WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, August 24 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:09.000 It is Monday, August four. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:14.960 Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:23.560 TikTok's highest rated singing barbecue Chef K. P. Shadrick. I 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:28.000 have never never made one TikTok. I don't even know 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:30.440 how to do it. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, J P. 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:35.040 Shadrick on this Monday afternoon. As always, Pete Briscoe, Tony 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.080 BASSELLI join us, and we've got a program today with 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:42.520 these two maintenance days, another one today for the Jacksonville Jaguars. 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:44.199 Will get into the guys who were off to the 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.440 side of indoors today and what that really means. From 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.440 head coach Doug Marrone. A little more offensive line talk 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.720 George Warops book over the weekend about the state of 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:57.120 the left tackle position. We'll get Tony's thoughts on that, 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:01.280 some quarterback talk as well, social question or two, and 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.959 then we'll go around the National Football League. Pete, Tony, 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.960 what's up, Tony? How are we doing today? Well? I 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.800 got issues here, I got all kinds of video issues, 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.640 but I'm doing good, doing good. How are you guys doing? 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:21.680 What kind of Florida? What kind of issues. Yeah, I 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.080 can't see either, but that's okay. That's not a bad thing, 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:28.600 not seeing you two. I'm okay with that. We're in 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:34.280 high definition, Pete. Speak for yourself. High definition. It brings 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.039 out all your flaws even more so, j P. I 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.920 hate to tell you that. Oh wow, takes one to 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.600 know one, Pete. Thank you very much. You know, it 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:48.800 has been a positive day on the COVID nineteam front, 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.360 and in fact, well not a positive day, a negative day. 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.120 In fact, the league just a few minutes ago announced 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:58.559 some of the results from August twelve and twentieth that week. 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.760 In that span over a week there between August twelve 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:07.640 in August, they administered just over fifty eight thousand tests 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:13.959 to about NFL players and personnel, and they had zero 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:20.320 confirmed positives among players and only six among personnel. Pete. 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:24.120 That is pretty remarkable, it really is. And it's a 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:28.119 tribute to a the players because I expected a few 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.760 knuckleheads to go out and bring it back in once 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.520 in a while, but they haven't done that, which is 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.000 a good thing. Uh. And I think it's a real 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.600 tribute to the teams for the way they're handling things 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.200 and the money that the owners have spent to make things, 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.560 as you know, secure and as safe as possibly can be. 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.440 So it's a good it's a great look for the league. 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.959 You know, people, let's be honest about it. There were 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:52.920 many in the media who thought that this would be 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.280 a disaster. They predicted it. It's kind of like the 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.480 people in the media who predicted Florida would become the 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.520 next New York and that's clearly not happening. Uh, as 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.000 it relates to this virus. So I think that this 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.560 this is a situation where the NFL should be given 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:08.840 a ton of credit and by the way, the entire 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:10.920 offseason they should be given a ton of credit. Remember 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:12.880 in the midst of this thing, they said, oh, you 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:14.480 can't have the draft. The draft was one of the 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.720 best they've ever had. Then the you know, first it 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.280 was free agency, then the draft. They've moved on. They've 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:20.880 done a really good job with it. Let's hope it 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:25.480 stays that way. Wow, Pete being positive, it's a shocking 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.680 state of affairs here today on the Monday Show. Usually 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.280 you come out firing bullets and people and they're very 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.000 very nice to the league and everything else. I agree, though, 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.120 I think it's handled perfectly. Now. The real test, though, 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.520 is coming up. I mean, let's not let's be clear, 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:44.640 is once we get into the games and you have 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:48.800 teams working together and traveling and everything else, um, and 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:50.760 how do they manage if you do have a positive test. 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.880 What would have happened if the false positives that the 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.840 New Jersey Lab came up with happened the Saturday before 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:03.800 and NFL game and you had five six teams that 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:07.840 had significant portions of their rosters not really sick, not 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.480 even having COVID, but because the false positives wouldn't be 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:15.480 able to play a game. Well, I think what you 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.200 would do, Tony? As you put the push the game 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.799 off until Monday. It's not like, you know, you're playing 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.520 in the stadium with any fans, and fans aren't making 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.920 trips to go to games. You know there might be 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.200 some fans. Some of those stadiums won't have any fans. 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.040 You just push it to Monday, fix it, go back, 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.080 retest everybody so to make sure it's not a problem, 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.599 and then play the game on Monday. It's all doable. 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:39.320 You know, this is all What if it isn't What 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.080 if they weren't false positives what they're really positives, And 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.400 now you have significant number of players not be on 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.760 the player. I'm just saying, I think they listen. I 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.520 applaud the NFL. I mean they're doing a great job. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:51.560 I applaud the players to your point, because really it's 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:55.000 about the individuals taking care of their their business and 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.760 being professional. So I am a hundred percent aligned with you. 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:02.440 I'm just saying, um, I have. I'm kind of just 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:06.640 I'm tempering my excitement about where we are because I 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.159 definitely want to play football and watch football this year 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.279 and be a part of it and called games. But 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.120 we're still a long way to go, um to get 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.279 to that portion of it which will really determine whether 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:20.240 this is successful or not. But also they're young athletes. 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.159 You get you know how many guys have already had 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.120 it and then come back and already back on the 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.080 active roster. And it might happen where a guy sits 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.359 out one game, but he's back the next week. I 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.800 think that's a possibility, Let's be honest, Tony. Two of 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.240 the three on this show, I've had it, you and 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.360 me because I had it too and then I recovered 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.640 and it was like having a flu for me, and 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:42.160 I didn't, to be honest with you, I didn't even 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.360 know I had it, um so, and you you were 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.920 clearly in a different situation than me. But I think 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.280 it's one of those you know, we're young, active, athletic 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.760 guys are going to respond to it and bounce back. 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.800 And you look how healthy I am right now. Picture 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:00.960 of solid gold right here. Come on. Yeah, no one 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:05.720 is saying that. Watch nobody, nobody. That's what we were 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:09.320 all thinking about. Yeah, I mean, but and I hear you, 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.120 and I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying there's 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.239 you know, it's not just it's not just the players, 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.920 it's not just the young guys, it's the older coaches. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:19.400 And you have a lot of things that we have 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.600 to manage and really be careful about right now. And 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.080 uh so, I'm with you. I hope it's the case. 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.919 I hope that we get through it and we continue 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.960 to have to success that we pencil part. All right, 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:33.920 let's continue with the Jaguars talk now, and the Jags 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.200 back in the practice field today. But well, some of 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.640 the Jags were back in the practice field today. Twenty 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:45.599 four or so players were kept inside for maintenance to day. 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.640 It's the second time that's happened in camp so far 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:52.200 and it included today some big time names. Gardner Minshew 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.200 was one of those not on the original list, but 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.479 then once we got to practice, he wasn't on the 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.080 practice field either. They brought him back inside as well. 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:03.400 Doug Moron before practice today, explaining what a maintenance day 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:07.840 really means. Even though that you guys aren't able to 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:09.560 see them, I want to try to give you some 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.600 insight to what they do. Uh. You know, a lot 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.560 of those guys are for medical reasons in the past 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.160 that they've had issues with or in the past they've 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:23.560 had time struggling, you know, through a season, um for 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:27.000 odds and ends. But what we do is we try 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.240 to take the amount the workload that they would have 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:34.800 in a normal practice and try to simulate that, which 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:38.600 we can do because it's all monitored. So basically what's 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.160 happening is you have a team out there on the 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.560 field that that that that's practicing, and then the players 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.640 that are inside, you know, they're they're doing you know, 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:50.480 they're just having the same amount of tax on their body. 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.680 They're just not going through uh, you know, they're not 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:58.880 getting hit. So that's Dug Maroon before practice today with 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.080 a little explanation of what was to come. But it 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.960 was a little I don't know jarring is the right word, 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:05.680 but it was different not seeing a lot of those 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:10.080 big names out there. Tony, Yeah, and I hear what 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:16.240 Doug is saying. Um, but it's already a limited camp. 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:18.840 I mean, only what is it like what we end 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.840 up saying. It's eleven or twelve thirteen days, fourteen total 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:27.880 padded practices, eleven full time padded practices. Yes, so let's 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:31.600 just call it fourteen fourteen padded practices. Do you need 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:34.800 a maintenance day because you're hitting too much? I get 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.120 if you have an injury or something like that that 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:38.559 you want to be smart, but work. I mean, look 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.160 at that list. You have a bunch of young guys. 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:43.880 I mean, josh al Joan Taylor second, your players. Um, 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:48.680 it's hey, listen, they got science and um they know 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.280 their players better than we do. But I'm a little 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.959 bit surprised, to be honest with you, that certain guys 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:55.600 are on that list. It doesn't make sense to me 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.600 when you have only fourteen days of padded practices. Why 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:02.520 why you would give extended rest two really young players. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.000 You used to have fourteen days a pad of practices 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:10.840 in ten days. Yeah, the first week, the first week, 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:14.240 we'd have fourteen practices or like that. First you know, 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.000 I guess you're your first couple of days of two 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.520 days with no pads. So let's just call it dave 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.720 three or four your full pads and you go twice 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.960 a day every day. Um and listen, I'm not advocating 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:31.120 that that's the the right way either by any means, um, 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.240 but I I don't get it. I don't understand why 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:38.920 you'd have vacation or maintenance days or whatever you wanna 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:42.079 call the days for young players when you have limited reps. 