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Speaker 1: a lot going on. We got a lot of football

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Speaker 1: pair of tickets. Well, I think two things can be

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Speaker 1: That's not the case at all with this guy. People

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Speaker 1: complain about Chris Jones or Nick Bosa holding out. Why

429
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: those guys have a lot of leverage, as they should.

430
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: They're elite, premium players at premium positions. So if Chris

431
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Speaker 1: Jones thinks he's worth twenty eight thirty million dollars, hard

432
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Speaker 1: for me to disagree. Clearly, was a top two or

433
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Speaker 1: three non quarterback in the NFL last year. Was the

434
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: best defensive player by a wide margin on the best

435
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: team in the league. Now I don't know all the details.

436
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: Is Andy not happy? There's no communication happened. Sometimes negotiations

437
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: get ugly, especially when you're talking a lot of money.

438
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: So I understand where Chris Jones is coming from. I

439
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: also understand the Chiefs like this ain't Andy's first rodeo.

440
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: If he doesn't think that you can get to a number,

441
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: he'll trade you. Now, I don't think that would be

442
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: in the best interest of the team. I wouldn't trade him,

443
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: but these situations can get dicey. We're talking a lot

444
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: of money. Nick Bosa, the forty nine ers have no choice.

445
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: The thing with Jones is this is his third contract,

446
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: but they could still at minimum get a one, and

447
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: like multiple twos, you could get more for Bosa because

448
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 1: he's younger. But I wouldn't trade either player. I understand

449
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: why both the guys are holding out that there is

450
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: no easy way to get these done. Most situations at

451
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: the highest level of the most money when it comes

452
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: to a non quarterback historically have gotten kind of ugly.

453
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Speaker 1: Right if the guys just not immediately paid what he

454
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 1: wants to be paid, which happens sometimes, right, a lot

455
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: of guys either have to force a trade or kind

456
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: of has to do these have to do these holdouts

457
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: to get the money they're looking for. So I understand

458
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: the player side on that one. I was pro Zach Martin.

459
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: If he's underpaid, you're paying all these other guys. I'm

460
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: one of the best players on your team. I've been

461
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: a consistent All Pro, Pro Bowl level guy. Pay me

462
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: my worth. I'm well underpaid, and he got his money.

463
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: But sometimes it doesn't make any sense. Like one thing

464
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't understand in the sports business realm is everyone

465
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: that covers the NBA when these enormous contracts happen, they're like, well,

466
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: the salary cap is going to go up two to

467
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: three x because of the incoming money from the television

468
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: deal that's set to be renewed in the next eighteen months.

469
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: I said, really, your ratings have been consistently going down.

470
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: For example, ESPN's bleeding money. Rumors are that Apple might

471
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: buy them. TNT has complained about the deal that they've

472
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: signed because both of them gave you a combined billions

473
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Speaker 1: of dollars and they didn't get what they paid for

474
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: in return because low ratings, star players not playing in

475
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: primetime games, it wasn't a great deal. And now the

476
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: second time around, they're just going to double their investment.

477
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: How does that make any sense? Now, I'm not acting

478
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: like they're going to get zero, but this notion that

479
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: the television deal was going to go up two x,

480
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: let alone three x, to me, I'm just not buying it.

481
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Speaker 1: I just don't see it. The reason the NFL gets

482
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: such an enormous television deal is because they return turn

483
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: such an enormous investment to the people that buy them,

484
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: right AB or excuse me, CBS, NBC obviously, now ABC

485
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: and ESPN are involved, Fox they're incredible business partners because

486
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: when you put them on your television, they rate at

487
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: an extreme level. Why do you think the sport of

488
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: golf got so weird? It's like, well, they had to

489
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: match because liv was thrown around all this money the

490
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: PGA tour. I had to take all this money out

491
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: of savings. Their television ratings didn't equal the amount of

492
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: money they were giving their players. It was all out

493
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: of whack. So I'm just pro good business, like what

494
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: makes sense and clearly paying a running back. I'm not

495
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: anti paying a running back, but Jonathan Taylor. For example,

496
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: when Christian McCaffrey got paid or Zeke got paid, they

497
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: were coming off elite years, like back to back elite years,

498
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: so they had momentum going into the contract situation, just

499
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: like Chris Jones or Nick Bosa relative to the running back,

500
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Speaker 1: like they were coming off incredible years, like I'm an

501
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Speaker 1: elite player. We helped you win. I'm a dominant player.

