Speaker 1: It is Monday, August four. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: Shadrick on this Monday afternoon. As always, Pete Briscoe, Tony
Speaker 1: BASSELLI join us, and we've got a program today with
Speaker 1: these two maintenance days, another one today for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Will get into the guys who were off to the
Speaker 1: side of indoors today and what that really means. From
Speaker 1: head coach Doug Marrone. A little more offensive line talk
Speaker 1: George Warops book over the weekend about the state of
Speaker 1: the left tackle position. We'll get Tony's thoughts on that,
Speaker 1: some quarterback talk as well, social question or two, and
Speaker 1: then we'll go around the National Football League. Pete, Tony,
Speaker 1: what's up, Tony? How are we doing today? Well? I
Speaker 1: got issues here, I got all kinds of video issues,
Speaker 1: but I'm doing good, doing good. How are you guys doing?
Speaker 1: What kind of Florida? What kind of issues. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't see either, but that's okay. That's not a bad thing,
Speaker 1: not seeing you two. I'm okay with that. We're in
Speaker 1: high definition, Pete. Speak for yourself. High definition. It brings
Speaker 1: out all your flaws even more so, j P. I
Speaker 1: hate to tell you that. Oh wow, takes one to
Speaker 1: know one, Pete. Thank you very much. You know, it
Speaker 1: has been a positive day on the COVID nineteam front,
Speaker 1: and in fact, well not a positive day, a negative day.
Speaker 1: In fact, the league just a few minutes ago announced
Speaker 1: some of the results from August twelve and twentieth that week.
Speaker 1: In that span over a week there between August twelve
Speaker 1: in August, they administered just over fifty eight thousand tests
Speaker 1: to about NFL players and personnel, and they had zero
Speaker 1: confirmed positives among players and only six among personnel. Pete.
Speaker 1: That is pretty remarkable, it really is. And it's a
Speaker 1: tribute to a the players because I expected a few
Speaker 1: knuckleheads to go out and bring it back in once
Speaker 1: in a while, but they haven't done that, which is
Speaker 1: a good thing. Uh. And I think it's a real
Speaker 1: tribute to the teams for the way they're handling things
Speaker 1: and the money that the owners have spent to make things,
Speaker 1: as you know, secure and as safe as possibly can be.
Speaker 1: So it's a good it's a great look for the league.
Speaker 1: You know, people, let's be honest about it. There were
Speaker 1: many in the media who thought that this would be
Speaker 1: a disaster. They predicted it. It's kind of like the
Speaker 1: people in the media who predicted Florida would become the
Speaker 1: next New York and that's clearly not happening. Uh, as
Speaker 1: it relates to this virus. So I think that this
Speaker 1: this is a situation where the NFL should be given
Speaker 1: a ton of credit and by the way, the entire
Speaker 1: offseason they should be given a ton of credit. Remember
Speaker 1: in the midst of this thing, they said, oh, you
Speaker 1: can't have the draft. The draft was one of the
Speaker 1: best they've ever had. Then the you know, first it
Speaker 1: was free agency, then the draft. They've moved on. They've
Speaker 1: done a really good job with it. Let's hope it
Speaker 1: stays that way. Wow, Pete being positive, it's a shocking
Speaker 1: state of affairs here today on the Monday Show. Usually
Speaker 1: you come out firing bullets and people and they're very
Speaker 1: very nice to the league and everything else. I agree, though,
Speaker 1: I think it's handled perfectly. Now. The real test, though,
Speaker 1: is coming up. I mean, let's not let's be clear,
Speaker 1: is once we get into the games and you have
Speaker 1: teams working together and traveling and everything else, um, and
Speaker 1: how do they manage if you do have a positive test.
Speaker 1: What would have happened if the false positives that the
Speaker 1: New Jersey Lab came up with happened the Saturday before
Speaker 1: and NFL game and you had five six teams that
Speaker 1: had significant portions of their rosters not really sick, not
Speaker 1: even having COVID, but because the false positives wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to play a game. Well, I think what you
Speaker 1: would do, Tony? As you put the push the game
Speaker 1: off until Monday. It's not like, you know, you're playing
Speaker 1: in the stadium with any fans, and fans aren't making
Speaker 1: trips to go to games. You know there might be
Speaker 1: some fans. Some of those stadiums won't have any fans.
Speaker 1: You just push it to Monday, fix it, go back,
Speaker 1: retest everybody so to make sure it's not a problem,
Speaker 1: and then play the game on Monday. It's all doable.
Speaker 1: You know, this is all What if it isn't What
Speaker 1: if they weren't false positives what they're really positives, And
Speaker 1: now you have significant number of players not be on
Speaker 1: the player. I'm just saying, I think they listen. I
Speaker 1: applaud the NFL. I mean they're doing a great job.
Speaker 1: I applaud the players to your point, because really it's
Speaker 1: about the individuals taking care of their their business and
Speaker 1: being professional. So I am a hundred percent aligned with you.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, um, I have. I'm kind of just
Speaker 1: I'm tempering my excitement about where we are because I
Speaker 1: definitely want to play football and watch football this year
Speaker 1: and be a part of it and called games. But
Speaker 1: we're still a long way to go, um to get
Speaker 1: to that portion of it which will really determine whether
Speaker 1: this is successful or not. But also they're young athletes.
Speaker 1: You get you know how many guys have already had
Speaker 1: it and then come back and already back on the
Speaker 1: active roster. And it might happen where a guy sits
Speaker 1: out one game, but he's back the next week. I
Speaker 1: think that's a possibility, Let's be honest, Tony. Two of
Speaker 1: the three on this show, I've had it, you and
Speaker 1: me because I had it too and then I recovered
Speaker 1: and it was like having a flu for me, and
Speaker 1: I didn't, to be honest with you, I didn't even
Speaker 1: know I had it, um so, and you you were
Speaker 1: clearly in a different situation than me. But I think
Speaker 1: it's one of those you know, we're young, active, athletic
Speaker 1: guys are going to respond to it and bounce back.
Speaker 1: And you look how healthy I am right now. Picture
Speaker 1: of solid gold right here. Come on. Yeah, no one
Speaker 1: is saying that. Watch nobody, nobody. That's what we were
Speaker 1: all thinking about. Yeah, I mean, but and I hear you,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying there's
Speaker 1: you know, it's not just it's not just the players,
Speaker 1: it's not just the young guys, it's the older coaches.
Speaker 1: And you have a lot of things that we have
Speaker 1: to manage and really be careful about right now. And
Speaker 1: uh so, I'm with you. I hope it's the case.
Speaker 1: I hope that we get through it and we continue
Speaker 1: to have to success that we pencil part. All right,
Speaker 1: let's continue with the Jaguars talk now, and the Jags
Speaker 1: back in the practice field today. But well, some of
Speaker 1: the Jags were back in the practice field today. Twenty
Speaker 1: four or so players were kept inside for maintenance to day.
Speaker 1: It's the second time that's happened in camp so far
Speaker 1: and it included today some big time names. Gardner Minshew
Speaker 1: was one of those not on the original list, but
Speaker 1: then once we got to practice, he wasn't on the
Speaker 1: practice field either. They brought him back inside as well.
Speaker 1: Doug Moron before practice today, explaining what a maintenance day
Speaker 1: really means. Even though that you guys aren't able to
Speaker 1: see them, I want to try to give you some
Speaker 1: insight to what they do. Uh. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of those guys are for medical reasons in the past
Speaker 1: that they've had issues with or in the past they've
Speaker 1: had time struggling, you know, through a season, um for
Speaker 1: odds and ends. But what we do is we try
Speaker 1: to take the amount the workload that they would have
Speaker 1: in a normal practice and try to simulate that, which
Speaker 1: we can do because it's all monitored. So basically what's
Speaker 1: happening is you have a team out there on the
Speaker 1: field that that that that's practicing, and then the players
Speaker 1: that are inside, you know, they're they're doing you know,
Speaker 1: they're just having the same amount of tax on their body.
Speaker 1: They're just not going through uh, you know, they're not
Speaker 1: getting hit. So that's Dug Maroon before practice today with
Speaker 1: a little explanation of what was to come. But it
Speaker 1: was a little I don't know jarring is the right word,
Speaker 1: but it was different not seeing a lot of those
Speaker 1: big names out there. Tony, Yeah, and I hear what
Speaker 1: Doug is saying. Um, but it's already a limited camp.
Speaker 1: I mean, only what is it like what we end
Speaker 1: up saying. It's eleven or twelve thirteen days, fourteen total
Speaker 1: padded practices, eleven full time padded practices. Yes, so let's
Speaker 1: just call it fourteen fourteen padded practices. Do you need
Speaker 1: a maintenance day because you're hitting too much? I get
Speaker 1: if you have an injury or something like that that
Speaker 1: you want to be smart, but work. I mean, look
Speaker 1: at that list. You have a bunch of young guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, josh al Joan Taylor second, your players. Um,
Speaker 1: it's hey, listen, they got science and um they know
Speaker 1: their players better than we do. But I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit surprised, to be honest with you, that certain guys
Speaker 1: are on that list. It doesn't make sense to me
Speaker 1: when you have only fourteen days of padded practices. Why
Speaker 1: why you would give extended rest two really young players.
Speaker 1: You used to have fourteen days a pad of practices
Speaker 1: in ten days. Yeah, the first week, the first week,
Speaker 1: we'd have fourteen practices or like that. First you know,
Speaker 1: I guess you're your first couple of days of two
Speaker 1: days with no pads. So let's just call it dave
Speaker 1: three or four your full pads and you go twice
Speaker 1: a day every day. Um and listen, I'm not advocating
Speaker 1: that that's the the right way either by any means, um,
Speaker 1: but I I don't get it. I don't understand why
Speaker 1: you'd have vacation or maintenance days or whatever you wanna
Speaker 1: call the days for young players when you have limited reps.
Speaker 1: This is a young football team. Let's not forget it's
Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator with a second year quarterback. I
Speaker 1: just can't. I mean, unless Gardner Minshew has like dead arm,
Speaker 1: which is so early, I can't believe it's that or
Speaker 1: some injury we don't know about. Why would you not
Speaker 1: give him every possible rep in a new offense with
Speaker 1: new players or round him? Um? I mean Juwan Taylor,
Speaker 1: cam Robinson. Um. Young guys need as many reps as
Speaker 1: they can get. A guy got Josh Allen, who's um,
Speaker 1: you know, up and comings and be counted on to
Speaker 1: be one of the best players on this team. Again injury, Yes,
Speaker 1: be conservative with injuries. I get that. But just a
Speaker 1: maintenance day because there's too much hitting when you're only
Speaker 1: hitting fourteen days. Um. So they started camp one day
Speaker 1: JP August one, right around there. Uh yeah, yeah, right
Speaker 1: around that window. But it was the ramp up. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: let's all so from August one to September that is
Speaker 1: six weeks. You're gonna have fourteen hard practices. That's two
Speaker 1: padded practices a week on average, maybe if you you know,
Speaker 1: two point one or two point two. My point is,
Speaker 1: it's not extending yourself. I mean that's just not it's
Speaker 1: not it's not like they're doing nine on seven and
Speaker 1: like tackling to the ground and go line and well
Speaker 1: they have, yeah, but as it relates to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: As it relates to the quarterback, why on earth would
Speaker 1: you give him a day off? I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: like he's got a dead arm or anything. And make
Speaker 1: that guy needs to practice more than anybody. He's the starter,
Speaker 1: he's entering his second year. It's a new offense. He
Speaker 1: should be on the field every single rep he can
Speaker 1: possibly get that one. I don't understand at all. Maybe
Speaker 1: a veteran day here and there. But I'm with you, Tony,
Speaker 1: this this makes no sense to me with the limited
Speaker 1: amount of time that you have. Now, I do know
Speaker 1: they're gonna actually have a scrimmage in the stadium on
Speaker 1: Saturday night, and it sounds like they're gonna tackle and
Speaker 1: hit and go to the ground and it's gonna look
Speaker 1: like a preseason game. And from what I understand, is
Speaker 1: that correct? Yeah, I don't understanding. It has some. It
Speaker 1: has some. It looks like a practice will have some
Speaker 1: drills and all that early and then some eleven on
Speaker 1: eleven work. That's the way I understand it as of
Speaker 1: today on Monday. Of course I can build as the
Speaker 1: week goes on. Here. But to to to your point
Speaker 1: about tackling to the ground, they have been doing a
Speaker 1: little bit of live working. May they have been doing
Speaker 1: some Miles Jack tackling Leonard four Nette all the way
Speaker 1: to the ground is alive rep. In my opinion, Tony,
Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing. I watched the tape on I watched
Speaker 1: every play from Saturday's practice and they had eleven on eleven,
Speaker 1: but they had one period where it was tackled through
Speaker 1: the ground and it wasn't even the whole period um.
