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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. I'm your

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Speaker 1: host Colleen Wits, and today we have in the building

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Speaker 1: music artists, philosopher entrepreneur Lar Russell, and I am truly excited.

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Speaker 1: Nothing made my day more than like what two days

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Speaker 1: ago when your I think his crew confirmed like two

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Speaker 1: or three days ago, and it literally they were like,

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Speaker 1: holy why are you so silent? You're supposed to be happy.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I'm just making sure you

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Speaker 1: tell me the date because if you tell me a

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Speaker 1: month from now, I'm not getting excited because just in

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Speaker 1: case something happens. And she was like, so you're happy,

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Speaker 1: I said, what was the date two days from now?

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Speaker 1: I said, hell, yeah, I'm happy. Girl. Thanks shoutouts in

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Speaker 1: Nicole from the Black Effect for booking you. UM super

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Speaker 1: happy to have you. I love the name of your

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Speaker 1: company and I love what you're about. I'm the name

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Speaker 1: of his company is called Good comp Penny as in Points,

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Speaker 1: which I was like, oh, oh that's different, I said, Man,

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Speaker 1: Larrussell's hitting us with so much in teg pretty you

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Speaker 1: remind me of a cross between jay Z and Drake

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Speaker 1: and anyone that has not heard your music or kind

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Speaker 1: of even tried to cyberspy on you was like really

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Speaker 1: missing out, like on some good stuff. But um, since

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Speaker 1: I have you in my kitchen, uh the eating while

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Speaker 1: broke kitchen, I have to know what were you eating

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Speaker 1: when you were broke? Man. Today I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: making an egg sandwich. This was a classic. My mama

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Speaker 1: taught me how to make eggs when I was like five,

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Speaker 1: and I used to wake up every morning and make

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Speaker 1: eggs and that was the only thing I knew how

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Speaker 1: to make. So we're taking it back to the basics.

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Speaker 1: We got some eggs, we got some salt and pepper.

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Speaker 1: Today we're gonna be doing it on garlic bread. Because

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Speaker 1: I usually use regular bread. We just throw it in

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Speaker 1: a toaster. But my boy Austin was like, you gotta

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Speaker 1: do garlic bread, so I figured we spice it up today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've had a whole discussion about the whole garlic bread,

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Speaker 1: you and I because I've actually never even thought of

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Speaker 1: garlic bread. Actually, the first time I ever had garlic

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Speaker 1: bread for real, for real was the Texas toast in

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Speaker 1: the box. And now if you go into a store,

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Speaker 1: it is sold out, like you can't get it. It's

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Speaker 1: a miracle if you find one maybe on eBay, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know the pandemic. Just like said, take away

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Speaker 1: the best bread on earth? Um, but um, I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to eat with you, so let's get it cracking. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, an egg a crack. I listened to rap

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Speaker 1: music so much that my girlfriend and I shout out

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Speaker 1: to will Let behind the mirror over there. Um. I

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Speaker 1: listened to wrap soap music so much that I actually

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Speaker 1: speak in metaphors and sometimes people have to stop me

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Speaker 1: and say, can we get it? You know you don't

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Speaker 1: have to, you don't have to rebreak it down in

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Speaker 1: puzzle terms. I'm a metaphor speakers. Can I move this

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Speaker 1: so I can crack some magazine? Slide over to my

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Speaker 1: side the greatest? Are you eating one too? So I

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Speaker 1: should make all you have to cook for both of

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Speaker 1: us because if it's trash, we can both discover that

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Speaker 1: garlic bread egg sandwiches is just not I'm going to

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Speaker 1: drop some butt up in here because my mom would

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Speaker 1: be like, use some PAM so you don't leave egg

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Speaker 1: stained all over the now. Are you one of those

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Speaker 1: people that are really going to use metal on age? Yes? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're not supposed to do that. Even every listener is

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Speaker 1: hearing that scratching is like, what is he doing? That's crazy?

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Speaker 1: What is he doing? His mama could have handled ever

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Speaker 1: let him do that. Man, she did. You wouldn't believe

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Speaker 1: how much stuff my mom let me do. Let I

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Speaker 1: don't even think we had tesline back then. Maybe I

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Speaker 1: don't remember. You're right, it was like a luxury. I'm sure, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: back then. I think you're right. You just had to

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Speaker 1: butter everything down. Otherwise it's stuck or you get that

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Speaker 1: good old pam spray and you in it. Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: getting it all over there. I'm not. I'm not a

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Speaker 1: you know, So tell me a little bit about what

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Speaker 1: was going on. I know this is like the first

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Speaker 1: dish that you ever cooked, But tell me what was

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Speaker 1: going on during the time of Also, I usually add

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Speaker 1: I don't see salt over here. There's y'all struggling, Yo,

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Speaker 1: so much fun of us over here. You're not even

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Speaker 1: gonna use lorries because we don't Now, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: use lorries. I've never done that. I'm trying to you

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Speaker 1: I don't use lowries. Well, I just started to recently,

