Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me
Speaker 1: Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and
Speaker 1: TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transitioned to
Speaker 1: a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New
Speaker 1: Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Domez.
Speaker 1: I auditioned every rapper from Biggie Smalls to Tupac, and
Speaker 1: I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help
Speaker 1: transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from
Speaker 1: Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Yee from The
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons to name a few. I
Speaker 1: also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel
Speaker 1: I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director,
Speaker 1: I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an
Speaker 1: acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in
Speaker 1: that room. Now I know, I know actors want to
Speaker 1: get the job. I get that, but being remembered by
Speaker 1: a casting director that is powerful. And now it's time
Speaker 1: for meditation of the day. Healing begins where the wound
Speaker 1: was made. Alice Walker, confrontation is healing. Whether you say
Speaker 1: it to the person that has hurt you, or you
Speaker 1: write a letter and burn.
Speaker 2: It, which is my favorite because I'm really dramatic like that.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, do it, don't let it fester in
Speaker 1: your body, in your spirit and your soul.
Speaker 2: Even if you're not ready to confront that person.
Speaker 1: Just write it out, write things down, just get it out.
Speaker 2: If you can go to therapy, go to therapy. Therapy
Speaker 2: is great, but just.
Speaker 1: Do it, because today I will ignowlge is what my
Speaker 1: healing is. Before we get started, I like to remind
Speaker 1: everyone to go to Crackical Network to view seasons one
Speaker 1: and two of my show Inside the Black Box that
Speaker 1: I co host with the great Emmy Award winning Joe Morton.
Speaker 1: Look out for news on season three soon. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore. One of
Speaker 1: the great things about doing this podcast is when you
Speaker 1: meet incredible.
Speaker 2: Dynamic, phenomenal outsteady.
Speaker 1: I need a fisaurus because I want to say so
Speaker 1: much more and I want to welcome you guys, and
Speaker 1: I want you guys to stand up for singer, songwriter,
Speaker 1: producer artists. Winner of the twenty twelve Soul Trained Music
Speaker 1: Award for Independent artists of the year widely idly regard
Speaker 1: it as the king of independent.
Speaker 2: Soul and R and B. Please put your hands together for.
Speaker 3: Eric wrote, thank you, Thank you so much, Tracy. I
Speaker 3: appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I I was crafting something and going through
Speaker 1: all of your bio.
Speaker 2: But I'm very familiar with your music.
Speaker 1: But I just you know, wanted to you know, know,
Speaker 1: so many other things, Like it really was a thirst
Speaker 1: like after I read all of the information first it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I can't find work because I just
Speaker 1: found Let me tell you, I'm so serious, Eric, when
Speaker 1: I say this, I feel so incredibly blessed to have
Speaker 1: the sense of sound, to be able to no, no, no.
Speaker 1: And I know you understand what I'm saying because I
Speaker 1: got quotes. I got Eric Ropus quotes, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4: I'm a droplet.
Speaker 1: I am so grateful to be able to hear your vote,
Speaker 1: to be able to experience the stories and which you
Speaker 1: write and and and literally you.
Speaker 2: Use your words.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for using your words to say something.
Speaker 1: It's not negating those who don't, but I'm just saying
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 2: We have you on the show.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 5: No, I appreciate I often say that I'm I'm one
Speaker 5: who I've dedicated my life to the art of combining words,
Speaker 5: you know, not just the ones that I combine, but
Speaker 5: but you know, listening to Tory Moore, Tony Morrison or
Speaker 5: Wilson or just whatever. When when someone puts something together
Speaker 5: that I haven't envisioned before, I sit up, like, you know,
Speaker 5: because there's a, there's a, there's and and also which
Speaker 5: we get into just the layers, right, it means it
Speaker 5: means one thing right now, say it thirty minutes later,
Speaker 5: it means something different.
Speaker 3: Say it tomorrow means something different. And uh and I
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 5: So for you to say that, I really do appreciate it.
Speaker 5: And I often say, you know, to me, the first
Speaker 5: instrument that all of us use is the art of listening,
Speaker 5: you know. So so yeah, so, I mean I think.
Speaker 1: So powerful for actors to hear that, because that is
Speaker 1: the truth in acting as well. One of the things
Speaker 1: that I wanted to start off because well, first of all,
Speaker 1: my daughter went.
Speaker 6: To ahu, hey h yep, yeah seven seventh mom, But
Speaker 6: I wanted to because this is the thing.
Speaker 1: It's one thing to sing a song, right, but it's
Speaker 1: another thing for a song to engage in you and
Speaker 1: touch your soul, your soul or your spirit where you.
Speaker 2: Want that song to be a part of your marriage. Yes,
Speaker 2: you know you have to me that gift.
Speaker 1: I grew up in the in the late sixties, early seventies,
Speaker 1: Earth Went and Fire, temptations, you know, whispers like that's
Speaker 1: how I grew up. Songs taught me to grow up.
Speaker 1: So and the messages you know, Earth wind and Fire.
Speaker 1: We are people of the mighty, mighty, people.
Speaker 3: Of the school.
Speaker 2: What so you to me embody all of that in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, Thank you so.
Speaker 1: Much, Thanks a lot, because you understand right, you feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Because my generation, my friends, we search for you.
Speaker 1: We put you on and we take out the laptop
Speaker 1: and then we start writing a scene, we start writing
Speaker 1: a short story, we start visually. The music for me
Speaker 1: is an inspiration to start to create. And that's the
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 2: That's the my life.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I appreciate that, and I've been there.
Speaker 5: I've used other muses to help me write or help
Speaker 5: me find my way. So I mean, if I'm if
Speaker 5: I'm adding that to anybody, that's a great compliment.
Speaker 3: So I thank you for it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean I think there's a there's a combination.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I grew up I think the church. My older sister
Speaker 5: was into theater and music, so of course theatre. I'm
Speaker 5: major in musical theater at Howard. So applying all these
Speaker 5: different things, I often say a lot of times that
Speaker 5: I learned more about so at Fine Arts.
Speaker 3: The first floor was theater, the second.
Speaker 5: Floor was like art and design, and the second floor
Speaker 5: and the third floor is music. Wow, my classes were
Speaker 5: first floor and third floor. I would go up and
Speaker 5: down all day and I would tell everybody I learned
Speaker 5: more about music on the first floor in theater classes
Speaker 5: that I learned on the third floor. You learn about
Speaker 5: harmony and melodic structure and time signatures and things of
Speaker 5: that nature. And my vocal culture was up there as well,
Speaker 5: doctor Eickerberger, who was incredible, so breath control and things
Speaker 5: of that nature. First floor is all about emotion and
Speaker 5: character development, you know, and just the power of the word,
Speaker 5: and you know, so different things.
Speaker 3: So I had to fortunb. I would over tell everybody was.
Speaker 5: It was a blessing going from the first floor to
Speaker 5: the third floor to the third flid the first flo
Speaker 5: so I was applying both things all the time, but
Speaker 5: the magic was in those theater classes, those data classes.
Speaker 5: I think a lot of the stuff that I apply
Speaker 5: in my writing and on stage to this day is
Speaker 5: from those classes.
Speaker 3: I mean I.
Speaker 1: Thought, like you know, I was casting, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I was maybe twenty some years in before I started.
Speaker 2: I did a film called New Jersey Drive, Yes.
Speaker 1: And I auditioned everyone from Biggie to Tupac.
Speaker 2: And I was sitting in the session.
Speaker 1: Like the need to understand, like not every character transition.
Speaker 2: That's where I came up with, you know, this idea, maybe.
Speaker 1: I should, I should work with musical artists, athletes and
Speaker 1: hosts who are transitioning to TV and film.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He you know, it just makes such a natural transition.