Speaker 1: And so I'm not saying they're not so how many
Speaker 1: guys tackled? How did the secondary get to tackle it
Speaker 1: all in those drills? A little bit? Not much. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, yes, again, there's not enough tackling. Yeah, we're yeah, whatever, whatever,
Speaker 1: what do you what are you saying? We're beating this,
Speaker 1: We're beating thing to death? And but it is what
Speaker 1: it is. They're gonna have maintenance days, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: have second year players and quarterbacks that have played, you know,
Speaker 1: ten games as getting maintenance days they have, Pete, I
Speaker 1: hope it works. Pete. Is this a trend around the league?
Speaker 1: Or is this kind of a one off? What's the
Speaker 1: kind of guy? Yeah, guys are getting maintenance days, no
Speaker 1: question about it. And I personally don't understand it. I
Speaker 1: think you need to hit as much as you possibly can.
Speaker 1: You only have the X amount of days to get
Speaker 1: ready for the season. Uh, and you don't have preseason games.
Speaker 1: Have granted preseason games, you might play ten plays in
Speaker 1: the first one and you know, thirty, and then I
Speaker 1: mean and then twenty, and then maybe fifteen eighteen, then none.
Speaker 1: But you hit, you gotta hit. It's a football. Tony
Speaker 1: can tell you better than any of us. You gotta
Speaker 1: hit people. You gotta be able to understand the angles
Speaker 1: when you're tackling. The speed of the game and thumping
Speaker 1: a guy is not the same as putting them on
Speaker 1: the ground. So I used to say tackling in practice
Speaker 1: was dumb. This year it's different. You need the tackle
Speaker 1: in practice. Somebody gets hurt as part of football, but
Speaker 1: you still need to tackle. We'll see what happens. It
Speaker 1: sounds like the Jags have have done their share so far,
Speaker 1: and we'll see what the week ahead has in store
Speaker 1: for the Jags in practice. Let's come back in a moment.
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Speaker 1: bank of the Jackson Jaguars. It's pretty impressive now, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know again. You know, we've got a long way
Speaker 1: to go, but you talk us about strength speed, Um,
Speaker 1: he's probably faster than than I thought. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When I watched the film, Um, you know
Speaker 1: he's definitely you know, he's it's been impressive, I said
Speaker 1: coach Doug Morone earlier today discussing Caleb and Chaise on
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Speaker 1: a M Radio in Jacksonville. That's big praise, guys for
Speaker 1: a guy who missed the first week or so of
Speaker 1: what we would actually call training camp with pads. He
Speaker 1: had a little hamstring ailment, but from the sound of it,
Speaker 1: he wanted to be out there and maybe he's not
Speaker 1: a hundred percent, but he's fighting through it. According to
Speaker 1: Doug Morone today and Tony, that's a good sign when
Speaker 1: you have a guy that wants to be out there
Speaker 1: and is fighting through something to to show some things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the walk to Joe is important. I mean because you
Speaker 1: don't want you want to be important to a guy.
Speaker 1: And I think one of the ways you tell that
Speaker 1: is the how anxious they already get on the field,
Speaker 1: especially when they're coming through an injury. And if a
Speaker 1: guy is willing to push it, um and try to
Speaker 1: get back out there as quick as POSSI, that's a
Speaker 1: good sign. I think it's a coach you always want
Speaker 1: to be. You want to have to older reins back
Speaker 1: on a guy like you want to. You want players
Speaker 1: that you're saying no, we need you need to take
Speaker 1: more time, you need to rest instead of you know,
Speaker 1: the type of guy that you have to kick in
Speaker 1: the rear end to get back on the field. So
Speaker 1: it sounds like Chason is that type of guy, Um,
Speaker 1: And that's a good sign. It's a great sign. Um.
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful. You don't want anything to pop.
Speaker 1: You know that Tony, that thing goes and he's gonna
Speaker 1: be out for a while, so you gotta be careful
Speaker 1: with it. But I'm with Tony. I think it's great.
Speaker 1: You want to is something that the great players all have.
Speaker 1: You got it want to be great, You want to
Speaker 1: be part of it. It angers you when you miss.
Speaker 1: And I think it sounds like he's that kind of
Speaker 1: player and that's good. What does this mean now? What
Speaker 1: is it Gockway gonna do? That's the question. I mean this,
Speaker 1: this kid uh isn't has a chance to be a
Speaker 1: really good pass ritter. I don't know if it's gonna
Speaker 1: happen overnight. But what do they do with in Dockway?
Speaker 1: You know, there's the there was the report last week
Speaker 1: that ended up being erroneous. He is on the market, Um,
Speaker 1: they would rate m. I I think they would do
Speaker 1: that for the right price. But again it's a bad look.
Speaker 1: So I'm that's one of the questions that's still out
Speaker 1: there within Gockway. What do you do with them? Well,
Speaker 1: you you're playing he's gonna sign that, he's gonna sign
Speaker 1: that he's gonna sign that franchise tag. At some point,
Speaker 1: you and I both know that he's not million dollars.
Speaker 1: You're eighteen million dollars. Um, that's not gonna happen, and
Speaker 1: so and I don't think and maybe there's a market,
Speaker 1: but I don't think the market there for him. I
Speaker 1: mean this late in the game. You know, if somebody
Speaker 1: gonna give up a one. Well, if they were, we're
Speaker 1: gonna give a one, or they would have done it already. Um,
Speaker 1: And is there a player out there that would move
Speaker 1: the needle enough for the Jaguars to make that trade?
Speaker 1: Possibly an interior Defen's alignment where I think they're really
Speaker 1: fan and they continued, I think there's gonna be some issues.
Speaker 1: Could you can have some issues there this year? Uh?
Speaker 1: But outside of that, I mean, is there a good
Speaker 1: enough player that is out there that he would be
Speaker 1: willing to trade pour in Gockway, Um, you know, to
Speaker 1: the teams and think about it, but I don't see
Speaker 1: it happening at this point. I think he's on the
Speaker 1: team and because of that, I think he signs to
Speaker 1: deal here. Here's the other thing, though, I mean, if
Speaker 1: you have a good interior lineman, you're probably not giving
Speaker 1: that guy up there hard to find not not. I'm
Speaker 1: saying pass rushers are more valuable in this league. But already,
Speaker 1: look at Minnesota lost Michael Pierce. Uh. You know you
Speaker 1: saw Dallas had Gerald McCoy go down. I mean some
Speaker 1: of the other big guys opted out. Uh, It's not
Speaker 1: like there's a bevy of those guys out there. If
Speaker 1: you wanted to make a deal, you could get a
Speaker 1: second theer guy maybe and then a draft pick, but
Speaker 1: is that worth trading him away? And part of the
Speaker 1: things I think about it is the look of it.
Speaker 1: It's a bad look for the organization. Unless you get
Speaker 1: wowed by a major offer, it's a bad look. You
Speaker 1: had Ramsey grumble and moan his way out of town
Speaker 1: and you've got a great offer, so you had to
Speaker 1: do it. But if you do it again, then you
Speaker 1: have okay anybody in the building if you like your situation, moaning,
Speaker 1: grown about it and no trade yet, that's a bad
Speaker 1: look for the organization, which is why I don't think
Speaker 1: they want to do it. Yeah, at some point, it's
Speaker 1: gonna stop if if you're gonna keep guys around here
Speaker 1: that you've drafted and counted on to to be the
Speaker 1: backbone of your organization. Um, well, let's continue on defense.
Speaker 1: On the defensive line here, guys. Tavin Bryan a bone
Speaker 1: bruise in his knee that popped up during that Saturday practice.
Speaker 1: He walked off with a trainer under his own power. Um,
Speaker 1: but it's week to week, Doug Maron said today, And
Speaker 1: that just adds to the list of things that had
Speaker 1: happened on this defensive line already. Know two top free
Speaker 1: agents are not around. Other guys are hurt or have
Speaker 1: retired two suspensions at the start of the season, and
Speaker 1: Carl Davis and Josh Morrow they're not available. So, as
Speaker 1: you said, Tony, you know it's a group that is
Speaker 1: relatively thin. They've got Journey in there, and he's flashed
Speaker 1: a little bit the first few days of camp. What
Speaker 1: have you seen out of Journey Gain on that tape
Speaker 1: you've washed? You know there's moments. I mean, he has
Speaker 1: some nice place in that Saturday practice. You know, he's
Speaker 1: a big explosive guy that you know, you know he
Speaker 1: still has it in him. The question is how many
Speaker 1: does he have in him per game? And so how
Speaker 1: often can he stay out there? Can he hold up
Speaker 1: uh playing and play out That would be my big question.
Speaker 1: But he has flashes, There's no doubt about it. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean you look at Taman Brian I said it before.
Speaker 1: He had to be a guy that was one of
Speaker 1: your studs. He had to be your starting three technique
Speaker 1: and he had to be disruptive. Um. He had shown
Speaker 1: some nice things on tape and you can see the
Speaker 1: explosives of strength. Um, the question is canna go find
Speaker 1: the ball that's always been you know, he is he
Speaker 1: maturing there it looks like he's doing better and better,
Speaker 1: but with a bone bruising him out. That is like
Speaker 1: I Doug said it perfect, it's week the week, it's
Speaker 1: where where is the bone bruise? Uh? And what is
Speaker 1: the severity of it? And so just to everyone listen
Speaker 1: to you get a bone bruise I've having before. Uh.
Speaker 1: And if they're at a weight bearing portion of your knee,
Speaker 1: it's basically a bunch of micro fractures in your knees
Speaker 1: where the bone bruise ends up being. Um. And if
Speaker 1: you don't let it heal, it can be lingering in
Speaker 1: a real pain and you know what. Um. And so
Speaker 1: depending on this verity of it where it is in
Speaker 1: the knee, you know, we'll determine how long he's out.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's mild uh, nothing too serious and uh he
Speaker 1: can be back, you know, you know a week or something. Tony,
Speaker 1: how did Hamilton's look on the table. He's a big body. Um.
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna think when you're gonna get out
Speaker 1: of him. As he gets more comfortable, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: a big run stuff in, you know, eat up space
Speaker 1: type of guy. Um, you can still see he's a
Speaker 1: little bit slow reaction wise. He's not gonna get me
Speaker 1: much in the pass rush right away. Uh. And so
Speaker 1: I think you know that's who he is. I think
Speaker 1: he I think him and Avery basically rotate at that
Speaker 1: nose positions would be my guests. They could use an
Speaker 1: impact right away from a guy like Hamilton's for sure.
Speaker 1: And have to define what does impact mean because a
Speaker 1: lot of people when you say and saying, hey, we
Speaker 1: want to impact from a guy on the defensive, linem
Speaker 1: pick a fat sacks and big plays and you know,
Speaker 1: all this different stuff. An impact for him might just
Speaker 1: being a rotational player that helps you solidify against the run.
Speaker 1: And it might not show up a bunch of the stats,
Speaker 1: you know, tackles and tackles for losses and sacks and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Um, but where you turn on the
Speaker 1: tape and he's doing his job and free it up,
Speaker 1: show Burton and Miles Jack and we make plays and
Speaker 1: he's eating them double teams and everything else. So and
Speaker 1: I always say that because as people listen, you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes the impact isn't what you think. It's not the
Speaker 1: stat sheet, it's not the flashy stuff. Um, they need
Speaker 1: guys to do their job up front. This is a
Speaker 1: team that was really bad against the run last year,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be guys like Hamilton's step up if
Speaker 1: they want to fix that. Yes, sometimes it's the snaps
Speaker 1: you might get spelling a guy and if you play
Speaker 1: well and those and then give that guy a blow
Speaker 1: and then he can come back in and and do
Speaker 1: his thing. That that's where an impact be to your point, Tony,
Speaker 1: for sure, Hey, let's come back. We'll go offensive line.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna hear from the offensive
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Speaker 1: high level. The biggest thing for married from last year
Speaker 1: to now is he can take all the practice night
Speaker 1: he's out there and all the practice he's taking, all
Speaker 1: the reps. UH. There's been UH and to this point
Speaker 1: no issues with him physically. Uh so, I mean he
Speaker 1: can just keep going and getting better and we don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about managing them like we did last year.
