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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 2: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling railvalry.

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Speaker 3: No, no sibling rival. Don't do that with your mouth, velry.

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Speaker 2: That's good. This is gonna be a short intro because

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Speaker 2: I have my guests in the waiting room right now.

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Speaker 2: But I just wanted to say that I wish that

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Speaker 2: I didn't have as many sun spots as I do,

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Speaker 2: because I just have so many. I grew up in

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Speaker 2: the sun like burning my face off, like with no

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Speaker 2: sun block coorse. It's like the seventies, and I've got

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Speaker 2: so many sun spots. And I'm only saying this because

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Speaker 2: I just did this movie. And there's one that appears

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Speaker 2: like right between my up on my forehead, like right

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Speaker 2: between my eyes, and I'm like, holy shit, what is that?

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Speaker 2: And it's a sun spot? And now they're on my

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Speaker 2: cheeks anyway. Oh and then and then this is what

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Speaker 2: this is where I was going. And then I'm playing

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Speaker 2: this part where I's be like really really tan and

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Speaker 2: they have to spray tan me and this spray tan

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Speaker 2: like sticks to these weird pigmentations on my skin. It

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Speaker 2: looks like I'm like blotchy everywhere. I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know I got it anyway, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: I'm even telling you assholes this. But I here's what's

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Speaker 2: more important. We got Malik and Kendri Andrews sitting in

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Speaker 2: the waiting room. I'm a huge basketball fan, so I'm

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Speaker 2: very excited to talk to these these ladies and see

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Speaker 2: how they grew up, how they got into sports. And

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Speaker 2: let's let's let's let's do it. Bring him in, Let's

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Speaker 2: have a combo. Hi, Hello, how are you guys?

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Speaker 4: Good?

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Speaker 5: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm very good. I'm uh yeah, I just

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Speaker 2: finished a movie. I said happy Gilmore too.

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Speaker 5: Well, So that's a good thing to be.

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Speaker 1: That.

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Speaker 5: That is a that is a recipe for happiness right there.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was so crazy. Anyway, I just

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Speaker 2: got home from New Jersey, but it was Yeah, I'm home.

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Speaker 2: You know. Now there's fucking candy everywhere everywhere. Okay, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. I did a liver cleanse and

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Speaker 2: it's doing intermittent fasting because I'm forty eight and I

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Speaker 2: drink too much. Laquer and I smoked him. An I'm

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Speaker 2: just like, I got to get my shit together, and

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Speaker 2: it was great. I did about a month of it.

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Speaker 2: I lost weight, I looked great. I was working out,

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Speaker 2: I was doing pilates. And then of course I go

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Speaker 2: to New York, New Jersey to do this show and nice.

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Speaker 5: And all everything happens in New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: There's a bar at the hotel and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: I'm drinking again, and then comes along and yeah, and.

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Speaker 5: Then you're going and getting a little left over a little.

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Speaker 2: But I say, yeah, yeah, you know, I like my weed.

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Speaker 2: I smoke my weed, and I would be good with

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Speaker 2: not eating after seven because I just will.

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Speaker 5: Pay yeah, the inter minute fasting.

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Speaker 2: But now I come home and I'm like, holy fuck,

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Speaker 2: there's an entire trade back of Rice Crispy treats stairs.

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Speaker 5: So we lived in a neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: We moved in Los Angeles and we moved here four

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Speaker 1: and three, four years ago, and there's tons of children

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Speaker 1: in our neighborhood, tons and tons and tons of families

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Speaker 1: and children. And we moved from New York City, where

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Speaker 1: you know, the trigger treating scene is very like the buildings,

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Speaker 1: and that's kind of it. So we saw these kids

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Speaker 1: all over and we're like, oh great, like this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be our first like wheel.

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Speaker 5: So we went to My husband.

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Speaker 1: Was so so excited. We went and got like bags

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Speaker 1: and bags of candy, and Dave was like, all you know,

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Speaker 1: sitting by the door like waiting for tricker treats to come,

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Speaker 1: and all night long, not a single trigger treater came.

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Speaker 1: What that's so set up with all the guys because

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Speaker 1: all of the children in our neighborhood are really conservative.

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Speaker 1: It's a really conservative Jewish neighborhood.

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Speaker 5: It's not their holiday.

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Speaker 1: They celebrate other holidays, but Halloween is not one of the.

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Speaker 5: Jewish people tend to serve, at least in our neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 5: He was so sad.

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Speaker 1: And then I was just sitting eating that candy for

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Speaker 1: like still four years later and now I'm just like

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Speaker 2: Never think it's been amazing years ago. I was actually

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Speaker 2: I was on Fairfax and fair Fact there's like a

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Speaker 2: to my car. I don't think it was Saturday, and

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Speaker 2: up into his apartment to open up his refrigerator and

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Speaker 2: turn lights off and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because you can't turn the lights off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I go in this in this man's apartment.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, you're like.

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Speaker 1: That. That is in all of that, like that type

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Speaker 1: of humanity, that's where I find hope and like people

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Speaker 1: turning on lights for each other. Well, like you know what,

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Speaker 1: Like that is where I'm just going to choose to

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Speaker 1: even that goodness that still exists.

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Speaker 2: We're all human beings. Can we just like love each other?

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Speaker 2: I know it sounds kind of crazy, but like we're

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Speaker 2: all humans at the end of the day, and we

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Speaker 2: all love, and we all feel pain, and we all

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Speaker 2: have our problems, Like why can't we relate on something deeper,

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Speaker 2: you know, rather than sort of policy or this or

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Speaker 2: this or that. You know, I know it affects the

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Speaker 2: way we live and all of that, and that's okay,

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, can we just

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Speaker 2: kind of all find some love? Because really, who gives

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Speaker 2: a fuck about anything else in this you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, that's is that.

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Speaker 1: That Black Eyed Peas song, Where is Where is the

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Speaker 1: Black Eyed Peas Peloton ride the other day, Kender, have

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Speaker 1: you taken that yet?

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Speaker 6: No, I've lost my Peloton account. You did blocking on

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Speaker 6: the peloton.

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Speaker 5: I like, I've been thinking selling a Peloton bike. Honestly,

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Speaker 5: you're going You're on a gym kick right now.

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Speaker 1: But the other day I went to the gym and

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Speaker 1: I forgot gym shoes and so I was halfway there

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Speaker 2: I love I love the peloton Like, I mean, you've

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Speaker 2: got Alex who's always been.

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Speaker 5: It's great, you know, Ali.

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Speaker 6: I used to do it like every single day, and

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Speaker 6: then I moved apartments last summer and I joined a

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Speaker 6: new gym, and then I.

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Speaker 5: Just was like, especially living alone, there's.