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.280 This is a young football team. Let's not forget it's 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.640 a new offensive coordinator with a second year quarterback. I 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.439 just can't. I mean, unless Gardner Minshew has like dead arm, 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.960 which is so early, I can't believe it's that or 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.480 some injury we don't know about. Why would you not 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.120 give him every possible rep in a new offense with 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:03.080 new players or round him? Um? I mean Juwan Taylor, 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.480 cam Robinson. Um. Young guys need as many reps as 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:10.000 they can get. A guy got Josh Allen, who's um, 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:11.760 you know, up and comings and be counted on to 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:15.760 be one of the best players on this team. Again injury, Yes, 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.719 be conservative with injuries. I get that. But just a 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:22.240 maintenance day because there's too much hitting when you're only 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.240 hitting fourteen days. Um. So they started camp one day 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:30.480 JP August one, right around there. Uh yeah, yeah, right 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.920 around that window. But it was the ramp up. Yes, okay, 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:37.640 let's all so from August one to September that is 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:44.840 six weeks. You're gonna have fourteen hard practices. That's two 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:49.920 padded practices a week on average, maybe if you you know, 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.200 two point one or two point two. My point is, 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:57.640 it's not extending yourself. I mean that's just not it's 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.520 not it's not like they're doing nine on seven and 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:04.080 like tackling to the ground and go line and well 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:10.040 they have, yeah, but as it relates to the quarterback. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.800 As it relates to the quarterback, why on earth would 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:14.920 you give him a day off? I mean, it's not 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.280 like he's got a dead arm or anything. And make 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.800 that guy needs to practice more than anybody. He's the starter, 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.600 he's entering his second year. It's a new offense. He 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.480 should be on the field every single rep he can 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.760 possibly get that one. I don't understand at all. Maybe 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:33.040 a veteran day here and there. But I'm with you, Tony, 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.080 this this makes no sense to me with the limited 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.280 amount of time that you have. Now, I do know 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.000 they're gonna actually have a scrimmage in the stadium on 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.560 Saturday night, and it sounds like they're gonna tackle and 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:45.800 hit and go to the ground and it's gonna look 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:47.840 like a preseason game. And from what I understand, is 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:54.320 that correct? Yeah, I don't understanding. It has some. It 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.520 has some. It looks like a practice will have some 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.760 drills and all that early and then some eleven on 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.200 eleven work. That's the way I understand it as of 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.640 today on Monday. Of course I can build as the 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.839 week goes on. Here. But to to to your point 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.480 about tackling to the ground, they have been doing a 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:14.640 little bit of live working. May they have been doing 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.559 some Miles Jack tackling Leonard four Nette all the way 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:21.160 to the ground is alive rep. In my opinion, Tony, 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.200 I'm not disagreeing. I watched the tape on I watched 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:28.880 every play from Saturday's practice and they had eleven on eleven, 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.080 but they had one period where it was tackled through 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:35.160 the ground and it wasn't even the whole period um. 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:36.840 And so I'm not saying they're not so how many 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.800 guys tackled? How did the secondary get to tackle it 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.319 all in those drills? A little bit? Not much. I'm 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:55.400 just saying, yes, again, there's not enough tackling. Yeah, we're yeah, whatever, whatever, 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:58.920 what do you what are you saying? We're beating this, 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:03.120 We're beating thing to death? And but it is what 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.480 it is. They're gonna have maintenance days, and you're gonna 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:09.320 have second year players and quarterbacks that have played, you know, 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:14.680 ten games as getting maintenance days they have, Pete, I 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:18.920 hope it works. Pete. Is this a trend around the league? 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.200 Or is this kind of a one off? What's the 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:26.079 kind of guy? Yeah, guys are getting maintenance days, no 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.920 question about it. And I personally don't understand it. I 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.280 think you need to hit as much as you possibly can. 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:34.480 You only have the X amount of days to get 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.400 ready for the season. Uh, and you don't have preseason games. 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.760 Have granted preseason games, you might play ten plays in 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.040 the first one and you know, thirty, and then I 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.680 mean and then twenty, and then maybe fifteen eighteen, then none. 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.480 But you hit, you gotta hit. It's a football. Tony 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.720 can tell you better than any of us. You gotta 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.440 hit people. You gotta be able to understand the angles 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.120 when you're tackling. The speed of the game and thumping 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:58.920 a guy is not the same as putting them on 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:03.920 the ground. So I used to say tackling in practice 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:07.600 was dumb. This year it's different. You need the tackle 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.400 in practice. Somebody gets hurt as part of football, but 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:15.800 you still need to tackle. 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When I watched the film, Um, you know 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:46.400 he's definitely you know, he's it's been impressive, I said 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:50.359 coach Doug Morone earlier today discussing Caleb and Chaise on 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:55.680 the overall pick in the NFL Draft Jaguars defensive ended 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:59.520 linebacker Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour j P Shadrick, Pete 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.960 Frisco and Tony Boselli each and every Monday on at 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:06.960 Jaguars social media, Jaguars dot Com and Tin Tin x L, 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:11.760 a M Radio in Jacksonville. That's big praise, guys for 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.919 a guy who missed the first week or so of 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.639 what we would actually call training camp with pads. He 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:22.560 had a little hamstring ailment, but from the sound of it, 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:25.280 he wanted to be out there and maybe he's not 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.119 a hundred percent, but he's fighting through it. According to 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:30.560 Doug Morone today and Tony, that's a good sign when 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.120 you have a guy that wants to be out there 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:37.400 and is fighting through something to to show some things. Yeah, 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.879 the walk to Joe is important. I mean because you 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.560 don't want you want to be important to a guy. 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:46.159 And I think one of the ways you tell that 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:49.320 is the how anxious they already get on the field, 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.199 especially when they're coming through an injury. And if a 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:54.879 guy is willing to push it, um and try to 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:56.560 get back out there as quick as POSSI, that's a 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:58.160 good sign. I think it's a coach you always want 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.800 to be. You want to have to older reins back 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.280 on a guy like you want to. You want players 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:06.080 that you're saying no, we need you need to take 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:08.520 more time, you need to rest instead of you know, 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:09.879 the type of guy that you have to kick in 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:11.479 the rear end to get back on the field. So 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.440 it sounds like Chason is that type of guy, Um, 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:19.560 And that's a good sign. It's a great sign. Um. 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:21.440 You gotta be careful. You don't want anything to pop. 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:23.360 You know that Tony, that thing goes and he's gonna 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:24.960 be out for a while, so you gotta be careful 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.040 with it. But I'm with Tony. I think it's great. 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:32.320 You want to is something that the great players all have. 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:34.240 You got it want to be great, You want to 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:37.040 be part of it. It angers you when you miss. 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:39.600 And I think it sounds like he's that kind of 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:42.800 player and that's good. What does this mean now? What 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.280 is it Gockway gonna do? That's the question. I mean this, 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:49.239 this kid uh isn't has a chance to be a 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.120 really good pass ritter. I don't know if it's gonna 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.520 happen overnight. But what do they do with in Dockway? 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:55.440 You know, there's the there was the report last week 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:59.400 that ended up being erroneous. He is on the market, Um, 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:01.919 they would rate m. I I think they would do 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.600 that for the right price. But again it's a bad look. 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.960 So I'm that's one of the questions that's still out 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:12.040 there within Gockway. What do you do with them? Well, 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:14.840 you you're playing he's gonna sign that, he's gonna sign 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:17.120 that he's gonna sign that franchise tag. At some point, 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:21.679 you and I both know that he's not million dollars. 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:27.119 You're eighteen million dollars. Um, that's not gonna happen, and 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:29.359 so and I don't think and maybe there's a market, 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:30.960 but I don't think the market there for him. I 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:33.679 mean this late in the game. You know, if somebody 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:35.359 gonna give up a one. Well, if they were, we're 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:38.920 gonna give a one, or they would have done it already. Um, 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:41.480 And is there a player out there that would move 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:43.680 the needle enough for the Jaguars to make that trade? 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:47.200 Possibly an interior Defen's alignment where I think they're really 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:50.600 fan and they continued, I think there's gonna be some issues. 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:53.760 Could you can have some issues there this year? Uh? 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:56.200 But outside of that, I mean, is there a good 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:58.080 enough player that is out there that he would be 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:00.760 willing to trade pour in Gockway, Um, you know, to 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:03.000 the teams and think about it, but I don't see 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:05.040 it happening at this point. I think he's on the 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:06.720 team and because of that, I think he signs to 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:10.240 deal here. Here's the other thing, though, I mean, if 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:14.160 you have a good interior lineman, you're probably not giving 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:16.440 that guy up there hard to find not not. I'm 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:19.920 saying pass rushers are more valuable in this league. But already, 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:23.040 look at Minnesota lost Michael Pierce. Uh. You know you 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.639 saw Dallas had Gerald McCoy go down. I mean some 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:28.840 of the other big guys opted out. Uh, It's not 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:31.280 like there's a bevy of those guys out there. If 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:33.480 you wanted to make a deal, you could get a 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:35.879 second theer guy maybe and then a draft pick, but 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:38.959 is that worth trading him away? And part of the 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:42.400 things I think about it is the look of it. 0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:45.400 It's a bad look for the organization. Unless you get 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:49.000 wowed by a major offer, it's a bad look. You 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:52.480 had Ramsey grumble and moan his way out of town 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:54.800 and you've got a great offer, so you had to 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:57.240 do it. But if you do it again, then you 0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:01.919 have okay anybody in the building if you like your situation, moaning, 0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:04.200 grown about it and no trade yet, that's a bad 0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:06.000 look for the organization, which is why I don't think 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:10.560 they want to do it. Yeah, at some point, it's 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:13.320 gonna stop if if you're gonna keep guys around here 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:16.159 that you've drafted and counted on to to be the 0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:20.880 backbone of your organization. Um, well, let's continue on defense. 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:24.439 On the defensive line here, guys. Tavin Bryan a bone 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:28.440 bruise in his knee that popped up during that Saturday practice. 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:32.040 He walked off with a trainer under his own power. Um, 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.119 but it's week to week, Doug Maron said today, And 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:36.080 that just adds to the list of things that had 0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:38.880 happened on this defensive line already. Know two top free 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:42.199 agents are not around. Other guys are hurt or have 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:45.760 retired two suspensions at the start of the season, and 0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:49.440 Carl Davis and Josh Morrow they're not available. So, as 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.520 you said, Tony, you know it's a group that is 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.360 relatively thin. They've got Journey in there, and he's flashed 0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:57.119 a little bit the first few days of camp. What 0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:59.440 have you seen out of Journey Gain on that tape 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:02.960 you've washed? You know there's moments. I mean, he has 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:05.040 some nice place in that Saturday practice. You know, he's 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.720 a big explosive guy that you know, you know he 0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:10.280 still has it in him. The question is how many 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:12.600 does he have in him per game? And so how 0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:14.920 often can he stay out there? Can he hold up 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:17.879 uh playing and play out That would be my big question. 