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Speaker 2: This is it could happen here or Executive Disorder, our

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Speaker 2: weekly newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the

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Speaker 2: crumbling world, and what it means for you. I'm Garrison

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Speaker 2: Davis Todame, joined by Mia Wong, James Stout, and Robert Evans.

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Speaker 2: This episode, we are covering the week of November fifth

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Speaker 2: to November thirteenth.

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Speaker 3: That's how I feel about the week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how you feel.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 2: The shutdown is now over, the longest shutdown in US history.

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Speaker 2: Last weekend, eight Democratic senators caved on the shutdown, approving

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Speaker 2: a deal to reopen the government without extending the existing

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Speaker 2: Obamacare subsidies, gaining only a promise to have a Senate

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Speaker 2: floor vote on healthcare tax credits sometime in December, with

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Speaker 2: no indication given that this vote would pass the Chamber

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Speaker 2: and no commitment from Speaker Mike Johnson that he would

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Speaker 2: hold a vote in the House. None of the Democratic

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Speaker 2: senators that sided with the Republicans are up for reelection

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that suggests pretty clearly that this

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Speaker 5: was orchestrated in stage by the Democratic Party as a whole.

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Speaker 5: You don't have Oh, we picked eight specific people you

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Speaker 5: can't vote against in the next cycle. Yeah that Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it was very clearly just stage managing.

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Speaker 2: Specifically with the Schumer being somewhat in charge of the Senate,

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Speaker 2: that Democrats, who likely would have been the person orchestrating this,

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Speaker 2: who himself did not vote for this deal, was able

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Speaker 2: to personally vote against it despite likely being the one

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Speaker 2: orchestrating this entire deal. Yeah, two of the senators who

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Speaker 2: signed on are retiring at the end of their term.

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Speaker 2: But even if we can't get health care through this

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Speaker 2: shutdown bill, you know what these Democrats.

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Speaker 4: Did able to squeeze it in.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if the Democrats squeze did in there,

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Speaker 2: but it is in there. That's a Delta eight hemp

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Speaker 2: THHC band, which is inclusive, horrible in the Senate funding bill,

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Speaker 2: absolutely awfully.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course they did.

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Speaker 3: A boy hattie, and the hemp industry has gotten angry

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Speaker 3: about this. They're they're planning to fight it in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six. I guess we'll all see because it takes

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Speaker 3: a while to take effect. But yeah, that is there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of hemp farms in Kentucky that are pissed

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Speaker 3: off right now.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: So we can't get healthcare, but at least we also

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Speaker 2: can't get HEMP, THHC. So what if there wasn't bread

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Speaker 2: or circuses?

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Speaker 5: What would happen? Then?

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Speaker 1: Wow, we would vote for the Democrats mere because they

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Speaker 1: have the least bad option. I think that's how that

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Speaker 1: got It's right. I've been on Blue Sky a few

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Speaker 1: times this week. I think I've got it pretty drilled in.

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Speaker 2: Catherine Cortes Maestro of Nevada, Dick Derman of Illinois, John

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Speaker 2: Fetterman of Pennsylvania, maying Asan of New Hampshire, Tim Kaine

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Speaker 2: of Virginia, Angus King of Maine. No King's protest member

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Speaker 2: just dropped. Catherine Cortez Mosto of Nevada, and Jean Shaheen

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Speaker 2: of New Hampshire speaking of the Senate and the Oversight Committee,

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Speaker 2: this whole Jeffrey Epstein, things doesn't seem to be going away,

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Speaker 2: does it?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 3: Like you, I was a skeptic about like, could there

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Speaker 3: be anything in there that's actually gonna hurt Trump if

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Speaker 3: he hasn't been hurt so far by everything that is

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Speaker 3: out there? And I don't know. I guess I'm still

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a skeptic, but it's increasingly hard

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Speaker 3: to be because like, how much? How could it be

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Speaker 3: worse than this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something that isn't this how to be worse.

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Speaker 3: Than Donald Trump was at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion and walked

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Speaker 3: into a glass door because he was so busy oggling children.

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Speaker 1: The fact that this is what they released to distract

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Speaker 1: you from the stuff they don't want to release, well

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Speaker 1: is one of the Democrats?

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Speaker 2: Oh to be fair, well both This was the emails

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Speaker 2: they were able to subpoena from Jeffrey Epstein's estate as

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Speaker 2: a part of the Oversight Investigation into the federal government's

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Speaker 2: investigation of the Epstein files. Yesterday, the Oversec Committee released

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Speaker 2: this batch of files related to the Epstein investigation, mostly

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Speaker 2: of note a series of emails from about twenty eleven

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Speaker 2: to twenty nineteen, including one from Epstein written to Maxwell

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Speaker 2: from twenty eleven quote, I want you to realize that

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Speaker 2: the dog that hasn't barked is Trump. Victim redacted named

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Speaker 2: victim spent hours at my house with him. He has

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Speaker 2: never once been mentioned, police chief, etc. I'm seventy five

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Speaker 2: percent there. In a short email, exchange from December twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 2: an unknown individual sent Jeffrey Epstein this message.

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Speaker 4: Quote, it will all blow over.

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Speaker 2: They're really just trying to take down Trump and doing

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Speaker 2: whatever they can to do that, with Epstein replying yes, thix, thanks,

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Speaker 2: it's wild because I am the one able to take

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Speaker 2: him down. Whatever could he mean by that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows.

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Speaker 3: There's no way to tell. There's absolutely no way to tell.

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Speaker 1: If you are currently in high school English class and

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Speaker 1: people tell you will not be able to make billions

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Speaker 1: of dollars if you are unable to use grammar, punctuational

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Speaker 1: capital letters correctly. That that appears not to have been

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Speaker 1: an impediment to Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein's typing style is fascinating.

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Speaker 5: It's awful.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's extremely distinctive, which I suppose is a valuable

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Speaker 1: thing in itself.

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Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's fascinating, But I mean, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of different emails of note. A twenty nineteen email

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Speaker 2: from Epstein to Michael Wolfe quote Victim marl Argo redacted.

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Speaker 2: Trump said he asked me to resign, never a member ever.

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Speaker 2: Of course he knew about the girls, as he asked

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Speaker 2: Galaine to stop unquote.

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Speaker 5: Which, by the way, the way that I've been I've

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Speaker 5: been seeing that quote passed around is just that he

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Speaker 5: knew about the girl's part, which makes it a little

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Speaker 5: bit technically ambiguous as to what he's talking about. But

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Speaker 5: the second part being as he asked just Lane to stop, Oh,

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Speaker 5: that's as blatant as he could possibly be. Right, what

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Speaker 5: Emste's saying there was really clearer.

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Speaker 2: The main thing that's clear from this exchange is, at

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Speaker 2: the very least, the tend to which Trump was very

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Speaker 2: aware of Epstein's activities.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, in which everyone was not just fucking

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump, but like the Obama Whitehouse's chief legal counsel

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Speaker 3: from twenty eleven twenty fourteen, right, who he messaged with

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Speaker 3: regularly and seems to have been flirting with him. Right,

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Speaker 3: she seems to have been into him. And they're all

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Speaker 3: just kind of casually or he is with them casually

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Speaker 3: joking about like being a pedophile.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, there's emails from Steve Bannon here, who he's

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Speaker 5: just chatting with, like emails, Yeah, appear keel at one point.

