1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to you Stuff you should Know from house Stuff 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Josh Clark, There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant and Jerry's over there, 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: and uh, it's time for stuff you should know. Everybody 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: settled down, buckle in, get ready. Hey, congratulations to Kristin Bell. 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: Stuff you should know. Celebrity fan Kristen Bell and her 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: husband Dak Sheppard had their baby. Oh hey, congratulations, A 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: big congratulations to you. And uh, I don't know if Mr. 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna congratulate her on atter movie Owen, 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: the Veronica Mars movie. Well, congratulations on that. My wife 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: is very much looking forward to that, and your wife 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: is looking forward to meeting the baby. She's on her 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: way right now. Kristen Bell's locking the doors. Oh my god. 14 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: What started out is small fascination with their show and tragedy, 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: dangerous made for TV movie, and anyway, I just want 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: to say congratulations. Yeah, that's nice if you chuck sure, 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: Uh I got no congratulations over here. Yeah, interesting that 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: I tied that to this podcast on like female torture essentially, 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: do you think there's something to that? Well, we live 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: in a world now where we don't have to worry 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: about although I think they had a son where any 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: little baby's feet being binded, I guess not babies, but 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: four or five year olds were bound. Yeah, yeah, bound, binded, bound, Okay, 24 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: because the feet were bound? Yes, yes, yeah. Um, do 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: you think we should explain to everybody what we're talking 26 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: about foot binding? Yeah? I'm glad you. Um, thank you. 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: Congratulated Kristen Bell because I didn't really have much of 28 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: an intro for this one. Um, because it's just so fascinating. 29 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: I feel like we should just kind of dive right in. Yeah, 30 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: fascinating and horrible and like oddly impactful and areas I 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: never would have considered. Yeah, so we should say that 32 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: over the course of about a thousand years, from roughly 33 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: nine seventy until about the nineteen fifties, like almost on 34 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: the dot a thousand years, about three billion women in 35 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: China um bound their feet to basically train them to 36 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: become small and pointy in a really bizarre custom that 37 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: just kind of came out of nowhere and stuck around 38 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: again for about a thousand years, voluntarily deforming their feet, well, 39 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: at the very least their mothers and grandmothers voluntarily deformed 40 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: their feet for them. Yeah, it's a very good point actually, Um, 41 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: but at some point they had to take over, and 42 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: I guess then it became voluntary. Well sure, well we'll 43 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: get to all that, okay, spoilers. So basically this was 44 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: purposeful deformation of the human foot, the human female foot, 45 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: in order to attract men. There was a standard of 46 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: beauty of bound foot. Um, and we'll we'll describe it 47 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: in a minute. But um, the idea, the whole thing 48 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: kind of came from they think about, like I said, 49 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: a d in the court of an emperor named Lee 50 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: You and Lee you had a favorite girlfriend, ballerina girl. Yeah, 51 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: and apparently he saw her dancing once on a golden 52 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: lotus pedestal because everything was made of gold back then 53 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: in China, and um, she had her feet kind of 54 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: wrapped up, I guess, like a ballerina or something. And 55 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: he apparently got very very excited at this, visibly excited, 56 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: so much so that um, the other ladies of the 57 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: court noticed this. Did you say visibly excited? Visibly excited? Um, yes, 58 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: if you know what I mean, I would imagine, Hey, 59 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: this guy's been dead a thousand years like all all 60 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: slander and defamations, like out the window. It's like it 61 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: was a rocking time. It's the Southern Tank Dynasty. It 62 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: was you never know gonna happen. Yeah, it made Caligula 63 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: look like watching it as an adult, yeah boring. Yeah. 64 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: So um so really the ly you was very much 65 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: entranced by this enough that other women in the court 66 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,839 Speaker 1: noticed it and they started wrapping their feet as well. Yeah, 67 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: and it just kind of took off from there, and 68 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: it took a weird turn pretty early on. Uh what 69 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: was the turn? Well, the turn is originally apparently the 70 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: first the woman who started this whole thing just kind 71 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: of wrapped her feet in bandages to too. I guess, Oh, okay, 72 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: I see what you mean that turn. It's a literal turn. Yeah. Well, 73 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: it became a status thing at first because wealthy women 74 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: did it, and um then it sort of spread and 75 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: and and it also would end up preventing women from 76 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: doing like manual labor. Well, not prevent but it made 77 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: it tougher. So it was sort of a status thing 78 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: that meant like, if you had the bound feetunt out 79 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: they're working in the fields, I don't even have to 80 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: throw home. But then it spread throughout China and only 81 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: a few places. Actually it was more than this article 82 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: led on and did some more research on that. I 83 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: saw like where fifty six of the women ended up 84 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: binding their feet in China, and this says like except 85 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: in these provinces. Well, I think they were saying about 86 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: close to a of the higher classes. But yeah, there 87 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: was so maybe about half of the Chinese population total. Yeah, 88 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: that makes sense. So the strange turn it took though, 89 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: was to go from simply wrapping their feet to actually 90 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: the binding process, which is malforming your feet at a 91 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: young age like four to seven years old for life, 92 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: to where when your shoe was off, it looks like 93 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: you're wearing your foot looks like a high heel. You're disfigured. Yeah, 94 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: you can't walk very well. Um, you can't again, you 95 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: can't work in the fields. Um, and your your foot 96 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: has been brought to a point basically that's ideally three 97 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: inches long, three inches like that's it, and it's pointed. 