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Speaker 6: Some days where I'm like, Wow, I haven't seen or

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Speaker 6: talked to another human being all day, and so I'm

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Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, there's my dose of being social.

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Speaker 1: I may not have. You guys have delation pull ups, Kendra,

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Speaker 1: not the ones who you go up, but the ones

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Speaker 1: you go down. Yeah, there's the other day I couldn't

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Speaker 5: Arms for like breathing. But you're you're my motivation because

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Speaker 5: you're you're better at those of the I am, well,

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Speaker 5: my goal to be able to do one singular pull

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Speaker 5: up and how close were you to doing that? You know?

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Speaker 6: I did hulk out last week and just like fripped

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Speaker 6: one out and then I was like, oh, that's amazing,

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Speaker 6: and then I tried it again and I have it

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Speaker 6: with no band or not no band.

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Speaker 5: I was just like standing around and I just.

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Speaker 2: Was like, how tall are you? I am five eight okay,

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Speaker 2: and you have long arms ish, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think are more legs than arms, but.

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Speaker 1: You're more like, yeah, you're you're more You're more legs

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Speaker 1: and jokes that Malika.

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Speaker 5: Has t Rex arms and our.

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Speaker 2: Should be able to do like at least five.

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Speaker 1: I am still working on my one, but the band

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Speaker 1: has gone way down thanks to Kendri's pushing me, so

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Speaker 1: the band has gotten much later. And now I'm working

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Speaker 1: on the de Celebration one so I get that control

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Speaker 1: and age those lats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm working on that. Where did you guys grow up?

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Speaker 5: So we grew up in the Bay Area, Yeah, we

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Speaker 5: grew up in Oakland.

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Speaker 2: And were you did just you guys the only siblings

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Speaker 2: or do you have more. It's just us too, And

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Speaker 2: who's older?

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Speaker 1: I am two and a half years Okay.

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Speaker 5: She texted me the.

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Speaker 1: Other day and she goes, hey, you know that jacket.

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Speaker 1: Well first I was looking for her shoes for like

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Speaker 1: two months and.

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Speaker 5: I was like, where are those shoes? And I texted her,

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Speaker 5: I said, do you at the end I have these

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Speaker 5: shoes that I've been looking for. She goes, oh, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, that jacket that you were when

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Speaker 1: you were in town the other day, because you know

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Speaker 1: it's always cold when I go back up to the

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Speaker 5: Uh, those air pods that you've been looking for, you left.

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Speaker 1: Them in the pocket and I said that was August.

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Speaker 5: You let me buy a whole new pair.

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Speaker 6: Literally, I had to warn that jacket in months and

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Speaker 6: I put it on, and honestly, one of the greatest

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Speaker 6: things about winter is when you put on a jacket

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Speaker 6: that you hunt more and you're like, you buy.

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Speaker 5: Slip clos.

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Speaker 2: Right, sunglasses?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, so I'll be getting those back at Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, we grew up in the barrier.

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Speaker 1: Our dad is a personal trainer, so that's where we

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Speaker 1: kind of get a little bit of the gym competition

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Speaker 1: and artist and art teacher. But yeah, we grew up

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Speaker 2: That's where you get your artistry and your commentary, right,

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Speaker 2: that's where you can get flowery and you can.

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Speaker 5: My mother would be my mother would be nodding along. Yes,

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Speaker 5: would like that, but neither one of us. Did you

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Speaker 5: draw candy? No? I can't. I can't.

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Speaker 1: I was doodling the other day and I looked at

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have one doodle and it's the same doodle

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Speaker 5: Then it's literally like I just draw a little like swirlies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and kind of like that is the isn't that weird?

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Speaker 2: We all have it?

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Speaker 4: I have.

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Speaker 2: I do arrows, no idea why I just draw arrows.

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Speaker 5: And it's kind of crazy when you're talking about people.

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Speaker 1: As people that someone has the exact same two you know,

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Speaker 1: ten fingers, two hands that I do and creates what

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Speaker 1: you know Monette did and I can do it, and

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, that's not great.

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Speaker 6: But it's because I even feel like in some other

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Speaker 6: aspects of my life, like I don't know if you

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Speaker 6: felt this when you write a story or if you've

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Speaker 6: ever like worked on a project and you felt this too.

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Speaker 6: But like, sometimes I'll write a story, I'll do something,

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Speaker 6: I'm like I did Like did I do that? Like

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Speaker 6: there's no way that was my brain to my.

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Speaker 6: No, during when Malika got married, a dear family friend

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Speaker 5: She has such just like an.

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Speaker 6: And I've always told her she has given me some

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Speaker 5: Like, where is second?

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. I love that, And that's the.

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Speaker 2: So we gotta I gotta tell you guys, holy shit.

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Speaker 5: You know, kend you go, you're giving the Oakland, You're

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Speaker 6: I don't you know, we grew up. So we grew

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Speaker 5: And proudly do you.

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Speaker 6: No, I think you know we grew up like a

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Speaker 6: It's such such a normal way, Like Malika mentioned, our

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Speaker 5: It's kind of wild to me.

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Speaker 5: But like Kendra and I have.

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Speaker 5: We've always enjoyed doing similar things.

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Speaker 1: And so it's always really interesting to me when I

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Speaker 5: When I plucked all.

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Speaker 6: There's no way in hell she was going to have

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Speaker 6: Nothing is as bad as when she plucked my eyebrows

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Speaker 2: She plucked your eye.

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Speaker 5: The early two thousands, no one had eyebrows.

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Speaker 2: I remember.

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Speaker 5: Shout out, shout out.

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Speaker 6: To Lily Collins really quickly because I feel like she

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Speaker 5: Like, there's definitely a lot of that going on. So

443
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 5: Kendra and I have.

444
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 1: Always been really really close, to the to the point

445
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker 1: that our group chat me Kendra and Dave.

446
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 5: Our group chat name is fave fam. And my mother

447
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 5: saw that at one point, and.

448
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 1: Even though it's just the two of us and we're

449
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 1: sip like, she was very affected that we could even

450
00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,360
Speaker 1: think of ourselves as like, she's my favorite her, she's

451
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 1: my baby sister.

452
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 2: Did you guys grow up It sounded like you grew

453
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 2: up with a very love with in a loving family

454
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 2: with very loving parents. Yeah. Right, So that is probably

455
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 2: one of the reasons why you guys are also so close.

456
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 5: You know, I kind of mentioned for my mom.

457
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 6: Our mom is one of four, and so she understands

458
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 6: the value of siblinghood and sister She's two sisters, one brother,

459
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 6: sisterhood through having that and how close he was. Our

460
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 6: dad's an only child, and he values sisterhood and siblinghood

461
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 6: through the fact that he didn't have that and he

462
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 6: wants wanted us so badly to have that, just like

463
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 6: unbreakable relationship and the like the greatest thing that our

464
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,959
Speaker 6: parents have always done is I mean set us up

465
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 6: for nothing but success. And I think only people agree

466
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 6: with me at some points. There are moments when we

467
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 6: were growing up is like, why are you doing this

468
00:21:59,200 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 6: to me?

