WEBVTT - Hablando Reggaeton con La Gata 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:09.080 Welcome, Welcome guys with your girl and you're listening to 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:14.760 Exactly A Mada. Welcome back, guys. I've missed you all week. Batto. 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.560 I am grateful that you guys continue to download and 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.079 subscribe to Exactly Amada. I'm so grateful for that. I 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.560 love the reviews so far, so good, great reviews. I'm 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:27.440 grateful for it. You have to saw it, whether it 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:32.560 is on the YouTube channel or on the podcast, whether 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:36.040 it's good or bad, or comment or there's something specific 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.639 you want me to talk about that being a creement 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:41.760 and let me know what's happening, what's popping. And by 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.400 the way, let me send you with the stars. Let 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:46.880 me send you with the stars and rate us five 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:49.199 stars and share this podcast with your friends. You from 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:53.800 going everybody that you know to stop it. But anyways, um, 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.560 I definitely want to hear from you guys, and today 0:00:56.760 --> 0:01:02.000 I want to get right to it. Because chat Chasm 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.399 we we have had several conversations in the past. I 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.080 think that she is beautiful, she's smart. I love the 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:14.200 fact that she's outspoken. She's also after Latina. She is 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:18.600 all about women empowerment. She supports and she supports more 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.479 than a lot of people that have bigger platforms could 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:25.399 She's created a movement, a wave. I mean she is 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:29.440 everything A lot of you guys see like I didn't 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:31.080 know her like that, but as soon as they told 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:35.720 me I'm not your guest today is She's from Bana 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:42.600 and she's a creator of a multimedia platform dedicated to 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:48.760 the history and evolution of Regestas. Welcome to exactly a 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:53.960 Madam Marten, Thank you for having me. What an introduction. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:58.160 I feel that ten times about you. I love you 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:02.760 having to be here. Thank you know, I'm super proud 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.240 and honored to have you today on the show. I 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:09.240 feel like, um we I don't know why it hasn't 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.359 happened yet, but one of my dreams and I'm gonna 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:16.120 put it out to the Universethaniel somehow, even if it's 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:17.880 at the end of the year. I need to figure out, 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:18.959 you know what, I should write it down so I 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:22.359 don't forget. But um we need to do something where 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.240 the all the after latinos we really come together and 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:29.160 do something annually, something where we continue to support because 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.120 I really hate when when we start well I don't 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.960 want to say when we started, but it's very few 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.720 of us that use our platform and our voices not 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.600 only to entertain, but also to also to talk about 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.760 real things that happened in our community and all those things. 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.480 And you're one of those people that are very outspoken. 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:51.200 Wins that I see me once that I see it. Okay, 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:54.760 we have to uplift mass after Latinos or more Latino's overall. 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.800 So what inspires you to be so outspoken and vocal 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.440 when it comes to the music industry and also the 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:05.679 AFRI Latino community. Thank you there, Um, What can I say? 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:09.919 I created my platform in college. UM, I studied UM 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:14.120 the the industry. I studied racism in the industry. I 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:17.640 have the honor of interviewing some grades UM and the 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:22.359 data was depressing. Um. The data was was tough, you know, 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.200 and it painted me a very clear picture of just 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:29.800 how difficult it is to move in the Latin music industry. Right. 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.080 Moving in music is not easy in general. I know 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.280 you know this, so you're they here, Okay, if it's 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.720 this hard, let me make a platform for myself to 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:42.440 give myself a voice. And the way I moved just 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.280 in general, but both in front of them behind the camera. 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:50.760 You're simple Flores I'm very serious about that. I'm all 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.440 about giving people their flowers. I'm not a first and 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.880 I won't be the last. And the only way that 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.200 we will move forward is if we give each other 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:03.840 our our credit are flores and a space to really 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:08.640 be to be, you know, because none. So I'm grateful 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:14.520 that you know, the platform took off and me, Um, 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.279 if we don't see each other, who will you know? 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:23.839 Most definitely what inspired you UM specifically to do because 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:30.119 as you know, it's it's a it's a big part 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.479 of the community. But there's so many different genres, right 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:40.280 and didn't give ba laa like everything you can think of? 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:52.800 Why the genre specifically? Um? Yes, American? Now right, my 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:57.360 they talk about, um the Jamaicans who immigranted to Panama 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.680 to work in the Canal. I'm like, you made my 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:04.160 grand father the Panamins who speak Patua and Spanish. I'm 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.359 like me, what I love me? My mom ste s 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:11.880 So it's like it's it's just parallel to the history 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.520 of my family. UM. And of course I was raising Boston. 