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Speaker 2: The Steve benn In exchange is from twenty nineteen from

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein talking about a recent state visit message Prince

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Speaker 2: Andrew and Trump today too funny. Another reply from Epstein

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Speaker 2: recall Prince Andrew's accuser came out of mar A Lago

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Speaker 2: and response from Bannon, can't believe nobody's making you the

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Speaker 2: connective issue Jesus Christ dwild wildly blatant stuff. In exchange

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Speaker 2: from twenty fifteen from Michael Wolf to Jeffrey Epstein, I

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Speaker 2: hear CNN is planning to ask Trump tonight about his

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Speaker 2: relationship with you, either on air or in scrum. Afterwards,

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Speaker 2: Epstein replied, if you were able to craft an answer

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Speaker 2: for him, what do you think it should be. Wolf

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Speaker 2: responded to that quote, I think you should let him

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Speaker 2: hang himself. If he says he hasn't been on the

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Speaker 2: plane or to the house, then that gives you a

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Speaker 2: valuable pr and political currency. You can hang him in

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Speaker 2: a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you,

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Speaker 2: or if it really looks like he could win, you

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Speaker 2: could save him generating a debt. Of course, it is

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Speaker 2: possible that when asked, he'll say, Jeffery is a great

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Speaker 2: guy and has gotten a raw deal. It is a

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Speaker 2: victim of political correctness, which is to be outlawed in

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Speaker 2: a Trump regime.

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Speaker 1: Managine putting that in writing to a Gmail address.

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Speaker 4: Gmail is a fascinating choice by FTV.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah yeah. Also the fact that every goddamn

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Speaker 3: one of these messages ends with synth on my iPad

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Speaker 3: is it's just constantly amusing, said to my h They're

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Speaker 3: always like two extra spaces between sentences, Like you can

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Speaker 3: tell they're old people typing on iPads a lot of

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Speaker 3: the time with their fucking clumsy ass fingers. Yeah, beautiful,

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Speaker 3: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Tech si is huge.

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Speaker 2: Some really disturbing exchanges from Epstein and a man named

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Speaker 2: Lendon Thomas Junior, with Epstein saying would you like a

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Speaker 2: photo of Donald and girls in bikinis in my kitchen?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Bro, Hawaiian tropical girl Lauren Potrella. Epstein then sent a

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Speaker 2: link displaying an image of a woman quote my twenty

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Speaker 2: I gave to Donald unquote. One thing I want to

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Speaker 2: note here is that Thomas Junior, yeah, baby, long long

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Speaker 2: time journalist at the New York Times, and she's just

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Speaker 2: handed this financial journalist.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so he couldn't do anything with it. He could

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Speaker 3: do nothing with it. Obviously, he's a financial journalist. He

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Speaker 3: can't report on what financier Jeffrey Epstein tells him about

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump walking into a glass door because he was

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Speaker 3: oggling and children at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion. That's a thing

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Speaker 3: that Jeffrey joked about to him, and The New York

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Speaker 3: Times never printed. Yeah, in twenty sixteen they had this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, there's a tendency and I understand why to

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Speaker 5: get sort of burned out on this right to be like,

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Speaker 5: oh my god, it's more Epstein news. But we should

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Speaker 5: be furious about this. Yeah, this was you know what

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Speaker 5: we have here? And this isn't even the stuff they're

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Speaker 5: trying to hide, right, This isn't the Epstein files. This

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Speaker 5: is just the emails that the Oversight Committe has been

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Speaker 5: able to get right, and it suggests very plainly that

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Speaker 5: we are ruled by a group of pedophiles. And I

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Speaker 5: refuse to call them a cabal, because cabal implies that

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Speaker 5: they work in the shadows. They were not. The entire

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Speaker 5: ruling class knew this was going on openly.

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Speaker 4: By joking about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't care. Yeah, they think it's funny.

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Speaker 2: There's this exchange from twenty seventeen between Jeffrey and an

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Speaker 2: unknown individual where Jeffrey says, you are welcome at my

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Speaker 2: house always and more private. The prisoner's bonds very well.

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Speaker 2: Just send me the address again and the code to

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Speaker 2: the door so I can get to the second floor

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Speaker 2: and send me the day and time. Thanks, Jeffrey said

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Speaker 2: ten pm. Should I bring special cake from New York?

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Speaker 2: The unknown individual responded yes, and then once they arrived,

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Speaker 2: they sent the message quote I'm at the door, but

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Speaker 2: I will wait for my time. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: come early to find Trump in your house to laughing emojis,

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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 5: Christ.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And the reason they're doing this, right, the reason they're

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Speaker 5: they're so blatant about this reason. They all think it's

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Speaker 5: so funny. The reason they're just doing this over completely

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Speaker 5: unencrypted email in a way that like someone planning a

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Speaker 5: completely legal protest where you stand outside of a building

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Speaker 5: with signs right, would not plan it like this. So

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Speaker 5: the reason they're doing this is that these people and

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Speaker 5: men like them have been ruling this country for five

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Speaker 5: hundred years. In an uninterrupted line from Columbus's fucking crew

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Speaker 5: through on Hispaniola through Jefferson and Sally Hemming's like to

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Speaker 5: Epstein is an uninterrupted mine. They think that they are

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Speaker 2: for the Jeffrey Epstein story, CNN would be forced talk

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Speaker 2: about how Chuck Shue we're in. The Democrats got shellacked

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Speaker 2: by President Trump and Republicans in the government shut down fight.

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Speaker 2: It's clear this there's another Democrat and mainstream media hoax

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Speaker 2: fueled by fake outrage distract when the President's wins, Republicans

441
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Speaker 2: don't be fooled. President Trump will remain focused on making

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Speaker 2: America affordable again if not for the Jeffrey Epsteeth story.

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Speaker 2: If not, aren't we all saying that if the President

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Speaker 2: wasn't a pedophile, then everyone would love him.

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Speaker 3: If not for the child molestation, he'd be allowed to

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Speaker 3: live in this neighborhood.

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Speaker 4: I want to mention the Macon Kelly thing.

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Speaker 2: In terms of in terms of Republicans reacting to this

449
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Speaker 2: and trying to find a way to sort through. And

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Speaker 2: some of them are manufacturing like consent, like making Kelly here,

451
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Speaker 2: and others I think are quite ready to just throw

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Speaker 2: Trump to the wolves.

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Speaker 5: Frankly, Yeah, there's a so Megan Kelly, I'm not going

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Speaker 5: to play the clip from you all because having to

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Speaker 5: listen to Making Kelly's.

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Speaker 4: I've listened to four four hours to make and Kelly

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Speaker 4: this week.

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Speaker 5: Miya, Yeah, let's no more. But she has this whole

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Speaker 5: line about how she knows someone who's close to the

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Speaker 5: case and has all the details and that person thinks that, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: her exact quote is, I think there's a difference, a

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Speaker 5: difference between a fifteen year old and a five year old.

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Speaker 5: I mean she literally is talking about how, oh he

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Speaker 5: was into the he wasn't into four or five year olds.

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Speaker 5: He's talking about She says this and I quote barely

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Speaker 5: legal types, and then she says fourteen or fifteen, which.

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Speaker 4: No legal Just pause, pause right.

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Speaker 5: There, fourteen fifteen not legal. I think there was a

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Speaker 5: conversation to be had about descent to which the barely

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Speaker 5: legal like just turned eighteen. Shit is to a large

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Speaker 5: extent of product of like American pedophile culture and misogyny.

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Speaker 5: But like, those are fourteen and fifteen year olds, and

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Speaker 5: this is the like, you know, this, this is the

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Speaker 5: defense of these people are are dragging out for this,

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Speaker 5: which is that oh well he wasn't like literal like

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Speaker 5: like five year olds. So actually it's they're like they're

477
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Speaker 5: they're they're they're they're doing the libertarian thing. It's like,

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Speaker 5: isn't the be a file or whatever? The fuck?

