube. I've seen a guy in America driving

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Speaker 6: his car and his kids were in the back seat

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Speaker 6: and he was arguing with them about an issue, and

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Speaker 6: they was like, where did you hear that school? He's like,

1223
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Speaker 6: why did the school tell you that that's not true?

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Speaker 6: And his own children are arguing with him because they

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Speaker 6: learned to in school. Have you ever tried to take

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01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 6: your children out of school? You'll get fined, you get

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Speaker 6: in trouble. No, your kids have to go to school.

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Speaker 6: You have to give your kids away to the school.

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Speaker 6: If you don't give your kids away to the brainwashing,

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Speaker 6: you'll get in trouble. As an all star fighter businessman,

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Speaker 6: motivational speak.

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Speaker 9: Switches incredible, it is it is, that is like a

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01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 9: paling here we go, this is so away, I thought,

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Speaker 9: and something up.

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Speaker 2: No, just us in with like this mix of Christian

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01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 2: conservative fear mongering and like divorce dad fear mongering. Oh

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01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 2: it's perfect, it's perfect. And then we get Alex let's go.

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Speaker 8: Speaker and philanthropist Andrew Tate has truly earned the title

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Speaker 8: of top G. But there's another title Andrew Tait holds

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01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 8: that has enraged the globalist. He is consecutively the most

1241
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 8: googled man in the world in the last two years,

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Speaker 8: and that's because his message is about human and specifically

1243
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 8: male empowerment. Now Andrew Tate is taking his fight to

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01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 8: empower and supercharge men to the next level introducing top

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Speaker 8: G Supplements. We are pround to androduce and sponsor the

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Speaker 8: top G line of supplements by Andrew Tait and his crew.

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Speaker 8: Now you have the chance to benefit in body, mind,

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Speaker 8: and soul with the same supplements that Andrew Tate takes himself.

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Speaker 8: Learn more about these amazing products at Andrew Tatepower dot

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Speaker 8: com andrew tatepower dot Com and discover the power of

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Speaker 8: Andrew Tate's new supplements, the highest quality on the market.

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Speaker 6: I think there's a whole bunch of men in the

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01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 6: world who understands my value. And if men grow up

1254
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Speaker 6: to be like me, you're gonna have a whole bunch

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Speaker 6: of people with no criminal record, dedicated athletes.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's probably yeah, no criminal record.

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Speaker 1: Oh, buddy jump spares in that video, so first one

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Speaker 1: music amazing.

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01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 2: It's a.

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01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: Third of all Jake Paul's face.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like.

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Speaker 4: Did you see the names of the supplements on.

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Speaker 2: The yah, let's go through that. That's probably that's that's

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Speaker 2: probably it was.

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Speaker 4: It was they were like those names from that Like

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Speaker 4: other video we watched in the last episode was like

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Speaker 4: sheer per per. I don't even know those words, like sheer, predacity, orpacity, yeah, perspecacity,

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Speaker 4: those are like the names of the supplements.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Because he's trying to do like a Muhammad Ali thing, right,

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01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 2: Like Muhammad Ali would always describe himself and he's very

1271
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: flurid off in like rhyming terms. But Muhammad Ali also

1272
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 2: could back up every single thing he said about himself,

1273
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 2: which mister Tait cannot. But it also doesn't matter because

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01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,439
Speaker 2: it's all about it's all about making making the image work.

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01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 2: So by twenty twenty one, Andrew Tate's image is working

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01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 2: very well. He has become one of the most popular

1277
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 2: accounts on Twitter, on Instagram, He's got a pretty prominent YouTube.

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01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: He is huge on TikTok. You know, we're talking like

1279
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 2: millions and millions of followers, and combine several billion impressions

1280
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 2: just in like the top g term on TikTok and shit.

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01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: And so he launches Hustler's University two point zero. So

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01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: he had been selling a bunch of different classes. He

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Speaker 2: pairs that down and he focuses just on money making schemes.

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Speaker 2: And the gist is this, For about fifty dollars a month,

1285
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 2: you get the CLA classes for free, and you also

1286
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: get let into this discord.

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01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: Sorry, for fifty dollars a month, you get the classes

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Speaker 1: for free. So but what about the fifty dollars a month.

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01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 2: Well, sorry, you don't get the classes for free. For

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Speaker 2: fifty dollars a month, you get access to the classes

1291
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 2: and to a series of Discord rooms. Discord is like

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01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 2: a chat service. You can do voice and text chat.

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01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 2: And basically what he's what he is selling is I've

1294
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 2: built this community of people who have gotten rich using

1295
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 2: my tactics, and if you pay this monthly fee, then

1296
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: you'll get to hang out with us and they will

1297
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 2: coach you on how to make money and you can

1298
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: watch all of our videos on how to make money too.

1299
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 4: And damn it, that's like kind of brilliant on two levels.

1300
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 4: And I hate him for it because a subscription model

1301
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 4: is just passive income coming in every month if as

1302
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 4: long as you can maintain that subscriber base. And now

1303
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 4: he has other people doing the work for him, other

1304
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 4: community doing the teachings he doesn't even.

1305
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 2: Have to do, and the schemes that he's because he has,

1306
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 2: Like you get to pick like one of three or

1307
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 2: four different money making paths to go down when you

1308
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: join Hustler's University. It's a little like a video games, yeah,

1309
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 2: but and they're all kind of boring. Basically, you can

1310
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 2: choose to either learn how to day trade like do

1311
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 2: stock trading, or learn how to sell cryptocurrency, or learn

1312
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 2: how to run like a copywriting mill where you're basically

1313
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: paying people pennies to write like terrible, shitty fake books

1314
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 2: to take advantage of Amazon's algorithm and trick people into

1315
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 2: paying like two dollars for There's also a lot of

1316
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: Amazon affiliate shit. A bunch of it involves taking advantage

1317
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: of like the ways that Amazon works, And it's one

1318
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 2: of those things. If you watch YouTube and you don't

1319
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 2: have YouTube read or whatever the fuck YouTube calls their

1320
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 2: subscription service, which I don't because I'm lazy, you get

1321
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 2: all these like shady ads for people telling you like

1322
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna teach you how to make a bunch of

1323
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 2: money off of YouTube, or I'm off of Amazon, Like

1324
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 2: did you know that you could get rich, you know,

1325
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 2: creating Amazon affiliate like so with Audible or whatever. That's

1326
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 2: all he's doing. But instead of selling it as like

1327
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 2: this shady video just on how to make money using Amazon,

1328
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 2: he's giving you access to this community of distinguished men

1329
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 2: who all smoke cigars and post pictures of how much

1330
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 2: money they're making. And because all these other guys, again,

1331
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 2: it's taking a lot of these MLM tactics where you're

1332
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: surrounding yourselves in this community of other men who are

1333
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 2: going to be bragging constantly that they're making money. So

1334
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 2: you feel like, if I'm not making money, it's not

1335
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 2: because this video is bullshit. It's because I'm not hustling

1336
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 2: hard enough. I'm not taking advantage of all of the

1337
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 2: great advice that I've gotten. It's a pretty clever thing

1338
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 2: to do, and he does encourage his people like post

1339
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 2: your sales, post what you're making this month, and all

1340
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 2: of that's kind of gamed, and a lot of it's

1341
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 2: very scammy, and the same way that like a lot

1342
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 2: of MLM stuff is where it's like, yeah, just post

1343
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 2: your raw sales, don't tell people what your nett is,

1344
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 2: don't tell people how much money you had to put

1345
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 2: into the business to make it work. All that good

1346
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 2: stuff Tate again, is barely present on the actual Hustlers

1347
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 2: University discord. But what he does do is when he

1348
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 2: launches this new version of the service, he spins up

1349
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 2: his media appearances and like all these different right wing

1350
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 2: podcasts and hustler culture podcasts to push the store, and

1351
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: he also alters his branding. At this point, earlier, he'd

1352
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: kind of been indistinguishable from he'd been kind of at

1353
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 2: the nexus of pickup artist and al right, political weirdo,

1354
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 2: but he increasingly pivots to positioning himself as kind of

1355
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 2: like a jacked and rich Jordan Peterson. And I want

1356
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 2: to play you a video that gives you an example

1357
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 2: of that.

1358
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 6: Let's quickly talk about like the red pill the day

1359
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 6: game guys, and this is why they're wrong, and this

1360
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 6: is what they don't understand.

1361
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 7: Listen to me, and I'll teach you how.

1362
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 6: To get girls on tender and I'll teach you how

1363
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 6: to go out and get girls in the mall all day.

1364
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 6: If you are walking around the mall all day or

1365
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 6: you're tendering all day, you are giving out attention. You're

1366
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 6: giving out more than you'll ever get back because you're

1367
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 6: a man. You're giving attention out and you don't get

1368
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 6: enough back. So that's an energy deficit. And the zapps

1369
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 6: you love your powers before you know you're gonna end

1370
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 6: up one of them little red pill doors sitting there.

1371
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 7: The man is you're of an alpha bro.

1372
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 4: You're five foot seven. You're not fucking alpha. How are

1373
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 4: you an alpha?

1374
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 7: You're like five foot at alpha.

1375
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,560
Speaker 6: Wa walk into a fucking room of basketball players multimillionaire

1376
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 6: six foot five.

1377
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 7: And talk about how alpha you are because of your YouTube.

1378
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 6: Teen fucking these guys, even a dream Alpha has always,

1379
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 6: for the longest period of human time, meant capability for violence.

1380
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 6: That's what Alipha has always meant. Apex preadit a little

1381
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 6: short dude, All right, of course you are. Let's let's

1382
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 6: just let's not even let's meet, and let's not even talk.

1383
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 6: Let's meet and let's just measure our heights. Let's just

1384
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 6: take a picture side by side of me and you,

1385
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 6: and let's talk about al alpha you are. Afterwards, doors

1386
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 6: so they're giving out energy, they don't get energy back.

1387
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 2: The correct way to get pussy like I have is to.

1388
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 6: Absorb the energy from everyone in the room and then

1389
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 6: expel it in a fireball, a lightning strike of power

1390
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 6: and prowess.

1391
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 7: So all the bitches want to fuck you, and they

1392
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 7: pray you come and say hello. That's how you get bitches.

1393
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 7: You don't go and beg them and give energy away.

