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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 1: Friday edition of the program. We're going to try to

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Speaker 1: have some fun, keep you entertained, hopefully make you smarter

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Speaker 1: as we roll through this program on this Friday and

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Speaker 1: take you into the weekend. I imagine a lot of

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Speaker 1: you like me sneaking a peek at the Masters that

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Speaker 1: is taking place right now down in Augusta underway, beautiful weather,

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Speaker 1: there a lot of you. I bet we'll have a

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Speaker 1: master's nap on Saturday or Sunday. You ever have a

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Speaker 1: master's nap before? Buck, you even know what I'm referring to.

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Speaker 1: Put on the golf and it's just like they have

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Speaker 1: the birds in the background, like the kind of soft

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Speaker 1: melodic tones. It's not very loud. It's amazing how often

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Speaker 1: I fall asleep sometimes sitting watching the Masters coming down

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Speaker 1: the home stretch on Saturday or Sunday afternoon. The master's

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Speaker 1: nap is a tradition in the Travis house, and I

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Speaker 1: bet in many of the households out there across the country,

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Speaker 1: we got a bunch of different stories, talk about tons

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Speaker 1: of fallout from the OJ Simpson death. You may be

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Speaker 1: stunned by some of the things that you hear us play,

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Speaker 1: because some of the commentary was just absolutely crazy. Buck.

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Speaker 1: Even even our conversation, I thought, hey, we're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: some wacky stuff. It was even worse than I anticipated.

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Speaker 1: But there was a story that I saw this morning

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Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal about the number of black

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Speaker 1: men that are interested in supporting Trump, and I want

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Speaker 1: to dive into that here in a little bit. But first,

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Speaker 1: this story out of Memphis is unfortunate. It's getting a

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Speaker 1: lot of attention. It's happening far too often. A Memphis

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Speaker 1: police officer was shot and killed in the line of duty.

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Speaker 1: He was shot and killed by a suspect that had

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Speaker 1: been arrested for a violent crime and released with no bail,

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Speaker 1: a teenage suspect Memphis. I'll tell you a little story

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Speaker 1: about Memphis here in a minute, because I do think

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Speaker 1: the city of Memphis is in the midst of real challenges.

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Speaker 1: But here is cut one describing what happened the three

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Speaker 1: police officers who were shot, one of whom is passed. Listen.

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Speaker 2: A total of three officers were struck by gunfire tragically,

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Speaker 2: one of our officers lost his life. That officer is

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Speaker 2: Joseph McKinney. One suspect was eighteen years old and the

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Speaker 2: other suspect is seventeen years old. The eighteen year old

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Speaker 2: suspect was arrested in March twenty twenty four by MPD

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Speaker 2: and a stolen vehicle with an illegal modified semi automatic

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Speaker 2: weapon with a glock switch attached. The block switch converted

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Speaker 2: the weapon to a fully automatic machine gun. He was

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Speaker 2: also charged at that time for two stolen vehicles and

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Speaker 2: having a programming device commonly used to steal cars. The

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is the I believe the Memphis Police chief

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Speaker 1: that you heard speaking there. We certainly extend our condolences

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Speaker 1: to officer Joseph McKinney who was killed. I am so

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Speaker 1: sick of this happening, not only obviously with police officers,

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Speaker 1: violent perpetrators arrested. She said he was arrested in March

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Speaker 1: buck last month. You heard what he was arrested with.

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Speaker 1: That's fairly significant. Three stolen cars, I think she said,

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Speaker 1: zero restraint at all. He's right back on the streets.

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Speaker 1: And I think she was making a point of saying

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Speaker 1: that are beyond frustrated themselves. You and I have yelled

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Speaker 1: this from the rooftops. We know who's going to commit

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Speaker 1: violent crime. The police know who's going to commit violent crime.

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Speaker 1: We are continuing to allow violent perpetrators to be arrested

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how people aren't aren't sick and tired

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Speaker 1: of it. Do we know how old these suspect is.

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Speaker 1: I think they said eighteen for the one that he is,

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Speaker 1: I think the eighteen year old was shot and killed

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Speaker 1: There's another seventeen year old involved, but I think the

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Speaker 3: One of the problems that they're having in some of

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Speaker 3: the city of Memphis in last year had four hundred,

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Speaker 3: That is warez level. I mean, that is like a

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Speaker 3: aren't they making the city of Memphis should have absolutely

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Speaker 3: everything else. I've actually was approached by someone years ago saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: Of things going for it, you know, cultural lead.