Speaker 1: And I'm speaking to you because as a casting director.
Speaker 2: Immediately think of these characters for you.
Speaker 1: Right watching you perform and saying, as an artist like
Speaker 1: you are what we talk about in terms of being
Speaker 1: able to take emotions and engage them with an audience
Speaker 1: of the people you don't know. And you've been blessed
Speaker 1: to be in stadiums and arenas where you've seen a
Speaker 1: huge amount of people be emotionally affected by lessons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's universal and relatable. Right, how does that like?
Speaker 1: I work with a lot of musical artists and we're
Speaker 1: music soul child. I work with him O great, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite people. So how does that like? You know,
Speaker 1: as a singer songwriter, how does that feel when you
Speaker 1: see how your words, how you structure and words with
Speaker 1: your words, and it is and affects.
Speaker 2: People because I honestly.
Speaker 1: Feel like it's natural transition for you guys go from
Speaker 1: music to television or film.
Speaker 5: It's so interesting too that you mentioned like a Biggie
Speaker 5: or Tupac, and I think you know their their number
Speaker 5: one instrument also was their imagination, so so to be
Speaker 5: able to expand the stories that that even Tupac can people.
Speaker 5: We just take them those two examples. They made such
Speaker 5: definitive and full and colorful stories in their music.
Speaker 3: Right. You believed every character when they were upset. You
Speaker 3: believe they were.
Speaker 5: Upset, when they they were talking with a level of
Speaker 5: hatred on the bottom and their gut. You believed it.
Speaker 5: So I think a lot of it is just one
Speaker 5: believing it. For me, you know, I'm in an interesting
Speaker 5: place where I really trust the art of like getting
Speaker 5: out of the way of myself, allowing allowing the art
Speaker 5: to show up and and even like mistakes mean different
Speaker 5: for me now wherever before I wanted to be so
Speaker 5: like super flawless and things of that nature, and lessons
Speaker 5: I always tell everybody lessons. The beauty of that was
Speaker 5: when I had the opportunity to record during a pandemic
Speaker 5: the morning I went downstairs to record that song, about
Speaker 5: three o'clock in the morning, I went downstairs, and it's
Speaker 5: the morning of my anniversary, and I think, just during
Speaker 5: a pandemic. It's the morning my anniversary, and I think,
Speaker 5: just the feeling I had as I'm going downstairs, everyone
Speaker 5: finally went to sleep. I'm turning the equipment on. We're
Speaker 5: still not worries, We're still not fears. And it was,
Speaker 5: it was. It was a very unsettling, unsure thing. But hey,
Speaker 5: it's my anniversary, and man, we made it through a
Speaker 5: lot of storms together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. And I think that's just where where
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 5: But if I went to work the day before I
Speaker 5: wrote something different, or two days later I wrote some
Speaker 5: but that's just where my heart was at the time
Speaker 5: I click record. And what I will tell you my
Speaker 5: process in writing now is to figure out who I
Speaker 5: want to be in the song, but the music is
Speaker 5: telling me right, and then I hit record and just
Speaker 5: be it. So so really, the only line I had
Speaker 5: when I like, we take lessons for example, the ad
Speaker 5: was God has a funny way of showing you lessons.
Speaker 5: That's the only line. The rest of it, the rest
Speaker 5: of it is was me just being in character. Now,
Speaker 5: mind you, that doesn't mean I don't make mistakes and
Speaker 5: I'll rewind it. I mean I probably do one hundred
Speaker 5: versions of like freestyling this character before I really start
Speaker 5: really get into it. But the more I define the character,
Speaker 5: the more it removes what doesn't need to be said.
Speaker 3: So only this left is what needs to be said. Right.
Speaker 5: So then when when you know, now we're performing it now,
Speaker 5: you know, singing at weddings all across the border, or
Speaker 5: there's no way I can get off a stage.
Speaker 3: Anybody have to sing the song.
Speaker 5: But for me, I'm in this interesting place now where
Speaker 5: I'm like, but I didn't really create that song.
Speaker 3: I found it. This was in the right place at
Speaker 3: the right time.
Speaker 5: The words already existed before, before for I ever even
Speaker 5: spoke words, someone said, someone used the word gods want
Speaker 5: to use the word lessons someone you know, you know,
Speaker 5: So I'm really just part of the structure of I took.
Speaker 5: I took the glass, the jar of water and the
Speaker 5: glass and I poured it. And then they saw me
Speaker 5: walk through the room holding the glass of water. And
Speaker 5: now I put it on the table, and as I
Speaker 5: as I put it on the table and walk away,
Speaker 5: it's not mine. So every night I'm literally I'm letting
Speaker 5: go of it and watching people drink, right, and when
Speaker 5: they go with it, because so it so at the
Speaker 5: same time as fast as I sing it or whatever.
Speaker 5: Sure we have publishing and copyrights, and I started that,
Speaker 5: but I'm talking bigger, right, So.
Speaker 3: The reward is all the reward.
Speaker 5: I know that it's quenching your thirst, and the beauty
Speaker 5: is all the rewards. I won't be to see how
Speaker 5: much it how much it strengthened your relationship or strengthen
Speaker 5: your faith to you know, go I'm gonna start dating
Speaker 5: again or whatever, like, you know, all those different things
Speaker 5: that we might not be privy to.
Speaker 3: Singing.
Speaker 5: The song extends, the song goes and grows way bigger,
Speaker 5: and and I've been I meet a lot of artists
Speaker 5: who are like sitting on their hands and they're waiting
Speaker 5: for the right time. Do you think that this needs
Speaker 5: to be this? And but I don't want to get
Speaker 5: robs whatever, I'm like, what do you mean, it's not
Speaker 5: yours anyway, it's not yours anyway? Like perfect your craft right,
Speaker 5: and make sure that you're in tune so you're in
Speaker 5: the right place at the right time to to to
Speaker 5: be of service. That's really what it is. And then
Speaker 5: you know, so when someone else is singing along or
Speaker 5: you know, inevitably that that couple, that guy's been his
Speaker 5: arm and around he and then he hugs a little
Speaker 5: tighter when that song come.
Speaker 3: On, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I've I ain't even state when they turn
Speaker 5: to each other singing a song. So you know how
Speaker 5: much it means that they they spend money to night,
Speaker 5: they got dressed, They probably paid money for the parking
Speaker 5: just so they could hear this one song, so that
Speaker 5: they could have that moment.
Speaker 3: That's their moment, right you know.
Speaker 5: So so when I go in the studio now, like
Speaker 5: I go in there tonight, Yeah, I have to not
Speaker 5: walk in going let.
Speaker 3: Me recreate another lessons. It's like, what is here?
Speaker 5: For me today and allow what was what was showing
Speaker 5: up to be able to find it, to put it
Speaker 5: together because there was no pre production or no assumption
Speaker 5: when I made lessons, and when I made it, I
Speaker 5: didn't had no idea how big it was going to be.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 5: It was just another song for me, you know. And
Speaker 5: but but also I have cameras in the in the studio.
Speaker 5: We did something earlier that day at Zoom or something.
Speaker 5: So as I'm working on the song, something told me,
Speaker 5: hit the camera, hit record and sing it down. And
Speaker 5: so all right, the camera wasn't there. I didn't set
Speaker 5: it up two days ago. I didn't set up you know.
Speaker 5: So I had recorded a song I really loved the
Speaker 5: day before that, but for some reason, that camera was
Speaker 5: there that day. I press record that time. I posted
Speaker 5: them far went to bed that night, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 3: We'll go to two.
Speaker 5: Thousand comments that morning. So I was like, wow, wow,
Speaker 5: So it's it's really about listening in tune, like being
Speaker 5: in tune with like we should record, but no, don't
Speaker 5: don't go. I mean I shouldn't record this. It's like, right,
Speaker 5: really trust the gravitational pull, the artist, gravitational pull that
Speaker 5: that is pulling you because once again, you're you're the vessel.