469
00:21:59,560 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 1: Right?

470
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 5: And it's very common for.

471
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 6: Any adolescent, any child, is you're you're ruining my life

472
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 6: and what Then now, when we're sitting here in our

473
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 6: mid and late twenties, we can look back and say, oh,

474
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 6: that is exactly why, and we're so much better off

475
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 6: of it, and.

476
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck, I hope my kids say the same thing.

477
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: Kender would stick up for me, like Kendra would go

478
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 1: to bat for me when I would get into it

479
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: with my parents, which.

480
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 5: In my teenage years I really really did.

481
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 1: Hendraw would like go back to my dad after he

482
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 1: literally took my door off. Remember but he literally took

483
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: and took my door off of the handle, and would say, like,

484
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, oh she would she was always going to.

485
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 5: Bat for me, and so I think it's super.

486
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: Cliche, but growing up my dad would always say, you know,

487
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: your sister's your best friend. I would sort of roll

488
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: my eyes and say, no, name of insert name of

489
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: friend here is my best friend or insert this gal

490
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 1: I go to the mall with is my best friend?

491
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 5: And fast forward.

492
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: Truly, you know, I Hendraw has so many friends. I

493
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: can't even keep up with anymore. Your friends left and right,

494
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: but I have a very small circle.

495
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: I'm like you, I have a few friends. I don't

496
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 2: know it.

497
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: People are like, who's your who's your best friend?

498
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 5: And like, does my sister cat right?

499
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: You know, I have a handful, but she's kind of

500
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: at the top of the list. All the good and

501
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: all of the Our minds are also really similar. The

502
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 1: same things make us anxious. We like hyper fixate on

503
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: certain things.

504
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 2: We both you know, so yeah, no, I know, I

505
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 2: mean my I've said this before, but you know, we

506
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 2: came from sort of a divorce, not sort of a

507
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: divorce situation where my sister needed me to be her

508
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 2: older brother, but I couldn't do it because I didn't

509
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 2: have the capacity to do that, you know what I'm saying.

510
00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 2: And it fractured our relationship, but not in a sense

511
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: that there was an inciting incident. It was just the

512
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 2: circumstances and you know, only later in life did we

513
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: actually come together, yeah, and really sort of find each

514
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: other and fall in love essentially, you know what I'm saying.

515
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 2: But it took a minute.

516
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think something that had Amilika kind of mentioned

517
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 6: it before and it's and it could have I think

518
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,959
Speaker 6: gone that direction what you're saying and what you're talking

519
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 6: about with your your childhood and growing up in relationship

520
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 6: with your sisters. When Malika went to boarding school, I

521
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 6: think that that could have been a moment because we

522
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 6: really I think there was a spam Aliko correct me,

523
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 6: but like for three four months we just didn't talk

524
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 6: because of the circumstances, and that could have been a

525
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 6: place where you really just well, I got to carry

526
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 6: on with my life. You need to do you and

527
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 6: we kind of went our opposite ways, and I think

528
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 6: in some crazy amazing way it brought us so much

529
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 6: closer together, and it like helped us build this bond

530
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 6: where we don't we don't need to talk every day.

531
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 6: Some people they're like, how's your Like how's Malica. I'm like,

532
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 6: she like I I we don't have these caps here,

533
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 6: like I have no idea onto her.

534
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 5: I'd like to work. Sometimes they're like, oh, I saw

535
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 5: your sisters, Like, oh, how is she?

536
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, we don't have we don't.

537
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 5: Have these great catch up conversations.

538
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that. That's how my That's how we

539
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 2: are with my family, you know. And you guys are

540
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 2: on the road, you guys are doing your ship like

541
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: and and you know, my family's the same way. I

542
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: mean why it's in Australia. Kate's in New Jersey. I

543
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: was just in New Jersey, Kurt's in Australia.

544
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 7: Moms over here, we're always working, So it's we just

545
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 7: know that it's the love is will always be there

546
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 7: and it doesn't have to be checking in all the time,

547
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 7: like hey, you know I love you.

548
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 1: As you were talking, I just I realized I have

549
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: a two minute voice memo that I still need to

550
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: listen to from you that I'm sorry.

551
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 5: I'll get back I haven't listened to it yet, my bad.

552
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 5: But every once in a while we get it into.

553
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 6: That communication and it's it's that whole convers but it's

554
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 6: not it's never this recap of what's happened, what's going

555
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 6: It's just let's just talk in.

556
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 5: Present time and what's on your mind, What's what are you?

557
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 5: What are you doing? What's going on here?

558
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 6: But it's it's this, it's I don't know, we've just

559
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 6: I feel like I have this.

560
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 2: Is there ever any envy or jealousy, you know, or

561
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: anything like that? I mean there has was there any friction.

562
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 6: I think as a younger sister, Like as the younger sibling,

563
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 6: there's always going to be a little bit of jealousy,

564
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 6: right like whether it's like why does she she got

565
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 6: to do this and I didn't get to do this.

566
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 5: Or she gets to stay out later that I do, or.

567
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 6: Whatever it is. I think that there's always, but there's never.

568
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 6: I don't think that we've ever actually had a like

569
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 6: a full on sibling fight where things are like.

570
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 5: Not like an adult. I mean we've had you know, kids, what's.

571
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: Spray with me or whatever, but not as an adult. No,

572
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: But I think I will say, you know, we kind

573
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: of a boarding school, residential treatment.

574
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 5: That's where I kind of was for four years.

575
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: I did feel a little bit when I came back

576
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: because I didn't see you for the large part of

577
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: four years. Like I see you like maybe once, say no,

578
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: you're ish. It's sort of like you miss all of

579
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: this stuff that happens. And so there's a lot between

580
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: the ages of twelve and sixteen, like you became a

581
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: whole person, and I wasn't there for it, right, So

582
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: I do think there is still whether or not we

583
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: talk about it, or whether or not I say this,

584
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: there's still a little part of me that feels like

585
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: I missed out on seeing at least every day some

586
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: of your most formative years.

587
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 5: You didn't miss much about this, Like I, you know,

588
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 5: not say.

589
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 1: We're going to be charging you a copey for our

590
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: family therapy sessions. But you know, I do feel a

591
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: little bit of that.

592
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 2: And so whether there's guilt behind that or no, it's not.

593
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 5: So much guilty.

594
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: You were just doing what you were doing. You're just

595
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: living your life.

596
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: That's true. But I do think there's a little bit.

