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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm.

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Speaker 2: Strong and Jack Katie. I know he Armstrong and Yetty

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Speaker 2: I read that.

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Speaker 3: Ahead of the debate, Tim Walls has been nervous that

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Speaker 3: he was going to let Kamala Harris down. Harris was like,

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Speaker 3: don't worry if Joe Biden could be replaced, so can you.

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Speaker 2: He's not a big deal.

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Speaker 4: Tim Walls is fighting off in case the nerves ahead

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Speaker 4: of his debate with Senator Jady Vanski is said to

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Speaker 4: be nervous that you might let Kamala Harris down.

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Speaker 5: And we know he did Warren Harris during the vetting process.

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Speaker 2: But he's a bad debater.

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, that might be louring expectations too much, Tim,

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Speaker 6: you want to be more like my opponent is a

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Speaker 6: slick talker, not me talk bad disappoint pretty late.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Tim Wall's uncomfortable in his own skin.

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Speaker 1: He is the bald headed Sarah Palin. He did damage

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Speaker 1: to the ticket last night. Just vibes. Man vibes. Vibes

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Speaker 1: were bad, angry and nervous.

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Speaker 5: My take is, I don't think it mattered at all.

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Speaker 5: But there is a old old thing. Maybe you've heard

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Speaker 5: this before, that the guy who's the guy who ran

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Speaker 5: Fox started Fox a Ales Roger Ales. His belief on

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Speaker 5: debates was, you don't need to have the sound up.

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Speaker 5: You can leave the sound down and tell by looking

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Speaker 5: at the TV who won, just by you can just tell.

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Speaker 2: And I would say I just because we.

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Speaker 5: Got TVs in here and they're just running clips of

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Speaker 5: the debate. And based on that measure, jd Vance looks

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Speaker 5: like the Winter. He just looks like a confident guy.

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Speaker 5: And the other guy looks kind of old. And it's

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Speaker 5: even though he's not that old. He's fifty nine, but

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Speaker 5: he looks like he's seventy five. He looks like World

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Speaker 5: War two generation for some reason. But anyway, he looks

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Speaker 5: old and.

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Speaker 1: Shaky off the right that he's had too too many

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Speaker 1: cups of coffee. And while my co host is a

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Speaker 1: lovely fellow, Jack, you're completely wrong. In a election where

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Speaker 1: people are desperate for an excuse or reason to vote

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Speaker 1: for one candidate or another because nobody's happy with it,

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Speaker 1: the one guy came off as extremely bright and self assured,

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Speaker 1: and the other guy is a near a crack up,

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Speaker 1: and I think that matters in the Swing States.

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Speaker 2: But we'll say, I is shocked if anybody remembers in

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Speaker 2: five weeks. But we will see, so.

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Speaker 1: I thought, But they don't have to remember, That's my point.

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Speaker 1: It's a feeling of all right, I think that's a

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Speaker 1: better choice for reasons. I can't even put my finger

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Speaker 1: on Trump and Vance.

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Speaker 5: So once again, the media did their thing, and it

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Speaker 5: just it was so annoying to me right off the bat. Oh,

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Speaker 5: so you're not going to fact check, but you came

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Speaker 5: up with this weird workaround where you throw in an

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Speaker 5: extra question for Vance that is a statement of something

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Speaker 5: that he has to defend, but you're not going to

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Speaker 5: fact check. Okay, that's your work around anyway. So this

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Speaker 5: was from Mark Alpern's newsletter this morning. I thought some

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Speaker 5: of you might like this. One can pretend is most

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, that's the wrong part. That's funny that I

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Speaker 5: read the wrong part. Okay, here we go. It's the

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Speaker 5: other one can pretend. One can pretend, as most of

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Speaker 5: the dumb up media does, that the performance of the

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Speaker 5: CBS News moderators was less outrageously biased than their ABC

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Speaker 5: News counterparts, but in their topic selection, tones, selective fact checking,

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Speaker 5: and time management. This was another three on one night

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Speaker 5: that brought massive dishonor onto a pair of resistance warriors

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Speaker 5: who apparently decided to forfeit any claim to treating the

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Speaker 5: two sides with anything approaching equality. A further confirmation, as

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Speaker 5: if anything were needed at this point, that the dominant

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Speaker 5: media feels its highest calling is not journalism, but to

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Speaker 5: be part of a collective effort by blue cultural institutions

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Speaker 5: to make sure Donald Trump never gets near.