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:19.080 Shout out to Boston a bunch of bunny light holes. 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:22.320 I was raised by bunny like Dominicans. UM, shout out 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:28.360 to me, Bunny, I'm in d R right now, Um 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:36.400 shout down. You already know dang r yes um. I 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:41.560 was raised by Dominicans um and bodiq was and Natra. 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.320 It just stuck to me. You know, my mom she 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:55.880 would so um like that. Yes. So I became gata 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:59.160 by the person who was always throwing the house party's um, 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.360 you know, and it just pretty much came naturally, like 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:06.200 my love for you're nothing. To be honest. Now, now 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:10.880 here's something that has been debated for a very long time, right, 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:21.560 so jo and Puerto Rico local one of these Puerto 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:27.839 Ricueo las in Puerto Rico, the same thing I've heard 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:31.440 with Reggaeton. I don't know clarifying me, there's people that 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:35.040 say Puerto Rico when you talk like a legend, like 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:41.360 DJ Blast he says, you know, studying in Panama and Panama. So, 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.239 I don't know, how do you feel about it? Since 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:49.719 this is what you do? You know what both are right? 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:54.960 This is the thing. So I say that reggaetne right, 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:59.800 r E g g A E t o Nama and 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:04.120 that R E g U E t o and Puerto Rico. 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:10.040 Everybody gets their flowers Alfinan. No, no matter how you 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:17.840 spell it is the convention the Panama Right in the nineties, 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.600 Nando Boom was in the studio with Bobby Digital were 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:25.520 a sleepy wonder who were making the Dembo Pounder be 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:34.760 that the be that's Corasonno right, right, So to say 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.600 that it's not Panamanian, it's like it's literally incorrect. A 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.560 Panamanian was there in the studio as a part of 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:44.600 the process. Right. Um. I think it gets sticky because 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.520 in Latin that we like to stay close to like 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:52.400 our nation, like our nationality. The idea of a dual 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:56.600 nationality is like it's like foreign, right, I'm not Panamean, 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:00.520 I'm paname In Jamaican people hear that, they acknowledge, but 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.840 they still don't get it. You know, there's like a 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:06.320 subculture there and so I get it and that when 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:11.520 people say, oh no, it's like yeah, but the Panamans 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.920 are the Jamaicans in this instance. You know, Um, you 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.800 gotta recognize the subculture otherwise you're literally erasing us in 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:29.280 a contribution. Meanwhile, noos to be honest, like right, they 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:35.680 really put in their work, nobody now they right? Um? 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:43.600 I love you like right, but at the same time. 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.360 So that's how I go about it. Both are right, 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.520 It's just it has to be explained that way otherwise, 0:08:52.440 --> 0:09:03.959 and that's not fair. Okay, I I agree. I mean 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.720 I didn't know its history per se the way that 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:12.000 you are describing it. Important about having these conversations because 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:13.840 now it also makes me feel like I want to 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.360 go over there and do my own research to find out. 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.720 You know what it is. Um here you go something 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.680 else that I also have heard in something else. I 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:24.920 want you to break down to me because there has 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.319 always been like a white washing, you know, white washing 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:31.839 when it comes to music. Um, now, what's happening when 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.520 it comes to you feel that this is currently happening. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:40.200 It's something that happened. I think that we are pastgeton. 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.680 I don't think what's being made right now could even 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:47.040 be considered. I think it's considered. I call it. It's 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:52.120 like popet like even to the max. Because you know 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:57.600 when the Colombians Colombia UM literally not my words the 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:10.880 words of Maloma, the words of Jay Balvin is literally 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.719 they took off the timbales, They took off every African 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:18.440 instrument from the music to make it something that's a 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.360 little bit more pop. Um. And you know, people can 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:27.960 do what they want. But my mom, so it's a tendencia. 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.560 And that's why a lot of the music we hear now, 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:38.280 I don't hear the Lanka anymore. That's too like quote 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.720 and quote ghatto. Some people even have the cohors old 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:49.160 school Yeah, which opinion? Um, So with that sun, Um, Yes, 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:54.040 there's been a whitewashing. It was deliberate. It was intentional, um, 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.440 both by way of the artists and also by way 0:10:56.480 --> 0:11:00.000 of the industry. Um. And sadly, if in these rooms 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.760 there aren't enough people to tell you're like, hey, hey, 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:10.120 you make that, and we also make you know, No, 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.400 nobody's in the room stopping this from happening. So I mean, 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:16.600 why why do you think that there? Why do you 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.479 think that they're not stopping it? Do you think it's convenience? 