1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to Draftings Network the John Nick and Kenny 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: Florian Podcast. 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: John Annick and Kenny Florian. 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 3: I love them. 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: I can't get enough of them. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: I hear that fine big job there, Cooke Duffia, precre. 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: Fun out. 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 4: Rock. 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved. 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: You are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian. That's 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: oh good to be live with you. 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: On a Monday, July twenty nine, twenty twenty four, it 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: is episode five oh three of the Annik and Florian podcast. 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: Ken Flow continues live from the Carolinas. Gosh, man, I 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: mean these guys man who fought for the Belta bunch, 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: they have these extended vacations. We do have Boston and 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: in studio today as well. Jay, how we feeling, brother, 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: Oh come on, come on, yeah, figure more on that 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: in a little bit. Corey Sandhagen is live right now 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: in Abu Dhabi. He was in Dubai as I understand it. 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: He's in Abu Dhabi right now and he's going to 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: join us live in in advance of yet another main 23 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: event for him coming up this weekend against Umar nirmago Medov. 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 1: But a lot to get into today as we recap 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: UFC three oh four, and of course there is a 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: new undisputed UFC welterweight champion. 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: His name. 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: I don't expect to be particularly articulate today when it 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: comes to this Jecked I have often said ken flow 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: in this job now thirteen years or so. Best part 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: of it is when a non UFC champion breaks through 32 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: and becomes that realizes that effectively changes their lives, families, 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: lives forever. That is Blah Muhammad's new reality. He is 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: twenty four and three as an MMA pro. He's as 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: good as he thinks he is, leads the league and 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: self belief so loose and confident on fight night, it's 37 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: incredible to watch him handle these championship fight weeks and 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: these big time fight weeks. There is a new UFC 39 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: welterweight champion and he's a member. As it so happens 40 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: of the Santa Cam Florine podcast family, Blao remembered the 41 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: name Muhammad. Yeah. 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 5: Not only did he win the championship, he did it 43 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 5: in dominant fashion. And again this was Balal with a 44 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 5: beautiful game plan, beautiful execution of that game plan more importantly, 45 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 5: and he was able to take Leon Edwards out of 46 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 5: his game perfectly. I think his ability to force Leon 47 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 5: to be uncomfortable, to push the action to pressure. It's 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 5: something a lot of people have tried to do against 49 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 5: Leon Edwards. Kamara Uzman included they were not successful. Balall 50 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 5: was just amazing stuff. 51 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: So he got off to a great start, obviously, and 52 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: when he did take Leon Edwards down oftentimes it had 53 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: some style to it. I mean, there's so many different 54 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: angles to this fight. You and I thought it was wicked, entertaining, 55 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: It had back and forth. It had a massive moment 56 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: for Leon late, of course, as he rallied back in 57 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: the fight, as he did in round three. But Balah 58 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Muhammad got off to an outstanding start and really did 59 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: everything that he said he was going to do in 60 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: terms of making it a suffocating night for Leon Edwards 61 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: taking him down. But I also thought his striking was 62 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: a huge, huge part of this. I mean, Canelo Alvarez, 63 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: perhaps he is not, but his job was outstanding and 64 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: he landed a lot of significant shots on Leon. And 65 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if Edwards and his team would ever 66 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: even acknowledge those shots after the fact, but there are 67 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: a lot of things that could have played into Leon 68 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: Edwards's fatigue or maybe listlessness, as we saw at the 69 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: beginning of round two. Balah Muhamma had a lot to 70 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: do with that. 71 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 5: You know, Blall's strength is the fact that he knows 72 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 5: how to put it all together. Throwing a jab is 73 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 5: one thing, Pressuring an opponent is one thing, and taking 74 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 5: someone down is one thing. But when you're able to 75 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 5: put that all together, similar to someone like the great 76 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 5: George Saint Pierre did, then you have a fighter that 77 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 5: can be very effective. And I think that Leon was 78 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 5: so concerned after getting taken down in that first round 79 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 5: that he was really hesitant to let those hands go. 80 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: And if you're really hesitant to let those. 81 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 5: Hands go, well, guess what, now you're susceptible to getting 82 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 5: hit with something like a jab. And Billah was just 83 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 5: very confident there. He was able to offer up some 84 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 5: traffic in front of him, throw that jab down the middle. 85 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 5: It was throwing Leon off. It was also throwing Leon 86 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 5: off in the manner of getting him to cover high 87 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 5: and instead of clinching the upper body like Kamara Uzman did, 88 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 5: Ballah decided, just like Kabibnrmaga Medov, to wrap up those 89 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 5: legs he level changed beautifully. He was able to clasp hands, 90 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 5: put Leon on his back and just dominated from there. 91 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: So it's just brilliant execution. So the Palestinian American Bla 92 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: Muhammad is the undisputed UFC welterwaite champion in ten and 93 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: zero with a no contest spanning his last eleven twentieth 94 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: UFC appearance. He gets his fifteenth UFC win at six 95 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: in a row since that no contest against Leon Edwards. 96 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: And there were so many things that came out of 97 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: Balah Muhammad's mouth during fight week that a large part 98 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: of the fan based scoffed at. Whether it was comparing 99 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: himself to George Saint Pierre as GSP's teammate by the 100 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: way Kenny Florian just did in a soft way, granted, 101 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: but that or comparing his box thing to Canelo Alvarez, 102 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: or suggesting to us on these airwaves that Leon Edwards 103 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: was not the most difficult matchup for him in this 104 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: welterweight division. You know, I didn't necessarily lean into all 105 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: of those things, but Blao really believes in himself and 106 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: his team. We talked about the ability he had to 107 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: go do this entire training camp in Dugistan with Kabib 108 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: Ramago medoff. He stayed in Chicago, and he's the un 109 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: disputed champion of the world. Came flow, I'm out of words. 110 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 5: Ballad knew, he definitely knew, and he was very confident 111 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 5: heading into this. He looked extremely, extremely relaxed walking out 112 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 5: to the fight. Before the fight just seemed very much 113 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 5: at ease. And the beginning of that first round, man 114 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 5: I said, Leon's in for a fight. 115 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: You could just tell. I wasn't sure if Ballall was 116 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: going to win at that. 117 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 5: Stage of the game, but I knew it was going 118 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 5: to be a barn burner and Leon was going to 119 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 5: have to fight his ass off. 120 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: It didn't matter. 121 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 5: I think Leon did fight his ass off, and the 122 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 5: only round he really had was round three. Ballall was 123 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 5: just able to pressure him so well, and Leon just 124 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 5: looked like he was kind of forcing stuff a little bit. 125 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 5: He was allowing Ballall to cut off the cage. And again, 126 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 5: this is a Balall that knows how to formulate a 127 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 5: game plan execute beautifully. He was taking space away from 128 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 5: Leon edwards, and that's what you need to do. Leon 129 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 5: likes to fight comfortably like so many other fighters, right, 130 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 5: But some guys are very good with chaos. 131 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: Some guys can throw a lot of volume. Leon is 132 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: not that guy. 133 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 5: And Ballall was brilliantly able to pressure Lee on get 134 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 5: him to throw what he didn't want to throw. He 135 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 5: was able to take him down what he wanted to 136 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 5: He's able to control and slow down the game on 137 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 5: the ground and frustrate ly on and take him out 138 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 5: of the game. And from there he just kind of 139 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 5: run right away with it. 140 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: So this is ken Flow's sick game. Flow is under 141 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: the weather, still punching the rock as you would fully expect. 142 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: How about that, there's a bitcoin conference. Get your little 143 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: sniffles are not on a mask at the Bitcoin conference? 144 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: Oh gentlemen, this this mixed martial arts analysis talking about 145 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: the welterweight Tammy. I mean like, can you hit that button? John, 146 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: can you hit the button? Yeah? I have the button. 147 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: I meant you down there. It looks like we have 148 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: the man of the Moment live from Abu Dhabi right now, 149 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: yet another main event for the sam Many number two 150 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: see Bandham weaight contender live on location. Corey Sandhagen brother, 151 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: appreciate the time, man, I know it's the evening. How 152 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: we doing out there. 153 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're doing good. You guys are not out here yet, 154 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 6: or I guess John Arnad out here yet. 155 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: Daniel Cormier is on his way. That is not on 156 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: my calendar because I'm going South Florida to Perth, Western 157 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: Australia in about ten fifteen days or so, so i'd 158 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: love to be there. We might do a watch party 159 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: because you're such an a leaf fighter that we want to, 160 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, bring some extra noise to your fight. But 161 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: how we feel a kid in advance of yet another 162 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: headlining spot for you. 163 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, good, really excited to be headlined in another show. 164 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 6: I've been in Dubai for about a week now, so 165 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 6: I'm kind of bored out of my mind hanging out 166 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 6: in these hotel rooms. But yeah, got one more week 167 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 6: of being bored and then of course a bunch of 168 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 6: interviews and stuff like that this week until I get 169 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 6: a fight. And man, I'm really excited about it, especially 170 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 6: this one. For some reason, I just feel I just 171 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 6: feel like really locked in. I feel real sharp, So 172 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 6: I'm excited. 173 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: Man. 174 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be my best performance. 175 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I'm gonna send it over to ken 176 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: Flow here at a moment, But I did just want 177 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: to get this out of the way because I know 178 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: you have a certain kinship with Curtis Razor Blades, and 179 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: I guess I just want to get your thoughts on 180 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: what happened for him over the weekend. It kind of 181 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: was over before it started sixty seconds, and you know, 182 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: I do think Mark Goddard probably stepped in at the 183 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 1: right time, and perhaps that's neither here nor there, but 184 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: I know for a lot of us, we were just 185 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: excited that Curtis finally had this opportunity and it went 186 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: by the boards pretty quickly, obviously at the hands of 187 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: Tommy Aspinall. 188 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely. I mean that's a heavyweight division, man. I 189 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 6: think that that's the toughest division to be in, just 190 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 6: because it's almost like those bare knuckle fights where it's 191 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 6: just like who can land the best shot the quickest, 192 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 6: and that's how heavyweight goes, man, And there's really no 193 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 6: shame in it. I haven't talked to Curtis or anything yet, 194 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 6: but he's been my bud for a while and I 195 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 6: really care about him. He's a great guy, so it 196 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 6: sucks to watch him lose. But what can you do, man? 197 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 6: That's just that's that division. Dude. Yeah, you on the 198 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 6: chin and you get put out sometimes, and I think, 199 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 6: you know, it's a tough sport already, but to be 200 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 6: a heavyweight, I think it's just got to be that 201 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 6: much more tough, just because sometimes it doesn't even come 202 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 6: down to skill. It's just not true shot sooner so 203 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 6: sucks Corey. 204 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 5: You know, Nermalga Metof is clearly a great fighter, but 205 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 5: you're easily the best fighter that he's ever faced. 206 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're fighting him at the right 207 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: time right now? Uh? 208 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, I suppose. 209 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: So. 210 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 6: You know, when I thought Song, that was kind of 211 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 6: one thing that came to my mind is I was like, 212 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 6: all right, like, uh, this this win is going to 213 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 6: age really well against Song, being that he wasn't really 214 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 6: you know, the biggest name or had the had the 215 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 6: biggest fights yet at the time, I think that Umar 216 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 6: is pretty similar. I think that this win is going 217 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 6: to age really well, and I think he's going to 218 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 6: do fantastic things in the UFC, But uh, he's not 219 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 6: going to get past me first. He's going to have 220 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 6: to do it after me. 221 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 5: And uh and uh yeah, it seems like you're you're 222 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 5: a guy that's not really concerned with the odds. But 223 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 5: are you surprised that he's coming into this fight? 224 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: Is that big of a favorite? 225 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's a little annoying. Uh, you know, that 226 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 6: is a little annoying. I don't really like deep down, 227 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 6: I don't really give a ship, but it is a 228 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 6: bit annoying just that I guess I'm getting counted out. 229 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 6: But I don't really know where that's stemming from. Maybe 230 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 6: the wrestling and just the Dakastani's kind of have this 231 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 6: like mythical monster surrounding around them right now, and so 232 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 6: I think that that's where that's coming from. But you know, 233 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 6: I kind of know how I come across, and I 234 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 6: know that I'm maybe not the biggest personality in the 235 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 6: world and maybe not the best salesman in the world. 236 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 6: But I do know that I'm maybe one of the 237 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 6: best fighters in the world, maybe the best fighter in 238 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 6: the world. So I just let my fight shine for 239 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 6: me and h and yeah, I got a lot of 240 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 6: people that I guess I got to prove wrong on Saturday. 241 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: Where does a win over Namaga Medov put you like, 242 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: what do you want next? 243 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 6: Yeah? Definitely a title fight after this one. I mean, 244 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 6: Dana I think said it himself when he announced the fight, 245 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 6: is that it's a number one contender fight. I don't 246 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 6: think that there's anyone really in the conversation. I think 247 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 6: for Morob and O'Malley got booked. It was me and Morab. 248 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 6: We're really the only guys in that conversation. And you know, 249 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 6: being that Umar is way down in the rankings, apparently 250 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 6: no one will fight him, I'm the guy that's stepping 251 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 6: up and doing it, and uh and that means something 252 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 6: because I'm doing it again. We were scheduled to fight 253 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 6: last year, so I'm doing it again. So yeah, I 254 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 6: mean that counts for something, you know. And I definitely 255 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 6: believe that Umar is one of the tougher like stylistic 256 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 6: matches to go up against in the division. He's very 257 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 6: unique in all in all areas in the striking and 258 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 6: the grappling, He's super unique. So I spent a lot 259 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 6: of time this camp learning. I spent a lot of time, 260 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 6: you know, perfecting and doing all that stuff. But man, 261 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 6: this camp was a lot on the brain just having 262 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 6: to you know, when you fight someone that's so well rounded, 263 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 6: it can be it can be a lot, man, And 264 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 6: I worked my ass off for this fight, and it's 265 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 6: going to really pay dividends because it's going to be 266 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 6: one of those where I'm there showering off all the 267 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 6: blood and I kind of get to just and think 268 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 6: to myself, like, man, I'm proud of that one. You know, 269 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 6: I'm proud of that one. So that's that's why I'm 270 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 6: feeling going into this one. 271 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: What a great mentality and answer there from the number 272 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: two rank YOUFC band wait in the world, Corey Sandhagen 273 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: at Corey san Haagen MMA all one word on Instagram. 274 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: Looks like you have some merchandise out there. Now. I've 275 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: been known to buy fighter merchandise. I bought a chie 276 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: wee Wee's hat on Robert Rosas Junior's website recently. So, 277 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: but you had a T shirt that I liked recently. 278 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: Where can people buy that merchandise? I'm not getting you 279 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: out of here yet, but that just popped into my mind. 280 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, Cory Sandhagen dot com. I saw everything on their instructionals, 281 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 6: merch all of that that. Yeah, I think T shirts 282 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 6: are kind of cool. Just to plug them. I think 283 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 6: that they're kind of cool. They're they're like nice material. 284 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 6: I think It's a cool idea since I'm really the 285 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 6: nature guy or whatever are themed one. So yeah, yeah, 286 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 6: Cory Sandhagen dot Com. 287 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: All right, all right, So let me go back to 288 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: the betting odds for a second as we sit here 289 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: on the DraftKings Network in the DraftKings YouTube channel with 290 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: Corey san Haagen. There are a lot of different reasons 291 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: that you could be in that range right now, I 292 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: write down what I think the odds are going to 293 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: be before I look at the odds. I've never been 294 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: more off than this fight, right, and you were in 295 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: a similar range at one point against Pyotr Jan, but 296 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: not quite this big an underdog. The Normago Medov surname 297 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: has a lot to do with it. Bro, if your 298 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: name was fucking Bruna Brazil, you'd be less of an underdog, 299 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm serious, instead of Corey Sandhagen sounds like a farmer 300 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, I'm telling you, if your name was 301 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: fucking Bruna Lightning Brazil or whatever the fuck, you'd be 302 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: like plus one eighty okay, Nrmago medofs surname undefeated, right, yeah, 303 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: just I think maybe your general disposition right might have 304 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: something to do with it, right, But I do think 305 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: you're still in terms of your peers, right most of 306 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: these people believe that you are the hardest fight for 307 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: Sean O'Malley and pound for pound one or one A 308 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: as far as the best one hundred and thirty five 309 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: pounder in the world. I guess when it comes to 310 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: the champion, Sean, I guess you're probably happy to see 311 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: him in a pretty good competition cycle here and fighting 312 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: the guy in Marob, who you believe is the rightful 313 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: number one contender right now? 314 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 6: Uh yeah, definitely. I mean Morob, I mean, how can 315 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 6: you even argue with the guy? You know, Like it 316 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 6: was hard for me to even argue with the guy 317 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 6: when I was trying to give out give out my right. 318 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, got like ten twelve fights wins in a row. 319 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 6: So that's amazing in the UFC, you know, so so 320 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 6: good on Marab. You know, I think that they're going 321 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 6: to have a hell of a fight. I think that 322 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 6: it's it's going to be a really tough one for 323 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 6: the both of them, specifically for Morob just be you know, 324 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 6: every fight starts standing, and I think that Morob doesn't 325 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 6: clear the gap as good as some of the other 326 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 6: guys and O'Malley is really good at keeping space and 327 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 6: making it really difficult for people to get close to him, 328 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 6: and just having that amount of a height advantage against 329 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 6: you know, kind of his mover style and his athletic attributes. 330 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 6: I think that it's going to be really tough one 331 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 6: for Marob, But I'm really curious to see what happens. 332 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 6: You know, I guess anything can happen. It's really hard 333 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 6: for me to imagine. It's hard for me to imagine 334 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 6: any scenario where Morob is going to win like that dominantly, right. 335 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and I'm calling the fight, but like, 336 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: do you know what the odds are for that fight? 337 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 5: No? 338 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: I don't. 339 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: So I thought Sean would be like a minus one 340 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: to eighty betting favorite, and he's the underdog. So obviously 341 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm not in the odds making business for a reason 342 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: because I'm way off when it comes to these elite 343 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: bandam Wait's Corey Sanahagen live with us on the Anak 344 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: and Flooring podcast. So in a fight or meeting setting, 345 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: I might ask you, what are your expectations from Umar 346 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: and Rmago metup early on. I'm a little bit hesitant 347 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: to do that right here, as we sit here live. 348 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: But I guess I'm just curious when it comes to 349 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: preparing for this guy and his relative well roundedness. What 350 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: are your expectations for how things might start early on 351 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: in the main event come Saturday night. 352 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean, it's definitely going to be an 353 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 6: exciting wonder. I don't think that there's any scenario where 354 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 6: this is, you know, not an exciting fight. I think 355 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 6: that this is going to be a hell of an 356 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 6: exciting fight, just being that Stylistically, Umar has a mover 357 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 6: style like I, which is just aesthetically kind of a 358 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 6: little bit more exciting. We're fast, We're in a really 359 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 6: exciting weight division right now. The kicks that Umar throws 360 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 6: are very unique. I think the way that I approach, 361 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 6: like my kind of like really pressy style of striking 362 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 6: is really unique and exciting to watch. So it's certainly 363 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 6: going to be an exciting one. I think that, you know, 364 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 6: Umar's plan has to be to try to take me down. 365 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 6: I mean that would if I was fighting me. That's 366 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 6: I suppose what I would say you should try to 367 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 6: do to that guy. Although no one really has seen 368 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 6: too much of my wrestling, and if you have seen 369 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 6: a lot of my I really can't think of a 370 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 6: time outside of the Sterling fight where I was on 371 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 6: my back for longer than ten seconds, So I think 372 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 6: that I get a little bit, maybe not as much 373 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 6: credit for that, but but yeah, I mean, I'm really 374 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 6: excited to show off my wrestling because these guys are 375 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 6: supposed to be some of the best wrestlers in MMA 376 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 6: and in the world, and so I'm really excited to 377 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 6: see how I stack up against that and just proved well, 378 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 6: proved to people that I have that element to my 379 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 6: game too, because that's just something that people haven't been 380 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 6: able to see yet. And so I guess as far 381 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 6: as preparation goes for preparing for a guy like Umar is, 382 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 6: I had to fly a bunch of guys in that 383 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 6: kind of have a very similar like TKD karate type 384 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 6: of style that that Umar has. Wrestling looks were a 385 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 6: little bit easier. I have a guy named Taiwan Claxton 386 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 6: who's just a beast of an mm A wrestler built 387 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 6: a lot like Umar as well, does a lot of 388 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 6: similar things. We had some guys from Mongolia come out 389 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 6: to help out. I don't know it's full. I don't 390 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 6: know how to say this full mat. The Aasy is 391 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 6: what we call them a in the in the preparation 392 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 6: for the wrestling piece, because they do have their own 393 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 6: little style out there and it's a little bit different 394 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 6: than the American style. So I got some international looks 395 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 6: in wrestling, had a guy flying from England to give 396 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 6: me a TKD look, Jamie Faulding, who's a very guy, 397 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 6: Ton Lee from New Orleans, and so and so many 398 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 6: people out for this camp. Dude. I feel like I 399 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 6: didn't get any time to myself at my house, but 400 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 6: I've been bored the last couple of weeks all by myself, 401 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 6: so that's pretty good. 402 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 1: Well, dude, anyone who follows you on Instagram knows how 403 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: hard you've been working, and we've been tracking your every move. 404 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: You're one of our favorite fighters. Kemp Flo loves you 405 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: even before that answer, and now even more so obviously 406 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: the Ryan Hall connection. We got a couple more minutes 407 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: here with Corey san Haagen. 