1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: What's up everybody, John Middlecoff three and Out podcast back 2 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: at it again. Uh, you know, just it's the off 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: season slowing down. I was like, you know, we'll do 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: a big Middlecoff mail bag. Do it every week. Slide 5 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: up into my d M s at John Middlecoff on 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Instagram and I answer your questions. Twitter handles the same 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff. The easiest way to get ahold of me, 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: I always say, is on social media. But I was like, 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: you know what, I'll talk about the f a couple 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: other topics that I kind of dug for, and then 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: we'll get into the Middlecoff mail bag, kind of keep 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: a shorter podcast. And then things got crazy, So I'm 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: still gonna talk about that stuff, but I'm I'm gonna 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: start with really the two big stories of the day, 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray announced he's going all in on football and 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Brown signed uh Kareem Hunt. Let's start with 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. I've been talking about Kyler mur he really 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: all year long, just because it was a he's a 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: fascinating player, he's one of the best quarterbacks in the country. 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: He won the Heisman, and he was drafting the top 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: ten in baseball. But I said last week, I said 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: the underrated part. I compared it to online dating. It's 23 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: one thing. And in football, you just all these general managers, 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: most of they didn't go to Oklahoma during the fall. 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: The coaches don't make any school visits during the fall. 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: So I'd say maybe a couple of coaches. I know 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and there there were some head coaches that 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: were at the Super Bowl, the media days, the radio row, 29 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: so maybe some of them kind of ran into Kyler. 30 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: But I bet there's a chance that of the thirty 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: two NFL head coaches and the thirty two NFL gms, 32 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: maybe a total of five have met Kyler literally shook 33 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: his hand and stood next to him in person like 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: that number is probably pretty small. Now, you know, high 35 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: level college scouting directors and a lot of people in 36 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: your organization have probably seen him. The decision makers have not. 37 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: And we we all can relate to any business we 38 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: work in, and at the end of the day, it's 39 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: one thing to think something and want something, but if 40 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: the decision maker in whatever department or business you work 41 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: in does not want to do that, it will not happen. 42 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: It's why you learn early on a business school, you 43 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: gotta get in with the gatekeeper because ultimately, usually the 44 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: secretary of someone that is a decision maker, you have 45 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: to go through her or him to get to the 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: decision maker. Now for Kyler, he's gonna go right to 47 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: the decision makers. Right he announced he's going pro and football. 48 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna rehash it because we've talked about it 49 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: a bunch on the show. Is the economics or a 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: no brainer? You get way more money, especially if you're 51 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: drafted in the top twenty in football. Lamar Jackson at 52 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: the thirty second pick last year got almost double the 53 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: amount of guaranteed money that Kyler got as the ninth 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: major league baseball pick. You also, basically as a baseball prospect, 55 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: you have to do with the equivalent of it like 56 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: an internship. To go to the minor leagues. You play 57 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: in front of nobody. No one wants to do that 58 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: if you don't have to. Now, if you don't don't 59 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: have any options, you're forced to and got it just 60 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: becomes part of life. Well, in the NFL, if you 61 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: are drafted, let alone draft in the first round, you 62 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: go right to the show. You play on Sundays. If 63 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: you're a first round quarterback, history would show us recent history, 64 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: which I think the game has changed dramatically. Not only 65 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: will you make the team, you're gonna start obviously we're 66 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: gonna make. You're gonna be the starting quarterback if not 67 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: Week one by mid October. It's just a it's just 68 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: a fact. Just look at the history. Hell, even Patrick Mahomes, 69 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: who red shirted, still played a game his rookie year. 70 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: I think about that. He he legitimately red shirted and 71 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: still played the game. And that was with Alex Smith 72 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: and they were, you know, the number two seed or whatever, 73 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: or I guess they were. They ended up being the 74 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: three seed. But you get my drift. So this was 75 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: really a no brainer. I still look back a couple 76 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: of weeks ago when Kylie went to the Super Bowl, 77 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: don't understand why it was so difficult, not just for 78 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: him to announce it, because again, the only way for 79 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: him to get drafted super high in football, he was 80 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: gonna have to fully commit because no one was going 81 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: to draft him high, especially top fifteen picks. If I 82 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: didn't get a commitment, I am all in. I don't 83 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: want to do both. I don't want to dip my 84 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, foot here in the water, but also keep 85 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: my other foot here in this this pond, this baseball water. 86 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm going all all my chips are on the table 87 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,119 Speaker 1: on football. That is the way he's gonna get drafted 88 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: the highest. Now, I think we need to pump the brakes. 89 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: A lot of people like he could go number one, 90 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: he'd go number one overall. I clearly you can't discount that. 91 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: But last year Baker, who I liked, I thought it 92 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: was pretty bold to take him number one overall. But 93 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: at least if you liked Baker and you love the bravado, 94 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: but you love the player. He had a comp He 95 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: was Drew Brees with a little bit better arm, Like 96 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: that's he was super accurate, smaller player, but a pocket 97 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: quarterback that threw darts and was just Teammates loved him 98 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: like it was easy. Now, he had been in a 99 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: little trouble, but you get what I'm saying. As a 100 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: player his comp best case. Now, obviously, the likelihood of 101 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: him ever becoming Drew Brees are still slim, even though 102 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: it looks like he's gonna be pretty good. But you 103 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: could go one day he could be like Drew Brees 104 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: with Kyler, he doesn't have a comparison. You go one day, 105 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: he could be a smaller Michael Vick, but more accurate. 106 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: RG three was six ft two that first year when 107 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: he was running around, right. I just think his comp 108 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: is a little difficult Now. I do think when it's 109 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: all said and done in the dust settles, he's gonna 110 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: go pretty high top fifteen. But as I said last week, 111 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: when you date on the internet, I mean people, and 112 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say girls, but guys can do the same. 113 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: I guess I don't even know how to do a filter, 114 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: but you can filter, and you can make it look 115 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: pretty good. If you're a chubby guy, I can only 116 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: do shoulder up pictures and you're like, God, you know 117 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: he's got a good smile. Turns out, you know, I'm 118 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: you know what if I'm really chubby, I'm not. I'm 119 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: actually you know, cutting down some lbs. It works both ways, 120 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: but until you meet the person in person right and 121 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: tell you actually see them. It's one thing to see 122 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 1: a picture. It's one thing to watch a dude on film, 123 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: and he was remarkable. Now you can tell he's small 124 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: on film. It's another thing to have him walk through 125 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: the room and you're just a six ft general manager 126 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: and you shake his hand and you got him buy 127 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: three inches. I know. There was just a Pro Football 128 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: Talk story that the Giants he's already a little too 129 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: small for them. They love huge quarterbacks. Do you think 130 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna draft a guy five ft nine? You know? 131 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying they shouldn't draft him, but this 132 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: is gonna be a fun conversation because it's all football, 133 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: and it's not character stuff. It's not a bunch of 134 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: woke people on Twitter. It's just can of five nine 135 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: guy playing in the NFL. And I don't think there's 136 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: necessarily a right or wrong answer on this. It's gonna 137 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: be a really fun topic. The other big story today 138 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: was Kareem Hunt signed with the Cleveland Browns. I say 139 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: this over and over and over again. I don't look 140 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: at the NFL or watch the NFL to have those 141 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: guys be potential with my children's role models. I don't 142 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: ask that upon them. I don't ask out upon the 143 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: management to set the moral compass for society. I never 144 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: quite understand why people freak I mean, I get white 145 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: people freak out. We constantly freak out about everything on 146 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: social media. But I I watched the NFL to be 147 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: entertained to gamble on it, to watch the best in 148 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: the business play football. If you're a bad guy, if 149 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: you're a great guy, I don't really care. Would I'd 150 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: rather watch a bunch of Drew brees Is and Tom 151 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: Brady's like high level guy. Sure, but that's not the reality. 