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Speaker 2: Davis Todame, joined by Mia Wong, James Stout, and Robert Evans.
Speaker 2: This episode, we are covering the week of November fifth
Speaker 2: to November thirteenth.
Speaker 3: That's how I feel about the week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how you feel.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: The shutdown is now over, the longest shutdown in US history.
Speaker 2: Last weekend, eight Democratic senators caved on the shutdown, approving
Speaker 2: a deal to reopen the government without extending the existing
Speaker 2: Obamacare subsidies, gaining only a promise to have a Senate
Speaker 2: floor vote on healthcare tax credits sometime in December, with
Speaker 2: no indication given that this vote would pass the Chamber
Speaker 2: and no commitment from Speaker Mike Johnson that he would
Speaker 2: hold a vote in the House. None of the Democratic
Speaker 2: senators that sided with the Republicans are up for reelection
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that suggests pretty clearly that this
Speaker 5: was orchestrated in stage by the Democratic Party as a whole.
Speaker 5: You don't have Oh, we picked eight specific people you
Speaker 5: can't vote against in the next cycle. Yeah that Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was very clearly just stage managing.
Speaker 2: Specifically with the Schumer being somewhat in charge of the Senate,
Speaker 2: that Democrats, who likely would have been the person orchestrating this,
Speaker 2: who himself did not vote for this deal, was able
Speaker 2: to personally vote against it despite likely being the one
Speaker 2: orchestrating this entire deal. Yeah, two of the senators who
Speaker 2: signed on are retiring at the end of their term.
Speaker 2: But even if we can't get health care through this
Speaker 2: shutdown bill, you know what these Democrats.
Speaker 4: Did able to squeeze it in.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if the Democrats squeze did in there,
Speaker 2: but it is in there. That's a Delta eight hemp
Speaker 2: THHC band, which is inclusive, horrible in the Senate funding bill,
Speaker 2: absolutely awfully.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course they did.
Speaker 3: A boy hattie, and the hemp industry has gotten angry
Speaker 3: about this. They're they're planning to fight it in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty six. I guess we'll all see because it takes
Speaker 3: a while to take effect. But yeah, that is there's
Speaker 3: a lot of hemp farms in Kentucky that are pissed
Speaker 3: off right now.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: So we can't get healthcare, but at least we also
Speaker 2: can't get HEMP, THHC. So what if there wasn't bread
Speaker 2: or circuses?
Speaker 5: What would happen? Then?
Speaker 1: Wow, we would vote for the Democrats mere because they
Speaker 1: have the least bad option. I think that's how that
Speaker 1: got It's right. I've been on Blue Sky a few
Speaker 1: times this week. I think I've got it pretty drilled in.
Speaker 2: Catherine Cortes Maestro of Nevada, Dick Derman of Illinois, John
Speaker 2: Fetterman of Pennsylvania, maying Asan of New Hampshire, Tim Kaine
Speaker 2: of Virginia, Angus King of Maine. No King's protest member
Speaker 2: just dropped. Catherine Cortez Mosto of Nevada, and Jean Shaheen
Speaker 2: of New Hampshire speaking of the Senate and the Oversight Committee,
Speaker 2: this whole Jeffrey Epstein, things doesn't seem to be going away,
Speaker 2: does it?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 3: Like you, I was a skeptic about like, could there
Speaker 3: be anything in there that's actually gonna hurt Trump if
Speaker 3: he hasn't been hurt so far by everything that is
Speaker 3: out there? And I don't know. I guess I'm still
Speaker 3: a little bit of a skeptic, but it's increasingly hard
Speaker 3: to be because like, how much? How could it be
Speaker 3: worse than this?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something that isn't this how to be worse.
Speaker 3: Than Donald Trump was at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion and walked
Speaker 3: into a glass door because he was so busy oggling children.
Speaker 1: The fact that this is what they released to distract
Speaker 1: you from the stuff they don't want to release, well
Speaker 1: is one of the Democrats?
Speaker 2: Oh to be fair, well both This was the emails
Speaker 2: they were able to subpoena from Jeffrey Epstein's estate as
Speaker 2: a part of the Oversight Investigation into the federal government's
Speaker 2: investigation of the Epstein files. Yesterday, the Oversec Committee released
Speaker 2: this batch of files related to the Epstein investigation, mostly
Speaker 2: of note a series of emails from about twenty eleven
Speaker 2: to twenty nineteen, including one from Epstein written to Maxwell
Speaker 2: from twenty eleven quote, I want you to realize that
Speaker 2: the dog that hasn't barked is Trump. Victim redacted named
Speaker 2: victim spent hours at my house with him. He has
Speaker 2: never once been mentioned, police chief, etc. I'm seventy five
Speaker 2: percent there. In a short email, exchange from December twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: an unknown individual sent Jeffrey Epstein this message.
Speaker 4: Quote, it will all blow over.
Speaker 2: They're really just trying to take down Trump and doing
Speaker 2: whatever they can to do that, with Epstein replying yes, thix, thanks,
Speaker 2: it's wild because I am the one able to take
Speaker 2: him down. Whatever could he mean by that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows.
Speaker 3: There's no way to tell. There's absolutely no way to tell.
Speaker 1: If you are currently in high school English class and
Speaker 1: people tell you will not be able to make billions
Speaker 1: of dollars if you are unable to use grammar, punctuational
Speaker 1: capital letters correctly. That that appears not to have been
Speaker 1: an impediment to Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein's typing style is fascinating.
Speaker 5: It's awful.
Speaker 1: Well, it's extremely distinctive, which I suppose is a valuable
Speaker 1: thing in itself.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's fascinating, But I mean, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of different emails of note. A twenty nineteen email
Speaker 2: from Epstein to Michael Wolfe quote Victim marl Argo redacted.
Speaker 2: Trump said he asked me to resign, never a member ever.
Speaker 2: Of course he knew about the girls, as he asked
Speaker 2: Galaine to stop unquote.
Speaker 5: Which, by the way, the way that I've been I've
Speaker 5: been seeing that quote passed around is just that he
Speaker 5: knew about the girl's part, which makes it a little
Speaker 5: bit technically ambiguous as to what he's talking about. But
Speaker 5: the second part being as he asked just Lane to stop, Oh,
Speaker 5: that's as blatant as he could possibly be. Right, what
Speaker 5: Emste's saying there was really clearer.
Speaker 2: The main thing that's clear from this exchange is, at
Speaker 2: the very least, the tend to which Trump was very
Speaker 2: aware of Epstein's activities.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, in which everyone was not just fucking
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, but like the Obama Whitehouse's chief legal counsel
Speaker 3: from twenty eleven twenty fourteen, right, who he messaged with
Speaker 3: regularly and seems to have been flirting with him. Right,
Speaker 3: she seems to have been into him. And they're all
Speaker 3: just kind of casually or he is with them casually
Speaker 3: joking about like being a pedophile.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, there's emails from Steve Bannon here, who he's
Speaker 5: just chatting with, like emails, Yeah, appear keel at one point.
Speaker 2: The Steve benn In exchange is from twenty nineteen from
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein talking about a recent state visit message Prince
Speaker 2: Andrew and Trump today too funny. Another reply from Epstein
Speaker 2: recall Prince Andrew's accuser came out of mar A Lago
Speaker 2: and response from Bannon, can't believe nobody's making you the
Speaker 2: connective issue Jesus Christ dwild wildly blatant stuff. In exchange
Speaker 2: from twenty fifteen from Michael Wolf to Jeffrey Epstein, I
Speaker 2: hear CNN is planning to ask Trump tonight about his
Speaker 2: relationship with you, either on air or in scrum. Afterwards,
Speaker 2: Epstein replied, if you were able to craft an answer
Speaker 2: for him, what do you think it should be. Wolf
Speaker 2: responded to that quote, I think you should let him
Speaker 2: hang himself. If he says he hasn't been on the
Speaker 2: plane or to the house, then that gives you a
Speaker 2: valuable pr and political currency. You can hang him in
Speaker 2: a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you,
Speaker 2: or if it really looks like he could win, you
Speaker 2: could save him generating a debt. Of course, it is
Speaker 2: possible that when asked, he'll say, Jeffery is a great
Speaker 2: guy and has gotten a raw deal. It is a
Speaker 2: victim of political correctness, which is to be outlawed in
Speaker 2: a Trump regime.
Speaker 1: Managine putting that in writing to a Gmail address.
Speaker 4: Gmail is a fascinating choice by FTV.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah yeah. Also the fact that every goddamn
Speaker 3: one of these messages ends with synth on my iPad
Speaker 3: is it's just constantly amusing, said to my h They're
Speaker 3: always like two extra spaces between sentences, Like you can
Speaker 3: tell they're old people typing on iPads a lot of
Speaker 3: the time with their fucking clumsy ass fingers. Yeah, beautiful,
Speaker 3: It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Tech si is huge.
