1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Levels to This is an iHeart women's sports production in 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, what's going on? Everyone? 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 3: Welcome to Levels to This. I am Trerika Foster Brass. 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: V and I'm your girl, Ryl Swoop. So are you're 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: excited to be here? 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: We are? 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: Yes, Please make some noise, show us a love. 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: We are a very fun podcast. 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: Our show is one that is super unique because we 13 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: talk about all the levels to the shit that women 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 3: go through, but we sometimes include men and so you 15 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 3: guys are very lucky to be here because you were 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: included when we include men today. So we're gonna have 17 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: a lot of fun. I'm excited to be here. I 18 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 3: know you're excited to be here. We have a very 19 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: special guest. I don't know how often this has happened before, 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: but we have Jordan Jackson joining us on the podcast today, 21 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: who is the son of Cheryl Swoops. Have you guys 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: ever been on a podcast together before? 23 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 4: Now? 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: Never? Oh, I'm about to eat this up. That's why 25 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: you're in the middle of us. That's why we're not 26 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: sitting together. I'm about to eat this up. 27 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: Okay, So, first and foremost, if you know Cheryl's story, 28 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: then you know at the beginning of her career, at 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: the beginning of the WNBA, when she was one of 30 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: the primary members to begin the first person to sign 31 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: to the WNBA. First of all, make some noise for that, 32 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: because the league wouldn't be here without the Hall of 33 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: Famer Cheryl Swoops, and that's for sure. 34 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: But very early on, Cheryl was one of the first. 35 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: To have to deal with being a mom as well 36 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 3: as being a player. And she was pregnant with this 37 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,919 Speaker 3: one right here while she was playing. And so, Cheryl, 38 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: you and I have had this conversation before, but just 39 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: kind of share with those out there what that moment 40 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: and what that time was like, especially at the beginning 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: of such. 42 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: A in a league that we had no idea would 43 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: be where it is today. 44 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 45 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I'm going to apologize for being tardy. 46 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: Y'all didn't tell me. They ain't tell me the traffic 47 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: was like that in San Francisco. 48 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just as a first of all, as 49 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: a proud mom of a now twenty seven year old 50 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: doing his own thing. I couldn't be more prouder. But 51 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: when you talk about when the W first started and 52 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: I was, I was scared, Like I was scared to 53 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: tell anybody because I didn't and it never been done right. 54 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: So I didn't know how the W was going to 55 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: deal with it. I didn't know how my sponsors were 56 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: going to deal with it. So there was a lot 57 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: of pressure on me to first of all, try to 58 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: hide it for a little bit until I told everybody. 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: But then that turned into all right, this is what 60 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: women do, right. It's part of our life, it's part 61 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: of our career, regardless of what that career is. 62 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: And I said, so this is what we're gonna do. 63 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: And I not only wanted. 64 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: To do it for myself and obviously for my son, 65 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: but for so many working women out there. And it's 66 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: not just athletes, but for so many working women out 67 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: there who struggle with career and motherhood or being parents like. 68 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: That, shit, can I say shit? We stationed on the podcast, 69 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: not today. You want to ask what we're in person? 70 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: It's different. We're recording the show. 71 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 4: Is the show? 72 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, I'll say. 73 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: Stuff though, but like it was really scary, but I 74 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: knew that it was going to be a challenge, but 75 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: I also knew that it was something that I wanted 76 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: to be able to show women everywhere that this is 77 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: what we do and you two can do it. And 78 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: so for me, like it's a full circle moment, but 79 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: because I've gone from me being the one taking my 80 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: son to All Star to now he's the one bringing 81 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: me to All Star and so it's a proud moment 82 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: for me today. 83 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: That's definitely dope. 84 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: And you won the Dunk contest last year wearing your 85 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: mom's jersey, which is bananas in and of itself. Right, 86 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: Just you know, I don't know how many times you've 87 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 3: heard the story or have heard your mom talk about 88 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: what that moment or what that time was like for her, 89 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 3: But just kind of it's a two part question. One 90 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: just seeing and understanding you know, what Chryl had to 91 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: endure it that time and how different that was. How 92 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 3: does that resonate with you and how have that maybe 93 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: changed your perspective of like working women. 94 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, great to be on the show. Yes, 95 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 5: I've been hearing a lot about the show and been 96 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 5: watching the show. 97 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 4: Love everything you guys are doing with the show. So 98 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 4: it's awesome. 99 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 5: And to answer your question, it's amazing, you know, to 100 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 5: have this woman right here to be your mother. 101 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: Oh, let me give. 102 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: Y'all a disclaimer before you finish on answer, because you 103 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 3: notice about your mama. 104 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: She's a cry baby, y'all. 105 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: She gonna cry you if you she gonna cry, So 106 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: just just bear with us. 107 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 5: No, Yeah, it's been great. You know, I get that 108 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 5: question all the time. It's just like, what is it 109 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 5: like to have Cheryl Swoops, you know, as your mom? 110 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: And I tell people this all the time. 111 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 5: It's just like she might be Cheryl'swoops to you all, 112 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 5: but that's mom to me, you know what I mean. 113 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, it's just like 114 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 5: seeing what she's done and what she's had to overcome 115 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 5: and what she's always, you know, just stayed true to 116 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 5: herself and stay true to her work, and she's trusted. 117 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 4: Her work throughout her whole career, whether that's on the 118 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 4: floor or off the floor, you know. 119 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 5: So just to have that as a role model and 120 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 5: to be able to watch, you know, what she's done 121 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 5: and what she continues to do. 122 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: When you think about, you know, having been raised in 123 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 3: an environment where you've worked with other ball players that 124 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: have been women there. You know, there was a time 125 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: where guys didn't even really realize that, like women played 126 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: basketball for real. And now there are some kids who 127 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 3: grow up in the world not even realizing anything different. 