597
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: I remember distinctly when Kendra went to her senior prom

598
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: something that I, you know, as a boarding school kid,

599
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: never did. I distinctly remember seeing that and saying to myself,

600
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this isn't the twelve year old that

601
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: I left. She's a whole person.

602
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: Wow.

603
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: So now you know, And when you're that close, when

604
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: you're as close as we are, that's weird.

605
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 5: When it's when you're you know, siblings who just sort.

606
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: Of live in the same house, I think that maybe

607
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: that's fine, But for me, it was something that I

608
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: really said to myself, gosh, like, I I don't feel

609
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: guilty now, but I do feel like I'm missing something

610
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: and I don't want to miss anything else.

611
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 5: So I think that that was a little bit of

612
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 5: that feeling.

613
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: Because as much as we described how close we were

614
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: and how much we did and how much our lives

615
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: mirrored each other, those couple of years, was the first

616
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: time we weren't the Andrews sisters.

617
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 5: It was Malika over here and Kendra over there.

618
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: Right, did boys ever get in the way? Meaning like, oh,

619
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: she has a boyfriend, like taking me away from my sister.

620
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: No, like all of us are like, oh, like there

621
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: was was, because I was like, man, I wish that

622
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: would have been kind of a cool I.

623
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 6: Like playing back all the guys that we went to there, like,

624
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 6: I'm just like, oh.

625
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 5: No, I like Kendra's boyfriends.

626
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: But Malika, why did you go to boarding school? And Kendra?

627
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: You did not?

628
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: I went to boarding school because I had some mental

629
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: health attitude.

630
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: You did that I needed to.

631
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: Kind of confront.

632
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 5: And so there was Kendra.

633
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: I always sort of wondered whether Kendra had some of

634
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: those same demons that I did, but they weren't at

635
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: the point where I had them, and so at least

636
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: at that time, right, And so I went to boarding school,

637
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: Kendra didn't.

638
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: Did you want to go to boarding school? Or was

639
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: this sort of like you're going to boarding school? I mean,

640
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: I got threatened with military school, you know. I was like,

641
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: you're going to go to military school. I meanwhile, I'm like, Mom,

642
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: You're never fucking sending me to military school. It was

643
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: too bad.

644
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 5: My parents will make good.

645
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: On that boarding school. I would have maybe gotten scared,

646
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: but I'm like, Mom's not sending me to military school.

647
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah she's not.

648
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: My parents made good on that, on that promise, and

649
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: it was I recognized, right, it was it was serious

650
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: enough that I recognized I needed some sort of help.

651
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't think I realized when I was leaving home

652
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: that I was going to be gone for as long

653
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 1: as I was and having to sort of do as

654
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: much work as I did.

655
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: Life changing would you say, yeah, I.

656
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: Mean it's made me who I am. Ye, right, certainly

657
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: certainly formative. Right, I was gone from fourteen to eighteen,

658
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: And so I think that that sort of Kendra was,

659
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: you know, you talk about sports and all these other things.

660
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: Kendra was sort of she likes to say that it

661
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: was her idea to go into this industry first, and

662
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: I could admit it was like she sort of in

663
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: high school was going towards this, right, She was sort

664
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: of already looking towards this career path, and I was

665
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: just kind of trying to put one foot in front

666
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: of the other. I think in a little bit different

667
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: of a way. But I think later or right now,

668
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 1: when I say that we have the same sort of

669
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: worries and anxieties, and I think that we're much more

670
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: similar in the way that we sort of think about

671
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: the world now. And so that's something that I think

672
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: brings us together to because when I say, oh, this

673
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: is something that I'm worrying about she goes, I got you,

674
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: I was worried about like three days ago, like this

675
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: is how you know?

676
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: That was comfort in that camaraderie one hundred percent.

677
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: I think we think about the world very very similarly,

678
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: and so I think that that helps us and the

679
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: way they talk.

680
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: When you were when your parents were going to send

681
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: you to boarding school, were you upset with them or

682
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: did you understand at that time because you're so young.

683
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 5: I think it.

684
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: Happened so quickly that there wasn't really time to sit

685
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: back and look at the thirty thousand foot view of everything, right.

686
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: I think it was.

687
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 5: Something that.

688
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: Steamrolled so fast that it was not something that I said,

689
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: oh okay, because I wasn't given the opportunity to say,

690
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: oh okay, this is the four year plan. It was

691
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: sort of, this is the plan today, and you need

692
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: that sort of help.

693
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 5: And I think explaining that to Kendra was also you.

694
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 6: Know, yeah, I mean I think I think for probably

695
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 6: most of those four years, I didn't no, like I

696
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 6: didn't know what was going on because like as much

697
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 6: as I always, like Malika said, would protect her, and

698
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 6: as unhappy of a person you were when we were together,

699
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,239
Speaker 6: you were always happy, and so for me, there was like, well,

700
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 6: there's no signs that she's dealing with these inner demons

701
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 6: because we always have a great time. And also again,

702
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 6: like I'm twelve years old, it's kind of hard to

703
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 6: to start having these you know, topics that Luckily, over

704
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 6: the past however many years, like the topic of mental

705
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 6: health has become so open, which is important, but back then,

706
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 6: you know, this is two thousand nine ten. How do

707
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 6: you like explain You're explaining to your sixth grader, like

708
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 6: what depression is and what like how these things come about.

709
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 5: It's it's you know, harder.

710
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 6: And I do think that that also like directed me

711
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 6: on my own, as Malik was saying, like my own

712
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 6: mental health journey in a very in a very different

713
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 6: way saying I got you into therapy.

714
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 5: Is that what you're saying, You're the reason why I'm

715
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 5: in therapy is.

716
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: Well, I mean this is really amazing a cool conversation,

717
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I've I'm on lexapro. I've had anxiety, yeah,

718
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: for a long ass time, and it's something that I've

719
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 2: been dealing with since I was twenty three or twenty four.

720
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 2: I'm forty eight years old. And you know, I watched

721
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: my son sort of suffer through it a little bit

722
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: for about month month and a half. I had to

723
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: take him out of school. I'm very versed in it,

724
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: you know, And for me it was about sort of

725
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: discovering where it came from through therapy, meditation, journaling. I

726
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: went to this place called the Hoffmann Institute, which was

727
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: really incredible, you know, going through this process of what

728
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 2: do I have to be? What's going on?

729
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: You know?

730
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, I came from a product of divorce,

731
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: but life is pretty fucking good, you know what I'm saying.

732
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: Discovering sort of is it a chemical imbalance or is

733
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: this something else? And it was I guess a little

734
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: bit of both, you know, but just sort of unpacking

735
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: your shit and trying to figure out where it all

736
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: is coming from. It's it's it's arduous, it's hard, it's

737
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: not gnarally.

738
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 5: And the other thing, too, is.