Speaker 2: Some really disturbing exchanges from Epstein and a man named
Speaker 2: Lendon Thomas Junior, with Epstein saying would you like a
Speaker 2: photo of Donald and girls in bikinis in my kitchen?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 2: Bro, Hawaiian tropical girl Lauren Potrella. Epstein then sent a
Speaker 2: link displaying an image of a woman quote my twenty
Speaker 2: year old girlfriend in ninety three that after two years
Speaker 2: I gave to Donald unquote. One thing I want to
Speaker 2: note here is that Thomas Junior, yeah, baby, long long
Speaker 2: time journalist at the New York Times, and she's just
Speaker 2: handed this financial journalist.
Speaker 3: Yes, so he couldn't do anything with it. He could
Speaker 3: do nothing with it. Obviously, he's a financial journalist. He
Speaker 3: can't report on what financier Jeffrey Epstein tells him about
Speaker 3: Donald Trump walking into a glass door because he was
Speaker 3: oggling and children at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion. That's a thing
Speaker 3: that Jeffrey joked about to him, and The New York
Speaker 3: Times never printed. Yeah, in twenty sixteen they had this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, there's a tendency and I understand why to
Speaker 5: get sort of burned out on this right to be like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, it's more Epstein news. But we should
Speaker 5: be furious about this. Yeah, this was you know what
Speaker 5: we have here? And this isn't even the stuff they're
Speaker 5: trying to hide, right, This isn't the Epstein files. This
Speaker 5: is just the emails that the Oversight Committe has been
Speaker 5: able to get right, and it suggests very plainly that
Speaker 5: we are ruled by a group of pedophiles. And I
Speaker 5: refuse to call them a cabal, because cabal implies that
Speaker 5: they work in the shadows. They were not. The entire
Speaker 5: ruling class knew this was going on openly.
Speaker 4: By joking about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't care. Yeah, they think it's funny.
Speaker 2: There's this exchange from twenty seventeen between Jeffrey and an
Speaker 2: unknown individual where Jeffrey says, you are welcome at my
Speaker 2: house always and more private. The prisoner's bonds very well.
Speaker 2: Just send me the address again and the code to
Speaker 2: the door so I can get to the second floor
Speaker 2: and send me the day and time. Thanks, Jeffrey said
Speaker 2: ten pm. Should I bring special cake from New York?
Speaker 2: The unknown individual responded yes, and then once they arrived,
Speaker 2: they sent the message quote I'm at the door, but
Speaker 2: I will wait for my time. I don't want to
Speaker 2: come early to find Trump in your house to laughing emojis,
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen.
Speaker 5: Christ.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And the reason they're doing this, right, the reason they're
Speaker 5: they're so blatant about this reason. They all think it's
Speaker 5: so funny. The reason they're just doing this over completely
Speaker 5: unencrypted email in a way that like someone planning a
Speaker 5: completely legal protest where you stand outside of a building
Speaker 5: with signs right, would not plan it like this. So
Speaker 5: the reason they're doing this is that these people and
Speaker 5: men like them have been ruling this country for five
Speaker 5: hundred years. In an uninterrupted line from Columbus's fucking crew
Speaker 5: through on Hispaniola through Jefferson and Sally Hemming's like to
Speaker 5: Epstein is an uninterrupted mine. They think that they are
Speaker 5: completely invincible and that no one will ever challenge them,
Speaker 5: And you know, maybe maybe they're fucking right. For all
Speaker 5: of the sort of moaning and complaining about woke censorship
Speaker 5: and me too and cancel culture, these people never shot
Speaker 5: the fuck up ever at any point. All of these
Speaker 5: people are running around to their fucking Epstein conferences taking
Speaker 5: a bunch of money to talk about eugenics.
Speaker 3: Well, and that's I mean, there's there's some fun stuff
Speaker 3: about that in here too, because he was emailing with
Speaker 3: Lawrence Krauss less eugenics and more hatred of women where
Speaker 3: not too like, there were very funny emails where Kraus
Speaker 3: was being like, you know, I'd made a comment of
Speaker 3: a speech that half of all the IQ in the
Speaker 3: world comes from women, but they're more than half the population.
Speaker 3: Ha like a lot of just like casual. It's it's
Speaker 3: a really interesting insight into how people at kind of
Speaker 3: the highest levels of finance and government and just wealth
Speaker 3: in general and in media communicated with each other during
Speaker 3: this period of time. I'm sure it's different now. Because
Speaker 3: people are even less good at writing. But yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a useful. It's a snapshot that we don't get anywhere
Speaker 3: else of like this chunk of the I mean talking
Speaker 3: about that fucker at the New York Times, who, by
Speaker 3: the way, was shitcan in twenty nineteen for soliciting donations
Speaker 3: from Jeffrey Epstein and not informing them of his personal relationship.
Speaker 3: But again, the Times never published anything based on their conversations.
Speaker 3: It's the same group of people who have been telling
Speaker 3: us every issue that like it might changentally be connected to,
Speaker 3: like transitioning is newsworthy, and it's incredibly newsworthy if this
Speaker 3: like official at a college might have plagiarized once in
Speaker 3: their childhood or in their youth. But it's not newsworthy
Speaker 3: at all to talk about the possible future president walking
Speaker 3: face first and do a glass door because he's staring
Speaker 3: at naked children in a pedophiles mansion.
Speaker 5: This is the period. This is the period where they
Speaker 5: were they were running stories about the food at Grenell College. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and you can and you know, and there's another I
Speaker 5: think part of this too, where if if you look
Speaker 5: through these things, you can find these people all complaining
Speaker 5: about me too. Right, yeah, you can. You can find
Speaker 5: these people all doing their sort of like oh, these
Speaker 5: are all those same people who do all of the
Speaker 5: like oh, like we're the bold truth tellers, blah blah blah,
Speaker 5: we're being censored by like cancer culture. I want to
Speaker 5: take a stab at the question that these that you're
Speaker 5: actually not allowed to ask, you know. And what I
Speaker 5: say you're not allowed to ask is these people don't
Speaker 5: want you to ask. All the fucking hedge fund manage,
Speaker 5: the CEOs, all the senators, all the presidents, every one
Speaker 5: of these fucking files does not want you to ask
Speaker 5: a simple question. Why do we have a ruling class?
Speaker 5: Like we gave them five hundred years of running this
Speaker 5: continent and do you know what they produced again? Five
Speaker 5: hundred years of uninterrupted pedophiles. Right, we are on we
Speaker 5: are on year five hundred of this from like Colabus
Speaker 5: Jefferson to right, So why do we have this?
Speaker 3: That's just not how people people. No one's going to
Speaker 3: a store or to the politics store, or heading out
Speaker 3: to vote and voting for another year of the pedophile
Speaker 3: ruling class. People don't really think. People don't tend to
Speaker 3: think about it that way and in part they don't
Speaker 3: because the ruling strata of the United States has not
Speaker 3: portrayed itself in the same unbroken way, right, Like it
Speaker 3: very much makes an effort not to in public. And
Speaker 3: there's an extent to which it is. It's certainly different
Speaker 3: than like the old aristocracy of the British and the
Speaker 3: landed gentry that ruled the British Empire. It's not exactly
Speaker 3: the same, but it is like the same kind of
Speaker 3: people and in a lot of cases the same families
Speaker 3: that continue to control large amounts of wealth and inherent
Speaker 3: political power. I mean, there's another fucking Kennedy who seems
Speaker 3: like a nice kid getting into politics just as we speak, right,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I feel like we'll have
Speaker 3: a dedicated an episode on more of the Epstein stuff,
Speaker 3: like and there's an extent to which I keep thinking
Speaker 3: about that, like bitten community, where it's like no one's
Speaker 3: on the other side of this issue that's listening to
Speaker 3: this podcast. Everybody's very angry about the pedophilia. Everybody's very
Speaker 3: angry about all of this stuff, and I have mostly
Speaker 3: been interpreting it through just like laughing over the last
Speaker 3: day or two, which is bad because it's like really
Speaker 3: bad stuff. You shouldn't just do that at it. But
Speaker 3: like what else what other reactions? Like you can pick
Speaker 3: and choose whatever you do. I think to your point, Mia,
Speaker 3: however you react to this is not going to change anything, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: like so far it hasn't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, but I mean, okay, I don't think that's
Speaker 5: completely true. You can watch how just like pissed off
Speaker 5: and scared these people were about like about me too, right,
Speaker 5: and like you can you can go listen to bann
Speaker 5: It a couple of weeks ago talking about how if
Speaker 5: they lose the election, like we're all going to prison. Yeah, right,
Speaker 5: like these people are like concerned about even like me too,
Speaker 5: which was a fairly milk like it wasn't like a
Speaker 5: particularly radical feminist movement right now, and these people were
Speaker 5: losing their fucking minds about it. And you know, like
Speaker 5: we we have the potential to organize feminist movements that
Speaker 5: can actually do things about this shit, Like we we
Speaker 5: are capable of building new feminist movements. We did one
Speaker 5: not that long ago that was a big part of
Speaker 5: this administration collapsing the first time, and we can do
Speaker 5: it again.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying there's no point in fighting them. I'm
Speaker 3: just saying, like your reaction the moment to the Epstein
Speaker 3: leagues doesn't matter as much as is this going to
Speaker 3: Is this going to cause any kind of like long
Speaker 3: term resistance to the administration? Is this going to And
Speaker 3: maybe it will, But like I guess the thing that
Speaker 3: I'm curious about is like what what is what are
Speaker 3: what are we doing to try and make this matter? Right,
Speaker 3: because like that's that's where I am.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But the answer to the question is this going
Speaker 5: to matter? Is also, don't think that every single one
Speaker 5: of us decides, right, because if we all just do nothing,
Speaker 5: then yeah, nothing will happen. Right. If we go mobilize
Speaker 5: and we go do things to resist these people, we
Speaker 5: intensify the things we're already doing. If we start doing
Speaker 5: new things, if we start doing new sort of feminist insertioncies, right,
Speaker 5: then things can change. But if we don't, they're not
Speaker 5: going to and we're just going to have another five
Speaker 5: hundred years with these pedophiles ruling everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that it's probably more a
Speaker 3: matter of like this is likely to shift more people
Speaker 3: away from the GOP, at least in the immediate future.
