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Speaker 1: Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny mccraig, and new He scrugs.

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Speaker 1: All right, players last on a Friday, eleven thirty social time.

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Speaker 1: You know we're coming at you here. I'm knew, he scrugs.

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Speaker 1: Longtime Cowboys reported joined by former Dallas Cowboys safety Barry Church.

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Speaker 1: I guy, Danny mccraig has taken the week all We

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Speaker 1: have a full hour with a whole lot of topics

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Speaker 1: to get to. We are going to give you our opinions.

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Speaker 1: You may not like it, but we're gonna tell it

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Speaker 1: Here brought to you by Hotels dot Com. Church. How

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Speaker 1: are we doing? Man? I'm blue good man. It's a

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Speaker 1: beautiful day out there in the Metro place. Man. The

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Speaker 1: you do you like your tea times for golf morning afternoon. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm more of a morning guy because, like you know,

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Speaker 1: But speaking of that newing, you need to get out

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Speaker 1: get out there with me. Have you played Craig Craig

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Speaker 1: Ranch at all? No? I had not played Craig Ranch. Hit.

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Speaker 1: I had not. Okay, Um, I've got a date right

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Speaker 1: We'll try to make make it make a morning to

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of news this week last night making

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Speaker 1: news where they signed Demante CAZy, a free safety with

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Speaker 1: him when he was a head coach, and um the

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Speaker 1: secondary coach of the Cowboys, Joe was with him last year.

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Speaker 1: So this is a guy locked in here. Church, You

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Speaker 1: free safety in this type of system? That's what he

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Speaker 1: there in Seattle. So here's a guy that comes in

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Speaker 1: here now, Kazy And by the way, it's pronounced Kazy

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Speaker 1: like jay Z. CAZy has miss town Achilles in Week four. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but let me hear from dan Quinn. I mean really

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Speaker 1: at this point time, let me hear from dan Quinn

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Speaker 1: and what dan Quinn's gonna do. And that's the thing

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Speaker 1: earlier this year. Do we know the identity? Do we

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Speaker 1: know what this defense is about or what this team

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Speaker 1: is about overall? I mean we it's just to me,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of just or we want to be this,

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Speaker 1: we want to be that, and we're just okay at

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Speaker 1: a lot of things. It's saying being great at one

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Speaker 1: simple thing. And right now we I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you know what it happen to be

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Speaker 1: is because right now we haven't been told. We haven't

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Speaker 1: been told what we're gonna do as a defense. So

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Speaker 1: we'll just have to wait and see. All right, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna ask you this Church, when you left jack Dallas

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Speaker 1: to win to the Nancy Championship? What was it? Was

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Speaker 1: that Seattle defense that Gus Bradley single high defense and

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Speaker 1: you knew what order for? You know, we knew he

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Speaker 1: Every time we came out, it snapped a little. I

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Speaker 1: there was there was no elaborate disguise, There was nothing like.

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Speaker 1: We did what we did and teams knew that. Now,

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Speaker 1: what keyan O'Neill could do. Because when we had we

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Speaker 1: He was at all linebacker Miles Jack and we had

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Speaker 1: Telvin Smith, and Telvin Smith soaking wet was about my side.

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Speaker 1: So he was two seventeen maybe soaking wet, but that speed,

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Speaker 1: And that's the defense that I'm hoping we can get

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Speaker 1: to here in Dallas. Like maybe we need a couple

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Speaker 1: It works if you got the tools and you make

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Speaker 1: by former Dallas Cowboys safety Barry Church. Danny McCrae with

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Speaker 1: the day off here All right, man, j Ron Curse,

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Speaker 1: there was another safety the Cowboys signs. The Cowboys really

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Speaker 1: addressing that defensive backfield this week with three signings here.

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Speaker 1: Special teams captain played last year Detroit, started seven games

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Speaker 1: there before that, he played in Minnesota. So many times

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Speaker 1: we get on this show and we really do stress

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Speaker 1: special teams. Spell This is how Danny made the Cowboys. Here.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on Curse being with this football team now, Look,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great sign And if the MAC

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Speaker 1: was here, he'd be applauding right now because finally it

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Speaker 1: feels like this organization, this team, they're taking special teams seriously.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, they signed C. J. Goodwin, who was

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Speaker 1: probably their best special teamer on the team, well on

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Speaker 1: the team last year he was, and maybe in the

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Speaker 1: NFL and then now you bring Cursing, who can be

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Speaker 1: that kind of backup to Keian O'Neill and that sublinebacker system,

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Speaker 1: and he can help out on special teams. Now, I

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Speaker 1: did a little I did a little research on Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Focus, and I think they had him listed way

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Speaker 1: down there as far as special team. I think he's

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Speaker 1: like five hundreds or something like that when it comes

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Speaker 1: to team. So hopefully he can ramp that up a

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Speaker 1: little bit. But it shows that when they signed guys

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Speaker 1: like that, they're putting the emphasis on special teams or

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Speaker 1: not just bringing in guys and saying, all us throw

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Speaker 1: him on punt or all us throw him on kickoff,

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Speaker 1: because we've seen that can hurt your team special teams.

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Speaker 1: If you don't have guys out there with that mentality

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Speaker 1: to go out go out there and just run through walls,

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Speaker 1: it can hurt your team overall. We've seen and hurt

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Speaker 1: our team in the past. So I just like it

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Speaker 1: overall that they're putting the emphasis on bringing guys in

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Speaker 1: that can play strictly special teams and can help this

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Speaker 1: team out overall. It can be a benefit for us

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Speaker 1: and now they're taking it serious. So another solid, another

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Speaker 1: solid acquisition by a Dallas Cowboys. So special team guys

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Speaker 1: is gonna be on specials and then also is a

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Speaker 1: backup player at the safety position here injuries happen, even

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Speaker 1: bigger dude, it's something. Yeah, he can be there. That

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Speaker 1: sub blearning backer guy behind came so to me, I

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Speaker 1: think we don't talk enough about who are your backups.