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Speaker 1: but it's only because I married a black man from

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Speaker 1: Detroit who believes loss everything season and yes, beautiful. Um,

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Speaker 1: So what was going on growing up? Uh? Like around

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Speaker 1: when you were making egg sandwiches? I know you started

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Speaker 1: at five, you know, making these, but like kind of

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Speaker 1: tell me a little bit of your background growing up,

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Speaker 1: Like where you middle class? I thought I was middle

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Speaker 1: class until I got older and realized we're definitely lower

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Speaker 1: middle class. But my pops was a hustler, so we

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Speaker 1: were like we had enough money to be like the

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Speaker 1: richest nigga is in the broke neighborhood. Touch you feel it,

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Speaker 1: but definitely uh lord class, just regular neighborhood and be

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Speaker 1: hard to describe when people ask that question because you've

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Speaker 1: got to kind of growth in it to to be familiar.

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Speaker 1: Did you grow up in a two parent household? Yeah? Definitely. Wow, Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people on the show haven't. I'm going in. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's good. So when did you transition to music. Um.

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Speaker 1: I've been writing since I was like seven, whether through

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Speaker 1: like writing poems or just journaling, um, drawing. Just I've

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Speaker 1: just always used kind of writing an art as like

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Speaker 1: an artistic expression inform um. So yeah, since I was seven,

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Speaker 1: and it's kind of just cultivated me. And my sister

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Speaker 1: had this boom box and we used to download instrumentals

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Speaker 1: instrumentals on the boom box and wrap over it. And

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Speaker 1: I remember we had a wrapped over nucket you buck,

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Speaker 1: and I was going crazy, but my sister was better

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Speaker 1: keep working. Your sister was rapping two. Yeah, my sister

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Speaker 1: was rapping two So does she still wrap? No, she doesn't.

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Speaker 1: So you surpassed her and the rap skills and then

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Speaker 1: just kind of stuck with it. Okay, okay, okay, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. So you is it that you like Drake,

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Speaker 1: because its like from what I've researched on you, is

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Speaker 1: that you from other articles and you could correct me

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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. But your goal was to be on

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Speaker 1: the level I want to say, and on the I

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Speaker 1: don't know, like numbers level, because obviously talent wise, you're

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Speaker 1: on the same level as Drake, but I'm saying numbers wise,

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Speaker 1: you want to be on the same level, but independently. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: is that correct? And not necessarily numbers wise, but impacting

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Speaker 1: notoriety wise. You know, I want people to respect me

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Speaker 1: as such, and partially the way to do that is

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Speaker 1: to put up the numbers. Right. If you're not scoring

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Speaker 1: as well as Jordan's, people don't expect you respect you

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Speaker 1: like a Jordan, right, Um, and yeah, to do that

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Speaker 1: and you got to use these methods and you gotta

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Speaker 1: sell away your ownership, you know, like everyone knows early

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Speaker 1: on Drake didn't have his masters and had a horrible deal. Um,

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Speaker 1: I want to show people that you can get to

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Speaker 1: that level without having to go through that. Right. When

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Speaker 1: you say, uh, I just want to rewind you said

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Speaker 1: it was important for you to have impact and notoriety,

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Speaker 1: Like why, what does that even mean to me? It

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Speaker 1: just uh, it enables you to two It enables you

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Speaker 1: to make change, like right now, feed the whole hood

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Speaker 1: where I'm from. You know, from down to the end

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Speaker 1: of the year, I've been feeding the hood out of

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Speaker 1: my own pocket. And I've only been able to do

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Speaker 1: that because of my impact and my notoriety. I've become

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Speaker 1: so great that I make enough money to where I

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Speaker 1: could take care of the place that birth me right,

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Speaker 1: And a lot of people don't get to do that

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Speaker 1: because they don't have either the talent, devil or the

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Speaker 1: resource to do it. I've been able to do it independently.

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Speaker 1: I finish dropped this garly bread on this joint. It's already,

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Speaker 1: it's already done, already toasted it in Oh that's crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I try to cheat it because I wanted to get

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Speaker 1: all up in yourkool aid. Wow, So I put the

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Speaker 1: tempo because you can't find that anywhere intriguing. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: try it. Let's be a team here. Um dang, why

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Speaker 1: do we have to break from your story? Though? Right?

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Speaker 1: Is this not the hardest interview or process? This is great,

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Speaker 1: This is great I'm a I'm a multitasker. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: try this still, all right, So we get the bread. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: we're getting the garlic bread situation together and we're putting

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Speaker 1: eggs in it. Yeah, this is new. I've never had this.

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Speaker 1: Shout out Austin for you have to turn off the store.

