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Speaker 1: It is Monday, August four. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now

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Speaker 1: TikTok's highest rated singing barbecue Chef K. P. Shadrick. I

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Speaker 1: have never never made one TikTok. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: how to do it. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, J P.

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Speaker 1: Shadrick on this Monday afternoon. As always, Pete Briscoe, Tony

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Speaker 1: BASSELLI join us, and we've got a program today with

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Speaker 1: these two maintenance days, another one today for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: Will get into the guys who were off to the

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Speaker 1: side of indoors today and what that really means. From

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Speaker 1: head coach Doug Marrone. A little more offensive line talk

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Speaker 1: George Warops book over the weekend about the state of

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Speaker 1: the left tackle position. We'll get Tony's thoughts on that,

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Speaker 1: some quarterback talk as well, social question or two, and

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Speaker 1: then we'll go around the National Football League. Pete, Tony,

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Speaker 1: what's up, Tony? How are we doing today? Well? I

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Speaker 1: got issues here, I got all kinds of video issues,

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Speaker 1: but I'm doing good, doing good. How are you guys doing?

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Speaker 1: What kind of Florida? What kind of issues. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: can't see either, but that's okay. That's not a bad thing,

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Speaker 1: not seeing you two. I'm okay with that. We're in

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Speaker 1: high definition, Pete. Speak for yourself. High definition. It brings

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Speaker 1: out all your flaws even more so, j P. I

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Speaker 1: hate to tell you that. Oh wow, takes one to

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Speaker 1: know one, Pete. Thank you very much. You know, it

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Speaker 1: has been a positive day on the COVID nineteam front,

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Speaker 1: and in fact, well not a positive day, a negative day.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the league just a few minutes ago announced

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Speaker 1: some of the results from August twelve and twentieth that week.

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Speaker 1: In that span over a week there between August twelve

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Speaker 1: in August, they administered just over fifty eight thousand tests

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Speaker 1: to about NFL players and personnel, and they had zero

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Speaker 1: confirmed positives among players and only six among personnel. Pete.

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Speaker 1: That is pretty remarkable, it really is. And it's a

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Speaker 1: tribute to a the players because I expected a few

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Speaker 1: knuckleheads to go out and bring it back in once

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Speaker 1: in a while, but they haven't done that, which is

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Speaker 1: a good thing. Uh. And I think it's a real

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Speaker 1: and the money that the owners have spent to make things,

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Speaker 1: as you know, secure and as safe as possibly can be.

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Speaker 1: So it's a good it's a great look for the league.

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Speaker 1: You know, people, let's be honest about it. There were

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Speaker 1: many in the media who thought that this would be

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Speaker 1: a disaster. They predicted it. It's kind of like the

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Speaker 1: people in the media who predicted Florida would become the

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Speaker 1: it relates to this virus. So I think that this

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Speaker 1: this is a situation where the NFL should be given

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Speaker 1: a ton of credit and by the way, the entire

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Speaker 1: offseason they should be given a ton of credit. Remember

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Speaker 1: in the midst of this thing, they said, oh, you

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Speaker 1: done a really good job with it. Let's hope it

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Speaker 1: stays that way. Wow, Pete being positive, it's a shocking

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Speaker 1: state of affairs here today on the Monday Show. Usually

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Speaker 1: I think it's handled perfectly. Now. The real test, though,

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Speaker 1: how do they manage if you do have a positive test.

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Speaker 1: What would have happened if the false positives that the

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Speaker 1: would do, Tony? As you put the push the game

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Speaker 1: You just push it to Monday, fix it, go back,

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Speaker 1: You get you know how many guys have already had

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Speaker 1: And you look how healthy I am right now. Picture

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Speaker 1: of solid gold right here. Come on. Yeah, no one

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Speaker 1: back in the practice field today. But well, some of

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Speaker 1: the Jags were back in the practice field today. Twenty

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Speaker 1: six weeks. You're gonna have fourteen hard practices. That's two

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Speaker 1: he's entering his second year. It's a new offense. He

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Speaker 1: that just adds to the list of things that had

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Speaker 1: happened on this defensive line already. Know two top free

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Speaker 1: agents are not around. Other guys are hurt or have

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Speaker 1: retired two suspensions at the start of the season, and

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Speaker 1: Carl Davis and Josh Morrow they're not available. So, as

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Speaker 1: you said, Tony, you know it's a group that is

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Speaker 1: relatively thin. They've got Journey in there, and he's flashed

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Speaker 1: a little bit the first few days of camp. What

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Speaker 1: have you seen out of Journey Gain on that tape

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Speaker 1: you've washed? You know there's moments. I mean, he has

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Speaker 1: some nice place in that Saturday practice. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: a big explosive guy that you know, you know he

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Speaker 1: still has it in him. The question is how many

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Speaker 1: does he have in him per game? And so how

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Speaker 1: often can he stay out there? Can he hold up

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Speaker 1: uh playing and play out That would be my big question.

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Speaker 1: But he has flashes, There's no doubt about it. Um.

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Speaker 1: I mean you look at Taman Brian I said it before.

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Speaker 1: He had to be a guy that was one of

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Speaker 1: and he had to be disruptive. Um. He had shown

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Speaker 1: some nice things on tape and you can see the

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Speaker 1: explosives of strength. Um, the question is canna go find

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Speaker 1: the ball that's always been you know, he is he

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Speaker 1: maturing there it looks like he's doing better and better,

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Speaker 1: but with a bone bruising him out. That is like

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Speaker 1: I Doug said it perfect, it's week the week, it's

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Speaker 1: where where is the bone bruise? Uh? And what is

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Speaker 1: the severity of it? And so just to everyone listen

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Speaker 1: to you get a bone bruise I've having before. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And if they're at a weight bearing portion of your knee,

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Speaker 1: it's basically a bunch of micro fractures in your knees

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Speaker 1: where the bone bruise ends up being. Um. And if

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Speaker 1: you don't let it heal, it can be lingering in

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Speaker 1: a real pain and you know what. Um. And so

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Speaker 1: depending on this verity of it where it is in

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Speaker 1: the knee, you know, we'll determine how long he's out.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it's mild uh, nothing too serious and uh he

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Speaker 1: can be back, you know, you know a week or something. Tony,

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Speaker 1: how did Hamilton's look on the table. He's a big body. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know he's gonna think when you're gonna get out

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Speaker 1: of him. As he gets more comfortable, he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a big run stuff in, you know, eat up space

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Speaker 1: little bit slow reaction wise. He's not gonna get me

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Speaker 1: I think you know that's who he is. I think

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Speaker 1: he I think him and Avery basically rotate at that

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Speaker 1: impact right away from a guy like Hamilton's for sure.

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Speaker 1: And have to define what does impact mean because a

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Speaker 1: all this different stuff. An impact for him might just

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Speaker 1: And it might not show up a bunch of the stats,

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Speaker 1: show Burton and Miles Jack and we make plays and

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Speaker 1: I always say that because as people listen, you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes the impact isn't what you think. It's not the

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna be guys like Hamilton's step up if

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Speaker 1: they want to fix that. Yes, sometimes it's the snaps

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Speaker 1: his thing. That that's where an impact be to your point, Tony,

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Speaker 1: for sure, Hey, let's come back. We'll go offensive line.

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Speaker 1: So you know, earlier in the in the E Converse

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Speaker 1: And you know he said earlier Cam it wasn't really

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Speaker 1: what does Cam Robinson mean to this offensive line was

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Speaker 1: the question that was the answer with Cam is gonna

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Speaker 1: be the starting left tackle. And I don't think it

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Speaker 1: gets much clearer than that, Tony. Um, Yeah, no, I

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Speaker 1: mean if you watch the tape, I mean, he's playing better.

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Speaker 1: He's the better left tackle right now. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's clear today. I mean I thought it was a

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Speaker 1: competition coming in, but Cam is Uh. From what I've

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Speaker 1: he's worked on, he's cleaned up. He looks like he's

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Speaker 1: in shape this year. Um, he looks like a guy

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Speaker 1: who get ready to play in his contract years what

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Speaker 1: he looks like to me. And that's a good thing

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Speaker 1: because Cam's talented and big, physical, athletic, I mean, all

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Speaker 1: the things you want. And so I think George is right.

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Speaker 1: George Warhopp, offense line coach, is dead on that he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be your left tackle. Um, I thought, I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, let me bring my cynical side out. I

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Speaker 1: think it's funny that he said that. The good news

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Speaker 1: is they don't have to worry about any maintenance in

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Speaker 1: the managing of Cam because of his need, but then

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Speaker 1: he had a maintenance to it. But he was one

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Speaker 1: of the guys who had the maintenance day Today. Isn't

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Speaker 1: it early to crown a champ though, Tony? I mean

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Speaker 1: we thought he would be the starter. And I wonder

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Speaker 1: if Maron was okay with Warhop letting that out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: because it hadn't been it hadn't been out until he

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Speaker 1: think could you imagine if Mike Maser said something like

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Speaker 1: the difference is here's a big difference. None of those

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Speaker 1: guys ever talk to the media, and they weren't allowed.