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:20.680 But he has flashes, There's no doubt about it. Um. 0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.160 I mean you look at Taman Brian I said it before. 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:24.840 He had to be a guy that was one of 0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:27.320 your studs. He had to be your starting three technique 0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:30.119 and he had to be disruptive. Um. He had shown 0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.800 some nice things on tape and you can see the 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.800 explosives of strength. Um, the question is canna go find 0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:37.639 the ball that's always been you know, he is he 0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:39.920 maturing there it looks like he's doing better and better, 0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:42.879 but with a bone bruising him out. That is like 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:44.760 I Doug said it perfect, it's week the week, it's 0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.760 where where is the bone bruise? Uh? And what is 0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:49.960 the severity of it? And so just to everyone listen 0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:52.480 to you get a bone bruise I've having before. Uh. 0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:55.680 And if they're at a weight bearing portion of your knee, 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:59.320 it's basically a bunch of micro fractures in your knees 0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.600 where the bone bruise ends up being. Um. And if 0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:04.760 you don't let it heal, it can be lingering in 0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:07.320 a real pain and you know what. Um. And so 0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:09.399 depending on this verity of it where it is in 0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:12.120 the knee, you know, we'll determine how long he's out. 0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:15.919 Hopefully it's mild uh, nothing too serious and uh he 0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:20.359 can be back, you know, you know a week or something. Tony, 0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:26.440 how did Hamilton's look on the table. He's a big body. Um. 0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:29.040 You know he's gonna think when you're gonna get out 0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:30.720 of him. As he gets more comfortable, he's gonna be 0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.639 a big run stuff in, you know, eat up space 0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:36.040 type of guy. Um, you can still see he's a 0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:38.480 little bit slow reaction wise. He's not gonna get me 0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.520 much in the pass rush right away. Uh. And so 0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:43.520 I think you know that's who he is. I think 0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:45.679 he I think him and Avery basically rotate at that 0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:51.719 nose positions would be my guests. They could use an 0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.879 impact right away from a guy like Hamilton's for sure. 0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:59.800 And have to define what does impact mean because a 0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:01.359 lot of people when you say and saying, hey, we 0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.240 want to impact from a guy on the defensive, linem 0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:06.439 pick a fat sacks and big plays and you know, 0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:08.960 all this different stuff. An impact for him might just 0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:13.520 being a rotational player that helps you solidify against the run. 0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:15.760 And it might not show up a bunch of the stats, 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.720 you know, tackles and tackles for losses and sacks and 0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:22.240 stuff like that. Um, but where you turn on the 0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:24.159 tape and he's doing his job and free it up, 0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:27.240 show Burton and Miles Jack and we make plays and 0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:30.280 he's eating them double teams and everything else. So and 0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:33.000 I always say that because as people listen, you know, 0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:35.960 sometimes the impact isn't what you think. It's not the 0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:39.080 stat sheet, it's not the flashy stuff. Um, they need 0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.199 guys to do their job up front. This is a 0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:44.640 team that was really bad against the run last year, 0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:47.399 and they're gonna be guys like Hamilton's step up if 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:51.320 they want to fix that. Yes, sometimes it's the snaps 0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:54.040 you might get spelling a guy and if you play 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:55.840 well and those and then give that guy a blow 0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:58.080 and then he can come back in and and do 0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:01.000 his thing. That that's where an impact be to your point, Tony, 0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:03.240 for sure, Hey, let's come back. We'll go offensive line. 0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:06.320 When we come back, we're gonna hear from the offensive 0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:11.000 line coach George Warhop discussing the left tackle position and 0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:16.719 setting the records straight on Cam Robinson. 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Him start Tack. 0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.160 He's extremely important and we need him to perform at 0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:09.000 high level. The biggest thing for married from last year 0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:12.800 to now is he can take all the practice night 0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.240 he's out there and all the practice he's taking, all 0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:19.440 the reps. UH. There's been UH and to this point 0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:23.960 no issues with him physically. Uh so, I mean he 0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.080 can just keep going and getting better and we don't 0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.760 have to worry about managing them like we did last year. 0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:35.640 George Warhat, Jaguar's offensive line coach, earlier this weekend, yesterday, 0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:39.200 in fact, discussing Cam Robinson, and that's about as clear 0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.280 as it gets. It's gonna be the starting left tackle. 0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.680 Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home 0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.840 Loans j P Shadrick Pete Frisco is down in South Florida. 0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:53.080 Tony Basselli is I'm guessing in an undisclosed location because 0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:56.200 that's the trend lately. And I'm in the home studio today. 0:31:56.320 --> 0:32:00.000 So you know, earlier in the in the E Converse 0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:04.520 station with the media Warhop, Tony was asked about Will 0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.760 Richardson's development as a left tackle and how's how it's gone. 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.640 And you know he said earlier Cam it wasn't really 0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.440 a competent. There's no competition because Cam has been playing 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:15.680 the position. Willis just trying to get comfortable. As the 0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:19.560 days go along, the comfort starts to show. But then 0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:22.080 later in the press conference you heard the answer there, 0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.560 what does Cam Robinson mean to this offensive line was 0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:28.120 the question that was the answer with Cam is gonna 0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:30.280 be the starting left tackle. And I don't think it 0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:34.760 gets much clearer than that, Tony. Um, Yeah, no, I 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.400 mean if you watch the tape, I mean, he's playing better. 0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:39.880 He's the better left tackle right now. So I think 0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:41.400 it's clear today. I mean I thought it was a 0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.560 competition coming in, but Cam is Uh. From what I've 0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.040 seen in the tape watching one of the ones and 0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:49.200 the team work, it's but works much better. You see 0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.360 he's worked on, he's cleaned up. He looks like he's 0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.640 in shape this year. Um, he looks like a guy 0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:55.800 who get ready to play in his contract years what 0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.400 he looks like to me. And that's a good thing 0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:02.239 because Cam's talented and big, physical, athletic, I mean, all 0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:04.520 the things you want. And so I think George is right. 0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:07.040 George Warhopp, offense line coach, is dead on that he's 0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:10.000 gonna be your left tackle. Um, I thought, I think, 0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:13.080 you know, let me bring my cynical side out. I 0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.160 think it's funny that he said that. The good news 0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:17.240 is they don't have to worry about any maintenance in 0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:19.560 the managing of Cam because of his need, but then 0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:21.320 he had a maintenance to it. But he was one 0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:26.160 of the guys who had the maintenance day Today. Isn't 0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.360 it early to crown a champ though, Tony? I mean 0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:33.040 we thought he would be the starter. And I wonder 0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:37.440 if Maron was okay with Warhop letting that out. I mean, 0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:39.560 because it hadn't been it hadn't been out until he 0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:45.000 said it, and it's not usually line coach. Yeah. I 0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:47.840 think could you imagine if Mike Maser said something like 0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:50.480 that when he was your line coach, the late Mike MASERU, 0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:55.240 he would have I mean, cough would have gone nuts. Well, my, 0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:59.560 the difference is here's a big difference. None of those 0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:01.240 guys ever talk to the media, and they weren't allowed. 0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:04.800 Assistant coaches didn't talk to the media. And when Tom 0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:08.759 was then coach, so whenever happened. Uh, you know, if 0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:10.640 you want, if you watch practice, I think it's clear 0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:16.560 that Cam's better right now. Um. So, I mean your 0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:18.799 question about should Warhop has said that or not? I mean, 0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:21.920 who knows? At this point? How many more practice do 0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:25.000 you really have? Your um if your will works in 0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.240 to win the job, I mean, you have a scrimmage 0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.160 coming up this week. Um, you're gonna have some maintenance 0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:32.920 days throwing in there at some point, I'm sure, and 0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:34.799 you know, and then you start working out, you start 0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.080 getting ready for indie game, you know, game week or 0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.719 only three weeks away, pet less than three weeks away 0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:44.080 from you. Yeah. What what happens though? If if Robinson 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:46.360 goes out and is a spinning top in the in 0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.640 the scrimmage, I mean then you got to reevaluate that, 0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:52.480 don't you. Um, I would think so, But you know, 0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:56.279 I don't know what conversations are having, you know, in 0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:58.000 the building. I mean right now, if you watch them, 0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:02.200 tape cam is clearly better. It's not really close to me. Um. 0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:06.239 And so maybe Georgia just speaking that was he good 0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.200 on Was he good on Saturday? In the scrimmage or 0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:11.800 whatever they called it on Saturday? Was he good? Now? Yeah? Yeah, 0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.680 I mean I think he had one mrs sigment or 0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:16.759 that it wasn't missing. He had a bad down box 0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:20.120 against Tavid Taben made a real nice play blew it up. Um, 0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.160 But yeah, I would say overall, yeah, I thought it 0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:25.759 was solid. Techniques better because that's one of your you 0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:29.120 guys have open side about his technique, Yeah, it's been 0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:31.160 His footwork is so much better in the past game, 0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:34.040 and that's the thing I've really been focusing on. And 0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:37.760 so um, I think that's a good thing. And I mean, Pete, 0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:45.640 does it surprise you it's his contract here, you guys talented. No, 0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:47.880 it doesn't surprise me. Is but it sounds like and 0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:49.400 I haven't seen him, but it sounds like from what 0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.720 you guys say, his body's in ten times better shape 0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:55.000 than he looks great. He looks great well. And if 0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:56.719 he had, like you said, if he has a good year, 0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:59.080 he's gonna make a boatload of money. And if he 0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:00.880 has a good year, the offensive line is gonna be 0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:03.719 pretty good, right. I mean think about that if you 0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:05.200 because I think the right tackle is gonna be a 0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.600 really good player. Uh, the center and the left guard 0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:11.040 or solid players, and maybe the centers above solid and 0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.239 then whatever you get out of the right guard. He's inconsistent, 0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.040 but he has his moments. That line could be pretty 0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:19.120 good this year if he's good. Yeah, I mean that's 0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:20.839 what they're hoping for. I mean, I still worry about 0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:22.919 the run game because I'm still not convinced that they're 0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:26.000 tight end group. I like them better from a pass 0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.040 catching I mean, Iffort looks good on tape. You know, 0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.000 you can tell he's a professional tight end, Like he 0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.480 knows how to get open and find space in the secondary. 