Speaker 3: I don't think in the long term, I don't know
Speaker 3: that you don't build a coalition off of this, because
Speaker 3: the dims certainly aren't trying to you at least get
Speaker 3: this like wider awareness of where the real problem was.
Speaker 3: But I just don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be utilized electorally by some
Speaker 2: Republicans to eventually decouple the party from Trump. Yeah, after
Speaker 2: this becomes more and more evident and they're looking for
Speaker 2: a way to get themselves out of becoming the Trump Party,
Speaker 2: and turning on him specifically through this issue will probably
Speaker 2: be one of the methods in which they do that.
Speaker 2: And you see that with some with some people like
Speaker 2: even like Margor Taylor Green and Lauren Bobert.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rod Dreer is writing about some stuff adjacent to this, Right,
Speaker 3: These are the guys who think Vance needs to lead
Speaker 3: the party away from Trump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and are already viewing Trump as a as
Speaker 2: a sort of lame duck presidency in insomuch is that
Speaker 2: he's kind of failed to do a whole bunch of stuff,
Speaker 2: especially on the economy, in the past year. The midterms
Speaker 2: are about to get up and running. That's gonna take
Speaker 2: up a whole bunch of energy that everyone expects the
Speaker 2: Dems to do very well in the midterms and then
Speaker 2: prevent the Trump administration in the final two years from
Speaker 2: getting much of anything done through blocking things in Congress.
Speaker 2: And that's what a lot of people on the far
Speaker 2: right are like taking this situation as as basically January
Speaker 2: to now was the second Trump administration. This is the
Speaker 2: most said they're going to get done, and now it's
Speaker 2: kind of all downhill from here. Yeah, and they're looking
Speaker 2: far beyond Trump now.
Speaker 1: Yes, I want to tack back to the Times real
Speaker 1: quickly before we move past this. Like garretson, some of
Speaker 1: those emails you read, if I'm not mistaken, were like
Speaker 1: in December of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, the twenty eighteen ones are Epstein saying I
Speaker 2: am the one able to take him down.
Speaker 4: That one's from twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So let's talk about I mean, the week
Speaker 1: before the midterms and all week after midterms in terms
Speaker 1: of Times front page stories. Right the week before the
Speaker 1: midterms twenty eighteen, the Times ran twelve stories on the
Speaker 1: quote unquote migrant caravan on the front page round twenty fourth.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember that right the week after it
Speaker 1: ran five, the migrant caravan continued to grow as more
Speaker 1: people are I was physically present in Tijuana right as
Speaker 1: the caravan was arriving, and I continued to be present
Speaker 1: for the rest of that year. The caravan conteaum to grow,
Speaker 1: and what people continued to come. Right, this is and
Speaker 1: a choice was made not to cover the Epstein stuff
Speaker 1: that Roberts spoke about. Right. A choice was also made
Speaker 1: at that time to really like this caravan was not huge.
Speaker 1: It was large, but it wasn't a hugely remarkable number
Speaker 1: of migrants, and it occupied twelve front page stories during
Speaker 1: that one week before the election. Right. I don't know
Speaker 1: how else I can say this, Like they're literally saying,
Speaker 1: look over there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and I guess that's part of my fear
Speaker 3: gear is I think that is accurate as to how
Speaker 3: things are going to play out, and that the dims
Speaker 3: will have a good midterm and probably pretty good results
Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty. That's less clear to me, you know,
Speaker 3: because in part if the DIM's have a really good
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six and then things continue to get worse,
Speaker 3: maybe we'll blame the party. I don't know. Who's going
Speaker 3: to show up on the you know, after Trump that
Speaker 3: that's all a little unclear. But what worries me is
Speaker 3: that in the mix of all that we're going to
Speaker 3: get away from and I think this is almost inevitable,
Speaker 3: actual accountability for these people, Like I don't foresee they're
Speaker 3: being strong punished. I foresee things moving forward, possibly in
Speaker 3: a way where they get quite a bit better, but
Speaker 3: not where I don't see the likelihood of these people
Speaker 3: getting punished. And I don't know that somebody running in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight on a platform of we're going to
Speaker 3: hang these people in the street would win, But I
Speaker 3: think it's worth a shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty far off, I really know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much this will still be relevant
Speaker 2: by then. I mean after Mike John's for seven weeks
Speaker 2: delayed the swearing in of Arizona representative at Elitea Grihalva.
Speaker 2: She was finally sworn in yesterday on Wednesday and became
Speaker 2: the two hundred and eighteenth required signature on the discharge
Speaker 2: petition to force a floor vote for the full release
Speaker 2: of the Epstein files. Johnson says this vote will happen
Speaker 2: next week. During this process. Trump held an emergency meeting
Speaker 2: in the Situation Room with Pam Bondie, Todd Blanche, and
Speaker 2: Cash Bettel to convince Lauren Bobert to take her name
Speaker 2: off the petition, which would then result in it not
Speaker 2: being complete and forcing the vote. They are certainly in
Speaker 2: a panic over this. The whole White House team is.
Speaker 2: This morning Thursday, Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt put out an
Speaker 2: amazing post on X the Everything app quote. If not
Speaker 2: for the Jeffrey Epstein story, CNN would be forced talk
Speaker 2: about how Chuck Shue we're in. The Democrats got shellacked
Speaker 2: by President Trump and Republicans in the government shut down fight.
Speaker 2: It's clear this there's another Democrat and mainstream media hoax
Speaker 2: fueled by fake outrage distract when the President's wins, Republicans
Speaker 2: don't be fooled. President Trump will remain focused on making
Speaker 2: America affordable again if not for the Jeffrey Epsteeth story.
Speaker 2: If not, aren't we all saying that if the President
Speaker 2: wasn't a pedophile, then everyone would love him.
Speaker 3: If not for the child molestation, he'd be allowed to
Speaker 3: live in this neighborhood.
Speaker 4: I want to mention the Macon Kelly thing.
Speaker 2: In terms of in terms of Republicans reacting to this
Speaker 2: and trying to find a way to sort through. And
Speaker 2: some of them are manufacturing like consent, like making Kelly here,
Speaker 2: and others I think are quite ready to just throw
Speaker 2: Trump to the wolves.
Speaker 5: Frankly, Yeah, there's a so Megan Kelly, I'm not going
Speaker 5: to play the clip from you all because having to
Speaker 5: listen to Making Kelly's.
Speaker 4: I've listened to four four hours to make and Kelly
Speaker 4: this week.
Speaker 5: Miya, Yeah, let's no more. But she has this whole
Speaker 5: line about how she knows someone who's close to the
Speaker 5: case and has all the details and that person thinks that, Yeah,
Speaker 5: her exact quote is, I think there's a difference, a
Speaker 5: difference between a fifteen year old and a five year old.
Speaker 5: I mean she literally is talking about how, oh he
Speaker 5: was into the he wasn't into four or five year olds.
Speaker 5: He's talking about She says this and I quote barely
Speaker 5: legal types, and then she says fourteen or fifteen, which.
Speaker 4: No legal Just pause, pause right.
Speaker 5: There, fourteen fifteen not legal. I think there was a
Speaker 5: conversation to be had about descent to which the barely
Speaker 5: legal like just turned eighteen. Shit is to a large
Speaker 5: extent of product of like American pedophile culture and misogyny.
Speaker 5: But like, those are fourteen and fifteen year olds, and
Speaker 5: this is the like, you know, this, this is the
Speaker 5: defense of these people are are dragging out for this,
Speaker 5: which is that oh well he wasn't like literal like
Speaker 5: like five year olds. So actually it's they're like they're
Speaker 5: they're they're they're they're doing the libertarian thing. It's like,
Speaker 5: isn't the be a file or whatever? The fuck?