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Speaker 1: you want, if you watch practice, I think it's clear

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Speaker 1: that Cam's better right now. Um. So, I mean your

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Speaker 1: who knows? At this point? How many more practice do

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Speaker 1: you really have? Your um if your will works in

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Speaker 1: to win the job, I mean, you have a scrimmage

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Speaker 1: from you. Yeah. What what happens though? If if Robinson

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Speaker 1: I don't know what conversations are having, you know, in

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Speaker 1: the building. I mean right now, if you watch them,

638
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: tape cam is clearly better. It's not really close to me. Um.

639
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: And so maybe Georgia just speaking that was he good

640
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: on Was he good on Saturday? In the scrimmage or

641
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: whatever they called it on Saturday? Was he good? Now? Yeah? Yeah,

642
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Speaker 1: I mean I think he had one mrs sigment or

643
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: that it wasn't missing. He had a bad down box

644
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: against Tavid Taben made a real nice play blew it up. Um,

645
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would say overall, yeah, I thought it

646
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: was solid. Techniques better because that's one of your you

647
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: guys have open side about his technique, Yeah, it's been

648
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: His footwork is so much better in the past game,

649
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: and that's the thing I've really been focusing on. And

650
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 1: so um, I think that's a good thing. And I mean, Pete,

651
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: does it surprise you it's his contract here, you guys talented. No,

652
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me. Is but it sounds like and

653
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him, but it sounds like from what

654
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 1: you guys say, his body's in ten times better shape

655
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: than he looks great. He looks great well. And if

656
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: he had, like you said, if he has a good year,

657
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna make a boatload of money. And if he

658
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: has a good year, the offensive line is gonna be

659
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: pretty good, right. I mean think about that if you

660
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: because I think the right tackle is gonna be a

661
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: really good player. Uh, the center and the left guard

662
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: or solid players, and maybe the centers above solid and

663
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: then whatever you get out of the right guard. He's inconsistent,

664
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: but he has his moments. That line could be pretty

665
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: good this year if he's good. Yeah, I mean that's

666
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: what they're hoping for. I mean, I still worry about

667
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 1: the run game because I'm still not convinced that they're

668
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: tight end group. I like them better from a pass

669
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: catching I mean, Iffort looks good on tape. You know,

670
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: you can tell he's a professional tight end, Like he

671
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: knows how to get open and find space in the secondary.

672
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: He's good. Um. I mean, I don't think he's would

673
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: be the tile I for that when he came to

674
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: the league, was one of the more dynamic tight ends.

675
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: But he is a good player. I still worry about

676
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: can they hold up on the edge though, in the

677
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: run game, Like who's going to be that blocking tight

678
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: end that's gonna hold up on a six technique, a

679
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: head up defensive end playing a four or three so

680
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: they can run the ball, because if you can't block

681
00:36:53,280 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: the edges, you can't run the ball on tight end. Here.

682
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: Let's finish up on the offensive line discussion here, and

683
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: let's hear from Juwan Taylor, the right tackle. He spoke

684
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: over the weekend as well about the physicality that this

685
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: group can bring up from. We're definitely putting a big

686
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: emphasis on, you know, get more push off the line,

687
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: being more physical at the point of contact. So we've

688
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: definitely been focusing on that every day. Uh, because Warhouthen

689
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: preaching that us every single day that you know, we

690
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: need to get more movement off the line and you know,

691
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: create more space for our running basket. A lot of

692
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: we got a lot of good back, so we gotta

693
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 1: make some space for him and create plays with him.

694
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: You can, you can say it, but it's a matter

695
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: of going out and do it. And as to your point, Tony,

696
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: it's it's more than just those five guys. It's the

697
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: tight ends, it's the fullback, all those guys involved. Pete,

698
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: sorry to cut you off there, but I wanted to

699
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 1: get you on in there because he's a guy who's

700
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: penalized a bunch of last year. Can he work past that?

701
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: And what kind of player can he be now? In

702
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: year two? I think he's gonna be a dominant player.

703
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: I think he has a chance to be uh their

704
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: best right tackle to Leon seriously and and maybe even better.

705
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: And Leon was the heck of a player, but this

706
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: guy has a chance to be a long term guy.

707
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: Leon's career in Jacksonville was very condensed. Obviously, he got hurt.

708
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: He came over as a free agent. But I think

709
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: this is this is a guy who can be there

710
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: draft and developed right tackle goes to you know, two

711
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: or three Pro Bowls down the line. That technique, stuff,

712
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: the mistakes, that's all part of being a young player.

713
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: I think he learned a ton last year. It was

714
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: great to play him. You get in there and you play,

715
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: and Tony you can speak that better than I can.

716
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: I imagine you learn more in one game playing than

717
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: you do in you know, thirty practices on the practice field. Well, yeah,

718
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: I mean I think you learn a lot. I mean,

719
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: be in the game situations of understanding you know the

720
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: different situations and the different type of guys you're gonna play,

721
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: and then you know and how to react and more

722
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: than anything, probably being comfortable out there. I mean the

723
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: more reps you get out there in more game situations,

724
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: like there's a comfort level of like knowing you've done

725
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: it um and that you can handle it. And think

726
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: after his rookie year and the way he performed, I

727
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: think he should be confident going to this year like, hey,

728
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: I have the ability to be one of the better

729
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: right tackles. As you talked about Pete in the NFL, Well, yeah,

730
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: it's it's important for him to to keep developing. Obviously,

731
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: and we touched on the interior of this offensive line

732
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: to we know Lender obviously he's been around here for

733
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: a while. He's on a second contract. Norwell had some

734
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: criticism at times, but um, a good solid veteran left

735
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: left guard in this league and then a j can

736
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: at the right guard spot of veteran guy who has

737
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: been resigned by the team. They're all back, that's you know,

738
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, how did they play

739
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: Tony and then hey, they're all back. So apparently it

740
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: was improvement as the year went along, right or is

741
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: this a press start? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know about that, Jap.

742
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: I mean, this is an offense. I only scored three

743
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: points a game for seven straight games. It was an

744
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: offense that couldn't run the ball consistently. It's an offense

745
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: that they had to play, according to the head coach

746
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 1: now Gardner Minshew, because they couldn't. They needed a quarterback

747
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: who could make people miss in the pocket and extend plays.

748
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: And so to say that that they're brought this group

749
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: back because they were happy with how they were performing,

750
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: I find that tough to believe based on what the

751
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: head coach told us last year and what the numbers

752
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: told us. I think that's why I think I think

753
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: there was some surprise that there wasn't you know, some

754
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: moves made, whether earlier in the draft or whatever, to

755
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 1: see if they can solidify their offense line a little bit. Um.

756
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: And so I'm hoping, um that what we've seen out

757
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: of Cam you know, you go across the board and

758
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: each guy is a little bit better and improves and

759
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: it becomes more consistent. Because I don't think it's a

760
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: talent issue. I think it's a consistency issue. And uh.

761
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: And so that I think that's what you know if

762
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: you're George Warhop and I think what Joe On Taylor's

763
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: told us, it's like he's continually to beat the druma like, hey,

764
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: we need to be more, get more movement, we need

765
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: to be consistent. It's playing and play out. So um,

766
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: that's the thing that I think will be interesting this year. Uh.

767
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: But I would disagree with you if the message is, hey,

768
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: we really feel good and we have a great Our

769
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: offensive line was where we wanted it last year, so

770
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: we just brought them all back, um, at least not

771
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: based on what the stats and what the head coach

772
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: told us last year. Right, But they could be much

773
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: like you imagined tone in the run game. And if

774
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: they're improved in the run game and they can't block

775
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 1: the edges, it's not really going to matter that much.

776
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean that that pot point is spot on. They

777
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: have to be able to block the edges. I gotta

778
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 1: block the days for sure. Let's come back. Well, we'll

779
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: talk wide receivers when we return. Um, that's the final

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Speaker 1: ten Ton x l a M Radio. We promised wide

847
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: receiver discussion. Well d D. Westbrook's not out there and

848
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: this is the last couple of days Saturday and Sunday

849
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: with a shoulder issue. He's again week the week. That's

850
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: what Doug Maron said this morning. Other than that, everybody

851
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: else is out there and actually playing pretty well. They've

852
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: flashed in camp at least in my opinion so far.

853
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: Tony guys like Chark obviously you expect um, but Conley

854
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: has had his moments. Cole had a couple of really

855
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: nice reps today against the C J. Henderson and the

856
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: rookie corner Chinault. Just walking across the field, you can

857
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: tell he's got something special. And and then Colin Johnson

858
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: has that height to him. So Tony, they've they've got

859
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: some pieces here, it feels like to me. Now the

860
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: question is when the lights come on, can that equate? Well,

861
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: it's interesting so and I haven't watched every practice on

862
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: tape um, but you're right, they do flash and they're impressive.

863
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: They're young, though, and so that's the question. Outside calmly,

864
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: you wonder, you know, you don't have a lot of

865
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: experience in that group, and so it's a little bit

866
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: of still prove it to me type of situation. I mean,

867
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: obviously had a great year last year, but it's one

868
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: year I think he's dinna have a great year this

869
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: year as well, and I think so, No, it would

870
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: be a nice piece. Um. You have to contemper your

871
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: expectations sometimes with those rookie wide receivers because it can

872
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: take some time to get going a little bit. But

873
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: he definitely has all the tools, you know. But the

874
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: interesting thing about for me about the passing game JP,

875
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: and you've seen all the practices, I've not seen them all.

