Speaker 1: Harry Hamlin's homemade Bognet's sauce spices up Lisa's party. Crystal's
Speaker 1: non apology pushes Sot into her boiling point, which turns
Speaker 1: into an insult about Crystal's leather pants. Plus, Kathy has
Speaker 1: unexpected news for Kyle about their sister. Selling Sunset star
Speaker 1: Mary Fitzgerald joins me to recap this episode. This is
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season eleven, Episode eight, The Good,
Speaker 1: the Bad, and the ugly leather Pants. Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you and thank you for being here.
Speaker 1: How's it going in the entertainment world and your show
Speaker 1: and your life?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it just keeps going. It keeps blowing
Speaker 2: up and still doing well. I think we're the longest
Speaker 2: running show on Netflix.
Speaker 3: And stop really yeah with yeah going on season A
Speaker 3: and I think seven is the longest that it's run
Speaker 3: and he shows run.
Speaker 1: So that's amazing. Yeah, So that's amazing. Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: And it's been a good experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, there's always ups and downs.
Speaker 2: There have been a couple couple of moments where.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I am not doing this anymore. It's not
Speaker 4: worth it.
Speaker 2: And then and then you know, I cal him down
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, maybe it is. I just have
Speaker 2: to go out to my punching bag, get a little
Speaker 2: workout in, and then I'm like, okay, I can handle it.
Speaker 1: But who are the top five brokers in California? Not no,
Speaker 1: it does enough to be famous, But who are are they famous?
Speaker 4: Top five?
Speaker 2: I would say, Well, Frederick Ecklin is out here now,
Speaker 2: and he's really good. I mean there's a bunch of him.
Speaker 2: There's like Joyce Ray is really good, Brandon and Ranny
Speaker 2: Williams are really good. There's a lot of there's only
Speaker 2: maybe five or six, like really really top agents that
Speaker 2: do all the multimillion dollar homes. I mean, Sean Elliott
Speaker 2: is amazing too, but he does all over. He does
Speaker 2: New York, Miami and LA. But that man still is
Speaker 2: able to get like these hundred plus million dollar listings
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 1: So well, I would wonder if, because it sounds like
Speaker 1: the biggest people, which I think might be the case
Speaker 1: in New York too, the biggest ones aren't the ones
Speaker 1: that are necessarily famous because they have very private billionaire clients.
Speaker 1: And maybe that that I want to take their eye
Speaker 1: off the ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's there's a there. There are quite
Speaker 2: a few of them that that are not on shows
Speaker 2: and they don't have anything. I mean, Sean will make
Speaker 2: appearances on He had something, I'm not sure how well
Speaker 2: it did. He had some show on the East Coast,
Speaker 2: I think in the Hampton's it's called I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I think I know what you're talking about because I
Speaker 1: saw like a modern sag Harbor house that they were
Speaker 1: marketing on there and I don't remember what it was,
Speaker 1: but I think, yeah, I think I saw that and
Speaker 1: it was not very good, but it was interesting to
Speaker 1: me because I'm interested in real estate. I I I'll
Speaker 1: buy a house with less hesitation. Then I'll order a
Speaker 1: pasta and am not I'm not exaggerating like I because
Speaker 1: but I just know out in La, I know, well,
Speaker 1: I've thought about Malibu. It's just too far to justify,
Speaker 1: but I thought about Malibu. That's I would be in Malibu,
Speaker 1: no question. And every time I go, I think about
Speaker 1: that as an investment and when it drops, et cetera.
Speaker 1: But I always buy personal real estate that I love
Speaker 1: and that I am sort of emotional about, but that
Speaker 1: I treat like an investment where if I had to,
Speaker 1: I could live there. If I had to, I could
Speaker 1: sell it in a minute. It's very like marketable to anyone.
Speaker 1: And I'm always designing with investment in mind, and I'm
Speaker 1: always buying when it's low. And so I just bought
Speaker 1: an apartment in Manhattan and I walked it. I just
Speaker 1: was Usually it's just a thought in my head and
Speaker 1: then when I see the right thing, I just walked
Speaker 1: in and I had it by the end of the day.
Speaker 1: I literally did have it by the end of the day.
Speaker 1: And the same thing happened in the Hampton's because I'll
Speaker 1: secret something that I want and then i'll have then
Speaker 1: I'll get it. And it happened to me in Connecticut.
Speaker 1: I had two houses at the same time Hampton's, two
Speaker 1: houses at the same time, and then you're sitting there
Speaker 1: going which one am I going to keep and which
Speaker 1: one I will have to rent out or sell one.
Speaker 1: But I love personal real estate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I would love to start doing that
Speaker 2: as well. And that's the goal to keep adding and
Speaker 2: adding to our portfolio. We just did that with this
Speaker 2: house that we looked for so long for our personal
Speaker 2: house in La and not just felt right, and and
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not. I'm not gonna gonna buy
Speaker 2: something until I know, because if we're gonna live in it,
Speaker 2: I wanted to be perfect.
Speaker 4: I see homes all day long, every single day.
Speaker 2: Yes, I know when I walk in, and I'm like, yes,
Speaker 2: And there's some I have done that. My wedding venue
Speaker 2: I did that. It was out of my budget though,
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so you know, there are certain holmes
Speaker 2: where I'm like, you know eventually.
Speaker 1: This you just know when you you know, but you
Speaker 1: also have to be nimble that you may love it,
Speaker 1: but you have to think about how it's marketable to
Speaker 1: somebody else. Yeah. Anyway, So how savvy on the Housewives
Speaker 1: are you? I had never seen this episode, and believe
Speaker 1: it or not, I'm not that savvy. I know many
Speaker 1: of the people, but I I don't know some of
Speaker 1: the people and don't know the conflicts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not that savvy with it. But funny enough,
Speaker 2: I always joke around, like on our show about uh,
Speaker 2: the Housewives and stuff. I'm likeme, on, we're not gonna
Speaker 2: be like what the Housewives and stuff? But I've really
Speaker 2: never seen it.
Speaker 1: So that's funny. Did you say it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I just like I've always heard like the
Speaker 2: wine throwing and all this stuff. Yes, and watch that
Speaker 2: episode and I was like, I should never say that
Speaker 2: again actually, because they had more of like camaraderie and like,
Speaker 2: you know, supporting each other than we do on our show.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was a tame episode, though I've seen Lisa
Speaker 1: throw a wine glass. That was a tame episode. But yes,
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, from my experience meeting them personally and being
Speaker 1: on that show, they they're more savvy. Yeah, they're very
Speaker 1: aware of the cameras and that you know, so, so
Speaker 1: they're very aware of what's going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: I've seen her out multiple times. I was on a
Speaker 2: panel with her at what points, and so I know
Speaker 2: I know her just from red Carpets and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is sort of a whole event that
Speaker 1: is at the house with Harry Hamlin cooking, and they
Speaker 1: sort of lead up and let us know that Harry
Speaker 1: is always the one doing the cooking and he's cooked
Speaker 1: for this group before and that's sort of his thing,
Speaker 1: which is actually nice. They should do a he should
Speaker 1: do a cooking show or something. And I've been to
Speaker 1: their house because I used to be pretty friendly with
Speaker 1: re Lisa. So I've been to this house, and Kyle
Speaker 1: is right that it's a nice property, Like it's a
Speaker 1: nice property and it's very home me. A couple of
Speaker 1: times in this show, and in all shows, I am
Speaker 1: watching and thinking to myself, like about clutter in the house,
Speaker 1: Like I always am looking at what's everywhere because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm psychotic about stuff. So I'm looking all over at
Speaker 1: all the olive oil and all the dishes and all
Speaker 1: this stuff in their fridge. And it reminded me. Recently,
Speaker 1: I was talking to another housewife who said to me
Speaker 1: that on Beverly Hills, the show never pays for events
Speaker 1: or parties and that the people pay and that, and
Speaker 1: this person said that Lisa Rinna never wanted to really
Speaker 1: have a party because she doesn't want to like pay
Speaker 1: for you know, a TV quote quote unquote fake party,
Speaker 1: and they really are TV parties. And it's funny because
Speaker 1: my parties that I had on Housewives of New York,
Speaker 1: they did pay. I definitely, yeah, one hundred percent. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't spend for ours.