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of this is also the result

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Speaker 2: of like the QAnon idea that like they're traffic four

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Speaker 2: year olds and like, no, this is mostly like really

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Speaker 2: young teenagers. That's mostly what these guys are into and

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Speaker 2: making Kelly specifically was talking about Epstein.

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Speaker 3: Is seven really young. They're six fifteen to seventeen year

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Speaker 3: old girls. Right. That's the part of the problem is

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Speaker 3: that a huge number of not just men, but largely

487
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Speaker 3: men in this country don't see fifteen to seventeen year

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Speaker 3: old girls as children.

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Speaker 5: Which they are. And yeah, that's really a pro Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's just struggling, just incredible structural misogyny, that's just yeah,

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Speaker 5: And so that's what they're sort of trying to bake

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Speaker 5: all of this stuff as now, and I guess we'll

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Speaker 5: see whether it works or not, just because Yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think this line from Megan Kelly is going to

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Speaker 2: be very successful on a large scale of but phobophelia.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's I don't think it's gonna work.

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Speaker 2: I I her motivations for this are I'm sure not great.

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Speaker 3: Now, you don't know that, Garrison, and I think.

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Speaker 2: It's on She is pulling from this like a QAnon

500
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Speaker 2: brain idea, right, that these are a whole bunch of

501
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Speaker 2: like basically infants.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, what else do you want to talk about?

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about January sixth and the terrorisms.

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Speaker 4: Sure, I love no either of those things.

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Speaker 3: I Garrison, you love terrorism.

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Speaker 2: I had a fun day, No, honestly, I had a

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Speaker 2: great January sixth.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 4: That was a really fun morning for me.

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Speaker 3: That was a hoot of a day. Boy, howdie when

511
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Speaker 3: they breached the capital doors? Great time? Well windows first,

512
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Speaker 3: but yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think you mean when the FBI breached the capital

514
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Speaker 4: doors for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So this all takes me to the sub stack

516
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Speaker 3: of a guy named Rod Dreyer. Rod is he wouldn't

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Speaker 3: call himself a fascist. But if you ever bring up

518
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Speaker 3: is this specific fascist from history bad, he'd say, well,

519
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Speaker 3: not compared to the communists they stopped, right, that's the

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Speaker 3: kind of conservative if that Rod is he's basically friends

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Speaker 3: with He's basically friends with Victor or Bid. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Didn't he just write a piece called our women ruining

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Speaker 5: the workplace?

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Speaker 3: He's written several like that, ye, because think he's just

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Speaker 3: like the piece I'm talking about was ago one he

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Speaker 3: came out with on November tenth called what I Saw

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Speaker 3: on Herd in Washington, and he was at a meeting

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Speaker 3: with President Vice President James Darryl Vance, not Dol. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: James Dolan Vance. That's a good James Dolan. You're a

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Speaker 3: real New Yorker. Now, Garet, are you pissed about the

531
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Speaker 3: Knicks permanently?

532
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Speaker 1: Now?

533
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Speaker 4: Basketball's too masculine for me.

534
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Speaker 3: So he came out with this article about this this

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Speaker 3: meeting that that Vance had with Victor Orbon and some

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Speaker 3: other Republican luminaries. And for a little bit of context,

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Speaker 3: Dreyer is again, you wouldn't call him an anti Trumper.

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Speaker 3: You'd call him a guy who thinks that Trump is

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Speaker 3: going to doom the right and doom the right to

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Speaker 3: fascism unless jd Vance can save them. He actually has

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Speaker 3: a recent His most recent column is basically jd Vance

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Speaker 3: is the only person who can save the right wing

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Speaker 3: from fascism. And here's a weird dude who like reads

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Speaker 3: a lot of Hannah a Rent but absolutely does not

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Speaker 3: understand her. But this article of his based on this

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Speaker 3: meeting is useful for a couple a couple of reasons.

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Speaker 3: One that I'm sure Gary and I will talk about

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Speaker 3: more detail later is Dreyer estimates in here that thirty

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Speaker 3: to forty percent of these zoomers who are working for

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Speaker 3: the Republican Party in DC are gropers aka fans of Holocaust.

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Speaker 3: And I are and true true? Yeah? Is that? What

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Speaker 3: is that what eugen z kids are saying for? Truth? Garrison? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's okay, okay, that's truth. I can't keep it a

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Speaker 3: great deep track of that's shit anymore?

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Speaker 1: Truth nuke Great, Now.

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Speaker 3: That makes sense, Duke.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, they're all gropers, or at least forty percent are.

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Speaker 3: Thirty thirty forty percent? And I actually eat number one

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Speaker 3: he Dreyer. He's not someone that I I think just

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Speaker 3: makes up nonsense. I think he's like wrong because his

561
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Speaker 3: brain is bad. But I I he provides some backup,

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Speaker 3: including interviews and conversations he had for this, and this

563
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Speaker 3: is consistent with other information coming out of the Beltwegh.

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Speaker 3: I think he's probably pretty close to the accurate number here, right,

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Speaker 3: thirty to forty percent seems believable. Gare, I think you're

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Speaker 3: more or less in the same area there.

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Speaker 1: Garrison is thirty Toro Bay.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's yes, that's that's what I meant, James, thank

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Speaker 3: you for the most charitable reading of my sentence there. Now,

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Speaker 3: the thing that I thought was the other thing that

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Speaker 3: I thought was interesting from this article is because he's

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Speaker 3: he's trying to talk about why the media, which he

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Speaker 3: sees as an inherently left wing organization, even though we

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Speaker 3: just talked about all of the carrying water for Jeffrey

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Speaker 3: Epstein while attacking trans people, shit they.

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Speaker 2: Did, it's it's it's it's a it's a right wing

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Speaker 2: slash liberal organization.

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Speaker 3: I would would, yeah, you have to, you have to

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Speaker 3: get over some of his aspects of phrasing. But he's

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Speaker 3: talking about why. One of some of the reasons why

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Speaker 3: he thinks that the institutions in our society, like Zoomers

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Speaker 3: do not trust them. And this is where I think

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Speaker 3: he's on the money, because I think that the reason

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Speaker 3: why so many gen Z Republicans, like Republican staffers, ares

585
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Speaker 3: is what he gets at, which is that they're having

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Speaker 3: the same problem as the rest of gen Z. They're

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Speaker 3: just approaching it from a fascist standpoint. But they all

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Speaker 3: are starting from the same point, which is I'm fucked.

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Speaker 3: My generation is fucked. Yeah, there's no jobs, I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to own a house. The climate is screwed. Like

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Speaker 3: they're blaming the Jews for it, but they're they're starting

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Speaker 3: at the same place.

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Speaker 2: It's school shooter politics, right, school shooter politics. Yes, some

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Speaker 2: people understand this and they decide to do a school shooting.

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Speaker 2: These guys decide to get jobs in Washington. Yes, but

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Speaker 2: it's the same psychea behind the mechanism.

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Speaker 3: Exactly right. And I'm going to read a quote from

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Speaker 3: Drer's article and then we'll move past him to the

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Speaker 3: primary thing I wanted to talk about here, and this

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Speaker 3: is him talking about, you know, why these Zoomers don't

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Speaker 3: trust the system and want to destroy everything the institutions

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Speaker 3: of our society as they see it have lied and

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Speaker 3: light and light and still lie. They still lie in

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Speaker 3: many ways about race, refusing to be honest about black crime.

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Speaker 3: They lie about COVID, They lied about males and females,

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Speaker 3: and they force the insanity of gender ideology on us.