Speaker 1: George Warhat, Jaguar's offensive line coach, earlier this weekend, yesterday,
Speaker 1: in fact, discussing Cam Robinson, and that's about as clear
Speaker 1: as it gets. It's gonna be the starting left tackle.
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Speaker 1: Tony Basselli is I'm guessing in an undisclosed location because
Speaker 1: that's the trend lately. And I'm in the home studio today.
Speaker 1: So you know, earlier in the in the E Converse
Speaker 1: station with the media Warhop, Tony was asked about Will
Speaker 1: Richardson's development as a left tackle and how's how it's gone.
Speaker 1: And you know he said earlier Cam it wasn't really
Speaker 1: a competent. There's no competition because Cam has been playing
Speaker 1: the position. Willis just trying to get comfortable. As the
Speaker 1: days go along, the comfort starts to show. But then
Speaker 1: later in the press conference you heard the answer there,
Speaker 1: what does Cam Robinson mean to this offensive line was
Speaker 1: the question that was the answer with Cam is gonna
Speaker 1: be the starting left tackle. And I don't think it
Speaker 1: gets much clearer than that, Tony. Um, Yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: mean if you watch the tape, I mean, he's playing better.
Speaker 1: He's the better left tackle right now. So I think
Speaker 1: it's clear today. I mean I thought it was a
Speaker 1: competition coming in, but Cam is Uh. From what I've
Speaker 1: seen in the tape watching one of the ones and
Speaker 1: the team work, it's but works much better. You see
Speaker 1: he's worked on, he's cleaned up. He looks like he's
Speaker 1: in shape this year. Um, he looks like a guy
Speaker 1: who get ready to play in his contract years what
Speaker 1: he looks like to me. And that's a good thing
Speaker 1: because Cam's talented and big, physical, athletic, I mean, all
Speaker 1: the things you want. And so I think George is right.
Speaker 1: George Warhopp, offense line coach, is dead on that he's
Speaker 1: gonna be your left tackle. Um, I thought, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, let me bring my cynical side out. I
Speaker 1: think it's funny that he said that. The good news
Speaker 1: is they don't have to worry about any maintenance in
Speaker 1: the managing of Cam because of his need, but then
Speaker 1: he had a maintenance to it. But he was one
Speaker 1: of the guys who had the maintenance day Today. Isn't
Speaker 1: it early to crown a champ though, Tony? I mean
Speaker 1: we thought he would be the starter. And I wonder
Speaker 1: if Maron was okay with Warhop letting that out. I mean,
Speaker 1: because it hadn't been it hadn't been out until he
Speaker 1: said it, and it's not usually line coach. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think could you imagine if Mike Maser said something like
Speaker 1: that when he was your line coach, the late Mike MASERU,
Speaker 1: he would have I mean, cough would have gone nuts. Well, my,
Speaker 1: the difference is here's a big difference. None of those
Speaker 1: guys ever talk to the media, and they weren't allowed.
Speaker 1: Assistant coaches didn't talk to the media. And when Tom
Speaker 1: was then coach, so whenever happened. Uh, you know, if
Speaker 1: you want, if you watch practice, I think it's clear
Speaker 1: that Cam's better right now. Um. So, I mean your
Speaker 1: question about should Warhop has said that or not? I mean,
Speaker 1: who knows? At this point? How many more practice do
Speaker 1: you really have? Your um if your will works in
Speaker 1: to win the job, I mean, you have a scrimmage
Speaker 1: coming up this week. Um, you're gonna have some maintenance
Speaker 1: days throwing in there at some point, I'm sure, and
Speaker 1: you know, and then you start working out, you start
Speaker 1: getting ready for indie game, you know, game week or
Speaker 1: only three weeks away, pet less than three weeks away
Speaker 1: from you. Yeah. What what happens though? If if Robinson
Speaker 1: goes out and is a spinning top in the in
Speaker 1: the scrimmage, I mean then you got to reevaluate that,
Speaker 1: don't you. Um, I would think so, But you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what conversations are having, you know, in
Speaker 1: the building. I mean right now, if you watch them,
Speaker 1: tape cam is clearly better. It's not really close to me. Um.
Speaker 1: And so maybe Georgia just speaking that was he good
Speaker 1: on Was he good on Saturday? In the scrimmage or
Speaker 1: whatever they called it on Saturday? Was he good? Now? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think he had one mrs sigment or
Speaker 1: that it wasn't missing. He had a bad down box
Speaker 1: against Tavid Taben made a real nice play blew it up. Um,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would say overall, yeah, I thought it
Speaker 1: was solid. Techniques better because that's one of your you
Speaker 1: guys have open side about his technique, Yeah, it's been
Speaker 1: His footwork is so much better in the past game,
Speaker 1: and that's the thing I've really been focusing on. And
Speaker 1: so um, I think that's a good thing. And I mean, Pete,
Speaker 1: does it surprise you it's his contract here, you guys talented. No,
Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me. Is but it sounds like and
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him, but it sounds like from what
Speaker 1: you guys say, his body's in ten times better shape
Speaker 1: than he looks great. He looks great well. And if
Speaker 1: he had, like you said, if he has a good year,
Speaker 1: he's gonna make a boatload of money. And if he
Speaker 1: has a good year, the offensive line is gonna be
Speaker 1: pretty good, right. I mean think about that if you
Speaker 1: because I think the right tackle is gonna be a
Speaker 1: really good player. Uh, the center and the left guard
Speaker 1: or solid players, and maybe the centers above solid and
Speaker 1: then whatever you get out of the right guard. He's inconsistent,
Speaker 1: but he has his moments. That line could be pretty
Speaker 1: good this year if he's good. Yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 1: what they're hoping for. I mean, I still worry about
Speaker 1: the run game because I'm still not convinced that they're
Speaker 1: tight end group. I like them better from a pass
Speaker 1: catching I mean, Iffort looks good on tape. You know,
Speaker 1: you can tell he's a professional tight end, Like he
Speaker 1: knows how to get open and find space in the secondary.
Speaker 1: He's good. Um. I mean, I don't think he's would
Speaker 1: be the tile I for that when he came to
Speaker 1: the league, was one of the more dynamic tight ends.
Speaker 1: But he is a good player. I still worry about
Speaker 1: can they hold up on the edge though, in the
Speaker 1: run game, Like who's going to be that blocking tight
Speaker 1: end that's gonna hold up on a six technique, a
Speaker 1: head up defensive end playing a four or three so
Speaker 1: they can run the ball, because if you can't block
Speaker 1: the edges, you can't run the ball on tight end. Here.
Speaker 1: Let's finish up on the offensive line discussion here, and
Speaker 1: let's hear from Juwan Taylor, the right tackle. He spoke
Speaker 1: over the weekend as well about the physicality that this
Speaker 1: group can bring up from. We're definitely putting a big
Speaker 1: emphasis on, you know, get more push off the line,
Speaker 1: being more physical at the point of contact. So we've
Speaker 1: definitely been focusing on that every day. Uh, because Warhouthen
Speaker 1: preaching that us every single day that you know, we
Speaker 1: need to get more movement off the line and you know,
Speaker 1: create more space for our running basket. A lot of
Speaker 1: we got a lot of good back, so we gotta
Speaker 1: make some space for him and create plays with him.
Speaker 1: You can, you can say it, but it's a matter
Speaker 1: of going out and do it. And as to your point, Tony,
Speaker 1: it's it's more than just those five guys. It's the
Speaker 1: tight ends, it's the fullback, all those guys involved. Pete,
Speaker 1: sorry to cut you off there, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: get you on in there because he's a guy who's
Speaker 1: penalized a bunch of last year. Can he work past that?
Speaker 1: And what kind of player can he be now? In
Speaker 1: year two? I think he's gonna be a dominant player.
Speaker 1: I think he has a chance to be uh their
Speaker 1: best right tackle to Leon seriously and and maybe even better.
Speaker 1: And Leon was the heck of a player, but this
Speaker 1: guy has a chance to be a long term guy.
Speaker 1: Leon's career in Jacksonville was very condensed. Obviously, he got hurt.
Speaker 1: He came over as a free agent. But I think
Speaker 1: this is this is a guy who can be there
Speaker 1: draft and developed right tackle goes to you know, two
Speaker 1: or three Pro Bowls down the line. That technique, stuff,
Speaker 1: the mistakes, that's all part of being a young player.
Speaker 1: I think he learned a ton last year. It was
Speaker 1: great to play him. You get in there and you play,
Speaker 1: and Tony you can speak that better than I can.
Speaker 1: I imagine you learn more in one game playing than
Speaker 1: you do in you know, thirty practices on the practice field. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think you learn a lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: be in the game situations of understanding you know the
Speaker 1: different situations and the different type of guys you're gonna play,
Speaker 1: and then you know and how to react and more
Speaker 1: than anything, probably being comfortable out there. I mean the
Speaker 1: more reps you get out there in more game situations,
Speaker 1: like there's a comfort level of like knowing you've done
Speaker 1: it um and that you can handle it. And think
Speaker 1: after his rookie year and the way he performed, I
Speaker 1: think he should be confident going to this year like, hey,
Speaker 1: I have the ability to be one of the better
Speaker 1: right tackles. As you talked about Pete in the NFL, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's important for him to to keep developing. Obviously,
Speaker 1: and we touched on the interior of this offensive line
Speaker 1: to we know Lender obviously he's been around here for
Speaker 1: a while. He's on a second contract. Norwell had some
Speaker 1: criticism at times, but um, a good solid veteran left
Speaker 1: left guard in this league and then a j can
Speaker 1: at the right guard spot of veteran guy who has
Speaker 1: been resigned by the team. They're all back, that's you know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, how did they play
Speaker 1: Tony and then hey, they're all back. So apparently it
Speaker 1: was improvement as the year went along, right or is
Speaker 1: this a press start? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know about that, Jap.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is an offense. I only scored three
Speaker 1: points a game for seven straight games. It was an
Speaker 1: offense that couldn't run the ball consistently. It's an offense
Speaker 1: that they had to play, according to the head coach
Speaker 1: now Gardner Minshew, because they couldn't. They needed a quarterback
Speaker 1: who could make people miss in the pocket and extend plays.
Speaker 1: And so to say that that they're brought this group
Speaker 1: back because they were happy with how they were performing,
Speaker 1: I find that tough to believe based on what the
Speaker 1: head coach told us last year and what the numbers
Speaker 1: told us. I think that's why I think I think
Speaker 1: there was some surprise that there wasn't you know, some
Speaker 1: moves made, whether earlier in the draft or whatever, to
Speaker 1: see if they can solidify their offense line a little bit. Um.
Speaker 1: And so I'm hoping, um that what we've seen out
Speaker 1: of Cam you know, you go across the board and
Speaker 1: each guy is a little bit better and improves and
Speaker 1: it becomes more consistent. Because I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: talent issue. I think it's a consistency issue. And uh.
Speaker 1: And so that I think that's what you know if
Speaker 1: you're George Warhop and I think what Joe On Taylor's
Speaker 1: told us, it's like he's continually to beat the druma like, hey,
Speaker 1: we need to be more, get more movement, we need
Speaker 1: to be consistent. It's playing and play out. So um,
Speaker 1: that's the thing that I think will be interesting this year. Uh.
Speaker 1: But I would disagree with you if the message is, hey,
Speaker 1: we really feel good and we have a great Our
Speaker 1: offensive line was where we wanted it last year, so
Speaker 1: we just brought them all back, um, at least not
Speaker 1: based on what the stats and what the head coach
Speaker 1: told us last year. Right, But they could be much
Speaker 1: like you imagined tone in the run game. And if
Speaker 1: they're improved in the run game and they can't block
Speaker 1: the edges, it's not really going to matter that much.