152 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys in the Hall of 153 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: Fame that have done a lot of stupid ship and 154 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: if you knew all their baggage, you'd be shocked. I've 155 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: heard some stories and it's shocking. And I've heard a 156 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: small percentage of the stories. I mean, we know some 157 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: of them, right, Like LT was, you know, banging hookers 158 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: and doing crack. He's arguably the best defensive player ever, 159 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: so when I watched the NFL, I I never hold 160 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: him to the standard that higher than society. Like Kareem 161 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: Hunt didn't go to jail. I'm sorry, it's society's problem 162 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: if he's arrested, if he committed a crime, that's that's 163 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: not on the NFL. To figure that, it's not on 164 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: any private sector business, you were at a competitive disadvantage. 165 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: Now we don't know the suspension. He might get suspended 166 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: for a year, and it's all moot point. But if 167 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: he gets a four or eight game suspension and they 168 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: get this guy for half the year, he is one 169 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: of the top five running backs in the league. He 170 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: led the league in rushing as a rookie. He's one 171 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: of the best pass catching running backs in the NFL 172 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: in a league that really values catching the football out 173 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: of the backfield now more than ever. So some team 174 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: was gonna sign him. So again, if you are not 175 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: in that kind of little realm of you would even 176 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: be interested, you're at a competitive disadvantage. And you can say, 177 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: you know what, our fans would not stand for this. 178 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: That's bs because every single time. I remember years ago, 179 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: when the Seattle Seahawks drafted Frank Clark, Twitter freed, how 180 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: could John Snyder and Pete Carroll do this? And then 181 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: John Snyder, I remember, he kind of gave a weird answer. 182 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: It felt like they hadn't quite done the research, even 183 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: though I'm sure they had. I'll give them the benefit 184 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: of doubt, but Twitter didn't think so, and it was like, 185 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. Three or four years later, everyone on 186 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: Twitter is like Seattle has to resign Frank Clark. He 187 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: is too good of an edge rusher. We have to 188 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: franchise him. No one cares. You do not hear a 189 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: peep about it. You know what I haven't heard a 190 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: peep about is Tyreek Hill's issue in college. You know why, 191 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: because he's running go routes for touchdowns, because he's running 192 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: circles around every dB. No one in the NFL, especially 193 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: Kansas City fans, no one gives a crap. I haven't 194 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: heard one person complained, but all the complaining about Kareem Hunt. 195 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: Never should have got another chance, never should have got 196 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: another chance. Again, that is society's problem, That is not 197 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: the NFL, because you know what, if he wasn't good enough, 198 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: he wouldn't get a second chance. But you know the 199 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: way America works, if you are good enough, you do 200 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: get other opportunities. Doc Rivers once famously said, you have 201 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: to be better than your problems. And Kareem Hunt has 202 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: been a problem because he literally got cut in the 203 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: middle of, you know, one of the greatest Kansas City 204 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: chiefs seasons ever, not in the middle of towards the end, 205 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, and he was he had fourteen testdown seven 206 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: on the ground, seven the air. He was dominating. I 207 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: thought he was one of the more underrated players in 208 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: the league. But the Kansas City Fans, the best player 209 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: on their team beside their quarterback, was this little receiver 210 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: that had hit a hit his pregnant girlfriend in college 211 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: and got kicked out Oklahoma State. You couldn't find anyone 212 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: complaining about Tyreek Kill on the internet. Why because he 213 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: was on everyone's fantasy team. If you were a Chiefs fan, 214 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: he was kicking ass. If you were an NFL fan, 215 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: he was remarkable to watch. It was entertaining. That's what 216 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: this is. Entertainment. Like I I don't go to the movies. 217 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: I don't need to get my rap sheet on my actor. 218 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: I just don't care. Now you can say maybe I'm 219 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: not compassionate enough, maybe I'm not woken up. I don't know. 220 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: I just like I would hold my child to a 221 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: higher standard, I would hold my business partner to a 222 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: higher standard. But I don't hold the NFL to that standard. 223 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: They've never been held to that standard by the way 224 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: they've operated, and they never will be. Because if you're 225 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: good enough, if they think you can play, and you're 226 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: still really good they'll keep signing. That's always been the case, 227 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: it will always continue to be the case. Most people 228 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: don't have fourteen touchdowns in the bag. They can't do that. 229 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: If you could easily find guys and give you fourteen 230 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: touchdowns in running back. One of the most replaceable, you know, 231 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: players in the league, and it's still hard to find. 232 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: Like he's better than probably every player in the in 233 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: the league at his position that I don't know, four 234 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: or five Zeke Gurley, I mean the list is short. 235 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: He's that good. Kamara, I mean the list is really short. 236 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: There are probably three or four guys after maybe Levian. 237 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: You could argue I might rather have Kareem hunt again, 238 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: all things being equal, So you're not gonna find me 239 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: freaking out like John Dorsey deserves to lose his job 240 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: or the Cleveland Browns deserve to be condemned. I just 241 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: don't hold the NFL to those standards. I hold them 242 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: on a simple standard. I want to be entertained. I 243 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: want to watch the best players play. I'm not looking 244 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: for them to be role models to me, to my children. Uh. 245 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: You know, if you have a problem with that, parent 246 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: your kids better have them be a role model to you. 247 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: You know, if you're worried about Kareem Hunt standing for 248 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: the wrong things, like maybe don't watch the NFL, that's 249 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: that's your loss. I really don't know what else to say. 250 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: Let me tell you about my friends at robin Hood. 251 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: Robin Hood is an investing app. They'll let you buy 252 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: and sell stocks, et f s, options, and cryptos, all 253 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 1: commission free. 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Maybe I'm a little different. 