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Speaker 3: All the military light about a rock. The university is

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Speaker 3: in bra just the military, just the military rod. The

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Speaker 3: universities embraced in enforced ideologies of lies. The Catholic Church

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Speaker 3: lie about sexual abuse and the connection to the prevalence

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Speaker 3: of sexually active gay priests. Exactly is that the problem?

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Speaker 3: Honeycomming institution. They light about the benefits of mass migration

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Speaker 3: and diversity. They light about Trump and Russia. They sure didn't.

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Speaker 3: The political parties in their corporate allies light about what

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Speaker 3: global is being for ordinary people. The media have lied,

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Speaker 3: and they do lie about most things. This past weekend,

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Speaker 3: everybody was talking about the new report in Blaze Media

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Speaker 3: alleging that the mysterious January sixth pipe bomber was in

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Speaker 3: fact a former Capitol Police officer, the implications being that

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Speaker 3: the whole event was orchestrated by the deep state to

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Speaker 3: discredit Donald Trump. Maybe mainstream media are busy trying to

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Speaker 3: validate this reporting on their own. If The Blaze has

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Speaker 3: this wrong, they're going to be suited to oblivion, and

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Speaker 3: so will all the other media who amplify a false charge.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you that.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: All I can tell you is that nobody in the

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Speaker 3: MSM are talking about it as I write it, even

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Speaker 3: though it is an explosive story. People were in fact

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Speaker 3: talking about it. Yeah, And in fact, before we could

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Speaker 3: do this episode, The Bulwark, which has a both a

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Speaker 3: website with articles and is a podcast network, came up

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Speaker 3: with an article by Will Sommer, who used to write

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Speaker 3: for The Journalists. Yeah, good journalist. We took a billing

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Speaker 3: hat classicgether. I believe it was the post that he

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Speaker 3: wrote for at the time. He was like one of

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Speaker 3: the leading QAnon experts for years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're student Daddy beastssing for a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Daily Beast is I think where I knew him from.

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Speaker 3: And he wrote a really good article called the Blazes

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Speaker 3: pipe on Bombshell appears to bomb and basically Dreer says here,

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Speaker 3: well if the bit if the Blaze is wrong, we'll

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Speaker 3: be soon do oblivion. And the short answer is yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think yeah, because they absolutely named this lady and

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Speaker 3: the Capitol Police. To make a long story short, if

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Speaker 3: you don't want to read the whole Blaze article, you

647
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Speaker 3: can read the piece on the bulwark. You can read

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Speaker 3: the sections of it, or you can type the link

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Speaker 3: to the Blaze article into like archive dot org, so

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Speaker 3: you don't give him traffic if you want. It's not good.

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Speaker 3: It's the entire their entire claims that this particular woman,

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Speaker 3: and I am not going to name this woman because

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Speaker 3: I don't think she's the bomber.

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Speaker 1: I don't think.

655
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Speaker 3: People as being a terrorist if you're not sure they were.

656
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 3: I will say that she's a woman, and that she's

657
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Speaker 3: a Capitol Police officer, or at least now a former

658
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Speaker 3: Capitol Police officer who is kind of insinuated by the

659
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Speaker 3: Blaze and has been absolutely taken up by the right

660
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: wing media immediately since to be a Now she got

661
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: poached by the CIA right and that's taken as like

662
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Speaker 3: proof that she definitely did this. She's a security guard

663
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Speaker 3: at the CIA's office. She's not a CIA I'm sorry, guys.

664
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Speaker 3: She's a rent to cop for the CIA, which is,

665
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Speaker 3: let's be fair, probably the highest rung of rent to cop. Sure,

666
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Speaker 3: like you know, you're taking a step up as a

667
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 3: rent to cop, but she's not. She's not out there

668
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Speaker 3: over throwing democracies yet. I don't know. Maybe they fast

669
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Speaker 3: track you once you're CIA enough. But so the whole

670
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 3: claim that the Blaze is staking the reputation on because

671
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: if you're paying attention to like info wars, well not

672
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: reputation their financial solvency because info wars currently owes like

673
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: a billion and a half dollars for wrongly accusing people

674
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Speaker 3: of having faked mass shootings and the deaths of their

675
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Speaker 3: own children. So their argument that this lady has to

676
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Speaker 3: be it is based on they have some old footage

677
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Speaker 3: of her, like the jogging track, and there's a couple

678
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Speaker 3: of clips from the drug rep they showed. But they're

679
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Speaker 3: claiming that this gate analysis that they did between the

680
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Speaker 3: Capitol bomber and this woman is based on footage of

681
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Speaker 3: her that they are not publishing publicly. That's good so

682
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: that you can verify it. But that they say is

683
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Speaker 3: ninety four percent. And they talk to a Gaate analysis

684
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Speaker 3: expert and he did a personal Gate analysis and he

685
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Speaker 3: said it had be more like ninety eight percent. So

686
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: that means basically it definitely was her because gaate analysis

687
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: is for sure real and not one of the Every

688
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 3: kind of forensic science is a lie, lie.

689
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Speaker 1: It's not even very good for flying shoes convicting. We

690
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: have fear review data to show that you shouldn't choose

691
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Speaker 1: your running shoes of gay analysis, let alone fucking.

692
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, there's many articles about how it may not

693
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Speaker 3: be the future of the shoe in stimula, shouldn't be

694
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Speaker 3: hinging your publications survival. I'm getting right that somebody was

695
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Speaker 3: a bomber bag.

696
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Speaker 2: This is this is just the latest attempt by the

697
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: right to run this whole J six false flag conspiracy,

698
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: which is picking up a lot of steam. Like a

699
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: few months ago, the FBI released some information on how

700
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Speaker 2: many agents they had in the area during January sixth,

701
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 2: and this led many many conservative commentators to believe, Oh, look,

702
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: the FBI had just admitted that it was their agents

703
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Speaker 2: that actually started the riot and was most of the

704
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: like rowdy, rambunctious crew members and no, the specific wording

705
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Speaker 2: on the announcement or statement regarding the presence of agents

706
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Speaker 2: at J six was after after the insurrection had already

707
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: started and agents were sent there to keep it under control.

708
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Speaker 2: That's what it's referring to and cash Hotel released a

709
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 2: statement days later clarifying this, but of course that doesn't

710
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 2: pick up nearly as much traction as the original claims were.

711
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: So this whole gain analysis thing is continuing on this,

712
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: this whole conspiracy theory about how the FBI and the

713
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: CIA staged all of January sixth to crush Trump and

714
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Speaker 2: remove him from power, and probably warrants of a future

715
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: episode just on January sixth conspiracy theory instead of propagated

716
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Speaker 2: the past few months.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we probably, I mean honestly, yes, but okay,

718
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Speaker 3: to continue with this. So gain analysis was half of

719
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Speaker 3: what their case lay on. The other half of the

720
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Speaker 3: case was interviews with a couple of different people, primarily

721
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Speaker 3: an FBI whistleblower, a former FBI agent who made a

722
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Speaker 3: claim that like, yeah, we tied the woman this officers

723
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Speaker 3: neighbor to a vehicle that like picked up the bomber.

724
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Speaker 3: This is not based on publicly available information. This is

725
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Speaker 3: based on the statements made by former FBI agent Kyle Saraphim,

726
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Speaker 3: who is now a right wing media personality. Of course,

727
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: and we're just trusting that this guy who is former

728
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: FBI agent trying to rebrand himself as an influencer, is

729
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: telling us the truth about all of this stuff that

730
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Speaker 3: they're not presenting us with. This is this is kind

731
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Speaker 3: of dressed up as ocent, but they're not actually providing

732
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Speaker 3: you with the information.

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Speaker 4: There's no actual open source intelligence.