98 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: And you do this by training your foot and your 99 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: bones two deform. Yeah. And when I say it looks 100 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: like a high heel, like your foot looks like a 101 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: shoe like the heel is separate from the rest of 102 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: the foot, and a big block that looks like the 103 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: heel of a shoe, and the foot is permanently arched 104 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: and pointy, and the toes are cold under and it's 105 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: just if you look at pictures to this, it's horrific looking. Yeah. 106 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: And it was so um entrenched in the Chinese culture 107 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: that when it was outlawed for I guess the first 108 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: time in nine um, it continued on and it took 109 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: the Communists taking over to really get rid of it, 110 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: and footbinding went the way of disco. Um by just 111 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: practical necessity. Um. Women had to work in the field 112 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: and if you had bound feet, well you're in big trouble. Yeah, well, 113 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: the end of it. Should we talk about the end now? 114 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: Should we do it later? Let's do it now? Okay, 115 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: let's just mess with the end of that. There were 116 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: a lot of factors at play. One was Western missionaries 117 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: came over there for the first time and said, yeah, 118 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, this is really not what the rest of 119 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: the world is doing, and it doesn't make you look 120 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: good by the way, uh, social Darwinists got on it, 121 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: and we're like, yeah, you know what, we're not going 122 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: to survive as a country because like half of our 123 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: population is hobbled. Essentially, it's like this is gonna be 124 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: really bad for business one day. And so they mounted 125 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: like a real campaign, like an education campaign, which is 126 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: really unusual back then. And uh, they had three phases 127 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: to it. One was that it made you look bad 128 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: and look strange to the rest of the world too. 129 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: That taught the advantages of having normal feat like walking 130 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: without pain. And then they formed um natural foot societies 131 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: where people would pledge not to do this to their 132 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: matters or allow their daughter to marry a son, or 133 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: or allow their son to marry a girl who had 134 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: bound feet, because that was one of the big deals. 135 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: If you didn't have bound feet, then guys would just 136 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: pass you over, right. That's what it took to finally 137 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: like eradicated. When was that, Uh, that was was that 138 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: after the nineteen twelve outlaw or the no it was 139 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: leading up to that l was formally outlawed. They had 140 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: government inspectors that would come around and make sure that 141 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: you weren't binding feet any longer, and they would like 142 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: hide girls that they still wanted to do. So it's 143 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: like really oppressive and weird because that campaign that you 144 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,239 Speaker 1: just described is basically point for point trying to undo 145 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: a thousand years of custom like if you had unbound feet, 146 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: like natural feet, you were considered a freak. They were ugly, 147 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: there was something wrong with you. And even more to 148 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: the point, uh, no man would marry you. Yeah, because 149 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: bound feet were so idolized in Chinese culture. Um that 150 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: if you were just totally plain or even horrendously ugly 151 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: in every other way. But I really knock out bound 152 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: feet like that was enough for you. You were butterfly. 153 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: You're gonna do pretty good. That's hilarious. Um yeah, I 154 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: mean it's hard to believe now, but when you see 155 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: these photos in like the X rays and stuff, it's 156 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: just like total deformation. So let's talk about this. There's 157 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: there's an actual process, fairly straightforward, although extremely painful and dangerous. Um. 158 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: If you, like I think you said, you you grabbed 159 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: like your four year old daughter, you say, it's prepare 160 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: for a lifetime of pain and suffering right starting now. 161 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: And you take your feet and you soak them in 162 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: hot water for a few hours in animal blood too. 163 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what did that do? The same thing? Softened 164 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: It softened you up Okay, so like that was the 165 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: whole purposes of the soaking was to soften the skin, 166 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: make it more pliable, and I imagine the muscles too. Um. 167 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: And then after the soaking you would scrape away any 168 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: dead skin. And then after that their toenails were clipped, 169 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, super short, so they're still kids. Are like, Okay, 170 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: I don't really like the toneail clipping part, but