739
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 6: Half of that of unpacking and learning the roots of

740
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 6: it and the thing that I've always struggled with in

741
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 6: my life. I always tell people, or if I start,

742
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 6: I've seen a couple of different therapists over the different

743
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 6: stages of my life, and now I can walk into

744
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 6: a session and say, oh, I can tell you exactly

745
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 6: the reasons.

746
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 5: Why I am the way I am.

747
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: I just don't.

748
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 6: I don't do a good job at dealing with It's

749
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 6: the moving forward of I understand why and the way

750
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 6: I am. But the coping skills I think that's the

751
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 6: other half of therapy, and just getting to know your

752
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 6: mental health and your brain is like really really difficult

753
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 6: to do.

754
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, totally. I totally. And then we're going

755
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: to move on to other stuff. But I love this

756
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: is such a topic I love talking about. But it's

757
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: so true. And my wife said something early early on,

758
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: you know, she said, yeah, you see it. You understand

759
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 2: what your problems are, but you really haven't done anything

760
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: to try to fix it. I'm like, oh, yeah, you're

761
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: kind of right.

762
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 5: You know.

763
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: The the question what's wrong is fundamentally flawed because oftentimes,

764
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: with my own journey through all of this, and I've

765
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: talked about it before, is that this isn't a beginning,

766
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: middle and end story, right, It's ongoing, and oftentimes there

767
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: isn't an answer. Kinder and we're kids, you know. She

768
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: would try to ask me, like Nika, what's wrong? And

769
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: I didn't have an answer for her, and I still

770
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: don't have an answer now because oftentimes there isn't a

771
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: moment or a thing that happened, and I remember wishing

772
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: at times for a simple answer to that question so

773
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: that I could explain what's wrong and so someone could

774
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: give me advice about what happened, and then everything moves

775
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: on and.

776
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 5: It's just not that meat.

777
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: But that's what's kind of cool with because we think

778
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: so similarly in that way. I think both Kender and

779
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: I have sort of this unspoken language that I if

780
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: you don't have that with someone, try to find it,

781
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: because like that's.

782
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so great, and it's just so spot on.

783
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm literally going through this right now where

784
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: I have this weird anxiety, not debilitating, but in my

785
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 2: throat and I'm like, what the fuck is going? Why yet?

786
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: And then just through you know, my experience with it

787
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 2: for years and years, I'm like, well, who cares? It's there,

788
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: and like just okay, accept it and live like I

789
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: don't know, stop asking so many questions. I guess, yeah, right, okay,

790
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: we did our mental health stuff.

791
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: I wish it was so simple, right, I wish you

792
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: could just crack it off.

793
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: I'm good. We did that. Check everywhere. We're all healed.

794
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: Everyone's healed, perfect, done. I'll say about ball, how this happened?

795
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 2: You guys work? Are you work together on ESPN? Basically? Right?

796
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 5: Basically on the days we're lucky.

797
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 4: You know.

798
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 5: It's so funny because.

799
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 6: Like we going back to like our family are because

800
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 6: both of our parents worked growing up, but they still do.

801
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 6: And our family time after school after work was dinner.

802
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 5: And then what NBA game is on?

803
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: And let me paint you a picture.

804
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 5: There were no.

805
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: iPod iPads to watch your own individual movie after dinner.

806
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 5: Netflix didn't even NETFLI Netflix.

807
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: There was nothing.

808
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 5: To have tap Buster. You had to go to Blockbuster.

809
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: So you we had as a family to earn our

810
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: negotiating skills. Had to come to the table with what

811
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: it is we wanted to watch, and everybody had to agree.

812
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: And oftentimes the only thing you could agree to put

813
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: on the single t TV in the house was the

814
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: Warriors game, yeah.

815
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 6: Or the San Antonio Spurs Spurs space.

816
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

817
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 5: The Warriors were not very good. I have a vivid

818
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 5: memory of Malika.

819
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 6: It was a Warrior Spurs game and she couldn't decide

820
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 6: who she wanted to rock with more. So she wore

821
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 6: all silver and black, but then pretty heinous yellow and

822
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 6: blue accessories, and.

823
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, this is a direct was this?

824
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: Was this like the genoble Duncan was the.

825
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 4: Genobdu Tony Parker Bob Yeah, iteration of the Spurs, the

826
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 4: embers of the dynasty of the.

827
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: Best most boring player to ever play the games.

828
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tim Duncan.

829
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: So I think we kind of yeah, the big Yeah,

830
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: the big fundamental. So you know, I always really really

831
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: loved writing.

832
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 5: School was a.

833
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: Place that you know, journaling, writing short stories, English was

834
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: my favorite subject.

835
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 5: I really loved to.

836
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: Write, and I always knew that that's sort of a

837
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: path that maybe I could see myself going down, but

838
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 1: didn't really know how or what until I got to college.

839
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: And then I joined the school newspaper and the only

840
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: opening they had was in sports, and so I sort

841
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: of ended up on that path. Versus for Kendra, I

842
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: think there was a different connection.

843
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 6: I also liked writing, and for me it was kind

844
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 6: of process of elimination.

845
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 5: Like I went to a very hard college preparatory.

846
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: School, and so they take you.

847
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 6: Getting into college very seriously and they match you with

848
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 6: a college counselor what do you want to study?

849
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: What do you want to be?

850
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,479
Speaker 5: And I didn't love school. I'm not good at math,

851
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 5: I'm not good at science.

852
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 6: But I always liked the writing and the creative writing

853
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 6: at that point. But anyway, I was also so that

854
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 6: was one side of my brain and likes and the other.

855
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 5: I just loved watching sports.

856
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 6: And I remember like I would make flashcards about different

857
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 6: rosters or different positions, like I just really wanted to

858
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 6: learn about all these sports.

859
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 5: I'm not a athlete myself, so and I think I might.

860
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 5: I was with my dad. We were either.

861
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 6: Watching NBC Sports Bay Area or ESPN or something, and

862
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 6: I think it was NBC Sports because ros gold On Woode,

863
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 6: who's a black woman who was hired to be the

864
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 6: Warrior sideline reporter, and you know, we just didn't see

865
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 6: many women who looked like us on TV. And I

866
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 6: was watching Roz do her thing, and I looked at

867
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 6: my dad and I said, Dad, she gets paid to

868
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 6: talk about stuff and about the Warriors in basket I'm

869
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 6: going to do. I think I was probably sixteen at

870
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 6: the time. I was like, that is what I'm gonna do,

871
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 6: and It's funny because my dad says, now he said

872
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 6: in the moment, he goes, yeah, Kendy, that's that's great.

873
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 6: He says, Now I was I thought you were crazy,

874
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 6: like of course, but no way you would actually do that?

875
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

876
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, world.