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.319 He's good. Um. I mean, I don't think he's would 0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:36.840 be the tile I for that when he came to 0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:38.759 the league, was one of the more dynamic tight ends. 0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.719 But he is a good player. I still worry about 0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:43.239 can they hold up on the edge though, in the 0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:45.799 run game, Like who's going to be that blocking tight 0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.759 end that's gonna hold up on a six technique, a 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.319 head up defensive end playing a four or three so 0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:53.239 they can run the ball, because if you can't block 0:36:53.280 --> 0:37:00.239 the edges, you can't run the ball on tight end. Here. 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.600 Let's finish up on the offensive line discussion here, and 0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.640 let's hear from Juwan Taylor, the right tackle. He spoke 0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.960 over the weekend as well about the physicality that this 0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:13.000 group can bring up from. We're definitely putting a big 0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.680 emphasis on, you know, get more push off the line, 0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:18.200 being more physical at the point of contact. So we've 0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:21.040 definitely been focusing on that every day. Uh, because Warhouthen 0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:22.680 preaching that us every single day that you know, we 0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:24.600 need to get more movement off the line and you know, 0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:26.279 create more space for our running basket. A lot of 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:27.759 we got a lot of good back, so we gotta 0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:30.760 make some space for him and create plays with him. 0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:33.319 You can, you can say it, but it's a matter 0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:35.280 of going out and do it. And as to your point, Tony, 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.759 it's it's more than just those five guys. It's the 0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.879 tight ends, it's the fullback, all those guys involved. Pete, 0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:42.680 sorry to cut you off there, but I wanted to 0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:44.919 get you on in there because he's a guy who's 0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:48.319 penalized a bunch of last year. Can he work past that? 0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:50.279 And what kind of player can he be now? In 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:55.240 year two? I think he's gonna be a dominant player. 0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:58.560 I think he has a chance to be uh their 0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:03.520 best right tackle to Leon seriously and and maybe even better. 0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.400 And Leon was the heck of a player, but this 0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:07.359 guy has a chance to be a long term guy. 0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:11.480 Leon's career in Jacksonville was very condensed. Obviously, he got hurt. 0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:13.799 He came over as a free agent. But I think 0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:15.799 this is this is a guy who can be there 0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:18.839 draft and developed right tackle goes to you know, two 0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:22.000 or three Pro Bowls down the line. That technique, stuff, 0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.160 the mistakes, that's all part of being a young player. 0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:26.200 I think he learned a ton last year. It was 0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:28.919 great to play him. You get in there and you play, 0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:31.200 and Tony you can speak that better than I can. 0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:34.719 I imagine you learn more in one game playing than 0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:40.520 you do in you know, thirty practices on the practice field. Well, yeah, 0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:41.920 I mean I think you learn a lot. I mean, 0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.400 be in the game situations of understanding you know the 0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.279 different situations and the different type of guys you're gonna play, 0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:49.799 and then you know and how to react and more 0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.719 than anything, probably being comfortable out there. I mean the 0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.040 more reps you get out there in more game situations, 0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.719 like there's a comfort level of like knowing you've done 0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.239 it um and that you can handle it. And think 0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:02.120 after his rookie year and the way he performed, I 0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.160 think he should be confident going to this year like, hey, 0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:06.040 I have the ability to be one of the better 0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:13.879 right tackles. As you talked about Pete in the NFL, Well, yeah, 0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.800 it's it's important for him to to keep developing. Obviously, 0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:19.800 and we touched on the interior of this offensive line 0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.520 to we know Lender obviously he's been around here for 0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:26.200 a while. He's on a second contract. Norwell had some 0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:30.800 criticism at times, but um, a good solid veteran left 0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:32.920 left guard in this league and then a j can 0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.640 at the right guard spot of veteran guy who has 0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:39.600 been resigned by the team. They're all back, that's you know, 0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:41.800 at the end of the year, how did they play 0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:44.880 Tony and then hey, they're all back. So apparently it 0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:48.319 was improvement as the year went along, right or is 0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:51.719 this a press start? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know about that, Jap. 0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:53.560 I mean, this is an offense. I only scored three 0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:56.239 points a game for seven straight games. It was an 0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:59.560 offense that couldn't run the ball consistently. It's an offense 0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.160 that they had to play, according to the head coach 0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:05.720 now Gardner Minshew, because they couldn't. They needed a quarterback 0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:08.440 who could make people miss in the pocket and extend plays. 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.359 And so to say that that they're brought this group 0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:13.759 back because they were happy with how they were performing, 0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:18.080 I find that tough to believe based on what the 0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:20.400 head coach told us last year and what the numbers 0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.120 told us. I think that's why I think I think 0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:26.080 there was some surprise that there wasn't you know, some 0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.920 moves made, whether earlier in the draft or whatever, to 0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:32.280 see if they can solidify their offense line a little bit. Um. 0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.839 And so I'm hoping, um that what we've seen out 0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.080 of Cam you know, you go across the board and 0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:39.680 each guy is a little bit better and improves and 0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:41.560 it becomes more consistent. Because I don't think it's a 0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:44.760 talent issue. I think it's a consistency issue. And uh. 0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:46.839 And so that I think that's what you know if 0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:49.480 you're George Warhop and I think what Joe On Taylor's 0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:52.839 told us, it's like he's continually to beat the druma like, hey, 0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:54.759 we need to be more, get more movement, we need 0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:58.080 to be consistent. It's playing and play out. So um, 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.400 that's the thing that I think will be interesting this year. Uh. 0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:04.319 But I would disagree with you if the message is, hey, 0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:06.319 we really feel good and we have a great Our 0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:09.520 offensive line was where we wanted it last year, so 0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:12.200 we just brought them all back, um, at least not 0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:14.279 based on what the stats and what the head coach 0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:17.440 told us last year. 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We promised wide 0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:01.719 receiver discussion. Well d D. Westbrook's not out there and 0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:05.200 this is the last couple of days Saturday and Sunday 0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:08.440 with a shoulder issue. He's again week the week. That's 0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:11.680 what Doug Maron said this morning. Other than that, everybody 0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:14.800 else is out there and actually playing pretty well. They've 0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:17.359 flashed in camp at least in my opinion so far. 0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:22.080 Tony guys like Chark obviously you expect um, but Conley 0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:25.359 has had his moments. Cole had a couple of really 0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:28.279 nice reps today against the C J. Henderson and the 0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:33.319 rookie corner Chinault. Just walking across the field, you can 0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:36.480 tell he's got something special. And and then Colin Johnson 0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:39.279 has that height to him. So Tony, they've they've got 0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:41.440 some pieces here, it feels like to me. Now the 0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:46.279 question is when the lights come on, can that equate? Well, 0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:48.920 it's interesting so and I haven't watched every practice on 0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:52.640 tape um, but you're right, they do flash and they're impressive. 0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:55.600 They're young, though, and so that's the question. Outside calmly, 0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:57.480 you wonder, you know, you don't have a lot of 0:46:57.520 --> 0:47:00.680 experience in that group, and so it's a little bit 0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:03.040 of still prove it to me type of situation. I mean, 0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:05.600 obviously had a great year last year, but it's one 0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:08.120 year I think he's dinna have a great year this 0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:09.560 year as well, and I think so, No, it would 0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:12.680 be a nice piece. Um. You have to contemper your 0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:15.640 expectations sometimes with those rookie wide receivers because it can 0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:17.920 take some time to get going a little bit. But 0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:20.239 he definitely has all the tools, you know. But the 0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:23.359 interesting thing about for me about the passing game JP, 0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:25.680 and you've seen all the practices, I've not seen them all. 0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:29.399 There's times where it really looks good and I'm talking 0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:32.160 about Gardner, Minshew and the receivers, and we've seen some 0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:36.399 really accurate beat balls from Gardner and the guys who 0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:38.840 can go get it. But then there's times that this 0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:41.600 it doesn't feel like the receivers and the quarterback are 0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:43.400 on the same page. I mean, I go back to Saturday, 0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:47.320 look at a round over the middle, and either Gardner 0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:49.520 was wrong where he thought Chark was gonna be or 0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:51.960 chart that you know, broke out over the middle when 0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:54.759 you're supposed to curl in. Um. And so there's been 0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:56.840 like a handful of those times that you're I'm watching, 0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:58.960 I'm like, hunt, it just seems like a little bit 0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:02.879 off throws might you would think be a little bit easier. Um. 0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:06.160 And whether it's you know, the route being wrong, ran 0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:09.880 at the wrong level, or turning out when you're supposed 0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:12.120 to turn in, or whatever it is. There's just been 0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:14.960 a couple of misques that happening camp. But because you 0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:18.239 have limited time and it is a lot of young guys, Um, 0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:22.160 you gotta clean that stuff up. Now. How many will 0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:28.080 they keep? Do you think, Tony? How many will they keep? Uh? 0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:32.280 Probably six? I think they keep six? Yeah, okay, so Chark, 0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:41.160 Westbrook Channel, who else? UM keep charm so no, I 0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:44.719 think those so not? I think uh Westbrook will be 0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:53.759 her four. Um, I think they keep John College. I 0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:56.000 think they keep in the rookie and then probably Keen. 0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:01.000 So you keep calling Keelan Cole. You know, because I've 0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:02.680 been reading some of this stuff and I have seen 0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:04.360 any practice, but it sat and talk to people, it 0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:08.160 sounds like healing Cole actually looks better. But for me today, 0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:11.200 the biggest concerned he might have looked good against c. J. Henderson. 0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:14.480 That's not a good thing for the defense. Keiling Cole 0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:17.759 beating up on c. J. Henderson your first round pick 0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:22.560 is not a good thing. And I know he was. 0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:27.239 That's if if that's a pattern. That's a bad look. 0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:32.759 I mean, yeah, it's a pattern. But let's not jump 0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:36.879 to conclusions here, Mr Priscoe, I'm not doing any day. 0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:40.360 Shouldn't happen if you're the first round pictures now a 0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:43.879 day like that. If you play enough, man, you're gonna 0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:45.239 get beat. I don't care who you are. I mean, 0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:48.480 that's not keeling Colby Jalen Ramsey At times during the 0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:53.080 tenure here, so did you JP so to other people? 0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:59.840 M Yeah, you know, I'm kind of with you here, Tony. 0:49:59.880 --> 0:50:03.160 But because Henderson the first week at camp, everybody couldn't 0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:05.960 stop talking about how good he was. Yeah, yeah, we're not. 0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:11.160 Let's not pull this out of proportion. I mean fires 0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:15.960 and like you know, starting controversy. There's no place bust already. Tony. 0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:19.600 I'm a believer. I'm a buster and the kid. I'm 0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:21.040 a believer in the kid. I think he's a good 0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:22.840 cover corner. I think he's gonna be a good player. 