Speaker 1: I mean that that pot point is spot on. They
Speaker 1: have to be able to block the edges. I gotta
Speaker 1: block the days for sure. Let's come back. Well, we'll
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Speaker 1: receiver discussion. Well d D. Westbrook's not out there and
Speaker 1: this is the last couple of days Saturday and Sunday
Speaker 1: with a shoulder issue. He's again week the week. That's
Speaker 1: what Doug Maron said this morning. Other than that, everybody
Speaker 1: else is out there and actually playing pretty well. They've
Speaker 1: flashed in camp at least in my opinion so far.
Speaker 1: Tony guys like Chark obviously you expect um, but Conley
Speaker 1: has had his moments. Cole had a couple of really
Speaker 1: nice reps today against the C J. Henderson and the
Speaker 1: rookie corner Chinault. Just walking across the field, you can
Speaker 1: tell he's got something special. And and then Colin Johnson
Speaker 1: has that height to him. So Tony, they've they've got
Speaker 1: some pieces here, it feels like to me. Now the
Speaker 1: question is when the lights come on, can that equate? Well,
Speaker 1: it's interesting so and I haven't watched every practice on
Speaker 1: tape um, but you're right, they do flash and they're impressive.
Speaker 1: They're young, though, and so that's the question. Outside calmly,
Speaker 1: you wonder, you know, you don't have a lot of
Speaker 1: experience in that group, and so it's a little bit
Speaker 1: of still prove it to me type of situation. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously had a great year last year, but it's one
Speaker 1: year I think he's dinna have a great year this
Speaker 1: year as well, and I think so, No, it would
Speaker 1: be a nice piece. Um. You have to contemper your
Speaker 1: expectations sometimes with those rookie wide receivers because it can
Speaker 1: take some time to get going a little bit. But
Speaker 1: he definitely has all the tools, you know. But the
Speaker 1: interesting thing about for me about the passing game JP,
Speaker 1: and you've seen all the practices, I've not seen them all.
Speaker 1: There's times where it really looks good and I'm talking
Speaker 1: about Gardner, Minshew and the receivers, and we've seen some
Speaker 1: really accurate beat balls from Gardner and the guys who
Speaker 1: can go get it. But then there's times that this
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like the receivers and the quarterback are
Speaker 1: on the same page. I mean, I go back to Saturday,
Speaker 1: look at a round over the middle, and either Gardner
Speaker 1: was wrong where he thought Chark was gonna be or
Speaker 1: chart that you know, broke out over the middle when
Speaker 1: you're supposed to curl in. Um. And so there's been
Speaker 1: like a handful of those times that you're I'm watching,
Speaker 1: I'm like, hunt, it just seems like a little bit
Speaker 1: off throws might you would think be a little bit easier. Um.
Speaker 1: And whether it's you know, the route being wrong, ran
Speaker 1: at the wrong level, or turning out when you're supposed
Speaker 1: to turn in, or whatever it is. There's just been
Speaker 1: a couple of misques that happening camp. But because you
Speaker 1: have limited time and it is a lot of young guys, Um,
Speaker 1: you gotta clean that stuff up. Now. How many will
Speaker 1: they keep? Do you think, Tony? How many will they keep? Uh?
Speaker 1: Probably six? I think they keep six? Yeah, okay, so Chark,
Speaker 1: Westbrook Channel, who else? UM keep charm so no, I
Speaker 1: think those so not? I think uh Westbrook will be
Speaker 1: her four. Um, I think they keep John College. I
Speaker 1: think they keep in the rookie and then probably Keen.
Speaker 1: So you keep calling Keelan Cole. You know, because I've
Speaker 1: been reading some of this stuff and I have seen
Speaker 1: any practice, but it sat and talk to people, it
Speaker 1: sounds like healing Cole actually looks better. But for me today,
Speaker 1: the biggest concerned he might have looked good against c. J. Henderson.
Speaker 1: That's not a good thing for the defense. Keiling Cole
Speaker 1: beating up on c. J. Henderson your first round pick
Speaker 1: is not a good thing. And I know he was.
Speaker 1: That's if if that's a pattern. That's a bad look.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's a pattern. But let's not jump
Speaker 1: to conclusions here, Mr Priscoe, I'm not doing any day.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't happen if you're the first round pictures now a
Speaker 1: day like that. If you play enough, man, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get beat. I don't care who you are. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not keeling Colby Jalen Ramsey At times during the
Speaker 1: tenure here, so did you JP so to other people?
Speaker 1: M Yeah, you know, I'm kind of with you here, Tony.
Speaker 1: But because Henderson the first week at camp, everybody couldn't
Speaker 1: stop talking about how good he was. Yeah, yeah, we're not.
Speaker 1: Let's not pull this out of proportion. I mean fires
Speaker 1: and like you know, starting controversy. There's no place bust already. Tony.
Speaker 1: I'm a believer. I'm a buster and the kid. I'm
Speaker 1: a believer in the kid. I think he's a good
Speaker 1: cover corner. I think he's gonna be a good player.
Speaker 1: And that's not what you just said, Pete. It's a
Speaker 1: little You need to figure out what I was reading
Speaker 1: today that he got beat a budge, that's that's a
Speaker 1: concern he did. Where'd you read it? Twitter on on
Speaker 1: the websites and Twitter. Yeah, so there's a there's a
Speaker 1: couple of videos beat all the time, though it's a
Speaker 1: little bit of exaggeration, a couple of one on one
Speaker 1: kind of red zone drills back to back in fact,
Speaker 1: where then in the second JP JP you were there.
Speaker 1: If you had the grade C. J. Henderson's day, give
Speaker 1: me a grade um C minus. That's not good, but
Speaker 1: it's one day, okay, okay, j P. If you had
Speaker 1: the great C. J. Henderson over this entire camp, which
Speaker 1: is great plus, Okay, that's good. You're there. I'm not
Speaker 1: so I'd like to hear that. Yeah. I think he's
Speaker 1: been fine so far, and he is one day an illness,
Speaker 1: so cut cut him some slack. Pete. Well, look, I said,
Speaker 1: if it's a pattern, it's a problem, it's not then good.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a good player. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's a position to worry about. On that side,
Speaker 1: I think Herndon's a feisty little player. I think their
Speaker 1: corners will be better than people think they are. I'll
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I don't think there's an elite
Speaker 1: guy there, but I think they'll be better than people
Speaker 1: think they are. And if you want to say, where's
Speaker 1: your concern on the defense, and it's not the secondary
Speaker 1: per se, I think because I actually think the stafeties
Speaker 1: are and I think you know, Harrison's gonna have a
Speaker 1: better year. I think he'll get better. I mean, he
Speaker 1: has talent um, and so I think the safety will
Speaker 1: be will be okay as well. I'm with Pete. I
Speaker 1: think the linebacker level, I'm hoping that Myles Jacket will
Speaker 1: be a better situation for him. I think show Bert
Speaker 1: and upgraded at Mike after Jared Allen up front. Boy,
Speaker 1: I think you got a lot of questions. I agree, yeah, um,
Speaker 1: a lot of questions that the clock's running low on
Speaker 1: time to answer those questions. Not not a lot of
Speaker 1: time left in training camp here in and who knows,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of points this year, Fellas better score
Speaker 1: a lot of points this year, Fellas. But do you
Speaker 1: think this office is set to score a lot of points.
Speaker 1: I don't know what what he's gonna plan to do
Speaker 1: with him, but you know, sometimes Tony, you have to
Speaker 1: play to your defense and to me, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: you agree with me. You look at this on the surface,
Speaker 1: it looks like it's going to be a defense that
Speaker 1: struggles a little bit or a lot. And if that's
Speaker 1: the case, go try and score a lot of points.
Speaker 1: You know, don't play trying to miss my point. You're
Speaker 1: missing my point. Do you think they tried to only
Speaker 1: score an average of three points a game? Style? They
Speaker 1: are they explosive enough to score a bunch of points?
Speaker 1: That's my question. I don't know answer that question. I
Speaker 1: can question because right so, but again, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to score more points than you know. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they didn't want to score points. That's a
Speaker 1: stupid thing to say. But you gotta play a little looser,
Speaker 1: a little free, or let them go. If because that
Speaker 1: defense is gonna be a liability, would you not agree
Speaker 1: to be that the defense will be more of a
Speaker 1: liability than the offense. Yes, but I I hate with
Speaker 1: a passion when you start making comments they need to
Speaker 1: play a little more free and open, Like what does
Speaker 1: that mean? Because you say things that I don't think
Speaker 1: you can describe what that actually means. It made you
Speaker 1: throwing early downs more. I think they did that earl
Speaker 1: later in the year. But when mit you went back
Speaker 1: in there trying but they were also playing with a kid.
Speaker 1: They were playing with the kids starting a quarterback last year. Now,
Speaker 1: now you have a kid that's been at least been
Speaker 1: in this He's not been a system, but he's been
Speaker 1: with the team that they know what he's more familiar
Speaker 1: with his receivers, a comfortable quarterback, and he's what you
Speaker 1: think he is, then let him throw it early downs.
Speaker 1: I agree, But to say he's like, he's not an assistant,
Speaker 1: he's comfortable with It's a brand new office scoring. They
Speaker 1: have a brand new tight end, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's some peace. It's just I'm hoping you're right. I'm
Speaker 1: just it's it's a wait and see for me. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't seen it. Listen, I'm a big
Speaker 1: believer in some of the pieces they put together on
Speaker 1: that side of the ball, and starting with d J Chark,
Speaker 1: I love him, and I love the right tackle and
Speaker 1: I think Cam the waves looked. It's awesome, all great things.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of questions too. Well, let's put it
Speaker 1: this way. If the offense isn't prolific enough to score
Speaker 1: many more points this year than it did a year ago,
Speaker 1: they will be drafting Trevor Lawrence, how about that? Just
Speaker 1: put it out there. Have you done? Your done this
Speaker 1: record for all the team yet? No? And I by
Speaker 1: the way, we haven't cut the team yet either. Because
Speaker 1: we're not cutting the team. We haven't seen enough. I
Speaker 1: mean then the scrimmage yet. Yeah, you're three weeks. You
Speaker 1: know what? I love? Tony loves cutting the team. Hates it.
Speaker 1: He loves when we start talking mock drafts in November
Speaker 1: when they're out of how to playoff contention. I mean,
Speaker 1: all those things, they just get right under your skin.
Speaker 1: You hate that? Yeah, I don't love it, that's for sure.
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Speaker 1: If you're one of those guys that think you know
Speaker 1: everything and all that other stuff, you're you're gonna get
Speaker 1: yourself in trouble, you know. You know, it might look
Speaker 1: great in the press and everything. Oh there's this guy,
Speaker 1: eat confident, look at him, you know, but you know
Speaker 1: I'm I'm confident in what I do, but I'm always
Speaker 1: looking to get better. And those guys, um, you know,
Speaker 1: I've had help from everyone I rely on. You know,
Speaker 1: whether it's uh, you know, whether it's Keenan, whether it's Ron,
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, Ron Middleton, Keenan McCardell, whether it's
Speaker 1: you know Terry Robiski, who has has probably has the
Speaker 1: most experience out of everyone on us, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: but I'll also rely on some of the younger guys
Speaker 1: you know, and what they see. I like to get
Speaker 1: people's opinions, um. And the only thing I can't stand.
Speaker 1: I can't stand people that that they're gonna tell me
Speaker 1: what I want to what I want to hear. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I want people to be honest.
Speaker 1: I want people to be upfront at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. That's that's what's gonna give us a chance.
Speaker 1: Head coach Doug Marone earlier today, welcome in one hour down,
Speaker 1: one hour ago on Jaguars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick,
Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli. Glad you're along with us. Your
Speaker 1: social questions coming up? Um. The question of Doug there,
Speaker 1: guys was about I'm really about Macadoo, who will hear
Speaker 1: from a little bit later in the show and Jay
Speaker 1: Gruden their relationship and what do those guys bring to
Speaker 1: the staff working together, and then what can coaches learn?
Speaker 1: He has a lot of experience on the staff. I
Speaker 1: think there's a point there, and Doug Barone is open
Speaker 1: to hearing different different ideas on different topics, and and
Speaker 1: that's what that Tony, that's that's huge. Obviously you don't
Speaker 1: know everything, even if you're the head coach. No, I
Speaker 1: mean I think it's it's the smart thing to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have a staff for a reason. Guys
Speaker 1: have different respectives, have been at different places, They've seen
Speaker 1: it be done in different ways that have led to success.
