WEBVTT - TAI SAVETSILA - Taco Bout Real Estate

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have Ties

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<v Speaker 1>of vot in the Building, creator of Loving Listenings on

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<v Speaker 1>v H one, and founder of Agents in La, Agents

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<v Speaker 1>of La of La. My bad. I'm sorry, I'm starving.

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<v Speaker 1>It's noon over here and we have a table full

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<v Speaker 1>of food and I'm dying to know what you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have me eating while you're broke. But where you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have me eating today.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we don't have organic turkey, but we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to do some tacos.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna do tacos. Everyone loves tacos. And what I

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<v Speaker 1>like about tai guys, just so you know is I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying not to bother you and text you too much.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, you're doing tacos, Like what are

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<v Speaker 1>the ingredients? And I didn't want to pester you, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know what, I'll just I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>get typical taco ingredients. But Ty was really cool. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you're you're missing a couple of things. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go shop and I'm gonna I'm gonna bring the

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<v Speaker 1>missing ingredients for you, So go ahead, tell us what

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<v Speaker 1>the ingredients are for today's tacos.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we got the onions, obviously, every good taco has

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<v Speaker 2>a little sprinkle onions. And then we have these peppers,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean I like everything spicy, obviously that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tie and you know I love all the different

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of pepper types, ghost peppers, you know, to tie

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<v Speaker 2>chili peppers. So I had to bring that to bring

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<v Speaker 2>the fire avocado, right, okay, I mean that's just like

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<v Speaker 2>that boogie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that you were eating avocado when you were broke.

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<v Speaker 2>Though I think I was picking picking them up from

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<v Speaker 2>the trees. But my dad had them all right, So I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, okay, okay, I could I could respect that

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<v Speaker 1>with the taco shells, the lettuce, the cheese, the salt,

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<v Speaker 1>so all of it hrking me hot sauce. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that you brought these hot sauce packets and you were

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<v Speaker 1>like really gunn hull about them.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you get these things for like free taco bell.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, not anymore though? Don't they charge?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean there's teenagers working there.

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<v Speaker 1>They give them, you know, when I go and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>can I get an extra answer? Like you need to

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<v Speaker 1>order five more nuggets for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, where are you going?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't done it, but every once in a while

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<v Speaker 1>it happens to me. It's like when I go to

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store and they charge you five cents for a bag.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. Infury furiates me. I'm like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>are you really counting the bags?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean it's that stupid law right where the

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<v Speaker 2>recycle law where they have to like tax everything. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>well maybe that's just another tax law, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't is it a real law or is it

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<v Speaker 1>just they're trying to make some money. California being California

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<v Speaker 1>is the only city there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we we have a lot to say about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I tell people all the time in California, you're

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<v Speaker 1>just paying for the weather. You're playing a premium for

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<v Speaker 1>the weather, are we them?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's just like some like who bunch of seating

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<v Speaker 2>in the clouds and.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the weather every there's no other city that

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<v Speaker 1>compares weatherwise.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, is consistently. I feel like, because yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a whole other topic.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a whole other topic. So go ahead, start cooking

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<v Speaker 1>up this dish, and while you're cooking. Take me back

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<v Speaker 1>to what was going on in the days of there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things going on. Oh, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>The first two knobs are your the knobs you're cooking on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what the problem is? Guys all guys, well,

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<v Speaker 2>well understand this. We try to cook things as fast

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<v Speaker 2>as possible. Okay, women, everything is like xanax, right, everything

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<v Speaker 2>is like so relaxed. I'm goen I have a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>But guys, it's high and cook the ship fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's good because I'm starving. Cook it, don't burn it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then for us, all right, cool, good.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this is electric Okay, you got.

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<v Speaker 2>It, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm assuming that these tacos was a staple at

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<v Speaker 1>some period in your life. Take me back to what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on during this the taco bell tie phase

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<v Speaker 1>of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's been a few times in my life

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<v Speaker 2>right where you know, you overspend and you want to

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<v Speaker 2>you want to keep up with the Joneses, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>keeping up with the Joneses, it's like a certain kind

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<v Speaker 2>of attire. You have to dress in a certain kind

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<v Speaker 2>of facade. You have to keep up. And in that

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<v Speaker 2>it's if you don't have the foundation right built out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you can go broken then, right. So I

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<v Speaker 2>have had many times in my life where I've had

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<v Speaker 2>my ego getting the way and I've purchased bigger items

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<v Speaker 2>than I probably could afford it. Right, I've always had

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<v Speaker 2>really nice things, nice houses, brand new, nice cars. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean right now, I think I've had over thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>different kind of cars. Wow. You know I've probably spent

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<v Speaker 2>maybe over a million dollars in cars.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of people can't say that now.

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<v Speaker 1>But take me back to your home life, like you're

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<v Speaker 1>growing up prior to all of this middle class.

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<v Speaker 2>Rich Okay, so this is the thing, right, home life.

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<v Speaker 2>My grandfather and my father are from Thailand, right from

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<v Speaker 2>a third world country, and they came over to the

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<v Speaker 2>States and where they met my mom. Right. My dad

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<v Speaker 2>and very modest. My family in Thailand is very predominant,

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<v Speaker 2>but my dad did not like the politics and decided

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<v Speaker 2>that he wanted to live a very humble life and

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<v Speaker 2>so moved out to the valley where he met my mom. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom also had humble upbringings, but my grandfather on

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<v Speaker 2>my mother's side did inherit quite a bit, but she

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<v Speaker 2>never ever took anything from her family. So we have

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<v Speaker 2>two individuals that had you know, these these prides that

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do things everything by themselves, right. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was always that you know, if I take some with

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<v Speaker 2>my family, then I owe them something, right. So my

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<v Speaker 2>mom struggled. She had my sister, my oldest brother, my

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<v Speaker 2>well I'm the middle, I guess, my older brother. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's four kids essentially, right, So she struggled to try

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<v Speaker 2>to raise us. She had multiple husbands that failed, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just trying to make ends meets right, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, meeting after meeting my dad. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>my dad was very frugal with money, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't have anybody to call, right, He wasn't calling

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<v Speaker 2>back in Thailand and Mom, can I borrow some money?

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<v Speaker 2>None of that stuff. So he worked as a bartender

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<v Speaker 2>and which was not like a very noble job, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but he saved up enough money to buy a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of real estate. And he bought that first piece was

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<v Speaker 2>an eleven unit, you know, which I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>how he did this, but what he did was, which

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<v Speaker 2>was super cool, is he bought these pieces of real

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<v Speaker 2>estate from I want to say, like Palm dar l

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<v Speaker 2>Lancaster pulled them out of the ground, right and cut

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<v Speaker 2>them in half and then moved him actually in I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say our Leita, California, so eleven years.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me he really uprooted it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, First off, how do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you do that stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Like hey, on a whole other level?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's really cool. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to burn this but no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean each fire is low. It seems maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>just the.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm trying to make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of it, because your story is really interesting. So

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<v Speaker 1>your mom had the kid, the four kids after him,

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<v Speaker 1>or there was this after after him.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just kind of giving a little bit of backstory.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who my mom is. It's not like she's

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<v Speaker 2>taking money from our family. You know, my dad hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>taken any money from the family, so you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>really had to do it themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you guys know it growing up? That's your

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<v Speaker 1>your relatives had money. Was it kind of frustrating a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit at times? Or no?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, when you have a certain amount of love,

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<v Speaker 2>money can't replace it, right, So you on a homework

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<v Speaker 2>cart by the way probably, yeah, but it's just how

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<v Speaker 2>I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, that was beautiful. That was like the most

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful sentence ever.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when your daughter looks at you and gives

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<v Speaker 2>you a hug. You know, yes, sure it's great that

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<v Speaker 2>you bought the brand new bike, but that hug that

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<v Speaker 2>as apparently you feel that you know, it means more

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<v Speaker 2>than the bike. Mom. If you can afford it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's amazing. But your love is always going to cover

