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Here 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: we go one. 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 4: Hand and catch it a touchdown? 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Oh baby, how's that feel? Here's Craig Grioloud, Paul Calvic 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: and defensive force Rob Frederickson. 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 3: So there are two parts to the NFL offseason. Part 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: one just ended that includes free agency of the draft, 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: OTA's Mini camp. Now we begin part two, or the 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: off and off season is really stressed. The front office, coaches, 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: players except the rookies are all gone off until training camp, 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: which is evident here at the Dignity Health Arizona Cardinals 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: Training Center by the number of parking spots still available 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: even at this hour. And then just walking around the 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: facility policy and the number of offices stores closed, lights 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 3: off on one side of the building. Yeah, we are 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 3: officially into the offseason where there is no. 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 5: More work to be done, and then the grind begins, right, 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 5: so you better enjoy it. Of course, if you're a 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 5: player and you're on the fringe and you're thinking, all right, 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 5: there is a team to be made, you can't let 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 5: yourself get too far into vacation mode or it will 31 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 5: cost you come that last week of July. But it's 32 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 5: necessary to get out, get away, get some mental health 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 5: for the next few weeks because it's gonna be a 34 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 5: long seventeen game season. 35 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: Rookies here for one more week and then they are 36 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: given a five week break, and you do need that break, 37 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: rob both physically obviously, and then this the mental break. 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: Try to get away, but still make sure you're staying 39 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: in shape, because training camp is not to get in shape. 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: You have to arrive in shape. 41 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 6: Well, that's right, agree, and you do need some time off. 42 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 6: But I gotta imagine after a week or so, even 43 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 6: though technically they're off until training camp, I gotta imagine 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 6: you're gonna see some veterans. You're gonna see the free agents, 45 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 6: You're gonna see the rookies back in here. You're gonna 46 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 6: see a lot of guys staying around here working out 47 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 6: up until training camp. 48 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: It's important because there is a lot of eyeballs on 49 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: the number of new faces in this building. Both guys 50 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: that are coming in with some familiarity with the coaching 51 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: staff and then those players that are returning. Everyone's looking 52 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 3: to open up some eyes and make sure where they 53 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: stand within this coaching stuff. And Rob this is a 54 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: level playing field for all ninety players, no matter how 55 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: you got here. You're all in the same boat. 56 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, it's a clean slate, right, and and there's 57 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 6: good and bad with that. It's good it's a new 58 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 6: coaching staff, a new front office, and you have a 59 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 6: clean slate. You have the opportunity to kind of paint 60 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 6: your own pitcher with what you do and how you 61 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 6: do it in the off season. So, you know, I 62 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 6: going back to my earlier comment, I think that you're 63 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 6: going to see a fair amount of players sticking around 64 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 6: and working out in the off season and and doing 65 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 6: everything they can to learn the new offense, learn a 66 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 6: new defense, and just kind of gained some familiarity and 67 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 6: gain some camaraderie with the coaching staff and with the 68 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 6: other players. 69 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 5: You know, Coach Belichick and is saying no days off. 70 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 5: I'd say the marketing mantra right now, no allegiances between 71 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 5: Jonathan Gann and Monty austin Ford and the vast majority 72 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 5: of this roster no allegiances. And so if you're a 73 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 5: player in that locker room, you're wondering, what do they 74 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 5: think of me? And what do they think of my 75 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 5: play versus my salary? What is my value my worth 76 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 5: to these decison vision makers. I just feel there's a 77 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 5: little more intensity out there in that guess what. The 78 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 5: vast majority of players still are in prove it mode. 79 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 5: You can be a five, six, ten year veteran, but 80 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 5: if you're a Calvin Beacham, what are you thinking right now? 81 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 5: You know you would figure, okay, I'm valuable. But if 82 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 5: there's a starting rookie right tackle, then how exactly do 83 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 5: they assess where you're going to end up? And if 84 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 5: they're truly looking into the future, and this is a 85 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 5: two or three year reset button, then maybe they're thinking 86 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 5: that roster spot would be valued more going to a 87 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 5: young player we can develop. So I think everybody as 88 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 5: probably some thoughts unless you're a franchise player Josh Jones. 89 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: You look at the defensive lot Rashard Lawrence, a Lucky Fote, 90 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 3: two players who have been here versus the players that 91 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: they have brought in to compete for those positions. And 92 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 3: I'm just not just singling out the line of scrimmage, 93 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 3: but that goes on both sides of all every single 94 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: position group. But we have seen now ten ota practices, 95 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 3: two weeks worth of camp, there was a voluntary veteran 96 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: mini camp ahead of the draft, and then what was 97 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: completed just last week, two days of mandatory mini camp 98 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: and the last chance to hear from the head coach, 99 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon on where he believes the Cardinals stand here 100 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: in late June. 101 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 7: At a point there in the offseason, it felt like 102 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 7: we were moving fast on a lot of things, a 103 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 7: lot of different balls in the air. But I really 104 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 7: like where we are as far as where we are 105 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 7: right now at the end of mini camp and a 106 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 7: lot of work to be done this summer, but I 107 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 7: think that we set a good foundation for when we 108 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 7: come back here. You know it's going to be it's 109 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 7: going to be ratcheted up just to tad that foundation. Rob, 110 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 7: I think that's a key word, because with a new 111 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 7: front office, new coaching staff, what are the expectations people 112 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 7: that are brand new to the building all of a sudden. 113 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 7: This is where you start that developing not only the chemistry, 114 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 7: but that keyword, the culture, the accountability, and what the 115 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 7: expectations are for this team both on and off the field. 116 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 6: Well, I think I think you can see that by 117 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 6: Kyler Murray's presence here in the offseason and in his rehab. 118 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 6: He's never really done that before, maybe maybe because there 119 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 6: was some familiarity, maybe because there was some comfort with 120 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 6: the previous coaching staff where he felt like he didn't 121 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 6: really need to be here in the offseason. But you 122 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 6: see him making meaningful attempts at at creating and building 123 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 6: relationships off the field, and then also you know, just 124 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 6: just absorbing the playbook and being a leader within the 125 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 6: meeting rooms, the weight room, and out on the practice fields. 