the 171 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: foot soak more than makes up for it. Um, And 172 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: boy do I really It turns out I like animal blood, 173 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: so can my feet in it? And then um, the 174 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: the either their mom or maybe a learned woman in 175 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: the village would say all right, now we're going to 176 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: start bending your foot. Who imagine these ladies too. If 177 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: they were the village lady that did it, they probably 178 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: didn't take much guph No, probably not. You know, they 179 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: probably mess around. Imagine they came in there and just 180 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: sort of took care of business like they've heard it 181 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: all before. Is grizzly and grotesque or procedure. It's actually 182 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: a delicate procedure too, because if if you can wrap 183 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: your mind around less, there's ways to do it wrong 184 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: that can lead to problems. There's actual risk factors. So, uh, 185 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: the one other thing I left out was a sprinkle 186 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: talc in there to keep it from perspiring, because you 187 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: want it to be dry, right, And then they start 188 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: bending things right, yeah, Well, then the cotton comes out, 189 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: the bandages about two inches wide, about ten feet long, 190 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: and they would soak those in the hot water and 191 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: blood and herbs as well, because they want those to 192 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: shrink up. It's all about shrinking. They want those to 193 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: shrink up after they are applied to the feet. Um 194 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: and then the old lady comes up and she folds 195 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: the little four toes that were just clipped, not the 196 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: big toe under as far as she can, and then 197 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: starts to do little figure eights to keep them in place. 198 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: You leave the big toe exposed, yes, and you leave 199 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: the big toe exposed and the heel exposed, and you 200 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: just sense those little front toes under. They break the toes, 201 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: It breaks the foot bones. It sounds horrific because it is. 202 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: And it brings the heel closer towards the ball of 203 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: the foot. So the point of your feet is now 204 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: your big toe. The slightly wider part behind it is 205 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: the ball of your foot, and then behind that is 206 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: your heel. And underneath it all are your four poor, 207 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: poor little toes. And the top of your foot is 208 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: that this really unreasonable, odd looking arch, because that's like 209 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: you're in a high heel. Yeah. By making it arched, 210 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: you're bringing your allowing that distance that was once between 211 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: the ball of the foot and the heel to go 212 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: up rather than between the two, you're bringing them together. 213 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: And so all this has just been done to a 214 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: four year old four years probably crying in pain. And 215 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: after you've finished with the bandages, um, the old lady 216 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: or the mom would probably sew them because, especially if 217 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: you're dealing with a four year old, it's going to 218 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: try to get these things off. Um. And then they 219 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: say all right, start walking. Yeah, they put a little 220 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: shoe on there, and that the first steps with these things, 221 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: and imagine many steps after order excruciatingly painful. Yeah you know. 222 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: Well yeah, Um, here's the here's the craziest part. If 223 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: you ask me, you do this every day for years, well, 224 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: every couple of days, okay, every day or every other 225 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: day is what I've kind of diminish it for a 226 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: couple of years. It takes a couple of a few 227 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: years for these things to be fully deformed into what 228 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: are called the lotus petals or new moons or whatever, 229 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: because it's a bandage. You know, you you unbind and 230 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: they actually wouldn't like need the broken foot, keep it 231 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,479 Speaker 1: broken and uh dry it all out real good because infection, 232 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: like the toes would cut into the foot if they 233 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: weren't cliped properly. So infection and gang green that's too 234 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: tight all big threats to like losing their feet, right, 235 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: because if you wrap, if you wrap them too tight, 236 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: they can become gangrenous because you get gang green, which 237 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: is a massive loss of dead tissue um due to 238 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: to poor circulation UM. So the foot could just fall off. 239 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: And like you're saying, if you don't clip the toe nails, chuck, 240 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: like you have to do that every day or every 241 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: time you you unwrap and then wrap your feet. And 242 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: even worse than that, if you didn't wrap them pretty 243 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: quickly after you bathed them every day or the other day, um, 244 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: they could start to lose their shape, which apparently was 245 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: as painful as the initial footbinding procedure. Like once your 246 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: foot has started to take shape, if you wanted to say, 247 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: now you know, I don't want to do this anymore. 