876
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: There's times where it really looks good and I'm talking

877
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: about Gardner, Minshew and the receivers, and we've seen some

878
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: really accurate beat balls from Gardner and the guys who

879
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: can go get it. But then there's times that this

880
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like the receivers and the quarterback are

881
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: on the same page. I mean, I go back to Saturday,

882
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: look at a round over the middle, and either Gardner

883
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: was wrong where he thought Chark was gonna be or

884
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: chart that you know, broke out over the middle when

885
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: you're supposed to curl in. Um. And so there's been

886
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: like a handful of those times that you're I'm watching,

887
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, hunt, it just seems like a little bit

888
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: off throws might you would think be a little bit easier. Um.

889
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: And whether it's you know, the route being wrong, ran

890
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: at the wrong level, or turning out when you're supposed

891
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: to turn in, or whatever it is. There's just been

892
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: a couple of misques that happening camp. But because you

893
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: have limited time and it is a lot of young guys, Um,

894
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: you gotta clean that stuff up. Now. How many will

895
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: they keep? Do you think, Tony? How many will they keep? Uh?

896
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: Probably six? I think they keep six? Yeah, okay, so Chark,

897
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: Westbrook Channel, who else? UM keep charm so no, I

898
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: think those so not? I think uh Westbrook will be

899
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: her four. Um, I think they keep John College. I

900
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: think they keep in the rookie and then probably Keen.

901
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: So you keep calling Keelan Cole. You know, because I've

902
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: been reading some of this stuff and I have seen

903
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: any practice, but it sat and talk to people, it

904
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: sounds like healing Cole actually looks better. But for me today,

905
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: the biggest concerned he might have looked good against c. J. Henderson.

906
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: That's not a good thing for the defense. Keiling Cole

907
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: beating up on c. J. Henderson your first round pick

908
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: is not a good thing. And I know he was.

909
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: That's if if that's a pattern. That's a bad look.

910
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's a pattern. But let's not jump

911
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: to conclusions here, Mr Priscoe, I'm not doing any day.

912
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: Shouldn't happen if you're the first round pictures now a

913
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: day like that. If you play enough, man, you're gonna

914
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: get beat. I don't care who you are. I mean,

915
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: that's not keeling Colby Jalen Ramsey At times during the

916
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: tenure here, so did you JP so to other people?

917
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: M Yeah, you know, I'm kind of with you here, Tony.

918
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: But because Henderson the first week at camp, everybody couldn't

919
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: stop talking about how good he was. Yeah, yeah, we're not.

920
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: Let's not pull this out of proportion. I mean fires

921
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: and like you know, starting controversy. There's no place bust already. Tony.

922
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm a believer. I'm a buster and the kid. I'm

923
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: a believer in the kid. I think he's a good

924
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: cover corner. I think he's gonna be a good player.

925
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: And that's not what you just said, Pete. It's a

926
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: little You need to figure out what I was reading

927
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: today that he got beat a budge, that's that's a

928
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: concern he did. Where'd you read it? Twitter on on

929
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: the websites and Twitter. Yeah, so there's a there's a

930
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: couple of videos beat all the time, though it's a

931
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: little bit of exaggeration, a couple of one on one

932
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: kind of red zone drills back to back in fact,

933
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: where then in the second JP JP you were there.

934
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: If you had the grade C. J. Henderson's day, give

935
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: me a grade um C minus. That's not good, but

936
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: it's one day, okay, okay, j P. If you had

937
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: the great C. J. Henderson over this entire camp, which

938
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: is great plus, Okay, that's good. You're there. I'm not

939
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: so I'd like to hear that. Yeah. I think he's

940
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 1: been fine so far, and he is one day an illness,

941
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: so cut cut him some slack. Pete. Well, look, I said,

942
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: if it's a pattern, it's a problem, it's not then good.

943
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a good player. I don't

944
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: think that's a position to worry about. On that side,

945
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: I think Herndon's a feisty little player. I think their

946
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 1: corners will be better than people think they are. I'll

947
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I don't think there's an elite

948
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: guy there, but I think they'll be better than people

949
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: think they are. And if you want to say, where's

950
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: your concern on the defense, and it's not the secondary

951
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: per se, I think because I actually think the stafeties

952
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: are and I think you know, Harrison's gonna have a

953
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: better year. I think he'll get better. I mean, he

954
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: has talent um, and so I think the safety will

955
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: be will be okay as well. I'm with Pete. I

956
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: think the linebacker level, I'm hoping that Myles Jacket will

957
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: be a better situation for him. I think show Bert

958
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: and upgraded at Mike after Jared Allen up front. Boy,

959
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: I think you got a lot of questions. I agree, yeah, um,

960
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: a lot of questions that the clock's running low on

961
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: time to answer those questions. Not not a lot of

962
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: time left in training camp here in and who knows,

963
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of points this year, Fellas better score

964
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: a lot of points this year, Fellas. But do you

965
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 1: think this office is set to score a lot of points.

966
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what what he's gonna plan to do

967
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: with him, but you know, sometimes Tony, you have to

968
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: play to your defense and to me, and I'm sure

969
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: you agree with me. You look at this on the surface,

970
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: it looks like it's going to be a defense that

971
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 1: struggles a little bit or a lot. And if that's

972
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: the case, go try and score a lot of points.

973
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: You know, don't play trying to miss my point. You're

974
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: missing my point. Do you think they tried to only

975
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: score an average of three points a game? Style? They

976
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: are they explosive enough to score a bunch of points?

977
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: That's my question. I don't know answer that question. I

978
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: can question because right so, but again, you're gonna have

979
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: to score more points than you know. I mean, I'm

980
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: not saying they didn't want to score points. That's a

981
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: stupid thing to say. But you gotta play a little looser,

982
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: a little free, or let them go. If because that

983
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: defense is gonna be a liability, would you not agree

984
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: to be that the defense will be more of a

985
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: liability than the offense. Yes, but I I hate with

986
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: a passion when you start making comments they need to

987
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: play a little more free and open, Like what does

988
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: that mean? Because you say things that I don't think

989
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: you can describe what that actually means. It made you

990
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: throwing early downs more. I think they did that earl

991
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: later in the year. But when mit you went back

992
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: in there trying but they were also playing with a kid.

993
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: They were playing with the kids starting a quarterback last year. Now,

994
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: now you have a kid that's been at least been

995
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: in this He's not been a system, but he's been

996
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: with the team that they know what he's more familiar

997
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: with his receivers, a comfortable quarterback, and he's what you

998
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: think he is, then let him throw it early downs.

999
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: I agree, But to say he's like, he's not an assistant,

1000
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: he's comfortable with It's a brand new office scoring. They

1001
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: have a brand new tight end, you know. I mean,

1002
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: there's some peace. It's just I'm hoping you're right. I'm

1003
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: just it's it's a wait and see for me. I

1004
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't seen it. Listen, I'm a big

1005
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: believer in some of the pieces they put together on

1006
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: that side of the ball, and starting with d J Chark,

1007
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: I love him, and I love the right tackle and

1008
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: I think Cam the waves looked. It's awesome, all great things.

1009
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of questions too. Well, let's put it

1010
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: this way. If the offense isn't prolific enough to score

1011
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: many more points this year than it did a year ago,

1012
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: they will be drafting Trevor Lawrence, how about that? Just

1013
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: put it out there. Have you done? Your done this

1014
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: record for all the team yet? No? And I by

1015
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 1: the way, we haven't cut the team yet either. Because

1016
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: we're not cutting the team. We haven't seen enough. I

1017
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: mean then the scrimmage yet. Yeah, you're three weeks. You

1018
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 1: know what? I love? Tony loves cutting the team. Hates it.

1019
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: He loves when we start talking mock drafts in November

1020
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: when they're out of how to playoff contention. I mean,

1021
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 1: all those things, they just get right under your skin.

1022
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: You hate that? Yeah, I don't love it, that's for sure.

1023
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1025
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Speaker 1: If you're one of those guys that think you know

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Speaker 1: everything and all that other stuff, you're you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: yourself in trouble, you know. You know, it might look

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Speaker 1: great in the press and everything. Oh there's this guy,

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Speaker 1: eat confident, look at him, you know, but you know

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm confident in what I do, but I'm always

1086
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: looking to get better. And those guys, um, you know,

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00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: I've had help from everyone I rely on. You know,

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Speaker 1: whether it's uh, you know, whether it's Keenan, whether it's Ron,

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Speaker 1: whether it's you know, Ron Middleton, Keenan McCardell, whether it's

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Speaker 1: you know Terry Robiski, who has has probably has the

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Speaker 1: most experience out of everyone on us, you know. Um,

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Speaker 1: but I'll also rely on some of the younger guys

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Speaker 1: you know, and what they see. I like to get

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Speaker 1: people's opinions, um. And the only thing I can't stand.

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Speaker 1: I can't stand people that that they're gonna tell me

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Speaker 1: what I want to what I want to hear. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I want people to be honest.

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Speaker 1: I want people to be upfront at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day. That's that's what's gonna give us a chance.