126 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 6: You know, regardless of whether or not Kyler Murray considers 127 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 6: himself a leader, and at times I think he probably hasn't, 128 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 6: he is the leader of this team. Your quarterback is 129 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 6: always a leader of your team, and and and the 130 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 6: players the meat and potato players will will take kind 131 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 6: of their lead off of how that quarterback conducts himself. 132 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting you look at some of the 133 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 5: players in this roster and even former players like Rob 134 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 5: We were doing the Big Red Rage and I threw 135 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 5: out there the proverbial media guy question, right, geez, do 136 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 5: you want teams take on the identity of the head coach? 137 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 5: And it's amazing to me how many guys immediately say yes. 138 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 5: And if you drill down deeper, and I talked to 139 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 5: a couple of former players and they'll say, you know what, specifically, 140 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 5: a team will take on the culture of the head coach. 141 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 5: So what has Jonathan Gannon been trying to do? What 142 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 5: are those two words he keeps repeating over and over, 143 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 5: winning behavior. It's either winning behavior or it isn't. So 144 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 5: when Dennis Gardec says that accountability has been ratcheted up, 145 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 5: and it was a little uncomfortable at first to quote 146 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 5: him loosely. When XAVI and Collins says players feel the 147 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 5: pressure and it's a good thing. It's all by design. 148 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon is reminded me of that in front of 149 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 5: the media more than once, that yes, this is his 150 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 5: way of establishing that culture, which he hopes will be 151 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 5: reflected immediately week one. 152 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 6: You're always gonna have buy in from that cultural shift 153 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 6: and those expectations shift. You're always going to have buy 154 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 6: in from the meat and potato players, right the Rob 155 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 6: Frederickson is for lack of better even though you were 156 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 6: a first round pick. Well, I'm just saying, uh, the 157 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 6: heart of the team, the mass of the team, You're 158 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 6: always gonna have buy in. It's it's on the periphery, 159 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 6: it's it's it's the superstars that you know at times, 160 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 6: uh you can you can kind of, you know, walk 161 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 6: that line with and whether or not they buy in 162 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 6: or not. And and to have Kyler Murray being here 163 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 6: the entire offseason, I think says an enormous amount about 164 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 6: the buy in from from the superstars, from the stars 165 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 6: of this team. And again, you're always going to have 166 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 6: that buy in from from the from the from the 167 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 6: heart and the soul and the meat and potatoes of 168 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 6: the team. But it's it's those superstars that sometimes you 169 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 6: don't have it. And and with with Kyler Murray being here, 170 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 6: that says a lot. 171 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: We heard from DJ Humphreyes talk about how much better. 172 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: He knows Kyler the person because one Kyler's been here 173 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: and he's been rehabbing, as has DJ rehabbing as well, 174 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: So there's been spending more time together within the facility 175 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: getting to know one another. De Jeoffrey's mentioned he was 176 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: already a number one Kyler Murray fanny, but he's an 177 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: even bigger Kyler Murray fan right now going into what 178 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: is a little bit of an unknown as far as 179 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: what Kyler status is going to be here this upcoming season. 180 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 5: Look, you're either part of the solution or you're part 181 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 5: of the problem. There's a reason DeAndre Hopkins is no 182 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 5: longer here, just wasn't a good fit. A Buddha baker. 183 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 5: We figure they're gonna get something done. So there's a 184 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 5: reason because to Rob's point, you could be a superstar, 185 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 5: but are you buying in? And so you have and 186 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 5: if you're not, guess what. Once again, no allegiances. Now, 187 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 5: Kyler's the exception in terms of his contract and he's 188 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 5: got six years left and the big money hasn't even 189 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 5: kicked in yet. I just saw this the other day. 190 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 5: That is cap number this year is sixteen million. Cose 191 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 5: cap number's effective next year is fifty one million, so 192 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 5: he's most definitely part of the future. But it's getting 193 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 5: all those other guys around him. And even DJ Humphreys 194 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 5: mentioned that Hey, as a franchise left tackle making fifteen 195 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 5: million plus this year. If you're not gonna beginning, you're 196 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 5: not gonna be doing that rep right. There are guys 197 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 5: behind you in line that are eager to take your 198 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 5: time in front of the head coaches. 199 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: Backups always want to be starters, and you don't ever 200 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: want to get that tap on the shoulder if you 201 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: are a starter, and because all of a sudden, then 202 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, your job has been replaced. But 203 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: as we heard from Gannon earlier, training camp now is 204 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: the next step. First open training camp practice by the 205 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 3: way at State Farm Stadium Thursday, July twenty seventh. 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Speaking of the 210 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: head coach and training camp, jag on what's to come 211 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: now in late July. 212 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 7: I know they're rare and to go when they get 213 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 7: the training camp schedule, and I've got a lot of 214 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 7: input from a lot of guys about that what I 215 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 7: wanted to get out of it, and you know it 216 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 7: was it was cool to hear their thoughts of where 217 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 7: we can improve and make sure we're doing a good 218 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 7: job getting ready to go week one. 219 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: There are I'll say this because as much as there 220 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 3: hasn't been much going on or many people in the 221 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 3: building on the football side, there are still three open 222 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: roster spots. And I say that just to have that 223 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: in the back of everyone's mind, not that anything is 224 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 3: upcoming this week or next week, but this team does 225 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: have three open roster spots, whether that's a wide receiver, 226 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: a center, someone on the defensive line, a corner, an 227 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: edge rusher, a veteran presence, if you will, in one 228 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 3: of those position rooms that we have questions about now. 229 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: Is that ahead of training camp or during training camp. 230 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: But it does give the Cardinals a little bit of 231 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: wiggle room. 232 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 5: And I do expect them to add to this roster. 