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Speaker 3: And I looked at the crime rate and I just said,

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Speaker 3: unifying characteristic they all have when it comes to the

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Speaker 3: a right leaning police commissioner or prosecutor. It's Sorosda's left

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Speaker 1: To put that into context to what you were saying,

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Speaker 1: and maybe our team can look it up. I think

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Speaker 1: the murder rate, we got a lot of people listening

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Speaker 1: in New York for instance, I think the murder rate

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Speaker 1: now is in New York City. And people in New

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Speaker 3: Crime, Well, New York City has eight point six million people,

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Speaker 3: and someone can do a spot check. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: For people out there who are fed up with New

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Speaker 1: the way, the eighteen year old was shot and killed

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Speaker 3: I mean I read a lot about New York three

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Speaker 1: You go, So you're talking about twelve thirteen X. Then right,

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Speaker 1: like the amount of homicide in Memphis, Memphis has more homicides, and.

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Speaker 3: That's Crimphis has more homicides. Memphis has six hundred thousand

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Speaker 3: residents and more people, more people murdered than New York

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Speaker 3: City with eight point six million residents. That's putting into

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I told you this off air because you

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Speaker 1: When I was a kid growing up, Memphis and Nashville

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Speaker 1: for instance, Houston and Dallas have a rivalry. Inside of

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Speaker 1: which one is going to be better, Nashville or Memphis.

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Speaker 1: Nashville has skyrocketed, and so many people who are successful

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Speaker 1: the governor buck when we talk about those numbers. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about twelve and thirteen ex New York City, and

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Speaker 1: we talk about crime in New York City and how

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Speaker 1: fed up with crime people in New York City are.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the State National Guard almost needs to

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Speaker 1: get called into Memphis and they just need to start

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Speaker 1: patrolling the streets. I mean, when you're talking about the

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Speaker 1: and you've got totally innocent people. I think we've talked

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Speaker 1: Memphis is not alone. Right we talked about Kansas City

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia recently it was either last year or the year before,

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Speaker 3: all time high it was about seven hundred murders in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Remember how buck everybody cared about that shooting at the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs Victory Parade until they found out that

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Speaker 1: it was just you know, young inner city residents shooting

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Speaker 1: they were like, when are we going to do something

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Speaker 1: about gun control? When are we going to take action?

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Speaker 1: This is unacceptable. Then you find out that it's just

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Speaker 1: just set a record high in murders. Story vanished. Nobody cares.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned over four hunt. I mean that that

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Speaker 1: number of Memphis murders. The reason this is story is

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Speaker 1: because a police officer lost his life and two other

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Speaker 1: police officers got shot. These are two black kids in

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Speaker 1: doesn't even make a blip on the radar. Nobody even

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Speaker 1: pays attention. But we got a murder rate there twelve

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Speaker 1: or thirteen x. What's going on in New York City.

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Speaker 1: There are many cities like this. It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, I'm just looking this up on the

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Speaker 3: fly because I was going to say, who wants to

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Speaker 3: bet that the chief prosecutor for Shelby County, which I

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Speaker 1: Am I right on that one? You know the county

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, Yeah, the chiefs the chief prosecutor that

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Speaker 3: includes Memphis. I was just gonna say, I bet he's

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Play and Buck. People fired off about

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Speaker 4: how it works is they pick a target that if

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Speaker 4: someone they want to kill, and then that means that

435
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Speaker 4: if you ever get caught doing a crime, you're not

436
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 4: going to flip or nark on other gang members because

437
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 4: they know when and where you killed somebody, which is

438
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Speaker 4: what having blood in the gang is. Luckily, I had

439
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Speaker 4: a firearm with me. I was able to shoot back

440
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Speaker 4: and save my own life. But what's even more shocking

441
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Speaker 4: is they ended up catching the two.

442
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Speaker 3: Guys both we've been sorry, hold on, hold on, so

443
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Speaker 3: so but they fired at you.

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Speaker 1: Were they in a car? I mean, what how did

445
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Speaker 1: this go down?