128 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 3: And that's a beautiful thing for us to be in, 129 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 3: for us to be in that space. But when you 130 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: think about, you know, your development and where you've come 131 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: from as being a ballplayer, how much of that do 132 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 3: you attribute to your mom? 133 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 4: A lot? 134 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 5: I mean, you have to I was going everywhere with her. 135 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 5: I was traveling as a young kid. I was traveling 136 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 5: to all these different countries. I was courtside at every 137 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 5: single one of her games. From things that I can remember, 138 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure that it's a lot that I cannot 139 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 5: remember because I was too young, But from what I 140 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 5: can remember, it's just it's special, you know, because I'm 141 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 5: able to go back to those moments and to relive 142 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 5: those moments, even when it might not be with her 143 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 5: right like it might be me going on YouTube looking up, 144 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 5: Oh this game, I remember this game, and now I'm 145 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 5: watching those highlights. You know, it's just special things like 146 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 5: that that I'm able to, you know, always go back 147 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 5: to and I love that. 148 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 4: I love being able to share that. 149 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: So love me. 150 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna interrupt for a second only because we did 151 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: start late and he has to get out of here. Okay, 152 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: So Jordan is trying to defend his G League Slam 153 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: Dunk title. Yes tomorrow. My question is, do you know 154 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: what you're gonna do tomorrow? 155 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: I do. 156 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 5: I've been talking to some people, talking to some friends. 157 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 5: I got some I got some tricks. I think I'm 158 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 5: gonna pull out. 159 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: Tomorrow, like you got to bring it because you wore 160 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: my jersey last year and you want it, I know, 161 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: and I didn't hear you ask for a jersey this year. 162 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: So in some type of way, this flipped real quick. 163 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: This went from the whole Cheryl sloop to the mama 164 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: asking you, bro, what you're finna do? 165 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: This is. 166 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 4: I think we're gonna be good. You know. 167 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 5: After this, I'm gonna head to the gym, figure out, 168 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 5: you know what I'm gonna do, and then one o'clock 169 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 5: tomorrow you. 170 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: See, Okay, I will be there. 171 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 4: You'll be ready. 172 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, our credit center. That's all that matters about. 173 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: Love that before you have to get out of here, though, 174 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: because I do want to ask you this. You know, 175 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: I think sometimes you feel like you can be over 176 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: not you specifically, but I know I've spoken to other 177 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: people who come sometimes may feel like they've been overshadowed 178 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: because they have a celebrity figure or an athlete figure 179 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: as their mom or their dad or whomever. Are there 180 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 3: moments where you feel and I'm going to put you 181 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: on blasts, are there moments where you feel like, you know, yes, 182 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: I love having Cheryl'soops as a mom, but also I 183 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: want to make sure it's clear this is this is Jordan, 184 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: This is what Jordan does. This is jordan legacy, This 185 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 3: is how Jordan approaches things. 186 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: To a certain extent, you can, you can kind of 187 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 4: say yes. 188 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 5: But in the past, right like when I was growing 189 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 5: up and I was not as mature as I am 190 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 5: now right mentally, not mentally strong, Yeah, that bothered me 191 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 5: because you know, sometimes I would work so hard, you know, 192 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 5: I work so hard, and the only thing that I 193 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 5: would get out of that is, hey, that's Cheryl's hoops son, 194 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 5: like you know, but now it's you know, as I 195 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 5: just stayed with the process and you know, she's just 196 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 5: my whole family, you know, sitting in the crowd, like 197 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 5: my mom, my dad, Like, it's just everybody. You know 198 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 5: that they they've always been on my side and they 199 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 5: know they know that that's probably a lot of pressure, 200 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 5: right for somebody, But as my mom always tells me, 201 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 5: like it's it's it's no pressure because you're creating your 202 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 5: own legacy, right, like your take, Like I take what 203 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 5: she's done, and I just use that to elevate myself, 204 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 5: like I don't. I don't try to do the comparison. 205 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 5: I don't listen to the I used to. Yeah, right, 206 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 5: who doesn't? 207 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 4: Right? When people talk, it's easy to fall into that. 208 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 5: But as the years went on and as as more 209 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 5: and more as I talk to my family and I 210 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 5: talk to my mom, and she's always staying in my 211 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 5: ear to just stay true to yourself, you know, and 212 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 5: to just go for who you are. 213 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: So now I still am sure swoop so of course, 214 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 4: but you know. 215 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 5: Coming out here to all start weekend, you know, walking around, 216 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 5: people are like, hey, it's Jordan. You know that's that's 217 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 5: a slam dunk chap. That's Jordan Jackson. So you know 218 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 5: it's it's it's kind of worked out good for both ways. 219 00:09:59,800 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 4: You know. 220 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: I love that I love that. 221 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: So last question, there's not a whole lot of people here, 222 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: but I tell people this all the time that everybody's 223 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: journey is different, and your journey absolutely has been a 224 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: different one. What advice would you give to someone younger person, 225 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: boy or girl who has goals and dreams of someday 226 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: playing in the NBA, playing in the WNBA, and maybe 227 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: it hasn't happened as quickly as they would like for 228 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: it to happen, because this has been your story, what advice. 229 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: Would you give them? 230 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 5: The first piece of advice, I mean, I know it 231 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 5: sounds cliche, but I would definitely say to just trust 232 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 5: yourself and it always stay true to yourself. There's so 233 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 5: many people that want to tear you down, that want 234 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 5: to see you down, So the more you do that 235 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 5: to yourself, you're just giving them ammunition. 236 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: So stay true to yourself. And number two, trust. 237 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 5: Your work, right, Like, if you're playing this game, you're 238 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 5: playing it for a reason. Yeah, right, Or if you're 239 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 5: whatever you're doing in life, like you're doing it for 240 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 5: a reason. So I'm pretty sure that you put in 241 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 5: work to it. You don't just wake up every morning 242 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 5: it's like, hey, today, I want to do. 243 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 4: This and you just go do it. No, you work 244 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: at it, you know. 245 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 5: So if you're doing that work, you have to know 246 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 5: that you're doing that work for a reason and so 247 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 5: when that time comes, you'll know. 248 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 4: You know in that work will show. 249 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 5: So those are the probably the two biggest pieces of it. 250 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 4: Well, and stay faithful, oh for sure, keep your faith 251 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 4: in it. Uh in the forefront. For sure. 252 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 5: God has gotten me through a lot of things and 253 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 5: He's he's putting me in so many great places and positions. 