Speaker 2: I think a lot of this is also the result
Speaker 2: of like the QAnon idea that like they're traffic four
Speaker 2: year olds and like, no, this is mostly like really
Speaker 2: young teenagers. That's mostly what these guys are into and
Speaker 2: making Kelly specifically was talking about Epstein.
Speaker 3: Is seven really young. They're six fifteen to seventeen year
Speaker 3: old girls. Right. That's the part of the problem is
Speaker 3: that a huge number of not just men, but largely
Speaker 3: men in this country don't see fifteen to seventeen year
Speaker 3: old girls as children.
Speaker 5: Which they are. And yeah, that's really a pro Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's just struggling, just incredible structural misogyny, that's just yeah,
Speaker 5: And so that's what they're sort of trying to bake
Speaker 5: all of this stuff as now, and I guess we'll
Speaker 5: see whether it works or not, just because Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think this line from Megan Kelly is going to
Speaker 2: be very successful on a large scale of but phobophelia.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's I don't think it's gonna work.
Speaker 2: I I her motivations for this are I'm sure not great.
Speaker 3: Now, you don't know that, Garrison, and I think.
Speaker 2: It's on She is pulling from this like a QAnon
Speaker 2: brain idea, right, that these are a whole bunch of
Speaker 2: like basically infants.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, what else do you want to talk about?
Speaker 3: Let's talk about January sixth and the terrorisms.
Speaker 4: Sure, I love no either of those things.
Speaker 3: I Garrison, you love terrorism.
Speaker 2: I had a fun day, No, honestly, I had a
Speaker 2: great January sixth.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 4: That was a really fun morning for me.
Speaker 3: That was a hoot of a day. Boy, howdie when
Speaker 3: they breached the capital doors? Great time? Well windows first,
Speaker 3: but yeah.
Speaker 4: I think you mean when the FBI breached the capital
Speaker 4: doors for sure.
Speaker 3: Yes, So this all takes me to the sub stack
Speaker 3: of a guy named Rod Dreyer. Rod is he wouldn't
Speaker 3: call himself a fascist. But if you ever bring up
Speaker 3: is this specific fascist from history bad, he'd say, well,
Speaker 3: not compared to the communists they stopped, right, that's the
Speaker 3: kind of conservative if that Rod is he's basically friends
Speaker 3: with He's basically friends with Victor or Bid. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Didn't he just write a piece called our women ruining
Speaker 5: the workplace?
Speaker 3: He's written several like that, ye, because think he's just
Speaker 3: like the piece I'm talking about was ago one he
Speaker 3: came out with on November tenth called what I Saw
Speaker 3: on Herd in Washington, and he was at a meeting
Speaker 3: with President Vice President James Darryl Vance, not Dol. Yeah,
Speaker 3: James Dolan Vance. That's a good James Dolan. You're a
Speaker 3: real New Yorker. Now, Garet, are you pissed about the
Speaker 3: Knicks permanently?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 4: Basketball's too masculine for me.
Speaker 3: So he came out with this article about this this
Speaker 3: meeting that that Vance had with Victor Orbon and some
Speaker 3: other Republican luminaries. And for a little bit of context,
Speaker 3: Dreyer is again, you wouldn't call him an anti Trumper.
Speaker 3: You'd call him a guy who thinks that Trump is
Speaker 3: going to doom the right and doom the right to
Speaker 3: fascism unless jd Vance can save them. He actually has
Speaker 3: a recent His most recent column is basically jd Vance
Speaker 3: is the only person who can save the right wing
Speaker 3: from fascism. And here's a weird dude who like reads
Speaker 3: a lot of Hannah a Rent but absolutely does not
Speaker 3: understand her. But this article of his based on this
Speaker 3: meeting is useful for a couple a couple of reasons.
Speaker 3: One that I'm sure Gary and I will talk about
Speaker 3: more detail later is Dreyer estimates in here that thirty
Speaker 3: to forty percent of these zoomers who are working for
Speaker 3: the Republican Party in DC are gropers aka fans of Holocaust.
Speaker 3: And I are and true true? Yeah? Is that? What
Speaker 3: is that what eugen z kids are saying for? Truth? Garrison? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's okay, okay, that's truth. I can't keep it a
Speaker 3: great deep track of that's shit anymore?
Speaker 1: Truth nuke Great, Now.
Speaker 3: That makes sense, Duke.
Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, they're all gropers, or at least forty percent are.
Speaker 3: Thirty thirty forty percent? And I actually eat number one
Speaker 3: he Dreyer. He's not someone that I I think just
Speaker 3: makes up nonsense. I think he's like wrong because his
Speaker 3: brain is bad. But I I he provides some backup,
Speaker 3: including interviews and conversations he had for this, and this
Speaker 3: is consistent with other information coming out of the Beltwegh.
Speaker 3: I think he's probably pretty close to the accurate number here, right,
Speaker 3: thirty to forty percent seems believable. Gare, I think you're
Speaker 3: more or less in the same area there.
Speaker 1: Garrison is thirty Toro Bay.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's yes, that's that's what I meant, James, thank
Speaker 3: you for the most charitable reading of my sentence there. Now,
Speaker 3: the thing that I thought was the other thing that
Speaker 3: I thought was interesting from this article is because he's
Speaker 3: he's trying to talk about why the media, which he
Speaker 3: sees as an inherently left wing organization, even though we
Speaker 3: just talked about all of the carrying water for Jeffrey
Speaker 3: Epstein while attacking trans people, shit they.
Speaker 2: Did, it's it's it's it's a it's a right wing
Speaker 2: slash liberal organization.
Speaker 3: I would would, yeah, you have to, you have to
Speaker 3: get over some of his aspects of phrasing. But he's
Speaker 3: talking about why. One of some of the reasons why
Speaker 3: he thinks that the institutions in our society, like Zoomers
Speaker 3: do not trust them. And this is where I think
Speaker 3: he's on the money, because I think that the reason
Speaker 3: why so many gen Z Republicans, like Republican staffers, ares
Speaker 3: is what he gets at, which is that they're having
Speaker 3: the same problem as the rest of gen Z. They're
Speaker 3: just approaching it from a fascist standpoint. But they all
Speaker 3: are starting from the same point, which is I'm fucked.
Speaker 3: My generation is fucked. Yeah, there's no jobs, I'm not
Speaker 3: going to own a house. The climate is screwed. Like
Speaker 3: they're blaming the Jews for it, but they're they're starting
Speaker 3: at the same place.
Speaker 2: It's school shooter politics, right, school shooter politics. Yes, some
Speaker 2: people understand this and they decide to do a school shooting.
Speaker 2: These guys decide to get jobs in Washington. Yes, but
Speaker 2: it's the same psychea behind the mechanism.
Speaker 3: Exactly right. And I'm going to read a quote from
Speaker 3: Drer's article and then we'll move past him to the
Speaker 3: primary thing I wanted to talk about here, and this
Speaker 3: is him talking about, you know, why these Zoomers don't
Speaker 3: trust the system and want to destroy everything the institutions
Speaker 3: of our society as they see it have lied and
Speaker 3: light and light and still lie. They still lie in
Speaker 3: many ways about race, refusing to be honest about black crime.
Speaker 3: They lie about COVID, They lied about males and females,
Speaker 3: and they force the insanity of gender ideology on us.
Speaker 3: All the military light about a rock. The university is
Speaker 3: in bra just the military, just the military rod. The
Speaker 3: universities embraced in enforced ideologies of lies. The Catholic Church
Speaker 3: lie about sexual abuse and the connection to the prevalence
Speaker 3: of sexually active gay priests. Exactly is that the problem?
Speaker 3: Honeycomming institution. They light about the benefits of mass migration
Speaker 3: and diversity. They light about Trump and Russia. They sure didn't.
Speaker 3: The political parties in their corporate allies light about what
Speaker 3: global is being for ordinary people. The media have lied,
Speaker 3: and they do lie about most things. This past weekend,
Speaker 3: everybody was talking about the new report in Blaze Media
Speaker 3: alleging that the mysterious January sixth pipe bomber was in
Speaker 3: fact a former Capitol Police officer, the implications being that
Speaker 3: the whole event was orchestrated by the deep state to
Speaker 3: discredit Donald Trump. Maybe mainstream media are busy trying to
Speaker 3: validate this reporting on their own. If The Blaze has
Speaker 3: this wrong, they're going to be suited to oblivion, and
Speaker 3: so will all the other media who amplify a false charge.
Speaker 3: I can tell you that.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: All I can tell you is that nobody in the
Speaker 3: MSM are talking about it as I write it, even
Speaker 3: though it is an explosive story. People were in fact
Speaker 3: talking about it. Yeah, And in fact, before we could
Speaker 3: do this episode, The Bulwark, which has a both a
Speaker 3: website with articles and is a podcast network, came up
Speaker 3: with an article by Will Sommer, who used to write
Speaker 3: for The Journalists. Yeah, good journalist. We took a billing
Speaker 3: hat classicgether. I believe it was the post that he
Speaker 3: wrote for at the time. He was like one of
Speaker 3: the leading QAnon experts for years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're student Daddy beastssing for a while.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Daily Beast is I think where I knew him from.