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Speaker 2: The Oval office.

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Speaker 5: Again, Well said, that's a pretty strong critique from a

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Speaker 5: guy who really really goes out of his way to

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Speaker 5: be nonpartisan. But it's just because it's true. It's clearly

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Speaker 5: what has happened. The dominant media has decided this is

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Speaker 5: so important. Our role as journalists is to make sure

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump loses.

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Speaker 2: So we're all in.

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Speaker 5: This together because it's just freaking outrageous. The question choice again,

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Speaker 5: the way they handled the time, the fact, all of it.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's unbelievable that this that you don't care

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Speaker 5: more about the idea of journalism.

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Speaker 7: Than that.

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Speaker 2: I would agree, it's it's outrageous.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm it's important to talk about because it's so

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Speaker 1: important to a republic, but I'm just exhausted by it

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it was awful last night. Awful.

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Speaker 1: It was only a shade better than ABC, and not

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Speaker 1: by much either. For example, I thought that it was

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Speaker 1: most egregious, most obvious during the immigration portion of the discussion,

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Speaker 1: We'll start with the clip number fifty.

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Speaker 2: I think it explains itself.

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Speaker 4: Your campaign is pledging to carry out the largest mass

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Speaker 4: deportation plan in American history, and to use the US military.

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Speaker 2: To do so.

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Speaker 4: Could you be more specific about exactly how this will work?

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Speaker 4: For example, would you deport parents who have entered the

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Speaker 4: US illegally and separate them from any of their children

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Speaker 4: who were born on US soil.

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Speaker 7: You have two minutes, So first of all, Margaret, before

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Speaker 7: we talk about deportations, we have to stop the bleeding.

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Speaker 7: We have a historic immigration crisis because Kamala Harris started

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Speaker 7: and said that she wanted to undo all of Donald

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Speaker 7: Trump's border policies ninety four executive orders suspending deportations, decriminalize

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Speaker 7: illegal aliens, massively, increasing the asylum fraud that exists in

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Speaker 7: our system. That has opened the floodgates, and what it's

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Speaker 7: meant is that a lot of fitanol is coming into

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Speaker 7: our country. I had a mother who struggled with opioid

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Speaker 7: addiction and has gotten clean. I don't want people who

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Speaker 7: are struggling with addiction to be deprived of their second chance.

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Speaker 7: Because Kamala Harris led in fitanel into our communities at

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Speaker 7: record levels. So you've got to stop the bleeding. You've

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Speaker 7: got to re implement Donald Trump's border policies, build the wall,

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Speaker 7: reimplement deportations.

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Speaker 1: And Margaret Brennan actually then followed up repeating the incredibly

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Speaker 1: prejudicial and out of nowhere. Yeah, but what about separating

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Speaker 1: parents from their children? And Vance said, look, we're going

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Speaker 1: to start with the criminals, and then we're going to

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Speaker 1: make it harder for people who don't have any right

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Speaker 1: to be here to work, and they'll self deport There's

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Speaker 1: going to be no tearing of parents away from Where

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Speaker 1: the hell did that question come from?

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Speaker 5: Well, and immigration is a top two issue, and that

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Speaker 5: particular aspect of it is not something most people are

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Speaker 2: It's the number of people that are here illegally. What

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Speaker 2: are we going to do about it? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got to go far Afield to bring in

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Speaker 1: the whole ripping, weeping children from their parents' bosoms angle,

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Speaker 1: what the hell? And then they got into the Springfield Oha,

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Speaker 1: Iowa rare situation. Oh boy, huh, come and get your

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Speaker 1: cat while it's hot, kids. So why don't we go

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Speaker 1: ahead and lead up to it. We'll play fifty six

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Speaker 1: and fifty seven back to back.