233 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 5: We heard some reports in the last month or so 234 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 5: about possibly looking at a veteran center. That would make 235 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 5: a lot of sense because beyond Yelda Frohold, I mean, 236 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 5: you're truly unproven in a John Gains or whichever direction 237 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 5: you might go, Lasitas Smith. Even Yelda Frohold has four 238 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 5: total starts at the position, even though he has five 239 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 5: years in the league D line, that's the land of opportunity, 240 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 5: Whereas I think you're much deeper in the old line 241 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 5: than maybe most people figure in the national media when 242 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 5: you watch the D line. And then you didn't see much, 243 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 5: if any of Rashard Lawrence or Jonathan Ledbetter. So what 244 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 5: exactly does that mean? And some big components are from 245 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 5: the twenty twenty draft class or in contract years, whether 246 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 5: it's Rashard Lawrence or Lucky Fotu. So all right, what 247 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 5: does that mean? So I would say between those and 248 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 5: then corner, I mean you better have three and ideally four. 249 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 5: How many do the Cardinals truly have right now? And 250 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 5: if Marco Wilson was your number two, is he equipped 251 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 5: to be your number one minus Byron Murphy this year? 252 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 3: Well, right now it is Marco Wilson and Antonio Hamilton 253 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: as your top two corners at least based off of 254 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: guys returning, and then just a lot of unknown after that. 255 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: But again, first open training camp practice Thursday, July twenty seventh. 256 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: All the details got Azycardinals dot com first headed practice, 257 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: the one I'm guessing Rob will be paying attention to 258 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: the most as much as many as everyone else, because 259 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: that's when football really begins. You get the pads on, 260 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 3: and that's when you actually get to hit and find 261 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: out about each other. 262 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 6: When we got the schedules, we always looked for when 263 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 6: our first non padded practice was gonna be. Now we 264 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 6: got to look for when the first padded practice is 265 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 6: gonna be. 266 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 3: It's a six day ramp up when training camp begins 267 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 3: before you get that first padded practice again. All the 268 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: details on Easycardinals dot Com. This is the Cardinals Red 269 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: Seat Report, presented by seat Geek Your Ticket to Great Seats, 270 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: Craig Real, Lupaul CALVC, and Rod Frederickson. Here on the 271 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals Radio. 272 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 8: Network, Detroit. Hey, okay, so so twelve go ahead, twelve 273 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 8: thirty four and one sixty eight for six and eighty one. Okay, 274 00:13:58,440 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 8: call it in. 275 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: That was Bonnie austin Ford back on draft night. That 276 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: was the end of April. Here we are the end 277 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 3: of June, and I still get goosebumps every time I 278 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: hear that or see it. That was part of Cardinals 279 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 3: Flight Plan. If you have not seen it, Even if 280 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: you have, I recommend going and watching it again. That 281 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 3: first two and a half three minutes the general manager 282 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: wheeling and dealing. As we all know, the Cardinals go 283 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: from three to twelve to six to land Paris Johnson Junior, 284 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: And that was the focal point although this episode of 285 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: Cardinals Flight Plan, and we got a little glimpse, Paul 286 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: of what the first year general manager is capable of 287 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: doing in the heat of the moments. 288 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 5: And it was the heat of the moment. I mean 289 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 5: it was below the two minute warning. He took it 290 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 5: down to a minute forty on the clock. And you know, 291 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 5: there are a lot of cool, calm collected faces in 292 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 5: that room. But internally we've come to learn, whether it's 293 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon or Michael Bidwell, there were following hard and 294 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 5: they were gripping a little bit in there. Now you 295 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 5: wonder if Moni's reputation is going to precede him next 296 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 5: year when he starts calling around for trades. We've all 297 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 5: seen the movie Moneyball, right, you know those days when 298 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 5: Billy Bean as the A's general manager was swinging all 299 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 5: these trades at the point where nobody would trade with 300 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 5: him anymore. So you got to hopefully Minnie will still 301 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 5: get calls after that. 302 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 6: Well, I was thinking more about Draft Day and Kevin Koshner. 303 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 6: I don't know who's better, Moni or Kevin Costner. I 304 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 6: don't know. 305 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 5: That's all we need with some Hollywood music back there, 306 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 5: the extra drama going on. 307 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: You bring up good point, though, Paul, this might have 308 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: an adverse effects on MANI moving forward when that phone 309 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 3: rings and the team goes Cardinals six zho two for it. 310 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm not picking that one up at all. 311 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: But let's talk a little bit about Manti austin Ford. 312 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: It was the first major move of the offseason, a 313 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: brand new general manager, and the introductory press conference. What 314 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: we all talked about on that day and the days 315 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: to come, as we do right now, on what Austin 316 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: Ford believes that this team is capable of doing and 317 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: what he is looking for specifically in a player. 318 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 9: We're going to look for the right type of players. 319 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 9: Ego will not be tolerated in this organization. There's one 320 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 9: goal here. It's to win. There's no putting personal interests 321 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 9: in front of the team. I was told once the 322 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 9: definition of mental toughness is putting the team in front 323 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 9: of something that maybe would have been better personally for me. 324 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 9: So that, to me is the type of players that 325 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 9: we're looking for. 326 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: Ego will not be tolerated. Those five words, Rob just 327 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: continued to resonate, and then it continued with the hiring 328 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: of Jonathan Gannon where he mentioned that it's team first, 329 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: you second, that's the mentality of the twenty twenty three 330 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals and the Cardinals moving forward under the direction 331 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 3: of Mani and JG. 332 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think Monty saw correctly that you know, 333 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 6: not that the cupboards were bare, but this was a 334 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 6: top heavy team in terms of their starters, and then 335 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 6: there wasn't a lot of depth behind that, much like 336 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 6: the the Phoenix Suns this year. You know, it's it's 337 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 6: just the starters and then not much else. So I 338 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 6: think he did an exceptional job in the draft and 339 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 6: free agency in terms of really stocking up and build, uh, 340 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 6: getting ready to build this thing into something special going forward. 341 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 6: Now it may may take a year or two, but 342 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 6: you know, you have to respect that that he has 343 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 6: a vision, and he has a plan and and he's 344 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 6: gonna implement it. And to his point, he's he's got 345 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 6: a certain type of player that he's looking for, and 346 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 6: he's not gonna he's not gonna cut corners on that. 347 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 6: He's he's gonna find the players that that fit the 348 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 6: mold that that coach Gannon wants as well. And and 349 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 6: they're gonna they're gonna find him via draft, via free agency. 