277 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm definitely not different than most because the most people 278 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: are casual sports fans. Now, obviously I'm not a casual 279 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: sports fan. I do this for a living and it's 280 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: really all I watch. But I do watch it like 281 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: I don't really watch it for overachievers. I don't watch 282 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: like I struggle watching like act football games during the week, 283 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, I struggle watching bad NFL games like I 284 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: I like most people like watching Tom Brady or Aaron 285 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: Rodgers or Russell Wilson, not just the NFL but the 286 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: best players in the NFL. When I worked in the NFL, 287 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: I liked evaluating and talking about the top prospects. I 288 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: the six and seventh rounders didn't do as much for me. 289 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: It's probably why I enjoy the medium more because all 290 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: we talk about or quarterbacks and sweet players. We don't 291 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: waste time talking about like backup offensive linement like you 292 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: do in the NFL. I enjoyed personally that more. I 293 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: also like other sports, and I know the ratings. The 294 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: NBA beat the game. On Saturday night, I had some 295 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: money and I was just watching. Now. I got two TVs, 296 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: so I had the a F game on in the background, 297 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: but on my main TV with the volume, I had 298 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: the Rocket Thunder game on. But I do understand the 299 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: people's appetite and love of football, but it's hard to 300 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: watch football on any level, high school to the pros 301 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: when the quarterback play is bad, and the quarterback play 302 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: this league is really bad. I had a buddy text 303 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: me maybe Saturday night or maybe Sunday morning. It was 304 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: Sunday morning because the tweet came out I think from 305 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: Darren Revel about the ratings and the a F beating 306 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: the NBA, and he's like, and he's an NBA fan. 307 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: Two He's like, God, that's kind of crazy. He's like, 308 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: just peeking at one of the games. The best player 309 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: I saw in the game was a dude we cut 310 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: in training camp, So we'd be one thing if I 311 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: was watching this game and I got a pretty good 312 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: idea what it looks like. And I've been getting text 313 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: from buddies like how good are these guys? They're just 314 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: not very good relative to the NFL. You know, if 315 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: this was the minor leagues, would be like Double A. 316 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: But the differences in Double A. You get a lot 317 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: of guys with upside to be in the big leagues 318 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: a lot. Most of these guys were drafted four or 319 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: five years ago or undrafted free agents, like they they've 320 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: got their cup at coffee in the NFL. Now, that 321 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that some of them fell through the cracks 322 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: or overlooked, but it is so much more difficult in 323 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen to fall through the cracks with a 324 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: nine d man roster. So think about when I first 325 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: got in the NFL in two thousand and ten. It 326 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: was before the c b A, the rosters were eighty players, 327 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: and I think for the last like five or six years, 328 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: they were eighty players. Like two years ago they got 329 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: bumped up to ninety so multiply that by thirty two. 330 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: That's ten. Actually, that's three extra players. I don't know 331 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: how many players there are in this league, but hey, 332 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: that many. It might be more than three. But think 333 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: about those three players that would not be on a 334 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: roster right now might be in this league. So you 335 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: got guys that are probably fringe practice squad players that 336 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: are in the NFL that are not playing in this league. 337 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: I also think, and this is clear that I don't 338 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: know if they'll ever merge, but there is some connection. 339 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: Bill Polians talked about his desire to have it be 340 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: like the minor league. How about this idea each division, 341 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: and it's a little it would be difficult. I don't 342 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: have it quite ironed out. But let's just use the 343 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: NFC West for example. There's a team in San Diego, 344 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: the Rams, the Cardinals, the Niners in the Seahawks get 345 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: a developmental team, and it's in San Diego. You put 346 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: all your practice squad guys and maybe a couple of 347 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are either on the practice squad or like 348 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: a fringe late round draft pick that's like your third stringer. 349 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: They're on the team. So when I'm watching, if I'm 350 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: a Niner or Seattle fan, and they're playing the let's 351 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: say the a f C South team that has the Colts, 352 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, the Titans. You know, and uh, what team 353 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: ay missing? The Jags, the Titans, the Colts. What what 354 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: team am I missing here in the South? The Jacks 355 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: the Texans. So losing my train of thigh here. So 356 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: you're getting two teams. Let's say they're playing and the 357 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: team is just littered with practice squad guys, guys they've 358 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: drafted or undrafted free agents. They believe it, and you're like, damn, 359 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: that's if I'm a Texans fan, that's our six round 360 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: running back, or I'm a Seattle fan, that's you know, 361 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: my backup quarterback. And think about the quarterbacks that should 362 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: be in this league. Deshaun Kaiser, Kyle Louletta, Brett Humley's 363 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: those type guys instead of the metten Burgers and the Hackenburgs. 364 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: They aren't sniffing the NFL. Again, I watched the Pack twelve. 365 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: Mike Bercovici. He's not an NFL player. He has some 366 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: physical tools, but he doesn't sniff those guys ability c J. Beetha, 367 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: that's now the third stringer forts like he could use 368 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 1: this league. There are guys all over the league, you know, 369 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: that are like second and third string players that could 370 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: use it. Mason Rudolph, you know that was just drafted 371 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: by the Steelers, couldn't beat out Josh Dobbs, the kid 372 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: from Tennessee was the backup quarterback all last year. He 373 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: could use this league. Like, that's who this league should be. 374 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: And again, obviously I'm kind of jumping the gun, and 375 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: maybe we're headed that way, but I think this league 376 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: is somewhat capped because listen, I'm a football guy. I 377 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: talked about it for a living. It literally pays my bills, 378 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: and I struggled to watch because the quarterback play was horrendous. 379 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: I also think it's pretty hypocritical. I have never once 380 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: cried foul on the violence of the NFL. Maybe I 381 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: don't sound compassionate. Maybe I sound like an a hole. 382 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: And I like the big hits I watched for violence, 383 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: and the reality is most of you do to most people. 384 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: It's why from the the moment we're in like junior high, 385 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: when there's a fight, everyone runs to it. The moment. 386 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: Once you get to like college, everyone orders the fight. 387 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: They still order the fight as you get older. We 388 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: loved big hits forever in the NFL, and that became 389 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: negative like four or five years ago because the media 390 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: played a huge role in it, because they were screaming CT, 391 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: screaming concussions. It was pretty much on my Twitter timeline 392 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: universally applauded the big hits. It's like, you guys are hypocrites. 393 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: It's because you don't know any of these players. You 394 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: don't give a shit about them. Like I. I like 395 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: the big hits because I like big hits. It never 396 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: bothered me in the NFL like I. You know, listen, 397 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: I understand CT is terrible and it's a real thing, 398 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: and guys get injured for playing football. We get that, 399 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: but I watched football. I don't like you know, the 400 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: quote unquote classification of the NFL is somewhat real. Now. 401 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: I want my quarterbacks to be protected. I can't have 402 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: you going at guy's legs. I'm all for that, but 403 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: down the field like that, there is no such thing 404 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: as a defensive receiver. Let them get lit up. You know, 405 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: this is two thousand nineteen. People want it. I get 406 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: the big picture health of the league, but that's one 407 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: thing the a A a F has going for it. 408 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: People get destroyed and the media doesn't care. If I'm 409 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 1: in the NFL league office, I'm like, what is your 410 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: guys issue? You guys were bitching a monor about this 411 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: for years, writing books like promoting that concussion movie with 412 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: with Will Smith, and now you're applauding it. You know, 413 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: it's just it's kind of hypocritical. I'm on the right 414 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: side of history on that one, because I never ever 415 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm not bothered by concussions, and I'm not 416 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: saying they're not real and they don't affect people's lives. 417 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: But I watch football knowing that's part of it. It's 418 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: like when I eat a hot dog, I kind of 419 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: understand how it's made. I don't mind. I just put 420 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: a little catch up on it, put it between a bun, 421 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: my power, that bad boy down. When I watch the NFL, 422 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: I know it's somewhat dirty. I don't really care, and 423 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: the reality is most people don't either. So I hope 424 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: the NFL takes a takes a hint from the a F. 425 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: Get back to the violence. One of my favorite story 426 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: so far in this NFL offseason came out either Friday. 