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Speaker 7: I think Michael now Governor waltz bro brought up the

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Speaker 7: community of Springfield, and he's very worried about the things

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Speaker 7: that I've said.

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Speaker 2: In Springfield.

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Speaker 7: Look in Springfield, Ohio and in communities all across this country.

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Speaker 7: You've got schools that are overwhelmed, You've got hospitals that

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Speaker 7: are overwhelmed. You have got housing that is totally unaffordable

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Speaker 7: because we brought in millions of illegal immigrants to compete

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Speaker 2: The people that I'm most worried.

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Speaker 7: About in Springfield, Ohio are the American citizens who have

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Speaker 7: had their lives destroyed by Kamala Harris's open border. It

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Speaker 7: is a disgraced him, and I actually think I agree

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Speaker 7: with you.

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Speaker 2: I think you want to solve this problem.

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Speaker 7: But I don't think that Kamala Harris does just to clarifice.

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Speaker 5: For our viewers.

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Speaker 1: Sit here on second, Michael, I'm sorry, you know what,

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Speaker 1: and we should have played Waltz's uh floundering attempt to

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Speaker 1: of Jade Vance because it was it was a very

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Speaker 1: waltzyan uh moment last night where he it was it

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Speaker 1: was kind of Trumpian actually in that he didn't explain

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Speaker 1: what he was talking about. He just had a couple

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Speaker 1: of catchwords and references. And if you've followed this story,

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Speaker 1: But it was, it was, it was fractured and floundering,

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Speaker 1: and then jd.

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Speaker 2: Vance came back with that extremely.

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Speaker 5: Wisely did not mention the topic because he probably realized

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Speaker 5: a lot of people don't know what he's talking about,

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Speaker 5: so I'm not gonna let him know, and he didn't

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Speaker 5: make it.

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Speaker 2: Clear, so I'm just going to let that go.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he in a way that you know, for

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Speaker 1: the millionth time Trump can't do, said no, the real

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Speaker 1: issue is the impact of the people, and that he

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Speaker 2: Rooms and social services. I thought that was.

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Speaker 1: Great, But here's another egregious momentary.

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Speaker 2: This is not this is not fract checking. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: This is just a moderator jumping in with an important

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Speaker 4: To clarify for our viewers. Springfield, Ohio does have a

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Speaker 2: But thank you, senator. We have so much to get

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Speaker 2: to Margaret. I think it's important the economy. Thanks Margaret.

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Speaker 7: The rules were that you got tore in a fact check,

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Speaker 7: and since you're fact checking me, I think it's important

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Speaker 7: to say what's actually going on. So there's an application

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Speaker 7: called the CBP one app where you can go on

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Speaker 7: as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for

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Speaker 7: parole and be granted legal status at the wave of

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Speaker 7: a Kamala Harris open border Wand that is not a

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Speaker 7: person coming in applying for a green card and waiting

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Speaker 7: for ten years. Thank you, the senatoration of a legal

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Speaker 7: immigration Margaret bye.

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Speaker 4: Thank you senator for describing the legal process.

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Speaker 8: Have so much to get the senator the book since

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Speaker 8: nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, gentlemen.

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Speaker 7: We want to have map has not been on the books,

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Speaker 7: and the.

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Speaker 4: Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut.

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Speaker 4: We have so much we want to get to thank

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Speaker 4: you for explaining the legal process, Nora.

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Speaker 2: That was Margaret. That was.

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Speaker 1: Margaret Brennan jumping in to help Tim Walls for clearly obviously, and.

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Speaker 5: I like, this is being wrong. If you want to

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Speaker 5: make your spouse or coworker or whatever really angry, this

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Speaker 5: of or have been on one end of. You make

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Speaker 5: to talk about it anymore. That's a classic of the

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Speaker 5: world of arguing. And that's what Margaret Brennan did. She

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Speaker 5: jumped in with a really strong statement, misleading spin then said,

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Speaker 5: but times up.

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Speaker 2: No more. Wait a second.

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Speaker 5: You gave yourself time to add to the discussion with

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Speaker 5: something that's misleading and then set no more time.