502
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: Look at my number speak for themselves. Jonathan Taylor, if

503
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: he had come off his second year arguing right now,

504
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: I think he'd have more juice. But he's coming off

505
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: a season where he was legitimately injured and the team

506
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,239
Speaker 1: was a joke. So it's like the momentum for his

507
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: argument isn't really there. And then they let him seek

508
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: a trade. And I've seen this a lot. Well, they're

509
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: asking for so much. They know no one's going to

510
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: give it. Well, of course they're not just going to

511
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: give him away, like he's asking for his value. Well,

512
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: what is his actual value? Right? Because the actual value

513
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: for Chris Jones on the open market would be a boatload.

514
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: The value for Nick Bosa on the open market would

515
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: be even more than that. Right, what is the value

516
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: for JT on the open market? Because in pro sports,

517
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: when you're on the open market, either via trade or

518
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: via free agency, like it kind of speaks for what

519
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: it is. Right. Aaron Judge was on the open market,

520
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: the giants were willing to give him like three hundred

521
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars. Right. Bryce Harper was on the market,

522
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: several teams were willing to give him three hundred million dollars.

523
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: I don't agree with it. But Mike mcglinchy hit the

524
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: open market because of the scarcity of tackles, got a

525
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: team to give him fifty plus million dollars guaranteed. So

526
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: I look at JT, who is essentially on the open

527
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: market you just have to pay with a draft pick.

528
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: You think any team is willing to give him the

529
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: second and third there, like they're two and their three

530
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: to then pay him because part of trading for some

531
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: of like Christian McCaffrey, I see used a lot. He

532
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: was already under contract. The Niners just inherited the money.

533
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: They didn't have to give any signing bonus. When you

534
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: give JT. You know, let's say a four year let's

535
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: say fifteen million dollars a year. So what's that four

536
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: year sixty million dollars and I guaranteed forty five of that. Well,

537
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: signing bonus is like thirty million dollars, so I got

538
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: immediately cut him a check. Where I'm seeing all these

539
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: guys around the NFL find six seventh undrafted free agents

540
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: at running back, hel Jonathan Taylor was a second round

541
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: running back, So this gets back to the running back conversation,

542
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: his value around the league. And let's face it, he's

543
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: not handling this very seamlessly. It is really really bizarre.

544
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: He would have been better off if he just doesn't

545
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: show up. But him showing up standing there on the sideline,

546
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: let's face it looks really weird. It is not a

547
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: great look. You're better off just removing yourself from the situation,

548
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: like the Chris Jones situation. Clearly he's getting kind of weird.

549
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: He's tweeting eight weeks and he's not happy, but he's

550
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: not there, so there is no story on a daily

551
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: basis of him, just like in the corner Sulky. Now,

552
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm a believer that the hold ends typically work with

553
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: position players. This situation because of the position he plays

554
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: and because of the year he's coming off, makes it

555
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: a little more complicated. So I do think, like I

556
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: try to be very unbiased with every contractual situation, with

557
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: any business situation within pro sports, and I just look

558
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: at it from is this a good deal or is

559
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: this a bad deal? Right? Some are good, some are bad,

560
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: And I just think this Jonathan Taylor situation, like it's

561
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: hard for me to not understand where the cults are

562
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: coming from. Before we get into Harbaugh in the NCAA

563
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: one team that I think has a ton of pressure

564
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: on him, and I think two individuals for this team

565
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: have a ton of pressure on them because if Dennis

566
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: Allen and the Saints do not make the playoffs this year,

567
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: and let's face it is not going to be a

568
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 1: very good division, not only will he probably get fired,

569
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 1: he'll never be a head coach again. Like he's not

570
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: getting a third time around not when his two stints

571
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: have been just losing, not all of his faults. The

572
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: Raider situation was a disaster. But if he can't win

573
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: ten games and make and win this division with Derek

574
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Carr's quarterback, Like, I don't think he's that good, but

575
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: it will be. You wouldn't even be able to debate

576
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: me if you were Dennis Allen's dad, Like, he just

577
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: won't be a good coach. I also think Derek Carr,

578
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: who's coming off his worst years of his career relative

579
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: to once he started like really becoming a decent player.