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Speaker 1: Head coach Doug Marone earlier today, welcome in one hour down,

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Speaker 1: one hour ago on Jaguars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli. Glad you're along with us. Your

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Speaker 1: social questions coming up? Um. The question of Doug there,

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Speaker 1: guys was about I'm really about Macadoo, who will hear

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Speaker 1: from a little bit later in the show and Jay

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01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: Gruden their relationship and what do those guys bring to

1107
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: the staff working together, and then what can coaches learn?

1108
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: He has a lot of experience on the staff. I

1109
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Speaker 1: think there's a point there, and Doug Barone is open

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Speaker 1: to hearing different different ideas on different topics, and and

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Speaker 1: that's what that Tony, that's that's huge. Obviously you don't

1112
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: know everything, even if you're the head coach. No, I

1113
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: mean I think it's it's the smart thing to do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have a staff for a reason. Guys

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01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: have different respectives, have been at different places, They've seen

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Speaker 1: it be done in different ways that have led to success.

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Speaker 1: So you're always evolved, You're always trying to get better.

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Speaker 1: I mean the saying that was true when I played,

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Speaker 1: you're either getting better or you're getting worse. You're never

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Speaker 1: saying the same applies the coaches and players of life.

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Speaker 1: And so I think Doug has the right mentality and

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01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: he's always trying to get better and and learn and

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Speaker 1: how can you do it better? I love what a

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Speaker 1: coach said as he doesn't want us, yes, man, he

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Speaker 1: wants to be challenged. And and you've heard stories, and Tony,

1126
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Speaker 1: you know you've known guys and coaches and personnel people

1127
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Speaker 1: who don't want to be challenged. I know a scout

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Speaker 1: that got whacked if by a team because he challenged

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Speaker 1: the general manager in a meeting and he didn't want

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Speaker 1: to hear it. And you can't have that. I mean,

1131
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Speaker 1: you don't know everything. And as a coach, you should

1132
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: open your mind. And as a personnel guy, you should

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01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: open your mind. I want people to challenge me if

1134
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Speaker 1: I like a player. Uh As I say, I'm a

1135
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: scout or a personnel director and I like a player,

1136
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: I want my scouts to tell me why I should

1137
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: go back and watch him again. It's the same thing

1138
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Speaker 1: with coaching. If I'm a coach and I have an

1139
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Speaker 1: offensive player system that I like, I might want my coordinator,

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Speaker 1: my receiver, coach to come over to me and say, hey,

1141
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Speaker 1: why don't we do this and this will work? We

1142
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: should try this. And I think a coach with an

1143
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: open mind is a good thing. A coach with a

1144
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: closed mind is a dangerous thing. Yeah, I mean I

1145
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: think that could go through any anything in life. For me.

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Speaker 1: If you if you have the did you know everything,

1147
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: You're in trouble. It's one of the reasons I worry

1148
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,479
Speaker 1: about you be because you think you know everything, and

1149
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: it's a big it's a big flaw character flaw that

1150
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: you have that it concerns me. I mean, you should

1151
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: probably listen to the things you say about other people

1152
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: and try to limit yourself. No, Tony, what I was

1153
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Speaker 1: gonna say is, I think one thing that we've done

1154
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: on this show is you've evolved. When we first started,

1155
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: you were hardheaded, you yell at fans, you'd yell at me,

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Speaker 1: And now we've toned you down a little bit, so

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Speaker 1: you've opened your mind. You're not a closed minded lug

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01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: like you used to be. I don't think I ever yelled.

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01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever yelled at fans. I think

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01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: that's a little bit. Yes you have, Yes you did,

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Speaker 1: Yes you did. Revisionist history, send out, send out a

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Speaker 1: Twitter polls as Tony VASSELLI yelled at fans on this show,

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Speaker 1: yes or no. Never, maybe like a passionate conversation, but

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Speaker 1: never yelled. Yeah, um yeah he yelled. Hey. Back to

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01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: the coaching dynamic here, Pete. Obviously Jay Gruden former head

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Speaker 1: coach in Washington in that division, Ben McAdoo, is that

1167
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: so not too for the New York Football Giants. They're

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01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: both now on staff here, Um, what about that relationship?

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Speaker 1: And and obviously the past is the past, and they're

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Speaker 1: here to get this Jaguars team better. But it's gotta

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Speaker 1: be an interesting dynamic in that room. Well, it's great

1172
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: to have guys who've experienced it from the top, and

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01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: and granted neither one of them had great success experiencing

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Speaker 1: it from the top, but maybe sometimes you're just a

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Speaker 1: position coach or you're just an offensive coordinator. That's okay,

1176
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: that's fine. And Jake Gruden was a good offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: before he was a head coach, and I think that's

1178
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Speaker 1: a good thing for Gardner Minshew. It's a good thing

1179
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: for Doug Baronne. He has a guy or guys on

1180
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: his staff that who have been head coaches, and he

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01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: can lead on them a little bit in certain situations.

1182
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: I like the dynamic of the staff. I'm curious to

1183
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: see Minshew in the offense when the thing gets cranked up.

1184
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: I think it fits what he does getting the ball out,

1185
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: but again, we don't know until you actually play real games.

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01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: I think it's a good staff. I'm a big believer

1187
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: in Keenam Cardell. I've known him for a long time.

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01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go big places in this league

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01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: as a coach. I think he's gonna be a coordinator

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01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: soon enough, and then and then maybe a head coach.

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01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: So I like the staff, particularly on offense, and I

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01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: think defensively they have some good coaches. So it's a

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Speaker 1: good staff. Now the question becomes, if you don't win,

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01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: what happens to that staff? They're probably all gonna be

1195
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: looking for jobs. That's the scary thing now though they

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01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: have a chance to show that they belong and should

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01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: stay longer. What do I wonder what that you bring?

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Speaker 1: I mean, now I'm gonna do something that Pete does

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Speaker 1: that I hate, like jump like eight steps ahead of

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01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: what we should be talking about. But you brought it up.

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Speaker 1: How many games do they need to win? I mean,

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01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: because that's a I mean there's so many like variables

1203
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: out there and so many you know, influences that this

1204
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: staff had nothing to do with them. You know, COVID

1205
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: and no off season and everything by you know video,

1206
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: and it makes it really hard in a young team.

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Speaker 1: On top of it, what do they have to do?

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01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: What success? What do you think success? You know, forget

1209
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: about whether they get fired or not. I don't want

1210
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: to talk about that. What is what would be successful

1211
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: in your mind for this team this year? I'm not

1212
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: jumping ahead. I want to stay right here and focus

1213
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 1: on the now. I never jump ahead, I never pushed forward.

1214
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: Stay right here, but elly, I'm not gonna do it.

1215
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: I just want to stay right here and talk about

1216
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: the now, not looking to the future. Okay, that's you,

1217
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: that's your that's you. By the way, No, what success? Five? Five,

1218
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: five would be success? In my mind? Six five would

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01:06:55,120 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: be outstanding. Six six will be six wins. So you're

1220
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: saying five would be success. That's one lesson. They won

1221
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: last year, pete six. You're telling me that it's six. Well,

1222
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: a six with this team at six, I said it

1223
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: last year, the rebuilding, reloading. So SI, what do you

1224
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: think successful? Hold on, I'm not I'll tell you in

1225
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Speaker 1: the second I'm asking you. You're telling the fans of

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars were listening to our our show and

1227
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: expect expertise analysis from you that if they win six games,

1228
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: the fan base should be happy and said we're on

1229
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: the right track as a football organization. That's not what

1230
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm saying that if they win six games,

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01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: if they win, you, I think they're gonna push. They're

1232
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Speaker 1: gonna push to win six games. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That's if the fans out there are listening my expertise,

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01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 1: this team is well, that's what I'm telling you. I'm

1235
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: not ask you that. I'm saying, what would it be

1236
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: deemed as successful for this coaching staff at the end

1237
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: of the year. If they did this, this, and this,

1238
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: that's successful, Like they did a good job and they

1239
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: should have their jobs back in the following year. Like

1240
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: what success they have to if they keep their jobs,

1241
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to win eight or nine games. So

1242
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: you're saying success is eight or nine games in because

1243
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: a second ago, that's keeping your job success. I'm trying

1244
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: to figure out what it is. No, eight or nine

1245
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: is unlike success to me. Pete, Well, it sounds like

1246
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,560
Speaker 1: success with what they have there. That's that would be

1247
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: a successful season. You know what real success would be

1248
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: going over in sixteen and getting Trevor Lawrence. That's real success.

1249
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: I mean, JP, I don't even know where to go

1250
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: with this because I've heard like fifteen different numbers thrown

1251
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: out there, um, and so I'm a little bit confused

1252
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 1: right now. I think six, he's an eight, he's a

1253
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: zero zero with the roster that they have success is

1254
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: five or six wins for the coaching staff to stay

1255
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: successes eight or nine wins, Like you're you're moving the

1256
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: ball over not over the chess board right now. So

1257
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: let me let me be very clear to our fans

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Speaker 1: this is a successful year for Don Morone and his

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Speaker 1: and they won six last year. They need to win

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Speaker 1: eight games this year to say, you know what, we're

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Speaker 1: to at least eight games. I think that would be success.

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Speaker 1: We agree, we agree. What do you think would be

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Speaker 1: a successful season? That's what I just said. So you

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Speaker 1: think they don't get eight wins, that's not a successful season.