Speaker 2: Interesting now, Jason, if it's a company party, Jason pays
Speaker 2: for everything, but they never pay for any of ours
Speaker 2: anything we do because they say, no, it's it's your life,
Speaker 2: at your event, you pay for it.
Speaker 1: But they then will make you have an event that
Speaker 1: you might not have. And that's not like I would
Speaker 1: not normally have a s'mores and whores party.
Speaker 2: We just say no, We're like, well, yeah, fine, but
Speaker 2: it's going to be on our terms. I mean, if
Speaker 2: you want this big lamb party, that's not what we
Speaker 2: would normally do. Like if so many times Jason would
Speaker 2: normally do it. He's he's a bit extra, so he
Speaker 2: does so big, big, massive things and he loves doing it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't bother him at all.
Speaker 4: He's spent he spent so much money on parties.
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's in line with the labels and the
Speaker 1: logos and the showing of the stuff that this group
Speaker 1: in particular wants to have a big pissing contest party.
Speaker 1: Not that that's what this was at all. Lisa's party
Speaker 1: was not that at all, But this group wants to
Speaker 1: have a made for TV party, just like they wear
Speaker 1: made for TV outfits, you know, like that only the
Speaker 1: camera people are seeing. Yeah, so and your show's like
Speaker 1: that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. I mean, I'm not really like that.
Speaker 2: I don't feel as much. I mean, if I'm gonna
Speaker 2: throw a party, I'm very low key and very it.
Speaker 2: I would throw an intimate dinner party, like very tasteful
Speaker 2: dinner party. I would not have like a two hundred
Speaker 2: people there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: We planned for three hundred and there's almost five hundred.
Speaker 1: That's insane. Okay. So now we're at the house and
Speaker 1: Harry's cooking and talking about the bolgnas, and I like
Speaker 1: watching them shop together, and I like their dynamic. There's
Speaker 1: always speculation again about their dynamic, and I just think
Speaker 1: that every marriage is not one size fits all, and
Speaker 1: I like their partnership. I like them together, and I
Speaker 1: want to taste his bolognais. And now we get to
Speaker 1: and we're at Kathy's and they're doing this tennis and
Speaker 1: I'm distracted. And I've been to Kathy's too, but I
Speaker 1: don't think I've been to this house. And I'm distracted
Speaker 1: by what structure is behind them playing tennis, and there's
Speaker 1: like all this stuff in the window, and I'm thinking about,
Speaker 1: like what Kathy, who does all these crazy parties and
Speaker 1: has so much stuff, what she has in that storage unit.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking when I saw this house, because
Speaker 1: there's a lot of house talk on this show, that
Speaker 1: I personally I like a small house. Now, I have
Speaker 1: a very big house, and I have a compound where
Speaker 1: I am now, but I also have a different and
Speaker 1: homes that are smaller. I've had both. I like a small, manageable,
Speaker 1: perfect house, not like all these places where stuff can commumulate,
Speaker 1: dust can accumulate, you have to manage it. And so
Speaker 1: Kathy's house was beautiful. But I liked Erika's house. I
Speaker 1: actually did. I liked. I mean, I don't. I'm not
Speaker 1: a renter. So I don't like the word rent, right
Speaker 1: because I like things. I like to do things to things,
Speaker 1: and I would never feel right improving upon a rental, right.
Speaker 1: And I want to actually ask you about rental versus
Speaker 1: owning and your opinion, because in some cases, I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's smarter financially, But for me, I'm psychologically never a renter.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But I liked Erica's home. It just seemed like small
Speaker 1: and perfect.
Speaker 2: I agree, I'm not no matter if I were a billionaire,
Speaker 2: I would not have a huge home.
Speaker 4: It's just not It's not for me. But I like
Speaker 4: the style of her home.
Speaker 2: The whole exterior was of Kathy's was absolutely stunning.
Speaker 4: I think just a smaller scale, right, And I guess.
Speaker 2: For some people would be a huge family whatever, or
Speaker 2: if you just like it, that's fine, But I would
Speaker 2: have it on a smaller scale.
Speaker 4: I just don't need that much space. It's it's just
Speaker 4: more work.
Speaker 1: And she does have three kids, and the three kids kids,
Speaker 1: and she loves to entertain, and that does make some sense.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and I was going to say they have
Speaker 1: a house in the Hamptons too, but those are their
Speaker 1: two homes and they really are home people. I thought
Speaker 1: it was a relatable conversation for Erica. And you don't
Speaker 1: know because you haven't seen the show episode though. No,
Speaker 1: I mean in life the historically, Erica has always like
Speaker 1: got a brick wall and hard and I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: I've probably seen in my whole life maybe ten episodes
Speaker 1: Eric has been in. But she's like a brick wall,
Speaker 1: And here she's being relatable and what she's talking about
Speaker 1: to me is relatable in that she was on someone
Speaker 1: else's program, like she you know, just add hot young
Speaker 1: girl married the rich guy, and she was on his program,
Speaker 1: which was just insert her, and it felt like now
Speaker 1: she liked being on her program, and I also liked
Speaker 1: her being vulnerable about that because we watched her do
Speaker 1: a song called It's Expensive to Be Me and talk
Speaker 1: about fifty thousand dollars a month in glam and travel
Speaker 1: with a glam squad to Dubai and really fly on
Speaker 1: planes and lay it on really thick and really braggy,
Speaker 1: you know, really braggy about money.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was extremely relatable. I mean, it
Speaker 2: happens all the time at different levels and you know,
Speaker 2: in different situations, but so many times in a marriage,
Speaker 2: if it's money, if it's just control of whatever it is,
Speaker 2: I mean like that is your image.
Speaker 4: And you really don't have a voice.
Speaker 2: So it's almost even if you go through tough times
Speaker 2: making that transition, it's really amazing and liberating to find
Speaker 2: that voice and that freedom.
Speaker 4: I've had to.
Speaker 2: I've done it many times, and there is something I
Speaker 2: think she's much.
Speaker 4: More likable now same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like you know, if you're she's humanized
Speaker 2: and it's the same relatable where you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: you can feel her emotions and and yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 4: I thought it was very brave of her to do that.
Speaker 1: She has an identity now where before her identity was
Speaker 1: a persona an image, a pat the puss, the money,
Speaker 1: the plane. No matter what rich person you're married to,
Speaker 1: they're counting. On some level. They know what you're doing,
Speaker 1: they know what you're spending. On some level. People think
Speaker 1: that they are, they don't know, and they don't care.