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Speaker 1: Bill Parcels used to do an outstanding job when he

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Speaker 1: spoke to us in the media to say, hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: always churning the bottom of the roster. You always have

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Speaker 1: gonna have to go to the bottom of your roster

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Speaker 1: for guys to make some plays and help you win

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Speaker 1: some football games. Here and not picking on the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs, but just pointing out because this is, you know,

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Speaker 1: the the latest example of what we saw. They lose

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Speaker 1: their two starting tackles and they had to put a

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Speaker 1: guard at tackle in the Super Bowl, and then they

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Speaker 1: had to take another backup tackling Mike Rimmers who's an

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Speaker 1: older player, and put him out there and they got

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Speaker 1: eight up by Tampa Bett a party. It's imperative that

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Speaker 1: you have backups that can can play Cameron Brake was

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Speaker 1: a backup. Remember now they signed Rob Gronkowski, that Cameron Bread,

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Speaker 1: and then they also had used the first round pick

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when the big kid out

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Speaker 1: out of Alabama. Well, Oj ends up getting hurt, and

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Speaker 1: so now Break becomes the starter with Gronk coming on

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Speaker 1: and playing, and you know, Gronk had to touchdown the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But just you know, unique depth, because I

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Speaker 1: remember a lot of people thinking that. I thought at first, well,

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Speaker 1: if you've got Bread and you've got Oj and it

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Speaker 1: got Gronk, I mean, that's too many dudes. But guess

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Speaker 1: what they needed all three of those tight ends. And

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Speaker 1: tight ends are a big part of how Tom Brady's

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Speaker 1: had a success through the years. So the back of

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Speaker 1: the back end of your roster and some guys that

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Speaker 1: you may think are third teams, this is important. So

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Speaker 1: I look at the Cowbirs, I just huge. I like what.

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Speaker 1: I like what they're doing. It's not flashy, Okay, it's

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Speaker 1: not the big free agent signing that a lot of

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Speaker 1: people want it. But I just look here and I

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Speaker 1: just say, Okay, this can make sense. This can make sense.

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Speaker 1: Neil makes sense, Kaz makes it. Curse it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking at. And we've seen we've seen

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Speaker 1: how injuries can affect this team. Last year, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we had guys go out and left in right and

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Speaker 1: we put Hoosh Posh an offensive linemen together. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we were playing fantasy football. Let's move Zach marked over here.

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Speaker 1: We can you know, put me out this year, we

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Speaker 1: can put Williams here and then you know, eventually they

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Speaker 1: jailed and they gather it together towards the end of

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Speaker 1: the season. But like you said, those those depth pieces,

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Speaker 1: they're very valuable and they're not the flash like, oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness, they acquired this guy, can't believe that we're

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Speaker 1: going to the super Bowl. Then, not those type of

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Speaker 1: flashy picks. But they come in handy because football is

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Speaker 1: a violent, violent sport and there's a long one and

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Speaker 1: they're they're thinking about adding another game to it. So

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Speaker 1: injuries happen. Injuries happen all over the NFL, and to

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Speaker 1: have depth pieces like this on your team, it comes

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Speaker 1: in value. And hopefully these guys or be able to

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Speaker 1: take advantage of that. But I mean, we need, we

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Speaker 1: need these death pieces, and I'm glad they signed these pieces. Overall,

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Speaker 1: a valuable piece of an offensive Line's a free agent,

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Speaker 1: so so we'll see xactly he's a free agent. Yea,

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Speaker 1: his market is and where he goes. Remember and you

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Speaker 1: Cowboys signed Dion Sanders. So they signed Dion Sanders. They

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl team. But Larry became the third quarter went

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Speaker 1: You're starting corners. Pump ends up getting hurt, so Smith

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Speaker 1: is out for the year. Larry Brown has to come

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Speaker 1: in and play and ends up, you know, with the

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Speaker 1: game winning interception of Super Bowl thirty. Had two picks

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Speaker 1: in that in that thing, and that's Larry ended up

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Speaker 1: getting paid by the Raiders. But that's that thing about death.

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Speaker 1: You just you have to try to find it where

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Speaker 1: you can. Um. Mike McCarthy made news yesterday when he

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Speaker 1: told the media Tyrone Crawford, after nine seasons, is going

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Speaker 1: to stop playing football and retire thirty one years old.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy you played with church. Your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford calling it a Christian man, what a great dude.

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Speaker 1: I mean, though I know we kind of got out

638
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: got after him a little bit during the season because

639
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: of his productivity. But I mean, over all, this guy

640
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: has had a heck of a career. Man. I mean,

641
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: he's in the trenches, down in and down now that

642
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: he was a third round pick, and from the beginning

643
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: when he came to the Dallas Cowboys, he had that

644
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: just that dog mentality, the guy that you want to

645
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: go into the fight with, the guy that you want

646
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: to go to war with, will have you back. That's

647
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: the type of guy he is. And he did all

648
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: the dirty work down there. He got all the double teams.

649
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: He kind of when when Officer Blenden weren't able to

650
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: get up to the second level. He was a reason

651
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: that Jay Lennon and Sean and twenty and eighteen they

652
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: were able to run sideline the sideline because he was

653
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: that guy that did all the dirty work for him.