254 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 4: You know, like I'm sitting on the. 255 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 5: Podcast with with Ryl Swoops, like you know that's kind 256 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 5: of fire, right fire people wouldn't be able to say that. 257 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 5: So no, yeah, So those those three things right there, 258 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 5: like trust yourself, you trust your work, stay truat yourself, 259 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 5: and stay faithful always. 260 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 3: Last question for me, what are we doing after you 261 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: regain your championship next week? 262 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 5: You're doing me on the spot, I know, you know, 263 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 5: we'll see she she's a little older now, like I 264 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 5: don't want like she go to. 265 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: Bed or Okay, so when I said I'll do that, okay, 266 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: So everybody out there, when Cheryl will be on the 267 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: podcast trying to come at me, talking about ter Rika. 268 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: Why didn't you let me? Let me let me tell 269 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 2: you how to do with me? Okay, Terriica, I love 270 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: invit me? How come I get Cheryl? 271 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: When I invited you at eight fifteen you said you 272 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: was gonna go. By nine twenty you were in the bed. 273 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 5: It changes, crept it does, it does. But see the 274 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 5: thing that's gonna help, he's here. See what I'm saying, brother, brother, 275 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 5: that's fact. 276 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 4: I'm saying, brother's here. 277 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 2: So that's fact. 278 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 5: So anytime we all together, that's fat. 279 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: Y'all. 280 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 3: Make Branda out there, who always called it down, keep 281 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: it up. 282 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: Jordan's time for you to go. I love it. I'm 283 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: gonna say this last thing so you can't go. 284 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: You know, people always ask me, like throughout my career 285 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: and even now, like what's my why? 286 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: And my why? It's always the same. 287 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: My why is that one sitting right over there, Like 288 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: I couldn't be more proud of not just the basketball player, 289 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: but I couldn't be more proud of the young man 290 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: you've become. So when I say my why is. 291 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: You, she's gonna do it's your wife. 292 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 5: So on my wrist, I have, well, I got it 293 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 5: for Christmas it is. See she's trying to do trying 294 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 5: to bring it out. 295 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 296 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 5: No, so she gave me a bracelet with the footsteps 297 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 5: of my firstborn child, which will be here in July 298 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 5: twenty twenty five. 299 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 300 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: Oh, leo, oh, he's been the cut up. I'm a leo. 301 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: He about to cut I'm saying he. I know, we 302 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: don't know if it's a boy or a girl yet, 303 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: but I'm gonna say he. Well, I'm saying she, but 304 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: and you're gonna say she, I'm gonna say he. Will 305 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: see what happened, we ain't. We already know, but we 306 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: don't know. We know, but we don't know. I'm the 307 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: only one that doesn't know. And keep it that way 308 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: because I heard you are one who also doesn't know 309 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: how to like keep water. You know you've been say 310 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: I don't want to know, but then maybe a month 311 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 3: later you might side that you do want to see. 312 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 5: I thought that's what was gonna happen, Like when I 313 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 5: thought I was gonna like go through the day and 314 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 5: at the end of the day, I was gonna be like, Okay, 315 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 5: this is but I think I was okay. I think 316 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 5: I was okay. But it was because I was busy though. 317 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: It's true, but there's a there's a level, there's a 318 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: level of excitement that comes when you do find out, 319 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: and so don't like, go through the experience, don't spoil 320 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: go through the experience. Absolutely very proud of you, Jordan. 321 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: Good luck tomorrow and good luck tomorrow. Thanks Jordan's it's 322 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: a pleasure to see. There's a sense of pride that 323 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: comes along with that, as you you know elaborately stated. 324 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: And one of the things that I love being here 325 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: is is that there are different people who get different 326 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: experiences out of NBA All Star Weekend. 327 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 4: Right. 328 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: You get some who comes specifically for the actual part, 329 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: you get some who come for the networking opportunities. I 330 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: think it just speaks differently when there's something so personal 331 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: that becomes the reason why you're here. 332 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: And also just because. 333 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: The way that we've seen women be incorporated into this weekend, 334 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: how W players have begun to be more incorporated into 335 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: this weekend has really been amazing. 336 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: Do you remember when you were All Star MVP? Okay, 337 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: I mean I won so many MVPs so oh the 338 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: flat all started. 339 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: No, But you know what, I remember my very first 340 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: NBA All Star game that I attended when the WNBA started, 341 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: and it was in Phoenix, Arizona, and I was pregnant 342 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: with Jordan, So my experience that year was very different 343 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: from any other NBA experience because I was pregnant then. 344 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: But I will tell you as the time has gone by, 345 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: the years have gone by. For me, NBA all start, 346 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: it never gets old, yeah, because there's always a different experience. 347 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: You're always meeting different people and the fact that it's 348 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: in different cities. But for me, it's all about being 349 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: able to reconnect with people that you maybe you haven't 350 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: seen in a long time, reconnecting with people. And I 351 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: know you said party and all that. Yeah, I don't 352 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: do that no more. I am going to bed early 353 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: and proud of it. But it's it's a great opportunity 354 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: to be able to meet new people, reconnect with people, 355 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: and especially being here in San Frian this season with 356 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: the Valkyries, and yes, you can feel the excitement in 357 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: the city. Everybody's talking about it and I personally cannot 358 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: wait for the w season to start because I think 359 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: the Valkyries they are going to turn up this season. 360 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: You know what, I felt the same way, and I 361 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: know that there's this essence of you know, maybe with 362 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: them being a new team and starting to like get 363 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 3: their footing, that it may take a little bit of 364 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: time for them to jail but early. 