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Speaker 1: That that again, if they don't get eight wins, it's

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Speaker 1: not a successful seasons. What's your saying to forget Doug

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Speaker 1: Barrowne and his coaches to I'm talking about Tony Vaselli.

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Speaker 1: What is a successful season for the Jacksonville Jaguars as

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Speaker 1: as an organization. Yes, you have to. You have to

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Speaker 1: show progress. And I think if you win six games

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Speaker 1: or less, you're not showing progress. Now. The only caveat

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Speaker 1: to that that I'll put out there is if you

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Speaker 1: if you win five games, but Gardner Minshew and you

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Speaker 1: just have your defense because it's decimated by injuries and

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Speaker 1: everything else and opting out and you can't stop anyone

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Speaker 1: to save your life. But you start to see an

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Speaker 1: offense that is productive and Gardner Minshew's, you know, four

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Speaker 1: thousand yards and thirty touchdowns and twelve picks. That success

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Speaker 1: even if you win five or six games. So you

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Speaker 1: have to see progress. All I was saying. That's why

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's not just wins and losses. So

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Speaker 1: if you're asking me wins and losses, it is eight wins,

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Speaker 1: So you're showing improvement there. Then I would say improvement

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Speaker 1: from the young quarterback and offensively that you were showing

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Speaker 1: that you can score points in your productive unit, which

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Speaker 1: they were not last year. That would also be a

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Speaker 1: metric of success for me looking at it. And so

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Speaker 1: that you know, wins obviously, this is what you're all

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Speaker 1: And then secondly, it's the production and improvement of your

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Speaker 1: quarterback in your offense um from a from what you

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Speaker 1: do on the field. Those are the two things I

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Speaker 1: think I would be looking at. Let's let's just say this.

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Speaker 1: I'll throw this out there, Gardner Minshew throws forred yards,

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Speaker 1: thirty four touchdown passes, thirteen interceptions. The offense is explosive

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Speaker 1: and they still go for a twelve successful season or not. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say yes, because that means you just had

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Speaker 1: the worst defense. Now, I think it would be changes.

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Speaker 1: There could be changes with the coaches staff, but with

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Speaker 1: Would so I mean yeah, I mean that we're going

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Speaker 1: down the path that people losing jobs and not losing that.

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Speaker 1: That was my point of this conversation. At the point

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Speaker 1: was what would be successful this year? And I think

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Speaker 1: the metric that everyone's measured by in the NFL wins

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Speaker 1: and losses, and so you have to start there. And

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Speaker 1: so if it's not better than last year, and then

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Speaker 1: it's not successful we agree, Tony, we agree for those guys, Yes,

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Speaker 1: we do. Success for the coach you you don't understand me.

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Speaker 1: For success for the coaching staff, it's eight or nine.

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Speaker 1: My uh, the definition of success is five or six

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Speaker 1: because I don't think they're very good. I think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be feisting, staying games and maybe score some points.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think they're gonna win a lot of games.

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Speaker 1: So if I think they're gonna win three or four games,

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Speaker 1: if they get the six, in my mind, that success.

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Speaker 1: But not as an organization. That's not like your best argument. No,

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Speaker 1: as an organization they got I'm with you, they have

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Speaker 1: to show progress, like I like, you actually would have

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Speaker 1: a decent argument if you to start and saying, you

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, I don't consider that success. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you go to a season like that, but at

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Speaker 1: different there's different definitions of success. No, the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: success is different than my determination and what's successful, and

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Speaker 1: it should be different than what your determination is to

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Speaker 1: be successful. You different, like you just said if you're

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Speaker 1: talking about yes, you do. You just said it. If

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Speaker 1: they if they had an explosive offense and Minshooth just

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Speaker 1: and eleven or six and ten, you would say that

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Speaker 1: was a success correct over offensively, Yeah, because you have

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Speaker 1: But is that a success? Yes or no? Success? Definition

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Speaker 1: of success yes or no? For the organization? Yes, having

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Speaker 1: A few notes of the day today and maintenance day

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Speaker 1: full work according to Doug Marron, just not on the

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Speaker 1: one of the offensive coordinator, one is the quarterbacks coach,

1465
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. And so it'll be interesting to

1466
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 1: see what happens this This could be the type of

1467
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 1: year if Minshew has a year like Tony's talking about,

1468
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 1: possibly haven't. If he has that kind of year, that

1469
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: can only enhance mcadoo's credibility around the league. Maybe he

1470
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: gets an offensive coordinator job, and then who knows. Uh So.

1471
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 1: But again I said something earlier that I still believe

1472
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 1: sometimes guys are just position coaches or coordinators. Maybe Ben

1473
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,839
Speaker 1: mcadoo's just a good position coach or just an offensive coordinator.

1474
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: Not everybody's a head coach, Not everybody's cut out to

1475
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: be a head coach. Well, I mean, I agree with you,

1476
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: But you know the interesting thing about Ben McAdoo. If

1477
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, his first year the Giants, he won

1478
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 1: eleven games. Did you take the team to the playoffs

1479
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: in sixteen when he was that coach? Beat Yeah? But

1480
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 1: then you go off a cliff Tony. Listen all I'm saying,

1481
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: it's interesting. He was there for two years, if I'm

1482
01:21:53,880 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 1: not mistaken, won eleven games year one, and he had

1483
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: off a cliff, Yes, and they had the second worst

1484
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 1: record in the NFL. Um it was. It's just interesting

1485
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: how quickly that disintegrated underneath him in New York after

1486
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: having a good year. Unless I'm getting my years wrong,

1487
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure. Yeah. And he was also the

1488
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for kauf On that you know, for two

1489
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: years too. I mean, look, the guy's the guy Green Bay.

1490
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: He's good. You know, he was involved with the quarterback

1491
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,560
Speaker 1: he was the quarterbacks coach there. He's been around good offenses.

1492
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: And he's not an old guy. And this is a

1493
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 1: young guy relatively speaking. He's forty three years old. I mean,

1494
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 1: why would he be out of coaching for two years?

1495
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 1: Who knows? Um? But again maybe he just you know,

1496
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 1: one of the regroup and spend time with the family

1497
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 1: like you said, this is a chance for him to

1498
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: show people that he can still do it and get

1499
01:22:56,240 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 1: another opportunity, maybe to be an offensive coordinator. Yeah, it's

1500
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 1: just interesting. You don't see a guy who wins the

1501
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 1: leven games and now he won three the next year,

1502
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 1: and so you wonder if there's more issues in the

1503
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 1: building as far as his leadership styles the head coach um,

1504
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 1: But he obviously knows how to coach from Paul. He's

1505
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 1: had success and I think you know he's a good

1506
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: asset and a good good guy to having the building

1507
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 1: conduct borrow, wasn't it too? Was No? Three? Now I'm

1508
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: looking at it beat right. Well, then they used to

1509
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 1: call him macadone, didn't they. Yeah, that's you're you're you're

1510
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 1: the national guy. You could tell us what they set

1511
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: up in New York. We're not sure. Let's just stay

1512
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: on the quarterback. You know, we've we've talked to Ben Show.

1513
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:50,440
Speaker 1: We know he's the starting quarterback here. But today especially

1514
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: we got to see the rest of them, Glenn and

1515
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:58,799
Speaker 1: Dobbs luting with only ones on the field taking reps today, Tony,

1516
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: from the tape that you've seen, what is the quarterback room?

1517
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: Opening day? I would only keep I mean I would

1518
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: keep too, I would keep Glennon and Minshew, and I

1519
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: put Luten on the practice squad because I think you

1520
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: have sixteen guys in the practice squad and they're gonna

1521
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: have some freedom, I think based on you know, this

1522
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: COVID environment of how they manage that up and down.

1523
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 1: So I put Luton as the third UM. I wouldn't

1524
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: keep him active. I put him, again, like I said,

1525
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 1: in the practic squad. And I don't think that I

1526
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 1: don't think there's a place for probably on this roster

1527
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: for Josh Dobbs. I've heard Luton's look pretty good and

1528
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: throws the ball very well. Is that true? Yeah, you

1529
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: can spin it, um, but I think he was thinking

1530
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 1: you want you saw that at Oregon State he could

1531
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: spin it. But I've heard he's looked pretty good at

1532
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:50,719
Speaker 1: times in this camp throwing the football. And that's so again,

1533
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 1: it's not like he's gonna be exposed playing in a

1534
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 1: preseason game. So if he didn't get drafted until he

1535
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,600
Speaker 1: got drafted, nobody, nobody's gonna know what he's doing on

1536
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 1: the practice field. So Tony is correct, you probably put

1537
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: him on the practice squad and then if something happens,

1538
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 1: you activate him easier to do. Yeah, so I think

1539
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: that's what it looks like. Alright, guys, let's get a

1540
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: couple of social questions in Tony your face. Here we

1541
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 1: go week, got a couple, got a couple this week? Um,

1542
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:23,879
Speaker 1: you know we need we need more of a response

1543
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 1: is what we need to be quite honest with you.

1544
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 1: You know what we need. We need the yelling bassellly.

1545
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: We need yelling BASSELLI back because he used to get

1546
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: more questions when he was a yeller and they'd irritate him.