734
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Speaker 3: You can't work back from there because they're hiding a

735
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Speaker 3: lot of stuff. Right. There's a couple other things that

736
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Speaker 3: Somber notes and his article here to make their case

737
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Speaker 3: against the former Capitol police officer Baker is. The author

738
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Speaker 3: and co author Joseph H. Hannaman focused on a comparison

739
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Speaker 3: between the officers Gates, some of which was apparently captured

740
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Speaker 3: in years old footage of her playing soccer and footage

741
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Speaker 3: of the pipeop such from the night of January fifth.

742
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Speaker 3: Instead of using suspect footage released by the FBI, however,

743
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Speaker 3: the Blaze claims that use footage from another source the

744
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: article doesn't name. Critically, the Blaze didn't release an actual

745
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 3: video comparison or significant details with the Gate analysis. Instead,

746
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: it draws on the work of a man the Blaze

747
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: called a video sleuth, a little known X user named Armatas,

748
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Speaker 3: whose online profile image is a picture from the nineteen

749
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Speaker 3: ninety eight role playing video game Zeno Gears.

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Speaker 4: Hell, yeah, Zeno Gears, great twigs Net video game.

751
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Speaker 3: Yeah, You're not gonna get sued into oblivion for this shit.

752
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Speaker 3: The Blaze, I'm proud of you. Guys.

753
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Speaker 1: Don't believe the people who published vance Bolt's probably last

754
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Speaker 1: interview would do this.

755
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Speaker 3: Yeah, shocking, shocking stuff. Now, to be again totally fair here,

756
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Speaker 3: Dreyer does not treat this with any sort of critical

757
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 3: thought whatsoever. But actually a bunch of the people critiquing

758
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Speaker 3: this have been on the right, and I w I

759
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: partially agree with Drere's I think it's a mistake that

760
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Speaker 3: the mainstream media has not dedicated more effort to busting

761
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Speaker 3: this immediately and to pointing out the weaknesses and stuff

762
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Speaker 3: like Gate analysis immediately out the Gate. So it does

763
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Speaker 3: kind of sound like ignoring it. I think they're largely

764
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Speaker 3: I think largely this isn't getting covered because it's so

765
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Speaker 3: shady and bad and because it's dangerous to spread these

766
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Speaker 3: kinds of claims about a person.

767
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Speaker 4: Sure, I mean, yeah, it's like it's like The Blaze.

768
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Speaker 3: It's not even Fox News, right, there's already law enforcement

769
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Speaker 3: station outside this woman's house. Because of the number of

770
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Speaker 3: threats that you see, right, like, like again, there's she

771
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 3: has ample claims for damages here.

772
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

773
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Speaker 3: So a couple of the people who have come after,

774
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Speaker 3: one of them is after this article. One of them

775
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Speaker 3: is Julie Kelly, who's a right wing media figure and

776
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Speaker 3: is a major force in the January sixth conspiracy theory world.

777
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Speaker 3: And she is largely attacking the Blaze because she's doing

778
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Speaker 3: her own investigation into the who did the pipe bombing? Right,

779
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: So she's she's pointed out some very obvious problems. Why

780
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: don't you post that other video you have, right, why

781
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: don't you show the evidence of the gate analysis? Right?

782
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Speaker 3: So she she's been attacking this, as has Joe Hoff,

783
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 3: who's co founder of the Gateway Pundit. Hell yeah, oh god, yeah, yeah,

784
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 3: great stuff. So there's people on the right talking shit

785
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 3: about this stuff. It's worth noting that when this initially

786
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 3: came out, Glenn Beck spent days beforehand hyping it up

787
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Speaker 3: and talking about how like this is the biggest I

788
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Speaker 3: think that he literally called it like the biggest conspiracy

789
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Speaker 3: in American history maybe, which is like Jesus Christ dream smaller.

790
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Speaker 4: Come on, dude.

791
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Speaker 3: Yeah, But within like a day of the article actually

792
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 3: coming out, the Blaze added an editor's note is wrong,

793
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 3: which is pretty damning. An earlier version of this story

794
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: said it appeared the bombing suspect interacted with police after publication.

795
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Speaker 3: A congressional investigator with access to a camera angle that

796
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Speaker 3: has not been made public reached out and told Blaze

797
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Speaker 3: News a person similarly attired to the suspected bomber who

798
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Speaker 3: comes out of the alley and crosses the street towards

799
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Speaker 3: the two Capitol police vehicles is not the same person

800
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Speaker 3: as the hoodie clad pipe bom suspect walking down the

801
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Speaker 3: alley just minutes earlier.

802
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Speaker 5: Amazing wouldn't there gata.

803
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Speaker 4: Analysis have shown that amazing work?

804
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Speaker 3: Wouldn't you have known that if gata analysis.

805
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Speaker 2: Was the was like, you can't rely on gain analysis

806
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: to identify individuals.

807
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like this is all bullshit anyway. I

808
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: largely did this just because fuck you, Rod Dreer. I like,

809
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: we covered this stupid ass story. Will Sommer covered this

810
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 3: stupid ass story and we made fun of it. Thank you, Will,

811
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Speaker 3: Thank you the Bulwark. This is what I've got. I've done.

812
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Speaker 2: That Dreer piece is also crazy and just in surreal,

813
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 2: surreal because of how much of it is like talking

814
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Speaker 2: about how we as in the right, needs to like

815
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: re recalibrate, how we discuss the reality of like complete

816
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: Jewish control over our media, and how it's fine actually

817
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: because a whole bunch of various like ethnicities excel in

818
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: various skills and that's not weird. So it's not weird

819
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: that Jews control all the media. We shouldn't be worried

820
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Speaker 2: about this. And how much of that piece skills like

821
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Speaker 2: it could have been written in like the nineteen twenties. Yes,

822
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Speaker 2: it's a crazy time, capsules, Yep. Anyway, that's my opinions

823
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Speaker 2: on the tree or substack piece anti semitism, for anti semitism,

824
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Speaker 2: it's a great time. I mean sure, I mean you

825
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Speaker 2: could have a I would have a slightly more complicated

826
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Speaker 2: analysis of the piece than just anti semitism, because True

827
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Speaker 2: approaches that issue really oddly.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's anti Semitic.

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Speaker 1: Frankly, I don't think he thinks he's anti semitic.

830
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Speaker 5: I don't think he thinks he is. Yeah, but it's

831
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Speaker 5: like I think that there's a difference between what he

832
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Speaker 5: believes about himself of what he's trying to do and

833
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Speaker 5: what he is doing.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, sure, I mean I mean even even in

835
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Speaker 2: the way that the article is written, and like a

836
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Speaker 2: lot lot of it is. Yeah, I mean attacking a

837
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Speaker 2: certain type of anti Semitism on the right.

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Speaker 3: Well, you guys know what Rod Dreyer would hate. Other

839
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Speaker 3: than an editor.

840
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Speaker 4: I think he would actually love some acts.

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Speaker 1: God, all right, we are back and we're going to

842
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Speaker 1: do some very brief immigration stuff and then we will

843
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Speaker 1: play the song you've all been waiting for and be

844
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Speaker 1: able to talk to you. The United States Conference of

845
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Speaker 1: Catholic Bishops based based basically thank you, gare issue a

846
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Speaker 1: statement this week. It's about the strongest condemnation you're going

847
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Speaker 1: to see from this entity of anything in a political realm. Right.

848
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Speaker 4: HOPEFULLYO has not been solved on this issue.