Speaker 1: So you're always evolved, You're always trying to get better.
Speaker 1: I mean the saying that was true when I played,
Speaker 1: you're either getting better or you're getting worse. You're never
Speaker 1: saying the same applies the coaches and players of life.
Speaker 1: And so I think Doug has the right mentality and
Speaker 1: he's always trying to get better and and learn and
Speaker 1: how can you do it better? I love what a
Speaker 1: coach said as he doesn't want us, yes, man, he
Speaker 1: wants to be challenged. And and you've heard stories, and Tony,
Speaker 1: you know you've known guys and coaches and personnel people
Speaker 1: who don't want to be challenged. I know a scout
Speaker 1: that got whacked if by a team because he challenged
Speaker 1: the general manager in a meeting and he didn't want
Speaker 1: to hear it. And you can't have that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't know everything. And as a coach, you should
Speaker 1: open your mind. And as a personnel guy, you should
Speaker 1: open your mind. I want people to challenge me if
Speaker 1: I like a player. Uh As I say, I'm a
Speaker 1: scout or a personnel director and I like a player,
Speaker 1: I want my scouts to tell me why I should
Speaker 1: go back and watch him again. It's the same thing
Speaker 1: with coaching. If I'm a coach and I have an
Speaker 1: offensive player system that I like, I might want my coordinator,
Speaker 1: my receiver, coach to come over to me and say, hey,
Speaker 1: why don't we do this and this will work? We
Speaker 1: should try this. And I think a coach with an
Speaker 1: open mind is a good thing. A coach with a
Speaker 1: closed mind is a dangerous thing. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: think that could go through any anything in life. For me.
Speaker 1: If you if you have the did you know everything,
Speaker 1: You're in trouble. It's one of the reasons I worry
Speaker 1: about you be because you think you know everything, and
Speaker 1: it's a big it's a big flaw character flaw that
Speaker 1: you have that it concerns me. I mean, you should
Speaker 1: probably listen to the things you say about other people
Speaker 1: and try to limit yourself. No, Tony, what I was
Speaker 1: gonna say is, I think one thing that we've done
Speaker 1: on this show is you've evolved. When we first started,
Speaker 1: you were hardheaded, you yell at fans, you'd yell at me,
Speaker 1: And now we've toned you down a little bit, so
Speaker 1: you've opened your mind. You're not a closed minded lug
Speaker 1: like you used to be. I don't think I ever yelled.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever yelled at fans. I think
Speaker 1: that's a little bit. Yes you have, Yes you did,
Speaker 1: Yes you did. Revisionist history, send out, send out a
Speaker 1: Twitter polls as Tony VASSELLI yelled at fans on this show,
Speaker 1: yes or no. Never, maybe like a passionate conversation, but
Speaker 1: never yelled. Yeah, um yeah he yelled. Hey. Back to
Speaker 1: the coaching dynamic here, Pete. Obviously Jay Gruden former head
Speaker 1: coach in Washington in that division, Ben McAdoo, is that
Speaker 1: so not too for the New York Football Giants. They're
Speaker 1: both now on staff here, Um, what about that relationship?
Speaker 1: And and obviously the past is the past, and they're
Speaker 1: here to get this Jaguars team better. But it's gotta
Speaker 1: be an interesting dynamic in that room. Well, it's great
Speaker 1: to have guys who've experienced it from the top, and
Speaker 1: and granted neither one of them had great success experiencing
Speaker 1: it from the top, but maybe sometimes you're just a
Speaker 1: position coach or you're just an offensive coordinator. That's okay,
Speaker 1: that's fine. And Jake Gruden was a good offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: before he was a head coach, and I think that's
Speaker 1: a good thing for Gardner Minshew. It's a good thing
Speaker 1: for Doug Baronne. He has a guy or guys on
Speaker 1: his staff that who have been head coaches, and he
Speaker 1: can lead on them a little bit in certain situations.
Speaker 1: I like the dynamic of the staff. I'm curious to
Speaker 1: see Minshew in the offense when the thing gets cranked up.
Speaker 1: I think it fits what he does getting the ball out,
Speaker 1: but again, we don't know until you actually play real games.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good staff. I'm a big believer
Speaker 1: in Keenam Cardell. I've known him for a long time.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go big places in this league
Speaker 1: as a coach. I think he's gonna be a coordinator
Speaker 1: soon enough, and then and then maybe a head coach.
Speaker 1: So I like the staff, particularly on offense, and I
Speaker 1: think defensively they have some good coaches. So it's a
Speaker 1: good staff. Now the question becomes, if you don't win,
Speaker 1: what happens to that staff? They're probably all gonna be
Speaker 1: looking for jobs. That's the scary thing now though they
Speaker 1: have a chance to show that they belong and should
Speaker 1: stay longer. What do I wonder what that you bring?
Speaker 1: I mean, now I'm gonna do something that Pete does
Speaker 1: that I hate, like jump like eight steps ahead of
Speaker 1: what we should be talking about. But you brought it up.
Speaker 1: How many games do they need to win? I mean,
Speaker 1: because that's a I mean there's so many like variables
Speaker 1: out there and so many you know, influences that this
Speaker 1: staff had nothing to do with them. You know, COVID
Speaker 1: and no off season and everything by you know video,
Speaker 1: and it makes it really hard in a young team.
Speaker 1: On top of it, what do they have to do?
Speaker 1: What success? What do you think success? You know, forget
Speaker 1: about whether they get fired or not. I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about that. What is what would be successful
Speaker 1: in your mind for this team this year? I'm not
Speaker 1: jumping ahead. I want to stay right here and focus
Speaker 1: on the now. I never jump ahead, I never pushed forward.
Speaker 1: Stay right here, but elly, I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 1: I just want to stay right here and talk about
Speaker 1: the now, not looking to the future. Okay, that's you,
Speaker 1: that's your that's you. By the way, No, what success? Five? Five,
Speaker 1: five would be success? In my mind? Six five would
Speaker 1: be outstanding. Six six will be six wins. So you're
Speaker 1: saying five would be success. That's one lesson. They won
Speaker 1: last year, pete six. You're telling me that it's six. Well,
Speaker 1: a six with this team at six, I said it
Speaker 1: last year, the rebuilding, reloading. So SI, what do you
Speaker 1: think successful? Hold on, I'm not I'll tell you in
Speaker 1: the second I'm asking you. You're telling the fans of
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars were listening to our our show and
Speaker 1: expect expertise analysis from you that if they win six games,
Speaker 1: the fan base should be happy and said we're on
Speaker 1: the right track as a football organization. That's not what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm saying that if they win six games,
Speaker 1: if they win, you, I think they're gonna push. They're
Speaker 1: gonna push to win six games. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's if the fans out there are listening my expertise,
Speaker 1: this team is well, that's what I'm telling you. I'm
Speaker 1: not ask you that. I'm saying, what would it be
Speaker 1: deemed as successful for this coaching staff at the end
Speaker 1: of the year. If they did this, this, and this,
Speaker 1: that's successful, Like they did a good job and they
Speaker 1: should have their jobs back in the following year. Like
Speaker 1: what success they have to if they keep their jobs,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to win eight or nine games. So
Speaker 1: you're saying success is eight or nine games in because
Speaker 1: a second ago, that's keeping your job success. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what it is. No, eight or nine
Speaker 1: is unlike success to me. Pete, Well, it sounds like
Speaker 1: success with what they have there. That's that would be
Speaker 1: a successful season. You know what real success would be
Speaker 1: going over in sixteen and getting Trevor Lawrence. That's real success.
Speaker 1: I mean, JP, I don't even know where to go
Speaker 1: with this because I've heard like fifteen different numbers thrown
Speaker 1: out there, um, and so I'm a little bit confused
Speaker 1: right now. I think six, he's an eight, he's a
Speaker 1: zero zero with the roster that they have success is
Speaker 1: five or six wins for the coaching staff to stay
Speaker 1: successes eight or nine wins, Like you're you're moving the
Speaker 1: ball over not over the chess board right now. So
Speaker 1: let me let me be very clear to our fans
Speaker 1: and the people listening to JP. UM. I think to deem,
Speaker 1: this is a successful year for Don Morone and his
Speaker 1: coaching staff. They need to improve by at least two games,
Speaker 1: and they won six last year. They need to win
Speaker 1: eight games this year to say, you know what, we're
Speaker 1: going in the right direction. Um, we've built this, we're
Speaker 1: starting to build that. We have a foundation there for
Speaker 1: the future, and so let's get We need to get
Speaker 1: to at least eight games. I think that would be success.
Speaker 1: We agree, we agree. What do you think would be
Speaker 1: a successful season? That's what I just said. So you
Speaker 1: think they don't get eight wins, that's not a successful season.
Speaker 1: That that again, if they don't get eight wins, it's
Speaker 1: not a successful seasons. What's your saying to forget Doug
Speaker 1: Barrowne and his coaches to I'm talking about Tony Vaselli.
Speaker 1: What is a successful season for the Jacksonville Jaguars as
Speaker 1: as an organization. Yes, you have to. You have to
Speaker 1: show progress. And I think if you win six games
Speaker 1: or less, you're not showing progress. Now. The only caveat
Speaker 1: to that that I'll put out there is if you
Speaker 1: if you win five games, but Gardner Minshew and you
Speaker 1: just have your defense because it's decimated by injuries and
Speaker 1: everything else and opting out and you can't stop anyone
Speaker 1: to save your life. But you start to see an
Speaker 1: offense that is productive and Gardner Minshew's, you know, four
Speaker 1: thousand yards and thirty touchdowns and twelve picks. That success
Speaker 1: even if you win five or six games. So you
Speaker 1: have to see progress. All I was saying. That's why
Speaker 1: I think it's it's not just wins and losses. So
Speaker 1: if you're asking me wins and losses, it is eight wins,
Speaker 1: So you're showing improvement there. Then I would say improvement
Speaker 1: from the young quarterback and offensively that you were showing
Speaker 1: that you can score points in your productive unit, which
Speaker 1: they were not last year. That would also be a
Speaker 1: metric of success for me looking at it. And so
Speaker 1: that you know, wins obviously, this is what you're all
Speaker 1: we're all graded on. As in the NFL's wins and losses.
Speaker 1: And then secondly, it's the production and improvement of your
Speaker 1: quarterback in your offense um from a from what you
Speaker 1: do on the field. Those are the two things I
Speaker 1: think I would be looking at. Let's let's just say this.
Speaker 1: I'll throw this out there, Gardner Minshew throws forred yards,
Speaker 1: thirty four touchdown passes, thirteen interceptions. The offense is explosive
Speaker 1: and they still go for a twelve successful season or not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say yes, because that means you just had
Speaker 1: the worst defense. Now, I think it would be changes.
Speaker 1: There could be changes with the coaches staff, but with
Speaker 1: the head coach. And when you say, I mean, are
Speaker 1: you gonna get rid of your offensive coordinator that just
Speaker 1: came in and did that? Got rid of the head coach?
Speaker 1: Would so I mean yeah, I mean that we're going
Speaker 1: down the path that people losing jobs and not losing that.
Speaker 1: That was my point of this conversation. At the point
Speaker 1: was what would be successful this year? And I think
Speaker 1: the metric that everyone's measured by in the NFL wins
Speaker 1: and losses, and so you have to start there. And
Speaker 1: so if it's not better than last year, and then
Speaker 1: it's not successful we agree, Tony, we agree for those guys, Yes,
Speaker 1: we do. Success for the coach you you don't understand me.
Speaker 1: For success for the coaching staff, it's eight or nine.
Speaker 1: My uh, the definition of success is five or six
Speaker 1: because I don't think they're very good. I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna be feisting, staying games and maybe score some points.
Speaker 1: But I don't think they're gonna win a lot of games.
Speaker 1: So if I think they're gonna win three or four games,
Speaker 1: if they get the six, in my mind, that success.