Speaker 3: Right right, You're.
Speaker 5: And I've been you know, I go through this a
Speaker 5: lot of things, like just like you, just if you
Speaker 5: watching nature right, like the animals and the plants around
Speaker 5: you are trusting this gravitational poll because they don't have assumption,
Speaker 5: they don't have choice, right, they don't have insecurities or
Speaker 5: doubt any of these things that talk us out of
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna do that. So why not just trust
Speaker 5: the gravitational pull that is happening artistically and not let
Speaker 5: it not, Let not let yourself talk you out of
Speaker 5: the idea or the feeling or the direction or whatever,
Speaker 5: you know, because like I said, even if I make
Speaker 5: a mistake on stage, then that might turn to a
Speaker 5: left turn musically, and then five minutes later we're somewhere beautiful,
Speaker 5: right you know. So you know, like we ever have
Speaker 5: like a lot of let's say the bass player can't
Speaker 5: make the show, so we have a sub bass player
Speaker 5: to come in, and a lot of times they'll be nervous,
Speaker 5: and I'll tell them if you mess up, mess up loud,
Speaker 5: don't get.
Speaker 3: Up here, timid. I want you, I want you to
Speaker 3: I want you to dig in.
Speaker 5: You mess up, mess up like man, like, No, I'm
Speaker 5: not gonna turn around and be curtseying like what you're doing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: Wow, I want you into it. So take a chance.
Speaker 5: If you take a chance and it's wrong, then we're
Speaker 5: gonna be wrong together, you know, and we're gonna find
Speaker 5: where we're gonna be at. Well, I'll tell you that
Speaker 5: person sitting in the back of the room watching the
Speaker 5: show is not gonna be like, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know what that bass player was doing, you know, right.
Speaker 5: Right, So there's a better chance that man that basebok
Speaker 5: was into it. Now, yeah, something that might do something.
Speaker 5: So live, man, live and figured out.
Speaker 1: I love your disposition, your attitude, Like it's so free
Speaker 1: and inspiring to these actors. Because one of the things
Speaker 1: that I feel i'm as a casting director. I start
Speaker 1: out when the script is white pages. I go from
Speaker 1: white pages to being on a premiere you know, carpet,
Speaker 1: And so there's a certain amount of patience, visionary, faith, resilience,
Speaker 1: stamina that you need to have in that journey, each
Speaker 1: of those journeys, right, especially when there's a film that
Speaker 1: I love and I'm so you know, excited to be
Speaker 1: a part of it.
Speaker 2: And patience is the thing that's lacking. Patience, Like it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I love.
Speaker 1: That's why lessons, because you guys, you have to If
Speaker 1: you haven't heard lessons, you have to hear lessons. You
Speaker 1: have to, you know, get lessons on your phone, because
Speaker 1: lessons feel so much better than mistake. I have learned
Speaker 1: a lesson. I made a mistake. Mistake feels so self punishing,
Speaker 1: but lessons is like it's a brand new day, like
Speaker 1: and you stay present and open, And that is what
Speaker 1: my company is, the spirited Actor.
Speaker 2: I just want people to relax.
Speaker 1: I just want people to just trust and know that there,
Speaker 1: whatever your religious beliefs, there's a bigger picture out there
Speaker 1: that you can't even conceive.
Speaker 5: Yet not supposed to conceive it until you're there, and
Speaker 5: hopefully you're fortunate enough and aware enough to recognize it
Speaker 5: when you're there, right right, Like recognize that this is
Speaker 5: what you prayed for. You know, it took a lot
Speaker 5: of work to get there, or it's taking a lot
Speaker 5: of work to stay there. This is what you prayed for,
Speaker 5: this is what you worked for. So lessons really, you know,
Speaker 5: it really represents you know, I ran into a lot
Speaker 5: of brick walls in my life, right, and as much
Speaker 5: as I as much as they hurt, I survived them,
Speaker 5: and they made me better. And I would not be
Speaker 5: here right now without those brick walls.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have the kids I have.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have the wife I have in the career
Speaker 5: I have without the setbacks, without the failures and all
Speaker 5: those things that so you need them. The problem is
Speaker 5: once again that you when you run into a figurative
Speaker 5: brick wall. And I don't want to speak for the
Speaker 5: major things like cancer and things like that. I can't
Speaker 5: speak for that, right, that's beyond beyond my knowledge of wisdom.
Speaker 5: But like just the basic levels of setbacks, the only
Speaker 5: person stopping you is you for dusting yourself off and
Speaker 5: embarrassingly or pridefully or egotistically continuing, right, And when you
Speaker 5: look at a Denzel, when you look at Holly Berry,
Speaker 5: or you look at Aretha Franklin, it's the audacity to continue, during, during,
Speaker 5: and after the failure. You know so, and what happens
Speaker 5: is now, of course I'm fifty years old. Now I'm
Speaker 5: looking back right, right, And then maybe I didn't need
Speaker 5: to know this in my twenties and thirties.
Speaker 3: But the failures help.
Speaker 2: You, you know, I mean.
Speaker 5: The failures, the failures help you. It doesn't help. It
Speaker 5: doesn't seem like it helps you in the moment. It's
Speaker 5: staying in the moment. But but for me, I'm constantly
Speaker 5: pulling as a writer, I'm pulling from everywhere. I'm pulling
Speaker 5: from fourth grade heartbreaks, you know what I mean, things
Speaker 5: that nature. So you pull from these moments, you pull
Speaker 5: from the family members you lose, you pull from all
Speaker 5: of that, and it adds depth and layers to even
Speaker 5: four little words, five five phrases, you know, things of
Speaker 5: that nature. It puts it puts so much weight in there,
Speaker 5: and that's how you get there, you know. And that's
Speaker 5: that's living, that's life in general, you know. So that's
Speaker 5: the part of just really trying to trust. I think,
Speaker 5: listen what we said listen listening number one, Patience and trusting,
Speaker 5: and they're all they all like they're like first cousins
Speaker 5: of all, you know. And and so I'm one who
Speaker 5: I really try to listen as much as possible. And
Speaker 5: I believe, I believe I'm patient. But trust, trust is
Speaker 5: like it's really up there. It's a high priority for me.
Speaker 5: I gotta trust myself first of all, because I think
Speaker 5: a lot of times, well, like I said, well, we'll
Speaker 5: chicken out or we won't take that chance. So we
Speaker 5: won't put ourselves in a position because we don't trust ourselves,
Speaker 5: we don't trust it right. And I've been through enough
Speaker 5: now to know that I'll be okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be okay.
Speaker 5: And and another part, so you know, we make a
Speaker 5: song up every night at a show. When we do
Speaker 5: a show, we'll make something up from scratch. And I
Speaker 5: always tell everybody that's it's worth the risk, like it
Speaker 5: could possibly not work, but it's worth the risk because
Speaker 5: if it works, it's magical. It's like a timeless I'm
Speaker 5: twenty years from now. A guy will come up and go, man,
Speaker 5: I was at this show in Detroit. He made a
Speaker 5: song about toenail clippings. I you know, and how did
Speaker 5: you How do you still remember that? You know, he
Speaker 5: couldn't tell you what outfit I had on or what
Speaker 5: songs we sang that night, but he remembers that because
Speaker 5: we took a chance. You know, we took So I'm
Speaker 5: all for it. Man, Let's figure it out. Let's find
Speaker 5: what's there, you know, and let's see if it works.
Speaker 5: If it doesn't work, heat, but.
Speaker 3: He leaves you.
Speaker 1: And that's what I say to actors. You have to
Speaker 1: you have to take a risk. You can't be safe.