350 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 6: But that that's that's the process, and it may take 351 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 6: a year or two. 352 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 5: One of his nicknames is Monty Hall h A U L. 353 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 5: I think it was bestowed upon him by our own 354 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 5: Jim al Mahandro. And if you look at the rest 355 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 5: of the draft class beyond Paris Johnson Junior, who's strapped 356 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 5: and we heard there in the little clip right and 357 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 5: then the whole trade and they trade back up to 358 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 5: get Paris Johnson Junior. Really it's day two and day 359 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 5: three I'm most curious about in this draft class. What 360 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 5: did Seattle do last year? With that draft class? They 361 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 5: nailed a half dozen different picks. You know, they went 362 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 5: a decade without much out of the draft. Man, did 363 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 5: they nail last year? That's what needs to happen on 364 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 5: this Cardinals team. You need to get Key Trell Clark 365 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 5: in your top three or four corners, Dante Stills into 366 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 5: your d line rotation, guys both taking in the sixth round. 367 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 5: Michael Wilson a round three kid if he really can 368 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 5: be your ex receiver and get in that rotation at 369 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 5: Garrett Williams if he comes back from injury and all 370 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 5: of a sudden he's someone who figures in the cornerback mix. 371 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 5: And then of course Clayton Tune the quarterback. If he 372 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 5: can beat out a Jeff Driscoll and a David Blow 373 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 5: That's to me gonna be the signature hallmark of this 374 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 5: draft class is everyone beyond Paris Johnson Junior. 375 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: You brought up the Seahawks and last year that draft 376 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: class accounted for seventy starts now compared to the car 377 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: Ferdinals twenty two starts, and that was mostly Trey McBride, 378 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 3: who had thirteen starts his first year. But Rob, that's 379 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 3: where you build the team. Yeah, it's great to have 380 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 3: superstars and your franchise quarterback, but to have sustained success, 381 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: you have to be able to build through the draft. 382 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 3: And this might take a little time. Yeah, you can 383 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 3: have a quick turnaround, but building through the draft, this 384 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 3: first draft class is going to be I think whatever 385 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: one turns and looks back on when you go all right, 386 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 3: this is where things turned around with Monty Austin Fortant Company. 387 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 6: Well, it's also advantageous to build through the draft because 388 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 6: of the cap friendliness of it, right, and just the 389 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 6: ability to develop and to get some potential stars on 390 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 6: a rookie deal. That's important. And as far as the 391 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 6: long term growth and development of this team and of 392 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 6: the players, it's so vital to hit on the draft 393 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 6: as much as you can. Obviously, you don't know. You 394 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 6: don't know on all these picks, and you think you 395 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 6: know on a few of them, but you're hoping that 396 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 6: some of these, based on your due diligence, based on 397 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 6: all your prep work, some of these guys really hit 398 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 6: and become the stars that you think they can. 399 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 3: That first draft pick Paris Johnson Junior sixth. Overall his 400 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 3: introuctory press conference, he knew right away what he was 401 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: walking into with Monty Austin Ford and head coach Jonathan Gannon. 402 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 10: The one thing that I noticed is that his passion 403 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 10: to develop guys and guys in the building who want 404 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 10: the same thing as him, which is established a winning culture, 405 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 10: you know, and his thing was, you know, those guys 406 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 10: that don't have that winning mentality are not going to 407 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 10: be here. 408 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: We also keep hearing of that one word accountability, and 409 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: that can mean a number of different things. Paul doesn't 410 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: have to be negative, but being accountable to the guy 411 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 3: that is lined up next to you, being accountable to 412 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 3: your entire team, and just being accountable to yourself. Are 413 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 3: you doing what you're supposed to be doing to live 414 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: up the expectations? 415 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 5: And we've heard some of the anecdote right where guys 416 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 5: have been held accountable in the meeting rooms. Kanty Ingram 417 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 5: on the Big Red Rage most recently said both in 418 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 5: the meeting room and out on the field that both 419 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 5: JG and other position coaches while all of a sudden, 420 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 5: just pepper on with a question, are you locked in? 421 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 5: Are you paying attention? You've been doing your homework? Zav 422 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 5: and Colin's story about eating in the team meeting room, 423 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 5: val shout not multitask. So yes, it is a tone 424 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 5: being set, and it's that accountability at every single turn, 425 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 5: not just on game day. But what gets you to 426 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 5: game day. And remember we've talked about this. You're talking 427 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 5: about a team that two of the last three years 428 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 5: has been top three in penalties, and last year led 429 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 5: the NFL and accepted penalties and led the NFL in 430 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 5: accepted false start penalties. These are all pre snap penalties 431 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 5: for the most part, that can be remedied and are 432 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 5: so costly. When you're putting yourselves further behind the sticks. 433 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: It becomes a first or I should say a third 434 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: and seven becomes a third and twelve. 435 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 6: It's a drive killer. 436 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 3: Or on defense, you're you jump off sides and all 437 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 3: of a sudden on what was first and third and three, 438 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, it's an automatic first down. 439 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: You're and you're going backwards as opposed to walking off 440 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 3: the football fields. Those little things that sustain drives. And 441 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 3: I think that's where it begins right now, Rob is 442 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: here in this offseason that's not going to be tolerated. 443 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's a different culture, and it's resetting the expectations. 444 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 6: And again everyone's buying in at the time right now 445 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 6: and once, honestly, all this in the off season will 446 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 6: be forgotten the first day of training camp. Okay, you know, 447 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 6: in terms of your attendance, in terms of everything that 448 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 6: happened in the off season. But it is important to 449 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 6: instill a new culture, instill really the new expectations for 450 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 6: this team because there are a lot of young guys 451 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 6: on this team. There are a lot of guys that 452 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 6: are going into contract years that really do need to 453 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 6: prove something, and so it's it's important for the buy 454 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 6: in and I think they're getting. 455 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: It that first training camp practice Paul Weather, it's the 456 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 3: open one or just that it's closed but open to 457 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: the media, And just how much is retained? How much 458 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 3: do these players bring back with them that was taught 459 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 3: in the classroom on the football field to where this 460 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: team can Yeah, it's training camp and you still have 461 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 3: several weeks ago before week one, But do you have 462 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 3: to go backwards in order to go forwards? Or can 463 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: this team kind of hit the ground running? 