580
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: You get seventy million dollars guaranteed, like, has a lot

581
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: on the line too. If both these guys just get

582
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: the Saints to the playoffs, even if they lose in

583
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: the first round. But given that, there would be some

584
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: pressure because they would have a home game. But that

585
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: could be like the four or five. It could be

586
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: them versus the Cowboys or them versus the Giants. It'd

587
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: be a hard game, and who knows, depending on how

588
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: the season went, they could be the underdog in that game.

589
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: But I think that's the minimum for them to have success.

590
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: And I was really thinking about, like who even Tampa's

591
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: going to be god awful, Like they are not going

592
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: to be very good at all, I think Carolina, I

593
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: know Coward was high on them. To me, they're a

594
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: year away. That offensive line, the rookie quarterback, he's getting peppered.

595
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: I know they got some good players on defense, but

596
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. To me, they're much more

597
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: likely to be a five to six win team than

598
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: a nine win team. And that's cool. If I'm Carolina,

599
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: I don't mind sucking big time this year to get

600
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: another high pick, Maybe get a star wide receiver Marvin

601
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: Harrison junior, or get a package where I can trade

602
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: and just keep building around Bryce Young. That's fine with me.

603
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: Tampa is playing for Caleb Williams Atlanta the one where

604
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: I'm kind of coming around to a little bit. I'm

605
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: not a Desmond Ritter guy, never really was in college,

606
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: and definitely not as my NFL starter. I do wonder

607
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: if they can kind of build it, like if they

608
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: were gonna have a successful season, it would have to

609
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: look like two years three years ago with the Tennessee

610
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: Titans lead the league or be one of the first

611
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: or second team in rushing. Right, they got John Robinson

612
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: technically his third on the depth chart. We all know

613
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: that he'll eventually move up. But the other guy they

614
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: had last year, I remember when they ran it down

615
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers for it, Like they got some

616
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: players at running back, but with Bjohonn they're gonna be

617
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: able to run it. They got Kyle Pitts, they got

618
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: Drake Lennon. They have some skill guys on offense, So

619
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: run the ball, little play action, be somewhat of a

620
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: boring offense, play within your quarterback, and be good on defense.

621
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: They've invested a lot on defense. I don't know. I

622
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: think they're I'm gonna have to see it first, but

623
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: you could convince me like that's the mindset of Arthur Smith,

624
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: given his personnel, how he's gonna have to play that.

625
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: That really is the only team that's best case scenario

626
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: it goes well for them, the only team that should

627
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: be able to sniff the Saints. So I saw Dennis

628
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: Allen say we got the best quarterback in the division.

629
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: He's right, they do. But when you say stuff like that, again,

630
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate a guy being candid because he knows what's

631
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: on the line, Like this is not eight and nine

632
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: will not be tolerated, I'll be fired, and I'm pretty

633
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: confident the Saints. I'm not saying how good, but they're

634
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: going to win the division. The only team to me

635
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: would be the curveball in Atlanta. And I don't know,

636
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: I just that one would be shocking to me, though

637
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: I see the formula how they could get there last,

638
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: but not least well. I guess I'll give a couple

639
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: thoughts on hard knocks, but first on the hardbass situation

640
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: about feeding the guys the cheeseburgers, I think recruits cheeseburgers

641
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 1: and getting whatever three games self imposed. But really they

642
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: knew the NCAA. And I'm sure if you listen to

643
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: a lot of football content, You've heard a lot of

644
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: people talk about this. I've been saying this forever. It's

645
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: inevitable where this is headed right college football, the high

646
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: end of college football now with USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington,

647
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: going to the Big ten, Texas, Oklahoma, you know, going

648
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: to the SEC Florida States and some of these good

649
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: program and Clemson, they just do not need the NCUBLEA.

650
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: They really play zero role. They don't They're not in

651
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: control of the playoffs. This isn't the NCAA tournament, unlike basketball,

652
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to get there, because

653
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: you're going to need somewhat of a quote unquote commissioner.