0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:25.640 And that's not what you just said, Pete. It's a 0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:29.919 little You need to figure out what I was reading 0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:32.000 today that he got beat a budge, that's that's a 0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:37.680 concern he did. Where'd you read it? Twitter on on 0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:41.920 the websites and Twitter. Yeah, so there's a there's a 0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:45.160 couple of videos beat all the time, though it's a 0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:48.839 little bit of exaggeration, a couple of one on one 0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:51.640 kind of red zone drills back to back in fact, 0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:55.040 where then in the second JP JP you were there. 0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:57.640 If you had the grade C. J. Henderson's day, give 0:50:57.680 --> 0:51:05.600 me a grade um C minus. That's not good, but 0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:09.120 it's one day, okay, okay, j P. If you had 0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:12.120 the great C. J. Henderson over this entire camp, which 0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:19.440 is great plus, Okay, that's good. You're there. I'm not 0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:22.600 so I'd like to hear that. Yeah. I think he's 0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:25.720 been fine so far, and he is one day an illness, 0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:31.319 so cut cut him some slack. Pete. Well, look, I said, 0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:33.920 if it's a pattern, it's a problem, it's not then good. 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:35.960 I think he's gonna be a good player. I don't 0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:38.040 think that's a position to worry about. On that side, 0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:41.560 I think Herndon's a feisty little player. I think their 0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:43.399 corners will be better than people think they are. I'll 0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:45.000 be honest with you. I don't think there's an elite 0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:46.720 guy there, but I think they'll be better than people 0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:52.480 think they are. And if you want to say, where's 0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:55.080 your concern on the defense, and it's not the secondary 0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:58.880 per se, I think because I actually think the stafeties 0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:01.640 are and I think you know, Harrison's gonna have a 0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:03.319 better year. I think he'll get better. I mean, he 0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:07.040 has talent um, and so I think the safety will 0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:09.719 be will be okay as well. I'm with Pete. I 0:52:09.760 --> 0:52:12.239 think the linebacker level, I'm hoping that Myles Jacket will 0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:15.040 be a better situation for him. I think show Bert 0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:21.560 and upgraded at Mike after Jared Allen up front. Boy, 0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:28.040 I think you got a lot of questions. I agree, yeah, um, 0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:31.400 a lot of questions that the clock's running low on 0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:34.640 time to answer those questions. Not not a lot of 0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:37.719 time left in training camp here in and who knows, 0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:41.240 there's a lot of points this year, Fellas better score 0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:44.120 a lot of points this year, Fellas. But do you 0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:46.760 think this office is set to score a lot of points. 0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:50.719 I don't know what what he's gonna plan to do 0:52:50.800 --> 0:52:54.480 with him, but you know, sometimes Tony, you have to 0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:57.319 play to your defense and to me, and I'm sure 0:52:57.360 --> 0:52:59.920 you agree with me. You look at this on the surface, 0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:02.160 it looks like it's going to be a defense that 0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:04.919 struggles a little bit or a lot. And if that's 0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:07.600 the case, go try and score a lot of points. 0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:10.839 You know, don't play trying to miss my point. You're 0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:13.480 missing my point. Do you think they tried to only 0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:18.920 score an average of three points a game? Style? They 0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:22.040 are they explosive enough to score a bunch of points? 0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:25.719 That's my question. I don't know answer that question. I 0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:31.440 can question because right so, but again, you're gonna have 0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:33.399 to score more points than you know. I mean, I'm 0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:35.320 not saying they didn't want to score points. That's a 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:38.120 stupid thing to say. But you gotta play a little looser, 0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:40.279 a little free, or let them go. If because that 0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:43.200 defense is gonna be a liability, would you not agree 0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:44.840 to be that the defense will be more of a 0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:48.799 liability than the offense. Yes, but I I hate with 0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:51.799 a passion when you start making comments they need to 0:53:51.800 --> 0:53:54.560 play a little more free and open, Like what does 0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:57.319 that mean? Because you say things that I don't think 0:53:57.360 --> 0:54:00.800 you can describe what that actually means. It made you 0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:07.480 throwing early downs more. I think they did that earl 0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:09.520 later in the year. But when mit you went back 0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:11.640 in there trying but they were also playing with a kid. 0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:15.120 They were playing with the kids starting a quarterback last year. Now, 0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:17.040 now you have a kid that's been at least been 0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:18.680 in this He's not been a system, but he's been 0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:21.560 with the team that they know what he's more familiar 0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:24.600 with his receivers, a comfortable quarterback, and he's what you 0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:27.160 think he is, then let him throw it early downs. 0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:30.880 I agree, But to say he's like, he's not an assistant, 0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:32.719 he's comfortable with It's a brand new office scoring. They 0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:35.279 have a brand new tight end, you know. I mean, 0:54:35.560 --> 0:54:40.960 there's some peace. It's just I'm hoping you're right. I'm 0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:43.400 just it's it's a wait and see for me. I 0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:45.359 don't know. I haven't seen it. Listen, I'm a big 0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:48.120 believer in some of the pieces they put together on 0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:50.759 that side of the ball, and starting with d J Chark, 0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:52.799 I love him, and I love the right tackle and 0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:56.200 I think Cam the waves looked. It's awesome, all great things. 0:54:56.800 --> 0:54:59.920 There's a lot of questions too. Well, let's put it 0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:04.840 this way. If the offense isn't prolific enough to score 0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:07.879 many more points this year than it did a year ago, 0:55:09.040 --> 0:55:12.319 they will be drafting Trevor Lawrence, how about that? Just 0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:19.200 put it out there. Have you done? Your done this 0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:23.040 record for all the team yet? No? And I by 0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:26.760 the way, we haven't cut the team yet either. Because 0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:28.759 we're not cutting the team. We haven't seen enough. I 0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:37.520 mean then the scrimmage yet. Yeah, you're three weeks. You 0:55:37.560 --> 0:55:41.399 know what? I love? Tony loves cutting the team. Hates it. 0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:44.520 He loves when we start talking mock drafts in November 0:55:44.640 --> 0:55:47.879 when they're out of how to playoff contention. I mean, 0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:49.919 all those things, they just get right under your skin. 0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:54.279 You hate that? Yeah, I don't love it, that's for sure. 0:55:55.800 --> 0:55:59.600 Number one. First of the two thousand and one NFL Draft, 0:56:00.000 --> 0:56:05.160 the Jacksonville Jaguars select quarterback clubs in Trevor Lawrence, can 0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:08.560 we play a game first? Let's come back. Second hour 0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:11.960 of Jaguars Happy Hour around the Quarner will hit the 0:56:12.000 --> 0:56:15.280 big stories of the day, a couple of social questions, 0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:18.120 my book report coming. 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That's that's what's gonna give us a chance. 1:00:41.920 --> 1:00:46.240 Head coach Doug Marone earlier today, welcome in one hour down, 1:00:46.240 --> 1:00:49.120 one hour ago on Jaguars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick, 1:00:49.160 --> 1:00:52.320 Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli. Glad you're along with us. Your 1:00:52.360 --> 1:00:56.320 social questions coming up? Um. The question of Doug there, 1:00:56.360 --> 1:01:00.920 guys was about I'm really about Macadoo, who will hear 1:01:00.920 --> 1:01:03.600 from a little bit later in the show and Jay 1:01:03.640 --> 1:01:06.760 Gruden their relationship and what do those guys bring to 1:01:06.800 --> 1:01:10.160 the staff working together, and then what can coaches learn? 1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:12.560 He has a lot of experience on the staff. I 1:01:12.560 --> 1:01:15.440 think there's a point there, and Doug Barone is open 1:01:15.480 --> 1:01:20.360 to hearing different different ideas on different topics, and and 1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:23.760 that's what that Tony, that's that's huge. Obviously you don't 1:01:23.800 --> 1:01:28.080 know everything, even if you're the head coach. No, I 1:01:28.080 --> 1:01:29.800 mean I think it's it's the smart thing to do. 1:01:29.840 --> 1:01:32.120 I mean, you have a staff for a reason. Guys 1:01:32.160 --> 1:01:34.880 have different respectives, have been at different places, They've seen 1:01:34.920 --> 1:01:38.880 it be done in different ways that have led to success. 1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:41.640 So you're always evolved, You're always trying to get better. 1:01:41.680 --> 1:01:44.200 I mean the saying that was true when I played, 1:01:44.480 --> 1:01:46.680 you're either getting better or you're getting worse. You're never 1:01:46.680 --> 1:01:50.760 saying the same applies the coaches and players of life. 1:01:51.080 --> 1:01:52.800 And so I think Doug has the right mentality and 1:01:52.800 --> 1:01:55.600 he's always trying to get better and and learn and 1:01:55.680 --> 1:01:59.440 how can you do it better? I love what a 1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:02.600 coach said as he doesn't want us, yes, man, he 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:05.760 wants to be challenged. And and you've heard stories, and Tony, 1:02:05.840 --> 1:02:08.600 you know you've known guys and coaches and personnel people 1:02:08.960 --> 1:02:12.240 who don't want to be challenged. I know a scout 1:02:12.320 --> 1:02:14.720 that got whacked if by a team because he challenged 1:02:14.760 --> 1:02:17.320 the general manager in a meeting and he didn't want 1:02:17.320 --> 1:02:19.600 to hear it. And you can't have that. I mean, 1:02:19.680 --> 1:02:22.280 you don't know everything. And as a coach, you should 1:02:22.400 --> 1:02:25.000 open your mind. And as a personnel guy, you should 1:02:25.000 --> 1:02:26.760 open your mind. I want people to challenge me if 1:02:26.800 --> 1:02:29.560 I like a player. Uh As I say, I'm a 1:02:29.600 --> 1:02:31.920 scout or a personnel director and I like a player, 1:02:31.920 --> 1:02:33.880 I want my scouts to tell me why I should 1:02:33.880 --> 1:02:36.000 go back and watch him again. It's the same thing 1:02:36.040 --> 1:02:38.360 with coaching. If I'm a coach and I have an 1:02:38.360 --> 1:02:41.840 offensive player system that I like, I might want my coordinator, 1:02:41.960 --> 1:02:43.680 my receiver, coach to come over to me and say, hey, 1:02:43.680 --> 1:02:45.720 why don't we do this and this will work? We 1:02:45.840 --> 1:02:48.680 should try this. And I think a coach with an 1:02:48.680 --> 1:02:50.480 open mind is a good thing. A coach with a 1:02:50.520 --> 1:02:55.600 closed mind is a dangerous thing. Yeah, I mean I 1:02:55.600 --> 1:02:57.760 think that could go through any anything in life. For me. 1:02:58.360 --> 1:03:00.800 If you if you have the did you know everything, 1:03:00.840 --> 1:03:02.640 You're in trouble. It's one of the reasons I worry 1:03:02.640 --> 1:03:05.479 about you be because you think you know everything, and 1:03:05.600 --> 1:03:07.920 it's a big it's a big flaw character flaw that 1:03:07.960 --> 1:03:10.200 you have that it concerns me. I mean, you should 1:03:10.200 --> 1:03:12.960 probably listen to the things you say about other people 1:03:12.960 --> 1:03:16.080 and try to limit yourself. No, Tony, what I was 1:03:16.080 --> 1:03:18.520 gonna say is, I think one thing that we've done 1:03:18.520 --> 1:03:21.120 on this show is you've evolved. When we first started, 1:03:21.160 --> 1:03:24.080 you were hardheaded, you yell at fans, you'd yell at me, 1:03:24.520 --> 1:03:26.440 And now we've toned you down a little bit, so 1:03:26.520 --> 1:03:29.120 you've opened your mind. You're not a closed minded lug 1:03:29.160 --> 1:03:31.880 like you used to be. I don't think I ever yelled. 1:03:32.080 --> 1:03:34.200 I don't think I've ever yelled at fans. I think 1:03:34.240 --> 1:03:38.120 that's a little bit. Yes you have, Yes you did, 1:03:39.240 --> 1:03:44.160 Yes you did. Revisionist history, send out, send out a 1:03:44.200 --> 1:03:48.320 Twitter polls as Tony VASSELLI yelled at fans on this show, 1:03:48.480 --> 1:03:54.160 yes or no. Never, maybe like a passionate conversation, but 1:03:54.240 --> 1:04:04.520 never yelled. Yeah, um yeah he yelled. Hey. Back to 1:04:04.280 --> 1:04:08.960 the coaching dynamic here, Pete. Obviously Jay Gruden former head 1:04:09.000 --> 1:04:13.520 coach in Washington in that division, Ben McAdoo, is that 1:04:14.640 --> 1:04:17.880 so not too for the New York Football Giants. They're 1:04:17.920 --> 1:04:23.520 both now on staff here, Um, what about that relationship? 1:04:23.640 --> 1:04:26.640 And and obviously the past is the past, and they're 1:04:26.640 --> 1:04:29.160 here to get this Jaguars team better. But it's gotta 1:04:29.160 --> 1:04:32.439 be an interesting dynamic in that room. Well, it's great 1:04:32.480 --> 1:04:35.280 to have guys who've experienced it from the top, and 1:04:35.560 --> 1:04:38.800 and granted neither one of them had great success experiencing 1:04:38.800 --> 1:04:41.840 it from the top, but maybe sometimes you're just a 1:04:41.880 --> 1:04:46.160 position coach or you're just an offensive coordinator. That's okay, 1:04:46.400 --> 1:04:49.520 that's fine. And Jake Gruden was a good offensive coordinator 1:04:49.560 --> 1:04:51.680 before he was a head coach, and I think that's 1:04:51.680 --> 1:04:53.760 a good thing for Gardner Minshew. It's a good thing 1:04:53.800 --> 1:04:56.840 for Doug Baronne. He has a guy or guys on 1:04:56.920 --> 1:04:59.440 his staff that who have been head coaches, and he 1:04:59.480 --> 1:05:01.960 can lead on them a little bit in certain situations. 1:05:01.960 --> 1:05:05.080 I like the dynamic of the staff. I'm curious to 1:05:05.120 --> 1:05:08.120 see Minshew in the offense when the thing gets cranked up. 1:05:08.240 --> 1:05:11.120 I think it fits what he does getting the ball out, 1:05:11.200 --> 1:05:14.000 but again, we don't know until you actually play real games. 1:05:14.040 --> 1:05:16.120 I think it's a good staff. I'm a big believer 1:05:16.120 --> 1:05:18.240 in Keenam Cardell. I've known him for a long time. 1:05:18.280 --> 1:05:20.840 I think he's gonna go big places in this league 1:05:20.840 --> 1:05:23.200 as a coach. I think he's gonna be a coordinator 1:05:23.240 --> 1:05:25.360 soon enough, and then and then maybe a head coach. 1:05:25.480 --> 1:05:28.080 So I like the staff, particularly on offense, and I 1:05:28.120 --> 1:05:30.640 think defensively they have some good coaches. So it's a 1:05:30.640 --> 1:05:33.400 good staff. Now the question becomes, if you don't win, 1:05:34.040 --> 1:05:36.320 what happens to that staff? They're probably all gonna be 1:05:36.320 --> 1:05:39.040 looking for jobs. That's the scary thing now though they 1:05:39.040 --> 1:05:40.840 have a chance to show that they belong and should 1:05:40.880 --> 1:05:45.480 stay longer. What do I wonder what that you bring? 1:05:46.040 --> 1:05:48.760 I mean, now I'm gonna do something that Pete does 1:05:48.880 --> 1:05:52.440 that I hate, like jump like eight steps ahead of 1:05:52.440 --> 1:05:54.920 what we should be talking about. But you brought it up. 1:05:55.280 --> 1:05:57.560 How many games do they need to win? I mean, 1:05:57.600 --> 1:06:01.480 because that's a I mean there's so many like variables 1:06:01.520 --> 1:06:05.320 out there and so many you know, influences that this 1:06:05.800 --> 1:06:08.200 staff had nothing to do with them. You know, COVID 1:06:08.320 --> 1:06:12.800 and no off season and everything by you know video, 1:06:13.160 --> 1:06:15.760 and it makes it really hard in a young team. 1:06:15.800 --> 1:06:18.920 On top of it, what do they have to do? 1:06:19.000 --> 1:06:21.520 What success? What do you think success? You know, forget 1:06:21.520 --> 1:06:23.600 about whether they get fired or not. I don't want 1:06:23.600 --> 1:06:26.200 to talk about that. What is what would be successful 1:06:26.200 --> 1:06:29.640 in your mind for this team this year? I'm not 1:06:29.720 --> 1:06:31.880 jumping ahead. I want to stay right here and focus 1:06:31.920 --> 1:06:34.880 on the now. I never jump ahead, I never pushed forward. 