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<v Speaker 2>me and everything that I need. Right, And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it reminds me of that story obviously with the Ukrainian

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<v Speaker 2>War and a lot of these politics that you know

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing with this war. Right, And there was this

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<v Speaker 2>this starving child right with her mom and she she

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<v Speaker 2>must have been like seven or eight years old, and

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<v Speaker 2>her mom was in the background. They were doing an interview,

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<v Speaker 2>and she told the cameras that she doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>upset her mom and that she doesn't want her to

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<v Speaker 2>feel the pain that she's suffering, and that even though

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<v Speaker 2>her stomach was growling right, growling, she said that she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want her mom to suffer. Okay, a little girls

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<v Speaker 2>did that? You know. So when I see stories and

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<v Speaker 2>hear stories about that kind of stuff, you know, purity

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<v Speaker 2>children that really look after us versus we looking after them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. That's why it's so important to really make

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<v Speaker 2>sure we take care of our children and never have

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<v Speaker 2>them suffer. But it's so sad to see that the

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<v Speaker 2>child was taking care of her parent and because the mom,

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<v Speaker 2>the mother felt so bad that she could not, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get her daughter food because you know, when they were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get food for the daughter, they were blowing

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<v Speaker 2>up people. And this was in the Middle East, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not trying to pick sides, but regardless, anytimes

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<v Speaker 2>there's kids involved and a mother involved, you know, there

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<v Speaker 2>is no sides to me. There's what's right and what's

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<v Speaker 2>wrong exactly. And it was just very disheartening that we

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<v Speaker 2>would even do that. And it makes you it makes

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<v Speaker 2>you think that, you know, love is so beautiful and

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<v Speaker 2>it fills your soul and it fills your gut right

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<v Speaker 2>with everything you might need, you know. So that's probably

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<v Speaker 2>the best meal you could ever have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So you're going back to your dad uprooting

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<v Speaker 1>these buildings. You were you were how old when you

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed this whole endeavor?

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<v Speaker 2>You know to which part I mean I mean there's

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<v Speaker 2>certain parts of my childhood that for some reason it's

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<v Speaker 2>just really unclear. My mom got through it, got through

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<v Speaker 2>a divorce with my father. My father was cheating on her,

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<v Speaker 2>which probably most men do. Yeah, why you say that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, shout out to my husband. He knows that,

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<v Speaker 1>he knows that I talk smack. But yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>shout outs to him. He gave me the four one

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<v Speaker 1>one education.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, okay, so he cheated and then your mom

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<v Speaker 1>was like I'm out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my mom is out. I mean it's I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's different back in the day, and maybe it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, at first of I don't want to get

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<v Speaker 2>smack right now. So you know, there's needs and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like anxiety when especially when you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the money that you you know, you see all

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<v Speaker 2>your friends have, right, So like sometimes there's an escape,

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<v Speaker 2>like me say, me and you, right, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>in a relationship, we have we have kids, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know maybe that we're fighting so much that we tend

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<v Speaker 2>to forget about us, right, and we have to stress

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<v Speaker 2>because what are the stress? Stress is really about not

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<v Speaker 2>providing for your children. Yeah, so it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. I think for my mom, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was there were two struggling young, you know, individuals that

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to provide for their kids. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>my grandmother and you know, and his mom had money,

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<v Speaker 2>but no one was helping out and they were staying

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<v Speaker 2>out of it obviously in any kind of relationship. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think by my dad had the intentions

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<v Speaker 2>to find somebody else and not to deal with that right,

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<v Speaker 2>which is definitely not the right way, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was one of the kids, you know, that had

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<v Speaker 2>the experience that it's it's you know, there's no right

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<v Speaker 2>or wrong, there's just a lesson right. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>we all take inside, especially the children, we're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like these sponges that really just absorb it all and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's kind of it's sad that it happens like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not just putting food on the table

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<v Speaker 2>for your kids, but it's obviously the missing love that

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<v Speaker 2>you should probably should have had. Yeah, and just because

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<v Speaker 2>you feed, you know, your family, doesn't mean it's the

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<v Speaker 2>same as loving your family. So there's there's different things

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<v Speaker 2>in my life that I've experienced and I don't regret

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<v Speaker 2>any of it, you know, because what I do think

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<v Speaker 2>is that it's taught me a lesson. It depends on

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<v Speaker 2>each individual if you're willing to understand that lesson. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a I'm a very big believer in the Bible

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<v Speaker 2>and reading stories that can resonate with myself. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe in pushing it. But if those stories resonate with

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<v Speaker 2>you and you learn something from it, then maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>can utilize it in your life. That was kind of deep,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, real deep.

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<v Speaker 1>So so I'm trying to get back to your So

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<v Speaker 1>your father starts this endeavor in real estate, because I

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<v Speaker 1>sure you and you know your whole most of your

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<v Speaker 1>resume is in real estate and production. But I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>to know how this realest him getting into real estate

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<v Speaker 1>impacted your journey.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not just my father, it's I think my

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<v Speaker 2>whole family has been into real estate. My grandmother worked

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<v Speaker 2>in real estate, buying and selling houses at an early age.

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<v Speaker 2>She worked at I think Centray twenty one when they

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<v Speaker 2>first opened, right probably, I don't even know, it's in

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<v Speaker 2>the sixties. And you know she she loved real estate.

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<v Speaker 2>My father, you know, saw that that you can make

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<v Speaker 2>money off of tenants. And you know, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>thing about immigrants, right, My dad was an immigrant. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a I'm a TI citizen, an American citizen, so I

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<v Speaker 2>have to have a certain appreciation for the hustle that

0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.959
<v Speaker 2>immigrants have in this country, right. Yeah, And you know

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<v Speaker 2>for what he did to work as a bartender and

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<v Speaker 2>to make millions off of real estate, right and getting

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<v Speaker 2>a piece of that American dream, right and without an ego,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of respect for that. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as a as a kid growing up, I worked in

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<v Speaker 2>real estate, but not through the same conventional ways that

0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:34.120
<v Speaker 2>they did, right. I worked in a bank, not by choice.

0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:36.920
<v Speaker 2>There was a girl I was dating and the dad

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to kick my ass and he said, you're coming

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<v Speaker 2>to work with me every day. So that's exactly how

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<v Speaker 2>I got into real estate.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious. Well that's how you got into real estate,

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<v Speaker 1>or into banking real.

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<v Speaker 2>Estate, real estate because it was a mortgage bank.

0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.480
<v Speaker 1>It was a mortgage bank, so you don't like home loans.

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<v Speaker 2>Home loans, So this guy wanted to kick my ass

0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.600
<v Speaker 2>because no, it wasn't really an offer of a job.

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<v Speaker 2>It was more like if you keep on dating my daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>that's you know, sneaking out of her house after you know,

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<v Speaker 2>eleven o'clock a night, coming to my house. I'm gonna go,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, break your teeth. So he lived down the street.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy had a Hummer, you know, Lotus and Mercedes

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<v Speaker 2>and all the fancy cars. And he also had this

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<v Speaker 2>daughter that looked like Christina Agilera. Right, So me having

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the hormones I had, I'm like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>pull that. And sure enough, you know, she was walking

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<v Speaker 2>down the street with her her brother one time and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, did what I do and just spit the game,

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<v Speaker 2>and next thing you know, she was sneaking out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. And then daddy came for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Daddy came for me, and he basically went to my mother,

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<v Speaker 2>my mother, and she he said that, yeah, I heard

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<v Speaker 2>your son is sleeping with my daughter, and yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a problem, and like Italian mafioso kind of

0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.600
<v Speaker 2>looking dude. And my mom called me right on my

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<v Speaker 2>Nokia right that the phone, yeah exactly, and said, ty,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you should come home. I'm like, come home?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean? She says? Yeah, This guy says

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<v Speaker 2>you're hooking up with his daughter, and yeah, he's pretty upset.

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<v Speaker 2>So my mom had to negotiate the terms. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to go to work with this guy every

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<v Speaker 2>single day so that he could pay attention to who

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<v Speaker 2>I was and what I was doing with my life.