1394
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 6: No, you steal the energy from every other male and

1395
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 6: then you expel it in a ball of fucking lightning.

1396
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 4: What's happening behind him sounds like he's been watching a

1397
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 4: lot of dragon.

1398
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 2: Yah, Yeah, Like what the hell is.

1399
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: He talking about?

1400
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 2: Behind someone's cleaning his house?

1401
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: But why is she so close to him?

1402
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 2: Because he likes to show you that, Like that's a

1403
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: big part of his He does this in all of

1404
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 2: his like a lot of his videos. He'll make sure

1405
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: that like his cleaning lady or one of his camgirls

1406
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 2: is like doing a task behind him to like make

1407
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 2: the point that he's got all these women working for him, right,

1408
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 2: Like that's that's a huge part of the tap myth.

1409
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 2: But what he's doing here in this video is interesting

1410
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 2: to me. He's he's deliberately, he's he's he's positioning himself

1411
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 2: as the opposite of both these whiny men's rights activist

1412
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 2: guys and of the standard pick up artist crew. And

1413
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 2: he's all this talk about height, let's talk about alphas.

1414
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 2: He is playing two in cells because like he knows

1415
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 2: that very young men, mostly in their late teens, who

1416
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,600
Speaker 2: are like angry about the fact that girls don't like

1417
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 2: them and angry about the fact that like they're there,

1418
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 2: they don't have all of the money and success they

1419
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 2: think that they're owed that Like that's his that's his business, right,

1420
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 2: that's his fucking bread.

1421
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 1: And butter, and is he why is he choosing to

1422
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: like alienate all the short people.

1423
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 2: He's not, He's not. This is actually a two part

1424
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: con And what he's doing here is he's getting them.

1425
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 4: So I was gonna say, it's like kind of sounds

1426
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,879
Speaker 4: like he's like dunking on exactly who he like is targeting.

1427
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 4: But I think it's probably like a little reverse.

1428
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 2: He is doing, yes, some some negging and stuff right

1429
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,560
Speaker 2: to get the to get these guys riled up. But

1430
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: he's also so if you remember back, if I don't

1431
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 2: know any of you, read Elliot Rodgers manifesto Eliot Roger

1432
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 2: being the first in cell mass shooter. He talks a lot,

1433
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 2: and he, like the entire in cell community, was formed

1434
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: initially as reaction to pick up artistry, right, all of

1435
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: these guys who feel like there's something inherently wrong with

1436
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 2: their bodies that makes it impossible for them to pick

1437
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 2: up women in an unfair way, or that feminism has

1438
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 2: ruined it. Roger was obsessed that because he wasn't like

1439
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 2: tall enough or white enough, right, that he was never

1440
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 2: going to get a girl. They initially when they were

1441
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: like younger, fell into pick up artistry and when that

1442
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 2: didn't work because none of it works very well, they

1443
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 2: became violent, psychopath like, they became violent right, Like they

1444
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: decided like not only was the pick up artistry a

1445
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: con but all of society deserved to pay for the

1446
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 2: fact that they got conned by pickup artists. Andrew recognizes this,

1447
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 2: and so the first thing he's doing is he is

1448
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 2: going after the pick up artists, right, and he's going

1449
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: after it in a way that's going to get all

1450
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: these inceel dudes like agitated, but is also going to

1451
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 2: play to the fact that they realize they're being conned

1452
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 2: by these people. And I think that's an interesting choice.

1453
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 2: And the other thing that he's doing, he starts by

1454
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 2: talking about how like you're not alpha if you're not

1455
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,560
Speaker 2: tall enough, right, that all, but he's also framing it

1456
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 2: as like these pickup artists aren't real alphas because they're

1457
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 2: not big. And it sounds at first like he's kind

1458
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 2: of going into this it's hopeless if you're not tall,

1459
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 2: you'll never get a woman. That's actually not the claim

1460
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 2: that he's making. I'm going to play you another clip

1461
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 2: that's kind of an extension of his message that shows

1462
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 2: how he's talking to these insell folks. After he gets

1463
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 2: through with the kind of slamming the uh slamming the

1464
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 2: pickup artist crew, and the message that he has for

1465
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 2: the actual people being taken advantage of by the pickup

1466
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 2: artist community is kind of liberatory in a weird way.

1467
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 6: Now I have jenetic gifts, I understand you do not have,

1468
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 6: but I've also worked on my jenay gis.

1469
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 2: I didn't just have them.

1470
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 4: You know, I worked.

1471
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 7: But even if you, if you did the work I did,

1472
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,759
Speaker 7: you'd still be tap one percent, even without the genetics,

1473
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 7: because you have no idea how hard I've worked.

1474
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 6: But the point is, if I teach you how to

1475
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,759
Speaker 6: absorb energy from everyone else around you, then you instantly

1476
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 6: become the most powerful person in the room. So there's

1477
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 6: not only so much about being big and being strong

1478
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 6: and having a lambo. It's about absorbing energy and attention.

1479
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 6: So you people do not understand. And ninety nine percent

1480
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 6: of the things people teach you, they teach you how.

1481
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 2: To expel energy.

1482
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 6: You can expel and lose huge amounts of energy chasing

1483
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 6: bitches and trying to make money. You don't get enough back.

1484
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 6: Whereas if you can flip the script, then the whole

1485
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 6: world changes.

1486
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: This is what you need to understand, so that right there,

1487
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: he's insufferable? Is it that?

1488
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: That's this is worth really drilling into and paying attention to,

1489
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 2: because this is an extremely appealing message to the kind

1490
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 2: of young men who are like on the edge of

1491
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 2: where Elliott Roger was right, These children and it are

1492
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 2: these guys they're starting out in the world. Mostly we're

1493
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 2: talking young white teenagers, though not exclusively, but like men,

1494
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 2: and it's hard out there. Obviously, it is still easier

1495
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 2: to be a man or a white man than it

1496
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 2: is to be basically anything else, but it's not as

1497
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,560
Speaker 2: much easier as it used to, right, And some of

1498
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 2: that's because things are less unfair than they used to

1499
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 2: be in some regards, and some of it's just because

1500
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 2: the economy's gotten worse. The world has gotten harder a

1501
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 2: number of things. There's a lot of shit's gotten uglier.

1502
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 2: Capitalism has kind of gotten more undeniably brutal, even to

1503
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 2: the chunk of people who were initially being lifted up

1504
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 2: by it. And so these kids get out there and

1505
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 2: shit's not as easy. They're not getting handed the things

1506
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 2: that they're supposed to get handed, and a lot of

1507
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 2: them turn nihilistic, and the radical right has always targeted

1508
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: men in this age group and socioeconomic group. And these

1509
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 2: are again young people who recognize and some of what

1510
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 2: they're recognizing, like with Robert Blise Folks is fair. There's

1511
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 2: a degree a lot of atomization in our society. It

1512
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,919
Speaker 2: is not encouraged for men to have like intimate friendships

1513
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 2: with other men. It's deeply lonely, it's deeply competitive in

1514
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 2: a way that's really vicious. And these people are suffering,

1515
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 2: and the Right always has has made a lot of

1516
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 2: their early recruitments by kind of coming in and finding

1517
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 2: these men trying to make sense of their suffering and

1518
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 2: offering them an answer. But while the kind of in

1519
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 2: cell youth culture that has been deeply influential online is

1520
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 2: super nihilistic, Tait is reaching out to these people and

1521
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 2: he's preaching to these awkward, nerdy kids with social anxiety,

1522
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 2: but he's offering them a sense of hope where he's like, yeah,

1523
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 2: you're not going to be like me because you're not

1524
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 2: six three, if you're like five to seven, but if

1525
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 2: you put in the work I've put in, you can

1526
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 2: still be in that top one percent, right, it's about

1527
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 2: taking and absorbing energy. And I have these tactics. Your

1528
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 2: genetics are not the only thing that matters. Right, You

1529
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 2: can actually overcome that with enough work and find a

1530
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 2: way to make money and get you know, women, right,

1531
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 2: Like that is actually the pitch that he's making. And

1532
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 2: for the people who are kind of adjacent to these

1533
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 2: in cell communities, that's a more optimistic pitch than they've

1534
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 2: been getting from a lot of people. Again, if you

1535
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: spend a lot of time on some of these in

1536
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 2: cell boards, it's dude's obsessing with like, oh, because of

1537
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 2: the my chin is only this wide and not this wide,

1538
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 2: so it's physically impossible for a woman to love me,

1539
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 2: or like I have this like epicanthic eyefold or whatever,

1540
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 2: Like my nose is this size, and so I will

1541
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,919
Speaker 2: never have sex and like this is a biological reality.

1542
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 2: And what Tait's actually saying is the people telling you

1543
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 2: this are full of shit. But also like, I have

1544
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 2: a tactic for how you can and it just involves

1545
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 2: hard work. It doesn't matter that you don't have these

1546
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 2: genetic gifts. You actually can overcome that. And this is

1547
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 2: when you start talking about Tait on any kind of

1548
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 2: open forum. Right, You're going to get people coming in

1549
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 2: and saying some version of He's the only reason I'm alive.

1550
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 2: He kept me from killing I sell for like I

1551
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 2: think he's talking to And this is because as toxic

1552
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 2: as he is, finding Andrew Tait, if you are one

1553
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 2: of these young men who might have gone Elliott Roger

1554
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 2: might be better for you than like falling down the

1555
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 2: rabbit hole you would have fallen down before him. That's

1556
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: not a necessarily an inaccurate statement.

1557
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 1: Right, he tricks them into having home.

1558
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And again the point I'm making here, I

1559
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 2: am not saying that he is a net good. He's

1560
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 2: absolutely not. But when people people who are specifically look

1561
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 2: like we're kind of in danger of falling into this

1562
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 2: in cell rabbit hole, if they find Tait, that might

1563
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:40,640
Speaker 2: be better for them than the road they would have

1564
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 2: gone down. Now that's a small subset of the folks

1565
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 2: who are actually encountering his stuff. But when people make

1566
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 2: that point, it's not there's not nothing there, and it's

1567
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 2: not because Tate cares about saving kids. It's because this

1568
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 2: is how to get money from them, right exactly.