Speaker 3: And he wrote a really good article called the Blazes
Speaker 3: pipe on Bombshell appears to bomb and basically Dreer says here,
Speaker 3: well if the bit if the Blaze is wrong, we'll
Speaker 3: be soon do oblivion. And the short answer is yeah,
Speaker 3: I think yeah, because they absolutely named this lady and
Speaker 3: the Capitol Police. To make a long story short, if
Speaker 3: you don't want to read the whole Blaze article, you
Speaker 3: can read the piece on the bulwark. You can read
Speaker 3: the sections of it, or you can type the link
Speaker 3: to the Blaze article into like archive dot org, so
Speaker 3: you don't give him traffic if you want. It's not good.
Speaker 3: It's the entire their entire claims that this particular woman,
Speaker 3: and I am not going to name this woman because
Speaker 3: I don't think she's the bomber.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 3: People as being a terrorist if you're not sure they were.
Speaker 3: I will say that she's a woman, and that she's
Speaker 3: a Capitol Police officer, or at least now a former
Speaker 3: Capitol Police officer who is kind of insinuated by the
Speaker 3: Blaze and has been absolutely taken up by the right
Speaker 3: wing media immediately since to be a Now she got
Speaker 3: poached by the CIA right and that's taken as like
Speaker 3: proof that she definitely did this. She's a security guard
Speaker 3: at the CIA's office. She's not a CIA I'm sorry, guys.
Speaker 3: She's a rent to cop for the CIA, which is,
Speaker 3: let's be fair, probably the highest rung of rent to cop. Sure,
Speaker 3: like you know, you're taking a step up as a
Speaker 3: rent to cop, but she's not. She's not out there
Speaker 3: over throwing democracies yet. I don't know. Maybe they fast
Speaker 3: track you once you're CIA enough. But so the whole
Speaker 3: claim that the Blaze is staking the reputation on because
Speaker 3: if you're paying attention to like info wars, well not
Speaker 3: reputation their financial solvency because info wars currently owes like
Speaker 3: a billion and a half dollars for wrongly accusing people
Speaker 3: of having faked mass shootings and the deaths of their
Speaker 3: own children. So their argument that this lady has to
Speaker 3: be it is based on they have some old footage
Speaker 3: of her, like the jogging track, and there's a couple
Speaker 3: of clips from the drug rep they showed. But they're
Speaker 3: claiming that this gate analysis that they did between the
Speaker 3: Capitol bomber and this woman is based on footage of
Speaker 3: her that they are not publishing publicly. That's good so
Speaker 3: that you can verify it. But that they say is
Speaker 3: ninety four percent. And they talk to a Gaate analysis
Speaker 3: expert and he did a personal Gate analysis and he
Speaker 3: said it had be more like ninety eight percent. So
Speaker 3: that means basically it definitely was her because gaate analysis
Speaker 3: is for sure real and not one of the Every
Speaker 3: kind of forensic science is a lie, lie.
Speaker 1: It's not even very good for flying shoes convicting. We
Speaker 1: have fear review data to show that you shouldn't choose
Speaker 1: your running shoes of gay analysis, let alone fucking.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, there's many articles about how it may not
Speaker 3: be the future of the shoe in stimula, shouldn't be
Speaker 3: hinging your publications survival. I'm getting right that somebody was
Speaker 3: a bomber bag.
Speaker 2: This is this is just the latest attempt by the
Speaker 2: right to run this whole J six false flag conspiracy,
Speaker 2: which is picking up a lot of steam. Like a
Speaker 2: few months ago, the FBI released some information on how
Speaker 2: many agents they had in the area during January sixth,
Speaker 2: and this led many many conservative commentators to believe, Oh, look,
Speaker 2: the FBI had just admitted that it was their agents
Speaker 2: that actually started the riot and was most of the
Speaker 2: like rowdy, rambunctious crew members and no, the specific wording
Speaker 2: on the announcement or statement regarding the presence of agents
Speaker 2: at J six was after after the insurrection had already
Speaker 2: started and agents were sent there to keep it under control.
Speaker 2: That's what it's referring to and cash Hotel released a
Speaker 2: statement days later clarifying this, but of course that doesn't
Speaker 2: pick up nearly as much traction as the original claims were.
Speaker 2: So this whole gain analysis thing is continuing on this,
Speaker 2: this whole conspiracy theory about how the FBI and the
Speaker 2: CIA staged all of January sixth to crush Trump and
Speaker 2: remove him from power, and probably warrants of a future
Speaker 2: episode just on January sixth conspiracy theory instead of propagated
Speaker 2: the past few months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we probably, I mean honestly, yes, but okay,
Speaker 3: to continue with this. So gain analysis was half of
Speaker 3: what their case lay on. The other half of the
Speaker 3: case was interviews with a couple of different people, primarily
Speaker 3: an FBI whistleblower, a former FBI agent who made a
Speaker 3: claim that like, yeah, we tied the woman this officers
Speaker 3: neighbor to a vehicle that like picked up the bomber.
Speaker 3: This is not based on publicly available information. This is
Speaker 3: based on the statements made by former FBI agent Kyle Saraphim,
Speaker 3: who is now a right wing media personality. Of course,
Speaker 3: and we're just trusting that this guy who is former
Speaker 3: FBI agent trying to rebrand himself as an influencer, is
Speaker 3: telling us the truth about all of this stuff that
Speaker 3: they're not presenting us with. This is this is kind
Speaker 3: of dressed up as ocent, but they're not actually providing
Speaker 3: you with the information.
Speaker 4: There's no actual open source intelligence.
Speaker 3: You can't work back from there because they're hiding a
Speaker 3: lot of stuff. Right. There's a couple other things that
Speaker 3: Somber notes and his article here to make their case
Speaker 3: against the former Capitol police officer Baker is. The author
Speaker 3: and co author Joseph H. Hannaman focused on a comparison
Speaker 3: between the officers Gates, some of which was apparently captured
Speaker 3: in years old footage of her playing soccer and footage
Speaker 3: of the pipeop such from the night of January fifth.
Speaker 3: Instead of using suspect footage released by the FBI, however,
Speaker 3: the Blaze claims that use footage from another source the
Speaker 3: article doesn't name. Critically, the Blaze didn't release an actual
Speaker 3: video comparison or significant details with the Gate analysis. Instead,
Speaker 3: it draws on the work of a man the Blaze
Speaker 3: called a video sleuth, a little known X user named Armatas,
Speaker 3: whose online profile image is a picture from the nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety eight role playing video game Zeno Gears.
Speaker 4: Hell, yeah, Zeno Gears, great twigs Net video game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, You're not gonna get sued into oblivion for this shit.
Speaker 3: The Blaze, I'm proud of you. Guys.
Speaker 1: Don't believe the people who published vance Bolt's probably last
Speaker 1: interview would do this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, shocking, shocking stuff. Now, to be again totally fair here,
Speaker 3: Dreyer does not treat this with any sort of critical
Speaker 3: thought whatsoever. But actually a bunch of the people critiquing
Speaker 3: this have been on the right, and I w I
Speaker 3: partially agree with Drere's I think it's a mistake that
Speaker 3: the mainstream media has not dedicated more effort to busting
Speaker 3: this immediately and to pointing out the weaknesses and stuff
Speaker 3: like Gate analysis immediately out the Gate. So it does
Speaker 3: kind of sound like ignoring it. I think they're largely
Speaker 3: I think largely this isn't getting covered because it's so
Speaker 3: shady and bad and because it's dangerous to spread these
Speaker 3: kinds of claims about a person.
Speaker 4: Sure, I mean, yeah, it's like it's like The Blaze.
Speaker 3: It's not even Fox News, right, there's already law enforcement
Speaker 3: station outside this woman's house. Because of the number of
Speaker 3: threats that you see, right, like, like again, there's she
Speaker 3: has ample claims for damages here.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So a couple of the people who have come after,
Speaker 3: one of them is after this article. One of them
Speaker 3: is Julie Kelly, who's a right wing media figure and
Speaker 3: is a major force in the January sixth conspiracy theory world.
Speaker 3: And she is largely attacking the Blaze because she's doing
Speaker 3: her own investigation into the who did the pipe bombing? Right,
Speaker 3: So she's she's pointed out some very obvious problems. Why
Speaker 3: don't you post that other video you have, right, why
Speaker 3: don't you show the evidence of the gate analysis? Right?
Speaker 3: So she she's been attacking this, as has Joe Hoff,
Speaker 3: who's co founder of the Gateway Pundit. Hell yeah, oh god, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: great stuff. So there's people on the right talking shit
Speaker 3: about this stuff. It's worth noting that when this initially
Speaker 3: came out, Glenn Beck spent days beforehand hyping it up
Speaker 3: and talking about how like this is the biggest I
Speaker 3: think that he literally called it like the biggest conspiracy
Speaker 3: in American history maybe, which is like Jesus Christ dream smaller.