1547
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 1: So let next week, let's say, if you can send

1548
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: in a question that irritates Tony, he's gonna yell like

1549
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,799
Speaker 1: old times and get get us back into the spirit

1550
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 1: of things. Well, now what but I will make sure

1551
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: I tweeted out the question next week on Monday morning

1552
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 1: like I did last year. And that's you know, obviously

1553
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: your followers are to usday Army, and I'll make sure

1554
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 1: I send out the question. Think it's a good question

1555
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 1: because Pete don't work so well last week. Let me

1556
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: tell you I didn't say I didn't send anything last

1557
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 1: week last number one. I did, and I mean JP did,

1558
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: and you retweeted it. So what's the difference of you

1559
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,480
Speaker 1: sending it out? Because when I said, I think your followers,

1560
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 1: Pete are more interactive than Tony's followers, So that makes sense,

1561
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, and it worked out on That's why. That's

1562
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: why he's got to start yelling again, because then he'll

1563
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: get more interactive with the followers. You get more interaction,

1564
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 1: he'll be much better. So start yelling next week or tonight.

1565
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 1: If somebody irritates it, It's like, let's go back to

1566
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: where we used to be used to screaming. Yell at

1567
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 1: the fans. You hear it. Take me, Pete, I start

1568
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 1: screaming at you. That makes you feel better? Okay, we'll

1569
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: take it. We gotta get something, MATI you what do

1570
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 1: you mean? Out? And I'm carrying the show you with

1571
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 1: your stupid takes. It don't even make sense. Bounce it

1572
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: all over the place like you. You know, who knows

1573
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 1: what you've been doing. I want argument as usual, but

1574
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 1: that's a whole another story. Social question number one gentleman

1575
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 1: at stew underscool winners as what side of the ball

1576
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: do you think is strongest for THISAGS team as of today?

1577
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 1: And will that be true by the end of the season. No,

1578
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 1: I think defense starts. It looks better early in camp,

1579
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: and I think you know, probably for the most part,

1580
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: you watch the eleven on eleven UH drills, you know

1581
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 1: probably lean slightly to the defense. But I think the

1582
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: offense will be the better unit throughout the year. I mean,

1583
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: I think you know they're gonna have to carry. I

1584
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 1: don't think this is a team that can win with defense.

1585
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're gonna be terrible. I think they

1586
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 1: probably end u the middle of the road somewhere. I

1587
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 1: don't think it will be the side of the ball,

1588
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: which we've been counting on for years based on the

1589
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: seventeen season, that really has to step up. I think offensively, um,

1590
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 1: there'll be a better unit, and I think they're gonna

1591
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: have to be if they want to win football games.

1592
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think it's all offense. I think

1593
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 1: the offense will be better. Here's a question, though, Let's

1594
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 1: just say the guys didn't opt out and the guys

1595
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 1: didn't get hurt. How much better would they have been?

1596
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 1: Isn't that a legitimate question. I mean, alt, I think

1597
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 1: and Gunter are there. Yeah, I think they helped. They're

1598
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 1: better against the run, right, you would think that, But

1599
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 1: how much better are they? They're still there's still gonna

1600
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 1: be a struggling defense, at least I think so. Well,

1601
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, those big bodies make a difference.

1602
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 1: Pet in the run game. I think that. I mean,

1603
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: what is a guy who's proving he can play the run.

1604
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 1: He's a big body gunter. I think had a chance

1605
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 1: to really Uh, if you look at what he did

1606
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 1: in Arizona as a young player, Um, he was not

1607
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,560
Speaker 1: a name a bunch of people knew, or it's not

1608
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: highly up. But I think he was an up and

1609
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: coming guy that was going in the right direction. So

1610
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: I do think the depth would have help at the

1611
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 1: very least. I'm not saying it would have made him,

1612
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, a top five defense. But I worry about

1613
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 1: them stopping the run this year. I mean they couldn't

1614
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: last year. Um, and I worry about it this year. Well,

1615
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, it makes sense to worry about it because

1616
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a problem. But again, how much better

1617
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,560
Speaker 1: would it have been without Woods and got there? That

1618
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: you'd say it would have been better, but how much better? Okay,

1619
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 1: you want me to give the yard per carry Okay,

1620
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna give up four point three yards

1621
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: per carrying. I think they'd give him three nine those

1622
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: two were there? How about that? Does that help you?

1623
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 1: What about Snacks Harrison? What about him? I mean, he's

1624
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 1: out there, But what about he didn't want to play

1625
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 1: in Detroit? He didn't retire basically or get cut. No,

1626
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 1: he's out there. They let him go. He wants to play.

1627
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean, would he be somebody could bring in and

1628
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 1: help the run game? I think he could. I mean,

1629
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: once upon a time you can argue that he was

1630
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 1: one of the best interior defensive linem to stop in

1631
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: the run. And he's not. I mean, he's not an

1632
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 1: old I don't think he's an old He's not an

1633
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 1: old guy anymore or anything either. What is he thirty one?

1634
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 1: He could still be going there and help. But I

1635
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 1: don't know what kind of shape he's in. I don't

1636
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 1: know what the issue was in Detroit where they never

1637
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 1: been in great shape. No, I mean, is he a

1638
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: bad locker room guy? Was he cause him trouble? I mean,

1639
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean I have no idea. I mean, why it's

1640
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,640
Speaker 1: not only Detroit with his great team, why they let

1641
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 1: him go? I mean, there's always a reason, guys get

1642
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 1: let go to Pete. You know this, I mean, and

1643
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure Dave calledwell and Doug and that

1644
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 1: group have done their homework and know what's out there,

1645
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 1: and they investigate it. We haven't, so I'm not going

1646
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: to speculate what the reason was, but there's um based

1647
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 1: on the defensive line depth right now. My guess is

1648
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 1: they've looked at it and made the determination at this

1649
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 1: time he doesn't help him as a player. As a

1650
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: player thirty one years old, he would help him. Now,

1651
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:48,600
Speaker 1: you're right, we don't know if he's a problem in

1652
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 1: the locker room. I hadn't heard that though, but again

1653
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 1: I'm not and he and he's in shape, he could

1654
01:30:54,640 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 1: help them. Let's get one more social question, and this

1655
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 1: is from Jay McMahon. Underscore, what is this team ceiling

1656
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: in terms of wins? Well, let me I'll start with us.

1657
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 1: Every team's ceiling is sixteen wins. In the right games,

1658
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 1: they could win sixteen, right, thank you? We just I

1659
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 1: guess we touched on this earlier. But what do you

1660
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: think Pete five or six? That's that's what I think.

1661
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 1: If if they get more than that, kudos to the

1662
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 1: coach and staff and Gardner Minshire will be their long

1663
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:32,640
Speaker 1: term quarterback. That that's exactly what I think because I

1664
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 1: don't see it again. I think they're gonna be tough

1665
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 1: in some games. I just don't think they're gonna win

1666
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 1: a lot of games. But if they get to eight wins,

1667
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew will have established himself as the guy for

1668
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 1: the long term. That's how well Hill have to play

1669
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 1: to get the eight names. So is it eight or six?

1670
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Speaker 1: Just give me one number. I just want one, like

1671
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Speaker 1: five numbers. I think they're winning six, five or six

1672
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Speaker 1: that's okay, that's two or six from one number? What number? Five? Okay? Five? Okay? Um?

1673
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Speaker 1: I think their ceiling is ten games? Is their ceiling? Wow?

1674
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:17,640
Speaker 1: I mean the ceiling. I mean that's I mean he

1675
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 1: goes away. Gardner plays great, you know, Josh Allen is

1676
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Speaker 1: you know defensive m v P C. J Henderson is

1677
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Speaker 1: a lockdown corner that you drafted him to be. Miles

1678
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Speaker 1: Jack makes the transition to will Leonard Fordet is running

1679
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Speaker 1: like in you know, playing like it's his last uh

1680
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Speaker 1: in the last year of his contract. Camerabms doing the

1681
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, I think ten wins. I mean that's

1682
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew takes a step up over where he was

1683
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 1: last year, and it is proven to be your franchise quarterback.

1684
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Speaker 1: D J. Charcott wasn't a one year hit wonder, which

1685
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be, and he shows that

1686
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 1: he could be a true number one. I mean those

1687
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 1: things happen. Yeah, I think they can win ten games,

1688
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: maybe eleven, but I'll say ten is my ceiling. Getta

1689
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 1: lock it. I didn't say that's what they're gonna win.

1690
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: I said it's the ceiling. How do you think they're

1691
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 1: gonna win? It is the first let's get that out there.

1692
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 1: On Twitter, Tony Vassilly says Jaguars to win eleven games.

1693
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 1: I said my ceilings. Now I didn't know. I think

1694
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 1: it's the question is what's their ceiling? Like, what's the

1695
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 1: most wins you can see them happen? And how many?

1696
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 1: How many do you think they're going to win? How

1697
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 1: many you think they're going I think it's right there

1698
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 1: in the middle, seven eight somewhere in there. Then you're

1699
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Speaker 1: stuffing around wild card one one one number not seven

1700
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 1: or right? What's your one number? By hey? Hey, okay?

1701
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 1: And how many do you think they're going to win?

1702
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: So you guys dance around that question. How do I do?