1569
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 4: And it just speaks to again how exploited of the

1570
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 4: whole thing is because you're already you're going after these

1571
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,560
Speaker 4: people who are already very clearly vulnerable and at a

1572
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 4: low point, and you're just praying on that and taking

1573
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 4: advantage of it. And it's just like, yeah, it's just disgusting.

1574
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 2: It's all disgusting. But I also think it's really worth

1575
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 2: understanding the degree to which he understands the online ecosystem.

1576
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: He's feeding it, right, and that's why telling them that,

1577
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, their greatest insecurities don't matter as long as

1578
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: they're you know, they try to be like him and

1579
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 1: be bilt off Man.

1580
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, be a top g Yeah. But one of one

1581
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 2: of his big lines is you don't have to be

1582
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 2: handsome if you're scary why, which he means that like

1583
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 2: ugly dudes can get women if they're jacked, which is

1584
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 2: again that's very bad. Although you could argue it's better

1585
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 2: than you should drive a car into a crowd because

1586
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 2: you'll never find love, right, So this is why people

1587
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 2: make that argument. It's not It doesn't mean that he's

1588
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 2: a net force for good because spoiler, he is not.

1589
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 2: He's a terrible person and his own overall impact is

1590
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 2: a ton of harm. But on this specific community, there

1591
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 2: is an argument to be made, and that's where that

1592
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: argument comes from, right. Yeah, And again the idea that

1593
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 2: like he shouldn't be deplatformed because he's gonna save all

1594
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 2: these in cells is nonsense. It's just not coming out

1595
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 2: of nowhere, right, because that is where his money comes from. Right,

1596
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 2: That's the group of people he's decided to take advantage of.

1597
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 2: And I do think in the long run he might

1598
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 2: wind up having just as much of a negative effect

1599
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 2: on these kids as the pickup artist's hat on Elliott Roger.

1600
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 2: It just hasn't been going on that long because eventually

1601
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 2: they're going to see none of what he says works, right, Like,

1602
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 2: in the long run, it's not going to work. It's

1603
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 2: just in the short term less nihilistic than drive your

1604
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 2: car into a crowd, although it might still end in

1605
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 2: the same place. But you know who won't tell kids

1606
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 2: to oh boys. So if he just rolled ads, ah,

1607
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 2: we are back. So Tait is kind of while a

1608
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 2: lot of his pitch is laser targeted at young men

1609
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 2: going down that specific in cell rabbit hole, once he

1610
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 2: kind of captures that demographic again, he's an innovator. He

1611
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: starts to broaden his appeal as fast as he can

1612
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 2: because he wants to reach as many vulnerable young men

1613
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 2: as he possibly can. And he is a cognizant person

1614
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 2: of the time that he's in. He recognizes there's a

1615
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,759
Speaker 2: lot of movement and there's a lot of cultural momentum

1616
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:34,560
Speaker 2: behind certain left wing ideas, including criticisms of capitalism. I

1617
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 2: actually think people don't recognize enough how superficially critical of

1618
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 2: capitalism Andrew Taitus and how much of his appeal comes

1619
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 2: from that. And to kind of exhibit that, I want

1620
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 2: to play a clip from him on the Fresh and

1621
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 2: Fit podcast, which he is sitting in between like eight

1622
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 2: seven or eight women who look like they're all Instagram

1623
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 2: kind of done up in influencer type people.

1624
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's bullshit, that slave mind garbage feminists, racist garbage,

1625
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 6: crap that's been put in your brain that you need

1626
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 6: to resist. Absolutely nothing to do with Eurocentric's bullshit.

1627
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 4: It's garbage.

1628
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 7: You need to resist that kind of shit. I'm telling

1629
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 7: you the problems with.

1630
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 6: The world today are very, very specific, and I state

1631
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 6: this without patronizing you.

1632
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 7: I don't want to patronize you. I'm an old man.

1633
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 7: I've been around the block.

1634
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 6: The problems in the world today exist because the people

1635
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 6: who are in charge of the world have done a

1636
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 6: very very clever thing. They've specifically designed the world in

1637
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 6: which a way that the people at the bottom, because

1638
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 6: we're all at the bottom, even me with all my millions, right,

1639
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 6: the people at the bottom are so busy fighting with

1640
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 6: each other that we never look up and realize we're

1641
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 6: getting fucked. And the reason they do that the blacks

1642
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 6: hate the whites, Republicans take the Democrats, the men hate

1643
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 6: the women. Eurocentric He said this, you don't have pay

1644
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 6: gap blah blah blah. It's all slave mind shit to

1645
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 6: keep us all fighting amongst each other. Do you think

1646
01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:00,040
Speaker 6: when a billionaire who's black meets a billionaire who.

1647
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 7: White, they talk about race.

1648
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 6: No, you think a white You think a female billionaire

1649
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 6: a male billionaire meet they start talking about eurocentricism, feminist

1650
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 6: fucking garbage.

1651
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 7: No, no, stop buying into that ship. It's a fucking trick.

1652
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 7: It's a fucking lie, all of it. Throw it away.

1653
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 2: Throw it the fuck away.

1654
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 7: If you want to be attractive as a female, you

1655
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 7: know what you need to do.

1656
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 4: You need to go to the gym.

1657
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 7: Just because Myron said it just because Myron said it.

1658
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 7: You need to be smart enough.

1659
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 6: You need to be smart enough to not let yourself

1660
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 6: get triggered by the fact that he just said something

1661
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 6: you're not used to hearing.

1662
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 1: That's all it is.

1663
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 4: That's all it is.

1664
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,719
Speaker 1: So every second of that it is, it is miserable.

1665
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 2: But he's again, that is a superficial kind of class

1666
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,600
Speaker 2: analysis right where he's talking about billionaires all have solidarity

1667
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 2: with each other. Uh, we're all we're all poor. And

1668
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 2: he's again he's lying about this. He is he is,

1669
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 2: he's a multi millionaire, possibly multi hundreds of millions of dollars.

1670
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 2: But you see what he's doing. He recognizes everyone hates

1671
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 2: these billionaires everyone. You cannot ignore inequality and the role

1672
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 2: that it has on Like why all these young men

1673
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 2: who are vulnerable to my message, you're suffering? So I

1674
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 2: have to fucking play to that. Right, and again he

1675
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 2: is offering this kind of he starts with this thing

1676
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 2: that has elements of left wing analysis to it, elements

1677
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 2: of like, you know, capitalism is a con game. The

1678
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: rich are a class, and they have solidarity with each other,

1679
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 2: and they're trying to keep you guys fighting so that

1680
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 2: you don't organize against them. There's pieces of left wing

1681
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 2: analysis there. But then Tait's solution is not dismantled the system.

1682
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 2: It's not go after these guys. It's treat it like

1683
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 2: a trap you escape by getting rich and jacked. Right,

1684
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 2: that's the way that that's the way it's to say. Again,

1685
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 2: look back to Robert Bli, where he's he's very accurately stating,

1686
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 2: here are some fucked up things capitalism is doing the men.

1687
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 2: Here are ways in which capitalism and the patriarchy is

1688
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 2: harming men. The solution is for men to like go

1689
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 2: out into the woods and play drums and learned how

1690
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 2: to hunt and stuff. Not the solution is for men

1691
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:12,440
Speaker 2: and women to organize to make a more just society

1692
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 2: that doesn't harm us in these ways. It takes doing

1693
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:20,520
Speaker 2: a version of the same thing. Like Bli, he's diagnosing

1694
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 2: parts of the problem, and then the thing he's selling

1695
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 2: you is, here's how you personally can get out of

1696
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 2: it by doing this thing that feeds money to me.

1697
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: Right, he's insufferable, He's insufferable, but it works.

1698
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And obviously other people are pushing pieces of this

1699
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:42,919
Speaker 2: message on young folks. But his presentation is the most polished.

1700
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 2: He is a good speaker, and I don't mean that

1701
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 2: in the you should like the way he speaks. I

1702
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 2: mean it. And he's effective at speaking and getting his

1703
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 2: message across.

1704
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 1: He always the most obnoxious in the room. He's the

1705
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: lads in the room, and you make sure of that

1706
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 1: he does.

1707
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 2: And if you watch him with these these young men,

1708
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: like these other male influencers on their podcasts, he's so

1709
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 2: good at sucking energy from them, like he actually does

1710
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 2: know how to do that. He's very good at talk,

1711
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 2: not just not even talking over them, but at making

1712
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,640
Speaker 2: the focus of the conversation whatever he wants it to

1713
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:22,640
Speaker 2: be and making himself the person that people are focusing on.

1714
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 2: That's the thing he knows how to do.

1715
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 1: Uh.

1716
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 2: And it's it's it's, it's yeah. And I think probably

1717
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 2: the smartest thing he's done in this whole process is

1718
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 2: co opt the Matrix movies in his messaging. And that

1719
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 2: sounds very silly. The thing that Tate does is he

1720
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 2: basically he positions the matrix is the normal world where

1721
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 2: you like work for some company forty or whatever hours

1722
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 2: a week just to scrape by and if you're lucky,

1723
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 2: maybe buy a house someday. And the thing that Andrew

1724
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 2: tells people is that, like, this is what you have

1725
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 2: to break out of, right, not not that like you

1726
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,560
Speaker 2: have to make a more equable system, but you have

1727
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 2: to escape the matrix like Neo does. And it's just

1728
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 2: about freeing yourself.

1729
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 4: And yeah, for everybody else, it's just about getting yourself here.

1730
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1731
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 2: And once he gets kids to accept that idea, the

1732
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 2: thing he tells them that they need to drop out

1733
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 2: of school and spend the money they would spend on

1734
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 2: college on Hustler's university. That is, that is a massive

1735
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 2: part of his pitch. And again it's it's not hard

1736
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 2: to see why this stuff is appealing to a lot

1737
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 2: of young kids. It's married to some of the worst

1738
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 2: misogyny imaginable too.

1739
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 8: Though.

1740
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 2: He tells young men that they should not learn how

1741
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 2: to cook. That's a waste of time. They should find

1742
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 2: a woman to cook for them. They should focus on

1743
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 2: making money. Women shouldn't be allowed to leave the house,

1744
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 2: they shouldn't have friends of their own. This is all

1745
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 2: stuff that Tate preaches to alongside the stuff that's less

1746
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 2: fucked up in Tate's ideology, women being able to have

1747
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 2: their own careers, and lives is also part of the matrix.