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Speaker 1: Ye let me get right on there. Berthie was talking

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Speaker 1: going to put garlic bread on there, but you know

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Speaker 1: you guys did it so okay, completely forgot you were

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Speaker 1: going to actually make it. You don't even know how

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Speaker 1: and you're good after let's trying. Okay, let's go back

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Speaker 1: to notoriety and impact and you feeding your community. Okay,

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Speaker 1: stealing all your eggs, buddy, All right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to sample it first before we get

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Speaker 1: into the nuts and bolts? Sure, all right, let's try

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Speaker 1: to Here we go. Okay, bread, I think Texas garlic,

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Speaker 1: but at least we now know we actually now know

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Speaker 1: how to do it in the future. But it's way

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Speaker 1: too much bread on this one, way too much bread.

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Speaker 1: It's like a bread with a side of eggs. It's

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Speaker 1: actually garlic, a garlic bread sandwich. Would you ever serve

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Speaker 1: the same? Almost? Mm hmm. That could be an ideal

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Speaker 1: but within a bread, right, yeah, look at me? Do

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Speaker 1: I Can we call it the eating wall Brooks and no?

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Speaker 1: That would probably be horrible haunts to name it the

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Speaker 1: eating wall broke sandwich? While you're at a pay pay

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Speaker 1: as you go, is it pay as you go or

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Speaker 1: pay what you want? Let's pay what you want? Proud

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Speaker 1: to pay? Well, comes sit sit with me so I

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Speaker 1: jumped off camera on that one. Right, It's fine, it's

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Speaker 1: real life, real life. So let's go into moments Momo's

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Speaker 1: moms Cafe, momos cafe for a second. What inspired all

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Speaker 1: of that? Mm hmmm, or at least a partner just

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Speaker 1: seeing the need. There's a lot of homeless in Leo

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Speaker 1: and just people who don't get to eat. And I'm

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Speaker 1: always outside so I always see it. I'm always giving

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Speaker 1: someone money or take care of someone. Whether my mom

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Speaker 1: out there to the different encampments, and um, I'm just

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Speaker 1: I've done a few of these prior this year, but

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Speaker 1: you what it is. And I always have to say,

424
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Speaker 1: ignore the name, and then I tell them, you know,

425
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: the show is about inspiring people and just kind of

426
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: leveling with them and inspiring them that they can do

427
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: exactly what you did, or they should believe in themselves

428
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: no matter what their environment isn't. But I always have

429
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: to do this thing her. That's why I like certain

430
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: things will get to me through email, but since it

431
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: doesn't have full context, it's like I can't tend to

432
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: it right because it doesn't resonate. But that's why I'm

433
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: always somebody. I'm so open. If you see me anywhere,

434
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: you can comes to me and address me, and once

435
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 1: I meet you and feel your energy, it's like, okay,

436
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: that makes sense, right, But emails have no context like that.

437
00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: Just you gotta take it for whatever you want I'm uh.

438
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: Pitpole told me this once. He said, if they locked

439
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: the door, you're climbing through the window. I was like, oh,

440
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: he didn't respond, and nicolete better use that show me

441
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's running this show and uh, you know,

442
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: get his attention. And not only did I do that,

443
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: but I liked you so much. I literally was like,

444
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: and your Leisure should have him, Charlemagne should have him,

445
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: all these people should have him, and she was like, mmmm,

446
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: I think they already did. Like I was like the

447
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: last one to the table, like these are the shows

448
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: he should be on. I don't even even never had

449
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: an opportunity with him, but I was like, damn, all

450
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: your publicists over there like this is who I want, um,

451
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: And and that's you know why we name the show,

452
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, eating Wall Broke.

453
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: But I get it because I literally every time I

454
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Speaker 1: sell someone on the idea, I'm like, just ignore the name,

455
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: ignore the name. But I'm glad that you take time

456
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: to come and sit with me, and super excited. I

457
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: love literally everything you're about um and uh sorry, uh.

458
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: One of the things that kind of surprised me is

459
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: the entrepreneur in you and like also, like, why did

460
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: you name your company the good compenny? Right? Well, I

461
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: mean good company just because there's a quote. Let's say

462
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: your mamma say you just by the company you keep, right,

463
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: So I feel like good company isn't compassing of just

464
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: I like to have good people around me, and we

465
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: build great energy when we go into places. We're good

466
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: company to have, right, just that name, it's welcoming. And

467
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: then I use pennies because I feel like pennies are

468
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: undervalued and overlooked. Right, if you see a penny on

469
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: the ground, you usually don't stop and pick it up.

470
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: But imagine if you stopped and picked up every penny

471
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: you walk past throughout your whole life, only have more

472
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: money than a lot of the people beside you. Even

473
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: though it's a penny, there's a multitude of them, Like

474
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: we passed them up all the time everywhere, and no

475
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: one really cares. Right, But it exists for a reason.

476
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: I sometimes think pennies exists to go in my daughter's mouth.

477
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: That was a terrible joke. I'm a new mom, I'm

478
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: a random mom. I spend most of my days trying

479
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: to commence my daughter, not to try a new way

480
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: to commit suicide right right now? You see. Now you

481
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: see why our parents are like tired by eight o'clock

482
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: because they spent the entire day like what do you

483
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: have to do next? But? Um, but what can people

484
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: expect from you in the future music wise? Um? A

485
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: ton of it? Oh a lot of it. You know.