408 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 6: Jay. 409 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: I'll let you get in in a moment, but I 410 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: do want to ask you about a potential backup scenario 411 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: at Sphere in Vegas come September. And I know it's 412 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: a short time away and there's probably only a five 413 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: percent chance that you would actually compete in that setting, right, 414 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: But if you win this fight, it's rhetorical to ask 415 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: you what's next, right, because it could be title shot 416 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, it's not even a conversation like 417 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: I would say to you what I said to Balalan others. 418 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: You sit, bro, even if you sit for fourteen months. 419 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: If you beat Umar, the next fights for the unisputed 420 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: championship or for seven figures at a BMF belt, And 421 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: that's fucking it right. So as far as the backup 422 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: scenario is concerned, to make money to weigh in, I 423 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: would imagine has some sort of appeal. But what are 424 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that, just given the fact that you're 425 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: competing August three and September fourteen, is cannon ball coming? 426 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 6: I'm not sure. Honestly. I kind of want to get 427 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 6: past Saturday before I say, yeah, yeah, fair Saturday, But 428 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 6: it would be it would kind of have to be 429 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 6: a lot of money for me to do that. I think, 430 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 6: just it being a month later and me feeling like 431 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 6: there's like I think that I punched my ticket one 432 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 6: thousand percent to fighting for the title after this one, 433 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 6: So to do something as like take a short notice 434 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 6: fight like that actfully with you know, on the stupid 435 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 6: side of things. But yeah, I've been knowne to do 436 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 6: some stupid things sometimes. 437 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hasty, No, it's hasty, right, it's it's it 438 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with Sphere and Vegas and the 439 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: unique nature of that live event. Right, You've competed for 440 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: the interim championship. But yes, I'm telling you right now, 441 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: the win over Rob font should have granted you a 442 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: title fight. So then you go beat this undispute, undefeated 443 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: guy who you twice have accepted when you know, probably 444 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: Sanhagan fans and management are like, you don't necessarily have 445 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: to do this, So I'll shut the fuck up now. 446 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: But I think you know how I feel. 447 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: Jay. 448 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: You got them for Corey on the way out. Yeah, 449 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: it's not even a question, you know from my stand by, 450 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: And fuck the betting line, right, the smart money will 451 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: come in that line probably won't even close where it is. 452 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 1: But for me, right like, this is a championship fight. 453 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: I would pay money for this. But I just want 454 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: to tell you, John, this fight just has so much 455 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: juice for us. And he was asking me about the fight, 456 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: you know, what I said, I was and I know 457 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: Umar a little bit met him. All I said was like, 458 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm rooting so hard for Corey Sandhagen. That's 459 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: all I got is I'm rooting so hard for it. 460 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 2: That's all I got. 461 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: Man, Like, dude, such a fan. 462 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: Let's fucking go. 463 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 6: Hey, thank you, thanks all. 464 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: Right, Corey Sandhagan dot com at Corey Sanhagan MMA on Instagram. 465 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: We wish you all the best. Can't thank you enough 466 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: for a quarter of an hour, brother, and uh we 467 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: will see you down the line. Uh maybe even in 468 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: the championship setting, buddy, all the best this weekend we'll 469 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: be watching live. 470 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 6: Cool Yeah, thanks guys, piece out stories all. 471 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: Right there, he is the number two rank UFC bandam 472 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 1: Way contender Corey Sandhagen gracious enough to join live here 473 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: on the Anakin Florian podcast. Umar and Rmago Medob is 474 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: a tremendous fighter and an even better human being. I'm 475 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: telling you he's I love Balau Muhammad. He's a great, 476 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: great man. Umar's an even better human being, and Corey 477 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: Sandegan is right there with him. You know, I think 478 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: oftentimes in this space you get so attached to these 479 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: athletes and you hate to trot out the lazy statement 480 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: that's like, oh, I hate that these guys have to 481 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: fight and one of these guys has to lose. But 482 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: that's the reality for me this weekend because these are 483 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: just two absolute sweethearts, philanthropic, great guys Kim Flip. Yeah, absolutely, 484 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: two two pros as well, and I think we're going 485 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: to get a great fight because of it. You got 486 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: something over there, fanboy, No, I just I know, I 487 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: get yeah, that's what I was going to say. I know, 488 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: I get all excited. But Corey is brilliant. I've never 489 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: heard speaking to him about MMA or life. It's just 490 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: whether it's on camera or off. But whether he wins 491 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: or loses his perspective. I mean, he's wise beyond his 492 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: years and so skilled in the octagon and so humble, 493 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: and it's for him taking this fight is real. So 494 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: do we got camera three access to that? 495 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: That's what we're gonna do. 496 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm getting there. Don't produce the show. Headlines brought to 497 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: you by Querrevo. Now's a good time to enjoy the 498 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: Tequila is Invented. Tequila Headlines Today focuses on our UFC 499 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: three oh four recap and the new undisputed UFC welterweight 500 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: champion Balau remember the name Muhammad. We will of course 501 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: get to Tommy Aspinall as well. But what a moment, right, 502 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: I remember when Yan Behovich broke through for poland Brandon 503 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: Moreno Glover to Shera at forty two can flow. But 504 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: this one is really unique because not unlike Leon Edwards 505 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: the champion before him, he was only getting one shot Kenny, 506 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: and he certainly was ready to go when round one began. Yeah. 507 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 5: Absolutely, man, he seemed ready. He seemed like he had 508 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 5: the right game plan. I'm not sure Leon really. 509 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: Expected Blall's pressure and striking to be where it was at. 510 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: I really don't. 511 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 5: And then once that takedown happened, I was like, man, 512 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 5: Ballall looks like he's going to take this. 513 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: You know. I think that was a really good sign. 514 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 5: I think it really deflated Leon Edwards to a certain 515 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 5: extent and you know, put his back back against the wall. 516 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 6: Well you know. 517 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: And it can be cliche to just say, oh, he's 518 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: getting better every fighter, Guy's getting better every fight, but 519 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, Billa truly is and I remember I think 520 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: it was maybe the Damien Maya fight if I'm not 521 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: mistaken where I noticed a distinct difference in the crispiness 522 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: of Balal's striking. But for me, you know, whether people 523 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: talk about remember the decision, it's all dominant decisions. Right. 524 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: Are we gonna put some respect on the eleven fight, 525 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: unbeaten streak now because he's strapped up? I mean, when 526 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: are we going to celebrate. We're going to celebrate right now. 527 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: But I do want to get into something you said, 528 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: because you focused on the decision there for a second, 529 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: and Kenny and I were talking off the air at 530 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: just how appealing this championship fight was for us. Now, 531 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: perhaps it wasn't a quote unquote Barne Berner, but it 532 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: had so many things that you want a title fight 533 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: to have. And say nothing of the fact that blow 534 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: Muhammad's striking looked out standing. His jab was great, he 535 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: landed a lot of significant strikes on the feet, but 536 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: his wrestling was wicked, exciting Kenny in rounds one and two. 537 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: Leon came storming back with his wrestling and back control. 538 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: In round three, blah, Muhammad didn't have a chance to 539 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: get out from that, and then Muhammad in kind responds 540 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: in round four, back in fucking forth we go, and 541 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: then Leon paints the canvas with Muhammad's blood in round 542 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: five and rallying back in the fight. So I'm not 543 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: sure exactly what we are looking for. I think a 544 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: lot of people just watch Bala Muhammad with a tainted eye. 545 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: And that's why I tweet cry right like I am 546 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: a Leon Edwards fan. As anyone knows, Shabama pot is 547 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: my favorite song, right. My most significant call of my 548 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: career is Leon Edwards. 549 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: Right. 550 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: The favorite moment of my professional career is when Leon 551 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: hugged me after the fact six months later. But it 552 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: is time to put respect on the name Balah Muhammad. 553 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: And if other people don't want to do it, you know, we're. 554 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: Gonna do it here. 555 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tweet, and I'm gonna tweet not to 556 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: Team Edwards. I'm gonna tweet to this segment of the 557 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: fan base. Fucking crop just crap today, crap, Well, this is. 558 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 5: This is kind of what we were talking about before. 559 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 5: You know, where, You're never going to appease the fans 560 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 5: no matter what you do. People are going to hate 561 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 5: on you no matter what. And most people, when it 562 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 5: comes to the fight game, the least educated. They are 563 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 5: is in regard to the grappling game. They don't know 564 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 5: how to appreciate it. They don't know how difficult it is. 565 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 5: And I mean, look at Kamara Uzban Okay, one of 566 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 5: the greatest fighters all right to make people down and 567 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 5: control them, and he wasn't able to do that against 568 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 5: someone like Leon Edwards. And the fact that Belall was 569 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 5: able to do that in dominant fashion through twenty minutes 570 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 5: of that fight is just insane and a testament to 571 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 5: how hard Belall works. And I want to go back 572 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 5: to their first fight, and I think one of the 573 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 5: worst things I did was actually watch that fight because 574 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 5: that Belall is nothing like the Belall that fought on 575 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 5: Saturday night. 576 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: That was like a stupid thing for me to do, because. 577 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 5: Like Ballall looked ten times faster on Saturday night than 578 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 5: he did in that last fight. Like he just seemed 579 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 5: way more comfortable with everything he did. And of course 580 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 5: it's like duh, he had, you know, kind of took 581 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 5: it on relative short notice. But I mean, it really 582 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 5: is amazing to see the improvements that he's made. And again, 583 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 5: just the execution man, and this isn't a guy, He's 584 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 5: not a d one wrestler in college and it wrestle. 585 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: In the Olympics. He's not. 586 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 5: He's been a world class striker, he's not this world 587 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 5: class Bilian. But it doesn't matter again, you know GSP 588 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 5: wasn't either. But it's how you put it all together 589 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 5: and how you formulate your game plan and how you execute. 590 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 5: And right now, I'm not sure there's anybody better than 591 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 5: it comes to Ballall and his team and doing. 592 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: That and how you train largely twenty four to seven, 593 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: three sixty five, or how you approach and commit to 594 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: the Mixed Martial Arts Championship lifestyle twenty four to seven 595 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: like three forty five, right, if not three sixty five. 596 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 1: And this man is a devout Muslim who will defend 597 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: his title amidst a Ramadan training camp if need be. 598 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: I think we are going to try to get Balad 599 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: Muhammad later today. He's in Greece on vacation, but we're 600 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: going to try to get the champion. And you know 601 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: I would dissuade him from turning around quickly and fighting 602 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: in Abu Dhabi. I think it's going to be Shavkat rockmana, 603 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: but I don't think he should do so quickly. That's 604 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: really not that far off from right now. But the 605 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: strength and conditioning commitment can flow. Like I wonder for 606 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: a work like you, Kenny, what would you have done 607 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 1: with fifteen months in the middle of your fighting prime, 608 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: knowing you're probably gonna fight Leon Edwards? Right, what would 609 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: you have done the fuck with that time? 610 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 3: Right? 611 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: Not steroids? 612 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 3: Right? 613 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: You do fucking squats and you wrestle, and man, he wrestled. 614 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: He looked in a lot of parts like some of 615 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: these elite wrestlers that you know, just able to do what. 616 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's comed he can't fucking stop it. 617 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 5: He looked phenomenal physically, technically, spiritually, he was just at 618 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 5: a different level man. And you know, certainly the things 619 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 5: that go outside the cage can fuel him, and I 620 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 5: think that was the case, but it also can be 621 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 5: a burden on you that's in the back of your mind, that. 622 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: Is a certain level of stress that you're dealing with. 623 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 5: Of course, I'm talking about what's happening in Gaza, and 624 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 5: you know, his family members, everything he's doing, so you 625 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 5: know the fact that he was able to pull this off, 626 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 5: you know, just kind of makes it all the more 627 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 5: impressive to me. 628 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: No, I'm just blown away the whole experience. Really, I'm 629 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: overwhelmed with emotion for him, his family. You just talk 630 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: about the work though that he's put in John and 631 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: over and over again. You know some of these moments 632 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: where UFC three hundred, you're hearing three other names for 633 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: Leon Edwards, none of which are Bala Mohammed. And ultimately 634 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: you know he did what he needed to do. He 635 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: lost this. So there are so many different things that 636 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: I have in my notes here Ken Flow, and I 637 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: don't know how much of these you actually want to 638 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: get into. But as far as the Mixed Martial Arts 639 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: is concerned, and shout out to Mike Valley, Valley Flow 640 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: Striking Academy, Harassio Gutierrez, Mike Cannon, and. 641 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: Most notably Lt. 642 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: Lewis Taylor, Balam Mohammad's right hand man dating to high school. 643 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 5: The fact that Bellaal was able to pull this off 644 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 5: in this manner in England, you could see he got 645 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 5: out there early. He was even his warm up was impressive. 646 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 5: If you look at his warm up, what he did backstage, 647 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 5: it looked like it was kind of having that Morob 648 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 5: style warm up. I mean backstage it looked like he 649 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 5: was fighting there with his sparring partner prior to the fight, 650 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 5: but he came in ready because of it. 651 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you love technical issues. 652 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 5: I know. 653 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: Well, I've been trying to go live every Monday morning, 654 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: especially after pay per views at eleven am Eastern, and 655 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: I have AT and T, I have Exfinity, So if 656 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: this is going to be a problem, I'm gonna freak out. 657 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: But there's so much I want to get into when 658 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: it comes to this fight. Ray Longo scheduled to join 659 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: us here in a few minutes as well, but a 660 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: lot more when it comes to Blow Muhammed. And as 661 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: my technical difficulties came, I was acknowledging Mike Valley, Valley 662 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: Flow Striking Academy, Can Flow, Harassio Gutierrez, Lewis Taylor, longtime 663 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: right hand man of Balaal Integral and all of this 664 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: in this World Championship. Mike Cannon right lt was the 665 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: guy who won a million bucks in the PFL, and 666 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: Blow Muhammed of course was in the corner that night. 667 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: They have all been so committed to this cause, and 668 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: they've had a lot of doubters and they shut them 669 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: all up this weekend. 670 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean just this the team, the way that 671 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 5: they kind of trained together. You know, when then when 672 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 5: Ballall was doing a run, they all went on a 673 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,959 Speaker 5: run together. You know, everything they're doing, they're doing together. 674 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 5: They were there to support Ballall from the beginning. And 675 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 5: you know, that's the kind of stuff that you know, 676 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 5: will fuel you as a fighter. When you have so 677 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 5: many people behind you, so many people that believe in you, 678 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 5: so many people that will show up for trading sessions 679 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 5: and give one hundred percent each and every time. 680 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: That's the stuff that's going to make you better. 681 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 5: And it is very evident that Ballall has a great 682 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 5: team around him, from his sparring partners. 683 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: To his coaches. 684 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 5: And what's pretty crazy is that they don't get a 685 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 5: whole lot of respect. Like, you know, they're not that 686 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 5: team that everyone talks about. But I think people are 687 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 5: going to start talking about them now and they absolutely 688 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 5: deserve credit. And you know, obviously the fighter Ballall in 689 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 5: this case, it does make a difference. But it's one 690 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 5: thing to go out there and win and you know, 691 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 5: squeeze out a win, but when you're taking the right 692 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 5: approach from a tactic standpoint, from a strategic standpoint, and 693 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 5: executing like someone like Bellall. It's it's really really impressive. 694 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 3: Ray. How you doing, man, Hey, can you see me? 695 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: I can see you. I could see you got your 696 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: head cut off a little bit. But there we go, 697 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: we go. 698 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: It mean just me and you today. 699 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 5: Well we lost Jason and John. I think they're going 700 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 5: to try to come back on it. We're having some 701 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 5: technical difficulties, my man. But yeah, So Ray, first of all, 702 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 5: Ballall pulled off an upset. 703 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: Man. Well, first of all, did you see this as 704 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: a big upset? 705 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: Uh? I didn't see that as a big upset, but 706 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 3: but I did think Leon was going to win the fight. 707 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: So you know, to me, that wasn't like an upset. 708 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: But uh, I think this is what I like about 709 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 3: the fight first off, and I'm base it based on 710 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: I guess the previous fights. This is a guy that 711 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 3: came out Kenny, and you know he wanted to win. 712 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 3: He took chances, he went forward right from the beginning. 713 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 3: After the first three minutes when I was watching with 714 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 3: a couple of guys, Uh, he's he was already a winner. 715 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 3: To me, he really was. He was already a win. 716 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: I don't care how that fight went. He went out 717 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 3: and went for it and it ended up paying off 718 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 3: for him. But you know, I think, yeah, so, you know, 719 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 3: hats off to Ballal. I mean, you could see he 720 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 3: wanted it, He had his method of victory, he stuck 721 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: to his game plan. But there's something and I love Leon. 722 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 3: I love his team. You know, they tried to motivate 723 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 3: him again, you know that stuff. He can't get too 724 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 3: many of those out right. You can have that one 725 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: one moment, but then after that, it's it's tough. But 726 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 3: I just feel like he's a tortured soul sometimes and 727 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 3: he's such a nice guy, but when I look at him, 728 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 3: it just looks sometimes like he doesn't even want. 729 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: To be there. 730 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: It's it's, it's, it's and it's heartbreaking to me. So 731 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: I think that kind of takes away from what Ballal did, 732 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 3: not not takes away, but optics wise takes away from 733 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 3: what he did. But man, did he go for it. 734 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 3: And God bless him. Man, he you know, he believed 735 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 3: in his heart he could win that fight. And I 736 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 3: think that's uh, that was that was beautiful. Yeah. 737 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think Leon is so technical that 738 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 5: it's very difficult for guys to get past that technique. 739 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 5: And by that I mean he's able to dictate the 740 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 5: range really well. He kind of strikes what he wants 741 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 5: to strike. He's able to control the range really well. 742 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 5: And he likes to fight comfortable, and this, to me, 743 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 5: was a fight where he wasn't able to do that. 744 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 5: He was not comfortable, and it was like the perfect 745 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 5: game plan from Ballall he got in his face, he 746 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 5: made it up, he made it chaotic, and he forced 747 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 5: Leon to throw a lot more strikes than he wanted to. 748 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 3: I think that that's the key. He couldn't get comfortable 749 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 3: because the other guy wasn't cooperating. And I you know, 750 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 3: when I as I was looking at that fight, I 751 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 3: couldn't help but think I really feel that's what Moron's 752 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 3: going to do to Himmalley. You know what I mean, 753 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 3: He's gonna make the same thing everything you gotta. You 754 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 3: gotta punch your way in. You're gonna sit on the 755 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 3: outside with a guy like Leon and just try to 756 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 3: pick your shots. Not gonna work, right. So that's what 757 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 3: he did. He kind of panic punched his way, not 758 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 3: panic punched, but he was going forward. He's gonna throw something, 759 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: and when you have the wrestling behind that it's a 760 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 3: different story. Like imagine, if he didn't have the wrestling 761 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 3: to go with that, it could have been a long 762 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 3: night for him. Eventually, you know, it wears off. But 763 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 3: with the wrestling, it was absolutely phenomenal. He he punched 764 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 3: his way in, he didn't give his ship, and he 765 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 3: got what he wanted. And I see the same path 766 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 3: of victory from a rob. Yea, all right, I'm not 767 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 3: gonna sit here and let you fire one shot at me. 768 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 3: But let's let's let's make it a fucking fight, man, 769 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 3: Let's get dirty and see what happens, you know. 770 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 5: Ry To me, the most shocking aspect was the fact 771 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 5: that Ballall was so dominant with his takedown game. Yeah, 772 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 5: did that surprise you, because again, he's not this d 773 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 5: one wrest Olympic wrestler, but every time he got in 774 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 5: those legs, he pretty much took him down. 775 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you know, based on what you know, the 776 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 3: use Vine then the Covington, Yeah you thought it was that. 777 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 3: I thought that was a bit of a surprise. I 778 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 3: thought he would be able to do a better job 779 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 3: with the takedowns. But you know, this is one of 780 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 3: those fights and we always say it every well, not everybody. 