Speaker 4: Come on, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But within like a day of the article actually
Speaker 3: coming out, the Blaze added an editor's note is wrong,
Speaker 3: which is pretty damning. An earlier version of this story
Speaker 3: said it appeared the bombing suspect interacted with police after publication.
Speaker 3: A congressional investigator with access to a camera angle that
Speaker 3: has not been made public reached out and told Blaze
Speaker 3: News a person similarly attired to the suspected bomber who
Speaker 3: comes out of the alley and crosses the street towards
Speaker 3: the two Capitol police vehicles is not the same person
Speaker 3: as the hoodie clad pipe bom suspect walking down the
Speaker 3: alley just minutes earlier.
Speaker 5: Amazing wouldn't there gata.
Speaker 4: Analysis have shown that amazing work?
Speaker 3: Wouldn't you have known that if gata analysis.
Speaker 2: Was the was like, you can't rely on gain analysis
Speaker 2: to identify individuals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like this is all bullshit anyway. I
Speaker 3: largely did this just because fuck you, Rod Dreer. I like,
Speaker 3: we covered this stupid ass story. Will Sommer covered this
Speaker 3: stupid ass story and we made fun of it. Thank you, Will,
Speaker 3: Thank you the Bulwark. This is what I've got. I've done.
Speaker 2: That Dreer piece is also crazy and just in surreal,
Speaker 2: surreal because of how much of it is like talking
Speaker 2: about how we as in the right, needs to like
Speaker 2: re recalibrate, how we discuss the reality of like complete
Speaker 2: Jewish control over our media, and how it's fine actually
Speaker 2: because a whole bunch of various like ethnicities excel in
Speaker 2: various skills and that's not weird. So it's not weird
Speaker 2: that Jews control all the media. We shouldn't be worried
Speaker 2: about this. And how much of that piece skills like
Speaker 2: it could have been written in like the nineteen twenties. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's a crazy time, capsules, Yep. Anyway, that's my opinions
Speaker 2: on the tree or substack piece anti semitism, for anti semitism,
Speaker 2: it's a great time. I mean sure, I mean you
Speaker 2: could have a I would have a slightly more complicated
Speaker 2: analysis of the piece than just anti semitism, because True
Speaker 2: approaches that issue really oddly.
Speaker 4: I don't think he's anti Semitic.
Speaker 1: Frankly, I don't think he thinks he's anti semitic.
Speaker 5: I don't think he thinks he is. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 5: like I think that there's a difference between what he
Speaker 5: believes about himself of what he's trying to do and
Speaker 5: what he is doing.
Speaker 2: And yeah, sure, I mean I mean even even in
Speaker 2: the way that the article is written, and like a
Speaker 2: lot lot of it is. Yeah, I mean attacking a
Speaker 2: certain type of anti Semitism on the right.
Speaker 3: Well, you guys know what Rod Dreyer would hate. Other
Speaker 3: than an editor.
Speaker 4: I think he would actually love some acts.
Speaker 1: God, all right, we are back and we're going to
Speaker 1: do some very brief immigration stuff and then we will
Speaker 1: play the song you've all been waiting for and be
Speaker 1: able to talk to you. The United States Conference of
Speaker 1: Catholic Bishops based based basically thank you, gare issue a
Speaker 1: statement this week. It's about the strongest condemnation you're going
Speaker 1: to see from this entity of anything in a political realm. Right.
Speaker 4: HOPEFULLYO has not been solved on this issue.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, he is. And like we saw it, like
Speaker 1: with Bishop farm in San Diego, right, like who himself
Speaker 1: arrived as in what they call an unaccompanied minor, right,
Speaker 1: a child refugee. I'm going to read from the statement quote,
Speaker 1: we are disturbed when we see among our people a
Speaker 1: climate of fear and anxiety around questions of profiling and
Speaker 1: immigration enforcement. We are saddened by the state of contemporary
Speaker 1: debate and the verification of migrants. We are concerned about
Speaker 1: the conditions and detention centers and the lack of access
Speaker 1: to pastor or care. We lament that some immigrant in
Speaker 1: the United States barbitrarily lost their legal status. We are
Speaker 1: troubled by threats against the sanctity of houses of worship
Speaker 1: and a special nature of hospitals and schools. We are
Speaker 1: grieved when we need parents who fear being detained when
Speaker 1: taking their children to school, when we try to console
Speaker 1: family members who have already been separated from their loved ones.
Speaker 2: This isn't a usual based based, based, based, based based.
Speaker 1: Garrison has got a got a crucifix. I guess they
Speaker 1: haven't done this for like twelve years. Right last time
Speaker 1: they did it about contraception. I'm not saying a Catholic
Speaker 1: church is an organization that I agree with all the time.
Speaker 1: It's not. It's one that I disagree with most of
Speaker 1: the time. But I still think this is important, right, Like,
Speaker 1: this is an organization which has millions of followers in
Speaker 1: the United States, many many Catholics around the world, a
Speaker 1: lot of Catholics. Yeah, this is an organization which therefore
Speaker 1: we should pay attention to right. Uh, and I think
Speaker 1: it is telling that, yeah, the work Pope has not
Speaker 1: stop with this and that it seems like the fast
Speaker 1: madiority of bishops in the United States are on his side.
Speaker 4: No, it's it is.
Speaker 2: It is pretty funny we have like a never Trumper,
Speaker 2: nominally conservative, woke pope and the fact that he will
Speaker 2: not black down on this issue and has has actually
Speaker 2: has a number of statements on this the past the
Speaker 2: past few weeks and not.
Speaker 4: Softly worded statements either.
Speaker 3: Catholic priests have also been reasonably good on this issue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's important, especially because of how much these like
Speaker 2: weird like fascist friendly trads are using Catholicism as like
Speaker 2: a fashion statement.
Speaker 4: And Jdvans included.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna say our vice president have.
Speaker 2: The actual church be like frity freaked out by that.
Speaker 4: I think is good.
Speaker 2: It'd be worse if they were leaning into it, which
Speaker 2: certainly some cardinals like want when they were doing their selection.
Speaker 1: Well, if you look at the votes in this issue, right,
Speaker 1: like two hundred and sixteen votes in favor of five
Speaker 1: against the three ebstentions, so among bishops, which is think
Speaker 1: from cardinals, Like this is this is almost universal, right,
Speaker 1: and yet given that our vice president has made being
Speaker 1: an adult convert to Catholicism a large part of his
Speaker 1: personality embarrassing. Yeah, this is like, it is remarkable. It's
Speaker 1: worth paying attention to. Also, I think when I talk
Speaker 1: to migrants specifically, like when I was in the Darien
Speaker 1: Gap talking to migrants, their faith is massively important to
Speaker 1: so many of them, and a lot of people, especially
Speaker 1: coming from south of Central America, will be Catholic, right,
Speaker 1: and that is what propels them through, and so for
Speaker 1: them to feel that the Church has not abandoned them,
Speaker 1: it is important to them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The thing when I speak to people now who are here,
Speaker 1: the thing that they want more than anything is a
Speaker 1: priest to come to their hearing, to their meeting with them,
Speaker 1: Like that is what makes them feel safe. And so
Speaker 1: I am happy that the church is continuing to try
Speaker 1: and make them.
Speaker 3: Feel safe, because what else are you going to do? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we're trying everything else and it's not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I defer to what will make the person being
Speaker 3: victimized feel better and basically all instances, and if it's
Speaker 3: half like a priest along, then I'm glad the priest
Speaker 3: is there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I am happy that this is something that
Speaker 1: can make them feel safer.
Speaker 4: Because critical support to the Catholic church.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, very critical.
Speaker 5: Well, emphasis on the critical part, I think. I think
Speaker 5: the other thing is worth noting that this same conference
Speaker 5: also voted to have an official ban on any gender
Speaker 5: affirming Catholic hospitals, which is like one in seven of
Speaker 5: all people in the US get their care at Catholic
Speaker 5: hospitals because there's a million of them, so critical, Yeah,
Speaker 5: like lots of they're not Yeah, look there they are.
Speaker 4: No Protestants.
Speaker 2: Okay, it does feel bad to have so much Catholic
Speaker 2: praise on the show, but you know, I will swallow
Speaker 2: my Protestant prize here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm neither a Catholic nor Protestant, but I'm glad this
Speaker 1: is happening. You're British, yes, so you not raddled the two.
Speaker 1: Do we do Catholicism without popes?
Speaker 2: I think we should have popes without See that's interesting, Robert,
Speaker 2: that's an interesting idea.
Speaker 3: That's Discordianism.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, well yeah, that's kind of the least
Speaker 2: interesting version. A real kind of non Catholic like clerical class. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put this down in my.
Speaker 3: Sci fi novel folder.
Speaker 4: You know, stock is a forum of you.