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Speaker 1: That's not having vowed that you wouldn't do that at all.

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Speaker 5: The great argument again, you want to really you want

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm an anglophile. Brits frequently used that word to

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Speaker 5: That is something. Took my son to the orthodonist yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Hamas is ninety percent destroyed are the numbers I'm reading,

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Speaker 5: how would you pass that up?

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Speaker 2: Anyway?

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Speaker 5: This gets to an exchange that I saw on wolf

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Speaker 2: Why am I watching wolf Blitzer on CNN? Is this

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Speaker 2: I strapped to a chair I'd been abduct for you

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Speaker 2: I felt it would be impolite to say, can we

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Speaker 5: They brought up the Secretary General of the UN call

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Speaker 7: I condemned the broadening of the Middle East conflict with

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Speaker 2: This must stop.

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Speaker 1: We absolutely absolutely need a ceasefire.

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Speaker 2: I mean, sir, what's your response to him? Shame on him.

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Speaker 2: This guy is a clown.

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Speaker 10: for shooting two hundred ballistic missiles on the Jewish state.

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Speaker 10: He's condemning the What is the broadening? Have you ever

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Speaker 10: met the broadening? I've never seen a broadening walk on

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Speaker 10: the street.

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Speaker 2: He's a coward. It's time for him to quit.

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Speaker 10: The UN is a farce if the United Nations cannot

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Speaker 10: stand up and do what's necessary when one country is

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Speaker 10: attacked by another.

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Speaker 2: We did nothing to Iran, and.

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Speaker 10: For the past year they've been making our lives miserable,

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Speaker 10: not only ours, of the entire Middle East. And instead

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Speaker 10: of standing up for what's right, this coward cannot even

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Speaker 10: bring himself to condemn Iran.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's time for him to quit.

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Speaker 1: Well it's weird to hear's somebody speaking the truth right

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Speaker 1: in the modern world, and on this topic in particular,

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Speaker 1: I've gotten so used to the mealy mouthed obfiscations the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, clarity, No kidding, he's a clown. He should

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Speaker 5: step down the broadening. So the statement from the Unsecretary

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Speaker 5: General after Aram, since two hundred ballistic missiles at the

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Speaker 5: capital of Israel is.

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Speaker 2: We condemned the broadening of this conflict.

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Speaker 5: No mention of Iran probably shouldn't be shooting ballistic missiles

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Speaker 5: at the capital of another country, former capital, depending on

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Speaker 5: the capital, financial capital, depending on what you want.

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Speaker 2: To call it. But that's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, It absolutely is. If you have held

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Speaker 1: on to a shred of respect for the UN. I

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Speaker 1: certainly hope it's gone now.

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Speaker 5: That is amazing. Yeah, you're right, that's some plain talk,

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Speaker 5: but you don't hear very often.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, they don't have the luxury of being

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Speaker 1: a fat, happy superpower that's completely lost its way. I'm

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Speaker 1: reminded of something I read earlier this seth Cropsy and

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Speaker 1: Harry Hallam in the Wall Street Journal opinion section. But

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Speaker 1: they were talking about the Masad probably attacks on Hesbola

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Speaker 1: with the pagers and the walkie talkies, and then the

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Speaker 1: carefully researched, super sophisticated intelligence born missile attacks that took

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Speaker 1: out so many more has Bull officers and missile launchers

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Speaker 1: and the rest of it. Rather than support its allies

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Speaker 1: attempt to deter an enemy and return its people to

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Speaker 1: their homes in northern Israel, The US reacted with dismay.

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State Anthony BLINCLN warned against escalation and seemed

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Speaker 1: to imply that Israel's action could make the process of

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Speaker 1: reaching a Gaza ceasefire more difficult, Oh, even derail it.

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Speaker 2: Agazza sea Wow, Oh you're still talking about that. Why

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Speaker 2: don't we talk.