464 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 11: You know. 465 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 5: One of the comments I thought was interesting the Saw 466 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 5: season Jalen Thompson where he said that Nick Rowis is 467 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 5: allowing them to play a little more free, especially in 468 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 5: the secondary, but first they have to master the scheme. 469 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 5: And I think once they actually get the playbook in 470 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 5: the new scheme down, and zach Ertz ninety eight to 471 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 5: seven right said that this offense couldn't be any more 472 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 5: different than Cliff Kingsbury's scheme. So once they get it down, 473 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 5: I think it really will simplifying, streamline things and hopefully 474 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 5: take some of the thinking out that we saw the 475 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 5: last couple of years that maybe led to some of 476 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 5: the penalties. Too much thinking, too much second guessing, and 477 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 5: if you can really unlock some of the athleticism on 478 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 5: this roster by simplifying things. And Kyser White will be 479 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 5: instrumental knowing the defense, calling the defense, will be the 480 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 5: quarterback of the defense of that Mike linebacker spot. And 481 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 5: then Cole McCoy I think, fourteenth year in the NFL. 482 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 5: In a roundabout way, that'll maybe be beneficial to everyone 483 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 5: on that side of the ball because right out of 484 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 5: the gates he'll be illustrating and demonstrating here's how this 485 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 5: thing should be run. 486 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: These five weeks, Rob, yeah, you got to make sure 487 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 3: you're physically in shape, but don't forget about that playbook 488 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 3: and making sure you are aware and remember what you're 489 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 3: supposed to do, what your assignment is on a particular 490 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: play particular series. 491 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, playbook is difficult in that you know, the players 492 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 6: learn best out on the field and especially when there's 493 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 6: full contact, full pads, and they're able to really get 494 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 6: a sense for the timing of plays, especially on offense. 495 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 6: So I'm looking forward to that in training camp, and 496 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 6: I know the players are as well. 497 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: Training camp at the end of July, all the details 498 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: on Azcardinals dot com once again will be held at 499 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: State Farm Stadium. We have hit halftime here on the 500 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 3: Cardinals Red Seat Report presented by seat Geek, your ticket 501 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 3: to great seats. When we continue defense, Rob's parts of 502 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage where he is the defensive force, well, 503 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 3: he is our force here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 504 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 12: Let's go, Get out of huddle, Get your eyes to 505 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 12: the offense. 506 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 1: Get out of the huddle, Get your eyes to the offense. 507 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 12: How you showing getting all the metal adjustment checks. You 508 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 12: know what I think we got to do a better 509 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 12: job of is getting us I'm on at the offense, 510 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 12: you know, get him out of the huddle and get 511 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 12: your eyes to the offense. We shouldn't be like mulling around, 512 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 12: like looking around at each other, like get your eyes 513 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 12: of the offense, so we can start identifying be ahead 514 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 12: of the motion. Yeah, like we gotta break, get in 515 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 12: a huddle. Git. Yeah, a little too late. We got 516 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 12: guys like kind of moving around this and that. Like 517 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 12: you set that tempo, let's go. 518 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 3: This is why this is the perfect week to have 519 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 3: defensive force. Rob Fredrickson here on the Cardinals red zea 520 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: report presented by seat Geek Your Ticket to Great Seats. 521 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 3: As we walking back to the second half of the show, 522 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon wired on a recent Ota practice talking with 523 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 3: linebacker Kaiser White, and it's something I'd never really thought about, Rob, 524 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: but it makes perfect sense. Defensive guys typically don't huddle 525 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 3: in a circle. You're always kind of lined up, huddling up, 526 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: semi humble, but you're always looking at the offense, trying 527 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 3: to get an idea of what the offense is going 528 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: to do, and just listening to JG there. Maybe the 529 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 3: defensive players aren't spending enough time looking at how the 530 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 3: offense is breaking in the huddle or initially lining up 531 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: and getting that extra split seconds or able to get 532 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 3: everyone else where they need to be defensively to attack 533 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 3: that particular snap. 534 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 6: In the player's defense, A lot of times in between plays, 535 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 6: especially in mini camps, and then you're stalling a new defense, 536 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 6: new offense. There's a lot of coaching going on in 537 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 6: between plays, and so if a players over here trying 538 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 6: to listen to his coach but also trying to get 539 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 6: back in the huddle and get the play, things can 540 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 6: happen like that. But yeah, of course, obviously defensively, you 541 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 6: want to see what personnel grouping is in there. You 542 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 6: want to see how they come out of their huddle. 543 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 6: You want to see you want to because you're thinking, Okay, 544 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 6: this is the play call, but if this guy motions, 545 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 6: if this guy shifts, then we're changing to this. You 546 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 6: have to have all of those potential scenarios running through 547 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 6: your mind so that when it does happen, you're not 548 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 6: a caught off guard and you're not shocked. 549 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 3: Guys say this. 550 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 5: I think Kayzer White is an underrated part of this 551 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 5: defense right now. I think he might be the key 552 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 5: to the defense absolutely in terms of yes, calling the 553 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 5: defense quarterback of the defense. Cardinals had their struggles in 554 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 5: that department obviously, Isaiah Simmons, he was tasked week one 555 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 5: last year. By the end of the game it was 556 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 5: Zavon Collins wearing the green dot, and then that was 557 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 5: a process. There was a learning curve for Zaman Collins 558 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 5: to call the defense the rest of the year. That's 559 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 5: why playing in the outside linebacker spot is so much 560 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 5: easier for Zavin. He just has to worry about his 561 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 5: position and what's either coming at him or away from 562 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 5: him instead of playing the mic and any and everything 563 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 5: is an option for where he's lined up. But Kaizer 564 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 5: White is adamant that his best year in the NFL 565 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 5: was his fourth season for the Chargers, the one season 566 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 5: he played middle linebacker, and I think he's really motivated 567 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 5: to prove that he's a legit productive middle linebacker in 568 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 5: this league, something you need to get a chance to 569 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 5: do in that Eagles defense, And I think that's one 570 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 5: of the big reasons he came here because Nick Rolis 571 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 5: and Jonathan Gannon, he's now running their scheme. 