486
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: I'm someone I live by this theory of like leaving empty.

487
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: I don't want to leave with nothing on my plate

488
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: and all the music I have I intend to release

489
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: and get out. I don't want to sit on things

490
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: for years. Um. I'm currently building crazy infrastructure at home.

491
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: I keep saying I'm building Disneyland because we're building something

492
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: like that completely laterally. Um but really, uh, I don't know.

493
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't have any expectation of myself. So I think

494
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: people shouldn't. They should just enjoy the journey. Like how

495
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: you say you've been spying, Like, I hope when you

496
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: spy you're smiling because it's just it's a hell of

497
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: a show to watch. You haven't got to see too

498
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: many artists actually make it in front of us, right,

499
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: Like we see the resulting that the label post and share,

500
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: but we don't see like him going City of the

501
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: City Hey, yeah, I'm out. I'm gonna do a pop

502
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: up to you know, like we don't get to see

503
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: that part of the journey, and I'm showing all of it.

504
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm showing us running merch fulfilment out of my house.

505
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: My mom is dropping them, dropping them off, like I'm

506
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: showing the entire process, and we're sharing the gyms alone.

507
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: So I think people should just stay tuned and and

508
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: and this. We got enough sequels to to beat the

509
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: Fast and Furious series, you know, like we're coming like that,

510
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: and you will do your pop YouTube pop up shows, right,

511
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: We're doing one tonight. I just I just got off

512
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: a plane and I was like, man, I want to

513
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: do a show. So we announced it and now the

514
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: show tickets have been selling tonight. It's going to be

515
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: at going this is. This one's gonna be special because

516
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: it's an unplugged version and it's like live Q and

517
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: A like people eight, I'm not gonna lie, like I

518
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: would love to go come on, please come on. Man's

519
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: dope about our shows. It's like this one is a

520
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: bit different, but generally with our shows, like I used

521
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: the second half of my set to just let the

522
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: fans choose the songs they wanted here, and I wrap

523
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: whatever they say they want to hear, right, So it's

524
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,239
Speaker 1: like a really interactive show. We did one in New

525
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: York and Brooklyn when we went out there and sold

526
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: out in six hours five hundred tickets. So now I've

527
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: just kind of been in this wave where it's like

528
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: I just be like, I feel like doing it, and

529
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: we do it and it usually goes well. And then

530
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: who kind of does the logistics? So myself for Naughty,

531
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: he's a member of my team. He helps with booking,

532
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: Teata helps with logistics. Millie is on my team so

533
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: anytime we go to a tour route and she kind

534
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: of plans and give a guy in girl team. Yeah, yeah,

535
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: I like that because sometimes you work with people and

536
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: they like Slay Holder, like Charloagne's companies pretty pretty much

537
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: ran by women, Black women, which is amazing. Man. I

538
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't be where I am without women. I have a

539
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: team of like the most incredible creative intuit and women

540
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: when it comes to just business and everything. Now, one

541
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: of the things I did see, and I could be wrong,

542
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: maybe lack of research, um, but I feel like on

543
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: one of the things you had posted was like if

544
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: people buy your records, they have like some kind of

545
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: ownership in it, so not necessarily if you buy it

546
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: some people so on on. Usually on projects, I'll sell

547
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: my album before it comes to streaming, and anyone who

548
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: buys that project is up for selection to receive a royalty.

549
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: So I usually go through the list of buyers and

550
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: I'll pick like fifty to a hundred people, sometimes a

551
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: hundred fifty if I'm feeling good, sometimes two, and I'll

552
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: give them a percentage of royalty in different songs from

553
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: that album. You can also buy royalties, like you could

554
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: make an offer to purchase a share. So if you

555
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: have a favorite song you're like, I love this song,

556
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be big, or just I love

557
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: this song, I just want to have a stake in it,

558
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: you can make an offer to me and say I

559
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: want five percent of the revenue from this song. I'm

560
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: willing to give you a thousand dollars five hundred dollars,

561
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: and I'll read I'll hit you and negotiate and say

562
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,959
Speaker 1: I'm willing to take this so I'm not, and then

563
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: I send you a percentage through the distro you collect

564
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: every month into perpetuity for the rest of your life. Yeah,

565
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: I've never heard of someone doing that, but I've never

566
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: heard of song. I was like, did he do what

567
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: I think he did? How do you? How do you?