1748
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 1: Right.

1749
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 2: He starts from this reasonable position capitalism is kind of

1750
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 2: a con job, and then he pivots to telling kids

1751
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 2: that the real con is anything that limits the ability

1752
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 2: of young men to do whatever they want in any way.

1753
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 2: And I want to play you now a video that

1754
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 2: he made to advertise Hustler's University two point zero, because it's.

1755
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 7: Something else you cannot stop, you cannot give up.

1756
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,600
Speaker 6: You're in the most fantastic place on the planet for

1757
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 6: making money, Hustle's University, and the only person who can ruin.

1758
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 1: That is you.

1759
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 7: Most of you are happy to be losers part time.

1760
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 7: You want to escape. That's why you joined.

1761
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 6: You don't want to be a loser anymore. But then

1762
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:28,680
Speaker 6: that new video game comes out. I'll just play the

1763
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:30,759
Speaker 6: video game. I'll just be a loser for two more weeks.

1764
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 7: Then I'll get back to trying to escape the matrix.

1765
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 6: It doesn't work that way because you jump it out

1766
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,640
Speaker 6: of complacency from I'm happy to be a loser and

1767
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 6: do loser things to I can't be a loser anymore.

1768
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 6: When you're jumping it out, you never get momentum. You

1769
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 6: cannot quit. You cannot give up. You need that momentum

1770
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 6: to break free. When a rocket is flying out towards

1771
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:49,640
Speaker 6: the moon, to escape the atmosphere.

1772
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 7: It doesn't fucking pause halfway up the sky, does it. No,

1773
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 7: it keeps going.

1774
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 6: Every single second you're not in Hustle's University, there are

1775
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:01,600
Speaker 6: things happening, conversations happening that you're not watching. Information that

1776
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 6: could be the one little piece of information you need

1777
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,719
Speaker 6: to break out. It could be that one little sentence

1778
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 6: that changes everything. You're in Hustle's University and you're gonna

1779
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 6: make money, but it ain't easy. It ain't gonna be

1780
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 6: given to you on a plate. You're gonna have to work.

1781
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 6: You're in competition with the entire world. Everyone wants to escape.

1782
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 7: You cannot be lazy.

1783
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 2: Okay, that's probably enough.

1784
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 1: The filming on this is so weird, Like he Yah

1785
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 1: jumps back and forth between his cars. He's like clearly

1786
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 1: holding an empty mug to look at.

1787
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 2: I think filmed in a way that like is mints

1788
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 2: that they can cut it up for TikTok more easily.

1789
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 2: You see this with like the Liver King too. A

1790
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 2: lot of these guys will their longer YouTube videos will

1791
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 2: have kind of a weird vibe because they're mainly filming

1792
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 2: it to cut it up for TikTok, But you see

1793
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 2: here he's like, there's this fear of missing out. You're

1794
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 2: not doing enough. You've got to break like free, you're

1795
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 2: in competition with everybody else. And it's it's interesting because

1796
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 2: when he's when he's talking this stuff, it's extremely modern

1797
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 2: and it's it's almost a political right, like there was

1798
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 2: not a thing in that that is like you could

1799
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 2: super define as like a particularly political rant. Tate is

1800
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 2: a very political guy, and when he gets into his

1801
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 2: opinions about like women shouldn't be allowed to leave the house,

1802
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 2: you realize he's actually kind of like a traditionalist religious fundamentalist,

1803
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 2: which we will be building towards. But he's smart enough

1804
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 2: that he doesn't get stuck in the traps that a

1805
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 2: lot of religious fundamentalists fall into trying to reach out

1806
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 2: to young men. He doesn't start with any of that.

1807
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 2: It's stuff that kind of comes out later in some

1808
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 2: of his other rants, and he gets this. There will

1809
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,719
Speaker 2: be moments where you can he will make these arguments

1810
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 2: about stuff like military service that actually wouldn't seem out

1811
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,680
Speaker 2: of place if you're listening to some like left wing

1812
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 2: bread tuber going on a rant. I want to play

1813
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 2: you this clip here because again, it shows how much

1814
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 2: he's kind of separated himself from the traditional right wing

1815
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 2: grift sphere, or at least the traditional conservative grift sphere.

1816
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 2: Think I think you're all.

1817
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 7: We're gonna go die for what, Biden. I'm trying to

1818
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:04,759
Speaker 7: protect American freedom.

1819
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're gonna protect the freedom of those people in

1820
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 6: Nebraska by going over to Yemen and bombing some thirteen

1821
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 6: year old farmers. Great job, Stupid, you ain't protected nothing

1822
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 6: but profits for companies that don't care about you.

1823
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 7: Should only protect yourself and your boys. I thought for

1824
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 7: myself and the world champion got some money.

1825
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: You don't get any money.

1826
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,759
Speaker 7: Your leg blown off, walk around one leg, mister.

1827
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 6: Limpy, mister limpy g for what for?

1828
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 7: Biden doesn't care about you. Don't be stupid, don't be

1829
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 7: dumb them pure as that I'm joining.

1830
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 1: See that's uh, that's a that's first of all, you

1831
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 1: should only protect your boys. Made me sure audibly vomit.

1832
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 1: But uh oh that's how we work.

1833
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 2: Harry at Cool Zone.

1834
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:50,679
Speaker 1: No no, but uh, just like him going like firm

1835
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 1: anti military and anti Biden, like you're you're clearly you

1836
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 1: clearly know your audience.

1837
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's these it's these kids who grew up right

1838
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 2: after because like I mean, Ian and Sophie and I

1839
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 2: we all grew up kind of right in the wake

1840
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 2: of nine to eleven and all of that, Like where

1841
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 2: the military was this like sacred, uncriticizable thing in mainstream

1842
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 2: American culture. That era is past, and it's i mean,

1843
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 2: obviously in the UK it was always a bit different,

1844
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 2: but like that era is well passed, and you actually

1845
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 2: you can get I mean, Trump did versions of this

1846
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 2: right when he would talk about how you're like a

1847
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 2: loser if you get injured for your country. It would

1848
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,720
Speaker 2: always all these Democrats who are stuck in like two

1849
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 2: thousand and six would always get like this has to

1850
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 2: be the end for him. Look, he told people that like,

1851
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 2: injured veterans are chumps, and it's like, no, it doesn't matter.

1852
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 2: They're people are perfectly willing to say that they are

1853
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 2: chumps because this could like modern conservatism, the modern right

1854
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 2: is so purely focused on the grift and on personally

1855
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,719
Speaker 2: sucking as much money out as you can from people

1856
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 2: around you that it doesn't matter. Tate realizes that there's

1857
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 2: no need to be ashamed of this thing, and it

1858
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,639
Speaker 2: can draw in folks who are like been to listening

1859
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 2: to these kind of left wing arguments. He starts to

1860
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 2: make one there where he's like, all you're doing joining

1861
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 2: the military is murdering kids and Yemen. You can find

1862
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:11,959
Speaker 2: versions of that and like Marxist like influence and influencer,

1863
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 2: YouTube brands and show.

1864
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 1: It would be so curious to know the specific things

1865
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 1: that he uh watched and read where he like, like,

1866
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:28,680
Speaker 1: what what specifically he learned? Yeah, yeah, I mean it's

1867
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 1: it's yeah exactly.

1868
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:35,560
Speaker 2: I think he spends a lot of time and he

1869
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 2: says he spends all of his time online like he's

1870
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 2: working at the time. I think a lot of I

1871
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 2: think a lot of it is he's paying attention to

1872
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 2: what's going viral where, and he's not just paying attention

1873
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 2: to what goes viral on the right. And one of

1874
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 2: the things that happened when he got arrested is you

1875
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 2: had all of these left wing weirdos online, guys like

1876
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 2: Vosh is the one that I remember most specifically being like, well,

1877
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 2: you know, Andrew Tate's bad, but the left needs someone

1878
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 2: like him, who can speak to young men in this way.

1879
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, all he's doing is he's using

1880
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 2: these he's using his bait, little pieces of left wing

1881
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 2: social analysis and class analysis in order to get people

1882
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:17,639
Speaker 2: on the hook, and then he's trying to sell them

1883
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 2: on turning their fifteen year old cousins into uber drivers.

1884
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 2: Like that is all that is here. There's no need

1885
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 2: to replicate this. He's not actually offering people anything. He's

1886
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 2: just the thing that he's promising them. Rather than like

1887
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 2: the grinding act of trying to reform the world in

1888
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 2: a more just way, he's promising them you can get

1889
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:38,560
Speaker 2: a Lamborghini. Well, yes, that's always going to be a

1890
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 2: better pitch to a lot of people than if we

1891
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 2: all work hard and fight like hell, we can make

1892
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 2: the world more just. But you can't. There's no like,

1893
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 2: there's no replicating what Tate's doing because the only thing

1894
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 2: he's promising is a chance at like winning the lottery. Basically, right,

1895
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 2: that's not actually a thing you should shoot for. That's

1896
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 2: my opinion here. So all of the videos that I've

1897
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,639
Speaker 2: been playing for you, nearly all of them come from

1898
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 2: fans who will compile clips of his various interviews and

1899
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 2: podcast appearances and put them up on social media. Since

1900
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 2: Tate has been banned from most platforms, this is the

1901
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 2: only way his content gets out. But more than that,

1902
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 2: it's part of a cohesive media strategy. That's how he

1903
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:22,719
Speaker 2: became famous in the first place. Tate built his empire

1904
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 2: knowing that this would happen. And I'm going to quote

1905
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 2: from The Guardian here. Since January, repackaged videos from interviews

1906
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 2: with Tate over the years have been attracting millions of

1907
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 2: views on TikTok, but in recent weeks this growth has accelerated.

1908
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 2: In August. So far alone, clips tagged with his name

1909
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 2: have been watched more than a billion times. The posts

1910
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:41,639
Speaker 2: do not come from Tate himself, who does not appear

1911
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 2: to be active on the platform, but from hundreds of accounts,

1912
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 2: often using his name and photo, run by his followers.