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<v Speaker 1>How old were you at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I was I nineteen eighteen, eighteen nineteen, I don't even know,

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<v Speaker 2>right around maybe I was eighteen, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean old enough to get my ass kicked by a

0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:38.000
<v Speaker 2>grown ass man. Yeah, so especially listen, you definitely get

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<v Speaker 2>your ass kicked when it comes to somebody's daughter. Because

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<v Speaker 2>I have a daughter, so I know how it is

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<v Speaker 2>to be a parent. You're never going to win.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you look back and now you go, I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, listen, if you try to do anything with my daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting your ass kicked. That's just the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it just it's going to happen. And I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>My daughter is fourteen. I was gonna say thirteen fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're you're inching into like the troubled territory.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I mean she's she's a good kid. She

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<v Speaker 2>she horseback rides, she does all the sports that that

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<v Speaker 2>daddy's gonna be paying for us for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>his life front with But yeah, I mean, listen, every

0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.160
<v Speaker 2>man should have a daughter right right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it makes a man a man. I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>I have played barbies on the floor with my daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>I painted nails, and I'm not ashamed to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a great dad. You know. Maybe it stems from,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my past childhood of you know, of maybe

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<v Speaker 2>not having parents around like I probably should have. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably like over compensating, right, you know, I could

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<v Speaker 2>probably been a nail technician that has nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with my Asian side.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious. That's hilarious. So so you end up working

0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:51.000
<v Speaker 1>at this bank, do you and the daddy, the daddy,

0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the mean daddy end up becoming buddies and like we did.

0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:56.399
<v Speaker 2>We ended up opening a company together.

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<v Speaker 1>Get the freak out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is the craziest, very crazy party.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you end up saying with his daughter, No.

0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.080
<v Speaker 2>He wanted me to marry her and there's no way

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<v Speaker 2>I got.

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<v Speaker 1>Rid of her ass, Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we started partying and hanging out with chicks

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<v Speaker 2>and crazy. I mean the fact that I have these

0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.600
<v Speaker 2>stories in my head. If you could even imagine the

0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:17.720
<v Speaker 2>stories in my head of women in a convertible BMW

0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:22.360
<v Speaker 2>with no tops on, driving on the road and we're

0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.840
<v Speaker 2>in the front seat of the car. Just crazy stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>like crazy crazy stuff. We're buddies, Yeah, we're buddies after

0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:32.119
<v Speaker 2>that point. And I think I went to the graduation

0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.520
<v Speaker 2>for his daughter, didn't do anything with her and called it.

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<v Speaker 2>Say peace. You know, it was one of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it was weird, that's crazy. I got into

0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:44.159
<v Speaker 2>money with these with his daddy, right, so you know,

0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.480
<v Speaker 2>this was I think two thousand and six, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>we ended up doing financially amazing. And let me tell

0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.320
<v Speaker 2>you first, let me backtrack a little bit, right. You know,

0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.280
<v Speaker 2>when I was that kid that was going to work

0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:02.040
<v Speaker 2>with the father, I was this really shitty, punk ass kid.

0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.800
<v Speaker 2>It was eighteen because now I remember eighteen because it

0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:09.320
<v Speaker 2>was just I just graduated at eighteen years old. Nobody

0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:11.679
<v Speaker 2>wants to spend time in any kind of building, right,

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<v Speaker 2>especially an office bullshit job. Right. So I learned the

0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:21.520
<v Speaker 2>mortgage banking business inside and out by annoying people. And

0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I say annoying, like you know, all right, Karen I'm

0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna sit here and watch you underwrite stuff, right, And

0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.040
<v Speaker 2>so I'm reading the book I'm underwriting because I have

0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:31.320
<v Speaker 2>nothing to do. I'm bored. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he didn't really like give you a job. He

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<v Speaker 1>just needed you under supervision.

0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.959
<v Speaker 2>Oh supervision. There was no job. There was no payment,

0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:40.439
<v Speaker 2>nothing like that. Let's get that strictly, you know, like clear,

0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:42.480
<v Speaker 2>there was nothing. I was spending my own money to

0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:44.840
<v Speaker 2>go to work with him, right, because it was either

0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:46.720
<v Speaker 2>that or death. So it was like, which one you want?

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<v Speaker 1>This is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went to work with this guy, and he

0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.520
<v Speaker 2>was busy, macho dude, you're doing his thing, right, Italian guy,

0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:56.960
<v Speaker 2>your big ass office, and me, I'm like a little

0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:58.960
<v Speaker 2>small cubicle, like, hey, do whatever the hell you want,

0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.840
<v Speaker 2>but you're standing here, you know. So I ended up

0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.680
<v Speaker 2>meeting everybody in that company and sitting with them, became

0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:07.439
<v Speaker 2>friends with them and learning their jobs. But so, like

0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:11.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about learning their jobs so well, I learned it,

0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.640
<v Speaker 2>only to say that they're doing shit wrong. Oh my god,

0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.679
<v Speaker 2>that's like Dennis the Menace. Hey, Karen, you know do

0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.199
<v Speaker 2>you know that this guideline says that you can't do

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<v Speaker 2>this and She's like, I don't care what you what

0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:25.000
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about, Ty, And then I was like, oh,

0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:27.560
<v Speaker 2>let me go to Art. Hey, Art, guess what, You're

0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:29.720
<v Speaker 2>probably gonna lose money from your investors if she doesn't

0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:35.960
<v Speaker 2>correct this. I tattletaled and everybody in that company.

0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Now, I see how you guys ended up becoming partners, right,

0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.080
<v Speaker 1>because you were like showing it. Well, indirectly you were

0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:47.680
<v Speaker 1>showing him that you knew this stuff. But indirectly.

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not not yet, yeah, not a purpose. But there

0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:54.639
<v Speaker 2>was this guy named Tony Ravella. He had a company

0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:58.240
<v Speaker 2>called Fortune One. The guy was probably like six or

0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:01.600
<v Speaker 2>seven years older than me. Right, hot shot Latin guy

0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:04.760
<v Speaker 2>walks in and he's like, hey, you know, I'm looking

0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:06.720
<v Speaker 2>for my checks. I was at the front, right, and

0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I said checks and said or whatever, right, and so

0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:10.560
<v Speaker 2>I will go to the back and say, Art. This

0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:13.520
<v Speaker 2>guy Tony says, you know, he's looking for checks, and

0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:14.719
<v Speaker 2>he's like, just give me these checks. He had him

0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:16.960
<v Speaker 2>on his desk. I look at the checks. I'm like

0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:19.840
<v Speaker 2>twenty seven thousand dollars. This guy's not that much older

0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:23.240
<v Speaker 2>than me, you know, Like hey, Tony, like how do

0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:26.719
<v Speaker 2>you make this kind of money? He's like, I'm a lender,

0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, for real stagents. I'm like a lender from

0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:32.480
<v Speaker 2>real stagents. You know, Like okay, well how do I

0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:36.600
<v Speaker 2>do that? You know, like I'm a broke skateboarder. Right,

0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.600
<v Speaker 2>So he's like, yeah, why don't you come hang out

0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.280
<v Speaker 2>with me and I'll talk about it. I'm like, hey,

0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Art Tony, you know your client, he's like the number

0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:47.960
<v Speaker 2>one client, says I can go hang out with him.

0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:52.080
<v Speaker 2>He says okay, so whatever, he didn't care, and so

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.280
<v Speaker 2>we ended up going to a Miyagi sushi on sunset

0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:57.920
<v Speaker 2>and having like the craziest time of our life. Right.

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, here I am like asking a million questions.