849
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Speaker 1: No, yeah, he is. And like we saw it, like

850
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Speaker 1: with Bishop farm in San Diego, right, like who himself

851
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Speaker 1: arrived as in what they call an unaccompanied minor, right,

852
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Speaker 1: a child refugee. I'm going to read from the statement quote,

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Speaker 1: we are disturbed when we see among our people a

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Speaker 1: climate of fear and anxiety around questions of profiling and

855
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Speaker 1: immigration enforcement. We are saddened by the state of contemporary

856
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Speaker 1: debate and the verification of migrants. We are concerned about

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Speaker 1: the conditions and detention centers and the lack of access

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Speaker 1: to pastor or care. We lament that some immigrant in

859
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Speaker 1: the United States barbitrarily lost their legal status. We are

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Speaker 1: troubled by threats against the sanctity of houses of worship

861
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Speaker 1: and a special nature of hospitals and schools. We are

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Speaker 1: grieved when we need parents who fear being detained when

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Speaker 1: taking their children to school, when we try to console

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Speaker 1: family members who have already been separated from their loved ones.

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Speaker 2: This isn't a usual based based, based, based, based based.

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Speaker 1: Garrison has got a got a crucifix. I guess they

867
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Speaker 1: haven't done this for like twelve years. Right last time

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Speaker 1: they did it about contraception. I'm not saying a Catholic

869
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: church is an organization that I agree with all the time.

870
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: It's not. It's one that I disagree with most of

871
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: the time. But I still think this is important, right, Like,

872
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: this is an organization which has millions of followers in

873
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: the United States, many many Catholics around the world, a

874
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: lot of Catholics. Yeah, this is an organization which therefore

875
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: we should pay attention to right. Uh, and I think

876
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: it is telling that, yeah, the work Pope has not

877
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: stop with this and that it seems like the fast

878
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: madiority of bishops in the United States are on his side.

879
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 4: No, it's it is.

880
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: It is pretty funny we have like a never Trumper,

881
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: nominally conservative, woke pope and the fact that he will

882
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: not black down on this issue and has has actually

883
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: has a number of statements on this the past the

884
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: past few weeks and not.

885
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 4: Softly worded statements either.

886
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: Catholic priests have also been reasonably good on this issue.

887
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's important, especially because of how much these like

888
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: weird like fascist friendly trads are using Catholicism as like

889
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: a fashion statement.

890
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 4: And Jdvans included.

891
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna say our vice president have.

892
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 2: The actual church be like frity freaked out by that.

893
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 4: I think is good.

894
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 2: It'd be worse if they were leaning into it, which

895
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: certainly some cardinals like want when they were doing their selection.

896
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: Well, if you look at the votes in this issue, right,

897
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: like two hundred and sixteen votes in favor of five

898
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: against the three ebstentions, so among bishops, which is think

899
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: from cardinals, Like this is this is almost universal, right,

900
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: and yet given that our vice president has made being

901
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: an adult convert to Catholicism a large part of his

902
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: personality embarrassing. Yeah, this is like, it is remarkable. It's

903
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: worth paying attention to. Also, I think when I talk

904
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: to migrants specifically, like when I was in the Darien

905
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: Gap talking to migrants, their faith is massively important to

906
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: so many of them, and a lot of people, especially

907
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: coming from south of Central America, will be Catholic, right,

908
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: and that is what propels them through, and so for

909
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: them to feel that the Church has not abandoned them,

910
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: it is important to them.

911
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

912
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: The thing when I speak to people now who are here,

913
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: the thing that they want more than anything is a

914
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: priest to come to their hearing, to their meeting with them,

915
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: Like that is what makes them feel safe. And so

916
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: I am happy that the church is continuing to try

917
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: and make them.

918
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: Feel safe, because what else are you going to do? Right?

919
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we're trying everything else and it's not.

920
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I defer to what will make the person being

921
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: victimized feel better and basically all instances, and if it's

922
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 3: half like a priest along, then I'm glad the priest

923
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: is there.

924
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I am happy that this is something that

925
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: can make them feel safer.

926
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 4: Because critical support to the Catholic church.

927
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, very critical.

928
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 5: Well, emphasis on the critical part, I think. I think

929
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 5: the other thing is worth noting that this same conference

930
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 5: also voted to have an official ban on any gender

931
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 5: affirming Catholic hospitals, which is like one in seven of

932
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 5: all people in the US get their care at Catholic

933
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 5: hospitals because there's a million of them, so critical, Yeah,

934
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 5: like lots of they're not Yeah, look there they are.

935
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 4: No Protestants.

936
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: Okay, it does feel bad to have so much Catholic

937
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: praise on the show, but you know, I will swallow

938
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: my Protestant prize here.

939
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

940
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm neither a Catholic nor Protestant, but I'm glad this

941
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: is happening. You're British, yes, so you not raddled the two.

942
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: Do we do Catholicism without popes?

943
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 2: I think we should have popes without See that's interesting, Robert,

944
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 2: that's an interesting idea.

945
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 3: That's Discordianism.

946
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, well yeah, that's kind of the least

947
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: interesting version. A real kind of non Catholic like clerical class. Anyway,

948
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put this down in my.

949
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 3: Sci fi novel folder.

950
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 4: You know, stock is a forum of you.

951
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: Know, Adam just just just gradually reduced the volume we're

952
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: going to get. We're back to immigration. We did learn

953
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: this week that the Department of Home ad Security secretly

954
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: and illegally kept domestic data on nine hundred Chicago Land

955
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: residents under Biden, just in case anyone was wondering what

956
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: they were doing before people started paying attention to them.

957
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: They also quote irrevocably destroyed video for me inside a

958
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: broad view, which is an ice tendin facility in Chicago Land.

959
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course did.

960
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm not shocked by that, I will say, like I

961
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: would have been shocked if that had happened under a

962
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: previous administration. Put it that way, like, it's not massively

963
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: out of character for them to be incompetent at soaring

964
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: and this kind of thing. And Ken Paxton has attempted

965
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: to sue Harris County, a place in Texas, for donating

966
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 1: not to nonprofits to provide a legal aid to migrants.

967
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: He has some justification to this, which is theater careers.

968
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: But I'm just going to name a few of the ngngos,

969
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: here Gals and Houston Immigrant Representation Project, Kids in Needed Defense,

970
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:42,479
Speaker 1: Justice for All Immigrants, but Asis and Baker Ripley, Yeah,

971
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 1: this does I think show part of the strategy which

972
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: we saw and we have seen since twenty eighteen. Right,

973
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: Like you'll remember that lets of Angelo volunteers and twenty

974
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: eighteen were placed on a watch list, as were many

975
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: journalists for crossing to cover the migrant caravan. But this

976
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: I did that The n g os are quote aiding

977
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: and am betting is a phrase you always see, right

978
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: like that that that somehow people would come here if

979
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't for NGOs. Often this takes on a specific

980
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: form of blaming one n g O, which is highest

981
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: or he Us Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society.

982
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: Right and well if you're one, guess as to why

983
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: they blame that one.

984
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like repeat guest of the show Anti Semitism

985
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: coming back again, which resulted directly in the in the

986
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: Tree of Life shooting, right, Like this is that same

987
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: intellectual family of thought. I guess that is what I

988
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: will say as ludicrous. People come here because their lives

989
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: are not Liverpool where they're at. That's what I got.

990
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: Play the song.

991
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 6: Jazz jazz.

992
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 5: All right, so there is actually a surprising amount of

993
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 5: tariff news. All right, the tariff freebate checks. Are we

994
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 5: getting tariff freebate checks? I think probably not? So what

995
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 5: is this? Trump started talking about this on November eighth

996
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 5: on True Social per QSA. Today he truthed, I refuse

997
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 5: to call it truth. I am recommending to Senate Republicans

998
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 5: that the hundreds of billions of dollars is the hundreds

999
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 5: of billions are capitalized for reasons that are baffling, currently

1000
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 5: being sent to money sucking insurance companies in order to

1001
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 5: save the bad healthcare provided by Obamacare be directly sent

1002
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 5: to the people so that they can purchase their own healthcare,

1003
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 5: their own much better health care. And so originally this

1004
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 5: was going to be like a two thousand dollars thing

1005
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 5: to your health savings account from tariff proceeds or something.