654
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't have a lot of shacks or

655
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, tackles, for loss, for all

656
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: that stuff. But the guy is a solid teammate and

657
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: he was a solid player, and I'm glad his career

658
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: he was able to play with one team and that's

659
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: something that a lot of players aren't able to do.

660
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: They're not able to do the whole distance with one team,

661
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: and he was able to do that. And like I said,

662
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: he was a great captain, great team leader, and he

663
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: was an amazing locker room guy. I mean, this guy,

664
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: he would give you the shirt office back if he could.

665
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: So great career. Salute to that man. He had a

666
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: hell of a career. And I'm looking forward to seeing

667
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: what he does post football because he's an intelligent man,

668
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: So I want to see what he could do post football.

669
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: But hell of a career for Tylan Crawford. So Crawford

670
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: is not going to be a member of Cowboys anymore.

671
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: He was a free agent. Sean Lee is also free.

672
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: McCarthy yesterday said that they were still having conversations and

673
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: basically said that there's nothing's been decided in Stone about

674
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: Sean Lee. But to me, when I just look at

675
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: the kind of roster space they had and the money

676
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: that you had to commit when you bring in a

677
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: veteran player like Sean Lee. I don't see how he

678
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: has a role because you brought in Keyan O'Neill, who

679
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: they said, and there's a McCarthy's words, he's going to

680
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: start in the linebacker room. So I'm thinking right out

681
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: of the gate, all right, you've got vander Esh, you've

682
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: got Smith, you got Neil. If you bring back Sean Lee,

683
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: where does he fit in? And this other key component

684
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: I had to keep trying to stress to fans, Sean

685
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: Lee's not a guy that's gonna play special teams? Can

686
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: you for to have a guy on your football team

687
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: who has two things to work again, three things work

688
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: in some one age two his ability and to stay healthy,

689
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: and three doesn't play specials. I just don't see how

690
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: you can do that. Yeah, you're right. I just can't

691
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: see just the special teams part of it. Because he's

692
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: the guy that's gonna be on the active roster. He'd

693
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: be dressing right there. You're only allowed to dress, I

694
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: believe with forty six or that was the old rule.

695
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: But he's another guy that's just gonna take up a

696
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: roster spot. And I mean, this is a hell of

697
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: a guy. A hell of a team may help a

698
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: coach out there, but that's the spot that you can

699
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: bring in somebody who can you can help out on

700
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: special teams, who can go out there and run on punt,

701
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: run on kickoff, block on kickoff return, do all those

702
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: things and add a depth piece for the linebacker unit,

703
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: like like a Luke Gifford somebody like that. So to me,

704
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: if he were to come on there, if they were

705
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: to bring him back, I mean, it'd just be filling

706
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: up a roster spot. And I just don't think they

707
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: need to do that. I think they're still talking because

708
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: maybe maybe he was they want him to come back

709
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: and coach. I'm not sure people wants to go that route,

710
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: but you know, they just don't want to burn bridges.

711
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: So we'll see what goes on with Sean. But as

712
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: far as bringing him back as a part of the

713
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: team on the football team, apt I just can't see

714
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: it happened. I just can't see it. And I also

715
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: think that the Cowboys will make some type of move

716
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: in the draft. And when you just look at contract situations,

717
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: here's something that you in my opinion, you look at

718
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: where guys are, then I think you have to try

719
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: to look to to bring in other guys. Jimmy John's

720
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: always you say, hey, I'm trying to draft your replacement.

721
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: So we know Jalen Smith's contract the team after this season,

722
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: they're done with the guaranteed money, so they could move

723
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: on from Jalen. Then you've got Laton Vanderesh next year

724
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: if they pick up if they pick up his fifth

725
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: year option, and they've got to make this decision a

726
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: little bit later on this year. That I don't know. Man,

727
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 1: they I expect them to do it. Okay, I expect

728
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: I expect them to because it's what they do. Man.

729
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: Fear the unknown, the fear of the unknown has always

730
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: been something that that has that's hurt Jerry Jones in

731
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: my opinion, thinking, you know what, and we tell you said,

732
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: they hold lot of guys a lot longer than they should.

733
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: So without having a replacement for him, I think they

734
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: just go ahead and pay the number. You pay the number. Now,

735
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: Now here's the question. This is the bigger question. It's

736
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: much more than the fifth year. It's doesn't get a

737
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: second contract because Vanderess get a second number. That's the

738
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: bigger question. And I just think he's gotta play all sixteen.

739
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: He's gotta I think he if he if he can

740
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: get back to that that rookie year. But I mean

741
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: when you as a player, when you got an injury

742
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: like that, like that, that injury, it's subconsciously in the

743
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 1: back yend mind, it's always gonna message. It's always gonna

744
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: be there, like I don't want to stick my head

745
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: too far in there. And at the position he plays,

746
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: he can be banging each in every down with a big,

747
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: three headed pound lineman coming at you, and subconsciously you're

748
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: always gonna be like, oh, let me make sure I

749
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: got my neck out of there. It is not going

750
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: to let you be that explosive player that you once were.