427 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: I might have read it on Saturday, and it involves 428 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: the Jets. Who I have said the Jets coaching staff 429 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: on paper, I think Adam gatee of all the young 430 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: offensive guys that were hired this offseason. Let's not forget 431 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: the unshaven under forty offensive gurus. He was the first 432 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: of this kind of whole movement. Adam Gates was like 433 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: four years ago when he went to Miami. Well, the 434 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: big thing with an offensive guru, you gotta get a 435 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: good defensive coordinator, right Sean McVeigh got Wade Phillips. It's 436 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: been a problem for Kyle with no uh with no 437 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: defensive Robert Salis struggled, Matt Naggy kind of just they 438 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: had Vic Fangio there. We'll see how good Chuck Pogano was. 439 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: But having a good defensive coordinator matters. Say what you want. 440 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: He's crazy, but and he's had some crazy controversies in 441 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: his coaching career. Greg Williams can really coach now. His 442 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: ego is probably bigger than half the head coaches in 443 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: the NFL let alone. It's the biggest assistant coach. Like, 444 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: he's got a massive ego. So when they first hired him. 445 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I kind of like this mix. 446 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: Now will the egos work? And then a story comes 447 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: out on ESPN dot com about how Adam Gaze did 448 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: not want Greg Williams to hire his son. And I 449 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: don't think football is really that different from most jobs. 450 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: Like a lot of jobs, nepotism plays a big part 451 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: in it. You do jobs, you know, you hire family members. 452 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: I'd probably argue that usually leads to more problems than 453 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: just hiring the best possible candidate. But that's life. That's 454 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: the way the world works. The one curveball on this 455 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: one is that Adam Gaze, according to this ESPN dot 456 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: com Rich Samini story, did not want to hire Greg 457 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 1: Williams kid to be a position coach, so finally he 458 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: just let him become like a defensive assistant. He did 459 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: not want to let him become a position coach, and 460 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: they kind of butted heads. And I think you're gonna 461 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: start seeing this around the NFL more and more. And 462 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: we we saw this last year with Todd Haley and 463 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson a lot of and maybe this has been 464 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: happening forever in the NFL. I just know covering the NFL, 465 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: I think it's happened more of these last three or 466 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: four years. These assistant coaches get so famous. These agents, 467 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 1: which there's three or four of them in the NFL, 468 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: have all this power, and these owners are kind of 469 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: so big on. If you hire the quote unquote big 470 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: time coordinator, your fan base pulls off you a little 471 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: bit and you get credit. Even though the most important 472 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: thing is in any business relationship, let alone a coaching staff, 473 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: is the interpersonal dynamics like do you get along and 474 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: do you respect? You know the assistant coach does the 475 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 1: does the assistant coach respect the head coach when you do? 476 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: Most times a rain marriages are not gonna work out 477 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: very well. They're not. They're kind of forced upon you 478 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: right now. I don't know anyone that's in rain marriage. 479 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: I've read about him. I knew. I had a good 480 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: friend who married a girl that was gonna be in one, 481 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: and she told her parents, no, it's the best things 482 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: you probably ever did you know? She'll tell you that. 483 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: You do see a lot of marriages happen probably on 484 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: blind dates or whatever. No different interview you. You don't 485 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: need to know someone before you interview with him. But 486 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: it seems like a lot of these coaching marriages now 487 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: between the head coach and whatever the opposite side of 488 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: the ball he has, you know, if he's an offensive guy. 489 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: Mainly nowadays they kind of force like the most famous 490 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator on him, And I don't know if that's 491 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: the right thing to do now, if it's the right guy. 492 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: Like vic Fan, Joe just gets along with coaches. He's 493 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: just a high level guy. Greg Williams butts heads And 494 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: clearly this is the period where you just get hired 495 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: on a new staff, you know, in the middle of 496 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: January or whatever, probably till like the draft is the 497 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: ultimate honeymoon period. Like it really is the equivalent of 498 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: a marriage where it's just times are as good as 499 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: they get, or like you just start dating, it's usually 500 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: the best time. Everything's fresh, everything's new, You're having a blast. 501 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: You know, the sex is great, every meal is fun, 502 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: you're just watching TV. Everything's cool to do. Eventually, that 503 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: kind of subsides, right, Well, if you're having problems two 504 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: or three weeks in to your hiring as an assistant 505 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: coach and already being frustrated with the head coach, this 506 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: is a pretty big red flag. Again, I like the 507 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: Jets coaching staff on paper. And I'm an Adam Gaze guy, 508 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: but I don't know if this thing is gonna work. 509 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this is already leaking out. The New York 510 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: is a market unlike any other market probably beside like Philly. 511 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: You know of just the aggressive reporting and just when 512 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: things once the snowball starts rolling down the hill, it 513 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: doesn't usually slow down with the steam. Right, It only 514 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: is gonna gain traction in these crazy markets like New York, 515 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: because it's only gonna piggyback. This is a story that's 516 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: not gonna die, and they're already off on the wrong foot. 517 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: And someone had to want this out whether it's Greg 518 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: Williams or Gays, someone wanted this out there. Now everyone knows. 519 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: So this is something to keep an eye on. And 520 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: I think you're just gonna see this more and more 521 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL, where just like legitimate interviews, I don't 522 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: know if they happen as much as you think, a 523 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: lot of these coaching connections now with staffs are all 524 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: agent driven or now all owner. The agent goes right 525 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: to the owner. You're seeing this. You've seen it for 526 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: years in baseball, right. Scott Borris always ends up going 527 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: to the owner and gets his money. Well, the agents 528 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: are doing the same thing you want, Greg Williams or 529 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: whoever you're you know your client is Vance Joseph for 530 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes. You're gonna make sure they get a coordinator job. 531 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: So if you you can go right over the head coach, 532 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: you go right to the general manager, you go right 533 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 1: to the owner, and you make it happen. And I 534 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: think usually these things like Belichick doesn't operate like that, 535 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: and he never has coaching problems right, and he doesn't 536 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: operate like that. He has harmony on his coaching staff. 