Speaker 1: I had a friend who was with a very wealthy
Speaker 1: man years ago. Oh he doesn't care. Oh he doesn't care,
Speaker 1: and she was running a muck and he cares. They care,
Speaker 1: And even if they don't care, they know. And there's
Speaker 1: nothing like not having to ask somebody or answer to
Speaker 1: somebody when you want to buy something.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Lisa said said that too on the show,
Speaker 2: that they have separate accounts too, Leban she knows everything
Speaker 2: going on, but they also have separate accounts, and that's
Speaker 2: Mermaine and I do that too. We have a joint account,
Speaker 2: but we both have separate accounts and and we mostly
Speaker 2: do because I've been screwed over in the past. Wow,
Speaker 2: So I will not allow all of my money to
Speaker 2: be and Remaine's a polar option. He's so stubborn and
Speaker 2: won't I mean, just too much pride to ever take money.
Speaker 2: He's like, I don't need your money, he said, he
Speaker 2: is so prideful, But I still just for my own sake,
Speaker 2: my own piece of mind. No one can take that.
Speaker 2: It's only in my name. It's only like, no one
Speaker 2: can do that to me. And because my ex husband
Speaker 2: did it and I won't, I will ever let that
Speaker 2: happen again.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever fully shared a bank account
Speaker 1: with someone. I think i'd sooner share a toothbrush, I
Speaker 1: swear to God, which is disgusting, but sharing a bank
Speaker 1: account with someone, And I know I've heard, and I
Speaker 1: had it on my talk show a woman say, when
Speaker 1: you get married, and you should have one different account
Speaker 1: that has a different credit card, that's like for the
Speaker 1: house and for the household, And that sounds like organized,
Speaker 1: but it also sounds not like bullshit but not real,
Speaker 1: Like it's like this little thing that you do to
Speaker 1: pretend that you're together. But that's like the house account,
Speaker 1: and you could easily be like, at the end of
Speaker 1: the month, let's just split everything too. Like it just
Speaker 1: feels not yeah, it would feel really I can't imagine
Speaker 1: asking someone can I buy this apartment? Or can I
Speaker 1: buy this bag, or just even them knowing, even them
Speaker 1: knowing self consciousness.
Speaker 2: Never, in my opinion, you should never have to tell
Speaker 2: someone like your partnership, as long as you're not doing
Speaker 2: anything like that, is you know, of disrespecting the marriage.
Speaker 2: I mean, but it's somebody's business. If you go buy
Speaker 2: purse or done mirrors or whatever it is, it's not
Speaker 2: his business. You work for your money. You can spend
Speaker 2: it the way you want.
Speaker 1: One hundred. I'm a big fan of having someone's credit card.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm a big fan of having someone's credit card.
Speaker 1: That's a big I'm a big that's a big big.
Speaker 1: That's a big Bethany. Yeah, that's big. That's big on
Speaker 1: the Bethany list. That's a good one. Yeah, poor poor Paul. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I thought the Kyle family Christmas card. You know,
Speaker 1: it made me tearfully sentimental. They're a solid, good couple,
Speaker 1: and they were both very social together and similar friend groups,
Speaker 1: and they you know, they have different priorities now and
Speaker 1: grew apart.
Speaker 4: Hopefully they'll find your way back.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it just takes, like you know, some time, apart
Speaker 2: and hopefully they'll find their way back to each other
Speaker 2: and and work as friends.
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll find that. I don't I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I don't think well. And then they talked about
Speaker 1: Kim with the holidays being alone. I think that's also relatable,
Speaker 1: and the sisters want to kind of take care of her.
Speaker 1: But I was thinking right now, because it's the holidays,
Speaker 1: some people want to be alone during the holidays, and
Speaker 1: it feels worse for other people to want to feel
Speaker 1: sorry for you. If you want to be alone or
Speaker 1: are alone during the holidays, that's kind of worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you truly want to be alone, if you're
Speaker 2: just alone, you have nobody, you have no options.
Speaker 4: That is sad.
Speaker 2: But if you really do, there are a lot of
Speaker 2: people that just you're just in a place in your
Speaker 2: life you just don't really want to be involved at
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 4: And that's okay.
Speaker 2: I mean, if they want to ask one time, just like, hey,
Speaker 2: you're welcome to come. But if she truly wants to
Speaker 2: be alone, letter.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a pandemic. During this episode, and it's also
Speaker 1: the holidays. I'm realizing more and more it's not a
Speaker 1: one size fits all either, and everybody wants to shove
Speaker 1: what their version of the holidays is on every everybody else.
Speaker 1: Families want to do it, people want to do it
Speaker 1: in their way. The way they want to cook, they
Speaker 1: want to cater, they want to you know, and it's
Speaker 1: very hard to find your own identity during the holidays
Speaker 1: when you're being pushed in so many different directions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, I think. I mean, I think that
Speaker 2: everyone should just you know, stand on their ground if
Speaker 2: that's what you want do it. I mean, it's not
Speaker 2: once I spits all. Everybody has different needs at different times,
Speaker 2: and it's the holidays.
Speaker 4: You should be happy, yeah.
Speaker 1: Or if you have to be sad, reflect and the
Speaker 1: pressure of the day doesn't have to be everything like
Speaker 1: it's the twenty fifth today, I have to be happy
Speaker 1: because then if you're not happy, you feel worse than
Speaker 1: it just being a day that you want to relax
Speaker 1: and watch movies, you know, Like people have to give
Speaker 1: themselves a break. I think, especially during the holidays, it
Speaker 1: comes on quickly, and then if it doesn't become everything
Speaker 1: you wanted it to be, either as a kid or
Speaker 1: as a you know, in a relationship or divorce, it
Speaker 1: becomes it can crash pretty quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. Sometimes it's easier and better to
Speaker 2: just treat it like a day. Do whatever it is
Speaker 2: that you need mentally, physically, whatever. Yeah, on that date,
Speaker 2: don't be next year, They'll be many many more.
Speaker 4: So Yeah, it's just do.
Speaker 2: What everyone just needs to do what is best for them.
Speaker 2: I think in general, in life, just people say of
Speaker 2: each other's business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that book was amazing. It was adult chaka bon
Speaker 1: a pink queen's book. I don't even know where you
Speaker 1: find that because I looked it up online after and
Speaker 1: Sutton is in it twice, Like that is a queen really? Hmm,
Speaker 1: she was in the book twice.
Speaker 2: Oh I missed that part. Oh my gosh, No, that
Speaker 2: is that's pretty epic.
Speaker 1: That's kind of epic. She's an adult chake a ban
Speaker 1: a book wait dressed because I guess she was married
Speaker 1: to a very wealthy man and like she probably was
Speaker 1: draped adulta. It's very good for her. I love it,
Speaker 1: good for her.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we go to Garcel's house. Also cute, charming house.
Speaker 1: I like Garcel. I know Garcel, I've met Garcel. She
Speaker 1: is one of the probably five people that asked me
Speaker 1: before she was on the show what she should do
Speaker 1: or how is she going to survive? And I always
Speaker 1: stay quiet during those conversations, almost to the point of
Speaker 1: being stand offish, because I just don't want any part
Speaker 1: of giving any kind of Housewives advice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I don't know how it feels to be
Speaker 2: on that show. But I do have people ask me
Speaker 2: on ours like ideal for the OC. I've had people
Speaker 2: call an aspect for advice, and you know, I just
Speaker 2: I mean, I do give a little bit of advice,
Speaker 2: but I'm like, everybody's different.
Speaker 1: You know, it's such a bad thing to say, and
Speaker 1: you feel like you're gatekeeping, but there's no upside and
Speaker 1: it's not the same dynamic that you're in or walked into,
Speaker 1: because it's a different game now and mine is. Fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago, we were like bedrock. We were like cars
Speaker 1: were starting with like our feet at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the car. We were like, you know, horse and wagons.
Speaker 1: It was fifteen years ago. Was that the same? We
Speaker 1: didn't have HD and we didn't have Twitter.