751
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: So for me one, he has to play all sixteen

752
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: and he has to get back to that playmaking mentality,

753
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: which I'm not sure he's gonna be able to do

754
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: so for me, you know, but you gotta figure out

755
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: if you're picking up before the season. So that's a

756
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: tough call, man, That's a tough PHLL. At this point

757
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: in time, just knowing their history of what they've done

758
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: and what they have done, I believe that they'll pick

759
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: up the fifth year option on Latin bands Also, I

760
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: do believe we could see the Cowboys use a top

761
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: one of their top three picks because remember they've got

762
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: i mean got top four picks on a linebacker. You know,

763
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: they've got a first round pick, a second round picking,

764
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: two third round picks. I'm just I'm just looking at

765
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: them using one of these picks on a linebacker that

766
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: they believe can cover. I look at a guy like

767
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: a chassa ride at North Carolina. He's not listed as

768
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: one of your top linebacker. You're the one of these

769
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: not listens, you know, like Michael Parsons. But here's a

770
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: guy that you can start to look and say, can

771
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: he fit our scheme? And sad as a kid who

772
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: can play it used to be a quarterback, which is interesting.

773
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: He started off as a quarterback and then he became

774
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: a linebacker. And that's somebody that when he said why

775
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: can he cover, it's like because he knows, he knows

776
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: what he's seeing. I think that's an advantage for a

777
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: player on defense, like, Okay, I know what I'm seeing here,

778
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: um so so we'll see, you'll see. But but I

779
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: just think that when you started going to look into

780
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: your linebacking corps you've got to start to address this

781
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: and think long term here, because you've got injury questions

782
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: with Van daresh Um, You've got is Jalen Smith going

783
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: to be be what you want him to be? And

784
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: then you've got Neil who's also limited as well. You

785
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: at some point in time you'd like to get yourself

786
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: a Devin Bush type of guy when you're on your

787
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: full party. And those injury questions, to me, they blow

788
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: my mind here with the Cowboys, like we always either

789
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: drafting or bringing in gays with previous injuries. Look at

790
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: our whole defense right now. I mean, Jaylen Smith, even

791
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: though he's played a lot, he's had an injury history,

792
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: LB Ego, the injury history. We're bringing in Kaz who's

793
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: coming off in a Kittles saying what ked on new?

794
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we're just fielding a defense full of injured,

795
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: injury prone players and it's scary. It's scary. That's why

796
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: I hope this defense, this draft, we use it to

797
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: stop filing defense man because we got a lot of

798
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: guys out there with injury history, and we saw what

799
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: happens if what an't two guys go down. This whole

800
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: ship can see so It was tough, but we gotta hit,

801
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: and we gotta hit defensively in this draft, which goes

802
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: back to my thing about a guy like Sean Lee,

803
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: that injury thing and not playing special teams. You simply

804
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: can't have that on your football team. And at a

805
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: certain point in time, you've got to start to look

806
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: at players. And I go back to another thing Bill

807
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: Parcels used to say, are you a progress stopper? You

808
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: bring in some of these guys, you bring them back,

809
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: they're they're stopping the progress of a younger guy to

810
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: see exactly what the smith and what can they do

811
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: for you? And that was that was one of the

812
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: guys I was gonna Alden Smith, you're blocking the progress.

813
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: See exactly what else can Randy Gregory be? What else

814
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: can doorn Armstrong being, Um, you need to see this.

815
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: I thought that Jason Witten's last year with the Cowboys,

816
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: he was blocking the progress to see more of Jake,

817
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: of what we can see from Blake Jarwin that we

818
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: needed to see more. Um, you've got You've got to

819
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: at some point in time just say, all right, you

820
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: know an older player, thank you. We need to move

821
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: on to a younger guy because we need to see.

822
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: And if you get to see earlier what a younger

823
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: guy can do, then you can make a decision that

824
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: may be smart enough that you can sign the player

825
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: to a contract with more favorable terms before that, you know,

826
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: and that you can project. So I just look at

827
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: some of these moves and some of these guys and

828
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: just say, are you a progress stopper for the Dallas

829
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: Cowboy and all that? We need to move on from you.

830
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: And you can't forget the whole salary cap thing. Luke

831
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: Gifford is going to be a cheaper player for you

832
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: than Sean Lee and Luke Gifford is to be teams

833
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: and that's what Sean Lee can't do. Right, So, if

834
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: you're not one of my top three guys, my fourth

835
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: linebacker can't be that dude that that's there. You know,

836
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: it's like your third running back. Your third running back

837
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: can't be a dude that's not out there playing special teams.

838
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: You just can't have that, can't do it, can't be

839
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: on the team. Yeah. So so that is to me

840
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: a real, a real big deal. There By the way,

841
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: we got breaking news Dolphins trading and a number three

842
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: pick to the forty nine ers for the number twelve pick.

843
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: There's also some other things in there, But how about that,

844
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: that's some breaking news and just see Dolphins go from

845
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: um yes. And here's what I hate about that, because

846
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: I was just talking with somebody the other day about

847
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I said, I think number ten could be

848
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: in play if Jerry Jones wanted it to be, because

849
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Speaker 1: if the quarterbacks are moving like we think they could move,

850
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: somebody will want to come in at ten because you've

851
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: got plenty of teams that are behind the Cowboys that

852
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: are looking at a quarterback. And I mentioned the forty

853
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: nine ers at twelve. I mentioned the New England at fifteen.

854
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: I think the raid are just sitting here around seventeen.

855
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: The Bears are at twenty, so the Cowboys could have

856
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: some options. So that Niners option is off the table

857
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: here for Them's a smart move. Smart move by Miami.

858
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 1: Look at it this way, Barry. You're you're now saying

859
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: two is okay? Two was okay with it? We want

860
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: to saying he's the guy. You're saying he's the man. Yeah,

861
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: and you don't have to pay that price tag of

862
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: a number three pick. And then of course they got

863
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: other stuff here too, So um wow, so that just happened.

864
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: That just happen right here doing the players like, yes,

865
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: and if you do, jim all right, So if the

866
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: forty man is going up to three, they're going to

867
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: have to a quarterback. They're getting one of those early guys,

868
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: maybe the kid from b YU or Trade Lads, one

869
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: of those. They're getting one of those games. So Jimmy G.