877
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 6: But and so I went to college, no, like, I

878
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 6: majored in journalism, and the day on campus, I was like,

879
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 6: where's the school paper?

880
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 5: And how do I get involved?

881
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: So staying on your process really quickly. So you go

882
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: to college, and then was the goal? Was still that

883
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: childhood goal? Still the goal? Meaning like I went to

884
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: journalism school. Now boom, I'm gonna I'm going to be

885
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: on the sidelines at the fucking the ward.

886
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 6: It's funny because I went through like a little bob

887
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 6: and weave of what the actual goal was, Like I

888
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 6: think I went to college or I first started to

889
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 6: pursue this thinking I want to be on TV. And actually,

890
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 6: through Malika, I was introduced to this woman Janie McCaulay,

891
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 6: who works for the Associated Press, and she kind of

892
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 6: gave me my first taste at all this. But she's

893
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 6: a writer, and so my first actual taste of doing

894
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 6: this job was writing. And so I actually switched my

895
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 6: major from broadcast to written journalism, and I was like,

896
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 6: I'm diving into writing headfirst, and that's what I did

897
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 6: for four years of college. My first job out of

898
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 6: college was only writing, which was great. And I think,

899
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 6: I mean, some of the best advice I've gotten, maybe

900
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 6: Milik has gotten. That Milik has given me is just

901
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 6: like how important writing is. And then for me, the

902
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 6: TV thing didn't really pop back into this might be

903
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 6: something I wanted to pursue until the opportunity presented itself

904
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 6: and then it was like, wait ooh, this does get

905
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 6: me a little bit excited. That's something that when I

906
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 6: first set out on this was exciting to me and

907
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 6: I was.

908
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: Interested in.

909
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 5: Wow and that I never thought I would end up

910
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 5: covering the team that we.

911
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: That's so amazing crazy And obviously you're a fan and

912
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: you're allowed to be a you don't have to be partial,

913
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: right or.

914
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 5: Do you very partial?

915
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 6: It's funny because being so close to them, like you

916
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 6: really do take the fan out of it?

917
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 2: And do you do?

918
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 6: And I'm very grateful to have gotten to experience the

919
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 6: fandom days that I didn't.

920
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: Laughing because I was just thinking about like if do

921
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: you think I was thinking about the phrase of how

922
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: the sausage gets made, and like, do you think that

923
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: people who make sausages eat sausages?

924
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: Yes, they have to try.

925
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 8: Like because I think at some point you get so

926
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 8: close to it, you see people as opposed to these

927
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 8: The thing about sports, which is so awesome and so

928
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 8: cool is I truly believe that sports, maybe movie stars

929
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 8: to some degree, are the closest things to real life

930
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 8: superheroes as you can possibly get.

931
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: And sport it's so interesting because there is a physical

932
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: component to it, right. There is a ability that somebody

933
00:44:55,640 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: has Lebron James, Steph Curry, Serena Williams that most of

934
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: us do not. There's this literal power that you see

935
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: that you can play the sport, but it doesn't look

936
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: the same when you do it as when they do.

937
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: It's sort of it really is. This hero thing that

938
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: happens in sports is so unique to sports, and I

939
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: think when you get to know the person, when you

940
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: get to know the people, when you see the wonderful,

941
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: wonderful things, when you see the works in progress of

942
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: an athlete of a person, I do think that takes

943
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: away some of In order to be a fan, there

944
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: has to be this unbridled sort of reverence.

945
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 5: That has to exist, and I do think.

946
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: That naturally gets peeled back the more humanized someone becomes.

947
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: And so when you spend five, six, seven days a

948
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: week seeing a person, that person becomes human and less

949
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: of a superhero. And I think that that's sort of

950
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: where sports and fandom starts to interact. However, there is

951
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: nothing cooler than seeing our job through my father's our

952
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: father's eyes, right, Like, that's when you kind of go

953
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: back to the fan piece of it. Because when he

954
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: came with us to the opening of the Valkyries, the

955
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: new Golden State Warriors, the new Golden State women's basketball team,

956
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: and Steph was there seeing him talk to Steph. Was

957
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: that seeing him come into studio when all of us

958
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: we all have get two jobs.

959
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 5: Acting working in sports.

960
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: Their get two jobs, not have two jobs, right, You

961
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: get to go and do this, but it still work.

962
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 5: There's still days.

963
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: We're like, oh this is annoying, Oh my god, I

964
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: gotta go talk to this person.

965
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 5: Oh why did I not forget this email? Whatever? The

966
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 5: thing is, right, you.

967
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: Get sort of jaded to the specialness in some ways.

968
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: So it's a really nice reminder when dad comes into

969
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 1: studio and it's just like, this is the coolest thing.

970
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,959
Speaker 2: In the entire bring.

971
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: That when you're on a set all day, right, aren't

972
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: you sort of like all I want to do is

973
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: come home?

974
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I want your kids.

975
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: Maybe you're like like it's a totally different thing.

976
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know that's that's so great. But but

977
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: hold on. If Steph hits a game winning three in

978
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: Game seven of the Western Conference Finals, are you on

979
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: the sidelight You're just like, okay, great and you were

980
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: are you not cheering?

981
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 6: The thing is is, well, sometimes this is what I've

982
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 6: experienced with myself.

983
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 5: I'm curious your answer, Well, to me.

984
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 6: Now, whether I'm on my couch at Homeme, whether I'm

985
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 6: sitting at a game, if someone hits a ridiculous shot,

986
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 6: I will react. But it could be Steph, it could

987
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 6: be brawn over stuff. It could be Kevin Durant, It'll

988
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 6: be Joelle. And like, it's crazy when we when I

989
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 6: was watching the Olympics, right and Steph hit was overtem.

990
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 5: You, I mean oh I was. I was yelling like

991
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 5: that was crazy? Right?

992
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 6: But as so, like Malika said, it's the get to

993
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 6: versus half two jobs and those moments where you're like,

994
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 6: this job is so great no matter how many six

995
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 6: am flights. I haven't been home in two weeks, I

996
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 6: don't know what city I'm in, I don't know what

997
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 6: time it is, But at the end of the day,

998
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 6: I can watch a handful of the most incredible athletes

999
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 6: in the world do what they do. And then to

1000
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 6: bring it back also to the fan thing of relate

1001
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 6: that to people who still view these guys as here

1002
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 6: is I think one of the special things that I

1003
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 6: really do try and navigate my job with is the

1004
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 6: fact that I have been that person obsessed with a team,

1005
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 6: right I understand how important the Warriors are to the

1006
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 6: Bay Area. And so when I'm trying to tell a story,

1007
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 6: or even if it's a negative story, if I'm trying

1008
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 6: to report news, what did.

1009
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 5: I care about as that person watching this team? What

1010
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 5: did I want to know?