0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:03.720
<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget this, right, anybody that somebody doesn't want

0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:06.399
<v Speaker 2>to have an annoying kid asking them what did you

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:08.600
<v Speaker 2>do to make your money? Right? It's like the most annoying,

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:10.800
<v Speaker 2>especially you're young and you just really want to find

0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:13.560
<v Speaker 2>out the secret. So I was doing that constantly and

0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:16.040
<v Speaker 2>they're like, ty, this is this is not business time

0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:18.040
<v Speaker 2>right now, this is just we're parting. We're having a

0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:20.640
<v Speaker 2>good time. You know, you're the you're the young young

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:24.160
<v Speaker 2>kid that shouldn't be drinking, but you know, you're taking everybody' shots. Yeah,

0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, because I was driving in like really nice cars.

0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:29.879
<v Speaker 2>I was driving h one hummers with these guys. So

0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:31.080
<v Speaker 2>it's like I felt like I was part of the

0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.160
<v Speaker 2>crew even though I was on probation pretty much. Yeah yeah,

0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:36.639
<v Speaker 2>but you know, these guys saw that had interest in

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they wanted to help me. So I did,

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<v Speaker 2>like what every young kid that wants to make a

0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:45.199
<v Speaker 2>million dollars, right, I started sitting with these guys and

0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:46.679
<v Speaker 2>just watching them what they do, and I said, well, hey,

0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:47.920
<v Speaker 2>let me see if I can go get a deal.

0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:50.760
<v Speaker 2>And sure enough, I got my first deal. I made, like,

0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:53.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was like forty eight hundred bucks. But

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:54.280
<v Speaker 2>for a kid that.

0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Has a lot of money, yeah, you know, to making.

0:22:57.520 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Forty eight hundred hours like okay, well cool, Like what

0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:02.560
<v Speaker 2>am gonna do with money? Right? So I started buying stuff,

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:05.879
<v Speaker 2>you know, just random stuff, and it was like stuff

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:07.399
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't even need. Right, I'm like, well this

0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 2>is cool, but now I'm broke again, right, Because it's

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:13.160
<v Speaker 2>like when you're you feel like you're rich forty hundred

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 2>dollars me and you were like, oh shit, we're broke, right,

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:18.959
<v Speaker 2>But when you're a kid and you have your parents,

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:21.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, that are taking care of everything, and you're

0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:23.359
<v Speaker 2>getting money. You're like, okay, well I don't want to

0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:25.640
<v Speaker 2>go broke again, like how to get my next deal? Right?

0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:28.760
<v Speaker 2>So I started learning, like learning how to like talk

0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:32.400
<v Speaker 2>to people, and learning about sales books and educating myself,

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:34.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, with the rich dad, poor dad books right,

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:39.440
<v Speaker 2>the Robert Kiyosaki mentality, and just reading different kinds of

0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 2>sales books. I mean, I have a crazy book collection.

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Anybody that wants to be on my level, you better

0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 2>be prepared to buy at least like a hundred books,

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 2>right because of psychology, right, psychology one on one, and

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:54.360
<v Speaker 2>you have to understand how to read people so well,

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:57.960
<v Speaker 2>just by the way they look at you, their facial expressions.

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:03.240
<v Speaker 2>That's it. People want you to mirror them, and if

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:05.119
<v Speaker 2>you don't, they're not going to feel comfortable with you.

0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:07.880
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter who you think you are or how

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 2>rich you think you are. And I win to burn

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:11.119
<v Speaker 2>this thing up.

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Cool, that's hilarious.

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But the bottom line is is education is key

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's a science. And I had that learned that science,

0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 2>especially if I wanted to be with the big players.

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Right now, When you were in high school, were you

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:30.720
<v Speaker 1>a good student? How did you know to start looking

0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:33.639
<v Speaker 1>into books? Was it because everyone around you had a

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 1>book collection?

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Where did that? Because even being young, I can't imagine

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:41.639
<v Speaker 1>you where that came from.

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Listen, just because they have glasses on, don't get it twisted.

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not that book smarter. I know how to manipulate,

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 2>probably better than most. Right. So money is the first

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 2>way of manipulating anybody. Right, So if you had a

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 2>little bit of money, you know how to give your

0:24:56.880 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 2>lunch money to the teacher and buy her stuff, right,

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 2>whether it's a drink or whatever. Right, it's I learned

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 2>about how to get extra credit. I learned how to

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 2>suck up to my teacher, how to get good grades,

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:13.239
<v Speaker 2>right without even doing all the work. It's kind it's

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of shitty, right. I don't really want my kids

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:16.680
<v Speaker 2>to hear this stuff and think that they can get

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 2>away with you.

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Definite.

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well I'm the strictest. I'm the strictest part, but

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm very vers I.

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:25.919
<v Speaker 1>Feel like all the dads are like the kids know,

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:27.640
<v Speaker 1>they get their love from the mom, and then they

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 1>go to the dad for like, yeah, they just don't

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 1>want to disappoint the dad or whatever.

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 2>This is the thing, like, I'm not happy with what

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 2>I've done, especially in school. But I used to take

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 2>baseball cards and you know, trade them to my friends

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 2>that do my homework or you know whatever I would

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 2>have from my birthday parties and give it away to

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 2>order to make deals. I was making deals in high school,

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, And and I was basically what I was

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 2>doing is I was having students do my homework for me, right,

0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, I was a B level student for a

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 2>guy that really didn't do much work, right, I knew

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 2>how to manipulate the system to basically just work for me.

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's unfortunate. But I will not say that

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:14.679
<v Speaker 2>I have the education of an A student, because I

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 2>really don't. I just knew how to hustle. I knew

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 2>how to have people work for me at at a

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 2>student level in order to get me the grades I need.

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 2>I knew how to buy my teachers off.

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:28.360
<v Speaker 1>I always heard this rumor that usually A students work

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>for B and C students or something like that. A students.

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 2>That's all bullshit, because all those A students definitely were

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 2>on my payroll and that's just the truth.

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so you work, that's what that goes that that.

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 2>No, you said A students A students work for B

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and C students work for Yeah, okay, so that's what

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>you said. Yes, they definitely definitely work. Sorry, I was

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 2>getting I was getting out real fierce right now. I

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, no work for me.

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, that's you just confirm.

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 2>You just confirm the theory. You know, by by you know,

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll say this by by twenty one, you know, which

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:05.679
<v Speaker 2>was two thousand, two thousand and seven, right, I was

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:08.880
<v Speaker 2>making like one hundred K a month, right, wow? Yeah,

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I want to say it was twenty wow. Right. I

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 2>was having money going to my accounts that I thought

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 2>that the IRS was playing with me and putting money

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 2>into my accounts. I was thinking, like, where's this money

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:22.640
<v Speaker 2>coming from. It's just getting to positive account. I had

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 2>so many business affiliations with people that money would come

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 2>in and there would be baked deposits in my account

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 2>and it would be no trace of where this money

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 2>came from. So I'm tripping out meanwhile trying to figure

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 2>out where this money is coming from. And I was

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.680
<v Speaker 2>financially killing it, like killing this is.

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 1>After the forty eight hundred dollars adult keeper were the money.

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 2>We're moving. We're moving way past that now, yeah, because

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 2>that was just one little stipid. Once I got that taste. Yeah,

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 2>it's like an it's I don't want to say it's

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 2>like a coke addiction, because who does that. I'm just saying.

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, but it's like that. It's like, you know,

0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 2>you get that one taste of something and you want

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 2>to just keep on going. Yeah. Yeah, right, So that

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 2>one experience that had forty eight hundred dollars, I turned

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 2>that to quickly money, right. I got one check that

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 2>was like ninety eight hundred dollars or something, ninety eight hundred.

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Try eight ninety eight thousand dollars. Well, I'm talking about

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 2>nineteen hundred. That's nothing, ninety eight thousand dollars, right, for

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 2>one transaction, So you know I was really doing some

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 2>big stuff.

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Now after that first I hate to keep bringing up,

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 1>but after that first forty eight hundred, you end up

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 1>learning a value, but lesson about how you're spending. So

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.640
<v Speaker 1>the next bit of checks, are you just investing them

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>more wisely versus spending like a crazy person.