Speaker 1: But not as an organization. That's not like your best argument. No,
Speaker 1: as an organization they got I'm with you, they have
Speaker 1: to show progress, like I like, you actually would have
Speaker 1: a decent argument if you to start and saying, you
Speaker 1: know what successful this organization is is going on sixteen
Speaker 1: and getting Trevor Lawrences your quarterback, because now you have
Speaker 1: a quarterback for the next ten years. Like if you
Speaker 1: have said that, now I would argue with you, and
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I don't consider that success. I don't
Speaker 1: think you go to a season like that, but at
Speaker 1: least out of made sense you're like going from you
Speaker 1: would argue with me no matter what. Nine to zero,
Speaker 1: no matter what you can't know you are not. There's
Speaker 1: different there's different definitions of success. No, the coaching staff
Speaker 1: success is different than my determination and what's successful, and
Speaker 1: it should be different than what your determination is to
Speaker 1: be successful. You different, like you just said if you're
Speaker 1: talking about yes, you do. You just said it. If
Speaker 1: they if they had an explosive offense and Minshooth just
Speaker 1: showed a bunch of progress and they would five and
Speaker 1: and eleven or six and ten, you would say that
Speaker 1: was a success correct over offensively, Yeah, because you have
Speaker 1: a quarterback now, like you check the box, you have quarterback.
Speaker 1: But is that a success? Yes or no? Success? Definition
Speaker 1: of success yes or no? For the organization? Yes, having
Speaker 1: quarterbacks at that position. Yes, I rest my case. I
Speaker 1: rest my defense. I rest my case. That wasn't the question.
Speaker 1: A few notes of the day today and maintenance day
Speaker 1: again today. Twenty four players were held inside today getting
Speaker 1: full work according to Doug Marron, just not on the
Speaker 1: practice field and pads. Guys on the field today were
Speaker 1: some of those that Maron wants a little more of
Speaker 1: a look at, or certain matchups in teamwork or one
Speaker 1: on one work. Today. Tavin Bryan has a bone bruise
Speaker 1: in his knee. Dd Westbrook has a shoulder issue. Both
Speaker 1: or a week to week according to the head coach,
Speaker 1: Jack's practice again tomorrow. Players are off on Wednesday, Thursday
Speaker 1: and Friday practices and then a Saturday scrimmage coming up
Speaker 1: in the stadium. Let's come back, gentlemen. We'll get into
Speaker 1: the quarterback room a little bit. Gardner Minshew was held
Speaker 1: off today. We'll hear from Ben McAdoo, the quarterbacks coach.
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Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. But it's the ultimate team game
Speaker 1: and and all you know, the entire roster. You know,
Speaker 1: they have a out to do with the success of
Speaker 1: the quarterback and um but I do think Gardner is
Speaker 1: a guy that, uh you know, he has that the
Speaker 1: the instincts on where to go with the football, and
Speaker 1: you know, he's an accurate player and uh you know
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of uh you know, he makes
Speaker 1: the game fun. It's definitely not a death march with uh,
Speaker 1: you know, with Gardner and uh you know that those side,
Speaker 1: those kind of things make it fun to me. Like
Speaker 1: I told you before, he's a fun player to coach. Shadrick, Pete, Priscoe,
Speaker 1: Tony Vasselli Each Monday on t t x L a
Speaker 1: M Radio, at Jaguars on social media and Jaguars dot Com.
Speaker 1: It's our first conversation with Macado and Peter. I found
Speaker 1: it interesting. I guess I hadn't really realized he's been
Speaker 1: out of football the last couple of years since he
Speaker 1: got fired by the Giants. He does, he's been living
Speaker 1: down south of here in Florida, and he's moved up
Speaker 1: a little bit closer, he said, but gave him time
Speaker 1: to be around the family. But you know, he's a
Speaker 1: football coach. He said at the end of his press
Speaker 1: conference that he'd he would coach pretty much anything, and
Speaker 1: here he is back with a quarterback that they're trying
Speaker 1: to develop and get better for this organization. You know,
Speaker 1: what did you make of McAdoo when he was the
Speaker 1: head coach of the Giants And how does something like
Speaker 1: that change a guy like Ben Well, It wasn't a
Speaker 1: great head coach, Let's be honest about it. And the
Speaker 1: proof is in the pudding. But he's had success at
Speaker 1: times in his career running offenses and being part of
Speaker 1: good offenses. So I think it's a good hire for
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. It's you know, a former head coach, been
Speaker 1: around good offenses in his career, understands the passing game,
Speaker 1: understands the offense. Uh And I think it's good for
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. Again, when you have two former head coaches,
Speaker 1: one of the offensive coordinator, one is the quarterbacks coach,
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. And so it'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: see what happens this This could be the type of
Speaker 1: year if Minshew has a year like Tony's talking about,
Speaker 1: possibly haven't. If he has that kind of year, that
Speaker 1: can only enhance mcadoo's credibility around the league. Maybe he
Speaker 1: gets an offensive coordinator job, and then who knows. Uh So.
Speaker 1: But again I said something earlier that I still believe
Speaker 1: sometimes guys are just position coaches or coordinators. Maybe Ben
Speaker 1: mcadoo's just a good position coach or just an offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Not everybody's a head coach, Not everybody's cut out to
Speaker 1: be a head coach. Well, I mean, I agree with you,
Speaker 1: But you know the interesting thing about Ben McAdoo. If
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, his first year the Giants, he won
Speaker 1: eleven games. Did you take the team to the playoffs
Speaker 1: in sixteen when he was that coach? Beat Yeah? But
Speaker 1: then you go off a cliff Tony. Listen all I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's interesting. He was there for two years, if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, won eleven games year one, and he had
Speaker 1: off a cliff, Yes, and they had the second worst
Speaker 1: record in the NFL. Um it was. It's just interesting
Speaker 1: how quickly that disintegrated underneath him in New York after
Speaker 1: having a good year. Unless I'm getting my years wrong,
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure. Yeah. And he was also the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for kauf On that you know, for two
Speaker 1: years too. I mean, look, the guy's the guy Green Bay.
Speaker 1: He's good. You know, he was involved with the quarterback
Speaker 1: he was the quarterbacks coach there. He's been around good offenses.
Speaker 1: And he's not an old guy. And this is a
Speaker 1: young guy relatively speaking. He's forty three years old. I mean,
Speaker 1: why would he be out of coaching for two years?
Speaker 1: Who knows? Um? But again maybe he just you know,
Speaker 1: one of the regroup and spend time with the family
Speaker 1: like you said, this is a chance for him to
Speaker 1: show people that he can still do it and get
Speaker 1: another opportunity, maybe to be an offensive coordinator. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just interesting. You don't see a guy who wins the
Speaker 1: leven games and now he won three the next year,
Speaker 1: and so you wonder if there's more issues in the
Speaker 1: building as far as his leadership styles the head coach um,
Speaker 1: But he obviously knows how to coach from Paul. He's
Speaker 1: had success and I think you know he's a good
Speaker 1: asset and a good good guy to having the building
Speaker 1: conduct borrow, wasn't it too? Was No? Three? Now I'm
Speaker 1: looking at it beat right. Well, then they used to
Speaker 1: call him macadone, didn't they. Yeah, that's you're you're you're
Speaker 1: the national guy. You could tell us what they set
Speaker 1: up in New York. We're not sure. Let's just stay
Speaker 1: on the quarterback. You know, we've we've talked to Ben Show.
Speaker 1: We know he's the starting quarterback here. But today especially
Speaker 1: we got to see the rest of them, Glenn and
Speaker 1: Dobbs luting with only ones on the field taking reps today, Tony,
Speaker 1: from the tape that you've seen, what is the quarterback room?
Speaker 1: Opening day? I would only keep I mean I would
Speaker 1: keep too, I would keep Glennon and Minshew, and I
Speaker 1: put Luten on the practice squad because I think you
Speaker 1: have sixteen guys in the practice squad and they're gonna
Speaker 1: have some freedom, I think based on you know, this
Speaker 1: COVID environment of how they manage that up and down.
Speaker 1: So I put Luton as the third UM. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: keep him active. I put him, again, like I said,
Speaker 1: in the practic squad. And I don't think that I
Speaker 1: don't think there's a place for probably on this roster
Speaker 1: for Josh Dobbs. I've heard Luton's look pretty good and
Speaker 1: throws the ball very well. Is that true? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can spin it, um, but I think he was thinking
Speaker 1: you want you saw that at Oregon State he could
Speaker 1: spin it. But I've heard he's looked pretty good at
Speaker 1: times in this camp throwing the football. And that's so again,
Speaker 1: it's not like he's gonna be exposed playing in a
Speaker 1: preseason game. So if he didn't get drafted until he
Speaker 1: got drafted, nobody, nobody's gonna know what he's doing on
Speaker 1: the practice field. So Tony is correct, you probably put
Speaker 1: him on the practice squad and then if something happens,
Speaker 1: you activate him easier to do. Yeah, so I think
Speaker 1: that's what it looks like. Alright, guys, let's get a
Speaker 1: couple of social questions in Tony your face. Here we
Speaker 1: go week, got a couple, got a couple this week? Um,
Speaker 1: you know we need we need more of a response
Speaker 1: is what we need to be quite honest with you.
Speaker 1: You know what we need. We need the yelling bassellly.
Speaker 1: We need yelling BASSELLI back because he used to get
Speaker 1: more questions when he was a yeller and they'd irritate him.
Speaker 1: So let next week, let's say, if you can send
Speaker 1: in a question that irritates Tony, he's gonna yell like
Speaker 1: old times and get get us back into the spirit
Speaker 1: of things. Well, now what but I will make sure
Speaker 1: I tweeted out the question next week on Monday morning
Speaker 1: like I did last year. And that's you know, obviously
Speaker 1: your followers are to usday Army, and I'll make sure
Speaker 1: I send out the question. Think it's a good question
Speaker 1: because Pete don't work so well last week. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you I didn't say I didn't send anything last
Speaker 1: week last number one. I did, and I mean JP did,
Speaker 1: and you retweeted it. So what's the difference of you
Speaker 1: sending it out? Because when I said, I think your followers,
Speaker 1: Pete are more interactive than Tony's followers, So that makes sense,
Speaker 1: you know, and it worked out on That's why. That's
Speaker 1: why he's got to start yelling again, because then he'll
Speaker 1: get more interactive with the followers. You get more interaction,
Speaker 1: he'll be much better. So start yelling next week or tonight.
Speaker 1: If somebody irritates it, It's like, let's go back to
Speaker 1: where we used to be used to screaming. Yell at
Speaker 1: the fans. You hear it. Take me, Pete, I start
Speaker 1: screaming at you. That makes you feel better? Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: take it. We gotta get something, MATI you what do
Speaker 1: you mean? Out? And I'm carrying the show you with
Speaker 1: your stupid takes. It don't even make sense. Bounce it
Speaker 1: all over the place like you. You know, who knows
Speaker 1: what you've been doing. I want argument as usual, but
Speaker 1: that's a whole another story. Social question number one gentleman
Speaker 1: at stew underscool winners as what side of the ball
Speaker 1: do you think is strongest for THISAGS team as of today?
Speaker 1: And will that be true by the end of the season. No,
Speaker 1: I think defense starts. It looks better early in camp,
Speaker 1: and I think you know, probably for the most part,
Speaker 1: you watch the eleven on eleven UH drills, you know
Speaker 1: probably lean slightly to the defense. But I think the
Speaker 1: offense will be the better unit throughout the year. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think you know they're gonna have to carry. I
Speaker 1: don't think this is a team that can win with defense.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're gonna be terrible. I think they
Speaker 1: probably end u the middle of the road somewhere. I
Speaker 1: don't think it will be the side of the ball,
Speaker 1: which we've been counting on for years based on the
Speaker 1: seventeen season, that really has to step up. I think offensively, um,
Speaker 1: there'll be a better unit, and I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to be if they want to win football games.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think it's all offense. I think
Speaker 1: the offense will be better. Here's a question, though, Let's
Speaker 1: just say the guys didn't opt out and the guys
Speaker 1: didn't get hurt. How much better would they have been?
Speaker 1: Isn't that a legitimate question. I mean, alt, I think
Speaker 1: and Gunter are there. Yeah, I think they helped. They're
Speaker 1: better against the run, right, you would think that, But
Speaker 1: how much better are they? They're still there's still gonna
Speaker 1: be a struggling defense, at least I think so. Well,
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, those big bodies make a difference.
