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Speaker 1: This this one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Here we are it's Draft Eve Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: with you and before we plunge into another day of

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Speaker 2: draft discussion, which will begin in earnest very shortly, Steve,

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Speaker 2: I've got a little bit of a problem in my backyard.

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Speaker 2: As you know, World of homeowners, it's well, yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: it's me versus the call of the wild here because

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Speaker 2: I've got a back patio with a cover. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's a covered back patio in my backyard off the

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Speaker 2: back of my house.

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Speaker 3: It's a permanent structure on you know.

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Speaker 1: Solid roof.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, there are ledges on the inside where

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Speaker 2: I have pulled down screens to kind of keep the

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Speaker 2: sun out in the summertime.

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Speaker 1: Burden nests.

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Speaker 3: That's the problem I've got.

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Speaker 2: Robin's trying to set up shop for the third consecutive spring,

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Speaker 2: and so yesterday I've had good success with like those

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Speaker 2: metallic colored pinwheels. You know, you kind of put them

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Speaker 2: up in certain places and the movement and the shininess

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Speaker 2: kind of spooks birds that it works. But this is

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Speaker 2: up way too high for me to set up a

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Speaker 2: pin wheel. I guess I could hang it upside down

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Speaker 2: off the ledgend tape it on. No, no, I'm saying

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Speaker 2: like anyway, So I I hung a couple of shiny

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Speaker 2: things yesterday. It kept them away a little bit. There

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Speaker 2: was no wind this morning, you know, blowing those things

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Speaker 2: around movement and such. So they were back with a vengeance,

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Speaker 2: setting up shop again. And my dog is no help,

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Speaker 2: no guard dog to speak of. So I'm so I'm

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Speaker 2: online and I landed on bird spikes. Have you seen those?

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Speaker 2: You kind of put those on the shelves so they

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Speaker 2: can't land there. That's what I'm gonna do, because you know,

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Speaker 2: you can't watch the backyard the whole dang day. And

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Speaker 2: I've seen you know, we used to have the owl

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Speaker 2: right with the uh what happened with the head that

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Speaker 2: can turn in the wind if it's windy. They laugh

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Speaker 2: at the owl as a matter of fact. They they

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Speaker 2: they crapped right on his head. These birds they didn't care.

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Speaker 2: I was like, wow, that's the ultimate side of disrespect

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Speaker 2: for the dang owl.

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Speaker 3: So that didn't work.

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Speaker 2: So I'm hes. And they have these balloons that have

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Speaker 2: the predator eyes on them. Have you seen those? Yes,

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Speaker 2: that blow in the wind. I don't. I'm not convinced

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Speaker 2: that's gonna work either. So I went with bird spikes.

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Speaker 2: You think I made the right call there? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you don't want that because they can't physically land there

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Speaker 2: because there's spikes in the way.

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Speaker 1: There's there's about three or four places around my place

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Speaker 1: on the house where they try and set up shop,

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Speaker 1: and one or.

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Speaker 2: Two places dang Robbins though every year it is.

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Speaker 1: And I don't on one or two of the places.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. It's fine. But there's Warner, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's place I don't want them, like right at my door,

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Speaker 1: like every time you open the door, they're flying off

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, I don't need that, but it's a problem.

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Speaker 1: It's that time of year too.

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Speaker 2: They are persistent too, Like I've the swine. I got

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Speaker 2: half a nest swept out of there off the ledge yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Come back this morning and they're trying to set and

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Speaker 2: they got another one half built already.

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Speaker 3: And here's the other part.

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Speaker 2: When did trees go out of fashion for birds and

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Speaker 2: using them for hundreds of years, thousands of years? Suddenly

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Speaker 2: a tree isn't good enough. And I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 2: my wife loves trees we put it. I mean, she

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Speaker 2: might as well be in the arbor day Foundation. With

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Speaker 2: all the dang trees we put up in our backyard.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like an obstacle course for me on.

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Speaker 1: The plenty of trees.

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Speaker 2: So take your pick, Like what you need a dome now, Like,

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Speaker 2: what's the deal. That's why you're under my patio covering.

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Speaker 1: Like trees don't have roofs on them. That's the problem.

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Speaker 2: And here's the best part. We have a bird house

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Speaker 2: nailed to one of our trees. So I'm giving you

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Speaker 1: But that's only one bird. That's only one couple. You gotta.

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Speaker 1: Here's this. I wish robins were my only problem. I

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Speaker 1: was sitting there drinking coffee this morning. I look out

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Speaker 1: and there's two deer. But I could have spit.

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Speaker 2: On them and they just look at you like, hey,

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Speaker 2: what's up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Those are vermitent because they, like I got landscaping at

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Speaker 1: the house. It's just like a buffet. I shave the

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Speaker 1: out of my yard with yeah, my little bb gun.

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Speaker 3: Give them a little tap in the dairy.

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Speaker 1: They're like they're like rats with hoofs all they are.

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Speaker 1: I hate them. I hate them, and you know, and

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Speaker 1: now they're so prevalent where I'm at because I'm at

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm no natural predators, right, and my dog

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Speaker 1: is totally desensitized to him. He got tired of like

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Speaker 1: barking every right. He's like, you know, west pals, you

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Speaker 1: can eat the grass. That's fine, go ahead, he mows

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Speaker 1: it anyway, Go ahead. That's where my dog's at.

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Speaker 2: It's fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my dog is either aloof or apathetic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she does not care well anyway, which I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of that.

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Speaker 2: But uh, we got draft stuff to talk about and

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Speaker 2: an interesting question to ask for you to ask uh

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Speaker 2: as part of the show today, we'll explain in a second.

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Speaker 2: Today's the big day, Steve. Have you seen all the

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Speaker 2: slow mo videos on social media? Yes, Aaron Rodgers with

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Speaker 2: his walk up music is all he needed to make

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Speaker 2: it a complete picture.

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Speaker 3: Arriving at the Jets facility in fair.

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Speaker 2: Lawn, New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Obligatory slow motion. Oh my gosh, it's got a Jets

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Speaker 1: hoodie on.

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Speaker 2: Like a movie trailer. Probably.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing that you got to know about

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Speaker 1: this too. You know, he got there like man five

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Speaker 1: or ten minutes before this gets out, come walks in

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Speaker 1: and they go, hey, can you go out put this

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Speaker 1: jet hoodie on, go back out and let us film

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Speaker 1: you walking in. Yeah, sure, Yeah, no problem.

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Speaker 2: Judy Battista, friend of the show who works for NFL Network,

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Speaker 2: had a great tweet about it. Jesusaid, welcome to bro

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Speaker 2: Hugs Central, right, because he gets five steps in the

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Speaker 2: building and there's Woody Johnson, there's Robert Salah, there's Joe Douglas.

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Speaker 2: I mean, oh boy, everybody under the sun. So it's

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Speaker 2: all handshakes and smiles.

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Speaker 1: As Aaron Rodgers arrives to his second Darkness retweet, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know it's interesting. This was gonna last a while.

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Speaker 2: I'm anticipating that he's gonna participate in O tas.

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Speaker 3: This will be the first OTA session he's participated in

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Speaker 3: maybe in like ten years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: He skipped all those voluntaries at the cat with the pack.

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Speaker 1: That's right. At two o'clock, we're gonna he's on with

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Speaker 1: the media in New York and one of the guys

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Speaker 1: in the works in the media there, and I can't

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Speaker 1: remember which guy was. He did a list of kind

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Speaker 1: of these things on the agenda, I mean, like Darkness retreats,

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Speaker 1: his anti vax stands, aahuasca, all the whole thing, hallucinogen, mushroom,

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Speaker 1: the whole that, a whole menu of things they were

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Speaker 1: gonna touch on. We're gonna we're gonna try and replay

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Speaker 1: a little bit of this for you if you're if

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to catch it live, we'll

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Speaker 1: we'll replace some highlights as we see fit.

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Speaker 2: After that.

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Speaker 1: Mattie's coming on with us too, so we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: to her first and then we'll catch his stuff and

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Speaker 1: we'll give it back to you. But this trip down

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Speaker 1: experimentation Lane with Aaron Rodger just showing up in Jersey,

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Speaker 1: it's right from this opening salvo of media that he's

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Speaker 1: New York. Now he's done in the Super Bowl, I

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Speaker 1: get that, But as you know a few years ago,

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Speaker 1: this this is gonna be something different. Him being in

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Speaker 1: Green Bay and deciding not to go to OTA's wasn't

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Speaker 1: even a blip on green Bay the Packers' radar. He'd

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Speaker 1: been there forever and all that. In New York, he

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have to answer for it big time. Every

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Speaker 1: they're gonna he's gonna be under intense media scrutiny like

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever been through save maybe a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl week, which even then that's four days. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is not gonna let up for another three months

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Speaker 1: until the season gets here.

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Speaker 2: You know, until they get Aaron Rodgers sent his farewell

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Speaker 2: message to the fans of the Green Bay Packers, in

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Speaker 2: part saying his heart will always be in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: Nice Aaron, Yeah, if not his retirement papers, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got to you gotta have a fond sense of Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a big era of your life.

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Speaker 3: He got his super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: He was there for how many years?

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Speaker 2: Eighteen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and played for what fifteen was their starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: for fifteen? Correct, And got him a Super Bowl, got

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Speaker 1: him in the Championship game a couple of times, but

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Speaker 1: you know, playoffs routinely. He was a four time MVP.

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Speaker 1: and so it makes a lot of sense that he

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean that's what that's what they all

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Speaker 2: do these days, you know, the little social media posts.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that there's something. I'm sure he's sincere

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Speaker 2: He named a lot of people in his one page rundown,

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Speaker 2: So that's good. I hope it was sincere. Let's continue

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Speaker 2: going around the NFL, which as we know, is presented

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Speaker 2: by Kalida Healthy official Healthcare System of the Buffalo Bill

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Speaker 2: some fifty year option news Steve. This was a formality,

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Speaker 2: but the Bengals have exercised the fifty year option on

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. Really, as they are talking long term contract

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Speaker 2: extension already.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna give him another chance.

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Speaker 3: This is a placeholder for all intents.

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Speaker 1: And they're gonna hang in there with Joe, are they?

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Speaker 2: They are good for them. The Vikings picked up their

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Speaker 2: fifty year option on Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of a no brainer.