1913
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 2: Members of Hustler's University, members, including boys as young as thirteen,

1914
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 2: are told they can earn up to ten thousand dollars

1915
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 2: a month through lessons on crypto investing, drop shipping, and

1916
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 2: by recruiting others to Tussler's University, earning a forty eight

1917
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,600
Speaker 2: percent commission for each person they refer to have the

1918
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 2: best chance of getting people to sign up. They are

1919
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:07,679
Speaker 2: advised to stoke controversy to improve their chances of going viral,

1920
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,640
Speaker 2: and one guy at Hustler's University's students are told that

1921
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 2: attracting comments and controversy is the key to success. What

1922
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:16,759
Speaker 2: you ideally want is a mix of sixty seventy percent

1923
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:19,919
Speaker 2: fans and forty to thirty percent haters. You want arguments,

1924
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 2: you want war. And this is the thing he did

1925
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 2: that's brilliant. Or mid twenty twenty two, there was this

1926
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 2: thing where all of these left wing influencers and liberal

1927
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 2: influencers and media people found out about Andrew Tate, and

1928
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 2: for weeks you could not miss him.

1929
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 1: He was every fund, he was everywhere.

1930
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Speaker 2: All of these mainstream media people like Pierce Morgan interviewed him.

1931
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Speaker 2: There were a couple others. Someone at CNN talked to him.

1932
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Speaker 2: I think like there were all these and all of

1933
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 2: them were condemning him. All of them were attacking him.

1934
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 2: A lot of them were making fun of him and

1935
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 2: trying to show him as a loser. All it did

1936
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 2: was make him millions of dollars. This is why when

1937
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 2: people were celebrating like Greta dunking on him. I was like, guys,

1938
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:03,600
Speaker 2: this is how he got rich. Thankfully he happened to

1939
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 2: get arrested after that, but like, this is how he

1940
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:09,640
Speaker 2: got rich. The only reason that we're doing these episodes

1941
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 2: now is number one. I think the strategy, the whole

1942
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 2: sweep of it is important. I wasn't willing to do

1943
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 2: something like this until I thought there was a good

1944
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 2: chance he's not getting out of fucking prison. I mean,

1945
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 2: we'll see, he might still come back to it, but

1946
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 2: I figured it was worth doing.

1947
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 1: It this And I think it's interesting that like his

1948
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,759
Speaker 1: reach where he was going on literally CNN, but also

1949
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 1: was doing like he did like an interview on a.

1950
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:35,680
Speaker 2: The Fit and Trim podcast, but also.

1951
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:40,440
Speaker 1: Like he did an entire interview on this like TikTok

1952
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:44,560
Speaker 1: teen show with Barstool Sports BFFs.

1953
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, we'll have a clip from that in a

1954
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 2: sense yeah, where it's like where it's like yeah, and

1955
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 2: that's the thing, like.

1956
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.

1957
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 2: He doesn't have a TikTok and he's like the number

1958
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 2: one guy on TikTok, or was for quite a while.

1959
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 2: And that's that's an there's brilliance in that this was conscious.

1960
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 2: He didn't luck into this, This didn't happen by accident.

1961
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 2: He realized once he gets one hundred thousand or so people,

1962
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:15,600
Speaker 2: He's like, if you've got one hundred thousand people in

1963
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 2: your discord thing following you, and you can get them

1964
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 2: all posting, you can get fifty sixty thousand people a

1965
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 2: day posting clip mashups of your interviews. Some of that's

1966
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 2: gonna go viral. It's gonna be and it's gonna go

1967
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 2: fucking and the algorithm will help carry you. And again

1968
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 2: he part of this, he didn't come up like this

1969
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 2: is part in part based on the fact that he

1970
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 2: pays attention to what's been happening. So we notice is

1971
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,880
Speaker 2: Alex Jones has guys like Kanye on because he knows

1972
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 2: that they're going to do provocative, racist shit that the

1973
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 2: media will cover and that'll get his name trending even

1974
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,600
Speaker 2: though he's not on social media. He observes this and

1975
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 2: then he goes more proactively after it. Right, what Tait's

1976
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 2: done is he's taken the logic and the sense of

1977
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:58,600
Speaker 2: personal investment that you get in a pyramid scheme or

1978
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 2: an MLM, and he's given and his followers a vested

1979
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 2: financial interest in getting his content trending around the world,

1980
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 2: and this worked incredibly well. The sudden rush of attention

1981
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 2: Tate stuff got in twenty one and twenty twenty two

1982
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 2: drove tens of thousands of mostly very young men to

1983
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 2: Hustler's University and the war Room, which is his even

1984
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 2: more exclusive discord that costs five thousand dollars a month

1985
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 2: or five thousand dollars total to join. Now, both platforms

1986
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 2: have strict requirements for their membership. If you pay five

1987
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 2: grand to join the war Room, you're warned ahead of

1988
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 2: time that you could be banned for any reason, costing

1989
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 2: you five grand if you displease Andrew Tate, So you're

1990
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:36,719
Speaker 2: going to be invested in keeping him happy.

1991
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 1: That's meanwhiletively evil.

1992
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 2: In one of the things you're told if you join

1993
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 2: Hustler's University, he tells you if you don't pay every

1994
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 2: month for this, it means you're not committed enough to

1995
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:49,560
Speaker 2: succeed and are definitely going to fail in life. I

1996
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 2: can remember him doing like a call in show where

1997
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 2: like one guy's like, yeah, I think I need to

1998
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 2: take a month off from membership to buy my mom

1999
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 2: a birthday gift, and he's like, well, if you weren't

2000
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:00,320
Speaker 2: a failure, you would have made that money already using

2001
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 2: the skills you'd learned here, and what they do if

2002
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 2: you if you miss a month of payments on Hustler's University.

2003
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 1: You're not You're not.

2004
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 2: You are siloed off to a separate discord where the

2005
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,600
Speaker 2: only thing posted in there is screen grabs of the

2006
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:16,839
Speaker 2: other member's profits.

2007
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 4: Oh my god, exactly, and come back. They want you

2008
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:24,559
Speaker 4: to find a way to get the money to exactly.

2009
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:27,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm going to continue with a quote from

2010
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 2: that Guardian investigation. We conducted an anonymous experiment with a

2011
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 2: blank account set up for a teenage boy, and we're

2012
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 2: quickly shown content of Tait. After watching two of his videos,

2013
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:39,719
Speaker 2: we were recommended more, including clips of him expressing misogynistic views.

2014
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 2: The next time the account was opened, the first four

2015
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 2: posts were of Tate from four different accounts. In one video,

2016
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:47,479
Speaker 2: posted from an account with Tate's name and face, he describes,

2017
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 2: matter of factly, how he expects his girlfriends to behave

2018
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 2: I inflict I expect absolute loyalty from my woman, he says,

2019
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 2: I am having my chicks talking to other dudes liking

2020
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:58,600
Speaker 2: other dudes. My chicks don't go to the club without me,

2021
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,639
Speaker 2: they are at home. This tactic has worked extremely well,

2022
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 2: and the way that social media functions has ensured that

2023
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 2: all the hate Tait receives does nothing but make his

2024
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 2: brand stronger. In mid twenty twenty one, basically every liberal

2025
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 2: and lefty yeah, I already talked about this, but yeah,

2026
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 2: after he gets kicked off of social media, subscriptions to

2027
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 2: Hustler's University only increase. Screenshots posted online showed that Hustler's

2028
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 2: University two point zero had about twelve thousand subscribers in

2029
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 2: March of twenty twenty two when kind of everybody started

2030
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:31,680
Speaker 2: attacking Andrew Tait. By July it had seventy seven thousand subscribers,

2031
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:33,679
Speaker 2: and at the start of August there were one hundred

2032
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 2: and twenty nine thousand followers. By the end of August,

2033
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 2: he starts to get even more media attention, and his

2034
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:46,040
Speaker 2: affiliate program that incentivized subscribers gets discontinued, which costs him

2035
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 2: a bunch of people. So, like near the end of

2036
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 2: that month, he goes down by like twenty five thousand

2037
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 2: or so, But that's a temporary loss because By September,

2038
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 2: he's back up to one hundred and sixty thousand subscribers.

2039
01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 2: In October, BuzzFeed observed more than two hundred and twenty

2040
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 2: one thousand users in his discord server, which is Hustler's

2041
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 2: university two point zero. Since all of those people were

2042
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 2: paying forty nine to ninety nine a month, that means

2043
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 2: he was making eleven million dollars in October alone just

2044
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:11,759
Speaker 2: from his discord.

2045
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 4: Holy shit, that's crazy. Yeah and yeah, and you know

2046
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 4: he's not paying taxes on it.

2047
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 2: He's already told you you shouldn't pay taxes on your shit.

2048
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 2: Break the law right time. Point now, I think it's

2049
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 2: important to see the way a lot of young men

2050
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 2: react to and imitate Tait, because it could be easy

2051
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 2: to dismiss him as just another weirdo right wing guy online.

2052
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:43,560
Speaker 2: If you don't see that, so, I'm gonna play you

2053
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 2: a clip. This is of some kid. I think they're eighteen.

2054
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:51,760
Speaker 2: This is their TikTok. Watch this. Pay attention to his mannerisms.

2055
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 2: You've all seen enough Andrew Tait now to recognize Tate.

2056
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,120
Speaker 3: Pe will think that it's so hard to break the matrix.

2057
01:44:58,240 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 10: And I'm here to tell you it's not like I,

2058
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 10: I mean, my first million dollars last year and in

2059
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 10: the past twelve months, I was able to turn that

2060
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 10: one million dollars into five point six million at eighteen

2061
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 10: years old. By the way, and I'll tell you this

2062
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 10: right now, I didn't do this by listening to no

2063
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:12,879
Speaker 10: brokeye teacher saying.

2064
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 7: Steady, steady, steady, steady for your degree.

2065
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:17,640
Speaker 3: Fuck your degree. It is not hard to create your

2066
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 3: dream life. Like, once you make that first one hundred k,

2067
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 3: you are out. And if you follow the steps that

2068
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 3: I give you and actually take action and make that

2069
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 3: first one hundred k and not blow it on a

2070
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 3: fucking penthouse or a lambeau, you will be out. So

2071
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 3: stop waiting and join us. People think that it's so hard.

2072
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 2: Wow wow, Yeah, that's like.

2073
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 4: This is literally like Verbad him like clone of scent.