Speaker 1: Know, Adam just just just gradually reduced the volume we're
Speaker 1: going to get. We're back to immigration. We did learn
Speaker 1: this week that the Department of Home ad Security secretly
Speaker 1: and illegally kept domestic data on nine hundred Chicago Land
Speaker 1: residents under Biden, just in case anyone was wondering what
Speaker 1: they were doing before people started paying attention to them.
Speaker 1: They also quote irrevocably destroyed video for me inside a
Speaker 1: broad view, which is an ice tendin facility in Chicago Land.
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course did.
Speaker 1: I'm not shocked by that, I will say, like I
Speaker 1: would have been shocked if that had happened under a
Speaker 1: previous administration. Put it that way, like, it's not massively
Speaker 1: out of character for them to be incompetent at soaring
Speaker 1: and this kind of thing. And Ken Paxton has attempted
Speaker 1: to sue Harris County, a place in Texas, for donating
Speaker 1: not to nonprofits to provide a legal aid to migrants.
Speaker 1: He has some justification to this, which is theater careers.
Speaker 1: But I'm just going to name a few of the ngngos,
Speaker 1: here Gals and Houston Immigrant Representation Project, Kids in Needed Defense,
Speaker 1: Justice for All Immigrants, but Asis and Baker Ripley, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this does I think show part of the strategy which
Speaker 1: we saw and we have seen since twenty eighteen. Right,
Speaker 1: Like you'll remember that lets of Angelo volunteers and twenty
Speaker 1: eighteen were placed on a watch list, as were many
Speaker 1: journalists for crossing to cover the migrant caravan. But this
Speaker 1: I did that The n g os are quote aiding
Speaker 1: and am betting is a phrase you always see, right
Speaker 1: like that that that somehow people would come here if
Speaker 1: it wasn't for NGOs. Often this takes on a specific
Speaker 1: form of blaming one n g O, which is highest
Speaker 1: or he Us Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society.
Speaker 3: Right and well if you're one, guess as to why
Speaker 3: they blame that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like repeat guest of the show Anti Semitism
Speaker 1: coming back again, which resulted directly in the in the
Speaker 1: Tree of Life shooting, right, Like this is that same
Speaker 1: intellectual family of thought. I guess that is what I
Speaker 1: will say as ludicrous. People come here because their lives
Speaker 1: are not Liverpool where they're at. That's what I got.
Speaker 1: Play the song.
Speaker 6: Jazz jazz.
Speaker 5: All right, so there is actually a surprising amount of
Speaker 5: tariff news. All right, the tariff freebate checks. Are we
Speaker 5: getting tariff freebate checks? I think probably not? So what
Speaker 5: is this? Trump started talking about this on November eighth
Speaker 5: on True Social per QSA. Today he truthed, I refuse
Speaker 5: to call it truth. I am recommending to Senate Republicans
Speaker 5: that the hundreds of billions of dollars is the hundreds
Speaker 5: of billions are capitalized for reasons that are baffling, currently
Speaker 5: being sent to money sucking insurance companies in order to
Speaker 5: save the bad healthcare provided by Obamacare be directly sent
Speaker 5: to the people so that they can purchase their own healthcare,
Speaker 5: their own much better health care. And so originally this
Speaker 5: was going to be like a two thousand dollars thing
Speaker 5: to your health savings account from tariff proceeds or something.
Speaker 5: And then the second time he stopped talking about the
Speaker 5: health savings account stuff, and he was just saying a
Speaker 5: two thousand dollars check the USA today. The piece notes
Speaker 5: that the Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Bessett, said and
Speaker 5: ABC News on November ninth, which was Sunday, that Trump's
Speaker 5: proposed tariff dividend quote could come in a lot of forms,
Speaker 5: adding it could just be the tax decreases that we
Speaker 5: are seeing on the president's agenda. No tax on tips,
Speaker 5: no tax in overtime, no taxes, social security, deductibility of
Speaker 5: auto loans. He said, So those are substantial deductions that
Speaker 5: are being financed to the tax bill. So he apparently
Speaker 5: like hadn't heard any of this is what it seems like.
Speaker 5: And then a few days later this was this was yesterday.
Speaker 5: On Wednesday the twelfth, Caroline Levitt, who's the ghoulish press secretary,
Speaker 5: said that Trump is quote committed to the payments, So
Speaker 5: who knows.
Speaker 2: You can't call her goulish just because she's a twenty
Speaker 2: seven year a woman who looks like that, and ya,
Speaker 2: that's not cool.
Speaker 5: Hey, you know what, We're not gonna working, We're not
Speaker 5: gonna do this. But she she she is ghoulish, not
Speaker 5: because she looks like she's forty and she's like a ghoul,
Speaker 5: but like no, but like she also acts like a
Speaker 5: ghoul constantly, which is the actual thing that she is
Speaker 5: ghoulish for.
Speaker 2: Right, every press secretary I've ever seen has made me
Speaker 2: so mad, like the job of a press secretary is infuriating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember thesak bonds.
Speaker 4: Well, also like they've never been good.
Speaker 5: They also did used to be more normal than this,
Speaker 5: Like they didn't used to be this unhinted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Biden didn't bring him back. I feel like
Speaker 1: like like the first Trump had been moved to a
Speaker 1: mini a certain way.
Speaker 5: Too. It's just awful, terrible stuff. Didn't used to be
Speaker 5: like this. One are the few things I'll ever say
Speaker 5: that anyway. As you were saying, yeah, so so, she
Speaker 5: said that Trump is committed to the payments. I again,
Speaker 5: I don't think we're gonna see this probably not definitely,
Speaker 5: don't plan on having an x two thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's committed to the payments
Speaker 2: as much as he is his like first or second wife.
Speaker 5: Yeah, which is not much so. The second, the second
Speaker 5: incredibly important piece of tariff news is the pasta tariffs.
Speaker 5: The Department of Commerce seven percent pasta tariffs on imported
Speaker 5: Italian pasta garrison.
Speaker 3: It's fine, the first tariff. It's still available. You can
Speaker 3: still get your mac you know.
Speaker 5: As as as the Guardian points out, most pasta in
Speaker 5: the US is made in the US, so it's not
Speaker 5: really affected by.
Speaker 4: Those hold on, hold on, let me let me allow
Speaker 4: me to finish the sentence.
Speaker 5: Garrison, I will address.
Speaker 1: Hu.
Speaker 5: So it's it's mostly just gluten. It's mostly gluten free pasta.
Speaker 5: And also like imported fancy pasta, which is like nice
Speaker 5: little pasta.
Speaker 4: Well fancy is a bit of Okay, it's like two
Speaker 4: dollars more.
Speaker 1: Okay, attack some pretension, you know, and so.
Speaker 5: This but this sucks for people who like pasta, that's good.
Speaker 5: And also for people who are loot to gluten or
Speaker 5: who just are trying to reduce the amount of and
Speaker 5: they're eating for diabetic reasons, et cetera, et cetera. That
Speaker 5: all really sucks. In that same piece, Yeah, that same
Speaker 5: Guardian piece, the unbelievably named Scott Ketchum, who is the
Speaker 5: founder of like an artismal.
Speaker 3: Ketcham is a real last name. That's why the Pokemon game.
Speaker 1: Is ida Scott.
Speaker 4: I don't understand why Ketchum is funny? Why Ketchum funny?
Speaker 3: Did you not play the Pokemon to.
Speaker 5: No? Also, also it's so close to being ketchup and
Speaker 5: I think about okay, think about Italian pasta.
Speaker 2: Whatever, Okay, you put ketchup on Italian pasta?
Speaker 4: Interesting, No, but you do you know who does do this?
Speaker 4: Chinese hotels.
Speaker 5: In two thousand and nine, the thing I discovered when they,
Speaker 5: for some reason fed us tried to feed us American
Speaker 5: food instead of feeding us Chinese food, and dear god,
Speaker 5: awful zero attest.
Speaker 3: My favorite thing in any foreign country is when they're like,
Speaker 3: I know what you want. You came to Grease to
Speaker 3: eat it, TGI Fridays, didn't you?
Speaker 2: Burger is all over Berlin. Burger's not America, and it
Speaker 2: is now.
Speaker 1: I feel like he'd be disappointed to Garson if you
Speaker 1: knew how many people in continental Europe or eating pasta
Speaker 1: and catch up on a daily basis brown sugar.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Europeans are. Europeans are obviously sick.
Speaker 1: You've been to Belgium.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's wrong, I have Yeah.
Speaker 5: Okay, locking locking back in, locking back in on the past.
Speaker 5: Anarchist cafe was closed two pm. Those lazy words. God,
Speaker 5: look a look at the conditions that happened to with
Speaker 5: every and I mentioned inflation. Out came the inflation joke.
Speaker 5: Kerry Talmer's trying to finish it as what pasta God okay,
Speaker 5: finishing this. Scott Ketchum agrees that the manufacturers will quote
Speaker 5: take advantage of the news and slightly raise their prices.