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.880 Because I'm gonna be honest, um, being being in the 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.840 music industry since I was you know, a really you 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:30.840 know young girl, it's harder. Obviously. I feel that if 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.320 this would have been a whole bunch of like sech 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.480 and a whole bunch of like, I don't know, a 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.320 whole bunch of morenos being the ones to sing their 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.600 own music, their own cultural stuff or whatever. It wouldn't 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:47.280 be as accepted as obviously when it's cookie cutter and 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.280 they clean up the quote unquote image. Because a lot 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.679 of the times, if you go to the studio, in 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:59.120 the studio there's a whole bunch of either Jamaicans, Morenos, Latinos, 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:03.360 Dominican banan, there's a whole bunch of us, but when 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.600 they come up on stage, none of them look like us. 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:12.000 So I do believe that it's part of convenience, um, 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.640 because it's you know, it's the market, it's society, standards 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.400 of beauty, it's all those things. Do you feel that 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.320 that's ever going to change? Do you ever do you 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:24.120 feel that there's gonna be a wave? Which sucks to 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:25.800 even kind of a wave. They shouldn't be a wave, 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.360 But do you think there will ever be progressed in 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.800 that aspect that will be a whole bunch of us 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:34.000 singing our own music without it having to be you know, 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:37.440 kind of washed a little bit. I'm trying so hard 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:42.160 to not be like, yes, everything you're saying, because you know, 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.120 like you've been on the block, you know this, Um. 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.720 Do I think they'll be a wave. This is the thing, 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.640 and and this is what makes it difficult, right, Um, 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.080 and what I was trying to like finish up with 0:12:53.679 --> 0:13:01.480 at the I get it, but I'm in the studio now, 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.520 so now out of my yant and I'm like, this 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:08.120 costs money. Um, you know I do you want to 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:12.360 play the game or not? So this is the thing. 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.600 I feel like in order for that to happen and 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.719 to be successful, they would really have to be when 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.680 I'm young, right, we would really need to have a conversation, 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:26.720 have to get together and be intentional and like make 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:30.800 it happen, reclaim the culture and let other people do 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.400 what they want to do. Um. And sadly, because I 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.880 get come in. I understand that you know you want 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:39.719 to make the songs that you know are going to 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.760 hit the radios, that you know certain markets are gonna 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.800 turn the quick book, right, and when it comes time 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.880 down to make the music that you want to make, No, 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:52.480 I animal, no, I like urso No, I you know 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:55.560 it's difficult, right, So I feel like, in order afraid 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.440 to happen right now, there's a wave which I agree 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:00.000 with you that it shouldn't be a wave. It should 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:04.080 be the dominant. Um. There's a wave of like there 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.120 are people who are tired of this sagatum circle and 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.680 I'm living for it. Um. They're making like pereo, like 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:21.520 actual pereo um oi in thea um mochosa Requila. We 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.920 really need to like listen to like lo paavo. But 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.320 it's a lot of give and take. It's complicated, it 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:38.040 isn't it's the point? Yeah, do you feel that the 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:44.360 same thing happens UM when it comes to because I 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:49.360 know that I think, okay, so were the relevant as 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:54.320 important whether you're after Latin or just as a Latina industry, 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.400 how much harder is it or how do you feel 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.200 that as women we have evolved in regat because in 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.440 the days there were very few dona Is obviously you 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:07.000 know one that would still get and with female is 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:13.480 ev right, Ivy queens and Anthiana, you know it. It 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:18.680 was kind of hard because to my understanding, we all 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.600 admired her as women because she was one of the few. 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.480 She also when there with a more masculine energy in 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:30.920 order to be respected, in order to be UM. Now, 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.520 obviously she came out more feminine and I feel that 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.960 it almost affected her a little bit because people wanted 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:41.480 to see that that tough, that toughness in her. But 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:46.080 then at the same time, now we see that are 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:50.440 much more sexualized, are much more sexi or ec and 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.000 handed out cambiallo. But when you listen to cat g 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.760 or Becky g or Natasha, or you listen to the 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:00.120 women that are now predominating, how do you feel that 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.720 don't have evolved and changed for women? I think you 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:13.040 said it perfectly in the Queen so La Patriot route 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:16.840 gown um who you know, she was a little bit 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.880 on the I'd say on, yeah, on the masculine side, 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.080 Tambia and going the heater was handed on, you know, 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:30.280 thinking about women's autonomy and sexual agency in Mexico. Oh 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:35.200 my god, we definitely I feel that so many times 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.760 we talked about and we've been leaving him out, but 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:45.520 when I missed them both right, you know, I'm that 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.800 much older, but he was like the first person I 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.440 can think of that was singing reg but we here 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:57.720 now as reget do you play that