1006
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 5: And then the second time he stopped talking about the

1007
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 5: health savings account stuff, and he was just saying a

1008
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 5: two thousand dollars check the USA today. The piece notes

1009
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 5: that the Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Bessett, said and

1010
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 5: ABC News on November ninth, which was Sunday, that Trump's

1011
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 5: proposed tariff dividend quote could come in a lot of forms,

1012
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 5: adding it could just be the tax decreases that we

1013
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 5: are seeing on the president's agenda. No tax on tips,

1014
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 5: no tax in overtime, no taxes, social security, deductibility of

1015
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 5: auto loans. He said, So those are substantial deductions that

1016
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 5: are being financed to the tax bill. So he apparently

1017
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 5: like hadn't heard any of this is what it seems like.

1018
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 5: And then a few days later this was this was yesterday.

1019
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 5: On Wednesday the twelfth, Caroline Levitt, who's the ghoulish press secretary,

1020
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 5: said that Trump is quote committed to the payments, So

1021
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 5: who knows.

1022
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: You can't call her goulish just because she's a twenty

1023
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: seven year a woman who looks like that, and ya,

1024
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: that's not cool.

1025
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 5: Hey, you know what, We're not gonna working, We're not

1026
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 5: gonna do this. But she she she is ghoulish, not

1027
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 5: because she looks like she's forty and she's like a ghoul,

1028
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 5: but like no, but like she also acts like a

1029
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 5: ghoul constantly, which is the actual thing that she is

1030
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 5: ghoulish for.

1031
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 2: Right, every press secretary I've ever seen has made me

1032
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: so mad, like the job of a press secretary is infuriating.

1033
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember thesak bonds.

1034
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 4: Well, also like they've never been good.

1035
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 5: They also did used to be more normal than this,

1036
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 5: Like they didn't used to be this unhinted.

1037
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Biden didn't bring him back. I feel like

1038
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: like like the first Trump had been moved to a

1039
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: mini a certain way.

1040
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 5: Too. It's just awful, terrible stuff. Didn't used to be

1041
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 5: like this. One are the few things I'll ever say

1042
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 5: that anyway. As you were saying, yeah, so so, she

1043
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 5: said that Trump is committed to the payments. I again,

1044
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 5: I don't think we're gonna see this probably not definitely,

1045
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 5: don't plan on having an x two thousand dollars.

1046
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's committed to the payments

1047
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 2: as much as he is his like first or second wife.

1048
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, which is not much so. The second, the second

1049
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 5: incredibly important piece of tariff news is the pasta tariffs.

1050
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 5: The Department of Commerce seven percent pasta tariffs on imported

1051
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 5: Italian pasta garrison.

1052
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 3: It's fine, the first tariff. It's still available. You can

1053
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 3: still get your mac you know.

1054
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 5: As as as the Guardian points out, most pasta in

1055
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 5: the US is made in the US, so it's not

1056
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 5: really affected by.

1057
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 4: Those hold on, hold on, let me let me allow

1058
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 4: me to finish the sentence.

1059
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 5: Garrison, I will address.

1060
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: Hu.

1061
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,720
Speaker 5: So it's it's mostly just gluten. It's mostly gluten free pasta.

1062
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 5: And also like imported fancy pasta, which is like nice

1063
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 5: little pasta.

1064
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 4: Well fancy is a bit of Okay, it's like two

1065
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 4: dollars more.

1066
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: Okay, attack some pretension, you know, and so.

1067
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 5: This but this sucks for people who like pasta, that's good.

1068
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 5: And also for people who are loot to gluten or

1069
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 5: who just are trying to reduce the amount of and

1070
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 5: they're eating for diabetic reasons, et cetera, et cetera. That

1071
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 5: all really sucks. In that same piece, Yeah, that same

1072
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 5: Guardian piece, the unbelievably named Scott Ketchum, who is the

1073
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 5: founder of like an artismal.

1074
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 3: Ketcham is a real last name. That's why the Pokemon game.

1075
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: Is ida Scott.

1076
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 4: I don't understand why Ketchum is funny? Why Ketchum funny?

1077
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 3: Did you not play the Pokemon to.

1078
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 5: No? Also, also it's so close to being ketchup and

1079
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 5: I think about okay, think about Italian pasta.

1080
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: Whatever, Okay, you put ketchup on Italian pasta?

1081
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 4: Interesting, No, but you do you know who does do this?

1082
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 4: Chinese hotels.

1083
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 5: In two thousand and nine, the thing I discovered when they,

1084
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 5: for some reason fed us tried to feed us American

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Speaker 5: food instead of feeding us Chinese food, and dear god,

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Speaker 5: awful zero attest.

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Speaker 3: My favorite thing in any foreign country is when they're like,

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Speaker 3: I know what you want. You came to Grease to

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Speaker 3: eat it, TGI Fridays, didn't you?

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Speaker 2: Burger is all over Berlin. Burger's not America, and it

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Speaker 2: is now.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he'd be disappointed to Garson if you

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Speaker 1: knew how many people in continental Europe or eating pasta

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Speaker 1: and catch up on a daily basis brown sugar.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Europeans are. Europeans are obviously sick.

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Speaker 1: You've been to Belgium.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's wrong, I have Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Okay, locking locking back in, locking back in on the past.

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Speaker 5: Anarchist cafe was closed two pm. Those lazy words. God,

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Speaker 5: look a look at the conditions that happened to with

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Speaker 5: every and I mentioned inflation. Out came the inflation joke.

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Speaker 5: Kerry Talmer's trying to finish it as what pasta God okay,

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Speaker 5: finishing this. Scott Ketchum agrees that the manufacturers will quote

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Speaker 5: take advantage of the news and slightly raise their prices.

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Speaker 5: That's just business, he said, So this actually probably will

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Speaker 5: increase pasta prices across the board because they'll uses as

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Speaker 5: justification for raising prices.

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Speaker 1: Canonically, how old is Ashketcher. I'm trying to work out

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Speaker 1: of this is a sibling, since.

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Speaker 5: It's like he's been like thirteen for no, but he's

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Speaker 5: been thirteen for these entirely, Like.

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Speaker 1: So we can think siblings more than parents.

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Speaker 4: Fstein's dream.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm okay. Ash Kitchen's brother put it in the law.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, okay, okay, two more things. Two more

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Speaker 5: things they got to get there, I threw out to god, okay,

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Speaker 5: one fifty year mortgage. Trump has become obsessed with the

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Speaker 5: idea of fifty year mortgage is just an idea, so

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Speaker 5: unhinged I have any Republicans talk about positively. The mortgage

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Speaker 5: industry is like, don't do this. This is a bad idea.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to read the full paragraph I had

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Speaker 5: here from CNN, but you know, CNN did a very

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Speaker 5: basic calculation of instead of a thirty year fixed mortgage,

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Speaker 5: a fifty year fixed mortgage. So the basically their calculation

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Speaker 5: on like a four hundred and fifty thousand dollars house

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Speaker 5: was that you would save about three hundred dollars a monthechnically,

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Speaker 5: but over the course of the loan, instead of spending

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Speaker 5: about five hundred and fifty thousand dollars in interest, you

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Speaker 5: would spend a million dollars in interest.

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Speaker 1: And that's pools. Yeah, rue, that's how we save money

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Speaker 1: by give me half a million dollars to the bank.