Speaker 1: You have to you have to raise stakes and trust yourself.
Speaker 1: And I see visually when a challenge comes, or a
Speaker 1: hurdle or an obstacle, I see this mirror falling in
Speaker 1: front of me and my reflection and knowing who I am,
Speaker 1: that I can get through this because in my lifetime
Speaker 1: I have dealt with the heavy.
Speaker 2: Things, you know. And so the fact.
Speaker 1: That my son, after he got hit back far twelve
Speaker 1: years ago in November, traumatic brain injury is a live, speaking, walking,
Speaker 1: talking working was on my show, is beyond a miracle,
Speaker 1: beyond especially you know when I was by myself there, champion, No,
Speaker 1: he's going to be fine. The doctor told me that
Speaker 1: I was too optimistic, too positive, and I needed to
Speaker 1: get a grip on reality. And I said, whose reality?
Speaker 1: Yours are mine. I'm taking my son home. And I
Speaker 1: took him home and he's you know, you would never know,
Speaker 1: but I feel like, you know, like and I booked
Speaker 1: mark this experience because I said, Tracy you don't see
Speaker 1: it now, but something amazing, beautiful.
Speaker 2: Outstanding is going to come out of this experience.
Speaker 1: Right And looking back now almost twelve years ago, you know.
Speaker 2: Knowing that what got me through two things.
Speaker 1: God doesn't bring us here to leave us and God
Speaker 1: doesn't give us more than we can handle. That made
Speaker 1: me every day wake up so proudful, prideful to know
Speaker 1: that God was like, Tracy, you got this, You're good,
Speaker 1: you got I know, Tracy, I know, I know, but
Speaker 1: you've got this, Tracy in the end, just hold out,
Speaker 1: wait till the story for right. So now I know
Speaker 1: that nothing is impossible. I've seen those turned to yes's.
Speaker 1: And when you fall into your knees and beg God
Speaker 1: and made promises and compromise and all those things and
Speaker 1: God did it, there's no reason to fall on your
Speaker 1: knees anymore.
Speaker 2: No no reason. So that's where my life is.
Speaker 3: I want to applaud you just from being an incredible mother.
Speaker 3: First some oh thank you.
Speaker 5: And you know what's so interesting to see the doctor
Speaker 5: who's telling you that you're like you should limit your
Speaker 5: faith technically is what he was saying, right, Yes, you're
Speaker 5: not being realistic. And it's like but first of all,
Speaker 5: we come from places of creativity. I walk in that
Speaker 5: room with nothing and I leave with something. Right, So
Speaker 5: it's like we so you're by the book of this
Speaker 5: is how we work, this is how we fixed.
Speaker 3: This is the timeline we have.
Speaker 5: And it's like, but there's other channels to get to
Speaker 5: there's a brain injury here, but there's other channels to
Speaker 5: get in here, there's other channels to connect. And it's
Speaker 5: clearly that it was a level of creativity that was
Speaker 5: used to heal your son. Right, I'm not saying that
Speaker 5: once again beyond my pay grade of I don't know
Speaker 5: those things. But yet that's the part of faith. That's
Speaker 5: the part where I often say my proof that God
Speaker 5: is really songwriting, my proof by my number one when
Speaker 5: when you hear the pastor and say, and then God
Speaker 5: told me right now, I can't speak for how God
Speaker 5: told them, but I've sat in this studio back here,
Speaker 5: and God has told me things like literally, I'm writing
Speaker 5: stuff beyond my wisdom. I'm writing stuff beyond my knowledge.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at a piece of paper going what did
Speaker 5: that mean? For only for me to find the answer
Speaker 5: six months later. Placing things in my life lyrically to
Speaker 5: help me get through what's about to occur that's beyond
Speaker 5: my knowledge. So there's at no point should should it
Speaker 5: not be faith, should it not be creativity? In all things, right,
Speaker 5: doctor has to be creative, and I'm sure plenty of
Speaker 5: doctors are creative, but in dance, in politics, in real
Speaker 5: estate and doing your taxes, like, there's like have faith
Speaker 5: and be creative. So even for the actors, when you
Speaker 5: get this script, trust that there's something more. Even if
Speaker 5: it's just three lines, they're find what's under those lines, right,
Speaker 5: find what connects to you. Okay, I'm thirty three years old.
Speaker 5: Look at it as a fifteen year old, and look
Speaker 5: at a five year old. Look at it, twenty five
Speaker 5: year old. Look at us as if I was married,
Speaker 5: look at it, look at it, look at it as
Speaker 5: if I just lost my mom. And each you say
Speaker 5: all these things, it's gonna it's like you're just shaking
Speaker 5: it and looking at it again, like and something's gonna
Speaker 5: unlock in it. And what's amazing is when you say it,
Speaker 5: that word but until then means different, and you will
Speaker 5: have more weight to it because you added this texture
Speaker 5: that once again, faith and creativity of like a normal
Speaker 5: English teacher holds it and goes, Okay, this is five lines.
Speaker 5: This is how you correctly politically say this the right way.
Speaker 5: And it's like, no, no, I'm gonna figure out way
Speaker 5: to say it differently, but I'm gonna use the same
Speaker 5: words you use. The way I'm gonna use it differently
Speaker 5: is I'm gonna add. I'm gonna add my sorrow and
Speaker 5: my heart and my insecurity, I'm gonna add my faith.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna ad all these different things, and it's gonna
Speaker 5: sound different. James Earl Jones made things sound different, not
Speaker 5: just because not just because his voice was low right right,
Speaker 5: was a history, a texture.
Speaker 3: There was so many layers.
Speaker 5: He added, Yes, if you actually just paid attention, you'll
Speaker 5: go it will just give you chills. Because that the
Speaker 5: word blue meant something different to him when he said it,
Speaker 5: you know, so so it's like, uh, you know, it's
Speaker 5: it's that's the magic of it, right, that's the magic.
Speaker 5: If you decide to apply, you'll unlock things that other
Speaker 5: people thought could not be unlocked.
Speaker 3: And you unlocked something. And like your son who watched
Speaker 3: think of this, watched you for years. He gets in
Speaker 3: this horrific accident and now he has to relearn certain things.
Speaker 3: But he watched you figure those things out. He's watched
Speaker 3: you take a blank canvas and paint it, you know.
Speaker 5: So it's like there's a certain way, and I might
Speaker 5: lean on therapy and lean on rehabbing different things and
Speaker 5: all that. Sure you should do all that, but at
Speaker 5: the same time, don't don't forget to move towards creativity
Speaker 5: and faith and unapologetically try different things that means something
Speaker 5: to you today.
Speaker 3: You know it means something to you today. So that's great.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's well, it's inspiring.
Speaker 5: Hearing about your hearing about your son is I think boys,
Speaker 5: and you know, I'm worried sick about them all the time,
Speaker 5: I know, but I know they're going to be all right.
Speaker 1: That's what I say. That's how I'm able to let
Speaker 1: him go outside because it took.
Speaker 2: Me a minute. You know, it took a minute.
Speaker 1: Eric Robison, the interview went by, and I am so
Speaker 1: sad that this has been one of the most amazing interviews.
Speaker 1: He is so much like to be able to just
Speaker 1: let you know, like I know, your fans talk to you,
Speaker 1: and people DM and tell you and this and you know,
Speaker 1: but really, just you want to know.
Speaker 2: A way one person the way you change their lives.
Speaker 1: You change their lives by listening to your music and
Speaker 1: knowing that this is only temporary. Things are going to
Speaker 1: get better and life is good right now. Man, there's
Speaker 1: something in life right now that's good. So I applaud
Speaker 1: you and thank you so much for.