1703
01:33:54,080 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 1: It's around it? How many do you think? How many

1704
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 1: do you think that if I if I went through

1705
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 1: the schedule that a game by game analysis, I think

1706
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna win eleven. Yeah, that thing we still have

1707
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Speaker 1: to do as well. We got Pete, we got to

1708
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: cut the game and we have to go. Please put

1709
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Speaker 1: that out nationally. If nobody will hire you wherever to

1710
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Speaker 1: do a Westwood One game, ton of it's tongue of cheek.

1711
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 1: I said the ceiling was ten, and they're like, they're

1712
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 1: gonna win eleven? What do I think? Um, it was

1713
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 1: a joke. It was a joke. Um, I think they're

1714
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: gonna win. I think they win seven games. Okay, I

1715
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 1: think they went seven. We'll go around the but is

1716
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:55,560
Speaker 1: that successful? That's a big question. What about around the

1717
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Speaker 1: NFC South. I'll have a book report also, we'll go

1718
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Speaker 1: all kind of the young guys are kind of just

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Speaker 1: their listeners right now. You know, they're trying to soak

1776
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Speaker 1: in anything that you know. The other guys can teach them,

1777
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 1: can teach them. Coaches can teach him. So I haven't

1778
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: really heard too much yet. From the from the corner

1779
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 1: room and their receivers. I feel like they're the same too.

1780
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody's just kind of like then, just

1781
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Speaker 1: trying to do their job, not too much, you know, talking.

1782
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:02,600
Speaker 1: But as the year goes on and will probably we

1783
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Speaker 1: get into games, it'll it'll come out game day. That's

1784
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Speaker 1: Trey Herndon, Jaguar's corner back and its third season Welcome

1785
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Speaker 1: Back Jaguars Happy Hour, J P. Shatrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli,

1786
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Speaker 1: and I would say it's a little different feel in

1787
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 1: that cornerback room from the past couple of years around here.

1788
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 1: There's no Jalen Ramsey, there's no a J boy A,

1789
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: and uh, it's not loud in that room as of yet.

1790
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:32,639
Speaker 1: You heard Trey there say maybe when when the lights

1791
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 1: come on, that will change a little bit. But just

1792
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 1: walking through the door, the environment is much different, Pete

1793
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 1: than it has been in the past around here at cornerback. Well, yeah,

1794
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 1: I mean it used to be a position of strength

1795
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 1: and now it's a position of hope. I mean, you

1796
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:50,679
Speaker 1: hope Henderson can turn into being a number one corner

1797
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 1: You hope Herndon continues to get better. Uh, if they do,

1798
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 1: then then I think they have a chance to be

1799
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 1: a good group. Hernd it proved last year he could

1800
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:01,799
Speaker 1: be a nice fice the you know, number two corner,

1801
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,600
Speaker 1: and he needs to continue to get better. And I

1802
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 1: think if Henderson could become a number one corner, it

1803
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 1: can become a good group again. But you know, it's

1804
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 1: a it's a position of hope. Now whereas when you

1805
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 1: had Boy and Ramsey, um, you know, it was a

1806
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 1: position of strength. It's not that anymore. And so I

1807
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 1: think that you know, you have to expect some growing

1808
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 1: pains along the way for both those guys. Yeah, I

1809
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 1: mean they're young players. I mean that's what I mean,

1810
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 1: that's what happens to young players. I think that's where

1811
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, if you talk, wasn't it Bill Parcels And

1812
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to attribute to the wrong legendary coach

1813
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 1: coach that says it's you know, it's it's hard to

1814
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:42,560
Speaker 1: win with rookies. I mean, I mean, historically it is

1815
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 1: hard to count on and win with rookie not that

1816
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 1: it can't happen, but going into the season, you have

1817
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 1: to expect growing pain and guys to make mistakes. They're

1818
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,679
Speaker 1: learning and I don't care how good they are, especially

1819
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:56,759
Speaker 1: when they're surrounded with a lot of other good players,

1820
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean young players. Um, it's one thing if you

1821
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Speaker 1: have a rookie a position surrounded by a lot of

1822
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 1: veterans and you can cover it up. I mean, I'll

1823
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Speaker 1: give me a perfect example. In nine, we had a

1824
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 1: very good team for Nando Bryant was a rookie starting

1825
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 1: at corner for that team, but he was surrounded by

1826
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Speaker 1: Carnel Lake, Um, you know, Aaron Beasley. I mean, you

1827
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Speaker 1: had a number of veteran guys on that defense that

1828
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 1: were around him, and so it made the transition easier.

1829
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Speaker 1: You look at c. J. Henderson, He's gonna be the

1830
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:28,559
Speaker 1: opposite corner. Trey Herndon is really a second year starter,

1831
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Speaker 1: still a young guy. Now. D J. Hayden helps a lot.

1832
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Speaker 1: He's a veteran guy who's been around the block and

1833
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Speaker 1: is a very good nickel. You look at the to safeties,

1834
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Speaker 1: both young players, both full time starters last year. Um,

1835
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Speaker 1: and so that's where you start. You know, I think

1836
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be some ebbs and flows. I think c. J.

1837
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Speaker 1: Henderson's to be an outstanding player, you know, I think

1838
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 1: he has the right makeup. I think he's competitive as heck,

1839
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:52,720
Speaker 1: you have to be that at that corner position. Um,

1840
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Speaker 1: but I think it's natural. I think peach right, Um,

1841
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be natural to expect some growing pains. Alright, fellas,

1842
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Speaker 1: last week we we promised as we are all at

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1844
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Speaker 1: If you're watching on at Jaguars, I'm at home with

1845
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Speaker 1: a bookshelf and things behind me. Tony, where are you

1846
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Speaker 1: this week? Where a padded room somewhere? That's what it

1847
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Speaker 1: looks like. Another undisclosed location. C I a y undisclosed location.

1848
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Speaker 1: Last week, you guys. The point is you guys. Last

1849
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Speaker 1: week I asked that I give a book report on

1850
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Speaker 1: one of these books behind me. And how do you

1851
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Speaker 1: guys want to do this this week? I want to,

1852
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Speaker 1: But I think Tony's right though J p JP. I

1853
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Speaker 1: think Tony's right. If the book is on the shelf

1854
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:51,560
Speaker 1: behind you, you should have read it already. You just

1855
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 1: read it. Not necessarily true, That's not necessarily true. There

1856
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:59,559
Speaker 1: are books do you just haven't gotten to yet. All

1857
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:01,799
Speaker 1: right around, go to the second level of your bookshelf.

1858
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you which book to pick. Okay, okay,

1859
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:08,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna go. You're gonna go to the one right

1860
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 1: in the middle. It's green with big white lettering. Yep,

1861
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 1: that one right there. It's probably a was eight football

1862
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 1: great writing about the national sport right up Pete Prisco's alley.

1863
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 1: It's a number of different articles over the years. That's

1864
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 1: not that's like little bits and Pete, that's not a book.

1865
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:34,240
Speaker 1: That's like all I'm telling you exactly what it is

1866
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 1: you want to report in the book or not, Pete.

1867
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 1: It's short stories or newspaper stories. Great writing about the

1868
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:43,760
Speaker 1: support of football over the years, newspaper articles. You read

1869
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 1: the cover and let cale you just spit off your mouth,

1870
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 1: your chin. That's that's a that's a terrible that's not

1871
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 1: a that's like a put together book of all stories.

1872
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 1: That's not a book that she forget that one. That's

1873
01:43:59,920 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 1: a cafard. Just grab one, Just grab the one to

1874
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:07,759
Speaker 1: the far right, no matter what it is. Second shelf

1875
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Speaker 1: righte that shelf far right, whatever that is, pull it out.

1876
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Speaker 1: Baseball in Birmingham. It's a photo book in fact, mainly

1877
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Speaker 1: one book on there that he can read. Well, JP,

1878
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Speaker 1: you put one of all short stories and articles, and

1879
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 1: one's a picture book. Do you have a book on

1880
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Speaker 1: there that you actually can read from? Here's one I

1881
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Speaker 1: got one here, This is one I got in college.

1882
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Speaker 1: It's by Red Barber. It's called The Broadcasters, a great

1883
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Speaker 1: baseball broadcaster of the Red's most notably the Dodgers, and

1884
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1885
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Speaker 1: first two broadcasters inducted in Baseball's Hall of Fame and

1886
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Speaker 1: seventy eight. And it goes through his career um starting

1887
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Speaker 1: at the University of Florida and then getting to the

1888
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 1: big leagues in Cincinnati, move being up to the Dodgers.

1889
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:05,559
Speaker 1: He has some great articles, are has some great chapters

1890
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1891
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:11,360
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1892
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1893
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1894
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Speaker 1: just an epic World Series and forty seven and then

1895
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1896
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1897
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Speaker 1: Great book about his career, and it goes into a

1898
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Speaker 1: lot of the detail of broadcasting and the xes and os,

1899
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Speaker 1: the Nuts and Bolts of Baseball Broadcast. Yes, you could

1900
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Speaker 1: be making that up because I never read the book

1901
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Speaker 1: and I don't even know who you're talking about. UM,

1902
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Speaker 1: tell me, what are you asking me to do that?

1903
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Speaker 1: I just gave you a book. You I trust you.

1904
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Speaker 1: My question is this, and then we can end this

1905
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 1: terrible idea of a segment that I came up with. Um,

1906
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 1: what is the one what's the number one takeaway from

1907
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:01,640
Speaker 1: that book that you learned reading about Red Barber? I

1908
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:07,680
Speaker 1: think his name was, Yeah, was his name Tony? Um?