568
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: How did you come up with that? Though? How it

569
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 1: was just a late night thought of Like, I've always

570
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: been split in revenue with my team. Everyone who helped, producers, engineers,

571
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: they all get a percent. So one day it was

572
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: just like, we should give the fans something. They listened

573
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: to this ship every day. Imagine if your favorite jay

574
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: Z song, I Man, you listen to it every day,

575
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: but you don't want to present it my fans, like

576
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: Baggas claim, blew up. Some of my fans had equity

577
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: in that song when it first dropped, that a year

578
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: before it even took off. So they for the rest

579
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: of their life they're going to be getting money off,

580
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: Baggs claimed, because they just made the right call. They

581
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: enjoyed the song so and then, but they reached out

582
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: to you, or how did you even announce that I

583
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: made this big announcement in Tieta on my team. She

584
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: created this form for people to go fill out and

585
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: you put all your information, you put your offer amount,

586
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: how much you want it comes to a database. I

587
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: look at all the offers. I'll email you and say, yeah,

588
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: I sent your offer, I liked it, I accept me.

589
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: I go every offered person over, even through email, like

590
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: when we do bookings and ship like, people are always

591
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: surprised that they're talking to me. It's like, it's my business.

592
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: Of course you're talking to me. It makes sense, right,

593
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: I most of my companies, for social reason, cannot get

594
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: them past a certain threshold. I don't know if it's

595
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: like my whatever, but um so most of my companies

596
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: are smaller. So I'll email, but I email under an alias.

597
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: It would be like Samantha, and it'll be like Samantha

598
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: was so crazy. When I used to send out emails

599
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: to get booked, to go to venues and try to

600
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: book them, I used to act like I was my

601
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: own manager. And then eventually it's like, bro, it's me,

602
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: I am the Russell. I'm gonna venue. This is what

603
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: I want to do right. And I've gotten so much

604
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: more rapport response because it's like, of course people want

605
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: to talk to you like I'm doing it right. You

606
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: should you didn't feel at some point, um it hinders

607
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: how much more you can get because like, I'll give

608
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: it pretty v uh. I emailed her and I'm like, okay,

609
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, she responded and then like it was her

610
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: and then she got on the phone with me. She

611
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: like just called me, and then I hear the Jamaican accent.

612
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, I said, and we ended

613
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: up vibing on the phone like for forty five minutes.

614
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: And but it was it was the first time that

615
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: I cold called emailed somebody and not only did they

616
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: respond in record speed, but I mean, first of all,

617
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: that girl is as humble as they yet, but that

618
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: was the first time that I've ever seen like someone

619
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 1: on that level just be like, what's up, what's let's

620
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: do it? She was like what do you want me

621
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 1: to cook? I got beans and then I was like nope.

622
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: I was just like you know, you know, and it

623
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: was past um, no team, no nothing, And you know,

624
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: I don't even know it was her until she called me,

625
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, it's you. You know, that's

626
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: like if jay Z calls me after her n email

627
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: and be like right, people usually get that same shot,

628
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: but it just builds a different relationship, right You You

629
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: respect what someone is building a lot more when you

630
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: know they're working it right. It's hard to suck someone

631
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: over when it's like, oh it's you. They're right. There's

632
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: a different report you have to do. You have a

633
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: internal rule about letting new people into your camp because

634
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: it seems like you have a very large camp. It

635
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: is kind of my kind of Yeah, even my immediate

636
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: group is pretty large. Uh, there's not really a rule,

637
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: just an energy, right, if I know who I like

638
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: and who I don't like, and who fits and who doesn't.

639
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes will trial people out and it's like that didn't

640
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: really work, and we kind of maneuver forward. But it's

641
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: not really any rule, just your energy, how you feel,

642
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: how everyone feels about you, how you feel about everyone,

643
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: and we could usually get a sense of that really fast.

644
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: I also have like I like to work with people

645
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: who work hard, like the best. You know, I don't

646
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: want to It's like, bro, I'm playing at a high

647
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: level at all times. If you can't keep up, you

648
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: need to go on the other court and play with

649
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: the little kids for a bid to your game. Get up.

650
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: Have you experienced failure? Let me just rephrase that, have

651
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: you experienced perceived failure? I hate the word, of course, yeah,

652
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: of course about perceived failure and like what the experience was. Man,

653
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: I've had shows where there was five people in the

654
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 1: crowd and I had to pay for venue. I rented

655
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: a sprinter van to get my team there. We brought equipment,

656
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: We brought a ton of merch that we didn't sail

657
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: because there wasn't no one to sell it to um

658
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: And I was a tough ride home. You know, I

659
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: was silent. I'm usually allowding and talking and childing, but

660
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: I was silent, right. And I've had several of those,

661
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: uh moments of perceived failure even beyond that, just sometimes

662
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: releasing merch and putting all your money into it and

663
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't go. The people don't react. Early on, I

664
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: had a lot of albums. I dropped twenty two albums.