537 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: When you have stuff like this happened, it's it's usually 538 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: not gonna end in a harmonious relationship. So just you know, 539 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: it's early February, just as we go in the off 540 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: season and then once the season, let's just keep this 541 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: in the back of our cockets here. This is something 542 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. And I think there's a 543 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: league wide problem that the Jets aren't alone in this. 544 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: You probably see a lot of these new staffs that 545 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: the that the general manager and the owner probably played 546 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: too big of a role. The guy that should play 547 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: the role is the coach and if your coach is 548 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: not a good evaluator of assistant coaches, then you probably 549 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't hire him in the first place. One thing I've 550 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: noticed as I've gotten older is I really only get 551 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: mad now at other people getting mad at stuff like 552 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm never the first reaction triggered. It takes 553 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: a lot to really anger me. And maybe that's kind 554 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: of a sad state of just how uh accustomed I 555 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: am to just weirdness, because that's what kind of the 556 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: world is. But it's hard for a story to come 557 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: out and me to get really mad. I only get 558 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: mad off those reacting, usually typically in the media, to 559 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: being mad at what just happened that triggers me getting 560 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: triggered at other people getting triggered. I saw a story 561 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: or last week and Brett Veach, buddy of mine, came 562 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: out and said, because there was a viral video of 563 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes playing hoops and it was sweet he did, 564 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: like through the legs three sixty in the whole sweet 565 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: laut and he kind of tongue in cheeks said but 566 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: also kind of serious that I had to call his 567 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: agent and we had to nit that in the butt. 568 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: And I saw some former players, and Richard Sherman, who 569 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: I actually respect a lot and thing is really smart, 570 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: started freaking out, like you can't tell players what to do. 571 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: That's not in this contract. You know we god, we 572 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: just former players. And then Twitter, you know, so pro 573 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: player and I got triggered off that reaction because it's 574 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: like Brett Veach was not trying to be in police 575 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: this guy's life. Brett Veach went on record before it 576 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: was sexy and popular to say, really kind of on 577 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: an island. I remember running into Coach Read last year 578 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: at the Combine after each talked Brett Veach verbatim, He's 579 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: the best player I've ever scouted. No One in that office, 580 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: including Andy, liked Mahomes as much as each Now, obviously 581 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: Andy loved him too, but that is Beaches guy loves him. 582 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: Clearly Andy loves him too. So if they're telling him 583 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: not to play basketball, it's not because they're like trying to. 584 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: They love him more than any fan loves him, more 585 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: than any player loves them. And I know that the 586 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: players love to virtue signal about player empowerment and player rights. 587 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: That's not what they were trying to say, simply for 588 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: the next fifteen years. You can change this franchise for 589 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: the next fifteen years. You can change the NFL. You 590 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: can win six or seven m v ps. You can 591 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: take this league by storm and do things. Clearly, it 592 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: already looks like that no one else can do. We 593 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: we don't just trust you. We think the world of you. 594 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: We trade it up to get you from I think 595 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: pick to pick ten. We are smitten with you beyond belief. 596 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: You can change y'all our careers. We're gonna do everything 597 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: in our power, as you've already seen to change your career. 598 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: We have your best interests at heart. I know players 599 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: love to think that teams have like ulterior motives with guys, 600 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: and you saw this last year with Kyrie, with Kawhi 601 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: Leonard with the Spurs. Different sport, but you see it 602 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: sometimes in the NFL, like their doctors don't have their 603 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: best you know, the player's best intentions on their mind. 604 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: They all they care about the team, which may be 605 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: true to marginal players. But I promise you one thing, 606 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: and you saw this year with Carson Wentz's injuries, the 607 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,239 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles by a country mile have Carson Wentz is 608 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: like his health, his long term future and everything player first, 609 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: player centric in mind when they look at him. When 610 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: Brett Beach saw him playing basketball, all of the cross 611 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: his mind is like, Bro, I don't want you to 612 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: tear an a c L or an achilles playing hoops. 613 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to control your life and have you 614 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: sit in and play video games all day. Clearly work out, 615 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: you'd be actively do whatever you want just playing that sport. 616 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: And I think guys would tell you as they get older. 617 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: I know you probably couldn't pay me to play pick 618 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: up basketball right now. I couldn't afford an achilles injury. 619 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't afford to put on forty You know, I'm bald, 620 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm single. I couldn't afford an a c L injury. 621 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't have the energy or the uh probably just 622 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: the ability to rehab. I'd be screwed. But I think 623 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: with Mahomes like Bro, you now we haven't trusted you, 624 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: given you the keys of the franchise, and you know 625 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: what everyone in this building, including me, Brett, Veach and 626 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: Coach Read are It's the best thing probably will ever 627 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: do in our careers is go all in on you. 628 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: We have your best interests at heart. He knows that, 629 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he's saying that. He he probably 630 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: completely understood. But the rest of the players, like I 631 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: promise you one thing, the chief saying, aren't out there 632 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 1: to screw him. And here's the other thing. Teams, just 633 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: in general, in any sport, when it comes to their 634 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: best players, they care about the best players. They may 635 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: not treat marginal players that well. It's no different business, 636 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: right You spend most of your time if you're in 637 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: real estate with your highest priced real estate items. You know, 638 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: if you're in you know, a sales job, you worry 639 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: about the clients that spend the most money with you. 640 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to America. If I if I have Patrick Mahomes 641 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: and I got a practice squatter, and they both, let's say, 642 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: have a broken toe, I'm probably gonna spend a little 643 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: more time with Patrick Mahomes than I am my offensive 644 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: line practice squater. May sound. You know, everyone's supposed to 645 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: be equal in this Twitter world, but I got news 646 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: for you, they're not. And in the private sector, just 647 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: like in the NFL, certain things are more important than others. 648 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: And I promise you one thing that as long as 649 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: Brett Veach and Andy Reid are alive and employed with 650 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: the Kanton Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes by a mile. You know, 651 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: it's the size of the Grand Canyon. Will occupy their time, 652 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: their effort, and they will have his best interests at heart. 653 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: Seven O. Hey, let's get to the Middlecoff mail bag. 654 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: He's just way to get a hold of me every 655 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: week at John Middlecoff insta d MS wide open. Leave 656 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: a question and I'll answer it. A little behind you 657 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: guys have been peppering them out, so I got like 658 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: fifty in here. Okay, I have a question about the 659 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. Do you think that Gary Kubiak higher for 660 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: the Vikings? Essentially running with two head coaches, like Zimmer 661 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: is the defensive head coach and Kubiak is the offensive 662 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: head coach, they would almost almost become co head coaches. 663 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: I would say no, because in Zimmer's tenure, he's the boss. 664 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: You know, he's got kind of a parcels in it's 665 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: his way or the highway. I think he hired Kubiak, 666 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: and actually I think Stefanski's the o C right. Kubiak 667 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: is like a basically uh a consultant type just to 668 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: run the ball more because in Kobyak scheme, they hang 669 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 1: their hat. I remember back when the Texans were really humming, 670 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: they were the best running team in the league. That's 671 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: what Zimmer wants to do. He wants to play defense 672 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: and he wants to run the ball. And anyone let's 673 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: listening to this show for a while knows that. I 674 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: kind of questioned that, like, arguably your two best players, 675 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: I mean, Daniel Hunter and Harrison Smith. I mean they 676 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: got some elite defensive players, but digs and feeling. I 677 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: mean we're talking beside Brown and Juju, probably the best 678 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver combo in the league. And you have a 679 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: thirty million dollar quarterback, like protect him and throw the ball. 680 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: So I know, it's not two head coaches. It's Zimmer's 681 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: way or the highway. I think he just views Kubiak 682 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: as kind of a catalyst to running the ball and 683 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: a guy that can really coach it and scheme it up, 684 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 1: which is what he wants to do. Because Zimmer doesn't 685 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: know the plays on offense. And again that's not a 686 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: shot at Zimmer. Most coaches on the opposite side of 687 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: the ball do not know the place. Generic stuff, but 688 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: not the place, especially when they're the play caller, offensive 689 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: coordinator or the defensive coordinator, as well as the head coach. 