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Speaker 1: I definitely want to hear from you guys, and today
Speaker 1: I want to get right to it. Because chat Chasm
Speaker 1: we we have had several conversations in the past. I
Speaker 1: think that she is beautiful, she's smart. I love the
Speaker 1: fact that she's outspoken. She's also after Latina. She is
Speaker 1: all about women empowerment. She supports and she supports more
Speaker 1: than a lot of people that have bigger platforms could
Speaker 1: She's created a movement, a wave. I mean she is
Speaker 1: everything A lot of you guys see like I didn't
Speaker 1: know her like that, but as soon as they told
Speaker 1: me I'm not your guest today is She's from Bana
Speaker 1: and she's a creator of a multimedia platform dedicated to
Speaker 1: the history and evolution of Regestas. Welcome to exactly a
Speaker 1: Madam Marten, Thank you for having me. What an introduction.
Speaker 1: I feel that ten times about you. I love you
Speaker 1: having to be here. Thank you know, I'm super proud
Speaker 1: and honored to have you today on the show. I
Speaker 1: feel like, um we I don't know why it hasn't
Speaker 1: happened yet, but one of my dreams and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put it out to the Universethaniel somehow, even if it's
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. I need to figure out,
Speaker 1: you know what, I should write it down so I
Speaker 1: don't forget. But um we need to do something where
Speaker 1: the all the after latinos we really come together and
Speaker 1: do something annually, something where we continue to support because
Speaker 1: I really hate when when we start well I don't
Speaker 1: want to say when we started, but it's very few
Speaker 1: of us that use our platform and our voices not
Speaker 1: only to entertain, but also to also to talk about
Speaker 1: real things that happened in our community and all those things.
Speaker 1: And you're one of those people that are very outspoken.
Speaker 1: Wins that I see me once that I see it. Okay,
Speaker 1: we have to uplift mass after Latinos or more Latino's overall.
Speaker 1: So what inspires you to be so outspoken and vocal
Speaker 1: when it comes to the music industry and also the
Speaker 1: AFRI Latino community. Thank you there, Um, What can I say?
Speaker 1: I created my platform in college. UM, I studied UM
Speaker 1: the the industry. I studied racism in the industry. I
Speaker 1: have the honor of interviewing some grades UM and the
Speaker 1: data was depressing. Um. The data was was tough, you know,
Speaker 1: and it painted me a very clear picture of just
Speaker 1: how difficult it is to move in the Latin music industry. Right.
Speaker 1: Moving in music is not easy in general. I know
Speaker 1: you know this, so you're they here, Okay, if it's
Speaker 1: this hard, let me make a platform for myself to
Speaker 1: give myself a voice. And the way I moved just
Speaker 1: in general, but both in front of them behind the camera.
Speaker 1: You're simple Flores I'm very serious about that. I'm all
Speaker 1: about giving people their flowers. I'm not a first and
Speaker 1: I won't be the last. And the only way that
Speaker 1: we will move forward is if we give each other
Speaker 1: our our credit are flores and a space to really
Speaker 1: be to be, you know, because none. So I'm grateful
Speaker 1: that you know, the platform took off and me, Um,
Speaker 1: if we don't see each other, who will you know?
Speaker 1: Most definitely what inspired you UM specifically to do because
Speaker 1: as you know, it's it's a it's a big part
Speaker 1: of the community. But there's so many different genres, right
Speaker 1: and didn't give ba laa like everything you can think of?
Speaker 1: Why the genre specifically? Um? Yes, American? Now right, my
Speaker 1: they talk about, um the Jamaicans who immigranted to Panama
Speaker 1: to work in the Canal. I'm like, you made my
Speaker 1: grand father the Panamins who speak Patua and Spanish. I'm
Speaker 1: like me, what I love me? My mom ste s
Speaker 1: So it's like it's it's just parallel to the history
Speaker 1: of my family. UM. And of course I was raising Boston.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Boston a bunch of bunny light holes.
Speaker 1: I was raised by bunny like Dominicans. UM, shout out
Speaker 1: to me, Bunny, I'm in d R right now, Um
Speaker 1: shout down. You already know dang r yes um. I
Speaker 1: was raised by Dominicans um and bodiq was and Natra.