Speaker 1: Pet in the run game. I think that. I mean,
Speaker 1: what is a guy who's proving he can play the run.
Speaker 1: He's a big body gunter. I think had a chance
Speaker 1: to really Uh, if you look at what he did
Speaker 1: in Arizona as a young player, Um, he was not
Speaker 1: a name a bunch of people knew, or it's not
Speaker 1: highly up. But I think he was an up and
Speaker 1: coming guy that was going in the right direction. So
Speaker 1: I do think the depth would have help at the
Speaker 1: very least. I'm not saying it would have made him,
Speaker 1: you know, a top five defense. But I worry about
Speaker 1: them stopping the run this year. I mean they couldn't
Speaker 1: last year. Um, and I worry about it this year. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, it makes sense to worry about it because
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a problem. But again, how much better
Speaker 1: would it have been without Woods and got there? That
Speaker 1: you'd say it would have been better, but how much better? Okay,
Speaker 1: you want me to give the yard per carry Okay,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna give up four point three yards
Speaker 1: per carrying. I think they'd give him three nine those
Speaker 1: two were there? How about that? Does that help you?
Speaker 1: What about Snacks Harrison? What about him? I mean, he's
Speaker 1: out there, But what about he didn't want to play
Speaker 1: in Detroit? He didn't retire basically or get cut. No,
Speaker 1: he's out there. They let him go. He wants to play.
Speaker 1: I mean, would he be somebody could bring in and
Speaker 1: help the run game? I think he could. I mean,
Speaker 1: once upon a time you can argue that he was
Speaker 1: one of the best interior defensive linem to stop in
Speaker 1: the run. And he's not. I mean, he's not an
Speaker 1: old I don't think he's an old He's not an
Speaker 1: old guy anymore or anything either. What is he thirty one?
Speaker 1: He could still be going there and help. But I
Speaker 1: don't know what kind of shape he's in. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the issue was in Detroit where they never
Speaker 1: been in great shape. No, I mean, is he a
Speaker 1: bad locker room guy? Was he cause him trouble? I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean I have no idea. I mean, why it's
Speaker 1: not only Detroit with his great team, why they let
Speaker 1: him go? I mean, there's always a reason, guys get
Speaker 1: let go to Pete. You know this, I mean, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure Dave calledwell and Doug and that
Speaker 1: group have done their homework and know what's out there,
Speaker 1: and they investigate it. We haven't, so I'm not going
Speaker 1: to speculate what the reason was, but there's um based
Speaker 1: on the defensive line depth right now. My guess is
Speaker 1: they've looked at it and made the determination at this
Speaker 1: time he doesn't help him as a player. As a
Speaker 1: player thirty one years old, he would help him. Now,
Speaker 1: you're right, we don't know if he's a problem in
Speaker 1: the locker room. I hadn't heard that though, but again
Speaker 1: I'm not and he and he's in shape, he could
Speaker 1: help them. Let's get one more social question, and this
Speaker 1: is from Jay McMahon. Underscore, what is this team ceiling
Speaker 1: in terms of wins? Well, let me I'll start with us.
Speaker 1: Every team's ceiling is sixteen wins. In the right games,
Speaker 1: they could win sixteen, right, thank you? We just I
Speaker 1: guess we touched on this earlier. But what do you
Speaker 1: think Pete five or six? That's that's what I think.
Speaker 1: If if they get more than that, kudos to the
Speaker 1: coach and staff and Gardner Minshire will be their long
Speaker 1: term quarterback. That that's exactly what I think because I
Speaker 1: don't see it again. I think they're gonna be tough
Speaker 1: in some games. I just don't think they're gonna win
Speaker 1: a lot of games. But if they get to eight wins,
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew will have established himself as the guy for
Speaker 1: the long term. That's how well Hill have to play
Speaker 1: to get the eight names. So is it eight or six?
Speaker 1: Just give me one number. I just want one, like
Speaker 1: five numbers. I think they're winning six, five or six
Speaker 1: that's okay, that's two or six from one number? What number? Five? Okay? Five? Okay? Um?
Speaker 1: I think their ceiling is ten games? Is their ceiling? Wow?
Speaker 1: I mean the ceiling. I mean that's I mean he
Speaker 1: goes away. Gardner plays great, you know, Josh Allen is
Speaker 1: you know defensive m v P C. J Henderson is
Speaker 1: a lockdown corner that you drafted him to be. Miles
Speaker 1: Jack makes the transition to will Leonard Fordet is running
Speaker 1: like in you know, playing like it's his last uh
Speaker 1: in the last year of his contract. Camerabms doing the
Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, I think ten wins. I mean that's
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew takes a step up over where he was
Speaker 1: last year, and it is proven to be your franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1: D J. Charcott wasn't a one year hit wonder, which
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be, and he shows that
Speaker 1: he could be a true number one. I mean those
Speaker 1: things happen. Yeah, I think they can win ten games,
Speaker 1: maybe eleven, but I'll say ten is my ceiling. Getta
Speaker 1: lock it. I didn't say that's what they're gonna win.
Speaker 1: I said it's the ceiling. How do you think they're
Speaker 1: gonna win? It is the first let's get that out there.
Speaker 1: On Twitter, Tony Vassilly says Jaguars to win eleven games.
Speaker 1: I said my ceilings. Now I didn't know. I think
Speaker 1: it's the question is what's their ceiling? Like, what's the
Speaker 1: most wins you can see them happen? And how many?
Speaker 1: How many do you think they're going to win? How
Speaker 1: many you think they're going I think it's right there
Speaker 1: in the middle, seven eight somewhere in there. Then you're
Speaker 1: stuffing around wild card one one one number not seven
Speaker 1: or right? What's your one number? By hey? Hey, okay?
Speaker 1: And how many do you think they're going to win?
Speaker 1: So you guys dance around that question. How do I do?
Speaker 1: It's around it? How many do you think? How many
Speaker 1: do you think that if I if I went through
Speaker 1: the schedule that a game by game analysis, I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna win eleven. Yeah, that thing we still have
Speaker 1: to do as well. We got Pete, we got to
Speaker 1: cut the game and we have to go. Please put
Speaker 1: that out nationally. If nobody will hire you wherever to
Speaker 1: do a Westwood One game, ton of it's tongue of cheek.
Speaker 1: I said the ceiling was ten, and they're like, they're
Speaker 1: gonna win eleven? What do I think? Um, it was
Speaker 1: a joke. It was a joke. Um, I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna win. I think they win seven games. Okay, I
Speaker 1: think they went seven. We'll go around the but is
Speaker 1: that successful? That's a big question. What about around the
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Speaker 1: as the corners, I could speak for the corners, we're
Speaker 1: all kind of the young guys are kind of just
Speaker 1: their listeners right now. You know, they're trying to soak
Speaker 1: in anything that you know. The other guys can teach them,
Speaker 1: can teach them. Coaches can teach him. So I haven't
Speaker 1: really heard too much yet. From the from the corner
Speaker 1: room and their receivers. I feel like they're the same too.
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody's just kind of like then, just
Speaker 1: trying to do their job, not too much, you know, talking.
Speaker 1: But as the year goes on and will probably we
Speaker 1: get into games, it'll it'll come out game day. That's
Speaker 1: Trey Herndon, Jaguar's corner back and its third season Welcome
Speaker 1: Back Jaguars Happy Hour, J P. Shatrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli,
Speaker 1: and I would say it's a little different feel in
Speaker 1: that cornerback room from the past couple of years around here.
Speaker 1: There's no Jalen Ramsey, there's no a J boy A,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's not loud in that room as of yet.
Speaker 1: You heard Trey there say maybe when when the lights
Speaker 1: come on, that will change a little bit. But just
Speaker 1: walking through the door, the environment is much different, Pete
Speaker 1: than it has been in the past around here at cornerback. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it used to be a position of strength
Speaker 1: and now it's a position of hope. I mean, you
Speaker 1: hope Henderson can turn into being a number one corner
Speaker 1: You hope Herndon continues to get better. Uh, if they do,
Speaker 1: then then I think they have a chance to be
Speaker 1: a good group. Hernd it proved last year he could
Speaker 1: be a nice fice the you know, number two corner,
Speaker 1: and he needs to continue to get better. And I
Speaker 1: think if Henderson could become a number one corner, it
Speaker 1: can become a good group again. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a position of hope. Now whereas when you
Speaker 1: had Boy and Ramsey, um, you know, it was a
Speaker 1: position of strength. It's not that anymore. And so I
Speaker 1: think that you know, you have to expect some growing
Speaker 1: pains along the way for both those guys. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean they're young players. I mean that's what I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what happens to young players. I think that's where
Speaker 1: you know, if you talk, wasn't it Bill Parcels And
Speaker 1: I don't want to attribute to the wrong legendary coach
Speaker 1: coach that says it's you know, it's it's hard to
Speaker 1: win with rookies. I mean, I mean, historically it is
Speaker 1: hard to count on and win with rookie not that
Speaker 1: it can't happen, but going into the season, you have
Speaker 1: to expect growing pain and guys to make mistakes. They're
Speaker 1: learning and I don't care how good they are, especially
Speaker 1: when they're surrounded with a lot of other good players,
Speaker 1: I mean young players. Um, it's one thing if you
Speaker 1: have a rookie a position surrounded by a lot of
Speaker 1: veterans and you can cover it up. I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: give me a perfect example. In nine, we had a
Speaker 1: very good team for Nando Bryant was a rookie starting
Speaker 1: at corner for that team, but he was surrounded by
Speaker 1: Carnel Lake, Um, you know, Aaron Beasley. I mean, you
Speaker 1: had a number of veteran guys on that defense that
Speaker 1: were around him, and so it made the transition easier.
Speaker 1: You look at c. J. Henderson, He's gonna be the
Speaker 1: opposite corner. Trey Herndon is really a second year starter,
Speaker 1: still a young guy. Now. D J. Hayden helps a lot.
Speaker 1: He's a veteran guy who's been around the block and
Speaker 1: is a very good nickel. You look at the to safeties,
Speaker 1: both young players, both full time starters last year. Um,
Speaker 1: and so that's where you start. You know, I think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some ebbs and flows. I think c. J.
Speaker 1: Henderson's to be an outstanding player, you know, I think
Speaker 1: he has the right makeup. I think he's competitive as heck,
Speaker 1: you have to be that at that corner position. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think it's natural. I think peach right, Um,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be natural to expect some growing pains. Alright, fellas,
Speaker 1: last week we we promised as we are all at
Speaker 1: our home sets. Pete hass behind him on his set.
Speaker 1: If you're watching on at Jaguars, I'm at home with
Speaker 1: a bookshelf and things behind me. Tony, where are you
Speaker 1: this week? Where a padded room somewhere? That's what it
Speaker 1: looks like. Another undisclosed location. C I a y undisclosed location.
Speaker 1: Last week, you guys. The point is you guys. Last
Speaker 1: week I asked that I give a book report on
Speaker 1: one of these books behind me. And how do you
Speaker 1: guys want to do this this week? I want to,
Speaker 1: But I think Tony's right though J p JP. I
Speaker 1: think Tony's right. If the book is on the shelf
Speaker 1: behind you, you should have read it already. You just
Speaker 1: read it. Not necessarily true, That's not necessarily true. There
Speaker 1: are books do you just haven't gotten to yet. All
Speaker 1: right around, go to the second level of your bookshelf.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you which book to pick. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go. You're gonna go to the one right
Speaker 1: in the middle. It's green with big white lettering. Yep,
Speaker 1: that one right there. It's probably a was eight football
Speaker 1: great writing about the national sport right up Pete Prisco's alley.
Speaker 1: It's a number of different articles over the years. That's
Speaker 1: not that's like little bits and Pete, that's not a book.
Speaker 1: That's like all I'm telling you exactly what it is
Speaker 1: you want to report in the book or not, Pete.
Speaker 1: It's short stories or newspaper stories. Great writing about the
Speaker 1: support of football over the years, newspaper articles. You read
Speaker 1: the cover and let cale you just spit off your mouth,
Speaker 1: your chin. That's that's a that's a terrible that's not
Speaker 1: a that's like a put together book of all stories.