365 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 4: You know. 366 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: I have the pleasure of joining Christina Williams on her 367 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 3: show in case you missed it, and we got a 368 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: chance to chat with Tiffany Hayes, who's the newest member 369 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 3: of the Valkyries, And I feel like just the energy 370 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 3: from Tip as well as players like Mobilings and having 371 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: Kate Martin and then having you know, head coach Natalie Nikassi, 372 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 3: it just feels like there is an excitement and there 373 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: is an expectation, right, And I think it might be 374 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 3: it might be a bit of a disservice to the 375 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 3: rest of the league to sleep on the Valkyries just 376 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: because they're a new team. Like, there are some hungry 377 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 3: women on that team, and the fans here are excited. 378 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: There was a fan who already had a Valkyrie like poster. 379 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, like they're already excited. Well, they're definitely excited. And 380 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: here's the thing that people need to like think about. Yes, 381 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: it's a new franchise, new players, the players are new 382 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: to the franchise, but they're not new to the league, right, 383 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: and when you bring. 384 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: Players in who it's a new opportunity for him, right. 385 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: Like I look at a player like a Kate Martin 386 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: who was a rookie last year, and Kate Kate Martin, 387 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: like she just is a hard worker and so for 388 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: her to be given an opportunity to, you know, be 389 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: a part of this new franchise, it's also an opportunity 390 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: to get minutes. And that's what a lot of these 391 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: players in the expansion draft weren't necessarily getting that playing 392 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: time with their old team. So yep, they're excited about it. 393 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: They're going to compete. Natalie is going to do an 394 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: incredible job. And I agree with you. I'm not saying 395 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: they're going to win a championship this season, but don't 396 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: sleep on the VA. 397 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: Don't sweep. 398 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: And you know what just to add to that point 399 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: before we move on, is I think about a player 400 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: like Timmy Fake Mainley. 401 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: She comes from Indiana. 402 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 3: She was so impactful for that team when Melissa Smith 403 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: was out, and I think to myself, like, she's a 404 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 3: player that can quite literally come into a franchise and 405 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: make a difference immediately because she'll get an opportunity to 406 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 3: play more So, it's an exciting time, but it's an 407 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 3: exciting time in women's. 408 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: Basketball in general. 409 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 3: There is you know, Athletes Unlimited, which both you and 410 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 3: I cover, that's currently going on in Nashville. There's Unrival 411 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: that's going down in Miami. 412 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: There's just so much. There are two other teams. 413 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 3: Portland has a team that's coming, Toronto has a team 414 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 3: that's coming. Y'all see how I say in Toronto, right, 415 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 3: I want y'all to take note of that there is 416 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 3: no d in Toronto. Toronto, Toronto, but there is so 417 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: much excitement building. And I know that I've asked you 418 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: this before, but I just think that it's important to 419 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 3: get your thoughts because of how much you've given to 420 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: this game, to see the league go from where it 421 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: was in ninety seven to where it is now. Just 422 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: how does that resonate with you? 423 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: And where do you see? 424 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: Like this is twenty twenty five now, but like let's 425 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: say twenty thirty, right, can we see this being a 426 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 3: twenty team league? 427 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 2: So I have mixed emotions. 428 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: Right, I'm super excited about expansion because I just my 429 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: first thought is opportunity, because year after year We're a 430 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: lot of these players are missing out on the opportunity to. 431 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: Play in the w and it's great talent. 432 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: So that part excites me because there will be more jobs, 433 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: more teams, more players. 434 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: The other side is. 435 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: I look at it and say, are we expanding too quickly? 436 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: And the reason being is because I personally, I feel 437 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: like it helps the league, It helps the team, it 438 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: helps the game. If you have two to three stars 439 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: on a squad that fans can get behind, and I 440 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: mean they get behind everybody, but teams got to have 441 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: the two to three stars per team. And if you 442 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: start expanding too quickly, do you water that talent down 443 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: a little bit? I don't know, it's a question, but 444 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: I know there are other players who have like the 445 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: same concerns or thoughts on Okay, like let's pump the 446 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: brakes a little bit, because what we don't want to 447 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: do is get to a point to where we have 448 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: so many teams that you don't necessarily have those stars 449 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: per se on those teams. 450 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 2: I get you. 451 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 3: I think what I would say to that is when 452 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 3: we look at the WNBA draft and we see so 453 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 3: many stars coming from college like stars in the college game, Yeah, 454 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 3: that have the potential to be great, but they either 455 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: don't make it to a roster because roster spots are 456 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 3: so few and far between in the league currently, or 457 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: they do make a roster, but they're. 458 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: Not actually able to develop. 459 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 3: So I guess my question, not you know, just generally, 460 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 3: would be, would this offer an opportunity for those who 461 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: really could play in the league, an opportunity to truly grow, 462 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: especially with a new team who probably doesn't have expectations anyway, right, Like, 463 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 3: I think maybe the second or third round players and 464 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: specifically third round players who you know maybe could play, 465 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 3: but just know they're not gonna like, you're not gonna 466 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 3: take a spot from Chelsea Gray, You're not gonna take 467 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: a spot from you know, some of these other people. 468 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: Well, because to me, here's what happens. 469 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: Like women's basketball, women's sports in general, but in particular, 470 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: women's basketball is like it's hot, right, Like everybody's talking 471 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: about it, everybody wants a piece of it, and that's exciting. 472 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: But I say, don't start putting all these teams out 473 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: there just because because a lot of the players that 474 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: get drafted in the third round they're not gonna they're 475 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: not even gonna make. 476 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: An expansion team. 477 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: So now you have an expansion team that pretty much 478 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: has third round picks. 479 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 2: And they're not gonna be any good. So then what happened? 480 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: Then? 481 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 2: You know what happened there? 482 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: People start talking about us saying, oh, well, Whomen's basketball. 