1:06:35.200 --> 1:06:37.320 Stay right here, but elly, I'm not gonna do it. 1:06:37.400 --> 1:06:39.520 I just want to stay right here and talk about 1:06:39.520 --> 1:06:44.240 the now, not looking to the future. Okay, that's you, 1:06:44.760 --> 1:06:51.320 that's your that's you. By the way, No, what success? Five? Five, 1:06:51.600 --> 1:06:55.080 five would be success? In my mind? Six five would 1:06:55.120 --> 1:07:00.240 be outstanding. Six six will be six wins. So you're 1:07:00.320 --> 1:07:03.520 saying five would be success. That's one lesson. They won 1:07:03.640 --> 1:07:11.280 last year, pete six. You're telling me that it's six. Well, 1:07:11.360 --> 1:07:14.000 a six with this team at six, I said it 1:07:14.120 --> 1:07:19.320 last year, the rebuilding, reloading. So SI, what do you 1:07:19.360 --> 1:07:22.360 think successful? Hold on, I'm not I'll tell you in 1:07:22.360 --> 1:07:25.360 the second I'm asking you. You're telling the fans of 1:07:25.440 --> 1:07:29.400 the Jacksonville Jaguars were listening to our our show and 1:07:29.520 --> 1:07:35.080 expect expertise analysis from you that if they win six games, 1:07:35.400 --> 1:07:37.720 the fan base should be happy and said we're on 1:07:37.800 --> 1:07:41.960 the right track as a football organization. That's not what 1:07:42.000 --> 1:07:44.520 I'm saying. I'm saying that if they win six games, 1:07:45.480 --> 1:07:49.760 if they win, you, I think they're gonna push. They're 1:07:49.760 --> 1:07:52.440 gonna push to win six games. That's what I'm saying. 1:07:52.680 --> 1:07:55.440 That's if the fans out there are listening my expertise, 1:07:56.040 --> 1:07:59.800 this team is well, that's what I'm telling you. I'm 1:07:59.840 --> 1:08:02.000 not ask you that. I'm saying, what would it be 1:08:02.120 --> 1:08:04.840 deemed as successful for this coaching staff at the end 1:08:04.880 --> 1:08:08.000 of the year. If they did this, this, and this, 1:08:08.240 --> 1:08:12.040 that's successful, Like they did a good job and they 1:08:12.040 --> 1:08:14.440 should have their jobs back in the following year. Like 1:08:14.480 --> 1:08:17.120 what success they have to if they keep their jobs, 1:08:17.120 --> 1:08:21.840 they're gonna have to win eight or nine games. So 1:08:21.880 --> 1:08:26.439 you're saying success is eight or nine games in because 1:08:26.439 --> 1:08:28.800 a second ago, that's keeping your job success. I'm trying 1:08:28.800 --> 1:08:32.040 to figure out what it is. No, eight or nine 1:08:32.720 --> 1:08:36.559 is unlike success to me. Pete, Well, it sounds like 1:08:36.600 --> 1:08:39.560 success with what they have there. That's that would be 1:08:39.600 --> 1:08:42.040 a successful season. You know what real success would be 1:08:42.320 --> 1:08:45.760 going over in sixteen and getting Trevor Lawrence. That's real success. 1:08:47.880 --> 1:08:49.840 I mean, JP, I don't even know where to go 1:08:49.840 --> 1:08:52.280 with this because I've heard like fifteen different numbers thrown 1:08:52.320 --> 1:08:55.200 out there, um, and so I'm a little bit confused 1:08:55.280 --> 1:08:59.600 right now. I think six, he's an eight, he's a 1:08:59.760 --> 1:09:05.439 zero zero with the roster that they have success is 1:09:05.760 --> 1:09:09.559 five or six wins for the coaching staff to stay 1:09:10.200 --> 1:09:14.240 successes eight or nine wins, Like you're you're moving the 1:09:14.240 --> 1:09:18.120 ball over not over the chess board right now. So 1:09:18.200 --> 1:09:20.200 let me let me be very clear to our fans 1:09:20.320 --> 1:09:24.519 and the people listening to JP. UM. I think to deem, 1:09:24.600 --> 1:09:26.760 this is a successful year for Don Morone and his 1:09:26.840 --> 1:09:29.920 coaching staff. They need to improve by at least two games, 1:09:30.360 --> 1:09:32.080 and they won six last year. They need to win 1:09:32.120 --> 1:09:33.720 eight games this year to say, you know what, we're 1:09:33.720 --> 1:09:36.280 going in the right direction. Um, we've built this, we're 1:09:36.280 --> 1:09:38.080 starting to build that. We have a foundation there for 1:09:38.120 --> 1:09:40.200 the future, and so let's get We need to get 1:09:40.360 --> 1:09:42.680 to at least eight games. I think that would be success. 1:09:43.439 --> 1:09:46.320 We agree, we agree. What do you think would be 1:09:46.360 --> 1:09:50.760 a successful season? That's what I just said. So you 1:09:50.840 --> 1:09:53.599 think they don't get eight wins, that's not a successful season. 1:09:54.920 --> 1:09:58.360 That that again, if they don't get eight wins, it's 1:09:58.400 --> 1:10:01.400 not a successful seasons. What's your saying to forget Doug 1:10:01.439 --> 1:10:03.759 Barrowne and his coaches to I'm talking about Tony Vaselli. 1:10:04.200 --> 1:10:08.120 What is a successful season for the Jacksonville Jaguars as 1:10:08.160 --> 1:10:10.760 as an organization. Yes, you have to. You have to 1:10:10.760 --> 1:10:13.040 show progress. And I think if you win six games 1:10:13.120 --> 1:10:17.080 or less, you're not showing progress. Now. The only caveat 1:10:17.160 --> 1:10:18.720 to that that I'll put out there is if you 1:10:18.920 --> 1:10:22.479 if you win five games, but Gardner Minshew and you 1:10:22.520 --> 1:10:25.720 just have your defense because it's decimated by injuries and 1:10:25.800 --> 1:10:28.479 everything else and opting out and you can't stop anyone 1:10:28.560 --> 1:10:30.880 to save your life. But you start to see an 1:10:30.920 --> 1:10:33.920 offense that is productive and Gardner Minshew's, you know, four 1:10:33.960 --> 1:10:38.040 thousand yards and thirty touchdowns and twelve picks. That success 1:10:38.400 --> 1:10:40.000 even if you win five or six games. So you 1:10:40.040 --> 1:10:42.800 have to see progress. All I was saying. That's why 1:10:42.840 --> 1:10:45.080 I think it's it's not just wins and losses. So 1:10:45.120 --> 1:10:49.679 if you're asking me wins and losses, it is eight wins, 1:10:50.160 --> 1:10:53.680 So you're showing improvement there. Then I would say improvement 1:10:53.720 --> 1:10:57.040 from the young quarterback and offensively that you were showing 1:10:57.040 --> 1:10:59.360 that you can score points in your productive unit, which 1:10:59.360 --> 1:11:02.040 they were not last year. That would also be a 1:11:02.560 --> 1:11:05.439 metric of success for me looking at it. And so 1:11:05.520 --> 1:11:07.360 that you know, wins obviously, this is what you're all 1:11:07.479 --> 1:11:11.240 we're all graded on. As in the NFL's wins and losses. 1:11:11.479 --> 1:11:14.200 And then secondly, it's the production and improvement of your 1:11:14.240 --> 1:11:18.400 quarterback in your offense um from a from what you 1:11:18.439 --> 1:11:20.000 do on the field. Those are the two things I 1:11:20.000 --> 1:11:22.880 think I would be looking at. Let's let's just say this. 1:11:22.920 --> 1:11:27.559 I'll throw this out there, Gardner Minshew throws forred yards, 1:11:28.040 --> 1:11:33.160 thirty four touchdown passes, thirteen interceptions. The offense is explosive 1:11:33.479 --> 1:11:38.639 and they still go for a twelve successful season or not. Yeah, 1:11:38.760 --> 1:11:40.800 I would say yes, because that means you just had 1:11:40.840 --> 1:11:42.839 the worst defense. Now, I think it would be changes. 1:11:44.240 --> 1:11:46.360 There could be changes with the coaches staff, but with 1:11:46.479 --> 1:11:51.080 the head coach. And when you say, I mean, are 1:11:51.120 --> 1:11:53.280 you gonna get rid of your offensive coordinator that just 1:11:53.479 --> 1:11:56.840 came in and did that? Got rid of the head coach? 1:11:56.960 --> 1:12:02.040 Would so I mean yeah, I mean that we're going 1:12:02.080 --> 1:12:04.280 down the path that people losing jobs and not losing that. 1:12:04.360 --> 1:12:06.240 That was my point of this conversation. At the point 1:12:06.320 --> 1:12:09.080 was what would be successful this year? And I think 1:12:09.280 --> 1:12:11.479 the metric that everyone's measured by in the NFL wins 1:12:11.479 --> 1:12:14.040 and losses, and so you have to start there. And 1:12:14.080 --> 1:12:15.960 so if it's not better than last year, and then 1:12:15.960 --> 1:12:22.760 it's not successful we agree, Tony, we agree for those guys, Yes, 1:12:22.800 --> 1:12:26.439 we do. Success for the coach you you don't understand me. 1:12:26.479 --> 1:12:29.280 For success for the coaching staff, it's eight or nine. 1:12:29.960 --> 1:12:33.960 My uh, the definition of success is five or six 1:12:34.000 --> 1:12:36.519 because I don't think they're very good. I think they're 1:12:36.520 --> 1:12:39.759 gonna be feisting, staying games and maybe score some points. 1:12:39.880 --> 1:12:41.519 But I don't think they're gonna win a lot of games. 1:12:41.560 --> 1:12:44.400 So if I think they're gonna win three or four games, 1:12:44.600 --> 1:12:47.640 if they get the six, in my mind, that success. 1:12:49.280 --> 1:12:52.800 But not as an organization. That's not like your best argument. No, 1:12:52.920 --> 1:12:55.640 as an organization they got I'm with you, they have 1:12:55.680 --> 1:12:58.960 to show progress, like I like, you actually would have 1:12:59.040 --> 1:13:00.960 a decent argument if you to start and saying, you 1:13:00.960 --> 1:13:03.439 know what successful this organization is is going on sixteen 1:13:03.439 --> 1:13:05.360 and getting Trevor Lawrences your quarterback, because now you have 1:13:05.360 --> 1:13:07.760 a quarterback for the next ten years. Like if you 1:13:07.800 --> 1:13:10.600 have said that, now I would argue with you, and 1:13:10.640 --> 1:13:12.720 I'd be like, I don't consider that success. I don't 1:13:12.720 --> 1:13:14.680 think you go to a season like that, but at 1:13:14.720 --> 1:13:17.080 least out of made sense you're like going from you 1:13:17.080 --> 1:13:19.479 would argue with me no matter what. Nine to zero, 1:13:19.840 --> 1:13:23.400 no matter what you can't know you are not. There's 1:13:23.479 --> 1:13:28.880 different there's different definitions of success. No, the coaching staff 1:13:28.960 --> 1:13:32.439 success is different than my determination and what's successful, and 1:13:32.479 --> 1:13:35.080 it should be different than what your determination is to 1:13:35.120 --> 1:13:38.880 be successful. You different, like you just said if you're 1:13:38.880 --> 1:13:42.439 talking about yes, you do. You just said it. If 1:13:42.479 --> 1:13:44.760 they if they had an explosive offense and Minshooth just 1:13:44.840 --> 1:13:48.160 showed a bunch of progress and they would five and 1:13:48.600 --> 1:13:50.760 and eleven or six and ten, you would say that 1:13:50.840 --> 1:13:56.040 was a success correct over offensively, Yeah, because you have 1:13:56.720 --> 1:14:00.559 a quarterback now, like you check the box, you have quarterback. 1:14:00.880 --> 1:14:04.560 But is that a success? Yes or no? Success? Definition 1:14:04.600 --> 1:14:08.559 of success yes or no? For the organization? Yes, having 1:14:08.640 --> 1:14:13.720 quarterbacks at that position. Yes, I rest my case. I 1:14:13.920 --> 1:14:18.040 rest my defense. I rest my case. That wasn't the question. 1:14:18.160 --> 1:14:23.200 A few notes of the day today and maintenance day 1:14:23.240 --> 1:14:27.679 again today. Twenty four players were held inside today getting 1:14:27.800 --> 1:14:30.479 full work according to Doug Marron, just not on the 1:14:30.520 --> 1:14:35.000 practice field and pads. Guys on the field today were 1:14:35.200 --> 1:14:37.040 some of those that Maron wants a little more of 1:14:37.080 --> 1:14:40.880 a look at, or certain matchups in teamwork or one 1:14:40.920 --> 1:14:43.519 on one work. Today. Tavin Bryan has a bone bruise 1:14:43.560 --> 1:14:46.760 in his knee. Dd Westbrook has a shoulder issue. Both 1:14:46.840 --> 1:14:48.639 or a week to week according to the head coach, 1:14:49.280 --> 1:14:53.360 Jack's practice again tomorrow. Players are off on Wednesday, Thursday 1:14:53.360 --> 1:14:56.720 and Friday practices and then a Saturday scrimmage coming up 1:14:56.800 --> 1:15:00.200 in the stadium. Let's come back, gentlemen. We'll get into 1:15:00.439 --> 1:15:03.479 the quarterback room a little bit. 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Shadrick, Pete, Priscoe, 1:19:34.560 --> 1:19:38.800 Tony Vasselli Each Monday on t t x L a 1:19:38.960 --> 1:19:43.360 M Radio, at Jaguars on social media and Jaguars dot Com. 1:19:44.000 --> 1:19:48.400 It's our first conversation with Macado and Peter. I found 1:19:48.400 --> 1:19:51.160 it interesting. I guess I hadn't really realized he's been 1:19:51.200 --> 1:19:53.400 out of football the last couple of years since he 1:19:53.479 --> 1:19:56.559 got fired by the Giants. He does, he's been living 1:19:56.640 --> 1:19:58.840 down south of here in Florida, and he's moved up 1:19:58.840 --> 1:20:01.160 a little bit closer, he said, but gave him time 1:20:01.200 --> 1:20:03.519 to be around the family. But you know, he's a 1:20:03.560 --> 1:20:05.320 football coach. He said at the end of his press 1:20:05.439 --> 1:20:08.360 conference that he'd he would coach pretty much anything, and 1:20:08.880 --> 1:20:12.000 here he is back with a quarterback that they're trying 1:20:12.080 --> 1:20:15.640 to develop and get better for this organization. You know, 1:20:15.920 --> 1:20:18.600 what did you make of McAdoo when he was the 1:20:18.680 --> 1:20:20.920 head coach of the Giants And how does something like 1:20:21.040 --> 1:20:24.200 that change a guy like Ben Well, It wasn't a 1:20:24.240 --> 1:20:26.120 great head coach, Let's be honest about it. And the 1:20:26.320 --> 1:20:29.320 proof is in the pudding. But he's had success at 1:20:29.400 --> 1:20:32.280 times in his career running offenses and being part of 1:20:32.320 --> 1:20:34.920 good offenses. So I think it's a good hire for 1:20:34.960 --> 1:20:38.040 the Jaguars. It's you know, a former head coach, been 1:20:38.080 --> 1:20:42.040 around good offenses in his career, understands the passing game, 1:20:42.439 --> 1:20:45.240 understands the offense. Uh And I think it's good for 1:20:45.320 --> 1:20:49.080 Gardner Minshew. Again, when you have two former head coaches, 1:20:49.320 --> 1:20:51.719 one of the offensive coordinator, one is the quarterbacks coach, 1:20:52.120 --> 1:20:54.439 that's a good thing. And so it'll be interesting to 1:20:54.439 --> 1:20:56.360 see what happens this This could be the type of 1:20:56.439 --> 1:20:59.360 year if Minshew has a year like Tony's talking about, 1:20:59.479 --> 1:21:03.080 possibly haven't. If he has that kind of year, that 1:21:03.200 --> 1:21:06.800 can only enhance mcadoo's credibility around the league. Maybe he 1:21:06.840 --> 1:21:09.920 gets an offensive coordinator job, and then who knows. Uh So. 1:21:10.120 --> 1:21:12.519 But again I said something earlier that I still believe 1:21:12.800 --> 1:21:16.599 sometimes guys are just position coaches or coordinators. Maybe Ben 1:21:16.720 --> 1:21:19.839 mcadoo's just a good position coach or just an offensive coordinator. 1:21:20.080 --> 1:21:22.519 Not everybody's a head coach, Not everybody's cut out to 1:21:22.520 --> 1:21:30.040 be a head coach. Well, I mean, I agree with you, 1:21:31.920 --> 1:21:35.360 But you know the interesting thing about Ben McAdoo. If 1:21:35.400 --> 1:21:38.960 I'm not mistaken, his first year the Giants, he won 1:21:39.040 --> 1:21:43.719 eleven games. Did you take the team to the playoffs 1:21:44.120 --> 1:21:47.120 in sixteen when he was that coach? Beat Yeah? But 1:21:47.160 --> 1:21:51.920 then you go off a cliff Tony. Listen all I'm saying, 1:21:51.960 --> 1:21:53.880 it's interesting. He was there for two years, if I'm 1:21:53.880 --> 1:22:00.240 not mistaken, won eleven games year one, and he had 1:22:00.560 --> 1:22:03.439 off a cliff, Yes, and they had the second worst 1:22:03.479 --> 1:22:08.719 record in the NFL. Um it was. It's just interesting 1:22:08.800 --> 1:22:13.559 how quickly that disintegrated underneath him in New York after 1:22:13.640 --> 1:22:16.000 having a good year. Unless I'm getting my years wrong, 1:22:16.120 --> 1:22:24.800 but I'm pretty sure. Yeah. And he was also the 1:22:25.200 --> 1:22:27.519 offensive coordinator for kauf On that you know, for two 1:22:27.600 --> 1:22:31.080 years too. I mean, look, the guy's the guy Green Bay. 1:22:31.200 --> 1:22:33.479 He's good. You know, he was involved with the quarterback 1:22:33.560 --> 1:22:36.560 he was the quarterbacks coach there. He's been around good offenses. 1:22:36.680 --> 1:22:38.439 And he's not an old guy. And this is a 1:22:38.560 --> 1:22:42.360 young guy relatively speaking. He's forty three years old. I mean, 1:22:42.479 --> 1:22:44.320 why would he be out of coaching for two years? 1:22:44.560 --> 1:22:48.400 Who knows? Um? But again maybe he just you know, 1:22:48.479 --> 1:22:50.559 one of the regroup and spend time with the family 1:22:50.680 --> 1:22:53.800 like you said, this is a chance for him to 1:22:54.000 --> 1:22:56.200 show people that he can still do it and get 1:22:56.240 --> 1:23:00.840 another opportunity, maybe to be an offensive coordinator. Yeah, it's 1:23:00.880 --> 1:23:02.760 just interesting. You don't see a guy who wins the 1:23:02.840 --> 1:23:05.559 leven games and now he won three the next year, 1:23:05.760 --> 1:23:07.840 and so you wonder if there's more issues in the 1:23:07.920 --> 1:23:11.120 building as far as his leadership styles the head coach um, 1:23:11.200 --> 1:23:13.040 But he obviously knows how to coach from Paul. He's 1:23:13.040 --> 1:23:15.200 had success and I think you know he's a good 1:23:15.240 --> 1:23:17.479 asset and a good good guy to having the building 1:23:17.520 --> 1:23:24.720 conduct borrow, wasn't it too? Was No? Three? Now I'm 1:23:24.760 --> 1:23:31.000 looking at it beat right. Well, then they used to 1:23:31.040 --> 1:23:37.639 call him macadone, didn't they. Yeah, that's you're you're you're 1:23:37.720 --> 1:23:39.599 the national guy. You could tell us what they set 1:23:39.680 --> 1:23:44.000 up in New York. We're not sure. Let's just stay 1:23:44.040 --> 1:23:46.240 on the quarterback. You know, we've we've talked to Ben Show. 1:23:46.439 --> 1:23:50.440 We know he's the starting quarterback here. But today especially 1:23:51.360 --> 1:23:54.000 we got to see the rest of them, Glenn and 1:23:54.080 --> 1:23:58.799 Dobbs luting with only ones on the field taking reps today, Tony, 1:23:59.439 --> 1:24:03.519 from the tape that you've seen, what is the quarterback room? 1:24:03.600 --> 1:24:08.519 Opening day? I would only keep I mean I would 1:24:08.600 --> 1:24:11.760 keep too, I would keep Glennon and Minshew, and I 1:24:11.920 --> 1:24:14.880 put Luten on the practice squad because I think you 1:24:15.000 --> 1:24:17.240 have sixteen guys in the practice squad and they're gonna 1:24:17.240 --> 1:24:20.120 have some freedom, I think based on you know, this 1:24:20.280 --> 1:24:22.880 COVID environment of how they manage that up and down. 1:24:22.960 --> 1:24:25.280 So I put Luton as the third UM. I wouldn't 1:24:25.320 --> 1:24:27.439 keep him active. I put him, again, like I said, 1:24:27.439 --> 1:24:28.760 in the practic squad. And I don't think that I 1:24:28.760 --> 1:24:30.800 don't think there's a place for probably on this roster 1:24:30.880 --> 1:24:35.960 for Josh Dobbs. I've heard Luton's look pretty good and 1:24:36.400 --> 1:24:39.920 throws the ball very well. Is that true? Yeah, you 1:24:39.960 --> 1:24:42.920 can spin it, um, but I think he was thinking 1:24:42.960 --> 1:24:44.920 you want you saw that at Oregon State he could 1:24:44.960 --> 1:24:47.000 spin it. But I've heard he's looked pretty good at 1:24:47.040 --> 1:24:50.719 times in this camp throwing the football. And that's so again, 1:24:52.080 --> 1:24:54.000 it's not like he's gonna be exposed playing in a 1:24:54.080 --> 1:24:56.400 preseason game. So if he didn't get drafted until he 1:24:56.439 --> 1:24:58.600 got drafted, nobody, nobody's gonna know what he's doing on 1:24:58.680 --> 1:25:01.280 the practice field. So Tony is correct, you probably put 1:25:01.320 --> 1:25:03.960 him on the practice squad and then if something happens, 1:25:04.479 --> 1:25:10.680 you activate him easier to do. Yeah, so I think 1:25:10.720 --> 1:25:14.880 that's what it looks like. Alright, guys, let's get a 1:25:14.920 --> 1:25:17.880 couple of social questions in Tony your face. Here we 1:25:17.960 --> 1:25:21.599 go week, got a couple, got a couple this week? Um, 1:25:21.960 --> 1:25:23.879 you know we need we need more of a response 1:25:24.040 --> 1:25:25.640 is what we need to be quite honest with you. 1:25:29.439 --> 1:25:31.679 You know what we need. We need the yelling bassellly. 