1011
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 6: And I try and hold that with me as I

1012
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 6: kind of navigate my job.

1013
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: Do you ever have to worry about sort of what

1014
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: you say you know or you know as far as

1015
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: how candid you can actually be? I mean, do you

1016
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 2: worry about sort of saying the wrong things to both

1017
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: of you guys? Where it's like, you know, that's what

1018
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to do. You know, you look at Barkley,

1019
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: You'll say, whatever the fuck comes to his mind, you know.

1020
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: Well, can I tell you about the first time Kendra

1021
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 1: and I were on TV together?

1022
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 5: Yes, on ESPN. It gets to this.

1023
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: So I remember when I was I was wearing white

1024
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: and my hair was in a top where you were.

1025
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: I remember, But I remember Kendra was coming on MBA today,

1026
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: and it was in our first year of the show,

1027
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: and something happened.

1028
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 5: It was it wouldn't have been.

1029
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: It was.

1030
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 5: You couldn't have seen it.

1031
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: If you were just watching it at home and not

1032
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: looking for it, you wouldn't have seen it. But something

1033
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: went wrong with the video or the toss to bring

1034
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: her in, and it was something that was less than perfect,

1035
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: but again perfect to ten.

1036
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 5: This was like an eight point five.

1037
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: It didn't rise to the level of, you know, anything noticeable.

1038
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 1: And I bring her in and I say, uh, welcome

1039
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: into MBA today. Our reporter covering the Golden State Warriors,

1040
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: Kendra Andrews.

1041
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 5: Kendra tell me about Da da Da Da Da Da Da.

1042
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: She does her report and then afterwards I think I

1043
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: said something because I wanted to be serious, right.

1044
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 5: I wanted to prove like we did co exist on

1045
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 5: television together.

1046
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: You didn't want to be like hey exactly.

1047
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: But at the end I was sort of like this,

1048
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: let's do this again sometime. And I remember we got

1049
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: off that into the commercial break and I sort of

1050
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: I went to my producer and I said, like, gosh, guys,

1051
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: like I really wanted to nail this and we didn't,

1052
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: and there were some things we could have done better.

1053
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: And I just really feel like, again assuming the big

1054
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: sister role, like I really wanted it to be like

1055
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: perfect for her. And they were sort of, you know,

1056
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: they work with me every day. We have this free

1057
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: flowing feedback. They sort of said, I mean we hear you.

1058
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: And that was pretty close. Like that was pretty dang good.

1059
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: And now watching it back, it was totally fine. But

1060
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: I had so much. I had so much, so many

1061
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 1: jitters because I wanted to be absolutely perfect the first

1062
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: time that Kendra was doing TV with me. I care

1063
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: way more about setting her up to not say the

1064
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: wrong thing to your than me, because of course it's

1065
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: an it's a I think that the thing that I've

1066
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: had to come to terms with is the hour that

1067
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: you spend on television I spend on television every day,

1068
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: is just a snapshot into our basketball fandom, not even close.

1069
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 5: To a full representation of who we are.

1070
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: But I think sometimes that can be a little bit misconstrued.

1071
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 5: And so of course there's the I wouldn't even call

1072
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 5: it pressure.

1073
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: I would say the privilege of putting together a show

1074
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: and wanting to do the best that you can.

1075
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 5: And of course I worry.

1076
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: I worry about every single thing that I say, because

1077
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: I know that if I say something wrong, oftentimes it's

1078
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: not attributed to a mistake that I made, but rather

1079
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: my validity in being.

1080
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 5: There or not. But I care way more about it

1081
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 5: for her than I do for me.

1082
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I get that, you know. First of all,

1083
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 2: I wanted to get your story on how you came up,

1084
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 2: you know, and became what you've become, because you're the

1085
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: figure there, and then we'll get to that in another time.

1086
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: But I'm really curious about just being a female, you know,

1087
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: in the industry, and what it took or if you

1088
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: felt that there was a harder path for you guys

1089
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: to get there, and is it harder for you to

1090
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: maintain being there or are you pretty free and comfortable

1091
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: in where you are as a woman in sports analyzing

1092
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: basket ball where mostly men are taking on your opinion.

1093
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's a question that I think both

1094
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: of us get a lot, is what is it like

1095
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: to be this? It's the only thing I know, The

1096
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 1: only way I know how to move through the world

1097
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: is as a black woman, and that's how I walk

1098
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: through every part of my how we walk.

1099
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 5: Through every part of our lives.

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Speaker 1: And so of course there is some sort of weight

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00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: that I feel or responsibility to make sure that I

1102
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 1: am leaving this for other people it should be easier

1103
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: for them than.

1104
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 5: It was for me.

1105
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: I felt that with Kendra right, particularly because I came

1106
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: to ESPN before she did, and so I wanted to

1107
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: be a good reflection of what it is to be

1108
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: an Andrew's sister. But I think that it's just a

1109
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: fact there are fewer women in this industry than there

1110
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: are men, and there are some people who are looking

1111
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: to attribute your mistakes to your gender and your.

1112
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 5: Right to be somewhere.

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00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: However, I will say that when I am walking through

1114
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: an arena, right, and I've had a dad, there's a

1115
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 1: picture of the dad took of his little girl who has.

1116
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 5: This adorable cheindra seen in this picture. So she knows this.

1117
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: Adorable big curly hair and she's standing in front of

1118
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,479
Speaker 1: the TV and she's pointing at me with my big

1119
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: curly hair when it's out. And he showed me that

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00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: picture and he said, can we take a photo? I

1121
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: want to show this to my daughter. And I broadcast

1122
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: for that fan. I don't broadcast to prove someone wrong.

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00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: I don't go into a broadcast to prove to this person.

1124
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 5: Know you're wrong. I do belong.

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00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: I go into a broadcast to show those people who

1126
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: are looking for a reason to get more involved in sports, say.

1127
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 5: Yes, we can not. This is why she can't.

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00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: And so I think that that's how you have to

1129
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: choose to look at it, because there is so much

1130
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: more of that, I think in the world. It's so

1131
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 1: easy to get bogged down into this comment or this

1132
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: like or this snapshot of an anonymous person on the internet,

1133
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: but you can't. That's not the whack a mole I play.

1134
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm playing for them, not for that beautiful.

1135
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 2: I want thirty seconds on the Warriors in this season,

1136
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 2: and then I want thirty seconds on my Lakers all right,

1137
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 2: you get your Warriors.

1138
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 5: Go You're going to take Warriors first.

1139
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: Go ahead.

1140
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 5: Okay, we're as we're sitting here recording.