654
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: You're going to need the conferences to work together kind

655
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: of AFC, NFC, or just however they set it up

656
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: with some of these you know, Notre Dame, some of

657
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: these other players as well. But this notion that I

658
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: have to worry about doing arbitrary rules built by people

659
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: that have never been part of a football program feels

660
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: outdated to me. I understood it when the money was

661
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: a lot smaller, and it's just kind of this is

662
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: what we do. But in twenty twenty three and just

663
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: looking ahead, I feel like they're control and juice and

664
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: the power that they kind of yield around these programs

665
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: is gonna die a slow, slow death. I don't know

666
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: all the details, but I was thinking, why didn't why

667
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: did Michigan agree to do anything? Why didn't they just

668
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: go you know what? Double mental fingers, FU, kiss my ass.

669
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: We're not we don't care, we didn't. You can't do

670
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: anything to us. We're gonna win games. You can strip

671
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: our title even though everyone could watch it, assuming that

672
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: we win the conference and make the play we don't care.

673
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: We don't think you're relevant anymore, almost like a mutiny,

674
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: and you kind of feel it simmering all the way

675
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: these coaches are talking, the way these programs are operating,

676
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: that the day and age of everyone falling under the

677
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: nc double a umbrella is coming to a quick end.

678
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: Like it's gonna happen a lot faster I think than

679
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: anyone realizes now. The ultimate goal, how you could get

680
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: one kind of you know, universal agreement of how many scholarships,

681
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: what the rules are, who you have to play out

682
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: a conference. We're still a little bit aways from that,

683
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: but I think we're closer to that than the NCAA

684
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: just being able to pop people left and right when

685
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: it comes to football. I just don't see the need

686
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: to keep them in the loop and keep their ability

687
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: to be looking over your shoulder. Why do you want

688
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: that at this point in time when some of these

689
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: schools are making sixty seventy million dollars a year just

690
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: from football. So the Harbaugh situation to me feels dumb, like,

691
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: how are we still doing this? What are we doing?

692
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: What is their role? It just limits our ability as

693
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: a consumer to enjoy it when I turn on Michigan

694
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 1: week one or week two as a consumer. The reason

695
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: these network's Fox, ABC, ESPN, who CBS have paid all

696
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: this money for these programs. I want to see Jim

697
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: Harbaugh on the sideline unless he committed a crime. I

698
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: do not care if he got ten cheeseburgers or a

699
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: million cheeseburgers for every kid in the state of Michigan.

700
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: It does not matter to any of us. I think

701
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: even Ohio state fans would agree, and they have felt

702
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: the wrath of this with the trelle pryor tattoo scandal.

703
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: Who cares. Let's all just move on and just separate

704
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: ourselves from this control of Let's face it a bunch

705
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: of village idiots because they're not even in charge anymore

706
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: of generating the revenue for these programs. The football coaches

707
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: and the ads are Let's wave goodbye, move on, and

708
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: just enjoy ourselves football. Only set your own rules and

709
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: stop worrying about these moronic suspensions. Okay, last, but not

710
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: at least, I watched Hard Knocks. Several things jumped out

711
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: to me. First and foremost, Robert Salah has seven children,

712
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: seven kids, and I tweeted this out to people head

713
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: coaching salary. My girlfriend's like, God, what does his wife

714
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: do all day? Just manage the kids when he's out working.

715
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: I was like, well, he's been rich now for a

716
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: little while, right he was as a defensive coordinator. He

717
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: was making good money obviously as the Jets coach, but

718
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: there had to be a period of time eight nine

719
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: years ago when he was making I don't know, one

720
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: hundred grand or whatever as a quality control guy. With

721
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: that minimum four or five kids running around, This guy

722
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: is a child producing machine. We don't give We talk

723
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: so much about rivers, and rightfully so, he's got twenty

724
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: seven kids. Robert Salim might be setting a record. I

725
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: can't imagine any coaches in the NFL under fifty that

726
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: are sniffing seven kids. I'd be shocked if there are

727
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: many over four because I think my generation, I'm thirty eight,

728
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: two's like the new three and a half. Most of

729
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: my friends have two. I can't see myself having any

730
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: more than two. My brother, who's a little younger than me,

731
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: has two. They're done. I think two is kind of

732
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: the sweet spot for us. If you have three. I

733
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: got a lot of respect for you, even though it's

734
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: never actually been easier to have children in terms of

735
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: like the things you can do to like distract them.