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Speaker 2: But the Washington commander Steve reports are they are not

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Speaker 2: going to exercise the fifty year option on defensive end

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Speaker 2: Chase Young, who was the second pick in the draft,

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Speaker 2: right behind Joe Burrow in the twenty nineteen draft. So

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Speaker 2: now what is going on there? Are they planning to

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Speaker 2: just go full bore on a contract extension so they're

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Speaker 2: confident they don't need to do the fifty year option.

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Speaker 2: They just handed Deron Pain on the defensive line, the

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Speaker 2: defensive tackle, a four year and ninety million dollar deal.

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Speaker 2: Are they ready to pony up giant money for Chase

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Speaker 2: Young who is coming off an ACL injury And maybe

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Speaker 2: that's the rub here. Well, he didn't play at all

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Speaker 2: last year coming off the ACL, so maybe they're saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know what, let's do the wait and see thing.

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Speaker 2: Everybody thought Bryce Young was the lock. There after he

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Speaker 2: I wonder how much the twenty eighteen draft class is

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Speaker 2: We were all like, come again, right, the barely six

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Speaker 1: The Anthony Richardson of the twenty eighteen draft went to

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Speaker 1: I don't know that Will Levis falls exactly into that,

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Speaker 2: Zero of that and less of that. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Now that's not price, that's not price here. I'm just

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Speaker 2: Well, let's guys like that. Let's not forget Will Levis

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Speaker 1: So what's the problem, That's right. You got to get

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Speaker 2: You're a scout, could what went down over there?

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Speaker 1: They played better with him in the game than they

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Speaker 3: And coaches don't mess around with that stuff.

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Speaker 1: They got no time.

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Speaker 3: They have to win games.

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Speaker 1: They got no time to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, So it's you get to I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure every scout that had that territory and had

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Speaker 2: They know what really happened because they talked to enough

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Speaker 1: Right. Plus, he may be a different guy now two

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 2: He learned from that right and became a better It.

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Speaker 1: Could be that just you know, he just wasn't ready

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Speaker 1: And I told you that I want to say this, Brownie,

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Speaker 1: months now waiting on this to happen. It's so interesting

437
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Speaker 1: to me. One of the most interesting things about this

438
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: season in this draft, and we'll see it for the

439
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: three days of the draft, is we see all these

440
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: football teams. They are all this you know he got.

441
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: They all have the same positions. They have quarterback or

442
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 1: looking for a quarterback, or running back or line back.

443
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: They're all this. They played the same sport and they

444
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 1: all look the same except for their uniform colors when

445
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: they hit the field. But the draft lets everybody see

446
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: how different each of these football teams are. Every franchise,

447
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: while they're all run by the same league, have the

448
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: same thing. They're all completely different in a lot of ways.

449
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: And the draft is a study in contrast of philosophies, techniques, protocols,

450
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: voices in the room, who listens to who, how they

451
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: do their jobs, and how they get to the point

452
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: of building their football team the way they want it

453
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: are vastly different. And I think it's the most fascinating

454
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Speaker 1: part of the entire process.

455
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Speaker 2: The draft is the highlighted text in the book of

456
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Speaker 2: how each of these thirty two teams.

457
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Speaker 1: That's exactly right, they are the look at the Rams

458
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: seven years in a row, no first round draft. Yeah

459
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 1: they don't care. Yeah they're an after They literally do

460
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: not care. They do not care. And then you've got

461
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: other teams that got twelve picks, and you have teams

462
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: that fit in that box. If you were a kid

463
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: watching Sesame Street and they put the four boxes up

464
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: on the screen and they have four kids doing things,

465
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 1: and they'd start the song. One of these kids is

466
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: doing his own thing. One of these kids is.

467
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: Not the same, right, And that's the New England Patriots

468
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: in the draft, because what they do is completely different

469
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 2: from what everybody else does. And they think they've got

470
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: it figured out because they keep on doing it.

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Speaker 1: They yeah, it's there's other examples. That is the most

472
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Speaker 1: fascinating part about the entire weekend is when you step

473
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Speaker 1: back and look at everything. It's it's always it's like

474
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: a horse race where you've got the racing form before.

475
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: After the race, it's always like, oh, yeah, I should

476
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: have figured that out. You know, you go back and say, well,

477
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: this guy's good. Un you can do that in a

478
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: racing form post race. And that's in this draft. It's

479
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: like that to.

480
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: A degree, right, because I'm telling you right now, at

481
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 2: least in a horse race, everybody's racing a horse. In

482
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: the draft, there are people I think you're better off

483
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: racing with a hippopotamus, you're right, or a jack rabbit.

484
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, or Cole Strange. Right that I will never forget that.

485
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: The Sean Sean McVay busts out lap. They called they

486
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: they're doing a live interview and they say, didn't have

487
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: any picks? Again, have any picks one? Sean McVay looks

488
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: like you've been drinking. He's like any sitting there and

489
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: they say that the Patriots picked Cole Strange and he

490
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: he goes burst out because what I guess he's not

491
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: gonna be there one o one is he? He thought

492
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: he thought Cole Strange was on the table for them

493
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: at the third round. And I'll say another thing. There's

494
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: a video like the Bills have this show called Embedded

495
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: and the Patriots. A lot of teams do. It's it's

496
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: best practice. Everybody has this.

497
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Speaker 2: Embedded behind the they showed you behind.

498
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Speaker 1: They kind of give you an idea. They're gonna, you know,

499
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: let you behind the curtain of your favorite team. Bill Belichick,

500
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: they call Cole Strange in the first round.

501
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, when they're getting ready to make the pick.

502
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna make the pick. I don't know who he is.

503
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: I don't know the man's name. I don't know the

504
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: man's name, but I know this. He's the guy. It's

505
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: the guy that gets cold Strange on the phone. And

506
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick walks over. He's gonna talk to the first

507
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: round draft pick of the new New England Patriots for

508
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: the first time and let him know he's been drafted.

509
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: The guy that hands the phone to Bill Belichick looks

510
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: like his entire family was just killed by an ax murderer.

511
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: He can't even he can't even look at it. But

512
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: he can't even look at Bill Belichick. He hands him

513
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: the phone like that, he can't even it looks like

514
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: he's about to puke. That to me was the highlight

515
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: of the draft.

516
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta say I enjoyed it thoroughly, just

517
00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: looking at that guy because I expression handing the like

518
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, because you always think.

519
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: I always thought, well, maybe they know the guy, they're

520
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: gonna like him, whatever, And so I'm and all of

521
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, some of the guys in the Patriot War

522
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: Room thought, like everybody else thought, like, we could have

523
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: got the guy the day after tomorrow. What you right?

524
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, his face says, I can't believe we picked this.

525
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: It's yeah, he says, Uh, we're actually gonna go through

526
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: with this. Yeah, he's handing the phone.

527
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: Uh, it just went in the corner.

528
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 3: It was curled up.

529
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: And that's that's the fascinating thing about this, this draft

530
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: and how it happens every year.

531
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Speaker 2: It's not all horses.

532
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: There's surprises and stuff, and you know, they'll tell you,

533
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: everybody will tell you what we've got. We've only got

534
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: twenty guys with first round grades. And I've been told

535
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: that some some teams believe that if you get twenty

536
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: guys that have a first round grade that's high, that's

537
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: a lot. That's a lot. Most of them are like fifteen.

538
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I've heard, what I've heard from the people

539
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 2: I've talked to around the league is fifteen to seventeen

540
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: is the going range that you can that you can

541
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 2: consistently stamp. Every Every team in the league has fifteen

542
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: to seventeen at least.

543
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: And it may and that may you may have more.

544
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: That may be a span of thirty names, because some

545
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: will Yeah, it's not the same, it's not the same fifteen,

546
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: So they'll have fifteen guys. And what that means is

547
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: of those those fifteen guys are guys that most teams

548
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: believe will step in day one and take snaps and

549
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: be on the field offense, defense, whatever position that is.

550
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: That's what a first to me, that's what a first

551
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: rounder is. A guy who's going to be a really

552
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: good pro from day one and be ready for the

553
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: NFL when they snap it up for training camp. That's

554
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: what a first round grade is to me. Now there's

555
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: a range in there. What other people think of first

556
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: round grade is and and their teams are all different

557
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: than mine. But that's it. Oh, there is gonna be

558
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: some variants, and there's gonna be some surprises.

559
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: More than people anticipate.

560
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: But there is a wider range of opinion on a

561
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: lot of these players, from the very top to the bottom.

562
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: So you know it that there's gonna be four or

563
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: five instances tomorrow night where we go WHOA, I wasn't

564
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: expecting to hear that name yet, Right, that's gonna happen

565
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: multiple times, particularly in.

566
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Speaker 1: The second half of the first round.

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00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: Correct, let's set the table before we go to break

568
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: for you though, we know that the draft happens tomorrow night.

569
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Speaker 2: So what is your last minute reminder for GM Brandon

570
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: Being ahead of the twenty twenty three NFL Draft, what's

571
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: the last you got a chance? Ten seconds? You got

572
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: ten seconds, you know you got fifty You got your

573
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: elevator pitch to Brandon Beer. You're in an elevator with

574
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean today. What's the last reminder you want to

575
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: give him heading into the draft? Eight oh three oh

576
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: five fifty fifty one eight eight five point fifty two

577
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: five fifty.

578
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: The number to get on board?

579
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Speaker 2: You give us your last minute reminder for GM Brandon

580
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: Bean for the draft tomorrow. We take a break. Here

581
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Speaker 2: we're back with your phone calls and tweets. Next on

582
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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

583
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Speaker 2: All right, back here on one Bill's Live, we're asking

584
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: you what's your last minute reminder for GM Brandon Bean

585
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: ahead of tomorrow's NFL draft. We go to the phones

586
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: and Johnny at work is leading us off.

587
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: What do you got for us?

588
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 6: Johnny, I got a solution for your bird problem.

589
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, late on me man.

590
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 6: Okay, buddy, this is what you need to do. Find

591
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 6: the most colorful rubber snake that you can find. You know,

592
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 6: they cost like fifty cents.

593
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, at the Dollar Story you can get them.

594
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, Get a couple of rubber snakes and some

595
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 6: tack them where you don't want them to go, and

596
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 6: they won't go there.

597
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: All right, that's a good one. I like that.

598
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: That's a lot cheaper than my bird spikes.

599
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: Thank you much. I appreciate it.

600
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 6: You probably can't do it now though, the babies will die,

601
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 6: so but for next springing to work?

602
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well they don't. Yeah, they don't have any

603
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: I didn't let them set the nest up, so I'm good.

604
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: I swept the nest away before they roosted, shall we say,

605
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: and laid anything, so I think we're in good shape.

606
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: But thanks for that. I'll try that.

607
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: I thought about rubber snakes.

608
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: I don't know why I didn't go through with that.

609
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: I just got frustrated this morning and bought bird spikes,

610
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: which are on the way of the house.

611
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: Let's go to Joe and Batavian X What do you

612
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: have for us?

613
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 4: Joe, Hey, I had a thought about the XFL. The

614
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 4: first few games didn't really impress me that much, but

615
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, about the last four weeks,

616
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 4: these guys really got their acts together. Very good games,

617
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 4: very entertaining, a lot of people are showing up, and

618
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that, you know, the Brandon would take a

619
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 4: look at the receiver tight ends some of the linemen,

620
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 4: because hey, those guys really know the score of you know,

621
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 4: and it's not I'm talking about the game, but I'm

622
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 4: talking about their career. And now, you know, I mean,

623
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 4: this is the time they can really show Brandon and

624
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: the coaches and everybody else. Hey, I got my act together.

625
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 4: It might have taken me a few wax, right, side

626
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 4: of the head. But you know, I mean these guys,

627
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 4: you know, you don't know what you're getting from college,

628
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 4: and these guys right here, I mean, hey, they're playing

629
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 4: their hearts out. So I was just wondering, you know,

630
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 4: if you guys were you know, we're watching any of

631
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 4: it to please you know, Let's see what Brannan's got

632
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 4: to say.

633
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Joe, I'll say this. There's no question the

634
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: Bills are all over the XFL, as every NFL and

635
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: the us and the USFL as well. They are hovering

636
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: around those rosters. Uh, they got it. Now if they

637
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: if they're under contract with another football team, they can't

638
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: sign them, but they will, No, they'll have a file

639
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: on all of those guys. Don't think that the Bills

640
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: don't have a you know, their finger on the pulse

641
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: of what's going on in the in the XFL or

642
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: the USFL.

643
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: While the CFL does have restrictions on players leaving for

644
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: the NFL, you know, based on time of the year,

645
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: if they're in season, all of that stuff, the XFL,

646
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: to my knowledge, does not have any of those restrictions.

647
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: They do allow a pathway to the NFL. That's half

648
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: the reason they can attract players in the first place

649
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: because they know they can use it as a springboard

650
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: to the NFL. And you're right, it does more resemble

651
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: the pro game than college does for a lot of

652
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: those players. And yes, the Bills and every other team

653
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Speaker 2: in the NFL are scouting those leagues with people. They've

654
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Speaker 2: got people watching those games checking on talent. They wouldn't

655
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Speaker 2: be doing their job if they didn't.

656
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they know who those guys are. They're pro personnel people.

657
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: They look at the the other NFL teams, they look

658
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: at the USFL and the XFL. They absolutely and you're right,

659
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: and you're right there. They know more about the XFL

660
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: guys and the USFL guys than they do the college

661
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: kids because they've seen them play at the pro level

662
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: and they've probably most of the guys in those leagues

663
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Speaker 1: have been through at least a training camp with an

664
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Speaker 1: NFL team, So they know some things about those guys

665
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Speaker 1: that they can't find out about the college guys yet.

666
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Speaker 1: So you do have that right.

667
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: Now, back to the phones into Danny in San Antonio.

668
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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

669
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Speaker 7: Danny, Hey, Brownie, hate Steve, how y'all doing good?

670
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Speaker 1: Good?

671
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

672
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Speaker 8: I just wanted to say.

673
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Speaker 7: What I would remind being is last year, I mean,

674
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 7: he pulled that blogbuster deal with Vaughn and look how

675
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 7: that impacted the defense. And maybe it's trying to do

676
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 7: that on the offensive side, whether it be you know,

677
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 7: wishful thinking with Henry or Hopkins or some other established player.

678
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Speaker 7: I think that would really help out the team this year.

679
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: All right, So you're swinging for a veteran and you

680
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: want to tell him not to rule that out, all right,

681
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: fair enough. Yeah, the Hopkins rumors are still circulating out there.

682
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: We saw a report today that basically said the anticipation

683
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Speaker 2: is Hopkins will be moved before the weekend is over.

684
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I also heard that, you know, Brian Dayball

685
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: and the Giant guys are interested in de Hop as

686
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Speaker 1: you would expect. I think there's a ton of people

687
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Speaker 1: interested in him, but they got to get the money

688
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: right and it's got to be the right trade value

689
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Speaker 1: for that team and for the Arizona Cardinals too. So

690
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Speaker 1: Brian and I we're talking. De hop can play. We

691
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Speaker 1: all know that. I still think he's got some football

692
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Speaker 1: in him. He catches the ball extremely well. He's he's

693
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: been a guy who's been a separator and a fifty

694
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Speaker 1: to fifty ball winner all his career. He catches everything

695
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Speaker 1: and he gets separation. He can, Yes, he catches it

696
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Speaker 1: in traffic, you know, maybe as good as there's ever

697
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: been a contested catches. And he's a guy like Steph

698
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 1: Diggs who when the chips are down, throw me the ball.

699
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: I will let I will make the play. Those kind

700
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Speaker 1: of guys. You love those guys so and there's a

701
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Speaker 1: lot of mutual respect in the room for a guy

702
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: like Steph, would have for d Hop and d hop

703
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: for Steph and once again not forget. The Bills have

704
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Speaker 1: a guy that other players want to play for and

705
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: play with, and that's Josh Allen. Guys want to catch

706
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: his football. They know that they got a shot at

707
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: the ring with him. Yeah, so you know that's it's

708
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: He's an attraction.

709
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Speaker 2: What is your last minute reminder for GM Brandon being

710
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Speaker 2: ahead of the NFL Draft? Back to the phones into

711
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: Nick and North Carolina. Next, what do you got for.

712
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 9: His nicky gentlemen? How are you good? Last minute reminder?

713
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 9: Simple slot receiver? You saw what happen last year with

714
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Speaker 9: and the high number of interceptions Cole Beasley comes to mind.

715
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Speaker 9: So without a doubt, slot receiver I think is the

716
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Speaker 9: biggest issue in need right now that they need to fill.

717
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 9: Whether they call coleback or not is yet to be seen,

718
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Speaker 9: but slot receiver, without a doubt, Josh's best season came

719
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Speaker 9: when Cole Beasley was manning the slot, and you can't

720
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Speaker 9: make up for the back to back seasons that Cole

721
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Speaker 9: had eighty two receptions in both twenty and twenty one.

722
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Speaker 9: And I think Josh, you know, with the doubling of

723
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Speaker 9: Bigs and Davis being taken out of a mix, they

724
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Speaker 9: had no true slot receiver last year. iMac only had

725
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Speaker 9: forty five receptions in Jamison Crowder, who had a lengthy

726
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Speaker 9: history of injuries, was a disappointment. So I'm not sure

727
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Speaker 9: if Sherfield is going to man that or sure, but

728
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Speaker 9: certainly last minute or minder Brandon would be slot receiver.

729
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Speaker 9: Helped Josh again good good And.

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Speaker 1: I also think not only is Trent Surefield a candidate

731
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Speaker 1: for that, so is Deontay Hardy from New Orleans. So

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Speaker 1: they've got two guys that came in and I'll say this,

733
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Speaker 1: don't forget at the end of last year when the

734
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Speaker 1: Chips were on the line. It was Khalil Shakir on

735
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Speaker 1: the slot. It wasn't Cole Beasley. Was it was ISAIAMH.

736
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Speaker 1: Mackenzie was it was Khalil Shakir. Now, uh, you know, uh,

737
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Speaker 1: Cole Beasley was on the field some, but for the most,

738
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Speaker 1: for the Lion's share of the snaps, it was Khalil Shakiruh.

739
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Speaker 1: So they they signed Cole Beasley because they needed they

740
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Speaker 1: needed that season to finish well, of course, and it

741
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Speaker 1: wasn't going well in the slot. It wasn't going well

742
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Speaker 1: in the slot, so they brought Cole Beasley. Crowder got hurt,

743
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Speaker 1: and I'll say it again, I went back and watched

744
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: the games that Crowder played in and he was he

745
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: was doing well. He was playing really well before his

746
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: got his fibula broken. So they yeah, they were missing that,

747
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: no question. I don't think Khalil Shakir was ready to

748
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: play early in the season. By the end of the season,

749
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Speaker 1: I think he was the last man standing and he

750
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: was playing better than Cole Beasley was, So that's why

751
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Speaker 1: he was in.

752
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Speaker 2: Damn makes a good point, though, I mean, Josh's most

753
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: productive seasons came in years when you had a defined

754
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 2: answer in the slot in the form of Cole Beasley.

755
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Speaker 2: You have to find another defined answer there because one

756
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Speaker 2: of the best things that Beasley did was beat the blitz.

757
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 2: You know, you had third and six, Maybe you want

758
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: a bigger play down the field, but if you've got

759
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Speaker 2: a blitz bearing down on you, you know you have

760
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Speaker 2: Beasley as an option underneath. That was a valuable check down, safety, valve,

761
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Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it option within the scope

762
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Speaker 2: of the passing game. And so now what does that

763
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: do that gets defense is to back off with the blitz.

764
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Speaker 3: You can't be as aggressive.

765
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Speaker 2: Now maybe you put another guy in coverage and try

766
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 2: to defeat it that way, and you're only rushing three.

767
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: Now Josh has more time to make plays down the

768
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: field that was absent last year in the offense. So

769
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: getting that back, I agree. I think it would be

770
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: a great idea. Who fills it is the big question.

771
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Speaker 2: Is it somebody new in the draft. Is it somebody

772
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Speaker 2: that's already on your roster that you just added in

773
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Speaker 2: free agency, Sherfield Hardy or is it Khalil Shakier in

774
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 2: year too.

775
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Speaker 1: I think a guy that's getting overlooked in this is Sherfield.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm really interested.

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Speaker 3: He's sat here and told us he was going to

778
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Speaker 3: see some time in this life.

779
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Speaker 1: Because I'm really interested in that. Because Sherfield really had

780
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Speaker 1: his best years of pro last year with Jalen Waddle

781
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: and Tyreek Hill. I mean, he carved out a niche

782
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: in the Miami offense with those two guys and a

783
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: lot of other receiving talents on that and Gasiki on

784
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: that roster. Surefield, he's got a chance, you know, with

785
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: some more opportunity that there's no way he was going

786
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: to get in Miami with with Hill and Waddle. Surefield,

787
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Speaker 1: I think you gotta really tip your hat to what

788
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: he was able to do down there. I'm excited to

789
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: see him get a wider range of opportunities in the

790
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: Bills offense than he got in Miami, and he shined

791
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: down there. So I think it's really interesting. And of

792
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: course Deontay Hardy, who is I think an upgrade over

793
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: the skill set that Isaiah mackenzie brought to the table.

794
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: Let's go to Frank in Mississippi. Here, Frank, what do

795
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 2: you got for us?

796
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 6: You're on?

797
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me pull you up. Come on, here

798
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: we go. You're on one.

799
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: Bill's Live what do you got for us, Frank.

800
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 10: My old boys.

801
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: You're right, go ahead, man.

802
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 10: So my last minute thing is, uh, don't discount the veteran.

803
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 7: And remember that this is an arms race.

804
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 10: I'd like him to see maybe into uh a d

805
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 10: hop isn't isn't it available? Isn't the thing is?

806
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 6: In reality?

807
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 8: Jerry Judy has been talked about all season and kind

808
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 8: of been that sneaky dark horse signing that Brandon Bean loves.

809
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 10: And I have one more thing.

810
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 7: I really have to and I hate to bring this

811
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 7: back up, but I hated that comment that Jay made yesterday.

812
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 4: I really did.

813
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 7: It sounded like Jay didn't know anything about teams or

814
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 7: or being part of a team.

815
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 8: And as a as.

816
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 10: A Marine Corps veteran three tours of duty, I have

817
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 10: to say.

818
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 11: I feel like I know enough about it. But in

819
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 11: Jay's defense.

820
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 8: We lost a lot of brothers over there, and.

821
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Speaker 11: We did have to get the mission done.

822
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Speaker 7: I'd like to see them recenter, refocus, and make this

823
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 7: the year that they get the mission done.

824
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. Amen to that, Frank, and thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks

825
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: for your service.

826
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, it did. They did get sabotage last year.

827
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: I think a little bit by the emotional toll it

828
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: took on him to finish the season, after the five

829
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: Arteam shooting, after Kimla's thing, after Dawson Knox lost his

830
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: brother Luke, and then of course DeMar Hamlin. I mean,

831
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: you know then they.

832
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: Mentioned two snowstorms.

833
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,280
Speaker 1: You're locating relocated games. It was one thing after another

834
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: last year, culminated by having to watch a teammate and

835
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: a really close friend die right in front of him

836
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: and then get resuscitated and then lose then have to

837
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: play at the culminate game of their season against the

838
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: same team that that happened with two weeks or three

839
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: weeks before. It's an impossible task. And you're right. When

840
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: you spend time with a group of guys the way

841
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: these guys do, that's hard. That's really hard. And so

842
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: we we do that. And I'll say this again, it

843
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: isn't an arms race. It is an arms race, Frank,

844
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: and I would agree with you. De Hops is an

845
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: OPE option. So is Jerry Judy. Yeah, he's been out there,

846
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: but I'm sure they kicked the tires on him.

847
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing.

848
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: The latest on Jerry Judy and the Denver Broncos is

849
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: Sean Payton doesn't want to give up any of his

850
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: receiver talent. The reason why is the Denver Broncos don't

851
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: pick until the third round in this draft. They gave

852
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: up all their draft capital to get Russell Wilson. They

853
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: don't have any picks in round one or two. So

854
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: the thought of giving up a veteran receiver to try

855
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: to get one in the draft by getting draft captain

856
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: this year, I don't think it's gonna happen. I think

857
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: Sean Payton has made it clear to the brass there.

858
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: Don't get rid of my receiver talent, right because we're

859
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: not gonna do better in the draft. But anyway, and

860
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 2: we don't pick until round three.

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00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Frank, it's an arms race. Let's let's

862
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: focus on on the offense in this draft on the

863
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: high end.

864
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: Break time for us, but more of your phone calls

865
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: when we return here on one Bill's Live, Stay tuned.

866
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: What's your last minute reminder for GM Brandon being ahead

867
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 2: of tomorrow night's NFL Draft. Back to the phones and

868
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: to Dave in Clarence, what do you got for us?

869
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Speaker 11: Dave out a great show with a real great question.

870
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 11: Here's my suggestion to our Lestre's GM, I would trade

871
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 11: with Arizona for the first round this year, and in exchange,

872
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 11: I would give them my first round and third round

873
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 11: this year, and I would give them my second round

874
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 11: next year in exchange for d Hopkins, and with that

875
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 11: third pick in the first round this year, I would

876
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 11: get a defensive stud to replace Ed Oliver that I

877
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 11: would throw in this year at the sweeten the pie

878
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 11: and use that ten million from him to use it

879
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 11: to start negotiating for a new contract with D Hopkins.

880
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 8: Okay, I'll hang up.

881
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 1: I don't think i'll say this. Thanks, I got a David.

882
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: I don't think that it's going to take that much.

883
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: You're talking about a first, a third, second, and Ed

884
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: Oliver for D hop Yeah, that'll get it done. But

885
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 1: I don't want to think that much that you don't

886
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: give you that much.

887
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: Now, if you're swapping ones to get up to three,

888
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: you know you pay at twenty seven.

889
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: You got to give something else. You know, ed Oliver

890
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:04,479
Speaker 3: is an option.

891
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if they want to inherit a ten

892
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: point seven million dollar contract even though Ed Oliver is

893
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: a young player, because they're trying to get rid of

894
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 2: salary to begin with. That's half the reason they're getting

895
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: rid of d Hops. So I don't and not to

896
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: mention the fact that you now be saddled with signing

897
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 2: him to a long term contract extension at Oliver I'm

898
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: talking about so yeah, I mean, I appreciato that much.

899
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: I appreciate what you're trying to do there. I don't

900
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: know if it's going to take that much. It may

901
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: just take a three or a four. That is, get

902
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 2: Hopkins to me, because they know the money is an

903
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: impingement for whoever is getting DeAndre Hopkins.

904
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: Let me take.

905
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: They can't ask for a lot.

906
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: I just think I just think that's too much to

907
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: give up for him.

908
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree.

909
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: I think that's too much to give up. I get it,

910
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: it would happen, the deal would happen, no quote. I

911
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: think you're giving them to one a first, a second,

912
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 1: and a third and Oliver, it's too much.

913
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, that's too much.

914
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: It had the only reason it hasn't happened yet is

915
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: because for the Bills or anybody else for that matter,

916
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: is because the money is the biggest stumbling block for

917
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 2: a thirty one year old receiver. Thirty four million dollars

918
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: left on his contract and only two years in which

919
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: to spread that money out. It's it's cost prohibitive right now.

920
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: So unless there's a way to find it to make

921
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: it cost beneficial and worth the value of inheriting a

922
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: player of his caliber, it's not gonna happen. The Cardinals

923
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: know this, so not gonna be able to ask for

924
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: a king's ransom for a thirty one year old guy

925
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 2: who costs too much money. So it's not gonna take

926
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: nearly what you're willing to offer them. I'm sure the

927
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 2: Cardinals be over the moon if you were the Bills GM,

928
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 2: but it's not gonna take that much.

929
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: I would think more realistically it would be a third.

930
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: Third might get it done. They're asking for a two

931
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: is all the reports what the reports are indicating, But

932
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: figure out the money.

933
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: It could be a third and a conditional two.

934
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: If he has ten touchdowns or something.

935
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you put some qualifier on that. If he does this,

936
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: this or this, you get a second instead of a third.

937
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: But and then if he does do those things, you

938
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: don't care if you give up a saying because the

939
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 1: guy killed it, so yeah that, yeah, you're right, Dave.

940
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: You give him a first, a first, a third this

941
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: year and next year's second. That's great, Craig, that deal

942
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: is gonna get done. Yeah, and they will not be

943
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 1: able to wait to do that deal.

944
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones. Let's go to Mark

945
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: in West Seneca.

946
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 12: Guys, how are you good?

947
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 5: Steve?

948
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 12: Please educate everybody again like you tried to do yesterday

949
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 12: with Jay about the Bills offense and being the second

950
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 12: highest scoring offense in the league last year. This wide

951
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 12: receiver proceed extreme need for another weapon wide receiver by

952
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 12: the fans is driving me crazy. My message, and I'm

953
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 12: sure Brandon knows this is. Whatever the perceived need is

954
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 12: for another weapon, and another wide receiver does not elevate

955
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 12: the talent level of the wide receiver group in this draft,

956
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 12: causing you to overdraft or reach for anybody. We always

957
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 12: can use another weapon, That's not what I'm saying. If

958
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 12: we can bring in a veteran guy, a d hop

959
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 12: or by some miracle or a duty, that's awesome. But please,

960
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 12: we have a rest of a football team to also

961
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 12: supply players to and do not tell short a guy

962
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 12: that we could really use. That really is warranted. Twenty seven,

963
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 12: or even a high number two if you move down

964
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 12: because there's this crazy perceived need of needing another weapon.

965
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 12: You can name three guys on our offense from last

966
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 12: year that, in my opinion, if they would have been

967
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 12: used better or properly, we would have scored even more points.

968
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 12: And that's Hines, Cook and Dawson Knox. With better usage

969
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 12: of those guys week to week or even better without

970
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 12: even adding another weapons. So that's my opinion on our offense.

971
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 12: We got Josh, We have a lot of talent. It

972
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 12: is not an urgent, urgent, urgent need that we drafted

973
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 12: a wide out number one.

974
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 5: Thanks guys.

975
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 2: Thanks Mark.

976
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: I would I agree with you, Mark, I've been pounding

977
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: on this drum. The Bills scored more points than thirty

978
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: other teams in the league. In the thirty two team

979
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 1: league last year. They were number two overall in points

980
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: and they were number two overall in points allowed. On

981
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, there's not too many holes

982
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: in this roster, particularly offensively. Now you can make up

983
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: case for Tremaine Edmonds and I'll listen to it, no

984
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: question about it. But on the offensive side of the ball,

985
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: what they've done already in free agency has made them

986
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: better offensively on a team that was really good a

987
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: year ago.

988
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: And their running back contingent is That's what I'm saying,

989
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 2: dramatically upgraded the better, not only because Cook is going

990
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: to actually get on the field more and do more

991
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: things to make plays on this offense, but because you

992
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: have Damien Harris, who's an upgrade over mootor singletary, flat out,

993
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 2: point blank period. We got to take a break here,

994
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: but when we come back, it's our final edition of

995
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 2: Mock Draft Watch with our colleague Matty Glad to break

996
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: it all down for us. What are the final mocks

997
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 2: saying about pick twenty seven? We'll tell you next here

998
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo

999
00:51:27,280 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 2: Bill's Radio.

1000
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

1001
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live on Draft Day Eve, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker,

1002
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 2: and Bill's reporter Maddy Glab joining us for the ultimate

1003
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: and final Mock Draft Watch edition. What are the final

1004
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: mocks before the draft saying about the Bills pick at

1005
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: number twenty seven? Maddie, take it away. Have we seen

1006
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 2: a shift of any kind? You're in the final edition.

1007
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 13: It's It's been a little wild out here, and I

1008
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 13: just have to say I have an addiction to these

1009
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 13: mock drafts. I'm at that point where there's going to

1010
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 13: be several more that come out throughout the day and

1011
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 13: even tomorrow morning, and we're releasing this on the website tomorrow.

1012
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 13: But I'm like, when do I stop tracking these? I'm

1013
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 13: at it. I have one hundred and seventy one tracks

1014
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 13: right now, So I'm going through in my mind the

1015
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 13: war of do I keep going until late tonight, do

1016
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 13: I stop now? Do I even go until tomorrow morning.

1017
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 13: I think I'm at a good place now with what

1018
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 13: we've seen that we may be done here, but who knows,

1019
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 13: because I'm a crazy person. But we've tracked one hundred

1020
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 13: and seventy one mock drafts total. Of those, one seventy

1021
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 13: one guys running back, offensive line. Those were the favorite

1022
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 13: positions being mocked to the Bills. And in the eleventh hour,

1023
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 13: the wide receiver comes out of not nowhere because it

1024
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 13: makes sense, but wide receiver is now the favorite position

1025
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 13: being mocked to the Bills at forty one times, and

1026
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 13: this is really shot up. In the last few weeks.

1027
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 13: We've seen linebackers a lot. We've seen wide receivers a lot,

1028
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 13: but in the most recent mock Draft Watch Mock Draft Watch,

1029
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 13: ten point zero wide receivers stand head and shoulders above

1030
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 13: any other position group. So we tracked eighteen and the

1031
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 13: latest mock Draft Watch, and of those eighteen, thirteen times

1032
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 13: a wide receiver was mocked to the Bills.

1033
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: Is there one name in particular?

1034
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 13: The names have kind of been divvied out. There hasn't

1035
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 13: been a crazy favorite among those wide receivers. Jordan Addison

1036
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 13: has been mocked to the Bills three times in the

1037
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 13: latest eighteen, Zay Flowers three times, Quinton Johnston two times,

1038
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 13: and Josh Downs two times. Those are the favorites in

1039
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 13: the last eighteen that we've tracked.

1040
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: That's pretty balanced.

1041
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 13: Though pretty balanced, I thought Jordan Addison would have more.

1042
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 13: I think if you look at the last thirty to

1043
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 13: forty mock drafts tracked, Jordan Addison would definitely be the

1044
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 13: favorite because he has just been a name that's been

1045
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 13: showing up in almost every mock Draft Watch that we've released,

1046
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 13: and a name that's showed up multiple times. But of

1047
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 13: those last eighteen that I've tracked, two offensive tackles, one

1048
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 13: defensive tackle, one linebacker, and one defensive tackle. No running backs.

1049
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 14: This is the first.

1050
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 13: Time that we've done a mock draft watch where I

1051
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 13: have not seen a running back be mocked to the Bills.

1052
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 2: So today, just cruising around on social media, I saw

1053
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 2: this report from someone who's supposedly in the know, and

1054
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 2: they're saying, if you get down to the Bills at

1055
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: twenty seven and there's no value at their need positions,

1056
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: do not rule out Jamiir Gibbs. And I'm like, oh

1057
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 2: my gosh, here we go. All this time we're here

1058
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: talking about no on Bejon Robinson, and now eleventh hour

1059
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 2: they're like, oh yeah, well Bjean'll be gone. Now here's Jamark.

1060
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: Now they're want to throw is Jamiir Gibbs.

1061
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: It's like, come on, they're not taking They're not taking

1062
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: Jamiir Gibbs. They got Damien Harris and James Cook and

1063
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: not him, hind they ain't going anywhere near that spot.

1064
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: I don't think.

1065
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 2: I hope.

1066
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: I mean they may, what do I know, But there's

1067
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: no way, not given, not given the twenty seventh guy

1068
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: in the draft that's gonna be available, they're gonna be

1069
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: able to get a really good wide out. They're gonna

1070
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: be able to get a really good make even a

1071
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 1: really good edge rusher, defensive tackle. Those positions are more likely,

1072
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: even given the last three or four drafts that they've

1073
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: taken a defensive end in each one of them. Even

1074
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: that's more likely than a running back to me, and

1075
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: it's also more likely than a middle linebacker.

1076
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, where are we on the linebacker train, Maddie?

1077
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 13: So on the linebacker train, I'll talk overall mock drafts here.

1078
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 13: So anytime we're saying numbers or people players, it's one

1079
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 13: hundred and seventy one total that I tracked far more

1080
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 13: in February, March, and April than January. We started tracking

1081
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 13: these late January after our season wrapped up, so we

1082
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 13: saw a lot more in the last three months versus

1083
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 13: the last four months. So, linebacker, where does linebacker fit

1084
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 13: into this conversation? A linebacker was mocked to the Bills

1085
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 13: twenty seven times. That is the tied for the third

1086
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 13: favorite position group. Okay, so it goes forty one for

1087
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 13: wide receiver, forty for offensive linemen, and if you break

1088
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 13: it down, twenty six interior offensive line and fourteen offensive tackles,

1089
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 13: twenty seven running back. Twenty seven times a running back

1090
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 13: was mocked to the Bills, and twenty seven times a

1091
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 13: linebacker was mocked to the Bills. Next is defensive back,

1092
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 13: and then defensive line has eleven. Tight end only three times.

1093
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think d line is kind of a sneaky one.

1094
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 13: I think so too.

1095
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: We pick twenty seven because we were Steve and I

1096
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: were talking about this yesterday. I think there is a

1097
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 2: general belief that a lot of the offensive value is

1098
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: going to be off the board by the time the

1099
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 2: Bills are on the clock, if they if in fact,

1100
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: they stay at twenty seven, and so the value on

1101
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: the board at that time Steve and I were talking

1102
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: about this, We kind of think it's going to push

1103
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: the Bills towards a defensive player. Now, it may not

1104
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 2: necessarily be a linebacker. Maybe the value is even better

1105
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: at an edge rush position or a defensive tackle position.

1106
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: And you think about what could be down there based

1107
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: on all the mocks that you've tracked, and it seems

1108
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: like the value was greater at those three positions than

1109
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: at any offensive position.

1110
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 13: In the last few that I've looked at today and yesterday.

1111
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 13: I mean, I've seen Colijah Cansy fall far. I've seen

1112
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 13: Mazzy Smith fall far. I've seen Miles Murphy fall far.

1113
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 13: I've seen other defensive tackles fall beyond where they were

1114
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 13: being mocked to these teams. I would say a couple

1115
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 13: months ago, even a month ago, Brian Berzee seems to

1116
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 13: be available there, definitely, Mazzi Smith, as I said, Nolan

1117
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 13: Smith also has been around there, and in one that

1118
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 13: I looked at recently today, he was available for the

1119
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 13: bills to take and I think he went number thirty

1120
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 13: or number thirty one. I can't remember. He's available at

1121
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 13: the end. I don't know if I see that happening, I.

1122
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 3: Can't get myself excited too.

1123
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 13: But I've seen I've seen Calijah Cancy kind of around

1124
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 13: the twenties. You know, that's in the last few that

1125
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 13: I've seen.

1126
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 3: That one's interesting.

1127
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: We know that he's not a measurables guy because he

1128
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 2: is kind of in the same size measurables as an

1129
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: at Oliver. I mean, he's got fantastic test numbers that

1130
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 2: he had at the combine and he's been a productive

1131
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: player at Pitt and the less. You know, the latest

1132
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: that we were hearing even last week was that he's

1133
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 2: going to go somewhere.

1134
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 3: Between ten and twenty.

1135
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 2: Now he's some people suddenly think he's going to be

1136
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: available at twenty seven. I mean, that's going to be

1137
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: a tricky conversation for the Bills to have there, because,

1138
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: as we've talked about Steve, all four guys on the

1139
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 2: last year of their contracts at that position for Buffalo.

1140
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: That's it's intriguing, no question about it. Particularly if one

1141
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: of those guys that you don't expect to fall falls, can't.

1142
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 3: See, there's always one or two every year.

1143
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: If Nolan Smith drops.

1144
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

1145
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: I mean you can tell by our reaction we both.

1146
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: Think I'll be stunned.

1147
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,479
Speaker 1: I will too. He's the only way I laugh, because

1148
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: this is what we've been talking about all day. The

1149
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: only way Nolan Smith falls to was is if they

1150
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: get footage of him in a gas mask.

1151
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: That's the only and that probably will not happen because

1152
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: he's clean. He's clean on character as far as I've learned.

1153
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: But you mean, that's how good he is, That's how

1154
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: good he is. Yeah, So if he does fall, take him,

1155
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm fine. I don't care if it is another guy

1156
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: like that, right.

1157
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1158
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 13: I think what could affect this first round, and it's

1159
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 13: something that happened recently. The Packers moving up to thirteen here,

1160
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 13: I think could have a say and when the run

1161
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 13: on wide receivers begins. Because even if you move up

1162
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 13: two spots in this draft, there's what five total wide

1163
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 13: receivers that have that a lot of people have first

1164
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 13: round grades on. And if that run starts just two positions,

1165
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 13: two teams earlier, by the time the Bills are on

1166
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 13: the clock at twenty seven, they could be sitting there

1167
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 13: saying all the wide receivers, including Quentin Johnson, are gone.

1168
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 13: So I think that could definitely happen. Darnell Wright has

1169
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 13: flown up on mock drafts. He's going in the ten

1170
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 13: to fifteen range. Even in some of these mock drafts

1171
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 13: I've seen as high as the Bears at number nine.

1172
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 13: So the offensive tackles and the wide receivers I think

1173
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 13: will have a big say in who's available at twenty

1174
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 13: seven because I could see a run starting earlier for

1175
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 13: the wide receivers. We know some of those offensive tackles

1176
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 13: are going to be off the board very early.

1177
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 2: The Packers are an interesting case study here because obviously

1178
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: they moved up from fifteen to thirteen with the Rogers trade,

1179
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 2: and during Rogers fifteen years as their starting quarterback, they've

1180
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: never taken a receiver in the first round they just

1181
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 2: drafted to last year. Do we honestly think they're going

1182
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: to take Jackson Smith and Jigbat thirteen? Maybe they do.

1183
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: Other people believe because they lost Robert Tanyan the tight end,

1184
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 2: that they're going to take the best tight end in

1185
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 2: the class, Kincaid.

1186
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 3: That's not something they typically do.

1187
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: I would say the traditionalist in me in thinking about

1188
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: what the Packers typically do there. They're going to take

1189
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 2: a tackle, But do they get tempted because I think

1190
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 2: a tackle is going to help Jordan Love just as

1191
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 2: much as a tight end or a receiver. We all

1192
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 2: talk about the arms race that the AFC is and

1193
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 2: the NFC isn't right and the NFC's not. But if

1194
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: you're an AFC team and you kind of got your guys,

1195
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 2: offensive linemen are hard to find because they've got to

1196
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 2: be big and athletic and all this stuff with them,

1197
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: you know, and as we see in this wide receiver

1198
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: class and in this linebacker class and all these guys

1199
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: kind of tend to level out and they're all the same.

1200
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: Guy, at least on paper. So when you're looking for

1201
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: guys with trades, offensive linemen are the ones that you

1202
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: know that you can measure and see. That's why Darnell

1203
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: Wright has skyrocketed on draft boards because you've got these measurables.

1204
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: And then you watch him play and you can see

1205
01:02:55,000 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: his attitude on film. He's got the right attitude, particularly

1206
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: for a right tackle. He's got a mean streak in him.

1207
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: He plays with some grit. It's exactly the kind of

1208
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: person you want in front of your franchise quarterback. That's

1209
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: why he's going up and up and up, because you

1210
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: can see the kind of kid he is by the

1211
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: way he plays, and that's rare, and rare guys are

1212
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: hard to find, particularly with those traits. So yeah, I'm

1213
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm forget the arms race. Offense is an offense. It's

1214
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: gonna help you score one way or the other, even

1215
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: if it's a tackle or a guard, even if it's

1216
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: not a wide receiver.

1217
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: All right, So, Maddie, you mentioned Elijah Canzi is a

1218
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 2: guy that you've seen in the recent mock sliding. Now,

1219
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 2: whether they know something or not remains to be seen.

1220
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: I still think he's going between ten and twenty. Brazil

1221
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: is a guy that seems to be more likely to

1222
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 2: get into the Bills range because he's been mocked in

1223
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 2: the early to mid twenties, so there's not far he

1224
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 2: would have to drop to get to Buffalo. Is he name?

1225
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: How often has he kind of come up as a

1226
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 2: name for the Bills if at all? Because I know

1227
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: you have defensive tackle in there only eleven times. My

1228
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 2: curiosity lies with who are the names that you have

1229
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 2: at defensive tackle? More often than.

1230
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 13: Not, Brian Berzy has been mocked to the Bills only

1231
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 13: a couple times. I would say, of those defensive tackles,

1232
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 13: I've seen Clijah Kanci maybe twice. We really didn't see

1233
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 13: the defensive tackle position honestly start to be mocked to

1234
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 13: the Bills.

1235
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 3: Mazzi Smith was the most popular one, didn't you say that?

1236
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1237
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 13: Until March is when we saw defensive tackles coming along,

1238
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 13: and even more in April. Defensive tackle was only mocked

1239
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 13: to the Bills once in February, and I think only

1240
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 13: twice in February and March combined. As I'm scrolling through.

1241
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 3: My before they had reached Clijah Cantcy.

1242
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 13: Yeah, Claidja Kancy was the first defensive tackle mocked to

1243
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 13: the Bills once free agency started. And then as I

1244
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 13: scrolled down, I did see a trade up to get

1245
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 13: to Colijah Kantci. There is a trade up to get

1246
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 13: to Nolan Smith. So I've seen a couple of trades

1247
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 13: with defensive tackles. Brian Brazi the first time he was

1248
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 13: mocked to the Bills was in April.

1249
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a recent development.

1250
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 13: So he's been more of a recent development. And his name,

1251
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 13: I believe it's only been once or twice that he's

1252
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 13: been mocked to the Bills.

1253
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: But I'm but I'm on the mark with that, right,

1254
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 2: Like we've seen Brazil come off the board more in

1255
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 2: the early to mid twenties. Yes, that's why I just

1256
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 2: think he might have a greater chance of being an option.

1257
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 13: I think he's a chance than Yeah, yeah, that's what

1258
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 13: I've seen. His name way more around when the Bills

1259
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 13: are are available.

1260
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: Even if the Bills do, even when they do pick

1261
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: at twenty seven without trading up, there's going to be

1262
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: a guy available who we've all had conversations about and

1263
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: would be okay with him picking. The problem is there's

1264
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: going to be more than one. There's gonna be like

1265
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: four or five, and then there's gonna be a couple

1266
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: we don't know about. They're gonna have really good careers

1267
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: as pros that you're gonna say, wow, he was available.

1268
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 6: Wow.

1269
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: You know, that's what you always do in these drafts

1270
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: when you go back and look. The question is, you know,

1271
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: can you be objective enough when you're in there making

1272
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: that decision is to say, forget about how badly we

1273
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: need or want a middle linebacker a defensive tackle for

1274
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: next year. This guy's going to be a really good

1275
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: pro and we got to take him right. That's hard

1276
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: to do.

1277
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 2: And I know we were talking earlier in the show

1278
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 2: about whether the gms that need a quarterback in this

1279
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 2: draft are going to be influenced by how the twenty

1280
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 2: eighteen draft played out in Round one when they were

1281
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 2: five quarterbacks who came off the board and how those

1282
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 2: players panned out. Every case is different. I don't think

1283
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 2: we debate about that, but I wonder if defensive tackle

1284
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 2: is an option for the Bills at twenty seven based

1285
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 2: on the value on the board. Are they influenced by

1286
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 2: the way the two twenty nineteen draft unfolded when they

1287
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 2: took an undersized player in Ed Oliver ninth overall, and

1288
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: the following defensive tackles went after him. Christian Wilkins bigger player,

1289
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 2: I would say, better body of work in his time

1290
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 2: in the NFL than at Oliver. That was followed by

1291
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence to the Giants, decent player I think on

1292
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 2: a par with Ed Oliver in terms of what he's

1293
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 2: accomplished in the league. And then nineteenth overall Tennessee Jeffrey Simmons,

1294
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 2: who just signed a Jigundo contract and has been to

1295
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl almost every year he's been in the league. Bigger, girthier,

1296
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Speaker 2: more dominant players than the quick, fast, athletic player. And

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Speaker 2: I wonder if Brandon Bean's influenced by that, and if

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Speaker 2: it is defensive tackle go bigger.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's always that question whether you go traits or

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01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: whether you go body of work, or whether you go

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Speaker 1: the kind of guy.

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Speaker 2: He is or the seat can said.

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Speaker 1: The up side, and particularly so when you look at

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Speaker 1: the quarterback, you got a guy like Anthony Richardson who

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01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,919
Speaker 1: is like the Josh Allen of the twenty twenty three class, right,

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01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: and look what's happened with Josh who's you know, he's

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Speaker 1: in the conversation for MVP at some point every season.

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Speaker 1: You have the same class with Josh was Lamar Jackson,

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01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 1: who is also a little bit of a unicorn like

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. And then you've got guys like Will Levis,

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Speaker 1: who has got a pretty good body work, did some

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Speaker 1: good things, but he's a little bit more like Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's got some things that don't click for

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Speaker 1: him personality wise, or Josh Rosen back in the twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen draft. All these guys that you can The hard

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Speaker 1: part is not mixing guys in together and saying they're

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Speaker 1: like each other, because they're all different. Certainly they display traits,

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Speaker 1: but Will Levis is gonna be who he is. He's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be who Josh Rosen was, or who Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson was, or who Baker Mayfield was. He's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Will Levis and be like all those other guys, but

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have some things he brings to the table.

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01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: You gotta it's so hard to pick guys because as

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01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: much as they look alike, they're gonna be vastly different

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Speaker 1: in your system. For instance, Baker Mayfield might not have

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Speaker 1: been the Baker Mayfield we know and love if he

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Speaker 1: would have gotten picked by Carolina that year instead of

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: Right, or it is where you land and the development

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Speaker 2: and the player development skills of the staff around you.

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Speaker 2: There's no question about that.

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Speaker 1: Josh is Josh is proof of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian Table got him right.

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Speaker 1: They got it, and they said, you know, they built

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Speaker 1: a village around Josh that first year, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, not an offensive line, but they did the

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Speaker 2: following year. Yeah, because you remember how bad the offensive

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Speaker 2: line was in eighteen.

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Speaker 1: But they did put some guys around him, even even

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Speaker 1: the guy you know everybody hate, you know, Nathan Peterman

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01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: was a was a quality guy to have there with

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Speaker 1: Josh to help him, and then with with Dorsey being

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Speaker 1: the smart guy he was. Although was he there his

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Speaker 1: first year.

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Speaker 2: No, Dable was there the first year as the quarterback coach.

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Speaker 2: I'd have to go back and look, just slipping my

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01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 2: mind right now.

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Speaker 1: But they built this village around Josh to get him

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01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: ready to play on Sundays and they went from there.

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01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: And that's what these teams are gonna have to do.

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01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: If you're going to take a quarterback, I mean, you

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01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 1: don't wait till you get him, see how he is

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01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 1: to build around him before he gets there. Yeah, don't

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01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's why Houston may not take one at two.

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01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 2: There's talk they're going to take a defensive player, and

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Speaker 2: then if there's one still there, maybe they take one

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Speaker 2: at twelve.

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Speaker 1: I mean they take hen and Hooker at twelve. You

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01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean, give him half a year, let

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Speaker 1: him play behind the guy.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not ruling anything.

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Speaker 14: Out this year.

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Speaker 2: Maddie. Why don't you remind everybody? And thanks for doing

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Speaker 2: these mock draft watches. I know it's a tedious process,

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01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 2: so thanks for putting them together all spring long and

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01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 2: the pre draft run up. But maybe let everybody know

1368
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 2: where they're going to be able to find us with

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Speaker 2: our draft coverage starting tomorrow night.

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Speaker 13: Yes, before we do that, I want to share a

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Speaker 13: couple new to that I haven't shared yet. All track

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Speaker 13: against mock drafts, so we hear about the grades that

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Speaker 13: people have on these players and how this first round

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01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 13: could really you could see some names in there that

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01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 13: you don't expect to see in the first round because

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Speaker 13: grades are all over the place and people's draft boards

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Speaker 13: are really different than other people. Speaking about analysts and experts.

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Speaker 13: Last year, twenty five different players were mocked to the Bills.

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Speaker 13: This year, forty one different players have been mocked to

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Speaker 13: the Bills, which just speaks to the variety that people

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01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 13: have in terms of grades on these guys. And then

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Speaker 13: I also divvied up by month, hot positions and hot

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01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 13: names by month. So if I quickly run down when

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01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 13: we started to track these in all, fast forward to February.

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Speaker 13: So running back was mocked to the Bills thirteen times

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Speaker 13: in February. By April, running back was only mocked to

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01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 13: the Bills three times this month, so you've seen it

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01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 13: really fall off. Safety was mocked to the Bills ten

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01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,759
Speaker 13: times in February. Offensive guard was mocked to the Bills

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Speaker 13: seven times in February. Those were the popular position groups.

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Speaker 13: Then we move into March. Wide receiver mocked to the

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Speaker 13: Bills eleven times. In March. Wide receiver has been mocked

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Speaker 13: to the Bills twenty two times in April.

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Speaker 2: March.

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01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 13: Linebacker was also a hot position group nine times. Linebackers

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01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 13: were mocked to the Bills fifteen times. Linebackers were mocked

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Speaker 13: to the Bills in April, so wide receiver and linebacker

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01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 13: though those have been the two hot position groups in

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Speaker 13: March and April, and then by player. Bjeon Robinson was

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Speaker 13: mocked to the Bills ten times in February. I've only

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01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,879
Speaker 13: seen his name pop up twice in April. Osiris Torrance

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01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 13: was mocked to the Bills seven times in February. Then

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01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 13: we move on to March. Osiris Torrance again mocked to

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Speaker 13: the Bills nine times in March. So Osiris Torrance was

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Speaker 13: a favorite in February and March combined. He's also the

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Speaker 13: favorite name second overall, next to b Jeon Robinson being

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Speaker 13: mocked to the Bills eighteen total times. And then you

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Speaker 13: move on to April, and the favorite name this month

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Speaker 13: has been Jordan Addison. He's been mocked to the Bills

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Speaker 13: eleven times. Second favorite name in April has been Drew Sanders.

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Speaker 13: He's been mocked to the Bills eight times. Let's go,

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Speaker 13: so you're really seeing a shift off of running back

1413
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 13: and offensive line to wide receiver and linebacker as of

1414
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 13: late this month, so you're really seeing everything start to change.

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Speaker 13: Will that be mirrored? Will that happen tomorrow night when

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Speaker 13: the bills are on the clock.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you're your first note that you made

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Speaker 2: there about the number of names this year is compared

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Speaker 2: to the number of names last year. I think that

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Speaker 2: that's not only Yeah, that's not only among mock drafters.

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Speaker 2: I think that same variance of opinion exists with the

1422
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 2: personnel executives across this league. And it's why you and

1423
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 2: I madd are gonna be looking at each other tomorrow night, going,

1424
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 2: who have.

1425
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 1: We heard this guy yet?

1426
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: Like him?

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01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 6: Now?

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01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of guys and that's

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01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: gonna happen more than once tomorrow.

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01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, there'll be some guys and they'll and they'll even

1431
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: the nation guys will call those teams out on it.

1432
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean last year we made We've had a lot

1433
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: of fun with Cole Strange and the pick the New

1434
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: England Patrios. Let's not forget the guy started day game one.

1435
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,839
Speaker 1: He played for him, so he's a pretty good player.

1436
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: But the concern is not just that you get a

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01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: good player, but you get him at the place you

1438
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: can get him, the latest you can get him. You know,

1439
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: you want to pick a guy who's a starter. You

1440
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 1: want to get him in the fifth round. You want

1441
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: to get a star player in the first round. You

1442
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: want to you know what I mean, if a guy,

1443
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: If you take a guy in the first round, there

1444
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: are certain expectations to go with him. It's gonna be

1445
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: hard for him to live up to that. But that's

1446
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. You gotta get value for the

1447
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: picks you can. That's why these teams are starting to

1448
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: trade down and think about it so much. The Bills

1449
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: are ripe to trade down only six picks in this draft.

1450
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: There's a ton of guys. There's gonna be Like I said,

1451
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a handful of guys there that we're

1452
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: all gonna will have been mocked to the Bills already

1453
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: because there's forty one guys. But it's gonna be Osiris Torrens,

1454
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,759
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Jean Robinson, or it's gonna be Jordan Addison.

1455
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 1: You know, all these guys, they're gonna be there. So

1456
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: you can have any one of them you want. Can

1457
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 1: you move back four spots and still get one you want?

1458
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: If you have enough bodies?

1459
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: Right, So you want to move back get an extra

1460
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: pick and still get a guy, and it doesn't matter

1461
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 1: what position so much the wide receiver, offensive tackle, defensive tackle,

1462
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: line or whatever. But that's the whole key to this,

1463
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: this exercise in the draft. That's what happened. That's all

1464
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: the way back when mel Kiper first started doing it,

1465
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: and those guys from the teams were like, one, who's

1466
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 1: mel Kiper? I don't even you know, the guy doesn't

1467
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: even all that stuff. He was getting killed for it.

1468
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: But his his tenet, the tenant he preached is true,

1469
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: don't take a guy too early, get a pick for that,

1470
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 1: and get him later. You gotta be an analytics And

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01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what, man, with six picks in this draft,

1472
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if we don't come out with it

1473
01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: like seven players.

1474
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 2: A little move back at you, okay, Maddie quickly? Where

1475
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 2: will people be able to find us? In our draft

1476
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:07,799
Speaker 2: coverage beginning tomorrow night.

1477
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 13: All right tomorrow after our first round pick, and then

1478
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 13: on Friday after our second and third round pick, We're

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01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 13: gonna be streaming live for some instant reaction. Chris Brown

1480
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 13: and myself will also have Greg Cosell join us to

1481
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 13: help us break down these prospects and will lead into

1482
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 13: that Brandon Bean press conference that you guys all want

1483
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 13: to hear, and also the prospects who are drafting will

1484
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 13: have them on live as well as they talk to

1485
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 13: the media for the first time as a Buffalo Bill.

1486
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 13: You can find it on Buffalo bills dot com and

1487
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 13: streaming on Twitter and also Facebook.

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01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, I'll be watching you guys.

1489
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 2: So if you're out and you're not in front of

1490
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 2: your TV, you'll pop on your mobile app. When you

1491
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 2: guys do, it'll be two yes, two, okay, not three yet,

1492
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 2: it's gonna be. I gotta be in the eleven o'clock

1493
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 2: hour somewhere.

1494
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: I gotta work Friday, so that is true.

1495
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 2: You do have to come to work.

1496
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm be watching your live stream, no question about it. Yeah.

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01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 2: Looking forward to catching up with Greg co Sel two

1498
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 2: to break down whoever the Bill's first pick is, provided

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01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,759
Speaker 2: they stay in round one. Yeah, that is the caveat

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Speaker 2: that's Steve just pointed out. Maddie. Thanks for all your

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01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 2: help with mock Draft Watch.

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01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: It's been fun.

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01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 3: We appreciate it. We'll see you tomorrow.

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01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 2: We will take a break here, be back with more

1505
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 2: of your phone calls and tweets on your last minute

1506
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Speaker 2: reminder for one Brandon Bean.

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01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 3: Next here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned. All right, Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. What is your last

1510
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 2: reminder to Brandon Bean? Picture it. It's the day of

1511
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 2: the draft and you happen to walk on to an

1512
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 2: elevator and there's Brandon Bean. What is your elevator's speech

1513
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 2: to him? Your last reminder prior to tomorrow night's draft.

1514
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Leslie and Buffalo. What

1515
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 2: do you got first?

1516
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 3: Leslie?

1517
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 5: Yes, excuse me, Chris Hi Hi, don't stave, but I'm

1518
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 5: mainly calling the ball in the ball two years ago

1519
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,759
Speaker 5: speaking on Kleas Campbell, but he walked in the door.

1520
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 5: He couldn't keep him. So I was just saying, Colin,

1521
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 5: say he and Jordan Phillips with the monstrous tandem in

1522
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 5: the NFL. Thank you.

1523
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no problem, he's taught. He's referring to the

1524
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 2: free agent visit that Kaleias Campbell was to make here.

1525
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,839
Speaker 2: I don't know if he ever got here because Atlanta

1526
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 2: didn't let him leave their building and they signed him

1527
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 2: and so he was not an option. Then they re

1528
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 2: signed Jordan Phillips a short time later to shore up

1529
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 2: the position, and you can do a lot worse than

1530
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 2: Jordan Phillips, believe me. But yeah, like Brian Brazi if

1531
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:52,839
Speaker 2: he slides down there, and they don't think receiver position

1532
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 2: fits the value at pick twenty seven based on what's

1533
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 2: come off the board already, and maybe they're not as

1534
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 2: high on the linebacker position as some of us are,

1535
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 2: and Brian Berziz on the board, it's kind of a

1536
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 2: no brainer pick. Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean.

1537
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 2: So there could be options at defensive tackle at the

1538
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 2: bottom of round one. We'll just have to wait and

1539
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 2: see to John in Buffalo next. Let's pull up John here,

1540
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 2: what do you got for us?

1541
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 1: John?

1542
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 10: Okay, what I'd like to say to Brandon Dean is,

1543
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 10: if we can't get who we want in the first round,

1544
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 10: I'd like to trade with the Rams. I'd like to

1545
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 10: trade with the.

1546
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: Rams at thirty six.

1547
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 10: At thirty six, and I want to switch with our

1548
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 10: third round pick, uh, which is number ninety one, and.

1549
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 3: The Rams are at sixty nine.

1550
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I want to give them their fourth round pick, yep.

1551
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 10: And I want third next year first round pick.