572 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 3: He wasn't needed to do too much within that Eagles 573 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: defense because they had so many stars, if you will. 574 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,959 Speaker 3: But within this defense, Rob he comes in knowing the 575 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: head coach, knowing the defensive coordinator, all three together in Philadelphia. 576 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: So as much as a lots on Kaiser White's plate 577 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: as far as just his own role and assignments, He's 578 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 3: gonna be asked a lot to get his teammates and 579 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 3: answer a lot of questions, whether that was in the 580 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 3: off season or training camp, just to make sure everyone 581 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: else is on the same page. 582 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 6: Just getting getting them lined up correctly. You know that 583 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 6: that's number one, and that's that's the job of the 584 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 6: middle linebacker. And Cazerer White has has familiarity in history 585 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 6: with this defense, so he's gonna understand. He's gonna be 586 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 6: able to communicate with everybody up front. Buddha Baker has 587 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 6: always been the lead communicator in the back and he's 588 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 6: done a tremendous job. And and I envision that continuing 589 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 6: because you have to have the coverage right, you know, 590 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 6: and and with motions and shifts pre snap and post snap. UH, 591 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 6: you have to be on the same page. And so 592 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 6: you know, there's some solid book ends right there with 593 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 6: Kazeer White up front, getting everybody lined up and getting 594 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 6: everybody on the same page up front, uh, and then 595 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 6: Buddha Baker on the back end. 596 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 5: And by the way, that clip there where Jonathan Gannon 597 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 5: walks up on Kaiser White and they have that conversation. 598 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 5: You go back to the interview that Nick Rawalis, the 599 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 5: defensive coordinator, did with Wolfe earlier in the offseason where 600 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 5: he said, Hey, that's Jonathan Gannon. He's going to walk 601 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 5: up on you and he's gonna let you know right 602 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 5: away straight forward. That was either good or bad. You know, 603 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 5: a lot of times coaches will tell players what they 604 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 5: want to hear instead of what they need to hear, 605 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 5: and Jonathan Gannon is most definitely in the latter category. 606 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 5: He's going to walk up and tell you what you 607 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 5: need to hear. And Nick rollis I remember him sort 608 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 5: of finishing that thought by saying, you know, that's what 609 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 5: I respect Jonathan Gannon for that. He says what's necessary, 610 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 5: not always what's pleasant. One of the bigger questions about 611 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 5: this defense, and it was a question that whether it 612 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 5: was the head coach or Nick rollis asked repeatedly, and 613 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 5: that is Isaiah Simmons. Where is he going to be 614 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 5: on the football field. Well, we got a little bit 615 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 5: of an answer to that when Isaiah addressed the media. 616 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 13: I've been with the defensive back so far, so you know, 617 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 13: it was kind of taking it from there as of now, 618 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 13: So moving forward. I'll be with the defensive backs. So 619 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 13: I got a real good grasp on the playbook. Everybody 620 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 13: in the building's real cool. Everybody knew who We've added players, 621 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 13: staff fives, so I'm doing good. 622 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 3: He has been talking about Isaiah Simmons. He has been 623 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: with the defensive back specifically rob though it's been the 624 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: safety group for the last year plus. The question is, 625 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 3: though we did see him last year, the majority of 626 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 3: his snaps were as a slock corner. Now does that 627 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: stay the same or is he going to be more 628 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 3: of a safety on the back end with Baby the 629 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 3: ability to move up, creep up towards the line of 630 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: scrimmage like we've seen with Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson. 631 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 6: The problem is, in the history of football and the NFL, 632 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 6: I don't recall really seeing a team go out there 633 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 6: with three safeties play after play after play. And I 634 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 6: don't see any scenario where Buddha Baker Jalen Thompson are 635 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 6: coming off the field. So you know, is he truly 636 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 6: a safety? I don't really care what you call him. 637 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 6: You call him a linebacker, call him a safety, call 638 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 6: him call him a slot corner. If he's going to 639 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 6: be playing, and if he's going to be a big 640 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 6: part of this defense, it's going to be in some 641 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 6: type of role where it's it's almost like a nickel defense, 642 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 6: and he's that nickelback. And whether it's a in the 643 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 6: slot and or maybe he sometimes goes deep middle, that's 644 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 6: fine too. But I wouldn't get caught up in what 645 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 6: you call him right now. 646 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, what is the base defense? 647 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 6: We don't know. 648 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 5: They're purposely not answering that question. They're not let us 649 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 5: in on it. We have to wait and see week 650 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 5: one at Washington. What does it mean? Could they run 651 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 5: three safeties out there? Technically because he's in the safety room, 652 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 5: but he's playing more of a will alongside Kaiser White. Absolutely, 653 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 5: we've seen Isaiah Simmons in that role. We've seen him 654 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 5: play center field safety. You've seen him play in the 655 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 5: slot obviously, you've seen him mugg in the A and 656 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 5: B gaps, and you've seen him off the edge. You've 657 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 5: seen him everywhere. What you think is a big part 658 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 5: of the problem. So can they really reduce his description 659 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 5: to one or two things that he can master and 660 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 5: be effective at, because let's face it, we've had it's 661 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 5: sort of like Robin his golf game in his handicap. 662 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 5: We've had the sandbag gir alert from these coaches in 663 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 5: the past. They've sandbagged us before and said he's gonna 664 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 5: play one or two spots, and then guess what. By 665 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 5: the end of month two, He's played a half dozen 666 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 5: different positions. So I'm real curious if they can stick 667 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 5: to what they're saying. And it's a big year for Isaiah, 668 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 5: whether that is with the Arizona Cardinals or just in 669 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 5: the National Football League. It is a contract year for 670 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 5: Isaiah Simmons, and his future within this team or within 671 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 5: this league is going to be up in the air 672 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 5: until we actually see it at some point this season. 