665
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of albums. Early on, I was like,

666
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: this is gonna be Yeah, we've been We didn't blow nothing. Yeah,

667
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: way mote in not even twenty two singles. No, And

668
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: that's just my catalog. I've written other EPs single albums

669
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: for a bunch of other people, so, but just in

670
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: my own album, it's twenty two. When you experienced perceived failure,

671
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: can you walk me through your thoughts um usually as

672
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: negative first, right, it's all like I look for all

673
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: the problems, what I didn't do, how I didn't do

674
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: it while I could have done it better, And then

675
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: eventually it just becomes like analytical solution based, like I

676
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: always want to I always want to prove me wrong

677
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: or anybody wrong. I'm like, well, I'm I'm Finnish. Next time,

678
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it triple the sides and it's gonna

679
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: be a success. But yeah, it's usually just that emotional

680
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: emotional turmoil that comes with it first, where you know,

681
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: you feel that dark cloud over you and sometimes you

682
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: gotta cry or you gotta sit in there and and

683
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: kind of be in that space until you can work

684
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: through it. I'm surprised that you didn't just say, well,

685
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: maybe maybe this is a question. But in that negative space,

686
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: have you questioned you're worth? Like whether you know like

687
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: or five people. I get the logistics because I as

688
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, I get like, what did we do? What

689
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: could we have done differently? But in that negative space,

690
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: can you say and you are prolific for sure, but

691
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: have you questioned your own not? Not in music, like

692
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: anytime I failed in music. It wasn't a question of

693
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: my own worth. It was just like they don't see it. Right.

694
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew I was it. I'm just like

695
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: they don't see it. I haven't done enough work for

696
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: them to see it. They don't see it. Um. So

697
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: I've never questioned my worth in that aspect. If I'm

698
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: questioning my worth, it's usually through some life ship like

699
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: me doing something um against my own morals or against

700
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: my own code, or just I let somebody down on

701
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: that's fear to me. Those are moments I questioned my

702
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: worth when I can't show up for my daughter in

703
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: a way that I felt like I should. Things like that,

704
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: but not music, and I put my our case. No, yeah, no,

705
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: not career wise at all. I know what I'm worth

706
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: in my career. I know what I deliver, I know

707
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: what I bring forth, and even even through life like

708
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm getting to a point where I know my impact

709
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: and how significant I am to you know, the life

710
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: around me in the world. I'm feeding the community, needing

711
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: the community. So there's a book I just recently checked out.

712
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever heard of it. It's

713
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: I'm called Male Versus man, DeAndre Whitfield shoutouts to him.

714
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: I picked up the book. I thought it was for men,

715
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: but so I got it from my uh my friend

716
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: and um but I ended up reading it because I

717
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: like to read. I'm literally in a book headed that

718
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: I am obsessed with books. Um. But I read the

719
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: book and one of the things he pointed out in

720
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: the book, which I will gift you the book now

721
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: that I have, I think I have your address on

722
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: I'll get you information. Um. But anyways, one of the

723
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: things he talked about was like the male versus man.

724
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: You know, the mail is self seeking and the man

725
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: is of service, which is different programs. I never thought

726
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: of that, Like, so when a guy takes me on

727
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: a date, I'm like, are you trying to give it me?

728
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: Are you trying to serve me? Now? At first I

729
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's messed up to like seek service,

730
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: But as a female, it's actually not because you know,

731
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: we seek protection and we proceed. Some of us do

732
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: need help providing and some of us need of course,

733
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: everyone wants to be professed to marry me the announced

734
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: the world, I'm the one. Um. I also in a

735
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: hip hop head and after reading that book, lately, it's

736
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: like every song on the radio is like shout out

737
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: to my sneaky link or or yeah, I'm having sex

738
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: with a my side chick raw. But I'm never gonna

739
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: leave you. I'm never gonna leave my family for you.

740
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, did he really just say he's

741
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 1: having sex with his side chick raw and that's why

742
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 1: she's attached? And some of these lyrics are so terrible

743
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: to women. I'm like, at what point? And who is responsible?

744
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: And this is just an honest like friend or you

745
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: know you you you have responsibilities as a philosopher and

746
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: entrepreneur and a leader and being a vulnerable man yourself,

747
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: Like who is who do you think is responsible? Is

748
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: it the art form, is it the male energy, or

749
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: is it us women? Uh? I don't think anyone is responsible,

750
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: but I think everyone is accountable. I hear the same

751
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: music coming from females as well. I agree. I went

752
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: to a nail salon. I saw nothing but strippers and

753
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: all the girls. I don't I don't think there's a responsibility,

754
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: but there's an accountability. And uh, I think that's one

755
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: of those things. Sad. It's hard to ever be what

756
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: you never see right, A lot of these men that

757
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: make it in hip hop and music, they haven't had

758
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: great examples of leadership or of men that have that

759
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: in them to not fall to desire, or that are

760
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: disciplined or impeccable in their soul or fulfill to where

761
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: they don't need to seek or go get extra and

762
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: the same with women. So I think that's just uh.

763
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: We often ask these artists to build things that they

764
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: don't have the tools to build, right, Like, if you

765
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: go look in their toolbox, it's it's like you want

766
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: them to build a house, you guys. Feel like jay

767
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: Z kind of touched on that in uh. I want

768
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: to say four for four one of the albums like

769
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: where he was the first one to be where we're

770
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: see that, Oh wow, you've upgraded your toolbox, right, But

771
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: a lot of artists don't have that. We're coming out

772
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: of environments that don't nurture that type of behavior or system.

