1
00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,520
Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

2
00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have Ties

3
00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,520
Speaker 1: of vot in the Building, creator of Loving Listenings on

4
00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,840
Speaker 1: v H one, and founder of Agents in La, Agents

5
00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:32,159
Speaker 1: of La of La. My bad. I'm sorry, I'm starving.

6
00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,680
Speaker 1: It's noon over here and we have a table full

7
00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,920
Speaker 1: of food and I'm dying to know what you're gonna

8
00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,680
Speaker 1: have me eating while you're broke. But where you're gonna

9
00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:44,720
Speaker 1: have me eating today.

10
00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,640
Speaker 2: Well, we don't have organic turkey, but we are going

11
00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:50,599
Speaker 2: to do some tacos.

12
00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna do tacos. Everyone loves tacos. And what I

13
00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,920
Speaker 1: like about tai guys, just so you know is I

14
00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,240
Speaker 1: was trying not to bother you and text you too much.

15
00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,240
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, you're doing tacos, Like what are

16
00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,240
Speaker 1: the ingredients? And I didn't want to pester you, so

17
00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:06,959
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'll just I'll just

18
00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,200
Speaker 1: get typical taco ingredients. But Ty was really cool. He

19
00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,600
Speaker 1: was like, you're you're missing a couple of things. I'm

20
00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,120
Speaker 1: gonna go shop and I'm gonna I'm gonna bring the

21
00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,960
Speaker 1: missing ingredients for you, So go ahead, tell us what

22
00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,160
Speaker 1: the ingredients are for today's tacos.

23
00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,639
Speaker 2: Well, we got the onions, obviously, every good taco has

24
00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,240
Speaker 2: a little sprinkle onions. And then we have these peppers,

25
00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,399
Speaker 2: you know, I mean I like everything spicy, obviously that

26
00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm tie and you know I love all the different

27
00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,680
Speaker 2: kinds of pepper types, ghost peppers, you know, to tie

28
00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,040
Speaker 2: chili peppers. So I had to bring that to bring

29
00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,160
Speaker 2: the fire avocado, right, okay, I mean that's just like

30
00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:44,679
Speaker 2: that boogie.

31
00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that you were eating avocado when you were broke.

32
00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,320
Speaker 2: Though I think I was picking picking them up from

33
00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,480
Speaker 2: the trees. But my dad had them all right, So I.

34
00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,240
Speaker 1: Was like, okay, okay, I could I could respect that

35
00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,960
Speaker 1: with the taco shells, the lettuce, the cheese, the salt,

36
00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,000
Speaker 1: so all of it hrking me hot sauce. I love

37
00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,480
Speaker 1: that you brought these hot sauce packets and you were

38
00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,920
Speaker 1: like really gunn hull about them.

39
00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you get these things for like free taco bell.

40
00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,040
Speaker 1: Right, not anymore though? Don't they charge?

41
00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean there's teenagers working there.

42
00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,600
Speaker 1: They give them, you know, when I go and I'm like,

43
00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,120
Speaker 1: can I get an extra answer? Like you need to

44
00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,320
Speaker 1: order five more nuggets for that.

45
00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, where are you going?

46
00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,080
Speaker 1: I haven't done it, but every once in a while

47
00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,519
Speaker 1: it happens to me. It's like when I go to

48
00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,720
Speaker 1: grocery store and they charge you five cents for a bag.

49
00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,919
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Infury furiates me. I'm like, yo,

50
00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,959
Speaker 1: are you really counting the bags?

51
00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,639
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's that stupid law right where the

52
00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,480
Speaker 2: recycle law where they have to like tax everything. I mean,

53
00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,240
Speaker 2: well maybe that's just another tax law, right.

54
00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:46,640
Speaker 1: I don't is it a real law or is it

55
00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,440
Speaker 1: just they're trying to make some money. California being California

56
00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,399
Speaker 1: is the only city there.

57
00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, we we have a lot to say about that.

58
00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,560
Speaker 1: But I tell people all the time in California, you're

59
00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,360
Speaker 1: just paying for the weather. You're playing a premium for

60
00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,440
Speaker 1: the weather, are we them?

61
00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,200
Speaker 2: Because it's just like some like who bunch of seating

62
00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,200
Speaker 2: in the clouds and.

63
00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,160
Speaker 1: I like the weather every there's no other city that

64
00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,600
Speaker 1: compares weatherwise.

65
00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:12,400
Speaker 2: I mean, is consistently. I feel like, because yeah, that's

66
00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:13,120
Speaker 2: a whole other topic.

67
00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,520
Speaker 1: That's a whole other topic. So go ahead, start cooking

68
00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,280
Speaker 1: up this dish, and while you're cooking. Take me back

69
00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,959
Speaker 1: to what was going on in the days of there's

70
00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,160
Speaker 1: a lot of things going on. Oh, you know what.

71
00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,920
Speaker 1: The first two knobs are your the knobs you're cooking on.

72
00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,000
Speaker 2: You know what the problem is? Guys all guys, well,

73
00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,360
Speaker 2: well understand this. We try to cook things as fast

74
00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,600
Speaker 2: as possible. Okay, women, everything is like xanax, right, everything

75
00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,000
Speaker 2: is like so relaxed. I'm goen I have a good time.

76
00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,680
Speaker 2: But guys, it's high and cook the ship fast.

77
00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,800
Speaker 1: Okay, that's good because I'm starving. Cook it, don't burn it.

78
00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,120
Speaker 2: And then for us, all right, cool, good.

79
00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,480
Speaker 1: And then this is electric Okay, you got.

80
00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,560
Speaker 2: It, all right.

81
00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,960
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming that these tacos was a staple at

82
00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,920
Speaker 1: some period in your life. Take me back to what

83
00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,920
Speaker 1: was going on during this the taco bell tie phase

84
00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:07,520
Speaker 1: of your life.

85
00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,800
Speaker 2: I mean, there's been a few times in my life

86
00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,680
Speaker 2: right where you know, you overspend and you want to

87
00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,000
Speaker 2: you want to keep up with the Joneses, right, So

88
00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,159
Speaker 2: keeping up with the Joneses, it's like a certain kind

89
00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,960
Speaker 2: of attire. You have to dress in a certain kind

90
00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,800
Speaker 2: of facade. You have to keep up. And in that

91
00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,760
Speaker 2: it's if you don't have the foundation right built out.

92
00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,880
Speaker 2: You know you can go broken then, right. So I

93
00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:40,440
Speaker 2: have had many times in my life where I've had

94
00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,040
Speaker 2: my ego getting the way and I've purchased bigger items

95
00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,240
Speaker 2: than I probably could afford it. Right, I've always had

96
00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,599
Speaker 2: really nice things, nice houses, brand new, nice cars. I

97
00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,960
Speaker 2: mean right now, I think I've had over thirty five

98
00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,720
Speaker 2: different kind of cars. Wow. You know I've probably spent

99
00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,719
Speaker 2: maybe over a million dollars in cars.

100
00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:00,480
Speaker 1: Wow.

101
00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people can't say that now.

102
00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,880
Speaker 1: But take me back to your home life, like you're

103
00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,400
Speaker 1: growing up prior to all of this middle class.

104
00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:13,440
Speaker 2: Rich Okay, so this is the thing, right, home life.

105
00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:19,280
Speaker 2: My grandfather and my father are from Thailand, right from

106
00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,520
Speaker 2: a third world country, and they came over to the

107
00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,000
Speaker 2: States and where they met my mom. Right. My dad

108
00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,880
Speaker 2: and very modest. My family in Thailand is very predominant,

109
00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,680
Speaker 2: but my dad did not like the politics and decided

110
00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,000
Speaker 2: that he wanted to live a very humble life and

111
00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,280
Speaker 2: so moved out to the valley where he met my mom. Right.

112
00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:46,200
Speaker 2: My mom also had humble upbringings, but my grandfather on

113
00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,839
Speaker 2: my mother's side did inherit quite a bit, but she

114
00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,960
Speaker 2: never ever took anything from her family. So we have

115
00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,920
Speaker 2: two individuals that had you know, these these prides that

116
00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,240
Speaker 2: wanted to do things everything by themselves, right. So it

117
00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,280
Speaker 2: was always that you know, if I take some with

118
00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,880
Speaker 2: my family, then I owe them something, right. So my

119
00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:13,160
Speaker 2: mom struggled. She had my sister, my oldest brother, my

120
00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,560
Speaker 2: well I'm the middle, I guess, my older brother. So

121
00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,960
Speaker 2: there's four kids essentially, right, So she struggled to try

122
00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,080
Speaker 2: to raise us. She had multiple husbands that failed, and

123
00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,960
Speaker 2: you know, just trying to make ends meets right, and

124
00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,720
Speaker 2: then you know, meeting after meeting my dad. You know,

125
00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,880
Speaker 2: my dad was very frugal with money, you know, because

126
00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,200
Speaker 2: he didn't have anybody to call, right, He wasn't calling

127
00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,719
Speaker 2: back in Thailand and Mom, can I borrow some money?