690 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: They are not into the minutia of the other side 691 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: of the ball. That that shows you just how elite 692 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: Belichick is. He knows every player's role on every play, offensive, defensive, 693 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: special teams, can coach every position. That's really why he's 694 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: on a completely different level than anyone like he literally 695 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: could coach long snappers. He could be your long snapper coach. 696 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: He could be your offensive line coach. He could be 697 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: your wide receiver coach. I think that really speaks I 698 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: hope people realize this. Belichick is the best position coach 699 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL at every position. Most coaches like Coach 700 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: Reid is a unreal offensive coach, right or Pete Carroll 701 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: unreal defensive coach. But they don't have anything to do 702 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: with the opposite side of the ball. That's kind of 703 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: a separating factor, uh of why they're so good. So 704 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: overall of your questions, nos Zimmer, Zimmer show, baby, do 705 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: you see Aaron Rodgers making a comeback and winning the 706 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Furthermore, do you think the Packers defense will 707 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: be able to step up? With JayR Alexander? Are the 708 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: Packers even possible landing destination for Levian and if so, 709 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: would they be good for him? It's a good question 710 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: will Aaron Rodgers win another Super Bowl. I've gone on 711 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: record I don't know much about this guy, and I've 712 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: said I went to the one practice in Tennessee this 713 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: offseason and it was really impressed by the offensive coordinator. Now, 714 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: then their offense was terrible all season for the most 715 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: part in Tennessee, and then his press conference he felt 716 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: a little over his head. And the other thing is 717 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: that Aaron, while statistically he had a solid year last year, 718 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: if you watched him, any Packer fan would say, you know, 719 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: something was off. And he's he's been in a weird 720 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: spot the last several years because we all acknowledge like 721 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: he's really good, you know, and he's one of the 722 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: best players we've ever seen, but it's like I demand 723 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: a little bit more. His body language is terrible. I 724 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: said this last year when it kind of fell off 725 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: the rails for the Packers. One of his problems is 726 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 1: he's not very fundamentally sound anymore. And as you get older, 727 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: your arm strength is gonna diminish a little bit. And 728 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: some of those back shoulder throws or those you know 729 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: throws when his feet aren't planned aren't quite as accurate 730 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: as they once were. The one thing when you watch 731 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: Tom Brady or Peyton Manning forever, their fundamentals are perfect 732 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: and rodgers Is are terrible. But he's, you know, one 733 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: of the greatest just pure throwers ever. He can get 734 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: away with it well. As you age, your arm is 735 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: not gonna be as electric. Will he get back to 736 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: the fundamentals of football? Will he let la Fleur and 737 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: this coaching staff get in his ass? You don't really 738 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: coach him hard. I I don't know. If he does. 739 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: And let's say La floor is the next McVeigh, then yeah, 740 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: they could win another Super Bowl. But if I also 741 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: think could go the other way, it really could. If 742 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: Laflora is over his head. I don't care how good 743 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 1: Rogers is to me. They wouldn't be guaranteed to be 744 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: like one of the elite teams. Now, they'd still be 745 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: good just because if you have an elite quarterback, you're 746 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: gonna be in pretty good shape. But I don't know. 747 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean the division is gonna be good. The Vikings, clearly, 748 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: I think kind of under achieve last year. The Bears, 749 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: even if they somewhat take a step back, they're still 750 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: gonna be really good. Just look at the roster, all 751 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: that everyone's coming back. So I think it's gonna be 752 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: difficult in the NFC just as a whole. The Eagles 753 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: are gonna be good, The Cowboys are gonna be good. 754 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 1: Seattle is gonna be good, The Rams are gonna be good, 755 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: The Saints are gonna be good. The Falcons are gonna 756 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: be as shitty as they were. The Bucks are gonna 757 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: be better. If God, if the Giants could ever get 758 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback. The NFC to me is on a different 759 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: level top to bottom then the a f C. The 760 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: Niners with Jimmy back are gonna be just more competitive. Hell, 761 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: they almost beat the Packers this year with C. J. Bethord. 762 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: So you just the the NFC is tough. Your margin 763 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: for air in the NFC is slim. The nun Your 764 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: margin for air in the a f C it's just 765 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: much bigger. I mean, we can count on one hand 766 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: the good teams, the Pats, the Chiefs. We'll see if 767 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: the Steelers, I don't even know anymore. The Chargers kind of, 768 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: but they're not really I do the Chargers in the playoffs. 769 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: Scare you know, I mean the Colts that they're good. 770 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: But Andrew Luck, if you get them outside, has just 771 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: not been that great in the playoffs, bottom line, and 772 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: a story like that's and I'm an Andrew Luck guy, 773 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: but he was terrible last year outside. Earlier in his 774 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: career when he played outside, he wasn't good. Now his 775 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: teams weren't as good, but he's not quite the same guy. Okay, 776 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: see if I can find another question here, John Love 777 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: the show. Born and raised in Danville, right down the 778 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: street from me. Question for the show. Not sure how 779 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: much you taught college ball? I talked in a decent 780 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: amount in the fall. Just right now. We're not going 781 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: to dive into recruiting my neutia, but I spend fifteen 782 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: Saturdays a year basically all day sitting on my couch 783 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: watching college football. So I I absolutely love it. We'll 784 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: talk it here right now. Curious on how do you 785 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: think the retirement of Urban will affect Ohio State and 786 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: ultimately the Big Ten. Well, it's gonna have a negative impact. 787 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: You just lost you know, five college coach. Ever, he's 788 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,919 Speaker 1: that good. So one of the things that he hung 789 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 1: His hat on was he was one of the best 790 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: recruiters we've seen ever, right, I mean the recruiting he 791 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 1: did at Florida in Ohio State was just top notch. 792 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: I mean saving level, like those two are equals. Now 793 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: Dabbles kind of their equal to there are just three 794 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: top dogs on a different level. And then clearly his 795 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: in game coaching, the guy was special. His teams were legit. 796 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: So anytime you go to Ryan Day, I don't know 797 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: Ryan Day personally. I know people that know him because 798 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: he coached with the Eagles. He coach here for San 799 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: Francisco for a year. When Chip came, everyone I know 800 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: thinks highly of him. But your first time head coaching 801 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 1: job ever at Ohio State, that's hard. Look at look 802 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: at Urban Meyer didn't he started Bowling Green. He went 803 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 1: Bowling Green. You taught then Florida most time. Look at 804 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: Saving Michigan State, l s U, then the Pros, then Alabama. 805 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: It's hard Saban didn't just started Alabama. That's that's asking 806 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: a lot. Because the pressure at Ohio State, it's not 807 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: good enough just to win the Big Ten. It's to 808 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: win the national championship. This year they won the Rose 809 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: Ball and as a letdown. Here's the other thing. Urban 810 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: Meyer had been kicking Jim's ass. So he's been winning 811 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: the Big Ten and he's been kicking his rival's ass. Well, 812 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: what if Jim Harbab beats Ryan Day next year? That's 813 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: the other thing. Ryan Day is gonna have pressure playing 814 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: Jim Harball, and I'm a Jim Harball guy. He got 815 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,479 Speaker 1: humbled by Urban. I don't think Ryan Day is gonna 816 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: hit him in the teeth quite like Erban Meyer. Now, 817 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: Irban Meyer is still gonna be around the program, and 818 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: who knows, maybe he'll be at sc next year. I 819 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: do think that would be a little weird, given that 820 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: he just kind of randomly quit. But Urban does weird ships, 821 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: So who knows. Question, do you feel the patriotscy to 822 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: sign a quarterback draft a quarterback this draft to be 823 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: mentored by TV twelve to take over well Brian Hoyer 824 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: who I think Albert Breer wrote about it in the 825 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: m MQB. The McQuary brothers were just raving about how 826 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: awesome he was in the Super Bowl prep getting ready 827 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 1: for the Ramps, Like, how seriously he took the Scout 828 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: team quarterback. He didn't just read it off the cards. 