446
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Speaker 4: So they yeah, so they I walked out of my

447
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 4: best friend's house. It was there were blue lights that

448
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 4: were basically ricocheting in the windows where we were. We

449
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 4: were that close to fair where they were directing traffic

450
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Speaker 4: down the street. Two houses down they were charging twenty

451
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 4: dollars to park in their driveway and their front lawn.

452
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Speaker 4: So that's how close you were to law enforcement directing traffic.

453
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Speaker 4: Two guys got out of a car, they started walking

454
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Speaker 4: towards us. Before I could draw they had lifted their

455
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 4: guns up and both of them racked the round and

456
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 4: their semi automatic epistols so that you knew that it

457
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 4: was real and you knew there was a bullet in

458
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Speaker 4: the chamber. They hit us in the face, slammed us

459
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Speaker 4: up against the car. Now, luckily from riding the rides

460
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 4: that night, I had my keys, my wallet, and my

461
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 4: cellphone in my front pocket. They never reached a round

462
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 4: back and that was the blessing, because if they would

463
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Speaker 4: have felt my gun, I don't know what would have

464
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 4: happened before I could get it. And so there was

465
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Speaker 4: families that were walking by us with kids and strollers.

466
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Speaker 4: And the guy had the gun to my head and

467
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Speaker 4: he put it down to my side and he told

468
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Speaker 4: me to shake his blanking hand. And I had to

469
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Speaker 4: shake the hand of the guy that is, you know,

470
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Speaker 4: robbing me and putting a gun literally to my head.

471
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Speaker 4: And as they turned to walk away, and this is

472
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Speaker 4: how you get blood in the gang, they granted each other.

473
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Speaker 4: They're about five feet away. They turned around, they raised up,

474
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Speaker 4: and I'd pulled my gun behind my leg and I

475
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 4: raised up and we started shooting. And luckily, for the

476
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Speaker 4: grace of God, I was not hit. My friend was

477
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 4: not hit, and those two gang members took off running

478
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 4: as they were shooting at us, and the police came

479
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,479
Speaker 4: and they were like, okay, like we actually didn't even

480
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 4: call nine to one. We ran down the street. And

481
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 4: this tells you about the mentality of the police and

482
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Speaker 4: how I think just down Trott and they are. They're

483
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Speaker 4: in Memphis right now. Depending on whose statue look at,

484
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 4: they're either nine hundred to fourteen hundred police officers below

485
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 4: what they should be. And I ran to a police

486
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Speaker 4: officer and I looked at him. I said, I just

487
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 4: got shot that and I mean, I'm shaking, and he said, yeah,

488
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 4: we heard the gunshots. And he looked at me and

489
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Speaker 4: he said, that's not my job. I'll call somebody. Didn't move,

490
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 4: didn't react. He said, literally, that's not my job. Now,

491
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Speaker 4: my dad's in law enforcement. Full disclosure, it's been a

492
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Speaker 4: law enforcement most of his career in Memphis, So you

493
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 4: can imagine my shocks seeing a police officer tell me

494
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Speaker 4: that's not his job. And now I understand why he

495
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 4: said that. He's not going to go die, because if

496
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Speaker 4: he goes and grabs those guys, they are going to

497
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 4: be right back down the streets, which is exactly what

498
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 4: happened clam Buck. They ended up catching them two weeks later.

499
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Speaker 4: Not only did they catch them, I had to go

500
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Speaker 4: test at a parole hearing for a prior attempted murder

501
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 4: charge against one of the two guys. The gang members

502
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 4: came to two oh one Poplar, which is the courthouse,

503
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 4: got in the elevator with me and my friend and

504
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 4: threatened to murder us in the elevator, full on scuffle

505
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Speaker 4: I'm talking of fight. We got out of the elevator

506
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Speaker 4: at the courthouse. We're able to open the doors. We

507
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 4: then they held us for an hour and a half

508
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Speaker 4: and we were told by the judge after they held us,

509
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 4: they said, hey, just say you know, this is normal

510
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 4: they this is what they do. They come and they

511
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 4: antimidate witnesses so they won't testify against them. They basically

512
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 4: run the court system down here, and they have great

513
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 4: attorneys that take care of them and protect them. And

514
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 4: that's how the gangs work in Memphis. And this is

515
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 4: who Steve Moulroy basically works for. He takes his direction

516
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 4: as the Soros da the from these gangs. It's no

517
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 4: different than a cartel. And then they both got plea deals.

518
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Speaker 4: I was never asked as a victim of the crime.