248 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: It's just as painful for the foot to undo itself 249 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: because it's already like malformed. But there was like you 250 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: didn't think that. I think once once this happened to 251 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: you from your mom or whatever, and you grew a 252 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: little older and you started to take over for yourself 253 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: and you were bathing and wrapping your own feet every 254 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: other day. You understood why you were doing this because 255 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: footbinding was so important that you could be just completely 256 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: poverty stricken and some rich dude would still be like, 257 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: I like your feet a lot, and yeah, I can't 258 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: even breathe right now because your feet are so deformed, 259 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: um that I want to marry you. It's so weird. Yeah, 260 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: so there's uh and beyond being wrong and gross and 261 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: oppressive and all that stuff, it was just so odd 262 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: to me that that was like a turn on. Yeah, 263 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: and man, it was a turn on. Like footbinding was 264 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: highly highly erotic. That's like nice feet, trust me, I 265 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: get that. But the deformed, uh, I just don't get it. 266 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: But this is pretty much a national foot fetish um 267 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: and it was nationalized, it was cultural, and it was 268 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: extraordinarily widespread, Like we said, about three billion women over 269 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: the course of a thousand years UM bound their feet. Yeah, 270 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: and it had a lot of odd effects side effects 271 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: that went along with it. Um, when three billion people 272 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: do something that hobbles them, there are going to be 273 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: some weird repercussions. Yeah that you don't think about. Um. 274 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: One thing it definitely did was it foster dominance over 275 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: women because of the simple fact that a woman's being beaten, 276 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: she can't run away. Um. A woman can't travel very 277 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: far period, so they're going to hang around their village, 278 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: in their house, and so it just you know, it's 279 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: like hobbling somebody all of a sudden, they can't get 280 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: around as well, so they're just dependent on you, right, 281 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: and they really aren't traveling much. Not a lot of 282 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: traveling going on in your future bound um. And then 283 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: also the fact that you they have women with bound 284 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: feet had trouble walking UM meant that the architecture of 285 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: China kind of was created to help this out. Like 286 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: they had to lean on windows or walls. I mean, 287 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: so buildings were built close together so the average woman 288 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: could could you know, lean on a wall whilst she 289 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: was walking. Yeah, and there weren't a lot of six 290 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: story walk ups and in ancient China man that would 291 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: have been cruel. Everything was one story as a result, 292 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: so it Yeah, it had a weird impact on the 293 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: architecture and uh what else. Colonization, Yeah, that was a 294 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: really big one that Yeah. Um, you know, most people 295 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: realize that China didn't do a lot of exploring, um, 296 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: while the rest of the world was. It just kind 297 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: of isolated itself and shut itself off. And one of 298 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: the um reasons given for that was that the women 299 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: were foot bound and they couldn't travel like um, women 300 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: in other countries who could walk normally did um. So 301 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: with the Chinese women unable to travel, and um, I 302 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: guess see the sites, Uh, their men didn't want to 303 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: leave them, so they stayed at home. And actually the 304 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: areas that didn't practice foot binding are the ones that 305 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: actually did go out and colonize other places, like the Philippines. 306 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: They were so old Southern China, yeah, or the Old 307 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: West like every Great Old West show has, like the 308 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: one Chinese immigrant family with the ponytails. Yeah. Um. The 309 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: article points out, like we're being hard on it because 310 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: it's easy to look it's to day. It's some antiquated 311 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: practice is really cruel and unusual and weird, but um, 312 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: at the time, they and the women you know, wanted 313 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: their feet bound. There were great bonds between the generations 314 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: because it was such a cultural thing between the women, 315 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: they would sew their shoes together. Um. I listened to 316 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: this one MPR Fresh Air that interviewed some of some 317 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: of these old Chinese ladies that still, you know, are 318 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: some of the last surviving ones, and a couple of 319 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: them said, you know, I really regret it now. It's 320 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: been a lifetime of pain. But most of them said, no, 321 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: we wanted to do it, and this was I'm very 322 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: proud of the fact that we did this. Yeah, and 323 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: these are these are women who are confronted with the 324 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: outside world and they still feel pride about their bound feet. 325 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: You can imagine how much pride a woman had in 326 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: her bound feet while it was the norm, you know, 327 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: because it was basically the norm in China, and these 328 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: women weren't going out anywhere else. So if you had 329 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: really nice bound feet, that was a huge point of 330 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: pride for you. So one of the other weird things 331 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: we need to talk about is sexy time, because we 332 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: talked about foot fetishes and things, but it really like 333 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: something happened in the water at this time where Chinese 334 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: men really really got into it, and they would take 335 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: the shoe off in these odd deformed feet, and they 336 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: would like do weird things like drink the water that 337 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: they bathe their feet in, or put nuts between the 338 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: toes and beat the nuts from their toes, and uh, 339 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: just really odd things. I also read that it became 340 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: a another orifice. I guess if you