Speaker 2: Wow, I can't believe how fast time flies. It did
Speaker 2: not feel like fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1: We didn't have social media. Really, we didn't have glam budgets,
Speaker 1: we didn't have green screens, we didn't have backgrounds that
Speaker 1: were like in a studio is in your own actual
Speaker 1: house with your actual wall behind you.
Speaker 2: I am so jealous, Like that is the time to
Speaker 2: do housewives or any sort of reality show when there's
Speaker 2: no social media, no haters every single day criticizing every
Speaker 2: single thing you say and do.
Speaker 1: No, and there's no glam. You were yourself. You actually
Speaker 1: could be who you really were every day. You didn't
Speaker 1: like walk in wearing a couture outfit pretending that that's
Speaker 1: what you have lunch, and you just like were what
Speaker 1: I'm wearing right now, like you're at you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, We're just normal women in New York that
Speaker 1: some of us had money, but even the ones who
Speaker 1: had money were still wearing sweatpants. Now it's like an
Speaker 1: exaggerated version. So I don't know how I would advise.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I met Garcela at Mark Burnett's house. I've
Speaker 1: always liked her, and that's when she asked me how
Speaker 1: to navigate it. And I was just like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, you look great. You know, just like
Speaker 1: probably just like skirting the issue. But I like garcel
Speaker 1: and do we have any idea why her son is
Speaker 1: studying Japanese in particular, it's a very specific language in
Speaker 1: high school to be studying. That's such a teenager expecting
Speaker 1: his mom to be quiet in a kitchen, which is
Speaker 1: the center of the house, when you could easily go upstate.
Speaker 1: Like it was so ridiculous. She was like, shit, everybody,
Speaker 1: like what are you talking about. You're in the middle
Speaker 1: of the kitchen doing your homework, Like, go upstairs, what
Speaker 1: are you doing?
Speaker 2: Go to a different room, like in your room. You
Speaker 2: should have like a desk in your room. Anyway, the
Speaker 2: kids thinking count is not where you do homework or
Speaker 2: you do something like go to your room, yeah.
Speaker 1: Or do it here in too bad, like learn Japanese
Speaker 1: while I'm cooking and while your brother's like what, I
Speaker 1: don't even have That's such teen life, where like parents,
Speaker 1: let the kids were on the show that it's not
Speaker 1: the same thing.
Speaker 2: I thought, well, maybe they just did that for show purposes,
Speaker 2: like to give some sort of thing, because surely she
Speaker 2: would have just been like, this is a kitchen.
Speaker 4: We cook and we do dishes in the kitchen. If
Speaker 4: you need to study in your room.
Speaker 2: But if you'll like the noise, then don't be in
Speaker 2: the kitchen.
Speaker 1: So true, she wasn't doing like a cabaret show if
Speaker 1: you don't like, yeah, she was. She was doing what
Speaker 1: you do in the kitchen, like she wasn't having sex.
Speaker 1: She was unloading the dishwasher and cook it exactly right.
Speaker 1: That's what homeworking is not yet. Yeah, but that would
Speaker 1: have been really this is exactly what. Here's me reenacting
Speaker 1: that with Brnn.
Speaker 2: Mom.
Speaker 1: She's like, are you are you okay? Right now? And
Speaker 1: the kid actually said to the brother are you okay?
Speaker 1: The kid, the kid doing the homework, because name is
Speaker 1: Jack's said to the brother, are you okay? It's like
Speaker 1: I would have said to Brinn, Hi, this is a
Speaker 1: whole house, other people live here, this is the kitchen.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about Lisa and Harry, and I was
Speaker 1: thinking about all of the homegrown tomatoes and how I'm
Speaker 1: a fit I fiddle around the house like with organizing
Speaker 1: and things like I'm a fiddler pack of gifts doing.
Speaker 1: I was wondering if that's like, if he's like the
Speaker 1: one who's fiddling around in the garden. It just seems
Speaker 1: like a nice thing for people to take up like
Speaker 1: golf where you could like just play around in the
Speaker 1: garden then have fruits and vegetables.
Speaker 4: I do, I have a garden.
Speaker 2: You do tell me, Okay, So I have to be
Speaker 2: honest about this though, because my husband is more like Harry,
Speaker 2: where he's good at all those things. It's my ideas
Speaker 2: to do these things. And I buy the step and
Speaker 2: I plan it all out, and then he upkeeps everything
Speaker 2: because I forget, so he is. He's got a green thumb,
Speaker 2: and I don't, but I want to, so I go
Speaker 2: check on him. I'm like, yeah, we've got all like
Speaker 2: the plants, and I'll go pick them. He does all
Speaker 2: the upkeep and he will actually plant them because he
Speaker 2: knows how to do everything, and that's better at it.
Speaker 4: And he's a much better cook too.
Speaker 2: But I do make pasta, and I'm very good at
Speaker 2: blonnaise and chili, but I'm very bad cook in general.
Speaker 4: But my husband can cook quite well.
Speaker 1: You're good with ground beef.
Speaker 2: Like like Harry, and he's very he's very handy so
Speaker 2: around the house, so that's nice.
Speaker 1: I this is how crazy I am. I have two
Speaker 1: but I have an apple orchard. And the problem is, well,
Speaker 1: first of all. I had a dental issue this year,
Speaker 1: so like I couldn't even eat the apples, and my
Speaker 1: heart is broken. It's the first year we had like
Speaker 1: the most gorgeous. They look like Fiji or Gala apples.
Speaker 1: But I digress and they're so sweet. But the problem
Speaker 1: is it upsets me because there's so many apples, and
Speaker 1: what are we going to do? Like now I'm forcing
Speaker 1: people to take apples home. We're forcing people to eat
Speaker 1: apple sauce. I feel like I'm giving baskets of apple away.
Speaker 1: So if I had all of these vegetables and things,
Speaker 1: I would feel like a responsibility to the garden, not
Speaker 1: just to take care of it, but to like distribute
Speaker 1: its goods. And I think that'd be too much of
Speaker 1: a job for me. Why can't you sell them well
Speaker 1: that I don't need another job, that's a real job.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like what are we doing with all these tomatoes?
Speaker 1: Like I need one tomato tonight or two tomatoes. I
Speaker 1: don't need seventy. So Harry, you know, thank God for
Speaker 1: the show so he could cook and use all those tomatoes.
Speaker 1: I would love to go pick a tomato and have it,
Speaker 1: but then the other thirty are gonna go back. I guess, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess, but it's compost. I tell everyone that works
Speaker 1: to me, just go just do your food shopping outside there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I would have to do that too, because
Speaker 2: I do. I've got avocados and tomatoes and well there's
Speaker 2: a bunch of things out there, but I've let a
Speaker 2: couple of them go bad because we just and I
Speaker 2: don't mean to, and I get so upset when it
Speaker 2: happens because I'm like, no, there's my homegrown ones.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm say. That's exactly you're proving my point.
Speaker 1: And like, if you have a giant thing a basil,
Speaker 1: and you need just a little now, you got to
Speaker 1: make jars of pest. Though it feels like a project.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell people go take our basil too, because
Speaker 2: the basil goes so fast.
Speaker 1: Shit, all right, well here's what I think would be cool.
Speaker 4: So I have to have everybody picket picket.
Speaker 2: It still doesn't it's still not enough, Like there's still
Speaker 2: extra all the time.