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, I didn't. I did not learn about

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 2>investing in nothing. I only learned about spending and living

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 2>a lifestyle. That was it, right because there was no

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 2>financial education for a cocky young kid that was driving

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 2>a brand new S five hundred, right, and that was

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 2>making more money than his teachers in college, right, right,

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Because obviously I got out of high school, went to college,

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 2>and my first semester, I was like, why made me? Hear?

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm using used books. They're trying to teach me e

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 2>comm they trying to teach me business, and this does

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 2>not make sense, right because I'm making that ridiculous money.

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, I was like one of the very few

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 2>people do with that stuff. I was a hustler.

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>They got lucky, right, Okay, okay, and then now take

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you closer to love enlistings.

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 2>That's like way further out there.

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>And okay, so you and the dad, you guys, partner,

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>is this when you're making a lot more money?

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>We we what we did was we were we were

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 2>we were funding like loans and this is not before,

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 2>this isn't this is before I got into actual real estate.

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna show you how I got into that.

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 2>We were funding, Like by myself, I was doing fifty

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 2>million a month just in fundings, right, so people's loans

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>and using warehouse lines to fund their you know, their

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 2>their the real estate. I wanted to do more retail,

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 2>which I was dealing with. The wholesale means that if

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you're a mortgage broker, you're coming to our company and

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>we were funding your stuff, right. But I would make

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 2>more money if I was the retail and I was

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 2>making the wholesale right. It was like there was retail

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 2>wholesale money, right, and then.

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 1>We're selling the loans wholesale money.

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Wholesale money is like, for instance, if you buy this

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 2>water right and you buy this for a dollar, right,

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 2>a wholesale, but you're selling it in the supermarkets for

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 2>a dollar fifty.

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but how's that? How do you have wholesale in

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>real estate? Though?

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 2>With lending, well, I owned a piece of the mortgage company, right,

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 2>so we made that money. I had a piece of

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 2>the real estate company, or not really at the time,

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't my real estate company. It was me as

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 2>an agent, so I was making my commissions on top

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 2>of it. So I was making commissions and I was

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 2>making a piece of the mortgage company, right, because I

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 2>had interest in that company, okay, right, And you know

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 2>it was like double dipping. I was making insane amount

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 2>of money. So each transaction to me could have been

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 2>like twenty to thirty thousand every transaction. So that was

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 2>what the retail and the wholesale would make me. But

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 2>if it was just the wholesale make, you know, it

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 2>could be it could be five thousand to ten thousand, depends, right,

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 2>It depends on want have to split with my partner? Right?

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 1>And at what are your sisters, and I mean your

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>siblings and your parents saying at the time when they're

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>seeing you like extremely successful?

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 2>I think they were just confused on how much money.

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, these were different times though money was coming

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>in a lot easier. I mean, obviously this daying age

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 2>is a lot harder, right, there's so many more regulations.

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 2>And I was just young and cocky. So what are

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 2>they going to say to me? I didn't care.

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Did your siblings say, teach me how to fish?

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say that. I think that they were living

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 2>their life and I was living mine and in a

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 2>very fast lane. I was partying every night and drinking,

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 2>and you hanging out with chicks and just doing the

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 2>young kid things like the fact that I even did

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that stuff when I looked back at my life and traveling,

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>like I travel all over the world, right, and I'm

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 2>talking about about like a very lavish lifestyle, private islands,

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 2>like going to Europe, spending fifty thousand up for a week,

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 2>like it's just crazy shit, right, And it's it's it's

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>it's an experience that most people will never have. I

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 2>look back as, oh, that's cool, but it was also stupid.

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 2>I spent so much money, yeah, right, And I think

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 2>that anybody that has ever made that kind of money

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 2>they always wish that they would have saved a little bit. Right.

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 2>I did not save. I just spent.

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>So what was where was that critical lesson where you

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming because you're saying that it wasn't that was

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>that it wasn't a great idea at the time. So

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>where did it take a turn for probably not the

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>best for you with all the spending.

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 2>There was a mortgage crash, right, which affected the real

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 2>estate world, you know.

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 1>So that was like two thousand and eight.

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Two thousands. It started at the two thousand and seven

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 2>and ended up to or started it started two thousand

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 2>and end of two thousand and seven and went to

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and eight. So I think I want to

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 2>say November of two thousand and seven where the market

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 2>started shifting. Right, And when you're making all that kind

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 2>of money, it's like you have a couple of drinks, right,

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 2>You're not thinking that you could get drunk. You're thinking

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 2>that you can still drive. Right. So I didn't see

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 2>it coming. I was too new to it, right. It

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>was like there was no lessons for me to learn.

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 2>It was I'm going to learn this lesson. God's going

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 2>to show me that I'm going to learn a lesson.

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I need to slow down. But my foresight it was

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 2>not there, and that vision was not there of the

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 2>market crashing. When that market crashed, all my bills of

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 2>whatever I was paying, I want to say, it was

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 2>paying like twenty k a month at an early age,

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>right in my twenties, right, I didn't prepare for so

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 2>I had enough money to cover say a year's worth

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 2>of you know, of salaries, cause I was paying employees

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>that worked for me. I was paying for expenses. I

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 2>was paying for offices, cars, six thousand dollars worth of

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 2>payments a month, like some crazy stuff. And the problem

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 2>is is your ego is still in tact. So you're like, well,

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 2>it's going to pass over, no big deal. I'm going

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 2>to keep on paying for people's expenses. I mean by

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 2>me having a decent heart and paying for the stuff

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 2>and hoping that you know that things are going to

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 2>get better. It didn't get better. It only got worse. Right,

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 2>that's scary.

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>So then what happens?

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, so this one was cooked?

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Man feed us.

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not just making sure. I mean, we want

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:21.280
<v Speaker 2>a well done rain. We want a well Jesus one.

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready. I want to eat. I want to try

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>these sales too.

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 2>She wants us to try the shelves. So let me

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 2>just say this, and I'm gonna I'm gonna serve this

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 2>to you. Since I didn't prepare myself for a shitty economy,

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, I ended up going broke, like literally, and

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't like I was goke like bankruptcy broke. Yeah,

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Like like when you have all these debtors and you

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 2>can't pay for these things because your lifestyle is so expensive,

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 2>right and the money's not coming in, you know, it

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 2>takes a toll on you, like yes, there was some

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 2>deals coming in, but you know it wasn't the same, right.

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:02.359
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's like, you know there's a winter coming, right,

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:05.359
<v Speaker 2>but you're not storing enough food. You know, you're just

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 2>you're lazy. You want to go hang out with the nightclub.

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 2>So you're not taking enough food in, you're not harvesting,

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 2>harvesting enough, and before you know it, here's the winter,

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 2>and now midway through winter, you're starving, right, but your

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 2>ego's in place, so you're not trying to go ask

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>your friends and family because you're this macho farmer. You know,

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 2>you're you have this ego. So the main thing in

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 2>this story is is I had an ego and I

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>had to learn a lesson from it, right that, you know,

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.840
<v Speaker 2>I needed to prepare myself. But you know it was

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 2>a first time. It was new, young, rich, successful.

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:41.359
<v Speaker 1>So how long were you broke?

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 2>For? Oh? Years? Years? Years? It wasn't like I had

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.319
<v Speaker 2>just you know, I snapped right out of it. It

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 2>was years, you know, to learn that lesson, and you know,

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 2>almost lost everything. Got to keep my one of my cars,

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 2>got to keep one of the houses. But I still

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 2>have the file bankruptcy and and and you know, terminate

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 2>my lifestyle, right, didn't go on trips, you know, barely

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 2>had enough money to survive every month, you know, just

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 2>with modifications of loans and you know, saying you're going

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 2>to pay back people, and.

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, think I have kids or anything, thank God?

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Right. See, No, I didn't have kids at that time

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.800
<v Speaker 2>because I was still really young. But you know, it

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 2>was I can't even imagine if I did. Let's just

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 2>say that, you know, And it scares me even to

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 2>say that, because you know, now I'm like a saber, right,

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:33.319
<v Speaker 2>so I always have money. I actually live a very

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 2>modest lifestyle. When I see people that act like they

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 2>have all this and that, you know, it's it's ridiculous

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 2>to me, you know. I I don't look down on them.

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 2>I just think that they don't know, right. It's like

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 2>that in the Bible says, you know, forgive me Father,

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 2>for they do not know, right. So it's like they

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know what could possibly happen. Right, So when people

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 2>act a certain way, they just don't know what the

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:00.800
<v Speaker 2>possibilities are. And you know, I learned a value lesson

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.319
<v Speaker 2>to never act like I'm better than anybody else or

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 2>have more money than anybody else. I mean, honestly, I

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 2>have a crazy watch collection, right, and I don't even

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 2>wear watches. You know, I got beautiful rollu says Cardias

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff. What kind of attention am I

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 2>going to attract? Right, I'm gonna get somebody because they

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 2>think I'm cool because I have, you know, fifty thousand

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 2>dollars watch on. I didn't need you in at the beginning,

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.479
<v Speaker 2>when I had my Black American Express, I still didn't

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:27.720
<v Speaker 2>need you because you're only cool cool with me because

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 2>I was spending money on you.

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, my my husband, he's reading a book called

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Like Money Psychology, and he was telling me this morning

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 1>that there's a difference between rich and wealthy. And he

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 1>was saying that rich people, you know, they they're trying

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 1>to give off this image. But if you ever see

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>someone driving a nice car there, when other people look

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>at you, they're thinking, wow, that's a nice car. They're

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 1>not thinking, oh, he's cool because he's driving a nice car,

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 1>or this person's cool because they have a nice watch.

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 1>There's thaying and that's a nice watch.

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 2>That's you could you could you could say it like that.

0:37:57.239 --> 0:37:59.879
<v Speaker 2>You know, first off, it doesn't really matter what anybody thinks. Right,

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.399
<v Speaker 2>that's what you think. If you want an expensive car,

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 2>just do it for you. That's what I'm saying. When

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.359
<v Speaker 2>I was spending money on people, I was doing because

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 2>I was so insecure that I felt like I needed

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 2>to have a lifestyle and have friends and whatnot. But

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.440
<v Speaker 2>all these people were like bad actors. Right. They were

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 2>only there because I had the nicest stuff. Right, So

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, where were they when

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I had no money? Right? They were gone? So you

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:25.879
<v Speaker 2>got to do things for yourself, right, you know, these

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of moments and cooking and having a good time.

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's why, like when you're a young girl

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 2>sitting on her with her family or they're at a

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:36.760
<v Speaker 2>table like in your having moments, that's way more precious

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:40.240
<v Speaker 2>than going to a master of steakhouse to impress your friends.

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I agree with that, So you know, I became way

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 2>more family warranted and more secure with myself. But it

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 2>took a long period of time. It wasn't like something

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 2>that was just it came to me. I had to

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 2>really fight the demons of the insecurities of trying to

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 2>impress people for something that I thought I was But

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:01.280
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't. I'm a wholesome dude, right, I'm cooking tacos

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 2>And I went to there was this called like food

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:05.799
<v Speaker 2>for Less.

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Right, I saw, I saw your bag.

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it was definitely an interesting lifestyle. People like,

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, talking to me in there. They were trying

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 2>to sell me stuff in there, and I don't know

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 2>if they're trying to Yeah, I was like it was

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 2>it was different. It was different. I mean, but I'm

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 2>such a like a nice guy. I'll talk to everybody.

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 2>And I saw the one lady break out, probably her

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 2>boyfriend's class.

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I saw that.

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean she was going nuts. Do you want

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 2>to try this stuff?

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't want to try We're gonna you gotta

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 1>serve both of us up.

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:33.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm gonna do it a little differ.

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do this one.

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna try one of your flower tortillas too.

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 1>How do you end up inching into real estate? So

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>obviously there's a period where oh you're doing it for real,

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>for real.

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's funny. My girl made this comment to

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 2>my daughter. We were in bed, and she said, my

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 2>daughter's you know, like that lifestyle fourteen, and you know,

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 2>she had the Uber Eats, you know the door dash,

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 2>and she comes in like a nine o'clock She just says, Dad,

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 2>we need to get Chick fil A, right, and my

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 2>girls like chick fil A, Like haven't you ever heard

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 2>of like chips and cheese? You know, my daughter's very

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:23.319
<v Speaker 2>specific of what she wants, right, And this is how

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 2>you know we've spoiled our children when she's asking at

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 2>nine o'clock for Chick fil A, very specific. So yesterday

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 2>I went to the steakhouse fig of the chow, right,

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 2>and so my daughter hits me up, Dad, I need McDonald's. Right.

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, because we go somewhere, you need to get

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 2>something too. Like we have way more Trader Joe's in

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 2>our house than most people, right, I'm talking about we

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 2>have refrigerators. And because we go out, you need to

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 2>go out to my son. He's a little hustler. He

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:53.400
<v Speaker 2>sells stuff on eBay, He goes buys whatever. Hell, I

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 2>can't say shit to him, right, he just does. He

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 2>is the ultimate hustle. Starts a hustle name. So he

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 2>bought me these glasses. You know, he's like he's fifteen,

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 2>thinks he's going to get a Tesla for his sixteenth birthday.

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know about that one. I mean,

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 2>I want to spoil him, But at the same token,

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:11.359
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm doing a disjustice if I don't

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 2>get him a shitty car. Yeah yeah, you know, like

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I need to humble them.

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 1>But he sounds like he sounds like a hustler.

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 2>He's the biggest hustler. He hustles me. But he's a

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 2>great driver. And I think I have to punk him

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:24.879
<v Speaker 2>a little bit because he's just you know, his mom

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 2>is white, and I'm like that, you know, third world country,

0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, got here to the United States. I feel

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 2>like I got to, like, you know, kind of beat

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 2>him up a little bit, give him a little bit

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 2>of that, because this American lifestyle is like it's fake.

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 2>A lot of it's fake. I don't think there's any

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of like grass roots that really gets you to

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 2>understand culture. I think the people that in this country,

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:49.719
<v Speaker 2>the ones that that have culture are the Latins, the Asians,

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 2>the blacks, right because not talking shit about whites right

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 2>at all, because my mom's white, but white people tend

0:41:57.239 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 2>to replace their time at the tape with activities, business

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 2>TVs other bullshit, right, But you're not doing that in

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Asian culture. You're not doing that a black Try doing

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 2>that with a black culture and say, hey, mom, I'm

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna go watch TV. I'm gonna watch the Simpsons. See

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:16.880
<v Speaker 2>what ye see what mom's gonna say? Right, Latin try,

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:19.719
<v Speaker 2>I dare you see what that's gonna work work out

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:23.880
<v Speaker 2>for you? But a white person is again, my mom's white, Okay,

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 2>but you can take your food up to your bedroom

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:30.759
<v Speaker 2>and eat alone like first class, right, Like is it

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:31.360
<v Speaker 2>that true?

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know enough white people to.

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:37.799
<v Speaker 2>Know, but well I'm just saying like that, that looks good.

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>You you hooked me up. I like it with the

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:40.360
<v Speaker 1>cheese melted.

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 2>No, no, we're gonna get you to this.

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:46.240
<v Speaker 1>So when does real estate come into play?

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know when real estate came to play because

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:53.839
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get more mortgage brokers to come work

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 2>for me.

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, this is after you're broke, After you go broke,

0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:58.399
<v Speaker 1>you get into estate.

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 2>No, this was before okay, okay, so this is how

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I started segreating into it. So the story is kind

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 2>of like choppy, but it's it's there. Right, that's a

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 2>little bit of add from me. So in my mortgage days,

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 2>I was meeting all these real estate agents right to

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 2>work with our company to you know, get their clients.

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 2>The real estate agents have clients obviously they have mortgages,

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:20.440
<v Speaker 2>and you know, trying to get them on board with

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 2>our retail center, right because I had wholesale and I

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:23.280
<v Speaker 2>had retail.

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Do you have to turn off those stoves?

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's it. One's offer here. Yeah, don't burn yourself. No, No,

0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:32.440
<v Speaker 2>it's good, it's good. It's good. We got insurance. So

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 2>this is what happened, right, The retail mortgage loan officers

0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 2>were not getting enough from their real estate agents. So

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 2>I had a partner that you know, God rests in

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 2>peace for him, and only he died. But he he said, ty,

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 2>why don't I do all the mortgages and you go

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 2>out there and become a real estate agent and but

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 2>not really sell properties. Go to every real estate firm,

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 2>meet all the real estate agents and have them send

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 2>me business, take them, take them out to wine and

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:03.919
<v Speaker 2>dine them and show them a lifestyle because you're still

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 2>getting half of my money, and go be the secret agent.

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:09.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's that's what I was. I went to the

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 2>col world bankers, the remaxes, you know, the executive real

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 2>estate companies, and I went and did all the meetings

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 2>and you know, the tour, the tours of the buildings

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 2>and general managers, and I would go take them out

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 2>for lunches and say, hey, I got this really great.

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, loan officer Nolan Nelson is amazing. You should

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 2>really use them. You should just call them here, just

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 2>call them. And then hey, hey, Nolan, take this take

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:36.320
<v Speaker 2>this girl out. You know, she likes horses and stuff,

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever she likes going out and dancing. Take her. So

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 2>we would schmooz people, and I wouldn't even do business.

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 2>I would just schmooze people for a living, right because

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:46.239
<v Speaker 2>I was still making it crazy money. I still have

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 2>my Mercedes and all this crazy lifestyle. And before you

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 2>know it, I'm starting to get business. I'm like real estate, Okay, cool,

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 2>now you're getting Now I'm really double dipping here. So

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.400
<v Speaker 2>now I'm really double dipping. And I got my first

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 2>deal and I'm selling this guy a property. Francis Verrillo,

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 2>what was his name? And Julio Julio, I can't Julio.

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure his name was. But I sold two

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 2>of the properties or painters, and you know, they used

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 2>our mortage company, and I just didn't realize, like how

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 2>easy this was. I'm like, real estate, this is dune.

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 2>This is like show property. Rite a contract. You know,

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:27.239
<v Speaker 2>even in my first contract ever even wrote I put

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:30.359
<v Speaker 2>the wrong address. I'm like, God, I sold the house

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:33.399
<v Speaker 2>next door. Thank God the APN number was right on

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 2>that contract because the address was wrong.

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious.

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:38.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I sold the property next door and they

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 2>signed off on it. This is crazy. Might ensued, right,

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:44.759
<v Speaker 2>I was freaking So my real estate experience has not

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 2>been easy. The fact that I'm even good at it,

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, boggles me. But I'm actually not even good.

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually a guru probably at this point because I've

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:54.680
<v Speaker 2>already went through the trials and tribulations of you know,

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:59.759
<v Speaker 2>the chaos. But you know, I always had multiple incomes

0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 2>from that real estate from when I got into real estate,

0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 2>to the mortgage side to the wholesale side. You know,

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 2>I've done fairly well. That's why I could always go

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 2>from one or the other, or or or dibbled out

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 2>in both this day and age. I don't do anything

0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:15.799
<v Speaker 2>with mortgages other than you know, as long as they

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 2>give a good customer service, I'm cool with it. I

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 2>stick in one and one genre, which is just the

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:28.319
<v Speaker 2>real estate and luxury and you know my clientele. Mmm good,

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:31.720
<v Speaker 2>m hm. You don't really like onions.

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Though, No, but you know what, I've just been into one.

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad. I put very little onions. Let us do?

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Did you put lettus?

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 2>No? But I'm hungry, so I eat everything. I'm not

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 2>really much of a complaint.

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Avocado avocado right here?

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you got to hook it up, bro Well,

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean listen, I was grabbing the the onions. I

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 2>was grabbing the hot, the hot halapenos.

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:55.920
<v Speaker 1>You can never go wrong being broke and eating tacos.

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 1>This is amazing. And you know what, the hot sauce does.

0:46:59.440 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Help.

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Should put more hot sauce and mustards.

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:05.439
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's that broke trick right there, when you got avocado.

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 1>On the tacola bomb. I don't even think I do

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 1>that ever in real life.

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Really, they're so bomb. You you that sugar and lemon?

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you know what, I have a sugar You

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 1>know how people like alcohol and drugs. My advice is

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 1>sugar like there's a TwixT in my car right now?

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Really like, please you just don't go down there and

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 1>eat it?

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 2>We do like paper oxylity, who gets up? Boom?

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Where does Loving Listings come in to play?

0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Hmm?

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Love just Taco is so good everyone, I'm gonna eat

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. Well, you're hungry too, Oh, I'm hungry

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:52.120
<v Speaker 1>all right, go on.

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Love en Listings right mm hmm. I worked with so

0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 2>many rappers people in the entertainment industry that I decided

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 2>to grab myself home. I'm just filmed bits and pieces

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 2>of it and after a while looking at the foot

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, this looks like it could be a show,

0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 2>said Cribs. You know, no one was doing what I

0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 2>was doing.

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Before all the other real estate shows start piling in.

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:23.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean there was Cribs, but yeah, I mean I

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 2>was definitely pioneering it before the selling sound says. But

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 2>the problem is they didn't show like the million doi

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:36.400
<v Speaker 2>listening was out there, but it didn't show the diversity

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:42.399
<v Speaker 2>that the Jamaicans, right, the Blacks, the Latins that had

0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 2>money too, that were buying all these properties. They showed

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 2>the millionarire listenings that were showing you saw the white people,

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:55.719
<v Speaker 2>and you saw that they had a specific you know,

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 2>client sele that were wealthy, but you never saw the

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 2>culture people have money. So you know, what does that

0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 2>say to our kids that blacks don't have money, Asians

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:07.120
<v Speaker 2>don't have money? What is that? I mean, there's crazy

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 2>rich Asians that came way further, you know, later in

0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:13.839
<v Speaker 2>the process. But I saw there was a need for it.

0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:17.719
<v Speaker 2>So I started filming stuff and I used rappers that

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I was friends with as a gateway because they were

0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 2>buying and renting houses for extraordinarily high price, right because

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:29.640
<v Speaker 2>they were underprivileged, underserved, and when they wanted it, they

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:32.239
<v Speaker 2>wanted it. They wanted it because no one ever gave

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 2>them the opportunity to have it. So for me, I

0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 2>was that guy that said, hey, why don't we, you know,

0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:43.920
<v Speaker 2>get them a better deal as opposed to because this

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:47.120
<v Speaker 2>is a culture of rappers. I want it. I'm gonna

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 2>spend that money and don't even negotiate price.

0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:51.839
<v Speaker 1>I've I've noticed that they don't negotiate at all.

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Huh, they don't. They just want it right because it's

0:49:54.400 --> 0:49:57.479
<v Speaker 2>they just it's it's something they want. So I always

0:49:57.520 --> 0:49:57.919
<v Speaker 2>came out.

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Most of these rappers act like street You would think

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:02.279
<v Speaker 1>they would think to negotiate.

0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:06.000
<v Speaker 2>No, because it's a flex. But how much that flex?

0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:08.040
<v Speaker 2>How many shows do you have to do? You know

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:11.840
<v Speaker 2>for that flex? So you know I always treated everybody

0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 2>fairly and said let's do this price. Let's do it

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 2>that price, right, you know, Rockstar. I did his house right.

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:19.359
<v Speaker 2>I door knocked on that. He said time, I want

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:21.400
<v Speaker 2>to be in this area, very very predominant. Are he

0:50:21.480 --> 0:50:22.720
<v Speaker 2>lives in Chatsworth.

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I know because he's friends with one of my friends.

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I door knocked on that house and I

0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:28.479
<v Speaker 2>negotiated it and we got him the house.

0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:29.440
<v Speaker 1>You door knocked it.