Speaker 1: It just stuck to me. You know, my mom she
Speaker 1: would so um like that. Yes. So I became gata
Speaker 1: by the person who was always throwing the house party's um,
Speaker 1: you know, and it just pretty much came naturally, like
Speaker 1: my love for you're nothing. To be honest. Now, now
Speaker 1: here's something that has been debated for a very long time, right,
Speaker 1: so jo and Puerto Rico local one of these Puerto
Speaker 1: Ricueo las in Puerto Rico, the same thing I've heard
Speaker 1: with Reggaeton. I don't know clarifying me, there's people that
Speaker 1: say Puerto Rico when you talk like a legend, like
Speaker 1: DJ Blast he says, you know, studying in Panama and Panama. So,
Speaker 1: I don't know, how do you feel about it? Since
Speaker 1: this is what you do? You know what both are right?
Speaker 1: This is the thing. So I say that reggaetne right,
Speaker 1: r E g g A E t o Nama and
Speaker 1: that R E g U E t o and Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: Everybody gets their flowers Alfinan. No, no matter how you
Speaker 1: spell it is the convention the Panama Right in the nineties,
Speaker 1: Nando Boom was in the studio with Bobby Digital were
Speaker 1: a sleepy wonder who were making the Dembo Pounder be
Speaker 1: that the be that's Corasonno right, right, So to say
Speaker 1: that it's not Panamanian, it's like it's literally incorrect. A
Speaker 1: Panamanian was there in the studio as a part of
Speaker 1: the process. Right. Um. I think it gets sticky because
Speaker 1: in Latin that we like to stay close to like
Speaker 1: our nation, like our nationality. The idea of a dual
Speaker 1: nationality is like it's like foreign, right, I'm not Panamean,
Speaker 1: I'm paname In Jamaican people hear that, they acknowledge, but
Speaker 1: they still don't get it. You know, there's like a
Speaker 1: subculture there and so I get it and that when
Speaker 1: people say, oh no, it's like yeah, but the Panamans
Speaker 1: are the Jamaicans in this instance. You know, Um, you
Speaker 1: gotta recognize the subculture otherwise you're literally erasing us in
Speaker 1: a contribution. Meanwhile, noos to be honest, like right, they
Speaker 1: really put in their work, nobody now they right? Um?
Speaker 1: I love you like right, but at the same time.
Speaker 1: So that's how I go about it. Both are right,
Speaker 1: It's just it has to be explained that way otherwise,
Speaker 1: and that's not fair. Okay, I I agree. I mean
Speaker 1: I didn't know its history per se the way that
Speaker 1: you are describing it. Important about having these conversations because
Speaker 1: now it also makes me feel like I want to
Speaker 1: go over there and do my own research to find out.
Speaker 1: You know what it is. Um here you go something
Speaker 1: else that I also have heard in something else. I
Speaker 1: want you to break down to me because there has
Speaker 1: always been like a white washing, you know, white washing
Speaker 1: when it comes to music. Um, now, what's happening when
Speaker 1: it comes to you feel that this is currently happening.
Speaker 1: It's something that happened. I think that we are pastgeton.
Speaker 1: I don't think what's being made right now could even
Speaker 1: be considered. I think it's considered. I call it. It's
Speaker 1: like popet like even to the max. Because you know
Speaker 1: when the Colombians Colombia UM literally not my words the
Speaker 1: words of Maloma, the words of Jay Balvin is literally
Speaker 1: they took off the timbales, They took off every African
Speaker 1: instrument from the music to make it something that's a
Speaker 1: little bit more pop. Um. And you know, people can
Speaker 1: do what they want. But my mom, so it's a tendencia.
Speaker 1: And that's why a lot of the music we hear now,
Speaker 1: I don't hear the Lanka anymore. That's too like quote
Speaker 1: and quote ghatto. Some people even have the cohors old
Speaker 1: school Yeah, which opinion? Um, So with that sun, Um, Yes,
Speaker 1: there's been a whitewashing. It was deliberate. It was intentional, um,
Speaker 1: both by way of the artists and also by way
Speaker 1: of the industry. Um. And sadly, if in these rooms
Speaker 1: there aren't enough people to tell you're like, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: you make that, and we also make you know, No,
Speaker 1: nobody's in the room stopping this from happening. So I mean,
Speaker 1: why why do you think that there? Why do you
Speaker 1: think that they're not stopping it? Do you think it's convenience?
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna be honest, um, being being in the
Speaker 1: music industry since I was you know, a really you
Speaker 1: know young girl, it's harder. Obviously. I feel that if
Speaker 1: this would have been a whole bunch of like sech
Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of like, I don't know, a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of morenos being the ones to sing their
Speaker 1: own music, their own cultural stuff or whatever. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: be as accepted as obviously when it's cookie cutter and
Speaker 1: they clean up the quote unquote image. Because a lot
Speaker 1: of the times, if you go to the studio, in
Speaker 1: the studio there's a whole bunch of either Jamaicans, Morenos, Latinos,
Speaker 1: Dominican banan, there's a whole bunch of us, but when
Speaker 1: they come up on stage, none of them look like us.
Speaker 1: So I do believe that it's part of convenience, um,
Speaker 1: because it's you know, it's the market, it's society, standards
Speaker 1: of beauty, it's all those things. Do you feel that
Speaker 1: that's ever going to change? Do you ever do you
Speaker 1: feel that there's gonna be a wave? Which sucks to
Speaker 1: even kind of a wave. They shouldn't be a wave,
Speaker 1: But do you think there will ever be progressed in
Speaker 1: that aspect that will be a whole bunch of us
Speaker 1: singing our own music without it having to be you know,
Speaker 1: kind of washed a little bit. I'm trying so hard
Speaker 1: to not be like, yes, everything you're saying, because you know,
Speaker 1: like you've been on the block, you know this, Um.
Speaker 1: Do I think they'll be a wave. This is the thing,
Speaker 1: and and this is what makes it difficult, right, Um,
Speaker 1: and what I was trying to like finish up with
Speaker 1: at the I get it, but I'm in the studio now,
Speaker 1: so now out of my yant and I'm like, this
Speaker 1: costs money. Um, you know I do you want to
Speaker 1: play the game or not? So this is the thing.
Speaker 1: I feel like in order for that to happen and
Speaker 1: to be successful, they would really have to be when
Speaker 1: I'm young, right, we would really need to have a conversation,
Speaker 1: have to get together and be intentional and like make
Speaker 1: it happen, reclaim the culture and let other people do
Speaker 1: what they want to do. Um. And sadly, because I
Speaker 1: get come in. I understand that you know you want
Speaker 1: to make the songs that you know are going to
Speaker 1: hit the radios, that you know certain markets are gonna
Speaker 1: turn the quick book, right, and when it comes time
Speaker 1: down to make the music that you want to make, No,
Speaker 1: I animal, no, I like urso No, I you know
Speaker 1: it's difficult, right, So I feel like, in order afraid
Speaker 1: to happen right now, there's a wave which I agree
Speaker 1: with you that it shouldn't be a wave. It should
Speaker 1: be the dominant. Um. There's a wave of like there
Speaker 1: are people who are tired of this sagatum circle and
Speaker 1: I'm living for it. Um. They're making like pereo, like
Speaker 1: actual pereo um oi in thea um mochosa Requila. We
Speaker 1: really need to like listen to like lo paavo. But
Speaker 1: it's a lot of give and take. It's complicated, it
Speaker 1: isn't it's the point? Yeah, do you feel that the
Speaker 1: same thing happens UM when it comes to because I
Speaker 1: know that I think, okay, so were the relevant as
Speaker 1: important whether you're after Latin or just as a Latina industry,
Speaker 1: how much harder is it or how do you feel
Speaker 1: that as women we have evolved in regat because in
Speaker 1: the days there were very few dona Is obviously you
Speaker 1: know one that would still get and with female is
Speaker 1: ev right, Ivy queens and Anthiana, you know it. It
Speaker 1: was kind of hard because to my understanding, we all
Speaker 1: admired her as women because she was one of the few.
Speaker 1: She also when there with a more masculine energy in
Speaker 1: order to be respected, in order to be UM. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously she came out more feminine and I feel that
Speaker 1: it almost affected her a little bit because people wanted
Speaker 1: to see that that tough, that toughness in her. But
Speaker 1: then at the same time, now we see that are
Speaker 1: much more sexualized, are much more sexi or ec and
Speaker 1: handed out cambiallo. But when you listen to cat g
Speaker 1: or Becky g or Natasha, or you listen to the
Speaker 1: women that are now predominating, how do you feel that
Speaker 1: don't have evolved and changed for women? I think you
Speaker 1: said it perfectly in the Queen so La Patriot route
Speaker 1: gown um who you know, she was a little bit
Speaker 1: on the I'd say on, yeah, on the masculine side,
Speaker 1: Tambia and going the heater was handed on, you know,
Speaker 1: thinking about women's autonomy and sexual agency in Mexico. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, we definitely I feel that so many times
Speaker 1: we talked about and we've been leaving him out, but
Speaker 1: when I missed them both right, you know, I'm that
Speaker 1: much older, but he was like the first person I
Speaker 1: can think of that was singing reg but we here
Speaker 1: now as reget do you play that music? So I
Speaker 1: definitely am like, yeah, if that you're right, you know
Speaker 1: I did, but um Panama or no, definitely, So the
Speaker 1: first of all handedo Urbano Panama Um and he was
Speaker 1: in a quarta. It was actually him and not the book,
Speaker 1: No excuse me. It was Renato and handed On and
Speaker 1: Reggae Sam. They were the four first group um of
Speaker 1: Hando and that they translated music from Patua to Spanish,
Speaker 1: made Soka, made dance so mid regae, and then and
Speaker 1: handed On went a little bit more commercial, made what
Speaker 1: we call now Regaton produced by Michael Ellis UM and
Speaker 1: he rest in peace. Um and Dada. She was the
Speaker 1: one who could hang with the guys. Um, but even
Speaker 1: queen and answering the previous with the women, I would
Speaker 1: definitely say that the earlier women and I mean evy
Speaker 1: queen at a glory glow Um had to like tap
Speaker 1: into their you know, their hood sign to like make
Speaker 1: the men forget that they are women. Um. And I'm
Speaker 1: very happy now that they're more women. But elas like negras,
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm tired of feeling crazy. It's actually
Speaker 1: what influenced me to give it a shot, honestly, being
Speaker 1: inspired by you, being inspired by Salia, being inspired by
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm tired of the industry, feeling like there
Speaker 1: could only be one great Negra like and it's like
Speaker 1: and yet, um, I'm tired of seeing us added into
Speaker 1: token playlists plist Yeah no, no, no playlist. You know
Speaker 1: What's like just like just like they'll they'll do the
Speaker 1: it's Black History month, you know, after so in that
Speaker 1: month it will be like the most light that you're
Speaker 1: gonna get after that is like, you know, I was surprised,
Speaker 1: not the way I'm indeed super talented, but I was
Speaker 1: surprised when I saw such come out. I was like,
Speaker 1: whoa do we have a black person? And it wasn't
Speaker 1: a black cooking cutter. It was just he's talented. This
Speaker 1: is what it is. I look like this, it's like
Speaker 1: a I whatever. Um, do I feel that he gets
Speaker 1: as much flowers as he could in comparison to other talents? No?
Speaker 1: Do I feel that. I almost feel like they opened
Speaker 1: the door for him. And it's like, y'all need to
Speaker 1: be grateful, right that we allowed him, Like he's the
Speaker 1: one that's going to represent all of y'all. That's it.
Speaker 1: We got one. And if you look at the billboards
Speaker 1: and you look at the charts, you can actually count
Speaker 1: out with one hand equ without how many negroes or more.
Speaker 1: After this in the end, are really on this list.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't want to say that they took
Speaker 1: our music or culture book. I know that I understand
Speaker 1: how perhaps we have influenced. We are music, our culture,
Speaker 1: our sound or food, our style, our hairstyle or everything
Speaker 1: are features all of us have affected the whole world,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, not just musically. So I
Speaker 1: get that part, Okay, someone who names speed we are
Speaker 1: It's okay, Like I get it, and that we don't
Speaker 1: want to ruffle no feathers. But it's it's okay to
Speaker 1: say that they stole because I did, you know, like
Speaker 1: but even like it hurts turning on the TV and
Speaker 1: it's like, look at everything about me except me, Like
Speaker 1: that hurts, you know, like, h it's true. And then
Speaker 1: that's what they'll do. Okay. Commercially is more accepted. They
Speaker 1: sing it, they become rich, they become the image now
Speaker 1: with this music, with the sound is and you completely
Speaker 1: get discredit, You completely get erased from the map, even
Speaker 1: though that you created this. So I definitely agree. Um
Speaker 1: if it is hard to see it, and I'll ask
Speaker 1: you this too, you've been um in the Rolling Stone magazine.
Speaker 1: We need to see at eight times you have done
Speaker 1: it all. Tell us about the work you're doing right
Speaker 1: now and how can we support you? Know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: It's been a journey. Um. I started off in Lamega
Speaker 1: in Boston, um, talking about race and colors, and there
Speaker 1: I realized like, if I'm gonna reach a bigger audience,
Speaker 1: I need to take more to the internet. Um the
Speaker 1: hella mega uh um. And then I started doing more
Speaker 1: interviews behind the scenes, like behind concerts, which I from
Speaker 1: was very difficult because I remember I interviewed you in
Speaker 1: in um Boston, yeah, um with that beautiful blue Manda,
Speaker 1: You're so pretty. Yeah. So I started like that, you know,
Speaker 1: doing behind the scenes. But that's not easy because perfect example,
Speaker 1: you were exhausted, do not get you wanted to go home?
Speaker 1: I get it, um, you know, and artists just gave
Speaker 1: us they're all on stage and then it's nothing easy. Um.
Speaker 1: And then you know like, um, so we won't be
Speaker 1: there on Twitter virang and I expanded my base from
Speaker 1: there and Poco Contrado um, and I was tapped on
Speaker 1: the shoulder. Um. It was like a two way street.
Speaker 1: My point. Um, Yes, I was doing this work, but
Speaker 1: also I feel like the industry was ready to have
Speaker 1: these conversations in writing, but I didn't know whose shoulder
Speaker 1: to tap, And it's it's a gamble, right, talking about
Speaker 1: these topics. It's difficult because the publicists are right there.
Speaker 1: I get that feather. So I was tapped on the
Speaker 1: shoulder to write an op ed for Club because that
Speaker 1: the summer when George Floyd died and everybody was really
Speaker 1: showing their colors and it was really bad. Um, nobody
Speaker 1: didn't really know how to talk about nobody like no
Speaker 1: white Latino artists know how to knew how to talk
Speaker 1: about race, and um, it was evident the industry looked
Speaker 1: really bad. Well as bad as things are right because okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you're sl me right, um either um henty like done
Speaker 1: ones like you're not. That's not my point. My point
Speaker 1: is not to put anybody down. My point is to
Speaker 1: make people feel bad, Like what's the point of that?
Speaker 1: Like either point? What did I saw? Right? My point is,
Speaker 1: let's recognize the issues that that exists, right as a
Speaker 1: continuation of many conversations that you've had a Mata and
Speaker 1: people who have come before me, and let's get to
Speaker 1: the point. Let's go to a solution like Bama Black Clad,
Speaker 1: They're OK, and like, let's talk about these things exactly
Speaker 1: how they are. So I've had the honor of talking
Speaker 1: on race and music and Rolling Stone and l a times,
Speaker 1: um talking about I get the own versus classical music,
Speaker 1: which was an honor. Um. You know, my platform is
Speaker 1: a bridge between academia and entertainment because I said, you know,
Speaker 1: people really should have the tools to learn about their
Speaker 1: own history. I was tired as a panamania like talking
Speaker 1: about the vices of people looking at me like you're
Speaker 1: so cute. We don't know what you're talking about, Like
Speaker 1: what in Like that's crazy. Um. So at the it's
Speaker 1: been a very difficult journey. Um, I made sure to
Speaker 1: to give people our flowers and really have people understand that.
Speaker 1: But I'm not because oh so, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: throw the industry array so that nobody's getting money. Let's
Speaker 1: get money and let's do things right. Hip. Probably it's
Speaker 1: based off off of the Civil Rights movement. There's a
Speaker 1: legacy of centering blackness that should be evident in Latin
Speaker 1: music and it's not. That is the point. Um. I
Speaker 1: always feel like Latino and that aspect we're always a
Speaker 1: little bit more like behind in comparison to like, you know,
Speaker 1: even when you look at the African American community, and
Speaker 1: then I think that that's why I also when I
Speaker 1: was vocal about colorism and racism in my community as
Speaker 1: an Alfri Latina, everybody was like, oh my god, what
Speaker 1: you know? But that's because the Latino we're not necessarily
Speaker 1: as outspoken. We haven't really been as you know, vocal
Speaker 1: about our issues. We kind of conformal with knowing what
Speaker 1: our place is and being like this is how they
Speaker 1: treat us. We get it and we just do with it,
Speaker 1: and this is how we go about it. And that's
Speaker 1: not the way obviously to progress, whether it is in music,
Speaker 1: whether it's in politics, whether it is in whatever industry. Um,
Speaker 1: you have to be vocal about equality when it comes
Speaker 1: to that, right. But UM, on a more positive light,
Speaker 1: what the art is? Are there any artists out there
Speaker 1: right now that you're like, be out in the lookout?
Speaker 1: I um, most of us who are a trio of
Speaker 1: Colombian our Afro Colombian Argentine sisters who are put in
Speaker 1: the music out there. They just released a song called
Speaker 1: Destino and now they're working on an afrobeats and we're
Speaker 1: excited to see what comes from them. Melaner, we just
Speaker 1: gotta say each old. Really, Melana, who's been you know
Speaker 1: here for a little bit lay party with Nicana. She's
Speaker 1: so pretty. Finale who makes like very upbeat music at
Speaker 1: the den morn I have a threat on Twitter. I
Speaker 1: have many threads on Twitter, but free to slide up
Speaker 1: in my d m s because I always want to
Speaker 1: be able to support a k you know that they
Speaker 1: have a way that they're doing good. If there's any
Speaker 1: way that I can at least post your music and
Speaker 1: support some way somehow, I would love to be able
Speaker 1: to do that because it starts with us. It's like, yes,
Speaker 1: we hear about it, we know about it, um, but
Speaker 1: then what are you doing? Because a lot of times
Speaker 1: it's you know, will go support somebody that doesn't even
Speaker 1: know who we are UM and doesn't add necessarily any
Speaker 1: value to our community, But those that really do need
Speaker 1: us we don't. So if there's anything that I can do,
Speaker 1: count me in uh and later on in the future
Speaker 1: being able to create something annually then we come together
Speaker 1: and really do something. I'm definitely gonna have you in
Speaker 1: mind that where can they follow you? Where can they
Speaker 1: support you? Where can they hear more of your work?
Speaker 1: Thank you? I really quick just want to give a
Speaker 1: shout out to UM Afro Latino Festival because you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like they've a large part of my my following,
Speaker 1: my support of why I even got the visibility that
Speaker 1: I needed UM is because they have an amazing event
Speaker 1: that they pull every year, them being UM where they
Speaker 1: like really make sure that we have a safe space.
Speaker 1: So UM, but also thank you so much. UM is
Speaker 1: available everywhere, but one on one is getting a face withthem.
Speaker 1: We're excited for you guys to see that UM available
Speaker 1: on all digital platforms and as well as for those
Speaker 1: who are looking for a more academic type standardization of
Speaker 1: all the information that I throw out there, check out
Speaker 1: academy w dot what you heard it here? Umga, I'm
Speaker 1: so grateful to have you as usual. Like I said,
Speaker 1: it's always an honor talking to you and UH start
Speaker 1: up in my d M. Show me how I can support,
Speaker 1: show me what I gotta do, and I can see
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer. Unite forces. We can only but
Speaker 1: become stronger and become better. Thank you everyone once again
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