Speaker 1: If I were shooting a show, what I would do
Speaker 1: right now, and I might do it in my real
Speaker 1: life anyway, is I would say to my whole team,
Speaker 1: everybody decide one thing that you want. Because I have
Speaker 1: a wee work building on this property, so my staff
Speaker 1: works in a separate structure. So I would say to everybody,
Speaker 1: what do you each want, and we'd each plant something
Speaker 1: for us, and then everybody would get to take vegetables
Speaker 1: and fruiton because I have a lot of people here,
Speaker 1: I probably like six to ten people. So if everybody
Speaker 1: took maybe I'm going to grow a garden. Based on
Speaker 1: the Spis and Harry and Lisen you okay, all right.
Speaker 2: It's very satisfying though, like to be able to pick
Speaker 2: your own things.
Speaker 4: There is something very satisfying about it.
Speaker 1: When do you plant?
Speaker 4: I think it depends on the thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to look into this.
Speaker 2: I'm not that good a mcgardner.
Speaker 4: It was just that, like I want it on my property.
Speaker 2: I had a nursery come like actually plant the different
Speaker 2: types of trees, and then we bought the all the
Speaker 2: herbs and of keeping them. But I don't know if
Speaker 2: we did it at the right time of the year
Speaker 2: or not.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna find out. But you're also in Alla,
Speaker 1: so that's a produce capital. So Dori, it's funny. She
Speaker 1: was talking about her bridal collection. I don't know what
Speaker 1: ended up happening with it, but Nectaria, they've reached out
Speaker 1: to me. They actually reached out to me to make
Speaker 1: me a wedding dress before, and I then connected that
Speaker 1: that was someone that It sounds like Dorita is doing
Speaker 1: like a collaboration with them for one collection. It doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like Nectaria is going to be her company. It
Speaker 1: sounds like one of these sort of housewives business things
Speaker 1: where it's not really your business, but it's like a
Speaker 1: thing to talk about on the show. And it's a
Speaker 1: line kind of thing, right, Like Kyle had a store
Speaker 1: Alien too, but it wasn't really her store. It was
Speaker 1: Alien two store, but it was called Kyle. Because a
Speaker 1: brand has come to you, you're on Beverly Hills, how
Speaker 1: do we get involved? And so that's what this sounds like.
Speaker 1: And I bet you it's beautiful. I'd love to actually
Speaker 1: have a dress or see a dress. I don't know
Speaker 1: if this comes to fruition, but I like the idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought one that they they just showed the
Speaker 2: picture of on the episode and it looked stunny.
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I don't know either if if
Speaker 4: it actually got made or I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, what did you do for your wedding? What
Speaker 1: did you wear?
Speaker 2: You know? They actually they're not there anymore. It was
Speaker 2: it was called floor Bear and it's atique beautiful boutique
Speaker 2: bridal store on Meller's Place, so charming, and then the
Speaker 2: dresses were just stunning, and so it was actually the
Speaker 2: opposite of what I thought I was going to do.
Speaker 2: It was not this that I thought I was going
Speaker 2: to pick. I had my mind, like I had a
Speaker 2: vision of what I wanted, and then everything just kept
Speaker 2: getting messed up, like it was our third venue like that.
Speaker 2: We went through the first one production and the and
Speaker 2: the venue could not get on the same page. So
Speaker 2: I already kind of started deciding, like the whole vibe
Speaker 2: of the wedding started picking things out, and I was like, guys,
Speaker 2: come on, we had to get this locked in, and
Speaker 2: we started doing stuff. I put down a deposit and
Speaker 2: this happened twice and then and then they were like, no,
Speaker 2: it doesn't work.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god. And Sewn Elliott.
Speaker 2: Actually helped me find us another one. It was this
Speaker 2: gorgeous house in Malibu, and then the husband and wife
Speaker 2: got divorced or they decided to get divorced, and the
Speaker 2: wife it was still like it's it's fine, it's fine,
Speaker 2: you can still do the wedding there. That husband was
Speaker 2: really pissed and was like nope. He's like, I don't
Speaker 2: want any wedding here. We're not doing it. So five
Speaker 2: weeks before my wedding, what yes, five weeks before and
Speaker 2: we're filming and they legit got made me. They would
Speaker 2: not let him go. They're like, okay, wait, because he
Speaker 2: called production for saying listen, we got a problem. They
Speaker 2: just backed out and so you guys aren't gonna be
Speaker 2: able to film there. She can't on the wedding there.
Speaker 2: They're like, don't tell her yet, don't don't.
Speaker 1: Call her because they wanted it for the show.
Speaker 2: Wanted it for the show. So I I lugit.
Speaker 4: Thought he was this was just for the show. And
Speaker 4: they never do that.
Speaker 2: But I was like, they never that would say don't.
Speaker 4: Answer your phone too if we're filming.
Speaker 2: And so, and I was sitting there and well and
Speaker 2: my phone was rking. I just turned it over and
Speaker 2: they're like, go ahead and answer it. Go ahead.
Speaker 4: I was like.
Speaker 2: And I just kind of like looked away and they're like, Mary,
Speaker 2: go ahead and answer it. I was like, oh, what
Speaker 2: are they doing? And so I pick it up. I
Speaker 2: see it, Sean, I pick it up, and I'm like there.
Speaker 2: But I didn't really buy it at first. I thought
Speaker 2: they're just messing with me, just to see what I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do, because no way, why would they have.
Speaker 1: Now five weeks before?
Speaker 4: They would never, but they they did.
Speaker 2: They were just like, please just wait until like this
Speaker 2: time where we can catch her role.
Speaker 1: Right of course that's gold.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And after we were done, like what that wasn't real?
Speaker 4: But right? I was like, I mean why what and
Speaker 4: They're like, no, that was real.
Speaker 2: We just asked them to call while we were on
Speaker 2: camera and I was like, no, no, Mary, that was
Speaker 2: real and they backed out. Oh my, it was deposit.
Speaker 1: Wait did you really pay for your Don't tell me
Speaker 1: you paid for your own wedding and gave it away
Speaker 1: for content. What you know. I didn't pay a goddamn
Speaker 1: dime a my wedding.
Speaker 2: I mean I got I got like things where a
Speaker 2: trade out, Yeah, like trades. First off, I still wanted
Speaker 2: to pay a good amount because the show was still
Speaker 2: new at the time. I mean, but I still got
Speaker 2: quite a few things I got discounts or or for
Speaker 2: trade for things for it because I can't show that
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't imagine paying for a wedding that was
Speaker 1: covered by a television show, not because of not only
Speaker 1: because you're giving away something it's so valuable, because it's
Speaker 1: not the same. Like it's like saying when I go
Speaker 1: on vacation with Ramona to Mexico or somewhere, that I
Speaker 1: would pay for that, Like that's it's it's like torture
Speaker 1: going on show vacation.
Speaker 4: Had had but the house rights been on when you
Speaker 4: were on it?
Speaker 2: Were you right?
Speaker 4: At the beginning?
Speaker 1: It was my own spinoff show was three seasons, and
Speaker 1: then I had a spinoff that was Bethany getting Married.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see so Orizonzo. We were at the beginning
Speaker 2: of season two and it wasn't like there was anything.
Speaker 4: It was a brand new show.
Speaker 2: And we were just like we were just happy, like
Speaker 2: second season.
Speaker 1: I know, I just never would oh my god.
Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, I know, and I say
Speaker 2: yes to everything I know about that. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: a team player.
Speaker 4: Okay, I know, so I know.
Speaker 2: But I did get a lot of stuff, like for free.
Speaker 2: It would have cost triple what.