1:25:31.920 --> 1:25:34.160 We need yelling BASSELLI back because he used to get 1:25:34.240 --> 1:25:36.920 more questions when he was a yeller and they'd irritate him. 1:25:37.160 --> 1:25:40.639 So let next week, let's say, if you can send 1:25:40.720 --> 1:25:43.200 in a question that irritates Tony, he's gonna yell like 1:25:43.320 --> 1:25:45.799 old times and get get us back into the spirit 1:25:45.840 --> 1:25:48.720 of things. Well, now what but I will make sure 1:25:48.760 --> 1:25:52.000 I tweeted out the question next week on Monday morning 1:25:52.080 --> 1:25:54.000 like I did last year. And that's you know, obviously 1:25:54.439 --> 1:25:58.280 your followers are to usday Army, and I'll make sure 1:25:58.280 --> 1:26:00.000 I send out the question. Think it's a good question 1:26:00.520 --> 1:26:03.680 because Pete don't work so well last week. Let me 1:26:03.760 --> 1:26:06.120 tell you I didn't say I didn't send anything last 1:26:06.160 --> 1:26:12.080 week last number one. I did, and I mean JP did, 1:26:12.120 --> 1:26:14.200 and you retweeted it. So what's the difference of you 1:26:14.400 --> 1:26:17.480 sending it out? Because when I said, I think your followers, 1:26:17.600 --> 1:26:22.000 Pete are more interactive than Tony's followers, So that makes sense, 1:26:22.560 --> 1:26:24.840 you know, and it worked out on That's why. That's 1:26:24.840 --> 1:26:26.800 why he's got to start yelling again, because then he'll 1:26:26.800 --> 1:26:30.000 get more interactive with the followers. You get more interaction, 1:26:30.080 --> 1:26:32.599 he'll be much better. So start yelling next week or tonight. 1:26:32.680 --> 1:26:34.760 If somebody irritates it, It's like, let's go back to 1:26:34.840 --> 1:26:37.120 where we used to be used to screaming. Yell at 1:26:37.160 --> 1:26:40.679 the fans. You hear it. Take me, Pete, I start 1:26:40.760 --> 1:26:44.639 screaming at you. That makes you feel better? Okay, we'll 1:26:44.680 --> 1:26:48.120 take it. We gotta get something, MATI you what do 1:26:48.200 --> 1:26:51.479 you mean? Out? And I'm carrying the show you with 1:26:51.600 --> 1:26:54.720 your stupid takes. It don't even make sense. Bounce it 1:26:54.800 --> 1:26:57.200 all over the place like you. You know, who knows 1:26:57.240 --> 1:27:01.160 what you've been doing. I want argument as usual, but 1:27:01.280 --> 1:27:06.920 that's a whole another story. Social question number one gentleman 1:27:07.200 --> 1:27:10.720 at stew underscool winners as what side of the ball 1:27:10.760 --> 1:27:14.160 do you think is strongest for THISAGS team as of today? 1:27:14.880 --> 1:27:20.040 And will that be true by the end of the season. No, 1:27:20.200 --> 1:27:23.360 I think defense starts. It looks better early in camp, 1:27:23.439 --> 1:27:25.200 and I think you know, probably for the most part, 1:27:25.280 --> 1:27:28.439 you watch the eleven on eleven UH drills, you know 1:27:28.600 --> 1:27:30.640 probably lean slightly to the defense. But I think the 1:27:30.640 --> 1:27:33.080 offense will be the better unit throughout the year. I mean, 1:27:33.120 --> 1:27:36.040 I think you know they're gonna have to carry. I 1:27:36.960 --> 1:27:39.040 don't think this is a team that can win with defense. 1:27:39.640 --> 1:27:41.640 I'm not saying they're gonna be terrible. I think they 1:27:41.680 --> 1:27:43.640 probably end u the middle of the road somewhere. I 1:27:43.680 --> 1:27:45.680 don't think it will be the side of the ball, 1:27:45.720 --> 1:27:47.960 which we've been counting on for years based on the 1:27:48.040 --> 1:27:52.280 seventeen season, that really has to step up. I think offensively, um, 1:27:52.479 --> 1:27:54.519 there'll be a better unit, and I think they're gonna 1:27:54.520 --> 1:27:55.920 have to be if they want to win football games. 1:27:57.080 --> 1:27:58.800 I'm with you. I think it's all offense. I think 1:27:58.840 --> 1:28:01.639 the offense will be better. Here's a question, though, Let's 1:28:01.680 --> 1:28:05.200 just say the guys didn't opt out and the guys 1:28:05.240 --> 1:28:07.720 didn't get hurt. How much better would they have been? 1:28:08.920 --> 1:28:11.559 Isn't that a legitimate question. I mean, alt, I think 1:28:12.040 --> 1:28:15.479 and Gunter are there. Yeah, I think they helped. They're 1:28:15.520 --> 1:28:18.920 better against the run, right, you would think that, But 1:28:19.040 --> 1:28:21.559 how much better are they? They're still there's still gonna 1:28:21.560 --> 1:28:24.960 be a struggling defense, at least I think so. Well, 1:28:25.000 --> 1:28:27.320 I think, I mean, those big bodies make a difference. 1:28:27.360 --> 1:28:28.840 Pet in the run game. I think that. I mean, 1:28:29.160 --> 1:28:31.240 what is a guy who's proving he can play the run. 1:28:31.320 --> 1:28:33.559 He's a big body gunter. I think had a chance 1:28:33.640 --> 1:28:35.720 to really Uh, if you look at what he did 1:28:35.760 --> 1:28:38.920 in Arizona as a young player, Um, he was not 1:28:39.120 --> 1:28:41.560 a name a bunch of people knew, or it's not 1:28:41.720 --> 1:28:43.120 highly up. But I think he was an up and 1:28:43.200 --> 1:28:45.800 coming guy that was going in the right direction. So 1:28:45.920 --> 1:28:47.960 I do think the depth would have help at the 1:28:48.040 --> 1:28:49.599 very least. I'm not saying it would have made him, 1:28:49.960 --> 1:28:52.880 you know, a top five defense. But I worry about 1:28:52.920 --> 1:28:55.200 them stopping the run this year. I mean they couldn't 1:28:55.280 --> 1:28:59.920 last year. Um, and I worry about it this year. Well, 1:29:00.240 --> 1:29:02.160 you know, it makes sense to worry about it because 1:29:02.800 --> 1:29:05.760 it's gonna be a problem. But again, how much better 1:29:05.800 --> 1:29:07.560 would it have been without Woods and got there? That 1:29:07.680 --> 1:29:11.599 you'd say it would have been better, but how much better? Okay, 1:29:11.720 --> 1:29:14.120 you want me to give the yard per carry Okay, 1:29:14.120 --> 1:29:16.200 I think they're gonna give up four point three yards 1:29:16.240 --> 1:29:18.519 per carrying. I think they'd give him three nine those 1:29:18.560 --> 1:29:20.240 two were there? How about that? Does that help you? 1:29:21.880 --> 1:29:28.160 What about Snacks Harrison? What about him? I mean, he's 1:29:28.240 --> 1:29:31.720 out there, But what about he didn't want to play 1:29:31.720 --> 1:29:35.240 in Detroit? He didn't retire basically or get cut. No, 1:29:35.400 --> 1:29:37.599 he's out there. They let him go. He wants to play. 1:29:37.800 --> 1:29:40.000 I mean, would he be somebody could bring in and 1:29:40.080 --> 1:29:44.240 help the run game? I think he could. I mean, 1:29:46.360 --> 1:29:48.280 once upon a time you can argue that he was 1:29:48.320 --> 1:29:50.479 one of the best interior defensive linem to stop in 1:29:50.520 --> 1:29:53.160 the run. And he's not. I mean, he's not an 1:29:53.200 --> 1:29:55.160 old I don't think he's an old He's not an 1:29:55.200 --> 1:29:58.479 old guy anymore or anything either. What is he thirty one? 1:29:58.600 --> 1:30:01.479 He could still be going there and help. But I 1:30:01.520 --> 1:30:02.920 don't know what kind of shape he's in. I don't 1:30:02.960 --> 1:30:05.320 know what the issue was in Detroit where they never 1:30:05.400 --> 1:30:09.000 been in great shape. No, I mean, is he a 1:30:09.040 --> 1:30:11.360 bad locker room guy? Was he cause him trouble? I mean, 1:30:11.560 --> 1:30:14.000 I mean I have no idea. I mean, why it's 1:30:14.000 --> 1:30:16.640 not only Detroit with his great team, why they let 1:30:16.760 --> 1:30:18.599 him go? I mean, there's always a reason, guys get 1:30:18.720 --> 1:30:20.360 let go to Pete. You know this, I mean, and 1:30:21.320 --> 1:30:23.960 I'm sure. I'm sure Dave calledwell and Doug and that 1:30:24.040 --> 1:30:26.519 group have done their homework and know what's out there, 1:30:26.520 --> 1:30:28.320 and they investigate it. We haven't, so I'm not going 1:30:28.360 --> 1:30:31.400 to speculate what the reason was, but there's um based 1:30:31.439 --> 1:30:35.760 on the defensive line depth right now. My guess is 1:30:35.800 --> 1:30:38.280 they've looked at it and made the determination at this 1:30:38.479 --> 1:30:43.840 time he doesn't help him as a player. As a 1:30:43.920 --> 1:30:46.479 player thirty one years old, he would help him. Now, 1:30:47.040 --> 1:30:48.600 you're right, we don't know if he's a problem in 1:30:48.640 --> 1:30:51.559 the locker room. I hadn't heard that though, but again 1:30:51.680 --> 1:30:54.559 I'm not and he and he's in shape, he could 1:30:54.640 --> 1:31:01.360 help them. Let's get one more social question, and this 1:31:01.600 --> 1:31:05.040 is from Jay McMahon. Underscore, what is this team ceiling 1:31:05.080 --> 1:31:07.040 in terms of wins? Well, let me I'll start with us. 1:31:07.160 --> 1:31:11.320 Every team's ceiling is sixteen wins. In the right games, 1:31:11.560 --> 1:31:15.120 they could win sixteen, right, thank you? We just I 1:31:15.160 --> 1:31:17.519 guess we touched on this earlier. But what do you 1:31:17.600 --> 1:31:22.920 think Pete five or six? That's that's what I think. 1:31:23.320 --> 1:31:26.080 If if they get more than that, kudos to the 1:31:26.120 --> 1:31:28.880 coach and staff and Gardner Minshire will be their long 1:31:29.000 --> 1:31:32.640 term quarterback. That that's exactly what I think because I 1:31:32.720 --> 1:31:35.720 don't see it again. I think they're gonna be tough 1:31:35.840 --> 1:31:37.439 in some games. I just don't think they're gonna win 1:31:37.439 --> 1:31:40.040 a lot of games. But if they get to eight wins, 1:31:40.800 --> 1:31:44.120 Gardner Minshew will have established himself as the guy for 1:31:44.240 --> 1:31:46.439 the long term. That's how well Hill have to play 1:31:46.560 --> 1:31:51.320 to get the eight names. So is it eight or six? 1:31:53.560 --> 1:31:55.519 Just give me one number. I just want one, like 1:31:55.640 --> 1:31:59.000 five numbers. I think they're winning six, five or six 1:31:59.240 --> 1:32:07.640 that's okay, that's two or six from one number? What number? Five? Okay? Five? Okay? Um? 1:32:07.760 --> 1:32:14.679 I think their ceiling is ten games? Is their ceiling? Wow? 1:32:16.240 --> 1:32:17.640 I mean the ceiling. I mean that's I mean he 1:32:17.680 --> 1:32:20.720 goes away. Gardner plays great, you know, Josh Allen is 1:32:20.880 --> 1:32:23.320 you know defensive m v P C. J Henderson is 1:32:23.360 --> 1:32:26.120 a lockdown corner that you drafted him to be. Miles 1:32:26.200 --> 1:32:29.479 Jack makes the transition to will Leonard Fordet is running 1:32:29.600 --> 1:32:32.280 like in you know, playing like it's his last uh 1:32:32.479 --> 1:32:34.760 in the last year of his contract. Camerabms doing the 1:32:34.840 --> 1:32:38.400 same thing. Yeah, I think ten wins. I mean that's 1:32:38.720 --> 1:32:41.040 Gardner Minshew takes a step up over where he was 1:32:41.120 --> 1:32:43.960 last year, and it is proven to be your franchise quarterback. 1:32:44.080 --> 1:32:46.519 D J. Charcott wasn't a one year hit wonder, which 1:32:46.520 --> 1:32:48.560 I don't think he's gonna be, and he shows that 1:32:48.640 --> 1:32:50.840 he could be a true number one. I mean those 1:32:50.880 --> 1:32:53.080 things happen. Yeah, I think they can win ten games, 1:32:53.640 --> 1:32:58.120 maybe eleven, but I'll say ten is my ceiling. Getta 1:32:58.160 --> 1:33:02.760 lock it. I didn't say that's what they're gonna win. 1:33:02.840 --> 1:33:07.880 I said it's the ceiling. How do you think they're 1:33:07.880 --> 1:33:11.640 gonna win? It is the first let's get that out there. 1:33:11.680 --> 1:33:15.080 On Twitter, Tony Vassilly says Jaguars to win eleven games. 1:33:16.800 --> 1:33:21.200 I said my ceilings. Now I didn't know. I think 1:33:21.280 --> 1:33:23.519 it's the question is what's their ceiling? Like, what's the 1:33:23.600 --> 1:33:25.479 most wins you can see them happen? And how many? 1:33:26.560 --> 1:33:30.599 How many do you think they're going to win? How 1:33:30.640 --> 1:33:33.200 many you think they're going I think it's right there 1:33:33.200 --> 1:33:37.479 in the middle, seven eight somewhere in there. Then you're 1:33:37.520 --> 1:33:42.519 stuffing around wild card one one one number not seven 1:33:42.600 --> 1:33:47.400 or right? What's your one number? By hey? Hey, okay? 1:33:49.120 --> 1:33:50.559 And how many do you think they're going to win? 1:33:50.640 --> 1:33:54.000 So you guys dance around that question. How do I do? 1:33:54.080 --> 1:34:00.000 It's around it? How many do you think? How many 1:34:00.000 --> 1:34:02.200 do you think that if I if I went through 1:34:02.200 --> 1:34:04.439 the schedule that a game by game analysis, I think 1:34:04.439 --> 1:34:11.160 they're gonna win eleven. Yeah, that thing we still have 1:34:11.280 --> 1:34:12.840 to do as well. We got Pete, we got to 1:34:12.920 --> 1:34:16.160 cut the game and we have to go. Please put 1:34:16.200 --> 1:34:19.280 that out nationally. If nobody will hire you wherever to 1:34:19.439 --> 1:34:27.040 do a Westwood One game, ton of it's tongue of cheek. 1:34:27.080 --> 1:34:29.320 I said the ceiling was ten, and they're like, they're 1:34:29.360 --> 1:34:32.880 gonna win eleven? What do I think? Um, it was 1:34:32.960 --> 1:34:35.200 a joke. It was a joke. Um, I think they're 1:34:35.200 --> 1:34:45.120 gonna win. I think they win seven games. Okay, I 1:34:45.200 --> 1:34:52.200 think they went seven. We'll go around the but is 1:34:52.280 --> 1:34:55.560 that successful? That's a big question. What about around the 1:34:55.600 --> 1:34:59.600 NFC South. I'll have a book report also, we'll go 1:34:59.640 --> 1:35:03.400 around the National Football League. A little less than thirty 1:35:03.439 --> 1:35:18.040 minutes left is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 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As far 1:38:34.520 --> 1:38:37.040 as the corners, I could speak for the corners, we're 1:38:37.080 --> 1:38:39.519 all kind of the young guys are kind of just 1:38:39.880 --> 1:38:42.719 their listeners right now. You know, they're trying to soak 1:38:42.840 --> 1:38:46.599 in anything that you know. The other guys can teach them, 1:38:46.880 --> 1:38:49.280 can teach them. Coaches can teach him. So I haven't 1:38:49.320 --> 1:38:52.200 really heard too much yet. From the from the corner 1:38:52.280 --> 1:38:55.360 room and their receivers. I feel like they're the same too. 1:38:55.439 --> 1:38:57.479 I feel like everybody's just kind of like then, just 1:38:57.600 --> 1:39:00.400 trying to do their job, not too much, you know, talking. 1:39:00.520 --> 1:39:02.600 But as the year goes on and will probably we 1:39:02.720 --> 1:39:08.200 get into games, it'll it'll come out game day. That's 1:39:08.280 --> 1:39:13.120 Trey Herndon, Jaguar's corner back and its third season Welcome 1:39:13.160 --> 1:39:16.719 Back Jaguars Happy Hour, J P. Shatrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli, 1:39:16.920 --> 1:39:20.160 and I would say it's a little different feel in 1:39:20.240 --> 1:39:23.160 that cornerback room from the past couple of years around here. 1:39:23.240 --> 1:39:25.600 There's no Jalen Ramsey, there's no a J boy A, 1:39:25.880 --> 1:39:30.479 and uh, it's not loud in that room as of yet. 1:39:30.600 --> 1:39:32.639 You heard Trey there say maybe when when the lights 1:39:32.720 --> 1:39:35.080 come on, that will change a little bit. But just 1:39:35.200 --> 1:39:38.559 walking through the door, the environment is much different, Pete 1:39:38.600 --> 1:39:42.880 than it has been in the past around here at cornerback. Well, yeah, 1:39:42.960 --> 1:39:45.479 I mean it used to be a position of strength 1:39:45.560 --> 1:39:47.479 and now it's a position of hope. I mean, you 1:39:47.600 --> 1:39:50.679 hope Henderson can turn into being a number one corner 1:39:50.800 --> 1:39:54.000 You hope Herndon continues to get better. Uh, if they do, 1:39:54.320 --> 1:39:55.960 then then I think they have a chance to be 1:39:56.040 --> 1:39:58.559 a good group. Hernd it proved last year he could 1:39:58.600 --> 1:40:01.799 be a nice fice the you know, number two corner, 1:40:02.360 --> 1:40:04.600 and he needs to continue to get better. And I 1:40:04.680 --> 1:40:06.960 think if Henderson could become a number one corner, it 1:40:07.000 --> 1:40:09.200 can become a good group again. But you know, it's 1:40:09.240 --> 1:40:12.160 a it's a position of hope. Now whereas when you 1:40:12.240 --> 1:40:15.439 had Boy and Ramsey, um, you know, it was a 1:40:15.479 --> 1:40:18.240 position of strength. It's not that anymore. And so I 1:40:18.320 --> 1:40:22.360 think that you know, you have to expect some growing 1:40:22.400 --> 1:40:26.920 pains along the way for both those guys. Yeah, I 1:40:26.920 --> 1:40:28.800 mean they're young players. I mean that's what I mean, 1:40:28.840 --> 1:40:31.160 that's what happens to young players. I think that's where 1:40:31.560 --> 1:40:34.640 you know, if you talk, wasn't it Bill Parcels And 1:40:34.760 --> 1:40:37.280 I don't want to attribute to the wrong legendary coach 1:40:37.400 --> 1:40:39.280 coach that says it's you know, it's it's hard to 1:40:39.360 --> 1:40:42.560 win with rookies. I mean, I mean, historically it is 1:40:42.680 --> 1:40:45.000 hard to count on and win with rookie not that 1:40:45.600 --> 1:40:48.479 it can't happen, but going into the season, you have 1:40:48.600 --> 1:40:51.800 to expect growing pain and guys to make mistakes. They're 1:40:51.880 --> 1:40:54.679 learning and I don't care how good they are, especially 1:40:54.760 --> 1:40:56.759 when they're surrounded with a lot of other good players, 1:40:56.760 --> 1:40:59.360 I mean young players. Um, it's one thing if you 1:40:59.400 --> 1:41:01.800 have a rookie a position surrounded by a lot of 1:41:01.880 --> 1:41:03.960 veterans and you can cover it up. I mean, I'll 1:41:04.000 --> 1:41:06.800 give me a perfect example. In nine, we had a 1:41:06.880 --> 1:41:09.880 very good team for Nando Bryant was a rookie starting 1:41:09.960 --> 1:41:12.479 at corner for that team, but he was surrounded by 1:41:12.600 --> 1:41:16.000 Carnel Lake, Um, you know, Aaron Beasley. I mean, you 1:41:16.080 --> 1:41:19.439 had a number of veteran guys on that defense that 1:41:19.880 --> 1:41:22.639 were around him, and so it made the transition easier. 