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Speaker 1: About the annexation of Australia or curing the Common Cold

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Speaker 1: or something else completely wildly, idiotically unattainable. I'm tired of

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Speaker 1: the old one Gazza ceasefire. I'm afraid this targeting of

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Speaker 1: the Hesbul operatives might make the Gaza seasfire more difficult. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: what color is the sky in your world, Anthony Blincoln,

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Speaker 1: Because it's a different one than the one I live in.

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Speaker 1: And that plane talking Neftali Bennett, who we just heard

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Speaker 1: on CNN lives.

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Speaker 5: In and again. I mentioned this earlier, but I thought

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Speaker 5: it was striking. I took a ton of stuff on

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Speaker 5: this topic yesterday because I I'm obsessed with the geopolitics

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Speaker 5: of all this. But I didn't see a single military

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Speaker 5: or diplomatic expert who didn't think this was going to escalate,

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Speaker 5: that thought Israel won't go really far in a direct

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Speaker 5: attack on Iran.

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Speaker 2: Not one that said I don't think they will. No,

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Speaker 2: they all think they will. That is real will.

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Speaker 1: Partly for the reasons I was ranting about, and I

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Speaker 1: think we've all had situations in our lives or seen

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Speaker 1: them geopolitically where you can take something very bad once

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Speaker 1: and you can issue thee. If that happens again, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be very very ugly. And then if somebody

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Speaker 1: makes that happen again, if you don't bring the ugly,

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Speaker 1: it will happen again and again and again. It's practically

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Speaker 1: unavoidable at this point that there'd be a broadening of

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Speaker 1: the conflict.

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Speaker 5: That's why I was so surprised that they, once again,

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Speaker 5: the Biden people went with the take the win. Take

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Speaker 5: the win, Well, that's what you told us last time

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Speaker 5: we took the win. They waited six months and then

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Speaker 5: increased their attack. So why would I not think that's

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Speaker 5: gonna happen again if I take the win.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe the Biden administration just doesn't want to talk

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Speaker 1: about the fact that freeing up those hundreds of millions

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Speaker 1: of dollars of irani and cash bought a lot of

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Speaker 1: those missiles. Oh no, no, no, that was just for

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Speaker 1: humanitarian food and medicine aid.

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Speaker 2: Lord, I'm not a child.

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Speaker 5: Here's my favorite story before we go to break that

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Speaker 5: I came across This was all a lighthearted story that

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Speaker 5: I needed after a day of lots of kid stuff

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Speaker 5: and running around and stressful day. And then you got

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Speaker 5: the debate and you got World War three, maybe breaking out.

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Speaker 5: I loved this story. In the New York Times, zoos

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Speaker 5: have occasionally attempted to pass off dogs as pandas, and

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Speaker 5: they had examples from all around the world, mostly your

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Speaker 5: totalitarian countries where you don't dare say, hey, that's no

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Speaker 5: panda over there. You end up in the gulage China

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Speaker 5: in the lead with various pictures and at various levels

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Speaker 5: of doing a good job. I mean some of them.

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Speaker 5: You know, you got a chow and you painted a

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Speaker 5: certain way. I'm looking at this picture right here. It's

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Speaker 5: not it's clearly not a panda, but it's panda ish,

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Speaker 5: and you could certainly tell your five year old kid. Oh,

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Speaker 5: look there's a panda.

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Speaker 2: From a distance, it's kind of behind the bamboo. Oh

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Speaker 2: look there it is.

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Speaker 1: There, it is.

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Speaker 5: But some of them were hilarious. I mean it was

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Speaker 5: like a beagle with a black stripe on its back.

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Speaker 5: That's not a panda. Oh my god, how funny is that?

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Speaker 2: That? That's a thing.

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Speaker 1: I love zoo's I always have since I was a

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Speaker 1: tiny little kid. We went with our daughter to a

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Speaker 1: zoo recently and and she said, I hope you don't mind,

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Speaker 1: because she's like I am, She's totally into it. I said,

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Speaker 1: you know what if I'm lucky in something, I'm old

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Speaker 1: and gray and I gotta be wheeled around, wheel me

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Speaker 1: around a zoo.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Just love looking at the beasts and reading about them.

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Speaker 1: And and now one thing they have at zoo's a

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Speaker 1: lot is they show you what level of endangered the beast.