Speaker 3: Thank you for me something. There's something in life that's
Speaker 3: good right now. I love that. Yeah, thank you for that.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
Speaker 5: That's so that's the word of today. There's something in
Speaker 5: life that's good for me right now.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 2: So that's why I give to you.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to bring on el Salathan, who you know,
Speaker 1: and she's going to introduce the two actors.
Speaker 2: That have questions for you.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes you're I'm not even going to say anything,
Speaker 4: but what everything you said, mister Robson.
Speaker 3: Thank you so real quick.
Speaker 5: Just so you know, back in back in my Howardays,
Speaker 5: I could look out my window across the street into
Speaker 5: Elsa's apartment. Oh yeah, she was cooking. Hello, yep, we
Speaker 5: could call. I could call and look at her. Hey,
Speaker 5: what you cooking? I'm coming from coming over? Yeah, literally,
Speaker 5: I mean we were the same height to say, to
Speaker 5: say it just like.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say regular apartments.
Speaker 3: And it wasn't like we were close. It wasn't like
Speaker 3: my window was like right there. It was. It was
Speaker 3: a distance, but it was like, but we were I mean,
Speaker 3: if I looked directly out, it was she was directly there. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And uh, and it was always it was just always fun.
Speaker 5: It was like what you're doing. I know what you're
Speaker 5: doing because I can.
Speaker 2: See good line.
Speaker 3: I'm coming on against of that food. I see you cook.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry here, that's okay.
Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: Today we have two of our spirited actors. We have
Speaker 4: mister Mitchell Gase. Welcome back, Mitchell, you can come on camera.
Speaker 4: And we have mister Mark Boutier. Welcome back. Mark, you
Speaker 4: can come on camera as well.
Speaker 3: And James.
Speaker 4: I know right, Mitchell, what's your question?
Speaker 7: You at first, oh, well, thank you, pleasure me and
Speaker 7: you mister Robinson and.
Speaker 8: Tracy has been a long time. It is you as well.
Speaker 7: My question. You said so much and as you were
Speaker 7: speaking a question popping into my mind. You talked about
Speaker 7: creativity and that force of creativity and Hebrew they say,
Speaker 7: did the UK that life giving force. And you see
Speaker 7: a lot of times with musicians and actors and composers
Speaker 7: and things like that creating from that particular place. But
Speaker 7: where there's good, there's evil, you know, So do you
Speaker 7: ever get tempted to create from.
Speaker 8: That other side?
Speaker 7: We hear we hear about actors and musicians going somewhere
Speaker 7: to create something that may be like outside of their normal,
Speaker 7: outside of their realm. Do you do you ever see
Speaker 7: that as a temptation to create from that side or
Speaker 7: what are your thoughts on people who create from that
Speaker 7: I guess that altered ego that some people may say
Speaker 7: that they have to create something that may be outside
Speaker 7: of their their norm.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's the I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't believe in writer's block because I think there's
Speaker 5: always something right. So if my good side, if I
Speaker 5: don't find them there, then then I caut my bad side.
Speaker 5: Right now, I will tell you, you know, if you
Speaker 5: like horror movies or if you ever listen to Nina
Speaker 5: Simone has a song called Pirate Jenny, and it's just
Speaker 5: a brilliant song. As an actor, you should listen to
Speaker 5: this song. And it's about this lady. She's a maid
Speaker 5: on this island and she's cleaning, cleaning a room. But
Speaker 5: yet while she's cleaning the room and like emptying and
Speaker 5: washing the buckets and stuff like that, and people are
Speaker 5: just more out the way made right, she's counting all
Speaker 5: the houses and everything. And then one night she leaves
Speaker 5: her light on and then the pirates bomb the island
Speaker 5: and they flattened the entire island except for the building
Speaker 5: that her light is on. Right, So then the pirates
Speaker 5: come in in a pillage and destroy everything. And then
Speaker 5: here comes the little maid out with her bucket, and
Speaker 5: all the pirates turn to her and you realize that
Speaker 5: she's the leader of this entire pirate organization, and they go,
Speaker 5: we've captured all them, do we kill them now or later?
Speaker 3: And then she goes now.
Speaker 5: And it's the most impactful acting job you ever see
Speaker 5: Nina someone do right while she's playing piano in this
Speaker 5: whole thing, And it's this beautiful story that the same
Speaker 5: way if you watch Hannibal, you side with the villain
Speaker 5: right like you're gonna side from what angle the story
Speaker 5: is told. What I will tell you is that it's
Speaker 5: important that if you are writing Pirate Jenny, that you
Speaker 5: leave pirate Jenny in the in the in the book,
Speaker 5: or the all on the stage, and find and find
Speaker 5: what you need to do to be able to disconnect,
Speaker 5: because I will tell you. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 5: sit down here and I write fairy tales all day. Right,
Speaker 5: So like in this very moment, my kids will be
Speaker 5: come off the bus at three thirty, So do I
Speaker 5: look at it this way? I don't know if your
Speaker 5: father yet or anything of that nature, but what I
Speaker 5: will tell you is, so this session is one session,
Speaker 5: but my kids on the bus, they have their own
Speaker 5: session going on, right, So I have to let go
Speaker 5: of whatever I'm doing at three point thirty in that
Speaker 5: room so that I can receive them in the session
Speaker 5: they're in when they get off that bus.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: So it is just as detrimental writing a beautiful love
Speaker 5: song and staying in that love song while my wife's
Speaker 5: trying to talk to me, or all my kids are
Speaker 5: trying to talk to me. So there's a point of going,
Speaker 5: I'm completely connected to the process of making this song,
Speaker 5: how evil, how beautiful, whatever. If you got to play
Speaker 5: a villain, go there, pull on every aspect you need
Speaker 5: to pull on to be that villain. To darken your
Speaker 5: life to be it, and then when they say seen,
Speaker 5: you detach from it, and then you realize, what's the
Speaker 5: next character? I got to be for home, for the
Speaker 5: next place, right, And the problem is a lot of
Speaker 5: times we get so connected that we'll pull that work
Speaker 5: into the next thing, and I think that's detrimental. No
Speaker 5: matter what the subject matter is, I think art is art.
Speaker 5: So I had this interesting conversation recently. I'm sure it
Speaker 5: might be her like Sexy Red, right, So I'm not
Speaker 5: sitting here saying I'm playing Sexy Red. What I'm telling
Speaker 5: you is that she has every right and her character
Speaker 5: is probably more developed than most female rappers. She might
Speaker 5: be saying something that's detrimental and diabolical to black women.
Speaker 5: My most important thing is that that shouldn't be played
Speaker 5: for little girls, but to older women. It's a level
Speaker 5: of entertainment. It might make you laugh, and whether you
Speaker 5: agree with her or not, it's purposeful for what it is.
Speaker 5: It's art, it's created and it's meant to you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. Because someone might say the same thing
Speaker 5: about Friday the thirteenth of a Nightmare on Elm Street
Speaker 5: or anything of that nature.
Speaker 3: But at the end of it. It's art, it's someone's
Speaker 3: getting something out of it.
Speaker 5: You just have to be able to detach from it,
Speaker 5: you know, and realize what's the next session you're going into.
Speaker 5: Because even lessons or anything of that nature, I follow
Speaker 5: this thing called process or a product. I learn it
Speaker 5: through theater life changes. I've heard about twenty years ago.