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Speaker 3: Well, hey, you're not even talking about the fifteen neur

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Speaker 3: auto loans. Yeah. Everyone who buys a Kiya can trust

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Speaker 3: that it will keep working for fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: He's going to say he's driving.

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Speaker 5: How worn't lasting fifty years? They're made like cardboard, right,

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Speaker 5: Like they're just more than twice the value of the

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Speaker 5: house in interest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, make America affordable again? Yeah, okay, unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: And then finally I want to close with what is

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Speaker 5: actually going on with the jobs and inflation numbers for October,

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Speaker 5: because I think people are getting a lot of very

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Speaker 5: bad information about this. I mean, and it's not their fault.

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Speaker 5: It's again because.

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Speaker 2: The Democrat shutdown made it impossible to get any reliable data,

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Speaker 2: so now we can never have data ever again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so okay, okay, so let's let's let's let let's

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Speaker 5: go into like what is it? What is actually going

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Speaker 5: on here? So on Wednesday, Caroline Levitt said that we

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Speaker 5: might not ever get October the October jobs and inflation data. Oops.

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Speaker 4: So however, Comma, I'm sure this number is would have

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Speaker 4: been five Comma.

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Speaker 1: Let's fair it hallowed bump would have been huge Comma.

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Speaker 5: On Thursday, National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett, who by

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Speaker 5: the way, is the guy whose whole thing is that

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Speaker 5: he wants to he wants to impose taxes on holding

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Speaker 5: US bonds the worst, said maybe the only idea I've

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Speaker 5: ever seen fifty year mortgage. Astonishingly bad ideas. But he

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Speaker 5: said on Fox News this is today as day of recording,

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Speaker 5: said on Fox News that we're going to get some

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Speaker 5: of the data, but the data we're supposed to get

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Speaker 5: is very weird. Now, so this is the September data

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Speaker 5: we're supposed to get next week because that was already

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Speaker 5: recorded before the before they got mentioned, right, Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: there is legitimately even in a sort of not if

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Speaker 5: a normal Bureau of Labors toatistics was trying to get

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Speaker 5: these statistics out, it would be a little difficult for them. However,

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Speaker 5: come we're only getting the jobs added numbers and not

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Speaker 5: the job lost numbers.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, wow, good brides.

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Speaker 1: What a great strategy.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm sure that I'm sure that number is fine.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's not negative seventy thousand jobs or something.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Right, And you know, and apparently that's because the survey,

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Speaker 5: the collected information never went out and I I mean,

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Speaker 5: it probably didn't because of the shutdown, but also like

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Speaker 5: you could, you could work this out. They're just not

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Speaker 5: doing yet. We talked a few months ago about Trump's

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Speaker 5: attempt to take over the Buera of Labor statistics, which

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Speaker 5: with his attempt to install the hideously incompetent Heritage Foundation

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Speaker 5: economists and I use that term very loosely here EJ

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Speaker 5: and TONI. And Trump was actually forced to like pull

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Speaker 5: back on installing this guy who's ahead of a buer

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Speaker 5: of labor satistics. So it's being run by the interim

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Speaker 5: head and has been for a long time now, but

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Speaker 5: it seems like a there's conflicting information going out and

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Speaker 5: be it does seem like Trump has been able to

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Speaker 5: get a decent amount of control over the beer of Libortistics,

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Speaker 5: which is supposed to be a nonpartisan body that just

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Speaker 5: releases the data because everyone in the entire coples economy

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Speaker 5: reclied relies on it. And it is possible that this

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Speaker 5: is that we have already gotten our last unbrigged like

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Speaker 5: peer labor statistics reports. I mean, I can't confirm that

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Speaker 5: they're straight up breaking it. And it's also possible that oh, well,

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Speaker 5: this wasn't the product of that, and we are going

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Speaker 5: to get some of the data like we are supposed

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Speaker 5: to get inflation numbers, but it's not good. Oops.

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Speaker 2: Well to end on some good news, I guess. On Monday,

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Speaker 2: this Supreme Court rejected a call to overturn or here

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Speaker 2: it's previous ruling on legalizing same sex marriage nation wide.

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Speaker 4: So this is where this is where they're this is

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Speaker 4: where they're drawing the line right now?

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Speaker 1: Is this?

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Speaker 2: I think I think I did predict this a few

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Speaker 2: months ago, and then which people we got a little

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Speaker 2: bit mad at me for saying that I didn't think

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Speaker 2: they were going to pick this one up.

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Speaker 4: Another w in the gear column.

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Speaker 2: But I think it is fairly interesting that this is

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Speaker 2: this is the point in which they're like, nah, nah,

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Speaker 2: it's not worth it. Like this this is more settled

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Speaker 2: to them than even the abortion thing was. I think

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Speaker 2: I think some of the general like economic issues, shows

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Speaker 2: that there's not a real desire for pushing on this

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Speaker 2: right now based on you know, gestures broadly at other

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Speaker 2: economy stuff and some of the some of the some

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Speaker 2: of the anti woke fuel maybe maybe running out as

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Speaker 2: the as the economic situation becomes more and more dire dire,

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Speaker 2: right Like, how much longer can the Republicans just scream

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Speaker 2: about trans people as they're ruining the economy? Do you

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Speaker 2: think it's going to still work for them in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six? Maybe not. They might be scared that they've

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Speaker 2: put all of their eggs in this whole anti woke

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Speaker 2: culture basket and now that they're in charge in the

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Speaker 2: country's still getting worse. They're like, well, I wonder if

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Speaker 2: we can replay that card or not.

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Speaker 5: As a final economy note, I want to note that

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Speaker 5: SoftBank sold all of their shares in in video Share.

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Speaker 4: Don't worry about it. It's part of regular stalk rotation.

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Speaker 4: It's fine.

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Speaker 5: These are the biggest rubes who have ever resisted, have

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Speaker 5: come rid of all of.

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Speaker 3: Ships.

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Speaker 5: These are these are the we work guys told.

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Speaker 3: The bag for we work, Yes, which I mean does

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Speaker 3: that mean that they're they're getting out too early of

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Speaker 3: ay I or does it mean that, uh, they're hesitant

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Speaker 3: their gun shy enough that they got out just in time.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you can say.

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Speaker 5: We reported the news scarce. I'm stealing your line this week.

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Speaker 3: Why we all stole that line from a terrible man.

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Speaker 2: You haven't seen the Newsroom that's stolen valor. Ye, great show.

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Speaker 2: I would love a new season of the Newsroom where

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Speaker 2: he works for some like bullshit like internet news company.

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Speaker 2: He's he's like a substacker and he has like a

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Speaker 2: home studio.

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Speaker 1: Oh top ten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah God, I would love that he's super big in it.

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Speaker 3: But they don't ever make a direct point of it.

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Speaker 6: It just becomes like subtly caught obvious that like, oh wow,

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Speaker 6: this this is a guy who's bought into some weird

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Speaker 6: conspiracy theories. Sure I was thinking because I mentioned it

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Speaker 6: came out the same year as True Detective. I would

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Speaker 6: like a new season of the news Room that's a

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Speaker 6: crossover with the first season of True Detective, or where

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Speaker 6: we get we get Woody Harrelson and we get that

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Speaker 6: British lady all all in the same room together.

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Speaker 3: It'll be great.

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Speaker 2: They would be a nasty combo. Imagine how which funked

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Speaker 2: up ship they could get up.

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Speaker 3: To be awful? It would be awful. Hell yeah, well

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Speaker 3: we're not even on the air anymore.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, we're still in the air.

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Speaker 3: Well I stopped recording.

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Speaker 4: We reported the news.

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Speaker 1: Weeds.

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