can imagine, oh 341 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 1: really Yeah, and even outside of that, I guess one 342 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: of the more normal things to do is to bury 343 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: your face in the center of the bottom of the 344 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: foot and really get like a good whif foot boat 345 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: boat not to smell it and then chuck. We should 346 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: point out that if you're doing that, if you're burying 347 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: your face in the deformed foot of a foot bound woman, Um, 348 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: one of the things that happens pretty commonly when your 349 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: feet are bound is that they developed pustules that break 350 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: and stink, and so there is a I read one 351 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: guy a contemporary report from several centuries ago saying like, 352 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: there's no other smell like it in the world, Nothing 353 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: as sexy as a deformed foot with leaking, stinky pustules. Yeah. 354 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: So um, Yeah, there was a definite fetish that grew 355 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: up around it. There was a UM at least one 356 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: sex manual released with I think forty eight different UM 357 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: things to do with the um and uh there the shoes. 358 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: We didn't talk about the shoes that they play a 359 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: role in that eroticism as well, all about the strengthening 360 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: of the muscles. That's a big part. Yeah, yeah, apparently 361 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: the there was a theory at least that because they 362 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: had to walk so funny and oddly, that their vaginal 363 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: muscles were extra strong and thus more pleasurable to the 364 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: man UM. And then so the average woman with footbound 365 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: shoe or with with bound feet, I'm sorry everybody, UM, 366 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: she had at least four pairs of shoes you had 367 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: to or else like there was no point in in 368 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: having bound feet. You had to have one for each season. 369 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: Ideally you had at least four pair per seasons sixteen. 370 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: Some women had hundreds of these and they were designed 371 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: to really like show off, like, hey, look at my 372 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: bound feet, buddy. You know that's what they were there for. UM. 373 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: But there was one specific one that were always read. 374 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: They were your wedding shoes, and inside there was erotic embroidery, 375 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: which the husband, the new husband, and the new wife 376 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: would look at and like try out together. It's kind 377 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: of an instruction manual for the bride by her mother 378 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: or the women of the town, like just do this. 379 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: Here's a picture of what you're supposed to do tonight. 380 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: And slippers period. I think we're just was I'm like 381 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 1: the lingerie of the time, because they would the bedroom 382 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: slippers were more like uh, embroidered, like more sexily as 383 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: well than just your average like you know, I gotta 384 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: go to the shop and pick up some rice shoes, 385 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: you know. So the Chinese communists came along now and 386 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: his comrades and said, you know what, you're a woman. 387 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: We don't care. Get to work digging ditches and oh 388 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: your bound feet hurt you. Well, I guess you're gonna 389 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: starve because we give food based on how much work 390 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: you did. If you don't do the work, you're gonna 391 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: start it. Yet that led to the real conclusion of footbinding, 392 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: and apparently today they say with great authority that no 393 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: one does it any longer. Yeah, that's good to know. 394 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that it completely died out, because do you 395 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: think they'd be like some remote families here there. But yeah, 396 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: I mean we'll welcome to the modern age. This is 397 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: what I say. And that's just a bizarre, strange chapter 398 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: thousand year chapter in one of the most populous nations 399 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: on the planet's history totes and very few people know 400 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: about it. Well, now a lot more people do, right, Uh, 401 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: you got anything else? No, you know you can't, like, 402 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: there's no place we can direct people to voice their 403 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: outrage because it doesn't happen anymore. No, but I'm sure 404 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna get a lot of suggestions for female genital 405 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: mutilation and we should probably do that one female circumcision. 406 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: We haven't done that. No, we did male circumcision. I 407 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't think we talked about female I think we'd 408 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: like mentioned it, said we'll do that later. Oh, well, 409 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: there you have it. We'll do it again. Uh. So, 410 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: if you want to learn more about foot binding and 411 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: see some pictures of some um unshod bound feet, you 412 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: can type foot binding in the search bar how stuff 413 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: works dot Com and will bring up this article. And 414 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: I said search bar, which means it's time for a 415 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: message break all right now listener mail right, that's right, 416 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this. We're plugging something, okay, and we 417 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: when we asked to plug things, we get all lot 418 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: of people right in for like good charities, and we 419 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: can only do a certain amount of otherwise we'd be 420 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: reading charity plucks all the time. So apologies to those 421 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: who don't get there's read. But this is from Kate. 422 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: Have a nicht, she said, dory about saying my last 423 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: name wrong, No one does. If you just did you 424 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: get a fruit basket? I demand one. It's got to 425 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: be German. That's good stuff. 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