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Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, I love reading the plaques. And that's elaborate,

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Speaker 2: doodle shape to have a maine. I can see. Lions

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Speaker 2: don't bark. I don't. I don't understand what's happening here.

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Speaker 2: Lion cubs don't have manes, but it's it's what's going

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Speaker 2: on there. We got more in the ways.

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Speaker 4: We have a lot to get to gentlemen on many topics.

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Speaker 2: We just we just went to break you. I shouldn't

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Speaker 2: say that.

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Speaker 8: So I've become friends with school shooters. Uh what that's

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Speaker 8: I've becomes It's an odd circle of friends. Odd people

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Speaker 8: are on with.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in context, it's no better. He misspoke, which you

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Speaker 5: know happens all the time.

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Speaker 1: That's the old coach. In the debate last night, he

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Speaker 1: came off as well Sarah Peralin with a bald head.

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Speaker 1: I only read this exchange. I didn't hear this one, Governor.

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Speaker 8: Well, I've enjoyed tonight's debate, and I think there was

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Speaker 8: a lot of commonality here. And I'm sympathetic to misspeaking

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Speaker 8: on things. And I think I might have with the

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Speaker 8: senator pay too maya one.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was good. Yeah, I sympathetic on misspeaking. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: me too.

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Speaker 1: Man, the civility i'd forgotten or lost, how much I'd

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Speaker 1: missed it is so lovely. They had substantive differences and

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Speaker 1: then argued vociferously and chucked a couple of grenades. But

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Speaker 1: it was gentlemanly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I've seen a couple of polls.

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Speaker 5: I saw some last night and now with a few

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Speaker 5: more hours polls where it's it's practically fifty to fifty

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Speaker 5: on people's response to who won, which is just the hole.

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Speaker 5: The needle stuck. You either like Trump or you don't.

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Speaker 5: So that's where we are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just crazy.

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Speaker 1: Some debate highlights and low lights and analysis coming up

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Speaker 1: next hour. Some exchanges were very, very interesting and I

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Speaker 1: think significant. And the utterly egregious biased moderation. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can't even call it that. It was immoderate, so

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Speaker 1: I hesitate to call it moderation, but to stay tuned

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Speaker 1: for that. If you can't stay tuned, grabbed the podcast later.

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Speaker 1: I'm strong and getting on demand. Better yet, subscribe or

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Speaker 1: follow us so you never miss an episode. The fabulous

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Speaker 1: Andrew Styles in the Free Beacon coming through once again. Hesbola,

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Speaker 1: the Lebanese terrorist organization funded by Iran, has experienced an

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Speaker 1: unprecedented turnover of senior leadership in twenty twenty four, recently

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Speaker 1: lost its longtime leader in moral compass Asan Nosrala, to

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Speaker 1: an unfortunate workplace mishap, and so they went to the

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Speaker 1: Andrew Styles is ostensibly allegedly interviewing their chief recruitment officer. Hello,

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Speaker 1: is this Sayid Mustafa? No, my name is Jaffar Faiad.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to reach the chief Recruitment office for Hezbola.

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Speaker 1: Is that you Yes? I was recently promoted. Oh congrats.

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Speaker 1: May I ask what having a Mustafa? We arranged this

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Speaker 1: interview with him, but he stopped returning our pages for

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Speaker 1: some reason.

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Speaker 2: He can't come to the phone right now. Why not?

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Speaker 1: He's buried, buried like in paperwork. No, I can assure

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Speaker 1: you at this moment. Our recruitment process is incredibly streamlined

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Speaker 1: and involves no paperwork. That's great, but I'd feel more

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Speaker 1: comfortable the Jews. I beg your pardon.

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Speaker 2: That's why said Masof, I can't talk with you today.

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Speaker 2: Ali al Salam, I'm sorry to hear that very well.

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Speaker 1: I was wondering if you could tell me a little

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Speaker 1: bit about your organization and the positions you are seeking

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Speaker 1: to fill. And then he goes into a description of Hezbola.