870
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: Jimmy G's on his way out there now that you

871
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: think it's going to reunite, reunite, reunite with thell over

872
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: in New England because they got him for the chief,

873
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: so they ain't like, you know, if they don't cam

874
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: to get they're getting hit with all this cap and

875
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: didn't money or anything like that because they got him

876
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: on a relativity cheap deals three Jim Yeah, I could

877
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: seem they should be Jimmy Jim over to New England.

878
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: He's been in love. He wanted him to be the

879
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: Aaron parent, you know, before Tom Brady said he got

880
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: to get out of here. But I can see that

881
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: easily happening in a way that things up now that

882
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: I mean, all right here, here's what it is according

883
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: to NFL Network. Uh Dolphins Niners make this trade. So

884
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: if the forty nine ers get the third pick in

885
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: the draft while Miami gets number twelve, they get a

886
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: three and a future number one source I may say

887
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: in the future number future number one source confirmed by

888
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter. So what a fantastic deal for Miami. You

889
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: go from three to twelve, You're gonna get yourself a

890
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: future number one pick, and you get a three right there,

891
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: and you get to cut down costs. Adam Schefter also

892
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: forty nine ers are now square in the mix, but

893
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: they're holding on a Jimmy Garoppolo and half no plans

894
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: to trade him, per sources, So they may say we

895
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: want to go back. Um, well, okay, I'll throw it

896
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: out there this way. Jimmy's making money. I think it's

897
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: like twenty two I heard something like that. So that's

898
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: not crazy money for a starter because of the way

899
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: you have the salary cap down, you could fit two

900
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in for this price. Or you're doing to me,

901
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: what should you say? You should say, I'm holding on

902
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: to Jimmy Garoppolo because you want to get something better

903
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: for You're basically saying, all right, give me a real offer.

904
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,959
Speaker 1: If you want the guy show me something. So this

905
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: is you can you can get you a bid any

906
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: more out there. Let's see what happened to Jimmy. Jimmy's

907
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: a solid que when healthy. You know, he's a solid

908
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: quarter that he did just leave that team to the

909
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So I mean, I'm not sure somebody would

910
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: get him as a four number one, like they wouldn't

911
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: pay a trade the first round pigermuting like that for him.

912
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: But you can get you can get some solid death

913
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: pieces for Jimmy. G all right, let's take a break. Um,

914
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 1: let's get into the draft with the Cowboys here, because

915
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: now that they've made some moves, let's project what we

916
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 1: think they could do at ten. And also the offensive

917
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: line got a touch upon that as well, and that's

918
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Speaker 1: this is the beauty of doing this show. Here. We

959
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: just find out that found out that the Miami Dolphins

960
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: are in forty nine ers and made a trade in

961
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: the first round forty nine ers going from twelve to three.

962
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 1: They're also going to send a future number one pick

963
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: two the Miami Dolphins, and Miami is going to get

964
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: their third rounder this year. That story broken by Adam Schefter,

965
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: also confirmed by Ian Rappaport of NFL dot Com. Church

966
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: in this Dame, you do not trade from twelve to

967
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: three to take tackle or a lot that you do

968
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,479
Speaker 1: it for either a pass rusher or a quarterback. They're

969
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: gonna go get a quarterback. And I believe this is

970
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: just my opinion that quarterback is justin fields of Ohio sticked.

971
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: I would have to agree with you on that one,

972
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: and I think so because if you think, if you

973
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: look back at it, I mean a lot of people

974
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: were trying to link the Shawn Watson and Mike and

975
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: Mike Shanahana out there in forty nine or Land, and

976
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: they would say how he would become an incidant MVP

977
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: and this, that and the third about him, And if

978
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: you look at it, I mean justin fields. I'm not

979
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: saying he's a Shaun Watson, but they have a similar

980
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: skill set. They're both athletic, they both have huge arms,

981
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: They're kind of this playmaker type quarterback. So they both

982
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: had those same type of type of skill set. And

983
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: I believe if the forty nine ers go up there

984
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: and they grab him, I think they can get the

985
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: most out of him, and he could be one of those,

986
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: you know, one of those top rookie quarterbacks coming out.

987
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: So I don't I can see it happening. I can

988
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: see them going to get field justin Fields rather than

989
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, the kid from BYU or the kid from

990
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: a trade as to get from out the Dakota States.

991
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: So I can see that that Fields happening for sure. Well,

992
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: if we look at Trevor Lawrence going um number one

993
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville BYU quarterback or one number two to the Jets,

994
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: and that leaves you fields. I And this is just me,

995
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't look when I look at Fields,

996
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: I don't see Watson. I really see more of a

997
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: polished Dak Prescott in college. I think that Dak Prescott

998
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: played at a school like Ohio State, where you had

999
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: so many more folks around you versus Mississippi State. I

1000
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: think Dak could have had that same type of effect

1001
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: in terms of being a player that could lead a

1002
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: team to the college football playoff. You know, go to

1003
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: big time bowl game, Um, Mississippi State. You know, you're

1004
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: just limited by so much of what you what you

1005
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: have around you. You know, they're not a school that's

1006
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 1: gonna be in that national championship conversation. Um, it's just tough.