Speaker 5: That's just business, he said, So this actually probably will
Speaker 5: increase pasta prices across the board because they'll uses as
Speaker 5: justification for raising prices.
Speaker 1: Canonically, how old is Ashketcher. I'm trying to work out
Speaker 1: of this is a sibling, since.
Speaker 5: It's like he's been like thirteen for no, but he's
Speaker 5: been thirteen for these entirely, Like.
Speaker 1: So we can think siblings more than parents.
Speaker 4: Fstein's dream.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm okay. Ash Kitchen's brother put it in the law.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, okay, okay, two more things. Two more
Speaker 5: things they got to get there, I threw out to god, okay,
Speaker 5: one fifty year mortgage. Trump has become obsessed with the
Speaker 5: idea of fifty year mortgage is just an idea, so
Speaker 5: unhinged I have any Republicans talk about positively. The mortgage
Speaker 5: industry is like, don't do this. This is a bad idea.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to read the full paragraph I had
Speaker 5: here from CNN, but you know, CNN did a very
Speaker 5: basic calculation of instead of a thirty year fixed mortgage,
Speaker 5: a fifty year fixed mortgage. So the basically their calculation
Speaker 5: on like a four hundred and fifty thousand dollars house
Speaker 5: was that you would save about three hundred dollars a monthechnically,
Speaker 5: but over the course of the loan, instead of spending
Speaker 5: about five hundred and fifty thousand dollars in interest, you
Speaker 5: would spend a million dollars in interest.
Speaker 1: And that's pools. Yeah, rue, that's how we save money
Speaker 1: by give me half a million dollars to the bank.
Speaker 3: Well, hey, you're not even talking about the fifteen neur
Speaker 3: auto loans. Yeah. Everyone who buys a Kiya can trust
Speaker 3: that it will keep working for fifteen years.
Speaker 1: He's going to say he's driving.
Speaker 5: How worn't lasting fifty years? They're made like cardboard, right,
Speaker 5: Like they're just more than twice the value of the
Speaker 5: house in interest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, make America affordable again? Yeah, okay, unbelievable.
Speaker 5: And then finally I want to close with what is
Speaker 5: actually going on with the jobs and inflation numbers for October,
Speaker 5: because I think people are getting a lot of very
Speaker 5: bad information about this. I mean, and it's not their fault.
Speaker 5: It's again because.
Speaker 2: The Democrat shutdown made it impossible to get any reliable data,
Speaker 2: so now we can never have data ever again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so okay, okay, so let's let's let's let let's
Speaker 5: go into like what is it? What is actually going
Speaker 5: on here? So on Wednesday, Caroline Levitt said that we
Speaker 5: might not ever get October the October jobs and inflation data. Oops.
Speaker 4: So however, Comma, I'm sure this number is would have
Speaker 4: been five Comma.
Speaker 1: Let's fair it hallowed bump would have been huge Comma.
Speaker 5: On Thursday, National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett, who by
Speaker 5: the way, is the guy whose whole thing is that
Speaker 5: he wants to he wants to impose taxes on holding
Speaker 5: US bonds the worst, said maybe the only idea I've
Speaker 5: ever seen fifty year mortgage. Astonishingly bad ideas. But he
Speaker 5: said on Fox News this is today as day of recording,
Speaker 5: said on Fox News that we're going to get some
Speaker 5: of the data, but the data we're supposed to get
Speaker 5: is very weird. Now, so this is the September data
Speaker 5: we're supposed to get next week because that was already
Speaker 5: recorded before the before they got mentioned, right, Yeah, and
Speaker 5: there is legitimately even in a sort of not if
Speaker 5: a normal Bureau of Labors toatistics was trying to get
Speaker 5: these statistics out, it would be a little difficult for them. However,
Speaker 5: come we're only getting the jobs added numbers and not
Speaker 5: the job lost numbers.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, wow, good brides.
Speaker 1: What a great strategy.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm sure that I'm sure that number is fine.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's not negative seventy thousand jobs or something.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Right, And you know, and apparently that's because the survey,
Speaker 5: the collected information never went out and I I mean,
Speaker 5: it probably didn't because of the shutdown, but also like
Speaker 5: you could, you could work this out. They're just not
Speaker 5: doing yet. We talked a few months ago about Trump's
Speaker 5: attempt to take over the Buera of Labor statistics, which
Speaker 5: with his attempt to install the hideously incompetent Heritage Foundation
Speaker 5: economists and I use that term very loosely here EJ
Speaker 5: and TONI. And Trump was actually forced to like pull
Speaker 5: back on installing this guy who's ahead of a buer
Speaker 5: of labor satistics. So it's being run by the interim
Speaker 5: head and has been for a long time now, but
Speaker 5: it seems like a there's conflicting information going out and
Speaker 5: be it does seem like Trump has been able to
Speaker 5: get a decent amount of control over the beer of Libortistics,
Speaker 5: which is supposed to be a nonpartisan body that just
Speaker 5: releases the data because everyone in the entire coples economy
Speaker 5: reclied relies on it. And it is possible that this
Speaker 5: is that we have already gotten our last unbrigged like
Speaker 5: peer labor statistics reports. I mean, I can't confirm that
Speaker 5: they're straight up breaking it. And it's also possible that oh, well,
Speaker 5: this wasn't the product of that, and we are going
Speaker 5: to get some of the data like we are supposed
Speaker 5: to get inflation numbers, but it's not good. Oops.
Speaker 2: Well to end on some good news, I guess. On Monday,
Speaker 2: this Supreme Court rejected a call to overturn or here
Speaker 2: it's previous ruling on legalizing same sex marriage nation wide.
Speaker 4: So this is where this is where they're this is
Speaker 4: where they're drawing the line right now?
Speaker 1: Is this?
Speaker 2: I think I think I did predict this a few
Speaker 2: months ago, and then which people we got a little
Speaker 2: bit mad at me for saying that I didn't think
Speaker 2: they were going to pick this one up.
Speaker 4: Another w in the gear column.
Speaker 2: But I think it is fairly interesting that this is
Speaker 2: this is the point in which they're like, nah, nah,
Speaker 2: it's not worth it. Like this this is more settled
Speaker 2: to them than even the abortion thing was. I think
Speaker 2: I think some of the general like economic issues, shows
Speaker 2: that there's not a real desire for pushing on this
Speaker 2: right now based on you know, gestures broadly at other
Speaker 2: economy stuff and some of the some of the some
Speaker 2: of the anti woke fuel maybe maybe running out as
Speaker 2: the as the economic situation becomes more and more dire dire,
Speaker 2: right Like, how much longer can the Republicans just scream
Speaker 2: about trans people as they're ruining the economy? Do you
Speaker 2: think it's going to still work for them in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six? Maybe not. They might be scared that they've
Speaker 2: put all of their eggs in this whole anti woke
Speaker 2: culture basket and now that they're in charge in the
Speaker 2: country's still getting worse. They're like, well, I wonder if
Speaker 2: we can replay that card or not.
Speaker 5: As a final economy note, I want to note that
Speaker 5: SoftBank sold all of their shares in in video Share.
Speaker 4: Don't worry about it. It's part of regular stalk rotation.
Speaker 4: It's fine.
Speaker 5: These are the biggest rubes who have ever resisted, have
Speaker 5: come rid of all of.
Speaker 3: Ships.
Speaker 5: These are these are the we work guys told.
Speaker 3: The bag for we work, Yes, which I mean does
Speaker 3: that mean that they're they're getting out too early of
Speaker 3: ay I or does it mean that, uh, they're hesitant
Speaker 3: their gun shy enough that they got out just in time.
Speaker 3: We'll see you can say.
Speaker 5: We reported the news scarce. I'm stealing your line this week.
Speaker 3: Why we all stole that line from a terrible man.
Speaker 2: You haven't seen the Newsroom that's stolen valor. Ye, great show.
Speaker 2: I would love a new season of the Newsroom where
Speaker 2: he works for some like bullshit like internet news company.
Speaker 2: He's he's like a substacker and he has like a
Speaker 2: home studio.
Speaker 1: Oh top ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah God, I would love that he's super big in it.
Speaker 3: But they don't ever make a direct point of it.
Speaker 6: It just becomes like subtly caught obvious that like, oh wow,
Speaker 6: this this is a guy who's bought into some weird
Speaker 6: conspiracy theories. Sure I was thinking because I mentioned it
Speaker 6: came out the same year as True Detective. I would
Speaker 6: like a new season of the news Room that's a
Speaker 6: crossover with the first season of True Detective, or where
Speaker 6: we get we get Woody Harrelson and we get that
Speaker 6: British lady all all in the same room together.
Speaker 3: It'll be great.
Speaker 2: They would be a nasty combo. Imagine how which funked
Speaker 2: up ship they could get up.
Speaker 3: To be awful? It would be awful. Hell yeah, well
Speaker 3: we're not even on the air anymore.
Speaker 4: Oh no, we're still in the air.
Speaker 3: Well I stopped recording.
Speaker 4: We reported the news.
Speaker 1: Weeds.
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