519
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 4: I got a letter in the mail. No one called

520
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 4: me from the DA's office to say they were going

521
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 4: to do the deal. So I go to the mailbox.

522
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Speaker 4: Imagine this has happening to you. You then been your life threatened.

523
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 4: They know your address, they've told you that if you

524
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 4: testify against them, they're going to murder you. And then

525
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 4: you get a letter in the mail from the DA's office.

526
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 4: It says they've pleaded out five point six years and

527
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 4: four point seven years for these crimes where the only

528
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: reason why you're alive is because God protected you. You

529
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Speaker 4: shot back and you saved your own life in essence,

530
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 4: and God protected us. It was amazing because when you're

531
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Speaker 4: shooting five feet away, how do you not get hit? Right?

532
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Speaker 1: It's a blessing.

533
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Speaker 4: But that's what happened. And sure enough they went to

534
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Speaker 4: prison and they got out early, and they committed future crimes.

535
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Speaker 4: It's a revolving door. But if you're a police officer now,

536
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 4: and this goes back to defund the police, and I've

537
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 4: witnessed it firsthand. If you can't deliberately defund the police,

538
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 4: what they're now doing, and these deactivist DA's and Molroy

539
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 4: and others are doing, is they're basically saying the cops,

540
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Speaker 4: you're an idiot if you go risk your life to

541
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: lock someone up, because we're going to let them right

542
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 4: back out. So the police officers are being defunded because

543
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 4: the judges and the and these activist das are basically

544
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 4: mocking them. So why would you want to risk your

545
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 4: life to lock up a bad guy if you know

546
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 4: that you're not actually locking him up. This is the

547
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 4: reason why you're down nine hundred to twelve hundred and

548
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 4: thirteen hundred officers in Memphis and other places like New

549
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 4: Orleans and Baltimore and Detroit and Saint Louis. It's you.

550
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 4: You literally make the police go insane to the point

551
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 4: where they say, Okay, I'm not going to die or

552
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: risk my life dying to lock someone up who's not

553
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 4: actually going to be locked up, because we're not locking

554
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 4: up bad guys. It's a revolving door. And now you

555
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 4: look at bail in Memphis. There's a large population. Memphis

556
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 4: is poor, and they you come in, they say do

557
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 4: you have any money? And you say no, and they go, okay,

558
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 4: well we're going to let you out for shooting this

559
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 4: guy for one hundred bucks and they walk out.

560
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Speaker 1: The same day. Okay, so you've work's been done. We're

561
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: talking to Ben Ferguson. You hear him on Verdict. You

562
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: grew up in Memphis. I grew up in Nashville. You

563
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: probably remember, as I do. There was a rivalry between

564
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: those two cities in the eighties and the nineties over

565
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: which city was better. Now, Nashville has skyrocketed, it's boomed,

566
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Speaker 1: Everything is going pretty fantastic here. Memphis has fallen by

567
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: the wayside. Let's pretend you suddenly got basically dictatorial powers.

568
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: What would have to happen for Memphis to get fixed?

569
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Speaker 1: What needs to happen? As a longtime Memphian, what do

570
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: they need to do that they're not doing now?

571
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 4: Yeah? I told that the Shelby Kenny Sheriff ran for

572
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 4: mayor and I sat down with them. I said, I

573
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 4: would give you unlimited free advice because I want you

574
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: to win. And I said if I was, you know,

575
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 4: I had people when I lived that said then you

576
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 4: need to run. You need to run. And I genuinely

577
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 4: thought about it, pulled a petition once. But what I

578
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 4: realized was I was white, so I wasn't going to

579
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Speaker 4: get elected, and I was a Republican, so I wasn't

580
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 4: going to get elected. And I told him, I said,

581
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Speaker 4: you're a Democrat, You're African American, you care about this city,

582
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: and you know the crime. I said, what I would

583
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: do is I would say a meetia number one. I

584
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 4: would declare a state of emergency with crime, and I

585
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 4: would have a curfew for eighteen and under immediately in

586
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Speaker 4: the city. I would then immediately tell the citizens, I'm

587
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 4: leaving Memphis every day to go recruit police officers and

588
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 4: other cities until we get the numbers at twenty percent

589
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: above what we need them to be. Until we get

590
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 4: this city baf you lockdown and the criminals understand, this

591
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 4: is not the city you want to commit a crime in,