483 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I think that's a you know what, 484 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 3: that's a great counter argument too, sure, because when you're expanding, 485 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 3: you want the product to be good where you expand to, 486 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 3: and you definitely want a level of investment. Because that's 487 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 3: another part that's important too when we talk about expansion 488 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: right now, Like teams aren't throwing bread at getting is 489 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 3: a good girl Charlott out here drinking a damn lemon 490 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: drop Martinist. It's all grown folks in here. It is 491 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 3: all grown folks in here. 492 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: But I shouldn't, somebody said. 493 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: But but no, I do think that you make a 494 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 3: great point with that, because you do want the product 495 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: to be competitive and you want it to be good 496 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: across the board, but you also want a certain level 497 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 3: of investment, right and I think you only get that 498 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 3: like the Valkyrie's already, like they sold out season tickets 499 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 3: within like weeks. They sold out, you know, the opening 500 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 3: game within days and they hadn't even like they hadn't 501 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 3: even disclosed the name of the team yet, right, And 502 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 3: so that type of excitement I think you want to 503 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 3: generate from every team that you expand to, but you 504 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: want the product to be just as good as the 505 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 3: excitement in the marketing. So I totally understand that point. 506 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: I guess what I'm saying too, is that as long 507 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 3: as there is an investment in the development of players, 508 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: just as much as there is an investment in the 509 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: physicality of things and the facilities in the marketing, as 510 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 3: long as there is an actual investment in the development. 511 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: Of players too. 512 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 3: It could be not saying it will or won't, but 513 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 3: it could be because I also think at it from 514 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: a coaching perspective, Right, how many people we say should 515 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 3: be coaching on the team should have an opportunity to 516 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 3: work with players and don't because either there's no opportunity 517 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 3: or we got folks who, if we keeping it a buck, 518 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 3: will only deal with their folks, so they don't give 519 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: these people an opportunity. 520 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 4: Right. 521 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: So I can see your reservation, is what I'm saying. 522 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 4: I can see it, But. 523 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: Like I'm super excited about it, right if those who 524 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: know way better than I do. 525 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, we're good and it's the time to 526 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 2: do it. And then I'm like, we'll go ahead and 527 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 2: do it. 528 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: All right, But the product that we put on the floor, 529 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: it's got to be it's gotta be good. 530 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: It's gotta be good. All right. 531 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: We know we've worked really hard to get to where 532 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: we are today, y'all. It's gotta be good. Y'all did okay, 533 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: y'all worked so hard. Matter of fact, I got a 534 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: sweatshirt here for anybody who can tell me what team 535 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: Sheryl Swoops worked hard. 536 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: With to get to the team where we are. What 537 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 3: anybody know, but the what team raising what you have 538 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: to answer? Houston Commas, come on and get your sweater, y'all. 539 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: Make that was so easy? And what I mean? 540 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 4: Listen, we got a warm up. 541 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, I warm them up. 542 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 6: It was a warm. 543 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: Warm up. There, we got tea. 544 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 3: Yes, oh, we have a special guest ready to join 545 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 3: us at this moment. 546 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: But I feel like you had a question. You have 547 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: a question. I have a quiz question I'm gonna do. 548 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: I'll do a Beanie do Beanie? You major is easy, 549 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna make mine easy. I have this nice 550 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: red eyeheart y'all, this is nice. 551 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 4: I know. 552 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have one for myself. For anybody that can 553 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 2: tell me the name of. 554 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: The first female to have her own shoe? 555 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 2: What was the name of the shoe? Oh? I know, 556 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 2: I know, I know. 557 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: You are you? That one was easy, That one was 558 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: very easy. As a matter, you shouldn't even get to answer. 559 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 6: Yes. 560 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, Sheryl paved the way. So now we got our 561 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 3: girl agent post and who got her own shoes? 562 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 4: Come on, now. 563 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 3: We have a special getting ready to join us. I 564 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: want you all to make some noise for our good friends, 565 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 3: our guy. Look that national champion by the way, Rashan 566 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 3: mccant's come on up here. 567 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: Now what first? 568 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: I said national champion and he came up with the 569 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 3: with the Carolina kicks on. 570 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: You said, I saw that. You know what I mean? 571 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: Before you even ask a question, can you explain to 572 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: the people why you got the crown on? 573 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 4: Does it need an explanation? 574 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,479 Speaker 1: I mean not for me, but Mike, somebody might need 575 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: an explanation, somebody. 576 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 4: I figured it just looked really really nice on me. Yeah, 577 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 4: I figured it just fit. Told me to take it off. 578 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 4: I don't think you should take it and it just 579 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 4: asked why I got it on. 580 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 6: You know, it takes a lot of confidence to wear 581 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 6: such a thing it does and. 582 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: That it does, and we know you are not sacking 583 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: in any of that figure. 584 00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 4: Where it is. 585 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 2: Sometimes you might as well shine a bit, huh. 586 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 4: Got to coordinate. 587 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: You are coordinating. 588 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 4: It's just a hat with a whole lib's far though. 589 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 2: I like it well. 590 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 3: First, yes, thank you, thank you so much for joining 591 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 3: the levels to this podcast. We like to kick it 592 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: and be chill and first and foremost, just you know 593 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 3: what has I know, literally the weekend is just kicking off. 594 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: So you probably ain't really got into it got into 595 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: it yet. 596 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 3: But just you know, how have you enjoyed the twenty 597 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: twenty five NBA All Stars so far? 598 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 4: Like? 599 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: What has this experience been like for you so far? 600 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 6: I haven't been to an All Star since twenty ten. Why, 601 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 6: that's the last time I played in the league. 602 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: So when you retired, you just said I don't want 603 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: to do All Star. 604 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 4: No. 605 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 6: I mean when I was playing, I was to participated, 606 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 6: you know, So the last one I participated in was 607 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 6: like twenty ten, and then after. 608 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 4: That it's just hard to it's hard to go to 609 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 4: these things. You competing. 