1909
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:10,479
Speaker 1: You know when I first got the book was in college.

1910
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Speaker 1: So you're trying to learn how to do number one takeaway?

1911
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't mean just it's very simple. So like, what's like,

1912
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 1: you know what? I read this book and I learned

1913
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 1: this about being a broadcast. I learned the preparation it takes.

1914
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 1: You can't just show up in the in the box,

1915
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 1: you know. It's the other question is is there anything

1916
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 1: on that shelf that's not a sports book. I've got

1917
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 1: World War two on the air, which is um, okay again,

1918
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 1: it's a radio report, broadcasting, it's a broadcasting book, radio book.

1919
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 1: They're all broadcast radio or sports. So basically and we

1920
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 1: met Pete. You live in a cocoon. Expand your host,

1921
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 1: Expand your risings. We're gonna end this segment. That's a

1922
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 1: terrible idea of a segment, Tony. I must say one

1923
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 1: was a picture book, one was a short story book,

1924
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,599
Speaker 1: and the other one with Red Barber. If we had

1925
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 1: coloring books, Tony would be interested. Um, did you have

1926
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 1: any idea that that was? Yeah, yeah, of course. I

1927
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 1: might have been alive when he was calling games. Probably

1928
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 1: were ac south around in the league when we come back.

1929
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:42,760
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Speaker 1: j P, Shadrick Priscoe, Tony Boselli. Good to hear from

1992
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1993
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1994
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Speaker 1: Can't waste to hear what you're going to say? What? No,

1995
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1996
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Speaker 1: speak Um. One of the disappoints from here, amongst many

1997
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Speaker 1: in this COVID pandemic situation we have, is not getting

1998
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1999
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2000
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2001
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 1: not you know, that's not happening. And so it's gonna

2002
01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 1: it's almost gonna be like this whole year. There's gonna

2003
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2004
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2005
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Speaker 1: team doing stuff and not all you know, kind of

2006
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Speaker 1: remotely like we are right now. We're got a lot

2007
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Speaker 1: of guys get to know because this is this whole

2008
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Speaker 1: rookie class. I mean JP, I mean you haven't even

2009
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Speaker 1: been around him. I mean nobody has out side of

2010
01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 1: the coast. No occasional conference, that's about it. What about games?

2011
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 1: Are you gonna be doing games from the studio? I

2012
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Speaker 1: think we're still discussing that JP. JP mightn't have the

2013
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Speaker 1: latest there. We're still discussing how we're gonna be doing

2014
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 1: it and everything else. So that's all in flux as

2015
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:59,160
Speaker 1: we try to figure out how both for the Jaguars

2016
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 1: and also for me waiting for Westwood One. Kind of

2017
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 1: how we're gonna handle that. I don't think the final

2018
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 1: decision has been made, um, And so yeah, it's gonna

2019
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:07,760
Speaker 1: be a whole other things that we're gonna have to

2020
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Speaker 1: deal with. It's just weird. It's weird. It's I mean,

2021
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 1: like i'd be out for thirty days now and I'm nowhere.

2022
01:53:14,200 --> 01:53:16,240
Speaker 1: I can't I can't go talk to guys, can't go

2023
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:18,680
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2024
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 1: say say, Okay, this guy's playing well, this guy's playing well.

2025
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 1: It's not the same. You're right, you can't get the no, guys,

2026
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:26,960
Speaker 1: it's it's it's different, there's no question about it. But look,

2027
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 1: as long as we have a season, whatever way it

2028
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2029
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 1: be happy. But it's still it's still one of the

2030
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:36,639
Speaker 1: things that I missed because I love I mean coming

2031
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Speaker 1: football for me, um and like doing when Thursday nights

2032
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Speaker 1: for Westwood One. And it's not just you know, it's

2033
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Speaker 1: not gonna be paid to play talk about football. That's nice,

2034
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:49,639
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2035
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Speaker 1: of the be being a part of the Januars organization

2036
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:55,559
Speaker 1: and doing games like that. And then also for West

2037
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2038
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2039
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2040
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Speaker 1: my experiences with them. And none of that's gonna happen

2041
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:12,120
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2042
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2043
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2044
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2045
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2046
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2047
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2048
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2049
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2050
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2051
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2052
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2053
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2054
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2055
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2056
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2057
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2058
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2059
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2060
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2061
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Speaker 1: that week where you were in the parking lot pregame

2062
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2063
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Speaker 1: that was the week before? Actually that was the week before. Yeah,

2064
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Speaker 1: there was no snow that week. Remember, Tony was just cold.

2065
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Speaker 1: It was bitter cold. That was. That was as cold

2066
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Speaker 1: as the Packers Giants playoff game for me, and then

2067
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2068
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2069
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Speaker 1: year was pretty cold too. Yeah. Let's touch on a

2070
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Speaker 1: few nuggets. Let's touch on a few nuggets around the

2071
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2074
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2075
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2076
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:10,040
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2077
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 1: leave him with twenty two million dollars for one year

2078
01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 1: of service. Pete, Well, there was a fight in practice,

2079
01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 1: he missed a couple of assignments, and and Chuck Clark

2080
01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:21,840
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2081
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2082
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Speaker 1: was more than that. It was late for meetings. He

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Speaker 1: I heard, he was missed a walk through, wasn't as

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Speaker 1: focused as he should have been, and he hasn't been

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Speaker 1: a great teammate. And and the players, the leadership counsel said, look,

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Speaker 1: we signed with Chuck, get him out of here, and

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Speaker 1: they did. I'm okay with that. By the way, you

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Speaker 1: don't see people knocking down the door to go sign him,

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Speaker 1: do you. Well. I read a report today Pete that

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Speaker 1: he missed a meeting because he said he had to

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Speaker 1: get his car washed right, and he missed a walk through.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it'll look now. The question is the question

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Speaker 1: is is you'll see it. You're you're gonna see a

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Speaker 1: he's gonna file a what's it called the grievance. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a file of grievance because um, they're gonna take

2096
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:12,360
Speaker 1: the ten million that is guaranteed, because the key phrase

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Speaker 1: in that statement you read JP as they felt like

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01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 1: it was convect detrimental, which gives the team the ability

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Speaker 1: to cut a player in waiting any guaranteed money guarantee.

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Speaker 1: Earl Thomas and his representatives will fight that. Yeah, here's

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Speaker 1: the eye of the question. He'll sign a deal. He's

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Speaker 1: not gonna get a ten million dollar year deal from

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Speaker 1: Anybody's gonna get an incentive laden deal for a year

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Speaker 1: from somebody, maybe the Cowboys. NFL commissioner Roger Gonnelle made

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Speaker 1: an appearance on the YouTube series Uncomfortable Conversations with a

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Speaker 1: Black Man, and he said that he wishes the NFL

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Speaker 1: quote had listened earlier. In quote to Cullen Kaepernick regarding

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Speaker 1: why he began kneeling in two sixteen, Pete, what do

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Speaker 1: you make of the commissioners appearance? Well, why didn't he

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Speaker 1: say that before then? Yep, yep, you have plenty of

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Speaker 1: time to say it, and now all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: he says it. Look, Karlin Kaepernick had issues, Don't get

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Speaker 1: me wrong. As a player, you know, that's part of

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Speaker 1: the reason why some teams didn't sign up. But he

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01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:13,080
Speaker 1: should have been in the league period, end of story.

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Speaker 1: Should have been a backup quarterback in the NFL at

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Speaker 1: the worst case scenario if he didn't, some teams offer

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01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 1: him a chance to be a backup and he said

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to, thinking, uh, well, I know he

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Speaker 1: turned out at Denver early after he got cut right

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01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 1: away never that was actually the year before. Remember they

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01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 1: were going to go make a move for him and

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Speaker 1: and sign him and he didn't want Yeah, and then

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01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 1: Seattle inquired about it. There is also talking how much

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Speaker 1: did he love it? I don't know. Um, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: is count is Colin Kaepernick one of the most UH

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Speaker 1: sixty top sixty four talented quarterbacks in this league? I

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Speaker 1: would say yes, without doubt, Yes, absolutely if you based it.

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Speaker 1: If you based it around just that, then I would repeat,

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Speaker 1: you should have been on a team unfortun really, Um,

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Speaker 1: A lot of things go into um and I'm not

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Speaker 1: even speaking just in the callin Kaepernick situation, but if

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Speaker 1: you look at why guys get signed and don't get signed,

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Speaker 1: like I guarantee you, Earl Thomas is probably one of

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Speaker 1: the best thirty two safeties in the NFL. And there's

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Speaker 1: a bunch of teams in one way Kaepernicks, Kaepernick wasn't

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Speaker 1: loved in his locker room. I can tell you that one.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Kaepernick did anything wrong like Earl

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Speaker 1: Thomas dies. I'm just saying there's always a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that go into whether team signs a player or not. Obviously, um,

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Speaker 1: the social injustice that Caled Kaepernick has stood for is

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Speaker 1: frent and center right now, and it's a conversation that

2143
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Speaker 1: needs to be happy. He needs to be had. Tony

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Speaker 1: was silly, Pete Frisco, I'm j P. Shadrick. No more

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Speaker 1: book reports. We'll see you next week. It's Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.