773
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: Like when I was coming up, the older men around

774
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: me was like players do like what you feel me,

775
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: So you grow up embracing that and wanted to be

776
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: like that. That's what you replicate, that's what you know.

777
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: You don't see anyone I've I don't think I've ever

778
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: seen a man that was just so in love and

779
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: revere their family so much and treated the woman so well,

780
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: like they meant the world to me. For me to

781
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: be like, man, that's what I want, right, Very seldom

782
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: do you witness that and experience that. But yet you

783
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: expect someone to conduct themselves in that manner, that's what's

784
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. That's interesting. So when it comes to

785
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: accountability in your personal life, who holds you accountable? Is it?

786
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to answer questions. Um, everyone around me

787
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: in a sense holds me accountable in some way, but

788
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: ultimately me like I have to be. I have to

789
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: be the one that wants to get up every day

790
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: and put in work and be better and want to

791
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: drop my daughter off and pick her up and do

792
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: work and things like that. But everyone around me, from myself,

793
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: my mom, my dad, my daughter, her mother, Tieta, Milli, Testy, everyone, Fani,

794
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: just all of my friends hold me accountable in some aspect.

795
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: They're always in my you know, I can only stoop

796
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: so low sometimes before someone it's like, hey, bro, what

797
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: we're doing? Oh? I like that? I like that? Okay,

798
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: is there anything that your fans or me, I don't

799
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: know about you. Um, I mean everything. I mean, I

800
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: guess you only know the music because you're kind of

801
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: signed a camera on your entrepreneurship. You also do all

802
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: these little I don't want to say little, but these

803
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: gems on social media. Um So when I say is

804
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: there anything we don't know about you? I feel like

805
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: you're It's like you learn a lesson. You're like, let's

806
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: put it out there. What about there really somebody else

807
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: today social battle that I be like, I don't know

808
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: if I want to be personal man real no such thing.

809
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: I've had the realist reals, and I share there's no

810
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: such thing. Because there's a billion people in the world

811
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: and someone's been through exactly what you've been through, and

812
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: they may need your help, right, but you're refusing to help.

813
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: You have all the tools and all the means to

814
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: help them, but you're refusing to do it because of

815
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: your own fear, right, And Like, I don't want to

816
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: deny nobody of that tool. Like I want people to

817
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: be able to grow. If that's going to be through

818
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: me just sharing what I felt or experienced, that's an

819
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: easy call, right do you do? And the the world

820
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: is always a sensitive around this topic, but I'm gonna

821
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: go ahead and throw it out there. But do you

822
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: believe in therapy? Do you do therapy? So I recently

823
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: started therapy, probably a few months back, and I had

824
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: a few sessions, and it's uh cool. I'm not consistent

825
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: with it because I don't feel like, um, I'm gaining

826
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: much from it. But I also had like an expectation

827
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: of what I was supposed to get from it, like

828
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be here, like I have a sessions,

829
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: like man, I'm a gold new Man, right, And that's

830
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: not how it happens, and um, for me, I just

831
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: I just realized that it was worth that I need

832
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: to do right. I don't need anyone's help to be

833
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: a better human. I just need to choose to be

834
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: a better human and commit to that. That's not something

835
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: I need to talk to someone about. If you want to, yes,

836
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 1: But for me personally, it's like I built an entire empire.

837
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: I could definitely build myself as a man, right. I

838
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: don't need anyone's assistant to do that. But I chose.

839
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: I've chosen not to write, I've chosen not to allocate

840
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: my energy towards that, which is the only reason I

841
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: haven't grown in any way that I wish to. It's

842
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: funny you say that because I recently full vulnerability here.

843
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: I recently did try therapy and I kind of felt like,

844
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: oh man, this is gonna sound really shitty for all

845
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Speaker 1: those people that give it. But I felt like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't getting the response in that I needed, in

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Speaker 1: the in the record speed that I needed, And it

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Speaker 1: was like I knew the answers, but I just wasn't

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Speaker 1: choosing to make the choice that I needed to make.

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Speaker 1: And in therapy, it takes so much uprooting of your

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00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: childhood to get to the route that I was like, yo,

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to relive the thing that I ran from,

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Speaker 1: like trying to give me PTSD. Like no, I'm good,

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Speaker 1: But I do agree with you, and I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: were honest about that because people say therapy, therapy, therapy,

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00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: and I actually thought you weren't going to say that

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00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: you do therapy because I low key feel like your

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00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: vulnerability and your lyrics is a form of therapy. Definitely, Definitely,

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00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: that's where I get to get all of that from.

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Speaker 1: And someone gets you, man, and like, because I feel

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Speaker 1: like Drake every time. Writing and talking really helps. And

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Speaker 1: that's the thing about the past, like you saying, and

863
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Speaker 1: that shows you how much how deep your trauma is,

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Speaker 1: because you think like speaking about it is reliving it.