1007
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: And I know he made him number one when he

1008
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: was there, but you know he was doing so much

1009
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: on his own getting a little help out there. I

1010
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: think he's more justin fields. I think fields at this

1011
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: point because it was an accurate passer and dad coming

1012
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: out of Mississippi State, DA's improved upon that. But but

1013
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: I just kind of look at, hey, what do I

1014
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: project justin fields as I think he can be in

1015
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: that Dak Prescott conversation. That's how I look at look

1016
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: at him. So to me, I think that's what the

1017
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: forty nine ers do at three. So let's just keep

1018
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: talking about the draft. Right now, we're expecting three quarterbacks

1019
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: to go. There's no way they don't take Trevor Lawrence

1020
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville. The reason I say, b why they take

1021
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: the by quarterback? I think that you know they're gonna

1022
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: look at Zach and then if you take Zach Wilson,

1023
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: you don't have to pay him as much money as

1024
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: you would have to pay Sam Donald. You know, Sam

1025
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: Donald's contracts is going up there. You can get you

1026
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: can get the kid from b y U and pay

1027
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: a lot less money and not have to make this

1028
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: decision as quick on a second contract. So I can

1029
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: see that happening. And then the forty nine ers take

1030
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: take fields right there. So that's quarterbacks one, two three.

1031
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: The Cowboys here sitting at ten. So as you see

1032
00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks go, this pushes down talent towards you. The boys, ah,

1033
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: here we go, are sitting in a position that they

1034
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: could and should be able to take a top corner

1035
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: at ten. Patrick Sutan from Alabama, the SEC Defensive Player

1036
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: of the Year who came in second for the Jim

1037
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: Thorpe Award. Patrick Sutan ran this week. He ran a

1038
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: four point four two forty yard dash. He's six ft two,

1039
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: two hundred eight pounds. Patrick's tan a second. His dad

1040
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: played the league. This is a guy that you hear

1041
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: the word technician a lot of times. You're like, hey,

1042
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: he's not super brady than any one thing, but he

1043
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: just does everything well. Church, your take on that player

1044
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: and this and a forty yard time. Look, I've been

1045
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: beating the desk. I love this kid. This is who

1046
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: I think we need to get our fenth overall pick.

1047
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: Pair him with his former Alabama our teammate over there

1048
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: and dig and I think we have a set secondary.

1049
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: We got the veteran guy that can control the defense

1050
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 1: back there in Kaz, who's been in dan Quinn's system.

1051
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: So I think it's only right that we get that

1052
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: other book and corner, and I pray that we get

1053
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: this guy and we do not go after, you know,

1054
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: a flashy offensive pick like the tight end out of Florida,

1055
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. I keep hearing this name come up, and

1056
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: it's momentum. I understand. I understand. This guy is a

1057
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: freak of nature. He's a mismatched nightmare, and supposedly he

1058
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: can just elevate your offense automatically when he gets in here.

1059
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: But we already have an explosive offense. We get all

1060
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: quarterback one back, we get we arguably top five. I

1061
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: would say, as far as we're our receiver Trio and

1062
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, CD Lamb and Cooper out there, we got.

1063
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: We just played Blake Jarlin. He's coming off with an

1064
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: ACL but to back him up, we had Dalton Shoultz.

1065
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: Here's no scrub out there. So for me, we have

1066
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 1: so many offensive weapons, and that's not even to mention

1067
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott in the backfield. We have so many offensive

1068
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: weapons already to pass the ball around. I don't think

1069
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: we have that luxury of going after an offensive guy

1070
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: like Kyle Pitts when we have so many knees defensively.

1071
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: And I think if we go after Certain, will it

1072
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: fix the whole defense to make us a top ten defense. No,

1073
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: but I think it will solidify that secondary, and that's

1074
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: one step closer to getting where this defense needs to be.

1075
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: If there was a flag, if there was a great

1076
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: defensive lineman, then go earlier than that. I would pick

1077
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: him because I believe going you build your defenses from

1078
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: the front to the back. But there's not that guy

1079
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: out there. I don't see a guy who can affect

1080
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: the pastor and rush the pastor as good as Certain

1081
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: can play corner. So for me, I gotta go Certatin

1082
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: right there, solidify the secondary, and let's get it rolling

1083
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: for there. As long as we do not go offensive

1084
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,479
Speaker 1: or first pick, I'll be even if it's not certain.

1085
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 1: As long as we're gonna go offensive, I'll be good.

1086
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: We just can't keep chasing this we gotta put up

1087
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: thirty five forty five fifty five points a game. When

1088
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: our defense is given up thirty five forty five fifty

1089
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: five points. We gotta start somewhere on the defensive side

1090
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: of the ball. We can't keep pushing it back saying, oh,

1091
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: we'll dress the outside of the ball later, we'll dress

1092
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: out side of the ball later. We gotta put down

1093
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball. And I think it

1094
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: starts with certain So hopefully that's our number, our tenth overall.

1095
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: Pick what you think the league. You're preaching to the water,

1096
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: You and I are singing the same hymn. No. I

1097
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: want to also bring in the name J. C. Horn

1098
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: a quarter out of South Carolina. He ran this week.

1099
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: He ran a four point three nine. He's six foot one,

1100
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: two hundred and five pounds. Six gms were at his workout,

1101
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: so basically had a lot of gems who were in

1102
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: Tuscaloosa Atabama Pro Day and hopped on over to Columbia,

1103
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 1: South Carolina to check out the Gamecocks pro Day. There

1104
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: are some folks who believe that J. C. Horn has

1105
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: is a better player. I look at J. C. Horne

1106
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 1: and I think he's good he's good, but I love

1107
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: that certain is more certain. You know, I don't need

1108
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: super flash right, who could come out here? Right? He's polished,

1109
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: He's played on a championship team. We looked at what

1110
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: Diggs did last year and I believe overall we say

1111
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: you know what for what he was asked to do

1112
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: and a messy defense. This guy was your leading interceptor

1113
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: and his teammate was better player at Alabama than him.