781 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 3: I mean, Ballow wasn't that much of an underdog. I 782 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 3: don't think right with that. But you know, the only guy, 783 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 3: you know, like nobody let Ballalin on the message that 784 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 3: I mean nobody, Yeah, that he was supposed to lose, 785 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 3: you know, that's what you know. It's almost like severa 786 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 3: gesp all those fights, you know what I mean. The 787 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 3: guy that's when he has total belief in himself, and 788 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 3: he does. 789 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: He was plus two twenty. He was plus two dad, 790 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 1: So that's. 791 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 3: That's that's a fair that's yeah, that's pretty big. But 792 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, he definitely he didn't get 793 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 3: the memo that he was plus two twenty. He got 794 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 3: the memo that he was minus two twenty. That's what 795 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 3: it looked like. That's you know, you know what I mean. 796 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 3: Like and that's the way he handled business. I thought 797 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 3: it was from an attitude standpoint, a plus plus. 798 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 799 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 5: You could see as soon as he walked out there, Man, 800 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 5: he just seemed really comfortable and just the start of 801 00:37:59,480 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 5: that fight. 802 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, Leo for a fight, Leo for a fight. 803 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 3: I tell you, they should never pan the camera over 804 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 3: a Hunter and Dana. It's just for looking good, Like 805 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 3: in the fourth round, it was like, you know, it 806 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 3: got the you know, it's funny, Kenny. After the second round, 807 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 3: it's not. You kind of knew Bollau was gonna win. 808 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 3: It was whether he would gas out, which he wasn't 809 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 3: going to do. Now, well, the other guy pulls off 810 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 3: another miracle somehow that was it. So I don't know, 811 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 3: Like again, I love I love Leon's team. I love Leon. 812 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 3: He's just a nice guy. But I just feel like 813 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 3: this like a tortured soul in me. I looked and 814 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 3: it's like, optics wise, I feel for the guy. 815 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: I think we got John A. Jason back. What's up? 816 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 3: No way? 817 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: Sorry, guys, Ray Long go minute every week on the 818 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: Fucking anak Im Florian podcast. You know, I'm working so 819 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: hard on my mental health these days, in some part 820 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: to not let things like Wi Fi bother me to 821 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: the extent to which they do. Seems like it's back 822 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: right now. I just had the backup setup. So I 823 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what you guys discussed and did not, 824 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: but it sounds like you were getting into Leon Edwards 825 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: and he was listless at times in this fight, almost 826 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: deer in the headlights. And I still believe he is 827 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: one of the very best welterweights in the world. Ray 828 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: I still believe that he is the toughest matchup for 829 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: Balam Muhammad when he is on, with respect to Shavkatt, 830 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 1: Rochmanhov and everybody else. But I don't know, man, the optics, 831 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: some of the visuals when it came to Leon Edwards, 832 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was And again we're not 833 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: in the excuse making business. Bilau was ready to go, 834 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: but Jay and I felt like maybe for some of 835 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: the English athletes fighting at this time would be would 836 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: be harder than for some people who are coming over 837 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: just for a short amount of time. 838 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh well, that's another good point, man. I was 839 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 3: somebody said that during the fight, like it was five 840 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning. I think that's almost that's brutalty, 841 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, what do they have, 842 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 3: like elder abust this was fighter abuse making them fight 843 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 3: at five o'clock in the morning. I mean, that's that's 844 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 3: got to be tough, man. And I think early in 845 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 3: the morning is different, But when you have to go 846 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 3: through the night like that, I think that has to 847 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 3: be a major problem. But I look like I told 848 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 3: Kenny this is what I said, John, is that after 849 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 3: the first two minutes, I considered Balala winner already. I 850 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 3: really did go. This guy's a lot of I don't 851 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 3: even care what happens. You know why, John, Because this 852 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 3: guy went out and he wanted, he forced his way forward, 853 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 3: he got what he wanted. He was there to fight. 854 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 3: That was unequivocally very obvious. This guy was there to 855 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 3: win that title. And I'm just gonna I'm not gonna 856 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 3: say juxtaposed. I don't even know if that's the right word. 857 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,479 Speaker 3: Like Macaia and Cape they put on this whole ship 858 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 3: and then they went in there and it was kind 859 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 3: of listless like that. Who wanted to win that fight? Right? 860 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 3: Blaw made a fucking statement by walking forward, So I 861 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 3: didn't even care if he lost. To me, he was 862 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 3: a winner just by having the attitudes like that. That's 863 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,720 Speaker 3: what I was saying. But the other guy, Cape and Macaya, 864 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 3: this is my recommend nation to the UFC. Next time, 865 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 3: let them fight at the fucking way and let them go. 866 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 3: I will at least we'll see what's happening. Yeah, let 867 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 3: him go, because I tell you what, waiting and letting 868 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 3: them Writing in the Octa gown with all the charade 869 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 3: and the security and there let the security Outkai. 870 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: Isn't going to have that shot anymore. 871 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I believe at that pool guy if. 872 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 1: That's wanted to settle it in the streets or at 873 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: the way, and I mean that's what they wanted. 874 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 3: Ray. 875 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: I know you kind of say that tongue in cheek. Yeah, yeah, 876 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: because you know we've come so far as the sport. 877 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: But I agree, man, right, that might have been a 878 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: better fight. 879 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 3: Definitely tongue in cheek. I'm trying to be funny, but Jesus, yeah, no, 880 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 3: I know after something like that, they built the build up. 881 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 3: So that was the one fight on that car I 882 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 3: really wanted to see, like really, that's right, I understand 883 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 3: interested in and you know, you know what happened. I 884 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 3: was I'm not saying this as a goofble, but we 885 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 3: were shooting the movie at the gym, so I was 886 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 3: back and forth into the of the U waiting area. 887 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 3: I had the computer set up and we were watching 888 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 3: the fights. So I didn't really get a good look. 889 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 3: When I went back and looked at it. You know, look, 890 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 3: it was a technical fight. It wasn't exciting, but I can't. 891 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 3: I think it was better when I looked at it 892 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 3: the second time, when I was at the gym and 893 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 3: I was getting called out and called in every time 894 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 3: I came back, nothing was going on at all. So 895 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 3: to me, the whole two is like that. But when 896 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 3: I looked at it, you know, they had to be careful. 897 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 3: It was kind of technical. But still, I don't know, 898 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 3: after the antics and all the crap, how do you 899 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 3: do that? 900 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: Man? Well, John, you're back, hear me. I know we're 901 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 1: live and we apologized. Yeah, John John may have to 902 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: refresh and. 903 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 3: Come back, John John. M John John might have to 904 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 3: take his ANIX. Let's face it. We're not down, Kenny. 905 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 3: We're not down to Wi Fi right now? Went down there. 906 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 3: It's a venture with medication. That's what he needs something 907 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 3: to be because he's gonna make it. 908 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, Jason's right across room, so Jason's probably gonna get 909 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 5: hit with something. But I kind of wanted to move 910 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 5: on to the other title fight. Tommy Aspinall took on 911 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 5: Curtis Blades. Wasn't the longest fight, yeah, but Aspinall did 912 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 5: what Aspinall does. I mean, the guy moves like a 913 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 5: cat is striking his devastating it was a jab that 914 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 5: dropped initially, What do you think of his performance and 915 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 5: what do you think of the stoppage? 916 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: Was it too early for you? 917 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 3: I tell you, I think his performance was perfect. It's 918 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 3: exactly what he should have did. I'll tell you that's funny. 919 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 3: Everybody thought he got hit with the right hand, I know, 920 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 3: and then when they went back it was just a 921 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 3: jeb which that's never a good look. But you know, 922 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 3: but based on that, you know, he told he wasn't out, 923 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 3: but the other guy did what he was supposed to do. 924 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 3: He kept hitting him, even though I'm not saying everything 925 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 3: was landed. My initial reaction was it was stopped a 926 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 3: little early. But if he keeps going like that, it's 927 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 3: just you got to stop it, you know what I mean. 928 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 3: So aspinall, he did exactly what he was supposed to do. 929 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,879 Speaker 3: He wasn't going to let that guy off the hook, 930 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 3: and he was he was throwing was it you know 931 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 3: who knows blades. I don't think was too upset either, 932 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 3: I mean, at least at least in his statement after. 933 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 3: But at the time I thought it was a little 934 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 3: too early for a big fight like that. And uh, 935 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 3: but blades when you went back and looked he really 936 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 3: wasn't reacting the right way either. I mean, that's all 937 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 3: part of the game. You know, you have to sometimes 938 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 3: you got to be an actor in there too. You 939 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 3: gotta act, you gotta know sell it, you got to 940 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 3: keep moving. He just didn't do the right things, I 941 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 3: don't think, so hats off to Aspen all. 942 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, well, so much of it is optics, right, 943 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 5: And when I saw when I saw Curtis blades go flat, 944 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 5: it looked like it might have been from a punch, 945 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 5: you know, looked like maybe he was out and then 946 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 5: you know, it was a couple of shots after. But 947 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,439 Speaker 5: I think it was just like the application of weight 948 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 5: from Aspen all that and wackened him out. But you know, 949 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 5: when a lot of things going on, and you know, 950 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 5: a lot of things transpiring and that quick of a time, 951 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 5: you know, maybe the referee thought that, ah, he's he's out, 952 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 5: and you know was back in. 953 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 3: So that Yeah, Kenny, those big guys they don't move 954 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,760 Speaker 3: like cats down That's why he asked me. Is pretty 955 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 3: cool because he is pretty quick, but it's not easy 956 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 3: for those guys to start scrambling on the floor like that. 957 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 3: So I think you got to give him a little 958 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 3: more time to build back up. 959 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: But uh, that's just me. 960 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 3: I mean it doesn't matter. But Aspinall did, like again, 961 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 3: he did exactly what he had to do, and he 962 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 3: just you know, he deserves to be where he's at. 963 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 3: And I think it sets up for a big, big 964 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 3: confrontation with Jones with steep A, whatever they decide to 965 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:32,439 Speaker 3: do with that fight. 966 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 5: So what do you think of that announcement? Now I'm 967 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 5: not sure Jones is going to take that fight, but 968 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 5: it looks like the announcement from data is that the 969 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 5: winner of steep A and John Jones will fight Aspinall. 970 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 5: I guess the take on that is, what do you 971 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,280 Speaker 5: think about that announcement? And do you think it's actually 972 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 5: going to happen? 973 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 3: You know, I think I think we touched on this 974 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 3: a week or two go. But you know, the con 975 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 3: is that Jones they're just not reliable, not even you know, 976 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 3: it's it's not just being healthy getting to the fights. 977 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 3: Do they do something stupid outside? You know what I mean? 978 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 3: Like there's always there's always an issue. So like as 979 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 3: a as a promoter, Kenny, you can't really you gotta 980 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 3: like tap you know, tip toe around everything because you 981 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 3: don't know if they're going to make it to the fight. 982 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 3: And it has nothing sometimes to even do with the fight, 983 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,280 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Somebody's hitting somebody, somebody's getting 984 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 3: in trouble, somebody's doing this, doing that. So what I 985 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 3: think of the announcement is, I don't really I'm not 986 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 3: going to get excited until the night of the fight. 987 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 3: That's what I think the announcement, you know what I mean, 988 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 3: it's like one of those deals, like it's they just 989 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 3: did it too many times, I think. 990 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 5: Anyway, But well, I'm going to add to the p 991 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 5: and the cheerios there right because I think I think John, 992 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,439 Speaker 5: I don't think John's even going to take that fight 993 00:46:54,600 --> 00:47:00,439 Speaker 5: from a legacy preservation standpoint, meaning I think he knows 994 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 5: that Aspatall is in his prime right now and God 995 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 5: Jones isn't. 996 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: And I just don't see him risking his legacy to 997 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: take that fire. I don't know. 998 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 3: I yeah, listen, I'm addressing is steep A and him 999 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 3: even gonna happen? You know, they announced the other guy 1000 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 3: will be the backup fight, So if they announced him 1001 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 3: to be the backup fight and Steve a's forty two, 1002 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 3: forty three, whatever he is now, Jones is gonna have 1003 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 3: to accept it, Kenny, because that could happen. 1004 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: That way better scenario for asking. 1005 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, Like these guys, 1006 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 3: they're not young anymore. Anything could happen, you know, And 1007 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 3: I think Steve as working full time as a fireman 1008 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 3: that you know, something could happen. Who knows, a lot 1009 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 3: of things could go wrong, so aspinall, he could be 1010 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 3: fighting that night and there's nothing John could do about it. 1011 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 3: As far as protecting his legacy, I think uberus and 1012 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 3: narcissism Wloway's. I don't know about that. I think he 1013 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,280 Speaker 3: goes for it. Yeah, I don't think his His legacy 1014 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 3: is already destroyed by everything else. I don't think he's 1015 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 3: got to worry about that to me anyway, right, you 1016 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 3: know he's going to be remembered for certain shitty things. Also, Yeah, 1017 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 3: I say he's got to go for it to kind 1018 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 3: of eliminate that. 1019 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: Well, we actually have a guest here. We got big Ron. 1020 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,280 Speaker 2: Big round to save today. 1021 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: What's happened? 1022 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 7: Boys are struggling today with the wife and hold on, 1023 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 7: Why do I look short? 1024 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:36,399 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1025 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 3: Trust me, Big run. You don't look shuret that's. 1026 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: What I am. 1027 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 5: Not taller than big Ron, I can assure everybody what's happening. 1028 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 5: What was your take on the fights, Like, what was 1029 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 5: the thing that surprised you the most? 1030 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: Wrong? 1031 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 7: The thing that surprised me the most was I kept 1032 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,760 Speaker 7: waiting for I don't know, I just I was obviously 1033 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 7: rooting for balal I bet I'm bala about it, but 1034 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 7: I'm like waiting for Leon to show that spark, you know, 1035 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 7: and waiting for it. Bro, he just got demralized from 1036 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,879 Speaker 7: the first second of the first round. 1037 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, that wants to tell because he's got the same 1038 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 3: facial expression. He's got the same facial expression if he's 1039 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 3: winning or if he's frustrated. It's hard to even tell 1040 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 3: what's going on, you know. So uh, yeah, that's it was. 1041 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 3: It was really uh, it was really a wildlife. It 1042 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 3: was almost surreal. Yeah, And I'll tell you you know, 1043 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 3: you knew as you were watching the fight, at least 1044 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 3: I did, Like you knew there were going to be 1045 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 3: people that were going to be very unhappy the way 1046 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 3: the fight was going. I want to just based on 1047 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 3: the way the night was going, with the decisions and 1048 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 3: everything like that. You you just know that, you know, 1049 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 3: like I did one Contender series, the Contender Series Bazooka 1050 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 3: fought on and won but didn't get picked at that time. 1051 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 3: But that night, as it went on, the first couple 1052 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 3: of fights, A going, no, this is not good. You know, Dan, 1053 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 3: it's just going to be pissed. I could tell by 1054 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,919 Speaker 3: the way the fights are going. And then it sets 1055 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 3: a tempo. It sets that tempo for everything else that's 1056 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,280 Speaker 3: going to be that rath that's coming down the line, 1057 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I just knew good 1058 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 3: going in. You just knew watching the fight that's what's 1059 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 3: gonna happen. As much as Baala was just on point 1060 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 3: his takedowns, that high crotch, he's dumping them on his head, 1061 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 3: I mean, he was. It was crazy. He definitely manhandled them, 1062 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 3: man handled. 1063 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 5: Is there any chance and because there was a dominant 1064 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 5: performance from bag is there any chance the UFC does 1065 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 5: a rematch to make it a trilogy? 1066 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,240 Speaker 3: That's uh not right away the media? 1067 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't think, And I don't think Leon 1068 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: deserves it at this stage. 1069 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't think so, I don't I think, uh, 1070 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 3: I don't think. Yeah, look, look, you don't know what 1071 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 3: goes on behind closed doors. That's why that's why I say, 1072 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 3: like I was saying, Ron Leon and I love the guy. 1073 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 3: He's a beautiful guy in person. Trust me, he's a 1074 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 3: very you know, just almost like the way he looks 1075 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 3: while he's fighting, it's the same thing. But he I 1076 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 3: feel like that what I saw was like a torched 1077 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 3: soul in there, like something deeper could be going on. 1078 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 3: And I think that's why he probably does have to 1079 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 3: take a break. I just like, I'm not saying he 1080 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 3: looked like he didn't want to be there, but he 1081 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 3: just didn't look man. It just didn't look optics wise. 1082 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,320 Speaker 3: It looked like he was just very lethargic and you know, 1083 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 3: all right, let's just sit here for a while. And 1084 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 3: there was no urgency put it that way. 1085 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 7: Well, I mean to me, it definitely seemed like well 1086 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 7: to me, it definitely seemed like he put like seemed 1087 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 7: like a little pushback he gave. He thought like like 1088 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 7: Bla was gonna wither or something by striking, and BLA 1089 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 7: just kept pumping that jab in on that and pushing 1090 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 7: him back. And I mean he did exactly. Me and 1091 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 7: Jay had you know, a conversation about it. He did 1092 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 7: exactly what what he said he was going to do, 1093 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 7: and he went out and did it better than I 1094 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 7: thought any of us thought he could do. To be quiet, honest, 1095 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 7: it was an extremely impressive performance. Yeah, dominated twenty one 1096 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 7: and twenty five minutes of that. 1097 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 3: Fight one hundred percent. And I was talking to Kenny 1098 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,360 Speaker 3: about that. You you said it. He did what he 1099 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,399 Speaker 3: wanted he said he was going to do, whereas Cap 1100 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 3: and Makaiah they didn't do what they said they were 1101 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 3: going to do. And that's why I gave it up 1102 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 3: to bellaal more than anything. He really went in there 1103 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 3: to win that fight. 1104 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 1: Well, we have John back. What's up, dude? Yeah, I'm 1105 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 1: fucking really pissed off right now, I imagine. 1106 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 3: Right now? All right, but they the show must go on. 1107 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,280 Speaker 3: We got to keep moving and how about box breathing? 1108 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: Are we still live right now? On the Annaicmploring podcast, 1109 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 1: Draft Kings Channel. We thank you guys for carrying the 1110 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 1: mail while I was gone. Thanks to everybody for joining us. 1111 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I had technical difficulties. I went on Instagram 1112 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 1: live try to drive some people over here on my 1113 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 1: way to my twin brother's house where I now am 1114 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: because my wife I failed me. So a lot of 1115 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: different things that I want to get into still on 1116 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 1: Ballah Muhammad, But it sounds as though you pivoted to 1117 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 1: Tom Aspinall. Where do we stand right now as far 1118 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 1: as this conversation is concerned. Yeah, what do you think? 1119 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 1: Are we passed after? We're talking about Tommy? What are 1120 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: you guys talking about? 1121 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, we went through you know, whether the fight, whether 1122 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 3: I thought the fight we stopped early? How tom all 1123 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 3: that stuff is. 1124 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is interesting, I do think and perhaps you 1125 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 1: touched on this that Tom Aspinall really looks forward to 1126 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 1: accruing some minutes in the octagon against one of these 1127 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 1: guys because he tried to nap for four six hours 1128 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 1: and was unable to do so. You know, he went 1129 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 1: I think from seven am Saturday morning through the fight 1130 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 1: without sleeping, and had he been forced to fight into 1131 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: a fourth or fifth round, perhaps that would have reared 1132 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 1: its ugly hit. You know, there were a lot of 1133 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: different variables when it came to UH to the start time, 1134 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 1: but it kind of is what it is for broadcasters 1135 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 1: and UH and fighters arelike, you know, one thing I 1136 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 1: will say and we'll dive back into the fight card. 1137 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 1: But I said to DC and Michael bisbeing after the 1138 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 1: early prelims as we stood up to do our ESPN 1139 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 1: two on camera portion Ken flow, I was fucking toast, 1140 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, And shortly thereafter I got my second wind. 1141 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 1: I felt great the rest of the night. 1142 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 3: You don't know. 1143 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 1: Exactly where you'll feel your worst, but that was certainly 1144 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 1: when I felt my worst. Have we just had a 1145 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 1: pimblet rack? 1146 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 3: Wait, not yet, but John, so you definitely felt it 1147 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 3: was a strain on your body to do what you did. 1148 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm not in the business of making excuses, right, 1149 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 1: but like, I can't ever remember feeling worse when relatively healthy. Yeah, yeah, 1150 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 1: and I did at the beginning of the early prelalms, 1151 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,800 Speaker 1: which I guess was one am local time, but I 1152 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,959 Speaker 1: napped during the day. I'm not competing as an athlete. 1153 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 3: Right, it is, but it's not easy, man, I mean, 1154 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 3: that's and that circadian rhythm is no fucking joke, no joke, 1155 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 3: not to me, because I was telling Kenny I was 1156 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 3: watching at the gym. We were shooting the movie, and 1157 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 3: you know, you get out of here at three thirty 1158 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 3: in the morning and you're going since three in the afternoon. 