Speaker 4: I paid at least, but I know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm still paid probably forty fifty grand or something. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I ended up doing it at a client's house
Speaker 2: and so it was able to sell. Everything worked out
Speaker 2: because then so getting back to the wedding, yeah, it
Speaker 2: ended up we just found out. It was this new
Speaker 2: venue which was which is my dream house that I
Speaker 2: was talking about, like where it was like one day
Speaker 2: and it just matched the theme and I didn't I
Speaker 2: never thought I would pick it. I saw it on
Speaker 2: the hanger, I was like, nah, And my friend told
Speaker 2: me to try it, and she's like, just just humor me.
Speaker 2: Tried it on.
Speaker 1: Oh pretty, it's like romantic and Victorian, where you would
Speaker 1: have thought you'd do something more like this's gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Though traditional, and then yeah that hew, yeah, oh that's funny.
Speaker 2: That's like looks like the same stand.
Speaker 1: That's hysterical. That's stunning. Yeah, very pretty, that's very pretty.
Speaker 2: Bridge I'm saying actually on my back, like no one
Speaker 2: ever sees it or anything but the yeah, it's and
Speaker 2: I got it before I ever met Romaine, and it
Speaker 2: said the only thing real in life are your dreams
Speaker 2: in love.
Speaker 1: Oh nice, and you got to have a dress that
Speaker 1: showcase that. That's amazing.
Speaker 2: Okay, it happened to have that, and then it kind
Speaker 2: of went along with a romantic vibe of.
Speaker 1: Oh I got it guard, Yeah, it's beautiful. Okay. So
Speaker 1: their table was gorgeous. Harry did a beautiful job. I
Speaker 1: like that of not pretentious and fancy, like a homie vibe.
Speaker 1: I like the whole vibe. I like what he's wearing.
Speaker 1: I like that she's dressed casual during the scene. I
Speaker 1: miss and prefer non costume Lisa. I like natural, normal Lisa.
Speaker 1: She like leaned into the Erica Jane dor read of
Speaker 1: it all, and so did Kyle. Everybody did. But the
Speaker 1: show used to be a little more down to earth
Speaker 1: and I like that, Lisa. So then Sutton walks in,
Speaker 1: and now the Tomasino thing is said, and I guess
Speaker 1: it's in another language, peeping tom. So this is becoming
Speaker 1: like a prodding of this issue and as a side
Speaker 1: so that's an issue between Crystal and Sutton. And now
Speaker 1: there's a side issue that seems to be getting resolved
Speaker 1: between Garcel and Lisa Rinna, because you saw a throwback
Speaker 1: to like something that happened and they're working on it.
Speaker 1: But now Lisa's decided that's a very producer thing. Well,
Speaker 1: why don't you have her birthday party as a show
Speaker 1: of it was an olive branch. So she has the
Speaker 1: birthday party on her dime. Because we've talked about parties,
Speaker 1: but this isn't like a fancy party. But she's got
Speaker 1: a bartender. So Lisa throws the party for Garcel's birthday,
Speaker 1: which seems like, like I said, an olive branch. But
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the pasta, and I'm thinking about when
Speaker 1: I shot with Kyle a crossover episode years ago on
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills and Kyle said, none of these girls eat.
Speaker 1: She said that to me, she said, no one eats
Speaker 1: on the show. And I served grilled scallops and I
Speaker 1: forgot what else, like something very light, because I thought
Speaker 1: this is Beverally. You know New York. We ate like
Speaker 1: Marmona ate every sonya ate, I ate, Drinda ate like
Speaker 1: we ate.
Speaker 4: To tell me to stop eating.
Speaker 2: And almost every scene they will wait to bring it
Speaker 2: food out because they're like, Mary, can you stop eating
Speaker 2: for a few minutes so that we yes, I'm this
Speaker 2: conversation because no one wants to see you with food.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm starving. I want.
Speaker 1: But back in the day before Izenviic, everybody used to like,
Speaker 1: does Bethany even eat? She doesn't eat people assistance of mind.
Speaker 1: Everyone used to say that was the number one question.
Speaker 2: Just she eat.
Speaker 1: It was like an obsession, and Dirinda would always look
Speaker 1: at me. Dinda would tell Derinda would always tell everybody
Speaker 1: like this girl eats, and she'd look at me and
Speaker 1: she'd goes, I don't understand how that plate fits in there.
Speaker 1: She's like, poked my body, A pointed to my body
Speaker 1: and like the plate is like mounds of FOODGE like that,
Speaker 1: how does that fit in there? So she's funny about it.
Speaker 1: But I don't think anybody ate. I was looking at
Speaker 1: if anybody ate Kyle apparently ate hers. I was thinking
Speaker 1: bowl and yet's for this group like read the room.
Speaker 4: I would have loved it the same.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, oh my god, I
Speaker 2: want to I wouldn't see how he makes it and
Speaker 2: like it looks so good.
Speaker 4: It made me crave fasta Actually, when I watched it.
Speaker 1: It made I want past it out. It's so funny
Speaker 1: you said that I want pasta tonight with Brent. I
Speaker 1: literally want I was thinking, I want to make homemade sauce.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of like typical La things I saw.
Speaker 1: There was the Ivy china that I have at Ivy Pottery,
Speaker 1: and I saw what I would bet my life as
Speaker 1: a Sweet Lady Jane cake, which is a place on
Speaker 1: Melrose that looked like it wasn't.
Speaker 4: That that I think it may have been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it looked.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, and like she did a nice Duckhorn wine
Speaker 1: was a very nice wine, like and they're all giving
Speaker 1: each other all these lavish gifts, which I was thinking
Speaker 1: about the holidays and how I give aways, give out
Speaker 1: so many gifts, but that like a third of my
Speaker 1: gifts are like in the little Aramas box or in
Speaker 1: Bakara perfect wrapping, and a third of my gifts are
Speaker 1: amazing gifts, but like they're not wrapped that well because
Speaker 1: I buy gifts in bulk and stockpile them and then
Speaker 1: at Christmas I'm giving them away, so I don't have
Speaker 1: them like perfect in the bag like all the Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills housewives do. And even they brought a bottle of
Speaker 1: wine with a rose tied around, and I was thinking
Speaker 1: everything like appearances, even the gifts. It might not be
Speaker 1: like the most amazing gift, but it's gonna be in
Speaker 1: the most amazing package.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think a lot of people do do that
Speaker 2: in LA. You know, I guess it's all almost everything
Speaker 2: is presentation, though, But I.
Speaker 4: Mean, I don't know. It's a very away thing. I'm
Speaker 4: just wearing out LA.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a status symbol. Coming in with that bag is
Speaker 1: like coming in with an air mes berk and coming
Speaker 1: in with a little shopping bag from the store is
Speaker 1: a status symbol.
Speaker 2: I was watching it and I'm like, oh, they give
Speaker 2: good gifts. I was like, I just I do you
Speaker 2: think I'm a horrible gift giver? And I so when
Speaker 2: I do, I'm like, yes, I'm so fond of myself
Speaker 2: because it's something personal. I like doing something if I'm
Speaker 2: saying I want it to be personal where it's like
Speaker 2: it's I really thought it through and when something is
Speaker 2: meaningful to the person and and if I yeah, everybody
Speaker 2: likes them whatever my bracelet or or something, and yeah,
Speaker 2: and everyone's gonna be happy with it.
Speaker 1: Yes, you like a personalization of thoughts. Same same with me.
Speaker 1: I am an epic gift giver. It's a I give
Speaker 1: about two hundred and fifty gifts over Christmas and everyone
Speaker 1: is literally with the individual person in mind. I love
Speaker 1: giving gifts. I love it, and like, it's just funny
Speaker 1: that Lisa has been friends with ourself for years because
Speaker 1: she was friends with Denise for years. And Lisa, I
Speaker 1: just want you to know, is a fixture in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Like She's a permanent fixture that knows everyone. Everyone, She's
Speaker 1: been through every iteration of this business.