1141
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 6: They have a game here in just about an hour

1142
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 6: and fifteen hour and five, but I mean they're sitting

1143
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 6: at five and one. And the thing to my report,

1144
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 6: the thing that they've been talking so much about is

1145
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 6: their depth. And they play the last three games without

1146
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 6: Stephan Curry, and they play the numbers, the point differentials

1147
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 6: and numbers are actually almost better without him here than

1148
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 6: when he was on the court, which.

1149
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 5: Is wild a really really great sign for this team.

1150
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 6: I think this next week is going to tell a

1151
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 6: lot when they play the the.

1152
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 5: MAVs and the Thunder and the Celtics.

1153
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 6: But I think the moves the way I look at

1154
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 6: them is they are a They're a better team than

1155
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 6: they were a year ago today and under the circumstances

1156
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 6: of where they were, that is all that Joe lacub

1157
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 6: and Mike Dunleyy and Steve Kurr and Steph Curry wanted.

1158
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 6: They feel that they have a lot more potential this year.

1159
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: But do you think Okay, small, very small sampling with

1160
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: Steph being out though and watching watching them win without

1161
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 2: him and seeing how the team can be cohesive without him.

1162
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: Do you think that's an attribution to the team itself

1163
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: or do you think not? I mean that that Steph

1164
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: being away is allowing them to sort of.

1165
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,959
Speaker 5: I think it's it's a cohesion of a team.

1166
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 6: It's the number of players that they play, and it's

1167
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 6: the fact that everyone they put pieces together that complement

1168
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 6: each other.

1169
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: Well.

1170
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 6: They found guys who can defend, they found guys who

1171
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 6: can score. You know, you're looking at a guy like

1172
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 6: Andrew Wiggins, who's playing, you know, a lot better so

1173
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 6: far than he has the last couple of years. You're

1174
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 6: looking at Draymond Green, who seems to be in a

1175
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 6: really really good space pasically and mentally.

1176
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: Like all of those things add up.

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00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 2: Do you miss Clay at all? Or do you not

1178
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 2: miss Clay?

1179
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 6: I think clazy great guy, plays, a great guy to

1180
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 6: have around. It was weird those first couple of weeks,

1181
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 6: not like going into the locker room and his lockers

1182
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 6: right by the door and.

1183
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 5: Turning and he's not there. It's very Mary, are.

1184
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: You there when that dude snuck in as Clay? Oh

1185
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: my god, that was insane.

1186
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 5: Why we love THEA.

1187
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: Give me my Lakers. What's going on?

1188
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 5: All right?

1189
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: Your Lakers?

1190
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 5: Anthony Davis is averaging twenty five.

1191
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: Points, just over twelve rebounds, and a little over three

1192
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: assists a game. You want the team to play through him.

1193
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: So far they are. That is translating to winning. Of course, yes,

1194
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: losing to the Cavaliers. Fine, the Cavaliers are correct at

1195
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: the time of recording undefeated.

1196
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: Fine.

1197
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: If Anthony Davis can continue to play like this, and

1198
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: Lebron James says that he's going to play in every

1199
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: single game this season, whether or not he actually plays

1200
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: in all of them.

1201
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 5: His availability. The Lakers go as those two goes.

1202
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: So if they are doing what we are seeing from

1203
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: them so far in this very very small sample.

1204
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 5: Size, they will be a middle of the West playoff team. Right.

1205
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be in that thunder

1206
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, timber Wolves tear right, but that sort of

1207
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: maybe get out of the play in, but hovering in

1208
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,959
Speaker 1: the play in, maybe sneak into sixth range.

1209
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: And then maybe surprise people in the playoffs.

1210
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. You never want to face Lebron

1211
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: James the postseason.

1212
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 5: An ever, anything can happen against Lebron James in the postseason.

1213
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 5: So they're up.

1214
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: They are true.

1215
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's just thank God to stay healthy.

1216
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 2: I know it feels like everything is hinging on a

1217
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: d right now, like it feels like it always kind

1218
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: of does.

1219
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: He's given it cut. He gave it to you guys

1220
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: last year when you know it was largely the healthiest

1221
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: Lebron and Anthony Davis that we've had. That's the one

1222
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: thing is like, Okay, you got that largely healthy year.

1223
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: They were still playing team and honestly, then they just

1224
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: ran into Denver and they were up.

1225
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 5: To most of those games and ended up anyway.

1226
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: So I think it's going to be a similar trajectory

1227
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: if they can have a healthy ad Lebron. It's similar

1228
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: run through maybe barely out of the play and play

1229
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: and range, and then it just about the straws you pull,

1230
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: because there's an argument to be made if they didn't

1231
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: run into Denver, Yeah, anything.

1232
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: May have happened. I know, I know.

1233
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 5: Denvers. We'll see, we'll see.

1234
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 2: What starting five on Netflix. You watched that? How good

1235
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 2: is that?

1236
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: You?

1237
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god? I love it so much.

1238
00:59:54,480 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 9: It's Anthony Edwards when he when his when his girl

1239
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 9: gave birth and he walks between and he goes, oh ship,

1240
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 9: He's like, he's like, he goes.

1241
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: I think it's like, that's like her liver, because that's

1242
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: like her liver.

1243
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 5: Anthony Edwards is Anthony Edwards in any room that he

1244
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 5: walks into.

1245
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 2: He seems so cool. He's one of my favorite players.

1246
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 5: So much fun. So we're so so lucky he's so

1247
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 5: much fun. Might be a problem for your speakers, No,

1248
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 5: I know, I.

1249
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: Know, of course, of course, yeah, I know. I'm gonna

1250
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 2: let you go because I have to. But thank you guys,

1251
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: so much fun.

1252
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: We had a blast.

1253
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys. Thank you, and I will be

1254
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: watching you as always.

1255
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.

1256
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 2: Thank you. Guys. Know what's fun about this is I

1257
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: get to meet all of these people who I see

1258
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 2: on TV, you know, or the Olympian that I interviewed

1259
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: right before the Olympics, or the Golden Bachelorette, you know,

1260
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: these people who are just sort of doing their thing.

1261
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 2: And then you've got Malik and Kendra, and you know,

1262
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: it just adds to the experience of when I watch them,

1263
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: I can become like a sort of a fan in

1264
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 2: the sense that, oh, I know, her. Yeah, No, I

1265
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 2: know her. I know her interviewer, and I love that.

1266
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to watch NBA today with like a different

1267
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: reverence now because I'm like, I know her, I know her. Anyway.

1268
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: That was so fun. Thank you guys, Thank you ladies

1269
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 2: so much. I really appreciate that interview, really fun. I

1270
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: wish I could have gotten more into sort of you know,

1271
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: the up, the coming up, the getting into the you know,

1272
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 2: NBA today, going to ESPN, what that was like. But

1273
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 2: I always seem to get into these, you know, deeper

1274
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: psychological conversations, you know. Anyway, all right, I'm gonna leave

1275
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Speaker 2: by