610 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know you're a competitor, and if I'm 611 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 6: not in it, I don't want to be around it. 612 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 6: I know I can't do that. So it's been difficult. 613 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: So you don't pay anymore. So we're still feel that. 614 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 4: Way, Yeah, a little bit where you can still play. 615 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: Oh so you can still Yeah. 616 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 6: Man, you could have got that extra for me on 617 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 6: that parlay, you know what I'm saying. 618 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: So it's just a it's a it's a it's a. 619 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 6: Love hate thing when it comes to All Star and 620 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 6: that competitive drive. But this is my first one, so 621 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 6: I don't see myself staying too much longer. 622 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 623 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: So from two thousand, I think from twenty ten up 624 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: until now, just the whole first of all, the whole. 625 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: NBA dynamic has changed and it's very different. 626 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: Like what are some of the I don't want to 627 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: say some of the changes, but like, as this game 628 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: has evolved and as the league has evolved, Like, what 629 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: are some things that stand out to you where you like, 630 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: you know, as we're a little different then or whereas 631 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 3: like I actually kind of like that, you know, guys, 632 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 3: have this opportunity now, or people have this opportunity now. 633 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 6: I think that the opportunity to be still available is 634 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 6: just great, you know, for guys to still be able 635 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 6: to go to All Star and play in the NBA 636 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 6: and all that good stuff. 637 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 4: I wish that it could be a little bit more competitive. 638 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 6: I think the appreciation for the slots should be a 639 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 6: little bit more appreciated. I think we're turning it into 640 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 6: more of a privilege than something that you work and 641 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 6: strive and you want, right and I think some guys 642 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 6: just expect it and if we're just giving it away 643 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 6: now based on criteria, favors, agents, front offices, they're doing 644 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 6: it for the business. And then you ask yourself, what 645 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 6: is the athlete going to do, you know, going to 646 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 6: do it for. So they need to fix it, they 647 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 6: need to fix the balance. 648 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: So we've had this conversation before, and you know, there's 649 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: a lot of talk out there about what can be 650 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: done to make all start more exciting like the game. 651 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: What do you think needs. 652 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: To change at NBA All Star for it to be 653 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: more competitive and more exciting and to get the fans 654 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: more involved and excited about it. Like I used to 655 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: really look forward to the three point shooting contest, the 656 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: slam Dunk contest, and even. 657 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: The game right and nowadays I'm just like slam Dunk. 658 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm the G League slam Dunk Contest. I am tuning 659 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: in to because my son. But like, what do you 660 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: think the NBA can do to get it back to 661 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: where it used to be? 662 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 6: I think we need to move forward. I think sometimes 663 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 6: we get what does that mean? We get sidetracked with 664 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 6: the past and we want to go back to how 665 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 6: it was when we were used to it, you know. 666 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 6: I think that's what the new generation complains of out 667 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 6: calling us the old and we used to do the thing. 668 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 6: We used to do the same things to the generation 669 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 6: before us. You think, you know, we should think they 670 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 6: was old, you know. And I think it's just the 671 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 6: evolution of the game. Like I said, the competitiveness is 672 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 6: the one thing I think if All Star MVP is 673 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 6: not enough of a I want to go get that. 674 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 6: It's got to be something that's going to crown you someone. 675 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 6: Someone's going to get a reward at the end. But 676 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 6: also I think in sports, the shame of losing should 677 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 6: also drive you. Not being able to see the reward 678 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 6: should drive you, you know, and I thought, I don't think 679 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 6: it's enough of that. I think having fifty million dollars 680 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 6: a year and not having to perform up to that number. 681 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 4: Is insane. 682 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: Like fifty million dollars should motivate you, like. 683 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: You should need it any more motivation I don't need. 684 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: But I don't need fifty million to motivate me. 685 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: You give me one million, you give me fifty k, 686 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 3: and I'm about to go show out. 687 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: Okay, Papa shot is in the back, and I'm gonna 688 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: show out for fifty k. I'm doing it. 689 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 4: What this is? 690 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: This real as it gets. 691 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 3: But you know what, also, I think that from what 692 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 3: I can recall and remember, it was when certain stars cared, 693 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 3: when certain stars kind of motivated folks, then other people 694 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 3: kind of like to me, you couldn't you know, God 695 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 3: rest his soul, But to me, you couldn't tell me, 696 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 3: like Kobe would. 697 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: Be like nine about the ball out for real? Like, ma, Kobe, 698 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 2: I don't like loose. I don't remember, damn what is 699 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: on a you know what I'm saying right Like, I don't. 700 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 3: Like the loose, And so I think there is I 701 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 3: think of the things that you said, the one things 702 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: that's missing is that general that's saying, hey, look, were 703 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 3: not really giving the people what they pay for, we 704 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 3: not really doing what we need to do. 705 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 2: You just kind of need that person. 706 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 3: I think you need that one star to take it seriously, 707 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 3: and it might help to motivate some other people to 708 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 3: take it a bit more seriously. 709 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 6: I think you got to take it a step further 710 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 6: than that because it's come from the vets that's supposed 711 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 6: to be teaching them. Yeah right, right, you know, you 712 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 6: got to be a teacher that teaches teachers, right, right. 713 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 6: So if you want to be called a vet, and 714 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 6: we need a league full of veterans, right because we 715 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 6: consider veterans leaders. 716 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 4: Yeah right. 717 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 6: So if you don't have no leadership coming from anywhere else, 718 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 6: they don't know what to do, they don't know how 719 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 6: to lead, they don't. 720 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 4: Know how to point guys in the same direction. 