736
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, my parents just said, like,

737
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: go hang in the corner. Now, I'm not saying from

738
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: an expense standpoint, it's clearly more expensive now to ever

739
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: have kids, but we didn't have iPads. My dad wouldn't

740
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: get me a game boy, so it's all I ever wanted.

741
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: It was like a game boy or whatever Sega had.

742
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: I forget the one Sega was called, and they never

743
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: get it for me. So I was like I had

744
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: to read, and obviously I didn't do too well doing that.

745
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: But my point is that the distractions for kids, but

746
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: having that many, that the challenge that's crazy to me, Like, honestly,

747
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: it's insanity. He's getting it in though, and wouldn't jog

748
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: maybe as eight. A couple things really jump out to

749
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: you about Quinnin Williams. And I'm not trying to overreact

750
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: to hard knocks, but this guy was a dominant player

751
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: last year. He looks he looks like a guy who

752
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: has a chance to be a star. I know he

753
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: kind of already is a little bit, but I mean,

754
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: like a universal. The way we talk about Watt or

755
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett or Michael Parsons or Bosa. We did forever

756
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: with Luke Keigley, Like, this is one of the best

757
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: defensive players in the league. How do you block this

758
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: guy their defensive front if Will McDonald, the guy they drafted,

759
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: and I think Johnson the pass rusher last year, and

760
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: some of their other rotational guys could just be a dominant,

761
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: dominant unit. I mean, Salah had it with the forty

762
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: nine ers in twenty nineteen when he had Buckner, Bosa,

763
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: Armstead and d Ford before d Ford fell off a

764
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: cliff that defense. I mean Sauce's stud Garrett Wilson, he

765
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: looks really skinny, but holy shit, he looks fantastic. It's

766
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: just gonna come down to And I heard Colin talking

767
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: about it today, that quote when Randall Cobb addresses the

768
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: wide receivers of like, we got to get our shit together.

769
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: If you don't know what you're doing, he won't throw

770
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: you the ball. He throws hates throwing interceptions. To me,

771
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: it's like, I get if you don't know what you're doing,

772
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: you got to figure it out. But he hates throwing interceptions.

773
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 1: Why does that matter? And Coward's been on this forever.

774
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes he is a little interception obsessed, like and I've

775
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,479
Speaker 1: always defended the Packers a little bit on how hard

776
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 1: it is to throw the ball in when they got

777
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: these home games in January. It's very, very difficult in

778
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: frigid temperatures when you're a passing team, right, You're just

779
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: not going to be able to consistently throw for three

780
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards when it's negative whatever out and

781
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: you can't feel my hands. But I remember two years

782
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: ago when they lost the forty nine ers and they

783
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: only scored the one offensive touchdown on the first drive

784
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: with DeVante Adams, Like, Aaron, you could do a little

785
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: more man like, you're being a little conservative here. And

786
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: I think Randall Cobb was basically saying, like, you know,

787
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: for a guy, and I'm an Aaron Rodgers fan, I

788
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: think he's one of the best players I've ever seen

789
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: any sport. But that comment was like why do we care? Like,

790
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: how about just this. We'll work together, We'll figure out

791
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: the route, but I'm gonna throw you the ball if

792
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: you're good. I want the ball in your hand. If

793
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: you're the guys all over your back. I won't throw

794
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: it to you, but I'll give you a chance. If

795
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: you prove to me you can be a playmaker, I'll

796
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: put it up. Give some fifty to fifty balls. It's honestly,

797
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: some of mahomes, Joe Burrow, obviously Josh Allen like that.