Speaker 5: It's probably that phrase has changed my life to where
Speaker 5: we were talking about the song lessons I did that
Speaker 5: was really really popular. But when I go into studio,
Speaker 5: I can't bring lessons in there. I can't go is
Speaker 5: this song gonna be a successful? Let I'll never get
Speaker 5: the next song done right. So I have to focus
Speaker 5: on the process of what's here and not the product
Speaker 5: of what it may become or what happened before the
Speaker 5: process of what I'm in. And then when that's over,
Speaker 5: like go of that, and now I'm being the process
Speaker 5: of the father when my kids walk in, on the
Speaker 5: process of a husband, when my wife walks in. But
Speaker 5: I worked on letting the last thing go. But whatever
Speaker 5: that is, I mean, commit to it. If it's dark,
Speaker 5: commit to it, but know that there's when I see
Speaker 5: other people who have committed too much, Like what's my
Speaker 5: man that played the joke girl.
Speaker 3: This, this, this is Keith Ledger. This, there's a there's additional.
Speaker 5: Things that are added in there that that I don't
Speaker 5: think always it's not just as way to It's just
Speaker 5: it's not just the character joker that darkened everything down
Speaker 5: to the point where he you know, found himself in
Speaker 5: a life of darkness. It's not just it was, you know,
Speaker 5: additional things as well that I think comes down the choice.
Speaker 1: Great, Yeah, okay, thank you, beautiful question and great answer.
Speaker 4: All right, Elsa, thank you, and Mark, what is your question, sir?
Speaker 9: First of all, thank you mister Robinson beautiful. I was
Speaker 9: listening to your song lessons while you were talking on
Speaker 9: the background, welcome and listen to all your videos. But
Speaker 9: my question is I saw you did a freestyle for
Speaker 9: iconic singer Smokey Robinson.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 8: How did that feel.
Speaker 9: Doing that performance where you're nervous because usually when people
Speaker 9: do freestyle, you know, you have to have a level
Speaker 9: of improv And I didn't know that you had a
Speaker 9: background of acting until I was listening to your interviews.
Speaker 9: So did he use the acting in your freestyle when
Speaker 9: you were singing to iconic collegend like Smoky yes.
Speaker 5: So, first of all, Smokey Robinson has given us so
Speaker 5: much and I was fortunate to to honor him at
Speaker 5: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and it's a
Speaker 5: group of us and literally they said that we would
Speaker 5: have a little bit of like we would have like
Speaker 5: a minute in like thirty seconds to play around with.
Speaker 5: Because I was getting on staves with Robert Glasper, the
Speaker 5: musician I've shared the stage with numerous times. We didn't
Speaker 5: rehearse anything, we didn't practice it. I had no idea
Speaker 5: what I was going to say, and really he had
Speaker 5: no idea what he was going to play. So it's
Speaker 5: really trusting. But it's but it's if you give me
Speaker 5: the time, mind you. If they said you have no
Speaker 5: time sing your main song and it get out the way,
Speaker 5: then so be it.
Speaker 3: But luckily they said there's probably like a minute and
Speaker 3: a half window.
Speaker 5: Me and rob lake each other like, so so why
Speaker 5: not try the worst thing could that it won't work.
Speaker 5: I embarrass myself in front of Smoking Robinson. But yet
Speaker 5: if it does work, you know. And at the same time,
Speaker 5: my parents were huge smoke Robinson fans, So guess what
Speaker 5: I brought my parents?
Speaker 3: I only only used what was there?
Speaker 5: My mom loves Smokey Robinson, she played them all the time.
Speaker 3: So that's the first line I said.
Speaker 5: I just said what was obviously there, right, you know,
Speaker 5: with both fair skins, say that that was the funny
Speaker 5: thing we put in light skin and style or whatever
Speaker 5: and things like that, and that was a little funny joke
Speaker 5: or whatever.
Speaker 3: But I just use the main things. Like, you know,
Speaker 3: if you go.
Speaker 5: To my family reunion, half my uncles looked like Smokey Robinson,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like, I just the basic
Speaker 5: thing was I was doing something that I'm a hip
Speaker 5: hop kid man. I grew up banging on the car,
Speaker 5: the cafeteria table, you know, and freestyling. And then when
Speaker 5: we get in the van and we're driving to the show,
Speaker 5: me and the band are freestyle on the whole way there,
Speaker 5: that to some J Dilla beat. Then during soundcheck we're
Speaker 5: freestyl and during soundcheck and we're talking about how we
Speaker 5: hungry and we bored or whatever it is that and
Speaker 5: then the show starts. Then we go, okay, let's turn
Speaker 5: that part off. Why It's like it's part of my DNA,
Speaker 5: It's part of my fabric. So I'm saying that I'm
Speaker 5: not the only one. I might be the only one
Speaker 5: who in that moment is like, I'll try it, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. But I've also like worked on
Speaker 5: I mean, I've really worked on making sure like I
Speaker 5: hammered in how to make things rhyme. I've written, you know,
Speaker 5: so many songs. You know, I'm in a I compare
Speaker 5: it to a person that walks the tightrope, and it's
Speaker 5: like we look at it, like, my god, they fall,
Speaker 5: they're gonna die, but they've taken naps, they ate lunch
Speaker 5: on that rope. They found a comfort in that discomfort.
Speaker 5: And as actors, every time you get on stage, find
Speaker 5: comfort in that discomfort. If you're nervous, use it. You know,
Speaker 5: every aspect of it is part of the craft. It's
Speaker 5: not I got a cold. I'm never gonna I just
Speaker 5: told my the other day and literally I did.
Speaker 3: Uh. We had shows last week and I was sick
Speaker 3: as a dog.
Speaker 5: I'm never gonna get on stage and go ladies, gentlemen,
Speaker 5: I'm sick, but we're gonna get through this. You're gonna
Speaker 5: see me coughing, You'll see me sniffleing, You'll see me
Speaker 5: blow my nose between songs and I'm being character. You
Speaker 5: might even hear me struggling to get these notes or whatever.
Speaker 5: And what some of the back is gonna say, Man,
Speaker 5: I think he got a cold, but he is giving it.
Speaker 5: They might enjoy the show more because I've used the
Speaker 5: sickness as part of the as part of the equipment
Speaker 5: that I'm using, you know what I mean. So it
Speaker 5: was just a great opportunity to reward somebody who has
Speaker 5: like been such a soundtrack for me, and so I
Speaker 5: was like, let's take the chance, and it worked out.
Speaker 3: It was cool.
Speaker 2: Excellent, man, excellent.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you Elsa, Thank you Mitchell and Mark eminem A.
Speaker 3: Thank you, gentlemen. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Well, we're going to sit tight, Eric, because when we
Speaker 1: come back with Class and Session, these two thespians are
Speaker 1: going to do some work for you, yeap, Marka, Mitchell,
Speaker 1: So stay tuned, sit back when we come back on
Speaker 1: the Spirited Actor Podcast with Me Tracy Moore, and you're
Speaker 1: still blessed to have Eric Robinson with us. It's going
Speaker 1: to be a pleasure see you in a minute. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to the Spirited Actor Podcast with Me. Tracy Moore,
Speaker 1: and we are still blessed. We are so grateful, and
Speaker 1: as Bruce just said a few minutes ago, it's been
Speaker 1: spiritual here. I'm going to levitate after this interview. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, mister Eric Robinson is still with us, ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen. I am so happy Elsa's here. So we're
Speaker 1: going to go right into class in session for you, Eric.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, you're going to enjoy this one. Eric. Today's
Speaker 4: classroom session feature mister Mitchell Guayse Welcome back, Mitchell, and
Speaker 4: mister Mark Gutier. Welcome back Mark. And today's scene is
Speaker 4: pressure Burst Pipes, written by a page turner. Interior Ronald's
Speaker 4: car Day. Ronald, with a stern expression, pulls up to
Speaker 4: his best friend's girlfriend's driveway. Eddie standing outside with a
Speaker 4: suitcase and several boxes filled with his belongings. Put his
Speaker 4: things in the trunk and hops in the passenger seat.
Speaker 8: Did you just break up with Samantha? I had to
Speaker 8: do it wrong.