721 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 6: So I think collectively, as a culture, I think the 722 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 6: culture of basketball in general, both men and women, I 723 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 6: think we collectively need to come together and strategize, you know, 724 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 6: how to get this thing on the right path. 725 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 4: Because I think the women's is bring it to me, 726 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 4: come on. 727 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 6: Their trajectory is better come out it feels better. Come on, 728 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 6: I think if all that would need it was Caitlyn's 729 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 6: little injection of attention to show how structured basketball can 730 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 6: be from a linear side. Look at it like the 731 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 6: women have done it in a way where they still 732 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 6: play real basketball. They play hard. They just haven't been 733 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 6: getting a notoriety for the other side of the men's side, 734 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 6: like we have our side, which is the entertainment the 735 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 6: dunks in the three seasons. But you guys have what 736 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 6: the essence of the game is. 737 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 2: I say that all the time. I say that all 738 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: the time, yo. 739 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 3: Like to me, when I hear people say things like 740 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 3: y'all should lower to Rim. First of all, I want 741 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 3: to throw a tomato at they face when they say that, 742 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 3: because it's crazy to me. But secondly, the reason tomato 743 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,479 Speaker 3: just just because it's messy, and it's just it's a mess. 744 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 3: Can you imagine a man in a white and all white, 745 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 3: just fresh like this, and then they say some dumb 746 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 3: stuff to me talking abut y'all shuld lord of Rim. 747 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 3: Just a white red tomato, just blank that whole damn 748 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 3: outfit of it. But the reason why it bugs me 749 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 3: is because I then have to turn around and ask 750 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 3: the question like, well, is the reason that you're watching 751 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 3: the NBA because they're dunking? If they were not dunking 752 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 3: in the NBA or if they were not doing though, 753 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 3: and now you look at the game and because of 754 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 3: the guy that we see on the back of the 755 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 3: wall there donks ain't even what moves people anymore. It's 756 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 3: three point shooting, it's long hour shooting, it's long forms, 757 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 758 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 2: So to your point with the game continuing. 759 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: To evolve, I love that about women's basketball, that the 760 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 3: game is evolving in that realm too, but they still 761 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 3: have not straight away from the fundamentals and the things 762 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 3: that made them who they are as ballplayers. 763 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 2: I love that well for sure. So I know we 764 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 2: talked about the NBA and all start all that. 765 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: What and I know you know women's basketball because your 766 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: sister played and you are a big proponent of women's basketball. 767 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 2: What do you and you mentioned. 768 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: Caitlin, what do you see is the biggest difference right 769 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: now where the women's game is compared to where it 770 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: was when the w first started in ninety seven. 771 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 4: I think the change for me was when it was Shamika. 772 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 6: And Tamika Tennessee when the branding outside of After You 773 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 6: started to kind of go into the boy girl I 774 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 6: can play with them style, right, And then Candace came 775 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 6: and Candace was big enough and tall enough and she 776 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 6: can move, so she was really like, I can play 777 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 6: with the guy. 778 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 4: I can play with y'all right. 779 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 6: And for me, my sister being the similar to Candice, 780 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 6: I always used to tease her about playing with us 781 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 6: and say, look, don't come over here because we're not 782 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 6: taking it easy on you. And I'm definitely not taking 783 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 6: it easy. I'm taking it off from every time if 784 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 6: I can. So it made her tougher and to see 785 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 6: the evolution from her. 786 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 4: To Maya more to you know, Cappy Pointdexters. 787 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 6: You know you're talking about like the mixing all of 788 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 6: the eras of men's the men's game and seeing it 789 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 6: in the women's game and saying that they. 790 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 4: Got just as much shake as we got. 791 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 6: And if you go back to the rim lowering kind 792 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 6: of thing, it's like if you've never done, have you 793 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 6: ever done? 794 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 2: Are you asking me? Have my ever? Dun No? 795 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 4: I stayed in my lane, So when you know what 796 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 4: it feels like the dunk you might just. 797 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 3: Were not lowering, not when not when, candas Parker has shown, 798 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 3: when she can do it. 799 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,439 Speaker 2: Stews shown that she. 800 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 4: Can do it. But she can do it. 801 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: Because there are women who can done already. So if 802 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about lowering the rim on the women's side, 803 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: there's a whole lot of changes we need to make 804 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 1: on the men's side. 805 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 4: Change. 806 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 2: But you know what the thing is too. 807 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: The thing is with that too, is that the moment 808 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 3: that you do that, right, Let's just say, for hypothetical purposes, 809 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 3: that we did lower the rims, right, then another group 810 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: of people will find something else about the women's game 811 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 3: to be like, well, since she lowered the realm, how 812 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 3: about we use how about we. 813 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 4: Use a smaller ball. 814 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 3: How about we use like like the ball is already 815 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 3: smaller than you know, how about we use different shorts, 816 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 3: like there's always gonna be t uniforms. 817 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 2: It's always something. 818 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, the men's game, right, they moved the three point 819 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 6: in line, Oh, all right, at a certain point, then 820 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 6: they moved it back. First they had three seconds, then 821 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 6: they had a legal defense. Now they have two nine. 822 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 6: The rules can change only if it benefits the game. 823 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 2: I don't think it benefits. How does Lord benefit the game. 824 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 2: It doesn't. 825 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 6: It becomes more like you said, dunks, threes, crossovers. 826 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 4: Right, What don't y'all have out of those three? 827 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 2: I don't. I have all of them. We have all 828 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 2: of them. There are women who can dunk, just I 829 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 2: don't think. 830 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 6: Because so when a woman dunks, is it wow, she dunked, 831 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 6: or is it man like John Moran? 832 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 2: It depends. 833 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, that's an unfair question because how 834 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 3: many men. 835 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 2: And how many men dunk like John Tucking, like Joahn Moran. 836 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 2: John Moran is a hobby. You can't. 837 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 4: Like dag Levine. 838 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 6: I'm talking about some nasty I'm talking about what woman 839 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 6: is going to do a nasty dunk. 840 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 3: But you remember, though, that they used to have a 841 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 3: dunk contest for exactly remember, and I think. 842 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 4: We should bring it back. Those dunks were the same, 843 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 4: we too. 844 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 2: I think you should bring it back, right, All those. 