829 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: He lived it, he learned it, and he gave him 830 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: just an incredible look and it clearly translated because the 831 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: defense kicked Goff's asked. But he's not good enough. You know, 832 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: if you lost Tom Brady, I still think Belichick and 833 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: their team would be good enough, probably to let's say 834 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: Brady missed the season. They could probably win nine games 835 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: a lawyer, maybe ten, just because Belichick is that good, 836 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: but that they wouldn't have a chance a snowball's chance 837 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: in hell to win the Super Bowl? Do they need 838 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: to draft a guy? They got a first round pick, 839 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: they got two seconds and three thirds this year. I 840 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 1: think they could easily take a guy in the second 841 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: or the third round. The problem is when you're the Patriots, 842 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: is you want to win the championship next year. Now, 843 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: Bill always thinks big picture. I would expect them to 844 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: take with five picks on the second day, probably a quarterback. 845 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: I just don't know part of taking a quarterback, because 846 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: you gotta like one of the quarterbacks. You know, it's 847 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: one thing. You gotta take a quarterback high. Well, what 848 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 1: if Belichicks doesn't like him? And I'll give Belichick some credit. 849 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 1: He's been on the right guys for the most part 850 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: at that position. I mean, it wasn't Hoyer his find obviously, 851 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. He nailed that pick Brady. That was a 852 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: little weird, But I'm trying to think of some other 853 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks he's had. Mett and Bird didn't quite work. If 854 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: he's gonna take a guy high, he's gonna like him. 855 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is the highest I remember reading. He's the 856 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: highest quarterback Belichick's ever drafted. That's a little skewed because 857 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: they've had the same quarterback for eighteen years who's been, 858 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, the best player ever at his position. So 859 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: you're just not drafting quarterbacks high. But the one time 860 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: he drafted a quarterback high, as in the second round, 861 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: he hit a home run. It wasn't inconceivable that he 862 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,760 Speaker 1: could have moved on from Tom and gone with Jimmy. 863 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't really like the quarterbacks 864 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: that much in this class for second and third round guys. Now, 865 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: could he take like a Gardner Minshew, you know, a 866 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: guy like that in the later rounds? Why don't you 867 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: take a guy pass like the fourth round? It's you're 868 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: not getting a starter. You know the tom Brady's are 869 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: once in a in the history of the NFL. Right, 870 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 1: Tony Romos tom Brady's the six seventh undrafted free agents 871 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: come around once in a blue moon. The majority of 872 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: the NFL our first round picks at quarterback or second. 873 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: Just go around the NFL. I can just look in 874 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: the I'll just start on the West Coast. Russell Wilson 875 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 1: is probably the lowest guy third round. Jimmy Garoppolo second, 876 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: Derek Carr high second, Jared got first, Philip Rivers first, 877 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen fir Denver doesn't really have one, the Texans 878 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: first rounder, the Colts first rounder, Titans first rounder. Right, 879 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: you just start going to Blake Bortle's first round or 880 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,760 Speaker 1: James first round er, Drew Brees top of the second 881 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 1: most quarterback Eli first, whence first, You just start going 882 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: around the league. Most starters are higher round picks. Alex 883 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 1: Smith before his Lake fell off first, There's just a lot. 884 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger first, Lamar Jackson first, Baker Mayfield first. You know, 885 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: Flacco was the first. Most. Most guys are drafted high. 886 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: So if you do draft a guy late in the 887 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 1: in in the draft, I don't think it's realistic. You know, 888 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: the Niners last year they got Nick Mullins is undrafted 889 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: free agent. That is not normal. That's that's really more 890 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: of a testament to Kyle. I don't even know how 891 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,280 Speaker 1: the hell he did it. It's crazy, to be honest, 892 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: I didn't even know much about Nick Mollins. Then all 893 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's winning NFL games. It's incredible. That's 894 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: that's I give Kyle credit on that one. I give 895 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,359 Speaker 1: him somewhat of a pass. If you win NFL games 896 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: from Nick Mullins, I don't care who you're playing. You 897 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: win an NFL game with Nick Mullins, let alone two 898 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: or three, that's incredible. Uh okay, what do you think 899 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: that a realistic possibility for the Colts this offseason. I'm 900 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: hoping for DeMarcus Lawrence if he hits free agency. DeMarcus 901 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,879 Speaker 1: Lawrence an't gonna had free agency. Talked to a buddy 902 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,879 Speaker 1: in the NFL. The problem And I remember this when 903 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 1: I remember the first time I ever got to like 904 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: put the Magnets up for the free agent board, and 905 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: you're like, Hellodi, Nada, Logan Mankins. You know, all the 906 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: top sweet players at the top of the board, like, oh, 907 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 1: we can sign. It's like the NBA equivalent, like look 908 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: at the free agents Kevin Durant, Clay Thompson, Kauaie And 909 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 1: then in the NFL it's like franchise, franchise, franchise, franchise, franchise, franchise. 910 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: Of course you franchise him. So DeMarcus Lawrence is just 911 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,800 Speaker 1: too good. I think there's a sweet spot this year, 912 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: like d Ford would kind of be the sweet spot. 913 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: And just talking to people in the league, and I 914 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: know VICH said they want to keep them. Are they 915 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: gonna franchise him? Is he good enough to franchise? Probably not, 916 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: but he is a really good pass rusher. Would I 917 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: want to give him eighteen or twenty million dollars a year? No? 918 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: But you know, guys get overpaid in free agency. It's 919 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 1: this simple economics apply demand that the supply is not 920 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: there because all the top guys get tagged. So the 921 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,800 Speaker 1: demand you guys have all If you're listening to this podcast, 922 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,439 Speaker 1: you probably know something about the NFL. There's never been 923 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: more money on the free agent market. So there's a 924 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: ton of money. There are only so much inventory. Defour, 925 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: don't he's gonna get like twenty million dollars. I saw 926 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: last year in my own backyard Jerick McKinnon, who was 927 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 1: the ultimate role player. I was like, I didn't even 928 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: like him that much. Now there's gave him like eight 929 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: million dollars a year, and it really wasn't that crazy 930 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: because they were bidding against two other teams. That's all 931 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: life is, right if you if you got a little leverage, 932 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 1: your the price goes up. So to me, de Ford 933 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: is gonna be the big winner because DeMarcus Lawrence and 934 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: hitting free agency. How how do they let Frank Clark walk? 935 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: He's too good. Sod Ford's probably gonna be the best 936 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: pass rusher. I also think that Chris Ballard they got 937 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: a good thing going well. It's I wouldn't want to 938 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 1: waste money. I wouldn't be in the business of overpaying 939 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: above average players. I'd have no problem breaking off a superstar, 940 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 1: but superstars it's hard to get. Khalil Mack. Sorry my 941 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 1: phone froze here. You're just kind of stuck with the market, 942 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: and the market is typically not great. Texas A and 943 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: M has had the highest ranked recruiting classes in the 944 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 1: NFL prospects ever since someone was highed, but they have 945 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,959 Speaker 1: also underachieved with all that talent. Very true. After seeing 946 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher work this year in College station, do you 947 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: think he's the key to the Aggy's success? Thanks and 948 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,760 Speaker 1: give him? Give him? I like that, Uh, yeah, for sure. 949 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean Jimbo with Urban gone if Savings your top 950 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: coach and Dabbles one B and you could argue Dabbles better. 