Speaker 9: I just couldn't see myself being a fine to her kids.
Speaker 9: They wouldn't have been fair to anyone involved. And it
Speaker 9: took you a whole year to figure that out. You
Speaker 9: not only heard her. But those kids, they look up
Speaker 9: to you like a dad.
Speaker 8: Eddie.
Speaker 3: No, I know I.
Speaker 9: Never met for any of this to happen. It's just
Speaker 9: it's complicated.
Speaker 4: Ronald pulls the car off the road and comes to
Speaker 4: complete stop. He hits the hazard lights and puts the
Speaker 4: car in part. He takes a deep breath and looks
Speaker 4: at Eddie.
Speaker 7: Complicated, Eddie, you knew she had kids. You didn't think
Speaker 7: they'd latch on you. They don't understand adult problems. They
Speaker 7: just know you were there and now you're gone.
Speaker 8: Never wanted hurt anyone, especially those kids.
Speaker 9: She just kept pressing me for marriage, and that's a
Speaker 9: lot of responsibility.
Speaker 4: She backed me into a wall. Ronald's stamps off as
Speaker 4: slightly as he's hearing Eddie's reasoning.
Speaker 7: Look, Eddie, I understand you had to do what was
Speaker 7: right for you and pressure bust pipes for sure, But
Speaker 7: let me ask you this, you still love her?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 8: Look at it from this point of view.
Speaker 7: The girl's father didn't marry, and she'll probably think she'll
Speaker 7: never be married with having two small children.
Speaker 8: Then here comes this great catch, and her girls adore you.
Speaker 4: Eddie. Pond is what Ronald just told them.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I never thought about it like that.
Speaker 8: She doesn't want your money, she needs your el's love, leadership,
Speaker 8: and loyalty.
Speaker 9: Then what I'm gonna do about her being aggressive about marriage? Yeah,
Speaker 9: to be honest, it takes a lot longer than a
Speaker 9: year to see if she's the one before I take
Speaker 9: the responsibility for someone else's kids.
Speaker 7: I think that's fair, and you should tell her just that.
Speaker 7: If she continues to be aggressive, then do what you must.
Speaker 8: So what are we doing? Take me back my things
Speaker 8: in that card?
Speaker 3: Just in case?
Speaker 8: I think that's a good idea.
Speaker 4: Ronald turns off the hazard likes and looks in the
Speaker 4: side of your mirror to ensure it's clear before making
Speaker 4: a U turn to head back to Samantha's house.
Speaker 3: Scene read out you guys, phenomenal, phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, Eric, you can give them feedback, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to give them.
Speaker 2: I want to give this time to you.
Speaker 3: Let me just applaud you.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know so, I'm tempted to just not
Speaker 5: have anything to say right like I like so, I
Speaker 5: was for years I was teaching songwriting and I remember
Speaker 5: when I was teaching at Berkeley, and I told them
Speaker 5: when I come in here. There's gonna be moments when
Speaker 5: someone plays me a song and I don't want to
Speaker 5: be obligated to say something just because I'm the teacher.
Speaker 5: Sometimes just as a fan go like, wow, my god,
Speaker 5: that was incredible. It was great. You know, first of
Speaker 5: all I was as a fan. I just enjoying it.
Speaker 5: I love I love scenes. My question is, have you
Speaker 5: guys read it together before?
Speaker 3: This is the first time a freet forree times. This morning,
Speaker 3: we read it nice. You guys did a great job.
Speaker 5: First, let me say this, when Elsa was given the
Speaker 5: first description and you guys.
Speaker 3: Are already.
Speaker 5: My favorite part of this entire scene was how you
Speaker 5: guys were diving into character when she started. If I
Speaker 5: don't know if you're filming this, if you look back
Speaker 5: when she starts to talk, you're automatically, Mitchell, you're already
Speaker 5: going in the frustration mode.
Speaker 3: You're like.
Speaker 5: Right, and Mark was already going and resent mode. You
Speaker 5: already allowing the weight of the characters. Were already there.
Speaker 5: It wasn't like and scene. And that's the beautiful thing
Speaker 5: is like show up with it, show up there already there,
Speaker 5: like when you walk into the audition room, walk into
Speaker 5: the audition room with it if you need to. The
Speaker 5: one thing I would say, Mitchell, and this is such
Speaker 5: a small note. You have this truly gifted, very low voice, right,
Speaker 5: So there's a there's a magic to just allowing the
Speaker 5: voice to be just beautiful in all phrases. So there
Speaker 5: was a level of frustration where you're digging into mark
Speaker 5: and like w how'd you do that? And where your
Speaker 5: base really really shows up. Then you kind of had
Speaker 5: an idea. There was this idea moment, right, It was
Speaker 5: almost like an aha moment, like I don't know exact line,
Speaker 5: but you might have said, like what do you think
Speaker 5: she wants?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: And that gives you some liberty to try something else
Speaker 5: with your voice, because that's a different At one point,
Speaker 5: you imagine you're punching them right, and now you're like
Speaker 5: almost putting your hand on the shoulder. What would be
Speaker 5: the difference in texture, in tone and pitch and that
Speaker 5: in that speech right there, Because when you have a
Speaker 5: low voice like that, it's almost kind of like I
Speaker 5: don't know if you follow boxing, but you set the
Speaker 5: jab up to throw the upper upper cut right, so
Speaker 5: the low, the lower I keep my voice, that's the
Speaker 5: body blows.
Speaker 3: Right. So then when I go, but then.
Speaker 5: They're not expecting it, right, it's like this discomfort. So
Speaker 5: I would just I would just when you have a
Speaker 5: script and it goes for I think both of you
Speaker 5: guys had great speaking voices. You have a lower voice,
Speaker 5: so it kind of gives you liberty of laying in that, right,
Speaker 5: So I would just say, you know, experiment with with
Speaker 5: that a little bit. But I feel like you did
Speaker 5: a great job of moving your your pitch and your
Speaker 5: tone around already, Like that's like already acknowledging something you
Speaker 5: already know.
Speaker 3: Right, Mark you had you.
Speaker 5: Had an interesting place because you had a place of
Speaker 5: like just this level of regret, right, you know. I
Speaker 5: loved your pace in general. There was a a spot
Speaker 5: where there was another level of like thinking the turn,
Speaker 5: like when you had the moment of like you were
Speaker 5: gone and now you're like you're probably right, I do
Speaker 5: lover right, and it's like just taking the time and
Speaker 5: just I would just encourage you guys to still lean
Speaker 5: on what you already know, lean on the patience, lean
Speaker 5: on that that and then and then have no problem
Speaker 5: to pull from.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 5: I don't know if either one of y'all married or
Speaker 5: this is that data world is gangster right now, So
Speaker 5: you've been here already, right, applie it literally just apply
Speaker 5: it in there. But I would tell you, guys, I
Speaker 5: mean I was. I was thoroughly pleased. I just like this,
Speaker 5: uh like just two brothers kind of going into this
Speaker 5: character and you guys like completely transformed before you'll even
Speaker 5: said a word. I was watching you guys completely transformed
Speaker 5: into to this car, into the situation, into the characters.
Speaker 3: And I was like, they've already won. I was like,
Speaker 3: they already won. They didn't say a word, yet, you
Speaker 3: already won.
Speaker 5: Because that's the like I said, when I walk into
Speaker 5: the studio, I'm walking in as a character already.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 3: Great, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: Great feedback, Eric, I mean, it's not just feedback, but
Speaker 1: it really is good food for the soul, y'all.
Speaker 2: It feels good, you know, and sometimes you.
Speaker 1: Know, like not everybody should be coming at y'all like right,
Speaker 1: but that makes so much sense, and I agree with you.