1114
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: I think that could be a solid duo and you

1115
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: can at least start someplace. But j C. Horn, your

1116
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: thoughts on him. If the Cowboys saying, hey, we like

1117
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: this player, better see I gotta watch more film on

1118
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: jac Horn. I gotta see where he's at because you

1119
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: gotta be see the workout warrior. I'm always nervous about

1120
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: a guys that post reads ridiculous numbers and they're like

1121
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: workout warriors, but when they get to the field, it

1122
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 1: doesn't really add up. I mean, look at the guy

1123
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: from Yukon that came out after Byron. He was just

1124
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: I forget it. I don't want to butcher his last name.

1125
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, he was a workout warrior. Combat

1126
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: he had you know, he's running this he's jumping that

1127
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: he dook like a Greek guy, and then when he

1128
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: got to Hope, he just couldn't play the position. So

1129
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying J C. Horne is that So I

1130
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: gotta do my more more studying him. As far as

1131
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: film is concerned. He could got workout Warriors like that.

1132
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: Okay A Cooper knew he's saying he could play. Then, Look,

1133
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: I still would go through with Certain because just the

1134
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 1: pedigree alone. He has that dad. He's played ten plus

1135
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: years in the NFL. He's had that pedigree since a kid.

1136
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: Basically what a defensive back and supposed to do. He

1137
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: can play zone, he can play man. He's physical in

1138
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: the running game, which a lot of corners aren't nowadays.

1139
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: But he will stick his nose in there as a

1140
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: corner and he has the eyes for the ball. So

1141
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: for me, I'm still going with from still both with

1142
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: Certain at ten, but j C. Warn, I mean, he's

1143
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: an impressive player. Like I said, I got to do

1144
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: more film studdying on him, But I'm still going Certain

1145
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: at ten. I think about the great Ozzie Knews him

1146
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: and how he ran his drafts in Baltimore, how Ozzie

1147
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: was so consistent with his first over his first picks

1148
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: in the first round, and it was really simple. I'm

1149
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna go out here, get a really solid player. We're

1150
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: not gonna make a mistake. This is a guy who's

1151
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: gonna come in here and he's gonna start. What would

1152
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: Ozzie do? What would Ozzie knew him do? If he

1153
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: were drafting at ten for the Dallas Cowboys, he would

1154
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: take Patrick's ten. He would he would just check off

1155
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: all these boxes and it would say, you know, it's

1156
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a heck of a solid player that we

1157
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: can sit up here and plug him in here and

1158
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: he can get to a second contract. And that's something

1159
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: that I don't know if people think about it though.

1160
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 1: The second contract is really where they may the money,

1161
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: and this is where it really pays off of you that, Hey,

1162
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, we're now sitting here thinking we're gonna get

1163
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: about nine or ten years out of a player. And

1164
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: if you can get nine or ten years out of

1165
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: a player, then that shows that you drafted well and

1166
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: that the player lived up to the standards you want it,

1167
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: and you gave him a second contract. I look at

1168
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: Patrick's r tan as a second contract guy Caleb Farley

1169
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: was a name linked to the Cowboys the Corner out

1170
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: of Virginia Tech. We find out this week that he

1171
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: needs a other back surgery. His agent, Drew Rosenhouse, says

1172
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: that he will conveniently be ready for training camp at

1173
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: the end of July. He also had an ACL that

1174
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: he tour while he was in college, so it's a

1175
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: second back surgery. There's some people who are saying maybe

1176
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys should take him at pick forty four. So

1177
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: let's say the Cowboys go they go a different direction.

1178
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: Let's say they take an offensive tack or they take

1179
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: Kyle Pits, they take an offensive player at ten, and

1180
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,720
Speaker 1: then here they are sitting at four four and Caleb

1181
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: Farty at Virginia Tech is there, Barry. Would you feel

1182
00:56:55,200 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: comfortable if they pulled the trigger. No, no not because

1183
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: to me, like, look if we if he's at forty four, No, no,

1184
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: there's no way, because that means we have taking an

1185
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: offensive guy in the first round and we just cannot

1186
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: do that. But back to the Farley pick, I just

1187
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: don't I don't like bringing in gas with injury history.

1188
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: He's yet to play a down in the NFL. You

1189
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: say you at an acl he's going through a back

1190
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: surgery now he plays in the secondary. I don't I'm not.

1191
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: I'm not comfortable bringing in the guy like that, who's

1192
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: been who's that injury history. We just talked about it earlier.

1193
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: With this defense I've named Lvee Jalen Smith. I mean,

1194
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: there's plenty guys on there who have already had injuries.

1195
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: We got it. We're fielding kian O'Neil, Casey's coming off

1196
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: and Achilles. We're fielding a defense full of injury prone guys.

1197
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: And I just don't want to bring in another injury

1198
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,959
Speaker 1: prone raum. Who's gonna miss if there is who's gonna

1199
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: miss OTAs and in the early mini camp because he's

1200
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 1: not gonna be ready till training camp. Then you gotta

1201
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: get him up the speed he has to get back

1202
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: into shape. I just don't see that. I just don't

1203
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: like that project right now for the Cowboys. Stick with

1204
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: certain at ten. I'm telling he's the answer. Oh, by

1205
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: the way, came Leop Farley didn't play last year. He

1206
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: sat it out, So to me, it all adds up

1207
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: to too many risks. At forty four, the Cowboys have

1208
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: tried this thing with injured players before. Look, Sean Lee

1209
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: came from Penn State, dealt with injury and dealt with

1210
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: him his whole career. They bring in Jalen Smith, who

1211
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: basically had to sit out here. Well not basically, he

1212
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: had to sit out his whole first year with the

1213
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. I don't believe if I'm Mike, if I'm

1214
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy right now, I don't want to take anybody

1215
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: here may potentially had to sit or I can't count on.