2074
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, right down to like the facial expressions and stuff.

2075
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 4: And he's and even like he's doing kind of a

2076
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 4: weird like semi British accent thing in there something I

2077
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 4: don't know, maybe the kid is British, but like every.

2078
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 2: And he's doing like the term brokey is one that

2079
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:55,879
Speaker 2: evolved within the taps.

2080
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 4: Can exactly the hand gestures like all of this.

2081
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like the thing, by the way, broke is

2082
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 2: like that's what they tell you, Tait. People tell you,

2083
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 2: like call your teachers that tell you, like the adults

2084
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 2: around you who tell you not to obsess with Andrew

2085
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 2: Tate's style, hustlers brokies because they're not multi millionaires, so

2086
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 2: they're losers if you argue with these people online. The

2087
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 2: question they're told to ask you is what color is

2088
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:19,320
Speaker 2: your Bugatti? By the way, the color of Andrew Tate's

2089
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 2: Bugatti now is he doesn't have one because it's been

2090
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 2: confiscated by the Romanian governments. But this again, you see

2091
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:29,640
Speaker 2: why this is like I mean just to for a

2092
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 2: little bit of like personal context, when I was nineteen

2093
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 2: to eighteen nineteen, like I started working, and it sucks,

2094
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 2: Like working for minimum wage and trying to afford an

2095
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 2: apartment was a lot easier fifteen sixteen years ago when

2096
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 2: I was doing it, but like it's still sucked ass.

2097
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 2: And the thing that I wanted more than anything was

2098
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:52,680
Speaker 2: to like figure out some job that would let me

2099
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 2: work from home doing something that wasn't miserable, which is

2100
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 2: like how I started my career in like tech journalism

2101
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 2: and shit like that. Was my sole motivation was to

2102
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 2: not have to spend forty to sixty hours a week

2103
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 2: being miserable in an office in like for someone else's profit.

2104
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 2: I didn't want to have to do that. And like,

2105
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:19,639
Speaker 2: I get how powerful a motivator that is. And there's

2106
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 2: again this kid that we just saw, Like part of

2107
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,080
Speaker 2: what he's saying is like these teachers who tell you

2108
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 2: to study for your degree, that's not going to help you.

2109
01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:28,200
Speaker 2: And for a lot of people, he's right. I know

2110
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:30,800
Speaker 2: a shitload of people who got a fucking college degree

2111
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:33,200
Speaker 2: and it did nothing but lock them into debt. There's

2112
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 2: there's a reason why kids are vulnerable to this shit,

2113
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 2: and it's because doing things the quote unquote right way

2114
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 2: is often deeply unpleasant. It's just that all Andrew Tate's

2115
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 2: going to get you to do is give him money.

2116
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 2: He's not going to teach you how to escape this system,

2117
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 2: because you can't escape it. Like, even if you think

2118
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 2: that you've escaped it because you've gotten a decent job,

2119
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 2: you're still latched to it one way or the other,

2120
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 2: Like it is still dracking behind you, which is why

2121
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 2: we need to kill it with a spear. But anyway,

2122
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:13,799
Speaker 2: that's that's ads time for some ads. Ah, good stuff.

2123
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:19,920
Speaker 1: So how I'm like good stuff? Not sure? How are

2124
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:21,640
Speaker 1: you gonna ask how we're feeling? U?

2125
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, how are you feeling? Is everybody doing?

2126
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 1: Everybody happy, sad and concerned for a lot hearing happy.

2127
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 2: I'm hearing happy. That's good.

2128
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 1: Tell us more so.

2129
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 2: In the weeks before his arrest, Andrew was trending in

2130
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 2: what is a legitimately fascinating direction. He announced at the

2131
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 2: start of December of twenty twenty two that he had

2132
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 2: converted to Islam. Now there is a whole video. There's

2133
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:47,679
Speaker 2: a number of them, but I watched a whole video

2134
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 2: with him in some like weirdo Muslim scholar. I don't

2135
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:53,040
Speaker 2: know that this guy is a good It's unlike the

2136
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 2: one Islam network, which has one point seven to four

2137
01:48:56,439 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 2: million subscribers, this video has one point six million views.

2138
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 2: The guy is Mohammed Jjab. I don't think he's a

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Speaker 2: good person. And I'm certainly not saying that he actually

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01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 2: knows or actually is a is an expert on Islam.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not certainly either, but boy, this

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01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:18,680
Speaker 2: video is gross as shit. So he tait starts by

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01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 2: like saying that he had converted to Islam because he

2144
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 2: decided it was the only real religion, right, all of

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01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 2: the other religions have been cucked by the matrix in

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01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:29,919
Speaker 2: or fake. And he claimed he used to be an atheist,

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01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:32,639
Speaker 2: but then he saw evil and that that convinced him

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Speaker 2: of the existence of God. And then we get to

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Speaker 2: my favorite part, which is the only thing that's entertaining

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01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:39,679
Speaker 2: in this video and not deeply depressing.

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Speaker 6: Longest time, you know, I've never been to like a

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01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 6: music concernd.

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Speaker 2: I just look at it and I feel embarrassed.

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Speaker 6: I look at someone up on a stage dancing round,

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01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,400
Speaker 6: and I look at hundreds of thousands of peasants in

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01:49:54,439 --> 01:49:58,799
Speaker 6: the crowd, just yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like, it's embarrassing.

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01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,720
Speaker 6: I'm I feel cringe, just like secondhand embarrassment when I

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01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 6: see these festivals and everyone's losing their mind, or these

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01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 6: music concerts, I genuinely feel embarrassed for the people who go,

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Speaker 6: because to me, that is a form of worship, Like

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01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 6: you can listen to the music at home for free,

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01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 6: Like you don't have to wait in that line and

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01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 6: stand out in the cold. I don't know, perhaps it

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01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 6: was a bit extreme, but I've always known that they're

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Speaker 6: trying to give us false idols to some degree. And

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Speaker 6: when I speak to atheists, atheists like, oh, I don't

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01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 6: believe in God, but they've signed up so hard to

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Speaker 6: the liberal woe agenda. They're as religious as anybody, but

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01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 6: they're just believing in the wrong things they're believing.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's interesting because what clearly has happened

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01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 2: here is that Andrew Tait is a deeply malignant narcissist.

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01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 2: And if you go to a concert, part of like

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01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 2: what people get out of a concert is losing themselves

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Speaker 2: in a piece of another person's creation. And that would

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01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 2: mean that the focus is not on Andrew Tait, and

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01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 2: he's simply not only can he not enjoy it, but

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Speaker 2: it makes him sick. Yeah, to see other people be

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01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 2: a focus of attention, Like.

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Speaker 1: Live music is one of the greatest we have.

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Speaker 2: It's the single best thing that our species has created.

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Speaker 1: Like, but Andrew not and ert.

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Speaker 2: I do think it's funny.

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Speaker 4: It's like, but if people are looking at du Lipa,

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01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 4: that means.

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01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 2: No one paying attention to Andrew Tate. Yes, also there's

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01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:23,120
Speaker 2: definitely videos of him at concerts.

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01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 1: But at least that's beautiful.

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01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 2: It's very funny. It's also worth noting that Andrew Tate

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01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:32,520
Speaker 2: and Jeff Bezos are buddies in baldness and not understanding

2190
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 2: the gift of songs. So that's that's what it's neat

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01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 2: that they have that in common.

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01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:40,679
Speaker 1: They also both like to wear really tight pants, which

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Speaker 1: is they also both like to.

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01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 2: Wear really tight pants. That is correct, although I gotta

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01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:49,759
Speaker 2: say this, Jeff Bezos gave up half of his fortune

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01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 2: in the divorce, and I don't think that Andrew Tate

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Speaker 2: would have done that.

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01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 4: So yeah, definitely not definitely.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, Tate was arrested before the end of twenty

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01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:04,240
Speaker 2: twenty two alongside his brother Tristan, and two Romanian women,

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01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 2: one of whom was a former Romanian police officer. Some

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01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:11,599
Speaker 2: of the articles I found that are Romanian will say

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01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,800
Speaker 2: that the women were branded by him. This is not

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01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 2: entirely accurate. They're saying this because of like nexium right,

2205
01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:21,640
Speaker 2: because the second season of The Keith Rinieri Dot came

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01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 2: out and those women had been branded. The reality is

2207
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 2: that they have Tates girls tattoos, which we know exist.

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01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 2: I've seen pictures of them on a number of different

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01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 2: women and like, that's weird, but that is not branding.

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01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 2: People get tattoos, People get tattoos with dudes' names on them.

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01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:36,080
Speaker 2: It's not branding.

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Speaker 1: And somebody dramatically different.

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01:52:39,640 --> 01:52:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, the guy is deeply abusive, but he is

2214
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 2: not Like, I have not seen any evidence these literally

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01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 2: branding women. They just got tattoos of his name, which

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01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:50,120
Speaker 2: is like weird, but not what Keith Ranieri was having

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01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 2: women do. It is too early for me to comment

2218
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 2: in much detail about the allegations against him. We do

2219
01:52:57,320 --> 01:52:59,080
Speaker 2: know that at least two women I think it's up

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01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:02,560
Speaker 2: to four now have accused one of the Tates, and

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01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 2: we don't actually know which of the Tates with physical

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01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:08,679
Speaker 2: and sexual abuse. In addition, both Tits are accused, along

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01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 2: with those women, of sexually trafficking a number of women

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01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 2: for their webcam business.

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01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:15,560
Speaker 1: Do we think he throws brother under the bus to

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01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:18,280
Speaker 1: save himself one million?