Speaker 1: It's so important to set it up before you guys
Speaker 1: do it, and that's why you guys did so a clause.
Speaker 2: Thank you Mark and Mitchell, thank you ELSA.
Speaker 4: Absolutely sad part.
Speaker 5: I can get Can I give Mitchell and Mark one
Speaker 5: thing though also I don't know where you guys are
Speaker 5: at in your work and things of the nature, but
Speaker 5: I want to give you guys just one thing of
Speaker 5: encouragement from what I've watched for a long time, right
Speaker 5: from from actors to musicians to producers to all forms.
Speaker 3: The norm is not the.
Speaker 5: Norm till it is the norm. And if you are
Speaker 5: doing something different, if you're doing something that is that
Speaker 5: you feel is working, but you're receiving criticism or you're
Speaker 5: receiving nos off of what you're doing, it might just
Speaker 5: be that the unique approach that you're taking is not
Speaker 5: the norm yet. But visionaries design things that are about
Speaker 5: to come right. So imagine the person working on an
Speaker 5: electric car and everybody's running making gas cars, and they go, well, you.
Speaker 3: Work on electrics, what you're gonna plug it in when
Speaker 3: you get home?
Speaker 5: That's corny man through that electric nonsense vacuum cleaning, like
Speaker 5: it's like it's like, no, I'm I'm making something that.
Speaker 5: But what I will tell you is one day you're
Speaker 5: going to turn on the TV, or one day you're
Speaker 5: going to go to a play and you're going to
Speaker 5: see a young actor imitating your technique because at some
Speaker 5: point what you're doing will become the norm. Right, you
Speaker 5: just have to trust and keep working towards it while
Speaker 5: everybody's going, why'd.
Speaker 3: You say it like that? Why are you doing this?
Speaker 3: Why do you start that? Why do you start your
Speaker 3: own theater group? Why'd you do that? Like whatever? This
Speaker 3: scenario is like, understand.
Speaker 5: From Facebook to the buildings in the in New York,
Speaker 5: that how New York was grafted out.
Speaker 3: If you ever look at the history of New York,
Speaker 3: whatever you think.
Speaker 5: Of someonet, why would you graph it out, flatten to
Speaker 5: fill up the lakes?
Speaker 3: What do you talk that's dump build buildings.
Speaker 5: Somebody's not going to understand that your vision at some
Speaker 5: point is going to become the norm. And when it
Speaker 5: becomes the norm, just say thank you, take it as
Speaker 5: a compliment.
Speaker 3: Keep working.
Speaker 5: But that's my encouragement to you because I've watched it.
Speaker 5: I've watched producers get laughed out of rooms and then
Speaker 5: they're the most sought after producers. You know, artists who
Speaker 5: who are getting booed off stage, then they're the biggest
Speaker 5: artists in the entire world. As well as actors who
Speaker 5: are just going through audition, audition. Nothing works until the
Speaker 5: yes comes, and once say yes comes, all the yes come,
Speaker 5: and not that, then all of the imitators come.
Speaker 3: And all of the oh.
Speaker 5: I always knew it's going to work, so I would
Speaker 5: just stay staying encouraged, man, like, use your creativity and
Speaker 5: it's important like if if you're receiving those, make sure
Speaker 5: that you are being your yes too. I see the
Speaker 5: camera light behind you, so like film, like, learn a camera,
Speaker 5: film it that scene I just did, y'all nailed it.
Speaker 5: If I was all, I'll be getting in the car,
Speaker 5: putting a camera on the dash and filming it this week,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like just like it is,
Speaker 5: Like I think those are like very very important important aspects.
Speaker 5: But I look forward to celebrating you both when you
Speaker 5: become the norm.
Speaker 1: Thank you, and we on the Spirit After podcast.
Speaker 2: We're gonna celebrate you every single day. You please you, guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm so inspired by your music. I'm so
Speaker 1: inspired by you as a human being and just being
Speaker 1: emotionally available and sharing with us today and just grateful.
Speaker 1: There's two things that I pulled that were my favorites
Speaker 1: out of there's so much on Eric.
Speaker 2: You guys, I love it.
Speaker 1: Eric is married, and he said, being blessed to be
Speaker 1: with a woman.
Speaker 2: Who has had my back and who.
Speaker 1: Completes me helped me put me in a special mood
Speaker 1: to create. Oh my god, that just stepped forward me
Speaker 1: and I said, I that's why I still.
Speaker 2: Believe in love, that I'm never not not believe in love.
Speaker 1: And then I just want to tell you that I
Speaker 1: am inspired to dance love and make the best of now,
Speaker 1: mister Eric Robinson, that's what Eric, That's what.
Speaker 2: Eric wants you to feel with his beauty. That's what
Speaker 2: he wants you to feel. So I feel that, Eric,
Speaker 2: thank you for that gift.
Speaker 3: Eric may appreciate it. I appreciate it. This has been beautiful,
Speaker 3: even from Spruce counting us in. Everything's been enjoyable.
Speaker 1: Moment, well, we enjoyed every single second. And I'm so
Speaker 1: grateful that Elso brought you on. And you are always
Speaker 1: welcome to come on while we're here and everywhere we are.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, please please put your hand together. A
Speaker 1: phenomenal human being, mister two time nominated.
Speaker 2: Grammy, much much more, much much more active relate y'all
Speaker 2: have to read it.
Speaker 1: Yourself, mister Eric Robson, singer, songwriter, producer and overall magnificent
Speaker 1: spiritual human being.
Speaker 3: Thanks when we come back.
Speaker 1: You're welcome on the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a little bit of a little bit.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Kudo's Corner.
Speaker 1: Kudos Corner is where we celebrate actors, support actors.
Speaker 2: And just love on them.
Speaker 1: This week's Kudo's Corner puts the spotlight on Spirited actor
Speaker 1: Aaron Bolwear. In twenty twenty three, I have the wonderful
Speaker 1: opportunity to cast Aaron as a lead in the Rolando
Speaker 1: Hudson directed reading of Faces in My Fist from writer
Speaker 1: Lisa McCree. Recently, Aaron was selected as the sole actor
Speaker 1: to be chosen by three featured writers to perform their
Speaker 1: works in the Act Up competition during the Hip Hop
Speaker 1: Film Festival in New York. This month, he will be
Speaker 1: featured in the musical I Matter from Initial Entertainment and Productions,
Speaker 1: as well as their reoccurring stage play That's Not Cool
Speaker 1: About Bullying in School. In twenty twenty five, look for
Speaker 1: Aaron in two more of their plays. In addition to
Speaker 1: his first film role, in King three from Royal Family Films.
Speaker 1: Kudos to Aaron Boulwear and now it's time to give low.
Speaker 1: I know what it's like to have an angel on
Speaker 1: one shoulder and a devil on the other. Show or
Speaker 1: positive and negative energy.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So in nineteen ninety eight, I had a situation. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to name any names, but I was working
Speaker 1: on film with one of Michaelis and someone in my
Speaker 1: past had resurfaced and they weren't really nice in my past.
Speaker 2: But I love the way spirit sets things.
Speaker 1: Up right because when this person resurfaced in my life,
Speaker 1: they asked me for a favor, and the favor they
Speaker 1: needed was to meet one of my clients. Now I
Speaker 1: had the angel saying do it, Tracy, let it go, forget,
Speaker 1: and then I had the devil on my shoulders saying, no, Casey.
Speaker 10: Don't do it. Don't help them remember what they did.
Speaker 10: So I chose the angel. I chose to help them,
Speaker 10: and what that did. The takeaway at.
Speaker 1: The end of the day was it was really more
Speaker 1: painful for that person than.
Speaker 2: It was for me.
Speaker 1: And I don't believe in revenge, but I definitely feel
Speaker 1: like the universe came around that time for me and
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