1216
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: They need walk in starters in the first and second

1217
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: round in my opinion, these two picks, and maybe even

1218
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: the third round, you need to get people who can

1219
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: walk in here and help your football team, especially on defense.

1220
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: So Farley is a guy. To me, I'm not just

1221
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: taking them out of the first round and the second

1222
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: round of the Cowboys. I'm taking them off by board period.

1223
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: I just don't want the player right now. To me,

1224
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: it's just too much of a risk. And we've seen

1225
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,959
Speaker 1: them do this. Bruce Carter came, he had injury history,

1226
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: and they just missed on these second round picked so

1227
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: many times in my opinion that I just feel like

1228
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: you need to just make a solid pick, a solid

1229
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: pick somebody who can play. So if it's Greg Newsom

1230
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: of Northwest Northwestern, who's there, then take that guy if

1231
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: that's where you go. So I was just just my

1232
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: take there by the way, Church, I forgot to tell you, man,

1233
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: I went to the Star this week. Our boy Shannon

1234
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: hooked us up. Okay, we got the Snickers Snickers peanut brownies. Um,

1235
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: I gotta I got something I could take to your house.

1236
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: So I got I got one bottle, fly get something.

1237
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing to snackle. This is crazy. Oh

1238
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: this is I'm gonna tell you too. Man. It's really good.

1239
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: It's really I had something yesterday and then it hooked

1240
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: up my little one and we went to the library.

1241
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: I said, hey, I got something for you, and she's like, oh,

1242
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: this is good. This is good. I said, yes, it's

1243
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: really good. So I'm like, man, make sure I let

1244
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: Church know so I could swing by the man Chin

1245
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: and drop it on off to you. Drop some off

1246
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: to you so you can bribe your kids to tell

1247
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: the they get you to get some of this. And

1248
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: it's good, man, And they say ninety calories per square.

1249
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: Not that I cared, but uh, it's pretty good. So

1250
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: this uh delicious. Let me get out of Yes, thank you,

1251
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: we can do yes, yes, so good on that, good

1252
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: on that? Uh you get out of here. Um. Mike

1253
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: McCarthy spoke about and he said, cool. My primary focus

1254
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: is the defense. And I did ask him about the

1255
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: draft and drafted some defensive players and trying to fix

1256
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: this draft. He said, you know what, Yes, I expect

1257
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: us to take some players. I also asked Hi about

1258
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: his offensive line. Hey, what's the health of Tyrn Smith

1259
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: and Lell Collins? He said, Lell Collins was just out

1260
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: there working Thursday morning. He said he's coming along fine, said,

1261
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: Tyrant Smith is fine. He said they didn't have any

1262
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: issues right now with their veteran players coming back from injury,

1263
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: so he expects them to be fine. I said, what

1264
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: about retooling this old line? He said, we just gotta

1265
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: get healthy. He said, if we could just be here,

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Speaker 1: then we're good. But it was time go ahead. But

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Speaker 1: at the same time, we know they've had issues with

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Speaker 1: health from Collins and from Smith. We know that, so

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Speaker 1: there we go. Go go ahead. Look, I know you know,

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Speaker 1: through the through the years, you know everything kind of

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Speaker 1: Tyren Smith has not been able to finish a full

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Speaker 1: season in a while. But I believe that's gonna change. Man,

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Speaker 1: at least I'm hoping it's gonna change. This is a

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Speaker 1: guy he went down earlier in the season. He's had

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Speaker 1: the whole whole season, whole off season to get back, right,

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Speaker 1: McCarthy saying he's in great moods. You've seen him. He

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Speaker 1: posted something about being in great spirits a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. So I feel like he's gonna come back,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully we get that that old Tyren Smith that

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Speaker 1: can play sixteen, that can play the whole thing, because

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Speaker 1: if we have him there, if we have our two

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Speaker 1: tackles on an outside protecting, I feel like that opens

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Speaker 1: up an officer a lot, gets Dak Prescott a hell

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Speaker 1: of a more a lot more time back there to

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Speaker 1: do damage, and I think it benefits the whole team.

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Speaker 1: But they gotta stay healthy, and I think this is

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Speaker 1: the year that they could play all sixteen. I go

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Speaker 1: back to what we said to Danny, you pray when

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Speaker 1: he's been on the show. Who Danny, it's an offensive

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Speaker 1: tackle a ten And I'm like the Cowboys drafted a tackle.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not for the Cowboys drafting and tackle in

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Speaker 1: the first round if you want to use one later on,

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Speaker 1: here go ahead. The Cowboys found third round picks and

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Speaker 1: did well in their offensive lines. I like to add

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Speaker 1: Eric Williams, who was an All Pro player and all

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl team. So that's what I'm looking at.

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Speaker 1: Do it later on, David Battieri fantastic tackle with the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers is a fourth round pick. You can

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Speaker 1: find some guys and laid rounds and do it there.

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Speaker 1: But this first round, second round, I think he got

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Speaker 1: addressed his defense. Man, I really do, dude. We're out

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Speaker 1: of time, man, I told you this hour already by here.

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Speaker 1: It is flown by here man, So good stuff. Church, Well,

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Speaker 1: thanks to the Twitter follower who told me I said

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Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas and said at Dennis Thurman, So thank you

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