798
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: They're willing to take some chances. So why all those

799
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: players I think are so fun for us to discuss,

800
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: to watch as just NFL fans, even if you're not

801
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: a fan of the Bengals or the Chiefs or the

802
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: Bills or now with Herbert or Trevor Lawrence. It's like

803
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: they'll just gotta let it rip. You know, they'll just

804
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: let it rip. I'm not pro. There are some interceptions

805
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: that are devastating, right, Dak's two interceptions last year in

806
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: the playoff game. I played golf last week with a

807
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: couple guys from Texas and they're like, I flew out

808
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: for that playoff game. I felt I had a good

809
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: feeling we were gonna win it. And then by that

810
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: first Dak interception, I knew we were in major trouble

811
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: because you know, when it rains in porse. So I'm

812
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: not pro throwing picks, especially in big games, but you

813
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: gotta be there's like a balance here, there's a lot.

814
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: It feels like Rogers is very hesitant to get too

815
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: close to that line where it's like if you got

816
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, you get a tight end, like you got

817
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: some weapons on offense, Like you got to push the

818
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: envelope if you're ever going to win another Super Bowl.

819
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: And it might not happen this year just because their

820
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: offensive line might suck, but they'll be definitely one of

821
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: the more talented teams next year, if you know, if

822
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: they go eight to nine. Cause I got a lot

823
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: of people in my DMS, and rightfully so, they're like

824
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: middle cough, you're blowing the Jets. Rogers played on way

825
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: more talented Packer teams than underwhelmed, Like what are you

826
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: talking about? And I think it's fair. I have rolled

827
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: back a little bit of my Jets hype because it

828
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: is hard to be a twelve thirteen win team if

829
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: three of your five offensive linemen are question marks. I'm

830
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: not arguing that. I'm not being naive and just throwing

831
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: this out here to get a reaction. I mainly am

832
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: just betting on all their talent. But if that's your

833
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: big weakness, that's I mean, it could be the downfall

834
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: of a season, right, So maybe it's they're eight to

835
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: nine or nine to eight this year, maybe they missed

836
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: the play help. Maybe somehow they figure it out and

837
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: get to ten wins and next year they're better. But

838
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: if they're going to win a super Bowl, which is

839
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: gonna be the goal as long as they have Aaron Rodgers,

840
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: or at least get there, so to win several AFC

841
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: playoff games, he's gonna have to push the envelope in

842
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: big spots. He'll do it sometimes in regal season games

843
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: when he's putting up these big numbers. But you've seen

844
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: at times the last couple of years, I'm a defender,

845
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: it was like, come on, man, pull a trigger. Let's

846
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: let it rip, right, let it rip when it's not

847
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: super easy, when you're not just you know, molly wopping

848
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: the Bears, when you're not up by fifteen against the Lions,

849
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: because one knock on Rogers is a lot of his

850
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: sweet production has come over a decade now. He's produced

851
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: against everybody, but his numbers against division are outrageous. He's

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Speaker 1: destroyed them. I mean, so when Dalvin Cook goes, it's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool to be playing with them. I don't blame him.

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook's had a front row seat to one of

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Speaker 1: the best players in the league. Who's played him. However,

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Speaker 1: how long was he there? Six years or twelve times?

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Speaker 1: And I would imagine a lot those games have been

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Speaker 1: fireworks show from Rogers. But the pressure's gonna amp up,

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Speaker 1: you know it, really, it really is. Given that we

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Speaker 1: got a finite amount of time. Like, this guy does

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Speaker 1: not have an eight year runway. He's thirty nine, forty

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Speaker 1: years old. He's got a couple of year window to

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Speaker 1: kind of get it done. Can he just have like

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Speaker 1: the Joe Montana Chiefs, because that would be successful. Get

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs a couple of times, make it to

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Speaker 1: an AFC championship game. That will not be a failure,

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Speaker 1: won't be the It won't change his legacy really, but

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Speaker 1: it will be a positive on his resume. Right. But

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Speaker 1: if he underwhelms for a couple of years or the

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Speaker 1: team underwhelms, he's other guys will get fired, right, but

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Speaker 1: he'll get the shit. We'll forget about Robert Sala in

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Speaker 1: the year, who is very enjoyable on hard Dogs, He

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Speaker 1: just feels like, I don't want to play for this guy.

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Speaker 1: Heels like a great guy, good in front of the team.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him as a defensive coordinator. He's really good.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Robert Sola fan. Is he a really good coach?

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Speaker 1: Tim will tell pressure's on, Nathaniel Hackett. Everyone's watching you.

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Speaker 1: Man the volume