Speaker 1: That's not a book that she forget that one. That's
Speaker 1: a cafard. Just grab one, Just grab the one to
Speaker 1: the far right, no matter what it is. Second shelf
Speaker 1: righte that shelf far right, whatever that is, pull it out.
Speaker 1: Baseball in Birmingham. It's a photo book in fact, mainly
Speaker 1: one book on there that he can read. Well, JP,
Speaker 1: you put one of all short stories and articles, and
Speaker 1: one's a picture book. Do you have a book on
Speaker 1: there that you actually can read from? Here's one I
Speaker 1: got one here, This is one I got in college.
Speaker 1: It's by Red Barber. It's called The Broadcasters, a great
Speaker 1: baseball broadcaster of the Red's most notably the Dodgers, and
Speaker 1: he finished with the Yankees. He was one of the
Speaker 1: first two broadcasters inducted in Baseball's Hall of Fame and
Speaker 1: seventy eight. And it goes through his career um starting
Speaker 1: at the University of Florida and then getting to the
Speaker 1: big leagues in Cincinnati, move being up to the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: He has some great articles, are has some great chapters
Speaker 1: in here about some of the big years and moments
Speaker 1: in Dodgers history, including that seven season where he was
Speaker 1: the lead broadcaster and Jackie Robinson's first year they went
Speaker 1: to the World Series and lost to the Yankees in
Speaker 1: just an epic World Series and forty seven and then
Speaker 1: his move across the river to to the Yankees that
Speaker 1: only lasted a few years though working with mel Allen.
Speaker 1: Great book about his career, and it goes into a
Speaker 1: lot of the detail of broadcasting and the xes and os,
Speaker 1: the Nuts and Bolts of Baseball Broadcast. Yes, you could
Speaker 1: be making that up because I never read the book
Speaker 1: and I don't even know who you're talking about. UM,
Speaker 1: tell me, what are you asking me to do that?
Speaker 1: I just gave you a book. You I trust you.
Speaker 1: My question is this, and then we can end this
Speaker 1: terrible idea of a segment that I came up with. Um,
Speaker 1: what is the one what's the number one takeaway from
Speaker 1: that book that you learned reading about Red Barber? I
Speaker 1: think his name was, Yeah, was his name Tony? Um?
Speaker 1: You know when I first got the book was in college.
Speaker 1: So you're trying to learn how to do number one takeaway?
Speaker 1: I don't mean just it's very simple. So like, what's like,
Speaker 1: you know what? I read this book and I learned
Speaker 1: this about being a broadcast. I learned the preparation it takes.
Speaker 1: You can't just show up in the in the box,
Speaker 1: you know. It's the other question is is there anything
Speaker 1: on that shelf that's not a sports book. I've got
Speaker 1: World War two on the air, which is um, okay again,
Speaker 1: it's a radio report, broadcasting, it's a broadcasting book, radio book.
Speaker 1: They're all broadcast radio or sports. So basically and we
Speaker 1: met Pete. You live in a cocoon. Expand your host,
Speaker 1: Expand your risings. We're gonna end this segment. That's a
Speaker 1: terrible idea of a segment, Tony. I must say one
Speaker 1: was a picture book, one was a short story book,
Speaker 1: and the other one with Red Barber. If we had
Speaker 1: coloring books, Tony would be interested. Um, did you have
Speaker 1: any idea that that was? Yeah, yeah, of course. I
Speaker 1: might have been alive when he was calling games. Probably
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Speaker 1: Can't waste to hear what you're going to say? What? No,
Speaker 1: it hit me And we're listening to Cable and Chason
Speaker 1: speak Um. One of the disappoints from here, amongst many
Speaker 1: in this COVID pandemic situation we have, is not getting
Speaker 1: to know these guys at all, because usually we'd be
Speaker 1: at camp, you're talking to them, you're around him, and
Speaker 1: we traveled with them on the road. Um, and that's
Speaker 1: not you know, that's not happening. And so it's gonna
Speaker 1: it's almost gonna be like this whole year. There's gonna
Speaker 1: be a whole class of guys that hopefully we're back
Speaker 1: to some normality next year and we're back around the
Speaker 1: team doing stuff and not all you know, kind of
Speaker 1: remotely like we are right now. We're got a lot
Speaker 1: of guys get to know because this is this whole
Speaker 1: rookie class. I mean JP, I mean you haven't even
Speaker 1: been around him. I mean nobody has out side of
Speaker 1: the coast. No occasional conference, that's about it. What about games?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna be doing games from the studio? I
Speaker 1: think we're still discussing that JP. JP mightn't have the
Speaker 1: latest there. We're still discussing how we're gonna be doing
Speaker 1: it and everything else. So that's all in flux as
Speaker 1: we try to figure out how both for the Jaguars
Speaker 1: and also for me waiting for Westwood One. Kind of
Speaker 1: how we're gonna handle that. I don't think the final
Speaker 1: decision has been made, um, And so yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a whole other things that we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: deal with. It's just weird. It's weird. It's I mean,
Speaker 1: like i'd be out for thirty days now and I'm nowhere.
Speaker 1: I can't I can't go talk to guys, can't go
Speaker 1: see new guys, can't go. So I text guys and
Speaker 1: say say, Okay, this guy's playing well, this guy's playing well.
Speaker 1: It's not the same. You're right, you can't get the no, guys,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's different, there's no question about it. But look,
Speaker 1: as long as we have a season, whatever way it
Speaker 1: works out, we'll all be happy for it. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: be happy. But it's still it's still one of the
Speaker 1: things that I missed because I love I mean coming
Speaker 1: football for me, um and like doing when Thursday nights
Speaker 1: for Westwood One. And it's not just you know, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be paid to play talk about football. That's nice,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, Um, But part of the joy
Speaker 1: of the be being a part of the Januars organization
Speaker 1: and doing games like that. And then also for West
Speaker 1: One is being around the game and being around the
Speaker 1: guys and on the field before end and you know,
Speaker 1: getting nuggets and talking to him and learning and sharing
Speaker 1: my experiences with them. And none of that's gonna happen
Speaker 1: this year, um, because even if we are traveling, I mean,
Speaker 1: because of the tiered approach and how they have the
Speaker 1: different tiers for the players, not like we're gonna be
Speaker 1: allowed on the field to go talk to him before
Speaker 1: the game. Um, I'll miss that, And that's one of
Speaker 1: the big disappointment disappointments for me in this COVID world
Speaker 1: were living right now. You won't miss the cold of
Speaker 1: Kansas City the last time we were on the field,
Speaker 1: but I'll miss it. That was great. I mean that
Speaker 1: like that's experience, and I mean that's but but Pete,
Speaker 1: you're right, like you couldn't You couldn't have written as
Speaker 1: well about that game without being there because you experienced
Speaker 1: the cold and you understood it and like you felt
Speaker 1: what was going on and post game you felt the
Speaker 1: energy of the Chiefs fans were going to the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl for the first time in fifty years. I mean,
Speaker 1: like that down on the field after the game with
Speaker 1: a microphone, getting guys our camera, getting guys on camera
Speaker 1: right after. You're right, you can't experience it if unless
Speaker 1: you're not there. Yeah, and that we would. Was it
Speaker 1: that week where you were in the parking lot pregame
Speaker 1: chattering with snow blowing or was that a different week
Speaker 1: that was the week before? Actually that was the week before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was no snow that week. Remember, Tony was just cold.
Speaker 1: It was bitter cold. That was. That was as cold
Speaker 1: as the Packers Giants playoff game for me, and then
Speaker 1: the playoff game in New England when the Titans played there,
Speaker 1: and then your playoff game in New England that one
Speaker 1: year was pretty cold too. Yeah. Let's touch on a
Speaker 1: few nuggets. Let's touch on a few nuggets around the
Speaker 1: National Football League. Safety Earl Thomas released by the Ravens
Speaker 1: in an announcement saying, quote, we've terminated in safety ear
Speaker 1: Old Thomas's contract for personal conduct that has adversely affect
Speaker 1: did the Baltimore Ravens end quote he was going to
Speaker 1: make a fully guaranteed ten million dollars salary even without
Speaker 1: this year's salary. If they can get that money, it'll
Speaker 1: leave him with twenty two million dollars for one year
Speaker 1: of service. Pete, Well, there was a fight in practice,
Speaker 1: he missed a couple of assignments, and and Chuck Clark
Speaker 1: was a young safety who was played really well for
Speaker 1: him last year, got into it with him. But it
Speaker 1: was more than that. It was late for meetings. He
Speaker 1: I heard, he was missed a walk through, wasn't as
Speaker 1: focused as he should have been, and he hasn't been
Speaker 1: a great teammate. And and the players, the leadership counsel said, look,
Speaker 1: we signed with Chuck, get him out of here, and
Speaker 1: they did. I'm okay with that. By the way, you
Speaker 1: don't see people knocking down the door to go sign him,
Speaker 1: do you. Well. I read a report today Pete that
Speaker 1: he missed a meeting because he said he had to
Speaker 1: get his car washed right, and he missed a walk through.
Speaker 1: I mean, it'll look now. The question is the question
Speaker 1: is is you'll see it. You're you're gonna see a
Speaker 1: he's gonna file a what's it called the grievance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a file of grievance because um, they're gonna take
Speaker 1: the ten million that is guaranteed, because the key phrase
Speaker 1: in that statement you read JP as they felt like
Speaker 1: it was convect detrimental, which gives the team the ability
Speaker 1: to cut a player in waiting any guaranteed money guarantee.
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas and his representatives will fight that. Yeah, here's
Speaker 1: the eye of the question. He'll sign a deal. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna get a ten million dollar year deal from
Speaker 1: Anybody's gonna get an incentive laden deal for a year
Speaker 1: from somebody, maybe the Cowboys. NFL commissioner Roger Gonnelle made
Speaker 1: an appearance on the YouTube series Uncomfortable Conversations with a
Speaker 1: Black Man, and he said that he wishes the NFL
Speaker 1: quote had listened earlier. In quote to Cullen Kaepernick regarding
Speaker 1: why he began kneeling in two sixteen, Pete, what do
Speaker 1: you make of the commissioners appearance? Well, why didn't he
Speaker 1: say that before then? Yep, yep, you have plenty of
Speaker 1: time to say it, and now all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he says it. Look, Karlin Kaepernick had issues, Don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong. As a player, you know, that's part of
Speaker 1: the reason why some teams didn't sign up. But he
Speaker 1: should have been in the league period, end of story.
Speaker 1: Should have been a backup quarterback in the NFL at
Speaker 1: the worst case scenario if he didn't, some teams offer
Speaker 1: him a chance to be a backup and he said
Speaker 1: he didn't want to, thinking, uh, well, I know he
Speaker 1: turned out at Denver early after he got cut right
Speaker 1: away never that was actually the year before. Remember they
Speaker 1: were going to go make a move for him and
Speaker 1: and sign him and he didn't want Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: Seattle inquired about it. There is also talking how much
Speaker 1: did he love it? I don't know. Um, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: is count is Colin Kaepernick one of the most UH
Speaker 1: sixty top sixty four talented quarterbacks in this league? I
Speaker 1: would say yes, without doubt, Yes, absolutely if you based it.
Speaker 1: If you based it around just that, then I would repeat,
Speaker 1: you should have been on a team unfortun really, Um,
Speaker 1: A lot of things go into um and I'm not
Speaker 1: even speaking just in the callin Kaepernick situation, but if
Speaker 1: you look at why guys get signed and don't get signed,
Speaker 1: like I guarantee you, Earl Thomas is probably one of
Speaker 1: the best thirty two safeties in the NFL. And there's
Speaker 1: a bunch of teams in one way Kaepernicks, Kaepernick wasn't
Speaker 1: loved in his locker room. I can tell you that one.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Kaepernick did anything wrong like Earl
Speaker 1: Thomas dies. I'm just saying there's always a lot of
Speaker 1: things that go into whether team signs a player or not. Obviously, um,
Speaker 1: the social injustice that Caled Kaepernick has stood for is
Speaker 1: frent and center right now, and it's a conversation that
Speaker 1: needs to be happy. He needs to be had. Tony
Speaker 1: was silly, Pete Frisco, I'm j P. Shadrick. No more
Speaker 1: book reports. We'll see you next week. It's Jaguars Happy
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