music? So I 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.920 definitely am like, yeah, if that you're right, you know 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:11.399 I did, but um Panama or no, definitely, So the 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:17.879 first of all handedo Urbano Panama Um and he was 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:22.760 in a quarta. It was actually him and not the book, 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:28.320 No excuse me. It was Renato and handed On and 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:32.600 Reggae Sam. They were the four first group um of 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:38.119 Hando and that they translated music from Patua to Spanish, 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:42.520 made Soka, made dance so mid regae, and then and 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.080 handed On went a little bit more commercial, made what 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.440 we call now Regaton produced by Michael Ellis UM and 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:52.920 he rest in peace. Um and Dada. She was the 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.080 one who could hang with the guys. Um, but even 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.600 queen and answering the previous with the women, I would 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.600 definitely say that the earlier women and I mean evy 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:07.480 queen at a glory glow Um had to like tap 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:11.560 into their you know, their hood sign to like make 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.840 the men forget that they are women. Um. And I'm 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:23.280 very happy now that they're more women. But elas like negras, 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.879 like you know, I'm tired of feeling crazy. It's actually 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.520 what influenced me to give it a shot, honestly, being 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.919 inspired by you, being inspired by Salia, being inspired by 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.280 I'm like, I'm tired of the industry, feeling like there 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:45.320 could only be one great Negra like and it's like 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:48.840 and yet, um, I'm tired of seeing us added into 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:59.680 token playlists plist Yeah no, no, no playlist. You know 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:05.359 What's like just like just like they'll they'll do the 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:12.520 it's Black History month, you know, after so in that 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.040 month it will be like the most light that you're 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:19.240 gonna get after that is like, you know, I was surprised, 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:23.359 not the way I'm indeed super talented, but I was 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.920 surprised when I saw such come out. I was like, 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.800 whoa do we have a black person? And it wasn't 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:32.960 a black cooking cutter. It was just he's talented. This 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.320 is what it is. I look like this, it's like 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:38.840 a I whatever. Um, do I feel that he gets 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:42.920 as much flowers as he could in comparison to other talents? No? 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.520 Do I feel that. I almost feel like they opened 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:48.600 the door for him. And it's like, y'all need to 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:52.040 be grateful, right that we allowed him, Like he's the 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.320 one that's going to represent all of y'all. That's it. 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.680 We got one. And if you look at the billboards 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.000 and you look at the charts, you can actually count 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:05.200 out with one hand equ without how many negroes or more. 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.040 After this in the end, are really on this list. 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.280 It's like I don't want to say that they took 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:14.200 our music or culture book. I know that I understand 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:18.440 how perhaps we have influenced. We are music, our culture, 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:22.040 our sound or food, our style, our hairstyle or everything 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:26.720 are features all of us have affected the whole world, 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.800 you know what I'm saying, not just musically. So I 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:36.320 get that part, Okay, someone who names speed we are 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.920 It's okay, Like I get it, and that we don't 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:44.200 want to ruffle no feathers. But it's it's okay to 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:47.720 say that they stole because I did, you know, like 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:54.280 but even like it hurts turning on the TV and 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:57.639 it's like, look at everything about me except me, Like 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:03.520 that hurts, you know, like, h it's true. And then 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:10.640 that's what they'll do. Okay. Commercially is more accepted. They 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:13.280 sing it, they become rich, they become the image now 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:16.320 with this music, with the sound is and you completely 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:21.080 get discredit, You completely get erased from the map, even 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:24.840 though that you created this. So I definitely agree. Um 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.240 if it is hard to see it, and I'll ask 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:32.000 you this too, you've been um in the Rolling Stone magazine. 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:34.560 We need to see at eight times you have done 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:37.719 it all. Tell us about the work you're doing right 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:40.800 now and how can we support you? Know what you're doing. 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:49.560 It's been a journey. Um. I started off in Lamega 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:52.840 in Boston, um, talking about race and colors, and there 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:56.400 I realized like, if I'm gonna reach a bigger audience, 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:59.320 I need to take more to the internet. Um the 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.520 hella mega uh um. And then I started doing more 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:07.800 interviews behind the scenes, like behind concerts, which I from 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:11.440 was very difficult because I remember I interviewed you in 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:18.760 in um Boston, yeah, um with that beautiful blue Manda, 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:23.320 You're so pretty. Yeah. So I started like that, you know, 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:26.280 doing behind the scenes. But that's not easy because perfect example, 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.480 you were exhausted, do not get you wanted to go home? 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.320 I get it, um, you know, and artists just gave 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:37.400 us they're all on stage and then it's nothing easy. Um. 