1159 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 3: It's it's freaking It's brutal to me. I think that 1160 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 3: that waiting around Kenny is just brutal. 1161 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 1: You know. 1162 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 5: I've never onto the UK and not felt like crap. 1163 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 5: I mean every single time, I'm just freud for like 1164 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 5: the first two or three days. I don't know why, 1165 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 5: but yeah, that's what it is. 1166 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 3: It's tough, man, but Tatsu for you, John, for even 1167 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 3: it's not easy for you. We either just to keep 1168 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 3: the excitement in the you know, everything flowing. 1169 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: Man, it's hard. This job is so unique to broadcasting 1170 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 1: as far as the requisite endurance you need to get 1171 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: through eight hours and peeling back the curtain a little bit. 1172 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: And I don't know how long you have Ray, what 1173 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,800 Speaker 1: time you got to get out of here noon eastern 1174 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:26,320 Speaker 1: or so or what? 1175 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, right around there. 1176 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,240 Speaker 1: But just in terms of like the top of the show, 1177 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 1: even before I sort of do my on camera open 1178 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 1: with the arrivals and all the sponsors and everything else, 1179 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 1: I'm probably talking for two and a half minutes before 1180 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,800 Speaker 1: i even come on camera, So just making sure that 1181 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 1: my rhythm is right and I'm pausing and everything else, 1182 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,879 Speaker 1: all right, Patty pimblet over King Green if we could 1183 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 1: go there by technical station. The triangle chow comes at 1184 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 1: three twenty two of round one, and I just really 1185 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for Patty pimblet Ray the 1186 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 1: way he has approached a lot of things when it 1187 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 1: comes to his career. He was twenty one and three 1188 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: as a pro entering this fight. The USC try to 1189 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: sign him when he was twenty one. He said, I'm 1190 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 1: not ready. They tried to sign him when he was 1191 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,320 Speaker 1: twenty three. He said he wasn't ready. And when we 1192 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 1: first sat down with him in a fighter meeting six 1193 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,640 Speaker 1: UFC wins ago, he said, I'm a proper athlete now 1194 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,359 Speaker 1: and I'm ready to do this thing. And even though 1195 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 1: in the court of public opinion he's not going to 1196 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 1: win every battle, he's a really good kid. I love 1197 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 1: listening to him talk and I really like watching him fight. 1198 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, Kat's off the pimlet. I thought 1199 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 3: Bobby Green was going to win the fight. But you know, 1200 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 3: I think sometimes I go win Ni because all the 1201 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 3: commotion about people, you had that bias, like she's another 1202 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 3: guy there trying to build up. But look, he did 1203 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:40,240 Speaker 3: what he had to do. Nice jiu jitsu. Why Bobby, 1204 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 3: I mean, the only way for the I thought for 1205 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 3: the guy to win the fight would be on the floor. 1206 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 3: Why Bobby Green would stick his head and kneel like that, Jenny, 1207 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:53,279 Speaker 3: I mean, the shit drives me nuts. It's baffling, man. 1208 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:58,359 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I walked away for this whole night, 1209 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 3: not a happy camp, just like everything was, you know, 1210 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 3: even when somebody you know said the thing about Makay 1211 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 3: of getting cut and I'm like, I just don't even 1212 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 3: know what's going on anymore. But then Bobby Green just 1213 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 3: stuck his head in there. I don't know, whatever, What 1214 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 3: do I know, Kenny? 1215 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 1: Kenny, what do you have for us on that? Some 1216 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,919 Speaker 1: people would suggest that things happen in an MMA fight, 1217 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: and I guess made me as somewhat ignorant. Van would 1218 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 1: like to give King Green the benefit of the doubt 1219 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 1: that maybe he just got caught up in the storm 1220 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 1: a little bit. But what do you have for us 1221 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 1: on Patty Pimblet and that short fight? To me, this 1222 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 1: was a lack of patience from Bobby Green. 1223 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 5: It seemed like he just wanted to do something for 1224 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 5: the sake of doing something. You know, both guys that 1225 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 5: weren't really landing a whole lot on the feet. There 1226 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 5: was a lot, like so much space between them. They 1227 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 5: were both like missing on a lot of punches, it seemed. 1228 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 5: But if you're breaking down this fight and you're looking 1229 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 5: at this opponent in Patty Pimblin, the one way you 1230 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 5: lose is by going to the ground. And Bobby Green 1231 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 5: decided to go into the strength of Patty Pimblin. Now, 1232 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 5: this was an absolutely gorgeous transition by Patty Pimblein, but 1233 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 5: it wouldn't have happened without the initiation from Bobby Green. 1234 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 5: He shot a takedown, had his neck sticking out there 1235 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 5: on that arm in guillotine, Patty transitioned to a beautiful 1236 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 5: triangle choke, and credit to Bobby Green, who really fought 1237 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 5: his ass off to try to get out there an 1238 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 5: absolute warrior. 1239 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 1: He never tapped. 1240 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 5: Hopefully his arm is okay because he was out already, 1241 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 5: which looked like he was out and Patty's cranking away 1242 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 5: at his arm could have broken it. Thankfully, the referee 1243 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 5: saw it in time before there was major damage. But man, 1244 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 5: this is just kind of like just another kind of 1245 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 5: poor decision from Bobby Green, who at times looks phenomenal 1246 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 5: and other times just kind of looks listless or just 1247 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 5: looks like he doesn't really or I guess just acting 1248 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 5: like a rookie out there. So it was a confusing 1249 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 5: performance from Bobby Green, who really is a talented guy, 1250 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 5: really is tough when he's on his game, But that 1251 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 5: was not one of his knights. 1252 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's a big loss for him 1253 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 3: to that's not that's not gonna farewell on his goal. 1254 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 1: That would change his career. You beat someone like Patty, 1255 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 1: and Patty for Patty, he. 1256 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 5: Looked phenomenal, like you know, that's a big win for him, 1257 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 5: you know, getting that win, you know that's gonna move 1258 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 5: him up the ranking, is going to get him respect 1259 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 5: for sure. 1260 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, I think Bobby Green missed on that one. 1261 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 1: But just a gorgeous transition and. 1262 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 3: Fit without of that. As a jiu jitsu guy, you 1263 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 3: gotta love it. But just fighter right Q wise, Fighter 1264 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 3: right Q is a real thing. It's a real thing, 1265 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 3: and win is know how to win, and they have 1266 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 3: a great IQ. And that's why there's only a certain 1267 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 3: amount of guys that make it to the top. I'm 1268 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 3: gonna say some Kenny, you'll probably like this. I'm not 1269 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 3: you know, I'm not a big like grappling, you know, 1270 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 3: the jiu jitsu, like watching it, but al Jamaine Sterling 1271 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 3: did something in combat karate and it was probably went 1272 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 3: into overtime. I think, I don't want to mistate it. 1273 00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 3: But he was behind Kenny with twenty seconds to go 1274 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 3: and he ended up winning that fight. I'm saying, win 1275 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,440 Speaker 3: is no how to fucking win, how Joe. You know, 1276 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 3: when I saw my I'm not even into that like 1277 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 3: like that, I was blown away by that. He did 1278 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 3: not want to take that out. It didn't even mean anything. 1279 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 3: You know, he's fighting at the right combat but his 1280 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 3: instincts that those were his instincts. Man, win is no 1281 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 3: how to win. He came back and won that. That 1282 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 3: grappling match was fun. I thought it was phenomenal. I 1283 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 3: really did. If you get a chance watch it. 1284 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: He went, that was a beautiful lot advancement of position 1285 01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 1: at the very end. Yeah, well we could see it. 1286 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, it was. 1287 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 3: I thought that was cool. Man. I mean, like again, 1288 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 3: I thought he was like looked like he was dead 1289 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 3: in the water. He pulled that out and that that 1290 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 3: that's what I'm talking about, Like Bobby Green. Yeah, he 1291 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 3: might be entertaining, but you gotta use your goddamn head. 1292 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 3: You just have to You have to fight. You have 1293 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 3: to have that IQ on point. You have to know 1294 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 3: where your strengths are, where your weaknesses are. You know 1295 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 3: how you're going to approach each a pony your face 1296 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 3: and you know it just it just looked like he 1297 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 3: just like you said, he just rushed in for the 1298 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 3: sake of rushing in. 1299 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 1: That's a lot to digest. I agree with some of 1300 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 1: what you guys are saying. I certainly disagree with some 1301 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 1: of what was said about how relatively big an opportunity 1302 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 1: this was for King Green at this stage of his 1303 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: career thirty seven, thirty eight years old. I think getting 1304 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,280 Speaker 1: the Patty Pimblet rubs, so to speak, and fighting him 1305 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 1: on pay per view, as far as maybe his fan 1306 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,439 Speaker 1: base is concerned, resonating with fans in Manchester, he wanted 1307 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 1: to fight in England. That part of it is big. 1308 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 1: But I don't know what a win over Patty Pimblet, 1309 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 1: unranked taking as UFCO really does for King Green at 1310 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 1: this stage of his career. But now it is Patty 1311 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 1: Pimblet who's number fifteen in the world can flow or 1312 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 1: will be. And when you look at the top fifteen, 1313 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 1: guys like Hafeyol Dosanjos, Jalen Turner, Ben Wis, Antony, Dan Hooker, 1314 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 1: Hanato Mokano are those who populate the third half, or 1315 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 1: I guess, the third third of the top fifteen. He 1316 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 1: called out tenth ranking out to Moykano, who's fighting son 1317 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 1: Denis Kenny. I mean, I'm much more focused, I guess 1318 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 1: on the other side, the Patty pimblet submission game, the 1319 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 1: ability to put somebody away. But how competitive do you 1320 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 1: think he is against, say, the bottom half of this 1321 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 1: ruthless lightweight top fifteen. 1322 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 5: Gosh, you know, I think there's some guys he can 1323 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,360 Speaker 5: match up pretty well against. But you know, I look 1324 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 5: at a guy like a Jalen Turner, who's a top 1325 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,479 Speaker 5: matchup at that's a tough matchup. You know, someone who's 1326 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,520 Speaker 5: ranked thirteen. He's massive for the weight, really good striker. 1327 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 5: He can be tough to take down. You know, geez, 1328 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 5: you got Moykano. I think that would be an interesting matchup. 1329 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 5: I actually think he kind of matches up pretty well 1330 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:49,000 Speaker 5: against Wicano, you know. But yeah, I mean, the division 1331 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 5: stacked but I think that he does match up well 1332 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 5: against some of those guys in that top fifteen, maybe 1333 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,480 Speaker 5: some of the guys into the. 1334 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 1: Top of the you know, top end of the top ten. 1335 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 1: But you know, the key for Patty Peblin. 1336 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 5: Is going to be improving his game, you know, holding 1337 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 5: it on his striking and his takedowns, and you know 1338 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,080 Speaker 5: from there he can make huge improvement. 1339 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: So who knows. 1340 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and John Levy, I do agree with you. My 1341 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,200 Speaker 3: point was just the ambiance that this kid brings it 1342 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 3: makes it a bigger fight than if Yeah, he didn't 1343 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 3: have the ambiance. That's what That's all I was trying 1344 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:29,040 Speaker 3: to say, Like it's and it could be that I'm 1345 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,840 Speaker 3: total like confirmation biased or whatever you want to say, Like, 1346 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 3: I just I'm not seeing anything with him yet. And 1347 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 3: I thought Green would be able out strike him, but 1348 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 3: Patty was willing to throw at him too. I mean, 1349 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 3: he's he's he's a tough kid. I mean, so I 1350 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 3: think it was it was more like just the way 1351 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 3: everything's being built up, you know what I mean that. 1352 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:48,400 Speaker 1: That was it. 1353 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,160 Speaker 3: Not that it was a big fight like that, but 1354 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 3: it yeah, just it could it's more of a psychological 1355 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 3: thing to me. 1356 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Patty is a huge following, you know from 1357 01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:58,560 Speaker 1: that standpoint. 1358 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 5: From point yeah yeah, But you're right as far as 1359 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 5: what it does rankings wise. 1360 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 1: Actually, it wasn't like more. 1361 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 3: Uh more deep down in your heart type of stuff. 1362 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,480 Speaker 3: You know, you go in there, you're talking and then 1363 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 3: you lose I I don't know whatever, more like that. 1364 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,880 Speaker 3: But now I agree one, not not in that type 1365 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 3: of way. Definitely not. 1366 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,720 Speaker 1: All right, Ray, thank you for the time. I don't 1367 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 1: know if you have any final thought on UFC three 1368 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 1: oh four. I very much appreciate you stepping up for 1369 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 1: the last half hour. Shout out to Big Ron Pellegrino 1370 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 1: as well. Anything else on UFC three oh four, Ray, 1371 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,480 Speaker 1: before we let you fly, No. 1372 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,160 Speaker 3: I think we touched on everything, all right, right, Kenny. 1373 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you so much, man, and I 1374 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,960 Speaker 1: hope to have more of your time either later this week. 1375 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 1: Let's do maybe at a watch party this weekend for 1376 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 1: sand Haagan and Nirmago Metal. It might be holding pads. 1377 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: I think three pm for the main card, so for 1378 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 1: us it would be like four thirty to six pm, 1379 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 1: so it would make a game time decisions. 1380 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 3: Jo Wi fi fi. We make shit work, Yes, nobody cares. 1381 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,800 Speaker 3: Nobody cares that the Wi fi went on. Do you 1382 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 3: know what they care about? You didn't take no for 1383 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 3: an answer. You went to your brother's house. You got 1384 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 3: the shit done, and here we are. That's it. You 1385 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 3: gotta try, You gotta keep moving forward. We're not sitting 1386 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 3: here and crying about the Wi Fi. We agree on that, right. Yeah, 1387 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 3: let's go next week. We make it happen. 1388 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy. During the week, you're the man. Yeah, 1389 01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,160 Speaker 1: we'll talk later today the very long ago minute Every 1390 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,600 Speaker 1: week here on the Anakin Florin Podcast. If you do 1391 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 1: want to support Ray his T shirt with his face 1392 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 1: on it, punch a hole in his fucking chest, you 1393 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 1: can get right now at John Annak dot com. Also 1394 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 1: Kenny Floran dot com. Is is worth a click, as 1395 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 1: is Corey Sandhagen dot com. As we said earlier, Yeah, dude, 1396 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,040 Speaker 1: a lot to get into. When it comes to UFC 1397 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 1: three to zero four, my notes are still here, unscratched out. 1398 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 1: So did you discuss shop Cott Rockmanov? We did not, 1399 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 1: all right, So that's why I'm here as the host 1400 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,440 Speaker 1: of this podcast, with all due respect to you and 1401 01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 1: ran everybody else. Because to move on to tom aspinall 1402 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 1: without talking about shop Gott Rockmanov. I think is a 1403 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,600 Speaker 1: little bit disingenuous because I do believe he'll be the 1404 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 1: guy Kenny and he'll probably be favored to beat Balao Muhammad. Now. 1405 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,240 Speaker 1: One of the worst career decisions I thought Jessica and 1406 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 1: joj Ever made after she slamm Rose nama Unis on 1407 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 1: her head was to go to China less than ninety 1408 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 1: days later and defend her belt against Jong Way Lee 1409 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,720 Speaker 1: on UFC fightpass dot Com, and her championship reign ended 1410 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:27,200 Speaker 1: up being about three months now. Blao Muhammad forever changed 1411 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,840 Speaker 1: his life. He's now the undisputed UFC waltzweight Champion. He 1412 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,200 Speaker 1: will here toofore after his reign be introduced as the 1413 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 1: former UFC Walterweight Champion. And it's in a division that 1414 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,200 Speaker 1: makes it really hard to be that guy. But in 1415 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,680 Speaker 1: a perfect world, you'd be that guy in November and 1416 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,280 Speaker 1: December two. But Blao wants to defend. He wants to 1417 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 1: be an active champion. He wants to fight the best 1418 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,360 Speaker 1: guys and to that end, I think he wants to 1419 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,800 Speaker 1: fight Shavcot Rockmanov, but I would dissuade him from doing so. 1420 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 1: On October twenty something, because I just think it's too 1421 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 1: soon to have an optimal training camp for an opponent 1422 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,240 Speaker 1: like that, and for a fight that really means as 1423 01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 1: much as it does a first championship title defense. Your 1424 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 1: thoughts on that well, And he. 1425 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 5: Clearly thrives when he has plenty of time to prepare 1426 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,720 Speaker 5: for his opponents, and you know him his team. Those 1427 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,920 Speaker 5: are the kind of guys that look for the right 1428 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,640 Speaker 5: game plan. They do a lot of tape study, clearly, 1429 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,360 Speaker 5: they figure it out, they train hard, and then they fight, 1430 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 5: and that, in my opinion, would be way too quick 1431 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:30,000 Speaker 5: of a turnaround. 1432 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 1: For sure. I would take take his time, you know, 1433 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:34,960 Speaker 1: recover from this one. 1434 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 5: I'm sure he had a long, grueling camp and he's 1435 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 5: probably going to be back and back in training camp shortly. 1436 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,520 Speaker 5: But you know, this is one of those you kind 1437 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 5: of have to chill a little bit and then and 1438 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,120 Speaker 5: then make the right preparation for the next one. 1439 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:52,880 Speaker 1: And that means getting some time. Islama Kashev, in a 1440 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 1: lot of people's minds, was going to be the guy 1441 01:07:55,880 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 1: who was going to defend his belt come October. Dabi 1442 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,280 Speaker 1: now says maybe he isn't going to be able to 1443 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 1: fight in twenty twenty four. There's a hand injury, perhaps 1444 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,240 Speaker 1: a partial ligament tears I'm reading here, Thank you, Cody. 1445 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens. As far as that is concerned, 1446 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:16,599 Speaker 1: you need title fights obviously, Abu Dhabi is thirteen weeks away, 1447 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,760 Speaker 1: and Muhammad's not going to be able to spar with 1448 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,759 Speaker 1: that nose for a couple weeks, if not a month, 1449 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 1: I would think, just given how severe that cut looked. Again, 1450 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,240 Speaker 1: we are efforting Blah Muhammad from Grease in the next 1451 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,479 Speaker 1: hour here live on the Anakin Flooring Podcast. We'll have 1452 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,599 Speaker 1: picks coming up of course on on Umarni, Mago Metav 1453 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,559 Speaker 1: and Corey Sandhagen as well. And if you do want 1454 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 1: to you can you go back and watch our live 1455 01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,880 Speaker 1: interview with Corey Sandhagen when we are off the air. 1456 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 1: But as far as the matchup is concerned, can Flow 1457 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:48,479 Speaker 1: Shavkott Rokmanov, Blao Muhammad, can you give us a thirty 1458 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:53,080 Speaker 1: second early forecast as to how you see that fight 1459 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:53,599 Speaker 1: plan out? 1460 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,799 Speaker 5: Well, I think Shafcott's going to be the more powerful striker, 1461 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 5: no question about that. But again and based on Ballall 1462 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:05,360 Speaker 5: and his ability to break guys down. Both before the 1463 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:09,280 Speaker 5: fight and during the fight, I've been leaning towards ballall Man, 1464 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 5: and again it looked like Shapcott will be the favorite. 1465 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,360 Speaker 5: And you gotta love the value on ballall Man. All 1466 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 5: this guy does is show up and compete best when 1467 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 5: the lights are brightest, and you know, based on his 1468 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 5: takedown game, based on his developing striking, his conditioning, I 1469 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:28,400 Speaker 5: think that'd be a phenomenal fight. 1470 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,760 Speaker 1: It's interesting when you talk about Shavka Rokmanov's relationship with 1471 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,760 Speaker 1: this fan base, and he's just an awesome guy. You know, 1472 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 1: he gave me chocolates from Kazakhstan. And again, I've met 1473 01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 1: so many elite human beings, probably more elite human beings 1474 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,519 Speaker 1: than elite fighters actually, if you can believe that, over 1475 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,240 Speaker 1: the years. But Rokmanov is all the rage with this 1476 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 1: fan base, and certainly a lot of that is rooted 1477 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:55,920 Speaker 1: in this sort of understated charisma, the click width that 1478 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,439 Speaker 1: you know is there even though he can't speak English, 1479 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,439 Speaker 1: and then just the finishing ability and the aesthetic when 1480 01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,640 Speaker 1: he fights, all the knockouts and all the submissions. And 1481 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 1: when I do forecast or look ahead to a fight 1482 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 1: between Shopcot, Rock Bodom and blah Muhammed. The buzzword for 1483 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 1: me is submission and Shavcott rock modo knops relative potential 1484 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 1: ability to find one in a lot of grappling and 1485 01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 1: wrestling situations, and that says nothing of the length and 1486 01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,000 Speaker 1: maybe some of the size advantages on the feet. I 1487 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,519 Speaker 1: think blah Muhammed, it stands to reason, would have the 1488 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:29,519 Speaker 1: physical strength advantage. But again, Leon Edwards seemed maybe just 1489 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,759 Speaker 1: as strong as Balal at times, and when Leon had blow, 1490 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,720 Speaker 1: he wasn't able to escape. So there's a lot to 1491 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,400 Speaker 1: unpack when it comes to this fight. But I think 1492 01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 1: Blaal's entertaining more so than the fan base would believe. 1493 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 1: But he doesn't put guys away and Shafcott does essentially 1494 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,400 Speaker 1: every fight, And is that not maybe the big difference? Yeah, 1495 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean absolutely. 1496 01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:51,360 Speaker 5: If Shafcott has his opportunity to hurt anybody in that division, 1497 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,639 Speaker 5: then he's most likely going to take them out. 1498 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,519 Speaker 1: He is massive for the division. 1499 01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,680 Speaker 5: He will certainly have a size and strength advantage from 1500 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,479 Speaker 5: what I can tell, well, certainly a size advantage anyway 1501 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:07,600 Speaker 5: against Bulall, and for that reason, you know, if he 1502 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,599 Speaker 5: lands the right shot at the right time, he can 1503 01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,200 Speaker 5: hurt Bulall. No question about it. But Blall has a 1504 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:17,120 Speaker 5: knack for being able to non only survive. He's experienced 1505 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,120 Speaker 5: adversity in the cage before, but he knows how to 1506 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,400 Speaker 5: implement the right game plan. He knows how to stay safe, 1507 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 5: and I think that's going to be a really interesting fight. 1508 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,080 Speaker 1: All right. I have a few more questions as far 1509 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,280 Speaker 1: as UFC three zero four is concern. We're about twenty 1510 01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,600 Speaker 1: two minutes away from pivoting to UFC Fight Night, and 1511 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,080 Speaker 1: I promise we're going to get to a lot of 1512 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 1: these other winners. I did make an analogy between the 1513 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,639 Speaker 1: Boston Celtics and Below Muhammad on the airwaves because there's 1514 01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,240 Speaker 1: really only one way to sort of shut up naysayers. 