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01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a good chance. I don't think

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01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:24,880
Speaker 2: Tristan would. Tristan I think is kind of Tristan's a

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01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 2: giant piece of shit, by the way, Like I think

2230
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:30,679
Speaker 2: that Andrew would throw Tristan under the bus before Tristan

2231
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:32,560
Speaker 2: would throw Andrew under the bus. Although I'm open to

2232
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 2: being surprised. Here for a little bit of context on

2233
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:38,600
Speaker 2: the crimes, I'm going to quote from ruiters here. The

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01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,839
Speaker 2: Directorate for Investigating Organized Crime and Terrorism said the suspects

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01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 2: appear to have created an organized crime group with the

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01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:46,640
Speaker 2: purpose of recruiting, housing, and exploiting women by forcing them

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01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,919
Speaker 2: to create pornographic content to be seen on specialized websites

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01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:52,760
Speaker 2: for a cost. It claimed that the men recruited women

2239
01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 2: with the pretense of romance in the lover boy method

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01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 2: before being forced to perform in pornographic content under the

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01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:01,720
Speaker 2: threat of violence. Investigators are reported to believe one of

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01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:04,320
Speaker 2: the performers brought in forty five thousand dollars a month

2243
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 2: or forty five thousand pounds a month, but received no payment,

2244
01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 2: and while the women were kept under house arrest. Tate

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01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 2: claims the women kept eighty to eighty five percent of

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01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 2: the fees earned and that most of the girls ended

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01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:17,960
Speaker 2: up being multi millionaires. And look. Tate has his claim

2248
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:20,560
Speaker 2: here that's important to note, but we know that in

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01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:23,800
Speaker 2: his Hustler's University video he recommends getting people to work

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01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 2: with you in a gig basis and then lying to

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01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:27,760
Speaker 2: them about how much money they're making, so you can

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01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 2: take it all. So I think there's reason to believe

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01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:38,280
Speaker 2: the Romanian authorities on this one. Now, the prosecution doesn't

2254
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 2: just have that, they have audio that likely some of

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01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:42,360
Speaker 2: it I think came from a wiretap. Some of it

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01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 2: seems to have been recorded by one of his victims.

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01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 2: Some of this audio has been leaked to apparently been

2258
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:51,920
Speaker 2: leaked to local Romanian news sources. Most of the translations

2259
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 2: that I found have been from Romanians on edit on Reddit.

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01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:56,840
Speaker 2: I'm not going to quote directly from it because I

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01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 2: just am not certain about the providence of all of

2262
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 2: this yet. But some credible Romanian news sources are reporting that,

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01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 2: based on these leaked conversations that the prosecution has Tate

2264
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:11,480
Speaker 2: openly discusses using the women who worked for him to

2265
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:13,480
Speaker 2: launder Bunny and talks about the fact that he is

2266
01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 2: committing crimes. He does this very openly. They have him

2267
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 2: recorded talking about the laws that he's broken. Because as

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01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:23,400
Speaker 2: smart as he is in terms of how to get

2269
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 2: himself going viral on TikTok, he's not comprehensive. Again, like

2270
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:30,880
Speaker 2: everything about Andrew, he's not as good as he thinks

2271
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 2: he is, and in this case, it seems to have

2272
01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:36,520
Speaker 2: bitten him in the ass. Now, it is worth noting

2273
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 2: that Tate's house had been rated like six months before

2274
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:43,280
Speaker 2: his arrest, so he was aware that the police were

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01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 2: on him. It's kind of baffling to me that he

2276
01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 2: did not, and maybe it shows his arrogance that he

2277
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 2: didn't try to flee the country with his assets or

2278
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:53,680
Speaker 2: as much of them as possible, and instead he kind

2279
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 2: of seated his fan base with comments about the fact

2280
01:55:56,440 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 2: that he was likely to be arrested or killed. This

2281
01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 2: is sort of a John McAfee, and I'm sure that's

2282
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 2: who he's copying from. Here. Here's a clip from a

2283
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:07,040
Speaker 2: fan video I found with nearly seven hundred thousand views

2284
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:08,800
Speaker 2: at the time of publication of this episode.

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01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:12,400
Speaker 11: This right here is one of my eighteen audiobooks that

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01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:12,960
Speaker 11: I own.

2287
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 2: It made another Audible.

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01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 11: They're Spanish for kids, and I don't even speak Spanish. Okay, guys,

2289
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 11: I paid fifty dollars here the audio, and I just

2290
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 11: uploaded the file to Audible. But what's amazing about this?

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01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:33,280
Speaker 11: I make about fifty to one hundred sales, and for

2292
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 11: each sale I get paid, So.

2293
01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 2: Again, part of why Andrew is because this is he.

2294
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:39,960
Speaker 2: He will tell you how to do a version of

2295
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:42,280
Speaker 2: this scam, and so will a million other people. Part

2296
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:44,760
Speaker 2: of why take gets away with what he's doing is

2297
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 2: we have built a culture in which every single mass

2298
01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 2: media organ is largely supported by a variety of scams

2299
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 2: and cons designed to suck money from people and provide

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01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 2: them with nothing. Including That's how YouTube makes its money.

2301
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 2: This is a huge amount of YouTube's advertising, like is

2302
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:07,600
Speaker 2: shit like this. That's why Andrew is able to maneuver

2303
01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 2: and act is that our culture has created the space

2304
01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:12,360
Speaker 2: where it is all nothing but a series of cons

2305
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 2: from the top to the bottom. Anyway, let's let's watch

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01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 2: this video now of him talking about how he's going

2307
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 2: to be murdered for cracking the matrix.

2308
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 4: To think they're not.

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01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:23,280
Speaker 7: All I'm trying to do is teach men to be strong.

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01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 6: If they decide to kill me on a long enough timeframe,

2311
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:28,280
Speaker 6: they're going to be successful.

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01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:30,680
Speaker 4: But I can't.

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01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:34,560
Speaker 6: I don't want to live in fear because what did

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01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 6: I say in the earlier tenant? If I become a coward,

2315
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:39,600
Speaker 6: I will live in fear and it breeds in action.

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01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:40,920
Speaker 1: The music amazing.

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01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:43,320
Speaker 2: I want the world to know about.

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01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:46,160
Speaker 6: Absolutely never ever kill myself under any circumstances. Ever, no

2319
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:49,080
Speaker 6: matter what they say, I did not kill myself. I

2320
01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 6: don't want to be seen as a threat to I

2321
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 6: have to die. I want to be seen as a

2322
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 6: positive force.

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01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:58,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you right now. Andrew absolutely would commit

2324
01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:00,760
Speaker 2: suicide if he thought he was never going to get

2325
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:04,200
Speaker 2: out of prison, just like John McAfee did. Just like Look,

2326
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:07,080
Speaker 2: narcissists do this all the time. He's just hoping that

2327
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:11,800
Speaker 2: he can rile people up, get folks angry, maybe inspire

2328
01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 2: some violence on his behalf. Again, this is a pretty

2329
01:58:15,400 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 2: This is part of the playbook where he's not being

2330
01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 2: creative at all. He's just doing a John.

2331
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:21,839
Speaker 1: McAfee, literally doing a McAfee.

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01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, true to and I hope he I hope

2333
01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:30,320
Speaker 2: he does the full McAfee, by the way, true to form.

2334
01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:33,680
Speaker 2: Immediately after his request, someone with access to his account

2335
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 2: posted a link to Hustler's University three point zero, which

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01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:38,760
Speaker 2: is the newest face of his alle. He had just

2337
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 2: launched this before he got arrested. Now Hustler's University three

2338
01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:45,680
Speaker 2: point zero lifts at the link, join therealworld dot com

2339
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:48,560
Speaker 2: and on the website is a video made with clips

2340
01:58:48,600 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 2: from The Matrix and some other movies, alongside clips of

2341
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 2: Tate and clips of other YouTube stars attacking him because

2342
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:56,520
Speaker 2: he was like on Logan Paul's show, and then when

2343
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:59,640
Speaker 2: he got arrested, Logan Paul pretended that like he hated him.

2344
01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:02,680
Speaker 2: All this stuff above the video is the text. It's

2345
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 2: time to wake up Neo, Join us a mass wealth,

2346
01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:11,400
Speaker 2: escape slavery. Hustler's University. Bustler is a university, Pustler's University.

2347
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:13,760
Speaker 2: Want to learn about Housler's University. There's a bunch of

2348
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:16,480
Speaker 2: rooms to go into and those rooms have a millionaire

2349
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:20,800
Speaker 2: professors who are taught by a millionaires that answer your questions.

2350
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:23,320
Speaker 2: They give you everything on a silver planning. It may

2351
01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:25,880
Speaker 2: be impossible to not make money if you follow what

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Speaker 2: they see.

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01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:36,120
Speaker 6: Not only having contact with actual multimillionaires, being part of

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Speaker 6: a community of students, we all helping you.

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Speaker 2: It's a community people that are there for you, who

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Speaker 2: are in there for one thing and has to make money.

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Speaker 1: I've already made my money back after the first day.

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Speaker 2: I've made five k this month from just joining. That's

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Speaker 2: fucking crazy.

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Speaker 6: I've made four k in my first month, three two

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Speaker 6: thousand dollars for two weeks.

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Speaker 2: I just made the buckets. What it tells goalers the

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Speaker 2: great song, so fucking cheeks.

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Speaker 1: All in all, I made about three thousand dollars.

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Speaker 4: I go with the match my nine to five income.

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Speaker 2: I shadowed that by five times.

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Speaker 4: It's had days where I made two or three thousand dollars,

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Speaker 4: and that's like what I used to make in a month.

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Speaker 7: That'll allow me.

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Speaker 2: There are so many guys in this video. We probably

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02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:31,080
Speaker 2: saw like fucking close to one hundred of them in

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02:00:31,160 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 2: that first series of just like different clips of people

2373
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:38,240
Speaker 2: talking about their experience with Hustler's University. Again, hundreds of

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02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:41,280
Speaker 2: thousands of people who have paid him money directly and

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Speaker 2: have joined. And all of these dudes are still on

2376
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Speaker 2: Hustler's University. It is still functioning as far as I

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Speaker 2: have heard, and presumably still deeply invested in Tait's success,

2378
02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:57,400
Speaker 2: Like this is not a problem that's over and it is.