128
00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,600
Speaker 2: None of that stuff. So he worked as a bartender

129
00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,080
Speaker 2: and which was not like a very noble job, right,

130
00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,279
Speaker 2: but he saved up enough money to buy a piece

131
00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,000
Speaker 2: of real estate. And he bought that first piece was

132
00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,520
Speaker 2: an eleven unit, you know, which I don't even know

133
00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,320
Speaker 2: how he did this, but what he did was, which

134
00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,320
Speaker 2: was super cool, is he bought these pieces of real

135
00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,839
Speaker 2: estate from I want to say, like Palm dar l

136
00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,200
Speaker 2: Lancaster pulled them out of the ground, right and cut

137
00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,880
Speaker 2: them in half and then moved him actually in I

138
00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,840
Speaker 2: want to say our Leita, California, so eleven years.

139
00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:13,920
Speaker 1: Give me he really uprooted it.

140
00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, First off, how do you think about that?

141
00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,000
Speaker 2: How do you do that stuff?

142
00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,000
Speaker 1: Like hey, on a whole other level?

143
00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,800
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's really cool. I'm

144
00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,960
Speaker 2: not trying to burn this but no, no.

145
00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean each fire is low. It seems maybe it's

146
00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:27,120
Speaker 1: just the.

147
00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to make it.

148
00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,160
Speaker 1: Out of it, because your story is really interesting. So

149
00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,080
Speaker 1: your mom had the kid, the four kids after him,

150
00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,120
Speaker 1: or there was this after after him.

151
00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,160
Speaker 2: But I'm just kind of giving a little bit of backstory.

152
00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,280
Speaker 2: You know who my mom is. It's not like she's

153
00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,240
Speaker 2: taking money from our family. You know, my dad hasn't

154
00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,120
Speaker 2: taken any money from the family, so you know, they

155
00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,560
Speaker 2: really had to do it themselves.

156
00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,960
Speaker 1: And did you guys know it growing up? That's your

157
00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,920
Speaker 1: your relatives had money. Was it kind of frustrating a

158
00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,160
Speaker 1: little bit at times? Or no?

159
00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,720
Speaker 2: You know what, when you have a certain amount of love,

160
00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,360
Speaker 2: money can't replace it, right, So you on a homework

161
00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,800
Speaker 2: cart by the way probably, yeah, but it's just how

162
00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:08,280
Speaker 2: I feel.

163
00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,200
Speaker 1: So no, that was beautiful. That was like the most

164
00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,960
Speaker 1: beautiful sentence ever.

165
00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,240
Speaker 2: You know, when your daughter looks at you and gives

166
00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,960
Speaker 2: you a hug. You know, yes, sure it's great that

167
00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,000
Speaker 2: you bought the brand new bike, but that hug that

168
00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,200
Speaker 2: as apparently you feel that you know, it means more

169
00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,560
Speaker 2: than the bike. Mom. If you can afford it, you know,

170
00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,320
Speaker 2: that's amazing. But your love is always going to cover

171
00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,520
Speaker 2: me and everything that I need. Right, And you know,

172
00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,760
Speaker 2: it reminds me of that story obviously with the Ukrainian

173
00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,079
Speaker 2: War and a lot of these politics that you know

174
00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,120
Speaker 2: we're seeing with this war. Right, And there was this

175
00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,560
Speaker 2: this starving child right with her mom and she she

176
00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,679
Speaker 2: must have been like seven or eight years old, and

177
00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,520
Speaker 2: her mom was in the background. They were doing an interview,

178
00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,640
Speaker 2: and she told the cameras that she doesn't want to

179
00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,080
Speaker 2: upset her mom and that she doesn't want her to

180
00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,280
Speaker 2: feel the pain that she's suffering, and that even though

181
00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,480
Speaker 2: her stomach was growling right, growling, she said that she

182
00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,760
Speaker 2: didn't want her mom to suffer. Okay, a little girls

183
00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,160
Speaker 2: did that? You know. So when I see stories and

184
00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,600
Speaker 2: hear stories about that kind of stuff, you know, purity

185
00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,160
Speaker 2: children that really look after us versus we looking after them.

186
00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,439
Speaker 2: You know. That's why it's so important to really make

187
00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,720
Speaker 2: sure we take care of our children and never have

188
00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,760
Speaker 2: them suffer. But it's so sad to see that the

189
00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,640
Speaker 2: child was taking care of her parent and because the mom,

190
00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,200
Speaker 2: the mother felt so bad that she could not, you know,

191
00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,000
Speaker 2: get her daughter food because you know, when they were

192
00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,280
Speaker 2: trying to get food for the daughter, they were blowing

193
00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,079
Speaker 2: up people. And this was in the Middle East, right,

194
00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,880
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to pick sides, but regardless, anytimes

195
00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,400
Speaker 2: there's kids involved and a mother involved, you know, there

196
00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,280
Speaker 2: is no sides to me. There's what's right and what's

197
00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,640
Speaker 2: wrong exactly. And it was just very disheartening that we

198
00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,400
Speaker 2: would even do that. And it makes you it makes

199
00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,360
Speaker 2: you think that, you know, love is so beautiful and

200
00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,360
Speaker 2: it fills your soul and it fills your gut right

201
00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,839
Speaker 2: with everything you might need, you know. So that's probably

202
00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:02,760
Speaker 2: the best meal you could ever have.

203
00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So you're going back to your dad uprooting

204
00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,160
Speaker 1: these buildings. You were you were how old when you

205
00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,920
Speaker 1: witnessed this whole endeavor?

206
00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,280
Speaker 2: You know to which part I mean I mean there's

207
00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,880
Speaker 2: certain parts of my childhood that for some reason it's

208
00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,319
Speaker 2: just really unclear. My mom got through it, got through

209
00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,120
Speaker 2: a divorce with my father. My father was cheating on her,

210
00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,000
Speaker 2: which probably most men do. Yeah, why you say that?

211
00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:38,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, shout out to my husband. He knows that,

212
00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,240
Speaker 1: he knows that I talk smack. But yeah, yeah, yeah,

213
00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,520
Speaker 1: shout outs to him. He gave me the four one

214
00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:44,360
Speaker 1: one education.

215
00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,160
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know.

216
00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, so he cheated and then your mom

217
00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:49,520
Speaker 1: was like I'm out.

218
00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom is out. I mean it's I think

219
00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,480
Speaker 2: it's different back in the day, and maybe it's not.

220
00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:56,920
Speaker 2: I mean, at first of I don't want to get

221
00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,320
Speaker 2: smack right now. So you know, there's needs and there's

222
00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,240
Speaker 2: a lot of like anxiety when especially when you don't

223
00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,280
Speaker 2: have the money that you you know, you see all

224
00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,960
Speaker 2: your friends have, right, So like sometimes there's an escape,

225
00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,679
Speaker 2: like me say, me and you, right, you know, we're

226
00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,000
Speaker 2: in a relationship, we have we have kids, and you

227
00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:22,440
Speaker 2: know maybe that we're fighting so much that we tend

228
00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,480
Speaker 2: to forget about us, right, and we have to stress

229
00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,440
Speaker 2: because what are the stress? Stress is really about not

230
00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,080
Speaker 2: providing for your children. Yeah, so it was it was

231
00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,880
Speaker 2: a lot. I think for my mom, you know, it

232
00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,240
Speaker 2: was there were two struggling young, you know, individuals that

233
00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,520
Speaker 2: were trying to provide for their kids. And I think

234
00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,800
Speaker 2: my grandmother and you know, and his mom had money,

235
00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,200
Speaker 2: but no one was helping out and they were staying

236
00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,920
Speaker 2: out of it obviously in any kind of relationship. So,

237
00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,800
Speaker 2: you know, I think by my dad had the intentions

238
00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,280
Speaker 2: to find somebody else and not to deal with that right,

239
00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,000
Speaker 2: which is definitely not the right way, because you know,

240
00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,079
Speaker 2: I was one of the kids, you know, that had

241
00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,120
Speaker 2: the experience that it's it's you know, there's no right

242
00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,520
Speaker 2: or wrong, there's just a lesson right. And I think

243
00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,400
Speaker 2: we all take inside, especially the children, we're kind of

244
00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,600
Speaker 2: like these sponges that really just absorb it all and

245
00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,440
Speaker 2: it's it's kind of it's sad that it happens like that.