592
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 4: because we're coming after you. And I said in third,

593
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 4: you immediately go to Nashville and you go to the

594
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Speaker 4: governor and other elected state reps and state senators and

595
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 4: you say, I need truth and sentencing laws. I need

596
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Speaker 4: a three strikes you're out program. That doesn't have to

597
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 4: be a full strike for shoplifting. That can be a

598
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 4: half a strike, right, It can be sensible law enforcement,

599
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 4: but you basically say, I'm going to have to go

600
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 4: around you. And then, most importantly, if you want to

601
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 4: change a city, you've got to get rid of these

602
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 4: judges that are activist judges that believe their job is

603
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 4: not to hold people accountable, if they believe their job

604
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 4: is to basically right the wrongs of the past ass

605
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: and to let African Americans that are committing these crimes

606
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: out of jail because it's basically payback, like we just

607
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 4: heard about from with O. J. Simpson, Well, you deserve

608
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 4: to get out because the wrongs of the past and

609
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 4: Rodney King, and you go after these judges. The biggest

610
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 4: problem we have now in these cities is most people

611
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 4: don't know who their judges are. I'm guilty of that.

612
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 4: I think you guys probably don't know who your criminal

613
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 4: court judges are, and they're no longer. They're no. This

614
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 4: is more important than any other position in your city

615
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 4: is your judges. Because there are judges that see people

616
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 4: that commit heinous crimes, that rate people, that beat people,

617
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 4: that that that shoot people, and they don't die. These

618
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 4: medical professionals say their life and they say, okay, are

619
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 4: you poor? Yes, Well then you get to walk out

620
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 4: in here today, We'll see you later, and they commit

621
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 4: more crimes and they laugh and mock the police. But

622
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 4: I told them, I said, you have to basically be

623
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 4: a psychopath in fighting crime for your first year in office.

624
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 4: And if you want to change, you're going to have

625
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 4: to go and find good officers and pay them incredible

626
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: salaries and bonuses to get them to come protect your city,

627
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 4: because they're not going to do it for what you're

628
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 4: paying them now. And they're not going to do it

629
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Speaker 4: if they're going to let these people out of jail

630
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 4: immediately when you lock them up. And he looked at me,

631
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 4: He's like, Okay, I think you're right. He but I

632
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 4: don't know how that's going to play with the Democratic Party.

633
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 4: And I'm like, there's enough people here that don't feel safe.

634
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 4: People don't feel safe in my hometown of Memphis, and

635
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Speaker 4: I love that city, but it's not safe.

636
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Ben.

637
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Speaker 3: Look, really appreciate your perspective on this one. Exactly what

638
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 3: we wanted to dive into with you so we can

639
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: really know what's going on there. Ben Ferguson, Everybody check

640
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: Out Verdict with Ted Cruz and Ben Ferguson, Ben my friend.

641
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Speaker 1: We will talk to you soon. Thanks for joining us,

642
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: Thanks for having guys.

643
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: Look, I'm a big believer in the right to bear arms.

644
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: You want to be able to defend yourself, defend your home,

645
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: and you also want to be factically proficient, right and

646
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: so you want to have the right tools for the job.

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Speaker 3: That's where Bear Creek Arsenal comes in. Bear Creek Arsenal

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Speaker 1: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do

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Speaker 3: Really interesting conversation there with our friend Ben Ferguson about

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Speaker 3: situation of Memphis. But I didn't even realize until we

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Speaker 1: That's that's a.

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Speaker 3: Grim, a grim reality for that city. We will take

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Speaker 3: Next hour, we are going to be having a discussion

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Speaker 3: how it's a remindering of Clay. I was watching all

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Speaker 1: That was new.

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe there were it's just a it sort

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Speaker 3: there's other video too of people cheering the Oja verdict

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Speaker 3: We're gonna do a little refill on our Crocket coffee

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Speaker 1: on this, falling asleep on the couch while watching the Masters.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that in the third hour. I want

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Speaker 1: super fascinating Black men and how much they are supporting

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Speaker 1: Trump in the seven toss up states. Super fascinating data.

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Speaker 1: Do we buy that it's going to remain the case

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Speaker 1: in about six and a half months when voting starts.

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Speaker 1: We'll discuss that and more. Gonna have some fun with

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Speaker 1: you too on the Friday edition of the program. By

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