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Speaker 1: Can you talk a little more about what you're looking

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Speaker 1: for in a perspective Hesbola employee, First and foremost, we're

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Speaker 1: looking for people who are alive. It's something that many

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Speaker 1: of our older and most senior executives have struggled with

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Speaker 1: of late, So that alone will get you in the

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Speaker 1: door and moving up the ranks in no time. An

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Speaker 1: intense hatred of Jews is preferred, as is proficiency in

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Speaker 1: Microsoft Office programs.

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Speaker 5: But it's not a deal breaker. You have to hate

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Speaker 5: the Jews and be able to do PowerPoint.

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Speaker 1: Can you describe some of the challenges facing your organization

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Speaker 1: at the moment. We are currently facing a lot of

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Speaker 1: Jewish related challenges. Although ironically our media coverage has been

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Speaker 1: mostly positive. Brain train, so to speak, has been an issue.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, uh, let's see again. I'm sorry this is

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Speaker 2: happening to you. What can you tell me.

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Speaker 1: About the Hesbolag headquarters? What's it like to work there? Well,

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Speaker 1: our headquarters in Beirut is undergoing significant renovations at the moment,

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Speaker 1: so we're pleased to offer a flexible work from home

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Speaker 1: policy for new and existing employees. We'll do our best

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Speaker 1: to sponsor some happy hour office in the near future.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, that's enough of that.

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Speaker 1: But that's good stuff and everybody, everybody except the fat

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Speaker 1: happy heads of government of the Western Powers, can see

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Speaker 1: the truth of the situation. But like France, France is

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Speaker 1: being hand and had with Biden. No, we don't want

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Speaker 1: to Eskalai. It'd be best if we don't escalate. I

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Speaker 1: just don't get it. I understand the Biden administration being

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Speaker 1: desperate to get through the election and not have the

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Speaker 1: pooh hits the fan, because Trump is famously, for all

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Speaker 1: of his faults, a hard ass who doesn't let anybody

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Speaker 1: push the US around globally speaking.

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Speaker 2: I heard a report today and a half and Harris

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Speaker 2: is much much weaker on that score.

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Speaker 5: I heard a report today and I haven't figured out

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Speaker 5: where it came from yet, that Biden and Netanyahu aren't speaking.

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Speaker 5: You heard that, or they haven't spoken in quite a

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Speaker 5: few days, Which is kind of interesting that given what's

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Speaker 5: going on. David Sanger in the New York Times rights

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Speaker 5: that behind the scenes, the White House is advising against

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Speaker 5: direct attacks on Iran's nuclear facilities.

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Speaker 2: Why in the hell would they not do that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, what's the reasoning unless it's the election, like

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Speaker 5: you said, or it's a political thing. One thing from

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Speaker 5: David Sanger's book, The New Cold Wars that I'm still

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Speaker 5: listening to, is you realize so much of the stuff

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Speaker 5: you hear is just not true. For a variety of reasons,

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Speaker 5: all kinds of differences. They need to keep things secret,

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Speaker 5: or it's a domestic politics for the United States or

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Speaker 5: somebody else, like a bunch of examples. I just went

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Speaker 5: through the chapter about the balloon. Remember when the Chinese

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Speaker 5: balloon came across. We knew before it took off. We

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Speaker 5: knew their balloon program, We knew where they came from.

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Speaker 5: We saw it rise up in the beginning. We wondered

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Speaker 5: where it was going, you know, but we acted like

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Speaker 5: it just came out of nowhere and didn't know anything

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Speaker 5: about it. For a variety all the stuff that we

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Speaker 5: said about tanks and Abrams tanks and stuff like that

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Speaker 5: was purely for domestic politics in Germany, so they could

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Speaker 5: free up their leopard tanks because of their domestic politics.

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Speaker 5: So it's just a it's always so much more complicated

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Speaker 5: than you realize at the time, and the reporting at

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Speaker 5: the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hall of mirrors, and further, you know, clouded by

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Speaker 1: their diplomatic speak, which is difficult to decipher if you're

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Speaker 1: a normal human.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got a lot more on the way. If

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Speaker 5: you miss an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty

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Speaker 5: on demand.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty