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Speaker 2: Rod and Karen a hot fear of.

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Speaker 3: Stray bullet's aside, any child, regardless of socioeconomic status, starts

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Speaker 3: off with an innate fear of insects, bugs, and other

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Speaker 3: creepy monstrous creatures. Nonetheless, young Project Niggas are taught to

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Speaker 3: cultivate Japanese samurai warrior like fearlessness when it comes to

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Speaker 3: living with roaches.

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Speaker 2: Why there's a ninety nine point nine nine nine.

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Speaker 3: Nine percent chance these kids are going to be roommates

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Speaker 3: with bugs until the day they leave their pists smelling

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Speaker 3: public house and residencies. Therefore, from a tender age, young

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Speaker 3: Cabrini kids got initiated into a gang of hardened roach murderers,

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Speaker 3: learning how to gang bang on those motherfuckers when they

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Speaker 3: when they encroached their set, living room, bedroom, kitchen, etc. So,

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Speaker 3: with all that being said, you already know a ghetto

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Speaker 3: bitch like Fred Kuisha was a certified roach hitter, concentrate bitch.

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Speaker 3: Fred Kusha thought to herself, kill these fuck niggas. Smack

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Speaker 3: Daddy Roach Senor went on to be with the Lord.

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Speaker 3: The front of his obituary red homegoing celebration for l

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Speaker 3: Late Daddy Roach Senior, sunrise May twenty eighteen, the sunset

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Speaker 3: for cover her three kids trailed here, but this letho

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Speaker 3: Fred Creshia shrieked with retribution colored in her vicious words.

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Speaker 3: Smack smack smack smack grewsome genocidal site. An entire family

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Speaker 3: growing problem. Daddy Road Senior had eighteen hundred and sixty

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Speaker 3: one brother, sister's, nieces, nephews, uncles, aunt and other relatives

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to the Black Out Tests podcast.

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Speaker 3: Your host Rod and Yang, and we are back on

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Speaker 3: a Tuesday, ready to do some podcasting. You can find

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Speaker 3: And this excerpt today is from the seminal work of

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Speaker 3: one Kwan Mills. Remember that I've been reading that this

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Speaker 3: well he had to change the time this whole Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it used to be this bitch guy roaches in

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Speaker 2: Uh in Fred Creisha's house. So very funny, good reading.

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Speaker 4: They wash that shit off of them.

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Speaker 3: So it's like I will hit anything with was spray.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I always find that, like white people have a

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Speaker 3: Like if I wanted a pet, I fucking buy a pet.

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Speaker 4: And nobody minds that. People don't mind you bringing your

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Speaker 3: If I remember correctly, the point I was trying to

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna be I don't really think about vegans

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Speaker 3: One time we went to a vegan restaurant and it

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Speaker 3: So we had raw vegan food that we didn't you know,

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Speaker 3: Since then, I've gone to a couple of restaurants that

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Speaker 2: So I think it's just a dietary choice.

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Speaker 3: People can make it moral, people can make it for

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Speaker 3: Like it's like most things, I don't really care because

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Speaker 3: But I mean, it's always it's gonna be jokes about anything.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how long Alex has been listening,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like they were what the hell I thought this

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Speaker 4: Jokes when it was gone, it was like, y'all niggas

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Speaker 3: And it's something that I don't like make every once

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Speaker 3: I'm not interested in being vegan, but I'm also not

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Speaker 3: Only I think that's the only time I've ever felt

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Speaker 2: Black people are not the only people to eat meat.

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Speaker 3: Everybody on this fucking planet just about like, unless it's

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Speaker 2: So more power to the vegans. You gotta beig held

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Speaker 3: And I don't share a lot of articles and shit

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Speaker 3: Acted justice Smoe Letters indicted again in alleged twenty nineteenth attack.

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Speaker 4: There's another retaliation. There's nothing other than that. It makes

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Speaker 3: I'm just I think they should let it go, but

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Speaker 3: more of a reason to leave them the fuck alone. Correct,

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Speaker 3: So I can see how, you know, they would want

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Speaker 3: my god, thank god they got Jesse off the streets.

440
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 3: No one's sitting around thinking about this shit. It was

441
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 3: really dead to a lot of people. So unless he's,

442
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 3: you know, unless he's continuing to like soothe them or

443
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 3: something like that. I just can't see why they would

444
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 3: even be doing this. So maybe and maybe more information

445
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 3: will come out it there's a breaking new story, and

446
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 3: we don't have much new information on what the new

447
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 3: charges are and stuff, right.

448
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 4: And and my thing is did he do something?

449
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:36,120
Speaker 6: Yes?

450
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 2: Was it fucked up? Yes?

451
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 4: And and and I guess you could change the word retaliation,

452
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 4: but it's one of those things like, why else are

453
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 4: you doing this other than you just want to attack

454
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 4: it out to keep it going.

455
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 3: Here's why I think they might be doing it. They

456
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 3: might be doing it to show up Kim Fox. Kim

457
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 3: Fox came between her, between her and Mary, between her

458
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 3: and mayor Lori Lightfoot. Those are two powerful black women

459
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 3: that came into office in the last like year or

460
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 3: so who shut this shit down both, you know, the

461
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 3: I think the police chief even had to got forced

462
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 3: out because Laurid Lightfield caught his ass in a lie.

463
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 3: You know, Like, I think this is the system bucking

464
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 3: back at these women who are part of the system.

465
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 2: Who you know, who are fighting back? You know, who

466
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 2: are you know?

467
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 3: So I think this might be more of an internal

468
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 3: power struggle because and Jessice Sma less just a pawn.

469
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 2: In the game.

470
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, he just happens to be a collateral damage.

471
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

472
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 3: And then the thing for me is like I just

473
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 3: keep imagining a world fifteen twenty years from now where

474
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 3: either one of these women is ambitious enough to try

475
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 3: to run for office and someone's somewhere it's gonna be

476
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 3: like nobody a prosecutor can never be president, you know,

477
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 3: when it's a black woman.

478
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 2: You know. So I just can see see how this is.

479
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 3: They're gonna end up being tarnished even as they're on

480
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 3: the front line trying to fight against this corruption, and

481
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 3: as the people on the other side want them gone,

482
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 3: you know. So uh But anyway, hope she uh, I hope,

483
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 3: I hope that's you know, whatever happens. I really hope

484
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 3: Jesse doesn't go back to prison, and I really hope

485
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 3: Kim Fox wins out when it comes to dropping those charges, because.

486
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 2: I just can't see any public good coming from this,

487
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,360
Speaker 2: right because.

488
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 4: I was gonna do it southing.

489
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 3: Chaos, speaking of lying ass black man taking it too far.

490
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 3: Governor Virginia Lieutenant Governor Justin Fairfax sues CBS.

491
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: For Gail King's interview with his accusers.

492
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 3: What honestly, y'all, it's the eleventh Can we just put

493
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 3: Black History Month in Rice and restart this shit? I mean,

494
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 3: I put put it in black Beans and Rice and

495
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 3: restart the whole goddamn Black History Month?

496
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 2: What is happening?

497
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: So, according to Dateline, he found a four hundred million

498
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 3: dollar defamation lawsuit against the network because of an interview

499
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: Gail came conducted on CBS This Morning, conducted with Vanessa

500
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 3: Tyson and Meredith Watson. This lawsuit said CBS recklessly disregarded

501
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 3: whether what Washington Tyson will saying was in fact true,

502
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 3: and that facts filed the lawsuit so that he can

503
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 3: fight these allegations in the court of law with the

504
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: protections of due process and on the level.

505
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 2: Playing field, he better win.

506
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 3: Here's the thing I will say, though, One, if this

507
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: shit is even true, because his whole thing was like, one,

508
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 3: it was two black women, two separate black women that

509
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 3: did not know each other, who both had similar accusations.

510
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: Two if it is true, and there's some you know,

511
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 3: because I believe this defense was like I did have

512
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 3: sex or tr sexual contact these women, but it was

513
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 3: all consensual, which is like impossible to prove three. I

514
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 3: really fucking think this is what happens when people took

515
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 3: the Kobe shit too far. I really do, because one,

516
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: you got the whole public will of we all hate

517
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 3: Gael Now she ain't shit. She hates black men. Forget

518
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 3: that she interviewed Harvey Weinstein's lawyer and grilled her last year.

519
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: But okay, we just you know, everything that could possibly

520
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 3: disprove the agenda, we're not considering it. And then we

521
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: had to turn it into Kobe Bryant was a man

522
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: who misunderstood con sent in a you know, in the

523
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 3: heat of the moment or whatever, and apologized told people

524
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 3: to believe this woman, said that while he doesn't believe

525
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 3: he raped her, he does understand that you know, she

526
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 3: believes that, and that you know she's not lying, and

527
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: he apologized to her. And you would think that that

528
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 3: would be enough for people to be like, we should chill,

529
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 3: But it's turned from you know, it's turned from like

530
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: Kobe had a you know, a huge mistake that he

531
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 3: made and he ended up learning from it and redeeming himself,

532
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: becoming a better person and dedicating himself to his family

533
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: and supporting women in in uh sports and all this

534
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 3: stuff instead of us taking that lesson from it, the

535
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: lesson seems to be now Kobe Bryant, innocent, Nate Parking, innocent, free,

536
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 3: Bill Cosby, three R. Kelly, it seems to be a

537
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: complete opposite message, right.

538
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 4: And and and that's the part that that that that

539
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 4: makes people buck back, because my thing is, you're basically

540
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 4: a lot of men on these bitches is lions. They

541
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 4: don't want to come out and say these bitches of

542
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 4: lion and every and nobody tells you about rape. But

543
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 4: that's what that's what people hear whenever you do this.

544
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 4: Because the thing is, even Kobe Bryant was like, hey,

545
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 4: I didn't think something happened, Well something did happen. I

546
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 4: felt one way, she felt another way. And the thing

547
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 4: is you put in the man's feelings over how she felt,

548
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 4: and if she felt a certain way, that's kind of

549
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 4: what matters, you know. And I know that for a lot.

550
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: Of men is one of these things where men go,

551
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to be accused of rape. So

552
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: since I don't ever.

553
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 4: Want to be accused of rape or and I have

554
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 4: done these things, this gray ish area type of space

555
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 4: here that I don't want any allegations coming up against me.

556
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go the complete opposite.

557
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: The truth matters right more than anything else.

558
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: And the truth is, we won't know what the fuck

559
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 3: happened in the room between two people. We never will.

560
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 3: People are gonna be accused of shit. We're not gonna

561
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 3: know for sure one way or the other.

562
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: You know.

563
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: But this idea of every black man is in Mattel,

564
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 3: there's never been a black man who's a rapist. That

565
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 3: The only time that we can even say a black

566
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 3: man is a rapist is that they rape fifty seven people,

567
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 3: so you can't argue it anymore. That's the only time

568
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: people are willing to give up, like, yo, this person

569
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 3: may have raped someone, you know, we just don't believe

570
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: that it happens one time.

571
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: We don't believe that. You know. One of the things

572
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: I found interesting is.

573
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: People go, well, Gail King and Oprah, you know, they

574
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 3: just really are attracted these stories because Oprah was a

575
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 3: sexual assault survival when she was not and when she

576
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: was fourteen, And I go, well, why do y'all believe

577
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: that did happen to Oprah at nine and fourteen?

578
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: Why do y'all believe it?

579
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: Because y'all said that you don't believe anybody that she interviews.

580
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: You don't believe anybody who's accused of anything other than

581
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: r Kelly or maybe Bill Cosey in many cases not

582
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 3: even those two. So why do you even Why aren't

583
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 3: you accusing Oprah of Lyne when she was nine and fourteen?

584
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 2: You're not, are you?

585
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: So to some extent, you do show the capability to believe.

586
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: So it's not that right. But you don't know who

587
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: Oprah sexual assault it was. You know, it was like

588
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: a family member or cousin. But they didn't play basketball,

589
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: they didn't start in movies, they didn't make good music.

590
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: So for you, it's easy to be like, oh yeah,

591
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: that dude's a rapist. The idea is that these popular, famous,

592
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: well liked black men are just innocent, all of them.

593
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: And I think you open up the door to shit,

594
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: like justin Fairfax being like and now's.

595
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 2: The time for the getting.

596
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: It's good because I really thought this dude would have

597
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: laid the fuck low. But maybe this new climate, he's

598
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 3: like time to strike now. I might be able to

599
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 3: save my career, you know, And I really wish I

600
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: could say it was a black man.

601
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: Thing.

602
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 3: I really do wish I could say that it's not.

603
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: I was watching the clip of Roland Martin's It's a

604
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 3: ten minute clip. I watched the whole goddamn thing. It

605
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 3: was Roland Martin's TV show where it was two it

606
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 3: was Roland Martin and another black man and two black women,

607
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: and I thought it was some of the most irresponsible

608
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: commentary on all of this shit. It was just a

609
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: bunch of people being like, shame on you, Gail King.

610
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna call her the same thing Snoop said.

611
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: But essentially Snoop is right, and so is everybody else

612
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: who was saying that all they do is attack black men,

613
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: you know, And I was like, it makes sense that,

614
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: you know. Roland Martins whole thing was like, we shouldn't

615
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: make it a man and a woman thing.

616
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: This is getting messy. We just need to stop.

617
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: But he wasn't really adding much to the conversation in

618
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: a way of fact, and the thing all kept thinking was, well,

619
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: of course not Roland Martin was the same dude talking

620
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 3: about birth of a Nation fell because black women went

621
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: support Nate Parker and go see his fucking movie, Like

622
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: we're the entire race is complicit. You got black women

623
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: who feel like we need to protect black men even

624
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: when black men do some wild shit, because they feel

625
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: like this is protecting us, coddling us is protecting us.

626
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: And then you have people black men who just essentially go,

627
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: fuck that shit.

628
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: Nobody's a rape. To shut the fuck up. Case was dismissed.

629
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: That's the end of it. You know. Meanwhile, we've seen

630
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: George Zimmer's walking around on the streets. None of us

631
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: thinks he's innocent.

632
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: Right, So we know that a quarter law and all

633
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: the machinations of the don't didn't happen, all the macinations

634
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: of the criminal justice system, all the leverage rich person

635
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: can put down on a person that is accusing them

636
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: of something, we know that that does not always equate

637
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: to justice. Let me like, here's the thing. People forget

638
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: about that Obie trial. And I really hate to talk

639
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: about this shit, to be honest with y'all, but I

640
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: feel like this is where we're at, so we gotta

641
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: go back over the shit. And they just literally put

642
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: him in the ground, you know. But what people forget

643
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: about the Kobe trial is the year where they essentially

644
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: drug this woman's name and reputation through the mud. They

645
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: forget that, you know, they forget that they named her,

646
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 3: They forget this shit, you know. And so then when

647
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: a person is too intimidated to testify, you go, she

648
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: didn't even want to testify.

649
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, no, shit, there's.

650
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: A lot of motherfuckers that don't make it to court

651
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: to testify. If a bunch of shit goes wrong before

652
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: the day of you go the day of court. You know,

653
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: Kobe was fucking sweating bullets on that she was gonna testify.

654
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: That was a last second plea agree agreement, you know,

655
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: or at least deal today reached.

656
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: Uh, it wasn't even a plea agreement, you know.

657
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: So it's just interesting to see people bring this shit

658
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: up because they conveniently want to revisit. They want to

659
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: recontextualize history into nothing happened, nothing to see here. He

660
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: was just minding his business and a white woman walked

661
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: in his room and said, you're a rapist. And you know,

662
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: thank God, that good innocent brother God, you know, got

663
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: out of this shit.

664
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: That's really all it was. That's all it was. God

665
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: has nothing to see here.

666
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: And I think it's because we want it to be sanitized.

667
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: We want his life to be sanitized. We want his

668
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: career to be sanitized, we want everything his death to

669
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 3: be sanitized. But that impulset is so fucking strong that

670
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: black people have basically become those white people who told

671
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: us to shut the fuck up when John McCain died, right,

672
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: And that's one of the reasons I was like, hmmm,

673
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: be careful what you fucking wish for, because a lot

674
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: of people are on the exact opposite side. I don't

675
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: want to talk about complicated history. You just die have

676
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: some taste, you know. The same people upset that we

677
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 3: couldn't talk about John McCain's history, the same people upset

678
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: you couldn't talk about George W.

679
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: Bush's history, you know.

680
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: And while Kobe might not have been president, he was

681
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: a super popular person, a mega superstar on this earth.

682
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: So you want a person that can say, you can

683
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: say one name and everyone knows who the fuck you're

684
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: talking about. If you didn't think this shit was gonna

685
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: come up, if you didn't think a question would be asked,

686
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: it's really on you. And I really feel like a

687
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: lot of the cost of this is stupid shit like

688
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: this with you know, justin Fairfax being like, hey, people

689
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: want to believe black men are innocent so over anything.

690
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 3: So I they ain't got me on tape, I ain't

691
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: do shit, you know, so I wouldn't be surprised if

692
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 3: that's the motivation behind it. Now, all that being said,

693
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: I know I just said a whole lot of shit.

694
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: But of course, the other alternative is that somehow he's innocent.

695
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: These two women randomly accused him sexual assault and he

696
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: just out of nowhere for no reason, and he's gonna

697
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: go to court and prove beyond the shadow of a

698
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: doubt he's completely innocent, which I don't know how you

699
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: can prove that, but he's gonna do it. So let's

700
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: just leave some room for that possibility too. But I

701
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: really feel like this whole attack on Gail King has

702
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: really inspired people to be a little bit more bold

703
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: because they know all I gotta do is say, hey,

704
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: I didn't do it, so we'll see what happens, man.

705
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: You know, always in this case, I mean, the best

706
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: possible case scenario is that they.

707
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 2: Didn't do it.

708
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 3: And it's you know, I'm never rooting for anyone to

709
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: be a rapist, to be honest with y'all, right, but

710
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: you know, it just it just seems like everything's so

711
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: polarized now. And you know, at the end of the day,

712
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: black people en mass are always gonna pick black men

713
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: over everything, when the straight black men over everything, when

714
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: it comes to the quote unquote good or the race,

715
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 3: that that's gonna always happen.

716
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it can be very, very, very frustrating because

717
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 4: you know, according to their logic and black men don't rape. Well,

718
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 4: it's a whole lot of black women. I know a

719
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 4: lot of black women, and most of them I've interact with,

720
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 4: and ones we have talked about it have been some

721
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 4: victim of some type of sexual assault by somebody, and

722
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 4: os Are is a black man. Not all of them,

723
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 4: but os Are is somebody black because you have the

724
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 4: closest proximity to black women.

725
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I mean, and in this case it

726
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: is white women. So it makes it easier for people

727
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 3: to do the immit tale shit. But we all know

728
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: the circumstance behind Emmett till we know he was innocent.

729
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 3: This is not somebody whistling at a white woman. People

730
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 3: like it's just I don't know, man, I just feel

731
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 3: like people need to really be a little more a

732
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: little more thoughtful in their approach to this, or at

733
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: least I would like to see that.

734
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: I don't think people will be.

735
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 3: But I think as long as you're a black man

736
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: and you can always just play the black man card

737
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: and most people will fall in line and be like,

738
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: you didn't do nothing wrong, you innocent. The world is

739
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: out to get you, and we can roll. We can

740
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 3: fight on that, you know. Speaking of which, Ari Lennox

741
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: apologizes for bashing gel King and Oprah Winfrey and leaves

742
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 3: social media.

743
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 4: I ain't did something pop up with her before?

744
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: Several things.

745
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: Okay, the first thing is, uh, she's the one who

746
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 3: got mad.

747
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: About the Soul Train Awards awarding Lizzo.

748
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 4: Dad was her because I was like, I've heard that

749
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 4: name before.

750
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then she went on the Twitter rant while

751
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 3: claiming to not want to ufend Lizzo or that it

752
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: wasn't about Lizzo. But it's no possible way Lizzo couldn't

753
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 3: have been a There's no way it couldn't have been

754
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: taken personally by the person who fucking won the award.

755
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: It's just impossible. It's literally impossible.

756
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: And people were defending it because they like her album

757
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: or they you know this thing they do or they

758
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: like a celebrity because of their Instagram and shit, and

759
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 3: you know, and so now it's because you do that

760
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: that they can't never do nothing wrong, you know that shit,

761
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: And so I saw people defending it. I obviously didn't

762
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: want to participate in that conversation online or even on

763
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 3: the show, but it's like whatever, you know, good album.

764
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,479
Speaker 2: It put me on her.

765
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: Album, but yeah, that shit seemed kind of whack to me.

766
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 3: Then the next thing was she was crying. I didn't

767
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: even cover.

768
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: This on the show. I don't remember.

769
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 3: Maybe I did. We covered so much shit. It's probably

770
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: still that fuck with black people somewhere.

771
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: But she said that.

772
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: She was tired of like men, black men talking bad

773
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 3: about black women. Somebody said she looked like a dog

774
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 3: or something like a Dobeman pincher or some type of

775
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 3: dog pitople and then she got offended by and was like,

776
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 3: or maybe someone said Tianna Taylor looked like, it's something

777
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: like that. To the she got offended by and was like,

778
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 3: I'm tired of people talking about our bodies and saying

779
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: how we look and so mean and hurtful and you know,

780
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 3: calling us out of our name and the disrespect is

781
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: just blah blah blah, And you know, absolutely understood how

782
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 3: she was hurt by that and totally agree with her.

783
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 3: And of course, you know, being on social media, you

784
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: see ship like that because you're on there and people

785
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: are fucking evil and they're gonna find you. So you

786
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: would think her having been subjected to that, she would

787
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: she would, she would know what it's like. So, you know,

788
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: the Gail King clip posted with Lisa Leslie and people

789
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: start chiming in. Lenox went on Instagram Live to voice

790
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: her opaying about Gail and Oprah in a profanity laced rent,

791
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: calling them some self hating piece of shit fuck asses.

792
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: Linux has since seemed to have a change of heart,

793
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: taking a tumblr page Tumblr page.

794
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: Who's still on Tumblr?

795
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: So I guess Instagram live is for cussing people out

796
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 3: and tumbles for apologies, so.

797
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: Know, ain't nobody gonna see it?

798
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, she took the tumblr to a heartfelt apology and

799
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: now she's leaving social media. I'm sorry, I'll acting like

800
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: an ass. I impulsedly spiraled because I was sick of

801
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: seeing distaste for Shade, especially as such a terrible, sad

802
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 3: time towards someone I know is a good person.

803
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for triggering people.

804
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: I'm sorry for causing any tryum, I'm sorry for victim

805
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: shaming swearing that wasn't my tent.

806
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the other thing.

807
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: You can't defend Kobe from this without getting into some level.

808
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: Of victim shaming, right, because.

809
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: You're essentially saying, even though he said that he believes

810
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: that that woman truly believes he sexually sad to her,

811
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: even if he felt that that that it was a

812
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: consensual situation, you can't dismiss her without saying, essentially, bitchline,

813
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 3: he right fucked that his opinion of what counts is

814
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: the only one that counts.

815
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: Lennox said that social.

816
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: Media led to her words being misconstrued, explaining, it's not

817
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: conduct conducive to healthy and productive conversations.

818
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: I believe you. I don't know that.

819
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: Colin and Collin, Oprah and Gal self hating pieces of

820
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: shit fuck asses is necessarily misconstrued, but I feel you

821
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: on that. You know it could be taken out of

822
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: context or something. For this, uh, for this reason, she said,

823
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: she's decided to leave social media or Twitter page has

824
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: already been perised of everything except the tweet with the

825
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 3: link of her apology.

826
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: I'm excited to have.

827
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: Social to leave social media for good, she wrote them,

828
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 3: Excited to for suit, true self, love, healing, understanding, the peace.

829
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: To all the people who check me from a place.

830
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: Of love, I love you forever and I hear you,

831
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: and I'm deeply empathized more than you ever know.

832
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 2: I love to keep conversation going in real life. Man.

833
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 3: A lot of these people's leaving social media, man, and

834
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 3: I mean it. I mean the irony there is palpable,

835
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 3: because it's like dog, you literally was crying over people

836
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: said black women's dogs, and then you're aligning yourself on

837
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 3: the same side as Snoop who called this woman a

838
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: dog headed bitch or something like that.

839
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: Like it's all bad, you know.

840
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 3: So yeah, I hope she can get be happy and

841
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 3: be away from social media, because I do things. Watching

842
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 3: this shit go up and down your timeline and it

843
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: becoming a conversation of the day, it really will drive

844
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: you to feel like you have to say something right.

845
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 3: It has to be bombasket, and you gotta get on

846
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: social media contribute, and yeah, dog, it's not good, you know,

847
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: like y'all you say these fucked up things about these people,

848
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: and I mean it's Gail and fucking Oprah people act.

849
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 3: That's the other thing, people acting like they never gonna

850
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 3: need Gail and Oprah again. Right, that's gonna be super

851
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 3: wild to see people have to come back around to

852
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 3: their senses, like, oh, that's right.

853
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: We're talking about two powerhouse.

854
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 3: Gatekeeper slash people that have done a lot for black

855
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: folks in general.

856
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 4: Right, and you don't know who knows who dollars.

857
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: Right, cause we're mad.

858
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: Now we can say I want to kill this bitch

859
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: and then turn around and when it's time for them

860
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 3: to promote some project next year, you're gonna be mad

861
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: if they turn their backs.

862
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 2: Right, We're gonna ignore the millions of dollars they.

863
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: Put back into the community, the black people, oh, the

864
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 3: black men Oprah put through more house. We're gonna just

865
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 3: ignore all of that shit for the convenience of a

866
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: hot take. Because she went against some no motherfucking rapi

867
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 3: ass niggas and Michael Jackson, r Kelly Russell Simmons, she like,

868
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: I actually felt a little bit sad when with Opra

869
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 3: dropped Russell Simmons documentary Me too, because I was like, man,

870
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: that's actually kind of fucked up that people was able

871
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: to shame her out of being a part of that.

872
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: And it's like, but so then essentially, listen, what we're

873
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: telling you is if we can make it unpopular enough

874
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 3: to talk about someone's sexual assault accusations, then you don't

875
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 3: get to talk about it.

876
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: We just have to make it.

877
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: You know, uncomfortable enough for you to say, all right,

878
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: I don't want it.

879
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 4: That's it, right, But it doesn't mean a rape didn't happen.

880
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 4: You just want people to shut the fuck up, unless

881
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 4: it's you or your family members.

882
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

883
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 3: So I just felt it was completely you know, and

884
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: maybe she got caught up in that. I mean, I

885
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: forget how old Ari Lennox is, but she's not that old.

886
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of these young black women

887
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: no name Summer Walker, a lot of these women are

888
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 3: experiencing the negative side. We know black women get the

889
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 3: worst part of social media, and they're experiencing the shit.

890
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 3: And I see why a lot of them are leaving

891
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 3: it for their own mental health, taking a lot of breaks, leave,

892
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: you know, leaving it for good, and shit, I don't

893
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: blame them at all. Now I do have a more complicated,

894
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: maybe nuance point and I'm not one hundred cent shry

895
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: out of words for all of it, but I'm gonna.

896
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 2: Try to express it here.

897
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that someone who is been victimized or

898
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 3: survived sexual assault of somebody wouldn't necessarily want to have their.

899
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 2: Life, name, memory whatever.

900
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: Use as a pond to smear that person's name on

901
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: the day that person dies. I'm not sure that that

902
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 3: impulse is a heroic impulse. And if it is one

903
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 3: the hero of who championing who?

904
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 2: Are y'all like, are we sure that that's the thing

905
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 2: that people want? You know what I mean?

906
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 3: Like if somebody did something horrible to me and then

907
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 3: they died, and I'm somewhere minding my fucking business, not

908
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: talking to anyone about it, and all of a sudden,

909
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: my name's trending on Twitter and every media reporter is

910
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 3: about it.

911
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 4: I'm getting phone calls and emails ask me questions about

912
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 4: the shit.

913
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 3: Like read traumatizing me. Possibly, are we sure that that's

914
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: what people want?

915
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: I just don't know that.

916
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 3: I don't know that we've ever had that quote unquote conversation.

917
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: I don't and I know that the people doing it,

918
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 3: they're not doing it on the goodness of that heart're

919
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: not doing it about Yeah, they're not doing it for

920
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 3: those positive reasons.

921
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 2: It seems to be very petty.

922
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 3: It seems to be very much about viralness on social media.

923
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 3: It seems to be about these gotcha moments and shit.

924
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 3: So I really do want to know, like do people like,

925
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: have we done any research to be like and survivors

926
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 3: are actually you know, this is what they want, you know,

927
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: Like people talk about restorative justice and shit, But to me,

928
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: what I'm seeing out of people right now is more

929
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: about vengeance.

930
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 4: Correct, because it's different if somebody dies in the victim

931
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 4: themselves come out and speak, that's completely different. But these

932
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: are people that are not associated.

933
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: Don't know these people, and you're just using it as

934
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: just because you can't do because it's the topic of

935
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: the goddamn day.

936
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: Cause like that was the one level where I really

937
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,959
Speaker 3: understood how people could be like it's distasteful for Gail

938
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 3: King to bring this up and stuff like that. Like

939
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 3: I said, I don't agree that she should be harassed,

940
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: but I think if you know, if there's a lot

941
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: of questions that are distaste where they get asked all

942
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: the time with people and we understand part of the job.

943
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 3: I never had a problem with her doing her job,

944
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: but I could understand someone who did say I just

945
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: thought it was distasteful and I.

946
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: Didn't like it. Cool. You don't have to like it.

947
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: You know. There's a lot of questions and shit that

948
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: get asked in.

949
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: The media and you go, I mean, it's good that

950
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: you ask that question, but at the same time, kind

951
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 3: of make sure a certain type of person even be

952
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 3: the one who wants to ask that question told to

953
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 3: get it.

954
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: But the impulse that it seems and it's not just

955
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: what see, this is the thing.

956
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 3: It's easy to talk about it with Kobe because everybody

957
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: got Kobe fresh on the brain and they liked him. Right, Okay,

958
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 3: it's easy, But this is the shit I'm talking about.

959
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: When I'm like, I'm leaving Ellensonton with George Bush. It's

960
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: off limits to me. You know, I don't I'm not

961
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: doing that, Michelle Obama Shan Candy with this motherfucker. I'm

962
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: not doing it. That's off limits to me. There's allotment

963
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: for humanity I have to have or I would go

964
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 3: fucking crazy, and she will. You know, there's a certain

965
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: level of like Okay, that's where within the purview of

966
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 3: what people commonly do all the time, and I have

967
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: to leave it at that, you know, because if not,

968
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: I just can't expect people to be that fucking vigilant

969
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: at all times, because Twitter seems to be that vigilant,

970
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 3: or Facebook seems to be that vigilant. But like, even

971
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: when Kirk Douglas died, people were bringing up Natalie Woods

972
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 3: and being like, he's brutally sexually assaulted her when she

973
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: was fifteen, you know, sixty years ago, shit more than that.

974
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: But however, many years ago, and I went and looked

975
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: it up because I was like, oh my god, he did.

976
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 3: And I mean, there's a rumor that he did. There's

977
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: a blog that never mentioned anyone by name that we

978
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: don't know who started the blog. When people speculated Robert

979
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 3: Downey Jr. Like nobody knows if that's necessarily true or not.

980
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 3: They know that she was sexually assaulted, She talked about

981
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 3: she talked about it with close friends, and she never

982
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 3: named names. And she died at like forty one, or

983
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: she died of some age, but she didn't thirty eight.

984
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: I think didn't get to like, you know that she

985
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 3: never said but like when her when he she passed,

986
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 3: so you know, obviously hopefully she would not you know,

987
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 3: there's no way she could.

988
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: Be traumatized on this.

989
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 3: But when he died, his name was trended in and

990
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 3: then her name was trened in on Twitter. And I

991
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: was thinking on myself, like, who was that even for right,

992
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: that's definitely not for her, you know, And and like

993
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: I said, the assumption is that all survivors are the

994
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: same mentality. And and I'm okay, this is the best.

995
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: This is the best analogy, and I'll move on. This

996
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: is the best analogy because someone brought this to me.

997
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 3: Uh we was recording balls deep and or maybe we

998
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 3: figured out on the air, maybe someone rode in. But

999
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: it's a great it was a great fucking point. So

1000
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns were playing the Pittsburgh Steelers. Everybody knows

1001
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger plays for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's been accused

1002
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 3: of sexual assault several fucking times. Right, and Cleveland had

1003
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 3: a radio ad that basically said he was a raveist.

1004
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 3: Like that was the thing, like there was essentially the

1005
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 3: joke of the ad, or the hook of the ad

1006
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 3: was something about how you know, like be careful around

1007
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: around him, don't leave your woman around Ben Roethlisberger. You

1008
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 3: know something that to me and justin we was like ooh,

1009
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 3: somebody finally called him out. But then, like I said,

1010
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 3: I can't remember if like someone wrote in or I

1011
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: can't remember if we just was going through the through

1012
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: the logic of it on the show, and it was like,

1013
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: wait a minute, Cleveland's no better. Cleveland wouldn't have said

1014
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 3: that if Ben Roethlisberger played on their team. Agreed, if

1015
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger was a Cleveland Brown, they wouldn't give a.

1016
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: Fuck about his sexual assault, Like and he was good.

1017
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 3: At the time, so like they would have traded anything

1018
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: to have Ben Roethlisberger starting for them at quarterback rather

1019
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 3: than Brian Hoyer or whoever it was that year. So

1020
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: you had to stop me think so then why did

1021
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 3: they say it? It's like, oh wait, this is not

1022
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: about survivors. This is not about sexual assault and trauma.

1023
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 3: This is not about justice. This is about using something

1024
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 3: as a pawn, using a person something that really happened

1025
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 3: to somebody as a pawn in your own like personal

1026
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 3: enjoyment and entertainment, right, And I can't help but be

1027
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: a bit cynical and wonder if that's not what the

1028
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 3: fuck we're witnessing with a lot of this stuff of

1029
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 3: so and so, Because let's take it a step further.

1030
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: This ain't this is someone's death. But let somebody win

1031
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 3: an award, Let someone get invited to somewhere and it's

1032
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 3: the most the highest honor of their professional career.

1033
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: Guess what's gonna be happening on Twitter?

1034
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 3: Something about the mistake they made, something about the worst

1035
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 3: thing they've ever done, something about a tweet.

1036
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 2: Something, Something is gonna come.

1037
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: Up to be like, well, I remember back in two

1038
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: thousand and one when this motherfucker said blah blah blah,

1039
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 3: that's what people do now, Yes it is, you know,

1040
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 3: and so I don't know that that's about justice.

1041
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: I don't know that that's about fairness, equality. I don't.

1042
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 3: It's literally like, because we have the power to bring

1043
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 3: you back lowest to your lowest, worst moment, we can't

1044
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: ever fucking let it go. We have to drag you

1045
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 3: down to the lowest fucking moment. It doesn't matter if

1046
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 3: it's true, it doesn't matter, just the fact that we

1047
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 3: know some.

1048
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: Shit fact that we all say about you.

1049
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 3: We will find the thing, you know, and so it's

1050
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 3: just kind of, you know, it's just kind of in

1051
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 3: a way, it's a thing that I felt like it

1052
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: should bring us all a shared place of humanity when

1053
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 3: we go. We all made these mistakes, but it doesn't

1054
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 3: because the power of judging from on high and pointing

1055
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: the finger one way and not that no one's pointing

1056
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 3: the finger back at you that moment is too fucking.

1057
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: Intoxicating for the pettiness of humanity.

1058
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: And we just can't stop collectively, We can't collectively resist

1059
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 3: the urge, and so we're all Cleveland Brown's going being

1060
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 3: Roethlisberg as a rapist in a lot of these cases,

1061
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 3: unless the rapists is on our team, and in this case,

1062
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: people feel like Kobe Bryants on their team. So you

1063
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: don't get to bring up anything that would distract from

1064
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 3: the narrative of he's just a fucking god and a hero,

1065
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: and no one gets to say anything else to the story.

1066
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: There's no addendums, there's.

1067
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: No fucking uh you know, there's no subplot, there's no

1068
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: other roles in the story. We'll even use the women

1069
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 3: in his life as a deflection for this woman who's

1070
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 3: who you know, well, we'll use women, but only as

1071
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 3: to say, like, his wife and kid matter more than

1072
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 3: galling over.

1073
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, his wife.

1074
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 3: And kid mattered more than that woman who he's sexualists auted. Okay,

1075
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 3: that's a straight uh. His wife and kid, guys, it's

1076
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 3: really about them.

1077
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: We can't do it.

1078
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 3: When Nipsey Hustle died and people was like, yo, he

1079
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 3: was very homophobic and said some real fun up shit

1080
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: about black gay.

1081
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: Men, you can't say that.

1082
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 3: What about his queen is now see, his wife is

1083
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 3: still his his the mother, his child is still out.

1084
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 3: It's like it's so it sounds like basically everybody got

1085
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: shut the fuck up period all the time.

1086
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 2: You know, that's what people really want.

1087
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 4: You know, people won't come out and say that, but

1088
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 4: that's actually, you know, what they really want. And to

1089
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 4: go back to something you said before about how people

1090
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 4: when it comes to like questioning and things like that,

1091
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 4: we live in a society where everybody wants to know

1092
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 4: everything all the time. You know, just just submit that

1093
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 4: everybody wants to know shit all the time. But when

1094
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 4: it comes to certain things, people feel like, well, don't

1095
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 4: ask this and don't ask that. Why, you know, that's

1096
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 4: when I ask why, Because if it's somebody you don't like,

1097
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 4: you want them to dig and pull up all the

1098
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 4: dirt that they can, no matter what it is. But

1099
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 4: if it's somebody you like, all of a sudden, you know,

1100
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 4: these questions are quote unquote off limits. But we live

1101
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,479
Speaker 4: in a society where we want to know everything about

1102
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 4: everybody all the time.

1103
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, well not just that, we want especially the bad thing, correct,

1104
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 3: you know, like they we want to ignore the good

1105
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: things and talk about only the bad shit, you know.

1106
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 3: And then and it's only when we don't like them

1107
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 3: the fucker any other time with the exact goddamn opposite,

1108
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 3: you know. And so I just it just feels so

1109
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: fake and performative, all of it just about you know.

1110
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: And in the end of the day.

1111
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 3: The question keeps coming back to this for me, So

1112
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 3: are we even sure people want this? Has anyone reached

1113
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 3: out to the woman who was sexually you know, assaulted

1114
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 3: in Colorado?

1115
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: Or does it?

1116
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 3: Just at this point it don't matter, right, we don't

1117
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 3: care what the truth is because we need our truth,

1118
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 3: We need our Fox News facts over everything, right, And

1119
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 3: that's what it keeps coming back to me, Like I

1120
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: can't even I can't even applaud these people for trying

1121
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 3: to quote unquote protect his memory because I think what

1122
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 3: you end up is with Justin Fairfax doing Gail King

1123
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 3: and CBS.

1124
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: So you end up with.

1125
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 3: You know, people talking about free Bill Cosy, You're free

1126
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 3: r Kelly. I think you end up over there because

1127
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 3: the same impulse is within you, the one that needs

1128
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 3: a neat, sanitized version of this man's life that meanwhile,

1129
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 3: this this event literally is what led to the second

1130
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 3: act of his life, the one that everyone's applauding him

1131
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: for it.

1132
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 2: You don't get to be a hero without a trial.

1133
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 3: You don't get to be you know, this person that's

1134
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 3: bigger than life without these moments that change one path

1135
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: to another.

1136
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 2: You know. So it was just.

1137
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 3: It's just been interesting. Let's see what else happened. Oh,

1138
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 3: Tyler Perry's Media got eight Razzie Award nominations for Worst

1139
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 3: Movie of twenty nineteen.

1140
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 2: I hope they don't think he gives. Are you happy now, Blacks?

1141
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: Hmm, your wokes, your scheme and your plotter and your

1142
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 3: guy what you want it?

1143
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: Someone's finally calling his movie is terrible? All right? Are

1144
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: you happy now? Now? As for Medea a family funeral.

1145
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 3: So se maybe next next year we can get ye. No,

1146
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: that's his last movie. That's not all I was gonna say. No,

1147
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, maybe next year you get a

1148
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 3: fall from Grace.

1149
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 2: To get some ragi.

1150
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 3: So you know, uh, you got the nod and several

1151
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 3: categories Worst Screenplay, Worst Picture, Worst Actors, Worst screen Combo,

1152
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 3: Worst Prequel, worst Remake, worst ripoff or sequel, and not

1153
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 3: just one, but two Worst Supporting Acting nominations.

1154
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: So there you go.

1155
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 3: White people will be shitting on this movie. And uh,

1156
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 3: that's all.

1157
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 2: The black server wanted. So that should fix it. Glad

1158
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 2: we got there, guys. All right, let's see what else

1159
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 2: we got here.

1160
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 6: Guys.

1161
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 3: Uh, you know what, let's go into another segment.

1162
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: Let's do some fucking with black people. What's my fucking

1163
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: black people music?

1164
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 6: Boom, we're fucking with those black people.

1165
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 2: Were just fucking with those blacks.

1166
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 4: We're just fucking with tucking with black people.

1167
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 3: That's right, God, it's time to play the game we

1168
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 3: all hate to play.

1169
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 2: It's fucking with black people.

1170
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 3: The game that goes all around the globe are signs

1171
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 3: different points for the zill turn hundred intervals of twenty

1172
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: five and makes us feel fucked with as black people

1173
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 3: today's contestants. Everybody, Oh, let's go to Virginia. Virginia is

1174
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: one step closer the ending this tradition of honoring Confederate generals.

1175
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 3: This week, the Virginia House voted to strike down Lee

1176
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 3: Jackson Day from the list of state holidays. The holiday

1177
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 3: observed on the friday before Martin Luther King Junior Day

1178
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 3: in January, honors Roberty Lee and Thomas Stonewall Jackson's at

1179
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 3: Defenders of Causes, which calls own the slaves. I love

1180
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 3: how every every cliche about the South of the Civil War,

1181
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 3: the South and the Civil War is always like of slaves,

1182
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 3: like they always they always like they always stopped right

1183
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 3: short with the lost clause of what of on the slaves? Yeah,

1184
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 3: defenders of the cause of what cause of on the slaves?

1185
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 4: Uh?

1186
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 2: So we're looking for state rights, state rights or what.

1187
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: Both men on slaves and fought the preserved of slavery

1188
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 3: in the US. In its placed, the House bill proposed

1189
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 3: that the state replace.

1190
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: It with.

1191
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 3: Election Day the first Monday in November instead, which means

1192
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 3: everybody will get election day off if it becomes the

1193
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 3: state holiday it should be to make it easier for

1194
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 3: Virginians to vote. Now, Karen, who do you think is

1195
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 3: the person who is behind this measure?

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00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 2: Oh?

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00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 4: Moonwalking, dude, that's.

1198
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 3: Right, Karen, Ralph is the one who is behind.

1199
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 4: Come on, cook out my nigga.

1200
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: Okay, he wore a black face, he said, I learned

1201
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,959
Speaker 2: my lesson. But that's just because he cares about black

1202
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 2: lives matter. Now, okay, I tell you over there, you

1203
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 2: are a potato salic.

1204
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 4: It's gonna be yelling that white Now, hey, we ain't

1205
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 4: got no bait chicken. You don't do fride here.

1206
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 2: Give that man his glittery glove and let him go

1207
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: to work on the.

1208
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 4: Dance floor, my ware, his red pants hat.

1209
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 3: Listen, he moonwalks so black people can run, all right, shout.

1210
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 2: Out to you. You get the whole goddamn dance flow, sir,

1211
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: he included to measure his twenty twenty legislative proposals.

1212
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 3: The best thing is he can't even get a repeat,

1213
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 3: repeat turn. So he literally just doing this out of

1214
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 3: the goodness of his heart at this point because there's

1215
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 3: nothing else for him to do. Okay, now where else

1216
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 3: he can go? Oh man, yeah, so shout out to him.

1217
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 4: Man, shout out to him. And that's why when white

1218
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 4: people fuck up, y'all and you call him out and

1219
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 4: they'd be like, I'm changed, and they you got to

1220
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 4: give them the opportunity to change. And he was like,

1221
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 4: I hear you, and I'm gonna do some shit about it,

1222
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 4: because a lot of times when they scared, particularly if

1223
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 4: they have to actually answer to us, there's gonna be

1224
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 4: some shifting and some shaking of the tables.

1225
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: M h that man, y'all be like, get.

1226
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 4: Him out of here.

1227
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 2: That man moon walked us right in the progress.

1228
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 4: Yes, he did a fucking national holiday.

1229
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: Look at him, Okay, don't.

1230
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 3: I was telling people that's why when they did that poll,

1231
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: see what everybody forgets is all that pressure came from

1232
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 3: the GOP to make them get rid of Ralph Northumb

1233
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 3: and people was the first was like, oh, Lieutenant Justin Fairfast,

1234
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 3: Lieutenant governor, let's go ahead and elevate him.

1235
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: And then it was like, you know, he's accused of

1236
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: raping a couple of black women.

1237
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 4: Was like, oh, oh, you know, I know this might

1238
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 4: sound fucked up, but I think I might can do

1239
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 4: a little bit.

1240
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: And then the third in command came out was like,

1241
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 3: you know, I also did some black face back in

1242
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 3: the day.

1243
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: It was like with goddamn, who would be in charge?

1244
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 3: And they were like, and the other person, they'll be

1245
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 3: in charge of the Republican and I'm like, well, we

1246
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 3: can't have that. So what everyone forgets, though, is that

1247
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,959
Speaker 3: they did a poll at the time, and the poll

1248
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 3: of black voters in Virginia was like raup.

1249
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: Northern can stay right.

1250
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 3: And to me, I'm like, well, that's the only people's

1251
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 3: opinion that matters. The black people that have to live there.

1252
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 3: They're like, we don't care if he did blackface. I'm

1253
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 3: not living under Republican governor. After I went out and

1254
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 3: voted for a Democrat, right not feel to happen.

1255
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 4: Not finna happen.

1256
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, cool, this is good news. And

1257
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,919
Speaker 2: ever since then, this man has been over there, legislation.

1258
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 4: Has been over there. I'm fighting for the blacks here.

1259
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 4: Over there, I'm fighting for the browns. Tell me what

1260
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 4: else y'all want to do. Shit, I can't be voted

1261
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 4: in again. Everything on the table.

1262
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: He's over there getting free chicken day on Sundays. Come on, Like,

1263
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what else, this man is gonna pass.

1264
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:00,479
Speaker 2: That's okay.

1265
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 3: He gonna make Hennessy the official drink of Virginia.

1266
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 4: Electric slide gonna be the official dance of the state.

1267
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 3: Let's do it right, Like I don't know what all

1268
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 3: like that man completely tear everything around based all that.

1269
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 4: What else y'all want, I'll pass.

1270
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: It based off of that. That scandal man, he came

1271
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: out of the.

1272
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 4: Continue my routine.

1273
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 2: I'm just begoding and rooting for all the black people,

1274
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: like just straight up. Oh so, yeah, appreciate you, homie.

1275
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 4: And you know what, at the cookout, his wife ain't

1276
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 4: gonna stop. We're gonna let him go ahead and finish.

1277
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 4: You know, when he first tried to do it, his

1278
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 4: wife beat older. But you know, you come to the cookout,

1279
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 4: We'll go ahead and let you let you finish your move, sir.

1280
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 2: It Yes, I'll sit up there right with him. I'll

1281
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: go viral with him on.

1282
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 4: Some chicken wing, drink some sweet tea.

1283
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: Uh. But yeah, And also I hate that day. I

1284
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 2: hate that day.

1285
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 3: Like, first of all, every fucking street in Virginia is

1286
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 3: named like at the Roberty Lee or fucking Stonewall Jackson,

1287
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 3: and I fucking hate that they have a day, and

1288
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 3: especially because that day is so close to Martin Luther

1289
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 3: King Day. It's just another way of the South being

1290
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 3: like fuck Martin Luther King, Fuck these niggas and civil

1291
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 3: rights fuck so fuck their justice. What about my justice

1292
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 3: as a white man. We will always be here to

1293
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 3: remind you of that. There's nothing to be celebrated about

1294
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 3: these men.

1295
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: Nothing. And so h yeah, I'm glad. I'm absolutely glad.

1296
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 4: Okay, let as many people vote as fucking possible. Because

1297
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 4: the people get the day off, they'll be able to

1298
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 4: fucking vote.

1299
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: Mm hm.

1300
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 3: I remember that they try to get Ralph up out

1301
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 3: of there. Yes, sorry, bring up. His wife gave cotton

1302
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,479
Speaker 3: to them kids on the field trip. She ain't caught

1303
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 3: into all the kids, Okay, not just the black kids.

1304
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 4: Everybody got some guys.

1305
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,479
Speaker 2: See you just did that Twitter shit, that's the same

1306
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 2: thing they would be doing. She died on Twitter. That's

1307
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: a She gave cotton to some black children, like all

1308
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 2: the kids on the trip, she gave them. Cry m

1309
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 2: m m. She should have said, then you know what happened.

1310
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 3: She would have said, listen, no black kids get caught,

1311
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 3: only the white kids. Then we've really been on Twitter

1312
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 3: talking about this bitch had a nerve to not get

1313
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 3: them little black baby.

1314
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 2: Some cotton fuck this hole, y'all dog headed bitch like

1315
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: we would have been doing the exact opposite.

1316
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 3: Man, if you start from a place of hating white people,

1317
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 3: you'll never you'll never be able to to come.

1318
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 2: Off their necks. I get it. But I'm just trying

1319
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: to rid myself of being so easy to be used

1320
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 2: by my anger. Man, And it's easy to do.

1321
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to calm down.

1322
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: Because that's all Twitter. Twitter is so good. It's so good. Yeah,

1323
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: it's so good if you let it.

1324
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 3: So good at just like knowing how to push your

1325
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 3: buttons of anger and then have you out of control

1326
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 3: the old term and I and I think I failed

1327
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 3: for that in a lot of ways.

1328
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: And so now now my instinct is more to push

1329
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: back and be like, nah, hold up, let me look

1330
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: at the situation.

1331
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 4: Let me investigating, let me google, let me see what

1332
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 4: you'all talking about, Because y'all all make some ship up

1333
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 4: it's not true sometimes yeah, so.

1334
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I defend that woman.

1335
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 3: She's my Taylor Swift now, okay, she's my new Taylor Swift.

1336
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:23,959
Speaker 3: Ralph Northum's wife.

1337
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 6: Uh.

1338
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 3: You know, the other reason we know she cool is

1339
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 3: because she did stop him from Milwaukee. That really would

1340
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 3: have been political suicide. We would have never got it,

1341
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 3: would have we would have got none of this legislation

1342
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 3: if she had, if she had to hit him with

1343
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 3: that baby.

1344
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 4: Stiff on what you know, My wife said, no, no.

1345
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 2: Hold up, now what you're doing baby, you already apologized.

1346
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 2: That's enough, sir. You confessed to the blackface. That's it,

1347
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 2: that's it. That's what we came to do. We didn't come.

1348
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 4: We didn't come. But you can dance all you want

1349
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 4: at the house, all right.

1350
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 2: You thought he was gonna Chris Brown dance his way

1351
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: out of forgiveness. That's not gonna have it.

1352
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 3: HBCU president has been caught up in an off campus

1353
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 3: prostitution ring.

1354
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: Oh and he resigns.

1355
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 3: President of historically Black College in Mississippi has resigned after

1356
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 3: he and more than a dozen other people were arrested

1357
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 3: for their roles and a prostitution and drug.

1358
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 4: Steing with goddamn where to get the money from? Was

1359
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 4: the scholarships? The fuck is this?

1360
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 2: Oh? No idea? No idea?

1361
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, William Bondham Junior, who led Jackson State University since

1362
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen as its president, resigned from the position after

1363
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 3: he was arrested in charge of procuring the services of

1364
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 3: a prostitute, false statement of identity, and possession of marijuana.

1365
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 2: Well shit, man, he was probably.

1366
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 3: The only one smiling in that picture they had to

1367
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 3: take with Trump when they had to go to the

1368
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 3: house and get that money.

1369
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 2: He was the only one like, so, are he like hoes? Yeah?

1370
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeahuse grandmother pussy hun years.

1371
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 4: I got them in different area codes.

1372
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: The arrest of Bottom in the sixth seen.

1373
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 3: Other people included another employee of the HBCU or results

1374
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 3: of the two day operation and thereby town of Clinton.

1375
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 3: The Clarion Ledger identify all the people who are arrested, damn,

1376
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 3: and then they went through all their names.

1377
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 2: They loved that.

1378
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 3: The portion of Jackson State's website reserve for the president

1379
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 3: led to users to a not found.

1380
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: Page as of Monday afternoon.

1381
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, of course it's not gonna be found.

1382
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: Not not that we updated for full violation.

1383
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 4: Yeah four four screen era mm hmm hmmm.

1384
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: It was unclear whinning where the arrest took place.

1385
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 3: Local news outlets WAPT reported that Bottom is a married

1386
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 3: father of six.

1387
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: Oh man, but what about his family? We can't talk

1388
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 2: about this. I got to skip it.

1389
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 3: It's distasteful. The other Jackson State employee, Shonda mccartt. Shonda,

1390
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 3: who a woman, was a general ride as a director

1391
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 3: of JSU Art Galleries.

1392
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 2: Her employment status at the university is unclearing. Oh unclear.

1393
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 4: She ain't got a job.

1394
01:06:59,040 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 2: So what does she get?

1395
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 4: Uh, you got caught up with this thing. Guess she

1396
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 4: was prostituting, prostituting or was.

1397
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: She trying to secure prostitute? That's what.

1398
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 4: It was.

1399
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 3: Because if it's not, if she was being a prostitute

1400
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 3: and he was being a john, then they really fucked up.

1401
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 2: They skipped the middle man on this one. They I mean,

1402
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 2: they could have cut the midle man out and all

1403
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 2: of them would have been, you know, still not in jail.

1404
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that might have been her thing too.

1405
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 3: And Bottom's arrests came up less than a week after

1406
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 3: the president of Texas Southern University was fired over the

1407
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 3: alleged college and mission scandal. Doctor Austin Lane was terminated

1408
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 3: from his position early Wednesday, more than for allegedly allowing

1409
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 3: an unqualified student to be admitted to Texas susin law school,

1410
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 3: which the board of regents said violated his duty to

1411
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 3: alert the university did any information they could damage his reputation.

1412
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 3: So was he trying to do his own version of

1413
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 3: that that's celebrity white people scandal.

1414
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 2: It don't work the name mission scandal. Yeah. No, one

1415
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,479
Speaker 2: of that kids stole all that money from Howard. Okay.

1416
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,919
Speaker 3: He was like, listen, Okay, they ain't gonna do nothing

1417
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 3: good with the money, but get some hos.

1418
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: Fend it on me. Mm hmmm.

1419
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 4: Uh.

1420
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 3: The prostitution scandal in Mississippi came about a year and

1421
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 3: a half after the Fort Valley State University, another HBCU,

1422
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 3: was at the center of the prostitution ring of his

1423
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 3: own on campus in Ryald, Georgia.

1424
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,520
Speaker 2: Among those whose warrants.

1425
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 3: Were issued for included former executive assistant to the president

1426
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 3: of Fort Valley State UH, from where official said sex

1427
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 3: for men was arranged in exchange for cash. So, man,

1428
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 3: people was out here keetting that money doing that sex work,

1429
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 3: I guess. But yeah, buddy, you get caught and they

1430
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 3: definitely gonna put you in the paper if you the

1431
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 3: head of that.

1432
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 2: Oh wait, the first artiguar I gave was zero by

1433
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 2: the way, Uh, so you know, Ralph Northum's good with me.

1434
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: I'm not almost zero. But the second this one zero

1435
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: one hundred.

1436
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 4: Oh, this this one get one hundred because honey, I

1437
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 4: I as as a student that went to a HBCU

1438
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 4: and fucking refund checks and all that shit.

1439
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 6: Fuck you.

1440
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 2: Yeah for me twenty five.

1441
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 3: I'm not that fucked with by this, mostly because I mean,

1442
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 3: people be wanting to have sex. Man, the longest prostitution illegal.

1443
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 3: They're gonna keep catching motherfuckers up upstanding and low standing

1444
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 3: getting caught trying to fuck somebody, because that's what the

1445
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 3: fuck people do. I mean, So I guess, uh, they

1446
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 3: ain't got no president for now. I remember when I

1447
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 3: used to work in the missions department and I went

1448
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 3: to the porn store one time and seen like the

1449
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 3: vice president of emissions in there, and he was a

1450
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 3: white dude, and we just had to act like we

1451
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 3: didn't see each other. And I was like, why is

1452
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 3: this nigga over in the black Chierleiader section. I'm just

1453
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 3: trying to understand, you know what I mean. But okay,

1454
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 3: whatever it's your preference. I'm not shaming your kink, but

1455
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 3: it might explain your your occupation choices.

1456
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, do something about that question. Was he

1457
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 4: was his own private money or the school's money? I

1458
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 4: guess that's more of what I.

1459
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 6: Want to know.

1460
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything with that level of detail about

1461
01:09:59,200 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 2: the money.

1462
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 4: Okay, because that makes a difference if he's using the

1463
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 4: school money one hundred, if he using his own private money.

1464
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean using your private money twenty five

1465
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 4: for your wife, you know, maybe a hundred, you know,

1466
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 4: one hundred for her. But you know, to me, that

1467
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 4: makes a difference than how I feel because if you're

1468
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 4: using money money from the school, is some motherfucking problem.

1469
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 2: Yes. Uh.

1470
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 3: Photo shows being Carson standing So a maga man can

1471
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:29,879
Speaker 3: sit on Rosa Park's birthday.

1472
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 4: What ain't he the same man to say he was

1473
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 4: at the Papa establishment.

1474
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 3: Ben Carsicktin's a parade around with his maga family, and

1475
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 3: the Internet is once again partly disturbed and partly amused.

1476
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 3: The Trump approved Secretary of Housing the Urban Development was

1477
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 3: it Ayua. Recently the campaign for Trump in a key

1478
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 3: state for the twenty twenty presidential election.

1479
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 2: I keep forgetting better than man, but oh, he said

1480
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 2: that who who sins being Carson out to campaign and

1481
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 2: why was he in Iowa?

1482
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 4: What?

1483
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 2: What is even happening? Iowa has so many pleasant memories.

1484
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 2: Iowa has so many pleasant memories. The people, they're very

1485
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 2: special here in Iowa. People saying to be so much

1486
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 2: more in tune with what's going on in the country,

1487
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 2: helping Trump get re elected.

1488
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 3: Carson said, I think it's very important that the GOLP

1489
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 3: recognized that this is more than just a simple re election.

1490
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 3: We're talking about do we want to continue the lifestyle

1491
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 3: that has characterized American greatness over the centuries, or do

1492
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 3: we want to switch to another system. Carson and other

1493
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:57,520
Speaker 3: Trump supporters were certainly present during the caucus considering.

1494
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 2: A picture with Carson has since.

1495
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 3: Gone viol It shows him on a plane full of

1496
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 3: mostly white Trump supporters wearing a hat that reads keep

1497
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 3: Iowa Great.

1498
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 2: We used to teach kids about this nigga and oh god,

1499
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 2: oh do we still teach him in black history class?

1500
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 2: I hope not?

1501
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 4: And he was one of the preapproved ones.

1502
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 2: Can we take him off the list? We ask on

1503
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 2: you know, you know, black teachers across the country with no, no, no, no,

1504
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,839
Speaker 2: no no. If the picture wasn't disturbing enough. Carson appears

1505
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: to be without a seat on the plane. Is that

1506
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 2: even legal?

1507
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 3: And he literally has to lean against someone else sitting

1508
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 3: down to be included in the photo. Well, maybe he's

1509
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 3: sitting in first class and he just came back there.

1510
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1511
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 3: It's almost as if he's fighting for a seat at

1512
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 3: the table with no white person's wanting to give up.

1513
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 3: The photo started making his way around Twitter the same

1514
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 3: day Rosa Park's birthday, and folks couldn't help but recognize

1515
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 3: the irony. I mean, at least he wasn't sitting in

1516
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 3: the back, he was standing in the middle. The civil

1517
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 3: rights icon, who died in two thousand and five, would

1518
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 3: have been one hundred and seven years old on Tuesday.

1519
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 3: She is recognized as sparking the Montgomery bus boycott refusing

1520
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 3: to give up her seat to a white man on

1521
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 3: a bus in nineteen fifty five.

1522
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:07,799
Speaker 2: So, oh man, good luck Ben Carson.

1523
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 3: I guess when y'all told Trump supporters to have all

1524
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 3: the seats they took it literally, and ah.

1525
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 4: Oh they're not giving them up.

1526
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 3: Now, being Carson got staed. We may have thought about

1527
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 3: this backwards zero tie hundred can Yeah, I give it

1528
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 3: a you know what, not a hundred. This fucking Ben Carson.

1529
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 3: He's always getting a hundred from me. Nigga is terrible.

1530
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 3: Can't believe we used to teach you to the kids.

1531
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 2: Mm hm hmm, all.

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01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 3: Right, last one, check Hanks on cultural appropriation? Wo right,

1533
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 3: Tom Hanks son and rapper? Why are we so caught

1534
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 3: up on this idea of theft and stealing?

1535
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 4: What you talking about?

1536
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 2: Rapping? No, he talked about cultural appropriation?

1537
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 4: What coming from you?

1538
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: Wh why we?

1539
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 4: Who is this collective? We?

1540
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 2: Why we so caught up all stealing.

1541
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 4: His head?

1542
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 2: Spider Man?

1543
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,480
Speaker 5: Spider Man, spider.

1544
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 4: Can any size cat just like lookouts?

1545
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 2: Nigga? Why are y'all so caught up stepped and stealing?

1546
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 4: Y'all?

1547
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 2: The one was stealing the ideas and the theft? What

1548
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 2: do we it's why you just while you broke in

1549
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 2: my house and took my TV? Tom on? So why

1550
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 2: are we so caught up on people who are taking

1551
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 2: who tv? Because then you got my TV hands? What

1552
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 2: are you talking about?

1553
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 3: Dude?

1554
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1555
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 3: The clips shared late Tuesday night title Chat Chat Volume.

1556
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 2: Two, Oh shit too?

1557
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 4: What happened to one?

1558
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: First of all, it says Volume v. I isn't that

1559
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 2: Volume four?

1560
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 3: Oh no, wait, okay, I'm sorry it is Chet Chat

1561
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 3: Volume four, Part two, Cultural Appropriation. Chat touched on a

1562
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 3: variety of arguments related to the larger issue of appropriation,

1563
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 3: including one that he says is confusing to him, the assertion.

1564
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: That white people have no culture to call their own.

1565
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 3: That to me is confusing because just look at all

1566
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 3: the different varieties of European culture. Second of all, let's

1567
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 3: assume that's true. Let's assume white people have no culture.

1568
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 3: But if they did have a culture, what would that

1569
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 3: be like? Check then put forth a couple of examples

1570
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 3: of what he argues is examples of white culture, before

1571
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 3: moving on to a different angle of the same argument.

1572
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 3: I imagine it to be something like, one example, snowboard

1573
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 3: and like the cultures around the snowboard and the motocross,

1574
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 3: where it's just like mostly white people. Not saying that

1575
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 3: it has to be that way or it should be

1576
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 3: that way, but just that for the most part, that's

1577
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 3: what it is. Back in off of the sports related examples,

1578
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 3: Chat decided to broach what he characterizes hip hop versus

1579
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,560
Speaker 3: country issue. If you don't have a problem with a

1580
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 3: black person wearing cowboy hats at cowboy boots and loving

1581
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 3: country music. Then why do you have a problem with

1582
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 3: white people wearing braids and gold teeth and getting into

1583
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 3: hip hop music.

1584
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 4: That's why his daddy had to be mister Rogers. His

1585
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 4: daddy was like, you know what I got, I got

1586
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 4: to go tas kids, let me go be mister Rogers.

1587
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 3: It's this whole idea of theft chat. They wondered, why

1588
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 3: such theft to discuss at all? Why are we still

1589
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 3: cut up on this idea of theft and stealing? He said, uh, yeah, okay,

1590
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 3: yeah a hundred.

1591
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 2: I can't.

1592
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 3: I mean say, I'm not even one of these motherfuckers

1593
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 3: that get mad at all the cultural appropriation ship and

1594
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 3: even this is just beyond the pal This.

1595
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 4: Is correct, This is literally stupid. You could have said

1596
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 4: nothing like.

1597
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 3: Just sit down, don't sit there and eat your playing

1598
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 3: tames okay and talking your patois and leave us funk

1599
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 3: out of it.

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01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 2: Dog okay. Everybody being said, you know, this is just

1601
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 2: this is just time hangs.

1602
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 3: Badass son and move the fuck on, and you gotta

1603
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 3: bring us all the way back to this. We were

1604
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 3: having a good time. Hey, what is deff anyway, as

1605
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 3: I'm wearing your nikes, get the.

1606
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 2: Fuck out of here. Oh man, all right, what else

1607
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 2: I want to get into? I has to do some

1608
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: guests the race.

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01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.

1610
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 3: Let's see what my time looked like. Okay, yeah, Y

1611
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 3: do some guest stories, guys. It's about that time if

1612
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 3: I can find the guest storrace music. Uh, okay, here

1613
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 3: we go.

1614
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 2: Now that it's time for some guests the race. That's right.

1615
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 2: This guests the race time.

1616
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 4: Now, that is time for some guests story race. That's right,

1617
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 4: it's guest story race time.

1618
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 3: That's right, it's time for guests the race. The number

1619
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 3: one game show going across all the podcasts. Man, we

1620
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 3: read the play news artists from all over the globe,

1621
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 3: and we asked our contestants today Karen at the chat

1622
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 3: room to guess the right.

1623
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 2: So and of course everyone playing is a racist. All right,

1624
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 2: let's get into our first round.

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01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 6: Uh.

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01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 3: A fella was suspected Gang Tiles was arrested in Spaulding

1627
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 3: County on Monday after you hit in the attic and

1628
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 3: eventually fell from a ceiling.

1629
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 4: Did one of my numbers? Yeah, I wonder, I mean,

1630
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 4: I wouldn't steal nothing but I feel from the ceiling.

1631
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 2: I wonder why he was up there doing crime. Maybe

1632
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 2: it was a drug addict.

1633
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 3: Mirror Watson, forty one, is one of the highest ranking

1634
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,719
Speaker 3: Blood Game members working out of Spalding in Griffin Counties.

1635
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 3: According to Spalding County Sheriff Darryl Dix, the Bloods are

1636
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 3: criminal street game found it okay, all right?

1637
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:15,759
Speaker 2: Who's this article before?

1638
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 3: Dick's called Watson a dangerous leader of a violent organization

1639
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 3: in a minister society. His arrest Caust two weeks after

1640
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,719
Speaker 3: he ran from a traffic stop. He had been boasting

1641
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 3: since he ran from ages two weeks ago that his

1642
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 3: new street name would be Merring Copperfield Watson because he

1643
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,679
Speaker 3: was always escaped, just like the magician does.

1644
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 2: We didn't give him a chance to pull a rabbit

1645
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 2: out of his hat on this one. Today. We pulled

1646
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 2: a y'all got jokes police.

1647
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 3: We puted a convicted, documented thug out of an attic

1648
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 3: for what is hopefully his final trick. Abricadabro pocus pokus.

1649
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 3: We didn't need to sew him a half. Why is

1650
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 3: the criminal history as extensive?

1651
01:19:59,080 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 2: Dick said.

1652
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,759
Speaker 3: Not only was he on an active probation for possessing

1653
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 3: a gun as a felon. He was out of jail

1654
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 3: on bond after a drug smuggling incident in Georgia State Prison.

1655
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 2: So maybe it was a drug addict. I don't know.

1656
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 3: On Monday, when Debudy's and US Marshalls tracked him to

1657
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 3: a home on Joselo Road, they also found evidence of

1658
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 3: dog fighting. Oh okay, well, let's make it simple for everybody.

1659
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,799
Speaker 3: Movement in the attic rip tip the officers that Watson

1660
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 3: might be hiding up there. They began communicating with the man,

1661
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 3: but he still refused to come down at that point.

1662
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 3: What if he was just up there trying to escape,

1663
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 3: trying to do another magic trick. He's like, uh, coming

1664
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 3: down to take avocadava.

1665
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 2: Fuck and whila and focus.

1666
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 3: Shit all right, look, look hold up, y'all. Look at

1667
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 3: this mirror and then Africaaba damn moving in the attic

1668
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 3: trip tip. The officers off Da da da at this point,

1669
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 3: knowing his exact location in the attic aight is again

1670
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 3: dismantling the ceiling near him and continue to order him

1671
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 3: out to surrender. You continue to ignore them, even after

1672
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 3: they had torn out enough of the ceiling to see

1673
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 3: each other. Dah Washington that was this stunned with the

1674
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 3: taser and fell to the floor. He was taken in

1675
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 3: the custody uninjured other than you know, the fall to

1676
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 3: the floor in the tasing. A subsequent search of the

1677
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 3: home resulted in the seizure of six guns four dogs

1678
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 3: that evidence investigators believe tied him to dog fighting.

1679
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 4: And imagine this is somebody else's house, So you and

1680
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 4: somebody else's house telling their house is the fucking pieces

1681
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 4: and odds they're gonna have to pay for the property

1682
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 4: or the police fucking daring holding their home m H logo.

1683
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 3: Authorities hoped to turn WASH's case over the federal Agents

1684
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 3: and prosecution.

1685
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,480
Speaker 2: Dick said that in Watson's former.

1686
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 3: Run in with the law, other police, other people arrested

1687
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 3: with Washington will ultimately take have ultimately taken responsibility. We've

1688
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 3: ensured that with this case, no one will be able

1689
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 3: to take them blame, take the blame for his crimes.

1690
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 3: So I guess him being a high level, you know, gangster,

1691
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 3: he was able to be like, uh, no, I'm good,

1692
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like so and so did

1693
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 3: that crime, you know, and so.

1694
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 2: With him being able to do that.

1695
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 3: I mean, how do you arrest him if someone's always

1696
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 3: being like, it's my drugs not true?

1697
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 2: So m mmmm. He's being held without bond.

1698
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 3: He's facing eighteen counts of criminal gang activity, six counts

1699
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 3: of possession of fire and by fellings single counts each,

1700
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 3: a possession of drug related objects, fleeing and attempted to allude,

1701
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 3: a violation of probation.

1702
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,839
Speaker 2: And apartrage, and a petry.

1703
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:45,679
Speaker 3: Gerardo Williams, thirty, who authority said is another another documented

1704
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 3: Blood gang member, was also arrested money down charge of

1705
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:49,679
Speaker 3: hindering the apprehension of a fugitive.

1706
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 2: He's facing two.

1707
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 3: Counts of criminal gang activity and single counts each of

1708
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 3: restriction and violation of probation.

1709
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 2: Karen, I guess the race of what was his first name?

1710
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 3: Copperfield watching Marion Copperfield watching?

1711
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 2: What's Negro? All right? Karen's going with black.

1712
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 3: Let's check the chat room, see what they believe. Thug

1713
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 3: a term only useful black folks. Okay, black blood check fighting,

1714
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 3: check fighting dogs, check black. He's a neighbor at the dunes.

1715
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 3: He he's his neighbor at the dunes. He recently caught

1716
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 3: his daughter. He taught his daughters her abbs all black.

1717
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 3: Uh pen and tell a nigga this negro shit minister society,

1718
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 3: Black prestige is black, copperfield, magical, Negro, expeditiously black. It

1719
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 3: seems like everybody is saying the same thing on this one.

1720
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 3: And you guys all got it right.

1721
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 2: He's black. No one missed that one.

1722
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 3: I don't know how y'all knew that that's what it was.

1723
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 3: I have my suspicions how y'all knew uh what the

1724
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 3: clue was?

1725
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 2: Oh picture all, Sorry, guys.

1726
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 4: I mean that's a sense of its long to steal

1727
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 4: and burn down a CD ass and that old person's home.

1728
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, come on.

1729
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 3: And so calling them thugs, just call them niggas.

1730
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 2: Just call them niggas. The thug word that was. That

1731
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 2: was a good the giveaway as they.

1732
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 4: Say, she got an out upside is here probably from

1733
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 4: hitting that floor.

1734
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 2: No injuries. And did he have that not when he

1735
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 2: when y'all found them.

1736
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 4: I don't feel through a celing the hont that's a

1737
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 4: long hard fall.

1738
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 2: I guess that David Blaine shit didn't work like the.

1739
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 4: People do their dolls with the blankets, you know how

1740
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 4: they the videos where people kind of just throw the

1741
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 4: blanket in like run, but he just having to run

1742
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 4: to the wall or the door that he didn't.

1743
01:24:54,920 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 3: Chuck uh Wichital Falls, Wichita Falls woman was charged for

1744
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 3: tasing her husband at the Police said she went looking

1745
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 3: for him and found him at a night spot with

1746
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 3: his girlfriend.

1747
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 2: Oh shit what.

1748
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 3: Orlanda Para, twenty four was charged with AsSalt family violence.

1749
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 4: Just at the toy assault family violence? Mean what did

1750
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 4: the cousin?

1751
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 2: What the fuck is this?

1752
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 6: Well?

1753
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 2: I think family is a husband?

1754
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I was like.

1755
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 3: What Just at the two am Sunday police were called

1756
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 3: by the victim at Hefe's restaurant on Southwest Parkway. When

1757
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 3: police say opera, which police say operates as a nightclub

1758
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:38,879
Speaker 3: on the weekend, he said.

1759
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 4: She had haafes was just line of his business. Y'all

1760
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 4: bought that bullshit in there.

1761
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 2: Parr was with his child's mother and she was in

1762
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 2: the parking lot armed with a taser.

1763
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 3: Officer said when they arrived, several people were arguing and

1764
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 3: a gold car was trying to leave, and officer stopped

1765
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 3: the car driven by Parra and said she told them

1766
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 3: she came to pick up her husband. And that his

1767
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 3: girlfriend and her friends tried to jump her. She's what

1768
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 3: she said that when she pulled out the taser and

1769
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 3: pointed at the girlfriend and her friends.

1770
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 2: Oh, that's what. She pulled out the taser. Okay, I

1771
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 2: was just say.

1772
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 3: Parr for first said her husband had called her to

1773
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 3: come get him, but let it change it to a

1774
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:16,759
Speaker 3: friend had told.

1775
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 2: Her her husband was at the club with another woman,

1776
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: and that she went there to confront them.

1777
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 3: See this wise, y'all be thinking, y'all, good friend, y'all

1778
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 3: gonna end up being excessive to murder. If I see

1779
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 3: somebody with somebody, I'm a I'm ana call and let

1780
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 3: them know. I'm like, I'm mom my business and hope

1781
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 3: they work that out. They might be an over relationship.

1782
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 4: I don't fucking know, uh, police said.

1783
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 2: The man told them he was trying to leave with

1784
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 2: his girlfriend.

1785
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 3: When Para arrived and blocked his vehicle in oh shout

1786
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 3: out to no shame in his game. Man, I'm just

1787
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 3: trying to leave my girlfriend and here come my wife

1788
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 3: talking about something. Oh, come home, take care of your children,

1789
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 3: he responds.

1790
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's Saturday night, Damn, you know what it is?

1791
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 2: He said. She got out the car and began trying

1792
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 2: to taste him and his girlfriend.

1793
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

1794
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 3: He showed the officers the redness well he had got

1795
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 3: tasted on his hand. Witnesses told officers that they saw

1796
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 3: Parror tip to the taste several people in the lot.

1797
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 2: I thought that taste. I thought tasers only had like, Oh,

1798
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 2: she must have had one of them tasers that do the.

1799
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 3: The one that shoots the like electric little spark, not

1800
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 3: the She must not have had the one that shoots

1801
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:25,600
Speaker 3: the barbs into you.

1802
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 4: Oh, the ones she didn't get, the ones that kind

1803
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 4: of hook.

1804
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, but that shit still hurts, of course. Uh,

1805
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 2: the man said.

1806
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 3: Another person was able to disarm Pera and the taser

1807
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 3: was found near her car. Court record showed that last October,

1808
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 3: Para was greater than a protective order against the man

1809
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 3: who was harassing and threatening her because she fouled for

1810
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 3: child support. She said, man, she said he, She said,

1811
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 3: he went to bars every weekend and got drunk, then

1812
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 3: came to her house in all hours to threaten her.

1813
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what's I don't know what's happening in

1814
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 2: the store. This story is a little everywhere. Man like

1815
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 2: I guess just two people that got a child together,

1816
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 2: that that poor child? Anyway? Can I guess the race?

1817
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 2: Oh black of Orlando Parra. All right, let's check the

1818
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 2: chat room and see what they believe.

1819
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 3: Poor the taste because she feared her life. White the

1820
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,799
Speaker 3: crowds sounds like nigga shit, but the name sounds Hispanic.

1821
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 3: I'm going Latina, Hey, Barbara, this is Richie, Hey, I'll

1822
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:31,640
Speaker 3: never come home again. White, Latina, Afro, Latina spicy. Uh

1823
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 3: to the wall, Mexican. The only nigga in Wichita falls

1824
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:40,919
Speaker 3: some nigga shit, Orlando tats parlor.

1825
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 2: Black. The correct answer is whoever say, lieutenant, she gotta

1826
01:28:45,479 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 2: correct and the rest of you got around. Damn. She

1827
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 2: walked up in there like five heartbeats every night.

1828
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 3: I got to come in here and prove my love,

1829
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 3: give me my taser, and you must got that good detO.

1830
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 3: Somebody I know his wife got a taser on her

1831
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 3: way and they all stayed there.

1832
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:23,839
Speaker 4: I'm right with no problems.

1833
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 2: Uh the picture show up? Yeah, okay, yeah, that's her.

1834
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm. All right, let's go to the bonus round, right.

1835
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:50,600
Speaker 5: Saying the race that was a poll saying the.

1836
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:54,640
Speaker 3: Race that's right, double the points, double the race and

1837
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 3: the bonus round.

1838
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:59,560
Speaker 2: I guess the race so far Karen is one in

1839
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 2: one yep, But how would she do when all the

1840
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 2: marbles count in the bonus round? I try my biz

1841
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 2: all right? Getting nervous over there? Isn't it?

1842
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 3: A former DCS workers facing a slough of charges for

1843
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 3: not making home visits and filing false reports?

1844
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 2: What a former Department of.

1845
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 3: Child Services workers accused of skipping home visits filing false

1846
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 3: reports saying that she did. Melissa Castill, thirty nine, is

1847
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 3: charged with a slew of obstruction of justice, official misconduct

1848
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,759
Speaker 3: of a public servant, and falsifying child abuse or neglect

1849
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 3: records while I own the job.

1850
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 2: An officer with the Indiana Office.

1851
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:40,919
Speaker 3: Of the Inspector General launched an investigation in the Castile,

1852
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 3: who was with the Allen County DCS office from February

1853
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen to September twenty eighteen. DCS fired the family

1854
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,680
Speaker 3: case manager for false fire and electronic records pertaining the

1855
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 3: Child Welfare Matters Management Gateway for Indiana Kids. DCS policy

1856
01:30:57,479 --> 01:30:59,640
Speaker 3: states that case managers need to have monthly face to

1857
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 3: face BOK meanings with every child under DCS care, a

1858
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 3: photo of the child needs to be taken during the visit.

1859
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 3: Once the visit is complete, the case manager should document

1860
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 3: what happened during the face to face meaning to upload

1861
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 3: the PHUDDO the Magic the management gateway for any of

1862
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 3: the kids. An investigator oversee the case said that family

1863
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 3: case managers will sometimes make a placeholder entry into the

1864
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 3: system that says more information will.

1865
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 2: Be uploaded soon.

1866
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 3: This placeholder entry prevents Magic system from automatically sending out

1867
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 3: a notice to DCS supervisors that a child has not been.

1868
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:32,719
Speaker 2: Visited in a thirty day required period.

1869
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 3: According to the court documents, DCS supervisors have found that

1870
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 3: entry is made by family case managers that are briefed

1871
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 3: and give no detail, often signs of false reports. M

1872
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 3: That's exactly what happened to Summer Castell's records. Prosecutors alleged

1873
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 3: to inspector overseeing this case said he found several face

1874
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 3: to face visits in the Magic system that didn't happen.

1875
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:54,560
Speaker 3: He also found that has still submitted three reports to

1876
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 3: the Allen County Juvenile Court that contained some of these

1877
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 3: falsely reported face to face visits. When investigators spoke to Castile,

1878
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 3: she told them she saw her children every month. She

1879
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 3: explained that the dates that didn't match and the online

1880
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 3: report system were intentional, so it's not to tell her

1881
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 3: her supervisors of a missed meeting. In August twenty eighteen,

1882
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 3: I still made an entry report faced to face visit

1883
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 3: with a child while taking her to a Richmond, Indian

1884
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 3: and a youth services center. She stated the visit happen

1885
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:23,719
Speaker 3: in the online system on July thirteenth, twenty eighteen.

1886
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 2: Oh, but it actually happened in August. Wow.

1887
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 3: However, investigator's interviewed the foster parent who would have been

1888
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 3: involved in the visit, and the foster parents said Castill

1889
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:34,879
Speaker 3: canceled the visit due to the death of her stepfather,

1890
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 3: so it never even happened.

1891
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 6: Wow.

1892
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 3: She couldn't explain why she in the July thirteenth visit

1893
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 3: what she knew it didn't happen. Court documents details similar

1894
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 3: instances were Castill set up of meeting but then canceled it. Afterward,

1895
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 3: she uploaded paperwork saying.

1896
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 2: That the visit happened.

1897
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 3: She did admit the investigators that a couple of visits

1898
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 3: didn't happen. Oh God, Court Kids Court on Lairecu. She's

1899
01:32:57,880 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 3: been released on her own recognizance ahead of her in

1900
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 3: this your hearing set for Wednesday. What she said, She's

1901
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 3: definitely gonna show up too, and if not, she'll fill

1902
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 3: the paperwork. Karen guessed the race. Her name is Melissa

1903
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 3: Castill White. All right, just check the chat room and

1904
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 3: see what they believe.

1905
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 2: White. All right, Jane White says Mary. I didn't know.

1906
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 3: I couldn't do that White, her own recognizance. White was

1907
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:33,759
Speaker 3: too scared to go to the neighborhood where the children

1908
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 3: were living. White passing, Latina, fuck them kids, white possible,

1909
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 3: white woman. All right, well, it looks like most of

1910
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:43,639
Speaker 3: you got well, pretty much everybody went white.

1911
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 2: The correct answer is white.

1912
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give kkn that white pass and Latina one,

1913
01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 3: even though they're like a regular ass white woman to me.

1914
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 2: So she just wasn't seeing them kids, all right.

1915
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 4: She shore was casting that paycheck, though she was on

1916
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 4: that they might go back and.

1917
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 2: Take back pay.

1918
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 3: She was on that future visitation. I ain't seeing them kids.

1919
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get on this wrap track and say

1920
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 3: I did.

1921
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's go oh sorry, h it's sword ratching

1922
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 2: this time, y'all.

1923
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 3: Uh, Let's see a man accused of breaking in the

1924
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 3: Canton church and stealing the sword.

1925
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 2: Oh ur right, what what the fucking person?

1926
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 6: I was like?

1927
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 4: Did I hear that?

1928
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 6: Right?

1929
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 2: I thought so it was supposed to. I thought church

1930
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 2: is supposed to be about peace and Jesus and shit.

1931
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 4: Man, I know that said cut like a two aagg sword,

1932
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 4: but goddamn it didn't mean for it to be a

1933
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 4: real sword.

1934
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 3: My sword in my shield now was arrested on Thursday

1935
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 3: after thirty say he broke it to a church. Addison

1936
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 3: Rudd nineteen black of canting his charge of vandalism, desecration

1937
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 3: and breaking the entry rud through a stone marker through

1938
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,640
Speaker 3: a glass window to get in the Saint Michael the

1939
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 3: arch Angel Catholic Church on January twelfth, According to documents,

1940
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 3: While inside, he pried open the door used using a

1941
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 3: crucifix before stealing a cross and the sword. Wow skeedules

1942
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 3: being rained on Friday morning. That is why is that

1943
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 3: even in the church.

1944
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 2: I just will never know.

1945
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 3: You never know, all right, child, that's it, man, Let's

1946
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 3: all start Black History month overstarting tomorrow. I'm gonna go

1947
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 3: ahead control out the leak black History, put it in

1948
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 3: Rice overnight and hopefully over tomorrow wake up in the morning,

1949
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 3: black History will be acting right, and we'll see we

1950
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 3: can get the rest of these days for the month.

1951
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 2: And I still feel like it's not too late.

1952
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 3: To salvage at least seventeen days of black history out

1953
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 3: of this. So we're just gonna see what we can do,

1954
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 3: all right, until then. Oh and then tomorrow, I'm not

1955
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:16,719
Speaker 3: sure when the show will be because we got furniture

1956
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 3: being delivered from two to six, okay, and you know

1957
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 3: how that goes, Yeah, anywhere between that time. Hopefully it'll

1958
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 3: be you know, before you but if not, we'll see,

1959
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 3: all right, y'all. Oh, and then this too much will

1960
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 3: probably be Friday morning. Me and BOSSI will be doing

1961
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 3: two weeks of the show, all right, y'all. Until then,

1962
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 3: I love you, I love you.

1963
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Speaker 4: Why