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02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:01,320
Speaker 2: You know, we don't know the court case. Andrew and

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02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:04,400
Speaker 2: his brother basically have not actually been formally charged yet

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02:01:05,080 --> 02:01:07,800
Speaker 2: as of publication of this episode, or at least as

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02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:09,840
Speaker 2: of the recording of it. They are on a thirty

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02:01:09,920 --> 02:01:14,040
Speaker 2: day hold to while the Romanian court kind of gets

2384
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:16,600
Speaker 2: shit in order to see what they're actually going to

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Speaker 2: charge them on. Some of this is just that, like

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02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:22,040
Speaker 2: Andrew's obviously a flight risk. He has whole videos about

2387
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Speaker 2: all the private jets that he has access to, so

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Speaker 2: we'll see. I think there's a chance Andrew has played

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Speaker 2: his last cards, although I think there's a chance he

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02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:33,600
Speaker 2: winds up getting out. And this has another ugly chapter,

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02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:36,440
Speaker 2: but there's a very good chance he's going to do

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Speaker 2: serious prison time, like ten plus years in Romania. And however,

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02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:44,240
Speaker 2: Rabbit his fan base is now, if he spends years

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Speaker 2: in prison, I think that will dull his appeal for

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02:01:47,400 --> 02:01:49,680
Speaker 2: one thing, it'll make him look like a loser. But

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Speaker 2: in the here and now, all we are all left

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02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 2: with the problem of all of these fucking people, these

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Speaker 2: young minds, these weirdos, these kids that he's influenced. Multiple schools,

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Speaker 2: particularly in the United Kingdom, have had to hold classes

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Speaker 2: and seminars on de radicalizing teenage boys who fell through

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Speaker 2: Andrew Tate. And I'm going to close this episode by

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Speaker 2: reading a quote from one of those articles in the

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Speaker 2: Times of London. His initial attraction to young people, said

2404
02:02:14,160 --> 02:02:16,680
Speaker 2: one teacher was often his advice around being confident and

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02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:20,080
Speaker 2: financially successful, and from there he capitalizes on a post

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02:02:20,200 --> 02:02:23,240
Speaker 2: me too anxiety with comments such as females don't have

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02:02:23,320 --> 02:02:25,560
Speaker 2: independent thought, they don't come up with anything. They're just

2408
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 2: empty vessels waiting for someone to install the programming. Jay Jordan,

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02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:31,680
Speaker 2: a teacher in Dundee of five years, said the recent

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02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:34,400
Speaker 2: interest in Tate had made boys more hostile. Used to

2411
02:02:34,480 --> 02:02:37,000
Speaker 2: have to deal with sexist stuff, but now it's explicitly

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02:02:37,040 --> 02:02:40,000
Speaker 2: connected to Andrew Tate. The boys do not stop talking

2413
02:02:40,040 --> 02:02:42,760
Speaker 2: about him, she said. In one class she reprimanded a

2414
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:45,800
Speaker 2: fourteen year old, you're just a woman, he responded. Jordan,

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02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:49,440
Speaker 2: thirty seven, said, we've definitely gone backwards and it is worrying.

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02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:54,320
Speaker 2: And that's the fun place to end the Andrew Tait cast,

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Speaker 2: the Tate pisodes. How we doing gang? Uh?

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Speaker 4: That's just yeah, like I said before, it's I'm scared

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02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:09,600
Speaker 4: because there's like hundreds of thousands of boys and young

2420
02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:11,800
Speaker 4: men who think like this and like they're they're not

2421
02:03:12,040 --> 02:03:14,280
Speaker 4: they're not in jail, they're not going anywhere, you know,

2422
02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:18,320
Speaker 4: So like that this mindset and this ideology is going

2423
02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:22,400
Speaker 4: to continue to be proliferated, and it's it's pretty, it.

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02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:27,360
Speaker 2: Is terrifying, and it's it's worth noting again people talking about, like,

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02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:30,320
Speaker 2: what's the solution, is throwing him in prison the solution,

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02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:33,360
Speaker 2: and like, no, throwing him in prison is a tourniquet.

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02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:37,400
Speaker 2: Maybe I think it might stop his ability to grow

2428
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:39,560
Speaker 2: the way that he would have grown if it hadn't.

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02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:43,920
Speaker 2: Deplatforming was a total failure in this, Like kicking him

2430
02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:46,200
Speaker 2: off of shit did nothing but increase his reach in

2431
02:03:46,280 --> 02:03:48,960
Speaker 2: his profitability because of the quote unquote controversy that got

2432
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:52,160
Speaker 2: jam and the thing to blame here, there's a couple

2433
02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:54,600
Speaker 2: of things. Number One, the structure of social media is

2434
02:03:54,680 --> 02:03:57,760
Speaker 2: to blame the structure of social media in order to

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02:03:57,880 --> 02:04:00,880
Speaker 2: stop and Andrew Tait. It's not getting better arresting these guys.

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02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:04,160
Speaker 2: It's changing the structure of social media to not reward

2437
02:04:04,280 --> 02:04:08,080
Speaker 2: the kind of conflicts that he deliberately incited. In order

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02:04:08,160 --> 02:04:10,520
Speaker 2: to the fact that like, if you do something super

2439
02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:13,160
Speaker 2: fucked up and racist and people get angry about it,

2440
02:04:13,240 --> 02:04:16,680
Speaker 2: it increases your reach on every social media app that exists.

2441
02:04:17,080 --> 02:04:19,760
Speaker 2: Is a huge part of the problem, and the reason

2442
02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 2: why that will not change is fundamentally that's how all

2443
02:04:22,240 --> 02:04:25,320
Speaker 2: of these people make money, whether they're the good Twitter,

2444
02:04:25,560 --> 02:04:28,000
Speaker 2: the bad elon tw Twitter, they all made their money

2445
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:30,960
Speaker 2: by making people fight or by not making people fight,

2446
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:34,280
Speaker 2: but by sharing things that would make people angry so

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02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:37,640
Speaker 2: that they would engage in fights. That's a big part

2448
02:04:37,720 --> 02:04:42,040
Speaker 2: of what Andrew Tate recognized. The other thing is the

2449
02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:47,120
Speaker 2: entire structure of the system that we live under, rewards,

2450
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:50,960
Speaker 2: cons and grifts. It is all figure out what the latest.

2451
02:04:51,360 --> 02:04:55,360
Speaker 2: As technology increases, there are more opportunities to run versions

2452
02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:57,920
Speaker 2: of the same old MLM scam that will not be

2453
02:04:58,080 --> 02:05:01,600
Speaker 2: recognized yet by the government as illegal. Right, So you

2454
02:05:01,720 --> 02:05:03,320
Speaker 2: get in there as fast as you can, and you

2455
02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:06,560
Speaker 2: make your money, and then you fucking escape. And this

2456
02:05:06,720 --> 02:05:09,120
Speaker 2: is the way. This is the fucking cryptocurrency thing, right,

2457
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:11,960
Speaker 2: This is all that NFT shit. It's this. This the

2458
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:14,360
Speaker 2: new scam that is really just the old scam dressed

2459
02:05:14,440 --> 02:05:16,160
Speaker 2: up in enough of a coat of paint that nobody

2460
02:05:16,280 --> 02:05:20,000
Speaker 2: recognizes that like, none of like the law doesn't recognize

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02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:21,880
Speaker 2: it for a couple of years. That's all Andrew has

2462
02:05:21,960 --> 02:05:25,040
Speaker 2: ever been doing. That's all he is purporting to teach you.

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02:05:26,240 --> 02:05:30,960
Speaker 2: And he just was sloppy enough with aspects of his life,

2464
02:05:31,160 --> 02:05:35,040
Speaker 2: and that he wasn't able to keep doing it long enough, right, Like,

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02:05:35,120 --> 02:05:37,680
Speaker 2: the only reason he got caught is that he bragged

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02:05:37,680 --> 02:05:40,360
Speaker 2: about breaking the laws in Romania and that they weren't

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02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:43,120
Speaker 2: going to punish him. And also he was too good

2468
02:05:43,160 --> 02:05:45,920
Speaker 2: at becoming famous. If he had stayed a few levels

2469
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:47,880
Speaker 2: lower than this, if he'd stayed at like that Alex

2470
02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:51,560
Speaker 2: Jones level or whatever of social media influence, even he

2471
02:05:51,680 --> 02:05:53,480
Speaker 2: probably would have kept getting away with it. But he

2472
02:05:53,680 --> 02:05:57,760
Speaker 2: was so big that it created such a fuss, and

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02:05:58,200 --> 02:06:01,040
Speaker 2: the Romanian government had to be like, look now he's

2474
02:06:01,120 --> 02:06:05,040
Speaker 2: bragging about sex trafficking, and the EU's angry at us

2475
02:06:05,040 --> 02:06:08,000
Speaker 2: because we already have this problem. Let's destroy this guy's

2476
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:13,560
Speaker 2: life in order to because he basically forced us to write.

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02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:15,480
Speaker 2: If he'd been a little bit less of an idiot,

2478
02:06:15,520 --> 02:06:17,480
Speaker 2: a little bit more careful, he would have gotten away

2479
02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:19,520
Speaker 2: with it for longer, and the next one probably will.

2480
02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:23,000
Speaker 2: Although maybe all of these guys, because they're narcissists, are

2481
02:06:23,080 --> 02:06:25,120
Speaker 2: unable to kind of pull back from the ledge before

2482
02:06:25,160 --> 02:06:27,760
Speaker 2: they go over it. I guess that's the optimistic thing.

2483
02:06:28,160 --> 02:06:30,280
Speaker 2: Maybe fundamentally, the kind of guy who can do and

2484
02:06:30,400 --> 02:06:33,360
Speaker 2: Andrew Tait is always going to be so much of

2485
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:36,200
Speaker 2: an egomaniac that they can't stop themselves. I don't know.

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02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:43,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the way that he's reached his audience

2487
02:06:44,080 --> 02:06:50,040
Speaker 1: should be examined and that it's truly terrifying. It's truly

2488
02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:55,160
Speaker 1: terrifying the reach that he has and that the Internet

2489
02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:59,360
Speaker 1: basically has rewarded him for it. I hope these days

2490
02:06:59,400 --> 02:07:02,680
Speaker 1: in jail, yeah, long time and fizzles out. But as

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02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:05,840
Speaker 1: we can see, Andrew Tate clones will just keep popping up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And that's that's the scary thing. Like somebody

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Speaker 4: four point zero or whatever. And that's what's scary about

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Speaker 4: it is as long as our current social media ecosystem

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02:07:30,040 --> 02:07:32,960
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2500
02:07:33,080 --> 02:07:35,320
Speaker 4: keep finding ways to exploit this and and do the

2501
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Speaker 4: same thing. And uh yeah, that's that's scary.

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Speaker 2: a five thousand dollars?

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Speaker 4: Yes, let's see it? All right?

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