951 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not putting dabble aboff Saving, even though 952 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: he's beat him to a three years and kicked his 953 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 1: asses here. But let's just put those two in the 954 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 1: top notch. I put Saban in the next group of 955 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 1: probably say, you know, Jimbo, Chris Peterson, Lincoln Riley, there's 956 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: four or five guy. He's as good as it gets. 957 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: They've never had a problem recruiting. They've always got top guys, 958 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: and you saw this year. I thought they overachieved. Their 959 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: team was kind of weird. They clearly have talent. They're 960 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot more talent now that Jimbo is 961 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: not going anywhere. It's just he's gonna be there for forever. 962 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna benefit one day because Saban can't do this forever. 963 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: You think in the next year, or two Nick retires, 964 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: and when Nick retires, if they don't get Dabbo, that's 965 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: Jimbo's time, because Jimbo is a better coach than that 966 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: OS are on Now L s U will typically and again, 967 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,720 Speaker 1: this is the top notch of the top is gonna 968 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 1: have slightly better players. And when I say slight like 969 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: one team might have three first rounders and L s 970 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: U might have five. So this is the cream of 971 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: the crop. And if ell, if Texas and M does 972 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: it right, maybe they can have the equivalent. The hard 973 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: part about Texas A and M is even if you 974 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 1: crush it in Texas, not only do you have the 975 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 1: SEC guys that occasionally come over there, but that's a 976 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: breeding ground for Oklahoma, and Oklahoma has always kind of excelled. 977 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: And also Texas, I wasn't the biggest Tom Herman guy, 978 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 1: but I gotta give him some credit. He's actually pretty 979 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,720 Speaker 1: solid and I thought their team probably the most improved 980 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 1: team in the country this year. Just watching Texas play 981 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 1: start to finish, they're gonna start recruiting better. So it's 982 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be easy. But the A and m's 983 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 1: problem has never clearly been talent. It's coaching and I 984 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,399 Speaker 1: think Jimbo is a big time coach. Okay, last question here, 985 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 1: this is a life question. You don't want to do. 986 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 1: A life question here. Lifetime Browns fan from Sydney, Australia. 987 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,399 Speaker 1: Question about the future. Does the kitchens Hire basically let 988 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: Baker b Baker and he continues with the immaturity or 989 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 1: even gets worse, or does he say to Baker, Hey, 990 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 1: we're giving you your guy. You're in the driver's seat. 991 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: Take this team where we need to go and he 992 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: settles down and matures. I'm worried he gets exposed next 993 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,879 Speaker 1: year and the wheels fall off this thing. Well, there's 994 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: gonna be immense pressure on this team because I think 995 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna be one of the sexier just playoff teams 996 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 1: that people are gonna pick and really kind of blow 997 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: all off season. Once we get post draft, everyone's gonna 998 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: be picking the Browns to probably win the North and 999 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: be a team that's gonna compete for the playoffs. I 1000 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 1: can't remember the last time the Browns went to the playoffs. 1001 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 1: And Baker's a winner, comes from Oklahoma, He's used to winning, 1002 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: and I think they have you know, Nick Chubb, winner, 1003 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett kind of a winner. But Freddy Kitch is 1004 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 1: the first time head coach, and the pressure in the 1005 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: intensity in that city, it's not gonna be easy. So 1006 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,360 Speaker 1: the pressure is even either gonna kind of expose Baker. 1007 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: And I like Baker. I know Colm was not a 1008 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 1: big fan. I got no problem with him, but there 1009 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: is no dispute. He's got some maturity, and a lot 1010 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 1: of it stems from he's just got a chip on 1011 00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: his shoulder, and when a chip on your shoulder, guy, 1012 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 1: and you're young, it just comes off sometimes the wrong way. 1013 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 1: Like Tom Brady, he's forty years old now and he's 1014 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: skinny and Kale shakes his chip doesn't quite look the same, 1015 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, even though it's still there, probably stronger than ever. 1016 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 1: And I think Baker as he matures, it gets olders. 1017 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,759 Speaker 1: I know he's engaged right now, he'll get married. I'm 1018 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 1: sure he'll have a kid here soon. I think he'll 1019 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: gradually mature. We us men just were mature, you know, 1020 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 1: a little later in life. I also think when you're 1021 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 1: really good at something, super young and most of us listening, 1022 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,880 Speaker 1: I've never been anywhere near the point of He's basically 1023 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: been handed a franchise. He's the number one overall pick. 1024 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: He was winning in college like this guy's and I 1025 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 1: don't blame h I'm kind of feeling himself. So I 1026 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: would imagine if you're the Browns, you wouldn't mind somewhat 1027 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: humility to like, maybe lose your first game. Here's a 1028 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,359 Speaker 1: long way away from the season. But if it just 1029 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 1: because it could get away from yourself a little bit. 1030 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 1: If you just start kicking, ask to start like three 1031 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: and oh, then everyone's like, oh my god, the Browns 1032 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: are going the super Bowl. Then the wheels could come off, 1033 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 1: you know, with a couple of losses, but they're gonna 1034 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: be one of the most fascinating teams in the league. 1035 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch again. I think Baker is really good. 1036 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: But one of the things that made Drew Brees Drew Brees, 1037 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 1: and I think that's his comp was maturity and was 1038 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: focus and was just a burning desire to do things 1039 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 1: the right way. And I'm not saying Baker doesn't have. 1040 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: I don't know no one does, because it's we're gonna 1041 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 1: find out now because these next couple of years. And 1042 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: I'll even not give him a pass this year, but 1043 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,919 Speaker 1: he's still pretty young, first time head coach. You'll find 1044 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 1: out in a lot in the next couple of years, 1045 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: like what's he really doing in the off season? You 1046 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: know what Brady and Manning and Breeze and these guys 1047 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: are doing in the off season when when they're not 1048 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 1: instagramming or keep an eye on them, they are grinding. 1049 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,320 Speaker 1: They dedicate their life to it, and you know, you 1050 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,959 Speaker 1: got to dedicate your life to it. And we're gonna 1051 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 1: find out this year. I mean, I see in my 1052 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: own backyard, like Steph Curry has given his life to basketball, 1053 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: and it shows kicks everyone's ass. If you'll dedicate your 1054 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,720 Speaker 1: life to it and you have the skills, it's basically 1055 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 1: impossible to fail if you have the requisite physical attributes 1056 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: and you have he's clearly smart, if he has the 1057 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: work ethic, and I'd say, well, he didn't make it 1058 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,839 Speaker 1: this far without the work ethic. I I do think 1059 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,280 Speaker 1: when you get super rich and super famous, it can 1060 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: derail you a little bit. And uh, I hope it doesn't. 1061 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be the biggest question mark for 1062 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 1: Baker moving forward. Can you just stay focused despite all 1063 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: the hype. Now history would say he did it Oklahoma. Uh. Now, 1064 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: it's a little different when you're getting paid six seven million, 1065 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,920 Speaker 1: when you're making a ton of endorsements, when if you 1066 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 1: win a little bit, you'll get another big contract. I'm 1067 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: fascinating to see. I think he's one of the most 1068 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 1: fascinating players in the NFL. From from that standpoint, uh 1069 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen. Thanks for listening. Keep sliding in 1070 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: the d m S. If I didn't get to your question, 1071 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 1: I just had so many of them, and you know 1072 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to run over an hour. I'll get 1073 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: to him next podcast. Keep firing him in at John 1074 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,800 Speaker 1: Middlecoff Twitter handle, Instagram handle. Always answer you guys questions. 1075 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone interacting, and uh I'll see your Friday m