Speaker 4: Good for her. Yeah, yeah, I think everybody knows who
Speaker 4: she is. I mean it's not just like.
Speaker 2: When I watched it, I didn't know who a couple
Speaker 2: other people were, the Sutton and I like, I couldn't
Speaker 2: say Kathy Hilton of course, Yes, Well I just know
Speaker 2: Crystal because of because of the show, because of like
Speaker 2: them just seeing her out and stuff on on same panels.
Speaker 4: And then who else? Oh, Kyle, of course I know
Speaker 4: who she is Racio from from real estate and stuff too.
Speaker 1: Kyle's a fixture to different than Lisa Rinna, but a
Speaker 1: fixture too.
Speaker 2: Before.
Speaker 4: How is he such a picture?
Speaker 2: Was she an.
Speaker 1: Actress or Kyle? No, Lisa, she was a soap actress,
Speaker 1: and then she really and she was she was a
Speaker 1: soap actress, and then doing Dancing with the Stars really
Speaker 1: like gave her a second chapter. Oh and then she
Speaker 1: really capitalized that that she took. She Lisa knows how
Speaker 1: to take an opportunity and squeeze it and get it
Speaker 1: all out. So that's good for her. Now she's doing
Speaker 1: fashion and she's got two model daughters and like she's
Speaker 1: she knows how to reinvent.
Speaker 4: She She's like Chris Jenner.
Speaker 1: She's like another Chris Jenner, but in a way, except
Speaker 1: she's not managing other people. And I don't think she
Speaker 1: always makes like as strategic decisions. Lisa Chris Jenner is
Speaker 1: like really looking at the chessboard. Lisa's just taking all
Speaker 1: the shots she can take. Kyle's like that too, not asategic,
Speaker 1: not his chess, but taking all the opportunities and not
Speaker 1: leaving any nickel on the floor of opportunity. And uh
Speaker 1: knows all the same people, but yes, so and Lisa's
Speaker 1: definitely takes and I mean this and this is gonna
Speaker 1: sound bad, but like they say it, this is gonna
Speaker 1: sound terrible, Like the most beautiful version of a cockerroach,
Speaker 1: because cockroaches never like die like Lisa Rinna is the
Speaker 1: most beautiful cockerroach ever. Like she you don't better, She's
Speaker 1: not gonna die, like she'll be fashion the model. She'll
Speaker 1: she'll she'll be ninety two years old then selling something somewhere,
Speaker 1: so she'll be selling sunset at ninety two. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: their call. So then now I relate to Sutton a lot.
Speaker 1: Derinda would relate to Sutton, And I'll explain why Ramona
Speaker 1: wouldn't relate to Sutton, because Ramona will just like laugh
Speaker 1: off something. Ramona could say the worst thing about somebody
Speaker 1: at a table, or make the biggest mistake of her
Speaker 1: life five minutes later, have a glass of wine and
Speaker 1: let it go. She literally doesn't care. She would forget
Speaker 1: it happen. Dewinda, Sutton, myself were in a mood. Someone
Speaker 1: has set us off. They've said us, they've said something.
Speaker 1: Someone's irritating us. We can not shake it off. We
Speaker 1: cannot taylor swift it. We will just like And so
Speaker 1: Sutton is in the moment and she can't just go
Speaker 1: with the flow. She just heard detest her detestment, which
Speaker 1: is not a word, her detest. The way that she
Speaker 1: detests Crystal is in her body and she cannot do it.
Speaker 1: She can't avoid it unless she if she's in that environment.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 2: That's so I didn't know if there was something bigger
Speaker 2: when I watched it. I just don't know the backstory.
Speaker 2: But if that's it, I guess I'm trying to like that. Well, no,
Speaker 2: like that with when Christine was on our show, like
Speaker 2: because we had her friendship before, so that was a
Speaker 2: personal thing for me, Like when something happened and I
Speaker 2: would just shake, Like when when because I I was
Speaker 2: just blown away by the behavior and things that were
Speaker 2: said and I was just like it was a personal thing.
Speaker 4: It just broke my heart.
Speaker 2: Now things have happened since I just stay out of
Speaker 2: people's business. So if something happened something like it, like
Speaker 2: with Chelsea like or something like that, I'm just kind
Speaker 2: of like okay, man, like and I do I forget
Speaker 2: things like right afterwards, I'm like, oh, I don't well,
Speaker 2: that's that's good. I don't care. I've moved on because
Speaker 2: I'm like a bit like is a personal attack of
Speaker 2: something that is changing my life? Fine?
Speaker 4: If not, I'm like, I don't care what they said.
Speaker 1: Well, you're not taking the bait, and I'm sure you
Speaker 1: have taken the bait. Everybody makes a mistake of taking
Speaker 1: the bait. Yeah, the name of the reality show game
Speaker 1: is to take everything personally and to take the bait.
Speaker 1: So there could be a next scene, so it could
Speaker 1: be an explosion then a makeup, like that's the name
Speaker 1: of this game. And it also seems like this is
Speaker 1: very inside baseball. But they're like into the season, they're exhausted,
Speaker 1: You start to get stressed out. You think alcohol is
Speaker 1: the best idea because you're dehydrated and you're tired, and
Speaker 1: you just want and you get deeper into it. So
Speaker 1: Sutton's been called somebody who violated someone else. She just
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to like this person, which I totally relate
Speaker 1: to also with certain people. And there is a smugness
Speaker 1: to Crystal that is not taking the bait, but also
Speaker 1: taunting and antagonizing. Like there's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: taunting going on which is totally triggering Sutton, and she
Speaker 1: wants to lunch for her and I can relate to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an interesting episode to an interesting scene
Speaker 2: to me because knowing Crystal outside of that, she's like
Speaker 2: he always seems like no drama at all and just
Speaker 2: very sweet. And then I watched that and I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: but there's a ways to I always believe there's two
Speaker 2: sides to it too, where if you know that's something
Speaker 2: personal and with the word violating, she was accurate on
Speaker 2: the word. However, it can be taken a different way
Speaker 2: the way it said it, if that's a triggering word
Speaker 2: for for something, and it's like, Okay, I.
Speaker 4: Don't I see both sides.
Speaker 1: But well, first of all, knowing someone, knowing someone as
Speaker 1: an acquaintance in LA is very different than being in
Speaker 1: a pressure cooker with them on reality TV.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't know anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just and there's no it's just it was
Speaker 2: an interesting thing, like like the watching that he was
Speaker 2: just interesting.
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know who Sutton is either, like this
Speaker 2: is the person I've never heard of her, or know
Speaker 2: who is she.
Speaker 1: Sutton is friends with Kathy and she's just a popular
Speaker 1: one on the show. She's good friends of Corsel. She's
Speaker 1: was married, she has a beautiful divorce settlement, and is
Speaker 1: very wealthy. Apparently she rented Kyle's house one season and
Speaker 1: she seems like kind of real, like meaning she's very
Speaker 1: you know, she's she's a wealthy woman who holds no punches,
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I haven't. I think this might
Speaker 1: be the only first episode, full episode I've ever seen
Speaker 1: with her, unless we've rewatched something else. I think I
Speaker 1: rewatched one other one at a party with Crystal in
Speaker 1: her But get get I get why she's on the show.