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:44.200 And then you know like, um, so we won't be 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:50.480 there on Twitter virang and I expanded my base from 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:57.119 there and Poco Contrado um, and I was tapped on 0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.960 the shoulder. Um. It was like a two way street. 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.440 My point. Um, Yes, I was doing this work, but 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:05.359 also I feel like the industry was ready to have 0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:09.399 these conversations in writing, but I didn't know whose shoulder 0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:13.240 to tap, And it's it's a gamble, right, talking about 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:17.160 these topics. It's difficult because the publicists are right there. 0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:22.159 I get that feather. So I was tapped on the 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:25.399 shoulder to write an op ed for Club because that 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:29.840 the summer when George Floyd died and everybody was really 0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:33.080 showing their colors and it was really bad. Um, nobody 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:36.080 didn't really know how to talk about nobody like no 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.560 white Latino artists know how to knew how to talk 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:42.560 about race, and um, it was evident the industry looked 0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:47.760 really bad. Well as bad as things are right because okay, okay, 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:52.800 you're sl me right, um either um henty like done 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:58.160 ones like you're not. That's not my point. My point 0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:00.480 is not to put anybody down. My point is to 0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:02.600 make people feel bad, Like what's the point of that? 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:05.720 Like either point? What did I saw? Right? My point is, 0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.200 let's recognize the issues that that exists, right as a 0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:12.680 continuation of many conversations that you've had a Mata and 0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:15.080 people who have come before me, and let's get to 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.240 the point. Let's go to a solution like Bama Black Clad, 0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:20.920 They're OK, and like, let's talk about these things exactly 0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:23.280 how they are. So I've had the honor of talking 0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:27.520 on race and music and Rolling Stone and l a times, 0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:31.359 um talking about I get the own versus classical music, 0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:36.159 which was an honor. Um. You know, my platform is 0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:39.840 a bridge between academia and entertainment because I said, you know, 0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:42.199 people really should have the tools to learn about their 0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.560 own history. I was tired as a panamania like talking 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.160 about the vices of people looking at me like you're 0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.359 so cute. We don't know what you're talking about, Like 0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:55.520 what in Like that's crazy. Um. So at the it's 0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:58.720 been a very difficult journey. Um, I made sure to 0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:02.240 to give people our flowers and really have people understand that. 0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:16.720 But I'm not because oh so, I'm not trying to 0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:19.520 throw the industry array so that nobody's getting money. Let's 0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:23.080 get money and let's do things right. Hip. Probably it's 0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:25.680 based off off of the Civil Rights movement. There's a 0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:30.000 legacy of centering blackness that should be evident in Latin 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:35.119 music and it's not. That is the point. Um. I 0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:37.920 always feel like Latino and that aspect we're always a 0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:42.440 little bit more like behind in comparison to like, you know, 0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:44.960 even when you look at the African American community, and 0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:47.399 then I think that that's why I also when I 0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:51.560 was vocal about colorism and racism in my community as 0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:53.760 an Alfri Latina, everybody was like, oh my god, what 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:58.600 you know? But that's because the Latino we're not necessarily 0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:03.040 as outspoken. We haven't really been as you know, vocal 0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:07.840 about our issues. We kind of conformal with knowing what 0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:12.480 our place is and being like this is how they 0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:14.520 treat us. We get it and we just do with it, 0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:16.920 and this is how we go about it. And that's 0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:20.000 not the way obviously to progress, whether it is in music, 0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:23.800 whether it's in politics, whether it is in whatever industry. Um, 0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:26.520 you have to be vocal about equality when it comes 0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:30.400 to that, right. But UM, on a more positive light, 0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:34.080 what the art is? Are there any artists out there 0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:38.880 right now that you're like, be out in the lookout? 0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:45.080 I um, most of us who are a trio of 0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:50.520 Colombian our Afro Colombian Argentine sisters who are put in 0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:52.960 the music out there. They just released a song called 0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.760 Destino and now they're working on an afrobeats and we're 0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:59.480 excited to see what comes from them. Melaner, we just 0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.399 gotta say each old. Really, Melana, who's been you know 0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:07.160 here for a little bit lay party with Nicana. She's 0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:11.680 so pretty. Finale who makes like very upbeat music at 0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:15.000 the den morn I have a threat on Twitter. I 0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:19.480 have many threads on Twitter, but free to slide up 0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:21.359 in my d m s because I always want to 0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:29.480 be able to support a k you know that they 0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:31.280 have a way that they're doing good. If there's any 0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:32.960 way that I can at least post your music and 0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:35.440 support some way somehow, I would love to be able 0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:37.600