845 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 6: Dunes were the same. If you, Lord of go, those 846 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 6: girls going to do different dunks. I don't know, they're 847 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 6: gonna look different. Think about coming through the lane. If 848 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 6: you Britney Grinder coming through the lane right, catching it 849 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,919 Speaker 6: and dunking it because she's big enough is one thing 850 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 6: juju Watkins coming down the lane, hop stepping and dunking, 851 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 6: Like if you're if you're tuning, ah. 852 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,919 Speaker 1: If you're only tuning in to see if somebody's gonna dunk, 853 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: we don't want you. 854 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 855 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 4: That's why we turned it. That's why I think you 856 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:46,720 Speaker 4: watched baseball. 857 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 2: I think knockouts, that is not why you watch you you. 858 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 6: Watch football to watch touchdowns. You don't watch him to 859 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 6: get first down. 860 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 2: Will I think it's I. 861 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 3: Watched We We watch different sports for different reasons, But 862 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 3: I don't think my love of basketball is dependent on 863 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,760 Speaker 3: whether or not somebody doesn't. 864 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 4: But it adds to the entertainment value of your. 865 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 3: Product when I see every day cross over and go 866 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,240 Speaker 3: underneath the people. 867 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I want to see more dunking 868 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: for the ones that are here. Do you tune in 869 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 1: to watch women's basketball to see how many people are 870 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: gonna dunk? 871 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 3: If they were, but considering they like, they don't have to. Okay, 872 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 3: that's a fair point. That's a fair bub. See what 873 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 3: I'm saying, that's that's what makes the game. And I 874 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 3: think that's that's the point that I was getting ready 875 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 3: to make, right there. 876 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:51,439 Speaker 6: That right right right, because there's less dunking because they're 877 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 6: less dunk. 878 00:42:52,120 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 3: W n b A and the dunk has not increasedship. 879 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 4: Is down because they're shooting too many three and the w. 880 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 3: N be A viewership is up and they still ain't 881 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 3: dunking no differently than they were ten years Because. 882 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 6: Listen, they looking because the women women and looking like women. 883 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 4: They look like women out. 884 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 2: There, this right here is about to be serious. 885 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,240 Speaker 4: We're talking about the show. 886 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 6: Was probably the only one really was wearing the lipstick 887 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 6: playing back and you and. 888 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 2: You you Glass were red. 889 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 4: Listen, relative was the only ones giving us now a 890 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 4: little bit. Now it's they out there. 891 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 3: Looking like So you have taught me two things today, 892 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 3: Like you like basketball. 893 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 4: Look imagine we're looking at you dunk. You look like 894 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 4: a snack. 895 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 2: You can play what kind of. 896 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 4: The snack place on the airplane? Right on the airplane? 897 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, opened up a little the mixt. 898 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: Don't be looking at me like I'm a smack. For 899 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: no listen, I have I know we got a wrap. 900 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: But I have one question for you because I want 901 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: to get your honest opinion, because I know a lot 902 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: of people had their own opinions on. 903 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 4: This so. 904 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 2: Ice Cube. 905 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: I guess last year offering Caitlyn Clark, however much money 906 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: was I don't remember, to go and play in the 907 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: Big Three. 908 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 2: My question to you is. 909 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: Basically, what were your thoughts on that, because here's my 910 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: thing before you answer, I don't I don't care who 911 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: it is. 912 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 2: I really don't. 913 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: Caitlin Asia Angel, Chelsea Gray, I don't care who it is. 914 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, there's still men and 915 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: you're still a female. 916 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 2: So for him to come and do what he did 917 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 2: to me, it was. 918 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: More of a political stunt, like, oh, well, we know 919 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,399 Speaker 1: if she comes, eyes were. 920 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 4: Going to come. 921 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: So what what was your thought when you read that 922 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: or saw that. 923 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 6: I didn't even think about it from you guys aside immediately. 924 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 6: I think the first thing was how many guys are upset? Yes, 925 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 6: you didn't like you would offer her like you do 926 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 6: you know how much they pay the Big Three players? 927 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:29,439 Speaker 5: Yeah? 928 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 4: Hundred thousand, Nope, not even close. So wow, fact that 929 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 4: that would be. 930 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 6: You're going to give her ten million, yeah, and you're 931 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 6: not even giving them twenty thousand. 932 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 3: Wow. 933 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 4: So that was the smack in the face smack, yo, 934 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 4: that's weird. Yeah. 935 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, then we do it with. 936 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,919 Speaker 4: A publicity stunt, because you know, million for Caitlin Clark. 937 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 6: She hasn't proven anything at that point at all, and 938 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 6: it was like, yo, what but then looking at it 939 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 6: from your point to pass over a lot of other 940 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 6: players or not even you know, use that money for 941 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 6: investing bringing the girls side to two three, right. 942 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 3: Which now we have on rivals, which is essentially you 943 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 3: don't even it's the same thing. 944 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 945 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 6: You could have definitely maximized that without having to pay 946 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 6: Caitlyn Clark anything. You could have just brought Asia Kelsey 947 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 6: and just you could have just brought three, just three, 948 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 6: and you ain't have to really do nothing. But he 949 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 6: swung for the fences, and you know, unfortunately sometimes you miss. Yeah, 950 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 6: he rarely misses, but you missed this time. 951 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. 952 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we appreciate you joining us. 953 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be laughing at you for a good fifteen 954 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,240 Speaker 3: minutes talking about the damn snacks. 955 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be like. 956 00:46:59,200 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 4: Looking at us. 957 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 1: You know, I can't I can't even argue with you 958 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: because the last episode we talked about football. 959 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 2: Football, we did talk about Jalen Hurts. 960 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 3: I have to put my professional side towards Jalon Hurts 961 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,720 Speaker 3: is a damn snack. 962 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I apologize. I'm so sorry. 963 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 4: I understand. 964 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,439 Speaker 3: It has it has certainly been so much fun hanging 965 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 3: out with y'all. Thank you so much for joining us. 966 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,439 Speaker 3: I'm about to touch it. I don't touch it because 967 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 3: you're too smooth. Sure we do this every week since. 968 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 2: I know we do, and we will be back tomorrow. 969 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 3: We will be back tomorrow, absolutely, and we will be 970 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 3: joined by Christina Williams for a special crossover episode between 971 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 3: Levels of This and Christina Williams. 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