673 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 5: And you talk about the defense and what to expect defensively, 674 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 5: Nick Rolis comes in first time defensive coordinator, well Jalen 675 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 5: Thompson on what he thinks this defense might look like. 676 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 4: I like it. It's a little different than last year, 677 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I feel like this year 678 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 4: it's kind of a little bit more. He lets the 679 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 4: players be a little more free out there, you know 680 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 4: what I mean, maybe not so robotic, I feel like, 681 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 4: And I feel like that's gonna lead to more plays 682 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 4: being made. 683 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 3: You brought that up earlier, Paul. Now, you have to 684 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: know your assignment. You have to know the playbook inside 685 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 3: and out in order to play more free But going 686 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 3: back to something we heard from owner Michael Bidwell earlier 687 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 3: in the offseason, his conversation with Dave Patch on the 688 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 3: Day Patch podcast about simplifying things. Now, that conversation was 689 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 3: more about Kyler Murray, but same could be said about 690 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 3: the defense as well, no question, And as far as 691 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 3: Jalen Thompson goes, you guys remember it was fairly early 692 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: in camp last year and there were some hot takes 693 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 3: out there that maybe Jalen Thompson was every bit the 694 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 3: safety as Buddha Baker. 695 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 5: Well last season re established Buddha Baker is one of 696 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 5: the best safeties in the NFL. Now, is that a 697 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 5: slight of Jalen Thompson. Did he have his best year? 698 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 5: Did last year serve him as well in terms of 699 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 5: that scheme? What does this defensive alignment mean for Jalen Thompson. 700 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 5: I'm expecting, silly a bounce back year because I don't 701 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 5: think it was a down year, but I think he 702 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 5: had a better twenty twenty one than he had twenty two. 703 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 5: Jalen Thompson. So if you can elevate his game back 704 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 5: to that level, along with Buddha Baker back in that 705 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 5: in that secondary, there's there's no question I think that 706 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 5: they can exceed expectations on defense because basically no one 707 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 5: on the national media level is giving the Cardinals defense 708 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 5: any respect whatsoever at this point. 709 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 3: And it's that last line of defense in that safety 710 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 3: group because the question marks at corner you're gonna rely 711 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 3: on whether that's Isaiah, Buddha or Jalen. Are all three 712 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 3: of them rob at some point for a lot, at 713 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 3: least early in the season. 714 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 6: Those safeties are everything to this team and to any team. 715 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 6: And you know, Jalen Thompson, I think is an exceptional safety. Hey, 716 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 6: you may have had some some bad games, some off games, 717 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 6: but you know, when you're on a defense and you're 718 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 6: on a team with Buddha Baker and playing the same position, 719 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 6: that's tough to get notoriety, it's tough to get oied. 720 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 6: But Jalen Thompson to me, is one of the better 721 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 6: safeties in this league. 722 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 3: JT a team best seventy eight solo tackles, last year, 723 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 3: so he is very capable of doing whatever is needed 724 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 3: within that defense. But again we all wait and see 725 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: what it might look like week one into week two 726 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 3: and so on and so forth. This is the Arizona 727 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 3: Cardinals Radio Network, thirty. 728 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 2: Twentieth fifteen ten five touchdown Tyler Hurry, you are ridiculous. 729 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 11: It's a language, so he's got to learn to speak 730 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 11: the language and understand the language to make sure that 731 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 11: when he does hit the field, he's not thinking about that, 732 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 11: because if he's thinking about that and performance, the performance 733 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 11: will struggle. Whereas if he can get the language down 734 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 11: and the understanding of the reads and the footwork and 735 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 11: what we're asking me to do, his physical talent's there. 736 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 11: I think we've all seen that, so we got to 737 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 11: be able to let that take over. And I think 738 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 11: he's really embraced that. It's not always the you know, 739 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 11: called the sexy work, but it's really important to go 740 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 11: out there and perform on Sunday, and he do a 741 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 11: great job. 742 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 3: We have seen Kyler Murray on the football field as 743 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 3: a spectator. When do we see Kyler Murray the football 744 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 3: player on the football field. That's the big question. As 745 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 3: you heard Drew Petsing talk about QB one, brand new 746 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, and yeah, K one is putting in the 747 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 3: work in the classroom, going through those mental reps on 748 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 3: the football field, and it's a big question mark going 749 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 3: into this twenty twenty three season. But before we get 750 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 3: to that, need to remind you Cardinal fans that the 751 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 3: Cardinals and State Farm are teaming up and you can 752 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 3: help out donating a backpack field with school supplies for 753 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 3: students in need in the Tempee Elementary School District District. 754 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 3: Support your our virtual back to School drive now through 755 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 3: June twenty third. Go to Aizycardinals dot com slash back 756 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 3: to School. That's Azycardinals dot com slash back the number 757 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 3: two school. All right, Rob, what do we expect from 758 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray here this season? When do we expect Kyler 759 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 3: Murray this season? And then how comfortable are you that 760 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 3: you have a Colt McCoy, a Clayton Tune, David Bloud, 761 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 3: Jeff driscoll four, QB's behind QB one. 762 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, everything that I've heard as far as Kyler Murray 763 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 6: and where he's at, he's ahead of schedule in terms 764 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 6: of just his rehab. But also you know, the Cardinals 765 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 6: want to be careful with him. They want to they 766 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 6: want to take their time and make sure that he's 767 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 6: really ready to go. And and so as far as 768 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 6: when he's back, I have no idea. You'd hope, uh, 769 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 6: first quarter, first half of the season. But but you 770 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 6: got to feel good about having Colt McCoy and and 771 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 6: Paul mentioned it earlier. He's he's the type of quarterback 772 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 6: he's he's got a long history in this league, and 773 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 6: he he picks up offenses quickly in terms of the semantics. 774 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 6: And and you know, once you get past that and 775 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 6: the changes in terms of the nomenclature, a lot of 776 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 6: the plays and the route concepts are similar. So you 777 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 6: know that that will be a safety blanket for this 778 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 6: team offensively, at least in the first portion of the 779 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 6: season until Kyler gets back. But when Kyler gets back 780 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 6: real quick, I think they really want to make sure 781 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 6: that he understands the playbook and he understands where they 782 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 6: want him to go with the ball and to get 783 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 6: the ball off on schedule and on time. To look, 784 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 6: a lot of it is for Kyler's preservation. They they 785 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 6: they value what he can do when the play deconstructs 786 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 6: and when it becomes off schedule, but they want him 787 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 6: to be able to get rid of the ball to 788 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 6: the correct read and on time. 789 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 3: Until we see Kyler Murray on the football field, the 790 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 3: expectation is we will see Colt McCoy under center running 791 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 3: this offense going into his fourteenth season, colts on again 792 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 3: learning a new offense, and if needed, he'll be that 793 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 3: Week one starter. 