1:41:22.720 --> 1:41:24.360 You look at c. J. Henderson, He's gonna be the 1:41:24.400 --> 1:41:28.559 opposite corner. Trey Herndon is really a second year starter, 1:41:29.080 --> 1:41:31.760 still a young guy. Now. D J. Hayden helps a lot. 1:41:31.920 --> 1:41:34.320 He's a veteran guy who's been around the block and 1:41:34.479 --> 1:41:37.280 is a very good nickel. You look at the to safeties, 1:41:37.360 --> 1:41:40.920 both young players, both full time starters last year. Um, 1:41:41.040 --> 1:41:42.720 and so that's where you start. You know, I think 1:41:43.080 --> 1:41:45.120 there's gonna be some ebbs and flows. I think c. J. 1:41:45.240 --> 1:41:47.599 Henderson's to be an outstanding player, you know, I think 1:41:47.640 --> 1:41:50.200 he has the right makeup. I think he's competitive as heck, 1:41:50.479 --> 1:41:52.720 you have to be that at that corner position. Um, 1:41:53.479 --> 1:41:56.439 but I think it's natural. I think peach right, Um, 1:41:56.520 --> 1:42:02.360 it's gonna be natural to expect some growing pains. Alright, fellas, 1:42:03.040 --> 1:42:06.120 last week we we promised as we are all at 1:42:06.120 --> 1:42:10.320 our home sets. Pete hass behind him on his set. 1:42:10.400 --> 1:42:13.640 If you're watching on at Jaguars, I'm at home with 1:42:13.880 --> 1:42:16.160 a bookshelf and things behind me. Tony, where are you 1:42:16.479 --> 1:42:21.320 this week? Where a padded room somewhere? That's what it 1:42:21.400 --> 1:42:28.400 looks like. Another undisclosed location. C I a y undisclosed location. 1:42:30.360 --> 1:42:34.840 Last week, you guys. The point is you guys. Last 1:42:34.880 --> 1:42:37.160 week I asked that I give a book report on 1:42:37.280 --> 1:42:39.760 one of these books behind me. And how do you 1:42:39.800 --> 1:42:42.240 guys want to do this this week? I want to, 1:42:42.720 --> 1:42:46.120 But I think Tony's right though J p JP. I 1:42:46.160 --> 1:42:48.400 think Tony's right. If the book is on the shelf 1:42:48.479 --> 1:42:51.560 behind you, you should have read it already. You just 1:42:51.640 --> 1:42:55.360 read it. Not necessarily true, That's not necessarily true. There 1:42:55.400 --> 1:42:59.559 are books do you just haven't gotten to yet. All 1:42:59.600 --> 1:43:01.799 right around, go to the second level of your bookshelf. 1:43:01.840 --> 1:43:04.840 I'm gonna tell you which book to pick. Okay, okay, 1:43:05.000 --> 1:43:08.360 you're gonna go. You're gonna go to the one right 1:43:08.360 --> 1:43:11.559 in the middle. It's green with big white lettering. Yep, 1:43:11.720 --> 1:43:19.400 that one right there. It's probably a was eight football 1:43:19.600 --> 1:43:23.160 great writing about the national sport right up Pete Prisco's alley. 1:43:23.240 --> 1:43:26.400 It's a number of different articles over the years. That's 1:43:26.439 --> 1:43:29.200 not that's like little bits and Pete, that's not a book. 1:43:29.320 --> 1:43:34.240 That's like all I'm telling you exactly what it is 1:43:34.360 --> 1:43:36.160 you want to report in the book or not, Pete. 1:43:36.240 --> 1:43:40.280 It's short stories or newspaper stories. Great writing about the 1:43:40.320 --> 1:43:43.760 support of football over the years, newspaper articles. You read 1:43:43.800 --> 1:43:47.160 the cover and let cale you just spit off your mouth, 1:43:47.680 --> 1:43:52.680 your chin. That's that's a that's a terrible that's not 1:43:52.800 --> 1:43:56.120 a that's like a put together book of all stories. 1:43:56.200 --> 1:43:59.880 That's not a book that she forget that one. That's 1:43:59.920 --> 1:44:03.880 a cafard. Just grab one, Just grab the one to 1:44:04.000 --> 1:44:07.759 the far right, no matter what it is. Second shelf 1:44:08.000 --> 1:44:10.200 righte that shelf far right, whatever that is, pull it out. 1:44:11.360 --> 1:44:15.000 Baseball in Birmingham. It's a photo book in fact, mainly 1:44:19.240 --> 1:44:24.960 one book on there that he can read. Well, JP, 1:44:26.160 --> 1:44:29.400 you put one of all short stories and articles, and 1:44:29.560 --> 1:44:31.280 one's a picture book. Do you have a book on 1:44:31.360 --> 1:44:35.920 there that you actually can read from? Here's one I 1:44:36.000 --> 1:44:37.880 got one here, This is one I got in college. 1:44:38.000 --> 1:44:41.120 It's by Red Barber. It's called The Broadcasters, a great 1:44:41.400 --> 1:44:45.280 baseball broadcaster of the Red's most notably the Dodgers, and 1:44:45.360 --> 1:44:46.960 he finished with the Yankees. He was one of the 1:44:47.000 --> 1:44:50.680 first two broadcasters inducted in Baseball's Hall of Fame and 1:44:50.760 --> 1:44:54.599 seventy eight. And it goes through his career um starting 1:44:54.640 --> 1:44:57.720 at the University of Florida and then getting to the 1:44:57.760 --> 1:45:01.240 big leagues in Cincinnati, move being up to the Dodgers. 1:45:01.320 --> 1:45:05.559 He has some great articles, are has some great chapters 1:45:05.600 --> 1:45:08.080 in here about some of the big years and moments 1:45:08.120 --> 1:45:11.360 in Dodgers history, including that seven season where he was 1:45:11.439 --> 1:45:14.720 the lead broadcaster and Jackie Robinson's first year they went 1:45:14.800 --> 1:45:17.360 to the World Series and lost to the Yankees in 1:45:17.840 --> 1:45:20.479 just an epic World Series and forty seven and then 1:45:20.560 --> 1:45:23.160 his move across the river to to the Yankees that 1:45:23.280 --> 1:45:26.080 only lasted a few years though working with mel Allen. 1:45:26.920 --> 1:45:30.080 Great book about his career, and it goes into a 1:45:30.200 --> 1:45:34.120 lot of the detail of broadcasting and the xes and os, 1:45:34.160 --> 1:45:37.679 the Nuts and Bolts of Baseball Broadcast. Yes, you could 1:45:37.720 --> 1:45:39.360 be making that up because I never read the book 1:45:39.400 --> 1:45:41.479 and I don't even know who you're talking about. UM, 1:45:41.800 --> 1:45:43.760 tell me, what are you asking me to do that? 1:45:43.880 --> 1:45:47.760 I just gave you a book. You I trust you. 1:45:48.320 --> 1:45:50.080 My question is this, and then we can end this 1:45:50.280 --> 1:45:53.120 terrible idea of a segment that I came up with. Um, 1:45:54.240 --> 1:45:58.400 what is the one what's the number one takeaway from 1:45:58.439 --> 1:46:01.640 that book that you learned reading about Red Barber? I 1:46:01.680 --> 1:46:07.680 think his name was, Yeah, was his name Tony? Um? 1:46:08.200 --> 1:46:10.479 You know when I first got the book was in college. 1:46:10.560 --> 1:46:14.559 So you're trying to learn how to do number one takeaway? 1:46:14.600 --> 1:46:17.200 I don't mean just it's very simple. So like, what's like, 1:46:17.400 --> 1:46:19.000 you know what? I read this book and I learned 1:46:19.120 --> 1:46:24.400 this about being a broadcast. I learned the preparation it takes. 1:46:24.680 --> 1:46:26.479 You can't just show up in the in the box, 1:46:26.880 --> 1:46:30.080 you know. It's the other question is is there anything 1:46:30.160 --> 1:46:35.800 on that shelf that's not a sports book. I've got 1:46:35.840 --> 1:46:41.080 World War two on the air, which is um, okay again, 1:46:41.120 --> 1:46:45.519 it's a radio report, broadcasting, it's a broadcasting book, radio book. 1:46:45.960 --> 1:46:50.200 They're all broadcast radio or sports. So basically and we 1:46:50.360 --> 1:46:57.840 met Pete. You live in a cocoon. Expand your host, 1:46:59.320 --> 1:47:02.640 Expand your risings. We're gonna end this segment. That's a 1:47:02.920 --> 1:47:08.160 terrible idea of a segment, Tony. 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And every day I'm getting ship. 1:51:13.280 --> 1:51:16.559 So especially being new, been una vague and a lot 1:51:16.600 --> 1:51:19.320 of highest patations, I'm really gonna taking any gym that 1:51:19.439 --> 1:51:22.160 comes in. So every day individuals and practice it means them. 1:51:22.200 --> 1:51:26.719 I'm trying to want something new. That's Calo and Jason. 1:51:26.880 --> 1:51:30.280 He's Spocal Media today and welcome back Jaguar's Happy Hour, 1:51:30.439 --> 1:51:36.240 j P, Shadrick Priscoe, Tony Boselli. Good to hear from 1:51:36.400 --> 1:51:41.800 Calevan today, Um j P. Jump jump start quick before 1:51:41.800 --> 1:51:43.800 we go, Okay, jump in real quick before we go. 1:51:44.240 --> 1:51:47.640 Can't waste to hear what you're going to say? What? No, 1:51:48.280 --> 1:51:51.639 it hit me And we're listening to Cable and Chason 1:51:51.800 --> 1:51:56.439 speak Um. One of the disappoints from here, amongst many 1:51:56.600 --> 1:51:59.639 in this COVID pandemic situation we have, is not getting 1:51:59.640 --> 1:52:02.360 to know these guys at all, because usually we'd be 1:52:02.439 --> 1:52:05.040 at camp, you're talking to them, you're around him, and 1:52:05.200 --> 1:52:09.800 we traveled with them on the road. Um, and that's 1:52:09.840 --> 1:52:12.439 not you know, that's not happening. And so it's gonna 1:52:12.439 --> 1:52:16.040 it's almost gonna be like this whole year. There's gonna 1:52:16.080 --> 1:52:21.400 be a whole class of guys that hopefully we're back 1:52:21.520 --> 1:52:23.800 to some normality next year and we're back around the 1:52:23.840 --> 1:52:26.600 team doing stuff and not all you know, kind of 1:52:26.640 --> 1:52:28.880 remotely like we are right now. We're got a lot 1:52:28.920 --> 1:52:31.880 of guys get to know because this is this whole 1:52:31.960 --> 1:52:35.479 rookie class. I mean JP, I mean you haven't even 1:52:35.520 --> 1:52:37.320 been around him. I mean nobody has out side of 1:52:37.360 --> 1:52:44.120 the coast. No occasional conference, that's about it. What about games? 1:52:44.160 --> 1:52:48.400 Are you gonna be doing games from the studio? I 1:52:48.439 --> 1:52:50.920 think we're still discussing that JP. JP mightn't have the 1:52:51.000 --> 1:52:53.240 latest there. We're still discussing how we're gonna be doing 1:52:53.280 --> 1:52:55.920 it and everything else. So that's all in flux as 1:52:56.000 --> 1:52:59.160 we try to figure out how both for the Jaguars 1:52:59.200 --> 1:53:01.200 and also for me waiting for Westwood One. Kind of 1:53:01.240 --> 1:53:02.840 how we're gonna handle that. I don't think the final 1:53:02.920 --> 1:53:06.000 decision has been made, um, And so yeah, it's gonna 1:53:06.000 --> 1:53:07.760 be a whole other things that we're gonna have to 1:53:07.840 --> 1:53:11.240 deal with. It's just weird. It's weird. It's I mean, 1:53:11.360 --> 1:53:13.920 like i'd be out for thirty days now and I'm nowhere. 1:53:14.200 --> 1:53:16.240 I can't I can't go talk to guys, can't go 1:53:16.400 --> 1:53:18.680 see new guys, can't go. So I text guys and 1:53:18.800 --> 1:53:21.000 say say, Okay, this guy's playing well, this guy's playing well. 1:53:21.200 --> 1:53:23.840 It's not the same. You're right, you can't get the no, guys, 1:53:23.880 --> 1:53:26.960 it's it's it's different, there's no question about it. But look, 1:53:27.040 --> 1:53:28.880 as long as we have a season, whatever way it 1:53:28.960 --> 1:53:32.200 works out, we'll all be happy for it. Yeah, we'll 1:53:32.200 --> 1:53:33.880 be happy. But it's still it's still one of the 1:53:33.960 --> 1:53:36.639 things that I missed because I love I mean coming 1:53:36.680 --> 1:53:41.360 football for me, um and like doing when Thursday nights 1:53:41.360 --> 1:53:44.639 for Westwood One. And it's not just you know, it's 1:53:44.840 --> 1:53:47.080 not gonna be paid to play talk about football. That's nice, 1:53:47.120 --> 1:53:49.639 don't get me wrong, Um, But part of the joy 1:53:49.880 --> 1:53:52.839 of the be being a part of the Januars organization 1:53:52.920 --> 1:53:55.559 and doing games like that. And then also for West 1:53:55.720 --> 1:53:58.080 One is being around the game and being around the 1:53:58.160 --> 1:54:01.240 guys and on the field before end and you know, 1:54:01.520 --> 1:54:04.200 getting nuggets and talking to him and learning and sharing 1:54:04.640 --> 1:54:07.840 my experiences with them. And none of that's gonna happen 1:54:07.880 --> 1:54:12.120 this year, um, because even if we are traveling, I mean, 1:54:12.400 --> 1:54:14.120 because of the tiered approach and how they have the 1:54:14.160 --> 1:54:15.840 different tiers for the players, not like we're gonna be 1:54:15.840 --> 1:54:17.599 allowed on the field to go talk to him before 1:54:17.640 --> 1:54:20.960 the game. Um, I'll miss that, And that's one of 1:54:20.960 --> 1:54:25.400 the big disappointment disappointments for me in this COVID world 1:54:25.520 --> 1:54:28.320 were living right now. You won't miss the cold of 1:54:28.400 --> 1:54:30.439 Kansas City the last time we were on the field, 1:54:32.280 --> 1:54:34.520 but I'll miss it. That was great. I mean that 1:54:35.240 --> 1:54:38.240 like that's experience, and I mean that's but but Pete, 1:54:38.280 --> 1:54:41.200 you're right, like you couldn't You couldn't have written as 1:54:41.240 --> 1:54:44.800 well about that game without being there because you experienced 1:54:44.840 --> 1:54:47.400 the cold and you understood it and like you felt 1:54:47.520 --> 1:54:51.000 what was going on and post game you felt the 1:54:51.160 --> 1:54:53.760 energy of the Chiefs fans were going to the Super 1:54:53.760 --> 1:54:57.320 Bowl for the first time in fifty years. I mean, 1:54:57.640 --> 1:54:59.760 like that down on the field after the game with 1:55:00.000 --> 1:55:03.040 a microphone, getting guys our camera, getting guys on camera 1:55:03.200 --> 1:55:05.960 right after. You're right, you can't experience it if unless 1:55:05.960 --> 1:55:10.200 you're not there. Yeah, and that we would. Was it 1:55:10.320 --> 1:55:12.600 that week where you were in the parking lot pregame 1:55:12.880 --> 1:55:15.400 chattering with snow blowing or was that a different week 1:55:15.520 --> 1:55:19.920 that was the week before? Actually that was the week before. Yeah, 1:55:19.960 --> 1:55:23.160 there was no snow that week. Remember, Tony was just cold. 1:55:23.280 --> 1:55:27.320 It was bitter cold. That was. That was as cold 1:55:27.440 --> 1:55:31.480 as the Packers Giants playoff game for me, and then 1:55:32.000 --> 1:55:35.000 the playoff game in New England when the Titans played there, 1:55:35.120 --> 1:55:37.920 and then your playoff game in New England that one 1:55:38.000 --> 1:55:42.880 year was pretty cold too. Yeah. Let's touch on a 1:55:42.920 --> 1:55:47.680 few nuggets. Let's touch on a few nuggets around the 1:55:47.880 --> 1:55:51.440 National Football League. Safety Earl Thomas released by the Ravens 1:55:51.560 --> 1:55:55.280 in an announcement saying, quote, we've terminated in safety ear 1:55:55.280 --> 1:55:59.920 Old Thomas's contract for personal conduct that has adversely affect 1:56:00.040 --> 1:56:03.440 did the Baltimore Ravens end quote he was going to 1:56:03.520 --> 1:56:07.240 make a fully guaranteed ten million dollars salary even without 1:56:07.400 --> 1:56:10.040 this year's salary. If they can get that money, it'll 1:56:10.160 --> 1:56:13.040 leave him with twenty two million dollars for one year 1:56:13.080 --> 1:56:17.400 of service. Pete, Well, there was a fight in practice, 1:56:17.480 --> 1:56:19.920 he missed a couple of assignments, and and Chuck Clark 1:56:20.080 --> 1:56:21.840 was a young safety who was played really well for 1:56:21.920 --> 1:56:23.760 him last year, got into it with him. But it 1:56:23.880 --> 1:56:26.000 was more than that. It was late for meetings. He 1:56:26.640 --> 1:56:29.760 I heard, he was missed a walk through, wasn't as 1:56:29.840 --> 1:56:31.720 focused as he should have been, and he hasn't been 1:56:31.720 --> 1:56:34.920 a great teammate. And and the players, the leadership counsel said, look, 1:56:35.280 --> 1:56:37.120 we signed with Chuck, get him out of here, and 1:56:37.200 --> 1:56:39.840 they did. I'm okay with that. By the way, you 1:56:39.840 --> 1:56:42.000 don't see people knocking down the door to go sign him, 1:56:42.040 --> 1:56:46.200 do you. Well. I read a report today Pete that 1:56:46.280 --> 1:56:48.280 he missed a meeting because he said he had to 1:56:48.320 --> 1:56:53.240 get his car washed right, and he missed a walk through. 1:56:53.720 --> 1:56:57.000 I mean, it'll look now. The question is the question 1:56:57.160 --> 1:56:59.400 is is you'll see it. You're you're gonna see a 1:57:00.600 --> 1:57:04.440 he's gonna file a what's it called the grievance. Yeah, 1:57:05.600 --> 1:57:08.640 he's a file of grievance because um, they're gonna take 1:57:08.680 --> 1:57:12.360 the ten million that is guaranteed, because the key phrase 1:57:12.440 --> 1:57:15.000 in that statement you read JP as they felt like 1:57:15.040 --> 1:57:18.680 it was convect detrimental, which gives the team the ability 1:57:18.760 --> 1:57:22.640 to cut a player in waiting any guaranteed money guarantee. 1:57:23.400 --> 1:57:27.320 Earl Thomas and his representatives will fight that. Yeah, here's 1:57:27.360 --> 1:57:29.200 the eye of the question. He'll sign a deal. He's 1:57:29.200 --> 1:57:31.440 not gonna get a ten million dollar year deal from 1:57:31.440 --> 1:57:33.720 Anybody's gonna get an incentive laden deal for a year 1:57:33.800 --> 1:57:39.840 from somebody, maybe the Cowboys. NFL commissioner Roger Gonnelle made 1:57:39.880 --> 1:57:43.320 an appearance on the YouTube series Uncomfortable Conversations with a 1:57:43.360 --> 1:57:46.040 Black Man, and he said that he wishes the NFL 1:57:46.240 --> 1:57:50.919 quote had listened earlier. In quote to Cullen Kaepernick regarding 1:57:50.960 --> 1:57:53.640 why he began kneeling in two sixteen, Pete, what do 1:57:53.720 --> 1:57:57.240 you make of the commissioners appearance? Well, why didn't he 1:57:57.320 --> 1:58:00.720 say that before then? Yep, yep, you have plenty of 1:58:00.800 --> 1:58:02.200 time to say it, and now all of a sudden 1:58:02.200 --> 1:58:06.600 he says it. Look, Karlin Kaepernick had issues, Don't get 1:58:06.640 --> 1:58:09.360 me wrong. As a player, you know, that's part of 1:58:09.400 --> 1:58:11.160 the reason why some teams didn't sign up. But he 1:58:11.160 --> 1:58:13.080 should have been in the league period, end of story. 1:58:13.240 --> 1:58:16.000 Should have been a backup quarterback in the NFL at 1:58:16.040 --> 1:58:19.800 the worst case scenario if he didn't, some teams offer 1:58:19.840 --> 1:58:21.520 him a chance to be a backup and he said 1:58:21.560 --> 1:58:23.840 he didn't want to, thinking, uh, well, I know he 1:58:23.960 --> 1:58:26.760 turned out at Denver early after he got cut right 1:58:26.800 --> 1:58:31.240 away never that was actually the year before. Remember they 1:58:31.280 --> 1:58:32.640 were going to go make a move for him and 1:58:32.960 --> 1:58:35.160 and sign him and he didn't want Yeah, and then 1:58:35.240 --> 1:58:39.120 Seattle inquired about it. There is also talking how much 1:58:39.160 --> 1:58:44.160 did he love it? I don't know. Um, yeah, I mean, 1:58:45.640 --> 1:58:48.360 is count is Colin Kaepernick one of the most UH 1:58:48.880 --> 1:58:51.640 sixty top sixty four talented quarterbacks in this league? I 1:58:51.680 --> 1:58:55.320 would say yes, without doubt, Yes, absolutely if you based it. 1:58:55.480 --> 1:58:57.760 If you based it around just that, then I would repeat, 1:58:57.800 --> 1:59:00.840 you should have been on a team unfortun really, Um, 1:59:01.080 --> 1:59:03.840 A lot of things go into um and I'm not 1:59:03.840 --> 1:59:06.200 even speaking just in the callin Kaepernick situation, but if 1:59:06.240 --> 1:59:08.280 you look at why guys get signed and don't get signed, 1:59:08.480 --> 1:59:10.880 like I guarantee you, Earl Thomas is probably one of 1:59:10.880 --> 1:59:13.880 the best thirty two safeties in the NFL. And there's 1:59:13.880 --> 1:59:18.120 a bunch of teams in one way Kaepernicks, Kaepernick wasn't 1:59:18.200 --> 1:59:20.080 loved in his locker room. I can tell you that one. 1:59:22.320 --> 1:59:24.600 And I'm not saying Kaepernick did anything wrong like Earl 1:59:24.680 --> 1:59:26.640 Thomas dies. I'm just saying there's always a lot of 1:59:26.720 --> 1:59:30.800 things that go into whether team signs a player or not. Obviously, um, 1:59:31.240 --> 1:59:34.280 the social injustice that Caled Kaepernick has stood for is 1:59:34.600 --> 1:59:36.840 frent and center right now, and it's a conversation that 1:59:36.920 --> 1:59:39.080 needs to be happy. He needs to be had. Tony 1:59:39.160 --> 1:59:43.240 was silly, Pete Frisco, I'm j P. Shadrick. No more 1:59:43.360 --> 1:59:46.160 book reports. We'll see you next week. It's Jaguars Happy 1:59:46.240 --> 1:59:48.240 Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.