Speaker 1: She's like the Dirinda character of this show. She's abroad
Speaker 1: and she's real and she's cool and she makes mistakes
Speaker 1: and I like it. I don't think that the characterization
Speaker 1: of her being irrational is correct, and I don't and
Speaker 1: and Crystal doubles down with like, yeah, I'm not apologizing
Speaker 1: and I'm not changing the word, and she basically says
Speaker 1: the whole quintessential Housewives' apology, I'm sorry if if it
Speaker 1: made you upset, which is not an apology. And more importantly,
Speaker 1: I've always remembered this this this group doesn't have a
Speaker 1: great sense of humor. They laugh and they laugh at
Speaker 1: like partying and getting drunk, but like they're not particularly funny,
Speaker 1: and for nobody to laugh when Cathy said, who is
Speaker 1: hunky Dory? Fuck?
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I am Literally when I watched it, I got I
Speaker 2: started dying laughing, and I what the fuck up? And
Speaker 2: my mom's here for a couple of days and I
Speaker 2: took it and I was like, you've got to see this,
Speaker 2: and I was I was absolutely crying.
Speaker 4: I was laughing so hard, and.
Speaker 2: My mom just starts She's like, she really doesn't, does
Speaker 2: she not?
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because like she said something in one
Speaker 1: of her interviews that made me realize, now the producers
Speaker 1: want her to be that person. And she said some
Speaker 1: other thing that didn't land. It was around a Garcel scene,
Speaker 1: but it was an interview and Kathy said something else
Speaker 1: that was like not that smart and dit see, but
Speaker 1: it didn't land. It wasn't like hockey Dory, which was real.
Speaker 4: Or was hilarious. Yeah, I thought.
Speaker 2: I was like, is it a Midwest thing? Is it?
Speaker 2: Or it's like just her like or like a country.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but she just didn't get it, and
Speaker 2: I thought it was the funniest, funniest thing ever.
Speaker 1: Same it was something about with her what was in
Speaker 1: her purse that they were trying to make force another
Speaker 1: funny thing in the interview, but it didn't land Crystal said,
Speaker 1: you're just jealous. I hate the word what? Like what
Speaker 1: what upside? Okay? I tell you Mary, you're jealous of me?
Speaker 1: Like what why would I say that? What would I
Speaker 1: like even if even if you were jealous of me?
Speaker 1: Like what? What? What is me saying that to you?
Speaker 1: Everyone else is gonna think I'm such a jerk because like,
Speaker 1: why would I think anyone is jealous of me? Why
Speaker 1: wouldn't you be jealous of someone twenty four with like
Speaker 1: a tight ass or a billionaire or some like You're
Speaker 1: not jealous of me? And why would she say that
Speaker 1: out loud? You're jealous of what?
Speaker 2: I know? Yeah, that word is thrown around so much,
Speaker 2: I think, and I just don't And maybe people are
Speaker 2: jealous more than I realized. But I mean, I just
Speaker 2: I'm not a jealous person. So it's always I hear
Speaker 2: all the time, and I'm like, I don't know, Like
Speaker 2: if someone has it, I mean, yo, of course people
Speaker 2: have more. You're like, oh, I want that, But it's
Speaker 2: like you do it in a like not jealous, like
Speaker 2: an aspirational yeah, like where yeah you look up to them.
Speaker 4: You're like ooh, how do I do that?
Speaker 2: Okay, Like and it's like motivating. Yeah, like I don't know,
Speaker 2: I think on a front.
Speaker 1: No, me too. But even if let's say you were jealous,
Speaker 1: would you admit it like you're jealous? Oh, you're right,
Speaker 1: I'm jealous, But like why would you say, Like it's
Speaker 1: you have such a high opinion of yourself to say
Speaker 1: to somebody else you're jealous.
Speaker 2: Never gonna admit to it. And then that then the
Speaker 2: person that says it just seems like an ass totally.
Speaker 1: So Crystal said you're jealous, and she seemed like an ass,
Speaker 1: and she opened up to a comment about about your
Speaker 1: ugly leather pants, and that moment made me look at
Speaker 1: everyone's outfit and like, this wasn't a good outfit party.
Speaker 1: We had one in the Hampton where we all just
Speaker 1: like clowns, but they were not. I didn't think of
Speaker 1: everyone's outfit Garcela any better.
Speaker 2: So I was like when she did that, then I
Speaker 2: did look at the outfits too, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put out outfits, but like considering question is gone.
Speaker 2: But I was like, I don't know, I wasn't really
Speaker 2: paying attention to anybody else's outfit. It was just because
Speaker 2: there was a conversation between the two of them. Then
Speaker 2: it does it forces you to look.
Speaker 1: So I went to everybody's outfit and I thought, this
Speaker 1: is not a good outfit party, Like, this is not
Speaker 1: It wasn't Ky, not Kyle, not Doriet, not Garcel. Garcel
Speaker 1: had like fur sleeves and a big F pat everywhere
Speaker 1: with f's everywhere, and Dorie was wearing like a ties
Speaker 1: Die rainbow outfit and the bolt belt was like all
Speaker 1: the way in the back tucked in a loop, and
Speaker 1: like maybe that's supposed to be like fashion. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it just it didn't land She had a Dio R Barrett.
Speaker 2: I remember that.
Speaker 1: I remember that, and her pink bag, which was a star.
Speaker 1: Kyle's outfit wasn't Landing. I don't remember Kathy's. I don't
Speaker 1: really remember Lisa's. Sutton's had like a lot of ornate
Speaker 1: AND's on them and crystal shirt and those leather pants
Speaker 1: also weren't great, Like nothing was that great.
Speaker 2: I don't remember anything standing out to me like, oh
Speaker 2: that's cute.
Speaker 4: But I only remember that two because in that scene,
Speaker 4: I was like I just looked, and.
Speaker 2: I obviously they pan in on the pants and then
Speaker 2: and then they go back to to satin and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, that wasn't really good choice either, but
Speaker 2: but yeah, no one else really stuck out.
Speaker 4: I remember the Findy hat. I do remember that one.
Speaker 1: This is the ABC d EFG show. They have all
Speaker 1: the letters all the time. There was another there was
Speaker 1: a throwback to a scene with Kyle where she had
Speaker 1: the G sweater. It has to always be like a
Speaker 1: bunch of There were two representations of letters in this episode.
Speaker 1: And I think like Erica's wearing like a Sergeant Pepper's
Speaker 1: Lonely Hearts band like jacket that had like shoulder pads
Speaker 1: a red why and I don't know, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the best outfit.
Speaker 2: It just wasn't a black like leather jacket or something.
Speaker 1: I think with gold or red. I just it's it's
Speaker 1: flashing before my eyes. I don't remember. But I liked
Speaker 1: her like plasticy interview look. And I liked Kyle's like
Speaker 1: for her and four Beverly Hills are own opening like
Speaker 1: yellow dress and Kyle had a big like geenie ponytail
Speaker 1: like sequins in the interviews the interview looks. I was
Speaker 1: always very very simple and did not take it up
Speaker 1: a notch. For the interviews, they always were like, can
Speaker 1: you My interview looks were just very nothing because I
Speaker 1: just couldn't deal.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't let me do anything different in the beginning,
Speaker 2: and I didn't know.
Speaker 4: I just thought, Okay, we're supposed to look like ourselves.
Speaker 2: But then on interview day they do.
Speaker 4: They have someone for hair makeup. The rest of the
Speaker 4: time we just take her of our own.
Speaker 1: Amazing Mary, So nice to meet you. Now we know
Speaker 1: each other. Thank you so much for coming one, Thank
Speaker 1: you for having me.