794 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 14: You know, my number one priority is learning the system right. 795 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 14: It's new, it's different. There's things as a quarterback that 796 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,479 Speaker 14: you got to know that other people don't. So there's 797 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,479 Speaker 14: a lot of thinking going on out on the field 798 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 14: and a lot of like first time I'm seeing plays okay, 799 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 14: like you know, understanding and processing it, and then in 800 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 14: my mind, like I don't know if Kyler's going to 801 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 14: be healthy or not. You know, I think we all 802 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 14: certainly hope that he is, but if he's not, I'm 803 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 14: one hundred percent gonna be ready to go. 804 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 3: And we've seen Cole each of the last two seasons, 805 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 3: Paul step in when Kyler was unable to six starts 806 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 3: over the past two seasons three and three as his starter. 807 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 3: And I don't want to put words in your mouth. 808 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 3: But I'm I'm very comfortable by what I've seen from 809 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 3: Colt's in limited action, and that's what you're looking for 810 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,879 Speaker 3: in a backup quarterback. Someone just kind of hold down 811 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 3: the fort until your staughter returns. 812 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 5: The key is the locker room believes. They believe that 813 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 5: he is capable and he can lead him to victory 814 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 5: and he can be that guy. Here's the thing, Cole 815 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 5: McCoy has run this sort of offense before. Kyler Murray, 816 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 5: to my knowledge, has not. Kyler Murray is really specialized 817 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 5: his entire career, whether it was high school, whether it 818 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 5: was Oklahoma, whether it was Cliff Kingsbury in the NFL, 819 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 5: and in the spread sort of offense, almost exclusively in 820 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 5: the gun. Nobody was in the gun a higher percentage 821 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 5: of time than Kyler Murray a year ago. So how 822 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 5: radically different is this gonna be once he does get back? 823 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 5: You know, Cold has a proven track record and the 824 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 5: knowledge and something to lean on in terms of this 825 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 5: sort of scheme. But how foreign is it going to 826 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 5: be to Kyler Murray? And what's he going to look 827 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 5: like once he does get healthy? 828 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 3: This offense is huddling. They're under center talking about that 829 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,439 Speaker 3: quarterback position. You also had David Blough, who returns Jeff 830 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 3: Driscoll kind of an outsider free agent edition in your 831 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 3: draft pick in the fifth round, Clayton Tune. Everyone's excited 832 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 3: about him, probably no more so than the gentleman to 833 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 3: my ride in Paul Calvis was anxious to start that controversy. 834 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 3: Here at the end of June, let's hear from Clayton 835 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 3: on how he is adjusting to life in the NFL. 836 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 15: I've worked really hard, really most my life to play 837 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 15: this position at a high level, and you know, put 838 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 15: in a lot of work in the off season with 839 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 15: you know, my throwing mechanics, footwork, body, all that type 840 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 15: of stuff. So you know, I pride myself on being 841 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 15: able to put the ball where I want it. 842 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 3: The ninth quarterback drafted in twenty twenty three. And I 843 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 3: know there is a segment of that fan base rob 844 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 3: that is anxious to see Clayton Tune on the football field, 845 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 3: and I think we will in preseason action. But I 846 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 3: don't know if I would rush him out there and 847 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 3: supplants a Colt McCoy in the event that Kyler is 848 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 3: not ready. 849 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 6: No, that's not going to happen. Colt McCoy is has 850 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 6: demonstrated in the past couple of years really his ability 851 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 6: to understand the offense and to execute it. And as 852 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 6: Paul said, he's got the belief of the locker room. 853 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 6: So hey, look, Clayton Tune, you know, he's going to 854 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 6: have an opportunity obviously in training camp, and that's that's 855 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 6: when guys like that that are drafted in the fifth, sixth, 856 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 6: seventh rounds. So that's the opportunity for those guys to 857 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 6: really showcase what they can do, whether it's going to 858 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 6: be on this team, whether it's going to be you know, 859 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 6: on a practice squad or somewhere else. You know, putting 860 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 6: things on tape and getting your resume ready in terms 861 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 6: of what you can do is vital and it's important. 862 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,760 Speaker 6: And Clayton Tune is no different. 863 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 5: According to Jonathan again, and he's already checked two big boxes. 864 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 5: Command and confidence. In the words of the head coach, 865 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 5: he's been able to command the offense so far. 866 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 7: Now. 867 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 5: It hasn't been mistake free. There have been issues and 868 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 5: we've seen it out there and Cole McCoy has talked 869 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 5: about all the quarterbacks have committed mistakes trying to execute things, 870 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 5: but just the confidence. We know what he said when 871 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 5: he was drafted about I'm the best QB in this class. 872 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 5: But you know he went on to say, I'm a 873 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 5: natural leader. People follow me. I elevate everyone around me. 874 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 5: People see the work I put in. He's known for 875 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 5: being a better runner with more athleticism than he's given 876 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 5: credit for. You have some really gaudy rushing stats and 877 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 5: rushing touchdowns. In college. She had the highest on target 878 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 5: percentage in all of college football, according to Pro Football Focused. 879 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 5: So if you're telling me he has confidence and he's 880 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 5: accurate and he's actually a little bit mobile, let's see 881 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 5: it in the preseason once again, gentlemen. It gets us 882 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 5: through the preseason. 883 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 3: And that's the thing, rob because that preseason, how much 884 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 3: can you do and just running around and then the 885 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 3: ramps up for preseason. There's a bigger ramp up to 886 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 3: regular season. 887 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 6: Action, you know, And I know preseason is preseason and 888 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 6: Kyler Murray, if he could have played, probably wouldn't have 889 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 6: played a lot. But you want to have those reps, 890 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 6: those game time reps to learn a new offense, and 891 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,839 Speaker 6: Kyler is not going to have the benefit of that. 892 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 6: So that's going to be another little hurdle for him, 893 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 6: but these other guys will will learn it and get 894 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 6: it going as well. 895 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 3: Two home preseason games and in the regular season. Asycardinals 896 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 3: dot Com slash buy tickets to secure your seats today 897 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,760 Speaker 3: special thanks behind the scenes our executive producer Jim Molmindro 898 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 3: technical director Lauren Koble for Rob Frederickson, Paul Calvic. I'm 899 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 3: Craig real Lou. 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