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Speaker 1: You can't relive the past, right, It's already been lived,

866
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Speaker 1: it's gone. It only exists in your memory. You can't

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Speaker 1: relive it. But we when trauma hits in a certain way,

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Speaker 1: it makes you feel like you're going through that experience again,

869
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Speaker 1: but it's not. And you really have to work through

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Speaker 1: that to get You got to go through it to

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Speaker 1: get through it, right, yeah, yeah, Or you can try.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I tried my hardest to I believe. I

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Speaker 1: tell myself this. Every store at the end of every

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Speaker 1: storm is a rainbow. So the faster I don't cope

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Speaker 1: through it or the more I do not cope in them,

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Speaker 1: the faster I get through the storm. So like, if

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Speaker 1: I were to number something, drink, get high, have sex,

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Speaker 1: or do what ever it is, go go to the mall,

879
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: look pretty, whatever I gotta do, go to the clubs um.

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Speaker 1: If I cope through it, then it's gonna take me

881
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: longer to heal. So if I go through it and

882
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: like blow my girlfriends then to strangers and seven elevens.

883
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: You know whatever, I'm gonna get through it faster even

884
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: though it's gonna hurt, like you know what I'm saying.

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00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: So definitely, you definitely prolonged the healing process as you

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Speaker 1: as you add, right, every every twinky you eat just

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00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: makes you closer to the opposite end of where you

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00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: want to be, right, and that that's how it is,

889
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: or everything. Every time you do another act that goes

890
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: against what you want to be, you're just adding it.

891
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: Because the thing with with how the human system work

892
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: is the more you do something, the better you get

893
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: at it, right, So the more you live out, the

894
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: better you get at it. Some people are phenomenal cheaters,

895
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: and it's because they do it a whole lot, right,

896
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: So every time you do it, you're getting better at it,

897
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: which means it's going to take a lot long ger

898
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: to get better in the other direction because you're so

899
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Speaker 1: exceptional at what you do. If you lie a lot,

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00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: you're exceptional, it's gonna take you a lot to become

901
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: someone who tells the truth exceptionally. Right. That's that's deep,

902
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: that's deep. But I think at the end of the day. Um.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I personally give people a lot of grace.

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Speaker 1: I'm one of those people that you can literally push

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Speaker 1: me off my seat and be like, I was just

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Speaker 1: angry my bad plan. So I'll be like, oh no,

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Speaker 1: it's okay. Get But now I'm at the place where

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Speaker 1: it's like, I get it, you're angry. I just don't

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00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: want to sit next to you anymore. Take your anger

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Speaker 1: out on the flowers over there, you know. But it's

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00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: a pleasure to have you. I know, we kind of

912
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: we're all over the space. Um, I really would like

913
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Speaker 1: to go to your show tonight. I do have some plans,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna pivot and I'm and I'm a mother now,

915
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: so trust me, everything is like a babysitter, babysitter, nanny, babysitter.

916
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Speaker 1: It's like any amount of freedom costs you have to come.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be special. I'm definitely gonna come. I

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Speaker 1: am a true fan. I have so much ad ration

919
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: for the way you run your businesses, how everyone gets

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00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: to buy and how everyone gets an option to invest,

921
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: and how you partner and do this restaurant where it's

922
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: like pay what you what you want, which is brilliant

923
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: and it's just something that a lot of artists aren't doing,

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00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: you know. And I love the vulnerability and your lyrics.

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Speaker 1: So I'm truly thankful that we finally got you on

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Speaker 1: the show. Um, thank you all listeners for checking out

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Speaker 1: another episode of Eating Wow Broke. I'm your host, coly

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Speaker 1: Wit and today we have wrestle in the building. Where

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Speaker 1: can they find your Like your Instagram handle? What's your Instagram?

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Speaker 1: I'm at Larussell on everything l A r U s

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Speaker 1: AS E L L. You can find me on social

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Speaker 1: media on DSPs, at home in Valeo, walking around. So

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Speaker 1: you don't, oh, you stay in the Bay, I stay home.

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Speaker 1: I live where I'm from and I'm there every day.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking my daughter to school, I'm begging her up,

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Speaker 1: and Momo's checking in on people. I'm around. I'm at home.

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Speaker 1: They when they told me that I got you, it

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Speaker 1: was like I had like two days notice, like you

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Speaker 1: know or whatever. And I was like negotiating with the team.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's scheduled. There's like four people that have to all

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Speaker 1: online schedules, and there was a hiccup and I'm like

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00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: going back and forth, like yo, do you think we

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Speaker 1: can push back and we're all like, no, it's not

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Speaker 1: worth it. Think we got an hour, let's take it.

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Speaker 1: But thank you and thanks for feeding me. You and

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Speaker 1: I both agree. You know, moving forward, we could do eggs,

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Speaker 1: but maybe on not bread thunder garlic bread Yeah, beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Keep keeper for more eating while broke from I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio and The Black Effect, visit the I Heart Radio app,

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Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows