1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody, Welcome into a Wednesday A Dash 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: of Texas All Acts, says from Monday Texans Radio Studio. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: I am your host, John Harris, football Anal Southam reporter 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: and so glad to be with you. We're gonna go 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: in the lab with your Doherty in our next segment. 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: And when I say we, I mean me and Drew 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: and we had a lot of different things on that 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: in the lab, but we'll have that for you in 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: our next segment. Obviously we had on the fifty three 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: man roster, the cuts that took place, those kind of things, 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the next segment because we're coming right 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: out to shoot hot, coming out hot, and how do 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: you do that on a Wednesday Dash of Texas All Access. 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: Let you bring in GM Nick Cassario, who decided to 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: share a few moments with Mark and myself. What a 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: beautiful human being he is, and we had an opportunity 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: to catch up with him and talk a lot of 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: different things about this team, talk about the cuts, talk 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: about various positions, and talk about the Indianapolis Colts. And 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: we will close with an idea from Mark that gets 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: shut down very very quickly. Right at the end of 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: our interview with Nick Cassario. Let's go Mark meet Nick 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: now joining us right now on Texans Radio. It's general 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: manager Nick Cassario. After being completely done with the roster, 25 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: no more changes. Everything is set in the stone. And 26 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: just kidding, you know, we joked that it's like a 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: construction site. It's always under construction. You finish this ramp here, 28 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: you're working on that shoulder there, You're never done. That's 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: exactly right, Mark. You really kind of create different buckets 30 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: and depending on the time of the year, there's certain 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: things that are appropriate for that time of year. So 32 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: I think this is the time of the year. It's 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: really in mass You know, when you look at what 34 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: happened yesterday throughout the league, there was almost called a 35 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: thousand transactions. It wasn't quite that many. Wow, it's a 36 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: significant amount. So twenty seven ish play. Twenty five to 37 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: thirty players come off of a roster so that are 38 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: available to the rest of the league. And there were 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: thirty three claims that were made this afternoon, which is 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: historically about what it is. It's about thirty five to 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: forty claims. Kind of at the initial cutdown like it is, 42 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: there'll be some players that are offset as a result, 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: so there will be players that we're on that are 44 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: going to come off, so there'll be available for the 45 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: rest in the league. There will be available potentially for 46 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: your practice squad. So i'd say this week, between now 47 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: and probably into next week, there'll be a lot of 48 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: i would say player movement, and then eventually you'll kind 49 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: of solidified and get situated, and then by the end 50 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: of September you'll probably have a good idea of kind 51 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: of where you are and where your players are, and 52 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: then moving forward, it's probably going to be more of 53 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: a case by case specific player situation relative to what's 54 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: going on with the rest of your team. Nike, it 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: feels like that's something that not that we have to 56 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: feel we have to educate listeners, but there are listeners 57 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: and people out there like, oh, the fifty three man 58 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: roster like it's set in marble. Are there players and 59 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: agents that kind of look at it that way too, 60 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: where you almost have to educate them on, hey, look, 61 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: this is for now, but it doesn't mean for later. 62 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: I think a lot of the agents understand how it works, 63 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: so you know, they understand it's kind of a snapshot 64 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: in time at that particular point in time, but it 65 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: very easily could change. So I think the one thing 66 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: that we try to do is just be consistent with 67 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: our messaging to the player and not I would say 68 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: over promise and under deliver. So just try to do 69 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: the right thing, Just be honest, and if you have 70 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: a situation that comes up or you have to move 71 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: on from the player, the circumstances may have changed, don't 72 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: try to sugarcoat it's just explain it for what it is. 73 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: But we look at it as it's fifty three. Kind 74 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: of your question, John, But then Lovey has talked about 75 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: this multiple times, and we've talked about this. It's really 76 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: seventy or sixty nine. However you look at it. So 77 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: those practice squad players are just as important or just 78 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: as valuable as the players that are on the roster. 79 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: So you have to look at it. You have fifty 80 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: three players here and then you're going to have sixteen 81 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: players over here, So how do you distribute your depth? 82 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: I think that's really the piece of the puzzle what 83 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: you have to determine and that group of players over here. 84 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: You're looking for certain things and every team is different, 85 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: so it goes back to what you're philosophy is with 86 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: that particular group on the practice squad. People here at 87 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: fifty three sixteen seventy because of the international player day. 88 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: Oh but there's also forty six. Now, what is it? 89 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: Forty seven plus the O linement if you want, it 90 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: can be forty eight on game day, which is really 91 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: the biggest number, right Nick, It's really about forty eight. Mark, 92 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: that's right, exactly right. So you can get to it's 93 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: forty eight, and then you can have X number of 94 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: players inactive based on if you have elevations or not 95 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: from the practice squad. So theoretically you have fifty three, 96 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 1: you have everybody else, but then you could have fifty five. 97 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: Then you if with the two elevations, and then you 98 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: have to make seven players inactive. So if you just 99 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: stick with the fifty three and have no elevations, make 100 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: five inactives with the eight offensive linemen if you have 101 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: an elevation, if it's fifty fourty and you have seven, 102 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: fifty five, y eight, whatever it is. So just the 103 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: math is a little messy right now, but again you 104 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: can you have to account for those players, and you're 105 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: gonna have You're always gonna have X number of players 106 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: that are an active each week, Nick, did the philosophy 107 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: change on how you you look at the overall roster 108 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: once COVID hit and practice squads could expand to sixteen? 109 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't remember what it wasn't a COVID year. I 110 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: think it maybe sixteen. But did the philosophy in your 111 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: mind change then trying to deal with COVID all the 112 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: different ins and outs. Did that kind of change the 113 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: way you look at it at that point? Yeah, we 114 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: learned a lot on a lot of levels about COVID. 115 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: I think everybody is sort of benefited from the extra 116 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: roster flexibility. The players benefit, you know that, the team's benefit. 117 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: So you have more opportunities to get other players and 118 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: maybe more players in your building. So it's a long year. 119 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: There's a lot of physical demands that are placed on 120 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: the players. It's a very i would say, demanding game 121 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: that the players play, and their bodies go through a lot. 122 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: So just having let's say, more healthy bodies, more readily 123 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: available bodies, is to the benefit of everybody involved. So 124 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: I think everybody has appreciated and responded favorably to the 125 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: increase in the size of the practice squad and the 126 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: flexibility that comes along with who can actually be on 127 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: the practice squad in those roles. Let's talk about the 128 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: receiver group for a moment here. You talked about Title 129 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: Johnson and your press conference a little bit. Nick and 130 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: Chris Moore. He's added a lot. I know we had 131 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: him last year, but he's really shined in camp. It 132 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: appears caught the touchdown against the forty nine ers on 133 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: Thursday night. It seems like you have a lot of 134 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: versatility in this group. Yeah, that whole group, they all 135 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: kind of have their own unique qualities about them. Everybody, 136 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: every player has their own strengths. Everybody has certain things 137 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: that they do maybe better than others. So I would 138 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: say when you look at the composition of that group, 139 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: that is certainly true. Nico's different than Cookie, Chris Moore 140 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: is different than Philip doors Set. So you look at everything. 141 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: I think specifically in Chris's situation between offensively and a 142 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: kicking game, he's been able to kind of create and 143 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: carve out a role for himself. He's got a good attitude, 144 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: he's out there every day, and he's improved relative to 145 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: where he was last season. So you know, we feel 146 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: good about the group that we have. And then you 147 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: know added Johnson, Tyler Johnson with the waiver claim here, 148 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: you know, a few hours ago and wherever that was. 149 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: So we'll take probably four to five receivers to the 150 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: game each week. Could be more, could be less. But 151 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: so when you take four or five receivers, you want 152 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: to make sure they have roles. And then if you're 153 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: back there backups. Are they just offensive backups that's okay, 154 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: or do they have some additional value that they could 155 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: help you in another phase on fourth down? Nick, one 156 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: of the things this summer that I want on a 157 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: little bit of a rant about as you look at 158 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: the receiver group, there's no slot receiver, And I said, look, 159 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: you don't have to have a Westwelker dany Amon Doola, 160 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: a guy that has been you know, in the slot, 161 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: that's what he does. You just have to have players 162 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: that can go inside and win inside. Do you find 163 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: that with your receivers that you do have guys that 164 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: can win both inside and outside no matter whether you 165 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: look at him and say that's a slot receiver or 166 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: that's an outside receiver where you put a label on 167 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: a guy, Yeah, I think like you said John. Putting 168 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: labels on receivers sometimes is you know, I'm not saying you, 169 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: but it's a little bit ire responsible. So really playing 170 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: a receiver position, two main jobs. You gotta get open 171 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: and catch the ball, and then on the primme of 172 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: the formation that certain things are a little more relevant. 173 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: When you play inside the formation, there are other things 174 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: that you have to deal with. So there's more space 175 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: that you have to deal with, there's more bodies, i 176 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: would say, there's more things happening at a high rate 177 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: of speed. And really, when you get to third down, 178 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: inside part of the formation, i'd say is where a 179 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: lot of completions are going to take place, which is 180 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: why defense try to pack the middle of the field 181 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: to force the ball to the perimeter of the formation. 182 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: So those players that are on the inside part of 183 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: the field, like what do they do well? Do they 184 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 1: have enough short space quickness to create separation from the defender? 185 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: Can they make contested catches in tight coverage, which on 186 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: third down there's probably going to be a lot of 187 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: tight coverage, So what you do offensively is important part 188 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: of that. Schematically, what do you value? What's important? But 189 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: the inside part of the field, there's a lot of 190 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: different types. And I'd say the tight ends are a 191 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: part of that discussion as well, because they're on the 192 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: inside part of the formation. So you have to be 193 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: careful about pigeonholing the receiver about well, this is what 194 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: we need, this is what he has to do. I 195 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: would say, if you look at inside inside receivers, third 196 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: down is kind of its own entity, and then first 197 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: and second down you're going to have players on the 198 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: inside part of the formation. I would say the coverage 199 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: is probably going to be a little bit different, So 200 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: what that player might be asked to do or what 201 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: you need him to do could be different as well. Nick, 202 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: our TV producer here at Tyler Marcott went to Central 203 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: Michigan University and watched to turn this into the Troy 204 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: Harriston show day fire up chips and I know you 205 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: spent time there. I spent time there. But this is 206 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: an interesting story really because he's an undrafted free agent. 207 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: Who would have thought and this is why you say 208 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: in the offseason, hey, let it play out and see 209 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: what happens. And look what happened. Yeah, I think it's 210 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: important to do that, you know, across position, so you 211 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: never want to assume or you never want to refute, 212 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: or you know, well it's not going to work out, 213 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: or this is what's going to happen. So you get 214 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: the players in, you identify the trace and characteristics that 215 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: you like, give them an opportunity, and then what does 216 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: the player to do with their opportunities and then take 217 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: the information in and then go ahead and make the 218 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: decision accordingly. So that's what we try to do across 219 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: the entire team, not just specific to Troy, but there's 220 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: other players that fall into that category as well. You 221 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: took a guy from my Aho monter so that you're 222 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: talking about Central Michigan, I'm gonna bring mine in. You 223 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: took a guy that was a defensive lineman or defensive end. 224 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: He turned in into one of the great full backs 225 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: in New England. That's being James Devlin. Is there something 226 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: about playing on the defensive side of the ball that 227 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: makes for a better fullback or a more effective full back? 228 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: Not necessarily better, John, but you know when you play 229 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: on the defensive side, and look, you need tough, competitive 230 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: footshall players offensively in defense, and like you need tough 231 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: offensive line. You want to have a tough, physical team, 232 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: better off tough, physical offensive lineman. But when you're playing 233 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: lineback and you're playing defense, there's a certain mentality that 234 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: is associated with that. So you have to be able 235 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: to play with strength. You got to be able to 236 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: play with toughness. You have to play able to play 237 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: with speed and chase the ball. You have to be 238 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: able to play with a certain level of explosiveness on context. 239 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: So you're really just reversing what you're doing front fullback 240 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: that you were doing on the other side of the ball. 241 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: And then it's learning the techniques, how to position your body, 242 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: how to hit him at the right angle, understanding the 243 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: concept of the play, the blocking angles. Those are the 244 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: things that you sort of have to learn that are different. 245 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: But football is football, and a lot of the traits 246 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: and characteristics on the defensive side of the ball applying 247 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball as well. How difficult 248 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't to put together this tight end group as 249 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: it stands right now, because he had some injury issues 250 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: throughout the preseason, But you're able to put together a group. Yeah, 251 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: we had some moving parts, as fair Mark, we had 252 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: some moving parts of this position. You know, Pharaoh and 253 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: Brevin had been on the field for the majority of 254 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: the snaps. You know, Teagan's kind of been in and 255 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: out of there. You know, Anthony was kind of not 256 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: available here for majority of training camp. We'll kind of 257 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: see how that goes here and moving forward. You know, 258 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: Mason was on the field, you know, bringing Jordan Nakens back, 259 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: who we have some experience with, who kind of fits 260 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: a certain profile and some of the things that we're 261 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: doing at that position. So, like any position, kind of 262 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: look at our options, what's available, where are we as 263 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: a team, and just try to maximize it. You know, 264 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: I think there's some things that we've done offensively. If 265 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: you don't have a tight end, maybe you use an 266 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: offensive lineman in his place, which I'd say it's pretty commonplace, 267 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, throughout the course of the league as well. 268 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: So we'll do whatever we think we need to do. 269 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: And really thinking going back to an earlier question about 270 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: its forty eight players, who are our best forty eight 271 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: to give us the opportunity too, I would say, offensively, 272 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: move the ball and score points, which is why we're 273 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: on the field. I remember we sat here the Saturday 274 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: after the draft was complete, and I know, just tearing 275 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: through Twitter social media, fans et cetera. He didn't he 276 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: drafted edg rusher. They didn't draft the edge rusher. And 277 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: you looked at us and you were like, hey, well, 278 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: you know, we got some things. Don't don't worry. We'll 279 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: be okay. And immediately or after Rashime Green and Jerry Hughes, 280 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: Mary Addison come into the bunch and that added to 281 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: a pretty big group and we only thought, man, this 282 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: is a pretty deep defensive line. How did that defensive 283 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: line break? I felt like that was We talked about 284 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: it a lot. That was gonna be the hardest and 285 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: most difficult cut. Did you like what you saw from 286 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: the defensive line, he'd liked the versatility of things you 287 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: saw from veterans all the way down to rookies. Yeah. 288 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 1: It was probably one of the more competitive groups you know, 289 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: we had out there, you know, in training camp and 290 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: think as a team we were fairly competitive. But instead 291 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: of the defensive line that was certainly I mean, there 292 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: were I don't know twelve fourteen players that you know, realistically, 293 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: you could have very easily kept you know, Rivers if 294 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, he didn't get a hurt, and it probably 295 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: would have been a mix because Derek improved relative to 296 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: where he was last season. I'd say one guy that 297 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: you know hadn't really talked about that much, but the 298 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: moan made a lot of progress from last season to 299 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: this season and what he did in training camp. So 300 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: whenever those guys were on the field, they took advantage 301 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: of their opportunities. So we knew we were gonna have 302 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: to make some difficult decisions. That's the way it is 303 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: every year. Some positions, maybe it's a little more relevant 304 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: than others, but those players they worked hard, they've improved, 305 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: and hopefully that translates over into being productive players on 306 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: the field on Sundays. What about the next week and 307 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: a half before the Colts game, and how you will 308 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: handle player acquisition if there's anything nick, because you've got 309 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: to keep your eyes out and what's available. Sure, we'll 310 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: be strategic with it. I think you know we're not 311 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: gonna be knee jerk with anything. So we're called fifty 312 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: three and fifteen right now. We have one spot available 313 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: on the practice squad, so we have a pretty good 314 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: idea of where we are here currently. If there's a 315 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: player out there at a position that we feel merits 316 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: some discussion, then we're always going to have those discussions. 317 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: That's our responsibility, so try to you know, for the 318 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: most part, the roster is where the roster is. There's 319 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: going to be some movement league wide, so there could 320 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: be some things on the fringes. Really, it's it's now 321 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: we've got to shift our thought process and mindset into Okay, 322 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: this is our We're starting to start our preparation for 323 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: Indie and the things I can win to getting ready 324 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: to play the Colts, which will be a you know, 325 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: a pretty challenging opponent if love team, If a team, 326 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: sorry Johnny, If a team releases a player wave as 327 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: a player and it's not readily apparent, why on the 328 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: tape necessarily think, hey, that guy fits in pretty well. 329 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: I wonder how hard is it to get information on 330 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: that and how important is that before you make it 331 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: possible to see Yeah, that's a great question. You kind 332 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: of have to pick your spots and you try to 333 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: get you know, you rely on the information that you 334 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: may have here already internally in our database to go 335 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: back and look at some of the evaluations, the analysis 336 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: of the player and if there's something else that we 337 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: need to get in an addition to what we have 338 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, we'll try to figure out a way, because 339 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: you just want to make sure you have some understanding 340 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: of what you're getting. Maybe what happened, Maybe it's just 341 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: a change of scenery, maybe something to pop up. They 342 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: were just moving on. There's no particular reason. So I 343 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: think it's certainly relevant, Mark, and you have to be 344 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: I say, like I mentioned earlier, just strategic about how 345 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: you approach that. I love talking about our own team, 346 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: but we finally talk about an opponent and a pretty 347 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: darn good opponent, and I love when you start breaking 348 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: down the other opponent because those are always the first 349 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: things I look at when we talk about what makes 350 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: this team good? What makes the Indianapolis Colts great? Yeah, 351 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: I would say, and they've made They've allocated some resources 352 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: here even at the cutdown here, like they're going to 353 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: be good in the kicking game. So they acquire Grant 354 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: Stewart in a trade. Denbio has done a good job. 355 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: Is safety from essen kicking game. Domeans done a good 356 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: job form in the kicking game. Speed is probably as 357 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: difficult to match up as any I would say side 358 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: speed linebacker and a kicking game. So the kicking game 359 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: is important to mean a Bubba Ventron does a great 360 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: job in a kicking game. So they're good in the 361 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: kicking game. They're good on both lines of scrimmage. They 362 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: got a good offensive line, I got a good defensive line. 363 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: They have the best back in the league, you know, 364 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: traded for Matt, have a good quarterback and you know, 365 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: have arguably one of the better young receivers in the 366 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: league in Pittman. So they pose a lot of challenges. 367 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: They present a lot of challenges and you know, we 368 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: saw that firsthand last year. So we got a lot 369 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: of work in front of us. You know, they're a 370 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: good team, and you know, we just got to make 371 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: sure that we've prepared. You know, when they walk in here, 372 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, a week from Sunday, and that makes sure 373 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: we're ready to go. Season scouting for them versus last 374 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: year scouting, how do you handle that. Yeah, it's the 375 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: same team, but it's a little bit different. You know, 376 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: they have to learn the new personnel and the defensively, 377 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: they're making a change with Gus Bradley, So you know, 378 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: Flu's got the job in you know, in Chicago as 379 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: a head coach. So they brought Gus back. You know, Gus, 380 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: excuse me, brought Gus to Indianapolis. So Gus is going 381 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: to put his system in place, probably similar to what 382 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: he did in Jacksonville, similar we did with the Chargers, 383 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: and then you know what he did last year with Vegas. 384 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: So that's probably the biggest I'd say, the thing that's 385 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: a little bit different relative to the Colts. Offensively, you know, Frank, 386 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: you know still here, Marcus Brady is still there, so offensively, 387 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: probably the root of what they do is going to 388 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: be similar to just have a different person under center. 389 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: So you take everything in totality, Mark and try to 390 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: look at everything that you think is going to help 391 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: you prepare for the opponent. Nick, it felt like one 392 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: of the most difficult decisions, And what one is for 393 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: you is do we put a guy on short term 394 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: IR or do we carry him on the roster because 395 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: we know he'll be ready in two three weeks? And 396 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: how do you how do you kind of balance that 397 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: one out the metical aspect of whether you put a 398 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: guy and I are where you put him. You want 399 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: to keep him, but mean he's not quite ready, but 400 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: maybe get him back by week three. How do you 401 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: kind of handle that decision? It's a great question, John. 402 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 1: I think we try to do the right thing by 403 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: the player and just not necessarily think short term, like 404 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: you always want to have the player, but you don't 405 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: want to put them in a position if they're not 406 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: physically really ready to go. Because if a player isn't 407 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: quite physically ready to go, look, a lot of players 408 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: play hurt and they'll go out there and tough it out, 409 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: but you want to make sure they can go on 410 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: a field and have full confidence and able to perform 411 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: his job at an optimum level. So I would say, 412 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, we probably air on the side of caution 413 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: just from an organizational perspective. Philosophically, and I think Lovey 414 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 1: and I believe philosophically in the same type of thing. 415 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: If a player is ready, he's ready. If he's not, 416 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: then you know, we'll have discussions about that about what 417 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: we think makes the most sense, and ultimately try to 418 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: keep in mind the players well being as well. So 419 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: try to be conscious of that. Is it tempting to 420 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: say I need to scout in person Ohio State Notre 421 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: Dame this weekend At the true yeah, I think there'll 422 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: be enough people that are smarter than me they're watching. 423 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: So I get more out of just watching a game 424 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: on exos when it comes in the house, because then 425 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: you can really spend more time when you go to 426 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: a game live. I think if you can if you're 427 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: watching something specific, that's one thing. But I would say 428 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: in this case, you're going to see a lot of 429 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: good football players all over the field, and your mind 430 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: can kind of wander a little bit and then you're 431 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: kind of focus. You know, kid, you know you can 432 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: get lost here a little bit. So we need a 433 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: segment called Nick's Picks. Okay, against the spread every week. 434 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: We can't gambling. The NFL will find that stay away 435 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 1: from that. Never mind about it, Nick, thanks a lot 436 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: for joining us. Thanks guys. A great idea from Mark. 437 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: Just that's one that can't be executed. I like the 438 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: idea though Nick's Picks. It would be great and just Nope, 439 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. With the focus the NFL on gambling. 440 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: We saw that impact on goy like Calvin Ridley who 441 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: did some things on DraftKings or whatever he did and 442 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: ended up getting suspended for a year. So yeah, mbling 443 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: is a no go for NFL employees, etc. So yeah, 444 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: Nick's picks. You are just gonna have to wait till 445 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: week one on Friday when I do my picks, which, 446 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: of course they're just for fun an upper gamblers or 447 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: anything like that. They're just to discuss the games. As 448 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: I've always said, speaking of discussing games and well discussion 449 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: in general. Drew Doherty stopped by for a little in 450 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: the lab to have a little pow wow about house 451 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: teams put together. How Nick and love you were able 452 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: to do it. That's next in the lab right here 453 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: on Texatile Access. Yes, yes, I know everybody gets excited 454 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: about the fifty three man roster. Who made it? The cuts? 455 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: Who was three o'clock yesterday? I liked the day after 456 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: Beca's when waiver claims happen. That's when some action starts 457 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: to take place. That's when practice squads start to come together. 458 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: And that's where we are now. No official statement yet 459 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: from the tech Sins as far as who made a 460 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: practice squad, but there are a lot of names we've 461 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: We've heard Marlon Mack being on the practice squad. I 462 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: just saw Cydrical Way he going to the practice squad, 463 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: amongst others. Thank Jalen Camp is there. So when that 464 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: becomes official, well obviously bring it to you. So a 465 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: lot of things going on with the Texans fifty three 466 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: man roster, with the practice squad, and this is the 467 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: time of year I love now. I know it's a 468 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: stressful time for the players, for their agents, for their families, 469 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: also for coaches, and GM's two getting it right, you know, 470 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: did you get did you cut the right guy? Did 471 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: you saved the right guy? And there's always one you regret, 472 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: but there's always one where you go, you know what. 473 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: I played a hunch and I played it right, and 474 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure Nickossario on the staff and the Texans have 475 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: done that as well. One that I just saw a 476 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: little while ago, Trey Sermon got cut by the San 477 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers, and I actually on my play 478 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: card I said this Thursday night last Thursday night. Boy, 479 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: it feels like a long time ago that Trey Sermon 480 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: was one of the guys that I was looking at 481 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: because running back wise, you don't know what's going to happen. 482 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: How is that going to shake out? Tray Sarmon's available 483 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: after just one year, so I don't know what the 484 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: Niners didn't see, but he has been wave Trey Sarmon 485 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: is available now. There are a lot of things going on, 486 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: and Drew Dorry and I tried to encapsulate all of 487 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: them right here with our in the lap. Let's go. 488 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: I didn't really get surprised, and you and I chit 489 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: chatted about this offline on text yesterday. I didn't really 490 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: get too surprised by any of these. Nope, roster moves. 491 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: Clint Stirner, I thought to give him full credit in 492 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: the postgame show after the final preseason game, brought up 493 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: the idea that he thought Marlon Mack was probably going 494 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: to be cut, And initially I said, what, Clint, what 495 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: in my mind on the right home, but he laid 496 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: it out very very clearly the reasons, basically saying, he's 497 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: coming off an injury, he's a veteran, he's probably gonna 498 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: be more expensive than the other options you have at 499 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: that position. And he wasn't doing it like, he wasn't 500 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: saying like, oh, Marlon Mack is awful, right, He's just 501 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: saying of that group, he's probably gonna be the odd 502 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: man out. So he I think that's the best way 503 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: to putting it. Putting it odd man out because and 504 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: that was the only real surprise, the only the only 505 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: two which you and I we do fifty three man 506 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: rosters all the time. We're always trying to figure out 507 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: who's gonna be on the fifty three man roster, all 508 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And then really the only two 509 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: things that I didn't have was I had I had 510 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: Brooks over Stuart at safety, and then in a Marlin 511 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: Mack that was that was it. Other than that, it 512 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: was all pretty much the roster revealed itself, as as 513 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: Nick Cassaria likes to say, Hey, the roster roll revealed itself. Love. 514 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 1: He Smith mentioned it as press conference, and it really 515 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: had yeah said a few really are phrasing, but and 516 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: essentially yeah, essentially the point being that guys will water 517 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: will find its level, Guys will find their natural spot, 518 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: or they'll fade, or they'll shine whatever. They've got plenty 519 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: of time, they got three preseason games, they got a 520 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: full month of training camp. They will shine or they won't, 521 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: and it'll be pretty evident. The Marla mac One was 522 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: the one that I was like, now I have seen 523 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: some reports that they're planning I'm bringing him back on 524 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: practice squad, which would be really cool to give him 525 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: that opportunity to have him here. And again we've said this, market, 526 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: I've said this, You and I have talked about this, 527 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: the fact that a fifty three man roster is not 528 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: set in stone. You don't go over there and chisel 529 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: it out of the marble and like this is the No, 530 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: that thing changes, that thing's written in pencil, and him 531 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: coming back is probably I'm guessing there's some massa like 532 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: massaging of contracts. Potentially, Yes, if he's there a week one, 533 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: it costs a whole lot more. You know, this is 534 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: just something that I'm throwing out there. Yeah, I imagine 535 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: that's that could go into it. And that's why you 536 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: might see guys, like you're talking about, this is such 537 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: a fluid process. You might see guys get added right 538 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: after that first game or you know later. Do you 539 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: remember that happened to John Weeks last year. It happened 540 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: in weeks he last year where he was quote unquote 541 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: released and it was some procedural thing that they had 542 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 1: to get to fifty three and they told him, look, procedural, 543 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: bring you back. And I think when everybody first saw it, 544 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: they were like, oh John. And then when following reports 545 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: came out that. Okay, look, this is a procedural thing. 546 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: He's coming back. There's no no worries. But he relaxed. 547 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: And that's maybe that happens with Marlon here. Who's to say, 548 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: but the thought being, the fifty three man roster came 549 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: together about like we expected, which I don't know good 550 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: or bad, but it was sort of evident this training camp. 551 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: It didn't seem like there were a ton of secret 552 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: sort of surprises. So they got to the fifty three 553 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: man roster that they'll start the year with as of 554 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: whatever today is when you're listening, and then they'll go forth. 555 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: There might be a player added, there might be a 556 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: couple added, there might be a couple moved, you know, 557 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: throughout the season. That'll happen because injuries and movement and 558 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. I don't know if we'll 559 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: have a Danny Amadola, but we didn't know that we're 560 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: gonna have a Danny Amadola last year. No, not until 561 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: basically this week. But yeah, you know about this next week. Yeah, 562 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: like over the weekend, see cha the Labor day signing. Okay, Now, 563 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: if you listen to this podcast, you know from this 564 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: last spring, a few times I mentioned how John and 565 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: I love doing the mock draft simulators on places like 566 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: PF dot com. Yeah, the Draft Network, there's those are 567 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: two of the better ones, I think, And so doing 568 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: that at least three or four times a week for 569 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: a few months, I got to know a little bit 570 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: more about the running backs class that we just saw 571 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: get drafted, and now we've seen some guys get cut 572 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: that when I picked them in the sixth seventh round, 573 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: I was given an A plus grade because I picked 574 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: these guys, and boy, there's some there's some guys out 575 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: there that are at least some of these sites thought 576 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: very very highly of that didn't wind up getting drafted, 577 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: but they went to camp with some teams. Now they're gone. 578 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: Any chance some of them stick, perhaps with the Texans 579 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: or do you think it's it's kind of gonna be 580 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: one of those things where we're gonna roll. The Texans 581 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: are gonna roll with what they have now, maybe, like 582 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: you say, bring Mac back, or do you think there 583 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: is a chance that some young blood could be brought in. 584 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: I absolutely think there's there's an opportunity for young blood 585 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: to come in. Look, every player that you maybe that 586 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: you released, is not or waived or whatever the case 587 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: might be, is not going to come back on practice squad. 588 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: Of those, maybe you get twelve eleven. I mean, who 589 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: knows what the number is. There's gonna be opportunity at 590 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: worst case. This is what the practice squad now does 591 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: is it allows you to look at players and go, 592 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: you know what, We're gonna leave the fifty three man 593 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: roster where it is. But what we're gonna do is 594 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: take this cat and put him on practice squad and 595 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: let him get in the building and let him meet 596 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: the coaches and let him show us a few things 597 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: out in the field. I think running back is one 598 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: of those positions that you could do that with and 599 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: feel comfortable. I always felt like offensive line, defensive line, 600 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: it's kind of tough because you want to see how 601 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: fisical are they know, how their hands, how they move, 602 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, some of that stuff that you'd like to 603 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: see with pads on, you're not gonna have that opportunity. 604 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: But a running back, yeah, you may not see exactly 605 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: all the vision, but can you catch them all in 606 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: the backfield? How does he hit the hole? How quick 607 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: does he hit the hole? And then obviously all the 608 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: things that go around off the field. How is he 609 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: in meeting rooms? How is he with the coaching staff? 610 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: How quickly does he learn? How quickly does he retain 611 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. You could, I think, see 612 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: it in a running back and bring a guy and 613 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: put him on practice squad and say, look, you'll have 614 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: an opportunity down the road. We'll see what you're gonna 615 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: do with that opportunity. And at that point, you don't 616 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: cut somebody from the fifty three man roster. You don't 617 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: have to make that decision, but you realize you got 618 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: two or three spots on practice squad and your draft 619 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: room like that particular back or like that particular you know, 620 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: weapon X or whatever he is. Hey, let's take a 621 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: flyer on him. He's out and available. They've probably had 622 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: some feelers out there and probably through the draft process 623 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: that they liked him. In the draft process. They probably 624 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: talked to him during that process at some point a 625 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: scout James Lipford, maybe all the way up to Nick. Yeah, 626 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: they have some good intel exactly now, it's just driving 627 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: with what you've seen from and heard of what he's 628 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: been doing since May with that new team, right, and 629 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: you know there are so many players over the history 630 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: of time, whether it's running back or whatever, that they 631 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: weren't drafted, they didn't stick for whatever reason. Coaching change. 632 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: Coaches couldn't see how to use that player, they didn't 633 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: find the right fit. The player that always comes to 634 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: mind for me is James Harrison. Debo was cut I 635 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: think three or four times by the Steelers. They just 636 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: couldn't figure out what to do with him, and he 637 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: they finally were like, you know what, let's just let's 638 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: keep this guy around. Let's see who does the special teams. 639 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: And then that turned into, well, you know what does 640 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: pretty well on special teams. He doesn't look like a 641 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: pass rusher, but you know, in practice he keeps getting 642 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: in the pass into the quarterback. Let's put him out there. Man, 643 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: he's pretty good. Let's play him all the time. Oh yeah, 644 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: he's really really good. Let's make him a pro bowler, 645 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: all pro And that's, you know, a guy that could 646 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: potentially go to the Hall of Fame at some point. 647 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: That was a guy that people just didn't know how 648 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: to use and what to do with him, and they 649 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: finally figured it out. And maybe that happens for a 650 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: number of guys, and maybe it happens for some of 651 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: these guys that get waved in release. So I'm I'm 652 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: always willing to take a shot on a guy if 653 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: I saw something in college that like, heck, yeah, I 654 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: take a shot on him. I think Tyler Batty was 655 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: a guy from Missouri who I think it was at 656 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens if I remember now, he's not a big dude. 657 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: He is not a big dude. He's five seven, but 658 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: he is tough as a two dollars steak man. He 659 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: will run inside, but he can catch the ball out 660 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: of the backfield. He's a tough He's a tough little guy. 661 00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: Is that a guy you want to take him? Maybe 662 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: trying to develop into a third down back sort of 663 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: a if you go into Texans way back machine. Remember 664 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: a Keem Hunt, right, I do, Yeah, a Keem Hunt. 665 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: That's kind of Tyler Batty and that guy gave you 666 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: a I mean some of the most memorable plays of 667 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: fifteen and sixteen, and Keem Hunt did. So you had 668 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: a player like that. You know who's to say, but 669 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: you just want to make sure that whoever you're putting 670 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: on that practice squad, you feel like, Okay, we can 671 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: a develop this guy over time or B this is 672 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: a guy that at some point we foresee playing on 673 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: this roster in twenty twenty two, or see both. Yeah, 674 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm cool with it. I also like Sequandre white Yahan 675 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: for for another time. Okay, Ross Blacklock has been dealt 676 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: to the Vikings. We've seen the reports. He goes along 677 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: with a seventh round pick and in return the Texans 678 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: get back a six. So that means the Texans now 679 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: have four sixth rounders. They don't have a seventh rounder 680 00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: because that's theirs that got Delta Minnesota. They they got 681 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: a seventh round conditional pick back when they traded cornerback 682 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: John Reid a year or so good, but the day 683 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: that he got cut before the season started nixed that deal. 684 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: So he got cut, they brought him back. He did play. 685 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: I think six plus games doesn't matter, but Sexans are 686 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: not getting that pick. So if you see that listed 687 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: out there, that's not correct. And John Reid didn't make 688 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: the Seahawks this year, by the way, well he made 689 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: the initial fifty three for John. I let John when 690 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: he was here exact just didn't work out here. So 691 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: Sexans have four six, two ones, two threes and a 692 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: two four and five. That's eleven picks total in twenty 693 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: twenty three. We know they're not going to take eleven players. 694 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: A lot of those picks are gonna get dealt. Many 695 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: of them will be dealt the week of the weekend 696 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: of the draft. But lots and lots and lots of 697 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: AMMO right now for Nick Kisserio and company, and no 698 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: AMO in the seventh, which I think they like because 699 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: they don't have to dicker around with that and they 700 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: can start working on undrafted free agents, negotiating with them saying, hey, 701 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: you got a spot here for competition, we think we 702 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: could use you. They get a headstart on things. So 703 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: that's I think an under rated little aspect of this deal. 704 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: In addition to getting compensation for a guy that might 705 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: have been on the chopping block. Yeah, you might have 706 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: to just cut him. I mean you get something. You 707 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: essentially you move up to the draft, You essentially pick 708 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: swap is what you did. You're like, hey, we're gonna 709 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: move up to six. You guys move down to seven, 710 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: and you'll get a guy that we really felt like 711 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: had run its course here in Houston. That's unfortunate because 712 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: I loved Ross his human being he was just a 713 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: sweet teddy bear of a man. Went to Mexico with 714 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: the guy. Yeah, I mean he was just awesome. Yeah, 715 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: just a really good, good dude amongst the d line. Again, 716 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: the roster reveals itself to you. It was pretty clear. 717 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: And I watched every single rep of one on one live, 718 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: and I watched every single rep of one on one 719 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: side drill on film, every single one. So I saw 720 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: everything in training camp at least at least three or 721 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: four times. It was clear the ten guys that should 722 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: have been kept. If they were keeping ten or nine 723 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: or what. I can't remember with the number is, I 724 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: think it's ten, those were the ten. If you said 725 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: give me the ten, that's the ten. I worried about 726 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: nine because I worried about having to make a decision 727 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: between Dwump four and Heinis and I felt like both 728 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: of them deserved it. I felt like Hinnich was probably 729 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 1: a hair ahead of what Dwump four gave them, But man, 730 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: DWMP four was he was coming. And when you think 731 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: about having that position of essentially a position Roy plays, 732 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: they're two interior defensive positions. One is the three technique, 733 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: a little bit quicker. That's Malik, a little bit quicker, 734 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: a little bit lighter, but a guy that is there 735 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: to create havoc up the field. So that was what 736 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: hopefully they wanted Ross to be, but that never came 737 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: to fruition. But you have some guys that could play 738 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: at spot. Ross could play at spot. Rashim Green can 739 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: go and play that spot. Thomas Booker can play that spot, 740 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: but he can also play the other spot, which is 741 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: a nose tackle spot. That's Roy, that's highnish, that's sometimes Booker. 742 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: Booker can play both, which is nice. And then you 743 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: have dwap four who could play that spot. And I 744 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: think and I think that dwamp four can play both 745 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: those spots too because he is pretty quick and small 746 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: point that we need to point small thing we got 747 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: to point out right now, we've heard all about flexibility 748 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: and how valuable that is, and yes, it is nice 749 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: to have guys who can play, but these guys can 750 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 1: do things at each of these that's like, excel at 751 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: each of these spots. Not just play and give you 752 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: the league average, but they've got they've got ways that 753 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: they can make plays as an outside guy, make plays 754 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: on the interior. And that's so very attractive. That's so 755 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: very tantalizing right now, and something I'm very very excited about. 756 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 1: The V word became kind of a bad word fertility 757 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: during the Bill O'Brien err because it would be the 758 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: first thing out of Bill's mouth and oh, he's versatile. 759 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: And what ended up happening was people would hear, oh 760 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: he's versatile, and then watch him go to those multiple 761 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: spots not play well and think all versatility is a sham. No, 762 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: versatility is hugely important. But the key is, like you 763 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: just said, Drew, you gotta be able to play both spots. Sure, 764 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: you can't just line up there. Oh that's that's not versatility. 765 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: Versatility is being able to line up and be productive 766 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: at multiple spots. So the d line got it right. 767 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: You bring up a good point though about the getting 768 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: the undrafted signees, getting that process going. I mean, right now, 769 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: with the initial fifty three man roster, you're looking at 770 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: Kurt Heinisch, you're looking at Jake Hanson, Troy Hairston, three 771 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: guys that you have an initial fifty three man roster 772 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: that came from the undrafted process. Now, that doesn't mean 773 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: that you wouldn't have gotten them if you would have 774 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: waited until the very last pick and and to really 775 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: kind of move that process along. But if you get up, 776 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: if you get a jump start. And the other thing 777 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: is if you had a seventh round pick, maybe you 778 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: pick one of those guys comes a drafted pick. Either way, 779 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: you got him through the undrafted process because two hundred 780 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: fifty six picks went by or whatever it was, and 781 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: those guys didn't get picked, but you brought him here. 782 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: He converted Harrison of fullback. That's been a good move. 783 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: Kurt Heiness has been I think a great signing. And 784 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: Jake Hanson I was curious. I really liked him at Illinois, 785 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: but when he didn't play in twenty twenty one, he's 786 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: off the radar screen, like how bad is the injury? 787 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: You never know how guys are gonna come back. Made 788 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: plays this August dude, he came back in preseason and 789 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: he could He could fly. He can app That is 790 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 1: one thing about every single linebacker on this defense. They 791 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: can all run and Hanson is a perfect example that. Oh, 792 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: by the way, the last two years with Lovey in 793 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: nineteen and twenty at Illinois, his last two full years 794 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: in college, he led the nation and takeaways combined for 795 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: those two years. Loves takeaways absolutely. I mean I love 796 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: takeaways too, we all do. So Yeah, that's to get 797 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 1: that undrafted process. To see three guys on the initial 798 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster and we don't know how that's 799 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 1: gonna shake out over the next two days, week, month, whatever, 800 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: but you at least know you found some value there 801 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: and if anything, if anything, you can bring those guys back, 802 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: or you hope to bring those guys back on a 803 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: practice squad. I don't know if you can after what 804 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: those three were able to do, but you'd want to 805 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: be able to try that if you have to, so 806 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: us It's such an interesting process to me, Drew, Just 807 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: how you know guys that go to practice squad. I 808 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,919 Speaker 1: wish the NFL would just allow teams to not cut 809 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: a guy, but to say, you know, we're just gonna 810 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: take you straight to practice squad, right like, we don't 811 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: subject them to waivers. You know, if you want to 812 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: subject guys to waivers, fine, but you know these six 813 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: guys are lock guaranteed practice squad. We're not cutting you, 814 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: just moving you to practice squad, and then you could 815 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: have the others. Hey, we're gonna we're gonna release you 816 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: and put you on the waiver process and see what happens. 817 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 1: But that'd be that, that would be my change to 818 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Lock up half the practice squad, the 819 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: eight guys you want, but the other eight guys subjecting 820 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: to the waiver process and see what happens, and then 821 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: if you can bring him back, great, If not, I 822 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: don't know. It just feels so risky. I don't know. 823 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: I just that's the one part I don't like. Well, 824 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: I'll say this, you know what I like. If Tim 825 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: Jamison's listening to this podcast. About two minutes ago, he 826 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: was shaking his head and smiling because our good pal 827 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 1: Tim Jamison, he played for this team for six years. 828 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: He was an undrafted rookie in two thousand and nine 829 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: and I think early October, end of September, he was 830 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: the first guy that got called up from the practice 831 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: squad got his fifty three man roster spot. He was 832 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: He made it that year before Arian Foster did. So 833 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: Arian's probably talking terodactyl instead of listening to this podcast. Yeah, 834 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: maybe Tim is listening to this podcast. Do we translate 835 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 1: that to pterodactyl. I don't know either way, yeah, I'm 836 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: not sure that we translate that to pterodactyl, but if 837 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 1: we did, Aaron might listen. He might listen. But yeah, 838 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: Tim Jamison, when those guys undrafted ended up being a 839 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: really important player for this team in thirteen May for 840 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: a while, oh nine, I think Drew said all the 841 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: way to fourteen fifteen, maybe he just was always around 842 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: and always providing very good value on the defensive line 843 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: and hoping that guy's like Kurt Heinisch and Thomas Booker 844 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: and Michael Dwon four some rookies and young guys on 845 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: the defensive line could do the same down the road. 846 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna finish up. We're gonna go round. 847 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,439 Speaker 1: The league hit on a few items, including Baker Mayfield says, 848 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 1: I didn't say that about the Cleveland Browns. That's next 849 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 1: on Texas All Access. It's all Access, It's all Access. 850 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: We were one final segment of this Wednesday edition of 851 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I 852 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: am John Harris, glad to be with you. I may 853 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: have buried the lead earlier. I mentioned some of the 854 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: things happening with the practice squad, but I think I've 855 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: failed to remind everybody or alert everybody to the fact 856 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: that Texans did make a waiver claim, and that is 857 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: Tyler Johnson, formerly of the U. Now, if you live 858 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, you in Minnesota is the University of Minnesota. 859 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: The U is not the University of Miami. Everywhere else 860 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: the U is the University of Miami, but in Minnesota, 861 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: the U as it's referred to is Minnis the University 862 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: of Minnesota Golden Gophers. Tyler Johnson spent a couple of 863 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 1: years with Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Obviously, he's at a position 864 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: where there's Chris Godwin, there's Mike Evans, there is now 865 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: Julio Jones, and they're just wasn't a lot to go around. 866 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: And so the Bucks waved Tyler Johnson. The Texans had 867 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: the number three spot and they claimed him. And when 868 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: I saw the fact that he had been cut, Mark 869 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: and I were in studio and we were kind of 870 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: chopping it up about various things and talking about and 871 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: something happened right as I saw it, because I was 872 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: going to turn him and go, we need to claim him. 873 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,720 Speaker 1: Six one two oh five, could play inside, could play outside, 874 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: can do some things. Watch him against the Colts was 875 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 1: actually watching for the Colts and on the first route 876 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: couldn't hang on to a pass. A second one, he 877 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: beat Kenny Moore an inside route, made the catch for 878 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 1: a first down. Tom Brady hit Tyler Johnson with some 879 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: big throws while he was in Tampa as a rookie 880 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 1: on it to last year, So Tyler Johnson becomes part 881 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: of the Texans receiving cores. I mentioned a little earlier 882 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers have gotten rid of Trey Sermon. 883 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 1: Tray Sermon was a third round draft pick and I 884 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: bring that up because he's a running back. And when 885 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: Marlon Mack was released yesterday, now coming back to the 886 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: practice squad, at least, that's what I think the team 887 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 1: would like to be able to do. If he comes 888 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: back to practice squad, he's in the house, then you 889 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: got an opportunity to use him. I don't know if 890 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 1: a guy like Tray Sermon makes any sense, but would 891 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: you take a flyer on a Tray Sermon, the former 892 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: Oklahoma former Ohio State running back who finished twenty twenty 893 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: with a flourish He went nuts down to stretch, and 894 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: that might be a guy you take a look at. 895 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: Maybe not it was one of the guys that I 896 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: wanted to look at when we played the Niners last week. 897 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 1: Another guy wanted to look out was Treat Castro Fields. 898 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: He ended up getting claimed after he was released a 899 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: drafted rookie by the Niners. He gets picked up. I 900 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: believe it was with the Washington Commanders. So things going 901 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,240 Speaker 1: on throughout the league. It does appear for your Texans 902 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,439 Speaker 1: that Tabierra Thomas will go to IR, team Quatriano gonna 903 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: go to IR and with Tyler Johnson coming in, I 904 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 1: think my math is correct. That leaves one more opening 905 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: that it's fifty two. But we'll see what that actually 906 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: can mean for the Texans. A big thanks to Mark, 907 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: to Nick Caserio, as always to Drew Doherty. You guys 908 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: are the best for listening. We'll see you Tom, everybody, 909 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: and as always, go Texans.