0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I door knocked it because he said time I want

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:33.960
<v Speaker 2>to be in the area. So and you'll tell you like,

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm that guy like I'll look out for people. If

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 2>you want it, I'll figure it out.

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 1>That is actually everyone that I know that knows you,

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:44.239
<v Speaker 1>handful of people, literally handful, they've all said the same

0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:48.520
<v Speaker 1>thing about you. And I met you within five seconds

0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and I felt it. So I was like, oh okay,

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.719
<v Speaker 1>because we met and then you were like, hey, this

0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 1>is you know, equality is a big thing for me.

0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, my dad's Asian, My mom's wife. And because

0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I look a certain way, I have certain benefits, but

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 2>when I'm with my dad, he doesn't have the same benefits.

0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:12.200
<v Speaker 2>So it's always really important to see that people get

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:16.799
<v Speaker 2>treated correctly and honestly, because at the end of the day,

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 2>regardless of their skin color and the money that they

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:25.200
<v Speaker 2>have in their bank account, they deserve to be respected

0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and be treated fairly. And that's the problem society. So

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:32.400
<v Speaker 2>I carved out a lane, you know, for something that

0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 2>I believe would be a hit, you know, which was

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:35.360
<v Speaker 2>love and Listenings.

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:37.319
<v Speaker 1>And how hard was it to sell the show?

0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:41.279
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't wasn't that hard. It was more about who

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:44.440
<v Speaker 2>did I know to get me to the place that

0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:47.800
<v Speaker 2>I needed to go right And just like the cameraman

0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that's here now, I said, you always have to have

0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:53.560
<v Speaker 2>one good person that wants to see you win, and

0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 2>to utilize that person, to keep on doing good to

0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:58.000
<v Speaker 2>that person, to utilize that to go to the next

0:51:58.000 --> 0:51:59.719
<v Speaker 2>place is that you need to go. It's playing chess.

0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:04.239
<v Speaker 2>So because I studied so much psychology, I understand you

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:06.880
<v Speaker 2>know what one person can do. If say calling you

0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:09.759
<v Speaker 2>know ten people and you know the head of Netflix,

0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I might have a conversation with you saying, well, what

0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:14.400
<v Speaker 2>would you think about this product? Could you take it

0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:17.839
<v Speaker 2>to Ted Surranders? Right? And you know, can you find

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:19.319
<v Speaker 2>out I would ask you the questions to see if

0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:22.719
<v Speaker 2>you would do it, you know, but it's very important

0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:25.800
<v Speaker 2>to understand, you know, the value of each person. Everybody

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.839
<v Speaker 2>has value, and I think that a lot of people

0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 2>don't utilize it like the way they should. I'm just

0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:32.200
<v Speaker 2>a master at it.

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I like too that you said that find

0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:40.040
<v Speaker 1>find some of that wants to see you win. And

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:42.120
<v Speaker 1>then I feel like that's when it comes to like

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:45.480
<v Speaker 1>all my mentors, a lot of my relationships, you know,

0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've been very blessed and fortunate to

0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:52.000
<v Speaker 1>have like a group that wants to see you win,

0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:54.560
<v Speaker 1>but just an amazing group of people I've been. I

0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:57.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know, God just keeps a blessing me.

0:52:57.640 --> 0:52:59.480
<v Speaker 2>We have to ask a lot of questions too, you know,

0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 2>for yourself, like where do you do a show? Right?

0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:05.040
<v Speaker 2>But where's this show going to be honest? Is gonna

0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:08.120
<v Speaker 2>be like a major network, the Food Network? And who

0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:12.160
<v Speaker 2>knows the executive from the Food Network? Right, Like I

0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:15.120
<v Speaker 2>know that Samuel Jackson's daughter ran the Food Network.

0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that and I know that fact.

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you know, and you have to know, like, okay,

0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:23.000
<v Speaker 2>so who knows. I know Stevie Wonders good friends with

0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Samuel Jackson. I know I know Stevie Ander's wife. So

0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 2>you have to like put these things into the atmosphere.

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:31.240
<v Speaker 2>How you're going to actually accomplish that goal. Most people

0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:34.360
<v Speaker 2>do not do that, right. People forget goals, right. We

0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:38.160
<v Speaker 2>have schedules, but we don't have goals right. So it's

0:53:38.200 --> 0:53:42.520
<v Speaker 2>important to really put your goals together and accomplish it.

0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:45.160
<v Speaker 2>So going back to the show stuff, I did all

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:47.840
<v Speaker 2>the leg work right. I cast the show, I shot

0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:51.080
<v Speaker 2>part of it, had a very amazing partner that was

0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:53.760
<v Speaker 2>blessed to come help me and actually produce the stuff.

0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 2>He was actually one of the first creators of the

0:53:57.640 --> 0:54:01.279
<v Speaker 2>Zeus Network, which was called the Black Box, Sean Matthews.

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:04.960
<v Speaker 1>And oh he's one of the founding creators of that was.

0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:08.319
<v Speaker 2>For l PM Media, which was Lemmy's company. I mean,

0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Lemmy has done amazing with you know, with Zeus Network.

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:13.960
<v Speaker 2>When no one believed in him. He believed in himself.

0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:16.919
<v Speaker 2>Whether I like him or not, you have to give

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:20.040
<v Speaker 2>him credit. For what he's done, you know, and he's

0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 2>living his best life. He manifested that he created it

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:25.920
<v Speaker 2>and he's staying with it. So going back to the

0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:29.040
<v Speaker 2>show that I was doing, it's something that I had

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:33.759
<v Speaker 2>a vision and I believed more than anybody. Anything that

0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:35.320
<v Speaker 2>you want to do in life, you have to believe

0:54:35.360 --> 0:54:40.000
<v Speaker 2>it as if you already achieved it. From achievement, you

0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:42.719
<v Speaker 2>go reverse, Now that I already have it, how do

0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:44.839
<v Speaker 2>you go back? What did all the steps that you

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:47.359
<v Speaker 2>had to do to get to that achievement? And then

0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:49.680
<v Speaker 2>once you get to the last step, which is where

0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:51.920
<v Speaker 2>you're at now, now you can move forward. Now you

0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:55.360
<v Speaker 2>have a business plan and that's my secrets, right. And

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<v Speaker 2>I have a show that I just shot for NBC Universal.

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<v Speaker 2>It hasn't in greenlit yet, but I'm pretty sure it

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<v Speaker 2>will be because it's such a great concept and we

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<v Speaker 2>feel really good about it. But you know, these are

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<v Speaker 2>just small things. It's like, it's not necessarily do I

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<v Speaker 2>think that that that they're the best ideas. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>that I believe in it more than most.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, well yeah, well what can we be looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to coming from you? I know, it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>like you want to open up too much about this

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<v Speaker 1>new show that's going to be greenlit. It's another real

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<v Speaker 1>estate shows, another real estate show. So you're still doing

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<v Speaker 1>real estate. You're still doing television production.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't really tell people I do so

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<v Speaker 2>much producing. You know, I have made quite a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of impact and made money.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a hobby to me. Okay, not my career.

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<v Speaker 1>But your career is just strictly real estate.

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<v Speaker 2>Strictly real estate. So anything that's tied to real estate,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's TV or building houses, just I'm a real

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<v Speaker 2>estate professional.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I like going on your stories and seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>houses and all that. If you guys want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>up with tie, go ahead tell them how to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram socials, no, just really just Instagram. I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>have a Twitter, barely use it, but three ten agent,

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<v Speaker 2>three one O agent.

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<v Speaker 1>That's me, three old agent.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't got very many pictures. I got seven. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know I don't post any of the celebrities i'm with.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you know, I would say this right in closing

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<v Speaker 2>to this. You know, everybody is a celebrity right in

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<v Speaker 2>their own head, but really make sure you put the

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<v Speaker 2>foundation for yourself make sure that you're being purposeful in

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<v Speaker 2>your life, and if you have a dream, make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that you head towards that dream and do it with

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<v Speaker 2>the right intentions. That's it, That's what a real celebrity is.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you heard it here first on Eating

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