1552
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if they have one. I think

1553
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 2: they do, but I'm not here, all right. I looked

1554
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,959
Speaker 2: up Okay, and what is your what is your impetus

1555
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 2: for doing that? You just want more draft capital or well,

1556
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 2: you know, every year it's.

1557
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 10: Like the candy store, you know what I mean, And

1558
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 10: you see all these guys and we're just not recently

1559
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 10: in the years that we get to pick up high

1560
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 10: this way, next year we can get the receiver you want,

1561
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 10: and uh, we'll have draft capital next year, all right.

1562
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 10: I mean, I'd like to see that because if we

1563
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 10: can't get who we want, and I like for Zi too,

1564
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 10: That's why I would pick first. If we can get

1565
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 10: Brazil wind back, wind Backer, any of the two between

1566
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 10: Sanders and Campbell, Jul Skinner which you guys never talked.

1567
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 2: About, the safety from Boise.

1568
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 10: And Jonathan Mango, I would take them four guys and

1569
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:56,839
Speaker 10: get rid of the rest of our draft.

1570
01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, John, good call. You thought a

1571
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 2: lot about that trade, that's for sure. I don't know

1572
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 2: if LA is willing to swap out swap to the

1573
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 2: bottom of the rounds though, that's the only thing that

1574
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 2: they might balk at. Yes, they're getting a pick at

1575
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 2: the bottom of round one, which is more valuable than

1576
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 2: their pick at thirty six. But here's my concern with that, Steve,

1577
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,879
Speaker 2: And it goes to the point you just made last segment.

1578
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 2: If the Bills are on the clock at twenty seven

1579
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 2: and they're talking to the rams and the rams still

1580
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 2: got about eight or ten guys that they like, they're

1581
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 2: not going up there, right because they know they're gonna

1582
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 2: get one of the eight or ten guys they like

1583
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 2: at thirty.

1584
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: Six, right, unless there's a guy they really like, yeah,

1585
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: which they don't think will last, right, I don't. That's

1586
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: a thin margin of error. Plus all the other moving

1587
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: parts that you're talking about, the you know, the second

1588
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 1: round flip flopping, third rounds, and fourth rounds. It's a

1589
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 1: lot of moving parts. You would have to get a

1590
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: conversation going so that you could finish all the details

1591
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 1: before you know the clock runs out. So you probably

1592
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 1: already floated it out there to them already, like today,

1593
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 1: said Hey, if this gets down here, what would it

1594
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: take for you to move out of thirty six? Uh

1595
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 1: and trade with us at twenty seven and YadA YadA,

1596
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 1: YadA yadh and go down the line.

1597
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 2: You lay a lot of the groundwork for potential places

1598
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 2: you could see yourself moving, you know, in a couple

1599
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,759
Speaker 2: of days before the draft, even the morning of the draft,

1600
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 2: you lay some of that groundwork so you know whether

1601
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 2: it's realistic in finding that trade partner at thirty five,

1602
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 2: thirty six, wherever you think you may need to go

1603
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 2: or want to go. So when the scenario you're thinking

1604
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 2: about actually comes to fruition, you can do it in

1605
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 2: the snap of a finger, knowing you only got ten.

1606
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: Minutes, right if yeah, and they they're not going to

1607
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,600
Speaker 1: tell you who they're looking at, like you know, if

1608
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 1: our guys there in twenty say, and then you got

1609
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 1: to say, okay, well and then you got to check back,

1610
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: hey is your guy still there? Yeah, and they say no,

1611
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: he's gone or whatever. And right, that's the way it

1612
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 1: kind of works. It's a complicated process where you got

1613
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: to have open lines of communication and some groundwork already laid.

1614
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: That's that's what it takes. And so yeah, I like

1615
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 1: where your head's aut of trading out and trading back

1616
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: in and flip flopping sweat picks and stuff and kind

1617
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 1: of giving yourself future draft picks, particularly if you get.

1618
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 2: A big deal though. I mean you're talking about five

1619
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 2: picks changing hands. There actually six picks counting the one

1620
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 2: next year. Right, that's a big deal. It is they

1621
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: got to be in love with somebody at twenty seven.

1622
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: It was a really big deal, and it could happen.

1623
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, just swapping picks just to

1624
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: be swapping picks is basically what you're saying that rarely happens.

1625
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: Usually it's got to be about a player, and a

1626
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 1: draft pick at twenty seven usually does not give you

1627
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: the impetus or the assuredness that those five picks are

1628
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 1: going to be worth it.

1629
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go back to the phones into Shane in Rochester.

1630
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:08,679
Speaker 2: Next we got for Shane.

1631
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 8: Hey, I would just politely remind Brandon that we only

1632
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 8: scored ten points in our last game at home. And

1633
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 8: if they want to protect Josh Allen, sign me. I

1634
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 8: will go freaking straight up water boy on anyone who

1635
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 8: tries to touch Josh all right.

1636
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 2: I think they might want to know what your salary

1637
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 2: demands are, but that that we appreciate your willingness Shane

1638
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 2: to protect protect you.

1639
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 3: Oh, they might sign you.

1640
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not too worried about the last game

1641
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,480
Speaker 1: they played against Cincinnati. I know that's maybe sacrilegious.

1642
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 3: I think it's an anomaly, but listen, Yeah.

1643
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 1: They scored way more points than Cincinnati did during your

1644
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 1: regular season and had a tougher schedule doing it. And

1645
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: it's a lot like it's very much of you know, Shane,

1646
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 1: You're very much a victim here of recency biased. The

1647
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: Bills are not a sum total of what their last

1648
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: game was. And I don't care what anybody tells you about, Hey,

1649
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 1: you're only as good as your last game that. Yeah, Okay,

1650
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 1: they were really really good last year and they're going

1651
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 1: to be really really good again this year. The only

1652
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: thing is they got to play better on that day,

1653
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,560
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. But it wasn't the Cincinnati

1654
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 1: Bengals that caused them to play bad. It was the

1655
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills that caused them to play bad. For whatever

1656
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: emotional reasons. Brownie and I have talked about at length.

1657
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: They are much better team than they showed in that

1658
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 1: playoff game, and don't let that color the decision making

1659
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: going forward because they were the team to beat last year.

1660
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 2: At the same time, Brandon Bean has said more than

1661
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 2: once in his season wrap up press conferences that usually

1662
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 2: your last game is an indicator of what you still

1663
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 2: need to improve on. And I think a couple of

1664
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 2: the things that he did mention was our pass rush

1665
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 2: has to be more consistent, and our offense needs to

1666
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 2: be more consistent in terms of scoring the points that

1667
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 2: we did. I think we would all agree that there

1668
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 2: were some weeks where the offense looked like they were

1669
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 2: lifting a piano, like one guy at a time. That's

1670
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 2: hard to do. And I remember taking phone calls here

1671
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 2: during the season Steve last fall where they said, you know,

1672
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm happy the Bills won the game, but why did

1673
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: it look so hard on offense? And there were weeks

1674
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 2: where that was very much the case. And I think

1675
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 2: this offense was just as productive as the ones in

1676
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 2: twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, but it was harder

1677
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 2: to get there. We all felt Josh had to do

1678
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 2: more every week. There weren't the easy button answers that

1679
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 2: we saw in this offense in twenty twenty and twenty

1680
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: twenty one. They got to get some of those elements back,

1681
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 2: so it's not such a heavy lift. Can you find

1682
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 2: those answers in the draft? We'll see do they feel

1683
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 2: they need to find those answers in the draft. We'll see.

1684
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 2: But that's what's gonna make right tomorrow and Friday and Saturday.

1685
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:00,839
Speaker 3: So interesting break time for us here.

1686
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 2: When we come back, maybe a snippet or two from

1687
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 2: that all encompassing sucking the air out of the room

1688
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 2: press conference down in New Jersey today with one Aaron Rodgers.

1689
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 2: We'll play a snippet or two next here on One

1690
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 2: Bill's Live.

1691
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 14: Stay tune.

1692
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 2: All right, As much as we may not want to,

1693
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers press conference happened today. So here is

1694
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers explaining why he saw the Jets as the

1695
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 2: place for him to finish his career.

1696
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 15: They smoked us last year, so I knew they had

1697
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 15: a good team. We got to practice against some a

1698
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 15: couple of years ago, and I got to get to

1699
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 15: know Robbery a little bit more, and I've always loved

1700
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 15: what he's all about. We played him in San fran

1701
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 15: a few times and mostly they got the best of us,

1702
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 15: but I liked the way that he was leading, his

1703
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 15: coaching style. A big reason I'm here, I got to

1704
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 15: mention is Nathaniel Hackett, who's here. Hacke and I became

1705
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 15: really close friends for three excuse me, three years in

1706
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,759
Speaker 15: Green Bay, and I love him like a brother, and

1707
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 15: I believe in him, and I'm really happy to be

1708
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 15: back working with him again. Obviously, Joe's got a great

1709
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 15: track record so far. I've drafted some incredible players, but

1710
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 15: it takes a system, and obviously Robert has the right sauce.

1711
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 15: So I'm excited about getting to work with him and

1712
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 15: Brick and Mark Kwan, former teammate of mine, and it's

1713
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 15: a great staff. But you know, I'm an old I'm

1714
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 15: an old guy, so I want to be part of

1715
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 15: a team that could win it all, and I believe

1716
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 15: that this is a place we can get that done,

1717
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 15: all right.

1718
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 2: Among the other things that Aaron did was he strolled

1719
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 2: into team meetings this morning. Robert Salo was asked for

1720
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 2: proof as to how Aaron Rodgers is fitting in, and

1721
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 2: Solas quote, he went into one of the meetings earlier

1722
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 2: and he was walking around barefoot. He's awesome, Steve, you

1723
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 2: want to take there, you go.

1724
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 1: Congratulations of the New York Jets. They now have you know,

1725
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 1: Albus Dumbledore as their starting quarterback or Gandolf the Gray,

1726
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 1: whichever you want to take your This wizard with his

1727
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 1: magic wand is going to come in and cure all

1728
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 1: the Jets ills. I think I think it's harder to

1729
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl than that. We've seen it here

1730
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. There's got to be a lot of things

1731
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: that go right, and it's hard to do in a

1732
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 1: city like that.

1733
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 2: Tomorrow is our Draft Day preview show. We'll see it

1734
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,719
Speaker 2: one when we'll have Evans Silva with us to break

1735
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:40,560
Speaker 2: down prospects yet again. We'll see that