1515 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 1: And when I say naysayers, I think a lot of 1516 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,160 Speaker 1: it has to do with just the ability of Jason 1517 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 1: Tatum to win an NBA championship as the lead horse, 1518 01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 1: or below Muhammed mixed Martial Art for Mixed Martial Art 1519 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:02,640 Speaker 1: Kenny to beat Leon Edwar when guys like Israel Lot 1520 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,760 Speaker 1: of Sonia and Alexander Volkanovski and so many of his 1521 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 1: peers just don't fucking see it. Even though maybe kabibnrmago 1522 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,400 Speaker 1: Metov in an understated way, does the only way to 1523 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,280 Speaker 1: sort of shut up these people is to win a 1524 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,800 Speaker 1: world championship, And this was going to be below Muhammad's 1525 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:20,040 Speaker 1: only opportunity to do that, And I just think it 1526 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,439 Speaker 1: was a tremendously clutch, even though people don't like that 1527 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 1: word clutch, prime time performance on the road in hostile territory, 1528 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,160 Speaker 1: trying to come up large for his Palestinians and his 1529 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,439 Speaker 1: Palestinian Americans. There were a lot of Palestine flags waving 1530 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,800 Speaker 1: in the arena, a lot of Muslims in Manchester, and 1531 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,439 Speaker 1: he was able to compartmentalize all of that. He weighed 1532 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,400 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty nine pounds, looked like a fucking' 1533 01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:46,840 Speaker 1: ox and he's the world champion. It was a massive win. 1534 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, sometimes it's all about timing, 1535 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:51,879 Speaker 1: and I think. 1536 01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:55,080 Speaker 5: That based on all the opponents that he had prior 1537 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:59,000 Speaker 5: to this fight, based on even what looked like a curse, 1538 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:00,000 Speaker 5: ended up. 1539 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 1: Becoming a blessing. 1540 01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 5: And having all this time off because if you give 1541 01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,639 Speaker 5: billal a lot of time to prepare for you man 1542 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 5: watch out. 1543 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:08,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1544 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,360 Speaker 5: So yeah, it was just amazing. One of the best 1545 01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 5: performances that I've seen and it didn't matter. Him able 1546 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,439 Speaker 5: to block out all the naysayers and believe in himself 1547 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,799 Speaker 5: and execute is just nothing short of amazing. 1548 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,280 Speaker 1: And even though Ballah Muhammad maybe beat Gilberturinho Burns on 1549 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,280 Speaker 1: one wheel on three weeks notice over five rounds, I 1550 01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,880 Speaker 1: would not advise him to fight Shofcott rockeman Off thirteen 1551 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,599 Speaker 1: weeks from right now, Ken Flow. As far as Leon 1552 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,440 Speaker 1: Rocky Edwards is concerned, I will be listening to Shabamta 1553 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,840 Speaker 1: pot on replay all week. That is his walkout song. 1554 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 1: It's the most electric walkout song in the sport. He 1555 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,160 Speaker 1: has the UK really eating out of his palm and 1556 01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't think that he could sort 1557 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 1: of be this big in England because he is so 1558 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,160 Speaker 1: soft spoken in a lot of respects and not looking 1559 01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,200 Speaker 1: nor seeking attention. But where does Leon Edwards go from here? 1560 01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,320 Speaker 1: Dana White was asked about a potential main event in Dublin, 1561 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,599 Speaker 1: Ireland again see in Mashadow Gary. Even though there's no venue, 1562 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,280 Speaker 1: Dana said, right now, he didn't hate that idea. What 1563 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,320 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Leon Edwards moving forward? Knowing that promotionally, 1564 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,120 Speaker 1: Dana doesn't seem to be of an appetitive nature for 1565 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:13,240 Speaker 1: an immediate rematch. 1566 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,400 Speaker 5: I think that would be a great fight. Ian Gary 1567 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 5: versus Leon Edwards in Dublin, I think would be massive, 1568 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,559 Speaker 5: a great way to put Ian Gary on the map 1569 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:27,280 Speaker 5: that much more. And yeah, I mean based on their 1570 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,680 Speaker 5: history as well, they've trained together. I know they've there 1571 01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,879 Speaker 5: have been some words back and forth or whatever. 1572 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:31,880 Speaker 6: And. 1573 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,760 Speaker 1: That'd be an awesome fight between two excellent strikers. 1574 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 5: And I'm sure Leon wants to erase that loss or 1575 01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 5: that performance against Blow as quickly as possible. 1576 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,439 Speaker 1: And even though Bilaal said that Leon wasn't this long 1577 01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 1: reigning champion, I do think there is kind of some 1578 01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,559 Speaker 1: foundation for a trilogy Kenny real quick. As far as 1579 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,800 Speaker 1: the scoring is concerned, I know we didn't necessarily touch 1580 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,719 Speaker 1: on this. Ben Cartilage I think is a really fine judge. 1581 01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,720 Speaker 1: He gave Leon Edwards round three obviously, as did one 1582 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,120 Speaker 1: hundred percent of the fan base, and then also gave 1583 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,280 Speaker 1: him round five and DC and I argued a little 1584 01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,280 Speaker 1: bit around about round five because yes, I think in 1585 01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,160 Speaker 1: a lot of respects it's an effective grappling round because 1586 01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:15,240 Speaker 1: so much of it took place in that world. But 1587 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:20,360 Speaker 1: based upon my interpretation of the criteria in twenty twenty four, 1588 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 1: that singular elbow and maybe the second and third elbow 1589 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,680 Speaker 1: that might have made that cut even worse, and the 1590 01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,439 Speaker 1: nature of that, I think is enough to give Leon 1591 01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,320 Speaker 1: round five, as Ben Cartilage did. I think in the moment, 1592 01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,160 Speaker 1: I felt a forty nine forty six to four to 1593 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,080 Speaker 1: one for Muhammad, But based upon my interpretation of the 1594 01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:41,960 Speaker 1: criteria can flow here in twenty twenty four, I have 1595 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 1: no issue with forty eight forty seven and given Leon 1596 01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,599 Speaker 1: Edwards round five. Well, I remember as. 1597 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,320 Speaker 5: That was watching the fight, I said, I wouldn't be 1598 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,639 Speaker 5: surprised if they try to do that, just again, based 1599 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,439 Speaker 5: on the damaging strikes from Leon Edwards. Even round one 1600 01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:01,800 Speaker 5: was relatively close at times, but yeah, I think round 1601 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:03,800 Speaker 5: five was one of the ones that really stood out, 1602 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,759 Speaker 5: just based on Leon really landing some big strikes, cutting 1603 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,000 Speaker 5: him open all that stuff. 1604 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,760 Speaker 1: So I don't have a major problem. 1605 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:11,000 Speaker 3: With that yet. 1606 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:13,920 Speaker 1: I really would love to hear what Leon Edwards has 1607 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,519 Speaker 1: to say on or off the record about everything that 1608 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,439 Speaker 1: his fight week entailed. But I thought he handled everything 1609 01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,559 Speaker 1: masterfully as did blow Muhammed, except for maybe one forgettable 1610 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,599 Speaker 1: utterance from Balala. And let me get into that if 1611 01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,040 Speaker 1: I could, Kenny, and I don't want to labor this 1612 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,639 Speaker 1: because I want to give guys like Gregory Rodriguez their credit. 1613 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,639 Speaker 1: But we launched a podcast on the Anticonflorming podcast channel 1614 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,479 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty with the unranked below Muhammed and my 1615 01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,360 Speaker 1: twin brother Jason Annik remember the show, and I think 1616 01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 1: Balal had eighteen thousand Instagram followers. He now has three 1617 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,680 Speaker 1: quarters of a million, so yes, and a lot of 1618 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,680 Speaker 1: respects below. Muhammed is one of my best friends, and 1619 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,120 Speaker 1: he is family and maybe if I got married a 1620 01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,120 Speaker 1: second time, he would be a groomsman, right, But once 1621 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,519 Speaker 1: the fight starts, that is the furthest thing from my mind. 1622 01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,400 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of connective tissue between me and 1623 01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 1: Leon Edwards and his manager Tim simp said and everything else. 1624 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:05,800 Speaker 1: So I'm really easily able to compartmentalize all of that. 1625 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,320 Speaker 1: But we really are happy as a channel and as 1626 01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,600 Speaker 1: an Anakin Florian podcast team to see this guy that 1627 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,519 Speaker 1: we felt, you know, we could build a show around, 1628 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, become the world champion. But I got a 1629 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,240 Speaker 1: lot of good friends on this roster, and Ballal is 1630 01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:24,439 Speaker 1: but one of those. All right, let us get into 1631 01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,960 Speaker 1: some of the other performers, Tom Aspinall over Curtis Blades, 1632 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,280 Speaker 1: I would imagine you guys exhausted that. But as far 1633 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,439 Speaker 1: as Tom Aspinall's next fight, Kenny, even though the fan 1634 01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,120 Speaker 1: base is dying to see him fight John Jones, that's 1635 01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,720 Speaker 1: not going to be anytime soon. Do you think that 1636 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,400 Speaker 1: before all is said and done, we see John Jones 1637 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 1: against Tom Aspinall. I'm just not of an optimistic mindset 1638 01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to us ever seeing that fight. 1639 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1640 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,519 Speaker 5: I was talking with Ray of bel Is, and I 1641 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,719 Speaker 5: think that his best shot would be if Stevee wasn't 1642 01:17:54,760 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 5: able to you know, finish trading camp or you know, 1643 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,800 Speaker 5: get injured at some point, maybe he's able to able 1644 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,639 Speaker 5: to slip in there. But you know, from what I've seen, 1645 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,479 Speaker 5: you know, John Jones is at the end of his 1646 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:13,880 Speaker 5: career and Aspinall is in his prime. And it's clear 1647 01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,000 Speaker 5: to me that John Jones really cares about his legacy, 1648 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:21,040 Speaker 5: and I think that he understands that Aspinall is a 1649 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:26,000 Speaker 5: big threat to that legacy, and I just don't see 1650 01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,120 Speaker 5: that happening. Even if he's able to go through with 1651 01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,880 Speaker 5: the fight against Deep Bay look good, I think he'd 1652 01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:32,200 Speaker 5: probably say goodbye to the sport. 1653 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,760 Speaker 1: And I don't know that the great George Saint Pierre 1654 01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,240 Speaker 1: would have taken a similar fight at this point in time. 1655 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,200 Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of strategy involved in 1656 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,760 Speaker 1: GSP's decision to come back when Michael Bisman was the 1657 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,000 Speaker 1: middleweight champion and he did not go on to defend 1658 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,439 Speaker 1: that one hundred and eighty five pound title. But yeah, 1659 01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,879 Speaker 1: skill for skilled. Tom Aspinall looks like the best heavyweight 1660 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,040 Speaker 1: in the world, and he's the one who is in 1661 01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,439 Speaker 1: this active competition cycle. He's the one who had a 1662 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,360 Speaker 1: devastating knee injury torn apark, came back after a year 1663 01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,920 Speaker 1: off and now has gotten right back on the whole. 1664 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,760 Speaker 1: So I think there's a zero percent chance Steepe would 1665 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,840 Speaker 1: pull out of that fight. At forty two years of age, right, 1666 01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,519 Speaker 1: doesn't have to get through the open workout. All he 1667 01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:08,640 Speaker 1: has to do is get to the scale in the 1668 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,200 Speaker 1: octagon and get that seven figure payday. But yeah, Tommy 1669 01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,000 Speaker 1: Aspinall will probably weigh in as the backup, and Aspinall's 1670 01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:15,639 Speaker 1: next fight is going to be for the undisputed title. 1671 01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,879 Speaker 1: But as far as I'm concerned, we've got two heavyweight champions, 1672 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:22,479 Speaker 1: and Tom aspinall is one of them. All right, Gregory 1673 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,760 Speaker 1: Rodriguez over Christian Leroy Duncan by unanimous decision, thirty to 1674 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,840 Speaker 1: twenty sevens across the board. We talked a little bit 1675 01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 1: about how good Gregory Rodriguez could be, Kenny, and we're 1676 01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,400 Speaker 1: going to find out now. Right now, he's going to 1677 01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,719 Speaker 1: get that big fight against one of these big names. 1678 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,280 Speaker 1: But he is a Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt, a 1679 01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,760 Speaker 1: BJJ world champion. I think maybe as a purple belt. 1680 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:44,080 Speaker 1: He has over two hundred wrestling match matches in his life. 1681 01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:48,000 Speaker 1: He's got a chin like hell fucking bleeds a lot right, 1682 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,920 Speaker 1: great striker strengthen condition and commitment at the Institute of 1683 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,439 Speaker 1: Human Performance where I go doesn't even begin to describe it. 1684 01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,880 Speaker 1: So what do you have for us on Gregory Rodriguez 1685 01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 1: sort of you know, getting maybe the biggest win of 1686 01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,240 Speaker 1: his career against the highly towned Christian Leroy Duncan. 1687 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,840 Speaker 5: This was an awesome performance from Rodriguez who went out there, 1688 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:11,920 Speaker 5: he took the took the fight uh to CLD, was 1689 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 5: landing a lot of great boxing strikes in tight I 1690 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,479 Speaker 5: think that's where he had his best shot. He was 1691 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:23,479 Speaker 5: winning the grappling exchanges, and I don't know, like Duncan 1692 01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:28,240 Speaker 5: just looked fat flat to me, he looked a little flat. Rodriguez, 1693 01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:32,200 Speaker 5: who was the bigger guy, was utilizing that that advantage. 1694 01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,640 Speaker 5: In my opinion, he seemed like he was landing the 1695 01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,920 Speaker 5: harder strikes and he kept his foot on the gas. 1696 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,880 Speaker 5: He never allowed Duncan to get back into that fight, 1697 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,720 Speaker 5: and this was one of the best performances that I've 1698 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:48,559 Speaker 5: seen from him. Absolutely, because Duncan is a tremendous athlete. 1699 01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,280 Speaker 5: He does a he does a lot of things that 1700 01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:54,360 Speaker 5: many just simply cannot do from a mobility standpoint, from 1701 01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:58,040 Speaker 5: an athletic standpoint, But it didn't matter because Rodriguez pressed, 1702 01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,560 Speaker 5: pressed the action, land its big shots in tight and 1703 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,200 Speaker 5: just really fought a perfect game plan. 1704 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,080 Speaker 1: So a lot of the guys in the middleway top 1705 01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,160 Speaker 1: fifteen are matched up, But I excuse me, don't know 1706 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,519 Speaker 1: which of these fights maybe have been announced, so I'm 1707 01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:14,680 Speaker 1: not going to necessarily get into too many of them. 1708 01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:17,280 Speaker 1: Thank you Cody for populating the ones that have been 1709 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:21,640 Speaker 1: announced publicly. Michelle Padeda versus Anthony Fluffy Hernandez has been 1710 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,680 Speaker 1: moved to October nineteenth. That looks like Nosordini, Mavov and 1711 01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,960 Speaker 1: Brendan Allen are going to fight Chris Curtis, number fifteen. 1712 01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:28,040 Speaker 3: In the world. 1713 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,280 Speaker 1: I think a fight between him and Gregory Rodriguez makes 1714 01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,719 Speaker 1: some sense as I look at some of the other names. 1715 01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,479 Speaker 1: Roman Dealidse, I think, given his win over Anthony Lionheart 1716 01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,400 Speaker 1: Smith is not going to be of a competitive nature 1717 01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,599 Speaker 1: for that fight. But we congratulate Gregory Rodriguez. And I've 1718 01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,439 Speaker 1: watched him do some of his training on the Versa 1719 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:47,400 Speaker 1: climber Kenny and everything else at IHP, and yeah, he's committed, 1720 01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,360 Speaker 1: so we'll see just how far he can take it. 1721 01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,960 Speaker 1: I would not necessarily want to be betting against RoboCop 1722 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:57,519 Speaker 1: in the distant future. All Right, Arnold Almighty Allen over 1723 01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Gigachikadz by unanimous decision. Can the featherweight contender. Arnold Allen 1724 01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,120 Speaker 1: just you know, continues to beat really every guy that 1725 01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:08,000 Speaker 1: on paper he's supposed to beat. Gigachi Kanse got off 1726 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,400 Speaker 1: to a good start. Thought a great job by Farasa 1727 01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,680 Speaker 1: Hobby on the corner with Arnold Allen there after round one, 1728 01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,439 Speaker 1: and just a really fun fighter to watch, a really 1729 01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,839 Speaker 1: well rounded guy, and he chose to strike with Gigachi 1730 01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,960 Speaker 1: kanse and won the fight. So I tipped my cap. Yeah, 1731 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:21,679 Speaker 1: it was a good fight. 1732 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:25,960 Speaker 5: I'm not sure it was exactly the game plan that 1733 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,719 Speaker 5: I thought he was going to follow, but the basis 1734 01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,200 Speaker 5: of his game plan was the correct one. And what 1735 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:36,120 Speaker 5: I mean by that is getting in Chikase's face, backing 1736 01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:40,760 Speaker 5: him up, pressuring him. As good as Giga is, he's 1737 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,720 Speaker 5: not as good as when he's backing up. He likes 1738 01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,479 Speaker 5: to leave the dance. He likes to move forward where 1739 01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,960 Speaker 5: he can land those kicks comfortably, and a guy who 1740 01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 5: is a strong kicker just isn't going to be as 1741 01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,519 Speaker 5: good if he's backing up as much as he was, 1742 01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,960 Speaker 5: And I think that really was the difference. Alan was 1743 01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,800 Speaker 5: was really tough. I thought he did a good job 1744 01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:03,000 Speaker 5: of building on that blueprint of Cater. 1745 01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:03,720 Speaker 1: I thought he was. 1746 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:07,000 Speaker 5: Gonna initiate more takedowns and try to put a Giga 1747 01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,240 Speaker 5: on his back where I thought he would have an 1748 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,240 Speaker 5: easier time with him, but it didn't matter. I thought 1749 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,280 Speaker 5: it was a great fight as well. Both guys I thought, 1750 01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:17,280 Speaker 5: you know, had some great moments in that fight. 1751 01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,599 Speaker 1: Buy or Sell Arnold Allen fights for the undisputed Feedway 1752 01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,840 Speaker 1: Championship before his career is said and done. I know 1753 01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,240 Speaker 1: it's hard. Yeah, I stall for you. Can I stall 1754 01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,680 Speaker 1: for you for a second? Sure? All right? So he 1755 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,439 Speaker 1: had moments against Max Holloway, but I think that's a 1756 01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,080 Speaker 1: particularly challenging matchup for him and a lot of other guys. 1757 01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:38,559 Speaker 1: But I would think you would think that on any 1758 01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:45,720 Speaker 1: given Saturday night he's competitive with Lilotsopodia and Alexander Volkanovsky. No, yeah, 1759 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,400 Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I don't think he wins those fights. 1760 01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,760 Speaker 1: Is he competitive? Yeah? I think so. 1761 01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's possible, you know, I think it's 1762 01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,160 Speaker 5: possible for him to fight for the belt in the future. 1763 01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,479 Speaker 5: I think there's there's certain guys in there. I thought 1764 01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,720 Speaker 5: the Employer fight was actually pretty. 1765 01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:06,519 Speaker 1: Close, ye and yeah not to look brutal matchup. Yeah. Yeah. 1766 01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,519 Speaker 5: And I think that with the right training, with the 1767 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,479 Speaker 5: right advancement in his development, he could definitely fight for 1768 01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 5: the title. 1769 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,519 Speaker 1: So one thing that really works against Arnold Allen and 1770 01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,400 Speaker 1: some of these British athletes is the magnitude of these 1771 01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,840 Speaker 1: pay per views that happened in England. And one thing 1772 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:23,920 Speaker 1: that Arnold said to us in our Fighter meeting was 1773 01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:27,200 Speaker 1: that when mavsar Ievloyev was presented as an opponent, he 1774 01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 1: was given the choice of I think either ten days, 1775 01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:33,479 Speaker 1: Kenny or sixteen weeks. Right, and certainly a guy like 1776 01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,720 Speaker 1: mavsar Ievloyev, that's a specialized training camp. He said that 1777 01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:40,080 Speaker 1: training camp was absolute. Hell, you need the sixteen weeks, 1778 01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,599 Speaker 1: and he nearly beat a really difficult guy to beat 1779 01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,879 Speaker 1: in one of the tougher matchups for him in the division. 1780 01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:50,320 Speaker 1: Right now, when you think about just getting back to 1781 01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:54,000 Speaker 1: that peak with all of the relative noise there, I 1782 01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,720 Speaker 1: don't know what he has to do skill wise to 1783 01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,479 Speaker 1: maybe get over the hump, but I think he's got 1784 01:24:58,520 --> 01:24:59,800 Speaker 1: the right head coach. I think he has the right 1785 01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,400 Speaker 1: man mentality told us in the Fighter meeting, you know 1786 01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,519 Speaker 1: that he had no intentions to wrestle, but he lied 1787 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,600 Speaker 1: to our faces because he said to Daniel Cormier that 1788 01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:12,360 Speaker 1: he was strategically supposed to wrestle Gika Chi kase In coaches. 1789 01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,960 Speaker 1: So congratulations to a good egg, a little bit misunderstood guy, 1790 01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,920 Speaker 1: but a really good guy. Arnold Almighty Allan, all right, 1791 01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,600 Speaker 1: Ken Flow anything else that you wanted to touch on 1792 01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:25,240 Speaker 1: as far as UFC three oh four was concerned, Mohammed 1793 01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,000 Speaker 1: Mokaia is an interesting situation. He beats Medel Kop. I 1794 01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,160 Speaker 1: give Manel Cop a lot of credit for fighting through 1795 01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:33,680 Speaker 1: that toe injury. Showed a lot of toughness there, and 1796 01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:37,759 Speaker 1: I also give both guys credit for burying the hatchet 1797 01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,360 Speaker 1: after the fact. I know this fight left a whole 1798 01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:44,600 Speaker 1: lot to be desired, especially as it happened amidst a 1799 01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,760 Speaker 1: string of seven straight decisions at UFC three oh four. 1800 01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,280 Speaker 1: But Kenny, most of the discourse after the fact is 1801 01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,280 Speaker 1: on Mohammed Makayev no longer being a UFC fighter, and 1802 01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,680 Speaker 1: not so much on this win that remained him an 1803 01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:01,400 Speaker 1: undefeated fighter. Yeah, I think that you know what really 1804 01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:05,280 Speaker 1: hurt him is the fact that you know he did 1805 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,559 Speaker 1: what he did to Cop. You know that that's kind 1806 01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:11,280 Speaker 1: of a nasty thing to do to uh, you know, 1807 01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:14,120 Speaker 1: ask for a picture and then sucker budget your opponent. 1808 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,920 Speaker 1: That is not the sign of a professional. 1809 01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:21,960 Speaker 5: And maybe, just maybe the UFC would have looked past past, 1810 01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:27,040 Speaker 5: excuse me, past that. But if you are also not 1811 01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,960 Speaker 5: the most exciting fighter in the roster, and if you 1812 01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:34,479 Speaker 5: are also in a division for whatever reason, that maybe 1813 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,080 Speaker 5: people don't care about as much. I love the vision, 1814 01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,400 Speaker 5: but it's not kind of a paper like a million 1815 01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,519 Speaker 5: dollar pay per view division, right or a million buy 1816 01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:49,680 Speaker 5: pay per view division. That that compounded just did not 1817 01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:54,080 Speaker 5: look well for him. And yeah, he's not going to 1818 01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:55,400 Speaker 5: be a UFC fighter anymore. 1819 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:55,639 Speaker 1: Man. 1820 01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,160 Speaker 5: I just it was just a really stupid decision all 1821 01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,880 Speaker 5: the way around. Man just really up and then he 1822 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,200 Speaker 5: goes and ad midst that he did that, Like again, 1823 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:08,960 Speaker 5: maybe that was a good thing, but you know, that 1824 01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:15,000 Speaker 5: just was terrible. I just asked Siri who the PFL 1825 01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,679 Speaker 5: flywaiter bantamweight champion is, Kenny. 1826 01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,280 Speaker 1: I know you no longer work for the promotion. They don't, Yeah, 1827 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,000 Speaker 1: so oh how about that from Day to Light? So, 1828 01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:28,640 Speaker 1: Kai Asakura is a Japanese fighter formerly with Rise, and 1829 01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,760 Speaker 1: it's my understanding that the UFC has signed him. I 1830 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,200 Speaker 1: don't know if he was a champion before. Perhaps Cody 1831 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:35,880 Speaker 1: could chase that, but I do know that he fought 1832 01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:40,599 Speaker 1: Manel Cop twice, beat him once, and he could come 1833 01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,599 Speaker 1: into the UFC and fight a top contender right out 1834 01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,559 Speaker 1: of the shoot. I think I read or heard something 1835 01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,400 Speaker 1: suggesting he could even fight ales Andre Pantosia in his 1836 01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,200 Speaker 1: UFC debut. I'm not sure they'd go that far. Even 1837 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:55,599 Speaker 1: if the motivation was to have a Japanese UFC champion, 1838 01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,639 Speaker 1: I think that would be a fucking lot, even though 1839 01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:01,280 Speaker 1: I say that having not ingested any recent film of Kayasakura. 1840 01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,559 Speaker 1: But there isn't an obvious number one flyweight contender. They're 1841 01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:08,439 Speaker 1: having Kaikta Frants fight against Steve er seg I felt 1842 01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 1: like Steve Ver saying, you know, really deserved the immediate rematch. 1843 01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,280 Speaker 1: But I understand why they didn't go in that direction. 1844 01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,360 Speaker 1: But Mohammed and Mokaia have no longer a member of 1845 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,040 Speaker 1: the USC's flyweight division, and yeah, I think it'll be 1846 01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:23,880 Speaker 1: around with eternity Kenny. I don't think they're going to 1847 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:25,360 Speaker 1: get rid of the men's one hundred and twenty five 1848 01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:30,400 Speaker 1: pound division. But I do understand that it doesn't draw like, 1849 01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, some of these other divisions, because I think 1850 01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people maybe just don't like or understand 1851 01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,720 Speaker 1: or appreciate just how good the fly guys are. All Right, 1852 01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:41,160 Speaker 1: Nathaniel would over Daniel Paneda in the in the feature prelim. Again, 1853 01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:43,320 Speaker 1: next level toughness from Paneda would do him what he 1854 01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,439 Speaker 1: had to do, and I think in some part for 1855 01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:49,439 Speaker 1: Wood just managing risk against a really tough Paneda. At times, 1856 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,080 Speaker 1: Kenny he was a near five to one favorite. He 1857 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,519 Speaker 1: was coming off his first featherweight loss against Mohammed Naimov, 1858 01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,760 Speaker 1: and I just felt like at times maybe he was 1859 01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,840 Speaker 1: risk averse. But Nathaniel Wood's clean, added some muscle mass, 1860 01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:02,200 Speaker 1: hugely motivated by the birth of his daughter. And you 1861 01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:04,120 Speaker 1: know another guy, dude in this one hundred and forty 1862 01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,240 Speaker 1: five pound of vision that's just full of fucking beasts 1863 01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:07,559 Speaker 1: one through like thirty five. 1864 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,880 Speaker 5: Nathaniel Woods a really good fighter man and Pineda can 1865 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,400 Speaker 5: be very dangerous, and the fact that you know, he 1866 01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,000 Speaker 5: got a win like that, I think bodes well for him. 1867 01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,800 Speaker 5: I think he's a guy that can, you know, now, 1868 01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,920 Speaker 5: start to chase some of the guys that are. 1869 01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:25,240 Speaker 1: Are ranked now. And he's he's really good man on 1870 01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:25,679 Speaker 1: the feet. 1871 01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:29,040 Speaker 5: I think he's really clean, he's got good wrestling, he's 1872 01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,040 Speaker 5: got good he's got a good ground game. He knows 1873 01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,040 Speaker 5: how to be aggressive what he needs to be, he 1874 01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,840 Speaker 5: knows how to win rounds, and he's gaining a lot 1875 01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:38,559 Speaker 5: of critical experience right now. 1876 01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,400 Speaker 1: Mick Parkin the heavyweight who is Tom Aspinall's teammate. He 1877 01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:47,000 Speaker 1: is undefeated, and I think he was overwhelmed in the 1878 01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,280 Speaker 1: best of ways by all the support that he had there. 1879 01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm asking you about this fight in part because you 1880 01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,679 Speaker 1: spent I think three hundred dollars on a straight wager 1881 01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,160 Speaker 1: on the guy. So I'd imagine you watched the fight, Kenny, 1882 01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:57,880 Speaker 1: or did you not even watch it? Did you just know? 1883 01:29:58,320 --> 01:29:59,920 Speaker 1: Did you just know you were cashing the fucking taken? 1884 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,040 Speaker 1: Is that the deal? Yeah? No, I did not see it. 1885 01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:07,120 Speaker 1: Actually have Let me move on. Congratulations to make by 1886 01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,040 Speaker 1: the way, off to an outstanding start. He'll probably be 1887 01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:15,040 Speaker 1: fighting somebody in the heavyweight top fifteen. So Jake Hadley 1888 01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,719 Speaker 1: stepped up on short notice missed weight. He fought Keelan Lockran. 1889 01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,599 Speaker 1: I really like Keelan Lockran, but I think these fifteen 1890 01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:23,559 Speaker 1: minutes are going to give him a lot to learn from. 1891 01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:25,800 Speaker 1: I really like Jake Hadley now moving up to one 1892 01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:27,639 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five pounds. I hope that's the career 1893 01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,599 Speaker 1: decision for him. But he had a teammate on the card, 1894 01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,679 Speaker 1: Alice ardell Jan who fought earlier and what a great 1895 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:37,080 Speaker 1: career decision in retrospect or in hindsight. For Jake Hadley, 1896 01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,800 Speaker 1: you step up in short notice fight a guy you're 1897 01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,559 Speaker 1: acutely familiar with, who you've seen on the regional scene 1898 01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:47,719 Speaker 1: in Kaylin lockran and outstrike him. Just a discipline effort 1899 01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:49,639 Speaker 1: from Jake. I know he missed wait, but he did 1900 01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:51,439 Speaker 1: take the fight on short notice. I hope he moves 1901 01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:53,720 Speaker 1: up to thirty five and just look much better in 1902 01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:55,880 Speaker 1: frame there. Did he happen to catch brun To Brazil 1903 01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:58,760 Speaker 1: against meet Paul McCann or meet Paul Mali mccankin flop? 1904 01:30:58,920 --> 01:30:59,200 Speaker 3: I did? 1905 01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:03,439 Speaker 1: I did so body shots man, I mean McCann. All 1906 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,479 Speaker 1: hail Molly McCann for fighting through those. But Bruna Brazil. 1907 01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:10,000 Speaker 1: It just goes to show you, right what a relatively 1908 01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,280 Speaker 1: grain developing fighter can do from one fight to another. 1909 01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:16,599 Speaker 1: She looks at a place at times against Loma Luke 1910 01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,200 Speaker 1: Boon Me and then comes here on the road as 1911 01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:21,640 Speaker 1: a massive underdog in a really difficult setting in the 1912 01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:25,120 Speaker 1: middle of the night and outclasses Molly McCann really in 1913 01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,120 Speaker 1: all phases over fifteen minutes. Yeah. 1914 01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:31,120 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and yet another data point of why it's so 1915 01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:37,920 Speaker 5: difficult to pick fights in MMA. You know her last 1916 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:42,160 Speaker 5: fight or you know her last loss. You could chalk 1917 01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:43,760 Speaker 5: it up to a lot of different things. You know, 1918 01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:45,920 Speaker 5: a lot of things can happen outside of the cage. 1919 01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:50,600 Speaker 5: And she looked phenomenal, man. I mean, Molly just did not. 1920 01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:53,639 Speaker 5: I mean she really won every aspect of the fight. 1921 01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:55,880 Speaker 5: She looked like a world beater. 1922 01:31:56,000 --> 01:32:00,240 Speaker 1: Man. She really did well. I congratulations to the other 1923 01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:03,920 Speaker 1: winners that we have not mentioned yet. Modestus pokowskis over 1924 01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:09,240 Speaker 1: Marchen Pragneo and you know, good on pokowskis the Lithuanian 1925 01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,240 Speaker 1: Englishman for taking the judges out of it and just 1926 01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:16,160 Speaker 1: responding to concussive damage yet again and finding an arm triangle. 1927 01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:18,639 Speaker 1: I thought the night really started strong before the afore 1928 01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:22,240 Speaker 1: mentioned seven straight decisions. And I have no idea how 1929 01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,360 Speaker 1: high the ceiling is on Team Cross faces Sam Patterson, 1930 01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,000 Speaker 1: but I do know that he has committed, He is 1931 01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:32,720 Speaker 1: well rounded, his grappling is excellent, and Keifer Crosby's a 1932 01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,840 Speaker 1: guy that I think Sam Patterson believes he's supposed to 1933 01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:39,000 Speaker 1: go out there in dustin around and that's what he did. 1934 01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,680 Speaker 1: So congrats to everybody at UFC three to ZH four 1935 01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:45,160 Speaker 1: and we'll have more content later in the week, potentially 1936 01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:47,800 Speaker 1: with Balao remember the name Muhammad, unless he crashes our 1937 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,120 Speaker 1: main event challenge over the next thirty minutes. But we 1938 01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,080 Speaker 1: got to spin this shit forward not to Perth, Western Australia, 1939 01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,799 Speaker 1: but to UFC Fight Night San Haagen versus Ramago Medov 1940 01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:59,760 Speaker 1: live on ABC this Saturday at three pm Eastern as 1941 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:01,519 Speaker 1: we will welcome in another member of the Anak and 1942 01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:02,599 Speaker 1: Phoran podcast team. 1943 01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:06,479 Speaker 2: Big can you get those in there a little screen? 1944 01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:13,360 Speaker 1: I mean, but what's a man? Brian's Petree. Nice to 1945 01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:14,880 Speaker 1: see you, brother, Good to see you too. 1946 01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,559 Speaker 4: Sorry about the technical difficulties we had it on edge, 1947 01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:20,559 Speaker 4: John Annick, I'm here to kind of live with them 1948 01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:21,280 Speaker 4: things up here. 1949 01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,280 Speaker 2: Let's go, Bob. I had a good week. I'm gonna 1950 01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,960 Speaker 2: have a good week again this week. All good weeks 1951 01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:26,519 Speaker 2: moving forward. 1952 01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,880 Speaker 1: No, I'm disappointed in myself. I just, uh, you know, 1953 01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,519 Speaker 1: it makes me feel weak minded that I can't get 1954 01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:34,920 Speaker 1: over it. But uh, I just really look forward at 1955 01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,160 Speaker 1: these pay per view recaps. I take them seriously, and uh, 1956 01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:40,240 Speaker 1: of course I've spent thousands upon thousands of dollars to 1957 01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:42,800 Speaker 1: have both AT and T and Expindity at my house. 1958 01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm hardwired. I have four modems in my home and 1959 01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,120 Speaker 1: Ken flows on vacation in South Carolina. Yeah, you know, 1960 01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:52,120 Speaker 1: and it's clean as a fucking whistle, you know. But yeah, 1961 01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm forty six. Maybe uh, maybe I'll grow up at 1962 01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,840 Speaker 1: some point in time. So Brian, before we get into 1963 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,560 Speaker 1: UFC fight night, saying hey versus Nirmaco Medov, it was 1964 01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:03,400 Speaker 1: a big week at the sportsbook for you at UFC 1965 01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:06,160 Speaker 1: three oh four, But I think far more importantly, uh, 1966 01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:10,880 Speaker 1: friend of the Anak and Florian podcast family member Blao 1967 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:12,800 Speaker 1: remember the name Muhammad. I know you're really happy for 1968 01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:15,599 Speaker 1: your friend Blaal after the championship went on Saturday night. 1969 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:19,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, unbelievable. I just love the performance itself. Is it 1970 01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:20,080 Speaker 4: was unbelievable. 1971 01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,519 Speaker 2: He's dancing in the warm up zone right, it's all hips. 1972 01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:28,280 Speaker 4: His confidence was so effect You see guys fighters confident 1973 01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,760 Speaker 4: all week and I've been I've been watching sport long 1974 01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:32,280 Speaker 4: enough to know where it's kind of bullshit. 1975 01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:34,040 Speaker 2: This dude is not well. He's been preaching it for 1976 01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:35,840 Speaker 2: a year since the first fight. 1977 01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:39,160 Speaker 4: I got this guy, and guess what he got the guy? 1978 01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:40,480 Speaker 4: You know, he looked phenomenal. 1979 01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:41,519 Speaker 2: His stand up. 1980 01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:44,640 Speaker 4: His pressure is Cardio, his takedowns, you know a lot 1981 01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:46,519 Speaker 4: of those. You know, Kamara Usman is a greatrestler, Kobe 1982 01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,000 Speaker 4: Coven's a great wrestler. They struggled with Leon, you know. 1983 01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:53,680 Speaker 4: And Bala Mohammad just commits and his commitment and his 1984 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:55,360 Speaker 4: finishing of the takedowns is unreal. 1985 01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:57,439 Speaker 2: But I was just blown away by his confidence as 1986 01:34:57,520 --> 01:34:59,880 Speaker 2: swagger all week and a night. 1987 01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:03,040 Speaker 4: Real nice pill for all those people out there who 1988 01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,960 Speaker 4: for some reason dislike them. Yeah, the fucking swallow that one, 1989 01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:08,960 Speaker 4: because you look phenomenal and he's a new champion. 1990 01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's beautifully put. Swagger's a word that certainly 1991 01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,559 Speaker 1: should be attached to the guy last five wins, Stephen 1992 01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:19,439 Speaker 1: Wonder Boy, Thompson, Vicente, Luke, Sean Brady, Gilbert Burns, Leon, 1993 01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:23,080 Speaker 1: Rocky Edwards. And yeah, I mean to all of the 1994 01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,800 Speaker 1: people out there suggesting that this is anything but hard 1995 01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,919 Speaker 1: work in preparation and don't want to at least acknowledge 1996 01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:30,720 Speaker 1: the new champion. A lot of his haters and his 1997 01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:34,000 Speaker 1: naysayers and his detractors want to acknowledge the new champion. 1998 01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:37,240 Speaker 1: We thank those people. But to those people who who 1999 01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:40,960 Speaker 1: really just can't get over this. Cry Yeah, cry do 2000 01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:44,840 Speaker 1: it Glossy fight night Sanagen versus Nrmago MetOp. We spoke 2001 01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,560 Speaker 1: with Corey earlier today, Bry and we'll get into the 2002 01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:50,360 Speaker 1: main event later, but it is all hands on deck. 2003 01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:52,160 Speaker 1: He has brought in a lot of different people to 2004 01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,759 Speaker 1: prepare for the monster that is Umar and or Mago 2005 01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,439 Speaker 1: metof But we will break down seven fights today and 2006 01:35:57,680 --> 01:35:59,639 Speaker 1: shout out to Ken Flow for battling through the voice. 2007 01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:01,720 Speaker 1: We will start with a prelim and then rifle to 2008 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:05,120 Speaker 1: the six fight main card live on ABC coming up Saturday. 2009 01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:07,160 Speaker 1: First fight is the feature prelim here in Abu Dhabi 2010 01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:10,479 Speaker 1: at light heavyweight briy Azamont Murza Khanov minus two to 2011 01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:12,880 Speaker 1: oh five taking on a Lonzo Metafield who was plus 2012 01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:16,400 Speaker 1: one seventy. So Murza Khanov he turned pro all the 2013 01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,880 Speaker 1: way back in twenty ten, then he didn't fight again 2014 01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:22,480 Speaker 1: until twenty fifteen, so a lot of periods of inactivity, 2015 01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:24,200 Speaker 1: a lot of injuries, a lot of withdrawals. But he 2016 01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:27,280 Speaker 1: is thirteen and zero and Ry perhaps has such favorite 2017 01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:29,519 Speaker 1: here to beat the UFC tested Menifield. Your thoughts on 2018 01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:30,880 Speaker 1: this featured prelim. 2019 01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:33,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, Mrza Khanov has been in fighting MMA forever and 2020 01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:35,200 Speaker 4: he's only got thirteen fights. He's been to the USC 2021 01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:36,679 Speaker 4: for a while and he only has a couple fights 2022 01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:39,000 Speaker 4: as well. In Activity is gonna be a problem for 2023 01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:41,760 Speaker 4: guy who labels himself a striker. He's not gonna look 2024 01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:45,439 Speaker 4: for takedowns. Then he got my guy, Zoe, big barrel 2025 01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:49,799 Speaker 4: chested zo. This dude's got coming off an embarrassing knockout 2026 01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:53,000 Speaker 4: in his eyes, guaranteed. That's why he's getting back on 2027 01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,599 Speaker 4: the horse so quickly here against carls Oldberg, where there's 2028 01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,080 Speaker 4: nothing to be embarrassed about getting put out by that stud. Right, 2029 01:36:58,280 --> 01:36:59,840 Speaker 4: But he was shocked, he was surprised. He did not 2030 01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:01,880 Speaker 4: think that never happened to him. He got jumped on quick. 2031 01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,719 Speaker 4: What's gonna happen. Let's rebound. Let's go to Abbi Daby, 2032 01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:07,760 Speaker 4: you know, not really an enemy territory, but you know 2033 01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,400 Speaker 4: Abu Dhabi is full of you know, Russians like to 2034 01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:12,400 Speaker 4: occupy Abu Dhabi. 2035 01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:13,559 Speaker 2: You're gonna go all the way out there. 2036 01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:15,160 Speaker 4: You're not gonna go out there to lose, and you're 2037 01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:19,160 Speaker 4: hanging in plus Monanny on me on big Bozo. Yeah, 2038 01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:21,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take a lots of Metafield here. I like 2039 01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,439 Speaker 4: his knockout power. I think uh speed's gonna be a 2040 01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:26,360 Speaker 4: problem for him in the beginning. And I think if 2041 01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:28,840 Speaker 4: you can stop some takedowns, Erza Khanoff doesn't really have 2042 01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:31,280 Speaker 4: much cordio as well. I think a lots of Metafield 2043 01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:33,519 Speaker 4: is gonna pick those big fucking elbows on his head 2044 01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:35,920 Speaker 4: if you chose to some takedowns I like, I like 2045 01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:37,200 Speaker 4: Zoe here, give me a Manifold. 2046 01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about future Alonzo Menifield calls as you're going 2047 01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:44,720 Speaker 1: bozo and whatever the fuck else you're saying. No, I 2048 01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,479 Speaker 1: love you, Murza Khanoff, Kenfilk coming off a unanimous decision 2049 01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:49,720 Speaker 1: went over Dustin Jacoby. Then he had to pull out 2050 01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:53,559 Speaker 1: of fights against Vulcanoos Tamir and Khalil Roundstree junioror a guy. 2051 01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,559 Speaker 1: They're given the number one contender and former champion Jamal Hill, right, 2052 01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:59,840 Speaker 1: so they're giving him big fights and on the other 2053 01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:03,479 Speaker 1: Menifield was momentous, not all that long ago. Right, he 2054 01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:05,560 Speaker 1: had a five fight on Beaten Street, go away, and 2055 01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:07,280 Speaker 1: it went away in twelve seconds at the hand of 2056 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:11,400 Speaker 1: Carlos Olbert. So you know, relatively quick turn given that 2057 01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:14,920 Speaker 1: result for Menifield, your thoughts on this light heavyweight prelim 2058 01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:15,639 Speaker 1: kent flip? 2059 01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:18,040 Speaker 5: You know, coming off the terrible week that I've had, 2060 01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:22,080 Speaker 5: perhaps I shouldn't have such strong sentiments on this fight, 2061 01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:25,840 Speaker 5: but I Menifield is not a guy that I can 2062 01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:29,439 Speaker 5: rely on to be that confident in like in this fight. 2063 01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,920 Speaker 5: And I think Murza Khanoff is actually a really good fighter. 2064 01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:36,120 Speaker 5: He's got that Russian style of striking where he kind 2065 01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:39,920 Speaker 5: of runs forward, throws that blitzing style of strikes. He 2066 01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,040 Speaker 5: has heavy hands. I don't think he's going to be 2067 01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:48,479 Speaker 5: as big and powerful as Menifield. And the one hiccup 2068 01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:51,800 Speaker 5: for me is what Brian pointed out is Murza Khanoff's conditioning. 2069 01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:55,640 Speaker 5: There are times where his pacing or his management of 2070 01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:59,920 Speaker 5: energy isn't ideal. However, I do like Mrza Khanoff here 2071 01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:03,360 Speaker 5: at the very least, I think I can just rely 2072 01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:05,599 Speaker 5: on him to be more consistent this fight. 2073 01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:07,320 Speaker 1: Can Minifield win this fight? 2074 01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:11,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I think he's really dangerous and powerful, But 2075 01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:14,960 Speaker 5: when I'm looking at this one, I gotta go with consistency, 2076 01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:19,200 Speaker 5: and for me, that's Mreza Khanoff All right three pm 2077 01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,320 Speaker 5: Eastern for that main card on ABC. The openers at 2078 01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,280 Speaker 5: lightweight Joel Alvarez minus one forty eight Elvis Brenner plus 2079 01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:27,920 Speaker 5: one twenty four. So the twenty six year old Brenner 2080 01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:31,080 Speaker 5: trains under the great Diego Lima alongside Charles Olivera and 2081 01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:33,280 Speaker 5: Sal Polo. Coming off as first UFC loss at UFC 2082 01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,920 Speaker 5: three zero one, now draws the highly touted Spaniard Joe L. 2083 01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:41,040 Speaker 5: Alvarez twenty pro wins Bry He's finished all of them. Really, 2084 01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:43,880 Speaker 5: I think people are gonna like this fight at fifty five. 2085 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:45,360 Speaker 5: Kind of wish I was calling it BP. What he 2086 01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:47,040 Speaker 5: had for us on the fifty five or skip. 2087 01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:50,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, stud fight love this file. Alvaz is a guy 2088 01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:52,479 Speaker 4: that they forget about. He's sixty three one fifty five. 2089 01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:54,759 Speaker 4: Let's se if he makes weight. He had some trouble 2090 01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:56,240 Speaker 4: on the scale before this. Se If he makes wait, 2091 01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:58,760 Speaker 4: but we don't see him enough. Once a year is 2092 01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:00,880 Speaker 4: not enough. He's coming off of good dark stroke win. 2093 01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:03,200 Speaker 4: He's very good on the ground with his long limbs. 2094 01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:05,680 Speaker 4: He's good standing up too, but he's good for a 2095 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:08,360 Speaker 4: long guy. He likes to keep it long. The minute 2096 01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,719 Speaker 4: you get crashed he gets crashed in on the minute 2097 01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:12,400 Speaker 4: it gets ugly, he wants to go to the ground. 2098 01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:13,200 Speaker 2: He's pulling guard. 2099 01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:15,320 Speaker 4: He doesn't like to stand up so much anymore. You know, 2100 01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:17,760 Speaker 4: a stand up look phenomenal against Jack and boys as 2101 01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:20,200 Speaker 4: Brenner though, this dude's a killer. This dude debuting in 2102 01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:22,960 Speaker 4: the UFC not that long ago, and he is just 2103 01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,559 Speaker 4: making an impression on me. A debut against a tough guy. 2104 01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,479 Speaker 4: Got past it, and he's only fighting tough guys and 2105 01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:31,800 Speaker 4: he's knocking him out and he looks phenomenal. And the 2106 01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,040 Speaker 4: big question mark for me for Brenner would be if 2107 01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,360 Speaker 4: this goes to the ground, what's his defense, like, what's 2108 01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:37,280 Speaker 4: his submission defense? 2109 01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:37,400 Speaker 6: Like? 2110 01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:39,400 Speaker 4: Is he gonna play it smart or is he gonna 2111 01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:42,160 Speaker 4: be just a buzz salling there. I'm gonna go buzzsaw 2112 01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:45,320 Speaker 4: because I like Brenner. Here, I plus money again. I'm 2113 01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:47,960 Speaker 4: not playing a safe I'm out a chalk bitch boy. 2114 01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:52,240 Speaker 2: We're going dogs give me Brenner should be a firework fight. 2115 01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:53,760 Speaker 2: Though I do not see this. I don't want to 2116 01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:55,680 Speaker 2: jinx it, but I do not see this going to 2117 01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:56,160 Speaker 2: the cards. 2118 01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:58,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't wear a T shirt with a cuss on it, 2119 01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:01,360 Speaker 1: but I'm not a shock bitch has a certain ring 2120 01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:01,760 Speaker 1: to it. 2121 01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:02,880 Speaker 2: So Joe l. 2122 01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:05,720 Speaker 1: Alvarez Ken Flow hasn't fought in just over a year. 2123 01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:07,439 Speaker 1: Visa issues forced him out of a match up with 2124 01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:09,560 Speaker 1: Ludavi Klin and March then had to withdraw from a 2125 01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:13,240 Speaker 1: fight against mattoos Round Betski in April. So it'll be Brenner, 2126 01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:15,400 Speaker 1: it'll be Abu Dhabi. Who do you like? 2127 01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:18,160 Speaker 5: This is gonna be a fun fight, and I agree 2128 01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:20,240 Speaker 5: with Brian, I'm not sure this one goes the distance. 2129 01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:24,280 Speaker 5: I think for Brenner in the game plan is pretty clear. 2130 01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:26,719 Speaker 5: He's got to get to the inside, utilize his boxing 2131 01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:29,880 Speaker 5: and his pressure to win this fight. Alvarez is really 2132 01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:32,680 Speaker 5: good with those long range strikes. He also has some 2133 01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:35,400 Speaker 5: nasty elbows on the inside that Brenner has to watch 2134 01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:37,680 Speaker 5: out for. But more than anything else, the guy is 2135 01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:43,080 Speaker 5: six foot three. That's a problem. But his takedown defense 2136 01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:44,639 Speaker 5: is basically non existent. 2137 01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:45,040 Speaker 1: You know. 2138 01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:47,320 Speaker 5: I don't know if it has to do with him 2139 01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:49,400 Speaker 5: being off balance a little bit on his kicks or 2140 01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:51,920 Speaker 5: him just not working on it strong enough. Certainly, Spain 2141 01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:56,200 Speaker 5: isn't really known for their wrestling necessarily, but he has 2142 01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:58,680 Speaker 5: shown big improvements and how he's sitting down on his 2143 01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:01,040 Speaker 5: punches now, he's gaining more power. When I look at 2144 01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:04,240 Speaker 5: his first fight to where he's at now, he's shown 2145 01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:06,760 Speaker 5: big improvements. And again with that a lot of time off, 2146 01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:09,920 Speaker 5: I think he's probably made more improvements yet. 2147 01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:10,640 Speaker 1: Still, so. 2148 01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:14,439 Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm gonna pick this one. If 2149 01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:16,320 Speaker 5: I'm gonna bet on this one, I should say, but 2150 01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,920 Speaker 5: I'm leaning towards Alvarez, but would not be surprised to 2151 01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:22,720 Speaker 5: see Brenner pull this off. He's tough as nails. We've 2152 01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:25,599 Speaker 5: seen him bloodied and batter before. He's going to fight 2153 01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:28,599 Speaker 5: to the absolute end. He I think he's got enough 2154 01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:31,800 Speaker 5: power to put Alvarez out, and Uh, this is gonna 2155 01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:32,679 Speaker 5: be fun while it lasts. 2156 01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:36,600 Speaker 1: Dude, Ken Fell playing so sick today. I had intentions 2157 01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:39,240 Speaker 1: to ask him at the end of this live broadcast 2158 01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:43,000 Speaker 1: about the Bitcoin convention that I think he just attended 2159 01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,920 Speaker 1: in Nationville, Tennessee. He was on a panel. He was 2160 01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:49,839 Speaker 1: there with Chris Cyborg and others. He ran into Kolbe Covington. 2161 01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:50,840 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about that at the 2162 01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:52,360 Speaker 1: end of the show, Camflow, but I don't want to 2163 01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:54,280 Speaker 1: be disrespectful of your time. 2164 01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:59,160 Speaker 5: But no, please please dot button. No, this is like 2165 01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:03,200 Speaker 5: a bitcoin os. I met a bunch of Anak and 2166 01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:06,400 Speaker 5: Florida in the podcast fans. Actually, yeah, that was pretty cool. 2167 01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, all right, all right it's straweite fellas 2168 01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:12,240 Speaker 1: seventh Frank mackenzie during minus one twenty five taking out 2169 01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:15,200 Speaker 1: number ten Lupy Go Dinez plus one oh five. So 2170 01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:19,240 Speaker 1: darn has now realigned with Jason Perillo. Perhaps that will 2171 01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:22,040 Speaker 1: bear fruit. She's dropped her last two stoppers, lost to 2172 01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:24,679 Speaker 1: Jessicon Drage, then a three round unanimous Sciors and lost 2173 01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,400 Speaker 1: to Amandalemosh at UFC two ninety eight and what I 2174 01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:29,439 Speaker 1: think might have been the fight of the night now Brice, 2175 01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:32,160 Speaker 1: she draws Go Dinez. Big fight at one hundred and 2176 01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:33,200 Speaker 1: fifteen pounds VP. 2177 01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:36,040 Speaker 2: Who takes love this fight? And you know, I pop 2178 01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:39,600 Speaker 2: on McKenzie Durn's Instagram every once in a wow A 2179 01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:43,000 Speaker 2: curious fella. But I saw she was a a Perillo 2180 01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:43,800 Speaker 2: and I love that. 2181 01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,160 Speaker 4: She needs to get back there right because the striking 2182 01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,680 Speaker 4: really took a dive without Perillo, and Perulo is one 2183 01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:52,639 Speaker 4: of the best hand guys in MMA. I truly believe 2184 01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:53,880 Speaker 4: that He's phenomenal, So. 2185 01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:54,840 Speaker 2: I like that she's going there. 2186 01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:57,760 Speaker 4: Hopefully she's improving her wrestling because she's gonna need it here. 2187 01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:00,280 Speaker 4: You know, Lupy fav Vinger Dando dro but last out, 2188 01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:03,000 Speaker 4: jener Joba got her down twice, but it was tough, 2189 01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:06,040 Speaker 4: and jener Joba's takedowns are great. Mackenzie Dern is not 2190 01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:08,640 Speaker 4: on that level yet. McKenzie Dern is gonna have to 2191 01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,560 Speaker 4: play the volume game against Loopy here. Lopy likes to 2192 01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:13,600 Speaker 4: play volume as well. This is going to be a 2193 01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:15,800 Speaker 4: tough fight, and I see a lot of press sure 2194 01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:17,920 Speaker 4: on me right now. People are probably cutting in this 2195 01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:19,840 Speaker 4: spot because they know VP knows chicks. 2196 01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:21,080 Speaker 1: This is a chick fight. 2197 01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,240 Speaker 2: But I really don't have a strong lean. 2198 01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Mackenzie durn because I feel like Loopy 2199 01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:28,400 Speaker 4: does like to mix and takedowns and maybe she gets 2200 01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:30,479 Speaker 4: confident she'll go to the ground. And the one thing 2201 01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:33,200 Speaker 4: about Mackenzie Dern is is she is so quick off 2202 01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:36,120 Speaker 4: her back deciding what to do. She doesn't set money, 2203 01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:37,880 Speaker 4: she sets it up, but she sets it up quick. 2204 01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:39,920 Speaker 4: Next thing, you know, your arms getting taken, your head, 2205 01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,800 Speaker 4: you ain't whatever. So I'm good to lean dern. I'm 2206 01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:45,760 Speaker 4: surprised she's the favorite, but I see this being a 2207 01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:47,640 Speaker 4: decision fight. I see this being if you're holding a 2208 01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:50,720 Speaker 4: ticket for either side, good fucking luck with judges show up. 2209 01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:53,439 Speaker 2: It should be a good fight though. But I'm a leaner. 2210 01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2211 01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:57,760 Speaker 1: No, this fight card is really awesome on ABC coming 2212 01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:00,400 Speaker 1: up this weekend. I hope you folks will turn in. Hey, Brian, 2213 01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:02,680 Speaker 1: do you think your wife, Erica Petree would let you 2214 01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:04,720 Speaker 1: french kiss Mackenzie Durned for ten seconds? Or no? 2215 01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:08,280 Speaker 4: No, No, My wife is extremely jealous. He watches the 2216 01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:11,360 Speaker 4: show and she doesn't like my comments. She's extreme. I 2217 01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:13,640 Speaker 4: have a checkered past, John, Okay, if she. 2218 01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:16,080 Speaker 2: Lives on my side of the town. So if we 2219 01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:18,639 Speaker 2: go out and the girl says, oh hey Brian, she goes, 2220 01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:20,320 Speaker 2: who the fuck? What's the history? 2221 01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:23,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Let's pay? 2222 01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:25,479 Speaker 2: Or no, would love the shout out. 2223 01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:28,599 Speaker 1: Yeah I'm trying to shout out. I'm really just wondering 2224 01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:31,160 Speaker 1: if she loves it, you know, maybe she might let 2225 01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:33,680 Speaker 1: you take advantage of you want a lifetime opportunity, if, 2226 01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:35,479 Speaker 1: like Mackenzie Durn thought you were cute. But I think 2227 01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:36,600 Speaker 1: she has aoyfriend, so she. 2228 01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:39,120 Speaker 2: Probably has a boyfriend, but who cares? Right, Uh, this 2229 01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:40,040 Speaker 2: is coming from marry man. 2230 01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:42,240 Speaker 4: But listen, my wife has a crush on you, John, 2231 01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:44,760 Speaker 4: so I would let you make her make out with 2232 01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:47,200 Speaker 4: you for ten seconds and I get around with McKenzie durn. 2233 01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:49,920 Speaker 2: I'd be willing to switch a little bit. Well, you 2234 01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:52,320 Speaker 2: know you're a married man as well, so we'll leave 2235 01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:52,600 Speaker 2: it at that. 2236 01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:54,519 Speaker 1: So now after the show, I'm supposed to ask my 2237 01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:56,880 Speaker 1: wife if she'll let me make out with Erica for 2238 01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:57,479 Speaker 1: ten seconds. 2239 01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:00,280 Speaker 4: Is that well, then your wife, your wife could Yeah, 2240 01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:02,559 Speaker 4: your wife is gonna drop a name like Okay, that's fine, 2241 01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:05,400 Speaker 4: I get to make out with and so right, that's 2242 01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:06,799 Speaker 4: how it happens, right. 2243 01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:13,920 Speaker 1: All right, this show has really dissolved Kenny Loopy Godinez. 2244 01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:17,080 Speaker 1: I don't know who she's making out with, but she 2245 01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:19,160 Speaker 1: had one for in a row before she ran into 2246 01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:21,640 Speaker 1: Veena cat out on Gi Doba in Atlantic City in 2247 01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:25,120 Speaker 1: late March. Of course, that Janty Dooba loss has aged 2248 01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:27,200 Speaker 1: Graceful VI in his next fight could very well be 2249 01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:29,040 Speaker 1: for the title. But a huge spot here obviously for 2250 01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:33,920 Speaker 1: uh for Loopy godenas can flow against Mackenzie Loopy Loopita. 2251 01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I said I think that Brian did a 2252 01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:40,519 Speaker 5: great breakdown, but I think he's looking at this with 2253 01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:42,960 Speaker 5: derned colored sunglasses here. 2254 01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:45,960 Speaker 2: It's true, I think, I think. 2255 01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:51,400 Speaker 5: I think that Godinaz has excellent wrestling. She does not 2256 01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:53,920 Speaker 5: want to use this offensively. She needs to use this 2257 01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:57,600 Speaker 5: defensively and really fight a very similar game plan to 2258 01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:00,760 Speaker 5: what she did against Jenji Home. But now I think 2259 01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:05,599 Speaker 5: that in that fight against Virna, she showed that she's 2260 01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,920 Speaker 5: able to get out of some really nasty spots. She's 2261 01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:14,439 Speaker 5: able to survive in some really good grappling exchanges. However, 2262 01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:17,880 Speaker 5: as good as Jenidoba is right with her grappling, she 2263 01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:21,160 Speaker 5: doesn't have the same potency as far as the submission 2264 01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:23,680 Speaker 5: game that McKenzie Dirt has, and she certainly doesn't have 2265 01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:27,360 Speaker 5: the same level of credentials that McKenzie Dirt has. However, 2266 01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:31,280 Speaker 5: Mackenzie Dern doesn't have anywhere close to either the striking 2267 01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:34,760 Speaker 5: or the wrestling that Jenidoba has. And I think that's 2268 01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:38,880 Speaker 5: a critical fight now if Godinez kind of goes back 2269 01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,439 Speaker 5: to like because she does have great entries and she 2270 01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,479 Speaker 5: has a tendency of like striking into the clinch and 2271 01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:46,960 Speaker 5: just taking people down. If she decides to do that 2272 01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:49,920 Speaker 5: against Mackenzie Durty, it could be trouble and sometimes you 2273 01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:52,200 Speaker 5: kind of revert back to your default. She does not 2274 01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:54,800 Speaker 5: want to do this. She has to be extremely disciplined 2275 01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:58,920 Speaker 5: and present during this fight. Use her wrestling defensively, keep 2276 01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:00,880 Speaker 5: this one of the feet well she where she will 2277 01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:04,320 Speaker 5: have the advantage. And I just wrestling is one of 2278 01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,679 Speaker 5: those things that takes so long to learn. I don't 2279 01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:10,479 Speaker 5: see McKenzie looking any differently here. Just like a knockout puncher. 2280 01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:11,200 Speaker 1: She has a chance. 2281 01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:13,040 Speaker 5: If this goes to the ground, she could finish anybody 2282 01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,519 Speaker 5: in that division. I just don't see here getting the 2283 01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:20,040 Speaker 5: takedown against Godenas here. I like Godnas by decision. So yeah, 2284 01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:20,680 Speaker 5: that's how I see it. 2285 01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:23,719 Speaker 1: Really nicely done, Ken Flow. If you are not listening 2286 01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:26,720 Speaker 1: to these two fellas and you are betting on the 2287 01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:30,160 Speaker 1: UFC on DraftKings Sportsbook, you're doing yourself a disservice. I 2288 01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:32,880 Speaker 1: appreciate your commitment fellas every week. Sincerely, all right, welts 2289 01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:35,960 Speaker 1: your way. Michael Kissi minus five fifty, Tony Ferguson plus 2290 01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:37,479 Speaker 1: four to ten, Ken Fla, I'd like you to lead 2291 01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:39,559 Speaker 1: us off on this one, if you would so, When 2292 01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:42,560 Speaker 1: Jason initially sent you guys the betting lines, Kisa was 2293 01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:46,040 Speaker 1: minus four to ten. He's now minus five point fifty, 2294 01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:48,639 Speaker 1: which sounds to me like a lot of parley fodder. 2295 01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:51,800 Speaker 1: These two. Initially, Kenny were to face off in South 2296 01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:55,080 Speaker 1: Dakota in twenty sixteen, which incidentally was our last night 2297 01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:58,080 Speaker 1: on the microphone together. Kisa pulled out of that fight 2298 01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:00,679 Speaker 1: with a back injury, a back injury that has reared 2299 01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:03,680 Speaker 1: its ugly head throughout his career. I know Kis has 2300 01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:06,560 Speaker 1: thrilled this Ferguson fight was presented. Kenny, what do you 2301 01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:08,639 Speaker 1: make of this matchup now coming together at one hundred 2302 01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:09,240 Speaker 1: and seventy pounds. 2303 01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:11,280 Speaker 5: Well, it's certainly a fight that makes sense, and it 2304 01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:15,160 Speaker 5: makes sense that one hundred and seventy pounds, you know. 2305 01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:19,840 Speaker 5: I think Kis still has what it takes with his 2306 01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:22,920 Speaker 5: grappling to get this to get it done here. I 2307 01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:25,840 Speaker 5: think that the striking from both men largely kind of 2308 01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:28,840 Speaker 5: cancel each other out. Like, Ferguson doesn't have the same 2309 01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:32,280 Speaker 5: level of potency that he did at fifty five, and 2310 01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:34,720 Speaker 5: I don't see that potency being present here at one 2311 01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:37,840 Speaker 5: hundred and seventy pounds. Kios is not known as the 2312 01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:40,760 Speaker 5: best striker in the world either, but I do think 2313 01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:44,120 Speaker 5: that his length is going to help him here. I 2314 01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:46,879 Speaker 5: think his ability to get to the clinch give Ferguson 2315 01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:47,479 Speaker 5: a tough time. 2316 01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:48,240 Speaker 1: In the clinch. 2317 01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:51,000 Speaker 5: There will be critical He's gonna have to stay busy, 2318 01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:53,320 Speaker 5: and he's gonna have to be successful with his takedowns. 2319 01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:57,639 Speaker 5: And I just don't see Ferguson being dangerous dangerous enough 2320 01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:01,360 Speaker 5: with his grappling, certainly not off of his back to 2321 01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:03,840 Speaker 5: give Kiysa a tough time. I see this one going 2322 01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:06,560 Speaker 5: to decision. I think kiys is a big favorite for 2323 01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:09,800 Speaker 5: a reason. You know, when I look at you know, 2324 01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:12,679 Speaker 5: the damage that they've taken. I think Ferguson has taken 2325 01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:15,240 Speaker 5: more damage over the course of his career than Kiyesa has. 2326 01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:18,439 Speaker 5: But you also have to look at motivation. Where are 2327 01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:20,439 Speaker 5: these guys at mentally at this point of the career, 2328 01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:22,960 Speaker 5: out of their career. Is Kisa just taken this just 2329 01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:24,679 Speaker 5: to kind of have a fight own under his belt 2330 01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:27,080 Speaker 5: and you know, make some money or is he really 2331 01:50:27,120 --> 01:50:30,160 Speaker 5: in this to kind of look good and fight hard. 2332 01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:32,680 Speaker 1: I think he is, And if he is doing that, 2333 01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:36,760 Speaker 1: I like Kiyosa here, all right, Brian Ferguson's last win 2334 01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:40,040 Speaker 1: you have C two thirty eight June of twenty nineteen 2335 01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:42,439 Speaker 1: against Donald Cowboys Seroni. He's lost seven in a row, 2336 01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:45,200 Speaker 1: all on numbered pay per view cards. Now back on 2337 01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:47,439 Speaker 1: a fight night for the first time since twenty sixteen. 2338 01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,599 Speaker 1: How do we handicap this matchup? Brian for the now 2339 01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,880 Speaker 1: forty year old el Ku Kui man tough right. 2340 01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:55,760 Speaker 2: Seven in the row room, Tony fergus he would have 2341 01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:56,160 Speaker 2: thought right. 2342 01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,360 Speaker 4: And Michael Kisses he's lost three in a row, and 2343 01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:01,120 Speaker 4: Michael Kiessa hasn't really looked great. And those three losses either, 2344 01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:03,080 Speaker 4: I mean Sean Brady bodied them and he got joked 2345 01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:05,800 Speaker 4: out twice. This is a guy who can't say what 2346 01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:07,720 Speaker 4: I when I cap I get a little worried about 2347 01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:10,080 Speaker 4: the guys that are dipping their toes in the analysts field. 2348 01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:13,240 Speaker 4: You know what, which is great? I love that they 2349 01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:16,000 Speaker 4: have something set up after fighting. But he's gonna be 2350 01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,680 Speaker 4: thirty seven in December. Where's the motivation at? Are we 2351 01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:20,400 Speaker 4: making a push here? We make it a run because 2352 01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:23,160 Speaker 4: the past few years you've been really inconsistent fighting. You're 2353 01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:25,960 Speaker 4: fighting once maybe twice a year. That's not really what 2354 01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:28,559 Speaker 4: top contenders are doing. So I'm trying to figure out 2355 01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:30,599 Speaker 4: what Michael Kiosa is and when I when I'm doing 2356 01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:32,400 Speaker 4: that at minus. 2357 01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:33,840 Speaker 2: Five fifty, it's a layoff for me. 2358 01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:36,040 Speaker 4: I can't even though I think Kiyosa can take this 2359 01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:39,679 Speaker 4: fight to the ground control position. Look good, Tony Ferguson 2360 01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:41,760 Speaker 4: doesn't his ground game off the back. The tricks he 2361 01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:44,439 Speaker 4: used to have don't work anymore, and he just kind 2362 01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:46,639 Speaker 4: of lays there. We've seen it in his past few fights. 2363 01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:50,120 Speaker 4: But you know, I never lay off a fight, right. 2364 01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:52,560 Speaker 4: I'm good at play a prop, which I'll say for 2365 01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:54,880 Speaker 4: Place to bets, there's a prop I'm gonna play. 2366 01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:58,080 Speaker 2: I'll play that little tease as far as I gun 2367 01:51:58,240 --> 01:51:58,679 Speaker 2: to my head. 2368 01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:01,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, give me Kiyosa for the grappling and maybe the youth, 2369 01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:05,439 Speaker 4: But I just don't feel confident picking such a giant 2370 01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:07,760 Speaker 4: favorite when I don't know who's gonna show up. 2371 01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:10,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I kind of feel like we need 2372 01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:13,160 Speaker 1: to have a minimum wager when it comes to our 2373 01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:16,320 Speaker 1: place your bet segment, right, because you guys, oftentimes I 2374 01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:18,479 Speaker 1: don't know that anyone is placed to bet below one 2375 01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:22,120 Speaker 1: hundred dollars all year. But BP wants to am I wrong. Like, 2376 01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:23,800 Speaker 1: have you placed a fifty dollar bet? 2377 01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:26,840 Speaker 2: I think Kenny might have once or no, maybe he's 2378 01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:29,280 Speaker 2: done one fifty. The bet I'm going to place the 2379 01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:30,200 Speaker 2: nason you're. 2380 01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:31,920 Speaker 1: Saying that is, I'm going to say a fifty dollars 2381 01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:34,559 Speaker 1: you're gonna bet on Tony. You're gonna bet on Tony 2382 01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:36,960 Speaker 1: Ferguson for fifty dollars by submission, right. 2383 01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:39,639 Speaker 4: Get out of my fucking head, bro, Yeah, that's actually 2384 01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:43,519 Speaker 4: what I'm doing exactly. Tony got like seventeen dars jokes 2385 01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:45,639 Speaker 4: and Mike Guess falls into dars. 2386 01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:49,560 Speaker 1: Every dude we are on the same Yeah, crazy, not 2387 01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:53,080 Speaker 1: just seeing Ferguson submission prop, but just. 2388 01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:56,280 Speaker 2: It's not out yet, but it's gonna be glorious. 2389 01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:59,760 Speaker 1: All right, that's funny. Minimum wager for place your bets 2390 01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:02,280 Speaker 1: for you guys, it's fifty dollars, right, can you imagine? 2391 01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:04,439 Speaker 1: Be like, all right, I'm gonna also do a ten 2392 01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:08,920 Speaker 1: dollars kicker, right, a ten dollars fourteen fight round robin 2393 01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:11,600 Speaker 1: picking every fight on the card. So maybe we'll have 2394 01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:13,920 Speaker 1: fun with that in the future. But fifth for you guys, 2395 01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,040 Speaker 1: moving forward, I like it speak it a bit at 2396 01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:17,840 Speaker 1: a forward featured bout in the bandamweight division. It will 2397 01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:20,479 Speaker 1: be the former two time UFC flyweight champion Davison Figuretto 2398 01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:23,720 Speaker 1: minus one sixty six taken on Marlin Cheeto Vera, who 2399 01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:27,800 Speaker 1: is plus one forty gosh, Davison Figuretto, our producer Cody 2400 01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:29,880 Speaker 1: Merrow's favorite fighter. He had a big rear naked choke 2401 01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:32,200 Speaker 1: of Cody Garbret at UFC three hundred and that bride 2402 01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:35,320 Speaker 1: came after a strong decision went over Rob font last December. 2403 01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:37,800 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he's creeping on the top five 2404 01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:40,880 Speaker 1: in a second division. He's favored here against the recent 2405 01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,000 Speaker 1: world title challenger Marlon chiedto Vera. What he have for 2406 01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:44,880 Speaker 1: us on a huge fight here at thirty five. 2407 01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:47,120 Speaker 4: Love this fight probably my favorite fighting the card. I mean, 2408 01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:50,040 Speaker 4: the main event is the highest of levels, but this 2409 01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:51,720 Speaker 4: might be one of my favorite fights on the gund 2410 01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:54,720 Speaker 4: No one's cooler than Cheetoh. Let's do just cool as shit, right, 2411 01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:58,040 Speaker 4: you see him on Instagram. His hair is always different, right, 2412 01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:01,160 Speaker 4: He's driving all these old cars. He's a cool fucking dude. 2413 01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:01,400 Speaker 1: Right. 2414 01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:03,639 Speaker 2: I think he smokes cigarette still, who knows? 2415 01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:06,919 Speaker 1: Like the dude is just a cool fighters who smokes cigarette? 2416 01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:10,560 Speaker 1: Shot Crochet Boss Morris Green smokes on the way to 2417 01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:11,200 Speaker 1: the octagon. 2418 01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:14,680 Speaker 4: Quentin Jackson used to smoke back in Pride, like you know, 2419 01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:17,600 Speaker 4: he's just a cool guy, right, and his performance with. 2420 01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:19,800 Speaker 2: Sean O'Malley Sean Maley out class him a little bit. 2421 01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:23,320 Speaker 4: But he took that hillacious knee and Cheeto Verra's durability's 2422 01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:25,840 Speaker 4: always been talked about. If that didn't put him down 2423 01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:28,439 Speaker 4: or at least put him out, what is what's gonna 2424 01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:31,240 Speaker 4: put him out? But I love Figgie at one thirty five. 2425 01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:33,760 Speaker 4: I didn't think I would the raw, funfight. He mixed 2426 01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:37,000 Speaker 4: up his wrestling and takedown so good, and there's just 2427 01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:38,320 Speaker 4: this energy. 2428 01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:38,600 Speaker 1: You know. 2429 01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:41,480 Speaker 4: One twenty five had to have killed this guy, right, 2430 01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:43,760 Speaker 4: had to have sucked him drive because he goes under 2431 01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:45,640 Speaker 4: Cody garment and we're all thinking it's gonna be a 2432 01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:47,760 Speaker 4: stand up bangam Cody Gardban's got a little bit of 2433 01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:49,600 Speaker 4: a chintz shoot and he goes, WHOA. This guy's never 2434 01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:52,000 Speaker 4: been tested wrestling. We haven't seen his wrestling. Let's test 2435 01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:55,760 Speaker 4: his ground game. Guess what there's there. He took his back, 2436 01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:59,040 Speaker 4: choked him out and looked really good doing it. I 2437 01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:01,320 Speaker 4: think he's gonna have a similar path here against Marlon 2438 01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:04,960 Speaker 4: Cheeto Vera. Uh Cheeto Vera is seventy percent takedown of fence. 2439 01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:06,800 Speaker 4: I think it's a little glaring. I think it's a 2440 01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:10,000 Speaker 4: good number, but he does is susceptible getting taken down. 2441 01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:12,280 Speaker 4: I think Figgi's gonna mix it in. Well, it's gonna 2442 01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:14,480 Speaker 4: be your classic Cheeto fight. Figure's gonna win one and 2443 01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:17,280 Speaker 4: two and then Cheeto's gonna come back in round three 2444 01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:19,400 Speaker 4: like a classic Cheeto because he starts slow. 2445 01:55:19,720 --> 01:55:22,120 Speaker 2: And last week I went all in on RN Island. 2446 01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:24,240 Speaker 4: You know it's a lightning strike, you know, I get 2447 01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:26,200 Speaker 4: these lightning bolts right on the tip of the dick 2448 01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:29,560 Speaker 4: and you got a fire away. This one's not quite 2449 01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:32,120 Speaker 4: like that. I'm picking Figgy. It's more of like one 2450 01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:35,080 Speaker 4: of those static shocks that you get right. I got 2451 01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:36,160 Speaker 4: a static shock on this. 2452 01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:37,240 Speaker 2: I saw the board. 2453 01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:39,480 Speaker 4: I'm seeing it clearly. I'm putting a lot of money 2454 01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:41,360 Speaker 4: on Figgy. I like him in the spot. I like 2455 01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:43,720 Speaker 4: the load number. Good be by decision. I don't think 2456 01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:44,560 Speaker 4: he's getting cheto. 2457 01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:44,720 Speaker 2: Out of there. 2458 01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:48,080 Speaker 1: Nice job, Brian, Brian, what's your middle name? Brian? 2459 01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:48,800 Speaker 2: Timothy? 2460 01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:52,920 Speaker 1: Brian Timothy Petrie. I like all you BTP here too 2461 01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:54,920 Speaker 1: four cam Flow Chiato is still number four in the 2462 01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:59,520 Speaker 1: world after fighting O'Malley for the bell Figuretto number six vera, 2463 01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:02,040 Speaker 1: though in danger at least on paper of losing three 2464 01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:05,760 Speaker 1: of four here. He did get that title shot after 2465 01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:08,640 Speaker 1: the win over Pedro Munoz, but prior was outclassed by 2466 01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:13,400 Speaker 1: Corey Sandhagen. So for Cheeto, this is really the one 2467 01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:15,160 Speaker 1: that he needs to have if he's going to get 2468 01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:19,480 Speaker 1: back on any sort of precipice. And I love this 2469 01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:21,400 Speaker 1: fight as much as Brian does. We might go live 2470 01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:23,720 Speaker 1: for it on the Anakin Florin podcast YouTube channel canflow. 2471 01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:24,560 Speaker 1: Who do you like? Number four? 2472 01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:28,760 Speaker 5: Number six at thirty five another barn Burner here, gentlemen, listen. 2473 01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:32,120 Speaker 5: I think that based on their style, this one is 2474 01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:35,520 Speaker 5: really intriguing to me. What I like about Davison is 2475 01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:38,200 Speaker 5: the fact that he's aggressive. He likes getting in your face. 2476 01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:43,080 Speaker 5: That's when Cheeto thrives. In my opinion, Cheeto struggles against 2477 01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:46,000 Speaker 5: guys who can stick and move, guys that have really 2478 01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:49,760 Speaker 5: good footwork. Now Davison is capable of that a little bit, 2479 01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:54,440 Speaker 5: but he's not necessarily known for doing that for every 2480 01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:58,120 Speaker 5: minute of every round. He's at his best when he's 2481 01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:01,760 Speaker 5: being the bully, when he's fucking you know, drugging forward, 2482 01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:05,280 Speaker 5: chugging forward, I can't even talk and looking for takedowns 2483 01:57:05,320 --> 01:57:08,560 Speaker 5: and things like that. If he's able to hit a 2484 01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:11,160 Speaker 5: takedown against Cheeto, I think that will serve him well. 2485 01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:12,760 Speaker 5: I don't see him give him a whole lot of 2486 01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:15,240 Speaker 5: trouble when it comes to like the positional jiu jitsu game. 2487 01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:17,440 Speaker 5: I think he can do some damage with his ground 2488 01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:19,680 Speaker 5: and pound, but I don't know. 2489 01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:21,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's. 2490 01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:24,400 Speaker 5: Gonna get away with not getting hit with something like 2491 01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:27,720 Speaker 5: a knee or an elbow or a punch as he 2492 01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:32,440 Speaker 5: comes forward for too long. I think early on absolutely 2493 01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:34,560 Speaker 5: Figuredo is gonna have the advantage for sure. 2494 01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:38,160 Speaker 1: And Cheeto, like Brian talked about, does turn it on 2495 01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:38,800 Speaker 1: at the end. 2496 01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:43,880 Speaker 5: And you know, and sometimes Davison doesn't always come in 2497 01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:46,320 Speaker 5: the greatest shape. Sometimes we've seen him get tired before. 2498 01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:50,440 Speaker 5: Cheeto does not get tired. So but more than anything else, 2499 01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:52,800 Speaker 5: I think the way they match up, I think that 2500 01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:56,320 Speaker 5: we're gonna see a lot of strikes exchange, and I 2501 01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:59,120 Speaker 5: like Cheeto if that's gonna be the case. So I'm 2502 01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:02,600 Speaker 5: leaning towards Cheetoh, this is going to be interesting because 2503 01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:05,920 Speaker 5: things can change very quickly. Brian did an amazing job 2504 01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:08,800 Speaker 5: last week. He may just surpass me after this week 2505 01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:11,400 Speaker 5: because I think we have a lot of different picks. 2506 01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:12,960 Speaker 1: I'll leave Fords Cheeto here. 2507 01:58:13,320 --> 01:58:13,760 Speaker 2: I love it. 2508 01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:16,240 Speaker 1: Really well done, Ken Flow that segues us to the 2509 01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:18,760 Speaker 1: comin event it was to be Vicente Luke and Nick 2510 01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:21,800 Speaker 1: Diaz a lot of us. I think we're expectant that 2511 01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:24,400 Speaker 1: that fight would either be canceled or postponed. So your 2512 01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:27,080 Speaker 1: new co main event, Bri have midleweight features the thirteen 2513 01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:29,760 Speaker 1: to zero shot a bullet Mago Metob making the quick 2514 01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:32,720 Speaker 1: turn at minus two sixty five against Mikhal Olekshijuk who 2515 01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:35,840 Speaker 1: was plus two fifteen. So shar Bullet just competed and 2516 01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:39,080 Speaker 1: won in Abu Dhabi last month. Despite the fact that 2517 01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:41,440 Speaker 1: he did bonus Bry, I'm not sure you extract too 2518 01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:44,120 Speaker 1: much positivity from that performance. If I am being a 2519 01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:47,280 Speaker 1: man of complete veracity. Took on the last minute replacement 2520 01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:51,600 Speaker 1: Antonio Trocoli, who arrived morning of the way. But mago 2521 01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:55,200 Speaker 1: Metov definitely a finisher, really unorthodox striker with a lot 2522 01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:57,120 Speaker 1: of great kicks. In his arsenal, He's knocked out eleven 2523 01:58:57,160 --> 01:59:00,240 Speaker 1: of his thirteen victims and now he draws the hard 2524 01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:04,400 Speaker 1: nosed Ali slak BTP. Who do you like this is? 2525 01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:06,760 Speaker 4: This is one of the few times I'm ever gonna 2526 01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:09,440 Speaker 4: complain about and I'm never gonna complain, but about doing 2527 01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:11,160 Speaker 4: it so early in the week because I need a 2528 01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:13,800 Speaker 4: little more time. I think there's a live dog here 2529 01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:16,640 Speaker 4: in all the shay check. He's only lost to really 2530 01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:17,720 Speaker 4: hard like grapplers. 2531 01:59:17,720 --> 01:59:20,280 Speaker 2: You can get you down, submitche That's not the Bullets game. 2532 01:59:20,360 --> 01:59:20,520 Speaker 6: You know. 2533 01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:23,560 Speaker 4: He lost a colt decision against Justin Jacoby. Other than that, 2534 01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:27,040 Speaker 4: if you stand up with this guy, he typically wins. 2535 01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:29,320 Speaker 4: And the Bullet is a guy who's gonna want to 2536 01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:31,760 Speaker 4: stand up with you. We got a boxer primarily with 2537 01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:34,040 Speaker 4: all the shape check and a really fancy kicker who 2538 01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:35,960 Speaker 4: also has good hands with with Sharah. 2539 01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:37,400 Speaker 2: I love the Bullet here. 2540 01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:39,760 Speaker 4: I wish he would change his nickname the Pirate because 2541 01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:41,920 Speaker 4: he dresses sometimes like a pirate. 2542 01:59:41,960 --> 01:59:44,120 Speaker 2: He's got the eye thing. He talks about. 2543 01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:48,080 Speaker 4: Going sailing to different lands and taking all the gold. Right, yeah, 2544 01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:49,120 Speaker 4: this you need to walk out. 2545 01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:51,160 Speaker 2: With a parrot. Have a parrot corner him. I don't know. 2546 01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:53,760 Speaker 4: I'm not his manager, but I need to be because 2547 01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:56,440 Speaker 4: we got a marketing team behind this guy. He's a 2548 01:59:56,480 --> 02:00:00,160 Speaker 4: phenomenal fighter. He was the Reddit guy that everyone's talked 2549 02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:02,240 Speaker 4: about and Reddit and I to discover him. And then 2550 02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:03,960 Speaker 4: I looked at the tape of him. I thought he's okay. 2551 02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:06,560 Speaker 4: I slid slam the brakes a little bit. Bruno Silvo 2552 02:00:06,680 --> 02:00:08,760 Speaker 4: is a tough debut. He got past it the last 2553 02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:09,160 Speaker 4: time out. 2554 02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:11,280 Speaker 2: You know, he did what he had to do. I'm 2555 02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:13,360 Speaker 2: going to pick the bullet because I do like his skills. 2556 02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:14,960 Speaker 4: I do like his ability to kick. I think he 2557 02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:17,840 Speaker 4: has better movement than Ola Shaycheck but Olo Shaye scheck Man. 2558 02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:21,000 Speaker 4: I'm telling you this could be a flip switch switch, 2559 02:00:21,080 --> 02:00:23,320 Speaker 4: a rude the old Texas switch later in the week, 2560 02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:26,040 Speaker 4: because this dog's staring at me and I might, I 2561 02:00:26,160 --> 02:00:27,040 Speaker 4: might take a bite out of that. 2562 02:00:27,160 --> 02:00:30,080 Speaker 2: But right now, him in the bullet, I think. 2563 02:00:29,960 --> 02:00:32,720 Speaker 1: I know why his nickname isn't pirate Brian, I'm not sure. 2564 02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:36,200 Speaker 1: Trying to draw extra ten to the eye to the eye, 2565 02:00:36,280 --> 02:00:38,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I I can't sit here right now. July 2566 02:00:38,280 --> 02:00:39,920 Speaker 1: twenty nine to twenty twenty four, and even tell you 2567 02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:41,880 Speaker 1: the extent to which he can see out of the fuck. 2568 02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:42,160 Speaker 3: True. 2569 02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:44,840 Speaker 4: So he came to America right during the during the 2570 02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:47,320 Speaker 4: International Fight Week and was like, Yeah, I'm ready to fight. 2571 02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:49,120 Speaker 4: I can fight in America, wasn't he? 2572 02:00:49,160 --> 02:00:51,000 Speaker 1: There was that wrong about that? Yeah? No, he did 2573 02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:53,320 Speaker 1: come to the US as a fan. He was acting 2574 02:00:53,360 --> 02:00:55,960 Speaker 1: onside for UFC three oh three, and uh yeah, no, 2575 02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:59,120 Speaker 1: I have no inside information, as is the case, sure 2576 02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:01,640 Speaker 1: kenthll all the Shaeluk has been submitted in three of 2577 02:01:01,720 --> 02:01:04,520 Speaker 1: his last four, but by a lot of credentialed fighters, 2578 02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:07,720 Speaker 1: Kyle Bohalio, Michel Paday to Kevin Holland. He's got seven 2579 02:01:07,880 --> 02:01:11,360 Speaker 1: UFC wins, does Olikshajak? Six of those have come by knockout? 2580 02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:14,840 Speaker 1: Should be a strike is delight here at Abu Dhabi Kenny? 2581 02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:16,280 Speaker 1: Which way you going on this one? Here in the 2582 02:01:16,320 --> 02:01:18,320 Speaker 1: comen event? This is a true This is a. 2583 02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:21,320 Speaker 5: Tricky one because, as Brian talked about, olek Seichuk is 2584 02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:24,960 Speaker 5: very good as a striker and mago Metov is not 2585 02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:27,560 Speaker 5: going to present that grappling style that has given him 2586 02:01:28,640 --> 02:01:33,600 Speaker 5: trouble in the past. And olek Seychuk is he's got 2587 02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:37,360 Speaker 5: knockout power. Sometimes he doesn't manage his energy so well. 2588 02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:41,000 Speaker 5: We've seen him get tired in the past, so curious 2589 02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:44,360 Speaker 5: to see how he looks in round three. Mago Metov 2590 02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:48,400 Speaker 5: very potent striker, very good. I'm not sure he's delivered 2591 02:01:50,320 --> 02:01:52,200 Speaker 5: in regards to all that hype that he came into 2592 02:01:52,240 --> 02:01:54,880 Speaker 5: the UFC with. So he's got to be careful here, 2593 02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:58,080 Speaker 5: and sometimes he just he'll get a little complacent, He'll 2594 02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:01,200 Speaker 5: get a little lazy. Sometimes he won't have that same 2595 02:02:01,320 --> 02:02:04,600 Speaker 5: level of defensive responsibility that he should have. And again, 2596 02:02:04,680 --> 02:02:07,520 Speaker 5: someone like Alex, Sayshock, he's got to really be careful here. 2597 02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:12,080 Speaker 5: So this is a tough one. This is a real 2598 02:02:12,160 --> 02:02:13,880 Speaker 5: tough one. I don't know which way I'm gonna go. 2599 02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:16,520 Speaker 5: I don't think I'm gonna bet this one. Might be 2600 02:02:16,680 --> 02:02:19,840 Speaker 5: leaning towards Muga Metoff here, but I could easily see 2601 02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:21,440 Speaker 5: Alex sy Chuck winning winning this one. 2602 02:02:22,120 --> 02:02:28,080 Speaker 1: Former Tampa Bay and Arizona Third Basement Evan Longoria doesn't 2603 02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:30,360 Speaker 1: like when you fenced it. Are you guys required by 2604 02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:32,400 Speaker 1: Evan to make a pick on the comane and the 2605 02:02:32,480 --> 02:02:38,600 Speaker 1: main or just the main? I forget either way. He 2606 02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:42,480 Speaker 1: is so demanding. Gosh, all right, Main event, Ken blow 2607 02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:45,200 Speaker 1: is gonna lead us here a true bantamweight title eliminator 2608 02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:47,560 Speaker 1: between two of the best in the world, tenth ranked 2609 02:02:47,680 --> 02:02:51,040 Speaker 1: Umar and or Mago Metoff, the minus three ten favorite 2610 02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:54,320 Speaker 1: against the number two rank contender and former interim title challenger, 2611 02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:57,800 Speaker 1: Corey Sandaigan. He comes back plus two fifty would certainly 2612 02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:00,760 Speaker 1: direct you back to our conversation with him, which was 2613 02:03:00,840 --> 02:03:03,760 Speaker 1: very telling earlier today. I think it's crazy canny to 2614 02:03:03,800 --> 02:03:05,600 Speaker 1: see a number as big as two fifty next to 2615 02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:09,000 Speaker 1: the name Sanhagen, but that Nirmago Medoff surname obviously rings 2616 02:03:09,040 --> 02:03:12,520 Speaker 1: true with bookmakers and betters alike. Umar is a real problem. 2617 02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:15,000 Speaker 1: Twenty eight years old, He's seventeen and oh five and 2618 02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:17,400 Speaker 1: oh in a UFC career that dates to January of 2619 02:03:17,440 --> 02:03:21,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. A decided step up in competition for Umar. 2620 02:03:21,640 --> 02:03:24,440 Speaker 1: He has twice prepared for this fight against Corey Sandhagen. 2621 02:03:24,720 --> 02:03:27,040 Speaker 1: Can't wait for the main event live on ABC. Kenny Flooryan, 2622 02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:27,560 Speaker 1: who do you have? 2623 02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:31,000 Speaker 5: I wish we could have another two or three fights 2624 02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:33,520 Speaker 5: from Nirmaga Metof to really. 2625 02:03:33,440 --> 02:03:34,520 Speaker 1: Know how good he is. 2626 02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:38,000 Speaker 5: However, based on what I've seen, the dude's a problem. 2627 02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:42,120 Speaker 5: His long range strikes are really tricky and it's super unique. 2628 02:03:42,160 --> 02:03:45,400 Speaker 5: As Corey was talking about, rarely do you see a 2629 02:03:45,480 --> 02:03:49,440 Speaker 5: guy who has kind of a karate or taekwondo style 2630 02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:52,440 Speaker 5: of game, but then he can also get into the 2631 02:03:52,520 --> 02:03:54,800 Speaker 5: clinch and throw you on your head and control. 2632 02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:57,720 Speaker 1: You and beat you up there. So it's just really unusual. 2633 02:03:57,840 --> 02:03:59,880 Speaker 5: Typically you'll see guys who are really good as grapp 2634 02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:04,000 Speaker 5: they have decent hands, but it's all about getting to 2635 02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:05,680 Speaker 5: your body and putting you on your back. 2636 02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:07,880 Speaker 1: And Nirmaga Manov isn't that dude. 2637 02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:11,320 Speaker 5: He's really dangerous from the outside, which is why it 2638 02:04:11,480 --> 02:04:15,920 Speaker 5: makes it very tricky for me. However, Sanhagan has been 2639 02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:19,840 Speaker 5: there and done that. He's a really intelligent fighter. He 2640 02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:23,080 Speaker 5: has a lot of different tools. He's tough as nails, 2641 02:04:23,960 --> 02:04:27,320 Speaker 5: very long and lanky for the division as well, and 2642 02:04:27,440 --> 02:04:30,960 Speaker 5: you gotta imagine he's done his homework here and seeing 2643 02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:33,520 Speaker 5: him at plus two ten man, it's hard to go 2644 02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:39,280 Speaker 5: against Sanhagen and Nirmanga Manov has a very tricky style. 2645 02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:42,400 Speaker 5: I just don't know exactly how good this guy is, 2646 02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:45,160 Speaker 5: So I do know how good Sanhagen is though, and 2647 02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:47,080 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the underdog because. 2648 02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:48,840 Speaker 1: Of it well, just so you know, in the forty 2649 02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:52,880 Speaker 1: eight hours or seventy two hours that expired in the 2650 02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:55,480 Speaker 1: time that Jay sent you, the odds plus two ten 2651 02:04:55,640 --> 02:04:59,320 Speaker 1: is now plus two fifty for Corey Sanhagan on DraftKings Sportsbook. 2652 02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:04,040 Speaker 1: On the other, Lamar Romago Medov, he did get rocked 2653 02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:06,839 Speaker 1: by the short notice UFC newcomer becks out o Amicon 2654 02:05:06,960 --> 02:05:08,840 Speaker 1: back in March, but the way he rallied through that 2655 02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:12,080 Speaker 1: I thought was wicked impressive, said he was concussed, then 2656 02:05:12,120 --> 02:05:16,800 Speaker 1: he coached to a unanimous decision win. And uh, I 2657 02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:19,360 Speaker 1: just think that this is a really unique challenge for 2658 02:05:19,480 --> 02:05:21,720 Speaker 1: him and Corey Sandhagen at the height of motivation, with 2659 02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:24,640 Speaker 1: all this momentum on the cusp of an undisputed title fight, 2660 02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:28,760 Speaker 1: unbelievable fight, title fight could be next for the winner. BP. 2661 02:05:29,880 --> 02:05:32,040 Speaker 1: How convicted are we on either side of this main event? 2662 02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:34,560 Speaker 2: Brother, what a made event and what a dude Corey 2663 02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:35,240 Speaker 2: Sanahagan is. 2664 02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:36,880 Speaker 4: I did not get to see the interview because I 2665 02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:39,000 Speaker 4: was working when you guys interviewed him, but I've seen 2666 02:05:39,040 --> 02:05:40,320 Speaker 4: plenty of interviews with him. 2667 02:05:40,720 --> 02:05:43,680 Speaker 2: He's so self aware, he knows his place. 2668 02:05:44,160 --> 02:05:46,560 Speaker 4: There is that confidence in his ability because he knows 2669 02:05:46,600 --> 02:05:49,360 Speaker 4: what he's doing, but also some sense of like, yeah, 2670 02:05:49,400 --> 02:05:51,080 Speaker 4: I know I'm gonna have to fight this guy, so 2671 02:05:51,200 --> 02:05:54,000 Speaker 4: let's do it. No one's calling out cousin Umar, no 2672 02:05:54,160 --> 02:05:55,800 Speaker 4: one is. No one wants to fight this guy. He's 2673 02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:56,480 Speaker 4: a legit dude. 2674 02:05:56,680 --> 02:05:59,400 Speaker 2: No one wants to fight a Russian with their last 2675 02:05:59,480 --> 02:06:01,200 Speaker 2: name or made up. No one wants to. 2676 02:06:01,640 --> 02:06:02,440 Speaker 1: But he called it. 2677 02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:05,280 Speaker 4: He called it out before, and he's really sharpening his 2678 02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:08,880 Speaker 4: wrestling and physically he's looking phenomenal as well, more so 2679 02:06:09,080 --> 02:06:11,400 Speaker 4: than the past. We've come a long way since he 2680 02:06:11,440 --> 02:06:14,360 Speaker 4: got submitted Biogamain sterling as quickly as he did you know, 2681 02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:19,000 Speaker 4: years ago. Like this is a guy who's explosive, long range, smart, 2682 02:06:19,160 --> 02:06:22,400 Speaker 4: tactical and is learning wrestling and his like you guys said, 2683 02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:23,480 Speaker 4: bringing people. 2684 02:06:23,320 --> 02:06:25,960 Speaker 2: In the train for this. The problem is Umar is 2685 02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:26,600 Speaker 2: a little bit. 2686 02:06:26,520 --> 02:06:28,960 Speaker 4: Different than most of the Kabib guys as where his 2687 02:06:29,120 --> 02:06:31,240 Speaker 4: stand up is really good. I mean he knocked out 2688 02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:35,000 Speaker 4: Harni Bursello's it was scary. There's power there. His kicks 2689 02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:38,360 Speaker 4: are phenomenal, He's got that really fast switch muscle, and 2690 02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:42,720 Speaker 4: his cardio and grappling has held up so far. Mean, 2691 02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:44,800 Speaker 4: this is five rounds, so we're gonna see. And you 2692 02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:47,120 Speaker 4: mentioned he got rocking the last time he was out 2693 02:06:47,160 --> 02:06:49,320 Speaker 4: on he fought the guy in short notice. That was 2694 02:06:49,400 --> 02:06:50,880 Speaker 4: one of three punches that got landed. 2695 02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:51,520 Speaker 2: It just happened. 2696 02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:55,000 Speaker 4: He and Umar landed sixty eight and six takedowns. So 2697 02:06:55,880 --> 02:06:58,800 Speaker 4: the guy dominates, and I want to see, since he 2698 02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:02,800 Speaker 4: always dominates, what happens when he doesn't dominate, because Corey's 2699 02:07:02,800 --> 02:07:04,080 Speaker 4: not gonna let him dominate the whole time. 2700 02:07:04,160 --> 02:07:06,800 Speaker 2: Cory's too good. Corey is a plane. He's gonna get up. 2701 02:07:06,800 --> 02:07:08,520 Speaker 4: If he gets taken down, He's gonna be hard to 2702 02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:10,840 Speaker 4: take Hi down. So there's a lot of questions about this, 2703 02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:13,640 Speaker 4: and I always like to lay money on the main event. 2704 02:07:13,720 --> 02:07:14,440 Speaker 2: My pick is Umar. 2705 02:07:14,520 --> 02:07:17,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Umar because it's hard to bet against 2706 02:07:17,320 --> 02:07:20,240 Speaker 4: the Russians. But I'm rooting for Sanhagen because I think 2707 02:07:20,280 --> 02:07:22,760 Speaker 4: he's put in so much time here and a Cory 2708 02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:27,800 Speaker 4: Sanhagen and if Sean O'Malley gets past Morob but Sean 2709 02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:31,320 Speaker 4: O'Malley fight stand up wise, for me as a stand 2710 02:07:31,400 --> 02:07:33,760 Speaker 4: up guy is something that I can't wait for. 2711 02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:37,000 Speaker 2: But I'm going to go Umar. Unfortunately, I think he 2712 02:07:37,200 --> 02:07:38,560 Speaker 2: just has a little too much. 2713 02:07:40,280 --> 02:07:42,600 Speaker 1: All right, place your bets brought to you by john 2714 02:07:42,640 --> 02:07:44,920 Speaker 1: Adic dot com, where you can still enjoy fifteen percent 2715 02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:47,160 Speaker 1: off all and a comploying podcast and one more Sleep 2716 02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:51,160 Speaker 1: merchandise and Ray Longo Minute and can Flow Wolverine merchandise 2717 02:07:51,400 --> 02:07:55,280 Speaker 1: with promo code UFC three oh four. Twenty percent of 2718 02:07:55,440 --> 02:07:57,880 Speaker 1: my proceeds for the rest of the year will go 2719 02:07:58,160 --> 02:08:02,440 Speaker 1: to an autism charity. I choose it, all right. Petre's 2720 02:08:02,440 --> 02:08:03,000 Speaker 1: been waiting for this. 2721 02:08:03,640 --> 02:08:03,920 Speaker 2: Let's go. 2722 02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:10,600 Speaker 1: You were at minus five twenty six twelve one thousand 2723 02:08:10,680 --> 02:08:13,880 Speaker 1: dollars on Arnold Allen page of four hundred three hundred 2724 02:08:13,920 --> 02:08:17,280 Speaker 1: on Bala Muhammed, at plus one seventy page of five 2725 02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:20,040 Speaker 1: hundred and ten dollars three hundred on tom aspinall by 2726 02:08:20,160 --> 02:08:23,760 Speaker 1: knockout that was minus one seventy five paid you one 2727 02:08:23,840 --> 02:08:26,240 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one dollars and forty three cents. Patty 2728 02:08:26,280 --> 02:08:29,840 Speaker 1: pimblet for two hundred dollars at plus one oh five 2729 02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:32,320 Speaker 1: that page of two ten only lost for BP at 2730 02:08:32,320 --> 02:08:35,080 Speaker 1: two hundred dollars parlay that did include Christian Leroy duncan 2731 02:08:35,400 --> 02:08:39,800 Speaker 1: So for the week, Petrie banks nearly eleven hundred dollars 2732 02:08:39,960 --> 02:08:43,440 Speaker 1: ten ninety one forty three. He's back in the black. 2733 02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:46,200 Speaker 1: Year to date five hundred and sixty five dollars and 2734 02:08:46,360 --> 02:08:50,240 Speaker 1: thirty one centsh Team Florian was at plus eleven forty 2735 02:08:50,360 --> 02:08:53,400 Speaker 1: seventy two. He hits for three hundred on Mohammad Mokaiev 2736 02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:56,400 Speaker 1: that paid two hundred and forty dollars. You gave two 2737 02:08:56,480 --> 02:08:58,200 Speaker 1: hundred back on the under two and a half rounds 2738 02:08:58,240 --> 02:09:00,520 Speaker 1: in that fight, though you look good given the way 2739 02:09:00,600 --> 02:09:02,680 Speaker 1: the week played out and the toe injury to Copper 2740 02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:05,120 Speaker 1: early on, Ken Flow hits for three hundred on Mick 2741 02:09:05,200 --> 02:09:07,400 Speaker 1: Parket at minus one fifty five that paid one ninety 2742 02:09:07,440 --> 02:09:09,920 Speaker 1: three to fifty five. You did lose four hundred dollars 2743 02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:13,240 Speaker 1: on CLD Christian Leroy Duncan, six hundred on King Green, 2744 02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:16,040 Speaker 1: and your two hundred dollars parlay did not cash. So 2745 02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:19,480 Speaker 1: we want these two thousand dollars pay per view weeks 2746 02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:21,480 Speaker 1: to be the big weeks, the big swing weeks. And 2747 02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:25,520 Speaker 1: it was minus nine sixty six forty five for Ken Flow, 2748 02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:29,360 Speaker 1: who's year to date is now plus one seventy four 2749 02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:31,280 Speaker 1: to twenty seven. So, unless I'm mistaken, we have a 2750 02:09:31,360 --> 02:09:34,040 Speaker 1: new world order in Brian Petrie vaults into the lead 2751 02:09:34,440 --> 02:09:37,600 Speaker 1: by three hundred and ninety one dollars and four south. 2752 02:09:37,800 --> 02:09:39,839 Speaker 2: Whoa big week Wise? 2753 02:09:40,520 --> 02:09:43,360 Speaker 1: That is big. Oh man, that's my mathematics. 2754 02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:43,960 Speaker 2: It's good. 2755 02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:47,760 Speaker 4: Hang on a second. Yeah, oh yeah, we're back. Sorry, 2756 02:09:47,800 --> 02:09:49,360 Speaker 4: sorry about that, guys. I would take a quick fuck off. 2757 02:09:50,320 --> 02:09:51,680 Speaker 4: Mathematics are good, Bud Max. 2758 02:09:51,880 --> 02:09:52,560 Speaker 2: I was excited. 2759 02:09:52,640 --> 02:09:55,640 Speaker 4: I used to get exhausted on pay per view nights, 2760 02:09:55,680 --> 02:09:57,400 Speaker 4: right because it's like one in the morning. 2761 02:09:57,480 --> 02:09:59,400 Speaker 2: I ran in here and did my little notes and 2762 02:09:59,520 --> 02:09:59,680 Speaker 2: was like. 2763 02:09:59,640 --> 02:10:00,680 Speaker 1: What do I got? What do I got? 2764 02:10:00,760 --> 02:10:00,800 Speaker 3: It? 2765 02:10:00,920 --> 02:10:04,040 Speaker 2: Tally do not like a girl two in the morning. Excited? 2766 02:10:04,120 --> 02:10:04,960 Speaker 2: You ready for my picks? 2767 02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:07,400 Speaker 1: Johnny, I'm not for this. I'm not. You know why. 2768 02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:12,280 Speaker 1: You know why? Because you have the lead. Oh you 2769 02:10:12,480 --> 02:10:14,800 Speaker 1: want to pick first? I mean, right now, your face 2770 02:10:15,800 --> 02:10:19,000 Speaker 1: the first single box. All right, Brian Petree is going 2771 02:10:19,080 --> 02:10:21,080 Speaker 1: to make his selections first. But as the leader, you 2772 02:10:21,240 --> 02:10:24,800 Speaker 1: do withhold the right to defer. But you're gonna lead 2773 02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:26,240 Speaker 1: a shop and I'll get out of your way. 2774 02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:28,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, because Kenny and I are going to be opposite 2775 02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:31,160 Speaker 4: most of this anyway. And by the way, Kenny, you're 2776 02:10:31,160 --> 02:10:35,240 Speaker 4: struggling with the illness. What a champion here, He's shaking hands. 2777 02:10:35,040 --> 02:10:38,320 Speaker 1: At bitin the podcast in my absence. 2778 02:10:38,360 --> 02:10:44,400 Speaker 4: I mean he's struggling with the tissue and there, uh, 2779 02:10:45,560 --> 02:10:53,160 Speaker 4: six hundred dollars on Devi Figa Figgy Figgie six hundred bucks. 2780 02:10:53,160 --> 02:10:55,200 Speaker 4: I know Kenny disagrees with that. I love it again, 2781 02:10:55,680 --> 02:10:58,520 Speaker 4: love it. Uh, give me two hundred dollars on Brenner 2782 02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:02,000 Speaker 4: plus one thirty. I love that underdog play right there 2783 02:11:02,040 --> 02:11:05,080 Speaker 4: from Brenner. Give me a Zoe men in Field right 2784 02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:08,160 Speaker 4: the man zoh Menifield plus one eight, one hundred and 2785 02:11:08,160 --> 02:11:11,440 Speaker 4: fifty dollars. And then my big coup, my big reveal 2786 02:11:11,680 --> 02:11:15,440 Speaker 4: is Ferguson my sub John took the took the win 2787 02:11:15,600 --> 02:11:16,440 Speaker 4: right on my sales. 2788 02:11:16,800 --> 02:11:18,160 Speaker 2: But that numbers on out yet. 2789 02:11:18,200 --> 02:11:21,320 Speaker 4: But Tony Ferguson buy sub fifty dollars, uh, and that 2790 02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:22,760 Speaker 4: should equal one thousand. 2791 02:11:23,120 --> 02:11:26,120 Speaker 1: Dude. I wasn't trying to. It was just saying, save me. 2792 02:11:26,200 --> 02:11:29,160 Speaker 2: It's so funny. It's your gambler, you know, like you 2793 02:11:29,640 --> 02:11:30,240 Speaker 2: you're right there? 2794 02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Is there a way for us to pare down 2795 02:11:32,320 --> 02:11:34,680 Speaker 1: this wager to fifty dollars? Is that within the rules? 2796 02:11:34,720 --> 02:11:36,959 Speaker 1: But it sounds like you didn't care what I would. 2797 02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:38,200 Speaker 2: Have said about it. 2798 02:11:38,360 --> 02:11:41,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, sure, okay, all right, all right, Kenny Florian. 2799 02:11:42,680 --> 02:11:45,680 Speaker 1: You have been so sharp all year, especially when it 2800 02:11:45,800 --> 02:11:47,240 Speaker 1: comes to the big fights. What do you have for 2801 02:11:47,400 --> 02:11:50,080 Speaker 1: us this weekend with your one thousand dollars? We shall see. 2802 02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:50,840 Speaker 4: Uh. 2803 02:11:51,080 --> 02:11:54,240 Speaker 5: I need some wins here, all right, So I'm going 2804 02:11:54,280 --> 02:11:57,000 Speaker 5: with mur So again. This is gonna be another interesting week. 2805 02:11:57,400 --> 02:12:03,000 Speaker 5: Mrzakan off for three hundred. I'm going go Dinez for 2806 02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:04,000 Speaker 5: four hundred. 2807 02:12:04,680 --> 02:12:05,040 Speaker 3: Wow. 2808 02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, his dude knows checks. 2809 02:12:08,160 --> 02:12:11,560 Speaker 1: Guys, I'm going I definitely don't know that. I'm going 2810 02:12:11,600 --> 02:12:16,440 Speaker 1: with Vera for two hundred, and I'm going with san 2811 02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:20,680 Speaker 1: Haagen for one hundred. Woo. The dogs could be barking 2812 02:12:20,800 --> 02:12:23,560 Speaker 1: for ken Flow this weekend event. San Hagen, you're getting 2813 02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:28,120 Speaker 1: plus two point fifty. I will tweet where that line 2814 02:12:28,240 --> 02:12:30,760 Speaker 1: closes and we might actually do a watch party for 2815 02:12:30,920 --> 02:12:33,800 Speaker 1: this live event coming up at about four to twenty 2816 02:12:34,440 --> 02:12:40,440 Speaker 1: pm Eastern on Saturday course at Brian Petre MMA. Outstanding job, brother, 2817 02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:43,080 Speaker 1: We appreciate the time. Have a great night with your wife. 2818 02:12:43,160 --> 02:12:44,640 Speaker 1: Anything on the way up real. 2819 02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:47,440 Speaker 4: Quick, Tanny, I saw you got some heat about the balouthing. 2820 02:12:47,480 --> 02:12:49,800 Speaker 4: You dressed it a little bit as your friend is 2821 02:12:49,840 --> 02:12:52,280 Speaker 4: a guy who's one hundred percent honest and very critical 2822 02:12:52,400 --> 02:12:55,040 Speaker 4: of broadcast analysis as well, because I have said on 2823 02:12:55,080 --> 02:12:56,560 Speaker 4: a few tweets you were on point. 2824 02:12:56,600 --> 02:12:56,680 Speaker 6: Bro. 2825 02:12:57,160 --> 02:12:59,680 Speaker 4: There is not at all your professional as it gets, 2826 02:13:00,840 --> 02:13:03,120 Speaker 4: because sometimes people can even lean the other way where 2827 02:13:03,160 --> 02:13:05,560 Speaker 4: they're a little too negative. You're a rate down the middle, 2828 02:13:05,680 --> 02:13:08,520 Speaker 4: perfect as always. I would tell you if you weren't so, 2829 02:13:08,640 --> 02:13:10,800 Speaker 4: all those haters can go eat a giant butt. 2830 02:13:10,880 --> 02:13:12,760 Speaker 2: You were fantastic. I'll talk to you guys next week. 2831 02:13:12,960 --> 02:13:16,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy. It's a lot, means a lot. BTP 2832 02:13:16,200 --> 02:13:18,040 Speaker 1: Brian Pechy with us for the main event challenge and 2833 02:13:18,120 --> 02:13:20,760 Speaker 1: place your bets. And I don't pay him to say that, 2834 02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:22,760 Speaker 1: but since he did, Kenflo, I will just say on 2835 02:13:22,880 --> 02:13:27,160 Speaker 1: that in closing, if anybody from Team Edwards had any 2836 02:13:27,240 --> 02:13:29,959 Speaker 1: sort of issue with me, I would be absolutely stunned. 2837 02:13:30,040 --> 02:13:32,840 Speaker 1: When I tweet cry it is to the MMA fans 2838 02:13:32,880 --> 02:13:35,440 Speaker 1: that don't want to acknowledge Balao Muhammad's body of work 2839 02:13:35,520 --> 02:13:39,360 Speaker 1: and work ethic right. So I don't think that anybody 2840 02:13:39,440 --> 02:13:42,080 Speaker 1: on Team Edwards would take any exception to the call. 2841 02:13:42,320 --> 02:13:45,880 Speaker 1: And if Dana White or my boss, Craig Borsori or 2842 02:13:46,080 --> 02:13:49,120 Speaker 1: Zach Candido felt like I called any fight in a 2843 02:13:49,240 --> 02:13:53,040 Speaker 1: one handed way and lacked objectivity. Whether my friend was 2844 02:13:53,160 --> 02:13:55,920 Speaker 1: involved or not, you can be sure that I would 2845 02:13:55,960 --> 02:13:58,920 Speaker 1: have heard from them already, and maybe I'll hear from 2846 02:13:58,920 --> 02:14:00,400 Speaker 1: them today, and if I do, I'll bring that to 2847 02:14:00,480 --> 02:14:02,480 Speaker 1: you guys next week. And I would also say too. 2848 02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:08,880 Speaker 1: You know, when Blaw Muhammad forgettably compared Leon Edwards's tone 2849 02:14:09,120 --> 02:14:12,360 Speaker 1: or twang to you know, maybe somebody who speaks slowly, 2850 02:14:12,440 --> 02:14:15,120 Speaker 1: and he invoked the word autism or autistic, right, it 2851 02:14:15,240 --> 02:14:16,800 Speaker 1: hit me in some kind of way because, as you 2852 02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:19,600 Speaker 1: well know, I spent the bulk of my professional life 2853 02:14:19,680 --> 02:14:25,080 Speaker 1: before sports journalism teaching autistic kids age three through eighteen. 2854 02:14:25,200 --> 02:14:28,120 Speaker 1: I worked as a vocational coordinator, a job coach for 2855 02:14:28,240 --> 02:14:31,480 Speaker 1: autistic kids. I was there as they were bagging groceries, 2856 02:14:31,520 --> 02:14:35,560 Speaker 1: coaching them. I did job interviews with dozens of autistic teenagers. Right, 2857 02:14:35,680 --> 02:14:38,440 Speaker 1: So I went at Balal in a public way. It 2858 02:14:38,560 --> 02:14:40,360 Speaker 1: was just an emoji, right, But I call it the 2859 02:14:40,440 --> 02:14:42,800 Speaker 1: way it is. You know, I've had to publicly go 2860 02:14:42,960 --> 02:14:45,600 Speaker 1: at friends of mine like Michael Bisping and Mark Goddard 2861 02:14:45,640 --> 02:14:47,880 Speaker 1: when I felt that it deserved it. So I'm not 2862 02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:51,200 Speaker 1: always perfect. I'm a flawed human being. Probably a flawed 2863 02:14:51,280 --> 02:14:53,600 Speaker 1: broadcaster in a lot of ways, but I stand by 2864 02:14:53,680 --> 02:14:58,200 Speaker 1: the call of Edwards v. Muhammad two. All right, we 2865 02:14:58,280 --> 02:14:59,760 Speaker 1: got to get on out of here. Thanks to Kenny 2866 02:14:59,760 --> 02:15:01,840 Speaker 1: flour And for playing sick today and carrying the mail 2867 02:15:01,880 --> 02:15:03,720 Speaker 1: as I was unable to host this program due to 2868 02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:06,440 Speaker 1: technical difficulties, thanks to Ray Longo, thanks to Big Ron 2869 02:15:06,480 --> 02:15:09,280 Speaker 1: Pellegrino stepping up in my absence, thanks to Corey sand 2870 02:15:09,320 --> 02:15:11,200 Speaker 1: Hagen joining us off the top of the show. We'll 2871 02:15:11,240 --> 02:15:14,480 Speaker 1: probably have some content midweek with Balab Muhammad once he 2872 02:15:14,560 --> 02:15:16,960 Speaker 1: gets back to Chicago. We'll do an interview with him, 2873 02:15:17,000 --> 02:15:19,720 Speaker 1: and that a potential watch party coming up this weekend 2874 02:15:19,840 --> 02:15:22,840 Speaker 1: as well. Our producer put it all together is Cody Merrow. 2875 02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:25,160 Speaker 1: Don't forget to check out Kenny Florian dot com, Johnnick 2876 02:15:25,200 --> 02:15:28,240 Speaker 1: dot com fifteen percent off your order with promo code 2877 02:15:28,520 --> 02:15:31,120 Speaker 1: UFC three oh four. Thanks to everybody for the support 2878 02:15:31,160 --> 02:15:34,400 Speaker 1: here on this show and in Manchester. We are back 2879 02:15:34,480 --> 02:15:37,520 Speaker 1: midweek with more on UFC. 2880 02:15:37,360 --> 02:15:37,880 Speaker 3: Three oh four. 2881 02:15:37,960 --> 02:15:39,800 Speaker 1: Until then for kem clam John Anna, thank you all 2882 02:15:39,840 --> 02:15:41,320 Speaker 1: for watching, and for those of you that have been 2883 02:15:41,400 --> 02:15:43,800 Speaker 1: there live for the last two hours, you have our 2884 02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:46,320 Speaker 1: ultimate respect. We'll talk to you soon. Feel there. 2885 02:16:02,040 --> 02:16:05,000 Speaker 4: Like you're gonna roll the luck task you the soul 2886 02:16:05,120 --> 02:16:05,680 Speaker 4: to the breast. 2887 02:16:05,880 --> 02:16:07,360 Speaker 1: He's gone, Bread. 2888 02:16:08,680 --> 02:16:15,080 Speaker 2: Gone, bread, lay its sup precious to the mess that 2889 02:16:15,160 --> 02:16:15,760 Speaker 2: you can't. 2890 02:16:15,760 --> 02:16:16,360 Speaker 1: Keep your hands on. 2891 02:16:16,440 --> 02:16:17,880 Speaker 2: The box, the open. 2892 02:16:18,280 --> 02:16:19,400 Speaker 1: He's gone red. 2893 02:16:20,760 --> 02:16:21,840 Speaker 6: He's gone red. 2894 02:16:23,200 --> 02:16:23,720 Speaker 4: He's going