246
00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,679
Speaker 2: You know, it's not just putting food on the table

247
00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,599
Speaker 2: for your kids, but it's obviously the missing love that

248
00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,480
Speaker 2: you should probably should have had. Yeah, and just because

249
00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,839
Speaker 2: you feed, you know, your family, doesn't mean it's the

250
00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,360
Speaker 2: same as loving your family. So there's there's different things

251
00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:35,079
Speaker 2: in my life that I've experienced and I don't regret

252
00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,720
Speaker 2: any of it, you know, because what I do think

253
00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,840
Speaker 2: is that it's taught me a lesson. It depends on

254
00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,560
Speaker 2: each individual if you're willing to understand that lesson. Right, So,

255
00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,240
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a very big believer in the Bible

256
00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,520
Speaker 2: and reading stories that can resonate with myself. I don't

257
00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,320
Speaker 2: believe in pushing it. But if those stories resonate with

258
00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,040
Speaker 2: you and you learn something from it, then maybe you

259
00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,000
Speaker 2: can utilize it in your life. That was kind of deep,

260
00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, real deep.

261
00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:06,360
Speaker 1: So so I'm trying to get back to your So

262
00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,720
Speaker 1: your father starts this endeavor in real estate, because I

263
00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,560
Speaker 1: sure you and you know your whole most of your

264
00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,120
Speaker 1: resume is in real estate and production. But I'm curious

265
00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,880
Speaker 1: to know how this realest him getting into real estate

266
00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,600
Speaker 1: impacted your journey.

267
00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,240
Speaker 2: Well, it's not just my father, it's I think my

268
00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,880
Speaker 2: whole family has been into real estate. My grandmother worked

269
00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,440
Speaker 2: in real estate, buying and selling houses at an early age.

270
00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,760
Speaker 2: She worked at I think Centray twenty one when they

271
00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,360
Speaker 2: first opened, right probably, I don't even know, it's in

272
00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,600
Speaker 2: the sixties. And you know she she loved real estate.

273
00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,640
Speaker 2: My father, you know, saw that that you can make

274
00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,880
Speaker 2: money off of tenants. And you know, this is the

275
00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,680
Speaker 2: thing about immigrants, right, My dad was an immigrant. I'm

276
00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,240
Speaker 2: a I'm a TI citizen, an American citizen, so I

277
00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,800
Speaker 2: have to have a certain appreciation for the hustle that

278
00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,959
Speaker 2: immigrants have in this country, right. Yeah, And you know

279
00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,120
Speaker 2: for what he did to work as a bartender and

280
00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:14,880
Speaker 2: to make millions off of real estate, right and getting

281
00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,560
Speaker 2: a piece of that American dream, right and without an ego,

282
00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,360
Speaker 2: I have a lot of respect for that. So you know,

283
00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,480
Speaker 2: as a as a kid growing up, I worked in

284
00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,160
Speaker 2: real estate, but not through the same conventional ways that

285
00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:34,120
Speaker 2: they did, right. I worked in a bank, not by choice.

286
00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,920
Speaker 2: There was a girl I was dating and the dad

287
00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,320
Speaker 2: wanted to kick my ass and he said, you're coming

288
00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,520
Speaker 2: to work with me every day. So that's exactly how

289
00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:43,480
Speaker 2: I got into real estate.

290
00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,080
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Well that's how you got into real estate,

291
00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,680
Speaker 1: or into banking real.

292
00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,480
Speaker 2: Estate, real estate because it was a mortgage bank.

293
00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,480
Speaker 1: It was a mortgage bank, so you don't like home loans.

294
00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,360
Speaker 2: Home loans, So this guy wanted to kick my ass

295
00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,600
Speaker 2: because no, it wasn't really an offer of a job.

296
00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,440
Speaker 2: It was more like if you keep on dating my daughter,

297
00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,080
Speaker 2: that's you know, sneaking out of her house after you know,

298
00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,680
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock a night, coming to my house. I'm gonna go,

299
00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,240
Speaker 2: you know, break your teeth. So he lived down the street.

300
00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,600
Speaker 2: This guy had a Hummer, you know, Lotus and Mercedes

301
00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,040
Speaker 2: and all the fancy cars. And he also had this

302
00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,280
Speaker 2: daughter that looked like Christina Agilera. Right, So me having

303
00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,680
Speaker 2: you know, the hormones I had, I'm like, I'm gonna

304
00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,160
Speaker 2: pull that. And sure enough, you know, she was walking

305
00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,320
Speaker 2: down the street with her her brother one time and

306
00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,880
Speaker 2: you know, did what I do and just spit the game,

307
00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:35,920
Speaker 2: and next thing you know, she was sneaking out.

308
00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,480
Speaker 1: Yep. And then daddy came for you.

309
00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,600
Speaker 2: Daddy came for me, and he basically went to my mother,

310
00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,200
Speaker 2: my mother, and she he said that, yeah, I heard

311
00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,360
Speaker 2: your son is sleeping with my daughter, and yeah, that's

312
00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,320
Speaker 2: gonna be a problem, and like Italian mafioso kind of

313
00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,600
Speaker 2: looking dude. And my mom called me right on my

314
00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,840
Speaker 2: Nokia right that the phone, yeah exactly, and said, ty,

315
00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,320
Speaker 2: I don't think you should come home. I'm like, come home?

316
00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,200
Speaker 2: What do you mean? She says? Yeah, This guy says

317
00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,240
Speaker 2: you're hooking up with his daughter, and yeah, he's pretty upset.

318
00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,080
Speaker 2: So my mom had to negotiate the terms. And I

319
00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,880
Speaker 2: was going to go to work with this guy every

320
00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,120
Speaker 2: single day so that he could pay attention to who

321
00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,880
Speaker 2: I was and what I was doing with my life.

322
00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:24,880
Speaker 1: How old were you at the time.

323
00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,400
Speaker 2: I was I nineteen eighteen, eighteen nineteen, I don't even know,

324
00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,840
Speaker 2: right around maybe I was eighteen, I don't know. I

325
00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,080
Speaker 2: mean old enough to get my ass kicked by a

326
00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,000
Speaker 2: grown ass man. Yeah, so especially listen, you definitely get

327
00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,600
Speaker 2: your ass kicked when it comes to somebody's daughter. Because

328
00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,440
Speaker 2: I have a daughter, so I know how it is

329
00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,320
Speaker 2: to be a parent. You're never going to win.

330
00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,880
Speaker 1: Do you look back and now you go, I get it,

331
00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:48,160
Speaker 1: Like I.

332
00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,200
Speaker 2: Like, listen, if you try to do anything with my daughter,

333
00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,240
Speaker 2: you're getting your ass kicked. That's just the bottom line.

334
00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,440
Speaker 2: Like it just it's going to happen. And I get it.

335
00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,240
Speaker 2: My daughter is fourteen. I was gonna say thirteen fourteen.

336
00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,119
Speaker 1: So you're you're inching into like the troubled territory.

337
00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,600
Speaker 2: No, no, I mean she's she's a good kid. She

338
00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,800
Speaker 2: she horseback rides, she does all the sports that that

339
00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,240
Speaker 2: daddy's gonna be paying for us for the rest of

340
00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,560
Speaker 2: his life front with But yeah, I mean, listen, every

341
00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,160
Speaker 2: man should have a daughter right right off the bat.

342
00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,160
Speaker 2: It's it makes a man a man. I believe that

343
00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,040
Speaker 2: I have played barbies on the floor with my daughter.

344
00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,960
Speaker 2: I painted nails, and I'm not ashamed to say it.

345
00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,520
Speaker 2: I'm a great dad. You know. Maybe it stems from,

346
00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,240
Speaker 2: you know, my past childhood of you know, of maybe

347
00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,040
Speaker 2: not having parents around like I probably should have. But

348
00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,240
Speaker 2: I'm probably like over compensating, right, you know, I could

349
00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,159
Speaker 2: probably been a nail technician that has nothing to do

350
00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:42,840
Speaker 2: with my Asian side.

351
00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,720
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. That's hilarious. So so you end up working

352
00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,000
Speaker 1: at this bank, do you and the daddy, the daddy,

353
00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,720
Speaker 1: the mean daddy end up becoming buddies and like we did.

354
00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,399
Speaker 2: We ended up opening a company together.

355
00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:57,720
Speaker 1: Get the freak out.

356
00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,360
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the craziest, very crazy party.

357
00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,440
Speaker 1: Did you end up saying with his daughter, No.

358
00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,080
Speaker 2: He wanted me to marry her and there's no way

359
00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:04,520
Speaker 2: I got.

360
00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,320
Speaker 1: Rid of her ass, Oh my goodness.

361
00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,720
Speaker 2: And then we started partying and hanging out with chicks

362
00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,160
Speaker 2: and crazy. I mean the fact that I have these

363
00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,600
Speaker 2: stories in my head. If you could even imagine the

364
00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,720
Speaker 2: stories in my head of women in a convertible BMW

365
00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,360
Speaker 2: with no tops on, driving on the road and we're

366
00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,840
Speaker 2: in the front seat of the car. Just crazy stuff,

367
00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,360
Speaker 2: like crazy crazy stuff. We're buddies, Yeah, we're buddies after

368
00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,119
Speaker 2: that point. And I think I went to the graduation

369
00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,520
Speaker 2: for his daughter, didn't do anything with her and called it.

370
00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,680
Speaker 2: Say peace. You know, it was one of those things.

371
00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,600
Speaker 2: It's just it was weird, that's crazy. I got into

372
00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,159
Speaker 2: money with these with his daddy, right, so you know,

373
00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,480
Speaker 2: this was I think two thousand and six, right, and

374
00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,760
Speaker 2: we ended up doing financially amazing. And let me tell

375
00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,320
Speaker 2: you first, let me backtrack a little bit, right. You know,

376
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,280
Speaker 2: when I was that kid that was going to work

377
00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:02,040
Speaker 2: with the father, I was this really shitty, punk ass kid.

378
00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,800
Speaker 2: It was eighteen because now I remember eighteen because it

379
00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,320
Speaker 2: was just I just graduated at eighteen years old. Nobody

380
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,679
Speaker 2: wants to spend time in any kind of building, right,

381
00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,439
Speaker 2: especially an office bullshit job. Right. So I learned the

382
00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,520
Speaker 2: mortgage banking business inside and out by annoying people. And

383
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,000
Speaker 2: I say annoying, like you know, all right, Karen I'm

384
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,560
Speaker 2: gonna sit here and watch you underwrite stuff, right, And

385
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 2: so I'm reading the book I'm underwriting because I have

386
00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 2: nothing to do. I'm bored. Right.

387
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 1: Oh, he didn't really like give you a job. He

388
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 1: just needed you under supervision.

389
00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,959
Speaker 2: Oh supervision. There was no job. There was no payment,

390
00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,439
Speaker 2: nothing like that. Let's get that strictly, you know, like clear,

391
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 2: there was nothing. I was spending my own money to

392
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 2: go to work with him, right, because it was either

393
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 2: that or death. So it was like, which one you want?

394
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 1: This is hilarious.

395
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 2: So I went to work with this guy, and he

396
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 2: was busy, macho dude, you're doing his thing, right, Italian guy,

397
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 2: your big ass office, and me, I'm like a little

398
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 2: small cubicle, like, hey, do whatever the hell you want,

399
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 2: but you're standing here, you know. So I ended up

400
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,680
Speaker 2: meeting everybody in that company and sitting with them, became

401
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,439
Speaker 2: friends with them and learning their jobs. But so, like

402
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm talking about learning their jobs so well, I learned it,

403
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,640
Speaker 2: only to say that they're doing shit wrong. Oh my god,

404
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,679
Speaker 2: that's like Dennis the Menace. Hey, Karen, you know do

405
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,199
Speaker 2: you know that this guideline says that you can't do

406
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 2: this and She's like, I don't care what you what

407
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 2: we're talking about, Ty, And then I was like, oh,

408
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 2: let me go to Art. Hey, Art, guess what, You're

409
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 2: probably gonna lose money from your investors if she doesn't

410
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 2: correct this. I tattletaled and everybody in that company.

411
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 1: Now, I see how you guys ended up becoming partners, right,

412
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 1: because you were like showing it. Well, indirectly you were

413
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 1: showing him that you knew this stuff. But indirectly.

414
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, not not yet, yeah, not a purpose. But there

415
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 2: was this guy named Tony Ravella. He had a company

416
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 2: called Fortune One. The guy was probably like six or

417
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 2: seven years older than me. Right, hot shot Latin guy

418
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 2: walks in and he's like, hey, you know, I'm looking

419
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 2: for my checks. I was at the front, right, and

420
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 2: I said checks and said or whatever, right, and so

421
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 2: I will go to the back and say, Art. This

422
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 2: guy Tony says, you know, he's looking for checks, and

423
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,719
Speaker 2: he's like, just give me these checks. He had him

424
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 2: on his desk. I look at the checks. I'm like

425
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 2: twenty seven thousand dollars. This guy's not that much older

426
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 2: than me, you know, Like hey, Tony, like how do

427
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,719
Speaker 2: you make this kind of money? He's like, I'm a lender,

428
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: you know, for real stagents. I'm like a lender from

429
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 2: real stagents. You know, Like okay, well how do I

430
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 2: do that? You know, like I'm a broke skateboarder. Right,

431
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 2: So he's like, yeah, why don't you come hang out

432
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 2: with me and I'll talk about it. I'm like, hey,

433
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 2: Art Tony, you know your client, he's like the number

434
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 2: one client, says I can go hang out with him.

435
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 2: He says okay, so whatever, he didn't care, and so

436
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: we ended up going to a Miyagi sushi on sunset

437
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 2: and having like the craziest time of our life. Right.

438
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: You know, here I am like asking a million questions.

439
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 2: I'll never forget this, right, anybody that somebody doesn't want

440
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 2: to have an annoying kid asking them what did you

441
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 2: do to make your money? Right? It's like the most annoying,

442
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 2: especially you're young and you just really want to find

443
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: out the secret. So I was doing that constantly and

444
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: they're like, ty, this is this is not business time

445
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: right now, this is just we're parting. We're having a

446
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 2: good time. You know, you're the you're the young young

447
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 2: kid that shouldn't be drinking, but you know, you're taking everybody' shots. Yeah,

448
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 2: you know, because I was driving in like really nice cars.

449
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 2: I was driving h one hummers with these guys. So

450
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: it's like I felt like I was part of the

451
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 2: crew even though I was on probation pretty much. Yeah yeah,

452
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 2: but you know, these guys saw that had interest in

453
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 2: you know, they wanted to help me. So I did,

454
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 2: like what every young kid that wants to make a

455
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 2: million dollars, right, I started sitting with these guys and

456
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 2: just watching them what they do, and I said, well, hey,

457
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 2: let me see if I can go get a deal.

458
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: And sure enough, I got my first deal. I made, like,

459
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: you know, it was like forty eight hundred bucks. But

460
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 2: for a kid that.

461
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: Has a lot of money, yeah, you know, to making.

462
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: Forty eight hundred hours like okay, well cool, Like what

463
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: am gonna do with money? Right? So I started buying stuff,

464
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 2: you know, just random stuff, and it was like stuff

465
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 2: that I didn't even need. Right, I'm like, well this

466
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 2: is cool, but now I'm broke again, right, Because it's

467
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 2: like when you're you feel like you're rich forty hundred

468
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: dollars me and you were like, oh shit, we're broke, right,

469
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,959
Speaker 2: But when you're a kid and you have your parents,

470
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: you know, that are taking care of everything, and you're

471
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 2: getting money. You're like, okay, well I don't want to

472
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 2: go broke again, like how to get my next deal? Right?

473
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: So I started learning, like learning how to like talk

474
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 2: to people, and learning about sales books and educating myself,

475
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 2: you know, with the rich dad, poor dad books right,

476
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: the Robert Kiyosaki mentality, and just reading different kinds of

477
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: sales books. I mean, I have a crazy book collection.

478
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: Anybody that wants to be on my level, you better

479
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 2: be prepared to buy at least like a hundred books,

480
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: right because of psychology, right, psychology one on one, and

481
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 2: you have to understand how to read people so well,

482
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 2: just by the way they look at you, their facial expressions.

483
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: That's it. People want you to mirror them, and if

484
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: you don't, they're not going to feel comfortable with you.

485
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who you think you are or how

486
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: rich you think you are. And I win to burn

487
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 2: this thing up.

488
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: Cool, that's hilarious.

489
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the bottom line is is education is key

490
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: and it's a science. And I had that learned that science,

491
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: especially if I wanted to be with the big players.

492
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: Right now, When you were in high school, were you

493
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: a good student? How did you know to start looking

494
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: into books? Was it because everyone around you had a

495
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: book collection?

496
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: Like?

497
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: Where did that? Because even being young, I can't imagine

498
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: you where that came from.

499
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 2: Listen, just because they have glasses on, don't get it twisted.

500
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: I'm not that book smarter. I know how to manipulate,

501
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: probably better than most. Right. So money is the first

502
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: way of manipulating anybody. Right, So if you had a

503
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: little bit of money, you know how to give your

504
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: lunch money to the teacher and buy her stuff, right,

505
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: whether it's a drink or whatever. Right, it's I learned

506
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: about how to get extra credit. I learned how to

507
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: suck up to my teacher, how to get good grades,

508
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 2: right without even doing all the work. It's kind it's

509
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: kind of shitty, right. I don't really want my kids

510
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 2: to hear this stuff and think that they can get

511
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: away with you.

512
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: Definite.

513
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well I'm the strictest. I'm the strictest part, but

514
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: I'm very vers I.

515
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: Feel like all the dads are like the kids know,

516
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: they get their love from the mom, and then they

517
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: go to the dad for like, yeah, they just don't

518
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: want to disappoint the dad or whatever.

519
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: This is the thing, like, I'm not happy with what

520
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: I've done, especially in school. But I used to take

521
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: baseball cards and you know, trade them to my friends

522
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: that do my homework or you know whatever I would

523
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: have from my birthday parties and give it away to

524
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: order to make deals. I was making deals in high school,

525
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: you know, And and I was basically what I was

526
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: doing is I was having students do my homework for me, right,

527
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: you know, I was a B level student for a

528
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: guy that really didn't do much work, right, I knew

529
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: how to manipulate the system to basically just work for me.

530
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: So it's it's unfortunate. But I will not say that

531
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 2: I have the education of an A student, because I

532
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: really don't. I just knew how to hustle. I knew

533
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: how to have people work for me at at a

534
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: student level in order to get me the grades I need.

535
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: I knew how to buy my teachers off.

536
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 1: I always heard this rumor that usually A students work

537
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: for B and C students or something like that. A students.

538
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: That's all bullshit, because all those A students definitely were

539
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: on my payroll and that's just the truth.

540
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you work, that's what that goes that that.

541
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: No, you said A students A students work for B

542
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: and C students work for Yeah, okay, so that's what

543
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 2: you said. Yes, they definitely definitely work. Sorry, I was

544
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: getting I was getting out real fierce right now. I

545
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: was like, no work for me.

546
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that's you just confirm.

547
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: You just confirm the theory. You know, by by you know,

548
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: I'll say this by by twenty one, you know, which

549
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 2: was two thousand, two thousand and seven, right, I was

550
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 2: making like one hundred K a month, right, wow? Yeah,

551
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: I want to say it was twenty wow. Right. I

552
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: was having money going to my accounts that I thought

553
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: that the IRS was playing with me and putting money

554
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: into my accounts. I was thinking, like, where's this money

555
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: coming from. It's just getting to positive account. I had

556
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: so many business affiliations with people that money would come

557
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: in and there would be baked deposits in my account

558
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: and it would be no trace of where this money

559
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: came from. So I'm tripping out meanwhile trying to figure

560
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: out where this money is coming from. And I was

561
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: financially killing it, like killing this is.

562
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: After the forty eight hundred dollars adult keeper were the money.

563
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: We're moving. We're moving way past that now, yeah, because

564
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: that was just one little stipid. Once I got that taste. Yeah,

565
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: it's like an it's I don't want to say it's

566
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: like a coke addiction, because who does that. I'm just saying.

567
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,239
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, but it's like that. It's like, you know,

568
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: you get that one taste of something and you want

569
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 2: to just keep on going. Yeah. Yeah, right, So that

570
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: one experience that had forty eight hundred dollars, I turned

571
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: that to quickly money, right. I got one check that

572
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: was like ninety eight hundred dollars or something, ninety eight hundred.

573
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: Try eight ninety eight thousand dollars. Well, I'm talking about

574
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: nineteen hundred. That's nothing, ninety eight thousand dollars, right, for

575
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: one transaction, So you know I was really doing some

576
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: big stuff.

577
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: Now after that first I hate to keep bringing up,

578
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: but after that first forty eight hundred, you end up

579
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: learning a value, but lesson about how you're spending. So

580
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: the next bit of checks, are you just investing them

581
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: more wisely versus spending like a crazy person.

582
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I didn't. I did not learn about

583
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: investing in nothing. I only learned about spending and living

584
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: a lifestyle. That was it, right because there was no

585
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: financial education for a cocky young kid that was driving

586
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: a brand new S five hundred, right, and that was

587
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: making more money than his teachers in college, right, right,

588
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: Because obviously I got out of high school, went to college,

589
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: and my first semester, I was like, why made me? Hear?

590
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: I'm using used books. They're trying to teach me e

591
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: comm they trying to teach me business, and this does

592
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: not make sense, right because I'm making that ridiculous money.

593
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: You know, I was like one of the very few

594
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: people do with that stuff. I was a hustler.

595
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: They got lucky, right, Okay, okay, and then now take

596
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: you closer to love enlistings.

597
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: That's like way further out there.

598
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: And okay, so you and the dad, you guys, partner,

599
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: is this when you're making a lot more money?

600
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: We we what we did was we were we were

601
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: we were funding like loans and this is not before,

602
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: this isn't this is before I got into actual real estate.

603
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna show you how I got into that.

604
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: We were funding, Like by myself, I was doing fifty

605
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: million a month just in fundings, right, so people's loans

606
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: and using warehouse lines to fund their you know, their

607
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: their the real estate. I wanted to do more retail,

608
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: which I was dealing with. The wholesale means that if

609
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: you're a mortgage broker, you're coming to our company and

610
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: we were funding your stuff, right. But I would make

611
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: more money if I was the retail and I was

612
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: making the wholesale right. It was like there was retail

613
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: wholesale money, right, and then.

614
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: We're selling the loans wholesale money.

615
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: Wholesale money is like, for instance, if you buy this

616
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: water right and you buy this for a dollar, right,

617
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: a wholesale, but you're selling it in the supermarkets for

618
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: a dollar fifty.

619
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but how's that? How do you have wholesale in

620
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: real estate? Though?

621
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: With lending, well, I owned a piece of the mortgage company, right,

622
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: so we made that money. I had a piece of

623
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: the real estate company, or not really at the time,

624
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: it wasn't my real estate company. It was me as

625
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: an agent, so I was making my commissions on top

626
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: of it. So I was making commissions and I was

627
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: making a piece of the mortgage company, right, because I

628
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: had interest in that company, okay, right, And you know

629
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: it was like double dipping. I was making insane amount

630
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: of money. So each transaction to me could have been

631
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: like twenty to thirty thousand every transaction. So that was

632
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: what the retail and the wholesale would make me. But

633
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: if it was just the wholesale make, you know, it

634
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: could be it could be five thousand to ten thousand, depends, right,

635
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: It depends on want have to split with my partner? Right?

636
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: And at what are your sisters, and I mean your

637
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: siblings and your parents saying at the time when they're

638
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: seeing you like extremely successful?

639
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: I think they were just confused on how much money.

640
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: I mean, these were different times though money was coming

641
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: in a lot easier. I mean, obviously this daying age

642
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: is a lot harder, right, there's so many more regulations.

643
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: And I was just young and cocky. So what are

644
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: they going to say to me? I didn't care.

645
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: Did your siblings say, teach me how to fish?

646
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that. I think that they were living

647
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: their life and I was living mine and in a

648
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: very fast lane. I was partying every night and drinking,

649
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: and you hanging out with chicks and just doing the

650
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: young kid things like the fact that I even did

651
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: that stuff when I looked back at my life and traveling,

652
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: like I travel all over the world, right, and I'm

653
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: talking about about like a very lavish lifestyle, private islands,

654
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: like going to Europe, spending fifty thousand up for a week,

655
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: like it's just crazy shit, right, And it's it's it's

656
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: it's an experience that most people will never have. I

657
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: look back as, oh, that's cool, but it was also stupid.

658
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: I spent so much money, yeah, right, And I think

659
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: that anybody that has ever made that kind of money

660
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: they always wish that they would have saved a little bit. Right.

661
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: I did not save. I just spent.

662
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: So what was where was that critical lesson where you

663
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm assuming because you're saying that it wasn't that was

664
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: that it wasn't a great idea at the time. So

665
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: where did it take a turn for probably not the

666
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: best for you with all the spending.

667
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: There was a mortgage crash, right, which affected the real

668
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: estate world, you know.

669
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: So that was like two thousand and eight.

670
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: Two thousands. It started at the two thousand and seven

671
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: and ended up to or started it started two thousand

672
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: and end of two thousand and seven and went to

673
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. So I think I want to

674
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: say November of two thousand and seven where the market

675
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: started shifting. Right, And when you're making all that kind

676
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: of money, it's like you have a couple of drinks, right,

677
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: You're not thinking that you could get drunk. You're thinking

678
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: that you can still drive. Right. So I didn't see

679
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: it coming. I was too new to it, right. It

680
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: was like there was no lessons for me to learn.

681
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: It was I'm going to learn this lesson. God's going

682
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: to show me that I'm going to learn a lesson.

683
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: I need to slow down. But my foresight it was

684
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: not there, and that vision was not there of the

685
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: market crashing. When that market crashed, all my bills of

686
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: whatever I was paying, I want to say, it was

687
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: paying like twenty k a month at an early age,

688
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: right in my twenties, right, I didn't prepare for so

689
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: I had enough money to cover say a year's worth

690
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: of you know, of salaries, cause I was paying employees

691
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: that worked for me. I was paying for expenses. I

692
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: was paying for offices, cars, six thousand dollars worth of

693
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: payments a month, like some crazy stuff. And the problem

694
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: is is your ego is still in tact. So you're like, well,

695
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: it's going to pass over, no big deal. I'm going

696
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: to keep on paying for people's expenses. I mean by

697
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: me having a decent heart and paying for the stuff

698
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: and hoping that you know that things are going to

699
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: get better. It didn't get better. It only got worse. Right,

700
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: that's scary.

701
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: So then what happens?

702
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: I mean, so this one was cooked?

703
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: Man feed us.

704
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not just making sure. I mean, we want

705
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 2: a well done rain. We want a well Jesus one.

706
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I want to eat. I want to try

707
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: these sales too.

708
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: She wants us to try the shelves. So let me

709
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 2: just say this, and I'm gonna I'm gonna serve this

710
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: to you. Since I didn't prepare myself for a shitty economy,

711
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: you know, I ended up going broke, like literally, and

712
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: it wasn't like I was goke like bankruptcy broke. Yeah,

713
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: Like like when you have all these debtors and you

714
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: can't pay for these things because your lifestyle is so expensive,

715
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: right and the money's not coming in, you know, it

716
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: takes a toll on you, like yes, there was some

717
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: deals coming in, but you know it wasn't the same, right.

718
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: So it's it's like, you know there's a winter coming, right,

719
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 2: but you're not storing enough food. You know, you're just

720
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: you're lazy. You want to go hang out with the nightclub.

721
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: So you're not taking enough food in, you're not harvesting,

722
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 2: harvesting enough, and before you know it, here's the winter,

723
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: and now midway through winter, you're starving, right, but your

724
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: ego's in place, so you're not trying to go ask

725
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: your friends and family because you're this macho farmer. You know,

726
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: you're you have this ego. So the main thing in

727
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: this story is is I had an ego and I

728
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: had to learn a lesson from it, right that, you know,

729
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 2: I needed to prepare myself. But you know it was

730
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: a first time. It was new, young, rich, successful.

731
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: So how long were you broke?

732
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: For? Oh? Years? Years? Years? It wasn't like I had

733
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: just you know, I snapped right out of it. It

734
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: was years, you know, to learn that lesson, and you know,

735
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: almost lost everything. Got to keep my one of my cars,

736
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: got to keep one of the houses. But I still

737
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: have the file bankruptcy and and and you know, terminate

738
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: my lifestyle, right, didn't go on trips, you know, barely

739
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: had enough money to survive every month, you know, just

740
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: with modifications of loans and you know, saying you're going

741
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: to pay back people, and.

742
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: You know, think I have kids or anything, thank God?

743
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: Right. See, No, I didn't have kids at that time

744
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 2: because I was still really young. But you know, it

745
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: was I can't even imagine if I did. Let's just

746
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: say that, you know, And it scares me even to

747
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: say that, because you know, now I'm like a saber, right,

748
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: so I always have money. I actually live a very

749
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: modest lifestyle. When I see people that act like they

750
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: have all this and that, you know, it's it's ridiculous

751
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: to me, you know. I I don't look down on them.

752
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: I just think that they don't know, right. It's like

753
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: that in the Bible says, you know, forgive me Father,

754
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: for they do not know, right. So it's like they

755
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: don't know what could possibly happen. Right, So when people

756
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: act a certain way, they just don't know what the

757
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 2: possibilities are. And you know, I learned a value lesson

758
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: to never act like I'm better than anybody else or

759
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: have more money than anybody else. I mean, honestly, I

760
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: have a crazy watch collection, right, and I don't even

761
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: wear watches. You know, I got beautiful rollu says Cardias

762
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. What kind of attention am I

763
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: going to attract? Right, I'm gonna get somebody because they

764
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: think I'm cool because I have, you know, fifty thousand

765
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: dollars watch on. I didn't need you in at the beginning,

766
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,479
Speaker 2: when I had my Black American Express, I still didn't

767
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 2: need you because you're only cool cool with me because

768
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: I was spending money on you.

769
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, my my husband, he's reading a book called

770
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: Like Money Psychology, and he was telling me this morning

771
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: that there's a difference between rich and wealthy. And he

772
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: was saying that rich people, you know, they they're trying

773
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: to give off this image. But if you ever see

774
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: someone driving a nice car there, when other people look

775
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: at you, they're thinking, wow, that's a nice car. They're

776
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: not thinking, oh, he's cool because he's driving a nice car,

777
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: or this person's cool because they have a nice watch.

778
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: There's thaying and that's a nice watch.

779
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: That's you could you could you could say it like that.

780
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: You know, first off, it doesn't really matter what anybody thinks. Right,

781
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 2: that's what you think. If you want an expensive car,

782
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: just do it for you. That's what I'm saying. When

783
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 2: I was spending money on people, I was doing because

784
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: I was so insecure that I felt like I needed

785
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: to have a lifestyle and have friends and whatnot. But

786
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: all these people were like bad actors. Right. They were

787
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: only there because I had the nicest stuff. Right, So

788
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, where were they when

789
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: I had no money? Right? They were gone? So you

790
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 2: got to do things for yourself, right, you know, these

791
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 2: kind of moments and cooking and having a good time.

792
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: You know, that's why, like when you're a young girl

793
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: sitting on her with her family or they're at a

794
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 2: table like in your having moments, that's way more precious

795
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 2: than going to a master of steakhouse to impress your friends.

796
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: I agree with that, So you know, I became way

797
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: more family warranted and more secure with myself. But it

798
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 2: took a long period of time. It wasn't like something

799
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: that was just it came to me. I had to

800
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: really fight the demons of the insecurities of trying to

801
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: impress people for something that I thought I was But

802
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I'm a wholesome dude, right, I'm cooking tacos

803
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: And I went to there was this called like food

804
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 2: for Less.

805
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: Right, I saw, I saw your bag.

806
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was definitely an interesting lifestyle. People like,

807
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: you know, talking to me in there. They were trying

808
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: to sell me stuff in there, and I don't know

809
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: if they're trying to Yeah, I was like it was

810
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: it was different. It was different. I mean, but I'm

811
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: such a like a nice guy. I'll talk to everybody.

812
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: And I saw the one lady break out, probably her

813
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: boyfriend's class.

814
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that.

815
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she was going nuts. Do you want

816
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: to try this stuff?

817
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to try We're gonna you gotta

818
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: serve both of us up.

819
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm gonna do it a little differ.

820
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this one.

821
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna try one of your flower tortillas too.

822
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: How do you end up inching into real estate? So

823
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: obviously there's a period where oh you're doing it for real,

824
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: for real.

825
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. My girl made this comment to

826
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: my daughter. We were in bed, and she said, my

827
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: daughter's you know, like that lifestyle fourteen, and you know,

828
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: she had the Uber Eats, you know the door dash,

829
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: and she comes in like a nine o'clock She just says, Dad,

830
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: we need to get Chick fil A, right, and my

831
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: girls like chick fil A, Like haven't you ever heard

832
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: of like chips and cheese? You know, my daughter's very

833
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: specific of what she wants, right, And this is how

834
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: you know we've spoiled our children when she's asking at

835
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: nine o'clock for Chick fil A, very specific. So yesterday

836
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: I went to the steakhouse fig of the chow, right,

837
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 2: and so my daughter hits me up, Dad, I need McDonald's. Right.

838
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, because we go somewhere, you need to get

839
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: something too. Like we have way more Trader Joe's in

840
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: our house than most people, right, I'm talking about we

841
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: have refrigerators. And because we go out, you need to

842
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: go out to my son. He's a little hustler. He

843
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: sells stuff on eBay, He goes buys whatever. Hell, I

844
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: can't say shit to him, right, he just does. He

845
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: is the ultimate hustle. Starts a hustle name. So he

846
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: bought me these glasses. You know, he's like he's fifteen,

847
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: thinks he's going to get a Tesla for his sixteenth birthday.

848
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know about that one. I mean,

849
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: I want to spoil him, But at the same token,

850
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm doing a disjustice if I don't

851
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: get him a shitty car. Yeah yeah, you know, like

852
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: I feel like I need to humble them.

853
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: But he sounds like he sounds like a hustler.

854
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: He's the biggest hustler. He hustles me. But he's a

855
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 2: great driver. And I think I have to punk him

856
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 2: a little bit because he's just you know, his mom

857
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: is white, and I'm like that, you know, third world country,

858
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: you know, got here to the United States. I feel

859
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: like I got to, like, you know, kind of beat

860
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: him up a little bit, give him a little bit

861
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: of that, because this American lifestyle is like it's fake.

862
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: A lot of it's fake. I don't think there's any

863
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: kind of like grass roots that really gets you to

864
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: understand culture. I think the people that in this country,

865
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: the ones that that have culture are the Latins, the Asians,

866
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: the blacks, right because not talking shit about whites right

867
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: at all, because my mom's white, but white people tend

868
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: to replace their time at the tape with activities, business

869
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: TVs other bullshit, right, But you're not doing that in

870
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: Asian culture. You're not doing that a black Try doing

871
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: that with a black culture and say, hey, mom, I'm

872
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: gonna go watch TV. I'm gonna watch the Simpsons. See

873
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: what ye see what mom's gonna say? Right, Latin try,

874
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: I dare you see what that's gonna work work out

875
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: for you? But a white person is again, my mom's white, Okay,

876
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: but you can take your food up to your bedroom

877
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: and eat alone like first class, right, Like is it

878
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: that true?

879
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: I don't know enough white people to.

880
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: Know, but well I'm just saying like that, that looks good.

881
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: You you hooked me up. I like it with the

882
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: cheese melted.

883
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: No, no, we're gonna get you to this.

884
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: So when does real estate come into play?

885
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: Well, you know when real estate came to play because

886
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: I wanted to get more mortgage brokers to come work

887
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: for me.

888
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: Right, this is after you're broke, After you go broke,

889
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: you get into estate.

890
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: No, this was before okay, okay, so this is how

891
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: I started segreating into it. So the story is kind

892
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: of like choppy, but it's it's there. Right, that's a

893
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: little bit of add from me. So in my mortgage days,

894
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: I was meeting all these real estate agents right to

895
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: work with our company to you know, get their clients.

896
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: The real estate agents have clients obviously they have mortgages,

897
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: and you know, trying to get them on board with

898
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: our retail center, right because I had wholesale and I

899
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 2: had retail.

900
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: Do you have to turn off those stoves?

901
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's it. One's offer here. Yeah, don't burn yourself. No, No,

902
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: it's good, it's good. It's good. We got insurance. So

903
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: this is what happened, right, The retail mortgage loan officers

904
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: were not getting enough from their real estate agents. So

905
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: I had a partner that you know, God rests in

906
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: peace for him, and only he died. But he he said, ty,

907
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: why don't I do all the mortgages and you go

908
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: out there and become a real estate agent and but

909
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: not really sell properties. Go to every real estate firm,

910
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: meet all the real estate agents and have them send

911
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: me business, take them, take them out to wine and

912
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 2: dine them and show them a lifestyle because you're still

913
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: getting half of my money, and go be the secret agent.

914
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: Okay.

915
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 2: And that's that's what I was. I went to the

916
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: col world bankers, the remaxes, you know, the executive real

917
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: estate companies, and I went and did all the meetings

918
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: and you know, the tour, the tours of the buildings

919
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: and general managers, and I would go take them out

920
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: for lunches and say, hey, I got this really great.

921
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: You know, loan officer Nolan Nelson is amazing. You should

922
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: really use them. You should just call them here, just

923
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 2: call them. And then hey, hey, Nolan, take this take

924
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: this girl out. You know, she likes horses and stuff,

925
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: whatever she likes going out and dancing. Take her. So

926
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: we would schmooz people, and I wouldn't even do business.

927
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: I would just schmooze people for a living, right because

928
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: I was still making it crazy money. I still have

929
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: my Mercedes and all this crazy lifestyle. And before you

930
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: know it, I'm starting to get business. I'm like real estate, Okay, cool,

931
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: now you're getting Now I'm really double dipping here. So

932
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 2: now I'm really double dipping. And I got my first

933
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: deal and I'm selling this guy a property. Francis Verrillo,

934
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: what was his name? And Julio Julio, I can't Julio.

935
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: I'm not sure his name was. But I sold two

936
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: of the properties or painters, and you know, they used

937
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: our mortage company, and I just didn't realize, like how

938
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: easy this was. I'm like, real estate, this is dune.

939
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: This is like show property. Rite a contract. You know,

940
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: even in my first contract ever even wrote I put

941
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 2: the wrong address. I'm like, God, I sold the house

942
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: next door. Thank God the APN number was right on

943
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: that contract because the address was wrong.

944
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.

945
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 2: I'm like, I sold the property next door and they

946
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: signed off on it. This is crazy. Might ensued, right,

947
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: I was freaking So my real estate experience has not

948
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: been easy. The fact that I'm even good at it,

949
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: you know, boggles me. But I'm actually not even good.

950
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: I'm actually a guru probably at this point because I've

951
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: already went through the trials and tribulations of you know,

952
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: the chaos. But you know, I always had multiple incomes

953
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: from that real estate from when I got into real estate,

954
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: to the mortgage side to the wholesale side. You know,

955
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: I've done fairly well. That's why I could always go

956
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: from one or the other, or or or dibbled out

957
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: in both this day and age. I don't do anything

958
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: with mortgages other than you know, as long as they

959
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: give a good customer service, I'm cool with it. I

960
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: stick in one and one genre, which is just the

961
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: real estate and luxury and you know my clientele. Mmm good,

962
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 2: m hm. You don't really like onions.

963
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: Though, No, but you know what, I've just been into one.

964
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm so glad. I put very little onions. Let us do?

965
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: Did you put lettus?

966
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: No? But I'm hungry, so I eat everything. I'm not

967
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: really much of a complaint.

968
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: Avocado avocado right here?

969
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got to hook it up, bro Well,

970
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean listen, I was grabbing the the onions. I

971
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 2: was grabbing the hot, the hot halapenos.

972
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: You can never go wrong being broke and eating tacos.

973
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: This is amazing. And you know what, the hot sauce does.

974
00:46:59,440 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: Help.

975
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: Should put more hot sauce and mustards.

976
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 2: Right, that's that broke trick right there, when you got avocado.

977
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: On the tacola bomb. I don't even think I do

978
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: that ever in real life.

979
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: Really, they're so bomb. You you that sugar and lemon?

980
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what, I have a sugar You

981
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: know how people like alcohol and drugs. My advice is

982
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: sugar like there's a TwixT in my car right now?

983
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: Really like, please you just don't go down there and

984
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: eat it?

985
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: We do like paper oxylity, who gets up? Boom?

986
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: Where does Loving Listings come in to play?

987
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: Hmm?

988
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: Love just Taco is so good everyone, I'm gonna eat

989
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Well, you're hungry too, Oh, I'm hungry

990
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: all right, go on.

991
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: Love en Listings right mm hmm. I worked with so

992
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: many rappers people in the entertainment industry that I decided

993
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: to grab myself home. I'm just filmed bits and pieces

994
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: of it and after a while looking at the foot

995
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: and I'm like, this looks like it could be a show,

996
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: said Cribs. You know, no one was doing what I

997
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: was doing.

998
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: Before all the other real estate shows start piling in.

999
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: I mean there was Cribs, but yeah, I mean I

1000
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: was definitely pioneering it before the selling sound says. But

1001
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: the problem is they didn't show like the million doi

1002
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: listening was out there, but it didn't show the diversity

1003
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 2: that the Jamaicans, right, the Blacks, the Latins that had

1004
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: money too, that were buying all these properties. They showed

1005
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: the millionarire listenings that were showing you saw the white people,

1006
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: and you saw that they had a specific you know,

1007
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: client sele that were wealthy, but you never saw the

1008
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: culture people have money. So you know, what does that

1009
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: say to our kids that blacks don't have money, Asians

1010
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: don't have money? What is that? I mean, there's crazy

1011
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: rich Asians that came way further, you know, later in

1012
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: the process. But I saw there was a need for it.

1013
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: So I started filming stuff and I used rappers that

1014
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: I was friends with as a gateway because they were

1015
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: buying and renting houses for extraordinarily high price, right because

1016
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: they were underprivileged, underserved, and when they wanted it, they

1017
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: wanted it. They wanted it because no one ever gave

1018
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: them the opportunity to have it. So for me, I

1019
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: was that guy that said, hey, why don't we, you know,

1020
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: get them a better deal as opposed to because this

1021
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: is a culture of rappers. I want it. I'm gonna

1022
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: spend that money and don't even negotiate price.

1023
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: I've I've noticed that they don't negotiate at all.

1024
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: Huh, they don't. They just want it right because it's

1025
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,479
Speaker 2: they just it's it's something they want. So I always

1026
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 2: came out.

1027
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: Most of these rappers act like street You would think

1028
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: they would think to negotiate.

1029
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: No, because it's a flex. But how much that flex?

1030
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: How many shows do you have to do? You know

1031
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: for that flex? So you know I always treated everybody

1032
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: fairly and said let's do this price. Let's do it

1033
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: that price, right, you know, Rockstar. I did his house right.

1034
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 2: I door knocked on that. He said time, I want

1035
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 2: to be in this area, very very predominant. Are he

1036
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 2: lives in Chatsworth.

1037
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: I know because he's friends with one of my friends.

1038
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I door knocked on that house and I

1039
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 2: negotiated it and we got him the house.

1040
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: You door knocked it.

1041
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: I door knocked it because he said time I want

1042
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: to be in the area. So and you'll tell you like,

1043
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm that guy like I'll look out for people. If

1044
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: you want it, I'll figure it out.

1045
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: That is actually everyone that I know that knows you,

1046
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: handful of people, literally handful, they've all said the same

1047
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: thing about you. And I met you within five seconds

1048
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: and I felt it. So I was like, oh okay,

1049
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: because we met and then you were like, hey, this

1050
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: is you know, equality is a big thing for me.

1051
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: You know, my dad's Asian, My mom's wife. And because

1052
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: I look a certain way, I have certain benefits, but

1053
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: when I'm with my dad, he doesn't have the same benefits.

1054
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: So it's always really important to see that people get

1055
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 2: treated correctly and honestly, because at the end of the day,

1056
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: regardless of their skin color and the money that they

1057
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: have in their bank account, they deserve to be respected

1058
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: and be treated fairly. And that's the problem society. So

1059
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 2: I carved out a lane, you know, for something that

1060
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: I believe would be a hit, you know, which was

1061
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 2: love and Listenings.

1062
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: And how hard was it to sell the show?

1063
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: It wasn't wasn't that hard. It was more about who

1064
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: did I know to get me to the place that

1065
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 2: I needed to go right And just like the cameraman

1066
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: that's here now, I said, you always have to have

1067
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: one good person that wants to see you win, and

1068
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: to utilize that person, to keep on doing good to

1069
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: that person, to utilize that to go to the next

1070
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: place is that you need to go. It's playing chess.

1071
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1072
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: So because I studied so much psychology, I understand you

1073
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: know what one person can do. If say calling you

1074
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: know ten people and you know the head of Netflix,

1075
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: I might have a conversation with you saying, well, what

1076
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: would you think about this product? Could you take it

1077
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 2: to Ted Surranders? Right? And you know, can you find

1078
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 2: out I would ask you the questions to see if

1079
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 2: you would do it, you know, but it's very important

1080
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 2: to understand, you know, the value of each person. Everybody

1081
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 2: has value, and I think that a lot of people

1082
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: don't utilize it like the way they should. I'm just

1083
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: a master at it.

1084
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I like too that you said that find

1085
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: find some of that wants to see you win. And

1086
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: then I feel like that's when it comes to like

1087
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: all my mentors, a lot of my relationships, you know,

1088
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been very blessed and fortunate to

1089
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: have like a group that wants to see you win,

1090
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: but just an amazing group of people I've been. I

1091
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: don't know, God just keeps a blessing me.

1092
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: We have to ask a lot of questions too, you know,

1093
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: for yourself, like where do you do a show? Right?

1094
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: But where's this show going to be honest? Is gonna

1095
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: be like a major network, the Food Network? And who

1096
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: knows the executive from the Food Network? Right, Like I

1097
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: know that Samuel Jackson's daughter ran the Food Network.

1098
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know that and I know that fact.

1099
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, and you have to know, like, okay,

1100
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: so who knows. I know Stevie Wonders good friends with

1101
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: Samuel Jackson. I know I know Stevie Ander's wife. So

1102
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: you have to like put these things into the atmosphere.

1103
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 2: How you're going to actually accomplish that goal. Most people

1104
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: do not do that, right. People forget goals, right. We

1105
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: have schedules, but we don't have goals right. So it's

1106
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: important to really put your goals together and accomplish it.

1107
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: So going back to the show stuff, I did all

1108
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 2: the leg work right. I cast the show, I shot

1109
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: part of it, had a very amazing partner that was

1110
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 2: blessed to come help me and actually produce the stuff.

1111
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: He was actually one of the first creators of the

1112
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 2: Zeus Network, which was called the Black Box, Sean Matthews.

1113
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: And oh he's one of the founding creators of that was.

1114
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 2: For l PM Media, which was Lemmy's company. I mean,

1115
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: Lemmy has done amazing with you know, with Zeus Network.

1116
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: When no one believed in him. He believed in himself.

1117
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 2: Whether I like him or not, you have to give

1118
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: him credit. For what he's done, you know, and he's

1119
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: living his best life. He manifested that he created it

1120
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: and he's staying with it. So going back to the

1121
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: show that I was doing, it's something that I had

1122
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: a vision and I believed more than anybody. Anything that

1123
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 2: you want to do in life, you have to believe

1124
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: it as if you already achieved it. From achievement, you

1125
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: go reverse, Now that I already have it, how do

1126
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: you go back? What did all the steps that you

1127
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 2: had to do to get to that achievement? And then

1128
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: once you get to the last step, which is where

1129
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: you're at now, now you can move forward. Now you

1130
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 2: have a business plan and that's my secrets, right. And

1131
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: I have a show that I just shot for NBC Universal.

1132
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: It hasn't in greenlit yet, but I'm pretty sure it

1133
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: will be because it's such a great concept and we

1134
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: feel really good about it. But you know, these are

1135
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: just small things. It's like, it's not necessarily do I

1136
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: think that that that they're the best ideas. It's just

1137
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 2: that I believe in it more than most.

1138
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well yeah, well what can we be looking

1139
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: forward to coming from you? I know, it doesn't seem

1140
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: like you want to open up too much about this

1141
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: new show that's going to be greenlit. It's another real

1142
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: estate shows, another real estate show. So you're still doing

1143
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: real estate. You're still doing television production.

1144
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: You know, I don't really tell people I do so

1145
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 2: much producing. You know, I have made quite a bit

1146
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: of impact and made money.

1147
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1148
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 2: It's a hobby to me. Okay, not my career.

1149
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: But your career is just strictly real estate.

1150
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 2: Strictly real estate. So anything that's tied to real estate,

1151
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: whether it's TV or building houses, just I'm a real

1152
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: estate professional.

1153
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like going on your stories and seeing the

1154
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,439
Speaker 1: houses and all that. If you guys want to keep

1155
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: up with tie, go ahead tell them how to do it.

1156
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: Instagram socials, no, just really just Instagram. I mean I

1157
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: have a Twitter, barely use it, but three ten agent,

1158
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: three one O agent.

1159
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: That's me, three old agent.

1160
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: I don't got very many pictures. I got seven. But

1161
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 2: you know I don't post any of the celebrities i'm with.

1162
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 2: Just you know, I would say this right in closing

1163
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: to this. You know, everybody is a celebrity right in

1164
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: their own head, but really make sure you put the

1165
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: foundation for yourself make sure that you're being purposeful in

1166
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 2: your life, and if you have a dream, make sure

1167
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: that you head towards that dream and do it with

1168
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 2: the right intentions. That's it, That's what a real celebrity is.

1169
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: I love that you heard it here first on Eating

1170
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: Wall Broke. Now we're gonna finish eating these this these tackles.

1171
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning on.

1172
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: Peace out ya peace.

1173
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: For more Eating while Broke from iHeartRadio and The Black Effects,

1174
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen

1175
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: to your favorite shows.